Episode 233 | Tunneling Through Hell's Kitchen

Summary

Podcast Summary: Episode 233 | Tunneling Through Hell's Kitchen

New Rory & MAL dives deep into a myriad of topics in Episode 233, titled "Tunneling Through Hell's Kitchen," released on January 12, 2024. Hosted by Rory and Mal, alongside their co-hosts, the episode navigates through personal anecdotes, current events, pop culture, and relationship advice, providing listeners with a vibrant mix of humor and insightful discussions.

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1. Baby Amara’s Swimming Lessons and Instructor Attire

The episode kicks off with Rory and Mal sharing a humorous yet critical discussion about their baby, Amara's first swimming lesson. They express discomfort over the swimming instructor's attire, specifically the use of Speedos and the requirement to wear shirts.

• Mal: "Amara was the only baby that didn't cry at all. Those others just wouldn't. The tears whole time, Amara is sitting there chilling, going underwater." (00:10)
• Rory: "You cannot do that. How long can you swim like that? Because that takes a lot out of you." (01:58)

The conversation highlights concerns about modesty and professionalism in children's swim classes, sparking a broader dialogue about appropriate attire in public and educational settings.

2. Underground Tunnels in Crown Heights, Brooklyn

Transitioning to a more serious topic, Rory and Mal delve into recent reports of underground tunnels discovered in Crown Heights, Brooklyn. These tunnels allegedly connect synagogues and a children's museum, raising suspicions and questions about their purpose.

• Rory: "They found some mattresses that had feces stains, blood stains. They found strollers, high chairs in these tunnels." (14:15)
• Mal: "If this were two mosques that they found underground tunnels connecting them, this would be major news." (17:05)

The hosts critique the media's lack of coverage on this discovery, comparing it to the extensive reporting on Gaza's tunnel networks. They also address the sensitive nature of linking such findings to specific communities, navigating the fine line between investigative curiosity and potential bias.

3. Young Thug’s RICO Case and Courtroom Antics

The discussion shifts to the legal troubles of rapper Young Thug, focusing on his RICO case. Rory and Mal analyze the courtroom proceedings, particularly the playing of Young Thug's song "Lifestyle" during the trial.

• Mal: "They played 'Lifestyle' today in the courtroom because I guess they were trying to pinpoint YSL being a gang." (23:00)
• Rory: "This shit cannot be a real trial. This can't be real." (25:03)

They express skepticism about the trial's legitimacy, suggesting that the spectacle surrounding it undermines the judicial process. The hosts predict a minimal impact on Young Thug's career, anticipating that he might bounce back with new music post-trial.

4. Aaron Rodgers vs. Jimmy Kimmel: Epstein Controversy

A heated segment covers the feud between NFL star Aaron Rodgers and comedian Jimmy Kimmel, centered around allegations linking Kimmel to Jeffrey Epstein.

• Rory: "Jimmy Kimmel responded and he said he was gonna sue Aaron Rodgers for defamation of character." (31:36)
• Mal: "If Jimmy Kimmel is actually on the list doing some nasty shit, cool. But it hasn't been put out." (35:11)

The hosts dissect the implications of Rodgers' statements, debating the validity and potential repercussions of the claims. They discuss the role of media personalities in shaping public perception and the thin line between satire and defamation.

5. Media Personalities on X: Don Lemon and Don’t Miss

Rory and Mal explore the dynamics of media figures migrating to the X (formerly Twitter) platform, focusing on Don Lemon's recent transition and its impact on free speech and broadcast standards.

• Mal: "Don Lemon is now part of X, in what was officially announced." (40:23)
• Rory: "X or Elon Musk is allowing these personalities to have their platform and freedom of speech." (42:50)

They commend Elon Musk for providing a space where diverse voices, regardless of political alignment, can coexist. The discussion touches on the challenges and benefits of such open platforms, emphasizing the importance of balanced representation in media.

6. Book of Clarence: James Samuel’s Cinematic Vision

A celebratory note is struck as the hosts discuss the upcoming release of Book of Clarence, a film directed by James Samuel. They praise Samuel's multifaceted talent in both directing and producing the film’s soundtrack.

• Rory: "Book of Clarence is out January 12th. Shout out to James Samuel." (61:05)
• Mal: "James is doing a great job portraying black excellence and black culture." (62:52)

The hosts laud the film for its authentic representation and creative excellence, urging listeners to support Samuel's work as a significant contribution to contemporary cinema and culture.

7. Relationship Advice: Navigating Long-Distance and Trust Issues

In a lighthearted yet earnest segment, Rory and Mal address voicemails from listeners seeking advice on long-distance relationships and trust issues with partners.

• Listener E: "I've been talking to somebody for about five months now. We game together. She’s hesitant about meeting in person." (67:46)
• Rory: "If you want to move closer to her, go for it, but definitely have your own situation, though." (71:25)

The hosts offer practical solutions, emphasizing the importance of communication, setting personal boundaries, and maintaining individual independence within a relationship. They encourage listeners to assess the authenticity of their connections and make informed decisions about taking their relationships to the next level.

8. Exploring Sexuality and Social Interactions

The episode touches on sensitive topics related to sexuality, stereotypes, and social interactions, particularly in the context of friendships and workplace dynamics.

• Mal: "I have more in common with masculine lesbian women." (97:29)
• Rory: "I'm just telling you that I have a lot in common with masculine lesbian women." (98:07)

The conversation navigates the nuances of identifying common ground with diverse individuals, challenging preconceived notions and promoting inclusivity. The hosts engage in playful banter while addressing serious undertones of acceptance and understanding in social relationships.

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Concluding Thoughts

Episode 233 of New Rory & MAL offers a rich tapestry of discussions, blending personal stories with broader societal issues. Rory and Mal, alongside their co-hosts, provide a candid and entertaining exploration of topics ranging from parenting challenges and legal dramas to media controversies and relationship dilemmas. Their ability to intertwine humor with critical analysis makes for an engaging listening experience, inviting audiences to reflect on the complexities of modern life.

Notable Quotes:

• "If this were two mosques that they found underground tunnels connecting them, this would be major news." – Mal (17:05)
• "This shit cannot be a real trial. This can't be real." – Rory (25:03)
• "X or Elon Musk is allowing these personalities to have their platform and freedom of speech." – Rory (42:50)
• "Book of Clarence is out January 12th. Shout out to James Samuel." – Rory (61:05)
• "I'm just telling you that I have a lot in common with masculine lesbian women." – Mal (98:07)

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Timestamp Reference:

• 00:10 - Introduction to Amara’s swimming lesson
• 01:58 - Discussion on instructor’s attire
• 14:15 - Discovery of tunnels in Crown Heights
• 17:05 - Media coverage critique
• 23:00 - Young Thug’s RICO case overview
• 25:03 - Skepticism about the trial
• 31:36 - Aaron Rodgers vs. Jimmy Kimmel controversy
• 35:11 - Mal on Epstein implications
• 40:23 - Don Lemon joins X
• 42:50 - Rory on free speech on X
• 61:05 - Book of Clarence release
• 62:52 - James Samuel’s contribution
• 67:46 - Listener’s relationship advice
• 71:25 - Rory’s advice on moving closer
• 97:29 - Mal on commonalities with masculine lesbian women
• 98:07 - Continuation of the same topic

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the essence of Episode 233, ensuring that listeners or potential new audience members grasp the key discussions and takeaways from New Rory & MAL without having to tune in.

Transcript

[A]

I have more in common. Masculine lesbian women.

[B]

So you identify as a masculine lesbian.

[A]

No, I see now you just being stupid. No, I do not identify as a masculine lesbian.

[C]

Maybe it's not masculine lesbian. Maybe I just get along with people that still wear fitted hats.

[A]

I tend to just, you know, that's. That's crazy. No worry. Did a lot of shit.

[C]

Just live this here lifestyle.

[A]

Hi, man. So, listen, it's been a couple of days since we've seen each other.

[C]

Mm.

[A]

We're back to pod. It's been a lot of. A lot of things happening. Rory, I told you 2024. We knew from day one, January 1st. We knew that 2024 was going to be a very, very interesting year. We call it 2020 more. I don't know how much more we can take.

[C]

We're on. We're on day 11.

[A]

Yeah. Like this. There's some things happening. I don't know where y'all want to start, but first of all, how's everybody feeling? How's everybody doing?

[C]

I feel great. I mean. Yeah. Before we get into.

[B]

Before we go. Go below sea level before we dig.

[C]

Into some of this news.

[B]

Yeah. Before we get deep into these topics.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Amara had her first swimming lesson.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

She was the only baby that didn't cry at all. Those other.

[A]

So she likes the water.

[C]

Those other just would not. The tears. The whole time, Amar is sitting there chilling.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Going underwater. And so it was fun. I had an anxiety attack the entire time.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Because it's like we're putting a.

[A]

You know how to swim?

[C]

Yeah, I can. I can not drown.

[D]

So you don't know how to swim?

[C]

No, I can swim.

[D]

Like, you'd be kicking your legs.

[B]

No, I can.

[C]

I can do the. The thing.

[D]

Do it.

[B]

That was your stroke.

[A]

That was crazy. To ask a man to show them.

[B]

That's.

[C]

I can do the one in the Olympics. Like when they go over the butterfly like this. I could do that one.

[A]

You cannot do that.

[D]

No, he can't. I know he can't.

[A]

He cannot do it.

[D]

I know you can't do it.

[C]

Bring a camera to the pool.

[A]

There's no way you can do that.

[B]

Is that the butterfly? Okay.

[A]

How long can you swim like that? Because that takes a lot out of you.

[C]

I mean, I don't know right now because I'm not in the best shape. I'm getting back into shape.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I could probably do that for, like, 50 meters.

[A]

I don't know what meters is.

[C]

Wait, what's the whole pool?

[B]

100 meter pool.

[C]

I'm Pretty all the way down?

[B]

I think so.

[C]

Okay, then give me like, 30 to 40 meters.

[B]

That's a long way to go.

[A]

Yo, bro, that's crazy. That takes. That's like a full body.

[C]

Like, I could take breaks, right?

[A]

I mean, yeah, do whatever you gotta do, but I'm just saying, I know you can't swim long doing a breaststroke. That's like.

[B]

One way is 50 meters, so a down and back 100 meters.

[C]

Then give me 25. I can do half of whatever the.

[A]

Pool is doing a breaststroke.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't think. No, the butterfly. You're saying 25 meters the butterfly?

[C]

No. Isn't the breaststroke when you're like. And, like, you do that?

[A]

Yeah, I think so. I don't know.

[D]

I'm pretty sure it's not. Yeah, I think.

[A]

But either way, everything swimming is like, I wish I could swim every day, but my skin just would not accept that Dries out. Yeah. I can't be in chlorine. Like, I just can't, like, every day. Like. But I would love to. Like, I hate working now. I've been back in the gym. I hate weights. I want to swim every day. Just let me go in a pool and swim every day. I would love to do that, but I would come in here looking like.

[C]

Well, a lot of pools now are salt water. I think the one that I took Amara to for her swim lesson is like, the last chlorine pool pool in Manhattan.

[A]

Really? Yeah.

[C]

I think saltwater pools are taking over. I mean, it is kind of crazy that chlorine has, like, lasted this long. I feel like we'd just be laying in chlorine.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's like. It's like leading pencils.

[A]

Yeah. It's crazy. It's crazy to be just sitting in chlorine. But congrats to baby Amara on her first swimming lesson.

[C]

And I went in, like, this was the first time in my life I went into a pool with a shirt on. I didn't know what was, like, appropriate.

[A]

To get in the pool.

[C]

I've never been put in this situation where I was going to a pool with a bunch of children and parents, like, how old? Like, I didn't know them. It wasn't in someone's backyard.

[A]

You used to them, like, the mmg pool parties. Made back music. Pool parties. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. Where people are of age.

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[C]

And bathing suits are optional.

[A]

No, but it wasn't the instructors. What did they have on?

[C]

See, I don't even want to say this because this could just go down like a deeper he had on a Speedo and I felt really fucking uncomfortable.

[A]

Like a Speedo. Like the, the.

[C]

The underwear and it was orange.

[B]

Well, see, they could see it.

[C]

Like it was zesty.

[A]

And that was it.

[C]

Like he made a Speedo look zestier than a Speedo.

[B]

He's also in a pool instructing kid. Like, come on.

[A]

Wait, A Speedo. Like the under.

[C]

And I don't want to put. Yes, like the, you know, the bathing suit. A Speedo. Google what a Speedo is. Like what Europeans wear.

[A]

No, Speedo was a brand. I think.

[C]

I think it's a brand.

[A]

Speedo is the brand.

[C]

It's a type of bathing suit that men wear. Because you've never been like America and just seen a bunch of like men, international men wear these, these things.

[B]

This cut.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

I went to the beach like that.

[C]

Well, you wanna, you wanna tan? Your thoughts?

[D]

You got it.

[A]

Nah, nah, nah. You got it. Like you ain't. You're not. You're not going to the beach with that. Come on, man.

[C]

But I didn't know what was like.

[A]

What are we talking about?

[C]

Like, should I be shirtless?

[A]

So, so your, your, your lifeguard. Well, your swimming instructor for your daughter and the rest of the kids was wearing something like this?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And you paid like I did.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, you're part of the problem. Rory.

[B]

How old were the other kids? Because obviously I would imagine Amar is on the younger side of this. How. How old are the oldest kids?

[C]

They were all between one and maybe like one and a half.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[C]

Yeah. No, it's the baby swim.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And then I think there's like the toddler one after whatever. But yeah, this is the year old kids.

[A]

And I just think being around instructor doesn't like, like fam. You don't got to wear that to the pool.

[C]

I see. I agree. And I don't want to, you know, and we'll get to the Aaron Rodgers thing. I don't want to Aaron Rodgers anyone and imply that they're creepy or doing anything weird because he's been teaching there forever. He taught Kia how to swim. So I just found it odd that he was in a Speedo.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

And maybe I'm the immature one, but, you know, it raised my eyebrows of like, wait, you're teaching babies in a Speedo? I came in a shirt.

[A]

Yeah, no, that's, that's, that's.

[C]

You.

[D]

Were you the only one with the shirt on?

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Did you.

[B]

And you never were like, okay, maybe I can.

[A]

No, but what about regular swimming trunks?

[D]

Yeah, you Know, I had.

[C]

I had on regular swimming trunks and then I had.

[A]

No, I'm talking about the instructor. Like, where's his regular just swimming trunks at? Why you got the Speedos?

[D]

I'm sure being that he's.

[A]

This isn't he beast.

[D]

Is he American? Where do you think he's at, Rory?

[B]

He's zesty.

[C]

No, he wasn't.

[D]

He was not American.

[C]

And definitely West. West Indian. I'm not going to say sexual orientation because I'm not sure of it, but for someone that's lived 33 years, I kind of have a gauge of when someone is gay.

[B]

Emphasis on the gauge.

[C]

Yeah, so, I mean, he came across that way and I just feel like the orange Speedo kind of gave it away too. But I didn't look that crazy. I'm just. I had a.

[A]

You had the cut off sleeves.

[C]

Yeah, I just felt. First lesson.

[A]

You look like you went straight from 7:11 to the pool.

[C]

It wasn't really me that had to be too concerned. Kia is used to going on vacation. It was her bathing suits that we were really fucking worried about.

[D]

A non thong bathing suit.

[C]

Yeah, that. That was tough.

[B]

You should have put her in some ball shorts.

[C]

We all. We all went to Target to just like try to find appropriate clothes.

[D]

I did that too. The first time I took like my. My bonus kid to a. A swimming park.

[C]

Did you say your bonus kid?

[D]

Bonus kid.

[C]

What is a bonus kid?

[D]

At the time, the person I was dating had a child.

[B]

Bonus kid, Bonus kid.

[C]

Wait, I've never heard.

[A]

Is that what it's called?

[B]

Is the bonus you his bonus or is he your bonus?

[D]

The kid is the bonus. Bonus kid. Instead of saying stepchild, people call it bonus child. Before.

[C]

No, never in my life.

[A]

No, because when did they change that?

[D]

Because step, I guess, you know, p. Stepchild is not PC like it doesn't sound.

[A]

Oh, they landed on bonus.

[D]

Yeah, like that's my boat. Like you're a bonus. Like you're an addition. Plus one.

[A]

That's like your plus one.

[C]

Okay, now I get it. You're a bonus to my life. I thought you meant like a bonus. Like if I have a salary and then I get a bonus, I just get some extra. Yeah, you need a kid to have a bonus kid.

[A]

Well, her boyfriend had the kid and since that's her boyfriend, that would be.

[D]

She's the bonus.

[B]

Is step insulting? Yeah.

[C]

I never knew that.

[D]

A lot of people don't. A lot of people don't use step. And also step implies marriage. I wasn't married.

[B]

See, that's where I got the difference.

[C]

Technically, you have to be married to the person.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

So bonuses is what they landed on as being PC as being not as harsh of a term. Okay, listen, listen. The more you learn. I'm here to learn. In 24.

[D]

How are you.

[A]

More knowledge. 20, 20. More learning.

[C]

If you get caught cheating. Like, that's not my side chick. It's just. It's my bonus child.

[B]

My bonus girl.

[A]

Yeah, it's my bonus girl. Bonus bag.

[B]

Do you claim your bonus on tax?

[A]

You can.

[B]

I feel like you should.

[A]

Yeah, I should. Did you claim that bonus child on your taxes? Yeah.

[D]

I need help.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Wait, how did you introduce yourself at swimming? I'm bonus mom. And how does real mom feel about bonus mom?

[D]

We were going to a park, like, a water park.

[A]

Okay. And I re.

[D]

I was just. The only reason I mentioned this is because I wanted to agree with you that it was. I had to be like, oh, I had to get a full bathing suit that covers my entire ass.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

When going swimming covers your children.

[A]

Knots.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So when you introduced. When other people asked, oh, Damaris, is this your. Is this your kid? You would tell other adults, no, this is my bonus child.

[D]

If they were to ask me that. But I don't. Anybody that. I'm gonna be around with her. Strangers aren't gonna ask you, hey, is that your kid? Like, they're not every once in a while.

[A]

Well, only if you. I mean, if you had Amara with you, somebody would ask you, is that your kid? Yeah.

[B]

No, they would say, are you available? We need a nanny. That's what they would say.

[A]

Bonus suit. Yeah. Bonus nanny.

[B]

Bonus nanny.

[A]

Okay, so you had to find a bathing suit, because women don't typically have bathing suits that are family friendly.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And then even if you have a. What I. The point was, when you're thick. Thicker. On the thicker side, no matter what.

[A]

You put looks that thing just moving, swinging.

[C]

Well, we're supposed to be better in 2024.

[A]

All right.

[D]

The Jews are in tunnels.

[C]

Well, I want to say I was happy with my choice because. And I kept my shirt on because I'm not a hippie like some of y'all. I don't think people should wear shorts on airplanes. Just sometimes I don't need to see the other people.

[A]

I think having your shirt on in the pool is hippie, though. No, Like, I think that's more hipp.

[C]

If I was a hippie, I'd be ass naked. Like, hey, we're just playing with the kids.

[A]

Yeah, that's. That's That's a whole different hippie level.

[C]

But, like, I think that was happening in those tunnels.

[A]

Yeah, I think. I think shirt in the pool is some hippie shit, though.

[C]

But then there was, like, a dad that, you know, I don't want to get in, like, too much detail. Just like a hairy, nasty. I don't want to see that when I'm trying to do swim lessons with my kid.

[A]

Yeah, maybe I'm.

[C]

Maybe I am conservative. I think in certain situations, people should just cover up. Everyone not saying just overweight people, just hair. Everyone just wear a shirt and let's teach these kids to swim.

[A]

I don't.

[C]

If you want to go to fucking Aruba, I go ahead. I'm not going to say a word to you if you want to be ass naked. But we're in a. A building pool with children. What do you put a real bathing suit on? Put a shirt on.

[D]

Why did they have to put. I think that's. I get the women having a real baby.

[A]

The shirt is weird.

[B]

Shirt and water is not. Is hilarious.

[A]

Anytime I see somebody, like, in the water with a shirt on, I'm like, bro, you look crazy. Take the shirt off.

[D]

You over.

[A]

Having a shirt is not supposed to get drenched wet, like in water like that, and you have it on, and then when you get out, it's like stuck to you, like another layer of skin. It's like, yeah, you look crazy.

[B]

I like the opacity up on your nipple.

[A]

Yeah, it's just you just topless.

[C]

Okay, well, then I feel like the Speedos is crazy. Then it's a double standard, too, because I feel like women should cover up in situations like that as well. Also going to say men should, too. No, I don't want to see your nipples.

[B]

We're on you. We're on you. We're on the same page as far as, like, don't go with the pool in a thong bathing suit. Yeah, but there are normal bottoms.

[A]

Oh, yeah. The normal. Oh, bathing suits that women can wear that are family friendly.

[C]

I want all people to keep their nipples and hairy nipples away from my kid. That's all I'm saying.

[B]

So it's a hair.

[A]

I agree, I agree.

[C]

It's just nipples, period. I feel like if they should just not be around children.

[A]

I feel you.

[C]

But, Rory, unless you're breastfeeding them, they.

[D]

Could see your pink nipples through that shirt. I guarantee you.

[A]

He had a black shirt.

[D]

Oh, it was black. Okay. All right.

[C]

And I have shirts that are for the water because, like, when I do go on vacation, Sometimes. And, like, the sun. I don't do it for like, you know, when the fat kid used to jump in the pool with the shirts because he's fat. I can't take the sun. Sometimes, like fat people. A long sleeve waterproof shirt.

[D]

You look the sun fatter with the shirt on. But Rory. Okay, so you had a sunburn proof shirt on in an indoor pool.

[C]

No, this was. This was just a workout shirt.

[D]

Oh, okay.

[C]

But I do have, like, shirts that are made for the water.

[A]

Yeah, because of my, like, the surfing.

[B]

You go. You go to the. Yeah, sort of ocean in a wetsuit.

[C]

I've done it before.

[A]

Did you go surfing?

[C]

No, I went, like, snorkeling.

[A]

Okay, you've never went. I thought you was chilling on the beach in a wetsuit with a wet.

[C]

But no surfboard.

[B]

This girl just topless with her ass out. Rory's in a full wetsuit.

[C]

A nude beach.

[A]

I thought you had a wetsuit on and was just laying on the sand listening to your album.

[B]

Like, barefoot.

[A]

No, it's not barefoot. Yeah, like, you hot as they go. Get that suit wet, fam.

[C]

You got to put.

[A]

Yeah, like, what's wrong with you? But. But gingers, y'all. Y'all can't, like, y'all get sunburned very easily. Yeah. So if we.

[C]

If we do like a. A pod trip to Miami to record or whatever, would you do surfing lessons with me? That's on my bucket list.

[A]

Surfing lessons in Miami.

[D]

I want to stand up on $700 hour.

[B]

You could surf at Rockaway.

[A]

Yeah, no, I'm cool. It's Rockaway.

[B]

They have good waves.

[A]

I'm talking about the water. I'm not talking about the waves. The water. Oh, it's not swimming in Rockaway Beach. I'm sorry.

[C]

Yeah, I'm not swimming in water laced with fentanyl.

[A]

Yeah, I'm cool.

[B]

Oh, you think Miami's water's clean? All the lost coke in that?

[C]

I'd prefer coke over fentanyl.

[A]

It's closer to the Caribbean than New York, but, you know.

[C]

Yeah, it's further from Redfern Projects.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Anyways, with that said. The tunnels.

[A]

The tunnels. All right, so listen, man, a lot of people online, you know, they like to talk shit about New York City and our subways and our rats. Pizza. Remember? Pizza Rat was a thing a couple years ago, you know, and people just talk about just New York City being just a fucking. It's like a simulation city. Nothing in New York seems real. And to add to that, the other day we got reports of the NYPD finding these underground tunnels in Brooklyn. Yes.

[C]

Crown Heights.

[A]

Crown Heights, Brooklyn. If you're from New York, you know what? Crown Heights, Brooklyn.

[B]

The neighborhood is very residential neighborhood.

[A]

Very residential neighborhood. Neighborhood. Nice neighborhood.

[C]

Specific type of residential.

[A]

Specific type of a large Jewish community. Yes, in Crown Heights. Orthodox Jew in Crown Heights. And so the reports came out that they found some underground tunnels, and then.

[C]

I believe another synagogue as well was connected. You may have not heard about this, because for some reason, this didn't make as much news as I thought it was gonna make.

[A]

Yeah, some odd reason.

[C]

I can't figure out what that reason would be, though. Like, why is this not national news?

[A]

This should be national news. They found some mattresses that had feces stains, blood stains. They found strollers, high chairs in these tunnels. Yeah, man. So listen, there's some very odd, very strange things happening, obviously, in these tunnels connecting a synagogue to a children's museum into another synagogue. I. I don't know, man. This is. This is very odd, though. I didn't know that Jewish people were so into the Ninja Turtles, though, because now we're starting to all connect and make sense, like, the whole story. The Ninja Turtle is one of my favorite cartoons growing up.

[C]

Kids love that cartoon too.

[A]

Kids love the Ninja Turtles.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Gotta love the Ninja.

[B]

You think he dropped a quarter down there? That's why I had to go down there and get it to.

[C]

We're going to skip over that to my. To my Jewish friends and associates that are suggesting that we should also care about the tunnels that Hamas is building. That's a war zone.

[A]

Right?

[C]

We really want to know what the fuck y'all are doing in underground tunnels right here in New York City in Crown Heights.

[A]

Did Michael Rappaport. Did he report on this yet?

[C]

Yes. He said people are more outraged with tunnels connecting two synagogues than Hamas's tunnels used Anti Semites. That was my rapper.

[B]

Well, what if they dug these tunnels?

[A]

But he said that for real, to find Hamas.

[C]

I mean, I'm paraphrasing, but yeah. His tweet was, why do you guys care more about tunnels connecting to synagogues than what Hamas is doing? Two totally separate points.

[A]

Yeah, Okay.

[C]

A lot of times. And I'm not in no way putting this on the entire Jewish community or any community in particular. People tell on themselves. Like, without knowing it.

[A]

You let people talk long enough, they'll tell on themselves.

[C]

Michael Rapport is one of those people who we were supporters of for quite some time, but he's taken a wild left. He tells on himself. So Much. And I don't think he realizes how bad he's telling on himself and how much worse he's making his community look when he says shit like that. People being concerned that mattresses with blood stains and shit stains and strollers and high chairs that are found under a fucking underground tunnel above a synagogue with a community. And I'm not putting this on. Everyone's jacket has a long history of child abuse. This is not something new in Brooklyn with the Orthodox Jewish community. No way am I saying all of them are pedophiles or are rapists or anything like that. But there is a long history of that community being arrested for that particular crime.

[A]

Right.

[C]

So I think it's fair to question why there are strollers in your underground tunnels. So that's all I'm saying. I know I'm. I know I'm anti Semitic. I know it's going to be put on me. I apologize. Nerve of me for caring about children. See, that's why you don't wear speedos around kids.

[A]

I just would like to know why this isn't on the front page of every newspaper every time you open your social media. Like, this is something that. If this was another group of people, we don't have to say what group of people that is.

[B]

Ooh, I have another.

[C]

If the Muslim community even dug a foot into the fucking ground, yeah, this would be national news. This would probably be part of the presidential debates.

[B]

Oh, God.

[A]

It's hard for me to believe that if this were two mosques that did this, it's hard for me to think that this wouldn't be plastered on the front of literally every time you open your phone. This would be the story that you saw. We would get an update hourly on this.

[C]

But either way, with that said, like, I understand the Jewish community and feeling like they are always talked about and, you know, it's anti Semitic to question things, but that's another way of y'all telling on yourself. If we're just questioning, hey, why is no one else talking about this? Why is this not on any media outlets? We are not insinuating that you guys all control the media or any of the anti Semitic rhetoric that you guys get mad at. We are simply just asking, why is this not fucking news?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And if you take that personally, maybe you're telling on yourself.

[A]

Again, this absolutely should be headlined everywhere. Everybody should know about this. Because again, like I said, if this were two mosques that they found underground tunnels connecting them, this would be major, major news. And we would get an update hourly. On this. So we'll have to guess. I guess maybe we'll get more info on this, maybe we won't. Maybe this is something that'll just disappear in the next couple days and we'll never hear about it again.

[C]

I don't think we'll hear much because they're 10 toes.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

If this is one community that doesn't have to worry about rats, not one person that they arrested, I guarantee will say a single word.

[B]

No, you may have they.

[C]

I don't think they have any worries about anyone revealing what was actually happening in those tunnels. And because everyone's going to keep their mouth shut, they'll never figure anything out. Those gentlemen may do some jail time, but it probably won't be for what we think may be happening in those tunnels because no one's going to say anything. Yeah, that's the real 10 to community. They are not. No. Not one person is going to be an informant.

[D]

Well, what they're saying, the people who run the synagogue, what they're saying is that they are. There's a group of extremists who were young men, they're saying misguided young men calling them extremists who are attempting to preserve their unauthorized access to the synagogue. Which is why they dug the tunnel.

[A]

Yeah, but then why are there strollers, high chairs, you know, no clue. Match bloody mattresses. Mattresses with fecal matter on it.

[B]

Also, if it was a child ring, why were they pulling the older, like the OGs, the grown ass men out of the tunnels? And why were they rioting in the synagogue about sealing off and shutting off access to the tunnels? If it's literally a rogue group of teens, that should have been news to them. Like, what is going on? They were adamant about keeping those things up and running.

[C]

I didn't see one team get pulled.

[B]

I didn't see a kid at all.

[D]

Well, they say young man. I didn't say teen.

[B]

Yeah, they said the kids that were arrested were 19 to 22. But none of the people that were coming out of that little hole there or even the guy in the sewer video looked 19 or 22.

[A]

Yeah, it's a different group. Again, I think that we won't get much more information on this. This is something that'll just go away in a couple of days and we just won't hear anything else about it. So it is what it is. Internet had fun the last two, three days with it. But I don't think this is something that we'll get much update from. This would be Something in February we won't talk about again, won't ask about, won't see anything on social media about it. Just one of those things that has happened. It's like a. Like literally like a flash. Like, we've seen it, it happened, it's over, totally gone. And we don't get a update about it. They'll say that those tunnels were sealed and, you know, nothing ever happened. Nothing ever happened. Tunnels were sealed and that's it.

[C]

Just some kids horsing around.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Boys will be boys.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's crazy.

[C]

Their version of a tree fort.

[B]

It's just the. The irony of the Hamas tunnel scare. And in our very home, our backyard, this is literally happening.

[A]

What's happening?

[B]

Meanwhile, in Gaza, we act like I know white people are kind of getting over that story and looking for the next story to cling to. There's over 30,000 is the death toll currently in Gaza. So hope you find those tunnels. Keep doing your thing.

[C]

Another Michael Rappaport response to it was, do you think Hamas invented tunnels? No, they stole that from us. You didn't think we have tunnels? We have tunnels too. In regards to.

[B]

It's a really good point.

[C]

I'm not make. Bro. I follow. Follow Michael Rappaport. I'm not making any.

[B]

Drake did make Underground Kings, which I look at it differently now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Jay said we getting money up under you. We know where his allegiance is.

[C]

And if you've been to Marcy Avenue, big Orthodox Jew. Just. I'm just saying.

[A]

Live from the gutter, 2024, man. Speaking of standing on 10 toes. The YSL RICO case started today. Well, continued today. And they. They played a lifestyle young thug. They played the video today in the courtroom because I guess they were trying to, you know, pinpoint YSL being a gang and being blood affiliated and all of these things. I just thought it was interesting that a courtroom was playing lifestyle. A song that we all love and a song that we all dance, and nobody was bopping their heads. Everyone was just like sitting there, just looking at the prompter, the TV or whatever. They were looking at the monitor. And I don't think we've ever seen a case like this where it's just circus after circus. It's like one act after another of shit. Like, this cannot be a real trial. This can't be real.

[C]

The urge not to at least bop your head a little bit would be insane.

[B]

You think he's tapping?

[C]

He should have just called for. This is recess in court.

[A]

Yeah, just play that.

[C]

And jury pay attention now.

[A]

Demara Said that she doesn't think this is real. She thinks somebody added the audio to it. I want to say if it's not really, they did add the audio. That was genius. That was some dope to do. But I do think this is real. I think they were really looking at the Lifestyle video.

[C]

Can Universal flag this for copyright? Just asking. Or 300.

[A]

Rather not in the courtroom. No.

[B]

I feel partially responsible for this getting brought up.

[C]

Of course.

[A]

Yeah, of course you do.

[C]

Not the rico, not the. Or him yelling.

[A]

Just them playing Lifestyle.

[C]

Yeah, well, the song or the prosecutor saying that, hey, we're going to use his lyrics throughout this entire trial.

[A]

Yeah. Idea.

[C]

It was. You talking about the.

[B]

No, I think they said in reference to the new Roaring Mall podcast.

[C]

So you're. So you're a rat.

[B]

They played.

[C]

They used you in court.

[B]

Yeah, they mentioned your name.

[C]

No, stand by it now.

[B]

You said no, they mentioned they used you to prosecute. Don't LeBron James me. I'm not. I'm not doing any of that.

[C]

I know Rich Homie Kwan was somewhere like, yo, leave me the out of this.

[A]

Yeah. Like, don't play my verse. Whatever y'all do. I don't know, man. I think the more and more this shit goes on, I think Thug is coming home soon, man.

[C]

This has turned into an absolute circus. I'm with you.

[A]

Yeah. I think it's going to be time served. I think Thug is coming home like this. Can't. I can't see him being convicted of anything. His homeboy took the stand and they asking him questions. Everybody thought he was going to rat. He up there sending them on a wild goose chase. Every time he answers. He threw Juice WRLD name in it. He was like, yeah, what does that stand for?

[C]

He was like, what does five stand for?

[A]

He was like, yeah, you know, Juice WRLD passed through. He's a rapper that passed away. Like, that's what the five stand. He just up there sending them on a wild goose chase. I mean, I just can't see Thug getting time behind this shit.

[C]

And also they were posting today that I wasn't. I think it was the defense, not the prosecution, that was bringing up that LeBron James was also doing the gang signs and Serena Williams was doing the Crip walk at one of the Wimbledons. And she's not a Crip, and LeBron is obviously not, you know, slime.

[D]

Is that obvious?

[C]

I'm gonna go with. I'm gonna go with obvious. Yeah.

[A]

Obvious that Braun is not. He's not a. You know, he's Not a gang member. He's not a street. He's not. He's not in the street.

[B]

You don't think he's calling hits?

[A]

No, I don't think so. I think he's calling plays.

[B]

I was gonna say he. He knows how to.

[A]

He's calling plays. LeBron is calling plays, but he's not. He's not. He's not doing what the prosecution is trying to allege that is connected here by LeBron J doing handshake like. No, that's not what this is.

[C]

No. I mean, how I know that he's not in a gang is. Mario Chalmers is still alive. Steph Curry's still alive.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Draymond's still alive.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

I feel like if he was in a gang, a lot. A lot of people in the NBA might be clipped at this point.

[A]

Everybody. He lost two in the finals.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. You got to kill a. That you lost to in the finals if you're in the game.

[C]

Like, Paul Pierce would not be doing media right now.

[A]

No.

[C]

If. If Bron was really slime.

[A]

I do. I do feel like this is just gonna be time served, though. I think that this is. It's like, come on. I don't know how much more of this they gonna put young Thug through, put everybody else that's on trial through.

[D]

Put the judge through. Cause if I was a judge, you know, how aggravating.

[A]

No, the judge is completely, like, done with this case. He's completely pissed off with this. After the prosecution, they just fumbled the pack. They thought they had something. They thought they. It's. This shit is falling apart. Every time we look up, it's just another circus act that's going on in this trial. So I believe that this will end in just time served. And Thug goes on.

[C]

What do we think it looks like if Thug by Summertime is home? So this summer, does he do a press run?

[A]

Does he need to do one? This is the biggest press get low.

[D]

No, he keeps making music.

[A]

Oh, no, he's going to make music.

[B]

He has a feature on 21 Savage's album that comes out tomorrow, today.

[A]

So, no, he's definitely going to make music, but I don't think that. I think that Thug doesn't need any promotion coming out of this. I think this is the most. This is a promotion you can't even pay for right here. Like, this is for, you know, especially for a rapper. This is like you was on trial on a RICO case and you beat it and came home.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You don't have to say Anything. All you gotta do is just drop something. That's it. People going. Cause they wanna hear what you gotta say. Now the case is over. You beat the case. Time served, you home. Nobody.

[B]

I'll challenge that. Bobby Shmurda, someone that had a huge record, took it, took the charge, went away, came back. Yeah.

[D]

But that beat the case.

[C]

Apples and oranges, Young Thug.

[B]

And Bobby's different thing. He gets been real quiet, but he.

[D]

Didn'T beat the case.

[C]

Bobby Shmurda went away after putting out two big records. Didn't necessarily have a career, didn't have anything in order. Doug at this point is a veteran. He's a legacy artist almost. He's been around for a long time.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Way different than Bobby losing his entire 20s after catching six months of success.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Randomly. And then coming back home, like, trying to.

[A]

Trying to reignite it.

[C]

Drastically different. And Thug's support system, I think, is way different than Bobby Shmurda's was. Like, if Thug loses all his money in this trial and comes out innocent, he will have a lot of people to lean on financially. Whereas I don't know if Bobby did without someone really trying to take advantage of him when he got home. Which is why I was happy Bobby didn't just start taking deal left and right.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, and they just drastically different.

[A]

And like you said, just two. Two different type of artists. Like, one was been established for years and had his foot in the game for a while. And one was just trying to learn the industry and learn the music business and things like that before his freedom was taken away. I think that Thug now has an opportunity to put out some great music. He has an opportunity to, you know, change his sound a little bit. After going through something like this, it changes you mentally, of course. Spiritually, it changes you. So I'm sure his music will change a little bit. But either way, I think that this is something that Young Thug on a personal level can look at as like, this case is looking better for him day by day.

[C]

It'd be some real arrogant shit. But because of like double jeopardy. If he beats this, what if he comes home and just does YSL the Gang Festival? The best in Atlanta.

[B]

That'd be hard.

[C]

You know how great lineup that festival would go nuts. YSL the Gang Fest.

[A]

I don't. I think he gonna get far away from that as he can.

[B]

No, it's Young Savers of the Lord.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It'd be like a religious camp.

[C]

And you could. You could tunnel.

[B]

Yeah. Each the stages are connected by tunnels.

[A]

Tunnels, yeah.

[C]

You Thought Astro World was. Was a liability.

[B]

The green rooms are down there. You can sleep.

[A]

Yo, man. Shout out to thug prayers of thug Man. Hopefully. Like I said, I think this is a time served and he'll be home soon, so we'll just have to wait and see. But continue watching the circus, man. Continue watching it.

[C]

Maybe he does Kimmel. Maybe that's his first stop on the way home.

[A]

Kimmel and Aaron Rodgers, they've been going at it for the last few days because Aaron Rodgers made a statement on. I think. Was it Pat McAfee's Yes. Podcast. Aaron Rodgers had made a statement that there are people, guys like Jimmy Kimmel, who don't want the Epstein list to be revealed. And Epstein responded saying that Epstein did. I mean, excuse me, Aaron Rodgers. I mean, Jimmy Kimmel responded.

[C]

I knew you were on Aaron Rodgers.

[A]

No, no.

[C]

You red pill guys or whatever they call.

[A]

No, no, no.

[C]

Jimmy.

[A]

Jimmy Kimmel responded.

[B]

And probably do love Aaron Rodgers.

[A]

Me?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't really care about Aaron Rodgers.

[B]

I mean, politically, I feel politically not.

[C]

You're very much aligned.

[A]

Nah, I don't really. I don't really.

[C]

You're an anti V.

[A]

Am I anti vaxxer?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Did you get vaccinated?

[A]

Me.

[B]

All right.

[A]

I got my vax card. So, yeah, I did.

[B]

Mall Rogers.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

According to my card. Yeah.

[A]

I'm vaxxed.

[C]

Two do.

[A]

I'm vaxxed and waxed. Aaron Rodgers, remember that was a thing when they was girls. Was posting that on waxed and vaxxed. Waxed and vaxed, ready for the pool cesspool. But yes, Jimmy Kimmel responded and he said he was gonna. He was alleging that he was gonna sue Aaron Rodgers for defamation of character.

[C]

Fauci said there's a new variant coming. I'm just telling you he said it.

[A]

He's still allowed to talk?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

How many jabs in the army think Fauci took none?

[A]

Listen, man, some people got three shots and three boosters.

[B]

That's sick, yo.

[A]

What are you.

[B]

Six shots in like 24 months.

[A]

It's insane.

[C]

He didn't get any. He probably quoted Sosa, said, never get high on your own supply. That's a fact. Why you're not taking the shot?

[A]

Yeah, Nah, nah, I don't do that. That's like when Hilfiger was like, I don't wear that. Like, you don't wear your own shit. No, of course not. You know, that's classless.

[C]

It's like when you walk into the Chinese restaurant and all the Chinese kids are not eating the food that's on you.

[A]

No, no, I'm not eating that shit. But, yeah, Jimmy Kimmel responded, and he said that, you know, he was upset at the comments because it's alluding to the fact that he may be a pedophile. And Aaron Rodgers responded saying, I never alluded to that. I never said that. What I said was, guys like Jimmy Kimmel don't want the Epstein list to be revealed.

[C]

That was semantics, man. Aaron Rodgers is someone that's best.

[A]

It would hold up in the court of law.

[C]

Stand in your square. You've been this outspoken guy about a bunch of shit. You know exactly what you meant and what you said and what you alluded to. You knew everyone was going to take that as you saying Jimmy Kimmel was on the Epstein list doing nasty things.

[A]

But, Rory, you can take whatever I say the way you want to. If I didn't say that, that's not what I said. So in a court of law, because this is all Jimmy Kimmel was alluding to, that he would end up suing Aaron Rodgers for defamation of character. He's saying, I never said you were a pedophile. I never said that. Those words never came out in a court of law.

[C]

Cool. Maybe he would win. And that's not what I'm talking about at all. I'm saying, you know what you said on one of the biggest platforms, that is Pat McAfee. And you know how outspoken you've been about so much stuff in regards to that way of thinking. We know that guy. We know that Twitter troll Aaron Rodgers is their face.

[A]

Right?

[C]

Yeah, we come on. And I'm not here to defend Jimmy Kimmel, and I'm not vaccinated either way. You know what the fuck you said.

[B]

I don't like that Kimmel took it the I'm going to sue you route, because the minute Roger spars with him in a comedic way and Jimmy appropriately comes back with him with jokes, he should have kept it in the joke side.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because Jimmy would annihilate Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, if it's. If we're talking verbal spat, that's your field. Kill him. Jimmy's a really good comedian.

[A]

And not only that, it's. It's Aaron Rodgers. Like, if you're a comedian and Aaron Rodgers says something about you online, on a podcast or whatever, like, I feel like that's your time to really be a comedian.

[B]

Cook his ass.

[A]

Yeah. Like, you can really lean into that comedian shit here.

[D]

I hear what y'all saying, but people aren't Insinuating that y'all are pedophiles. Some shit. Some shit people just shouldn't play with. And I don't. I don't blame him for that. Like, that's not jokes.

[C]

It's the same way we talk about how Trump weaponizes his community, how Nicki Minaj weaponizes her community. Aaron Rodgers has that community that will find Jimmy Kimmel's wife's fucking license plate number. They will find his kids school. The moment you put him next to Jeffrey Epstein, that community loses their mind and will start harassing his family. Which has happened.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So you have to know, like, that's where I'm saying Aaron Rodgers. Like, okay, bet you didn't exactly say it the same way when they asked Trump. Do you deny Qanon? And he just said stand down, but stand by. He didn't tell them to do anything. But we knew what he meant when he said it. Aaron Rodgers did the same thing here with Jimmy Kimmel, and his fucking family was harassed over it. Now, if Jimmy Kimmel is actually on the list doing some nasty shit, cool. But it hasn't been put out. Has there even been, like, any evidence that possibly Jimmy Kimmel is on that list doing nasty shit?

[A]

Yeah, I don't know where that came from.

[C]

That's crazy. Aaron Rodgers should know his community and what they do when he says something like that.

[A]

Yeah, but again, you know, just on the side of. That's not what he said. He said guys like Jimmy Kimmel don't want the list to come out.

[C]

What's a guy like Jimmy Kimmel?

[B]

But why name him a Hollywood guy?

[A]

I don't know. Throwing Jimmy Kimmel's name in, it was crazy. Like, that. I don't like. I'm just like, why you landed on.

[C]

Guy from the Man Show.

[A]

I'm with you 100%. That was just random as fuck. But he did not say Jeffrey Epstein is a. I mean, Jimmy Kimmel is a pedophile. He never said that. Yeah, he never said that. And of course you can allude to it and that's what you're trying to say, and you're trying to put me next to this guy as being one of his codies or one of his, you know, alliances or his friends. Like, yeah, it makes you look a certain type of way. It makes you look nasty. But just on the fact that Jimmy Kimmel alluded to suing or going to court, he would lose that case.

[B]

And the McAfee show removed Aaron Rodgers as a correspondent, at least for the time being. It Looks like ESPN Intervented or Disney. And we're like, nah, you gotta go. Which it seemed like Pat spoke out about, and he was, like, pretty happy that they made that decision.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And see, that's the thing. You go on these platforms, right? Aaron Rodgers says what he says and gives you this moment that goes everywhere. It's viral. Jimmy Kimmel's responding. Y'all getting to this back and forth, right? Isn't this what these podcasts and these in these platforms want? They want guys that's gonna come over, come on there and say things that's gonna, you know, go viral and turn into something. And then when it does, it's like, oh, now we don't want you a part of this platform anymore.

[C]

Yeah. But I mean, it has to fit the agenda that they want. Like, Aaron Rodgers never gets Put it out.

[A]

They put it out. Pat McAfee released episode. He released the interview.

[D]

He took responsibility, too. He said, you know, I'll take responsibility for that. But of course he will. But he's also saying that the moment is viral. This isn't the first. I mean, wild thing that Aaron Rodgers has said. What he's saying is, like, this has continuously been like, Aaron Rodgers saying, wow, shit. He's like, I'm. I'm tired of my inbox being flooded with responses to the crazy shit that he said. Some people don't want that.

[B]

Yeah. Because to Damaris's point, Pat's getting the brunt of everything he says because his name is still the name of the show. And he's like, dude, I'm tired of, like, you say reckless shit. Go home. And then I'm just, like, left with all.

[A]

But that's bullshit, though. That's bullshit. Because Pat McAfee wants that he.

[B]

As a show. I would imagine it looks good, like, for a Nielsen rating.

[A]

Of course they want that. So don't sit here now. Because Disney or whoever stepped in and was like, yo, we can't have Aaron on the platform. And now it's like, oh, you know, good. Like, we want to kind of, like, separate ourselves from. From. From Aaron Rogers. Like, no, you don't. No, you don't. You kept going like, Aaron was a consistent personality on your podcast. You did. You spoke to him. I mean, he's not playing. He tore his Achilles. So he has a lot of downtime this season. So now it's like. Because Disney or whoever steps in is now it's like, oh, nah, we don't want that to be associated with our platform. Like, that's bullshit. You know, you wanted that viral moment. You wanted that. Y'all cut that clip. Y'all put it out. Y'all pushed it. It did what it had to do. Now, okay, Pat McAfee is saying, oh, we don't, you know, support those ideas and those views of Aaron Rodgers or whatever they're saying. Whatever PR shit they roll out after the fucking. The big bosses step in and say, yo, listen, we can't have that. Now. It turns into, oh, we don't. We don't want to associate ourselves with that. But you do, though.

[C]

But every corporation feels like the program is bigger than the person. Like, they'll use anyone to get salacious headlines. Get rid of them, rinse and repeat. Like, Tucker Carlson was the number one rated news anchor, period. Fox never thought, Tucker's bigger than me. So let's get rid of Tucker and get someone else in there that's just going to say salacious. They'll probably do the same thing here. They use Aaron for. For what he was worth.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Create as much controversy as we could. Now let's move on to the next person. Rinse and repeat. And we'll never be on the hook for it, even though we're the ones that keep hiring these people.

[A]

Yeah. But now how long before Aaron Rodgers gets his. His podcast?

[C]

I'm sure it's being recorded as we speak.

[A]

See what I'm saying? So it's like, cut it out with this. Well, he could definitely do that. He can definitely do that.

[C]

What did you guys think of Don Lemon? What's. How I say his last name? Is it Lemon?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

He's now part of X in what officially announced.

[A]

This is one of the X Men.

[C]

The same way that Tucker Carlson took his show to X. Don is doing the. The same thing, which I find extremely interesting. Say what you want about Elon Musk. I may agree with you, but I like what he's doing. As far as Don Lennon being the.

[A]

Platform for people to say what they want to say.

[C]

Face of the left first for quite some time. I know he then started to piss some of the left off, but he's been a representation of Democrats in media for quite some time. Tucker Carlson, obviously the opposite. Having both of them on your platform, I feel like it's how news should be. I'm not saying both of them are not full of shit, but at least both of these options are available on your platform.

[A]

The thing for me is you don't never want anybody that you always agree with everything that they say. You're not going to Agree with everything everybody says. You're not going to agree with everything everybody does. So if Aaron Rodgers says something like he said, yeah, he shouldn't have said it, but does that mean get him off the platform? Like, no, you just don't agree with what he said. Cool. Is Aaron Rodgers a terrible, horrible person? I don't think so.

[C]

I think it comes down to advertisers.

[B]

It's a cumulative. That's a cumulative. Yeah, cumulative effort. Like, it's not. It wasn't just this one offense. He's been saying things that have led to reactions and, like, outcry from other people.

[A]

But that's most people with these platforms, though.

[B]

You're not wrong.

[A]

Yeah, but I don't know they're gonna say that you. You don't agree with. Most of these people say things we don't agree with and we talk about it and then people are outraged and things like that. And it's like, okay, the next week they say something that you agree with, and you're like, okay, cool.

[D]

When you have a corporation who answers to advertisers. I'm not risking my bag or the bag. Like this multi million dollar bag off Aaron Rodgers want to say wild. I'm not putting myself in position to be sued. Like, any corporation will make that decision.

[C]

I just think it's hilarious that they have put Aaron Rodgers and the rhetoric that he's been saying for quite some time with the same result of Colin Kaepernick going like, hey, man, I really feel like police are going a little too far in how they treat black people. They treat it the same way.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It's like, what the fuck?

[A]

I just like the fact that X or Elon Musk is allowing these personalities and these people to have their platform and freedom of speech and to say things that they want to say. I mean, I can go on X and see a girl squirting all over her car seat. So why not go in there and listen to Don Lemon shout out, Must.

[D]

Be nasty, Ms. B.

[B]

That's how you want your feed to go. You want. Instead of commercial balance, I Want to.

[A]

See Ms. B Nasty Squirt all over her game console. And then I want to hear Don Lemon talk about. About, you know, what's going on in the world and things like that.

[C]

I mean, he's slowly and quietly creating a great strategy where you don't need to leave the app any last thing that you want.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You can find on this app.

[A]

X is like Target. It's the target of social media. It's Like, I went in here just to get some baby wipes. I left out of here with a lawn chair. I didn't know I needed a lawn chair until I came to Target.

[B]

Do you guys watch? I mean, these are. These haven't happened yet. Have you guys watched outside of the clips? Like, the full Tucker Carlson interviews on X?

[C]

Some of them, yeah.

[B]

Just like the in full, though. The whole hour thing. I can't. No, that's too much. The clips I can live with.

[A]

Yeah. I'm not watching a full hour of anything on X. I'm not just not doing it.

[C]

I mean, I had to watch the full Kevin Spacey interview. That was wild.

[B]

That was crazy.

[C]

He was in character as Frank from House of Cards the entire interview. It was. It was some creepy. Like, I felt like I was in a Twilight Zone or the Matrix during the entire thing. Because it was a real interview with Tucker being Tucker talking to Frank from House of Cards while one of the best actors, even though he's a creep, he is an incredible actor, was in character talking about current things in the US and shit. Based off what he was going through personally, it was. He unlocks, like, the seventh. The seventh wall at this point. I was. It, like, actually bothered me.

[A]

Do you think that they going to those interviews, Like, Kevin Spacey went into that knowing that he was going to be in character? Like, this is going to be like, me in character.

[C]

Yeah, 100%. I'm sure they planned that for quite some time. And it was say what you will about both of those people. It was refreshing to actually see news be made a mockery of in that type of style. Like, it wasn't a comedy bit, but it showed the circus of what we watch every day. Like, we are really watching a production.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I, you know, I know you guys hate when I defend Kanye and God forbid, now I'm defending Tucker Carlson and Kevin Spacey. But it was a beautiful example that I'd never seen done of. What you guys are watching is theater, and we'll prove it to you. And it was theater, and it was exactly like the news. Same answers. He just happened to be in a character we see on House of Cards. It was. It was nuts. And, you know, I didn't see too many people talking about it, but I don't know.

[B]

That was one of his first ones. No, no, it's like two weeks ago. Oh, no.

[A]

Tucker's been doing that.

[B]

No, I mean the Kevin Spacey one.

[D]

Oh, yeah. Because Kevin Spacey went, you know, when he got charged with all that Weird. Or when they accused all that weird. He was gone for a while. He's been out of the limelight.

[C]

He disappeared and then put up on YouTube, however many years ago. Let me be frank is what it was called. And he was in character.

[B]

That was weird.

[C]

Addressing all the things he was accused of as Frank from House of Cards. Yeah, bro. He's. He's. Next level. Like, I feel like to be that good of an actor, you have to be a creep.

[A]

That's low key.

[B]

Some genius to do, though, to stay in character.

[A]

Yeah. Because.

[C]

Let me be frank.

[A]

Yeah. Because it's like, I'm not. I'm not. I didn't.

[B]

From this person.

[A]

Right. Smart. That's what I'm saying.

[C]

I didn't clean up. I was just like, wow, that's creative.

[A]

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. It's not like you watch, you're like.

[B]

Damn, he's a good actor.

[C]

No. The entire time.

[A]

But you can't put that on Kevin Spacey.

[C]

So good at acting.

[A]

Yeah. Like, you can't put it on anything he says in that interview, doing that. You can't put on Kevin Spacey.

[C]

But. But then it puts in my mind who's really acting. Like, is Kevin Spacey ever acted? Is this just been Kevin Spacey the whole fucking time?

[D]

And they created a role for him.

[C]

Yeah. Like, his method acting is method living. He's. That's just who the fuck he is.

[A]

How manipulative do you think that great actors are in real life?

[B]

Oh, my. Very, very.

[A]

Like, how. How manipulative do you think, like, Denzel can be?

[C]

Like, everyone but Jonathan Majors. I think that's why he was actually fired. Not because of the.

[B]

Because he wasn't a good actor.

[C]

Like, how. Come on, you couldn't get out of a text message with your girlfriend. We can't have you in this franchise. You're an awful actor.

[A]

No, they saw that boot collection and they was like. They was like, nah. There's like, fam. We can't be aligned with a guy like this.

[C]

Well, how many.

[A]

He has no sneakers.

[C]

How many actors have, like, really long, successful marriages that are under the radar? Not to another celebrity. Probably not very many.

[D]

There's Denzel.

[C]

How long has Denzel been married?

[D]

A very, very.

[A]

At least 40 years. Yeah.

[D]

Samuel Jackson. But Samuel Jackson has been married for years to another actress as well.

[A]

Is Jim Carrey still married?

[B]

He was married twice. One lasted a year. The other one lasted. It looks like seven years.

[A]

Cause I thought it was interesting in that Dave Chappelle his recent standup. And he was talking about the time that he met Jim Carrey and he was Andy Kaufman. He was doing the Andy Kaufman movie. So the entire time he was in character as Andy Kaufman. And that was his first time meeting Jim. And he was excited to meet him. And he was like. He walked in the trailer, he was like, jim. And everybody was like, no, no, no, no. He's like. He's. He's Andy Kaufman. He's like in character 24 7. I just. That would have to. That ability to do that would have to affect your personal life.

[C]

Oh, absolutely.

[B]

Heath Ledger.

[C]

I mean.

[A]

Yeah, it has. For you to have the ability to hit a switch in your brain and do that, there's no way that that does not affect your personal life and your personal relationships with people.

[C]

Did you watch the Jim and Andy documentary on Netflix?

[A]

Absolutely. Yeah.

[C]

I mean, you can see how much it was affecting. It started out kind of funny.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But, you know, that got even crazier. Probably at home or with family. I wish I would have seen, like, Chappelle in the background of that Jim and Andy doc. That would have been hilarious. Yo, somebody posted a clip, like an old Saturday Night Live episode from, like, 95 or some. And you know at the end, like, when they do the send off and they have the whole cast there and like, the celebrities. I watched Tupac dap Will Ferrell and walk away. And I was like, this is the wildest shit I've ever seen. The fact that this is, like, documented. They're just, like in the background chopping it up and just, like, daps Will Ferrell on his way out.

[A]

Tupac did snl. I didn't even know that.

[C]

I didn't know that either. But, you know, I was five, so I feel like you should have known that.

[B]

You weren't there, Mom. Oh, no, Wrong crew.

[A]

I wasn't there.

[C]

Wrong crew.

[D]

Wrong side.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, I was not at Saturday Night Live in 1995.

[C]

Speaking of Chappelle, one of his actual sketches came to life this past week. And I'm gonna send this one over to mall. I don't think I should really lead this. This topic.

[A]

So there's this high school athlete. He's still in high school, correct? Yeah, he plays basketball and football.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

His name is Noah. I say Kaniga.

[C]

I believe the K is silent.

[A]

The K may be silent.

[C]

Give respect to his family's last name.

[A]

So his name is Noah, nigga.

[C]

Mm.

[B]

Do you know him?

[A]

That's my nigga.

[B]

Do you wanna hear you know of him? Should we play how the family pronunciates it? Cause they. They throw.

[A]

That's what I wanna hear. I wanna hear the family enunciate the.

[C]

Last name and shout out to RG3 for getting this interview, of all people.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

How do you pronunciate your last name?

[B]

Also, this is how you pronunciate it. It's Noah Kanega. You said Kanega like that.

[A]

What do you mean by that? See, that's the key. Kanega.

[B]

So they throw the K in there.

[A]

Kanega. Okay, not the first time a K's been thrown at a nigga, but okay.

[C]

But typically, you know what?

[A]

Not the first time.

[B]

First of all, I studied English. The K is always silent. You never pronounce. You never say the K. Is there.

[C]

Any other word that has a K and an N in it where the K is ever pronounced like knight?

[B]

Like an armored knight? You don't say K night. It's knight.

[A]

Knife.

[C]

So according to Ancestry.com this last name is traced back to Britain and Ireland. So. So I. I asked. Now do I get a pass to say Kanega?

[A]

Yeah, you could say Kanega. All right, cool.

[C]

I was making sure. All right, well, I'll get us out of that topic because I think we're dragging it and I don't want to get in trouble. Breakfast Club is back in disarray, Ma. I guess you were right. I mean, you were eight years too early, but I think you were correct. It's looking a little shaky over there. I think I'm here to compliment them. By the way, there is no beef. I want to say a week ago or two weeks ago, there was an announcement that Jess Hilarious was going to be the full time host at the Breakfast Club to fill in for Angela E. For I think over a year, they were doing guest hosts and just having different people come in and out. Jess Hilarious did a great job. So it made.

[A]

Yeah, she did shout out to Jess Hilarious.

[C]

Made a lot of sense when we saw that announcement. But this morning, January 11th on Thursday, Envy and Charlemagne were going back and forth saying that there has been no hire. They're getting frustrated with the whole situation. They didn't want it to just be the two of them for this long. They thought they would hire someone within a few months to a year. And it really seemed like Jess was that. But clearly that's not the case. So I'm not really sure what to believe or if that announcement even was real because clearly Envy and Charlamagne are not. With this back and forth shit.

[A]

I Thought that. Well, again, we don't know if that announcement was official or not.

[C]

Well, it couldn't be.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Because as of today, they say there's. There is no replacement right now. There is no new hire, and they're tired of doing Rumor report.

[A]

What? But why not just bring Jess Hilarious on full time?

[D]

Well, anything could have happened. They could have. They could have offered her amount of money. They could. You know, maybe they didn't come to an agreement with the terms of a contract.

[A]

It would have to be something like that. Yeah, it would have to be something like. Because I. Again, when that report came out, I thought it was legit. I thought it was official. Obviously it wasn't. But do you want to see a new, like, permanent replacement or do you want to see, like, the continuous.

[C]

The guest host thing I thought was actually pretty cool. I think it added a new element to it. They need to hire someone full time, though. And I mean this as an absolute compliment to Envy and Charlemagne. They're treating this just as a job now. I think they rightfully so went in there, threw their dick on the table for how much money it would take to keep them there. I think they overcharged for what they did to the coal crush. And Envy and Charlemagne were not turning down that amount of money rightfully so. So now I think they treat this show as just a job that they go to in the morning, and they have other ventures outside of that that they are actually focused and passionate about. I'm not here to make a real estate joke, I promise. I just think they both have other things they care about. So this is just a. Let me go there in the morning, read the script and leave. Breakfast Club needs someone that's going to treat that shit like it's their baby. It's not just their job, it's their new venture. They're going to come in there the way Envy and Charlemagne first came in. We're like, we're here to make impact. We're here to do something. This is not just a paycheck. This is our shit. So they need someone full time that's gonna have that type of energy. Cause rightfully so, Envy and Charlamagne are, you know, going through the motions. And I don't. And I don't fault them for that at all.

[A]

When I said the Breakfast Club was over, I meant because obviously things were happening where you could just see the writings on the wall. Like people were developing into their own brands and had a lot of things going on outside of the Breakfast Club brand, which means Their attention, their energy was elsewhere. So naturally, things will start to pull them away from what they all built together. Not necessarily a bad thing, because you build things and you create things to move on and do other things and, you know, everything has its shelf life and things like that. So it's not a negative thing to say the Breakfast Club is over, but obviously it's not what it was once was. It's going through a bunch of changes and, you know, personalities are not there no more. Angela Yee's gone. So the chemistry is totally different now. If you're rotating guests all year, pretty much week to week, month to month, the energy is gonna be different. Different personalities mixed differently. So it's a different thing now. It's still called the Breakfast Club, but it's a different thing now. It's not what it once was or what we grew up knowing it to be.

[C]

Well, I mean, I thought.

[A]

I think that Charlamagne and Envy should both. Honestly, aside from they're both getting paid very well being there, I think they should step aside and let it grow into something totally different.

[C]

But I think that's what a new hire would do where they could take more of the backseat, almost like GM coaching rule, like someone else can be the star. But they are still there.

[A]

Let them. Let them still produce. Let Envy and Charlemagne still produce the show.

[C]

Yeah, which I think they were trying to do with Jess and some of those other co hosts that they were bringing in to rotate to see who made the most sense, because a lot of them were Charlemagne's friends. Friends and people that he has helped and put on already. So, I mean, I'm not sure what I heart is doing or if that kind of says how they feel about the Breakfast Club in general. Maybe it's not something they want to fully invest in. And it would take a certain amount of money to get Jess there or someone like Jess. I thought she would have been great. But my backup up until two days ago was Bitcoin Rodney, but then he was arrested. I thought he'd be a great fill in. He's been on the Breakfast Club teaching us all about bitcoin the same way Caesar taught us about real estate. You know, Breakfast Club has always been there to teach us life lessons in the business world. But Bitcoin Rodney was. Well, let me start with this. Free.

[A]

Free Rod feels backwards. Scream. Free Rod needs to lose Backwards. Yeah.

[C]

Rodney Free.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

For those that don't know Bitcoin Rodney or did not catch his episodes on the Breakfast Club, he's pretty much The Caesar of bitcoin shit. He was arrested for an absolute Ponzi scheme for bitcoin. Just like Caesar, he was in jail, then he was free, and then just stumbled upon millions of dollars out of nowhere. He read one book at the law library and was like, yo, I understand bitcoin now, Essentially, what his Ponzi scheme was, people would invest into his bitcoin business with somebody over in China that was his partner. Say, I invested $3,000 with Bitcoin, Rodney. I would then get $6,000 worth of their bitcoin. So I would then be like, oh, wow, the moment I invested, I doubled my money.

[B]

You're up.

[C]

But then we found out his $6,000 meant absolutely fucking nothing. And then he ran away with my liquid cash. And now. Now I'm sitting here with $6,000 of worthless shit that's just on my computer desktop. It's just a number on my screen. I can't spend it anywhere. So to me, he explained bitcoin, but it's a Ponzi scheme.

[B]

He allegedly frauded more than $7 million through this fake investment scheme that you just detailed.

[A]

All right, well, bitcoin Rodney about to be jpay. Rodney in a minute, gonna have to hit him on his jpay and show him some love. I just, you know, I understand everybody's out here and everybody got these different moves they make and these hustles and things like that. I just don't know why everyone thinks that they're smarter than the federal government.

[C]

I don't know either.

[A]

Like, I just don't. I don't get that. Like, I just don't get how people think that they're gonna, you know, run these schemes and run these, you know, these companies that aren't legit and aren't really doing business the right way. How long do you think before the IRS and the government come knocking and say, hey, listen, you owe us this now, if you have this money to give back. See, that's how the government works. If you have the money to give back, we straight. We good? Yeah, all good. No harm, no foul, no blood. It's all good. But if you don't have that money, you gonna have to go sit down for a minute. And I just don't understand how people continue to run these schemes and things like that and think that they're outsmarting the irs. Listen, they print the money. They know where the money's going. They know where it's at. They know how much of it is out there. They print it. They put Them serial codes on each bill for a reason. And if you think that you're gonna outsmart the people who are actually printing this money, then just keep doing what you're doing and we'll see you on jpay.

[C]

I just think so many people fall for the age old government thing where they just let you commit crime for a while. Like they know you're doing something illegal.

[A]

Right.

[C]

But they're going to continue to let you do it so they can build the case. And you're going to start getting this confidence of like, I just got that playoff and yeah, there was no attention. Let me do this next one. And then three years passes and you're like, I think, I think I have this under control. Yeah, I would have been arrested by now.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And it's like, oh yeah, no, we've been watching you for three years. We just wanted you to get to 7 million. I think we were going to arrest you when you were at 5,000.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It looks like he totaled 562 wire transfer transfers or cashier's checks, which was. It says upwards of 7.8 million actually.

[C]

Crazy. Poor envy, man.

[A]

I mean, is it poor envy, though?

[C]

That was his man's.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You're the company, you keep. Look at his team.

[C]

He's. He brought some wild people onto that show.

[A]

Yo. Bitcoin Rod is crazy. Oh, man. But either way, man, Breakfast Club, I think that honestly needs a complete revamp though. I mean, obviously Charlemagne and MVR legends and the Breakfast Club is one of the most iconic platforms that we've ever had in our culture. Without a doubt. But I think that it's obviously, it's something else now and it's time for a whole new. A whole new thing.

[C]

Well, it should have been a sign because Hot 97 got to premiere the Jay Z and D'Angelo song when breakfast Club didn't. But they premiered it. And it made me feel bad because if this was years ago, somebody would have ripped that entire stream off the radio. We would have had it.

[A]

Oh yeah.

[C]

There was only like a minute snippet that, that Elliot posted, which I will say when you're listening to this podcast, the whole song is out. So we're not going to dive too deep into this. But this is the day before it comes out. We only know the snippet. And I will say, I'm not sure where HOV is taking us in that snippet. I know it's a 10 minute long song, so I'm not gonna judge what I heard. I just. Where Was Sean going with that one?

[A]

I think that we know by now if Jay is gonna get in the booth and record music again, it's gonna be because he's gonna say something of significance. It's not gonna just be to just put shit out. Obviously on DJ Khaled album. God, did you know when he does things like that, when he puts out music, he's making a statement, he's teaching, he's trying to, you know, get people thinking on. On a different level, which is what he's supposed to do at this point in his career. It's like, what else can he say? What else can he do?

[C]

Also a D'Angelo record.

[A]

Like, you gotta Dennis D'Angelo.

[C]

But he was, like, talking on this shit and I get like. He was giving us some cool, like, grown Instagram captions. Yeah, I slept on the couch because it's not a bed without you. Like, I see where he was taking it. But he didn't have to do it in a weird accent and then rhyme it with Daddy cigarettes or something. I just. I was. I was lost.

[A]

But the Book of Clarence is out January 12th. Shout out to James Samuels. The. The. The. The reports of the movie. Because they debuted and they premiered in LA last week.

[C]

You flew out for the day.

[A]

No, I wish I did, though. But I did.

[B]

Day trip to la.

[A]

Sick. But I'm hearing great things about the movie. Same James is doing. James is doing a great job, man of just portraying, you know, black excellence and black culture and telling these stories from a different perspective than they've been told traditionally. You know, I just think that he's doing a great job. He's doing it his way. He did the entire soundtrack. Produced entire soundtrack, composed it.

[C]

I have never seen a director also do the soundtrack. Like he's the primary artist.

[A]

Yeah. Thing.

[C]

And I mean, if you know the bullets and know James's background. Yeah, he was a musician first. An incredible one at that. Yeah, I just think that's a. For that no one's really discussing. Maybe I'm wrong. I can't think of another director that has done that. I can't think of that's incredible.

[A]

Any other director that has done something like that. It just speaks to James's genius, his talent level, his vision. And I think that this is another installation and capsule of what his creative mind is going to give to the culture. I think that this is just the beginning of it. I think that we're just starting to see James really hit his stride and deliver powerful projects like the Book of Clarence. The soundtrack. Amazing. Lil Wayne, D'Angelo, Jay Z. It was a bunch of other people on the track list that I saw, and I was just like, James is really your crush.

[C]

Doja's on there.

[A]

Doja, Cat Kodak, Georgia Smith, Cudi.

[C]

Yeah. And I'm. I'm excited to hear James on the shit. More the features. But can we make this about us before we get into voicemails?

[A]

Let's do it.

[C]

I mean, you're saying how amazing James is as a director. Can we tell the world what he said to us?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Somebody put us on FaceTime with James, and he said, for some strange reason, you two can act. And I wasn't sure if that was a backhanded compliment.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Or not.

[B]

Sounds like it.

[C]

I mean, we weren't supposed to know how to act, so I guess it's not.

[B]

Wait, when did you act? He's talking about the skit.

[C]

Our sketches.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[C]

He was. Why? He was watching those and got you was blown away. That mall and I had any acting ability whatsoever.

[A]

I could see why that was surprising. Marty, though.

[C]

I agree. It was just funny how he said it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Because I wasn't sure if he was shitting on me or not.

[B]

Damn. He couldn't find room for you in this film, Rory.

[C]

When we spoke to him, I think he was in. Was it Italy?

[A]

Yeah, I think they were. They were shooting. They had just started shooting the Book of Clarence. Yeah. When we spoke to him last year. But, yeah, I mean, you know, he has other projects he's. He's working on, and, you know, we'll see what the future holds. Maybe one day will be in a James Samuel production and creation.

[C]

Never know.

[A]

But either way, book of Clarence, January 12th. Go support that. Go download the soundtrack as well. Just another creative genius in our culture that I think that it's important that we support and we pay homage to. So shout out to James Samuels on another great project, Book of Clarence.

[C]

Showing your age with that download.

[A]

No, that's not what it is. Stream says a stream.

[B]

When's the last time you downloaded something?

[A]

It's been a. Been a while.

[B]

Been a minute.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

Well, even if you stream, you can still download it to your phone. Not every song you stream is downloaded to your phone.

[A]

That's true.

[C]

Well, go download it.

[A]

Download it.

[C]

Go buy it off itunes or buy your local support store.

[A]

Post it, share it, repost it, do whatever you got to do, man. Because James is very important to our culture, so we got to support him.

[C]

Agreed. Voicemails. You've Got mail. Voicemails said there were some good ones today.

[B]

I pleasantly sipping my coffee this morning, listening to about five or six new ones that came in that made me very excited.

[A]

Drinking hazelnut?

[B]

No, I bought a. It's like a dark cherry. It's a more. It's a more full body, darker blend.

[C]

Was it. Was it free from your app?

[B]

No, it's from this. From Whole Foods. I bought. These are like. I buy whole beans and then I grind them at home, and then I make it in the little French press, and then I use oatmeal.

[A]

French. He has a French press.

[C]

He gets free coffee and sandwiches and salads. Because he's a model.

[B]

Why do you got to tell more that?

[A]

I just want to hear the voicemails, bro.

[C]

There's an app that, like, you submit your portfolio to, and they're like, no, you. You're a model.

[A]

You look good.

[B]

That's bullshit. Because Rory here's a free coffee, asks how to get on it.

[C]

Oh, no. I downloaded it and then I had realized you had to submit a portfolio. You have to IG work.

[A]

Yo, they have my ig. Maybe that might give me a free coffee.

[C]

Because you got to understand, like, in this neighborhood, Julian's walking around like with an AMEX card. He doesn't have to pay off. He's just getting free left and right. I want. I wanted it.

[B]

It is fine.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah. Well, let's start with this little relationship advice here. We have a gamer that's trying to link with this girl, Damaris.

[E]

Yo, what's up? You guys call me Davis. I'm reside out of North Carolina. I saw you guys in Charlotte when you came out here on your first tour. Show was great, man. We love for you guys to double back out here so we can show you more love out here in the Queen City. I want some advice from you all, though. I've been talking to somebody for about five months now. We talk every day, every night. We game together. We met via gaming. So we have a lot in common. I spent a lot of energy and invested in this person. She asked for me as well. My question though, is. Or my concern, excuse me, is when I bring up the idea of meeting in person, I'm always met with hesitation or I'm met with an unclear answer. And I want to know what you guys think about that. I know she's real. I've seen plenty of pictures, FaceTimed, all that type of stuff. So it's not like a catfishing thing, but I don't know what it is we've invested a lot of time with each other. So before it makes that next step, I just want to know what the interaction is in person. But she's hesitant about that. So let me guys, let me know what you guys think. Maybe. Would you guys be willing to potentially move to another state to be with somebody? Maybe.

[A]

Why?

[E]

Why not? Keep doing what you're doing though. We love the podcast. Stay blessed.

[C]

So did he mention where she lives? So she's not in Charlotte, she's not local, man.

[A]

He wants. His last question was, would you move to another city to be with somebody?

[B]

Which we can get to that you've never met.

[C]

I want to tackle this first part of okay, she's not Catfish, but doesn't want to link him.

[A]

How does he know she's not catfish?

[D]

He said he's FaceTimed her. He's seen plenty of pictures, yada, yada.

[B]

I don't buy the pictures part, but FaceTime, sure.

[A]

Okay. If you FaceTime somebody and that's who.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

The person is sending you pictures, then okay, it's like, all right, if she's.

[D]

Doing from the neck up game, I.

[C]

Think by catfish, I think he's suggesting she's a real person. That's the degree of catfish we're talking.

[A]

Yeah. She may not be as attractive in person as her photos, maybe, but it is the person that she's portraying in the photos.

[C]

That's what I think he means by catfish. Like he's not talking to just some dude.

[A]

I think that she may just have somebody else and he's like just her fun getaway pen pal. You know, text and FaceTime whenever I'm not with my significant other type of, type of deal. But she's not jumping out the window, leaving her relationship for, for this guy. Yeah.

[C]

Sounds like she's in a very long term relationship and it's just getting boring. And she can hide behind, oh, this is my gamer friend. If he ever gets caught when she's on the video games, he doesn't fucking, he's none the wiser what she's doing. So that's what I personally think. To answer a second question, I mean, if you want to move in with her and her family, with her husband.

[A]

And kids, it's tricky moving to another city to be with somebody. Especially if you're moving to her city. Like if the guy is moving, it's tricky because it's like, okay, are you moving? And then you're going to try to move into her spot or you move in there getting your own place and she's moving in with you?

[B]

Never met.

[C]

Well, I think he's. He's asking another hypothetical. I don't think he's saying, I've never met this woman in person and I'm about to just move to her city. I don't think he's that crazy, guys. I think he was just asking another question.

[A]

Like, would he move to the city to be closer to her?

[C]

Yeah, like, say. Say they meet and they hit it off and they want to actually continue a relationship. Do you mind?

[A]

I can't. I don't know, man. That's such a big.

[C]

That's a stupid thing.

[A]

I mean, if you're gonna move to another. If you're gonna move to another city, let it be a city where you can plant your own roots, though. Like, you can go. You can. You have a job, or if you work remote, you can get your own place. But I wouldn't say move to another city and just try to jump out there and, like, live with someone. Like, I wouldn't. I wouldn't do that. If you wanna be closer to somebody and, you know, be able to see them and have, you know, random dates and things like that, then I'm not saying don't go for it because people have done it and has worked out and they're together and have families and love and things like that. But I would just always say, man, have your own situation, though.

[B]

Don't go there with her being the only reason why you're moving.

[A]

Yeah, like, don't. Don't.

[C]

It's crazy.

[A]

Go there and make sure you have options, that if that doesn't work out, you still are able to survive in that city and able to do your own thing and you're able to be productive in that city. But you don't want to go there and just put all your cards in making it work with this significant other. And then when that doesn't happen, now you're scrambling and trying to figure out what it is you're trying to do. So, yeah, if you want to move closer to her, go for it, but definitely have your own shit going on or your own place, your own income, your own job, things like that.

[B]

He said something I found interesting. He said, I wanted to meet with her. It just hasn't happened for. Whatever excuses. Have you said those things in passing? Like. Or how direct have you been? Be like, hey, like, I really enjoy playing this game with you. We have great conversations on the game on FaceTime. Whatever. I want to see you this weekend. Like, I think Is he being too passive with it? Or be more definitive and be like, hey, look, if in a week's time, two weeks time, depending on how far apart they are from each other, like, yo, not pack up and move there. But like, okay, say she's like a six hour drive. I'll drive to you. Or like, I'll fly to where you're at. Like, let's spend real time together. That's not on the game. I think at this point it sounds like he needs to just be more direct about it. And if she is hiding something, I feel like that would be her cue to be like, oh, well, this is actually what's going on in my personal romantic life. This is why I can't see you.

[A]

Yeah, it's always so funny to hear things that people go through like in romantic or, you know, personal relationships with people because I feel like I would never even entertain the thought of doing something like that. Like picking up and moving to another city to like be next to a woman that I never met. I wouldn't even be thinking about that. I don't care how many times we facetime. Like, I'm not going to be thinking about, yo, I'm going to move to.

[C]

I don't think that's as common as we think it is to just up and move to a city based off someone you have never met before.

[A]

I think it's maybe not. I'm not going to say it's common, but I think a lot of people do it.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I think a lot of people do that.

[B]

I know some friends that have moved to be, if they're a girl or whatever, got a job and they shifted their work to that city. And to what we're saying, you make like a thing out of it. But then the few people I know that have done that, their relationship in the new city always breaks up and the person always ends up coming back to New York.

[C]

That's because long, long, long term, long distance relationships are fake. They're not real.

[B]

No, not.

[C]

Sorry to burst.

[B]

Everyone's not long distance. Like they meet in New York, get in a relationship, Homegirl gets a really fantastic job in like Austin, Texas.

[C]

Oh, you're saying moves.

[B]

He's like, it. I'm in banking. I can bank in Texas. Moves there got you. They fought, they try the new city thing and then it implodes.

[C]

I've just seen so many people that are in long distance relationships that like actually meet and are together when they finally get in the same city. It's different because their relationship is based off missing someone. And the time that you guys have together is just like bliss because you haven't seen them. It's like the best weekend in your life.

[B]

It's the honey fighting.

[C]

You never have to face real relationship because you're just. You're on a high for three days and then you go back across the country and you miss them more and then repeat.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And then when you guys finally have to deal with each other every day, it's like, oh, this isn't the same as the weekends.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

But I think it's just. You can probably still keep the weekend things. I think for people like that, like, just.

[C]

Just stay that way. It's fine.

[D]

I think. But relationship. I think a lot of relationships could use some distance where it's like, completely.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Because a lot of the arguments are just, y'all being tired of each other.

[A]

Long distance relationships is like online shopping.

[B]

Elaborate.

[A]

Like, once the package arrives and you get. Might not fit.

[C]

Like, yeah. Why? What was I doing?

[A]

You know what I'm saying? Like, it might not fit. Yeah.

[C]

It's just like, why was I drunk at 3am Shopping online?

[A]

Yeah. It's like, it was a good idea, but now that it's here and I'm actually holding the product and I'm putting it on and I'm just like, it's not what I.

[B]

Have you guys ever tried a long distance relationship or just any amount of distance?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Jersey to Queens.

[A]

That's a long distance.

[C]

That's very long.

[B]

I mean, locally, that is the longest.

[C]

That's like, this was before Uber.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. That's like an hour and a half commute. Yeah, I've tried. I've had long distance relationships. Some. Some relationships, like long distance relationships actually turned out to be like lifelong, like, friendships, though. Like, it never, like, went full, like, romantic and we not together, but, like, we're still cool, though.

[C]

Like, all your relationships.

[A]

No.

[D]

Yeah, I used to only do longer. You stupid. You're so stupid.

[C]

What were you saying? I'm sorry.

[D]

I said I used to only do long distance relationships because of that miss you factor. Like, I get tired of people quick. So I used to prefer long distance relationships. I would always be in.

[A]

What's long distance, though?

[D]

I would be in Syracuse dating somebody in New York all the time. That's not really my whole four hours. That's not long distance.

[C]

That's a good long distance. You can make an impulse decision, like, all right, I'll see you tomorrow. Yeah, you could say that's a Good.

[A]

Tonight, Like, I'm coming to this. I'll see you tonight. Like, I could tell you that at noon and bloody. I'll see you tonight.

[B]

But to her point, she wants her city to be like her. See, like she could live her own life, independent of the other person, that.

[A]

They'D just be one space to date other people.

[B]

She does. Well, not date, but she just wants to be independent, alone, not to date. And my bad.

[D]

I just, like, I liked having my own, like, people never met my parents because my parents lived in Syracuse and it was just like, oh, when I come to you, like, this is your world. We have a blast. And then like, I go home because.

[C]

Then that makes it like super official because you have to show them around. Like, they have to meet your high school friends.

[D]

Yeah, I'm just like, I'm good. Like, I'm.

[C]

We're married now.

[D]

Yeah, I don't like that.

[C]

Yeah, that would be odd. But I mean, you were making those trips up to Montreal all the time.

[A]

You say all the time.

[C]

That was, that was long distance.

[A]

That's what, that's how dudes do you. You do something once and it's. Yo, you do that all the time.

[B]

Like it's in the passport book. We can see how many trips you made.

[A]

No, we didn't get through.

[B]

It's income.

[A]

They wouldn't let. They wouldn't let us through.

[B]

But you found a way for her.

[A]

For her.

[B]

You went through the tunnels, got her across the.

[A]

There's no tunnels in Montreal. There might be. Let me not say that. Yeah, but no, from the synagogue in Brooklyn. Long distance are cool, though, if it's, you know, you meet the right person and. But just know, like, realistically, it's like, this is probably not going to work in real life, though.

[C]

It's annoying when you do the long distance relationship and she lives in like a popping city where you know a lot of people. And I'm not saying to go like hoe or do anything, but like, say I'm dating someone in LA and we don't see each other often and I'm going to be in LA for three days. But because we don't see each other a lot, I now need to dedicate, no matter what, my three days in Los Angeles to you. Right. And even though I want to do that, I also, like, have a bunch of other people I haven't seen and.

[A]

Have friends and things like that.

[C]

Yeah, that's. That's always the worst.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Make sure if she's long distance, she lives in Kentucky.

[B]

Like a bomb ass city that you.

[C]

Don'T really particularly care unless you know Jackson down. Yeah.

[A]

If you date a girl in a city that is like a popping city that you're in a lot, and then it's like, oh, you didn't come here to see me.

[C]

You know, it's here for work.

[B]

Like, what if you do one of those sneak trips where you don't tell her you're out there and you like, say you actually go there for a work thing or like another friend's event.

[A]

And it's like a quick trip and.

[B]

It'S quick and you're like, I want to do this with my guys, or whatever the thing is.

[A]

Yeah. And she just, oh, I've done that. That's. That's worse. They find out you were there, I'll.

[B]

Say you get caught.

[A]

Oh, that's. That's what. Now you asking for, like a whole different issue. That's worse. You can't go to a girl city breakup. Yeah. Like, you can't go to a girl city that you talk to and, like, really talk to. Like, you spent time together, like, and y'all had like a thing. Like, this is like your girl, basically. And you go to that city, like, even only if it's work or it's an event. Two days and then you're back out. You can't let her find out that you were there for that.

[C]

Sounds too stressful too, because now I'm like walking around telling people like, yo, don't put me on your story. Yeah, like, that's just too much work, man. I'm not in Atlanta.

[A]

That's too much work. That's way too much work. And it's too much precious. Like, you go out to eat in that city, you like, damn. Like, yo, what if she walks in here, like, and I'm sitting here like, chilling with the homies and like, she sees me at this table and then.

[C]

You'Re lying on text, she's like, yo, what you up to? Yeah, like, and then you really asking her detailed, like, what part of the city do you happen to be? Right.

[A]

You can't FaceTime her because it's supposed to be night time. We're in New York, but you're in la. The sun is still out. Like, it's just a bunch. It's just too much to keep up.

[D]

LA will catch you up with that quick. Because everybody goes to the same places.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah. It's like, what's, what's always awkward is when you go to her city and like, she Takes you out, and she knows certain people, and you just kind of, like, sit there, like. Like starting to add up in your head. We've all been there. We've had that conversation. What's weirder is when you go to her city and you run into people, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And she's like, you've been here before. Yeah, like, novel years ago. They just said you was here, though.

[A]

Yeah, man. Nothing is la, la, la will get you caught up.

[C]

And then. Then she just says, like, passive aggressive for the rest of the night. Like, no, no, it's your city. You. You tell us where to go.

[D]

You say, yeah, you little slit.

[C]

You hit the promoter.

[A]

Yo, Dayton is so crazy, man. Like, it's just a crazy game. Like dating. It's a crazy game.

[C]

It's a weird concept.

[A]

It is.

[C]

It's a concept that doesn't make much sense, but it's human nature.

[A]

But it's. It's also fun, though. Like, it's very fun. It's fun. It could be fun. You got to make it fun. But it can be stressful.

[C]

Do we have one more, or.

[D]

I gave him no advice, by the way, homie, she don't like you.

[C]

Ask her directly.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Or be direct. We also told her that she probably has a family.

[A]

She has another. She has a real relationship.

[B]

Okay, I'll let you guys choose A fun, silly one. Or something more serious.

[C]

Fun, silly.

[B]

All right, deal. It is Friday.

[C]

We talked about tunnels.

[F]

All right, gang. He's gonna tell I gotta stay anonymous on this one, but I bet you do, Rabbi. My girl has been alluding to the fact that she wants her nails done for about a week now. She is home yesterday. All of a sudden, she says, hey, my. My co worker is going to get their nails done tomorrow. Do you care if I go with them? I was like, I mean, yeah. Wait, wait. You said. You said with him. She said, yeah, this is my. My homie. I'm not to throw his name out there, but this is. This is the homie. All right? Immediately my. My. My stomach starts turning.

[A]

I.

[F]

Of course, Similar to what Rory would do. I played it cool, acted like I'm the most secure man on earth, that of course it's cool to go get nails done with your straight male friend who's light skin and wears bracelets and get his nails done. That's super, super cool. Because I'm a cool boyfriend. You know what I mean? I'm freaking out. Is that normal? Is this. Should I be cool with this? Do I need to dump her?

[C]

Let me know, okay, he played it like me. And no, I would have no issue with this.

[A]

Wait, you would have no issue? Girl going to get her nails done.

[C]

With a guy with her male friend. I'm totally fine.

[B]

He's light skinned with bracelets.

[C]

Now you're judging him. And there's another word for that.

[A]

Let's. It's not an impossible thing for a girl to go get her nails done with a guy. It's not impossible.

[D]

You get your nails done with girls before, right?

[A]

With a girl you never took like.

[D]

Your homegirl with you?

[A]

I may have. Not often though.

[B]

You always go dolo?

[D]

Yeah, I mean, most people go dolo.

[C]

But yeah, I may have some questions like who's the work friend?

[A]

Yeah, but if I'm going with a girl to get my how nails done together, I'm probably trying to knock her down though. So let's be. See, that's, that's the difference in this story. Not saying I've never taken a girl and gone got her nails done and we've got, you know, a manicure together. But if I did, it probably was a girl that I was attracted to and if the opportunity presented itself, we would be physical.

[C]

Is there something sensual about getting your nails done? Sometimes you're not even on the same side of the salon. No, it's not about like, if I go with my homegirl to get my nails and feet done, I might put my airpods in the entire time we're there together.

[A]

No, I'm not saying to be all over each other while you're getting your nails done. I'm just saying like, if I'm going to get a manicure with a girl, it's probably a girl that I am probably interested in.

[C]

Well, it sounds like he was at work and was just having like work banter and said, yo, I'm about to get my nails done tomorrow. And she was like, oh, I need to get them done.

[A]

Yeah, but you know how it is.

[C]

Doesn't mean he was trying to fuck. It just means he actually had an appointment.

[A]

Yeah, but people in the workplace, you know, a lot of people cheat with people at the workplace. It's like, that's a slippery slope, man.

[D]

So y'all know I'm, I'm team defend all women, right? So I will be rocking with her, going to get her her nails done with her male friend. If he hadn't gave this little piece of information where he said she's been mentioning all week about wanting to get her nails done. She was laying breadcrumbs, baby she was always going with homie. But what she did was lay the breadcrumb so that you can keep hearing nails done, nails done, nails done. So that when she finally went, it's not a surprise to you that she's going, y'all look.

[C]

That's not the angle. I would have went, you guys are diabolical.

[B]

So she's so you're.

[C]

I would have said, because he didn't pay for her nails.

[B]

That's what I was thinking.

[C]

That was the breadcrumbs. Like, hey, how would you pay for my nails? Or take me to get my nails?

[A]

Wow.

[C]

That's really what it was.

[B]

She's like, oh, no, You've been known that. I've been mentioning it. But she revealed that it was him like the last second.

[C]

By the way, I'm going, yomi's. That's sick. I really thought it was like a payment thing.

[B]

And damn.

[A]

And oh, he's paying.

[B]

There has to be history here. There has to be more context.

[C]

That's where I draw the line.

[B]

They definitely get drinks together and like that.

[A]

You have to.

[B]

I would imagine you have to go.

[C]

Eat high end nails after you get your nails done.

[A]

You have to go get some.

[C]

I'm imagining champagne at the nail space.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Because how often does she get her nails done? Cuz if she's a regular, like. Like, I go get my nails done every two weeks. Right. If she goes regularly. And homie said he wanted to get his nails done and she's just like, oh, bring out. I got a girl. Like, I like my shop. Come with me. That's different. But she's saying she kept mentioning that she wanted or needed to get her nails done. It's like, is this not a regular thing for her? Is he like putting her onto the nail spot? Like, what's. I need to know a little bit more before I condemn her. But I'm sorry that. That I need to get my nails done. I need to get my nails done. I need to get my nails done. Then Friday, oh, I'm going with my homeboy to get my nails done. That's laying breadcrumbs.

[A]

Easy fix. All you got to do is pop up at the nail salon and Blake, drop.

[C]

Oh, me too.

[A]

Drop the card. You know, listen, I'm paying for. Yeah, paying for her toes.

[D]

Do you pay for his too?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, the marriage. He almost got cursed out on day 11. No, I'm sorry.

[C]

One, one, one.

[A]

Yeah. Like, what's wrong?

[D]

So you'll pay for. You'll pay for the dinner, but not the nails, not the mini.

[A]

No, but it's for her co worker. It's different though.

[B]

The co workers crazy.

[A]

It's different. It's a difference. A whole different scenario.

[D]

Has he ever met the co worker? Well, he said he's light skinned with bracelets, so he obviously knows what he looks like. He's met him before.

[B]

I feel like there has to be more context. This nail thing is just the ice for the tipping point. That's why there's way more underneath.

[A]

Gotta pop up at your bro bro. Let her go to the nail salon.

[B]

They definitely go to get drinks together.

[A]

They go eat.

[B]

They do all of that hang out.

[A]

It's a day, it's a date. That's a date.

[B]

They chill at work.

[D]

We do not shame work husbands. Do not shame work husbands.

[A]

I don't, I don't know what that is. My girl can't have no work husband. Are you talking about do not shame notice?

[C]

She's not going to tell you.

[A]

Oh, well, she works remote now. How about that? Come set up the routers and all that in the living room.

[C]

You live in the tunnel under my crib.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. My girl work remotely.

[D]

That conversation before, like work husband and work wife is not always sexual or anything.

[A]

It's not always, but it can get there.

[D]

It can.

[A]

A keep bringing your girl her favorite lunch every day. You know he go out. How you know my girl? How you know how she like her burritos?

[D]

Because she eats the same burrito every day. Y'all can know exactly what I eat for lunch every day because I eat the same thing every single time we're here.

[A]

Yeah, but like you can't be like buying my girl lunch every day. You're not doing that.

[C]

Well, a lot of these young kids actually get their nails painted these days. What if they get matching nails? Then how are you feeling?

[B]

They put their fingers.

[C]

But he's straight.

[D]

That's a little gay.

[C]

He's straight though.

[A]

Yeah, he's straight.

[B]

You think he picked the color for her and.

[C]

Yeah, and he said color.

[D]

If he picked the color and he.

[C]

Said it brings her eyes out.

[B]

This looks good.

[C]

Nah.

[A]

Cause don't do that. Because I picked the color for girls, but I wasn't with them. Like they, they sent like the color chart.

[C]

No, we all, we all have. But I'm saying that's her co worker and she has a boyfriend. I'm not picking that color. That's over the line.

[A]

Yes, that's. He got a pop up at the nail shop.

[D]

I'm not picking the color for you to scratch another nigga back and the flakes being his back. Like, I'm not doing that.

[B]

What the fuck?

[D]

I.

[C]

First of all, a woman asking a man that she's not what color she should get, I think is a little weird to begin with, to be honest.

[A]

No, that means she wanted. If. If she. If y'all never did anything, that means she wants to.

[C]

It's definitely a.

[D]

She wants you to pay for her nails.

[C]

That's.

[A]

Yeah, women want you to pay for everything. That's just where we at now. Like, pay for everything. You ever seen a girl pay rent?

[C]

No.

[A]

No. Okay.

[B]

I think that's why they set up auto pay is just so you don't know where it's coming from.

[A]

Of course.

[B]

It just happens.

[A]

Yeah. It's like, it just. Poof. Yeah, paid.

[C]

But also, I've never seen, like, anyone pay rent.

[A]

No. Particularly a girl, though. Like, you're.

[B]

That.

[C]

You're like. I was at her crib and she's like, oh, I gotta pay rent.

[A]

A girl that you're dating.

[C]

I never saw her physically pay rent or talk about it. I wasn't paying it. No, I'm not saying somebody was paying it.

[A]

Yeah, that's all I'm saying. Somebody.

[C]

But. Well, I've dated women that have jobs.

[A]

Like, like, what that mean? Women have jobs all the time. They don't want to spend.

[C]

But I wasn't, like, concerned of like. Or. You do absolutely nothing. You have a Chanel bag and a beautiful apartment. Like, I've dated women that have gigs where I'm like, she. I'm sure can afford this.

[A]

I've dated girls that have gigs, too, and I know what they make a year. And I know that they can't afford six Chanel bags.

[C]

I mean, trust fund.

[A]

Oh, yeah, trust. There goes that word. Trust.

[B]

I wonder how long they've been together and how long has she been working with this guy? Like, which relationship is longer? That would say a lot spitball in here.

[C]

Because then I think she's in perspective.

[A]

If she knows your co worker more longer than she knows you, that's kind of what. And she's like, I'm going to get my nails done with him.

[B]

Because now think about it, where it would change. Because, like, now I would assume her and the co worker probably have more inside jokes.

[C]

You know, I think it's a very interesting point.

[B]

More layered, like, oh, like. Like before, say, the boyfriend's name is like. It's say, Anonymous. Whatever. Like, oh, remember before Anonymous came around, we used to, like, there's way more to it. Like, yeah, he could play dirty Mac and be, like, the new dude here. Our thing up.

[C]

It's funny because I. I haven't been in that. The only time I've been in situations like that, like, the guy. The other guy was Peter.

[B]

Like, oh, that's good for you.

[C]

I've never been. It's always been, like, the gay bestie. Because I. I might feel away, too, like, if I come to your job all the time. Like, y'all been. She's been here for five years. We've been dating a few months.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[C]

And her co worker of five years. And, like, I'm the new guy now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

A girl you was dating.

[C]

I can't dictate anything here.

[A]

No, A girl you was dating never told you she had a gay bestie. And, like, you met him and you was like, I don't get gay vibes from this dude.

[C]

No, that's never happened. But that would be hilarious.

[A]

That's never happened. No, I've definitely been in that situation. I'm like, yo, I don't know if this dude is gay, but it'd be.

[C]

Gay for you to play the gay bestie. Unless you were caught in, like, the act. Then I could see you trying to do that performative shit to get out of it. But to just go in a situation.

[A]

No.

[C]

Like, knowing you are about to pretend to be the gay best.

[A]

No, no, no, no. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying, like, a girl that you're dating, she keeps telling you about a coworker, and she's like, yo, well, he's gay. And then you finally meet this dude, she doesn't say he's gay in front of him. She just. Y'all have had conversations about this guy before. When you finally meet him, like, oh, this is her gay bestie. But then you meet him and you like, I don't think he's gay. That changes everything. Because now you in the crib pressing your girl like, yo, you sure he's gay? And how do you ever really find out?

[C]

I mean, you see, if he wears a Speedo to children's swimming club, that's something else. But, yeah, that never works in our favor. Like, it can't switch. The other way of, like, chill, babe. She's a lesbian. Never works that way.

[A]

That doesn't work, though.

[C]

There's a lot of. We can't.

[A]

I can't have a. I can't have a lesbian girlfriend if she's a dyke.

[D]

Like, if you could have. If she's like, a stud. Like, your girl wouldn't have a problem with you being friends with Taylor?

[B]

No.

[A]

Who's Taylor?

[C]

She'd probably be scared for my safety.

[A]

Who?

[B]

From New York. The show. The live shows.

[A]

Oh, oh, none of the show.

[C]

We love.

[A]

That's. Yeah. Love Taylor. No, that Taylor would be like, the homie. But, like, if it was like a pretty, like, lipstick. What do they call lipstick? Lesbians. I don't know if that's offensive anymore. Every day something is offensive.

[C]

I learned bonus. And lipstick.

[A]

A femme.

[D]

Just say a femme.

[A]

Okay, so if she was like, a femme. Lesbian femme. My girl wouldn't be comfortable, like, if I. She wouldn't be comfortable with me being, like, besties with a femme lesbian.

[C]

But why? She's a lesbian.

[A]

That don't mean shit.

[B]

Doesn't matter.

[A]

That don't mean nothing to one woman. She fine.

[B]

So you're saying you're literally proving her point. Me?

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Like, I was like, no, you shouldn't trust me.

[A]

Yeah, don't trust me.

[C]

But she doesn't want to sleep with you no matter what. Yeah.

[D]

Like, so what are you worried?

[C]

Like, if she was by, like, maybe I could see the her being uncomfortable with that. But just a attractive lesbian. That's my friend.

[A]

Nah, man. Your girl.

[C]

Yeah, your girl not trust too much insecurity in the world. Why hell a relationship?

[D]

Because if this person is truly, like, truly a lesbian and you don't trust your man around her, like, it's not that you don't trust her. You don't trust your man. So do you think that your man is a creep or a. Yeah, like, he's gonna rapey. Like, what, the woman that doesn't like men?

[A]

Women don't trust women. You know that. Y'all don't trust me.

[C]

Actually, I will say that women are so arrogant that they would think that a woman would change being a lesbian her entire life just to go her man. Yeah, that's how crazy women are delusional.

[D]

Because I know ain't nothing that special about that that she's gonna change her whole sexual orientation for him. Please, please don't humble yours. Please humble yourself.

[A]

No, but I mean, it's possible, though. Don't do that.

[B]

In my day, I did ask. I was the last dude this one chick hooked up with. Next thing I know, three months later, she was married to a chick. I was like, that's.

[C]

I was like, that's awful.

[B]

Awesome.

[D]

No, you literally ruined her outlook on men. And now she'd just much rather Eat wet sopping ass than women again.

[B]

I mean. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Really? Twice.

[C]

Twice. Only once I've had two women. After I've dealt with them, their next relationship was with a woman. Two. Two women. One is. One is now a married. Well, she's bisexual.

[A]

Have I experienced a married lesbian? A woman that got that after you.

[B]

You were the last guy she was with?

[A]

Probably. I would think so. Yeah.

[B]

I will say it wasn't like, on some, like, damn, Julian me up. I'm gonna go to women now. It was something she was very. That she talked to me about. It was very healthy how she. She also didn't owe me an explanation, but she was very nice and, like, candid with the whole thing.

[C]

You know what hurt me the most with both of them. I didn't know either of them were bisexual.

[B]

I'll see. I knew.

[C]

That's what threw me.

[D]

Oh, you fumbled the threesome and then they went.

[C]

No, it wasn't that per se.

[A]

It was like a girlfriend. And the.

[C]

I was. I wasn't. They weren't my girlfriend. I was dealing with both of them.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Just talking. And I guess I would have handled it a little bit better had I known they were bisexual, because that makes sense. If you're bisexual, your next partner could be a girl. But I just thought they were just like some regular straight chicks. And then I go on ig and I'm like, he was by this whole time. It kind of hurt. Or maybe they were never by and now they're bi.

[A]

Do you think you have more in common with a.

[B]

There we go.

[A]

Gay man or a, like, butch lesbian?

[B]

I would say a man, just because at the end of the day, it's still a guy. So I'm gonna go with the man on that one.

[A]

But they like. But they like men. You don't.

[B]

All right, let's bring Peter. Normal ass dude.

[A]

Yeah, but you think you have more in common with Peter or some. A woman that's like a. Like Taylor?

[C]

I think me. I think across the board, me and Taylor have a lot of similarities in how we think. I think me. I think me and Taylor can agree on a lot of shit.

[A]

It would have to be. But what are you saying?

[B]

You saying more in common? You mean, like, physically?

[C]

Or is this also an awful conversation? Not all gay people are the same. There could be a gay guy who has something in common with and one I wouldn't like.

[A]

There's for sure. But I'm just saying, like, if you have like a Taylor, like a. What's. What's the Correct PC phrase for butch.

[D]

A masculine lesbian woman.

[A]

A masculine lesbian woman. Right.

[C]

I, over the years, have. Have tended to always get along across the board with very masculine lesbians.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I have two. That's why I asked the question. Not saying I don't get along with gay men. I have no bunch of gay men. I went to high school with a bunch of gay guys. Like, cool. Like, I love them. But I'm just saying, like, I have more in common with, like.

[C]

Yeah, voted for Obama. Everything.

[A]

Who, me.

[D]

That's what that sounds like with. I mean, I know plenty of gay men. Like, my cousin's gay. Like, yeah, that's what that sounds like.

[C]

All I know is me and all at Palooza. Who, me and young and may hit it off at Palooza. That's all I'm saying. I just tend to have a lot.

[D]

I think it may have. It's not because she's a masculine lesbian. It's because she's young Ma. She's from New York. Y'all act alike. That's why y'all had a lot in common.

[C]

Me and Taylor, I think act alike.

[B]

But also same thing from New York.

[C]

But I feel like if I ran into, like, a masculine lesbian in la, we would probably get along.

[A]

Yeah, I'm telling. I'm saying because I'm. I know. Like, it's. For me, it's true. Like, I have a lot in common with masculine lesbian women.

[D]

So what. What. Other than that, y'all, like, what do y'all have in common? No sneakers.

[A]

Yes, exactly. Like, they into a lot of fashion, music, music, taste, sports, Jadicus. A lot of them into sports. Like the type of movies that they like.

[D]

This is the real thing imitating you. Of course you have stuff in common with them.

[A]

Yeah, whatever you want to say. I'm just telling you that I have. In my. In my experience of my life. This is my. My life, is it. I have more in common that the data that I've collected. A lot of masculine. Masculine lesbian women.

[B]

So you identify as a masculine lesbian.

[A]

No, I see now you just being stupid. No, I do not identify as a masculine lesbian.

[C]

Maybe it's not masculine lesbian. Maybe I just get along with people that still wear fitted hats.

[A]

I tend to just. That's crazy.

[C]

I still see even. No, no, even guys that still wear fitted. Like, that type of guy. I usually get along with, like, the. And all.

[A]

Like, when you know your size of your hat.

[C]

Yeah, all dykes wear fitted. It's a fact.

[A]

Now, Taylor Had a snap back on. Don't do that.

[C]

Yeah, well, she's like a trendy. You know, more on the trendy side.

[A]

Yeah. That's funny, though. Wear fitted hats.

[C]

But then, see, that's why it's unfair, because there's masculine gay men that. That I get along with.

[A]

Same way I don't got nothing in common with them.

[C]

With masculine gay men. Such a liar.

[D]

Homophobic.

[C]

You know, I don't want to be PC. That was actually a homophobic statement.

[A]

I'm lying. I got. I got a lot of comments on masculine gay men. Could play ball, man. We all be like, we play ball together. Going. I'm like, I didn't know this dude was gay. It's a real thing. You know how many dudes I went to high school with are, like, women now? I'm dead.

[C]

Yo, listen, you're not wrong.

[A]

I'm dead serious. Like, it's. Yo, my sister. I swear, my sister sends me once a month. She sends me because my sister's on Facebook. I'm like, what are you doing on Facebook?

[C]

So she keeps up.

[B]

Yeah, she sends me a picture.

[A]

Like, my sister will send me a picture of, like, a woman. And I'm like, I sent him back. Question was like, who is this?

[B]

Let's play ball together.

[C]

She's.

[A]

She's like, she'll send me the name. I'm like, no, that's not. She was like, yeah. And I'm like, what? Like, he's a. Like, he's a. He's a woman now. Ladies are dudes. I was in, like, the choir with singing, with performing around the world.

[C]

Didn't see that one.

[B]

No, it wasn't a To tell.

[A]

No, we always knew they. Like, we always knew that they were gay.

[C]

You were the outsider.

[A]

I was. We always knew that they were gay, but it was like, no, he's a woman now, though. Like, it's a different thing.

[C]

You could, like, no more dope than me.

[A]

You knew he was gay. You know, when you're in high school, you know, the gay kid, like, oh, nice. Gay. But like, you never think, like, yo.

[B]

When we become single him out, like.

[A]

When we get older, he's gonna become a woman. You never think like that. And I'm telling you, she sent once a month for the last four months, she sent me a picture of a guy that I went to school with.

[B]

Are you cool with any of these people?

[A]

We don't speak, like anymore. But if I was to see them, I mean, I probably wouldn't recognize them if I didn't See that picture? But I was still like, yo, what's up? I haven't seen you since we graduated. Because these were, like, we were friends in high school, but as we become men and get older.

[B]

Or women.

[A]

Or women. We don't speak. Years pass. You don't really know this person no more. But we spent four years of our lives in the same school traveling the world together, so. Yeah. Very interesting, though.

[C]

Must have had something in common with. With them, though.

[A]

Who? Me?

[C]

Yeah. Singing.

[A]

Oh, no, we love music. Love. Mozart.

[D]

Rory, is it?

[A]

Yeah. Love music.

[C]

Shout out to Taylor.

[B]

Love. All right.

[A]

Is that it?

[C]

I gotta hit the streets with Taylor one night.

[A]

N. Don't do that.

[C]

No, no. I shouldn't tear down Bleecker street with Taylor.

[D]

Is that where the gays are?

[B]

No, the gays are in Hell's Kitchen.

[C]

Yeah, but Taylor's not looking for gay men. She's looking for straight women.

[B]

What?

[A]

Julie, shut up, man.

[B]

What?

[A]

Stop, though. Stop.

[B]

It's a real.

[A]

I know that because it's a place in. In New York.

[C]

No, we can comfortably say Hell's Kitchen is.

[B]

Hell's Kitchen is very. No, that wasn't.

[A]

Stop.

[B]

Because I know what you're doing. That was a legit thing I'm doing, right?

[A]

Yes, that's what I'm doing.

[D]

That's gay. That'd be a Hell's Kitchen.

[B]

All of them.

[C]

Every. Everybody. Everybody but me. Everybody. Put me and Marlon Craft.

[A]

First of all, the Daredevil lives in Hell's Kitchen. Don't do that. Daredevil's not gay.

[B]

I mean, that suit is very gay.

[A]

Ish. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Like, all right. You didn't help yourself with that.

[B]

Suit.

[A]

Oh, man.

[C]

You know what else is in Hell's Kitchen? Swimming classes with men wearing Speedos.

[B]

Rory tied it back to the first.

[A]

It's crazy that you actually paid for it, though. That's the crazy part. I would have walked out. I'm like, we're not doing this.

[C]

He was a great instructor. I just didn't like his normal attire.

[A]

Well, hopefully we gave this. These two gentlemen some good advice on their relationships. Pop up at the nail salon is all I can say.

[C]

Wasn't Hell's Kitchen your location in your Twitter. Twitter bio for a while?

[A]

Hell's Kitchen eating dessert. That was a bar from. Who said that?

[B]

That's a bar now It's.

[C]

I'm looking at that bar a little different.

[A]

Hell's Kitchen eating dessert.

[B]

What? What was it food or. What were you eating?

[A]

See you. What? That's why you can't let Julian Say anything.

[C]

I think it's saucy.

[D]

Why you put. Why you made it French Santana. It's Saucy Santana.

[A]

Yeah, see, look, I can't speak right now. Saucy Santana.

[C]

I'm just still laughing at wall trying to deny the gays in Hell's Kitchen.

[A]

I'm not trying to deny gays in Hell Kitchen. Hell's Kitchen, they're everywhere in New York City. I don't know how y'all landed on Hell's Kitchen, but whatever y'all did, it's.

[B]

Like a known thing.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's like there at the Gays Are in Hell's Kitchen. Did you like when you were growing.

[C]

Up, it was the Village. I'm saying now it's Hell's Kitchen. It's just like a fact.

[A]

Yeah, listen, man, I'm.

[C]

I live there. I'm telling you.

[A]

No, listen, I. I'm not arguing. Y. Y'all did y research shout out to y'all.

[D]

I woke up a lesbian bar with me.

[C]

Of course.

[A]

Why?

[C]

I would go to a gay bar, too.

[B]

I've gone to a gay bar.

[A]

I would go.

[D]

No, you don't go anywhere.

[A]

I would go to a lesbian bar. Yeah. Oh.

[D]

After three years of me asking you to go places with me, That's. I just. That was the one.

[A]

You asked me to go to the movies, and then you asked me to.

[D]

Go Ma, I asked you to go to dinner with me for a year straight. You ignored me every. Remember, he used to ignore me when I asked him to go to dinner with me.

[B]

She's not right.

[C]

That's cause he was in Hell's Kitchen eating dessert.

[A]

You never. You didn't ask me to go to dinner for a year straight. Don't do that.

[C]

He had already finished his entree, and.

[A]

When you wanted to take your sisters out to eat, I set up the reservation for you. See, so that's kind of like me going with you. I set it up for you, right?

[B]

You said, how many for the res? You said one.

[C]

No reservation for one. That's not you is crazy.

[A]

How many will be joining you? No, that's not for me. It's for somebody else.

[B]

I went to a. It wasn't a gay spot, but it ended up being a gay night. I was there with Alex Media, our dear friend from wtf.

[D]

Are you outing him?

[B]

We were pretty. Well, we were drunk. We were like, it's a spot we frequent. We're like, let's go to Blank. And we went down there and we. It took us a while. We were like. We're one drink in two drinks. We're like, there's a lot of dudes in here. And then we're looking at like, the. The attire and like, how the dancing was happening. We're like, this is. What kind of night is this? Yeah, it was that kind of night.

[C]

That exact same thing happened to me and Cam after whenever Jay Z did. What's the festival at City Field in the summer?

[B]

It's festival at City Field?

[C]

No, they just do that. It's like Meadow something.

[B]

Meadowlands or something Jersey.

[C]

Either way, after Jay performed, we went to a spot like in les that we always go to, like one of these basement bar things. Things. And it took us. Maybe that's how progressive we are. It took us like 20 minutes to realize we were in a completely gay event and there wasn't one woman. And I had the exact same quote that I said to Cam that Julian just said. It's a lot of dudes in here. Right?

[B]

Yeah, we did that. We like, acknowledged it on like, two separate times. Dj, I don't remember, but it was like, it was a regular billing night. Like, it was like, I might have even known that. It was just like, there was nothing about it. It was a tell until we were in it and we were like this. Something's off. And like, all the girls were very few. Was just in like a circle of like gay men. And they were like. It was very. It like it was Gay men are.

[C]

Aggressive, but some gay bars have a lot of women.

[B]

True. That's the thing we said. Okay, we identified. This is a gay night. Let's ride this out. We'll be the two straight men. Maybe they'll start coming in. And it did not such a. Didn't happen.

[C]

So stupid straight thought that we have like, oh, brother, we all want to us now.

[A]

Yeah, we're the straight ones. They have to want to us. They know nobody else wants to.

[D]

Losers. I went to Boxers. I didn't know it was a gay bar. I was very. I had to be like 22 boxers. It was the. We had just graduated from when I went to bartending school or academy. My class graduated and we like went out to celebrate and we went this place called Boxers. And like, I'm just so stupid and naive. I was there for like an hour until I realized, like, oh, all of these men are shirtless and boxers. I'm in a gay bar.

[B]

Like, wait, they were sure it took you that long?

[D]

I just. I was young and just like, stupid and just like having fun. I'm just like, oh, we're having fun. Like, I was.

[B]

That's crazy. You turn. You, like, press the top of your drink of the dude's sweaty ass chest.

[A]

Like, topless in boxes that you didn't know was.

[D]

I wasn't thinking. Like, I just kid.

[C]

And I accidentally did that over the summer because a lot of bars change in Hell's Kitchen, and there was a new spot that had been there before that we liked. So we just walked in. They hadn't even finished put the signs up or anything. We walk in, and I'm not even exaggerating. I think the menu said, like, Pete's Meat or something. And we were like, oh, okay.

[D]

You order one.

[B]

You asked for the double meat.

[C]

I think we know where we're at.

[D]

Pizza Me is crazy because it wasn't.

[C]

A gay bar before that. It was a bar we liked. But in. Everything in Hell's Kitchen is turning into gay bars, which is fine. We frequent them. We didn't leave, but we just, like.

[A]

Oh, with the peach meat.

[B]

Peach Meat Deluxe.

[C]

That wasn't. The real name was something like that.

[A]

Yo, what if, like, straight.

[C]

What if that's just, like, a good burger? What if that's just. What if Pete's just graded making brisket?

[B]

What if straight bars just name their, like, menu items? Just derogatory, like, misogyny, hedonistic things like that?

[D]

I'm sure.

[C]

I'm sure. I'm sure in the Jersey Shore, you can find one.

[A]

Oh, my God, man. Life is crazy.

[D]

I'm sure Tati's tits is a drink for certain.

[C]

Yeah, if you go to, like, Wet Willies in Miami and read what those slushies are called, it's, like, kind of rapey. It's like, she'll never remember. Yeah, I don't think I want to order that, man. Like, what? We should change. I understand we're tearing down statues of slave owners. Maybe we should change the names here, too. This is crazy.

[A]

She has no idea.

[C]

What the.

[B]

Can I get two shots of the charges? Won't stick.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It'S her word versus yours.

[C]

Can I get. Hey, my dad's the judge.

[A]

Yo. Oh, my God. That is terrible to laugh at awful people. That is terrible to laugh at. Well, this has been another episode. Have a safe weekend. Have fun. And also, don't forget again. Support Booker Clarence in theaters January 12th. Shout out to James Samuel. We'll talk to y'all in a couple days. I'm that nigga. I'm that ka.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Aggressive. He's that K. I'm that nigga.

[C]

He's the k. I can't be a conjinger.

[A]

You can be a conjinger. We'll talk to y'all in a couple days. Peace.