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We are back with the second episode of Shifting Perspectives! This week we are exploring the topic of divorce.

Tamar is joined for this conversation by Olivia Howell. Olivia is the CEO and co-founder of Fresh Starts Registry -- recognized by Forbes as "the first divorce registry of its kind," and by New. York Magazine for "destigmatizing divorce." A clinical hypnotherapist, certified divorce and life coach, and award-winning podcast producer of multimple podcasts Including the top-rated "Divorce Happens," Olivia built Fresh Starts with her sister Genevieve Dreizen after her own 2019 divorce where she realized there was no realsystem to help people rebuild.

Olivia's professional and personal experience make her the perfect guest for this conversation, looking at what we get wrong about divorce and where we need to shift our collective perspectives. Directly informed by episode 1 and our convesation around marriage, this episode discusses the importance of approaching divorce as a natural part of the human experience, and recognizing that in many instances, it can be the best possible outcome.

Interested in Fresh Starts Registry? Find Olivia on Instagram and Threads.