Episode 338 | Failed Fathers

Summary

Podcast Summary: Episode 338 | Failed Fathers

Hosts: Rory Farrell, Jamil "Mal" Clay, & Studio71
Release Date: January 21, 2025
Podcast: New Rory & MAL
Episode Title: Failed Fathers

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1. Introduction to Personal Relationships

Timestamp: 01:33

The episode opens with Rory sharing a personal anecdote about his first-time visit to a Hookah Spot, which inadvertently led to an intense conversation about rap debates. Rory humorously admits, “I scared all the hosts per usual” (01:33), setting a light-hearted tone for the episode.

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2. Navigating Relationship Conversations

Timestamp: 02:03 - 04:07

Rory discusses how easily he gets drawn into heated conversations about rap, particularly the debate over "no pussy rap." He explains, “It's so easy to bait me” (02:01), highlighting his tendency to engage despite his intentions to remain neutral. Mal comments on Rory's persistence, noting, “Because I'm just laughing because the fact that you still having those type of conversations is funny to me” (02:17).

The conversation shifts to Rory’s frustration with the lack of input from women during these debates. He laments, “No women had any points to anything that we were talking about whatsoever” (03:13), emphasizing a perceived imbalance in discussions dominated by male perspectives.

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3. The Impact of Fathers on Children’s Choices

Timestamp: 05:01 - 07:30

A significant portion of the episode delves into the role of fathers and the consequences of parental support or its absence. Maul asserts, “You fail as a father if your daughter ends up doing porn” (71:44), sparking a debate among the hosts about the responsibilities of fathers in guiding their children’s life choices.

Rory shares his own struggles with abandonment issues, stating, “I'm ran through because I have abandonment issues and was trying to seek validation” (74:28). Damaris adds to the conversation by explaining her perspective on parental failure, especially when daughters enter the adult entertainment industry by choice, emphasizing the importance of parental support.

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4. Coping Mechanisms and Emotional Health

Timestamp: 34:05 - 36:28

The hosts explore how individuals cope with depression and emotional turmoil through relationships and sexual activity. Rory admits, “I fuck when I'm sad all the time” (35:05), revealing a personal coping strategy. Damaris responds by characterizing this behavior as “a distraction” (35:34), indicating a mutual understanding of using relationships to manage emotional pain.

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5. Reflections on Music and Hip Hop Culture

Timestamp: 46:41 - 84:00

The discussion transitions into musings about the music industry, particularly focusing on Dave Chappelle’s SNL monologue and its controversial reception. Rory praises Chappelle’s performance, describing it as “one of the best monologues I’ve ever seen in my entire life” (47:00), while Mal expresses surprise at Chappelle hosting SNL again so soon.

The conversation further delves into Mac Miller’s posthumous album, with Rory expressing deep emotional responses, “I cry listening to Mac Miller” (99:30). Mal acknowledges Mac’s talent, stating, “Mac Miller was definitely one of the more talented younger artists” (134:30).

The hosts also touch upon hip hop rivalries and the challenges of maintaining authenticity in the genre. Rory criticizes the perception that white rappers shouldn’t be part of the culture, while Maul defends the inclusivity of hip hop, emphasizing the importance of unity over division.

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6. Sports, Current Events, and Personal Anecdotes

Timestamp: 85:00 - End

Towards the latter part of the episode, the conversation shifts to sports, particularly the NFL’s upcoming games and performances. The hosts discuss various teams, player performances, and the intersection of music with sports events. Rory expresses strong opinions on team performances and the involvement of artists like Jack Harlow, advocating for the inclusion of hip hop artists in sporting events to enhance the experience.

Additionally, Rory shares humorous and sometimes absurd hypothetical scenarios, such as imagining DJs and rappers reacting to players’ performances, blending sports commentary with rap culture insights.

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7. Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Timestamp: 84:00 - End

As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the multifaceted discussions ranging from personal relationships and fatherhood to music and sports. They emphasize the importance of understanding and supporting each other, regardless of differing viewpoints. Rory concludes with a nod to community and unity, encouraging listeners to “Have fun. Be safe, be blessed” (168:38).

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Notable Quotes:

• Rory: “It’s so easy to bait me.” (02:03)
• Maul: “You fail as a father if your daughter ends up doing porn.” (71:44)
• Damaris: “I would rather feel the sex than feel the feelings.” (35:34)
• Rory: “I cry listening to Mac Miller.” (99:30)
• Rory: “If you voted for Trump, that’s your business. And I’m not here to shame you.” (63:14)

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Key Topics Covered:

• Personal relationship dynamics and challenges
• The role of fathers in shaping children’s life choices
• Coping mechanisms for emotional and mental health issues
• Reflections on influential moments in music and hip hop culture
• The intersection of sports events and music performances
• The importance of community support and unity despite differences

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This episode of New Rory & MAL provides an engaging blend of personal anecdotes, deep discussions on familial roles, and insightful commentary on music and sports culture. The hosts’ candid conversations offer listeners a comprehensive look into the complexities of relationships, the impact of fatherhood, and the ever-evolving landscape of hip hop and sports.

Transcript

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[Maul]

Conductor yeah yeah what you want me to do? I'm sorry. I'm sorry not sorry hey yo they around woke up the star seed for Marcy not the projects but them Brooklyn streets with my heartbeat 51 Hard Street 193 Vernon Avenue with attitudes man I'm biggin up my city that's something I had to do do or die Home of the gully where we let left fly 20 survival my bully I know that men lie women lie but Joey don't might delete later I know damn sure that Joey won't it I want all the smoke put my credit on the line cause can't with me we talking about it line for line the audacity of this. He must be out his mind Haunted by the ghost of Biggie and Pac I'm them combined spent many years mind their minds out of sight and not in mind Now I'm front in line all the signs saying it's my time swear it's all divine Properly align this little light of mine Promise I'ma let it shine till it leave you blind.

[Rory]

Yeah I actually went out for like the first time and God knows how long last night to Hookah Spot and I scared all the hosts per usual.

[Maul]

What you was talking about in Hookah Spot, man.

[Rory]

All right. In my defense, the women came when we were already on a guys getting no pussy rap debate. Regular conversation that we always do. I wasn't gonna change the convo because they sat down.

[Maul]

How do you still get pulled into those conversations?

[Rory]

It's so easy to bait me.

[Damaris]

He starts them.

[Rory]

I do start, but it is very easy to trigger me. Sean was trying to tell me capital punishment was better than volume two and I didn't care what pretty girl was in the hookah spot. Why are you looking at me that way?

[Maul]

Because I'm just laughing because the fact that you still having like, those type of conversations, like, is funny to me.

[Rory]

I mean, I'm not going to go and flirt and I didn't go there. We were watching the game. I mean, I don't know. That's just the conversations I have at this point in my life.

[Maul]

No, but I feel like they get.

[Rory]

Worse as you get older and get less.

[Maul]

First of all, talking to justice about any New York rap is just not. I don't even know why you would do that. Number two, Sean is from, you know, an era where nothing from that era is. Nothing today can beat anything from that era.

[Rory]

It was. I felt like I was in the middle of everything. Cause justice is younger and from Atlanta. Sean is older and loves boom bap shit. Hearing them argue, I felt. I did feel like when your parents are arguing or your friend's parents are arguing, you just sitting there like, all right, should I go home? Because I was kind of in the middle with both of them. But no women had any points to anything that we were talking about whatsoever.

[Maul]

How could they. First of all, a big game is on, number one. So automatically, women are not supposed to speak when it's the. You know, what's the playoff time? Women can't speak. You know that. To compile that y'all are talking about capital punishment versus JC volume 2. Where would a woman even interject in that conversation?

[Rory]

And then once I realized that we were, like, being those guys and left them out of the conversation, we started talking about, you know, like, topics that were happening at the moment. Obviously, inauguration is today. While we're recording this, which we'll get to.

[Maul]

That gets the women going right there.

[Rory]

Boy, did that turn into a no.

[Maul]

That gets the women going.

[Rory]

You know, usually. Damaris has been around me so many times when I'm with women and, like, having conversations that I end up blowing. I sat so quiet during that entire conversation. I watched people just scream at each other about politics after the Bills game. Yeah, I just sat there, dead quiet.

[Maul]

Great time.

[Rory]

We're all doomed.

[Maul]

It's a great time to be outside, man.

[Rory]

I was also quiet because I was distracted by Victoria Monet's Instagram for most of the weekend, actually, not just yesterday.

[Damaris]

Dude, that's sick.

[Rory]

Listen, I want to start by saying I respect Victoria as an artist. Her mind, her personality, who she is as a feminine woman. But I could only project misogyny while I was looking at my IG screen. I even felt like a creepy old guy.

[Maul]

I mean, but we know Victoria is gorgeous. She's beautiful, she's talented, she's post.

[Rory]

She's post divorce happy, gorgeous. You don't just go to Brazil. When you go to Brazil and wear Brazil colors and do a photo shoot and look that fucking good, you're trying to piss off your ex husband, even if she doesn't care about him anymore.

[Maul]

Right. Just to kind of let him know.

[Rory]

Like, and even piss off her. Her half sister that she doesn't like.

[Maul]

I didn't bring that up about her not liking a half sister, but see, no, I do remember that. That was around, which is up to Joe.

[Rory]

That's like family.

[Maul]

Was that award show or something.

[Damaris]

Why would you bring that up?

[Rory]

I don't know.

[Maul]

It was like an award show or something, right? That she.

[Damaris]

No, it was just her. Her. She just. She shouted out her dad, like, finally growing a relationship with her dad and took a picture with him. And then like, the half sister was like, oh, I've been trying to get.

[Rory]

In touch with you. Oh, we meet dad now.

[Damaris]

And she was like, oh, like, I didn't even know. She didn't even know she had a half sister.

[Maul]

So was that. That was around the award show, though. Was that the Grammys or something?

[Rory]

She had. She had just won. I think that's why there was so much talk around it. So.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah, probably last year and that was last year.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Nah, this. This is post divorce happiness. Stomach. Look at that.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's that. That's that fenty body shimmer Glim. What's that shit?

[Damaris]

J. Oh, you know. You know, ball.

[Maul]

Listen, that's that body shimmer fenty where it got. It got glitter in it. But it's like a little baby oil or something in there. It's like the shimmer. They put that on right before they go to the pool. Yeah, I know what that is.

[Rory]

What's funny is that might just be free.

[Maul]

I know y'all put that shit on. Y'all get all y'all drinks for free.

[Damaris]

Go lay out in the sun. You gotta lay out right in the right angle.

[Maul]

Yeah, listen, just looking like, ooh, bacon.

[Rory]

Damn. What's that? What's that? Like to lay in the sun?

[Maul]

Yeah, fire heat.

[Rory]

What's that like?

[Maul]

Yeah, just, you know, just don't worry about it.

[Rory]

Just a dream of mine one day.

[Maul]

Some full umbrella and sit under the umbrella all day. Don't worry about it. You'll be all right.

[Rory]

Um, did any of you guys watch? I got clowned over the weekend because I said I watched Saturday Night Live. Live. Like, laughed out of.

[Maul]

What are you supposed to watch?

[Rory]

It was like. Well, you watched it last night at 11. This was Sunday. I went to the Mercer to get a drink with justice and a few other people, and we were talking about the Chappelle shit, okay? And everyone's like, yeah, watch on YouTube. I was like, yeah. And I was in the crib. I watched it live. They started clowning me. Like, I walked in with the wrong shirt. It was like, wait, you see?

[Maul]

This is. Why did you. This is why I can't. Because I don't know what did you.

[Rory]

I was like, no, just. I sat and I was 11, so I watched it.

[Maul]

Is it. That's when you.

[Rory]

They said that was quite possibly the whitest thing that you could ever do in your life is watch Saturday Live. Live.

[Damaris]

I don't think that's white. I think it might be a little old man, but I don't think it's white.

[Maul]

But why? Wait, wait. All right. See? Rules.

[Rory]

I wish you guys would have been there to defend me because I was confused too.

[Maul]

When are you supposed to watch snl?

[Damaris]

Well, you watch the next come out and then you watch it on YouTube.

[Maul]

The next day as opposed to if I'm home. Not turn into it like right now if I'm in the house.

[Rory]

Nah, you how you. But this, okay, it was the last night of TikTok. I should have done that.

[Damaris]

So this is how. Yes, but this is how you tell your age because how are you watching it?

[Rory]

I watch it on cable, old fuck.

[Damaris]

That's like, you see? Are you getting where I'm coming from?

[Maul]

Oh, so we not allowed to watch things on cable no more? We gotta stream everything.

[Damaris]

Not on cable anymore. That's what I'm telling you.

[Maul]

Okay, so it's stream.

[Damaris]

That's why nobody's watching things while they're happening.

[Maul]

So clips are cool and streaming only.

[Rory]

Yes, that's, that's some Unk shit to watch it on Cable at 11. They called me Unk. And then I was really confused then. You're unknow. I'm just aging that fucking poorly.

[Maul]

Yeah, you can't be unk at 30. What?

[Rory]

33. Instead of watching. Instead of watching SNL live, they watched. Is this. Boosie put this together. He put together like the age brackets and names. You can start with 13 to 24.

[Maul]

Hawaiians. Yeah, that's the Wyans for sure. 13. It might be a little older than 24. Actually, it might go past 24.

[Damaris]

I, I, yeah, I consider YNs to stop at around like 28.

[Maul]

You a ya, 27. 27 might be the end of the. Yes, 27, 28. You should be, you should be ready to hang up your shiesty dog at 28, throw that on the fire escape somewhere and go get a job.

[Rory]

Man, this generation is so Cooked. You know what people before us were accomplishing before 24?

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

They were old heads by that point.

[Maul]

Very old.

[Rory]

I know people with two Heismans before 24 years old. Like, what do we. We are giving this generation too much fucking lenience. 28 years old and you're still young. Get the fuck out of here and go build a house or go to a war. So 28 years old. You should be unk.

[Maul]

So body. So body standards. Body standards. I mean, so Pac and Big was right between Y and Big Bro.

[Damaris]

Yeah. But when you look back, like, they weren't.

[Rory]

If you look at how their passing went, that was. Of the 13 to 24 type shit.

[Maul]

Yeah, I guess. Okay, okay.

[Damaris]

Dying in a rap beef is definitely Y and shit. Like, actually dying in a rap beef is Y and shit. That's crazy.

[Rory]

Too. Is it too soon?

[Damaris]

Too soon. Dying in a rat beef is why.

[Rory]

Ms. Wallace is still alive.

[Damaris]

I'm. And I'm mourn for her, but dying in a rat beef is not big, bro. That's why. And.

[Rory]

All right.

[Maul]

Yeah, it feels like some wine.

[Damaris]

That's a Y and bro.

[Rory]

But they didn't die in a rap beef, which I even saw a lot of people commenting on our last episode of Mall making the comparison. That wasn't really a rat beef. Why they died. They had a rat beef. But sometimes you punch. Sometimes you punch the wrong crip in Vegas.

[Maul]

No, no, we understand that. I mean, that's not why they died, but we understand where the tension and the energy came from. It came from the East Coast, West coast thing.

[Rory]

13 to 24. Now, because I said I watched SNL live, everyone was calling me Unk. And then I got really, really offended once they broke down the age shit to me because I am not unk. 25 to 35 is big bro. I'm in my last year of Big Bro. Am I aging that poorly that I look 36 to 48?

[Maul]

Yeah, you do. But it's fine, though. It's. There. Nothing wrong with it.

[Damaris]

But all of this is so subjective lighting here.

[Rory]

I look so much better in person. You guys age me here.

[Maul]

I'm looking at you, like, right here. It's not. Not because of the lights. Like, I'm looking at you right here.

[Rory]

It's these expensive black magic cameras that make me look so bad.

[Maul]

No, that those actually make you look good. That's the. That's.

[Damaris]

Damn.

[Rory]

Damn.

[Maul]

Don't know. Those help.

[Damaris]

Damn.

[Maul]

It's just a little brighter in person.

[Damaris]

I ever told y'all, when I went on that date. And that told me I look better in person than I do on YouTube and thought I was gonna take that as a compliment.

[Rory]

That's not a compliment.

[Damaris]

So you're saying I look a mess on YouTube? That's what I got from that.

[Maul]

No, see, that's women.

[Rory]

And that's why women shouldn't speak.

[Maul]

We need to. Hey, Boosie, give us a breakdown of the women. Like, when do they. Like, how. How were you offended by that? Like, how did you take that offensively?

[Damaris]

Well, first of all, he lied and said he didn't know who I was at the beginning of the date.

[Maul]

Wait, wait, so how did y'all get there? How did y'all get to the date? Like, you kept.

[Rory]

You kept the date going once you realized he completely lied about it and he was like, nah, you look.

[Damaris]

Okay, I was stuck. There was nowhere I could go.

[Maul]

No, no, no, wait.

[Rory]

You could leave.

[Maul]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Back up. How did y'all get to the date, to the actual date, without speaking and him not admitted to the fact that he already knew? Like, how did y'all meet?

[Damaris]

The Internet. Like, social media.

[Maul]

So he's lying. Like, how. How are you gonna say he don't know who you are? He met you on the Internet.

[Rory]

Maybe he doesn't watch the show and he just said he didn't.

[Damaris]

Yeah, he'll watch the show.

[Rory]

He pretended like, I know what you.

[Damaris]

Do, but he said, I don't know what you do for a living. And then when I told him, he said, oh, okay, but, like, that's like your full time job. And I was like, wait, wait, no, you right. I should get a side.

[Rory]

My mom says that too. But still ask me for money every Thanksgiving. Yo, you still do that podcast? Yeah, that's why I keep sending you bread.

[Maul]

But he follows you.

[Damaris]

Obviously he's on Twitter. This was off Twitter.

[Maul]

Yeah, but even if he follows your Twitter, I mean, you've retweeted and reposted and talked about stuff.

[Damaris]

They just pretended they didn't know what I did for a living.

[Maul]

Oh, yeah.

[Damaris]

And then at the end of the day, said, you look better in person than you do on YouTube. And I was just like, I thought you didn't know what I did for a living.

[Rory]

Should that be offensive, though? Because I've had women tell me I look better in, like, if we've met on Instagram and then we go out, I've had women say, you look much better than you do in your photos. They said that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I didn't DM you, okay? This is on my date with the women that like me. Just because you don't like me doesn't mean that other people don't like me. You ain't the standard of beauty. Okay, Nice. That's Kim Kardashian.

[Maul]

It's definitely a compliment. If somebody says you look better in person.

[Rory]

To me, I'm trash for taking photos. So I was like, yeah, I appreciate it.

[Maul]

It's better than saying you look worse in person.

[Damaris]

For sure, right?

[Maul]

But, like, if they say, yo, you look better on your Instagram. But see, that's offensive.

[Damaris]

But this is. This is what I'm thinking, right? In. In real life, I get around 10 views. I don't see that many people. I come here, I see y'all, I see the people on the train, and I go home. I don't really see that many people. So if 10 views think I'm ugly, that's fine. 50,000, 60,000, 70,000 people thinking that I'm ugly on the Internet, that's kind of.

[Rory]

But that's.

[Damaris]

Are you seeing what I'm saying?

[Rory]

Insecure men that don't get pussy.

[Damaris]

Like, no, but he said that, though. He. That's why, like, that's just the first thing I thought. Like, damn. Now I gotta think about how the fuck I look on YouTube because you telling me I look better in person than none of these big ass lights.

[Maul]

Nah, but I think that's a compliment. I think if somebody is sitting right in front of you.

[Damaris]

I think he meant it as a compliment.

[Maul]

Of course he did. And that's how you should have took. You should have taken it like that. To me, that's a compliment. If somebody sees you, obviously you follow you online, may have seen a clip from YouTube and then they're sitting across from you and they say, you look better in person than you do on you. I think that's a compliment.

[Damaris]

Sure. He's blocked. I don't know how he get blocked. He got blocked.

[Rory]

He lied out the gate on his person.

[Damaris]

He wasn't a podcast fan and he was. That's why he got blocked.

[Maul]

Well, what's wrong with that?

[Rory]

That's a red flag, Mo.

[Damaris]

It'd have been better if you would have just told me, pretending that you're not a podcast fan, and then I have to find that out because you make a slip up. That's crazy. You don't think that. That's. That's scary. You don't think that. That's.

[Rory]

You know, if you went out with a Chick, she reached out to you. Whatever. You guys had dm, back and forth. Hey, let's go on a date. And that conversation came up, and she was like, no, I don't even know anything about what you do. And then in the same date, you later find out she makes a. That's crazy shit. Or like, damn, that's just like, how much you like Drake. And she says that. And you catch it. You're not like, yo, get the fuck out of. That's the biggest red flag ever. Out the gate on.

[Maul]

I don't know if I'm blocking somebody for that, though.

[Rory]

I don't block people, period. But I'm blocking that date. Like, I'm leaving immediately.

[Maul]

I mean, yeah. I mean, that changes the energy. And on the date for sure.

[Rory]

Because it's like, what else you gonna lie about?

[Maul]

If you lie about that, the energy changes. But I don't know if I'm blocking somebody for that, though. I might not. We might not hang out again.

[Rory]

I might never hang out if I'm a woman. In Damaris's case, there. I might be scared for my safety. Like, this feels like a plot. Yeah. When he said, you've been talking on this shit and lied about that. Yeah.

[Damaris]

He sent me home in an Uber, and I put in a completely different address than where I actually live. I'm not that' if you would have been honest. That's different. But that's scary to me. I'm a girl. Like, I just. I have to protect myself.

[Maul]

I saw a conversation online that was pretty interesting. Cause this is something I thought about, like, a lot. Like, just in life, whenever I'm in that position, like, when you're walking on the street late at night and a woman happens to just kind of end up in front of you, like, and it's just, y'all on the block, on the sidewalk, that it doesn't cross your mind as a man. Like, I hope she's not nervous that I'm walking. Like, it's like. It's like an unwritten. Like, do I stop and just act like I'm using my phone? Let her continue walking. Do I, like, you know, not make it awkward and say, hey, I'm not no weird guy? Because then that makes you a weird guy.

[Rory]

Hey, I'm not a rapist. Yeah, that's rapey.

[Maul]

What do you do in that situation? Do you continue to walk, or do you continue, like, fall back and just put some distance in between y'all?

[Rory]

Yeah, I have those thoughts a lot. And you can't overcompensate and try to make yourself look better or more safe. Just get far away from her to make her feel better.

[Maul]

It's funny that most men have that thought, though. I think that's just a certain level of, like, maybe discernment. Like, just because you just have to be aware. Like, I could understand if it's just me and this woman on this street walking and I'm behind her. It's fucked up, but I can understand her kind of being nervous right now.

[Rory]

Yeah. And even, like, I've taken, like the Long Island Railroad sometimes to my mom's crib and you have to go under a tunnel to get out there. I will wait. Like, because I don't want a woman to feel like she's being followed because it's dark and it's a tunnel. So I'll literally wait till they get to the end of it.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And it's not a chivalrous thing. It's more of a selfish thought of, like, I don't want to be looked at as a rapist.

[Maul]

That's crazy, though. Like, the fact that you got to really think like that.

[Rory]

Like, no, it's my own ego and self absorbed shit of not wanting that woman. I don't care about her safety in that regard. How she views me.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Rory]

How fucked up is that?

[Maul]

But it's funny because I never really thought that that was something that most men probably think about. Like, you know, that's one of the things I know I'm aware of surroundings and things like that and how things could look and feel. But it was just funny to see that conversation online. And, like, a lot of people jump in on that. Like, yeah, absolutely. I've been in that. And I'm like, oh, okay. So I'm not. I'm not crazy. Like, yeah, that does happen.

[Rory]

I actually. That's funny you bring that up. I had an argument this past week about the outside of the sidewalk or inside of the sidewalk debate. That's still a debate now. I was talking with Kia. Yes. You should always walk on the outside of the street for a woman. I think when it comes to the city or the hood, you should walk on the inside because that's where danger is. Somebody could pop out of some alley corner, whatever. I think the chivalrous thing is to be on the inside of the street in the city, not the outside. I get it. If a car hits us, we're both dead. But at least if someone pops out to try to rob us, it's not coming from the outside of the street, it's coming from the inside of the street.

[Damaris]

Possibly in this. Possibly. If somebody pops out to try to rob you, they're usually in a car so that they can get away, which again will be coming from that.

[Rory]

Driving down on people to rob them just willy nilly is insane to me.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's how it happens.

[Rory]

So you think muggers in Manhattan are just pulling up in, in Teslas and robbing people?

[Maul]

Well, not a Tesla, no.

[Rory]

They're coming out of dark, shadowy places that are on the inside of the sidewalk.

[Maul]

I just think it's funny that you think that depending on what side of the street you walking on, if somebody hop out to rob you, they not go do it. Like you'd be like, oh fuck, he's on the inside.

[Rory]

At least let me go, I'll meet.

[Maul]

The person, rob you, hit you upside your head, whether you close to the.

[Damaris]

Street, no matter what angle you.

[Rory]

As opposed to the other theory that if a car is coming and just veers off into the sidewalk, me being there is going to stop us from dying. No, it's going to run both of us over. I'll just get hit first.

[Damaris]

And also if a, if a car is driving past a puddle, it will splash you and not me.

[Maul]

So you think that if we're walking side by side on the sidewalk and I'm on the outside, if a car drives by and hits a puddle of water, you think that I'm going to be the only one that gets wet?

[Damaris]

No, I might get a little wet, but not as wet as you.

[Maul]

We're both going to be soaking wet.

[Damaris]

Not exactly.

[Maul]

Absolutely.

[Rory]

Then you take, then you take on the mugger. I'll take the puddle.

[Maul]

First of all, that whole scenario of where you walk comes from how pimps used to walk holes up the street.

[Rory]

Is that really the origins of it?

[Maul]

Yeah, yeah. Like if the woman is closest to the curb, that mean that thing for sale? Yeah. So the cars will pull up and start asking like, you know what I mean?

[Rory]

The elder women in my family told me it was because of if a, a car were to come, you would get hit first this whole time. Damn.

[Maul]

No, it's for pimps that had big women.

[Rory]

My grandma and grand aunties was all hoes. That's what it was.

[Maul]

I mean, I'm not saying that, but that's where it comes from. Like, yo, that that's for sale. If you want it, you can have how much you paying?

[Rory]

And all right, so that's if the pimp was on the outside of the sidewalk.

[Maul]

The pimp is on the inside of the sidewalk. The. The trip. The woman is walking towards the street. Where the cars pull up, they can see her or even in the street. You know what I'm saying? And the pimp would always be walking on the sidewalk, using them, counting that money.

[Rory]

Are they in civilian clothes or are they in the stereotypical shit? Because if I see a guy with a purple fucking chinchilla on and a girl half naked in the winter, I don't really need that trick. I can just assume.

[Maul]

Yeah. That that's what's like. Yeah, but that's where it comes from. Well, Chat.

[Damaris]

Chatgpt said historical origins of the tradition come from medieval European cities where people often disposed of waste, such as chamber pot contents by tossing it out of the windows onto the streets. Walking on the outside protected the companion from being splashed by waste or mud from passing carriages.

[Rory]

They was wilding back then. They just.

[Damaris]

Just throw pots. And they said streets were often unpaved and carriages or horses could splash mud or water onto pedestrians. A man walking on the street side shielded his companion from these hazards.

[Maul]

Okay, that is the dumbest shit ever.

[Damaris]

Now, I mean, that makes more sense to me than the pimp in the hoe, but does it?

[Maul]

No, it does not.

[Rory]

Well, things evolve.

[Maul]

No, it does not. I know where you from. That does not make more sense. They selling pussy up there in Syracuse, too. Don't do that.

[Rory]

And even in medieval times, they was definitely selling pussy.

[Damaris]

Oh.

[Maul]

Cause that's where the first pussy.

[Rory]

That's why I was throwing the mud at them.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Whore. Stone her.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's how. That's just shame.

[Damaris]

Shame.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I still think in the. The era of the sheisties, it is safer if the man walks on the inside of that sidewalk to protect you from the shadows. The horse and buggy and splash.

[Maul]

It ain't gonna happen to protect you from the what?

[Rory]

The. The shadows.

[Maul]

What shadows? This is not Dark Knight. What are you talking. Where do you be walking at?

[Rory]

No matter where you in the city, there's always little alleys and random shit that people could come up from, like that basement apartment.

[Maul]

All right, but why do you feel like if I'm walking on the inside, if somebody's hopping out of an alley to rob us, the fact that she's closest to the street, we both won't get robbed.

[Rory]

I mean, because I'm Jason Bourne.

[Maul]

Like, oh, in that case, it don't matter where you walking at. Yeah, you can catch some stuff if you know some. If you got a Skill set.

[Rory]

At least I'll get robbed first. Maybe he'll focus on me and she can get away into the street. Hopefully she looks both ways.

[Damaris]

Would you lay down that AME jacket for her to walk over a puddle?

[Rory]

No, she can just step over a puddle.

[Maul]

I never understood that either.

[Damaris]

If it's a big puddle, who has ever.

[Rory]

Show me the water.

[Damaris]

And she got heels on.

[Maul]

Who's the guy that ever put his jacket on a puddle of water?

[Damaris]

LL all right, man.

[Maul]

See this what I'm saying, man. LL put his jacket on.

[Damaris]

Y'all stay hating on ll. But we.

[Maul]

I didn't say anything. I haven't. I just said. Okay, here we go. I didn't say. I'm not hating on ll. Show me a guy that's ever put his jacket on a puddle and then show me what he did after that.

[Damaris]

I'll show him when I moved on.

[Rory]

To the other girl cuz she had a bigger butt. You know the rest of that song?

[Maul]

What he did with his jacket after that. If a guy put his jacket on the floor.

[Damaris]

Dry cleaner. There's mad dry cleaners around this.

[Maul]

No, but I'm saying, like he carrying it the rest of the night.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

A wet jacket. Yeah.

[Rory]

Look at this inconvenience we now have.

[Maul]

He carried around a wet.

[Damaris]

He let his jacket get wet so that the jeans could get wet. You feel me?

[Rory]

So she could get wet.

[Damaris]

You see what I'm saying?

[Maul]

None of that makes sense. That's just dumb. We've just been programmed to follow. None of that makes sense. Put my.

[Rory]

You think LL programmed us?

[Maul]

No, not LL. I'm just saying, put. Put my jacket on the puddle so the lady could walk.

[Rory]

We can walk around. Calls you at night and tells you you need love.

[Maul]

No, it doesn't.

[Rory]

Yeah, it definitely does.

[Maul]

No, it doesn't.

[Rory]

When you're alone in your room, sometimes you do stare at the wall. Sometimes in the back of your mind you hear your conscious call.

[Maul]

It depends on what it's saying.

[Rory]

And for the first time in your life past 40, you need love.

[Maul]

See, that's what you lost me at. No.

[Rory]

Oh.

[Damaris]

So yes.

[Rory]

36 to 48 is a crazy gap, by the way, because I'll be on pretty soon in two years. But now I'm with 48 year olds at 36 years old.

[Maul]

Yeah, man, I've been UNC since I was 14. Man. I've had nieces and nephews. Like, who we talking?

[Damaris]

But that's what I was saying. I think it is subjective because, like, to y'all I might be like, you know, like, I'm not. I don't think I'm auntie yet. But to the young girls, I am. The young girls be. Be calling us auntie. Like the 17, 18.

[Maul]

Nah, you ain't no auntie.

[Damaris]

I know I ain't no auntie. I still wear pigtails, but to the 16, 17 year old girls, they call us auntie.

[Rory]

Did latto change, really, the big mama perception at this point? Because big mama used to be for older women.

[Maul]

That's Grant. That's literally grandma.

[Damaris]

Yeah. But some dudes in the, like, I. I had two hood boyfriends that used to call me mama or big mama. They used to fuck you. They used to call who called you.

[Maul]

Big mama at 22 years old. Damaris.

[Damaris]

It's like a mama. But mamas is a. Shut up.

[Rory]

What?

[Damaris]

But mamas is like a. It's like a term of endearment. So one used to say mamas and one used to say big mamas, but that's like a.

[Rory]

It's like a term of a term of endearment.

[Damaris]

Mamas. Mamas is. It's black shit.

[Maul]

Sorry. It's black.

[Damaris]

It is.

[Maul]

It's black shit. Yo, stay out of this, whitey.

[Rory]

Okay. From the outside looking in, I think you guys misuse all family nouns and adjectives.

[Damaris]

Okay?

[Maul]

We do. White people don't, though.

[Rory]

The amount of. The amount of times someone would say, that's my cousin, and then I ask, like, where in the family tree is like, no, we're not related at all.

[Damaris]

That's my mama, best friend, son. That's my cousin. How you don't know that?

[Maul]

That get tricky, though. Cousin get tricky. Ma, cousins do get. I'm just saying cousins get tricky is what I'm saying.

[Damaris]

How it gets.

[Maul]

Yes, we do that. We. You're right. I don't want to seem like I'm debating you that you're right. But it get tricky with cousins, though, because I know some people that I really thought was blood cousins for years. Like, I'm like, oh, yeah. Not really.

[Rory]

Like, I have.

[Maul]

No. We just live in the same building.

[Rory]

I'm like, I have play cousins. Like, to the point that once I got older and, like, learned what that shit really was, I was shocked. I was like, well, that can't be my cousin.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

My dad was like, that's your cousin? That's. Yeah, that's Uncle Kevin's son. That's not my.

[Maul]

Yeah, but I hate when the cousin. I hate when she fine and she like, hold that cousin shit too. It's like, we not cousins.

[Rory]

Y'all are kissing cousins.

[Maul]

No, we never kiss, but I want to kiss. Like, we not real. Like, let that. We 30 plus years old, 40 years old.

[Damaris]

If not raised like that, it doesn't matter.

[Maul]

Not cousins, man.

[Damaris]

Let that weird mom.

[Maul]

I ain't seen your mother in 22 years. We not cousins.

[Damaris]

That's weird. It's weird. I get what you weird.

[Maul]

If you. If you a kid. Teenager, I understand that, but if you 35 plus years old and you see a girl that you ain't seen in years, but y'all grew up, like, on some cousin shit and you just bump into her in a party somewhere, what, we still holding that cousin title?

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Maul]

We not. We not cousin.

[Damaris]

But if you grew up feeling like you were, you can't just turn that off.

[Maul]

Yeah, but I grew up feeling a lot of shit that my parents and everybody's like, you're not your cousin. I'm like, word. All right, cool. It's my cousin. You gotta roll with it. What I'm saying, no, that ain't my cousin, and I'm 12 years old. All right, that's my cousin. Come on, we going outside.

[Rory]

What if you're unsure, and then years later you see her? You still gonna beat.

[Maul]

No, I'm not saying I'm a beat, but it's like, if you see a girl that you grew up with.

[Rory]

I'm saying, what if it's questionable. You're not quite sure if she's blood or play cousin.

[Maul]

How would I not be sure? I would know by now. No, Rory was just talking stupid. As an adult, I would know if she's my blood cousin or not. I'm talking about you grew up in a certain way where it was like, you know, your mom and her mom was cool, close, and all of that. Y'all come over to all the family functions. Oh, yeah, that's your cousin, 34 at the bar. I see you at the. At the club. We not cousins, man. Stop. Stop calling me a cousin.

[Damaris]

You being weird. You can't do.

[Maul]

I'm not. I'm not saying I'm for him. I'm just saying stop calling me a cousin. You know my cousin.

[Damaris]

So why you want her to stop being flirting. If you're not flirting, why you want her Stop calling me not cousins.

[Maul]

I'm just saying stop. We ain't got to do that no more.

[Damaris]

That's no.

[Maul]

We ain't got to act like cousins no more. We grown.

[Rory]

Trying to see it from your perspective. But he horny. That's his perspective.

[Maul]

I'm just saying we not cousins.

[Rory]

I'm trying to shoot him bail because in my scenarios with this, all of them would are white women, so I never even looked at them that way.

[Maul]

Yeah, you don't.

[Rory]

So I'm not sure. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe there could have been a time where that scenario.

[Maul]

I'm not saying we got to go somewhere and have. I'm just saying we not cousins.

[Damaris]

Let's stop. I was. I found out I started dating this guy. Never had sex with him, but we had started, like, talking to each other. I don't even want to say dating. And, like, we found out we were cousins, and we were, like, trying to. Like, we did the digging. Like, we started calling our parents. Like, it's just like, play cousins, right? And they was like, no, nigga. Like, your parents are first fucking cousins, dog. Like, it's clipped for you, Cosmos removed. Yeah, we were sad, bro. We were really sad about that shit.

[Maul]

You were sad that y'all was real cousins.

[Damaris]

He still. He still.

[Maul]

See, I think that's crazy. Well.

[Damaris]

Cause we liked each. Like, we did like each other, but then we thank God nothing ever happened. We never kissed or anything like that, but it was like, that nigga still be coming out my pictures. Like, cousin.

[Maul]

Cousin. Yeah, I know. See, you got to watch somebody like that.

[Rory]

That's like calling her twin when you try to fuck. That's my twin.

[Maul]

Yeah. Like, nah, nah. We not doing that. You ain't doing. We not cousins. Don't do that.

[Rory]

I told one of y'all off mic when I did my 23andMe shit, that I was going through it, and there was a few. Few little yoinks in there, and I was looking like, all right. Fourth cousin once removed. I went through the chart. I'm like, all right, man. We shared, like, great, great, great grandmother, sister.

[Maul]

It's all good.

[Rory]

That's all good.

[Maul]

That's all good. You know the white shit. No, I know some. I know some of us that did that, too, though.

[Damaris]

Really?

[Maul]

Absolutely. For sure. It happens. We not cousins. I'm talking about. We have no blood. Don't give me that Damaris. We're not cousins. But if.

[Damaris]

But if Auntie and Unc was. So listen, because I've had some cousins where it's like, my uncle was dating this girl for 10 fucking years. He damn near raised her child. That was my cousin. And then they. Bro, but she's still around. Cousin's still around. You can't grow up and then try to hit on Me? That's weird. We related.

[Rory]

Yeah, we.

[Damaris]

That's weird.

[Rory]

All right. My, my.

[Maul]

But what you mean, grow up, though? Like, if I only seen you.

[Damaris]

This nigga.

[Maul]

No, no, I'm saying. I'm saying if I only seen you on, like, every Thanksgiving.

[Damaris]

No, I mean, like, in the summers, we played together. You was there at least Thanksgiving and Easter. Thanksgiving, Easter. And in the summer, we playing. We cousins.

[Rory]

I. And again, I'm trying to.

[Maul]

No, no, no, no.

[Rory]

Just say you want to your cousin.

[Maul]

No, no, no, no. That's not. That's not. That's not what I'm saying.

[Rory]

That's the vitilago.

[Maul]

I'm just trying to figure out. I'm just trying to figure out, because it's like, it got to be some type of. Like, we gotta. We gotta revise these rules, man.

[Damaris]

That girl gotta be fine. Maul is up.

[Maul]

No, I'm not even talking. It's past her. I'm just saying, in general, like, we gotta. When does it stop? Like, when do we stop acting like we really cousins and when you want to be. No, I'm just saying, if I only saw you, like, on the holiday. Come on, fam. What are we doing here?

[Damaris]

All right, you got brothers and sisters you only see on the holiday. They still your brothers and sisters.

[Maul]

That's different, though. That's blood. I'm talking about no blood. We ain't got no blood in our. We just. Your mother and my mother was close friends growing up. Like, you come to certain events the family had. We see each other. Oh, okay. Cool. You know, once you get to high school, you don't see that girl no more. She got her own life. You in high school now. Now you got your own. Y'all may see each other at a funeral.

[Rory]

Maybe.

[Maul]

Maybe, you know, when it gets to, like, I only seen at the funeral, and then if you having, like, baby showers or a baby shower, look at.

[Rory]

Maul using grief as an aphrodisiac.

[Maul]

I'm just saying, man, we gotta revive. Let's revise these rules.

[Damaris]

Y'all ever got some funeral pussy?

[Maul]

What do you mean? Like, after a funeral?

[Rory]

Yeah, of course not. My cousin. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Thank God.

[Maul]

Of course.

[Damaris]

You saying of course, like, that's just normal shit.

[Maul]

I'm just saying because it's a lot of, you know, it's women around that, you know, just friends of the family. Like, hey, how you doing? You know, I mean, condolences, prayers, and all of that.

[Damaris]

They got the black dress, then you got the repass.

[Maul]

You know, the dj. You got the Food, Little drink. Drink. Yeah, you got. We outside, you know, we all talking, laughing memories. And after eating, then it's like, oh, where you live at?

[Damaris]

You live up there?

[Maul]

Yeah. I gotta drive that way. Yeah, I drop her off. No problem.

[Rory]

All right, after hookah, henny, and wings, people are now we drawing the line at repass pasta.

[Damaris]

Nah, after. After repass, cold ZD and cold fried chicken wings is crazy.

[Rory]

Why?

[Maul]

Why is that? See, why is that crazy?

[Rory]

Because.

[Damaris]

What, like, you not grieving. Like, he had cancer.

[Maul]

We was expecting it. Like, now, if it's my cousin that got hit by a car, that's different. That's some tragic. But, like, this was battling cancer for seven years. He's a warrior.

[Rory]

Let's salute him.

[Maul]

Send them off in the sunset. But I'm horny. Like, I'm trying to, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, if it was me in that box and he met shorty, he be trying to knock it out, too.

[Rory]

Listen, I was.

[Maul]

You got to know who died, who funeral we at. He would want me to. That's my man right there.

[Rory]

I was sad when my grandmother passed, but she was 93 with dementia.

[Maul]

What are we talking about?

[Rory]

It was only a matter of time. She lived a beautiful life.

[Maul]

Like, listen, we gonna send granny on into the. Into the sunset. And what time you ready to. You know, I mean, what time we leaving? Let's get out of here.

[Rory]

How early can you make a move on your girl when she's grieving?

[Maul]

It depends on who it is.

[Rory]

I think that day. Nah, a distraction.

[Maul]

If it's like, again, if it's tragic, some shit that just happened, you know.

[Damaris]

People dying from cancer is tragic too, right?

[Maul]

Yeah, but it's like, if this nigga fought for seven years, it's like, yo, fam.

[Damaris]

But they gave him six months to live.

[Rory]

He's staying alive.

[Damaris]

Seven years.

[Maul]

That's what I'm saying.

[Rory]

You had seven years to grieve. How about this crying shit?

[Maul]

Yo, they gave him six months, and he's been seven years. This nigga's a soldier. We gotta. We gotta honor him and Dennis. But it ain't gonna be sad. It's gonna like, yo, he fought.

[Damaris]

Yo, m, please.

[Maul]

Right or wrong. Now, if it's somebody that we was just with, God forbid, because I've been a situated drive home and he get into a car accident. Tragic. We up, like, damn. We was just together. But if I watched this man fight cancer for seven years, and they gave him six months seven years ago to live, we gotta. It's A part. It's a celebr. That's a celebration of life. This nigga fought.

[Rory]

Okay, so how many. How many days after the car accident?

[Maul]

Nah, you'll be fucked up for a while. One of your friends died in a car accident. That shit is. I don't even think your dick work after that. Like, if it's your man, like, your homie, homie, you can't get horny after that.

[Rory]

Maybe this is a mental health topic because I've just been so depressed my entire life that I. I fuck when I'm sad all the time.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's kind of like.

[Rory]

It's not really gonna change.

[Damaris]

That's my distraction.

[Maul]

You when you sad, that's my distraction. Oh, you are psychos.

[Rory]

I had. Some of my worst bodies are. Because I was sad. And. Yeah, you try to do this.

[Maul]

Yo, being sad and trying to be horny at the same time. How does that work?

[Damaris]

It's a distraction. I've been so angry and upset with a. And still, like, slept with him just for the distraction. I wanted to distract myself from him. And it was still. That was that. I would rather feel the sex than feel the feelings.

[Maul]

Yo, that is.

[Rory]

That was a beautiful bar.

[Damaris]

That's not healthy. That's not healthy.

[Rory]

That was. That was gorgeous.

[Damaris]

It's the truth, though.

[Maul]

Having sex when you angry at the dude, like, because you rather feel the feeling of sex than what you're mad at.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Awful.

[Rory]

This is why Better help doesn't have you on the ads, bro. You just don't understand sadness.

[Maul]

No, I do.

[Rory]

Like, be pretty common.

[Maul]

No, I'm saying be sad. Be that. Don't try to be sad and horny.

[Damaris]

Like, sometimes people don't want to feel the sadness.

[Rory]

Yeah, some people are. Are so deep in the sadness with a partner that they're just trying to find the happiness and height and distraction of it. We're great sexually, but, I mean, if you want, chemistry is great there. So let's please avoid this tragic situation that we're in and just go with. It's not healthy.

[Damaris]

Because if I go home and actually think about how I feel about you, we're gonna have to break up. And I don't feel like going through that right now.

[Rory]

It's not a healthy strategy. We're not. Yeah.

[Maul]

So why not, like, go work out or something? Like, why go to the.

[Damaris]

I am working out.

[Rory]

Yeah, but that ain't worked out.

[Damaris]

You ever worked out, Ma. Well, you do work out, so.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You ever worked out is a crazy question.

[Damaris]

You know, when you Work. See, when I work out, I think. I don't want to think. I be on that treadmill thinking a million 18 different thoughts. I don't want to think. When I'm in there, I'll be on.

[Maul]

That shit feeling chest pains, hoping I ain't a heart attack.

[Damaris]

It's different.

[Maul]

That's what my thinking is.

[Rory]

Cause you unk.

[Maul]

I'm like, damn, I'm out of shape. But is this. Is this it? This is where I end?

[Damaris]

Like, is this help? Like, is this it?

[Maul]

Like, should I get off of this?

[Rory]

Okay. And in the event that that happened, I would say, yo, Mall knew what he was doing on that treadmill, I'd the next day.

[Maul]

See, that's crazy.

[Damaris]

That's what. That's what you want.

[Maul]

You're dying from a heart attack.

[Rory]

You had a great life. You knew what you was doing on that treadmill.

[Maul]

Rory, if I die from a heart attack and you have sex the night of my funeral, I'm haunting you every day of your life. I'm knocking over in your kitchen every night. You ain't gonna fit you. What if you gonna have to move?

[Damaris]

What if he crying while he in it?

[Maul]

Oh, no, that's some psycho. I got to leave him alone. Like, that's. I'm like, well, he's sicker than I thought he.

[Rory]

But that. But then it would contradict all of M's morals, cuz if he's in that room haunting me while I'm. That's gay. What? What you doing? What you looking at me for, bro?

[Damaris]

You want to see my dick even in the afterlife?

[Maul]

Now he going to call me a gay ghost? Like, now. Now I'm a homosexual ghost and right. See, this is crazy. I'm just laughing because you try to have sex the day I died is. Wow, you're dead.

[Rory]

That ain't your choice.

[Maul]

You think if you died tomorrow, I would have sex this week you would call me gay?

[Rory]

If I made any sexual decision based off you, that's a fact.

[Maul]

But I'm just saying, if you die, this. You think I'm having sex.

[Rory]

The week you die, I turn my girl away. Like, nah, I can't do it tonight, man. We gotta think about more. You would look at me like, yeah, that's word I can't say.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Damaris]

If I die, you niggas better not fuck for a while, man.

[Maul]

Listen, I'm taking your sister right to the crib, yo.

[Damaris]

You.

[Maul]

I ain't gonna lie. I'm saying she might just need some.

[Rory]

You got a Few friends. I didn't dm just out of respect.

[Maul]

Yeah, you gone.

[Damaris]

That's crazy.

[Maul]

I would ask your sister, like, yo, yo, you good. You know what I'm saying? You need a ride home. You straight. You know what I mean?

[Damaris]

You need a ride home. You in her city. Yeah, you need a ride home.

[Maul]

She might still might need to ride the other car she came in. Might be full. Like, yo.

[Rory]

And I would use the crazy grief Riz. Like, yo, let's. We should just be together tonight. Because I need to be next to someone that felt the same way about Damaris that I did. Like, even if we just sit in silence, we both have the same full heart for her. So it'd be nice to be around someone.

[Damaris]

But if I say that to Hop, I'm wrong, right? If Ma died from a heart attack, I say that to Hop. I'm wrong.

[Maul]

No, not at all.

[Damaris]

I'm wrong, right?

[Maul]

Not at all. I'm not one of those.

[Rory]

Why you bring Hop into this?

[Maul]

No, not at all.

[Damaris]

I love Hop.

[Rory]

Fucking Hop after Maul's funeral is fucking insane.

[Maul]

This one, man, you know? Listen, live life, man. Have fun. Because if it was me, I'd do it. Y'all know how I went out. If it's me, I'd do it. So go ahead, have fun.

[Rory]

Hey, Hop. You ain't had no seat on your bicycle, and now you fucking Damaris after mall's funeral.

[Maul]

Yeah, Real shit. While y'all playing. Fucking right.

[Damaris]

Yo, how did we get here? Okay.

[Rory]

We were supposed to talk about snl. I don't know how the fuck we just got down this path.

[Maul]

Snl. Dave Chappelle. So Dave Chappelle hosted SNL picture and.

[Rory]

Leaving the Repass and seeing Hop and Damaris.

[Damaris]

You asked me if I need a ride.

[Maul]

Taking that ride home.

[Rory]

It's a Uber.

[Maul]

Yeah. I'm going the same way.

[Damaris]

Big Biggs would snatch me by my mother, hear, and pull me out the car. He would violate.

[Maul]

I know he wouldn't.

[Damaris]

He won't play Hate for what?

[Maul]

Me? Them niggas know how I gave it up. Nobody's doing that. It's okay.

[Rory]

No, what is even funnier in this scenario is that Damaris may think that she about to get some dick and Hop take her to the studio to listen to Mad Lib beats.

[Maul]

I got Hop twisted.

[Rory]

Hop going right to engine room to play you some beats.

[Maul]

He gonna play you some beats, all right? He gonna get right in that engine room. You go ahead and think that you rather go up there and hear some.

[Damaris]

Unreleased Kanye verses shout out to Hop and Biggs. This is all.

[Maul]

No, that's a fact. Shout out. Don't think you go in the Edge room to listen to some music. I'm gonna let you know what he be doing.

[Rory]

Yo, snitching on your brother over a hypothetical studio.

[Maul]

Who ain't in the studio? Who doesn't?

[Rory]

I've never in the studio, but I don't really get pussy.

[Maul]

All right, man. All right. I know. I know. What I know. You never get. I know. Dave Chappelle, snl, bro.

[Rory]

Wait, why is it crazy to say I haven't fucked in a studio?

[Maul]

I'm just saying. All right, man. All I said was. Okay. I told you 20, 25. I want to hear all the lies.

[Damaris]

All the lies.

[Maul]

I'm here for it.

[Rory]

Wait. I would in a studio if I had the opportunity.

[Maul]

I know you would, but I haven't. No, I know.

[Rory]

Well, who am A Child?

[Maul]

I have no idea. I have no idea.

[Damaris]

Okay, that. Clean that up. You mean Yanni?

[Rory]

Oh, I didn't even.

[Maul]

Oh, yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. Child.

[Damaris]

Child's real name is Yanni. He's a grown man.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Maul]

And still clean that up because that's like crazy. Crazy to pull him into that.

[Rory]

All right.

[Maul]

It's odd.

[Damaris]

Okay, let's clean. Okay, let's.

[Rory]

I have not had the opportunity to in the studio. I definitely would.

[Maul]

I know.

[Rory]

Have you fucked in the studio?

[Maul]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Damaris]

Nigga don't make no music. Who you?

[Rory]

He was in baseline and just was like, bro, I need to use this room.

[Damaris]

Yo, how you the guest in the studio Fucking.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's how it happens sometime.

[Rory]

That's out. All right, How'd it happen?

[Maul]

It's in the session. You meet a girl in a session.

[Rory]

It was just you and her in the session.

[Maul]

No, I said, you meet a girl in the session and, you know, y'all start hitting it off, laughing, you know, talking, whatever, whatever. And let's.

[Rory]

Let's go to the B room.

[Maul]

Yeah. One thing lead to another. Nobody, he ain't nobody. Ain't laying vocals right now. Just track is playing. Engineer went to go get something to eat. Let's go right there. Yeah, it happens.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

I ain't got it like that.

[Maul]

You spend nine, ten hours in the studio, like, for weeks at a time, you think somebody ain't getting in.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but why the Was you in the studio? Not. You don't rap.

[Maul]

That's why. My rap.

[Damaris]

You was just there, head nodded nine times.

[Rory]

Why was she there?

[Maul]

You know the vibes the energy, okay? You gotta have. You gotta have pretty women in your session. See, that's what's wrong. That's why a lot of these niggas is trash. Now. They ain't got no pretty women in their sessions. Bunch of stink that ain't wash their ass and wash their face in two days. But they got the glick. They call it the Glick.

[Damaris]

The Glock.

[Maul]

The Blick.

[Rory]

The Blick.

[Maul]

They got the blick on them.

[Damaris]

We old as.

[Maul]

Yeah, they got the blick. Yeah, they know. They know it ain't no women in there. You ain't got no women in your sessions. That's the problem now.

[Rory]

That is definitely the problem.

[Maul]

Yeah, y'all ain't got no women in your sessions. Ain't no women don't like this. Yeah, y'all in here making music for each other. You is perked up. Drunk, bisexual.

[Rory]

What that got to do with anything?

[Maul]

Yeah, these be.

[Damaris]

He said that like, asap, Rocky.

[Maul]

Yeah, like, y'all. Like, we gonna act like. We gonna act like we don't know that these dudes is bisexual out here. Like, come on, man. What are we talking about here? But anyway, 20, 25. I'm here for the lies.

[Rory]

Like, Rocky, too. Like, he thought he was saying something like homo.

[Maul]

I don't care. But it's like. Let's call it what it is.

[Rory]

Listen, but how you act on that after, like, drugs and you just. You think drugs take you to.

[Damaris]

No. Bisexual.

[Maul]

Yo, bro, we're not going to act like these. Come on.

[Rory]

Yeah, I know. I mean, I. I think so.

[Maul]

Absolutely. You know so.

[Rory]

And I just think it's funny that that type of music, you're so. It's not for women. It's actually for, like 15 year old white kids. That's why it's the music that you're.

[Damaris]

That's why Cash Cobain buying the concert tickets.

[Maul]

That's why Cash Cobain is a hero.

[Rory]

He does.

[Maul]

Yeah. We gotta bring some women around here, man. Y'all, it's too many dudes and too many guns, man. Ain't got enough women in here.

[Damaris]

Sexy drill.

[Maul]

Yeah, exactly. See? Exactly. Exactly. There you go.

[Rory]

And I just feel like having sex in a studio is just a lawsuit waiting to happen. It's a workplace. Can't be in the workplace.

[Damaris]

Not if both of us don't work there.

[Maul]

If I rented this. This session, this studio out, and I have a girl in here with me, and she wants to go in the booth and. And Felicia, me, I'm not. I don't care what that lawsuit.

[Rory]

I'm saying, like, not the chick that's just there to be at the studio. I'm saying, like, if you're working with an artist, I just feel like that's a lawsuit waiting to happen.

[Maul]

Depends on who the artist is.

[Rory]

Go on.

[Maul]

No, it just depends on who the artist is. Right. If you and the artist got a relationship, y'all cool. Y'all know what you know. Yeah, it's okay.

[Rory]

Of course.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But I just feel like that leads to way too much chatter.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

Rory, that producer, be artists in the studio, you know, like, nah, that's gonna. That'll even ruin a rep of even trying to work with other people. Like, he'd be artists.

[Maul]

You think. You think producers, artists ruined their reputation?

[Rory]

I think that they'll let you.

[Maul]

The producers will let you know who they are.

[Rory]

And I'm saying all, like, consensual. I still think that.

[Maul]

What is he talking about? Producers pop out with the chicks. They. That. What are you talking about?

[Rory]

First of all, they. They DMing IG chicks that make music.

[Maul]

Exactly.

[Rory]

A list RTO. I got a beat.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

No, you don't. You're trying to.

[Maul]

Right? Yeah, we know what this is.

[Rory]

And then we'll make sure that Warner doesn't clear it.

[Maul]

Exactly.

[Rory]

But no, there's definitely reputations. Kind of back to our conversation of making the girl feel scared on the subway platform. There's producers that have a reputation. Not on some non consensual shit, but they fuck the artists that they work with. So there'll be women that be like, no, I'm. I'm cool. I don't even want to go in that. That energy. If it's a sexual place like that. That's a thing.

[Maul]

I think that only happens if the producer doesn't actually turn the girl into a star. If he has a reputation for sleeping with. With artists, but he's turning them into stars, that ain't stopping women from doing a record with him.

[Rory]

Oh, no. I mean, I agree there.

[Maul]

Yeah. It's not.

[Damaris]

You're still over it. Oh.

[Rory]

I mean, classic. I was about to go there of like, I know justice brought London in there, then realized what was going on was like. And then heard the music and was like, all right, forget it.

[Maul]

Roll this up. Let's roll this out. Great.

[Rory]

If this is what it takes.

[Maul]

Great music. Great music. That's a fact.

[Rory]

All right, so somehow we got on the biggest tangent. I did want to talk about SNL and Dave hosting.

[Maul]

Dave Chappelle hosted SNL, which Rory watched live.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Maul]

11Pm what did you think about his. The monologue?

[Rory]

I really liked it. It started off a little slow. I'll put it this way. I think it was the double album that could have been condensed to one and it would have been a classic. But I did absolutely love everything about that monologue. Okay, but yeah, it could have been condensed a bit. But Chappelle. I don't just let Chappelle go, even if it is 17 minutes long. I don't care about trimming the fat in that regard. Go ahead.

[Maul]

When is the last time we watched somebody host SNL and was like, blown away by their monologue like a comedian? For me, it's been a while.

[Rory]

It was probably Chappelle the only. And I'm repeating myself. Sorry, everyone, but I'm never gonna stop talking about this. Chappelle's monologue that was taken down from SNL's YouTube page.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

About a certain religion that we're not allowed to discuss. I think that was one of the best monologues I've ever seen in my entire life. And it's the only monologue that's ever been taken down by snl, ever. That was the last time I was blown away by something.

[Maul]

I was surprised to see Chappelle hosting SNL again so soon.

[Rory]

I was shocked to see it because they took his monologue down.

[Maul]

He thought that was different. Yeah.

[Rory]

And I'm actually shocked Chappelle doesn't bring that up more or anyone else for that matter. It's one of like the quietest secrets in front of your face that that was taken down. I'm shocked that Chappelle was okay with that and would even talk to Lorne Michaels. And maybe it wasn't a Lauren Michaels thing. Maybe it was just an NBC thing in general. Yeah, but to even go back after they do that, I would definitely feel the fucking way.

[Maul]

But. But you gotta understand what he did with this monologue. He kinda, you know, gave little. He told the line a little bit in this newer monologue with that same type of conversation.

[Rory]

In what way?

[Maul]

I mean, he ended it with, you know, if you're gonna pray for people displaced in the Palisades, you should also pray for people that's displaced in Palestine as well. So he kinda, you know, he knew what he was doing.

[Rory]

He co signed Hamas is what you're saying. No, that's because that's how they view it when you say anytime you care about anyone in Palestine. Oh, so you love Hamas? No, no, no. I just don't think babies should be killed.

[Maul]

In Palestine. So he knew what he was doing in his monologue. Obviously, they had to talk beforehand, and he knew where he could take it, and he couldn't take it. But I just thought it was interesting to see him hosted, even though that was. That was almost a year ago, right? A little over a year. So I guess it wasn't that soon.

[Rory]

With his last model.

[Maul]

Yeah, that was a while.

[Damaris]

Two years.

[Rory]

Two years, maybe.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And, I mean, I think it was interesting that he said Lauren Michaels wanted him to do around. It wasn't inauguration, it was the election. Right. Chappelle said that he had reached out, I'm pretty sure, and said no, and they got Bill Burr to do it instead. But I would have preferred him around the election time with this. But it is funny that they just call him when Trump is doing some shit, and I think it's to, like, really distract us in a good way, because comedy, we just need distractions sometimes. He ended his monologue with the Palestine quote, but he also ended it similar to how he did the first time he did SNL after Trump was elected. Not so much saying, I'm giving Trump a chance, because that's what he did say on the first one and got killed for it. He remixed it and kind of was on the side of like, listen, I don't want him to fail. Like, we're all in this country together. We should hope that he cares about everyone else. And I didn't see the same reaction. Which is it? Because the times have changed and people are just fed up, and we're all on that side now.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I think that's what it is.

[Rory]

Well, while we're recording this right now, the inauguration is happening.

[Maul]

Yes.

[Rory]

I mean, listen, it's. It's a great day for whites. Trump is doing this on MLK Day. And, I mean, I apologies, Damaris, that the whites told you to come in today. I just.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Got me working for the white man on MLK Day is crazy as.

[Maul]

I mean, I'm not white and I'm working. I'm here.

[Damaris]

You own the company.

[Maul]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

You don't really got a choice, like.

[Damaris]

Your name and the title. Like, you don't really got a choice.

[Maul]

But, you know, I could have said, yo, we not working today.

[Rory]

Okay. We know more.

[Damaris]

Why didn't you? The.

[Maul]

Why are we here? Yeah, why not?

[Rory]

Look at it this way.

[Maul]

I had a dream, too.

[Rory]

Maul loves Don Don so much. He is working on this day instead of being in DC to support.

[Maul]

Y'all know, I wanted to be there.

[Rory]

Yeah, like you got some credit there.

[Maul]

Oh, man. Y'all know I wanted to be there.

[Rory]

So I didn't see much of the inauguration yet because again, we are recording. I did see a clip that Trump vows, which he's vowed a lot of shit, especially the last time it didn't go through with it.

[Maul]

Every president does. Don't do that. Don't just make it a Trump thing.

[Rory]

Fair.

[Maul]

I'm talking my shit. My guy's in office. I'm talking my shit now. Yeah.

[Rory]

Trump vows to release the jfk, RFK and MLK assassination files as soon as he's in office. Now, he did say last time he was going to do that with the JFK files. Then he read it and was like, nah, never mind.

[Maul]

I mean, he spoke to. Why he didn't. He definitely addressed.

[Rory]

He's gonna look nuts if he doesn't because of his ties with the Kennedy family. Now, like, that was a big thing with RFK Jr. As well. Like, Trump agrees that he'll release these files about my pops. If he doesn't, this is gonna get nuts. And I think he does a lot of this for publicity to get that headline. And we're going to get those files with nothing but redacted black lines everywhere. Like, you're not releasing these files.

[Damaris]

I don't think we'll ever see those files. I think the CIA will fudgeing, knock Donald Trump's fucking head off before we ever see those files.

[Rory]

Here's the trial.

[Maul]

They tried.

[Rory]

You're not wrong. They were Mrs. Actually, I don't think they tried because if they actually tried, they wouldn't have missed a fact. A fact they would have never missed. You know, they created a magic bullet to kill jfk. What are you talking about?

[Maul]

Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that.

[Rory]

The bullet went around inside and out.

[Maul]

Don't do that. Don't do that. But yes to what you're saying they.

[Rory]

Took Oswald from Cuba and said, here's magic.

[Maul]

See, this is why you can't start talking about this type of conspiracy.

[Damaris]

I know. That was. That's my bad.

[Maul]

Go too far.

[Rory]

Too far. Is the whole thing not called the magic bullet?

[Maul]

No. Absolutely, you're right.

[Rory]

No, there was obviously somebody on the grass. You know, bullets don't do.

[Maul]

No, they. I can promise you they don't.

[Rory]

That's why it was not that good of a shot.

[Maul]

I like the movie Wanted to. Those bullets don't do that. They don't do that.

[Rory]

If you just go like that.

[Damaris]

No not the boomerang bullet.

[Rory]

But I do think Trump, I'll even give him credit, I think he went into the first presidency saying, I am going to release those JFK files. And I think the CIA stepped in and was like, no, the fuck you not. And Trump was like, bet. My bad. I'm curious to see how this.

[Maul]

This goes.

[Rory]

Not that it's like the most pressing issue with everything going on right now, but we can all comfortably say we think our government had something to do with JFK's assassination and MLK's assassination. I think that's. It's a pretty. That's not my tinfoil hat.

[Maul]

Yeah, but that's not even a debate anymore.

[Rory]

So in releasing that, the value of the proof we already know, I think is important to the masses of like, yeah, our government lies to us all the time.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but that's not. You can. Yes, I get that it's important, but from their side, and maybe this is just because I watch too much scandal and I be paying too much attention to shit. But like, one of the main things to run a country is like, the people need to believe somewhat in the government. We already are breaking away from that. We have been for a while. Where the people don't trust the government. If you go and throw hardcore solid proof that the government will murder its own American citizens when they're fighting for progression in the country that will. There's always the chance of an uprising. And if we've ever been at the cusp of that, where they're now that. That if at any time we couldn't get them files, it would be now.

[Rory]

I mean, they've had.

[Maul]

So you don't think that he's going to release the file?

[Damaris]

No, I don't.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

I think we'll get some redacted. Weird. But I don't know. I mean, I think the government's probably banking on just the stupidity of us as human beings and the masses of America, which they bank on to control this entire country. We have actual proof, not a conspiracy, that they staged an entire act to get us into Vietnam. Like, that's a fact. And they put that out and there's no outrage.

[Maul]

People don't care.

[Rory]

So I don't know, like the JFK thing, I don't know. Is it really going to affect the country?

[Maul]

That's why. To what Demaris is saying, that's why I think it will be released, because I don't think people care. I think the files will be released and we will know exactly what happened and how JFK was killed and how Martin Luther King and all. I think we'll get all of that. And it's not gonna change nothing. It's not gonna change anything. Nothing is gonna change. People be fake outraged for four hours on social media. Let TikTok go down tomorrow again and see how many people are talking about the files that came out. More people gonna be talking about TikTok being banned than the MLK files.

[Damaris]

Well, they're gonna blame TikTok being banned on the files being released. Cause they don't talk.

[Maul]

People don't care, man. And that's why I laugh. Anytime it's around election time, everybody get all upset. Like, everybody want to cancel Nelly and Snoop and Rick Ross. Now, cut this shit. Yo. You know y'all don't. Y'all gonna have y'all asses right there at Nelly's residency in Vegas shaking y'all ass in a couple of months. Cut the shit.

[Damaris]

I don't. I don't know whether I'm. I'm. You know, I'm very not at all pro Donald Trump, but I also don't blame people for wanting to perform at a. For a president's inauguration or the inauguration celebrations. As an artist, I wouldn't do it, but I can understand why that's such a huge, monumental.

[Rory]

They're not performing at the actual inauguration. Yeah, that would be like if you got a gig to host a party during super bowl weekend, and you look at it like you performed at halftime.

[Maul]

You got to walk through.

[Rory]

He went to, like, the Crypto bowl to perform. Yeah, you can turn that down. There's. There's nothing honorable that you could tell your grandparents. Like, yeah, I performed at a presidential inauguration. Like, before politics. You did some for. You hosted some to a bunch of people that didn't even know the songs you were doing. You took a check. Like, can we call it a spade? A spade.

[Maul]

You took a check.

[Damaris]

Okay. But this is my thing, so if.

[Rory]

It'S Nelly doesn't always need every check. Ross don't need every check. Snoop definitely doesn't need every.

[Damaris]

Said, it's not the inauguration. It's not the inauguration. It's a check for a party for all these white people that's in town to celebrate the inauguration.

[Rory]

But you were saying that you could see why an artist. Fuck politics. Would just want to be involved in something like that. Yeah, this is some bullshit crypto ball that is attached to an administration that all these people didn't support before and said crazy things about. You are now you're check Chasing at this point to me, but I don't know.

[Maul]

I don't know if Nelly has ever. Has Nelly ever, like, openly spoke about Trump?

[Rory]

Like, and probably not, but now Snoop.

[Maul]

Snoop, on the other hand, Snoop been going crazy. Snoop used to go crazy on Trump. Not only was he going crazy on Trump, anybody that supported Trump, anybody have voted for Trump, Snoop has some crazy shit to say.

[Rory]

Actually, I don't know if I could even be mad at Ross now I think about it. He did say, on the apple of my eye, I'm happy Donald Trump became the president because we have to destroy before we whatever the fuck he said. Yeah, great record, but that wasn't really a pro Trump thing. It was actually we need to destroy the world now that he is a president so we can rebuild it. Yeah, that's not. Check, check. Come on, man.

[Maul]

But I missed check.

[Rory]

I know you didn't.

[Maul]

Behold who don't chase check.

[Damaris]

I'm about to say you throwing dirt on check chasing.

[Maul]

Everybody's chasing the check.

[Rory]

This one, literally everyone is attached to something that's much more than a check. So is that worth the money? Is what I'm really asking? That is what that check is attached to something that is much more than the money. You are now aligning yourself with somebody that most of your community does not fuck with. Is that worth the $30,000 that maybe you got?

[Maul]

Yeah, to them.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

You never know. Who the fuck need 30,000?

[Rory]

I need $30,000 for them.

[Maul]

Yeah, it's worth it.

[Damaris]

But my thing is why I'm not more than $30,000. That was shady.

[Maul]

But why are people upset?

[Rory]

Wait, why is that shitty?

[Maul]

Like, why are people upset? It's like, that's the part that I'm just sitting back laughing when I see everybody on social media, you know, trying to cancel Nelly. And it's like, but what are y'all. Y'all are upset. There wasn't nobody. So people were crazy. If they were trying to cancel Megan for performing for Kamala or trying to cancel Beyonce for going up there and.

[Damaris]

Endorsing Kamala, well, you know that who our. Who their audience is, you know, who the majority of their audience supports. So that's. It's different. You're black and you're in the entertainment industry. You're fan base is full of liberals. So, yeah, they know who their target audience is.

[Maul]

Yeah, but. But this is what people fail to forget. Trump was a part of, very much a part of, like, a lot of rappers, athletes, always fucked with Trump before this whole presidency shit came about. Everybody fucked with Trump. So that's why it's funny now to see people like no, we ain't supposed. I'm like, bro, he was. Everybody was fucking with this dude. Literally. Yeah, but that was a staple name in versus bars. I stayed at the Trump. That was just a name that people.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but so was Diddy. People like people can change their perception about people. The masses can change their perception.

[Maul]

Snoop is one of them.

[Rory]

Are you taking. We all established we all need 30k. Are you taking $30,000 to do a vlog on your YouTube channel to co sign Trump on the day of the inauguration?

[Damaris]

You do a vlog cosigning. Don't do that. You saying that that's co signing. That's not co signing. They performed. It's not co signing. That's not co signing.

[Rory]

You doing mall semantics right now. But I mean that's not co signing. You are, you are performing the light.

[Maul]

Baby D. Come on.

[Rory]

You are performing Come on over. At the inaug inauguration weekend event for Donald Trump. How is that not a cosign.

[Maul]

Stand strong baby.

[Rory]

So Chris then apologize to Chriset Michelle.

[Damaris]

Michelle performed at the inauguration.

[Rory]

This is the inauguration weekend events. Okay, Crypto ball.

[Damaris]

If I get invited to the Grammys party. A Grammys pre party. Did I go to the Grammys? No, I went to the pre party. Plenty of hoes be at the pre party. Don't mean I was at the Grammys.

[Rory]

And if the Grammys said Mexicans are rapists, would you go to the pre party?

[Maul]

Yeah, because I know who throwing it.

[Rory]

Who said who throwing it?

[Damaris]

Who gonna be there?

[Rory]

No, I get why, I mean, nah.

[Damaris]

But like I get, I get why people are upset. I'm just saying that I'm not upset. I never know what the people have families to feed. I'm never. People always be like, oh they're rich, they can afford to miss a check. You don't know who the can afford to miss a check. I need to get the out of people's pockets.

[Rory]

I agree. But. But all of us have been in a bind when we needed money and didn't take a certain check even when we needed the money because of what it was like. We've all done that.

[Damaris]

Okay, but he's going to be the. It's not like they were trying like it's election time in the votes matter. He's going to be the president whether I take this $30,000 or not.

[Maul]

Come on over.

[Rory]

So apologize.

[Damaris]

It's the same thing as no, it's the same thing as Dave Chappelle's.

[Rory]

You killed me because I'm the only one still listening to Chrisette Michelle's music. And now all of a sudden, it's okay to do that?

[Damaris]

I never killed you that.

[Maul]

Now you see, I didn't know she was still making.

[Rory]

I scream at the top of my lungs. Blame it on me when I'm in the shower. I love Chrisette Michelle, and y'all shamed me for listening to her. But now it's like, yo, she needed the 200,000 grand.

[Maul]

Why? I never shamed you.

[Damaris]

I didn't shame you.

[Maul]

I never shame.

[Damaris]

I feel like a lot.

[Rory]

First of all, I'm not. If Nelly wants to. If he's co signing Trump for real and likes Trump, that's not my business. That's your. Your vote, man.

[Maul]

Nelly voted for Trump.

[Rory]

I can see that.

[Maul]

So did Snoop. So did the rest of these niggas. Like I told y'all was going to happen before the election. They could say whatever they want publicly and on social media. When it's time to get in that booth and hit that ballot, niggas was voting for Trump, man. Cut the shit. It is what it is. We saw the numbers. She got smoked. Sure, he got smoked.

[Rory]

And all right. I want to speak specifically to the listeners that dislike Mall and think he's maga Mall. Even though we leaned in a joke and all that, you guys won't, like, hear him out right now. He's saying something that is so fucking truthful. All your favorite podcasters, your favorite rappers all quietly voted for Donald Trump.

[Maul]

Of course they did, man. Of course they did. Nobody was.

[Rory]

I watched. I watched podcasters that are so anti Donald Trump and pretend to be this start kikiing when the crypto went up when he got elected, started laughing like, happy with joy, like, oh, yeah. Not he voted for Trump.

[Maul]

I got that moonshot right here on my phone. I got. I got four meme coins.

[Rory]

And here's the thing I'm not about. I'm not about to do this lefty, lefty liberal shit, because I'm not a liberal. I'm not here to alienate. If you voted for Trump, that's your business. And I'm not here to shame you.

[Maul]

And that's always my thing. Whoever you vote for, let people vote for whoever they want to vote for. I wasn't saying people are crazy for voting for Kamala. It's like, all right, that's who you want to vote for.

[Rory]

Cool.

[Maul]

I just knew that not enough people was going to vote for her because people didn't know her. They didn't agree with her policies, they didn't agree with what she was representing. They didn't like that. They wanted to lean more towards Trump's ideas of where the country should just be headed. And that was the bottom line. She's gonna lose. She lost by. It's not even close. It wasn't even close. And like I said, people could say publicly, nah, we stand with the Harris administrator. Okay, when it's time to get in that poll and hit that ballot, I'm telling you, they was not voting for her. I know they weren't.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's all it is.

[Maul]

Well, either way, man, President Trump has. The inauguration is today, if you listen to. Well, it was yesterday, if you're listening. So, yeah, now we have to sit back and see and see how many of these promises are kept and how many lies we were told. That's all you find out in the four years of a president, how many promises are kept and how many lies were told. So that's what it all comes down to. I just think that people calling for Snoop to be canceled and Nelly knows that's like, cut this shit, man. People can perform, they can make a living. You know what I mean? It is what it is. Like people be faked, outraged, and ah, I'm gonna cancel you. Not canceling nobody. Cancel your fucking gym membership that. You ain't been to the gym in three years and they keep charging you every month. Cancel that. That. How about that?

[Damaris]

Shade at me. It's crazy.

[Maul]

I'm just saying, right? Every month. Planet Fitness charging you. You ain't been in yo. 17 months.

[Damaris]

Planet Fitness and LA Fitness. Yeah, waste. Just wasting my money.

[Maul]

Exactly. Cancel that.

[Rory]

Not. Not to backtrack again to snl, but we didn't talk about the balloon sketch with Chappelle. That was hilarious.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

For those that didn't see it at 11:30pm live on Saturday, like the rest of us, Chappelle did a sketch around that balloon YouTube game that I've been trying to get Maul to do on stage because I think it'd be fucking hilarious if he was the girl in this situation. He brought back Silky Johnson from the Haters Bowl. Silky Johnson and Ashley Larry and Ashley Larry.

[Maul]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rory]

And what was Donna Rollings name in Haters Ball? Was it beautiful?

[Maul]

I can't remember.

[Rory]

So, yeah, Donald Rawlings had two characters in this. But. But this was fucking hilarious. Not only Chappelle. I actually want Damaris to speak to this. They called out the women in the first part. Of that sketch, a guy came out with a job, had everything going on for him. All the balloons got popped. Some guy came out after that, said, yo, I got no, no job at all. I'm just trying to fuck what's good. All of them was like, yo, me too.

[Maul]

Me too. I'm trying to fuck too. Yeah.

[Damaris]

At least he was honest, you know.

[Maul]

That never got us nowhere.

[Rory]

Both of them were honest. One just had more going for them. Was probably a better human being than the guy that came out. Was like, yeah, nah, I want to fuck bitches and shoot people.

[Maul]

This is how you got to be a brave soul to go on this balloon pop shit.

[Rory]

Why?

[Maul]

To stand there like. And just. People just look at you and then like, imagine you walk out and then you just hear balloons popping. You haven't said anything. You know what that does to the ego? I walk in a room and just. They just start popping. They balloons pop. That's some of the craziest shit a human could sign up for. Like, yo, I'm gonna go in here. They might start popping balloons. They don't know who I am, my name, nothing. As soon as I walk in, a balloon might be popped. That fucks with you forever. I don't care.

[Rory]

For a young mind, yes, that would definitely hurt. Forever hurt my ego, absolutely.

[Maul]

That fucks you up forever. As you walk in a room and somebody pops a balloon, as soon as they see you, it's like, damn, word. Okay. I put on my best shit too. When I walk in. I got my best shit.

[Rory]

Put a good resume together. Like I'm 23, actually. Kids, the movement, like I'm doing something, it's like, nah, they don't even.

[Maul]

They don't even get to that. They don't even want to. They don't care about that. They don't like the way you look, they don't like the way you walked in, they don't like your walk.

[Rory]

And the poor guy has everything he could control in his life. He's put together. Well, it's not his fault. He's 5 9, right?

[Maul]

And then the girl be 5 2. Talking about, yeah, you know, I like him taller than that.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I always thought that. I actually don't mind a five nine, cuz I'm. I'm five two, five three. Like, I'm. I don't mind a five nine. I dated five'five before.

[Maul]

I regret that you dated somebody that.

[Damaris]

Was five'five I regret that.

[Maul]

That's crazy.

[Rory]

With brown eyes. Or like, it was a girl, it was a man.

[Damaris]

He was either five'five maybe five'six but I'm really thinking five'five Cause I was five'three so I'm really thinking five'five how.

[Maul]

Long was that relationship? And if one of y'all got into the argument, did you go straight to the height?

[Damaris]

No, I didn't do that.

[Maul]

She said lying. I didn't.

[Rory]

Lying.

[Damaris]

No. Cause then. Because once I start clowning you for your height, then I gotta take a long look at myself. And once I do that, I can't.

[Rory]

How women argue and throw insults. You should all look at yourself in the mirror. Like that's where we're drawing the line.

[Damaris]

Nah, but if I say you short ass, then I gotta really think about it. Like, damn, he really a short ass. And I gotta leave. And I didn't want to do that.

[Rory]

And this is why she tried to cancel still beat, though. And I don't understand why. Because if you call me short still beat though.

[Maul]

That's always gonna be the go to though.

[Rory]

No matter now you look nuts. Yeah, like if I look. If I insult a girl, you ugly ass. Be like you. Me though?

[Maul]

Yeah, yeah. Socially lazy.

[Rory]

Still. I was going through something. I was depressed. It was after a funeral.

[Maul]

When you argue with a girl and you start taking accountability, you her whole game plan up. She's like, you bum ass, yo. But I'm working on myself.

[Damaris]

Work faster.

[Maul]

See? Well, why you gotta throw the. On the end of it? See, that's. That's where. That's where you end up with your head in between the fridge and the. In the. And the. What's the name?

[Damaris]

See, in the oven.

[Maul]

Can you go right to. That's what the marriage definitely pushed to swing on her. I know you do. I can tell how you argue.

[Damaris]

No, I don't. I don't. But see, that's my thing. I really don't though. I'm too. I'm.

[Rory]

Your eye. Your right eye just twitched. You do that when you're lying.

[Damaris]

Stop paying attention to me. Weird ass. Weird.

[Maul]

Yo. Korari a weird ass.

[Rory]

You're. You're a friend of how many? Yeah, I noticed things about you not.

[Maul]

Paying attention to her. You weird ass. This mad weird over here. Knowing your tendencies. This know your tendencies.

[Rory]

How you paying attention, Corny?

[Maul]

You know Damaris tendencies?

[Rory]

Yes, the known her for a very long time. You pick up on those things as a friend. Oh my God, I forgot what she was lying about. What you say?

[Damaris]

No, you. I was saying. No, he said that I push to hit me and I'm like, I don't. Cuz I'm not, I'm not gonna. You want to yell? Once you start yelling and screaming, I, I stop. I stop speaking.

[Maul]

Yo, now that we here, yo, is mom and dad okay after that phone call you gave them?

[Damaris]

They. I told you, they both said that I actually caught them both in a bad mood. That's the only reason why I caught them both in a bad mood. Like they were both like pissed off for different reasons too. And I didn't know that until like my sister text me like, girl, you caught them on the wrong day because they, they were already on the phone with each other, like just both having a bad day saying they were having a bad day. So that's why they were both just silent because it was like somebody on the Internet compared it to when like you had a long day at work and you go to walk in your door and you drop your keys. Like it was like that. Like, not right now.

[Maul]

What else? Yeah, like what else could go wrong?

[Damaris]

Yeah, not right now, Damaris. Like it was that type of thing.

[Maul]

I still, I'm still not jacking, but not right now.

[Rory]

Being a call about porn on a live podcast is because it's just like my daughter.

[Damaris]

Like my. Both of their daughters are childish as shit. Like me and my sister are very childish. And we call our parents giggling on the phone, laughing about the dumbest.

[Maul]

That wasn't the time and it just.

[Damaris]

Wasn'T the day and it was just kind of.

[Maul]

All right, that's cool. But your pops are still not supporting that.

[Damaris]

I actually had a phone conversation with him and he says, I will support you through. I don't got to like it. I don't got to with it, but whatever you do, I will support it. I'm not going to watch and cheer you on if you're sitting.

[Rory]

What that mean though? Support it. Yeah, I want to know what that means.

[Damaris]

Support isn't like he's not going to excommunicate me from the family. Like.

[Maul]

Yeah, but if you, if your daughter does porn and I could. Can I speak for you as a father? I don't have. I'm not a father yet, but it's pretty safe to speak.

[Rory]

Yes, let's throw my 2 year old into the scenario.

[Maul]

No, I'm saying you as a, just as a father, being a father that you can, you can resonate with this. You failed as a father if your daughter ends up doing porn. I don't care what nobody says. And I know porn stars. I love them. They're good people. I Have a few friends that are in the adult entertainment industry. Not saying they're bad people, but as a father, if your daughter ends up doing porn, you fail. As a father, if your son ends up in jail for killing somebody, gang banging, you fail. That's a fail as a father.

[Damaris]

So you're comparing being a murderer to being a porn star?

[Maul]

No, no, no, I'm not saying, no, I'm not comparing it. I'm just saying as. As parents, you don't want your kids to end up doing certain things to support, you know, support themselves. You don't want that to happen.

[Damaris]

But this is, but this is the thing, though. If I end up doing porn, like in my. I can only speak for my life. If I end up doing porn, it would only be because I want to, not because I needed to. That's where the support comes in.

[Maul]

Which makes it worse.

[Damaris]

If my parents think was, imagine you.

[Maul]

Had gotta do porn and you do porn. Imagine if I own like 10 fucking 10 hotels and one of my daughters come to me like, yo, dad, you know, I'm going to. I'm moving to la. Think I'm moving to la. I'm like, okay, like dope. Like, what are you pursuing? Like, you gonna get into the, you know, the Hollywood acting? Like, what do you want to do? Model? Like, what do you want to do?

[Rory]

Do?

[Maul]

No, I think I'm gonna. I'm gonna do porn.

[Rory]

Okay, but what if your daughter wanted to get ran through in her own personal time? Would you still be a failure as a father?

[Maul]

Yes.

[Rory]

Okay, I'm just trying to make you consistent.

[Maul]

Yes, you failed as a dad. If your daughter was a gentleman.

[Damaris]

I ran through. Right. So do you guys think that your father's our failure? Well, not your. Do you think that your father's a failure?

[Maul]

My dad?

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Maul]

Yes, he's a failure. Right? My dad's a failure. But my dad. But, you know, he's a loving father, but he wasn't there for a lot of my childhood. But as a man, now I understand he had issues. He had his shit he had to overcome. He had his addictions. He had to.

[Damaris]

But even if your father was still around, you would still be ran through.

[Maul]

Huh?

[Damaris]

Huh? Even if your father was still around, you would still be ran through.

[Maul]

Yeah. That means my pops did something right. If the ladies like me. Yeah. Yeah. My pops, he did something right. My mom did something right. If the ladies like me and they comfortable around me and they feel safe around me, yes, my parents did something right. Right.

[Damaris]

But if the fellas feel Safe around me. My parents failed.

[Maul]

Yes. See, if niggas come to you, my daughters, if niggas go to my daughter room and just start taking their shit off, Yes, I failed. Yes.

[Damaris]

Okay, that's your opinion. That might be society's opinion, but I.

[Rory]

Am ran through because I have abandonment issues and was trying to seek validation and a confirmation on my own ego based off my parents. So, yeah, I'm ran through because of that.

[Damaris]

That's up.

[Rory]

Listen, I wanted to be liked so bad. I tried to as many women and thought that was validation.

[Maul]

Oh, it was just.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah.

[Maul]

I just like.

[Rory]

Because of maybe a failure of abandonment.

[Damaris]

If I have a child and my child, I would never want my child to do porn, obviously.

[Rory]

First of all, I'm not running through.

[Damaris]

Yeah, okay. I would never want my child to do porn, obviously. But if my child did porn because it's what she really, really wanted to do, like she had other options and she really, really wanted to do this. She felt like she would be good at it and this is what she wanted to get her shit off. If my kid is happy. If my kid is happy, then I gotta eat that. I gotta eat this shit and I gotta live with it. You're happy. I done buried too many friends that were like killing themselves at early ages. So, like, if you happy doing what the fuck you doing and you can live with yourself. You wake up in the morning and you happy to go to work, then hoe you a hoe. But hoe you a professional girl.

[Maul]

If you had two kids, if you had a son and a daughter, it would hurt you more if your daughter did porn than if your son did porn.

[Damaris]

No, it wouldn't.

[Maul]

Yes, it would.

[Damaris]

No, it wouldn't.

[Maul]

If your son was in there, some beautiful girls for a living, versus your daughter up there letting some old climb on top of her, breathing all heavy.

[Damaris]

Nah, she the Y N's.

[Maul]

Nah, man, that's even worse. Your daughter let somebody hit on onlyfans with a shiesty on.

[Damaris]

You failed in surprise in comparison to her let a hit with a sheist Dion in an alleyway for free.

[Rory]

It's funny because I agree with you. I just don't like his argument. I think the root of it has to go to why do women become porn stars? Because I don't know if there's a scenario that Damaris is saying where it's like, oh, my daughter had such a healthy upbringing that she just decided she wanted to do porn.

[Maul]

I don't think.

[Rory]

I don't think it does.

[Maul]

I don't think it happens like that.

[Rory]

And I'm not. Again, I don't know porn stars like that.

[Maul]

I never had that talk about, you know, what your. What your father think. You just don't have that conversation. But I'm willing to guess that it wasn't because, yo, I just wanted to get into porn. Like, it's not.

[Rory]

And I'm not shaming any porn star whatsoever because I think plenty of people that have failed households end up doing nastier shit because of it. Just not on camera and ran through. I don't think that there's a girl that came from an extremely healthy household with a supportive father and mother and was like, you know what my craft and passion is? Fucking on camera.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I just don't see that as a thing.

[Maul]

No.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Well, we could disagree. Agree to disagree on that. But I completely understand why y'all don't champion that shit. And I don't think that you're crazy for not championing it. I just.

[Rory]

Personally, I don't want Amara to become a porn star.

[Damaris]

Of course not. I don't think anybody wants their child. I'm just. I'm. The only thing I can think of is I. This world that we in right now. If you happy, baby, be happy. That's all. As long as you're happy.

[Maul]

That's what I'm saying about Snoop and Nelly and them niggas. Y'all want to cancel them. Be happy.

[Damaris]

Listen. Be happy.

[Maul]

They gotta check.

[Damaris]

As long as your happiness is not harming anyone. Do what the you gotta do to be happy. People gonna have something to say no matter what the.

[Maul]

That's. Now. That's a fact. Now, you said something right there, Baby.

[Rory]

D. I will say that. Like, if Amara came to me at 20 years old and said you would want to be a point, I would go, what did I do wrong as a father? Was it not enough soccer?

[Damaris]

You would do the same thing if.

[Rory]

She said she wanted piano recitals. What the.

[Damaris]

You would have said the same thing if she said she wanted to sign up for the military. You would say the same exact thing.

[Rory]

Well, first of all, like, Nelly, I support the troops, so I don't know.

[Maul]

What you're talking about exactly.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

I'm curious. What. What y'all thoughts were with the Tick Tock thing? Because now. Now what? Clip.

[Maul]

I mean.

[Rory]

Cut, Cap, cut. You know, this is going.

[Maul]

This never.

[Rory]

Cap.

[Maul]

This never meant anything to me because I'm not on Tick Tock. Never been on Tick Tock. I do, like, a lot of the Reels that end up on Instagram that are created on Tick Tock. I think people are very creative. No, I think people are very creative on it, but people losing their minds and going crazy yesterday, recording themselves crying and all of this, I think that's why it needed to be banned. People have absolutely lost their minds.

[Damaris]

But I do think a lot of.

[Rory]

People lost their jobs. Yeah, they're crying because of their income.

[Maul]

Okay, get another job.

[Damaris]

There's not a lot of jobs where I can go in my kitchen and say, get ready with me while I make dinner for my house.

[Maul]

Don't like to work. Want to sit home and make content all day. Go out there and do something in America.

[Rory]

Was saying we need more jobs for Americans and then you just cut one.

[Maul]

Yeah, but this ain't a job by they.

[Rory]

They boot. What you mean it's not a job? There's millionaires off Tik Tok.

[Maul]

Of course there are. But I'm just saying, just because the app is. Is gone doesn't mean that people can't still make money is what I'm saying. People were going crazy.

[Rory]

Building a whole community on an app with over a million followers is an extremely hard thing to do and to just get rid. You don't. If YouTube got killed tomorrow, y'all be. Yeah. I'm not saying we couldn't go to another app, but we're now guaranteeing YouTube put a community together for 20 years. If that disappears, I'm just supposed to assume everyone from our community that we built is just gonna go to another app?

[Maul]

No, but they gotta go somewhere. People are going somewhere. Nobody's not gonna stop using social media. We can't agree to that. If there's no TikTok, people are gonna start activating their Snapchat, People gonna start activating their Instagram, people start activating their Twitters.

[Rory]

You are extremely well versed in the CPM shit with advertisers. What certain shit we have to hit and what our price is worth because of the people that come here. You are very, very familiar with that. Let's say tomorrow YouTube stops and we have to go to another app. Do you think we're still getting the same brand deals? Because we're not. No, because they're based off the data that we have. And we'd have to start at square one and not even knowing that all the people that have followed us. Not everyone's a loyal subscriber. Some people are just living their life and like to scroll past some of the that we do. There may not Go to whatever new app YouTube would be. We would lose a lot, and the data would not represent what we get our price for.

[Maul]

Now, I understand that, but I'd cry.

[Rory]

I would be on whatever the new YouTube app is with tears in my eyes saying, yo, what the feel if.

[Damaris]

Somebody went to you was like, ugh, go, go get a real job.

[Maul]

They tell us that anyway.

[Damaris]

They do. But do you think that your job is not a real job?

[Maul]

I think it's work. It's still. It's work, but, I mean, I'm the prototypical job. I wouldn't say it's a job. I don't look at it as a job. It's work, though. You got to put work in for sure. But I don't look at it as a job. Nothing's. I don't look at what we do as a job. I don't. It's work. I look at it as work, but not a job. It's a difference to me. I don't know what you look at it as. It could be a job.

[Damaris]

Oh, it's a job for me. I'm not a business owner. It's definitely a job.

[Maul]

Just because you're not the owner don't mean it's a job. Thought there's a lot of people that don't own where they work at. They don't look at it as a job.

[Damaris]

If you work there, it's a job.

[Maul]

Semantics. Semantics.

[Damaris]

Anyway, people lost their livelihood.

[Rory]

So passionate about this that it doesn't even feel like work.

[Damaris]

Ah.

[Rory]

Is what.

[Damaris]

People lost their livelihood.

[Rory]

I cry to my therapist about this job.

[Damaris]

All regular checks that they were getting. And the majority of people who do social media are not just doing it as their main job, like, go get a real job. They do have a real job. And we're in a recession. It ends is not meeting. So, yeah, I make content on and this content started bringing in $5,000 a month, $7,000 a month, $10,000 a month. I'm feeding my family, and then because of bullshit, it's now gone, and I am losing out on a bunch of money to feed my family. You don't think that that's worth crying? I'm not a fan of people getting on the Internet and crying. But you don't think that's something to cry about.

[Maul]

I just think that people made a living before TikTok and people did. Things were successful before TikTok. I think that people will make a living to be successful after TikTok. All right, we've seen this before.

[Rory]

I'll make it very personal. A girl that I know very well put on her close friends over the weekend. She has another job and she has a 15 year old daughter. At the top of this year, she had gotten her first six figure brand deal because of TikTok. She has a million followers on TikTok. She's like 800 on Instagram. She has a million followers on TikTok. First six figure deals deal she got at the top of this year, she now does not have that deal. You wouldn't cry.

[Maul]

I mean, I honestly, I understand people being kind of like unsure because of something that they had they were depending on. That's gone. I get that part. I don't know if I'm crying about it though, like, because you knew, first of all, you knew it was coming.

[Rory]

That's not true. I still don't know. A lot of right now it's in limbo. Like Tick Tock is saying it's coming back and they don't even know whatever it is.

[Maul]

You knew that this was. It's not like you just woke up yesterday and you went to your TikTok and then that message popped up and you had no idea that any of this was in talks of even happening. Right?

[Rory]

Okay.

[Maul]

So my thing is, people had time. They knew that this date was coming, they knew that.

[Rory]

Clearly the brands didn't even fully understand that. Cause they gave her a deal at the top of this year for six figures and now she doesn't have that.

[Damaris]

This would really go through. Like it's been up in the air even with Cap Cut. I was not. I was hearing that Cap Cut was leaving and then that it wasn't. I used capcut to edit all my vlogs. Peas uses it to edit all of our clips. So when Cap Cut, which is still banned by the way, TikTok is back online. Cap Cut is not back online. So I was in the middle of editing my vlog with Cap Cut, that's owned by bytedance, the same company that Tik Tok is owned by. And my vlog is gone. Kaput. Like, clipped all the, all the edits I did for it. I cannot even access it unless I do something illegal, which I'm not doing. Of course not FBI. But yeah, it's. It's gone. So I feel like people have a reason. I just, I don't know. I saw so many people on the Internet being so. Just very callous, like, get a life, y'all. Crying over an app. It's an app and it's just like, no, these are people's livelihoods. And on top of that, there are plenty of people who built community on TikTok. TikTok is not like Instagram. Like, you can discover anyone on TikTok. You can build a community with anyone. TikTok. I mean, like, Instagram's algorithm is one of the main things that people complain about with it. It's a terrible algorithm, them. So it's just like, if this was going away for like some real. Then people will have to eat it. But, like, it's. For example, it was back online within 12 hours, right? It's back online before Tik Tok went offline. Suddenly Facebook has a Tik Tok account and Twitter has a Tick X has a Tick Tock account. And right, like, they never had one before. But suddenly, before it goes offline, it does. Suddenly the con, all the members of Congress that voted against it, they got Meta stock. Suddenly the TikTok CEO is throwing a party for Trump 24 hours after Trump lifts the ban or postpones the ban on TikTok that waka flocka and Lil Pump are performing at. How the fuck did you get that party done in 24 hours? Y'all think we fucking stupid. I open my app, when I open to go back on TikTok, it says, we want to thank President Donald Trump for getting us back online in 12 hours. Trump wasn't even inaugurated into like. Like into office yet, but he got that done legally. This is bullshit. Like, y'all, this. Y'all were working together for this. First of all, the whole entire band came from Trump. Trump introduced that ban. Everybody was against it. And then everything that was happening with Israel and Palestine, and they saw that Gen Z was all on Palestine side, and then the fucking Anti Defamation League was like, oh, my God, we gotta get TikTok the fuck outta here. Then Trump. So this problem that Trump introduced, now it's, oh, I solved this. This is crazy. TikTok shouldn't go away. You introduced the problem to fix it and the c. And you fixed it within 12 hours. And the CEO is now thanking Trump when you open the app.

[Maul]

But I think that was because don't. Doesn't us have some ownership in it now?

[Damaris]

No, no, that's what they're gonna announce.

[Rory]

What they're trying to figure out now. And they're playing it off like Demerit said.

[Maul]

That's figured out.

[Rory]

Can't even do that as the president before he even was inaugurated. But that's neither here nor there. Even though that's Playing in our face. But yeah, he is using this PR shit because they've been talking behind the scenes the entire time.

[Maul]

Okay, so that's a problem.

[Rory]

Yes. I think in politics, not just with Trump starting a problem and then looking like you're fixing it and then taking the credit is not.

[Maul]

Trump started a problem.

[Damaris]

Yes. Trump is the one that introduced the now we gotta get rid of it.

[Maul]

Wasn't it because they was collecting all of our data?

[Rory]

No, it's. It's definitely something that we need to look into. But now going away from that entire thing and even introducing. Oh, we'll take 50% and I get it, he's the best negotiator of all time. I. That's a solution. Are you doing this to make yourself look good? Not to help or protect us? Because I agree China having all our data is a problem, but it's not for our safety. He's doing this.

[Damaris]

The US Having all our data is a problem. I'm more afraid of the US having my data than China. I'm not going to hold you Way more terrified. China's just trying to sell me shit China is doing. Spending all the time.

[Maul]

Aren't you more afraid of China, the US having your data than China?

[Damaris]

Have you met our government? Weren't we just talking about the MLK files and the JFK files and all that getting released? Yes. Have you met our government? We said if those files get released, the CIA would kill the President.

[Maul]

Damaris, if they release your data for TikTok right now, what's going to happen? Happen? What. What is. What's going to be exposed?

[Rory]

That's a weird example.

[Damaris]

That's.

[Maul]

I'm just saying what. What is going to be exposed?

[Rory]

So everyone's. Damaris.

[Maul]

No, I'm not saying that. I'm talking, but I'm talking to her because she had a problem with it. So I'm saying what do you. If you more comfortable with China having your data, I mean America, China having your data over America, then I'm.

[Rory]

I have an issue with both. I have an issue with America finally putting Mark Zuckerberg on trial because he out Patriot Act. The Patriot Act Act. He did it better and they couldn't control it. So instead of putting on this facade of like, yo, we don't want to make sure that Mark Zuckerberg doesn't take your data and do some with it. All they did in that situation was figure out how he did it so they could control it. That's the same they're doing here with.

[Damaris]

The China Thing and invest in it. Invest in it so they can get money from it.

[Rory]

Yeah, but he went against the Supreme Court because they were like, damn, all right. He did this better than us after the Patriot Act. He has all the shit we need. Now we're upset because you have something that we've been trying to control this entire last two decades, but the government controls it.

[Maul]

No matter what, though, they control Facebook. Zuckerberg spoke to that. They had him take down shit about the vaccination. He admitted to that.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Maul]

That they was calling, saying, yo, take that down. The government is going to control it no matter what. If TikTok goes back up tomorrow and y'all back to making money, the government still controls it.

[Damaris]

But. But this. So this is my thing with TikTok where I think that TikTok became a danger because China, though, they may have a dog in the fight. When it comes to our little shit that we be arguing about as far as our government, they don't really have a dog in that fight. So they weren't censoring things that the news is censoring, that Facebook and all of them are censoring. Like we were able to. During, like the. When the fight in the Middle east really got to its boiling point, we were able to go there and talk to each other and share information. And I don't think that our government wants us sharing information. And I think that that's why all of this is going on. So what's allegedly happening right now? TikTok is back online. It was down for 12 hours. It went dark for 12 hours. Tick Tock is back online. Allegedly it's a 90. They're talking about a 90 day suspension on the ban. Right? 90 days for them to either sell or figure it out or figure it out to get it figured out. And people are giving Trump all of the. He's getting all the publicity from this the day before his inauguration. All of that was planned. Like, that's. You got a party thrown for you by TikTok in 24 hours with Waka Flocka and Lil Pumpkin. You think we stupid like Sza Grandma said? It's just. I don't know, it's just disrespectful shit. And that's making people not even wanna use the fucking app. Because it's like we went so hard for you, trying to make it seem like you were the hero that was trying to stick up for us and stick up for our rights. And the whole time you were in bed, TikTok, that's what the CEO was being painted as. He was saying, oh, they're harping on American rights, on American right to freedom of speech and this, this, this, this and that. And then you rolling around in bed with. With Donald Trump whole time like, this is shit is weird.

[Maul]

So they all know each other? All STEM CEOs and officials from other countries. They know each. They know each other. They do business with each other all the time. That's not. That's not new. I just think that it's crazy that people were actually, like, in tears, crying. I'm like, but y'all knew this was coming. How are y'all this hurt and upset and like, they've been talking about this for almost, what, two years now. Now. And now that the day is here, y'all are, like, crying online. Yeah, I just didn't understand that. I thought that was absolutely crazy to me. That was crazy to me to see that. That's all I'm saying. I get it. You making money on it, but it's like, you knew this was coming. This is. You didn't wake up to this. You knew this was coming.

[Rory]

The same way when the family member fights cancer for seven years, I'm still sad when they die.

[Maul]

Yeah, but you knew it was coming is my point, though.

[Damaris]

It doesn't make me less sad.

[Rory]

I still cried. Yeah, but I mean, when my grandmother died at 93 with dementia, I cried. I knew it was coming. Of course, I couldn't believe it lasted that long.

[Maul]

My thing is, knew this was. We knew this was happening. We knew this was happening. So I just don't. Why are people all up in arms about it? You knew it was happening.

[Rory]

I gave an example of losing $100,000 when you have a daughter and planned your year out with that. Yeah, I would feel the way.

[Maul]

I know. I get it. I just.

[Rory]

And you're not scared with America having our data because you kind of. It's kind of a contradiction when you look at what Zuckerberg was talking about, where the Biden administration did go in there and say anything vaccine related. Take that shit down, whatever that's. They're using our data to control us. I actually agree with the Republicans there. That's fucked up that the government was able to go to Zuckerberg and tell him what he can and cannot post based off their agenda. They did that based off the data that they collected because they have our data. They know how to control us. So I'm terrified when America has my data.

[Maul]

I'm terrified if anybody has my data. If that's the case.

[Rory]

And I'm putting to the point of you saying like, yo, Damaris, if your TikTok data is leaked everywhere tomorrow, what does it do? It's not that I don't care. I have nothing in my laptop or on any of my accounts that could be exposed. And I'd be like, oh, fuck no. It's because they can actually control and target me based off how I move on the Internet. They take all my algorithms and then control us based off that individually. Not before, when it was just the whole masses watch one news channel. Channel. They're going person by person to figure out how we can control that person based off their habits. Terrified. Because it works on me too.

[Maul]

But it works on.

[Rory]

It works on everybody. I don't care how smart you are, you get manipulated based off the data that is sold to these companies. So I am terrified when our government has our data because I don't think they have the best interest at heart. I'm terrified if China has it, terrified if Russia has it. I'm terrified, period. But I'm not putting the American government. Government. Higher on the scare level.

[Damaris]

Yeah, because who's more likely to use it against you? Who's more likely to try to like to use it against you? It's definitely your own fucking government. Especially our government. We see the way that.

[Rory]

And I'm not on the China side, but at least they educate their fucking citizens. Go off the education rate basis. We just did my spelling bee. I felt actually retarded when I left. And I'm not with like, I understand I'm not here to be on China's side for anything they do with their government, but they're educated.

[Damaris]

Our government purposely wants to keep us stupid.

[Rory]

They made me dumb as.

[Maul]

Rory, I promise you, them collecting your data had nothing to do with you not being able to spell.

[Rory]

I agree, but I'm saying if everyone's collecting data, at least educate me.

[Damaris]

Yeah, like, damn, can I get something?

[Maul]

I mean, they gave you the phone that spells correct for you. Like, they put it in your hand.

[Rory]

China did well.

[Maul]

Oh, yeah, China did that. Absolutely.

[Damaris]

See him doing it.

[Rory]

Steve and China.

[Damaris]

But for content creators. I saw a lot of content creators as well. And I also had this revelation where they were like, you know, I feel like I've been. I played with this app and I was gone and it's like, fuck, I took too long to do this. Or my imposter syndrome was whooping my ass and it's like, okay, it's back online. This is your second Chance, go in your fucking drafts, edit them videos and put out your content if that's what you want to do. Put out into the world. Let people see you. Even if you don't get all the likes you want. Even if your community is built slow like stop being afraid to do it. People are out here making money from doing literally just being themselves. Yeah, it's a lady. It's a lady on fucking TikTok that makes so much money, all she do is cook nasty ass meals for her five kids and TikTok is now paying all her fucking bills. Do people can relate to you. No matter what you do, people can relate to you. There's a community.

[Maul]

You don't feel like that's a problem?

[Damaris]

No, I don't think that that's a problem. I feel like the people who have billions and billions of dollars just because they were born into it and they're not doing anything to fix the world, I feel like that' problem. If somebody's getting $5,000 a month from views from a. A app that's not hurting nobody and there's people that can relate to them and people are seeing themselves in that person and building a community. No, I think that that's harmless. I don't think there's anything wrong with it.

[Rory]

No. Tik Tok is.

[Damaris]

Not everybody's going to be a contributor.

[Rory]

But it does create jobs.

[Damaris]

Tik Tok can be harmful. It doesn't have to be. I think social media is harmful, period. And I think that in excess it can dumb our kids down. But I don't think that it has to be harmful. Harmful. Not everybody.

[Maul]

It doesn't have. But it is.

[Damaris]

It can be. But not everybody.

[Maul]

A bunch of idiots walking around like I'm seeing the birth of idiots. Like I see it.

[Damaris]

There wasn't no idiots like back in your day.

[Maul]

Oh no, it was it. But. But no, never but it was. It was. They didn't. We didn't have never seen those access to the information that these kids do now. It was. It's a difference. If you was dumb back then, it was hard. You had to kind of like to be smart. You had to like really like be in class Pitts and go to the library, read books and like that that now you can educate yourself sitting in your room like just on the Internet. But they choose to do dumb. They choose to indulge in dumb. They choose to do these dumbass challenges and end up in the hospital, end up dead. Like trying to jump into an algorithm and get famous and get popular.

[Damaris]

Wasn't you like jumping Chinese people for their food for no reason with mad food now.

[Maul]

It wasn't Chinese people.

[Damaris]

See, look at the Chinese. Was it the B that delivered the Chinese people?

[Maul]

Cancel don't work no more. So you could try to throw that on my jacket all you want. I'm not gonna get canceled, baby.

[Damaris]

D, that's not about you getting canceled. It's about comparing dumb that kids do. Kids do dumb, period.

[Rory]

Yeah. No matter what's in front of them, kids are going to find some dumb. I do think social media is. Is frying adults and kids brains for sure.

[Maul]

The kids are fried.

[Damaris]

The kids been fried though.

[Maul]

No, they like double fried.

[Damaris]

Yeah. No, the kids are really.

[Maul]

They took them out the batter and threw them back in. It's over.

[Rory]

But I mean, I don't know. I was sitting watching Loose Change when I was 12 years old, documentaries, frying my fucking brain, and now I'm a stupid conspiracy theory. Like, I mean, yeah, no, our brains have been fried for quite some time. It's not just in this young generation that. That wants to flip a water bottle upside down and scream when it happens like, no, like kids are gonna do dumb.

[Maul]

Don't get it twisted like that. I understand. Like, have fun.

[Rory]

But you and I both planked.

[Maul]

If you. If you tell me. Yeah, but that was like, you know, we didn't. We didn't go but so far.

[Rory]

Wasn't on Tik Tok though.

[Maul]

No, but we didn't go but so far with that though. How far do we go with planking?

[Rory]

We. We climbed buildings.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but it wasn't like I planked on a roof.

[Maul]

So did I. But that's. I would climb on a roof if it wasn't called planking. That's what we did.

[Rory]

I planked on a trash can. You know, the bacteria that was coming out of that.

[Maul]

That's.

[Damaris]

But if that was a challenge right now, you would call kids all types of stupid.

[Maul]

Yeah, I'll call kids stupid no matter what. When they do stupid, they just stupid.

[Damaris]

Yeah, planking was some stupid, I guess.

[Maul]

Depends on what you planked on. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, it depends on what you planked on.

[Rory]

No, break. Break it down. No, because I'll give you the knowledge.

[Damaris]

What was respectable planking?

[Maul]

Yeah, I mean, what was respectable porn like?

[Rory]

Yeah. Wait, what?

[Damaris]

That spider falling through that web. Ain't no threads connecting.

[Rory]

All right, so Spice Channel. Respectable porn, right?

[Maul]

N. That's right. Like the Spice Channel. That's corny porn.

[Rory]

All right, so what's respectable porn and how does that tie in respectable planking?

[Maul]

Respectable porn is like, you know, you, you deliver food to her, her house. Like the delivery guy.

[Rory]

There's a. A scenario.

[Maul]

Yeah, Conversation talk. She's lonely, husband is away at work.

[Rory]

You know, just want a pepperoni pizza.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

I think the massage, the massage, like erotic porn is respectable porn. Like, like y'all look like y'all in love. Y'all are not ruining kids image of what sex should be.

[Maul]

Just because she's massaging her with oil.

[Damaris]

No, cuz it's like it's, you know, it's nice. It's not like all the screaming and extra shit and the busted milk bottles coming out of pussies.

[Maul]

What?

[Rory]

I am so confused on this. What, what is going on right now?

[Maul]

What busted milk bottle? What porn?

[Damaris]

Oh, the extra, the extra liquid they be adding to the porn.

[Maul]

Oh, to like squirt and cream and stuff like that.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Maul]

Oh yeah, that's like.

[Damaris]

That's Philadelphia cream cheese. I know Philadelphia cream cheese when I see it.

[Maul]

Anyway.

[Rory]

I haven't paid for sex, but I would pay for one of those body to body massages. That looks cool.

[Maul]

Like completely naked oil.

[Rory]

Yeah, like if a bad just want to rub her body on me. I'll pay for that.

[Damaris]

Like a seal.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Two seals making love.

[Rory]

But my thing is, what do you do once it's over? You put your shirt back on.

[Maul]

Yeah. You get up and go home.

[Damaris]

The same way.

[Maul]

And you gotta wear one break.

[Rory]

I've watched that massage porn. She's talking about like what? How do you.

[Maul]

You gotta wear windbreaker. You gotta wear those pants with all the oil on you.

[Damaris]

That's an experience for sure. Full body.

[Rory]

They would have to be ripped off my. All my skin would come off trying to take.

[Maul]

You gotta go get an oily massager to put on a windbreaker. They take your ass.

[Rory]

That's what I want to know with the people that do that massage. Like how do you go home that.

[Maul]

Get a massage or that dual massage.

[Rory]

No, the people that get a massage with all the oil and all that. Like how do you go home?

[Maul]

You've never had a massage before.

[Rory]

I'm talking about them nasty massages.

[Maul]

Oh, no.

[Damaris]

But even regular massages, you be oiled the fuck up.

[Maul]

Yeah, you'd be greased up.

[Rory]

Yeah, but you could put a hoodie on like the body. Like the, what's, what's it called in porn?

[Damaris]

I don't know. Massage erotic.

[Rory]

They be like drenched out. That.

[Maul]

Yeah, no, that's different.

[Rory]

They look like, you know when the egg Hatched in Jurassic park and the came out and it was just covered in all that slime. Like that's how it looks important. How the could you possibly go home?

[Damaris]

Towel off a little bit.

[Maul]

Most massage rubbing that oil off with.

[Rory]

A towel would be insane.

[Damaris]

You know when you put too much lotion on your hand, you like, can you take some this like that?

[Maul]

So you just gonna go around to the co workers, everybody that work in the massage park, like, can you take some of this? And you butt ass naked, want them to just like wipe you? That's what's up.

[Rory]

A girl text me and says she needed to get a forehand massage. And I didn't type this, but I thought my head was like, that's some whole. A forehead forehand massage.

[Maul]

Oh, like four hands.

[Rory]

Yeah, I was like, some.

[Maul]

So two people. Okay.

[Rory]

Like, why you need two?

[Damaris]

Yeah, that sounds fire. I never had that done before. Before.

[Maul]

Two people massage.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I never did that. I never had that before.

[Maul]

Nothing is worse than getting a massage and falling asleep though.

[Rory]

I've done that.

[Damaris]

So you feel like you wasted your money.

[Maul]

I ain't even feel that. I ain't feel nothing. I'm sleep, I'm here drooling and every.

[Damaris]

Single time, every single time.

[Rory]

Yo, a while ago me and Kia did that like couples massage. And I fell asleep and I started snoring and I woke up to the two Masseas and Kia laughing at me. Bro, you've been snoring for the last 45 minutes.

[Damaris]

Damn, that's so embarrassing. They could have woke you up.

[Maul]

Now that means, that means that massage was hitting.

[Rory]

I would feel upset if the masseuse woke me up. If I'm in that deep of a sleep, like, keep doing what you're doing.

[Maul]

But no, they'll be done. Sometimes they just close the door, let you just sleep. Like, you know, depending on. If they give you.

[Damaris]

They usually give you a little tap. On the butt.

[Maul]

No, on the butt.

[Rory]

Like, they woke me up when it was over, the hour was over. Yo, imagine they left you sleeping and then charged you by the hour. You woke up six hours later. Like, I mean, 60 minute massage times six. Like, this is what. Why don't you wake me up? I had somebody on the PATH train when I was young didn't wake me up. She was. What do they call a conductor? She let me go from Newark to World Trade center for like five hours. And once I woke up, up, she started laughing, was like, I've just watched you. I was like, you ain't want to wake Me up. I was like, not your.

[Maul]

Like back and forth.

[Damaris]

Yeah, she up.

[Maul]

Nah, that's up. How you. That's how you sleep that hard on the train? I never understood that.

[Rory]

Unbecoming.

[Maul]

I cannot sleep that hard on the train.

[Damaris]

I used to when I was younger. Now I know, like wake myself up, but I've definitely slept from like Brooklyn to Manhattan before.

[Maul]

That's.

[Damaris]

Or like from Queen. That's one stop from Queens to like, like Manhattan. I've done Queens of Manhattan. I've slept.

[Maul]

Yeah, but back and forth. Like you go to the last stop, come back, go to the last.

[Damaris]

Well, the path is different though, because the path is only like five stops, so.

[Rory]

Yeah. And the World Trade to Newark one is sort of quick, but after like 3am that sits for a half hour. So you're on the train with the doors open for like a half hour. So I fell. I fell asleep to the point that I knocked the out with mta. Like, you get that train sleep where you know, you can even know what stop you at and you're asleep because it keeps going, going. I was knocked. That sat there and I knocked out.

[Maul]

I never understood how people fall asleep at the gate at the airport and like, miss their flight. That I don't understand.

[Damaris]

People underestimate how tired people be.

[Maul]

That's insane though. You're at the gate and you fall asleep and you completely miss your flight.

[Rory]

I'm embarrassed to say how many times I've almost missed a flight and I was at the gate more than when I was late to the airport. How I've almost missed a flight. Being there on time more than being.

[Maul]

Like that is insane to me.

[Damaris]

I'm never that restaurant having a drink and look up, they be like, last boarding call. Or they'll call me and be like, are you coming to your flight?

[Maul]

All right, but that's. That's different. You at the bar, you lose track of time. That's I'm talking about at the gate. Sleep. And you don't hear nothing. Like, come on, fam, How. How tired are you?

[Damaris]

I can't marry a like that. Cuz you ain't even on your peas and kids.

[Maul]

Exactly. All right, so now your opening up exactly this all head in the clouds, yeah. Sleep at the gate and you miss your flight. That's a fucking idiot. Like, you an idiot.

[Rory]

How are we ever going to meet our soulmates? Damaris is saying I can't even take a nap. And not you.

[Damaris]

Not a red flag.

[Maul]

It's different. You could. You could doze off at the gate. But you can't be completely slumped and not hear nothing going on around you.

[Rory]

Okay? Not all of us are just going to airports to go to Turks for our vacation. Some people travel so goddamn much, they're in and out of airports constantly. And they're exhausted. Exhausted. So they sit down.

[Maul]

You try to make an excuse. That ain't an excuse.

[Damaris]

That ain't an excuse for you.

[Maul]

That ain't an excuse for you being a fucking airhead. You at the gate, fall asleep, wake up. Niggas is gone.

[Rory]

Nah, y'all are right.

[Maul]

You know how crazy that is.

[Rory]

Being tired should never be an excuse to fall asleep.

[Damaris]

No, it's not about falling asleep. It's about being so asleep that you don't hear nothing, call nothing going on. People shuffling around like, where's your body?

[Maul]

Like, where's your body alarm? Like, y'all niggas don't got body alarms. Like, where your body just, like. Just know some shit is happening, and you just, like, wake up out of asleep. Like you at an airport. I understand you supposed to be at the gate, but your body gotta have some type of, like. Yo, fam, get up like they bored. You got. You don't have that in you like that.

[Rory]

Yeah, but some people have just been so exhausted that they knock the fuck out. I've fallen asleep standing up sometimes. I've been so tired.

[Maul]

Fam, you. I'm the same guy, y'all. We took the. We was going to London. I was asleep before we even left the game gate. I'm that guy. Let me tell you what was not gonna happen. I was not gonna be in the Delta Sky Lounge, knocked out and missed my flight. That wasn't gonna happen. No matter how tired you are. Like, I'm just saying, to fall asleep at a gate. Bunch of people. First of all, how you even fall in that deep of a sleep with a bunch of, like, strange people sitting next to you?

[Damaris]

I'm saying you ain't really. Like, really? Yeah, you could fall asleep. I just never understood how you in that gate.

[Maul]

And definitely not on the mta. The New York subway.

[Rory]

No.

[Maul]

Yo, falling into a deep sleep on an MTA like, you. You deserve to get robbed Job. You deserve to wake up.

[Rory]

I mean, I agree there.

[Maul]

Yeah. Like, that's just like, what are you. How are you not that tired? Like, I understand you tired. Long day, but you don't hear nothing going on around you and you on the subway. No, I. I don't. I never understood that. That's crazy to me.

[Rory]

No, I mean, you got. You guys are the rim rem gods. My bad.

[Maul]

Speaking of the rim gods, your boy.

[Rory]

You know what I want to give Maul credit with? This being the inauguration day and the LiAngelo Ball situation at the game, I thought Maul was going to come in here on his high horse. He's been very humble today. I have to give him credit. I thought he was going to ask for his fucking flowers, everything.

[Maul]

No.

[Rory]

So have at it. L'Angelo Ball opens up the Lions game.

[Maul]

And then the Lions get beat.

[Damaris]

Stop. They was going to do that. Was going to happen anyway.

[Maul]

I don't know, man. He bought some bad juju into the building. Man, he bought some bad juju.

[Rory]

He was shaving points.

[Maul]

I mean. All right, so this is a record. This is Rory's favorite record, right now, every time I look, Rory's tweeting, texting me about this tweaker song.

[Rory]

No, I'm not.

[Maul]

What did you think about LiAngelo's performance? Did he look comfortable? Did he look like he's ready for the big leagues?

[Rory]

I know you're setting up that question because you know the answer. I know he looked awful. You know that he looks awful.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

What, you thought I was going to come in here and say, yo, that was prince level?

[Maul]

I've seen people. I've seen people online saying, yo, he got good stage presence, even though it's not a stage.

[Rory]

No one said that. Find me the tweet.

[Maul]

All right, I'm telling you, he.

[Rory]

On the field, he hadn't on stage.

[Maul]

I think your boy Cass said it. I think Cass might have tweeted, yo, great stage presence.

[Rory]

Don't. All right, Kaz was being sarcastic.

[Damaris]

Put that on.

[Maul]

Cass, don't put that on tweet. Now you're telling me he's being sarcastic? I'm just telling you what he tweeted. I'm just telling you what he tweeted.

[Rory]

Kaz on Twitter is usually sarcastic.

[Maul]

Okay, well, he said he was the.

[Rory]

You think Kaz said, yo, that's great stage presence.

[Maul]

I'm just saying, man, I like for.

[Damaris]

The tweak how he did that. Cause that's my mom move. I like that. I might tweak out.

[Maul]

That's when your wig itching like that.

[Rory]

Pat your weeds, baby. No.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Damaris]

See you, white. It's a MLK day. Yeah, Teetering a line. For real?

[Maul]

You tweaking?

[Rory]

I actually think it's racist that you think white women don't wear weaves. That's not a black women specific thing.

[Maul]

No, it's not. You're right. That's. That.

[Rory]

See, that's. I don't even like that guys do that.

[Maul]

This. This record. Damaris.

[Rory]

CIA didn't kill him.

[Damaris]

Okay, okay. This doesn't.

[Maul]

How many tik toks have you created to this song?

[Rory]

That was a low blow, man.

[Maul]

What I'm at, I have a real.

[Damaris]

Coming with this song in the background, but it's a lit night out. It's a lit type song. Type.

[Maul]

There you go. See? All right.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Damaris]

At the end of the day, nobody said he was going to come out and be the greatest performer alive. Who is on their first real performance. I don't like. I don't think it's a. Oh, look, y'all. He sucks. Like, what the did we expect? Like, he had a viral record that came out. He didn't work up to his career. That happens sometimes. It happened to Soulja Boy. It happened to Icebox. It happens to people all the time. He has to learn how to perform. That's a huge spotlight to be in. And I could tell he couldn't hear himself as well. Like, there's a bunch of that he has to learn and get better at. I'm not gonna on him for it.

[Maul]

Okay, that's fair. I respect that.

[Rory]

He definitely had an earpiece and he could hear himself. He just.

[Damaris]

I don't. I think. I don't think his earpiece was working. I could tell how. Because he.

[Maul]

Whenever he did the tweaking move, it was. He knocked the earpiece off maybe, but.

[Damaris]

He kept, like, stopping and then trying to catch up with the beat. Like, I could tell that he couldn't really hear himself.

[Rory]

I was hoping Maul was going to come in here on some non humble because I actually feel like Damaris and I need our flowers, not you, when it comes to this Landlo Ball performance. You were wondering how he was going to recoup his deal. I said, hey, gonna have a. A deal with the NBA and NFL tomorrow.

[Maul]

Detroit Lions, grand opening, grand closing. Cancun on three.

[Damaris]

Cancun on three.

[Maul]

Pack the Lions. Pack the Lions in.

[Rory]

So you Are that LiAngelo's deal? I'm sorry. Def Jam's deal with the NFL is based upon the Lions winning?

[Maul]

No LiAngelo. He'll probably be. He'll probably be at the Washington Philly game. Yeah, doing tweaker there. They're gonna send him on the tweaker run. He'll probably be at the Super Bowl.

[Rory]

Yo, doing tweaker at multiple NFL games within one month is.

[Maul]

Yeah, they're gonna put him on A tweaking one. They gotta recoup. They gonna put him on a tweaking run. He gonna be at super bowl in New Orleans. He gonna get a couple walkthroughs out there.

[Rory]

He.

[Maul]

You know what I mean? Do a couple. You know, little. Little Vince for the NFL. Yeah, I can see it happening. They gonna work them now. They gonna work them.

[Rory]

I did want to bring up in our group chat with Drama, Lake and Cannon how they did feel that the last person that did perform at a Lions game was Jack Harlow. I'd be livid if I was them.

[Maul]

Why?

[Rory]

This guy's getting the same fucking look that our artist that's established and amazing is doing.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's how it happened.

[Rory]

I'd be.

[Maul]

Nah, this is the new. You just need one record.

[Rory]

What the.

[Maul]

No, you need one song.

[Rory]

Came out of an igloo made out of paper mache. Like he was. He tried to do something.

[Maul]

He had a vision. That was terrible, though.

[Damaris]

That was terrible.

[Maul]

That performance was terrible.

[Rory]

I'm not. I. I love him, but.

[Maul]

Boy, we fuck with Jack. But that production, that setup. Yeah, it didn't. It didn't land the way they thought it would. I know in there.

[Rory]

And then he was with his mans. He was like, what's his. His man's doing just standing there?

[Maul]

Yeah, it was bad. It was bad. That. All right, what was worse, Jack or Liangelo? Liangelo, absolutely. Yeah. But I mean, that's not fair because again, like the mar said, this is his first. First time out on the field, big stage, a lot of people. A lot of people watching, a lot of people in the stadium. So we got to give him some grace, man. I don't want people to think I hate leand.

[Rory]

No, it's actually funny that we are on different sides with this because I think this actually adds to your point of why certain people shouldn't get. Yeah, the song is great, but nah, you're not allowed to perform yet. Same Ice Spice shit went crazy and they threw her right on that stage.

[Maul]

And everybody laughed at us.

[Rory]

She became a better performer. But now you're not ready for this. Like, why are we giving this to you?

[Maul]

That's how it is. But back to what you were saying. This is the new norm. You just need one song, one record. It goes viral. Everybody knows the song. Now you start putting them. They're getting these looks that it's like established artists can't even get a whiff at. It's like, damn, he got a dope ass. Whole album out. Last two years, he can't get this look. Nah. We're going to give it to the new viral moment. Viral sensation.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Because it's not about.

[Rory]

Because they trying to recoup the deal.

[Damaris]

Exactly. It's not about who about who deserves it. It's about who people are going to tune in to watch. And that just is what it is.

[Rory]

Is this. Is this breaking news right now?

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Rory]

Joey Badass happy birthday. By the way, did you wish Joey Badass happy birthday? Can I wear my baby mother's pants to a podcast and wish Joey Badass happy birthday further? Yeah, you can do whatever you want.

[Maul]

You can do whatever you want.

[Rory]

While we're recording, it looks like Joey Badass put out a birthday freestyle. Sorry. Not sorry. Out now. And he has a clip or a lyric. I'm bigging up my city. That's something I had to do. Might delete later. I know damn sure that Joey won't. You know what? Let's take a quick break and let me hear this pocket and come right back second.

[Damaris]

Okay. Because you were struggling to read that. It was stressing me out.

[Rory]

I don't know what he was trying to like. How's the cadence go with this? We'll come right back in. And we're back.

[Damaris]

Yeah. The line that people were saying was a shot of cold was might delete later. I know damn sure that Joey won't it. I want all the smoke, but that's not really a shot. He's going to be dealing with that for the rest of his career. So.

[Maul]

All right.

[Rory]

I'm here for Joey doing this. This. Even though I was even on the side when everyone was calling it cloud chasing, I thought too much west coast dick licking was really just, you know, a ode to Jay in that entire thing. And everyone on the west coast was like, this is a direct shot at all of us. They may have a point because now that he's just shooting, I'm like, all right, all right. Maybe Joey meant something about that. So I apologize to the West Coast. But I do like what Joey's doing. I don't care if it's deemed clout. Chasey people rapping now. So why can't Joey come out and ask that? I do think that was a genius move because Cole is not going to reply because he can't. So now you set that up and may it's going to look like someone's not replying. It was a. It was a good move.

[Maul]

I mean, Cole could.

[Damaris]

He could reply, but that doesn't look.

[Rory]

They would kill Cole. Be like all right, you just replied to Joey Badass.

[Damaris]

I don't think that's a shot, though. I don't think that that's a shot. Like, it's a shot, but I don't think it's a. I'm. I'm dissing you shot. I think it's just a.

[Rory]

You gotta think it's coming off his last record that people were saying was a diss to Kendrick or the west coast or whatever. Too much west coast dick licking, all that. He's saying. I'm not, Cole. I'm not. I'm not deleting the record I just put out. That's exactly what he's saying.

[Damaris]

Yeah, he said he want all the smoke, but like I said, that's not a shot. It's a stray, but I don't think it's a shot.

[Maul]

It ain't no stray. Said the name.

[Rory]

That's a direction. What are you talking about?

[Damaris]

But I don't. But I feel. Okay. I get what you're saying, but the shot is not pow, pow. Cole, what's up? It's. I'm shooting at the West. I ain't. This. Like, that's what it is. I don't think it's a cold.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's a shot. Like. I ain't. I'm not.

[Damaris]

I think it's a. But that's why I said I think it's a straight. I don't think it's a.

[Maul]

It ain't a straight. He got. He got. He got shot.

[Rory]

And again, I admit when I'm wrong, I'm backtracking that now. Joey was dissing the west coast, y'all. I'm sorry. He was? Yeah.

[Damaris]

Oh, for sure.

[Rory]

He definitely was. And now he's doubling down on it. And he's also shooting a direct shot at Jermaine Cole. Now, your opinion.

[Maul]

Cole can't respond.

[Rory]

That's what's up, cuz. I don't think Cole is to play with right now. I think he's an album mode in. In great shape. No, he just put himself in a position where if he replies to Joey Badass, everyone would kill Cole. You can't Stepped out of the. The cage.

[Maul]

You can't do that. No selection. No, it ain't.

[Rory]

It was genius by Joey.

[Maul]

I told y'all this was gonna happen.

[Rory]

Cole will never reply.

[Maul]

I told y'all this was gonna happen.

[Rory]

And. And it's genius because people aren't even gonna be like, yo, Cole's such a bigger artist that he wouldn't even do that. We don't want to hear that's a sheisty Brooklyn move.

[Maul]

But I told y'all last year, I said, yo, listen. Now when these other rappers start coming at Cole, Cole cannot respond because that's gonna look away. It's gonna, oh, you gonna respond to this guy, but not to the guy that you now sort of seem like you scared of. You was losing sleep behind. No selective politicking.

[Rory]

That's a sheisty. I live off the two train move. I know Joey. I mean, he seems, He's a nice guy, great smile. Nah, Joey's still from Brooklyn. That was a sheisty scammer move just there that I, I appreciate and love that he just did that.

[Maul]

I mean.

[Damaris]

Well, how do you feel about the freestyle, though?

[Rory]

It was great.

[Damaris]

I love it.

[Rory]

The last, the last two joints Joey's put out have been incredible.

[Maul]

Listen, Joey want to rap. Joey want to put out music, man. He want to, you know, he got the acting thing, you know, going for him, and now he like it. I wouldn't really capitalize on this music, so, you know, he had time to sit back and, and, and watch and see what was going on. Now he's reacting to it. He's speaking about, about it, obviously, and he here to rap. I like it, man. I like when dudes want to rap. Like, I, I, I'll always respect when dudes.

[Damaris]

Would you play that? And would you play that in your alone time more?

[Maul]

Would I play that? Yeah, I'll play that. It's cool. It got a lot of, you know, little jazzy element to it, obviously, with the sample and the conductor. It's something that, you know, I could listen to, but, I mean, that's a.

[Rory]

A great car record, especially with congestion pricing. I'm skirting down it. Yeah, I'mma keep driving to that.

[Maul]

But I like Joey, though. I always liked Joey, though.

[Rory]

Always, always with him separate but connected to this topic. We as fans also need to say that we don't have accountability because I'm with you. I like that Joey's coming out and saying, yo, let's rap. But we also have called people clout chasers when they want to do that. Like, I loved when Simba put out that freestyle after the whole Cole situation. But most of those comments were like, yo, this is clout chasing. Why you attaching yourself to a situation you got nothing to do with? What's wrong if people just want to rap? If it's time to rap, why can't it not be clout chasey? If a rapper goes okay, let's rap.

[Maul]

And, and attaching yourself to it. Yeah, but what's wrong again? Because now you know what's wrong with cloud chasing? That's not frowned upon no more, actually. That's, that's encouraged. People want you to clout chase. Now you wear you weirdo if you don't clout chase because that's what gets rewarded.

[Rory]

But to me, cloud chasing isn't rapping if rappers are saying let's rap.

[Maul]

No, but that's not cloud chasing to be rapping, but you know, throwing little, little, little jazz, little bars in there to get kind of like, you know, get something ignited to kind of stir some.

[Rory]

All of our legends have done that forever. Yeah, that's not a new like.

[Maul]

So that's what I'm saying. Like in rap, certain times it's necessary.

[Rory]

But I feel like we've even been victim to this where we've come in and looked at certain rappers that are just saying to say it as clout chasing. Like, why are you even inserting yourself in this? To try to get some attention on top of what's going on over here. You putting yourself into it. We've said that before. I'm saying we are hypocrites. Why can't we just accept that rappers want to rap? Because I know they're going to call Joey clout chasey for this. I think people are still going to use the control against Joey, whether he was named in it or not. Everyone deemed that as a New York diss and it went that way. Now, now you want to talk about west coast and Kendrick. Where was you at when he didn't say Kendrick?

[Maul]

Kendrick.

[Rory]

Where, where. Where was you at when Kendrick was juggling both coasts in his hand and, and saying he the king of New York even though it's a corrupt bar. I get all that. But the world perception at that time was why aren't New York rappers coming to the front to do about that?

[Maul]

I just think that it's going to be an interesting year in hip hop is what I'll say. I think a lot of. We're going to see a lot of guys saying, saying a lot of things. A lot of look, we got a glimpse obviously the beef last year, we know what that was. But I think 2025, we're going to see be more, more rap spats.

[Damaris]

And I'm, I'm actually excited about that. I'm ready to talk about rap spats that aren't the he's who must not be named. Like, I'm ready to See, other rappers, like, step up and put on for they city and claim they the king of they city. Like, I've missed the competitiveness in hip hop. That's what I love so much about last year. I can keep all the other shit that has come with it.

[Rory]

Until it went left.

[Damaris]

Yeah, until the shit went left. But, like, if we can keep. Keep that energy going, I'm with it. I'm with all the smoke.

[Rory]

Okay, but who would even reply to this? Like, outside of the cold? We know Mike's leading a good bar to get this on headlines. Who replies this? I mean, right? Yeah. Rayvon would reply.

[Maul]

Stop, stop, if.

[Rory]

All right, you know what?

[Maul]

Stop.

[Rory]

It's yo, by the way, because you my man's. It's still Rayvon. It's up and it's stuck with him. Him. But. Cause you my man.

[Maul]

All right. That's love. I appreciate that.

[Rory]

If I'm Ray Vaughan, I put out a freestyle dissing Joey Badass, and you just confirmed with the mic delete later line that you were dissing the West Coast. So to me, that's a response to my. No.

[Maul]

Yeah, I guess so.

[Rory]

If I'm Ray Vaughn, I'm in the studio now saying, yo, Joey replied to me like, what are we talking about? I'm looking at it that way. If I'm Ray Vaughn as a rapper because he's a talented rapper, it's still you, but. Nah, he got a right to. Ray Vaughn should be able to reply to this. No, he got a right to respond.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Who else, though? That's where I think the book. Not the who book. What? West side Boogie.

[Maul]

I. With Joey. But Joey don't want that. He don't. He don't want to get into that with boogie. No, he. Not that. Not that boogie is. Boogie can boogie one of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Boogie could really. He could. Boogie could really get into that type of.

[Rory]

And I'm. I'm. God damn it. I want to just pretend to have New York bias with everything. Boogie is somebody you should not play with. That would be getting unhealed boogie.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

We got the same therapist. He would cancel that whole and immediate. Immediately get into the craziest mode. And I know he trying to heal and be a better human being. He would go nuts if you ever.

[Maul]

Poked boogie the wrong way.

[Rory]

And I love. I think Joey Badass is great. I just think boogie quietly is one of those that you should not fucking play with.

[Maul]

Yeah. Cause boogie, first of all, boogie don't bother nobody. He. He don't talk about nobody. He don't care what y'all got going on. So for somebody to want to throw a shot at Boogie, I wouldn't. I just don't think it's gonna go the way you and your camp think it's gonna go with Boogie. If you're not well versed in Boogie's ability and his talent, like, it's not gonna go the way you think.

[Rory]

Yo, he. I forgot what freestyle it was. I think it was the leakers one when he did, like, the three different characters. And that second one, he was doing the whole big blood because I was one of the characters. He started breaking down that you don't want to see his homies that have suppressed rage and what they went through as a child. And I was like, that was the craziest way to say all my friends will kill you in a heartbeat that I've ever heard in my life.

[Maul]

Yeah. Boogie is different.

[Rory]

You don't want to see my homies with suppressed childhood issues.

[Maul]

Yeah. Because it can go in immediate. You leave Boogie alone, man. But I am happy that that's crazy.

[Rory]

That we just put Joey in Boogie.

[Damaris]

You said.

[Maul]

Who else who's responding from the west.

[Damaris]

Coast could respond now?

[Rory]

Well, I don't think it's just a West coast thing. I'm with you. I love that he said too much.

[Maul]

West coast dick looking.

[Rory]

I know, but Joe saying, which I love. I'm the king of New York. This. This my. Somebody from New York can't reply.

[Damaris]

They can, but I don't think that they should. Keep.

[Rory]

Keep.

[Maul]

Because he said he's the king of New York. Somebody from New York get mad at that.

[Rory]

How did the Nas and Jay Z beef start?

[Maul]

Oh, no, it was way deeper.

[Rory]

S your name out. Like, what if it was all. I know. But a lot of it came from who was going to be the king after Biggie died. That was a thing. No.

[Maul]

Yeah. But that's. That those are two viable.

[Rory]

That's our issue is that we always have to have a king of New York.

[Maul]

Like, well, that's. Yeah.

[Rory]

So somebody from New York should reply.

[Damaris]

I don't think so. I think that we need to. I think we need to stay united as a front. Or y'all gonna let the west coast take over.

[Maul]

Y. We need to stay united. Damaris, this is not World War Three, I promise you. Like. Like, this is just. Nah.

[Damaris]

But, like, over there on the west coast, like, forming together, and you is inner city fighting.

[Maul]

Like, no, this ain't the time for that.

[Damaris]

Oh, Hop. Both of y'all in the potato sack and work together to get across the line or pick the egg up, whatever the. The goal is, like, we need to stick together. Now is not the time to be fighting.

[Maul]

I like a good fight, though.

[Damaris]

Not ancestrally like, fight them other. No one wins when the family feels.

[Rory]

Nah, a lot of people win when that happens.

[Maul]

I was gonna say it, but I left it alone. Like, all right. I don't know.

[Rory]

That's actually how the family went.

[Maul]

I've seen some shootings come up over families shooting. I've seen a few niggas come up off of that.

[Rory]

We only listen to it once, but I. I might. What's the dirt? This whole situation. He brought up Vernon Boulevard. That ain't in. In Brooklyn. And I know Cole lived in Long Island City off Vernon Boulevard.

[Maul]

Boulevard. I don't know if he said Vernon Boulevard.

[Rory]

Okay. We only knew once. Real quick.

[Maul]

But I don't know if he's.

[Rory]

That might have been a deeper shot at cold.

[Maul]

He said 193.

[Rory]

I'm just starting up.

[Maul]

Okay, 193 in Vernon. That could be anywhere.

[Rory]

I don't. I only know one Vernon.

[Maul]

Well, yeah, Queens. They could be a Vernon. You don't think it's a Vernon Ave or something?

[Rory]

Maybe?

[Maul]

Of course it is. It's a Vernon Avenue. Milwaukee. You know, there's one in Brooklyn.

[Rory]

All I know is at one point, Point Cole was in Long Island City and Vernon is in.

[Maul]

Oh, no, he clearly. He clearly is.

[Damaris]

It's a Verna Ave in Brooklyn.

[Maul]

Of course it is. He clearly. Clearly.

[Rory]

I'm completely making up.

[Maul]

No, no, he clearly.

[Rory]

He clearly talk.

[Maul]

He clearly would love for Cole to respond.

[Damaris]

I hate this neighborhood.

[Maul]

What neighborhood?

[Rory]

Yo, what happened?

[Damaris]

Nah, we cool. Who?

[Rory]

You know, Where's Vernon In Brooklyn. Oh, yeah. Oh, and I see the scheme. He was talking about Marcy, but not. Not Marcy projects. Yeah, yeah, okay.

[Maul]

He gave you all of that. See you missing the nuances of what he's doing.

[Rory]

I'm trying.

[Maul]

That's why you can't be a part of this.

[Rory]

I'm trying to be the content creators that just figured out what hip hop is and just tie everything together. That's not tied together. Nah, there's Vernon in Queens and Cole was there, and Cole is from Queens according to us. So, yeah, she was a shot at. I'm on the real Vernon Cole going.

[Damaris]

To knock your name out his mouth one day.

[Rory]

What bad have I said about jcole?

[Damaris]

Just saying, sometimes you don't got to say bad. Sometimes you can introduce it for other people to say. Bad. And that too.

[Rory]

Joey introduced this. I didn't. I still listen to Mike delete later. I didn't delete it.

[Damaris]

You see him.

[Maul]

Do I still listen to it?

[Damaris]

No. You see what he's saying? Oh, I'm looking for any re. No, I didn't ask you that.

[Maul]

I didn't delete it. It's one of my favorite albums of last year. I had it on my list.

[Rory]

You're such a liar.

[Maul]

It's on my list. Peach. Is it not on my list List?

[Rory]

Yeah, your list is a lot might.

[Maul]

Delete later is it's on my list.

[Rory]

Name one song.

[Maul]

Pie with him and Daylight. Who else is on that beat? Is it. What's the joint with him and B? I like the join with him, boss.

[Rory]

And what's that's not by who else is on pie?

[Maul]

I don't know what else is on it. Who else is on there?

[Rory]

So.

[Maul]

Oh, so okay. Yeah. I like the joint with him and boss. The joint with him and boss is hard. That's my.

[Rory]

You said to grow up.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

The joint with him and boss is hard.

[Maul]

I like to shoot with him and boss. I forgot the name of it, but that joint is hard. Okay. Yeah.

[Rory]

How you how you felt about Trade the truth verse?

[Maul]

I don't know if that stuck to me. That verse didn't really do it for me. That is you, Roy. That is one of my my favorite albums last year.

[Damaris]

I believe you, mom.

[Maul]

Yeah, y'all trying to make something like. I hate Cole, Roy.

[Damaris]

See, it's Rory. It be Rory. Rory's an instigator.

[Rory]

Yes. I'm completely trying to tie in Vernon Boulevards to the yes. I'm I'm hopping right now with since I thing I don't understand why Cole would be mad at me through that. But Joey introduced it. He got a reply. No, no. Why?

[Damaris]

Because why you ain't respond to one of the biggest artists in the world. Why would you respond to Joey Battles? Oh, you did respond, but you took it back. But anyway, if you don't want to be involved, you don't want to be involved.

[Rory]

But this is good sport. To your point that I agree with. I want this to be fun again.

[Damaris]

But what I'm saying is Cole's point. I can't speak for what his actual point was. What he said his point was he ain't want to be involved in the. He didn't want to be involved. He like his piece. Why the would he go get into it with Joey Badass?

[Rory]

No, you think Joey Badass and JCole would take this to some deep family.

[Damaris]

You never know. We were saying the same thing with Kendrick Drake.

[Rory]

Oh no. I knew that was going there.

[Damaris]

I seen you.

[Rory]

They were all playing double Dutch, waiting to hop in. Like someone say a kid first. Like they was all waiting for that. Like I knew where that was about to go for sure. Cole and Joey, I think I could be wrong would just have a sparring match with bars. I don't think Joey is about to go look into Cole's whole past of any mistake he's ever made. I think he would just do some lyrical. No. Okay.

[Maul]

I'm wanting to see it. I don't care who it is. I just want to see people rap. It is what it is. Just rap. Everybody just rap, rap. Get your off. Whatever you got to say.

[Rory]

Repeating myself. I've seen Joey when he just playing back and forth with disses that sway freestyle against Troy AV when he was just. He was chilling smoked him. I don't think Joey is the one to play with with this beef. I know he doesn't have a resume. That's some back and forth. I've seen what he was doing when he was just joking around and he smoked Troy Ave. I don't think Joey's want to play with.

[Maul]

Okay, well listen, he jumped out there. He want the problem, he want the smoke. Said he want all the smoke. Let's see, man.

[Rory]

Joey said I'm the only Brooklyn cap major without a deal. He went crazy on TR staying on music. Did you listen to Mac Miller's album?

[Maul]

No. I saw it came out so people posting about it, but I didn't listen.

[Rory]

To it yet, man. I usually hate what's the name of it because you know I was gonna fuck up. Posthumous Spell it.

[Maul]

Never mind, never mind, never mind. Yeah, never mind, never mind. I'm sorry. I'm sorry about the album.

[Rory]

I usually hate albums that are put out after their death. That's a good way, good way, good.

[Maul]

Way to get around it.

[Rory]

And I liked Circles. Like I thought it was good. But I still was going into this thinking what is this about to be? I'm sure they did some post production after. But the fact that Mac Miller died seven years ago made this probably nine years ago and it sounds like some new in 2025 just speaks to how incredible of a talent that that gentleman was. Like it made me sad but so happy through the entire project that we made me sad that we lost somebody that was so talented and I don't think got to their full potential was just Starting to get there. But if this is the shit he was making eight years ago, nine years ago, Holy. What would he even be on now? This album is incredible. I don't even know where to begin. It's also sad because during it, you can hear how lonely Mac is and, like, where he got to. But my God, the production on this and Mac explaining his feelings at the time is so insane. I don't even what to say about how good this.

[Maul]

Who did the production?

[Rory]

Him.

[Maul]

Oh, he did all the production.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

No, Mac was talented. Mac was. I think, one. We. We speak about it often, but Mac Miller was. He was definitely one of the more talented younger artists that we had. Especially looking down what could have been and, you know, the music that he could have created and given us. I think that, you know, that goes without saying. But I gotta check this out because I did see people online saying some good things about it. One of my boys, he actually texted me earlier today and asked me if I had heard it yet. And I told him no. I said I was gonna get into the album, but he said the same thing. He was like, yo, nah, the album's kind of dope.

[Rory]

This isn't just like a hot take. Cause it just came out type of thing. It's gonna be a year for music for everyone to have to match how good this album is. This is already an album of the year contender in the first month.

[Maul]

Is he doing.

[Rory]

I don't know how much better music could be made this year. Like, this is incredible. Of how good this Mac Miller album is.

[Maul]

Who any features on it or just him?

[Rory]

Sza.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

Which I will say it sounds like older Sza, so I think it probably was done at that time and not her just hopping on after it. It sounds like older scissors to me. Yo, Five Dollar Pony Ride is like. You ever heard a song was like, damn, I wish I wrote that, or damn, I wish I produced that beat. He has a. The whole concept of telling her, I wish. I wish your pops would have got you that $5 pony rod. Because now I'm dealing with all this. Failed fathers, fail. Back to the porn star.

[Maul]

Here we go. Fail fathers.

[Rory]

It's jazz. It's Neo soul. It's. I. I just wish he was still alive to see where this would have went. Because I think if you have Mack making this nine years ago of where his career would have went, we would be having a different Big three conversation.

[Maul]

Really?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

Wow. Okay.

[Rory]

We know Matt can make his Anderson pack. We've heard certain shit that Mack has done. If he wants to get on actual. Like, the big playlist with this is a hit, Matt can do that.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But he clearly took a different path with his music on top of making those hits. If he was doing this nine years ago, I think Mac would have taken us to a whole different place. I think this superstar conversation that we have, like, who's going to be the next one? Mac Miller would have been that. I know it's weird to say because we can't prove it. And I've actually been the one that. I hate. The Biggie J conversation. Jay would have been big. Well, big died, so that's what it is. But I don't know, man. If you're making this type of music at that time, nine years later, Mack is there, and the trajectory of what he was doing, the four projects that he had put out within the time period that could have been recorded. Mac Miller definitely is in the conversation of who the next superstar is or who would be the next Big Three, without question.

[Maul]

Do we think he has a lot more unreleased music left? I don't. I don't know much about how Mack was in the studio if he was a studio rat. And he would.

[Rory]

I was never personally there, so. But from what I've heard with people that have been with Mack, he was similar to a Wayne or Tupac, where you are in the studio all day and you're knocking out four songs a day, and all of them are incredible.

[Maul]

Okay. So then he has a whole. He has a whole vault of shit left.

[Rory]

I mean, this is. It's unreal how good it is.

[Maul]

I gotta check it out. You don't really talk about albums like that. Like, the way you talking about it, like, you only get like this over the child drums. Like, when you talking about Child drums and Mac Miller, it's like one of the same. Same. You know what I'm saying? You get. You get. You get very emotional when you talk.

[Rory]

About Child's drums still in Montreal. Mac must have went up there and.

[Maul]

You heard some Child drums.

[Rory]

No, I didn't hear any. But I will say, as someone that. I mean, you guys know I'm a huge neo soul nerd. This is where we talk about, like, boom bap and neo soul. That it hasn't really evolved. And it stays. When you hear that type of. It's like, all right, they doing the neo soul thing. Yeah, this is evolved neo soul to me. Like, he. He's taking a genre that is so good. And I haven't heard people push it the way that he does with this project or his other projects as well. Like, this is. This is the Blue Note on steroids. As far as what he put together on this, I. I can't say enough about it. That made me cry in the car, cry at home.

[Maul]

Really, It's.

[Rory]

It's so good.

[Maul]

You were crying.

[Rory]

Yeah. There's certain records that. That.

[Damaris]

That got me, you know, mall hate tears. You should have never said that that stoned.

[Maul]

I've never heard a say they cry. Listen to a Mac Miller album.

[Rory]

Stone. When you heard that before, when Stone came on, I was like, yo, did me and Mac date the same girl? I didn't know. He's asking my brothers.

[Maul]

Damn. Yeah, but crying, listening to the Mac Miller album is crazy.

[Damaris]

You got to type, you know, music.

[Rory]

Doesn'T make you emotional ever.

[Maul]

Yeah, but I don't know if. If Mac Miller's music ever made me emotional.

[Damaris]

You never heard Lucky ass.

[Maul]

Yeah, I listen to Mac, but I never cried listening to Mac Miller.

[Rory]

I know you would hate from me to quote Cole, but when he. When he gave. When he asked Summer, where's my hug at?

[Damaris]

That's not what you. Such a. That's not what he said. Don't piss me off.

[Rory]

My bad. When. When he gave Summer an audio hug, and he said once he had kids, he started crying more. I. I get that. Yeah, I. I cry much more now that I have children, but music made me cry before Amara. But, yeah, listen to his Mac album. Not that I was. Was thinking about my kid, but you become way more emotional for some reason.

[Maul]

Okay, I understand that. I can. I can definitely respect that. I don't know if I'll be crying listening to Mac Miller, but you've never.

[Rory]

Cried to music ever in your life.

[Maul]

I think I cried listening to music, like, right around the time probably, like, somebody close to me passed. So I don't know if it was the music or if it was just. I was just in a state of. Of grieving and just, you know, emotional at that time. Anyway.

[Rory]

Okay, I. I did want to ask you, in a very respectful way, how did you feel when you heard the third verse of Lucifer that is about your brother that passed? Like, what was that feeling like?

[Maul]

I don't remember. I. I remember when. The first time I heard it, I think we. We were in a session, and. And it wasn't emotional then, but I think once the album came out and, you know, listening to it, it kind of. Some emotions came. But even then, like, I didn't cry. That was more the emotion that pulled out of me was anger. It wasn't even like tears. It was just more like. You know what I'm saying? Like, exactly what Jay said was like, yeah, absolutely. Like I feel like that. You know what I mean? But yeah. Nah, I never really cried listening to music though. I don't know if any music has ever made me like cry that it was so good and it was so heartf. Well, I cried like. I don't know if.

[Damaris]

Rory, you mentioned stoned. I have the lyrics from stoned. Pulled up the second verse. This sounds like your bag in the water is shallow like the lies she tells. Can't run from your shadow, can't hide from yourself.

[Rory]

He was cooking.

[Damaris]

She hates that she cries when she's all by herself. And she's always all by herself. She hardly talks in conversation. But when she do, all her words get lost in translation. He was, no, she can't move cuz she paralyzed from the fear that she fantasized. The doctor tried to analyze. They cannot find anything that's wrong with her. Her parents never got. I had to make this song for her. I wish she would learn to laugh. Isolation, she locking the bathroom door.

[Rory]

And this was fucked up. I'm gonna make this about men. Why do the chicks with the best pussy act just like this?

[Damaris]

You are such a child.

[Maul]

But how do you know?

[Rory]

And now we're. Now we're victims of being with these type of women.

[Maul]

But how you know the sex is good with her though?

[Rory]

Every chick that has the most fire pussy is this exact verse. Matt gotta know her.

[Maul]

Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. There is a correlation between a girl having good sex and her being a. Being a liar. It's a correlation for sure.

[Damaris]

But he didn't even say nothing about lying.

[Maul]

Yeah, and the water is shallow like the lies that she tells. What are you talking about? He started. He led with that. He led what? She's lying. What are you talking about?

[Rory]

Can't hide from yourself. Yeah, no, Mac was cooking on this shit.

[Maul]

I gotta listen to the album, man.

[Rory]

And I think Mac Miller is the only exception to white on white crime within the hip hop community. As somebody that is a white person in this culture, we are supposed to hate all other white people that are in this culture at all times, no matter what. Mac has superseded that entire thing. There's not one white person that would be like, nah, Mac ain't really like that.

[Maul]

Yeah, no. Everybody has the same. Whenever people talk about Mac Miller, they like other artists especially, they always tend to have the same things to say about them. Like, super talented, great person. You know, it's always positive. Positive things that you hear people say about Mac.

[Rory]

You know what's funny with that? Outside of artists, like, even within media or the industry, I've always had weird side conversations with people. Like, it's the real Jeff and Eric. We became cool God knows how long ago. But the first thing that they had brought up to me was like, yeah, no, usually, like, white people, like, don't like each other. Within the hip hop community, Bootleg Kev, I think, has one of the best podcasts. When we got to the studio, he's like, bro, I was so shocked, like, how much you promoted my pod. Like, usually every other white person in hip hop hates me. And I'm like, yeah, that's a thing. Rosenberg, too. He typically like other white people, and we have to hate everyone else. And him and I joke about that, too. Like, we're the only white people that like each other in the industry. That's a real thing. Thing.

[Maul]

Well, that's because obviously, this is black culture, so. And, you know, we hate each other, so y'all got to come in and y'all gotta hate. Y'all gotta hate yourselves.

[Rory]

That's an ego thing. I can be the only white guy.

[Maul]

No, nobody.

[Rory]

There's other great white artists, cuz, you.

[Damaris]

Know, it's kind of like.

[Rory]

It's kind of.

[Maul]

That's what y'all be saying to yourself.

[Damaris]

It's kind of like when you sneak in the cookout and it's like, all right, I snuck in. And it's like other people trying to sneak. It's like, damn, you gonna blow my cover. Like, get the out of here. Like, you drawing too much attention to.

[Maul]

Like, I'm the only. It's only room for one colonizer here. Yeah, that type of energy.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, exactly. That's what I think. A lot of white people in the industry have that type of mentality, Even down to Sean in the party mentality. Most people don't think that me and Sean would hate each other. I'm like, no, I like him a lot.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I could be the only white person in the highlight room. Yeah, I have to be that guy.

[Maul]

You don't. That's just so stupid that people.

[Rory]

I do hate a lot of white rappers, though.

[Maul]

Why?

[Damaris]

Like, who?

[Rory]

All right, man, you want me? Make the list.

[Damaris]

All right, well, who do you like? Let's say who do you like? Because then that'll leave out who you don't like.

[Rory]

I like Mac Miller. Okay.

[Damaris]

Damn.

[Rory]

I think Jack Harlow Is great. Not all of his stuff is for me, but I do think he's very talented and I appreciate that. He's probably the only white rapper that Bad bitches like in history. Or the only white rapper that really played in the clubs, consisting recently.

[Damaris]

Bad. Bad like Mac Miller. But I get what you're saying.

[Rory]

I know that, but you bad. Yeah. Some of the prettiest women I know are huge Mac Miller fans. I'm saying Bad like ones that go to the club with bbls are rapping along to Jack Harlow. They're not. They're not sitting here rapping along the Jack Harlow.

[Maul]

What songs you talking?

[Damaris]

I'm vanilla baby, I choke you but I ain't no killer, baby.

[Rory]

That is right there.

[Damaris]

She's 26. He's saying that she's.

[Maul]

Yeah, but that's.

[Rory]

You look better than the YouTube.

[Maul]

All right, but outside of that record.

[Damaris]

What was the other one? Shut up.

[Rory]

Nail tech.

[Maul]

I don't know.

[Damaris]

What's the signale Tech?

[Rory]

First Class Nail tech.

[Maul]

Those Bad were all girls are not rapping First Class.

[Rory]

You don't think First Class.

[Maul]

No, I don't.

[Rory]

First Class didn't play in the club.

[Maul]

I didn't say that. I said girls are not rapping along to that.

[Rory]

Yes, they are.

[Maul]

No, they not, man.

[Rory]

I've been in Little Sister and watched a bunch of Bad with bbls.

[Damaris]

How does First Class go?

[Rory]

I'm not a bad. I don't know.

[Maul]

Yeah, women are not rapping to that song. Rory's lying right now. You ain't seeing no women rap to First Class.

[Rory]

The Hook.

[Maul]

The.

[Rory]

Yes, they are. What are you talking about?

[Damaris]

I mean, what's.

[Maul]

That's a sample. That don't count.

[Rory]

That's what I'm. All right.

[Maul]

That don't count. That's a sample.

[Rory]

Bad are. Are rapping to Little Baby, too? No, they're going to the Hook. They're singing along with the Hook.

[Damaris]

I'm saying Bad is rapping wanton knees from top to bottom.

[Maul]

Yeah, he got the. He got. See, he don't even know know. He don't even know how real. Know all of them lyrics.

[Rory]

Who is rapping every word in the club when you're. No, they're the Hook. I'm saying Jack Harlo plays consistently in the club and is the first white rapper that I've ever seen. Where Bad are dancing and going along to the Hook. That doesn't happen.

[Damaris]

Tashi White H. It's Takashi considered. White 69.

[Rory]

His name is Daniel Hernandez.

[Damaris]

Okay, so no Bubba Sparks for show.

[Maul]

All right, man.

[Rory]

You know what's very funny? He said Bubba Sparks. We were having this argument over the weekend in our group chat, and I brought up Bubba Sparks.

[Maul]

Bubba Sparks. Who else, man?

[Rory]

Consistently is what I'm saying.

[Maul]

Yeah, man, it's rocking everywhere.

[Damaris]

Please.

[Maul]

What clubs are y'all at? So I don't go there.

[Damaris]

You want to hear I found you, Ms. New Booty?

[Rory]

That was my.

[Maul]

But that record is like 20 something years old, and.

[Damaris]

And it was playing in the club, and we were shaking ass.

[Rory]

Let's rewind. I said consistently. I don't. I'm sure at a club, somebody was playing smack that all on the floor. I just don't think Eminem played consistently in the club.

[Maul]

I don't think any of these rappers, y'all naming them, played consistently in the club. If I'm being honest.

[Rory]

If you are telling me First Class and Nail Tech was not played in the club. I don't even know.

[Maul]

I'm not saying it today.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I don't know. First, Second Nail. I can't hear those songs.

[Maul]

Not when it came out, not when it was fresh and it was on all the playlists. I'm talking about out. If you go to the club tomorrow, you think they're playing any Jack Hollow records.

[Rory]

No, but can we not act like for two years he was dominating charts and the club?

[Maul]

I'm not saying that.

[Rory]

I'm just saying today you're having a separate conversation. Like, yeah, there's plenty of hit records that just don't continue to play in the club. Like, they just move on after two years, especially in this era. So what. What would. What are you getting at?

[Maul]

All I'm saying is I don't. I don't think that girls in the club rapping Jack Harlow lyrics, Okay? I don't think what's poppin.

[Damaris]

Brand New whip just hopped in. That was being played a lot.

[Maul]

I like that record more than First Class. Nail Tech. Is that the one you talking about?

[Damaris]

No, that's what's poppin.

[Maul]

Oh, I like Nail Tech a lot.

[Rory]

Oh, wait, never mind. I like way more rappers, white rappers than I thought I did.

[Damaris]

Okay?

[Rory]

I like Action Bronson.

[Maul]

Okay? He. They not playing that in the Class club.

[Rory]

That's a separate conversation.

[Maul]

Oh, all right.

[Rory]

I thought you were saying we backed him. White rappers. I like. Cuz I usually hate white rappers.

[Damaris]

G, you don't. Not underrated.

[Maul]

I think G is underrated, honestly.

[Rory]

But I would be lying to say that. I just be, like, in the crib of the car, like, just Listening to G like that. I don't. But I respect that he has hits. He played in the club. Yeah, I take it back. It wasn't just Jack Harlow gave was. But that was probably Cardi B that helped with that. I like lp.

[Damaris]

Never heard of him.

[Rory]

You're not even hip hop crazy. I like Paul Wall.

[Damaris]

Love Paul Wall.

[Maul]

Yeah, but he ain't had a record.

[Rory]

Out of how long the people, champ. I mean, it's not a classic. Classic album in my.

[Maul]

What do you mean, bro? What do you mean?

[Rory]

Because I don't think you Internet going up. Huh?

[Maul]

I don't think you've played Paul Wall music in your phone in probably seven years.

[Rory]

Okay, but if it did. Come on.

[Maul]

So what are we talking about here? You not listening to this shit, man.

[Rory]

But I like Paul. You're saying I don't like Paul Wall.

[Maul]

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying you don't listen to him.

[Damaris]

Why is Kid Rock under White Day?

[Rory]

I sit sideways. Look at me. Look at me right now. Am I not sitting sideways?

[Maul]

Yeah, you're right. You got it.

[Rory]

This is up front. I'm sideways right now, right?

[Maul]

Absolutely.

[Rory]

I live my life off Paul Wall's lyrics.

[Damaris]

You like Ashero Roth.

[Rory]

Yeah, Asher is next. I like Vinnie Pass. See, she don't even know Jedi mind tricks.

[Damaris]

No, you yellow.

[Rory]

Yo, you know what's hilarious? I never knew Vinnie Paz was white.

[Maul]

Vinnie Paz?

[Rory]

Vinnie Paz was a boxer. And there was a rapper from Jedi Mind Tricks named Vinnie Paz that took his name from the boxer Vinnie Paz. I just assumed he was like some Puerto Rican from Philly.

[Damaris]

His name is Vincenzo Luke.

[Rory]

Vinnie Paz was a name a Jedi mind tricks album or song or anything. Exactly. So you don't even know.

[Maul]

But if somebody like yo, Vinnie Pass is coming upstairs, you think that I'm expecting a black guy to walk through the door.

[Rory]

The amount of rappers that have named themselves after Italian mafia people that are just flat out black. What are you talking about? No, I didn't assume somebody says was just some Italian guy. South Philly.

[Maul]

But that's a. That's a great assumption though, right?

[Rory]

But I knew Vinnie Paz is one of my favorite fighters in a car accident and was boxing with the whole. That homegirl had in mean girls. You know, the thing. Yeah, I know he was boxing in the ring with that. That was one of my favorite boxers as a kid. I assumed it was just some black or. Or Puerto Rican guy from Philly that took the Vinnie Pass.

[Maul]

All right, back to my statement, though. You don't listen. You don't listen to none of these dudes.

[Rory]

You're naming Jedi mind tricks. I listen. Listen to.

[Maul]

All right, man, you dope, man. When you listen to that.

[Rory]

I throw a gentleman tricks at any time, okay?

[Maul]

Anytime.

[Damaris]

I know when you lying. You do that voice when you lying.

[Maul]

He's lying, man. Look, I told you I'm here to listen to it, but I'm gonna start calling it out. This nigga's lying. He don't listen to that. I know what Rory listens to, man. Rory ain't never came in here and turned Jedi mind mind on.

[Rory]

First of all, Vinnie Pass says nothing about Jedi mind tricks. That's how much I do know them. And they were part of my childhood that I saw Vinnie Paz and knew exactly what group he was in.

[Maul]

All right, all right, fam. Look, I'm not.

[Rory]

No, because I. I get it. No, I'm lying. I don't listen to Jedi mind tricks that often. But when I was a kid, I listen to that all the time. I had all I had the CDs.

[Maul]

I'm not saying you never listen to it.

[Rory]

I don't. I don't get in the whip and be on some Jedi mind.

[Maul]

That's all I'm speaking to is that you don't listen to that. Now, I'm not saying you didn't at one point in your life today and seven years late, earlier seven years ago, you didn't know why.

[Rory]

Why would that be the standard of. If you with it or not, there's plenty of music that was part of your childhood that you just don't listen to anymore.

[Maul]

No, because you still listen to music that's older than that consistently. That's.

[Damaris]

I don't. I don't throw on Bow wow as much as I could, but I really. With Bow Wow, I don't think that takes away from it. Fresh as I'm is is on like one of my top 50 is favorite songs of all time.

[Maul]

Yeah, but Baby D, if Bow wow put out a song today, you're not rushing to listen to that.

[Damaris]

No, exactly my point.

[Maul]

If Vinnie Pass drop an EP tonight, this nigga's not listening. He's not listening to it.

[Rory]

If I knew about it, I'd be like, damn, Vinny Pass. I would love to hear that. Jedi mind tricks. Visions of Gandhi. This actually goes back to my point of not knowing Vinnie Paz was white. Visions of Gandhi Is a Muslim praying outside of whatever that that started the country is in Philly. No, I didn't think he was white.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

Thought there was a bunch of Muslims from this whole album, though. I would. I'm going to listen to this on the way home because I forgot. I just don't keep in my mind of every album that I listen to, but it takes going through a white rapper list.

[Damaris]

So it's what it sounded like to me is that you like every white rapper that's not Eminem and Iggy Azalea. That's what I'm pulling from it.

[Rory]

Iggy's white.

[Damaris]

Yes, that's what I'm pulling. I'm just saying what.

[Maul]

What you thought Iggy was? What did you think he was? Let's just go through it real quick. We kind of. We got a few more minutes. What did you think Iggy was?

[Rory]

There's plenty of rappers that. I get it. You put on some type of accent when that's. That's part of the game, in the tone, being from Australia and then talking like that. I totally understand why Q Tip started a Twitter to give her a dissertation on hip hop. Who the fuck are you?

[Damaris]

See, y'all don't say that. Y'all don't say that. Just Elliot.

[Rory]

Q Tip started a Twitter to. To put her through the ringer.

[Maul]

You heard the marriage Harris. Y'all don't say that about Idris Elba.

[Damaris]

Y'all say that about Damson.

[Maul]

Damson ain't rapping, is he?

[Damaris]

Nah, he be talking, though.

[Maul]

Yeah, but they actors. That's different.

[Damaris]

What the you think rappers are these days?

[Maul]

I mean, yeah, point.

[Rory]

Not Vinny Pass.

[Maul]

Yeah, not Vinnie. Vinnie. Vinny really, like.

[Rory]

Wait, but calling an actor a culture vulture for putting on an accent to play a role is great.

[Maul]

That's why I said the best. Why would you say is he's an actor?

[Rory]

Yo, if you rewatch the wireless there. I didn't know he was English at the time. When I watched the Wire. Re watching it, you can catch so much. That's like, dog.

[Maul]

What the. You can hear.

[Rory]

Yo, when he's beating up Avon, he uses the hard er with the N word.

[Damaris]

Sorry, Peach. Sorry, Peach. Sorry.

[Maul]

Wait, why you can't say it?

[Damaris]

YouTube demonetizes us.

[Maul]

Oh, word. All right.

[Rory]

Shout out to YouTube for that on MLK Day. Just for today.

[Maul]

Just for today. Shout out to you. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know they was demonetized for us saying their word.

[Rory]

Go watch the fight scene between Avon and Stringer when he explaining that he killed D'Angelo and all that. He uses the hard er in an English accent. In the middle of a Baltimore fight.

[Maul]

Yeah, you could catch it. You could definitely catch it when you go listen to like a lot of Idris's early, early move. Even now, now more than ever, I don't think he tries to hide it as much anymore because obviously everybody knows. But definitely during the wire, he was. It was still a thing that a lot of people didn't know that he was from the uk.

[Rory]

I don't listen to Lil Dicky. I love the show. I'll go there. Mgk. I've heard. I just haven't gotten into MGK like that. And that might be. That might be white hate. No, I'm saying. I'm saying that could be speaking to my white hate. He's probably way more talented than I think he is. And that was self hating. Like, come on, man. Yeah, And I even heard his interviews. Like dmx, a favorite rapper. That's one of mine. Like, I should like it, but that's white hate.

[Maul]

It's funny.

[Rory]

It's absolute hate.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you hating because he with Megan Fox.

[Rory]

Why? I mean, she's not gonna like me. I'm not. I didn't think I had a shot.

[Damaris]

I'm just saying, Megan, fine. That's. If you was to date a white woman, you should do that. That kind, that brand, that kind. You know what I'm talking about?

[Maul]

You don't. With Jojo Pellegrino.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, that's my guy.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Big Staten Island. So you like every Andrea from Mob Wives. And. And then I was like, all right, man, go back with Method Meth in them. Yeah, go help Meth beat up his daughter's ex boyfriend.

[Damaris]

I with JoJo, allegedly.

[Rory]

What do we think happened there? Because we've gotten so many conflicting reports with this Method man situation. It came out that he was arrested for beating up his daughter's ex boyfriend from nine years ago. And then things got fuzzy. Can we even really report an act, like an accurate description of what happened? I don't know.

[Maul]

That was Method man being a good father. Nah, that's all sound like. Sound like he might have put hands on his daughter, got into a little argument, fight. Methy man waited nine years till he caught him.

[Damaris]

Well, authorities and investigators and the news say that Methy got hit first.

[Maul]

There you go.

[Rory]

That's a good lawyer.

[Maul]

Yeah, great lawyer.

[Damaris]

It's possible that he did get hit first. We don't know.

[Maul]

Let me tell you what's possible. Methy man did not get hit first. I could tell you. I could tell you right now.

[Damaris]

Well, he Said that he swung first. So he could have swung. Meth could have gotten his face.

[Rory]

Yeah, Method could have confronted.

[Maul]

Oh, yeah, he swung. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Swing we gonna get. Because now I'm. I'm. I'm in my rights to defend myself now. Meth know the law. Yeah, get him to swing. You know, get in his face, punk.

[Damaris]

I would have jumped in.

[Maul]

You to what?

[Damaris]

Jumped in and help Meth. I know he didn't need my help, but I'd have helped him if you. He did a lot for the culture.

[Rory]

And this was allegedly at a gym, right?

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

All right, there's crunch fitness. There's no rules in that situation of I'm confronting somebody. If somebody hit Amara, there will be no confrontation. I will be taking a 45 pound weight behind you and cracking that over your head.

[Damaris]

Yeah, well, let's not.

[Rory]

There would there be no discussion.

[Damaris]

Like, let's not put domestic violence on his daughter because anything could have happened. We don't know that's fair. Let's not.

[Maul]

It's a safe assumption that if it comes to blows, like whatever happened, I see my. My. My daughter's ex boyfriend and it comes to blows, it would be behind something that was. You know what I mean?

[Damaris]

Like, he could have. He could have disrespected. You don't know how long they was dating. He could have said something. They could have broke up, had a nasty breakup, got on the phone with Meth and said, man, your daughter. You out of here. Suck my dick. It could have been.

[Rory]

And all right, this is why we. We. You are correct. But we don't think meth. I don't think you're getting meth off his square off. Just some words in regards to that. Like, no, that's why everyone is safely assuming it had to do with some type of violence. Like if homie was cheating on his daughter, of course Meth would be very upset about that. I don't think you getting Method man office square in a gym. It's not going based off unless being just a.

[Maul]

Unless like you saying, I approach my. My daughter's ex and we're having a conversation, and then he disrespects me.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's different.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's different.

[Damaris]

He could have robbed her. Like, he could have did. He could have stolen from her. It could have be anything. I don't want to put domestic violence.

[Rory]

You are correct and I apologize for that. You are right there. But it has to be something nasty. That's a man off his square like that. No.

[Maul]

Yeah, I'M be on the side of the dude put his hands on his daughter. And Matthew was like, okay. He waited nine long years to catch him.

[Damaris]

And that's why I just don't believe it, because I feel like if somebody put their hands on meth daughter, he'd have been handled before nine years came about.

[Maul]

I mean, homie might have moved.

[Rory]

Yeah. Something would disappear.

[Maul]

True. Yeah. You know, met the man is her father. You gonna. You gonna get about of here. You know, you know what's going to happen. You know he looking for you, so.

[Damaris]

Call him slippers having meth and red whoop your ass. Yo, I played Def Jam Vendetta. He has some moves that's crazy.

[Rory]

First of all, not only meth, you have a red man that hasn't in two years. You losing that fight. A backed up Red. He whooping anybody that looks at him wrong.

[Maul]

See, this is why. This is why you can't tell people when you going through a journey and like coming up cuz then y'all make jokes.

[Rory]

Making better yourself.

[Maul]

Yeah, trying to Red. Trying to better himself. He ain't smoking. You know, he trying to live right.

[Rory]

Imagine being backed up for two years. You got two years of sperm just sitting right now with that testosterone. You knocking anybody out that looks how Meek said tasterone.

[Maul]

What? What Meek said that don't Esterone ain't.

[Damaris]

Up like, leave Meek alone.

[Maul]

All right, I'm sorry.

[Damaris]

I'm starting an anti defamation league for Meek. I'm tired of y'all.

[Maul]

What?

[Rory]

That's not.

[Damaris]

I'm. I'm tired here. I'm tired of y'all violating Meek first.

[Maul]

Yeah, it don't work like that, Damaris. It don't. I'm sorry. He's the one that is Anti Defamation league for Meek. No, don't work.

[Rory]

You got to sue Meek for that.

[Damaris]

Nah, I'm tired of y'all def.

[Rory]

He's the one that puts a defamation on himself t of they they asked him on.

[Maul]

I think it's up that y'all giving Trump all this credit for Tik Tok when Meek is the one that said sell it to me. And everything been cool since. Since Meek tweeted that. That Tik Tok been straight points for me.

[Rory]

If you think about it. 90 Day came back. We don't really know where it's at.

[Damaris]

Meek got it.

[Maul]

You know him and his man, him and him and what's his name? Reuben.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Maul]

Never know I. I know.

[Rory]

You never know I.

[Damaris]

For sure.

[Maul]

No, we know. We. We know.

[Rory]

Listen, man, Saquan ran for what, 200 yards. Philly meek. I think Meek tweeted that day. Saquon not getting 20 yards in the playoffs without me and.

[Maul]

But not without Tik Tok. Speaking of the game, Peach, who you got? Who you like? Oh, no, you Kansas City. I can't even ask Peach that. I keep forgetting Peaches from Kansas City.

[Rory]

We think points were shaved.

[Maul]

Nah, I don't think points were shaved. The refs. The refs was a little.

[Rory]

You don't think points were shaved the last, the last two games?

[Maul]

N. The refs was a little, little shaky though. It was certain calls that they kind of like turned their head to. Definitely.

[Rory]

I never seen field goal get blocked so easily.

[Maul]

Nah, that's. That happen.

[Rory]

I've never seen that in my life.

[Maul]

Yeah, that happens often, man. That happens like that. Not like that, but that you could block a field, go punch. That happens all the time.

[Rory]

Yeah, sure. In that scenario.

[Maul]

Don't do that. Don't be one of those people that think that the league is cheating for K. For Kansas City.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, I think every player gets a script at the top of the year and they follow it and they have rehearsals and anyway, this weekend, Philly.

[Maul]

And Washington, this thing is the first time they playing in like what, 30 some years? I mean right around Peach.

[Rory]

No, I'm saying like in the playoffs. I know what mall was getting at. Thank you. Peace for cleaning that up. I knew I'm always saying. Yeah, in the, in, in the playoffs.

[Maul]

Yes.

[Rory]

I mean NFC championship period. I can't remember any time that that happened.

[Maul]

This gonna be a good game. I'm not gonna lie. I, I, I, I didn't have Washington going this far. I might be a believer now. I know Jaden, he had a great year. Arguably a MVP season. I don't know, man.

[Damaris]

34, 35 years.

[Maul]

First time they playing in meeting the playoffs since 1990, dog. I don't know, man.

[Rory]

Has anyone checked on Delaware? They about to explode that all that traffic. Well, they, I mean they're split between. Yeah, Eagles and the Commanders.

[Maul]

The Commanders. That's a terrible. They got to change that name.

[Rory]

Yo, if you had a chance and.

[Maul]

I'm, you know what's. Look how funny God is. Boston might win it all with that nasty ass name Commanders. They might win it all this year.

[Rory]

Nobody, nobody wants that super bowl merch.

[Maul]

Nobody's wearing that Commanders merch. Nobody's wearing that.

[Rory]

And what did the Cleveland Indians call themselves again? The Guardians. Why? Yo, when you get. I understand teams that have been around for 50, 60 years. You have a shitty name because it was the 30s. You have a chance to rename it and you go with the Guardians and the Commanders.

[Damaris]

But all this.

[Rory]

Cool. I liked Washington football team before they did the. Like that year. To me that's fire merch. I'm buying a Super Bowl Washington football team Merch. That's Commander.

[Damaris]

What you Commander.

[Rory]

What about DC is. Is Cause the government. Like, that's what they trying to say.

[Maul]

Yeah. You're not going to try to tie that in a little bit?

[Damaris]

It could have been the agents.

[Rory]

No, call them the Washington irs.

[Maul]

Washington agents. Washington agents is crazy.

[Rory]

If you're going to do that, lean into it all the way. Make the stadium a Pentagon. Like, you got to go all the way. Hit it with a Tomahawk missile and say it was a plane.

[Maul]

They got to rename that team next year.

[Rory]

I'm sorry you're renaming the name after you.

[Damaris]

That's because it's over. They come in because they gotta.

[Maul]

They gotta. Obviously they have a really good team. So they're gonna be good for some years.

[Rory]

Like they're not renaming the team. They're good.

[Maul]

The Commanders is nasty.

[Damaris]

Guardians or the Commanders Worst.

[Maul]

The Commanders is the worst.

[Damaris]

N. The Guardians is.

[Maul]

No way. No way. The Commanders is terrible.

[Rory]

Guardians might be the worst name. Like with his angels in the outfield. That's the worst thing I've ever heard in my life.

[Maul]

The. The Commanders is the worst team ever in sports. That is the worst. That sound like a. You know those games they used to come out on Nintendo where it was like, because of copyright, they couldn't use like the Yankees. So it'd be like the New York.

[Rory]

Yeah. When it. When Jordan said no and they called him Player 99.

[Maul]

Exactly. It's like that's what this feel like. It's. They got to change that. But either way, Philly and Washington and then we got Kansas City and Buffalo. This is going to be a fun AFC and NFC championship. I don't know who I like. I think I want to. My heart is saying that Jalen Hurts is going to be 100% next week. But if he's not, Washington might. Might beat. They might beat Philly. If jalen hurts ain't 100 healthy, Washington's going to the Super Bowl.

[Rory]

I mean, for everyone that. That was outraged with Wayne in the Super Bowl. I want the same energy for Wale performing at a Commander's game. I want the same energy for all of Griselda to perform at the Bills games. Like why. Why can't we just get as angry for other shit, too.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Gotta support these rappers.

[Maul]

No, I like. I like all of those guys being. I love Griselda being at all the Buffalo games. I think that's just dope for the city. It's dope for. And it just kind of, you know, integrates the team with, you know, local guys from the city and all of that. That rep the city as well. So I like all of that shit. Wale go to every game. Let Gilly and Wild go to every Philly game. All of that shit is dope. I like to see shit like that.

[Damaris]

Are y'all rolling the Bills?

[Rory]

Gilly and Wallow should host like, the beginning.

[Maul]

Are we going for the Bills?

[Damaris]

Are y'all. It's a New York team. Don't be weird.

[Rory]

No, we said before I want to see Detroit or Buffalo. This was before Alex, obviously. I want to see those two cities get a chip. So I'm here for the Bills all the way, man.

[Maul]

I'm. Listen, man, you going for the Eagles, you bum? Me? No, I like the Bills, but if I'm. If I was a gambling person, you got to go with Kansas City.

[Damaris]

No, I'm not talking about gambling. I'm talking about who do you want to win?

[Maul]

I would like to see Buffalo get one.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Maul]

Absolutely. Yeah. I would like to see Buffalo get one.

[Rory]

I'm so conflicted this year because I hate the Eagles so much, and as a collective, I hate every Philadelphia sports fan that exists. As individuals, they're great. But when you guys come together, awful people. Yeah. Yeah. I think we should sacrifice all of you.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Immediately. No congestion prices. Just kill all those people, and we'd be fine.

[Maul]

Right.

[Rory]

I love Saquon so much that, like, I. I love this story of what. What the Giants did to him. I do want to see him get that shit.

[Maul]

Like, I'm not.

[Rory]

That's the biggest you ever. You had one of the best seasons you've ever had. After on camera, your GM was like, I mean, we got Daniel Jones.

[Maul]

Let's.

[Rory]

Let's put the team around him. Do we really need Saquon like that and pay him? Nah, pay the guy.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

He went right down the turnpike having a crazy as a you to the Giants, which I don't even want to see.

[Maul]

I wouldn't be mad at that. I wouldn't be mad at Saquon. He.

[Rory]

He deserves crazy trophy.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And, like, not to get too deep, but the running back position is not what it was at all anymore. So to see a running back be so Such a big piece now is great to see again between Derek Henry and him it stopped being a thing. Yeah there's no more Marshall Fox anymore of like we are going to change the offense with our running back so. I love to see Saquon doing that for the Eagles and I it makes my stomach hurt right now that I'm saying that I fucking hate the Eagles so.

[Maul]

Yeah but that's because of Saquon. You respect Saquon. You want to see him.

[Rory]

Yeah but I but my hate for the Eagles is probably just as high.

[Maul]

I don't know if. I don't know if Philly could. Could Jaden. Jaden is a. He's a problem bro. That young quarterback is a problem. That team is very confident again if Jalen Hurts is 100% the Eagles is going to the Super bowl. But if he's 100 hurt and they come they look similar to what they did yesterday. I don't know it might. The commanders might get them. That's nasty. But the commanders might get them out of it.

[Rory]

What if Meek comes out the tunnel running with the flag for the Eagles? No like he's leading the let.

[Maul]

No let's not even put none of that energy. Let's just have the Eagles have Jalen Hurts lead his team.

[Rory]

That image is only funny to me. Meek running out of the tunnel with the Eagles.

[Maul]

I see the jokes already online. Just let Jalen Hurts walk his team out. But I do I would like to see Buffalo in. It's hard to get bet against Kansas City but that's gonna be but it's gonna be fun to watch Mahomes and Josh Allen go at it. So I mean I think that the remaining four teams Baltimore. A lot of people have Baltimore favorited with Lamar couldn't hold on to the ball drop passes, too many turnovers.

[Damaris]

Now I feel about the Ravens how you feel about Philly. That's why I'm a Steelers fan.

[Rory]

Oh yeah they've been putting belt to.

[Damaris]

Ass for a while. Yeah like my damn never like my whole life.

[Maul]

Yeah so it's that go back to Ray Lewis.

[Damaris]

Yeah yeah it's tough. I hate them niggas like a deep seated them and the Packers.

[Maul]

It's gonna be fun though. This AFC and NFC weekend is going to be fun though. I think the four best teams are the there and they all have players that we like. I think we all like all four quarterbacks. Probably I mean probably the yeah the top I mean obviously Lamar but which I still think Lamar might be. He might be M.V.P. yeah, I know. I know. They don't. They say they don't count the playoffs and what happens, but they should. I think Lamar Jackson to be MVP this year. He should be. If not him, who you give it to? Josh Allen. Yeah.

[Rory]

Saquon.

[Maul]

Nah, it's close. What Lamar and Josh Allen did all year. Jaden Daniels started out strong. Just that he's young, but he had an MVP caliber season as well. But I think that it's going to go between Lamar and Josh. It'll probably go to Josh Allen this year.

[Rory]

Either way, I think they may fly LiAngelo to both games.

[Maul]

Are they working them like that?

[Rory]

Yeah, I think it'll end up like. Remember when Will Ferrell tried to play for every MLB team in, like, two days or whatever? That documentary on HBO? I think LiAngelo is going to do that with all the games.

[Maul]

No, make a documentary out of it.

[Rory]

Yeah. And this is just a rumor, but, you know, we have good sources. I did hear that they cut five minutes of Kendrick's halftime performance for that record. Tweaker.

[Maul]

Wait, what?

[Rory]

This was fun, man. Everyone be cool.

[Maul]

I'm not even listening to Rory, man. We'll talk to y'all week, man.

[Rory]

GNX is platinum.

[Maul]

He's about to piss me off just now with that squeaker.

[Rory]

Number one.

[Maul]

Listen, man. Eat. Everybody eats.

[Rory]

Damn. I. I feel like LiAngelo passed Kendrick to beat. Yo, that was a rough week, man.

[Maul]

Listen, everybody.

[Rory]

All your ops is.

[Maul]

I have.

[Rory]

They only competing with themselves.

[Maul]

I have no ops. I want everybody to eat. Do what you got to do. Have a safe week. We'll be back in a couple of days to kick it with y'all. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace.

[Damaris]

No warrior now.