Episode 294 | You Know I Had To Do It To Em

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL
Episode: 294 | "You Know I Had To Do It To Em"
Release Date: August 16, 2024

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1. Tour Announcements and Excitement for the Midwest

00:00 - 02:15

Rory and Mal kick off the episode by sharing their enthusiasm for their upcoming Midwest tour dates. Rory announces performances in Detroit on August 22nd and Chicago on August 25th, expressing his excitement about visiting these vibrant cities.

• Rory: "Detroit, we will see you August 22nd. Chicago, we will see you August 25th. I cannot wait to get to the Midwest. It's always a fun trip too, between Detroit and Chicago." ([00:00])

Mal echoes Rory's excitement, reinforcing the appeal of these cities.

• Mal: "Two of my favorite cities for sure." ([00:13])

They encourage listeners to purchase tickets via their website, newroarimal.com, highlighting their anticipation for delivering a memorable show.

2. Anecdote: Helping an Elderly Woman and Symbolic Adoptions

02:13 - 13:43

Rory narrates a personal story from Monday night where he assists an elderly woman struggling to enter her building in Manhattan. Despite language barriers and security indifference, Rory helps her reach her apartment, only to discover she has symbolically adopted five individuals online to prevent her son from committing suicide.

• Rory: "I I was like, I'm gonna go in." ([09:35])

As Rory delves deeper, he reflects on the complexities of symbolic adoptions and the emotional weight they carry, leading to discussions about responsibility and community support.

• Rory: "So, she was a really sweet woman... making sure blood can even Flow? Yeah, from her arteries and her legs to her heart." ([06:11])

The story evolves into a broader conversation about community care, systemic failures, and personal responsibility, with Mal and Julian contributing their perspectives on the situation.

3. Discussion on Michael Rubin's Comments on Black on Black Hate

13:43 - 27:40

The conversation shifts to Michael Rubin's appearance on Breakfast Club Fanatics, where he addressed black on black hate within the Black community. Rory and Mal express their mixed reactions to Rubin, a white man, speaking on issues predominantly affecting the Black community.

• Mal: "Michael Rubin is doing his press run... he doesn't like black people tearing each other down." ([14:29])

Rory critiques the appropriateness of Rubin's commentary, questioning whether someone outside the Black community should voice opinions on internal cultural issues. The discussion delves into the nuances of representation, cultural critique, and the responsibilities of influential figures.

• Rory: "It's a little hypocritical when you're from that community." ([18:14])

Julian adds that negative dynamics like hate within any community are universal issues, not exclusive to the Black community, emphasizing the importance of addressing systemic problems over interpersonal conflicts.

• Julian: "That's just people. It's just people." ([20:36])

The trio debates the implications of Rubin's statements, the backlash he faced, and the broader societal conversations about internal community struggles versus external perceptions.

4. Social Media's Impact on Hip Hop and Lack of Originality

27:40 - 43:50

Rory and Mal transition to analyzing how social media has homogenized hip hop, leading to a decline in originality. They reference Tyler's interview, where he criticizes the current generation of artists for lacking the distinct sounds of predecessors like Jay-Z and Pharrell.

• Rory: "Social media made it easier for people to be seen, people to be heard... Everybody's influenced by what they're seeing." ([34:43])

The conversation highlights how algorithms and viral trends push artists to emulate what's currently popular, stifling creative innovation. They lament the replication of successful formulas instead of fostering unique artistic expressions.

• Mal: "Social media is great, but at the same time, it's kind of like follow the leader." ([34:39])

They compare the past diversity in hip hop sounds to today's uniformity, attributing the shift to the rapid dissemination of trends via digital platforms.

5. Tyler's Interview and Critique of Modern Hip Hop Culture

43:50 - 77:23

The discussion centers around Tyler's perspective on the lack of originality in today's hip hop, emphasizing the importance of genuine influence over mere imitation. They critique artists like Ian, whom they perceive as pastiches of established stars such as Future and Gucci Mane.

• Rory: "Tyler is dressed like that right now on the couch... it's a product of people being able to see what everybody's doing immediately." ([40:22])

They contrast Tyler's authentic innovation with newer artists who, in their view, prioritize superficial fame over artistic growth. The conversation touches on the cultural responsibilities of artists to push genres forward rather than replicate existing sounds.

• Rory: "He didn't just sound like anything else when he was a kid... he was clearly influenced by them." ([42:49])

This segment underscores their desire for a resurgence of originality in hip hop, advocating for artists who draw inspiration responsibly and contribute meaningfully to the genre's evolution.

6. Casual Banter, Relationship Advice, and Social Media Observations

77:23 - 95:54

Transitioning from serious discussions, the hosts engage in lighthearted conversations about relationship dynamics, social media behaviors, and personal anecdotes. They offer unsolicited relationship advice to a voicemail caller seeking guidance on balancing interest levels in dating.

• Mal: "First of all, calm your loins... don't be so horny." ([85:00])

The dialogue includes humorous takes on Instagram filters, the authenticity of online personas, and the perils of over-sharing personal moments. They debate the impacts of augmented reality on self-image and interpersonal relationships.

• Rory: "I think we've given no context... she asked you about your glasses prescription and then ended it with seeing someone across the room." ([96:40])

Additionally, they discuss the challenges of maintaining genuine connections in an era dominated by digital interactions, highlighting the disparity between online facades and real-life personalities.

7. Closing Remarks and Show Promotions

95:54 - 110:41

In the final segment, Rory and Mal reiterate their tour dates, expanding to locations like London, Toronto, Atlanta, and New York. They encourage listeners to attend their shows and promote their website for ticket purchases.

• Rory: "Tickets available [e-mail]... Hope to see you guys there. Have a safe weekend. Be blessed. Be careful." ([107:32])

The episode concludes with playful exchanges, signatures, and reminders of their tour schedule, maintaining the show's energetic and engaging tone.

• Julian: "Yo, that's a belt." ([110:38])

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Rory: "I'm really excited. I think it's gonna be a great show." ([00:15])
• Mal: "It's gonna be a beautiful show." ([00:28])
• Rory: "It's a little hypocritical when you're from that community." ([18:14])
• Julian: "That's just people. It's just people." ([20:36])
• Rory: "Social media made it easier for people to be seen, people to be heard." ([34:43])
• Mal: "Social media is great, but at the same time, it's kind of like follow the leader." ([34:39])
• Rory: "Tyler is dressed like that right now on the couch... it's a product of people being able to see what everybody's doing immediately." ([40:22])
• Mal: "First of all, calm your loins... don't be so horny." ([85:00])
• Rory: "Tickets available [e-mail]... Hope to see you guys there. Have a safe weekend. Be blessed. Be careful." ([107:32])

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Conclusion

Episode 294 of New Rory & MAL navigates through a blend of personal storytelling, cultural critiques, and casual banter. The hosts engage in thought-provoking discussions about community responsibility, the authenticity of artistic influence in hip hop, and the pervasive impact of social media on creative expression. Interspersed with humor and relatable anecdotes, the episode offers listeners a comprehensive look into the hosts' perspectives while promoting their upcoming tours.

Transcript

[Rory]

Detroit, we will see you August 22nd. Chicago, we will see you August 25th. I cannot wait to get to the Midwest. It's always a fun trip too, between Detroit and Chicago. Lot of sights on that way.

[Mal]

Two of my favorite cities for sure.

[Rory]

I'm really excited. So we will see you very, very soon. Tickets available now newroarianmall.com I'm just. I think it's gonna be a great show.

[Mal]

It's gonna be a beautiful show.

[Rory]

I think I might. I might perform my hit single bush.

[Mal]

Hit single.

[Damaris]

No worrying now.

[Rory]

Calm before the storm right here. What'd I say? A storm never happened, by the way. Oh, that's an awfully hot coffee pot. I said do get spots more said probably not. He had another plot. Are we gonna get flagged for our own content?

[Julian]

Damn, that's crazy.

[Rory]

Because his only way the show was to clean to ovo. I sat in disbelief at what they didn't know. I also feel like Paul Rose.

[Julian]

Girl, come get me.

[Rory]

Did he ever hugs his mag? I'm with a girl. I didn't need money to bag.

[Julian]

That's hard.

[Rory]

But after all the red pills he popped, he only wants to give Donald props, make the west coast his ops. Sorry if this is uncomfortable for you, like brother, but he doesn't know hip hop.

[Peach]

Ah, my favorite bar.

[Julian]

That was the most bar.

[Rory]

Cuz it's just so bizarre how rap is not on his radar.

[Mal]

Damn.

[Rory]

My brilliance goes bar for bar.

[Julian]

Two podcasts.

[Peach]

I didn't even catch it.

[Mal]

I'm not the star.

[Rory]

The brilliant idiot bar and more can make a counterclaim. Goes over people's heads. But my worth is a million dollars.

[Julian]

In this game three pods.

[Mal]

I think we should change the name.

[Rory]

Because I'm the face of this camp. I know it's hard to swallow that drink. Champ.

[Julian]

£5.

[Rory]

I think you're a champion.

[Mal]

Did this.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Damn. Well, you gotta say what y'all doing right now? It's been 24 hours, Ma. No response.

[Mal]

Tickets available [e-mail] we will be in Detroit August 22nd and then Chicago August 25th.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

At the city winery Midwest.

[Rory]

I'm excited. I hope they don't take offense to that because I know Eminem, rightfully so, is like their God. But that was an ode to white rappers.

[Mal]

Can't take offense to that.

[Rory]

I mean, I even wore the ring that logic gave me on camera just to like really channel all the white rappers. Yeah, like I had the spirit of logic with me through that whole thing. I was just showing Camaraderie I'm also showing Logic's aura.

[Mal]

Yeah, I like, felt him, felt he was there.

[Rory]

It's what like Michael Rubin was talking about. But we'll get to that.

[Mal]

Yeah, we'll get to that later.

[Rory]

His community.

[Mal]

Yeah, your community.

[Rory]

Sure. You know what? You know what? Yes. No, no, no, no, it's cool. It's been a long week. I. I can't believe it's only Thursday. Yeah, it feels like our last episode we recorded last week. It's just been a very long week for me.

[Mal]

It's always a long week.

[Rory]

Very, very tired.

[Mal]

All the weeks along.

[Rory]

Outside of recording that, what was your week like?

[Mal]

I feel like I saw you every day this week, almost.

[Rory]

Yeah, that is true.

[Mal]

Pretty much. Except Tuesday. Yeah, I thought. Didn't we see each other Tuesday?

[Rory]

No, I was just texting you bars of just how.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah. So your presence was still. Yeah. In my.

[Rory]

You could never escape.

[Mal]

I couldn't say. All week it's just been rap, rap, Rory.

[Rory]

I mean, I was a little nervous.

[Mal]

Oh, we did. That was what we did.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, we got.

[Mal]

Then they.

[Rory]

They flagged us because we were bullying and harassing somebody.

[Mal]

Hate speech because we joked about showing somebody's paperwork or their papers.

[Rory]

IG is very interesting. I had a wild Monday night. I've actually been waiting to tell you guys this story.

[Mal]

You brought this up yesterday.

[Rory]

Well, I called Damaris that night because it was that crazy, but I was like, I'm wait to tell everyone. I want to get everyone's, like, real reaction.

[Mal]

So what happened?

[Rory]

So I left here on Monday. Right. I just want to make sure I can find the exact word because I sent it to Tamara, so I didn't.

[Mal]

Forget the exact word.

[Rory]

Oh, we're going to get to that.

[Mal]

Somebody call you a. Symbolically is the word.

[Rory]

Thank you. So I leave here. I go meet Sean Dickerson, grab a little app and a drink. I head back to the building in Manhattan. You know, I'm split time between Jersey and the city. So I'm walking through midtown. I get to the building and there is an Uber driver really struggling to help this elderly woman out of her car. He can barely speak English. She's trying to get into the building. Security doesn't seem to be helping. So I grab her like, yeah, I got you. Which. Which floor are you going to? What happened? She's like, oh, I fell at Bowery Ballroom. My knees messed up. I was like, do you want to go to the hospital? She's like, no, no, let me Just get up to my apartment. I'll take my blood pressure. Thankfully, another woman come who is an emt. So she helps me. We get up to her apartment. She's got mind of Mamba sitting right in the kitchen. I'm like, oh, she's a Kobe fan. This woman's great. First thing I see is a Kobe book. I'm like, all right, all right. This is weird. So far. This is not what I expected. Get in it. I mean, you know.

[Mal]

Okay. She was an elderly woman.

[Rory]

Yeah. I don't want to be a fat. Like, 65.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

She's like a year away from.

[Mal]

She's a senior.

[Rory]

Senior citizen.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So she has a bunch of pills, like, everywhere, but, like, prescriptions. Not like she has some drug problem.

[Julian]

Yeah, drug problem.

[Rory]

So the. Oh, she has a legal drug problem, then.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Okay.

[Rory]

She has a big pharma drug.

[Mal]

She's paying. Big pharma.

[Rory]

She's an American.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

So the EMT is like, where's your blood pressure thing? Because she actually has, like, the thing that goes around your arm. So she does that. And don't quote these numbers because, again, this is Monday. She's like, oh, yeah, it's around 160. And I was like, well, what's normal? It's like 120. She's, like, close to having possibly a heart attack. So she pulls her pant legs up because the EMT wants to see whatever injury happened. And she's like, all right, you're both. Your legs, feet, toes. Everything is so swollen. This has nothing to do with you falling down some steps. Like, blood is trying to flow, and it's not going to your heart.

[Julian]

Oh, no.

[Rory]

So she says, well, my insurance doesn't really cover the ambulance shit. Last time I did that, they overcharged me, then threw me out in the street. Didn't drive me home. My family doesn't live in New York. So I was like, all right. This building isn't some, like, gentrified building. People have lived there since the 70s. It's a community. And if my girl and baby needed help, I would hope the community would do the same thing.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So I was like, all right, my car's right here. Hospital's a few blocks up 10th. It's cool. I'll take you. So we get her down there. Security again, doesn't help get her in the car, and she's starting to get a little frantic, so I'm trying to, like, calm her down.

[Mal]

Whose car?

[Julian]

Your car?

[Rory]

My car.

[Julian]

Okay.

[Rory]

So, you know, I'm just asking questions. Trying to get her mind off her legs about to explode.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So I was like, oh, there's a lot of. A lot of pictures, like, in your. Your house. Like, I know you said your family isn't in New York anymore, but, you know, do you have kids? And she's like, no. You know, I wasn't blessed to be able to bear children. I was like, oh, shouldn't ask that question. But I did symbolically adopt five kids.

[Mal]

What does that mean?

[Rory]

So I'm like, okay, was it like.

[Julian]

When you give a nickel to a kid in Africa and then you, like, own them?

[Rory]

So, again, I'm not trying to be judgmental, and she's going through a lot at the moment, so I didn't want to, like, hit her with a bunch of questions, but after one more red light, I was like, so what exactly does symbolically mean as far as adopting goes? She goes, well, I'll start with my oldest. We met online, and he was about to kill himself, and the only way he wouldn't kill himself is if I called him Mommy. I'm immediately regretting taking this woman to the hospital.

[Peach]

You mean if he called her Mommy?

[Rory]

Yes, if. If he could call her Mommy.

[Mal]

I won't kill myself if I can call you Mommy.

[Julian]

I'm imagining this eventually became an extortion thing, and he was getting money for her.

[Mal]

This had a weirdo.

[Julian]

So I'm thinking, like, was she paying him?

[Rory]

So I'm thinking, okay, maybe now in, like, certain group homes or orphanages or whatever, like, they have access to, like, computers and, like, you know, they have a library card or something where they're just online.

[Mal]

Let me stop you right there. Have you ever seen this lady before in the building?

[Rory]

No.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

It's a big building.

[Mal]

No, no, I know, I know. Building it is. That's what I'm saying. But you've never. You never saw it before?

[Rory]

No. Nor the emt.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

Nor when I asked around.

[Mal]

Did anybody know that lady?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

Very sweet lady, by the way. The whole time, amazing. We're having good combo, and then we get on 10.

[Julian]

She's got the mama mentality. I'm on board.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

No, then symbolically, five adopted. So she's talking about, let's call him David, who was ready to kill himself and just wanted somebody to call mommy, and he wouldn't do it. So she took the liberty of saying, okay, I will be your mommy. I will adopt you. And again, I'm giving more of the benefit of the doubt. Like, oh, like, I don't know. Did you go to whatever social services place you could do and, like, try to help this kid. Yeah, I didn't even know, like, that was really a thing that they allowed. And she said, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's. He's 65. I'm 68. I just remembered her exact age just now.

[Mal]

She adopted somebody that's three years younger than her, symbolically.

[Rory]

Then we pull up to Mount Sinai.

[Mal]

Okay. All right. Now you're finally at the hospital.

[Rory]

I've been told she might have a heart attack, but I have so many questions.

[Mal]

Yeah, all right, now you. Now you have mouse on that.

[Rory]

So I run into the ER and I'm like, hey, can I get, like, a wheelchair? And.

[Mal]

You get this wheelchair for this crazy lady.

[Julian]

One back. The last thing you guys said before you got into the hospital was you discovering that the three.

[Rory]

It was like a scene out of.

[Julian]

It was like a movie.

[Rory]

When I pulled up, she said, oh, no, no, he's 65. I'm 68.

[Julian]

No, let's get some help. That's what I.

[Rory]

My only response to that was to hit the hazards. Like, all right, I'm gonna go in.

[Julian]

Got it from here. Nurse.

[Rory]

So me and a nurse, whatever male person was there to help me, we get her in the wheelchair, push her in. I had already grabbed, like, her insurance cards and everything, so I'm like, I don't know this woman, but, like, here's the stuff. Whatever.

[Julian]

Gotta call her mommy.

[Rory]

Meanwhile, you know, Upper west side Mount Sinai at that hour was Fentanyl Haven. It was just crackheads running amok in there.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So I have. I have symbolic lady over here, a crackhead that's trying to get discharged, screaming in my ear while I'm trying to give insurance cars.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Mind you, the. The woman goes, you can leave. You've been discharged. And he goes, oh, okay. And then sits back down. He wanted to leave so bad.

[Mal]

He didn't have nowhere to go.

[Julian]

This is how I picture Rory.

[Rory]

And, you know. You know when like, a crackhead looks at you with a crazy look and, you know, it could go into a bad place, you'd be like, yo, I. I understand, man.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm.

[Rory]

I'm with you.

[Mal]

Yeah, they're.

[Rory]

They're unreasonable, right? So we get to the other side of, like, the door to get into, like, where the rooms are, and the nurse is like, okay, we just took her blood pressure. Thank God you brought her here, because, yeah, this could. We have to do CAT scans, MRIs. We have to make sure blood can even Flow? Yeah, from her arteries and her legs to her heart. So thank God you brought her. It's probably going to be a few hours. Take her number. I was like, yeah, I'll pick her up in the morning. Not out of the kindness of my heart. I just need to find out about these other four kids.

[Mal]

Now I'm invested. Now I want to know how you symbolically adopted somebody that's three years younger than you. Yeah, I get it now.

[Rory]

So this was Monday. She gets back to the building 6am I have to take Amara to daycare at 7. I dropped some food off to her. She was knocked. And then we've been texting throughout the week. I'm now being referred to as Saint Rory. So I. I think I have a shot at maybe being the sixth.

[Mal]

She definitely adopted your ass.

[Julian]

The other ones are on the whole nursing staff.

[Mal]

She told, yeah, my son dropped me off. Yo, only you.

[Rory]

I may have been adopted without consent.

[Julian]

Did you get the story on any of the other kids or. No. I mean, no.

[Rory]

We pulled up and I brought her in because I thought she was gonna have a heart attack.

[Mal]

They're not kids.

[Julian]

Yeah, I'm saying her peers, brother.

[Rory]

Her man's in them. Y. Yeah, but let's call him Dave. The information I did get outside of the suicidal part was he's a genius designer, an amazing writer, and he lives in Connecticut, so, I mean, maybe I just go find my other symbolic sibling.

[Mal]

Is that the dude Tremaine Emory from Denim Tears you talking about? I sound like who you describing. So she's still in the hospital?

[Rory]

No, she's back.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

She's back now.

[Mal]

Everything's good.

[Rory]

She's doing okay? Yes.

[Mal]

Okay. They.

[Rory]

They got the blood flowing.

[Mal]

Well, keep us up to date with Large Marge, you know, let us know. This had large margin.

[Rory]

She was a really sweet woman.

[Mal]

Yeah, so it was large.

[Rory]

And her career, because that building is, like, very artist based. Her career did check out for what she does, and what she does is pretty crazy as far as what her job is in Hollywood.

[Julian]

Well, Rory, it was really nice that you were able to help uplift a member of the white community. It's a shame that we can't do the same in our community mall.

[Rory]

All right, that's.

[Julian]

That's great.

[Mal]

I don't know if coming from you, that's like.

[Julian]

Well, I didn't know. I didn't know we were bad at it until Michael Rubin put me on.

[Rory]

Game, because the comments are going to ask, are you closer to Michael Rubin or closer to Mole?

[Julian]

I don't like the comments thing.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like, it's a spectrum. It's like, where you at? Where. Where do you fall in the anger level of black on black hate? Where do you fall?

[Julian]

What do you think about this mall?

[Mal]

Well, Michael Rubin was on. On Breakfast Club Fanatics. Fanatics fest is in, I think, in New York this week.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

At the Javits Center. So Michael Rubin is doing his. His press run and he. He spoke about black on black hate in the black culture and says that he doesn't like it. You know, he doesn't understand it. He wants. He wished that, you know, people would uplift each other. He does what he can to help people out any way that he can. So he just wished that everybody kind of had that mentality. And he hates to see black people tear down each other. And, you know, of course, the Internet, anytime you have somebody that's not from black culture speak about or to black culture, the Internet is gonna find a way to eng and speak and, you know, express their feelings and opinions. And, you know, you got the mind your business clan that's out there on the Internet. You know, let black folks talk about black business on the Internet. But the, you know, the thing that I sit back and laugh at is nobody, you know, had a problem when white people were supporting the Black Lives Matter movement. When white people, you know, boarded up their stores and said Black Lives Matter and hung flags and did all of that and supported the Black Lives Matter movement, that was okay. But when somebody speaks to black people tearing down each other and how they don't like it and wish that black, black that wasn't a part of black culture, then you have some that are online that are upset and says that Michael Rubin needs to mind his business and, you know, he needs to stick to, you know, white business and white culture and, you know, all of that shit is just stupid because regardless of if Michael Rubin said it or if anybody said it, it's a real thing. Black on black hate, black on black crime, black on black whatever, tearing each other down. It is a problem in our community, and it has been a problem. It just so happens to have a white successful man speaking about it. He has, you know, black business partners, he has black friends. He has people that he's, you know, affiliated with and that he works with that are from the black culture. So if he feels like, damn, I hate to see that. In particular, he was speaking to how people online tear down meek and say, you know, bad, negative things about him, things like that. He's obviously, you Know, Meek is somebody he's. He's friends with, he's close with. So he was speaking directly to that and seeing that online and was like, it, you know, it just. It's unfortunate to see that of people tearing down Meek. When he's a good person, he's trying to do things in the community, you know, with the whole prison reform movement and things like that. Um, so he. He felt the need to speak to it, and I didn't think it was wrong. Now I wish he, you know, didn't. I wish, you know, hate people hating on each other and tanning each other down, period is something that, you know, you hate to see. I wish he didn't make it specific to just black. But I understood what he was saying in terms of speaking directly to Meek and how, you know, the Internet and people have tried to tear Meek down and defamate his character and say that he's gay and things like that. Michael Room said, it's not a gay bone in his body. I don't know how Micha Ruben knows that.

[Julian]

I don't know if you gave them.

[Mal]

All, but I don't know if he gave him a CAT scan and, you know, whatever.

[Rory]

But I think it was an interesting example because I don't think a majority of the people were tearing down Meek on Twitter. Let's call it what it is. Twitter not like really in the world. I. I don't think they were doing that because Meek was black. I don't agree with calling me gay just off some fake puffy paperwork, but people were just tearing down someone that was. Happened to be in some paperwork at the moment. If Meek would have been white, I think that same. Same thing would have happened now. I think respectful dialogue can happen.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

In situations like this. Even with a possible point wrong messenger situation. I just think it's a little hypocritical because he comes from a community that cannot be critiqued.

[Mal]

Okay. Cannot be.

[Rory]

Or. And now what's so ironic about this entire thing of Michael Ruben probably saying, what do you mean? I was. I was saying something that I've observed. I was just critiquing a culture. I've been around. I have friends like this. Okay, but me saying you're from a community that can't be critiqued would be called anti Semitic. And you would look at me from the people in that community as such, for bringing that up, making an observation that I think is 100 true in my 34 years on this earth. That community can never be critiqued or it's Anti Semitic.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So it's a little hypocritical when you're from that community. And I've never ever heard you speak about that community and the flaws you guys have to then go on the Breakfast Club and critique someone else.

[Mal]

So you don't agree with it because of the community he's from, that he shouldn't be speaking on black. On black.

[Rory]

And I'm not saying he represents the entire Jewish community, but let's not pretend Michael Rubin is not a staple within current. I do want to say media, because he is everywhere. He's a name that we all know. He's not just some behind the scenes owner that we've never even heard of. He's very much forward facing. So when you are that, whether you like it or not, you are somewhat of a representation of your community, whether right or wrong. So to go and critique and to throw a stone when you live in the clearest glass house of all time is a little weird to me. I'm not here to. To discredit anything that he said per se because it's not my place to do because I'm not part of the black community. That would be for you guys to say if he's right or wrong in.

[Mal]

That, oh, he's 100. Right.

[Rory]

But just don't.

[Mal]

But I think people. It's just because it's the messenger, not the message that people are.

[Julian]

Yeah, but to Rory's point, I'm just to agree and build on what Rory's saying. My thing is like, that's not mutually exclusive to black people. Every community has beef and hate within it. Like, that's not. Black people are the only group tearing each other down. No, Asians do the same thing.

[Mal]

No, he didn't say they would. They were the only group. He just said he hates to see that.

[Julian]

Yeah, okay, but like, don't make it a black. Like, I don't like.

[Mal]

That's what I like.

[Julian]

You're making a black problem when it's a human problem. Like, look at our political system. Trump is the biggest hater of all time. He's shitting on and Biden. I'm not just citing one thing, but like our entire political system is built on tearing down the credibility of these are two very established white men. Like, that's just a human thing. That's not a black culture thing. That's just people.

[Mal]

I don't think he was saying it was just a black culture thing. I think he was.

[Julian]

Then why talk about it only through the guise of being of the black community. That's my problem. Look, as people that are. But within my friends and the people that I'm close with, I saw it happen with me. Like, make use Meek as an example of a friend that it's happened to. Don't make it like, okay, well, Meek's black. The black people were tearing him down. Therefore, the black people are saying bad things about my black friends. It's just people. Like, it's just people. No one.

[Mal]

That was the one thing in it that I. You know, it made it almost seem just like people make fun of people. A black issue. It's. It's an issue in every community, every culture. Like, every culture, every community has hate. Every culture, every community tears each other down.

[Rory]

And let's get a different example, too. Here's a social media example of people calling me gay on Twitter.

[Julian]

This is the shit that pisses me off. And let's not act like if the black people treated each other better than things would be different. No, it's a system that's been built on continuously, generation over generation, oppressing black people. If all black people came together and there was one unified gang and everybody repped the same colors, that wouldn't change the system. Black people becoming cool with each other wouldn't change their value in the system of the hierarchy of the capitalist society that this country is built on. That foundation wouldn't change at all. So it just. It just. It like, takes the onus off of the system and puts it on the community that the system has never served. Maybe if the black people in the ghetto got their together, they would be where we are. No, you built the system so they could never get where you are. Don't make it their problem because they don't treat each other with more respect.

[Mal]

That's the.

[Julian]

It's like a cop out.

[Mal]

I hate that that was the one thing in it, because I don't. You know, it's. It's easy in 2024 for people to kind of get caught up in this. You know, a lot of people walk around with a victim mentality, and I try not to be one of those people. Have I experienced shit growing up in New York City in the hood? Because of my culture? Absolutely. But I don't hold that and carry that every day and get offended easily by the first thing I hear from somebody that's not from my culture. I try to listen to what they're saying before I react. So I understood what Michael Rubin was saying. I just. Again, he made it almost like it's just or particular to black culture and black community. When in fact he was trying to speak to a particular friend of his who had probably had conversations with him and told him. Because then he even talked about the lawyer on Meek's case being a black. I mean, the judge being a black judge and was trying to keep Meek in prison and doing all kind of things. That was fucked up.

[Rory]

So rightfully so. I agree that that judge did a lot of weird shit to Meek. Wasn't there at one point, like a feature request? Like weird. I don't know if that was because that judge was black. I think that judge was just a shitty, weird fucking judge. I don't think that was a black person tearing down another black person. I think that was a fucking weird judge. I think it's in an awful system because before Meek even got to that judge, he was placed in a system as a kid.

[Mal]

Yeah, that was.

[Rory]

That was already set up way before any of this has happened.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So I think two things.

[Rory]

How Meek even got to this black judge to tear him down was based off a system prior to that that was not black people tearing down other black people.

[Mal]

I think. I think both can be true. I think the system, obviously we know is flawed and fucked up. But I also think that people in the system are flawed and fucked up, for sure. That judge in particular was definitely a flawed and fucked up judge. For what? You know, that whole Meek case and what was going on with that. Obviously the judge was removed from the case and he got a whole new judge. And all of that is behind him now. He's one of the faces of prison reform and things like that. So I do understand some of the backlash online I'm seeing towards Michael Rubin about his statements. He posted a response. He said, I got a phone call from one of the people I have the most respect for in the world. They told me why they appreciate my attention. It's not my place to speak on black culture. I get it and really appreciate the input. My intention was to say how important it is.

[Rory]

I don't care.

[Mal]

My intention was to say how important it is that we need to uplift each other, stop hate on each other and push each other to win. And always root for each other's success. My bad. Much love and appreciate the feedback.

[Rory]

I don't know this to be a fact whatsoever. I assume that call came from hov.

[Julian]

Most likely.

[Rory]

That's just my guess. No information behind it. And what makes that even weirder to me, and I know Michael Rubin does not speak for the entire Jewish Community. When HOV rapped on OJ do you know why Jewish people own all the property in America? This is how they did it. The Jewish community lost their fucking minds and called him an anti Semitic piece of shit. Did think pieces. He was on that, that huge Jewish website. It was a whole thing. And cool. You could go through the history of that. Used to be the reason why Jews were prosecuted because of propaganda, this and that. Okay, how come Michael Rubin didn't step in and say, no, he's critiquing this community? Because this is what he's seen. Where was Michael Rubin at that point when his community was attacking Jay Z for making an observation? The same way Michael Rubin just did today?

[Mal]

Agreed.

[Rory]

Hypocritical. That's all it is with me in this whole thing.

[Julian]

Yeah. And I did want to say I'm glad Maul read this tweet because I don't want to. I said what I said earlier, but I don't want to kick Michael Rubin's back. And I think it's nice that he took in all the feedback and backlash that he got. And I think the only line that I'm focusing on here is my intention was to say how important it is that we need to uplift each other. Boom. Stop there. If that's your role in this, then focus on that. That's all I would say to him. Moving forward. I know his heart's in the right place. So just be that guy for the community you want to help. Every community you want to help and serve, just continue to uplift.

[Mal]

And I agree with that because from what I know about Michael Rubin, he does seem to always try to help people in good positions, business wise and things like that.

[Rory]

I know him for that too.

[Mal]

I just think that, you know, no matter what, whenever you have somebody that's not from black culture speaking on black cultural issues, there's always going to be some kickback. There's always going to be some, you know, some type of knee jerk reaction to it simply because this is somebody that's not from the culture speaking on it. But I do also agree with Rory. If you're going to speak on, you know, the things that you don't like about black culture as you know, particularly hate, hate on hate in the black culture, speak publicly about some of the things in your culture too. That's not right.

[Rory]

Not only that your culture is one that it is the biggest rule to never say anything about them. So that's what heightens it a bit for me in that regard. But I I do agree. I know Michael Rubin to be a very genuine and helpful person. From what I've heard from others that I know. I don't know him personally. I've never met him.

[Mal]

Oh, Michael Rubin, you in trouble now if you try to run for president in 20 years. They gonna play that tape back. He don't like black people.

[Julian]

Stop.

[Mal]

They gonna play that tape back. This is. Listen, this is how you know.

[Julian]

Not what he said.

[Mal]

No, I know that's not what he said, but I'm just saying, you know how they spend things years down the line.

[Rory]

Oh, I mean, for sure.

[Julian]

Yeah. That could be easy.

[Mal]

Like, you know, he was the guy that was cool with all the black guys and had to party in the Hamptons every summer. And now all of a sudden, he's racist. They gonna spit this, Mike. So listen, if you thinking about politics 15 years down the line, you can scratch that. Michael Rubin. That is out of here.

[Rory]

Yeah. I mean, again, I just think it was a cool conversation to have afterwards before people just get on publications.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You know, I get it. The private conversations they've had with certain people went, well.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And then they say those points to the masses, and it's like, oh, no. I was trying to be genuine and say, I want to help people. But then you had no context to anything you said, and you found. And it sounded like you're saying black people tear each other down. And I don't.

[Mal]

Well, yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, again, if you're gonna speak on that, you gotta speak on your culture as well. You gotta speak on the things that your culture has done that wasn't beneficial for other cultures. You know what I mean? So if we gonna. If we gonna have the conversation. Listen, I like the fact that he said it, because he's just proving to us that, you know, these conversations are being had behind closed doors amongst people. That's not from my culture. So it's like, okay, cool, let's have the conversation. We only gonna get somewhere. As uncomfortable as it may be, you know, as rough as the conversation may be, we only gonna get somewhere and change things if we have conversation and then act on the things from that conversation. So I understand what Michael Ruben's heart is. Again, from what I've heard about him, he's. He seems to be a pretty solid guy. Again, this is just one of those things that no matter what, once you start speaking on a culture that you're not from, there's gonna be a reaction from that culture. So it is what it is.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And it Just came across like Meek was the barrier of all of this. I've done so much for Meek and Lil Baby. Like, what's everyone else doing? Like, what? All right, all right, Rubes. What are we doing right now, Rubes? Like, no, I get you was there for me through that whole thing.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You had a lot of influence in Pennsylvania, Philly, everything. Like, cool. All right. But that's not how everyone gauges, you know, uplifting everyone in the black community.

[Mal]

Yeah. So, you know, again, man, again, I think his heart was in the right place. It's just when I heard it, I was like, oh, boy. I said, oh, boy. I know his phone blowing up. Because again, that's just one of those things. As soon as you speak on it, you're not from it. And you speak on it, you better make sure your house is clean, too. Don't speak on somebody else's dirty living room. And your living room is dirty. Can't do that.

[Rory]

That Tyler kind of turned it up this week, too. It's been an opinionated week.

[Mal]

I feel like it's been an opinionated life. I feel like my entire life, people have been just expressing their opinions that it's been an opinionated life. The week life is opinionated.

[Rory]

I mean, I'm here for freedom of speech no matter what, but, like, nah.

[Mal]

Some people need to shut the up sometimes.

[Rory]

Sometimes too much freedom.

[Mal]

No, we love Tyler.

[Rory]

Allows you to create an opinion that you just had no. A reason to even create.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You didn't need to even think that. That's not even your realm. Somebody should. Should put a cap on. Freedom of speech is. You shouldn't be speaking about.

[Mal]

Yeah, certain shit you just don't need to be speaking on.

[Rory]

But I enjoyed this Tyler interview with Spring Hill. Where do we want to begin? Because there was, like, two major clips that I feel kind of went viral. Anytime Tyler talks. Stop what I'm doing. I. I revere him that much. Outside of music, I think he's a great interviewer. When he goes to do an interview, he has something to say. Something unique to say a different opinion.

[Mal]

Baby D, washed your hands, would you?

[Rory]

I didn't say nothing. Those were directed at me.

[Julian]

Bubble guts.

[Peach]

My stomach hurt, y'all.

[Julian]

She got bubble gum.

[Mal]

I heard you had six slices of pizza. What's up? Why you eating like a Ninja Turtle? What's wrong with you? She over there eating like Raphael.

[Peach]

I had two slices of pizza in my stomach.

[Julian]

Like, you know how you had pizza last night?

[Mal]

Why you don't learn that? We can't do cheese. You just don't learn.

[Peach]

I know. I haven't been lactose intolerant my whole life. Like, this is something new.

[Mal]

Once you hit 30, it's over.

[Peach]

Yeah, that shit is. I cannot.

[Mal]

Once you hit 30, it's something in your stomach that just turns. That says, no dairy.

[Peach]

Yeah, it makes me nauseous. It makes my stomach hurt.

[Mal]

Like, it's like just now, you got the studio stanking. Look at you. You just.

[Peach]

No, I couldn't even use the. It's not even. Like, I gotta put. I have gas. Like, the gas pain. Like, oh, it's bright.

[Mal]

That motherfucker's rip gas.

[Rory]

That sounded a swiz beating there.

[Mal]

Feel like your appendix about to bust.

[Peach]

Yes, that's what it feels like.

[Mal]

That's when you got to start humming Beyonce songs and rubbing your back while you're on the toes.

[Peach]

You got to start doing yoga. Like, I was in there doing Downward Dog.

[Mal]

Like, you got to sit Indian style.

[Peach]

Like, you lay a towel down at least.

[Rory]

I don't think we've mopped those floors in at least a week.

[Mal]

Oh, man.

[Rory]

Anyways.

[Julian]

Well, we were getting into Tyler's recent interview.

[Rory]

We're not going to play a clip because we just keep getting flagged. But the first clip that I quote unquote went viral was Tyler talking about in the 2000s. All the producers and rappers did not sound alike. T. I didn't sound like Jay Z. T.I. didn't sound like 50. 50 didn't sound like Jay Z. Pharrell didn't sound like Dr. Dre Quick didn't sound like Kanye. Just Blaze didn't sound like Alchemist. Like, it was so much more variety. And now these young kids are just taking the exact same thing that's working and trying to. I believe he used the word cosplay. Yeah, whatever is working at the time and redoing it.

[Mal]

I mean, it's simple. It's one. It's one reason for all of that social media. Social media made it easier for people to be seen, people to be heard. You know, if you live. I don't care where you live. If you hear a sound that's hot right now on the Internet and it's taking off, you're gonna try to duplicate that. You're gonna try to replicate that so that you can, you know, be seen and be heard. It's just. It's just with technology and putting everybody in such a small device, connecting each other in such a small device, this is a result of that. Everybody's influenced by what they're seeing what they're scrolling. They don't have to leave their. Don't even have to leave their house no more to know what's going on in the culture and in the world. Like, they can see how people are dressing from their basement. They can see how people are sounding from their basement. They could know the new slang that's in this city just by hitting refresh. So I think it's a result of that. It's just. It is what it is. It's one of those things where social media is great, but at the same time, it's kind of like follow the leader.

[Rory]

And I think we had that combo years and years ago that social media just got rid of regions.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But now I think we're finally seeing the results really manifest themselves as far as sound look. But interesting coming from Tyler because. Why. I actually always loved Tyler, even before I started to like his music. Because a lot of that early, odd future stuff just wasn't really for me before he started to get, like, his flower boy bag. But I always loved that he spoke up for the younger kids. And, like, we're not all here to suck the legends dicks. We're kids. We're doing what the we want. Leave us alone. It doesn't make sense to you.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And now Tyler's in his 30s, and I feel like the younger Tyler may critique this older Tyler, but also, Tyler didn't sound like anyone else when he was a kid and came out.

[Mal]

No.

[Rory]

He was completely.

[Mal]

He was always himself, but he was.

[Rory]

Always championing the younger kids to do whatever the they want. And don't listen to the people that are older than you.

[Julian]

Yeah. In doing so, I think what he was championing is originality, which he.

[Rory]

He's had his entire career.

[Julian]

Yes. Which I think he can always fall back on is like, his critique is especially. We didn't got into this yet, but with this. The white kid Ian, that's been popping up everywhere. Who. Truthfully, man, get him the out of here. I don't get why that's a thing.

[Mal]

Just him. It's a bunch of. It's a bunch.

[Julian]

But, like, he's a bunch of hims. He's got songs with, like, Yachty. He's like a guy in the South.

[Rory]

Like, why I don't know enough about the kid Ian. That's a.

[Julian]

That's not a joke. I mean, he's making fun of a meme, but, like, that's one of his. I think that's a project he put out. That's the COVID art, that's him. Like, that's not a fake photo now.

[Rory]

Okay, we didn't think that was, like. I agree.

[Julian]

Viral meme.

[Rory]

I agree with. With every last thing that Tyler said in this interview, down to him being a music nerd. I resonate with that. This is like, we breathe and live this stuff. It's not meme rap. Like, you just doing it for a lick is offensive. You're not pushing the culture forward. You're just pushing your pockets forward for a year. Now, I won't advocate for the devil, but I've never seen a rapper dressed like this. So this kid is pretty original to me, as far as the look goes.

[Julian]

No, that's. So that's. You guys are old. This is a famous meme. Is it? I'm about to do it to him. I'm gonna do it to a meme. You guys don't know this meme?

[Rory]

I've seen that kid on stage with Yachty. I've heard the song. That lyric eliminated. The video for this was. I'm aware.

[Julian]

I just.

[Mal]

Not.

[Rory]

I don't know too much about him.

[Julian]

This was a viral meme. The. I'm like, I'm. I'm gonna do it to him. This. Like, there's a template for a meme.

[Rory]

That blew up in Nantucket. He would have done it to him.

[Julian]

So because he looks like that, it's smart. This is smart. That's good branding. I'm not mad at the optics of that. That's funny. Whatever. But Tyler said this white kid, regular Caucasian man, He's, like, mocking Future and Gucci man. Like, rap music. This is, like, weird. So. But if you listen to his music, it is. I mean, he's just. It's. He's just lifting. I mean, it's the same. It's the same beats. He's just.

[Rory]

I couldn't agree more.

[Julian]

Yeah, I just.

[Rory]

This isn't news to me. I. I think, for the most part, commercial music is very much cut and paste and super unoriginal. I think we have amazing talent. But, you know, you can count on one hand now when you could count on a couple before. I mean, it's all the same flow. It's exact.

[Mal]

Yeah, but that's. Again, that's a product. Tyler is dressed like that right now on the couch. He has a polo with shorts on and penny loafers. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that this is just a product of, you know, people being able to see what everybody's doing immediately and hear what everybody is saying. Immediately, like you can hear it as soon as you open your phone. You, you know, what's the new sound coming out of the south and who's the hottest out of this region, who's the hottest? So, you know, when, when, when cats hear that now, you know, with algorithms, people are going to try to replicate that in their own way and kind of jump in that algorithm because that's what's hot right now, that's what's going on. Instead of before social media, you just had to become somebody hot and dope in your city, on your block, and get a buzz locally first. And then people in other cities and regions will start to hear about this kid out of Chicago or this kid out of LA or this kid out of New York. And now, you know, you just gotta post you doing something stupid in 711 and go viral in. Put your link tree with your music at the end of the video. And now people could hear your music. So it's just what social media has done, it's put everybody right in each other's, in each other's pocket. That's exactly what it is.

[Rory]

Because even one of my favorite Tyler interviews was an early, early one. He's like sitting in a hotel lobby. It's when odd Future just popped. And they were like, yo, you guys are the kings of the underground. It's crazy. And Tyler was like, yo, the underground. I, I want to go to the VMAs. I want a Grammy. I want my to be everywhere. The underground. Don't ever think I'm one of those artists just because it seems that way. Yeah, I'm here to commercialize my. I want everyone to hear it. The other side of that coin is the result of Ian. When hip hop gets so commercialized, you get amazing people like Tyler, but you also get people that are just gonna follow what's relevant. And because hip hop is so relevant in everyone's faces, of course kids that know nothing about this shit and have the Dockers on are gonna be like, yo, I could just hit this one program on my computer and sound just like Future Think I'm not gonna do that as a teenager. It's just the same result.

[Mal]

We should talk about it every time. Just the power of, you know, technology and how a no name kid who is just some not even known really locally, wherever he's from, he can upload his music and have it sitting in the same space as Beyonce's new album.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Whereas before you had to really be known if somebody owned a record shop or owned a music store, and you wanted to get your CD in there. First of all, you had to be hot. You had to have a buzz in.

[Rory]

The city, because I'd have money to press up all that.

[Mal]

This is what I'm saying. So now I could just record something and hit upload and have my shit on itunes the same day Beyonce releases her album, like, the biggest artist in the world. So, you know, you got to look at it like, yes, technology is great, social media is great. But there's going to be some things as a result of everybody having almost the same type of playing field and opportunity to be seen and be heard. Of course, some things are gonna start to be like, yo, that's not even authentic. That's not even. Who is this? This is somebody just cosplaying what they think is dope or what they think is cool. And that's exactly what this is.

[Rory]

So to your point of the cosplaying, Boo, which I don't want to call Akon's brother, and I think that's becoming very offensive because Boo, in his own right, has been a legend in this industry for sure. But behind the scenes. So, I mean, I get it. And he also looks identical to Akon.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, I've seen him in the Def Jam building, and for a second, I had to double take, oh, that's Boo. He replied on his IG and said he. He signed Ian. And that does mean a lot coming from Boo, as far as his reputation, integrity in the music business. Like, he's not a go find some type of executive. He has cared about music for two decades now.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And has been behind some of our favorite artists. So I think it means something coming from Boo. I sign Ian, I'm from Atlanta. He sounds nothing like Gucci or Future. It's called Influence. But I never. I never thought I'd see the day where you became old and hating on the youth, which I don't know if that's fully true, but.

[Mal]

But I mean, you can't say influence. You can't say. He sounds nothing like he does Future or Gucci. It's. And then say it's called Influence. All right, so he's influenced by Gucci in future. So naturally he's gonna. Maybe you're gonna hear and see some of those influences, and it's okay. We're all influenced by those before us. We're all. We all need to look to somebody to chase and try to emulate and say, I want to do that. I want to be the next this, but I want to do it in my way.

[Rory]

I think we stumbled on a good conversation here and we can use them as. As an example. When Tyler. When I started to like Tyler was when his stuff started to sound very much like the Neptune and very much influenced by the Neptunes. But Tyler added Tyler to that. He was clearly influenced by them.

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

He didn't just sound like nerd. And Pharrell took what he loved from them and made it his own. To me, that's influence. Maybe my ear is what's the opposite of mature, because I'm old, as immature. It's not youthful. Maybe my ear is not youthful and I can't see the difference with this new generation and how they don't sound anything differently. It sounds like a future ripoff to me. I don't. He didn't push that sound forward at all. He kept that sound in the same place and did it worse than Future and Gucci. But I could sound like an old hater in that point. With Tyler, I can directly see where he influenced something, made it his own and pushed that sound and that genre forward.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Do you think Ian is doing that?

[Mal]

I mean, I haven't heard much of his stuff, so I can't speak to his music. I'm just more so speaking to what Tyler is saying. And, you know, the others that are out there that kind of emulate what they see that's hot. And what they see that's, you know, popular right now, and they try to do that. And again, that's not.

[Rory]

I'm speaking more to what Boo is saying. Is that influence? Is that influence or is that a rip? Yeah, but Boo, because I know what influence is when I listen to Tyler, I don't hear that in the two or three songs I've heard from Ian, which, again, don't have a youthful year.

[Mal]

It's tricky because if I'm influenced by somebody, like if I'm influenced by Kobe playing basketball at some point, if I'm a great player, you're going to see certain remnants of Kobe's game.

[Rory]

Because at the end of the day, the goal there is to just score a basket.

[Mal]

Yeah, but the goal here is to make good music. The goal here is to make hits.

[Peach]

Good is subjective.

[Rory]

Yeah. Hitting a shot is not subjective. It either goes in or it doesn't.

[Mal]

Yeah, a record is either good or it's not.

[Julian]

No, that's not true.

[Mal]

There's some records that are undeniable.

[Julian]

We've literally just sat here for beef.

[Rory]

Songs that are undeniable, for sure. I don't Know if Ian is making undeniable records, I, again, I can't speak to that.

[Mal]

I don't know.

[Julian]

His catalog said, like, him being from Atlanta, as if that holds any weight. Like, you can be the problem and still be from the city where the influence derives from. That's not. Mute those. Those two things. There's no, like, correlation there.

[Rory]

No, I think Boo was trying to say I was around for Gucci Future. Like, I was in Atlanta. I know the difference between what we were doing at that time and what Ian is doing. There is a big difference. He's just influenced by these guys. I'm from Atlanta. I know this. I know Atlanta better than you would know Atlanta. That's what I think Boo is trying to say.

[Mal]

Yeah. And not only that, he's, you know, he's more so saying, like, he's not trying to be those guys. Yeah, he's not, you know, just copy and paste and trying to rap like them and make music like them, but he is influenced by them. And, you know, again, if you're influenced by somebody, sooner or later there's going to be some remnants. There's going to be some like, oh, okay, I see. I. I could tell if somebody said, you know this person. Yeah, he influen you. Like, okay, I can see that. I could hear that in your music. But again, I don't know, man. I understand what Tyler's saying, but I also understand what Boo is saying as well. I think Tyler's more so saying, like, we just need more originality. And again, when you have a white kid that's kind of like, making that music or, you know, dressing a certain way, it's like, bro, that's not your culture.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I just think that people like Tyler, Travis Cuddy, like, artists like that are allowed to say all that. Like, if it's coming from someone that may not be. May not have the resume that they do as far as changing the sound and the culture, I can see that looking like old hate. Like, when I say it. I could totally see someone being like, yo, you're an old hater. I think Tyler and all them deserve a pass on anything they say in regards to pushing genres for forward, because they have. So they absolutely. They're allowed to complain about all the people that are doing this cheap and not contributing the way they are.

[Mal]

And I just like when people like Tyler just, you know, they. They throw their opinions out there because there's such, you know, their personality and their character, it just is one. It's entertaining. But then you. You Know, and you understand they really care about the art and. And the culture, so I understand what Child is saying, but I also get where Boo is coming from as well. So.

[Rory]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Maybe you just got to take a Molly, and then I feel like your ears will connect to what everyone's doing.

[Mal]

I took Molly once and never again.

[Julian]

Loosen up a bit.

[Rory]

Didn't make you want to cheat?

[Mal]

I couldn't, but. Didn't work.

[Peach]

But did you want to cheat?

[Julian]

Of course.

[Mal]

I mean, I was single. I wasn't. It wasn't cheating. But I don't think Molly makes you want to cheat.

[Julian]

Just makes.

[Rory]

No, I don't think it does.

[Mal]

I think the whole thing. Molly like, yo, now cheat. No, that's not how that. That works.

[Peach]

How would you know?

[Mal]

That's not how Molly.

[Rory]

Don't make some woman named Molly just pops up on your shoulder.

[Mal]

Just say, you. It was a. You know, I mean, a chick that was there he was attracted to, and the chemistry was right. She was feeling you in the moment. Presented herself, and you cheated.

[Rory]

What? What friend? All of them pressured Kev to do that.

[Mal]

All of them? Well, Kevin Hart is. He claimed he was pressured by a friend into taking Molly before he cheated on his wife in 2017. Some. According to some court documents.

[Rory]

Did these court documents just become available or something?

[Julian]

The. The plastic cup boys gave him the wrong cup.

[Mal]

That can happen.

[Rory]

Oh, so you're accusing Spank of drugging someone? That's a crime, you know?

[Julian]

No, I'm saying they were. They're boys, like, nine. They all drank Molly. That's what they did. Yeah, but I don't think it was a pressure. I think him and his friends were out and did Molly.

[Rory]

Listen, first of all, it happened in Vegas, right? I remember the doc. They hand you Molly at tsa, like when you're exiting the Vegas airport.

[Mal]

Listen, man, y'all missing the whole point. Any grown man that say he was pressured into doing something, cut the man as a grown man like you not pressured into doing nothing. After a certain age, like, stop the.

[Rory]

I'm gonna give Kev a lot of bail here. And you guys may be mad at me in court documents because wasn't he suing one of his friends or something for, like, exposing that video? Because him and his wife never split, so there wouldn't be court documents between them when he was suing his friend. You know, the courts always go through, all right? They intoxicated. Like, they have to make sure everyone was sober even before you get on the stand. They have to make sure you have not had anything to drink. No alcohol. Nothing that could have been an angle his lawyer told him to do within this lawsuit.

[Mal]

Oh, I'm not listening.

[Rory]

You are under the influence and this man took your video like.

[Mal]

I get it.

[Rory]

That could be a great way in court.

[Mal]

Listen, you talking about.

[Rory]

You talking about legally he'll say anything in court.

[Mal]

I get it. I understand that part of the game. I'm talking about as homies sitting here in this room. Ain't Nobody pressuring no 38 year old man.

[Julian]

38 at the time. Yeah.

[Mal]

Ain't nobody pressuring you to do nothing. Are you fucking kidding me?

[Julian]

You know, it's funny.

[Rory]

He works a lot. I don't know.

[Julian]

Get the fuck out of here. Is this is his best attempt at deflecting the onus of the. The biggest offense. Listen, I cheated on his wife.

[Mal]

I know. When you had a conversation with your lawyer. I get it, I get it. I understand. Say what you got to say in that courtroom so we can get out of here and not have no. No attached to us. I get it. We talking like homies here in this room though. If you 30 something years old, nobody can't pressure you into doing a goddamn thing. If you do something you wanted to do that. That's the bottom line.

[Julian]

No, but he was dressed. He was on the molly. So he wasn't thinking clear mall.

[Peach]

No, he's saying he was pressured by the friend into taking the molly.

[Julian]

No, I. But I'm saying the drug then becomes the crutch to say I wasn't thinking right. I wouldn't have this girl otherwise. It was the drug that made me do it. Like, he uses the Molly, bro. What acceptable.

[Mal]

What took a molly and didn't plan to right after that. Who took Molly and was like, yeah, I'm just. Go lay down. After I take this.

[Rory]

I can. I can honestly say the countless times I've taken Molly. Molly, I was already had lined up. I was that night. I'm never not. I'm not taking Molly to.

[Mal]

You're not taking Molly because I can't sleep. You taking Molly. Cause you like, I'm trying to this. I'm trying to nail her to the wall. Like this paint right here. You ain't taking Molly for no other reason other than the.

[Peach]

Wait, so y'all. Y'all were taking Molly like. Like for like almost like a enhancement. I used to take Molly for like fun.

[Julian]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Rory]

Go have fun. But you have something lined up that night?

[Mal]

Yeah, my part of My fun after I took that Molly was I'm about to this bad bitch night because you can't sleep. Didn't work.

[Rory]

You know, insomnia.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You know, you have to take it.

[Mal]

But no horniness.

[Rory]

But I don't know, I feel like if you were gonna go out with a bunch of your friends in Vegas and had a bunch of parties lined up. Yeah, I might take some.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Molly. I'm just saying, in my times, I've always had something lined up.

[Mal]

Yeah, but you party, you might have.

[Rory]

Just ran into that chick at a party already and had nothing lined up and, you know.

[Mal]

Yeah, but there's Molly's in my system, so.

[Peach]

Molly's.

[Rory]

Ain't no telling.

[Mal]

Ain't no telling when the Molly's in the system. Is it gonna work? Is it not gonna work? It's a gamble.

[Rory]

It's gonna work.

[Mal]

We in the dice roll. But I'm not. Come on, man, you 30 some years old. Ain't nobody pressure you into doing a goddamn thing.

[Peach]

Where are you even. I just thought that 30 something. Say again at 30 something. Where'd you even find that in 2017?

[Mal]

I think anybody taking pills in 2024 is crazy.

[Peach]

Well, he took them in 2017 though.

[Mal]

Okay, but I'm saying now, anybody that still takes pills, now, today, you're crazy. With all this fake out here, you are fucking insane.

[Rory]

I would be nervous even if, like I was going on a vacation. I've been planning this for six months. I don't get time away. I wouldn't do Molly now.

[Mal]

There's no way.

[Rory]

I'd be too scared.

[Mal]

I won't even take a Tylenol out of nigga hand. Well, that'd be like, show me the pill. Show me the bottle, man. Yeah, don't, don't just give me a loose.

[Rory]

Break the seal off that.

[Mal]

Yeah, nigga, I got a headache. You're here, take this. Get the fuck out of here.

[Rory]

But ironically, all the shit we're scared about in that comes from the same place that Tylenol does.

[Mal]

Yeah, but I still want my. My Tylenol from a Tylenol bottle. Don't pull a loose tylenol out the 50 pick fifth pocket on your jeans and say, yo, here, take this. I'm not taking that.

[Rory]

I understand pharmacies can get busy, but have you guys always wondered why it takes so long for pharmacists to just fill a bottle up with like six pills?

[Peach]

Well, because they have to get the prescription from.

[Rory]

I know that, but like, they need.

[Mal]

To make sure that Is paid for on the other end.

[Julian]

Yeah, the insurance, that's about just giving you.

[Mal]

They making sure that is paid for.

[Rory]

I know. I mean, a lot of people have health insurance and it just says $0.01. I get it. Transaction has to happen. Yeah, but even then, like. Like I see y'all chilling. There's. There's not. There's no one here but me. Why. Why y'all bagging up like y'all at the Carter right now? Just put six pills in there. I paid. Give it to me.

[Peach]

Nobody's slower than a pharmacist. Nobody's slower than a pharmacist. And no one has a longer lunch than a pharmacist.

[Julian]

Bank tellers.

[Peach]

Oh, my bank. Yeah, but somebody's always at the bank. The pharmacy would just close down.

[Rory]

That's what makes no sense. What. What law did they pass with that? That where from one to two, all pharmacies are closed like they're the only job on earth.

[Mal]

I got to count up.

[Rory]

That closes the whole.

[Peach]

They close.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Whole pharmacy closed.

[Mal]

They back to counting up that money. They counting that. That Billy that came in today.

[Rory]

Listen, I'm going to get to the bottom of it eventually.

[Mal]

I haven't been to the bottom of Big Pharma.

[Rory]

Good luck. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Peach]

That's an ambitious.

[Rory]

First of all. Biden already beat Big Pharma, so.

[Mal]

Oh, that's true.

[Rory]

I don't need to do that. That's been solved. I just want to know why it takes so long. Gotcha at the pharmacy. But, Kev, I mean, you know, we found Kevin had a whole documentary of taking accountability of cheating on his wife. I highly doubt he went to his man's and was like, why'd you force me to cheat on my wife, Jay Cole.

[Julian]

J. Cole's got a whole song about it.

[Mal]

Listen, man, I understand this video. I get it. I get it. I know when you had that talk with your lawyer and they gave you the play to run in the courtroom. I ain't mad at Kev.

[Julian]

Kevin doing everything he can to not lose half. If you really wanted to listen.

[Mal]

And I saluted. And I'm saluting him. I'm saluting him. We just talking as people. That ain't got nothing to do with this shit. Ain't nobody pressuring no 30 something year old man to cheat on his wife. That ain't. That's not pressure.

[Rory]

Because the same way we've been forced to take molly and cheat on people is the same way we've all worn women's lingerie right? That's all, like, a thing, right? That we all do.

[Mal]

Nah, bro, I don't know where you going.

[Rory]

Nah, I feel like if you squeeze.

[Peach]

That ass in the thong before.

[Rory]

And up top, two babies about to send.

[Julian]

You back to the bathroom.

[Mal]

I ain't gonna lie. I almost told the Marisol just now. That would have got me kissed.

[Peach]

I saw. I saw the bitch, like, resting on your lips.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, yo, you got me all the way twisted if you think I ever put a thong on in my life. Get the fuck out of here.

[Rory]

So you don't feel like if there was 30 men in a room, 20 of them have just put on women's clothes in their free time. You don't feel like that stat adds up?

[Mal]

I don't think I've ever been in a room with 30 men and 20 of them had had a thong or.

[Rory]

No, but in their past.

[Julian]

Not like in knock in the room with you thonged up. He's talking about, like, in the.

[Rory]

He was at the box.

[Mal]

Yeah, but that was just Mrs. Rosewood. That had. That was just one person.

[Julian]

Have you guys ever tried on, like, your mom's clothing or shoes or anything? Not even shoes.

[Mal]

Never.

[Rory]

And if you're. If you're looking to feel better about you doing it. Yeah, you're not gonna get that here. But I will say I don't judge.

[Julian]

You if that's your thing, not clothing.

[Rory]

Your journey is your journey, and it brought you here, and I'm happy.

[Julian]

Heels. Heels make you taller. So when you're younger, like, I would, like, step into my mom and dad's closet and, like, put it. And I'd be, like, you know, taller. I'm not walking around the house in them.

[Mal]

You're also gayer.

[Julian]

Sure, fine. But, like, I. But for the sake of being like, oh, I'm, like, three inches taller now. I'm not, like, taking photos and, like, gaping myself. I'm just putting on the shoes.

[Rory]

I was very specific.

[Julian]

A little taller.

[Mal]

All right, cool. Your journey is your journey.

[Julian]

I had it because when. When this happened. Roy texted this to me this morning when I was at the gym and I was working out, and I had, like. I was thinking back, I was like, did I ever do that? And I was like, I never tried on clothing, but I definitely, at some point, tried on, like, my dad's shoes, too. But it was. It was stupid because they're the same. They're on the floor.

[Rory]

What's the funniest part about this conversation is we've given no context, and I don't Think everyone saw the Oscar de La Hoya clip? May think I just asked you guys if you've tried on women's clothes.

[Mal]

Well, Oscar de La Hoy.

[Rory]

I didn't text Julian when he was at the gym, like, yo, you be wearing women's clothes.

[Mal]

No, no, it was inspiration behind it. I get it. Oscar De La Hoya was on an episode of Club Shay Shay with Shannon Sharpe. And Oscar says, I'm glad I said they were real lingerie photos because it set me free 15 years ago. So what? I bet if I asked 30 people here, 20 of them say, yeah, I wore something from a woman and closed doors. That's what happens. Mine just came out publicly. Shannon Sharp says, yeah, I don't know about that, Oscar.

[Julian]

I don't know about that, Oscar.

[Rory]

Yeah, and Julian, I don't think that's what Oscar was referring to. I don't think he was saying, yo, like, when toddlers are just playing with things in closets.

[Mal]

Yeah, I mean, that's different. You don't know what the hell you're doing.

[Rory]

How do you think you come up with that stat?

[Julian]

Are these the I'm so tired of.

[Peach]

People fake ass statistics? Everybody got a fake stat.

[Julian]

Wait, he did this and then threw the clothes.

[Rory]

Women have that. That weird stat where they say, like, that's 90 of men are on the down low. And it's like, where did you get that stat?

[Peach]

I don't know. I'll go about 50, though.

[Mal]

That's what women get cooked by one. They cook, they soul. And 58. All men.

[Rory]

50 of straight men are not on the down low. That is. That's no way.

[Julian]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Rory]

That's an insane.

[Julian]

It's an insane number.

[Mal]

I don't think you know how crazy.

[Rory]

That's an insane stat.

[Mal]

That means like two of us. Four men in this room. That means that two of us is on the download by that. By those numbers. Get the up.

[Rory]

I mean, the fans would say.

[Mal]

That'S crazy.

[Rory]

But what's Oscars? I mean, I'm glad he's free. Like everyone.

[Peach]

I'm glad he's free.

[Mal]

Well, he's been free for a long time.

[Rory]

Yeah. But there was years whenever one of.

[Mal]

The greatest boxers ever for sure fire.

[Rory]

But there was a, you know, it's.

[Julian]

Crazy time when everyone knew this outfit.

[Rory]

And he kept denying it.

[Julian]

You can still kick your ass in this fit.

[Rory]

Oh, for sure.

[Mal]

Then he said he was plant that heel.

[Julian]

And he was what?

[Mal]

He said he was drugged. Right.

[Rory]

Molly from his friend that pressured him.

[Julian]

Plastic cup Plastic glove, boys.

[Mal]

Listen, man, Molly ain't never made a. Want to put some fish. A fishnet onesie on.

[Julian]

Look at the. The fedora is crazy.

[Mal]

The wait doors was crazy. That's what's crazy.

[Rory]

He had to keep the wig on.

[Mal]

The fedora is the most normal part of the picture. Like, the fedora is the most normal part of that picture. How you.

[Rory]

The Ramones on top and Madonna on the bottom.

[Mal]

Yeah. That's sick.

[Julian]

They called him beauty in the kink. That's funny.

[Mal]

Yeah. Oscar, you the only one on that. On that type of bro.

[Rory]

Did he really say that someone drugged him, though, or you were just doing a callback to Kevin?

[Mal]

I think he said he was drugged. I think he said he was drugged and he didn't. He didn't know.

[Rory]

That's crazy. What was going on all the times he did it.

[Mal]

Listen, man, just live your truth, man. Just live in your truth. That's the. That's what people should do. Live in your truth. Truth. Live your life. It's 2024. Nobody gives a. Like, this is the. The time when anything goes. There's no rules. You can do whatever the you want to do.

[Rory]

Yeah. Even Michael.

[Mal]

And if you speak on somebody doing what the they want to do, guess what? You get canceled. That's where the world is at. Now if I say, yo. Damn, that's crazy. Like, yo. Nah, you can't do that. What?

[Rory]

Yeah, talk to Michael Rubin. He let us know that Meek can be gay if he wants to be.

[Mal]

I saw there's not a gay moment in his body.

[Peach]

I saw the Emily in Paris. They had, like, the relief. Like.

[Rory]

I do think statistically 50 of men are on the download.

[Peach]

I told you.

[Rory]

I saw two people just clap out of the four men.

[Mal]

Because I like Emily.

[Julian]

This show is amazing.

[Mal]

It's my. Right here. Y'all know I love Emily. Paris.

[Peach]

Well, they were having like. Like the whatever something on West 4th yesterday, and I thought about you. I was like, oh. They, like, had this whole restaurant on West 4th, like, decorated like Paris. They had, like, the little Vespa. Like, it was cute.

[Mal]

Well, New York City is slowly turning into Paris. I don't know if you know that. There's bikes every where.

[Rory]

I've never been to Paris, but everyone on my Instagram goes there every weekend. So I've seen a lot of things where in New York looks like Paris, because I would love to go everywhere.

[Julian]

I'm just stepping over Paris everywhere, eating.

[Mal]

Outside on the sidewalk. That's. That's a Paris next to the Rats.

[Julian]

Yeah, I'm hyped.

[Rory]

Are they stepping over fentanyl addicts?

[Mal]

And Paris is very dirty.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

People don't know that about. People think Paris is like this beautiful, clean city. Paris is dirty. It's a dirty city.

[Julian]

Ma, when are you binging this? Because we have to watch together.

[Peach]

Oh, my God.

[Mal]

That's gay. But I don't know. It's only one episode that's out there, right?

[Julian]

Don't they. Do they do the whole season?

[Mal]

It's Netflix, but it says sometimes Netflix.

[Peach]

Will release three by three, one by one.

[Mal]

Yeah, I think it only said part one of season four.

[Julian]

Oh, that' well, they're doing it. Yeah, they're doing it, at least.

[Mal]

Oh, okay. Well, yeah, I gotta watch this.

[Rory]

Okay, so no spoiler alerts, but, like, what's your predictions of where she's at right now in her life, to be honest. Where do you see her taking this season?

[Mal]

I don't know, man. The last season three. Actually, I gotta watch season three over because it's been so long. I kind of forgot where it ended it. But I do think this. Something is telling me this may be the last season.

[Julian]

You think?

[Mal]

Yeah, I think this might be the. I think she's going to end up coming back to America at some point.

[Julian]

Chicago.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

How many years has these three seasons taken place in?

[Julian]

It's just a year each. So she's like in her third year now in Paris. Fourth year. This is so how they. They're doing half the season. It's like the final season of Ozark, what they did. Five episodes are out now. There's. I don't know if there's a release date on the second batch of episodes, but it seems like if they do. Okay, so five are out now, and I'm assuming they'll.

[Mal]

34 minutes. 35 minutes.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

That's quick. This is a great show, man.

[Julian]

Great show.

[Mal]

They still haven't called me. It's okay.

[Julian]

Their black quota, though.

[Mal]

Yeah, they did, right?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But I sent you the ticket link to go to, like, the premiere in New York. I put it in the chat, which I got from our new Raymond Twitter community.

[Mal]

I didn't see that. I wouldn't have went anyway, but why not?

[Peach]

I.

[Julian]

With Emil. She's dope, but you do. She's cool.

[Rory]

Not a personality. I know.

[Julian]

Alfie's the man, too.

[Mal]

This is a great show, man. This is like my. This is like my. My corny. Like, corny show that I watch. Like, it's corny, but it's like it's like, good. Corny, though.

[Rory]

I watched the. Oh, God, I forgot the title already. With Matt Damon.

[Julian]

Oh, instigators.

[Rory]

Instigators. I watched it last night. I'm. I'm mad. They killed my man's off so quick.

[Julian]

I didn't want to spoil.

[Rory]

Happened so quick. It's not even really a spoiler. It's like when Chris Brown gets killed in you Got served.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Or, I mean, what. What's the other Greek Stomp the Yard?

[Peach]

The Greek version.

[Julian]

Can we. Can we talk about it? Should we talk about it?

[Rory]

Sure.

[Julian]

What'd you think of the movie? Ignore the spoiler. We'll skip over that. We won't say who, by the way.

[Rory]

Jack did really good. I was upset with that because he was Hulu. No, Apple tv.

[Julian]

Apple tv.

[Rory]

I do want to say Jack Harlow was great. In the time that he was there, I refused to see White man can't jump. So I did not know if he was going to be a good actor. He did great with them.

[Julian]

Yeah, he was really good with that.

[Rory]

Said the trailer kind of threw me off.

[Julian]

They made him seem like he was the man in it.

[Rory]

Not just with Jack, the whole movie. The trailer threw me off. I thought it was like, really gonna be this heist movie that's like, similar to the Town or something like that. It was kind of like a buddy. Buddy comedy.

[Julian]

Comedy.

[Rory]

Ridiculous. It wasn't a intricate Ocean's Eleven movie the way I thought it was gonna be. Like, it's a lot of stupid. Like he's. He's bleeding out for like half the movie.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

They didn't even put pressure on his wound. I'm like, okay, I get what this is. Like, pushing the biggest safe I've ever seen in my life. By yourself, out of a window. I was like, okay, this is like a buddy, buddy rock Kevin Hart comedy. This is not what the trailer was. But with that said, I did enjoy the movie.

[Julian]

It was a good.

[Rory]

I laughed. It was a good movie. Just not what I expected.

[Mal]

I gotta check it out because y'all was talking about it in the chat.

[Julian]

And I like, they did a good job. But yeah, to Roy's play, it was like a. It was like a blue collar version of a. Of the rock Kevin Hart. Like, it had obviously a big budget, but it didn't seem overly Hollywood. It was still very Boston and I don't know. And it's just, you know, classic corrupt police system politics or it's.

[Mal]

It takes place in Boston.

[Julian]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Julian]

They hit all the spots that Go to the Haba. They go to the. The. They do it all.

[Rory]

But what was the most annoying thing about it? I'm watching it with Kia, right? And Matt Damon's character's name is Rory.

[Julian]

Yes.

[Rory]

In the movie, and this isn't a spoiler alert, he has a therapist, and she's a main character in the entire thing. And throughout the movie, she acts as a therapist through the whole thing and just asks him, like, real therapy questions about what he's doing with his life. And every time she was like, well, Rory, do you think that was a smart decision to make for your future? And Kia, the whole time on the couch is go, mm, mm.

[Julian]

It's a movie like.

[Rory]

Like that therapist.

[Mal]

She wants to ask you. She wants to ask you the same thing.

[Rory]

And for some reason, no one. They call Matt Damon Rory in the beginning. And then you never hear it again until the therapist comes in the second half and she says Rory about 50 fucking times for the rest of the movie. She can't see him without saying the name. Every question she asks. It was the most annoying thing in my house watching that movie because Kia wanted me to answer some of the questions. I'm like, I didn't do this again.

[Mal]

She's not talking to me.

[Rory]

But do you see the similarities? No.

[Mal]

That's why you can't watch certain movies with your lady.

[Rory]

Sometimes when your name is in the movie.

[Mal]

Yeah, you gotta just binge that shit on your own.

[Rory]

But I'm not used to that. Rarely. I never watch Gilmore Girls, so I hearing my name is weird.

[Mal]

Damaris. Do you have. Which one are you? The friend in your group that if y'all take a picture together and you don't like how you look in the photo, but everybody else likes it, you vote to not not post a picture?

[Peach]

No. They could post it. Just don't tag me.

[Julian]

It's still. You post it.

[Peach]

But I mean, it's still. That's. That's fine. Just don't tag me. Or actually, you could tag me. I just won't repost it. And don't be surprised that I don't repost it if I don't like. If. No.

[Mal]

Why not?

[Peach]

Because I don't like ugly pictures of me. You don't like ugly pictures of you. Right.

[Mal]

I never even really look at. Somebody takes a picture. I don't look at the picture. I've taken pictures with people. I've never looked at it. I couldn't tell how. If they like it, I'm like, great, that's fine. Yeah.

[Peach]

But I don't. I'm not going to repost a picture I don't like. But you're free to post it. I wouldn't. If everybody else likes the picture. I'm not going to say guys know. Don't post the swack. No.

[Rory]

Have you ever had a friend edit you and their photo because they were editing everyone else?

[Julian]

Oh, that's awful.

[Peach]

Oh, my God. Gabrielle Union did that to Beyonce. It was awful. But, no, you, like. You don't edit a Beyonce photo. Beyonce take a photo with you and you just. Except she facetuned Beyonce.

[Mal]

Who?

[Peach]

Gabrielle Union. Y'all never seen that photo.

[Mal]

Mace, tune in. Beyonce is hilarious.

[Peach]

I was staring at it like, yo.

[Rory]

But getting approval to do it is crazy.

[Peach]

I know. She didn't get approval to do that shit. Look at it. Oh, my God.

[Rory]

There's no way you could post a photo of Beyonce without.

[Peach]

I mean, if you're a Gabrielle Union, probably.

[Rory]

Yeah, I guess so.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Peach]

She. She yassified, baby.

[Julian]

Oh. Because Tia posted the original, and you can see the difference in Gabrielle Union's version. Why'd she do that to her?

[Peach]

I laughed for, like, 30 minutes straight when I saw that.

[Rory]

Yo, when. When Kia was pregnant, she went out with one of her friends that respectfully has the surgery that, like, all the girls have where they all, like, kind of look like a fish. I wouldn't go fish. But, you know, we. We all know that.

[Mal]

Botox.

[Rory]

No, the actual, like, the lip, nose, the thing that derived from the Kardashians trying to look like black women. And now all because your whole face.

[Julian]

Looks like it's being pulled back.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Like, it's like you're in a wind tunnel.

[Rory]

We're not all going to pretend like half these girls haven't gotten the exact same face surgery in the last five years.

[Mal]

I thought it was just Botox, but I didn't know it was certain.

[Rory]

No, it's lips, everything. So they have the. But she still edits her face in every photo. And without even asking, Kia edited her face the same and made Kia look like Cardi b and tagged her. And I said, if you don't text that girl to take that photo down. She looked insane.

[Mal]

I took. Who was it? Some. Somebody took a. I took a picture with. And. And they had the. The filter on. And when she. Oh, Azealia. We took a picture. We took a picture one night together. She had, like, some whatever filter was on, and when she posted it, I was like, oh, I didn't know that that filter was on.

[Peach]

Oh, I've done that to y'all a bunch of times.

[Mal]

I look like. I'm like, I don't look like that.

[Rory]

Do you remember what filter it was?

[Mal]

It was just a filter.

[Peach]

Like, it made your cheeks rose, your cheeks rosy and pink, made you soft.

[Mal]

Everything. It just did. That was not me. It didn't look. I was like, I don't look like that. That, Like, I didn't look like, you know, terrible, but it was like, I don't look like that. Like, what is. And. But I didn't know that that that filter is on. When you open the camera, like, it's already on. I'm just like, yeah, y'all just walk around with that. Like, everything is going to look like that. I don't know.

[Peach]

Some people do it. Some people are insecure.

[Mal]

Do you.

[Rory]

Do you think there'll ever be a documentary about how the dog ears and tongue filter change the world?

[Peach]

Oh, what about the flower Crown? Yeah, those. 2016 was the best year of our life.

[Rory]

Our data was compromised, don't get me wrong, but I think that's when they just stopped hiding it.

[Mal]

We're scanning your face like, this is.

[Rory]

Yeah, but, you know, did you guys see?

[Julian]

I. I saw this recently.

[Rory]

Peach used to kill those crown flower ones. I still have some of those saved. He used to make fun of Raven when she would do her selfies with that. And Peach would try to do the exact same face in our group chat. That was some of the funniest I'd ever seen in my life. And he would put, like, the Snapchat ravy B face. Oh, I missed the old days.

[Julian]

Classic.

[Mal]

Oh, man.

[Rory]

Everything was funny.

[Julian]

Back in the day, I saw something that Google was getting sued or something was happening where basically they found out that, you know, when you go into incognito mode, it's like nothing supposed to get saved. Nothing. Like the data's A. And obviously they were saving all that data, of course.

[Rory]

And naturally surprised, they just put another name on it.

[Julian]

Spoiler.

[Rory]

Diet Coke is still Coke.

[Julian]

So I think that there was something where they. They have to actually delete the. The data or something. I was. I don't know where I was reading this, but it was. You know, they're being led to tell you one thing and they're doing something else. That's. That's pretty.

[Rory]

We're not being here.

[Julian]

It is Google forced to delete incognito most private data data browsing history. Because that's what they obviously sell you with. But obviously that's not the case. They're harvesting all that data, but they're, I guess, have been pressed enough where they're actually going to get rid of it.

[Rory]

Julian, when you download a new app, what's the first question they ask you? Yeah, ask app not to track. It doesn't say, don't track me. It says, yo, ask.

[Mal]

Like, ask them not.

[Peach]

Ask them not to please y'all.

[Rory]

That didn't mean they were going to answer. Yeah, I got you.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, nah.

[Rory]

It's either yes or ask them not to.

[Julian]

Here's a little more context Google attempted to have.

[Rory]

Have you ever gotten an answer when you said, ask them not to track?

[Mal]

They never said, all right, we're not tracking.

[Rory]

When I say, oh, can you not track me?

[Mal]

They've never been like, yeah, no problem.

[Julian]

In. In 2021, they asked to have this case thrown out, but a judge ruled against them and sought for 5 billion. So that's. And that was in 2021. 5 billion. So who knows what. What the payout looks like now.

[Rory]

I was telling you guys in the car yesterday, it's the New York Post, so let me not say this is all facts. There was a gentleman that was suing Disney because his wife died of an allergic reaction at one of the Disney restaurants. And they went to court and Disney found that he had signed up for a Disney plus trial a year before his wife had died at their restaurant. And within those terms and conditions of doing the free trial to then pay for it. It you agreed that we are not responsible for anything that happens to you, and you're like company. You could never even sue us, talk to us, period. When you hit yes on this, that's the fine print. We are not accountable for anything we do.

[Mal]

That's crazy. So the family can't sue.

[Rory]

I think they're still in litigation now. But that's Disney's defense right now. He signed up for this. We have him in contract saying, you can't sue us when you sign up for this and you're suing us.

[Mal]

Y'all never, like, wanted to take the time out one day and just, like, really read all of that shit?

[Peach]

Nah.

[Julian]

Oh, here it is. Here it is.

[Peach]

I used to do it when I was, like, when I was younger, I used to do it.

[Julian]

Here's the quote from the. From the terms. The notion in the terms agreed to buy a consumer when creating a Disney plus free trial account would forever bar that customer's right to a jury trial in any dispute with any Disney affiliate or subsidiary covering everything. Damn.

[Rory]

Yo, I'm signing up to pay y'all.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And in return, I can't. If you harm me, I can't do it.

[Mal]

I can't do anything.

[Rory]

And I'm paying you.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Well, I hope. You ever see the Moana, the South.

[Rory]

Park episode of when they're reading the terms and conditions of itunes?

[Julian]

Yeah, of course. I love that episode that you're agreeing.

[Rory]

That they could put someone's ass on your mouth.

[Julian]

It's the. The human. The Human Sentai pad.

[Rory]

Yeah. And then that also means they can take another person and put an ass onto their mouth to just create a whole line of ass to mouth.

[Julian]

Yo, the Human Cent iPad.

[Peach]

Oh, it was a play off the Human Centipede movie.

[Julian]

Yeah, it was. So basically, once you agreed. Once again, iPad.

[Mal]

It's so ridiculous that this.

[Julian]

You agree to the terms and conditions, they can then take you and rip you from your family and your home and put you in experimental trial where you're tested for this new product, Cuttlefish.

[Rory]

Yeah. The fact. The fact that south park got such a reputation of being like, low brow, immature fart comedy is the biggest.

[Mal]

That was an adult.

[Rory]

That's. That's wool being thrown over your eyes. The amount of they've covered. Yeah, they're similar to the Simpsons, just more reactive. And tell the truth. Yeah. I always prefer south park with the Simpsons, but really.

[Mal]

I don't know, man.

[Julian]

It's so much better than the Simpsons.

[Mal]

I don't know about that. The Simpsons is cl. Yeah, you know what it is? Y. Y. Y'all just saying that a little too, like, fast. Like, y'all not even thinking about it.

[Rory]

Well, when I was.

[Mal]

The Simpsons is if. If. If. If. If south park is better than the Simpsons.

[Peach]

South park is better than the Simpsons.

[Mal]

I don't know. Y'all. Ain't. That's too fast. That's too fast.

[Rory]

You're talking to younger people that, like, when we were in mid.

[Mal]

That's the problem. Y. Y Brain.

[Rory]

We had to like, sneak to watch it. It's like, it was dangerous. Like, we have a. A love for it that you probably don't have.

[Mal]

No, I love South Park. I. I love. But I just. I don't know if I'm gonna.

[Peach]

And I'm real young. Cause I'm gonna say Family Guy better than both of them.

[Julian]

Oh, that's crazy.

[Mal]

I don't know about. That's crazy. That's a stretch.

[Peach]

That's a stretch.

[Mal]

Family Guy being better than both.

[Rory]

I mean, Simpsons is obviously like the nucleus of all of that. I think they just pushed it to a different level where the Simpsons couldn't.

[Mal]

So where y'all got the Boondocks at there?

[Peach]

The Boondocks is really, really good. But it didn't have a long enough.

[Rory]

Yeah, it was way too short. Boondocks is great.

[Peach]

It was great. It would have been number one if it lasted long enough.

[Rory]

The Boondocks. If they kept going, the Boondocks might have been one of the best cartoons.

[Julian]

Docs is Biggie. I get it. Kinda shut the up, Julian, she said.

[Mal]

But I don't like the fact that you agree with it. He's like.

[Julian]

He was like, why not?

[Peach]

You don't see the parall. It didn't get a chance to reach his full potential.

[Rory]

Can you imagine, like, the Boondocks now just within, like, the culture of what they could react to the way south park does to, like, more middle America issues, bro. If the Boondocks was around, the Boondock, Drake and Kendrick episode would have been hilarious.

[Peach]

When I found out that was Regina King voicing both of them.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Crazy. That me up. I ain't going to lie.

[Peach]

That me up, too.

[Julian]

Yeah. Boondocks. What was it only. Was it four seasons? Yeah. Damn. Good times. Boondocks was great, though.

[Rory]

For sure.

[Mal]

We got to bring Boondocks back.

[Rory]

Yeah, man. Out of all the reboots they're doing, Boondocks has to be one of them.

[Mal]

Shout out to Carl Jones, one of the producers on Boondocks as well.

[Rory]

Sure. Do we have voicemails?

[Mal]

You've got mail.

[Julian]

Of course. This is. Here's. Here's a fun one. Let's give this gentleman some relationship advice.

[Caller]

What's going on, Rory? Emulsion. Shout out the whole squad. Looking for some relationship advice. I'm 23, I live in the D.C.

[Mal]

Area.

[Caller]

And, yeah, man, I just keep finding myself in situations where, like, I can tell that I'm more into a relationship than the girl is. And maybe I'm looking for advice on, like, how to, you know, find people that match that energy. Or maybe I need advice on, like, how to not get too excited too quickly, you know, just for a little more context. I'm definitely new to the dating game. I had strict parents growing up, so we wasn't outside. But yeah, man, I got to college and started trying to get out there. I thought I had a grip on things, you know, understanding what I like. Not like I had it all figured it out, but, like, it's been cycle after cycle, you know, borrow one relationship or just definitely giving more than I receive. And not like it hurts, but it's definitely like. I could feel the like jaded is starting to play every time I wake up. And I don't like that because I generally want to not have a pessimistic outlook on love. I feel like that's a guaranteed road to ending up like my parents. And that's not what we want.

[Mal]

So.

[Caller]

So whatever advice you have on whether it's keeping a positive mindset or just how to maneuver better but would appreciate it. Thanks.

[Julian]

I like him.

[Peach]

He's so sweet. And he doesn't know he has such a long way to go.

[Rory]

Why do you guys think he's so sweet?

[Peach]

He sounds sweet. Like he just sounds like, you know, like he's. I like optimistic, hopeful people.

[Rory]

Do you think you're one of those people?

[Peach]

Yeah. I am sorry.

[Julian]

Oh, sorry. Sorry.

[Peach]

I'm not. I'm sorry. Please. No, please. You flabbered all over the fucking mic. I would like for you to explain. What about me is not optimistic?

[Julian]

No, it's just carrying to continue.

[Rory]

Tension was already building because you blocked her from your story. We're gonna get to his voice.

[Peach]

Weird ass nigga. That's so weird.

[Rory]

You think that's weird, Maul? Because I kind of do too.

[Mal]

What? Blocking somebody from your story.

[Rory]

One story. Julian blocked Ameris from seeing one story.

[Peach]

No, he blocked me from seeing all of his stories for one year.

[Rory]

Period.

[Peach]

Yes. I haven't been able to see see his. I forgot if you don't upload. If somebody doesn't upload, you just don't.

[Rory]

Notice it doesn't he has a subscription based story?

[Peach]

No, but it's not.

[Julian]

No, that's why I blocked her because I didn't want her to see something that I posted on my sub story.

[Peach]

I've been unsubscribed from your subscriptions, bro. I've been up subscribed.

[Julian]

Oh, well, in that case, that then there's no.

[Mal]

All right, all right, cool. But why didn't you want her to see?

[Peach]

You must have been talking about me.

[Mal]

Oh, stop for me.

[Julian]

I'm just gonna go in there and talk that. What the.

[Peach]

Is that a lot of weird going on Spot. For real.

[Julian]

Well, yes, I agree with you on that, but that's definitely not my end.

[Mal]

What?

[Peach]

You were being weird. That's weird beefing.

[Rory]

You don't have to be passive aggressive with this pod. It's y'all two that are be like.

[Mal]

What the y'all talking about he blocked you? You mad that he blocked him and you said he blocked you because he talking about you? That Sound like a Y issue?

[Julian]

No, no, I didn't say anything.

[Rory]

Leave us and PE out of this.

[Peach]

What didn't you want me to see that badly?

[Julian]

I. Oh, my God. So I posted. Sometimes I post myself after, like, playing basketball or at the gym. And Rory always says, like, this is gay. I don't want to see this content.

[Rory]

Not see. Now you're. You're trying to get me canceled. I replied to one of them and said, After 10 shirtless pics, I said, I think I'm gonna unsubscribe.

[Julian]

That's not.

[Mal]

Wait, that was the subscription. That was like, Yeah.

[Rory]

I wanted to support a friend, so, yeah, I'm gonna sign up for his subscription.

[Mal]

How much is it?

[Rory]

Five.

[Julian]

Five bucks.

[Rory]

Five bucks.

[Mal]

Five bucks a month. Month.

[Julian]

It's five bucks a month only if it's not only fan.

[Mal]

Yo, if I was to subscribe to Julian and he's. He's showing himself after running with the boys a game of four, like, yo, we get the. Give me my five. I will come in here and say, give me.

[Rory]

I would have like to see, like, a jump shot, see what his crossover look like.

[Peach]

It was just sweat.

[Julian]

It was just one photo in particular that I wanted. I just didn't want either of you. I just. I was just like, let me avoid.

[Mal]

What was the photo, please.

[Julian]

It was something.

[Mal]

It was.

[Julian]

It was honestly, like, a couple weeks ago, I forgot to unblock. But I blocked you, too, yo, fan.

[Peach]

He said it was the print. If y'all didn't hear, thought I. Yo.

[Mal]

You getting some sick off on your subscription.

[Julian]

I'm really not. I'm not.

[Mal]

But you blocked the marriage.

[Peach]

They don't really let you post anything crazy. I went to. I was like. I went to post, like, all my homegirls, like, feet. Like, post, like, just our feet when we were at the beach. It was. I wasn't even trying to be kinky.

[Julian]

We.

[Peach]

All of our feet was in the sand in Turks and I went to post our feet, and they blocked it and. And threatened to demonetize me. When you have, like, anything subscription based, they do not let you post anything. I couldn't post. Post in a bathing suit. I.

[Mal]

In the sand.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Julian]

That's sexy, though. That's like a.

[Mal]

That's one. That's one of the greatest poems ever. Footprints in the sand. Ain't it? Like, you can't post footprints in the foot that.

[Rory]

That grew from the sand.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, you. Damn, that's crazy.

[Peach]

Yeah. They don't play, though. IG don't play none of that.

[Mal]

But I want to know what picture it was.

[Rory]

That ass. To be on Instagram.

[Peach]

That doesn't make regular Instagram.

[Julian]

Oh, I don't remember. I don't remember.

[Mal]

You're lying. You know what picture it was. You didn't want to marry.

[Julian]

I went into it thinking, let me just avoid the issue.

[Mal]

I know why you blocked her. I know why you blocked the marriage.

[Julian]

Why?

[Mal]

I wouldn't say it on the show, but I know why you blocked it.

[Rory]

I'm actually jealous. I never thought of doing that.

[Mal]

Blocking somebody.

[Rory]

Blocking somebody for certain stories.

[Julian]

It was literally just for one. And then I don't. I just forget. And then like a week or two went by and.

[Peach]

Oh, I've definitely blocked this podcast from seeing my story before.

[Rory]

Like, the new royal page or the whole pod.

[Peach]

Every single person here. Except for Peach. I've never blocked.

[Julian]

Which is fine. I don't feel. Sometimes you don't want people to see.

[Rory]

When I'm saying, I wish I did. That it was for. What would you want me to see?

[Mal]

Like, I'm trying to figure out.

[Peach]

You have to understand that, like, y'all are still like my bosses. So, like, there's some shit like, sometimes it ain't a doctor's appointment. Sometimes it just. It ain't a doctor's appointment. And y'all just couldn't see that. You know, I took paid time off work.

[Mal]

I don't give a. About that. To block me is crazy.

[Peach]

Like, off the story. It's not blocking you. It's just like, oh, they can't see my story for right now. And then I'll go back and you can see it again.

[Mal]

That's crazy.

[Julian]

My problem is I never remember to go back and undo it.

[Mal]

Yeah, sometimes you just. They just stay in the.

[Julian]

Also, this was only a one time thing. I've only.

[Peach]

I feel like you was with a. I feel like you was with a. I feel like you.

[Julian]

Girl. I would wouldn't post that on my subscription. That's weird.

[Rory]

But we're also asking what it was.

[Mal]

That blocked you say you don't remember.

[Julian]

I don't. I really don't remember.

[Mal]

I'm gonna keep telling you that you're lying.

[Julian]

A photo of me at the gym or something. And I know you two, and I know you guys every time.

[Peach]

I never. I never respond to anything you say about you being at the gym ever. I literally ignore you. I never say anything.

[Julian]

I don't know. It was something like that.

[Peach]

That's why. Don't worry about it.

[Julian]

All right. You think I Would post that on there. That would be. That would be the last place I would post it. I wouldn't post it.

[Rory]

Nate, were you potting with.

[Julian]

No.

[Rory]

Were you at, like another death situation?

[Peach]

You was at wtf? And faces.

[Mal]

And faces. At wtf. Who? I don't know, man. That's what I'm saying. At WTF is crazy. What did this gentleman, what did he want?

[Julian]

Advice. He's young, he's 23. He wants a girlfriend, but he. He comes on too strong to every girl he likes.

[Mal]

All right, so first of all, calm your loins. Number one, stop being so horny. True. And just relax, man. Just be cool. Niggas don't understand how. Just be cool, man. You could talk yourself out of pussy faster than you could talk yourself into pussy.

[Julian]

Very true.

[Mal]

Men don't understand that. So just relax. You see a girl that you like, just be easy. Have some fun, laugh. Keep it light hearted. Keep it fun. Don't lead with your blood boiling and you want to just pounce on the woman. Just relax yourself.

[Peach]

There's nothing wrong with being optimistic and joyful, even though you've had bad situations and love. I actually just made a tik tok about that where I was like. Like, it's. It's very brave to continue to have hope and faith and love after you've gotten your heart stomped on and crushed and torn to pieces. It takes a lot. You see what I'm saying? So don't give up. It's very brave of you to still believe in love, but it's going to take some time. And when somebody likes you, you'll know that they like you. And then you guys can have mutual obsession with you.

[Mal]

And don't let nobody play in your face. Face.

[Rory]

Calm before the storm right here. There's no relevance. It's a great drop. There's no.

[Mal]

That's the combo for the storm.

[Rory]

I mean, it was a beautiful.

[Mal]

It was a beautiful day yesterday.

[Julian]

By the way, it's also controlled temp. We're in the garage. Like, it was beautiful outside, snow, weather conditions.

[Rory]

I was sweating, per. I sweat. No matter. I sweat in December in a T shirt. You know how hot I was in a parking garage?

[Mal]

Oh, man, that's hilarious.

[Rory]

I think it's beautiful that he still believes in love. But love is a process. And if you come on too strong the first week, that's not gonna. You can't get to love that way.

[Peach]

You can't.

[Rory]

It's a. It's a process. So if you believe in love, believe in the Process of love and really getting to know someone, show interest. But some people don't like you being all on top of them right away because that's not love. That's an obsession. Yeah, that's like just some weird yo. I like infatuation for a minute. Like, how could I even know you really love me like that? You just met me. That's not love.

[Peach]

Love bombing. You're not in love with me. You're in love with the idea of love and that.

[Rory]

Yeah, he needs to stay away from that. And I'm not saying he's doing that, but, you know.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Don't fall victim to the honeymoon phase and respect people's routines. Especially when you're working adults in a. In a city. DCs, you know, that's a proper city. Like, she has a routine. Whoever. You're just whoever. Whatever the girl is you're talking to has a life and a routine that is. Has up until this point been independent of you. Respect her time. When she wants to, you know, get drinks with a girl, do these things. Like, don't try to change her schedule to fit, you know, your. Not. I don't want to say neediness, for lack of a better term, but like your desire to always be with her. Just kind of respect. You have shit too. Like, you're probably doing stuff too. Just keep, keep. Make it feel until it's right. Don't try to overbear someone.

[Rory]

And he said he was 23, right?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

He's young.

[Rory]

Yeah. You need to realize that.

[Julian]

Jerk off.

[Rory]

Love is not the only. That too.

[Julian]

Just rub one out.

[Rory]

Love's not the only goal at that age. You need to figure out how love's gonna fit into everything else that you want to do as well. Because you're so young, you haven't figured out what you're going to do with your life.

[Mal]

How old is he? 23.

[Rory]

Love needs to fit into that too.

[Mal]

All right, my bad.

[Julian]

23 in D.C. all he.

[Mal]

He knows not what's out there. Living in Broccoli City every day. He talking about he trying to fall.

[Rory]

We got to take him to barcode on Sunday.

[Mal]

You don't go outside, man. That beautiful ass city.

[Julian]

Where should he go? Give him some places. What do you recommend? He should. He should go.

[Rory]

His barcode Sunday still a thing? Was it Barcode?

[Peach]

I don't know.

[Rory]

We used to go to all the time.

[Julian]

Yeah, Barcode. That's a spot in dc.

[Peach]

Rose Bar still open?

[Rory]

No, he. I don't think closed. I don't think he's ready for Rose Bar. He seems like a. He's not a. I mean this respectfully. A timid soul that is really looking for.

[Mal]

They'll eat him up in Rose. Barcode exists. He ain't got no table. He invisible.

[Rory]

I mean, but that he could get to know somebody. A barcode on a Sunday. That. That's a nice way to ease into.

[Mal]

The D.C. what's that roof? Cl. Cl something like that.

[Rory]

You thinking a Rose Bar has a roof?

[Julian]

Does.

[Mal]

No, I'm talking about C.L. i think it's a spot called C.L.

[Peach]

That'S where Hov took your girl.

[Mal]

No, that was in the Ritz Carlton in the hallway.

[Rory]

That was out of my room. He said, yo, come with me.

[Mal]

That was in the hallway.

[Peach]

Have you ever got. Have you guys ever thought about, like, thought like, you know, what city, like, your significant other lives in? Like, I just. I feel like my husband is from D.C. like, I feel like my husband lives in D.C. it just gives that vibe. Like, I always want to raise my kids in Maryland. Like, that was always my dream to have, like, raised my family in Maryland.

[Mal]

That's not decent DC Though, huh? It's not decent.

[Rory]

Guys that's. Yeah, they moved to the suburbs.

[Julian]

Yeah, the m. So you.

[Mal]

But he. He's. You feel like your husband is from.

[Peach]

D.C. i feel like he's either from.

[Mal]

But you're gonna live in Maryland?

[Peach]

Yes, we're gonna live in Maryland together and raise our two kids. And one of them is gonna go.

[Mal]

Tell us who the is.

[Peach]

I don't know. No, I haven't met him yet, but I think that he lives there because.

[Mal]

Well, what gives you that feeling?

[Peach]

I just feel like I belong to the D.C. i just do.

[Mal]

You've been with a D.C. guy before?

[Peach]

No, but I feel like I've met them. I haven't been with one, but I've met them. I've had conversations with them. So I feel like I belong with a DC dude or a Houston dude.

[Mal]

Yo, feeling like you belong to. To a certain type of. And you never been with that type of.

[Peach]

I've never been with them, but I've met them. I've had conversations with them. So either Houston or D.C. or New.

[Mal]

Orleans, you just like accents.

[Peach]

That's in D.C. don't have an accent.

[Mal]

What.

[Julian]

What they do if you want to go to Baltimore, Maryland, if you want to end up there.

[Rory]

New Orleans has a significant.

[Peach]

Baltimore is not part of the dmv. They're to you.

[Mal]

Yeah, but I mean, this is still an accent, though. If you from down in The DMV area. It's a DMV accent for sure. It's definitely a New Orleans accent. And it's.

[Peach]

Oh, that's my favorite accent in the world.

[Mal]

That's why. That's all. You just want to hear a talk all day.

[Rory]

This is gonna.

[Mal]

That's all.

[Peach]

I hate that talk are to be seen, not heard.

[Rory]

Jesus Christ.

[Julian]

All right.

[Mal]

Is that like, what, what, what scroll is that?

[Rory]

That's a dead Sea scroll.

[Julian]

She got that, she got that from.

[Mal]

What cave did you read that in?

[Julian]

Like, she got that from Michael Rubin, yo.

[Mal]

What cave did you read that in? Like, God damn. Men ought to be seen.

[Rory]

This may sound. I might dirty Mac a little bit, but it's cool. I'm 34 and out the way I can dirty Mac. A Houston guy would make your blood boil.

[Peach]

Nothing is worse than Brooklyn, I promise you.

[Mal]

Most of New York moved to Houston. A sauteed half of Houston moved to.

[Rory]

Moved to Houston when they was 10.

[Mal]

Yeah, for sure from New York for sure. 100. 100. The marriage said ain't nothing worse to the. Ain't nothing worse than the Brooklyn. Oh, that cooked you. Yo, when women start talking like that, it's one in that borough. If the marriage see that she's shooting for sure. She busting shots at that.

[Rory]

What's the worst type of girl that you dealt with? What, what section city, neighborhood?

[Mal]

The worst, cuz Brooklyn might be up.

[Rory]

There too, when it comes to the women's side.

[Mal]

No, I met some really cool girls from Brooklyn. I've never had a bad experience.

[Rory]

Some of the best women I've ever met are from Brooklyn. But some of the worst women I've ever are from Brooklyn too.

[Mal]

I don't have no bad experiences with girls.

[Rory]

That's what's so interesting about the borough of Brooklyn and how amazing it is that you could find the greatest woman on earth in Brooklyn, New York City. But you could find the most demon that belongs in the depths of hell in Brooklyn, New York City as well. There's so much range melting pot on Fulton.

[Peach]

Oh, it's in the biggest borough, so.

[Mal]

Yo, that is hilarious.

[Peach]

Brooklyn's not the biggest borough.

[Rory]

Queens is bigger than Brooklyn, man.

[Julian]

But like, come on. What are you talking about?

[Rory]

Queens?

[Julian]

We talk about the airport like that.

[Mal]

Come on, it's way more to. Queens is a really big.

[Julian]

I know, but like Brooklyn, there's like a whole beach. There's more.

[Rory]

One that's called Coney Island. It's like a real beach.

[Julian]

Like culturally, you don't think Coney Island.

[Mal]

Is a real beach.

[Rory]

I think there's sand and water.

[Julian]

Coney island is awful.

[Rory]

No, I like Coney Island.

[Julian]

No, you don't.

[Mal]

It's a boardwalk.

[Peach]

I love Coney.

[Rory]

Is Coney Island.

[Peach]

I really like Coney Island.

[Rory]

But as far as, like, a beach, it's a city beach. And don't get me wrong, Far Rockaway is Far Rockaway. But there's nice parts of Rockaway beach.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

100, like Queens has a beach beach. Coney island, you know, it's a boardwalk.

[Peach]

Guys, can we go to Jersey Shore together?

[Rory]

My godfather's house.

[Peach]

I'm for real.

[Rory]

I'm dead serious. I took tomorrow there, like, two weekends.

[Julian]

Vinnie can be our host.

[Rory]

How we got to the Vinnie interview was because I was in the Jersey Shore with JWow's husband. That's why. That's why you DM me. Because we're talked about that then. We talked about of any.

[Peach]

Oh, wow.

[Rory]

We have a whole crib that we go to.

[Peach]

Okay.

[Mal]

I would. I would love to.

[Julian]

Oh, my God. We should pod from there.

[Mal]

I would love.

[Peach]

No, we shouldn't. I don't want to work. I want to just enjoy my life.

[Julian]

Okay. We should pod from there.

[Rory]

We could. You guys know when I did the. For my merch? The slides.

[Julian]

Oh, you shot it there.

[Rory]

That was. Yeah, that was at my godfather's house.

[Julian]

Nice.

[Mal]

We should walk the boardwalk with Vinnie.

[Peach]

That be they gonna be throwing.

[Mal]

Yeah, that show a legend.

[Julian]

That'd be fun.

[Mal]

Put up a statue of Vinnie out. Put a statue of Vinnie.

[Peach]

I feel like Jersey Shore would be, like, where we would get crabs.

[Mal]

Who's we?

[Julian]

Alaskan crabs, like, eat crabs.

[Mal]

Like. Like genital crabs.

[Peach]

Like genital crabs.

[Mal]

Who's catching crabs in 2024? Like, what?

[Rory]

Get monkey pox?

[Peach]

People in Jersey Shore.

[Mal]

That's crazy.

[Rory]

Jersey Shores. I mean. I mean, yes, of course, there's disgusting, dirty parts of Jersey Shore, but there are also really nice parts.

[Julian]

Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

Like, super clean, super beautiful.

[Peach]

No, I've been. No, yeah. No, I wasn't talking about because it's dirty. I'm talking about because they be. I didn't. You know, that was.

[Rory]

And they. No, they do. There's a lot of intercourse going on.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Over there.

[Peach]

But, you know, it's documented. Julian, you want to do one more?

[Julian]

Yeah, let's do one more for the weekend. This is. This is an interesting one.

[Damaris]

Hi. I do not want to give my name. Just two quick questions. The first one is for mall. So just for visual purposes. We did meet July 25th. I was the woman that came and asked you about your glasses prescription. Okay, so hopefully, if not, it's fine. I'm sorry to still answer the question. When pursuing a woman, you meet her and then she tells you, yeah, I have children or a child that was conceived via sperm donor instead of the old fashioned way. Do single men kind of frowned upon the sperm donor way and look at it as maybe an act of desperation from the woman or maybe that she's lacking something or needed a void or to fill a void? Or is it like, you look at it like, hey, a child is a child regardless of how they were conceived and how they got here. They're here. I care for you. I'm gonna pay for your child. Rata rata. So interested to just know your point of view. SC versus old fashioned way and then really for the floor. What are some suggestions for a woman 35, 37 age range that would want to meet a mate longevity, but wants to do it the old fashioned way? No apps, no Instagram, just I see you from across the room. Eye contact. And that's the love of my life.

[Rory]

Hey, see how she brought it all together?

[Peach]

She wasn't like me.

[Rory]

She asked you about your glasses prescription and then ended it with seeing someone across the room the love of their life. You ain't see how she tied that like Nicholas Sparks. So she's suggesting that you're the love of her life and she saw you. That's why she asked you about your glasses.

[Mal]

Oh, okay. Well.

[Julian]

Oh, okay.

[Mal]

I mean, listen, man, just keep it real. Thursdays, you.

[Rory]

Oh, God.

[Mal]

If it is a for me, let me speak for me.

[Julian]

I'm not probably going to agree with what Mall says. I feel like.

[Mal]

But if, if a woman has a baby via sperm donor, I'm not gonna say it's the crazy, but I am gonna have some questions. Like, if you're attractive, beautiful, it's like, how come a man just wasn't willing to, you know, have a child with you or have a family with you? Like, why would you have to go to the sperm. Unless it's.

[Julian]

I do not agree with what Mall says.

[Mal]

Medical reasons. Then I mean, I don't understand, like, why would you have to go to a sperm donor?

[Rory]

I mean, I, I have a friend that was getting to an age that, you know, women do have a clock. Unfortunately, she was getting to an age and hadn't had a relationship she thought was worthy of. Of moving on to have children, but she still wanted to be a mother and now has an amazing life with her son.

[Mal]

I don't think it's weird, but I would have questions. I would want to know, like, no man that you, you couldn't find a man who couldn't date a man. No man that you dated.

[Rory]

No, some. Sometimes it's a woman dating and realizing this guy would make a shitty father. And this isn't really.

[Mal]

Yeah, so I'm saying I'm not on it, but I would have some questions I would want to talk about or something.

[Rory]

Some women go through long term relationships and by the time they would want to have a kid, it doesn't happen and they break up. But that's still a dream of theirs to be a mother. So, you know, it's not like men, where we can nuts. What sounds in our 40s and be.

[Mal]

Fine age that the woman would be at where you're like, okay.

[Rory]

She says, well, I speak for all women. And so I would know that there's one age no matter. Like there's an exact date. Yeah, I think it's different.

[Mal]

No, I'm just saying for everyone, if you was to meet a woman and she said, say if a woman was 30 and she said, yeah, I'm having a. I had a baby via sperm donor, you wouldn't be like, I mean, 30.

[Rory]

I would have questions, but they wouldn't be like negative towards, you know, you, you couldn't find a man. I would be like, okay, 30, that's a little early to do the sperm donor thing.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You would have questions.

[Rory]

Yeah, but if she's 38 and I'm, I'm saying specific to you, I think that's why she also asked this question. Question. You being in your early 40s and if you dated a woman that was around your age, that's not super uncommon, then a woman around that time would be like, yeah, my age.

[Mal]

No, for sure.

[Rory]

And you also, she may have some questions why you couldn't find a woman to give you a child.

[Mal]

No, I could find a woman. I've had multiple women that wanted to give me a child and I just was like, no, I'm not trying to have no, no kids right now.

[Rory]

And it could be. She could be ill like you and she could have had plenty of opportunities, but didn't want to do it with that person and just went and got some sperm and said, y'all do it myself.

[Peach]

Yeah, at this point, I'm not gonna lie to y'all. I might listen.

[Mal]

Just call that, just call that.

[Peach]

Call any. I need to call a baby. I Don't want to speak to.

[Mal]

No, let me just talk through it.

[Peach]

I'm good. I don't need 30.

[Mal]

You're too young. You too young. You 30.

[Peach]

Exactly. I'm too young to be calling. I ain't got no business calling out. Like I was saying, instead of picking the wrong baby daddy, I will go get a sperm daughter. I can't. I'm not signing myself up for that bullshit.

[Rory]

The only time I would judge you is if you let that guy from Netflix fuck you to have a kid or let him beat off in a supermarket and then you got the nut. Now I'm. Now I'm judging, but other than that, I would never judge.

[Julian]

You get like a scouting report for the sperm donor. You get like a full rap sheet.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I mean, when you do it the correct way. Not that.

[Julian]

Yeah. Not crazy.

[Rory]

Illegal way that was going on.

[Julian]

Not at the rest stop bathroom.

[Peach]

Julia, if I wanted to have a kid, like, and I didn't have a kid after a long time, would you nut in a cup for me?

[Julian]

No.

[Peach]

Really?

[Julian]

No. I don't think I could have knowingly like, my nut just like a kid that's mine and not have a. I would want to be.

[Rory]

No, it would be co. Like, co parenting as friends.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

No, I don't want that dynamic with my kid. I want, like, my kid with someone I love. No offense, like, romantically love. I mean, no offense.

[Rory]

Obviously. You're always seeing things that you're doing.

[Peach]

So y'all gonna make me pay for artificial insemination?

[Mal]

Would I nut in a cup for you? Yes.

[Julian]

You'd want malls.

[Rory]

You have a great hairline.

[Mal]

Hell, no.

[Rory]

You're a viable candidate.

[Peach]

I love his family. It's him I don't like.

[Mal]

Nut in a cup is crazy.

[Rory]

Mo, you have great skin, great hairline. Thank you. Like, you have a lot of qualities that I could see. Someone seeking a sperm donor would want.

[Peach]

Our kid not going to the NBA.

[Mal]

But I'm. Now I'm at that age. You can just come get this dick. Like, I ain't got to donate a.

[Rory]

But then that's like, that's your kid. That's not like a sperm. Don't you. That woman and got her pregnant. Like, now you have a responsibility. But if you donate sperm, there could be a world where that's not your responsibility. If you a girl and nut inside of her, that's your responsibility.

[Mal]

But I'm just saying, if a girl comes to me and says, yo, I want your sperm to have a kid, will you nut in this cup for me, I would probably be like, well, why don't you just let me hit?

[Julian]

I see, it makes sense, right? No, it doesn't.

[Mal]

Let me hit.

[Julian]

Joking.

[Mal]

Let me hit. And then, you know, you get pregnant and that's it.

[Rory]

And then, you know, just the kid.

[Mal]

N. I'll go pick shorty up on. On a Sunday.

[Rory]

So then that's not really donating sperm. Now you're co parenting off a woman you and nutted inside. Yeah, but if she's your kid.

[Mal]

But if a woman is coming to me asking me that, she probably knows me.

[Peach]

I would hope so, right?

[Julian]

Probably.

[Peach]

So if she wants my nut.

[Rory]

Voicemail. What she was trying to say, if.

[Mal]

She wants my nut, then you think that once she has the kid, she's going to just act like that ain't my nut. If she already know me, of course she gonna pull up on me and be like, duh. I'm like, yo, this. Remember when I asked you for that cup? That's a little 40 ounces in the back. I'm out of here. Yo, listen, man, can I ask you.

[Julian]

Guys a question about man?

[Mal]

Why?

[Julian]

Because I, I had, I heard. Heard this on another podcast and I thought it was curious. I wanted you guys opinion. Opinions. What if when you are the man that, that donates sperm to say a lesbian couple, they have, they have the kid, they're raising it, and then the kid's like 5 years old and you're friends with the women. It wasn't like random women that you donated to, but they're raised. It's their kid, they're raising the child. But you knowing that there's like a, you know, your sperm running around, you're like, I want to be a part of this kid's life. Do you reserve the right to be in that kid's life or should the people that are raising the kid be like, no, like you're we.

[Mal]

I know them.

[Julian]

It's not the dynamic here.

[Rory]

Yeah, but that, that's why I think unless you have the agreed upon friendship thing, like we are going to co parent and I will just give you my sperm because we both want to have children and it hasn't been in the stars with us to do it in a relationship, the only other way I see that working is the anonymous sperm donor.

[Julian]

But it wasn't. They weren't taking their friend's sperm under the guise of him being involved, like being a co parent. He was doing it because they're a lesbian couple. Couple and they just wanted to have a kid and he Was like, I'll do it. I'm your friend. But now he's like, I want to be in this kid's life. And they're like, no. Like, that's not your no. And I'm on the women's side. I'm like, no.

[Mal]

This.

[Julian]

Just because you came and now have a consciousness that one of your sperm is now a human, you don't just reserve the right to just inject yourself into their life when you agreed upon different terms when this initially happened.

[Rory]

And that's why I agree in the beginning, it should either be a friend, agreed, co parent thing, where I'm going to be the father, father, and y'all will be the mother. We've agreed with this. Or come go find someone that legally cannot even come over here.

[Julian]

Yeah, those.

[Rory]

That's the only way I think it works. Because you just growing up and, like, you just seeing your kid with your friends in them be like, you know what? All right, after you guys got through all this sleeping, now the kid is cool and has opinions. You want to go to a soccer game?

[Julian]

Exactly.

[Rory]

Nah, nah. You don't get to show up now.

[Julian]

Now that he's, like, going off to a good college. No. Get the out of here.

[Mal]

Like, no, I smoke, boy. That's when. It's my boy. That's my boy.

[Peach]

That's Money Bag. M's boy.

[Mal]

That's my boy. That's Black Magic's boy. What you mean? Like, if he. If y'all think if I donate my sperm to my two homegirl lesbians, and that little turned out to be the number one player in New York State. If y'all think I'm not showing up to the school, like, that's my boy. Y'all got me up. It's my boy.

[Rory]

I'd be there.

[Mal]

Check his DNA.

[Julian]

A, but legally, that's not your boy, man.

[Mal]

Legally, scientifically, that's my boy. That's me right there. That's Junior. What you mean, y'all think. Yo, n. Seriously, if my two lesbian homegirls say, yo, ma, we want to have a kid, can we have your sperm? You ain't got to take care of it. You ain't got. We know we gonna raise a kid in a. In a. In a lesbian household, you don't gotta be.

[Julian]

You don't have to say hate that.

[Mal]

What?

[Rory]

You can just say, it's not, like, labeled.

[Julian]

Yeah, it is.

[Mal]

Outside their home. It's a rainbow flag. It's a lesbian.

[Rory]

I file taxes on my mortgage. You don't have to put Your sexual orientation?

[Mal]

Yeah, so. But it helps with taxes.

[Rory]

It's not a straight male house.

[Mal]

But doesn't it help with taxes when it's, like, gay?

[Rory]

No.

[Mal]

Oh, married.

[Rory]

That's just married, married, married.

[Mal]

But if they're married, right? If they're married and lesbians. Oh, my God. They don't pay no taxes.

[Julian]

That's okay.

[Mal]

But J.D.

[Rory]

Vance tell you that?

[Mal]

But y'all think that if that kid that I donated my sperm and he grows up and he's, like, top three in the country. Y'all think I'm not showing up to, like, the. To the gym.

[Rory]

I'm coming, too. We going as a pod.

[Mal]

Like, y think I'm not going to.

[Peach]

As a guest.

[Rory]

Are you. Did you stay in touch with this lesbian couple?

[Mal]

Those are my. Yeah, those are the homies.

[Rory]

So what you see? You see your homies for 18 years without seeing their kid. They get a babysitter at any time.

[Mal]

I see the kid, but it's like, I don't have. No. You know what I mean?

[Julian]

I don't got the kids.

[Rory]

Does he know. Know that?

[Mal]

No, he doesn't know that Uncle Mo.

[Rory]

Is really my father.

[Mal]

He doesn't know. Until the ESPN rankings come out, he's number three. Did I show up to the gym?

[Julian]

That's when he finds out on. On decision day.

[Mal]

On camera.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Did this lesbian couple pay for all his AAU travel?

[Mal]

Everything.

[Rory]

Woke up early.

[Mal]

Everything. Got him a trainer, paid for every.

[Rory]

He went to St. Raymond's everything they paid for.

[Mal]

But when that ranking comes out, you.

[Rory]

Put the hat on.

[Mal]

That's. Yeah, that's my boy. Boy, Check the DNA. Swab me and then swab him. I'm not lying to y'all. Right.

[Rory]

You should go see. What's the name of the Matt Damon movie?

[Julian]

Instigators.

[Rory]

Similar theme.

[Mal]

Really? Oh, I'm going to watch.

[Rory]

Sometimes you just got to show up to his hockey game.

[Mal]

Yeah, you have to.

[Julian]

For real. I don't know why that was such a. God. Boston. It's just men in general, but certainly men from, like, the southeast Boston region.

[Rory]

Just.

[Julian]

Just go support your kid. Like, the whole movie was about him literally just showing up for his son. Just showing up.

[Mal]

That's a hard thing for some men to do, though.

[Julian]

But, like, it was. It was like he was like, I have. I need three. 38, 650. It was something, like, very.

[Rory]

He owed a bunch of, like, back child support, hockey trial, like, because he said he couldn't look his son in his eye because he was never there.

[Julian]

To Support his son financially. He could. Like you said, I didn't have my finances in check, therefore.

[Mal]

So you have that conversation.

[Julian]

So he was holding. He'd rather go through robbing a bank. Bank and like, extorting all these people. He'd rather go through that whole hero's journey than just literally show up to his son's hockey practice and just sit in the stands and watch his son. That's why he couldn't. That's why he had to do this whole thing, because he couldn't just face the facts that he owes little people some money and he couldn't just go face his son.

[Rory]

Well, I'm not saying this. Women don't have this pressure too, but men also have the pressure in our. I feel like, in our DNA to be providers and also be emotional support and shit. There's nothing to do with money, food, any of that. It's a. It's both of those things can bring a lot of pressure. Showing up all the time, but also having the pressure of making sure I provide for them. Like, sometimes I have to mispractice so we can pay for practice.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So, yeah, I get it. Money doesn't mean anything and just be there to show up. That's a beautiful storybook, but I gotta pay for these hockey lessons.

[Mal]

What the mar said we are men are to what?

[Rory]

Yeah, I don't shut the up and pay the bills.

[Peach]

Ars to be seen and felt but never heard. So I don't know. All these men with these mics in.

[Rory]

Front of y'all is just gossiping, right?

[Peach]

Yes, Talking.

[Rory]

Why chatty man?

[Mal]

He do a podcast and he was talking to.

[Peach]

No, I mean no disrespect.

[Julian]

That sounds.

[Rory]

You know you do a podcast, right?

[Peach]

I know I do. I'm a girl. I'm supposed to talk.

[Mal]

No, you not.

[Julian]

No, you're not.

[Mal]

See, in that cave, y'all didn't go deep enough. And see what y'all supposed to do. Women are to be cooked.

[Rory]

You didn't see what the Neanderthals wrote on the walls.

[Mal]

Yeah, you ain't. Y'all didn't go that deep in the cave. That's the problem. Y'all only went halfway and got scared and was like, nah, girl, we going back. No, no, no, keep going. It's some other on the wall. Y'all ain't read. Tickets available now. New Rory mall.com. we will be in Detroit August 22nd, second at Saint Andrews Hall. And we will be in Chicago August 25th at the City Winery, followed by London September 11th and then London again September 18th. Then we are in Toronto October 17th. Then we are in Atlanta November 22nd. New York, December 13th, again in New York December 14th. Tickets available [e-mail] Hope to see you guys there. Have a safe weekend. Be. Be blessed. Be careful.

[Julian]

Do the sign off.

[Rory]

Calm before the storm. Right here.

[Julian]

Do it, Mom.

[Rory]

What I say, dude?

[Julian]

What do you say, Mom? Do the sign off.

[Mal]

I'm that he's just ginger. Peace.

[Rory]

Oh, that's an awfully hot coffee pot.

[Damaris]

No worry about.