Episode 353 | Bad Takes Never Heal

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL – Episode 353 | Bad Takes Never Heal

Release Date: March 14, 2025
Hosts: Rory and Mal
Produced By: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
Episode Title: Bad Takes Never Heal

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1. Religion and Spirituality [01:05 – 04:18]

Rory and Mal delve into the topic of modern spirituality versus traditional religious practices. They discuss the diminishing presence of religious symbols like Ash Wednesday and how contemporary society seems more focused on secular concerns such as taxes.

• Rory: “I think our parents just did the Catholic thing wrong. My generation, after 18, it's like, you mean I don't have to go?”
• Mal: “We're spiritual. That's what we do. I say my 'Our Fathers' in the morning. That's three prayers; all you need.”

The conversation highlights a generational shift towards personal spirituality over organized religion, with Mal humorously referencing daily prayers as a spiritual practice.

2. Social Media Conflicts and Doxxing [04:00 – 06:25]

The hosts discuss recent tensions in the music industry, particularly focusing on Jermaine Dupri (referred to as JD) and incidents of doxxing against Damaris after her comments on Nicki Minaj.

• Damaris: “They were saying, 'defund white kappas,' and I was like, 'don't do that to my friend.'”
• Mal: “We can't fight back on the Internet; they're undefeated.”

Rory expresses empathy for JD, criticizing the backlash he faced after simply posing a question about independent artists' desires. The conversation underscores the challenges of engaging in online discourse without facing severe repercussions.

3. R&B Album Rankings: The "Full Moon" Debate [16:00 – 32:27]

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to debating the greatest R&B albums of all time, with a particular focus on Brandy's "Full Moon." The hosts compare it to Usher's "Confessions" and discuss other classics like Lauryn Hill's works and Marvin Gaye's albums.

• Mal: “Is it too early to call Dolce one of the greats? I like one album. I'm just asking, do we call people greats off from one album?”
• Rory: “Full Moon defined the R&B generation. It's like what JD could say about his legacy.”

They explore the impact of production quality and vocal performance, ultimately celebrating "Full Moon" while acknowledging the subjective nature of musical greatness.

4. Listener Call-ins: Dating and Homelessness [86:08 – 105:35]

Listener interactions bring personal stories to the forefront, discussing the complexities of dating someone experiencing homelessness or living in a van.

• Listener Rory: “I met a girl on a dating app, and when I went to pick her up, she was living in her van with her dog. Has this happened to you guys?”
• Mal: “She took a situation and made it a better one. Ice tea saved everything.”

The hosts debate the practicality and empathy involved in such dating scenarios, emphasizing the importance of understanding and support for individuals facing housing instability.

5. Police Mounted Units and Animal Cruelty [53:24 – 58:42]

Rory and Mal engage in a spirited debate about the use of horses in police work, questioning their necessity and potential for animal cruelty.

• Mal: “Why are cops still on horseback dressed not for combat? They're dressed for style, not doing anything. That's animal cruelty.”
• Rory: “The horses live, those horses are very well taken care of, though.”

They discuss alternative methods for crowd control and law enforcement, highlighting differing opinions on the effectiveness and ethics of mounted police units.

6. Entertainment Discussions: Movies and TV Shows [70:00 – 118:55]

The hosts discuss various entertainment mediums, including movies like Jason Bateman's roles and the TV show "Power." They critique plotlines, production quality, and character development.

• Mal: “Jason Bateman's performance in 'Carry On' was entertaining despite awful reviews.”
• Rory: “Unique's miraculous survival in 'Power' felt too much like a soap opera.”

The conversation extends to horror genres and the blending of reality with fiction, reflecting on how media portrays intense and traumatic events.

7. Rapid Fire and Light-Hearted Banter [109:06 – 112:35]

Towards the end of the episode, Rory initiates a rapid-fire segment asking about the wildest songs the hosts would have sex to. This segment showcases the hosts' humorous and candid personalities.

• Rory: “What is the wildest song you guys would have sex to, whether you've done dirty or not?”
• Mal: “I lost my virginity to a Lloyd Banks mixtape.”

This light-hearted exchange provides listeners with entertaining insights into the hosts' personal preferences and experiences.

8. Promotions and Advertisements [Throughout the Episode]

Adhering to the user's instructions, advertisements and promotional content are omitted from this summary. However, notable mentions include:

• DistroKid: Promoted as a music distribution service.
• iHeartPodcasts and The Volume: Highlighting their partnership in producing "New Rory & MAL."

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Notable Quotes:

• Rory on Spirituality:
  “I think our parents just did the Catholic thing wrong... And you know, we're spiritual.” [01:39]

• Mal on Internet Conflicts:
  “You can't fight back on the Internet; they're undefeated.” [04:16]

• Damaris on Being Doxxed:
  “They were saying, 'defund white kappas,' and I was like, 'don't do that to my friend.'” [04:40]

• Rory on R&B Greatness:
  “Full Moon defined the R&B generation. It's like what JD could say about his legacy.” [16:00]

• Mal on Police Horses:
  “Why are cops still on horseback dressed not for combat? They're dressed for style, not doing anything. That's animal cruelty.” [53:35]

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Conclusion:

In Episode 353, "Bad Takes Never Heal," Rory and Mal navigate a diverse array of topics ranging from spirituality and internet conflicts to sophisticated debates on R&B music and societal issues like homelessness and animal cruelty in law enforcement. Their candid and spirited conversations, enriched with personal anecdotes and humorous exchanges, provide listeners with both insightful discussions and entertaining banter. The episode underscores the show's commitment to tackling both serious and light-hearted subjects, making it a comprehensive listen for fans seeking depth and levity.

Transcript

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[Mal]

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[Rory]

You see right through me.

[Mal]

And we are back. Happy end of the week. I guess. Sort of. We're getting there.

[Rory]

Happy weekend.

[Mal]

Yes, Happy weekend.

[Rory]

Happy Friday.

[Mal]

Whatever. Whatever day. You listen to this. Happy Tuesday. If that's the day.

[Rory]

Wednesday. Yeah, Ash Wednesday. Was it Ash Wednesday yesterday?

[Mal]

Yes. How.

[Rory]

You know, how come you don't have any ash on your. You took a shower?

[Mal]

Yeah. You're allowed to do that?

[Rory]

Oh, I thought you.

[Mal]

I also didn't go get my ashes, but yeah.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

I used to have to go to school with that on.

[Rory]

I didn't see much. Ashes.

[Mal]

Yeah, you used to see it all the time in the street.

[Rory]

I didn't see much religious anymore. People don't care. It's just like.

[Mal]

Yeah, I think so.

[Rory]

Taxes and that's it.

[Mal]

No, I just think our. Our parents just did the Catholic thing wrong. So. My generation, like after 18 was like, you mean I don't have to go?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And you know, we're spiritual.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's.

[Mal]

That's what we do.

[Rory]

Spiritual.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah. I say my. My 10 Our Fathers in the morning. That's three helmets.

[Rory]

All you need.

[Mal]

Especially after this week.

[Rory]

You're covered.

[Mal]

Father, I have committed murder. You good?

[Rory]

Sorry.

[Mal]

Don't do that again.

[Rory]

It's okay. It's all right.

[Mal]

Help us at our bake sale. You'll go to heaven. But. Yes, I haven't got my ashes in a while, so I guess that would mean Easter is this Sunday. No, I'm a terrible Catholic.

[Damaris]

No, Easter is a couple Sundays from now, babe.

[Mal]

Okay, Easter. I'm thinking of Holy Thursday. Good Friday than to eat.

[Rory]

So.

[Mal]

Yeah, I thought Ash Wednesday.

[Rory]

So yesterday was Ash Wednesday.

[Mal]

Then there's Palm Sunday.

[Rory]

It was last week.

[Mal]

I'm a terrible Catholic.

[Rory]

It's interesting how it's Ash Wednesday and this year easter is like 4:20. So it's like, kind of ties into. Yeah, I see where you're taking smoking 420.

[Mal]

Phoenix rising with ashes. I mean, listen, man, do you have 420 plans? I mean, I know We're a little bit away. I'll have Easter plans, of course, because clearly I'm still very involved in the Catholic Church. You, on the other hand, will be a degenerate smoking up all the devil's lettuce.

[Rory]

I'm just remember when, like, sneakers used to be a thing on Easter? Like, get all the, like, the new releases.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I forgot about that. That was a thing.

[Rory]

It's a few releases that I'm looking forward to. A few air maxes that's dropping that I need.

[Mal]

I wonder why they did that. Because, like, did anyone ever get to.

[Rory]

Get fresh for Easter? That's why.

[Mal]

Yeah, but if you're buying the sneakers that day that they drop and who gets, like, Easter month, That's like the.

[Rory]

It's like the week.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

The week the sneakers drop.

[Mal]

I wasn't allowed to wear fresh sneakers. It was hard bottoms on these guys.

[Rory]

Yeah. Penny loafers.

[Mal]

Yes. The only time, like, we could kind of get something off would be the wallabies.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

That was the only time that.

[Rory]

Remember you. Was you a Hush Puppies baby.

[Mal]

No, Hush Puppies were like, right. Right before me. We were wallabies.

[Rory]

Yeah, I was Hush. I was. I did.

[Mal]

We knew what Hush Puppies were, but the older kids were on those.

[Rory]

We never did the Hush Puppies and wallabies. Yeah.

[Mal]

But anyways, I don't even know how we got down that topic, man. That's true.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

He is risen. Christ will come again. With that said, boy, could I. I'm not doing. You know, I should have. I should have went to Wednesday. I had to pray.

[Rory]

I'm not doing. I'm staying away from. I'm staying away from that topic with you, man.

[Mal]

What you mean, man?

[Rory]

Nothing, man.

[Mal]

What you staying away from?

[Rory]

Just. Just the topic. I see the timeline was you was fighting for your.

[Mal]

We can't go. We can't go through it unless we go through it.

[Rory]

No, no, no. We a. We not doing that. I saw you.

[Mal]

We have to face our. Our. Our fears.

[Rory]

No, we going to face the fears of your timeline. Beating you into submission.

[Mal]

A little sore. I can't lie.

[Rory]

Let a fight back, man.

[Mal]

Nah, you can't fight back on the Internet, man.

[Rory]

You got to fight back.

[Mal]

It's not a stand your ground state.

[Damaris]

You attempted to fight back. You attempted to fight back with that. I know the Internet killing me. It's fine. It's just my time. But you.

[Rory]

I love when you.

[Damaris]

They're going to ignore the other like, y. Stop.

[Mal]

I love when you.

[Damaris]

I got there And I tried to fight for you. And then I saw it, and I said, man, that. And I deleted.

[Mal]

Oh, did you? I didn't see that, but I appreciate it.

[Damaris]

I was like, nah, y'all not going to do my friend like that. Because they were saying, defund white kappas. And I was like, you know what?

[Mal]

I agree. I mean, I agree, though.

[Damaris]

I was like, I'm not not gonna do that to my friend. Like, don't do that to my friend. He was the first person to say, do you had rap album of the year? Like, I was caping. I was like, nah, nah, he good. It's your turn.

[Mal]

I take my licks by my lonely. But I do appreciate that you sticking up for me. Yeah, but you can't fight back on the Internet, they're undefeated.

[Rory]

They tried to beat you into submission. My guy JD he been fighting for his life the last week and then some days now. All Jermaine Dupri asked was a question about, what is it that independent artists want? And everybody's in this midget talking about, JD Must be going broke. He can't sign no artists. I'm like, this is Jermaine Dupree y'all are talking to.

[Mal]

That's what's interesting. Like, I. I understand. Even if I don't agree, I understand my ass whooping on the Internet over the past two days.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Even though I think they took Damaris completely out of context on how she's been with the Drake thing, I understood, based off the information that they had, why the stands would go at her. This JD Thing is be like, you guys have to be bored on the Internet. I disagree with JD but now we're going to get into his pockets and his legacy. And he asked a fucking question on the timeline.

[Rory]

And it's only. It's only. It's a very specific part of this. Of the Internet, too. It's a very specific part of the Internet that you can't ask questions about. You can't.

[Mal]

I felt. I felt so bad. Like, even when JD Put up that clip that you was part of our podcast and then he did his explanation, I was like, why is Jermaine Dupri one of the greatest? Like, I'm happy that I even got to be alive when Jermaine Dupri is live. Like, that's the type of genius that we're talking about.

[Rory]

Right?

[Mal]

Why is he putting up a clip of Dumbass Me and having to explain himself? Yeah, I felt bad for that. Like, that gentleman should never have to explain himself.

[Damaris]

Y'all can't say that Jermaine Dupri just asked the question and he got killed. Jermaine Dupri asked the question. People answer his question, and then he doubled down. He knew the answer to. To that question, but he doesn't agree with the answer to the question, which he showed when you guys called him. He doesn't agree that the freedom is important enough to be independent. He doesn't agree. He said that. He showed that in that conversation. He showed that in his replies to people on Twitter. He showed that when he went live, like, he knew the answer to that question.

[Rory]

I don't think it was that. I mean, because like he said in the conversation, he had major deals and, you know, had obviously had his label and all of that. And like you said, he got the perks of being independent as well, because most importantly, he writes all his shit.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Now, everybody can't say that. Everybody doesn't have that talent or that luxury of owning their music because they write all of their music and they produce their music. So he's in a very unique situation when it comes to that. But I think what he was saying was, again, it's all what you negotiate. Had he not negotiated his deal that way, then he wouldn't have be able to say that.

[Mal]

And Grant, I mean, we talked about it after he got off the call. I still disagree with him and said he was in a unique place that he earned. That's why he's speaking from that. I disagree with him. I didn't think we should erase his entire legacy, take his NPC away, defund him again. That's what. That's where I'm at. I disagree with JD but I don't think we should erase 25 years of the greatest fucking producer writer catalog I've ever seen.

[Rory]

Just asked a question, like, that's why all of this is hilarious. All he did was pose a question, and people was like, oh, J.D.

[Mal]

I like the discourse, and I think there should always be debate online. I've participated in it for over a decade. It's. It's just now getting to, like, a whole different level.

[Rory]

People want to argue.

[Mal]

Like, it's going into, like, livelihood shit, where it's like, okay, people just want to argue. This isn't fun anymore.

[Rory]

They just want to argue. I like it, though. I love seeing people argue on the timeline.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah, I like it. It's. It's great, but they're a little insane.

[Damaris]

I got doxxed over the weekend on Twitter.

[Mal]

What do you mean?

[Damaris]

Docs, my older thank God it's an old address. My old address.

[Mal]

Oh, you really mean docs.

[Damaris]

I mean, I thought you were like, posted my old address. Thank God my address and my phone number are different, but. Yeah, for what Docs me, because apparently I dissed Nicki Minaj. Nice news to fucking me.

[Mal]

Oh, and when you said in actual fact that she was overly sexualized during her, which I believe she's probably said before, that they sexualized her while she was wrapping her ass off and people were just looking at her ass.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they doxed me.

[Rory]

Is that. Is that what's going on on the Internet? Yeah, yeah, man.

[Damaris]

That guy. I didn't see it. That actually got sent to me and my friends were like, damaris, you need to do something about this. Like, we reported it. And I was just like, wow.

[Mal]

I. Wow. I will blow a barb's head clean the fuck off. They show up to my fucking door. I welcome it clean off.

[Rory]

Listen, man, let me make a call to the Barbs, man. Let me see what's going on, man. Let me try to calm the people down.

[Mal]

I know you've been laughing up in your penthouse for the past few weeks.

[Rory]

About what?

[Mal]

Just the. The digital ass whoopings that Damaris and I have been taking. Peej made an incredible graphic, which I thought was hilarious, that he posted. This is the Grim Reaper meme that's been going out. Of course, 2024, you took. You took a bulk.

[Rory]

Bulk of the death side, man.

[Mal]

Moved right down onto Damaris.

[Rory]

Out of context, I'm still here. They can't erase what we were.

[Mal]

And like any horror movie, you guys died first. But it came. But it came right to me.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I wasn't escaping.

[Rory]

Yeah, the blacks gotta die first. You know that in the horror flick. You know how that goes.

[Mal]

Yeah, I made it to the third act.

[Rory]

Yeah. Yeah. And then you found out that the killer is your close friend and he killed you, stabbed you in the belly button. I get it.

[Mal]

No, the whole, like, this has really been some M. Night Shyamalan. I pronounce his. Yeah, some John Grisham thing. Peach has really been the one behind dictating this entire thing. It's really him. It's the guy that you did not think was the serial killer at the end of the movie. And it's been Peach.

[Rory]

But how. But why.

[Damaris]

I'm not blaming that last clip on pe. That was all you. That was you.

[Mal]

I. I said, let's go with the hot wings clip. That's a fact. I said, you know, I think maybe we should just go with the hot wings one. Like they're talking about that because I already knew where that was going to go. Yeah, and Peach, even he didn't clip it up bad, but I just knew the only way to clip it.

[Rory]

Why do y'all blame Peach for clipping it?

[Mal]

Oh, cuz we don't want to take accountability.

[Rory]

It's not the way he's clipping it. Oh, I.

[Damaris]

With mine, it definitely was the way that he clipped it.

[Mal]

But yours, they took it out of context based off you dancing. That clip was fine to what the conversation was.

[Damaris]

No, even then when they, when that clip first dropped, I got killed. And I had to go in the comments when it first clipped and was like, hey, this is out of context. This is what happened. That clip. Peach cut that clip exactly where it was supposed to be.

[Rory]

What clip are y'all talking about?

[Damaris]

So my middle clip, the, the, the viral fucking clip of our Kendrick conversation. Before that clip, we were talking about the disses and what was being said in the disses and you were ignoring everything else that was said. So I bought up what else was said. That's the missing context from that clip. As far as Rory's clip, there is no missing context. We started at the top of that conversation and it was included in the entire clip.

[Mal]

There was not context missing per se in that. How the mentions that I did, see how they were replying to them, took my point and made it say something I was not saying. As far as her being an industry plant and just me hating on her and she doesn't deserve this, that she didn't put any work in. They just made me say a whole bunch of shit that I didn't say that I actually said the opposite in that 45 minute conversation of every point that they brought up. Even down to artists that have gotten verses from legends, I said before, they're usually signed to them. Every point that they were making out for me to seem crazy, I had said in that 45 minute conversation. That's what I'm saying with the context. I still stand by what I said. As far as the Lauryn Hill dochi bringing her out, I think it's going to be a lot of pressure to put on one artist now. She really has to deliver. But with that said, yeah, a lot was missing in that entire conversation. But I don't care. I fully understood everything. I hate white hip hop heads do. Of course, of course I had to wear a Wu Tang shirt that day. It's not even like my thing you.

[Damaris]

Had a Wu Tang shirt. Oh, my God.

[Mal]

It paint. It was like the perfect narrative of who I like. I'm not. They was all understanding, like. And even though, like, I like MF Doom and underground hip hop, that's not. They painted me to be that guy. And that's not even me like that, Ace. I prefer music where they sell crack.

[Rory]

Like, yo, I just love the fact that it's not on me right now.

[Mal]

Yeah, no, you that guy. You definitely that guy.

[Rory]

I took my lick his. But I'm still standing.

[Mal]

I mean, but see, see, that's fucked up because when you were taking your lickings, I was going down with you.

[Rory]

I didn't even know they was kicking your ass until like an hour ago.

[Mal]

Oh, okay.

[Rory]

Yeah, I didn't know that. I didn't know that you was fighting.

[Mal]

I didn't really know like, that until Peej said something to me earlier yesterday. And then I looked and I was like, oh, God. And then, then La Russell. Then La Russell got ahold of it and I was like, oh, gosh. Can we pull up LaRussell's tweet?

[Rory]

LaRussell on your ass, painting me to.

[Mal]

Be this person that I'm not.

[Rory]

Damn.

[Damaris]

Damn, LaRussell.

[Mal]

I'm like, not my guy who I've supported.

[Damaris]

That's not your guy then that's not your guy.

[Mal]

He said, Doji is one of the greats. It's never too early to recognize greatness. There's no such thing as a premature flowers giving.

[Rory]

She's great. Yes, it is. LaRussell. I love you, but it is a such thing as premature flower giving. Absolutely. I'm going to just stop him right there. It absolutely is a such thing as premature flower giving.

[Mal]

Okay, she's great and doing great things. She's not just tight. She gets it. She's putting something new in the pot. She loves art. She's smiling, enjoying her journey. Get off her dick now.

[Damaris]

Every damn now.

[Mal]

Everything La Russell said in this passage right here, I have said for over a year about Dochi. Matter of fact, I've been saying this about Dochi since 2020. Yeah, that's where I'm saying, like, I get the hey. But now you guys are painting me to be this person that I'm not when it comes to supporting this artist or artists like Dochi. Because I was with the. Hey, if she only sold 11,000 records and you can't get a Grammy off that, I don't give a fuck if the Grammys got it wrong this time. They got it right. Because they gave it to a talented artist this time.

[Rory]

Right?

[Mal]

I have been on this the whole time. So when I saw the Russell do, that was like, damn the fuck.

[Damaris]

Well, you know, nobody gives a fuck about what you've been saying. All those other pastimes. Like you said, they only care about the clips. But you have been the main one in this podcasting sphere that has been pushing that. Dolce is one of the greats. You've been saying that you came in here and couldn't shut the fuck up about. About that album 2019.

[Mal]

I was hitting Reason's phone every other day. Hey, can you give me a line on Dochi? I want to work with her. Yeah, I think she's amazing.

[Damaris]

We were at the.

[Mal]

But I also think Lauryn Hill is. Is just Lauryn Hill.

[Damaris]

And that's. And that's one thing that I did want to bring up when I was defending you, but I was like, nah, that people are thinking you're putting Dochi down. But I don't think everybody knows how you feel about Lauren Hill. Lauryn Hill is your real hov. So, like, you. You worship Lauryn Hill. You literally worship Lauryn Hill. So I think that it's. I don't want to say not jealousy. It's not that you're hating on Dolce. It's just.

[Mal]

It's a Lauren Hill bring me out.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it's a. It's a Lauren thing. It's just how you feel about Lauren. It has nothing to do with how you feel about Dolce. But it did come. But I was trying to save you in the middle of the conversation. Like, yo, this. You sound like a hater. I was trying to save you. You wasn't biting.

[Mal]

I mean, it's cool. It is what it is.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Yeah. I didn't have too much for this. I wasn't coming here to backtrack. I'm laughing with y'all. I agree. I think white people should get out of this genre. I'm just. I'm not gonna return this equipment. Like, it's.

[Rory]

It's.

[Mal]

It's expensive.

[Rory]

All right, but now let me put.

[Mal]

My eggs in this podcasting basket.

[Rory]

Let me add this to the pot of the conversation. Is it too early to call Dolce one of the greats? I like one album. I'm just asking, like, do we call people greats off from one album?

[Mal]

I saw it in the comments, too. Hey, Nas was called the Great just after the Live at the Barbecue verse, and he worked with some of the greatest producers for Illmatic. This and that. And I felt them. And I saw a lot of people saying, yo, Nas was considered once Illmatic came out, one of the greatest. And now I'm going to set myself up to look more like a hater when I'm not being one. Am I a hater for saying it's not Illmatic? Everyone under that she was bringing up Nas, it was like, no, I get it. And I'm not.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I'm not taking Dochi down by saying, and this is where you can't win in podcasting, because I want to say, hey, guys, that's Illmatic.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Now clip this piece.

[Rory]

I get what you're saying, though. That's why I'm asking. That's why I'm posing the question. Like, I think.

[Mal]

I think it's fine for LaRusso to say right now, yes, Dochi is one of the greats. I think that's totally fine for anyone that is a fan of her to say. I think she's one of the greats of this new generation. I cannot wait to see where her career goes. But in the whole totality of things, which is what that convo was sort of about, of who Lauren is in the years that she has put in and what she has accomplished versus what a new artist that looks like they have incredible potential is, and just the marriage of those two things, that's all.

[Damaris]

Okay, so what I do want to bring up is with other people's main argument is that other people. Other people were bringing. I mean, other people were on stage with Lauryn Hill.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like on in that show, someone was kind of like, so why. And Dolce was the most famous one out of all of them for sure. So why was that?

[Rory]

Obviously, yeah, we spoke about Foggy. Foggy, bro perform. I'm not sure who else outside of Dochi and Foggy she brought out, but I did see Foggy was there.

[Mal]

I mean, I'll give the obvious answer. It's not the right one. Dochi is what the conversation was. And podcasting is a lot of the times about what the current conversation is. And at that time, as Rolling Stone has told us, Dochi hate is the main conversation. So we. We were talking about Dochi coming out, and that also was the biggest moment. And the comparisons, I think, are fair as far as their artistry and their style. I think that's a fair comparison. You can tell that Dochi was clearly influenced by Lauryn Hill, which is why I think we love a lot of her music. So that was really why that conversation was higher. Than the rest of the people that were brought out. But it is also a conversation. And I'm not saying it was the right way, but when we were coming up, it would be. The younger artists would have the opportunity to bring the legend out as the cosign, not reverse. That was always the huge moment that they. The legend would come out and perform, and that would be the cosign.

[Rory]

My thing is this. You can make, like, in the beginning.

[Mal]

Drake brought out Wayne, and that was the craziest shit. Like, damn, he brought Wayne out. And, I mean, of course he was signed to him, but it wasn't until Drake became Drake that Wayne would bring Drake out. Like, that's usually how it went.

[Rory]

All right, well, hopefully the Internet ain't kicking your ass too much after this, man.

[Mal]

You know, I'm sure they are.

[Rory]

I mean, it took you. They took your words out of. Out of context a little bit.

[Mal]

And, you know, I mean, and let's say. Let's say they didn't. Everyone will be okay. Hey, literally every doshi will be fine.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Who's ever watching that will be fine. Everyone will be fine. Lauren Hill will be fine.

[Rory]

Listen, my motto is this. The first comes every month. Like, I don't care what y'all saying on the Internet. The first is coming up. Pay your bills.

[Mal]

I had. I won't say what, group chat, but friends of ours were trying to put together people that work in the music industry were jokingly trying. Trying to put together, like, a PR apology for me to come on here.

[Damaris]

That's very funny.

[Mal]

And this. This is what I had written so far, because one of them, I don't want to give, like, hints on it was trying to tell me not to double down like Andrew Schultz. And then she couldn't, like, be around me. She thought, like, I was finally an ally that she could bring around other black people.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So she was like, we need to put a press conference together. I will stand next to you giving you the death eyes the entire time you read this. After meeting with various women amongst whom are from the community that I've offended the most, I understand that I was wrong and that my actions have harmed many innocent people's lives. I will be checking myself in a mental health facility to truly address the internal issues that caused me to act out this way. Please give my family privacy during this time. Thank you.

[Rory]

Yes. You should have added in that you're gay at the end of that. That really, like, sends it home after that. Once you say you're gay.

[Mal]

I should have started With I realized that I am a red flag.

[Damaris]

Should have said, please leave me and my very black family alone at this time.

[Rory]

Oh, man. Jesus.

[Mal]

Anyways, speaking of people that are no longer invited to the cookout. Yeah, I gotta go link with Alabama Parker.

[Rory]

What happened now? What's the latest and greatest with Bad Baby?

[Mal]

We are the two whites that deserve to get our ass kicked this week.

[Rory]

Yeah, but.

[Mal]

But at least I hope it's not completely over for me, Alabama Barker. Man, I go back to your in laws, reality tv, maybe sell some skims. I don't really know what's. What's going to happen with Alabama Barker.

[Rory]

Did Bad Baby drop another record?

[Damaris]

Yes, she did. OG crash out.

[Mal]

Another one? Another one.

[Rory]

She is 21 years old. How is she calling herself OG crash?

[Mal]

She heard stripes already. She a young OG.

[Rory]

OG crash.

[Damaris]

Definitely a young OG. We can't exactly talk play it. You know, on Patreon, we play the music. So we're gonna do that on our Patreon episode.

[Mal]

But oh yeah, that's gonna be a lyrical breakdown on Patreon.

[Damaris]

I've never heard.

[Rory]

I haven't heard it. So I'm excited.

[Mal]

We're gonna play it for you later.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I want your full reaction. I want your full reaction.

[Rory]

I'm excited to hear Bad Baby because I again, listening to, you know, the other, other tracks you put out, I was very impressed by the way she delivered those bars again. I don't know if she's writing that, but she delivered it like she is. So I want to hear what she had to do, what she had to say on a OG Crash out.

[Mal]

Dude, there's been, there's been plenty of battles where I've seen people lose. Like even after back to back, I was like, oh, if Meek just keeps set down, stays focused and puts out good music, he'll be all right. Like, there's plenty of times artists have lost. And I was like, give it some time. Everything will be normal again. Yeah, I think this might be the first actual battle where it's over. Nail in the coffin for the rapper forever. I know Ja got a little weird, but that had a lot to do with, you know, the feds and he still had clapback, like New York Rules still put out records after that. Yeah, I think this is the first one we've ever seen. Like, even when the bridge is over, the bridge was not over. Like, everyone continued on. This is the first time. I think it's over for a rapper forever after a battle. I don't think Alabama Barker can look at Pro tools for the rest of her life.

[Rory]

No, I don't think you got it. You got to at least let her fight back. Look at what her fight back game is like, at least, because she could drop something.

[Mal]

Three weeks.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I mean, she might. She still let. You can't rush the chef. You know that. She might be cooking. She got to get intel. You know what I'm saying? She might be putting together some, you know, video. Like you don't know what she doing.

[Mal]

What intel could you have on someone that was on Dr. Philip, 14, cursing her mother out, and then had a countdown till her 18th birthday for OnlyFans.

[Rory]

This is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. You don't know.

[Mal]

What dirt could you have on this one?

[Damaris]

No, it's kind of the Freddy Gibbs methodology, like, the world knows all the worst things about me, so there's nothing that you can really say in a diss.

[Mal]

Yeah, she mal.

[Damaris]

She said, and we going to get into it on Patreon. But she literally said, you keep running back to your daddy. I don't know when the last time I seen my pops gangster.

[Mal]

It's different.

[Rory]

You can't get into a battle with somebody that's not seeing their father.

[Damaris]

We in a trauma war.

[Rory]

I don't even care about seeing my father. Who you talking about? Who you and who you talking to? OG Crash.

[Mal]

And who you talking to?

[Rory]

And who you talking to? OG Crash. Out. Available.

[Mal]

I'm really excited for your reaction in real time on Patreon.

[Rory]

Yeah, bad baby. I'm check. I'm gonna check out your OG Crash out. I'm impressed by. What was the name of the other one?

[Mal]

The first one, I think, greatest of all time.

[Rory]

Oh, Ms. Whitman. Oh, she was skating on Ms. Whitman.

[Mal]

And then we did this. We did the whole science of what Ms. Whitman was like. That was a whole deal.

[Rory]

She went crazy. That's what I'm saying. So Alabama probably got to get it. She know she not. This ain't your. This ain't. This ain't your average battle right here. Alabama, get in your bag. You know what I'm saying?

[Mal]

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[Rory]

Mm.

[Mal]

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[Rory]

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[Mal]

Description down below for 10% off your subscription. Eric Bellinger was on Trash Mag this week. I saw a clip that he had said, brandy, Full Moon is the greatest R B album of all time.

[Rory]

Love you, E.B. but you tripping. And Full Moon is a. Is a. Is a classic R B album.

[Mal]

I mean, Bellinger, being the writer and vocalist that he is, I can totally see that Brandy and Full Moon would be a huge, huge influence on him and the goat that he is. But I disagree. Just going through certain R and B.

[Rory]

Albums that might be his wife's favorite R and B album. You know, you get on a platform, you got to. Whatever wifey, like, you got to throw that out there, like, yo, listen, that's the greatest.

[Mal]

It had me kind of thinking, like, how easily that could be debunked. And I wanted to ask you guys, Full Moon, verse, Confessions, what you taking? We're going with the number one greatest R B of all time, and I just want to name a bunch to.

[Damaris]

See if there's some people who will argue with you.

[Rory]

What you think I'm taking? What you think I'm taking?

[Mal]

Full moon in your heart.

[Rory]

What you think I'm in my heart?

[Mal]

Yeah, I think I'm gonna go to confessions.

[Rory]

Exactly.

[Mal]

I make. I must confess.

[Rory]

Yeah, Come on, man.

[Mal]

I would. I personally would go with Confessions as well. Marvin Gaye was going on. I mean, soul. I still consider it R B to you.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Full Moon or what's going on?

[Rory]

Probably full moon.

[Mal]

Interesting.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Okay. I wouldn't have guessed that. Damaris.

[Damaris]

I would probably go Full Moon, but I think that what's going on is probably the better album. But it's eras. I was around to hear a full moon.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm still what's going on?

[Rory]

But yeah, I always answer based on what I listen to more.

[Mal]

You. You listen to Full Moon more than what's going on?

[Rory]

Absolutely.

[Mal]

Interesting. Okay. I mean, this one to me was like the number one no brainer songs in a key of life. Like, is there a better R B album? No, that's like, I get it. I get it, Eric.

[Rory]

But Confessions is the one we all probably would say is the greatest. But the greatest. When you talk to songwriters and musicians and artists, they would probably go with songs in the kill life.

[Mal]

Paige, get the clip ready. Lauryn Hill. The miseducation of Lauryn Hill, which you could debate. That's not an R and B album, so I don't even know if it should be compared to Brandy. Full Moon. Yeah, it's both. It's hip hop and there's a lot of R and B on it. Though I can make a case it's more of an R and B album than it is a rap.

[Rory]

Full Moon is a great album, though.

[Mal]

Like, of course.

[Rory]

Like, I just, you know.

[Mal]

But what's about the number one spot is a crazy thing to just say.

[Rory]

It's tough, man. Because all of this is subjective. It's all about, you know, what you like and your taste level and things like that. But as we're sitting here talking about it and I'm kind of like, like, listening to some of the songs on Full Moon in my head, like, the production on that alone, and then, like, Brandy's vocals, like, her.

[Mal]

Rodney Jergens did the whole thing.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's just. It's. It's. That's an incredible, incredible R B project.

[Mal]

Then. All right, let's just do rapid fire then. Who is Jill Scott?

[Rory]

Full Moon.

[Damaris]

Who is Joe Scott?

[Rory]

Over Full Moon.

[Damaris]

Personally, it's a personal thing. Yeah.

[Mal]

D'Angelo. Brown Sugar.

[Rory]

Full moon.

[Damaris]

Full moon.

[Mal]

Going Brown sugar. Mary J. My life.

[Rory]

Full moon.

[Damaris]

Full moon.

[Mal]

Damn. Going My life. Now, see, now, today, I'm the Brandy hater. And I love Brandy. I think she's the greatest vocalist of all time.

[Rory]

I can't tell. Okay. I think.

[Mal]

Oh, let me.

[Rory]

I actually think you think she's the worst vocalist of all time. That's just how I'm feeling right now as I listen.

[Mal]

No, it's Whitney and Brandy. One A one, baby. The greatest. All right, let me try to get Myself back here. I'll throw a ringer in there. Justin Timberlake, the 2020 Experience.

[Rory]

What are we doing right now?

[Mal]

I'm just trying to. I'm just trying to give a full moon against the white guy.

[Rory]

Get that Gap commercial out of here, man.

[Mal]

Don't do that. It's definitely not better than full moon, 2020 experience.

[Rory]

The Gap. When I say Gap commercial, that's not a knock. I love the Gap, and the commercials are iconic. I'm just saying, when you talk about full moon, I know.

[Mal]

It shouldn't even been in the around.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

All right, back. Back to Rapid Fire. Carl Thomas, emotional.

[Rory]

Great album, but Full Moon, Full Moon.

[Mal]

Donnell Jones, where I want to be.

[Rory]

Another great album, but Full Moon, Full Moon, Full moon.

[Mal]

Ringer here. Kaleidoscope Dreams. Miguel.

[Damaris]

Full Moon, Full Moon.

[Rory]

Kaleidoscope Dreams is a great album.

[Mal]

That's a modern classic.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's a great album.

[Mal]

Faith Evans. Faith Evans.

[Damaris]

Faith Evans.

[Mal]

Faith Evans.

[Rory]

She got my joint on there, too. It's my. That's my shit she got on there. But I'm going full moon, okay?

[Mal]

100% genuine. You lost your virginity to that. Don't. Don't. Don't laugh.

[Rory]

Full moon, man.

[Mal]

I'm going full moon as well. It's a great album.

[Rory]

It's a great album.

[Mal]

I was trying to throw some random ones that aren't all Stevie Wonder and Marva Gaye. Sade Love Deluxe.

[Rory]

Oh, come on, man. Don't do that.

[Mal]

That's a tough one.

[Rory]

Yeah, don't do that.

[Mal]

That one's neck and neck.

[Rory]

Oh, man, don't do that. Sheesh. Damn, that's tough.

[Mal]

Make a decision.

[Rory]

It depends. See, if you asking me today, today I'm going full moon. Saturday, I might have said Sade, you know what I'm saying?

[Mal]

Like, but today, depending what strain you're.

[Rory]

Full Moon, it depends on, you know, the day. It's just like. You know what I mean?

[Damaris]

Yeah, I would go full moon just because of eras, but, yeah, this is.

[Mal]

An easy one for Damaris. Velvet Rope.

[Damaris]

Velvet Rope is one of the greatest R B artists. All greatest R B albums.

[Rory]

Great album. But I don't know if it's just because, again, I'm always thinking vocal performance as well as production.

[Damaris]

That's not fair. Then Brandi would win the majority of every album.

[Mal]

We just pretty much wins every vote.

[Rory]

No, but I mean, if you name. No, because you can name another Brandy album against Velvet Rope, and I'll say Velvet Rope, but just the production, the music on Full Moon and Brandi's vocal performance, like, it's just tough to beat that.

[Mal]

All right? Of course, Brandy's Brandy with vocals, but if you're adding in production and vocal performance, Velvet Rope to me, checks those boxes at an extremely high level as well.

[Rory]

Oh, no, for sure. To me, Vel Roba's a classic album.

[Mal]

I honestly think I prefer the production on Velvet Rope over Full Moon.

[Rory]

Really?

[Mal]

Yeah, it's more my. My type of shit.

[Damaris]

Got till it's gone. Go deep more myself. I get so lonely. What are we. Yeah, gone, y'all. Gone.

[Rory]

All right, now start naming some of the joints on Full moon. You want to do that? If we want to start naming tracks.

[Mal]

It'S kind of unfair.

[Rory]

What are we talking about in here? Like, have y'all listen. When's the last time y'all listen to Full Moon?

[Damaris]

I listen to Brandy's album more than most people's, actually. Yeah. I, I.

[Rory]

That is a great album, man. Look, I'm talking about from the time the top of the record.

[Mal]

I wasn't mad at Eric Belling. It's just, like, out the gate number one.

[Rory]

But I'm always. To me, I. I just feel like Confessions is, you know, better than Full Moon.

[Mal]

I go a little more neo soul with the next two baduism.

[Rory]

Damn, that's a classic. I'm still going Full moon, though.

[Mal]

Okay. Because the way I feel like Full Moon defined the R and B generation. I think by doism, you could say the exact same thing.

[Rory]

Oh, no. For sure. So you're not naming no trash album. Let me just throw that out there. Like, you name it. Some of the greatest albums that we've been lucky enough to hear. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, let's get that out the way.

[Mal]

Maxwell Urban hang. Sweet. Damn Underrated classic album, if there's such a category. Yeah, it's an underrated classic.

[Rory]

There's very few that can sing better than Maxwell. So I'm still gonna go full moon.

[Damaris]

I'm gonna go full moon. I'm gonna go full moon for the majority of these. But that's a. That's because I'm a Brandy Stan.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And I feel like he has that same issue.

[Mal]

Do we. Do we consider Aaliyah one in a million? R B album?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

R B pop. But then again, Full Moon is R B pop to me as well, so.

[Damaris]

Yeah, very army pop.

[Mal]

I'm still going Full Moon, but one in a million is right there.

[Rory]

Yeah, for sure.

[Damaris]

I would probably go one in a million.

[Mal]

We'll go to Mall's era real quick. Tevin Campbell. I'm ready.

[Rory]

What's up with you today? Good, though. Because I'm just saying, I don't like.

[Mal]

You guys were both young singers.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I don't like the way you do Tevin out there like that. No, I'm going full Full Moon as well. Yeah.

[Mal]

All right. Well, that was fun. I mean, I'm sure. I'm sure I missed a bunch. That was just an awful whim.

[Rory]

That was some great, great albums. But Full Moon is definitely. I gotta listen to that album again now. See, now, now tonight I gotta listen to Full Moon. I gotta let that album rock tonight.

[Damaris]

Do you guys think Full Moon is Brandy's best album?

[Rory]

Absolutely.

[Mal]

Yeah. Let me not.

[Rory]

I mean, she had the self title, right? Brandi. Then she had. That was. She had a self titled album.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Rory]

I think Full Moon is better than that.

[Mal]

Let me. What's. What's the track list on Never say Never?

[Damaris]

That's. I think Never say Never is better than Full Moon. That's just what.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah.

[Damaris]

My favorite song of all, all time, no matter who the artist is, is on Never say Never. And I would go Never say Never over full moon.

[Rory]

What?

[Damaris]

Angel in Disguise is one of the greatest songs ever written. I fucking love that song so much.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I don't know. To me, Never say Never say Never and Full Moon are kind of like confessions. 8701 for me. Yeah, there's one that there's. There's one. No, but there's one that is. Would be the popular one to say is the better one. But when you go through the Track list, like 8701 is right there with Confessions. And I think Never say Never is right there with Full Moon.

[Rory]

To me, that's the second best album. But I think Full Moon is joints on here.

[Damaris]

The Boy Is Mine almost doesn't count. Angel in disguise, Top of the world. Have you ever. Please, please.

[Rory]

We ain't named no, no. No Full Moon tracks yet.

[Mal]

Right. I mean, it's like, do you need to name the Thriller tracks?

[Rory]

I'm just saying, I hear that.

[Damaris]

I think y'all are partial to the Dark Child sound and I think that probably that sound, Full Moon, has a sound and it like kind of ushered in an era of that sound. And I think that's why people are so attached to it. But it's not a better album than Never say Never.

[Mal]

Did Dark Child ever do A Versus?

[Rory]

No.

[Damaris]

So, yeah, I'm pretty sure no.

[Rory]

Oh, man, I don't think so. Who Would he have. Who would stand in front of that?

[Damaris]

No, he didn't do a. Versus.

[Mal]

That didn't go already. Yeah, I'm not. Who didn't go already? I have no idea.

[Rory]

But, I mean, the only other person. The only person I think who could stand in front of the Dog Child's.

[Damaris]

Catalog is jd Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis might. They didn't even have one.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I just. I think it's just the errors is a little different.

[Mal]

Yeah, it would have to be J.D. because you. I mean, you're not with Dark Child.

[Damaris]

And Timberland did one already, right?

[Mal]

He did. I mean, the first one. Yeah, it was birthed. Was him and Swizz on.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

IG Live. They just did some fun when they were bored one night and made half a billion dollars off.

[Rory]

It would show us how rich they are. Just. Yo, what now I got. Y'all know how much this is kicking in residually every year?

[Mal]

Oh, yeah. And like, how many Jay Z, DMX records they just have on their hard drive just. Just sitting there?

[Rory]

Yeah, that. That was just like. That was the. That was MTV Cribs. Like, on a more intimate level. Let me show y'all what I really got.

[Mal]

This is kind of a morbid topic that I don't really want to put in the air, but we all pass away eventually. Do you think, in producers wills, like, their hard drives are going to be there? Because that's kind of a newer thing, you know, before DATs and everything. Yeah, those hard drives, like, have to be. Have some type of clause in your will. Right?

[Rory]

I was. I would believe so. Because that's part of your catalog, right. Even though it's not out yet.

[Mal]

No. Well, technically not. If it. There's no paperwork on it, it doesn't really exist. You can't do anything with it without paperwork and everyone agreeing. But it. It's not like your pub at that point.

[Rory]

But I mean, artists out. We've had artists pass away and music.

[Mal]

Is released, then they. Paperwork, everything. But I'm saying, like, if you come across three of Timberland's hard drives, you're probably gonna find some of the craziest records ever that never saw the light of day.

[Rory]

Three of them. Just one of them. Three of them. You hit the mother level, you find three timless hard drives. You out of here, man.

[Mal]

And of course, they're not in some of the family situations that some of us are in. Like, you know, when you have a family member die, you can't keep all this yard sales. Throw that up. Like that's how, like, I thought Boosie got the Kappa shirt. Because a lot of times when Kappas pass away, their families aren't members, so they just. They don't know what to do with it. So it ends up at a thrift store, and then someone just buys it.

[Damaris]

Not knowing exactly what they're buying. Yeah.

[Rory]

Awesome kid in Vietnam has a cap and jacket.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like the, like, the Chief super bowl.

[Rory]

Shirt from that ship. All that over there.

[Mal]

But can you imagine, like, if a famous producer just didn't have a lot of family and, like, didn't have a proper will, and then just some random nephew that they didn't even know all of a sudden inherits all this, and they have enough going on in their life, so they're just going through the basement and find all this, like, though, what am I doing with this? Yeah, let me. Let me sell this back to Staples.

[Rory]

Yeah, let's get it out of here. Yeah. But, I mean, I. I do think they have to have some type of thing. And they will, because that's still there.

[Mal]

Art. Like, I would love.

[Rory]

Even though it's not out, it would.

[Mal]

Be fun to do this while the producers were alive. Like a version of Storage wars with all their hard drives and, like, what that bidding would look like if you. If you had swizzes storage unit and.

[Rory]

It'S just three hard drives on the floor.

[Mal]

Yeah. And, like, all you have is, like, little hints of how they labeled it, like, 98 rough rider session or like.

[Rory]

Like a bottle of wine. Yes, 98.

[Mal]

And because, you know Storage wars, you kind of have to guess what's worth it. And sometimes it ends up being worth so much money, sometimes there's nothing. Imagine that with hard drives with our favorite producers.

[Rory]

That would be crazy.

[Mal]

That that would be a cool way to release unreleased music, just finding hard drives. And, you know, the way they auctioned off that Wu Tang album to that fucking dirtbag pharmacist guy. To me, if you wanted to raise money, do it through a storage War bit.

[Rory]

You watch Storage Wars?

[Mal]

I have before. It's not like my. My go to, but when I do watch it, I watch it for hours. It's one of those, like, I watch it once a year, but it's six hours once.

[Rory]

You there, you there.

[Mal]

That's fun. I like Storage Wars.

[Rory]

I love it. I love Storage Wars.

[Mal]

I can't. It's kind of shocking.

[Rory]

Why?

[Mal]

I don't know. You don't strike me as a Storage wars guy.

[Rory]

I just like when they start fighting over.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And once they go in there, and they'd be, like, mad that he. He outbidded him. You say, oh, you didn't hear me? And then they start scrapping, and then you come to find out that the unit's only worth $250. Y'all just fought for $250.

[Mal]

I more of a hoarders guy. Hoarders is hilarious.

[Rory]

That is disgusting.

[Mal]

I know.

[Rory]

That's like, the beauty. I could smell the tv. Like, I know it's stinking there. Like, you living in there. What the is going on?

[Mal]

And I love that they do, like, help those people out, but they don't help their addiction. They just give them a clean house to store more in.

[Rory]

No, they, like.

[Mal]

No one's curious.

[Rory]

No, no, no. They don't do that because they have therapists there. They give them care after and stuff like that and hope that they. Sometimes people take it, and sometimes they be like, yo, you know, then haven't heard from them and hopefully they're okay.

[Mal]

No, you just gave him a clean. It's. It's literally filing for bankruptcy. Give him a clean slate to go spend some more money. Anyways, though, I saw that Beyonce is allegedly struggling to sell the Cowboy Carter tickets.

[Rory]

Who said that?

[Damaris]

The news. A couple news articles. Just because it's not sold out. They say she's struggling because it's not sold out yet.

[Rory]

Let me help. Every news article, every news program out there. When it's showtime, each one of those arenas will be sold out. I can promise you that. People ain't buying it right now. They probably waiting, like, you know, get closer to the time. I got bills. People got bills right now. Tax, tax season to say people about to get their income tax. Oh, them tickets will be sold out. Don't trip.

[Damaris]

And even if they don't sell out, does that mean. Why is that a news article? Does that suddenly mean Beyonce's a failure if she wasn't able to sell out every stadium on her tour?

[Mal]

No. What.

[Damaris]

Like, what the.

[Mal]

Are we still Beyonce?

[Damaris]

What are we talking about? I can't even believe that that's a news article.

[Rory]

Trust me. Trust and believe those. Those tour. Those shows will be sold out.

[Mal]

Well, I think what this article from, you know, it's Yahoo at this point, used to be credible. Now who the knows? They're saying because of the ticket prices being so expensive that the average consumer can't afford it. And that's why it's not Beyonce's popularity. We. Beyonce has proven every other year that she can sell out stadiums, baseball field Everything constantly, no matter what they're speaking. I think to it being $1200 for some seats, but there's some for $93. That's still expensive for a ticket, don't get me wrong. But when you're going to high level shows at stadiums, 93 is cheaper than the sports that play there.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So it was $1,200 tickets at the last show.

[Mal]

There's $5,000 if you want to go into the Beehive VIP.

[Rory]

And all of that. And all of that shit was sold out.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

What are we talking about here, man? Because they didn't sell out yet. Okay, we get it.

[Damaris]

And also, it's not just a bm because I'm seeing like the news articles are saying, you know, sometimes the. Or people are saying the fans will retire for you if you're not ready to retire, which is such dumb shit in reference to Beyonce. But like live music everywhere is suffering. It has been suffering. Ticketmaster is a terrible conglomerate and they need to kill the CEO of that. Oh, I didn't say that out loud. I'm so sorry. Shit, I gotta bite my tongue sometimes. But no, for real, like, we killing the wrong CEOs. Like, Ticketmaster is terrible.

[Mal]

Not starting health insurance was a good move.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

Ticketmaster's a little lower than health insurance. Like, I feel you. The four dollar pre order handling fee, you have to pay four dollars just to get to the other fees. So I'm with you. Like they're on the list, but a little lower. Now let's deal with universal healthcare.

[Damaris]

But yeah, like Ticketmaster is insane. It's a recession. People don't have. Give people time. Give people time. They'll buy.

[Mal]

And also if they don't, if, if she doesn't, she will in 20. In 20 years. When we talk about Beyonce's career and legacy, we'll be like, you know, she, she was a pop star, but she didn't sell out Tennessee that one year.

[Rory]

Yeah, that one year she didn't sell out Atlanta. That was really a tough year for her.

[Mal]

We talking about put an asterisk next to her name. Like, I mean, lemonade's great.

[Rory]

Stupid.

[Damaris]

I. I just, I feel like the same thing as the album sales. We just. The general public just needs to stop knowing this information because they don't know what the to do with it.

[Mal]

Of course not like anything, but I mean, we're trained to be that way. We don't even know mortgages. You think we're gonna understand album sales and how strings work? Like, we're taught to be ignorant, and then they give us the info to make it look like we know what we're talking about. But, I mean, I'm excited for the tour. When is the MetLife date?

[Damaris]

Mine is May 28th.

[Mal]

May 28th. Okay. That is coming up.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it's close. Very close.

[Mal]

What's the first. First date?

[Damaris]

May 21st, if I'm not mistaken.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

MetLife took two months away, and they told me it's not sold out yet.

[Mal]

I'm sure MetLife is probably, I don't know, some tickets. Either way, there's always tickets. That's another thing, like, with the resale game and everything. Like, there's always tickets. Tickets. I know they're purchased, but people are always selling them back. Like, it's constantly happening up until. Even in the middle of the show. Yeah, you can buy them. Like, I. My God, brother. A lot of times buys the. The cheapest ticket, and then we'll look at the. What's available in the middle, like, at halftime, and then buy a. The cheapest ticket in the front row, and it ends up being cheaper than buying that front row ticket. In the long run, like, people are just constantly.

[Rory]

It's a game.

[Mal]

The data doesn't even, like, make sense of what's sold out and what's not at this point.

[Damaris]

But are you going?

[Mal]

I'd be down to go. I would buy a ticket, too.

[Damaris]

Chaps ass out, chaps up.

[Mal]

I mean, would you style me? What. What's your aesthetic?

[Damaris]

No, I was actually was gonna ask Kellen for help because I don't know about, like, the Southern rodeo. I don't know.

[Mal]

And you want to look like the person that just bought a cowboy hat.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's cheesy. I don't want to be that girl.

[Mal]

You want to be authentic, like, you really, like.

[Damaris]

I want to buy real cowboy boots. I want to have the real cowboy hat, not the one that they're going to sell at, like, Zara, you know.

[Mal]

That she's partnered with for the tour.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like, oh, you know, I want some real.

[Mal]

So, I mean, what if we showed up to MetLife, like, on horse Buggy, do you think there's, like, why horse.

[Damaris]

Why don't you just ride the actual. I know how to ride actual horses. You just.

[Mal]

In New Jersey, like, off the. Like, the Turnpike in Route 3. Like, not in a field. Like, I'm talking about on. On the way.

[Rory]

Because y'all letting Damaris get some sick off right now. Damaris, where you know how to ride a horse at?

[Damaris]

What do you mean I know how to ride horses?

[Rory]

How often do you ride horses?

[Damaris]

I used to horseback ride regularly in Syracuse. It was my pastime.

[Rory]

Okay. When the last time you rode a horse? I know you got the horse riding boots on today, but when the last time you were.

[Damaris]

Probably about six months ago. I ride horses. I have photos, multiple photos of me riding horses. And every time I visit a new city, I've tried to ride a horse there.

[Mal]

That's not.

[Damaris]

There's something wrong with riding horses.

[Rory]

I'm just saying I've never sent off.

[Mal]

The list for horse riding.

[Rory]

Do you have any videos on your Instagram of you riding horses? Any pictures?

[Damaris]

I took all of that stuff down, but, yeah, I have videos on my Instagram riding horses. They're all on my archive and on my phone.

[Rory]

I'm about to say we only saw her at the Saddle Ranch at the Mechanical Bowl.

[Mal]

She did.

[Damaris]

Well, no, I ride. I ride. I ride horses. I know how to ride horses.

[Rory]

When you say ride, though, like.

[Damaris]

Like, I don't like, like gallop.

[Rory]

No instructor. Just you.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Do you have the harness? Raw dog.

[Damaris]

There was a horse named Sierra out in Syracuse that I would ride so often that they would just let me take her out there because they knew. They trusted me.

[Mal]

How do you. Like, I've ridden a horse before, but it was in a controlled environment, like, just around. So how do you control a horse?

[Damaris]

What do you mean? How do you control a horse? I mean, I'm not. Right.

[Mal]

How did you. Wild Sierra, where to go?

[Damaris]

You direct her. But I don't. I'm kind of confused. About what?

[Mal]

Wait, you're confused that someone's asking how you control a large animal to do what you want?

[Damaris]

It's not. So have you ever ridden a horse?

[Mal]

Yeah, but, like, at a birthday party, like a. Oh, okay.

[Damaris]

So I'm like, no, Like, I've never.

[Mal]

Been on the ranch.

[Damaris]

Like, that's your sitting in. And the reins that you hold, you move them. It's almost like a steering wheel, but a lot gentler. But, yeah, you move that and it tells the horse, go left, go right, you can kick it to go faster. Like, it's. Yeah, I'm not a professional horse rider, but I ride horses.

[Rory]

We going horseback riding. I gotta see demerit.

[Mal]

We can do that.

[Damaris]

But yes, by no means am I a professional horse rider, but it is one of my favorite pastimes. I like riding horses.

[Mal]

I believe that she rode horses in her past, but I think she's changing the story. And she was actually a jockey. Fixing races with her.

[Damaris]

No, no, I've actually never been to horse. No, I watched the movie Focus. I do want to go, like, bet on horses one day or, like, go to the Kentucky Derby, hopefully, like, with a brand or something.

[Mal]

Like, would be fun. I'm not betting on that. I. I know nothing about it. Feels too much like a chance to me. I'd be too emotional. I wouldn't enjoy, like, the experience if I was betting on horses. I'm cool.

[Rory]

Yeah. That's why I stopped. Never mind. We got sponsors.

[Mal]

Oh, no. Football. I'll bet all day. But horses, now, that's Saddle Ranch. I should be doing. But with that said. All right, so you can. You have the horse plug. Let's see if we can get them on Route 3. I had a MetLife plug. I can see if maybe we could find some horse parking.

[Rory]

No, I want to see Damaris ride a horse, though.

[Mal]

Can you imagine if we showed up to the Cowboy Carter show on horseback? Like, we'd be legends.

[Rory]

No, you'd actually be in the way of people trying to drive their cars, and they would tell you to get the.

[Mal]

Out the road everywhere.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's what they would tell you. Get the fuck out the road.

[Mal]

Do you think Beyonce will have, like, ride a horse the way she did for the Christmas halftime show at the show?

[Rory]

Yeah. Yeah, I could see her definitely at some point being on a horse at the show. That'd be a part of yourself or.

[Damaris]

Like, the mechanical bull type thing, for sure.

[Mal]

Can you imagine, like, at the stable, all the horses, like, you know, Sierra's there, Tamara shows up, they go around, and then one of the horses, like, yeah, I'm about to go on tour with Beyonce. That's my gig now.

[Rory]

Yeah. And, you know, the horse is acting crazy at the stable with the rest.

[Mal]

Of the horses right now, talking all that.

[Rory]

Yeah. Like, hey, I don't eat that.

[Mal]

Julius. Get them away from me.

[Rory]

Yeah, don't eat that. Get that grass out of here.

[Mal]

I have security now. If you have to, like, be a horse that's not free in, like, the Midwest or whatever, what a cool gig to have. Like. Yeah, just Beyonce rides me out, I take her to stage, and then I go right back and I get my carrots.

[Rory]

Yeah. Lay down on silk pillows and, like, it's all good.

[Damaris]

Sorry, I was trying to find a picture, a couple pictures of me on horses to send to Josh.

[Mal]

Yeah, no, that's. That's the carnivals where you paid $5 for the photo. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

That horse is definitely chained to that that fence?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Until we get up and get moving. The.

[Mal]

You be talking to Sierra.

[Rory]

I gotta see video of it.

[Damaris]

Sierra was wild. Sierra was. She had an attitude problem. So, like, she was either cool or she was, like, she getting her moves where she wouldn't want you to get on top of her. Like, she was.

[Mal]

Was she an Aries?

[Rory]

You definitely a tourist?

[Damaris]

Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Wishy washy and, like, moody. Taurus, for sure.

[Rory]

So she's a woman?

[Damaris]

Yeah, that was a horse. I took that photo. Oh, God, that's a terrible photo of me when I was trying to ride a horse when I was traveling during COVID That was. That was on the border of San Diego and Mexico.

[Mal]

That's kind of fire.

[Damaris]

Yeah. So I, like, ran it in, like, the beach and the water. It was. It was fun.

[Mal]

They had the option in Mexico to do the horse or the four wheeler. And I was like, I'll take the.

[Rory]

Four wheeler every day.

[Damaris]

Really?

[Mal]

The horse would have been more beautiful on the beach. Just give me the four wheeler.

[Rory]

And you know how you think you probably look on a horse that's galloping? You don't look like that. For real. Like, you look scared. You look like you.

[Mal]

I don't like. I don't look like the girls that post the photo when they're on the beach on the horse, way more attractive. I would look nuts.

[Rory]

I'm not. With no horse. I could barely control a pit bull. You think I'm gonna get on the horse? Hell, no.

[Damaris]

It's the feeling, especially when they're, like, running. Like, when you're running a horse. Like, especially when we were on the beach, it was so much like wind and you could smell the ocean. Like, it's. It's a ethereal experience. You guys definitely have to try it.

[Rory]

That's beautiful.

[Mal]

I think at this point, cops still using horseback in New York City is officially animal cruelty. Like before, I kind of understood what it was. You know, there's traffic, they can get around easier. We have different types of bikes. We have those things that you just push forward and go. Why are cops still on horseback dressed not for combat. They're dressed for style on horses, not doing anything. That's animal cruelty.

[Rory]

Whoa.

[Mal]

You don't need the horse.

[Rory]

The horses live. Those horses are very well taken care of, though.

[Mal]

Why are the police horse.

[Rory]

They definitely live great lives.

[Mal]

But why?

[Rory]

I mean, you know, let them roam free. Well, yeah, I agree.

[Mal]

There's no purpose except for show. It's a show thing.

[Rory]

Well, now then, you know, you used to have purpose. They need horses at juve for sure in Brooklyn.

[Damaris]

So it's for crowd control, Crime deterrence, public relations.

[Rory]

Crowd control. Juve. All right, they need a horse at juve.

[Mal]

They have pepper spray, tear gas. We've seen them in action.

[Damaris]

No, but. But they're mount, like, so they're mounted. They can see higher than the crowd. They can see things that are going on, and they can get there in a timely manner without running people over with cars and places where cars.

[Mal]

I was saying, the electronic shits they have now, either with just regular bicycles or those electronic joints that they be on sometimes. That to me, is somebody.

[Rory]

Segue.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I ain't no cop catching me on no fucking segue, man. Get out of here.

[Mal]

You think he catching me on horseback?

[Rory]

I've seen it.

[Mal]

I'm hopping that turnstile immediately, and Sierra's going head first into it.

[Rory]

Well, I mean, if you. I mean, ain't no horse gonna go down those subway steps. Ain't no horse going down those subway steps. I mean, I'm just saying, in the streets, I've definitely seen dudes get locked up, like by a cop on a horse.

[Mal]

All I need is a revolving door, and she's not happening. That is the dumbest thing. That's just to. For show to feel authority.

[Rory]

Yeah. A lot of police presence is just authority, though.

[Mal]

But there needs to. It needs to be attached to some type of action. If something goes wrong, they died to use it. No. When was the last time you read in any newspaper that the suspect was caught on horseback? Name one.

[Damaris]

Well, technically, you gotta get down like, take.

[Rory]

Nah. No, you don't. I seen the cop grab a. By his shirt and was on top of the horse. This nigga's face was on the thigh.

[Mal]

It was like gladiator.

[Rory]

Yeah, he had him like this until another cop came to battle. Yeah, he ain't got to get off that horse.

[Mal]

I've seen in the paper, on the news. Cops pursued them in the car. They even named the cop car, what number it was, got out, pursued him on foot. I've never once read that. They were caught by horseback. Bicycle. I've seen everything. Even. Even with crowd control, the crowd was controlled by tear gas. The crowd was controlled by batons. Okay, well, SWAT gear.

[Damaris]

No, that does not. Let's not advocate for that. Let's.

[Mal]

I'm just telling you what they do.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they be catching folk.

[Rory]

Nah, it's crowd control. Because if a horse starts coming up.

[Mal]

The upper hand on the sidewalk. If a cop is on a horse.

[Rory]

Yeah, but that's not what I like my odds. No, no, you not. That's that big ass horse, though.

[Damaris]

Like, we're not talking about people who really are committing huge crimes like crowd control.

[Mal]

Man, I'll just start running in circles. Confuse the out of those Rory.

[Damaris]

There. Also, it says public relations. The mounted unit is a popular and recognizable symbol of the nypd fostering positive interactions with the.

[Mal]

It also says CPR on the side of their car that says respect, purity, whatever. The.

[Rory]

Yeah, they courtesy, professionalism and respect. What's wrong with you, though?

[Damaris]

Purity is crazy.

[Rory]

You think the NYPD is pure?

[Mal]

No, I'm telling you, they lie about what they're out there to do.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. Absolutely.

[Mal]

Do you feel like there's a good civil communication when you see that cop on that horse?

[Rory]

No, I've just seen when acting up in the streets and once cops with.

[Mal]

Horses pull up, disperse because it smells.

[Rory]

Yeah. You don't want that big ass. You turn around, see a big ass horse face in front of you. You moving. I guarantee you, you moving off that sidewalk.

[Mal]

I would love. You know we did with Dale in Detroit, we did the. The whole training course would. That'll be a civil servant. Whatever. I've seen other, like, content creators do the police course. You and I should do the police horse course. Just that one. Like how to get certified as a police officer on a horse. Because there has to be some type of training.

[Rory]

Oh, I mean, yeah, you gotta know how to ride a horse first.

[Mal]

Yeah. But I'm sure you have to like.

[Rory]

Be able to do Speak horse.

[Mal]

That too. It's like when the white cops try to speak Spanish.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Hola. Just say hi. But no. What's the game? Polo. Like, I'm sure you have to know like some polo moves and with the baton. Yeah. You got to know how to like really grab a suspect on. On horseback. And then like, what do you do with them?

[Rory]

I told you now they just hold them close to the horse. You're not moving because you scared that horse gonna kick the out you. You ain't moving next to no horse.

[Mal]

I mean, because I've seen videos of like the army training with dogs and police dogs and stuff like that. That's a process. Process. I can only imagine what the horse wanted.

[Rory]

The whole. The cops needed. They need to change dogs too. Ain't scared of German shepherds no more.

[Damaris]

Who ain't?

[Rory]

Yeah. If a horse pull up with a red nose pit. If a cop pull up with a red nose pit, you start running and a red nose Pit jump out the. Jump out the cop car. You definitely are slowing down.

[Mal]

Well, if they walk out with a Chihuahua, I know that thing is trained to kill. I'm scared of any dog that a cop is with that got the vest on and canine on it, it's great.

[Rory]

I am pull you over. Canine jump out the back. A Chihuahua jump out the back seat.

[Mal]

I know that's a sleeper cell. Like, that's. That's the one.

[Rory]

Man, I kicked the out that Chihuahua. Nah, I wish a chihuahua would chase me in the projects. Get the fuck out of here.

[Damaris]

I think that black people have a fear of. I know me personally, I've always had a fear of German shepherds because they've always been connected to being police dogs for me. So even people who just have them at their crib, I'm like, nah, I don't your dog racist. I don't fuck with it. Like, I don't know.

[Rory]

And if you own a German shepherd and you ain't got a house, what the fuck you doing? That dog too big to be in this studio apartment. My nigga.

[Mal]

Training it. Training it for the first time.

[Rory]

Why you got this big ass dog in an apartment building? Like get a house, man.

[Mal]

What's the. What's the history of the German shepherd and why it ended up in the police force? I have an idea, but I don't want to be wrong.

[Damaris]

What's your idea?

[Rory]

This is why you could just search it so you ain't got to say nothing crazy but just pull it up.

[Mal]

Ironic like that breed ended up being.

[Rory]

Well, it says German shepherds are popular as police dogs due to their intelligence, trainability, loyalty and physical capabilities to catch niggers.

[Mal]

I'm saying who figured that out?

[Rory]

Yeah, it was trial and error. They had the resources they used before. Yeah, how did they just land on German shepherds? I'm telling you, somebody at the station just had a German shepherd one day and they said that's the official police dog.

[Mal]

Man, I watched a tear jerker. What's the movie that recently came out last like five years of the. The bomb dog in Iraq was a true story about the woman with her dog. What was it? Megan Levy's in it. That's his best friend's wife.

[Rory]

Megan Levy is the name of it.

[Mal]

Such a random fact.

[Rory]

Wait, what the just happened? Megan Levy is the actress or is that the name of the movie?

[Mal]

Oh, wait, Megan Levy is the real person? Yeah. Oh, well, absolute to her service. I cried throughout the entire movie. Is the dog still alive? Oh, damn. She has A German shepherd now, got you? Well, yeah, she was in the Marines and got like stationed as one of the dog handlers where they check out the minefields and bombs and bomb sniffing and she got blown up a bunch of times. And it's. If you want to cry, wait.

[Rory]

The dog got blown up a bunch of times?

[Mal]

Both of them. I feel like.

[Rory]

Well, what do you mean a bunch of times? I thought once you get blown up once, that's it. No, you're saying a bunch of times.

[Mal]

This is how ill Megan is. After that, she was like, no, I'm straight. Let's go. The dog too. No, she's a true American hero.

[Damaris]

Did she lose a limb?

[Mal]

No, but she. She got up though. The dog ended up losing a limb or something. But, you know, we've all seen three legged dogs. They fine.

[Rory]

When y'all say they got blown up, what do you mean blown up? Okay, cuz I seen get blown up before them. Ain't live to see another time.

[Mal]

I'm obviously not a marine expert, but just based off the amount of bomb and minefields that they have to search, the odds are in your favor that you're going to be blown up a few times.

[Damaris]

Stop saying blown up.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's what they lose. He losing me.

[Damaris]

I think your body parts are splattered. Like, that's blown up to me.

[Mal]

Bomb went off right next to them.

[Damaris]

Okay, okay.

[Rory]

All right. So they went in the blast.

[Mal]

Would you want to say blown to smithereens? Like.

[Rory]

No, I want you to say, you know, they were close to like bombs when it went off.

[Mal]

Yeah, they literally lived in the minefield.

[Rory]

But you can't say blown up. You know what I'm saying?

[Mal]

They weren't blown up.

[Rory]

Rory, if. If you come in here and say, yo, my dog got blown up last night, I'm like, damn. And then if you follow that up with, nah, she good, I'm gonna be like, but then your dog didn't get blown up.

[Mal]

He's a soldier.

[Rory]

But then your dog didn't get blown up, like.

[Mal]

Yes. If a bomb goes off in here and we all survive, you don't think I'm going to tell everyone that we got blown up?

[Damaris]

No, we didn't.

[Rory]

No. I think if we got blown up, we wouldn't be around to say, nobody that we got blown up.

[Mal]

You never heard someone that got shot in that terminology too? Yeah, he got blown up, like. Yeah.

[Rory]

Nah, man, he got shot when he didn't make it. Guess what? He got killed. That's the difference. Blown up means you're dead.

[Mal]

If me and BA Are walking through the desert and hit a mine, and the mine blows. Blows up, and then we go this way, and we both get injured. Me and Baez got blown the up. No, we survived to tell the story. I mean, Megan's ill. I'm not going back to that minefield.

[Rory]

She.

[Mal]

She's different.

[Rory]

I mean. I guess. I mean. So in. In the Boston Marathon, when those sprinters, when the bomb.

[Mal]

They got blown up.

[Rory]

They say they got blown up.

[Damaris]

No.

[Mal]

What do they say? I was assaulted by a mixture of grocery products the right way.

[Rory]

They say I was. I was there. I was there that day. Damn, we laugh. I don't mean to laugh at that. That's crazy.

[Mal]

No, it's fine. Because one of my favorite Chris Rock SNL jokes they killed him for was he did a monologue. He said, imagine running 26 miles. You train all it. You get to the finish line, and someone yells, run.

[Rory]

Like, more. Just ran Boston.

[Mal]

It's a bomb run. No, I'm exhausted.

[Damaris]

I would be. I'll be pissed.

[Rory]

Yo. Oh, man, that's. We should be laughing at that.

[Mal]

Well, Megan Levy, the movie is incredible.

[Damaris]

And.

[Mal]

Sorry, Josh, I thought that was the name of the actor, not the actual woman. Oh, so you knew the. You know, the woman woman. Well, she. She's a hero. And if you. Yeah. If you want to cry dogs in military, that's all you need.

[Damaris]

She got ptsd.

[Mal]

That's like a bulk of. Actually, she's very well adjusted.

[Damaris]

He says she's very well adjusted to regular life.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

Dog in the movie, shout out to Megan Levy.

[Mal]

Yeah, she definitely goes through that.

[Rory]

That.

[Damaris]

Do y'all watch, like, the. Like the military tap outs or military surprises, like, online when people do, like, military surprises.

[Mal]

What does that mean? Oh, like when someone's.

[Rory]

When the family come back.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Mal]

Oh, of course.

[Rory]

Yeah. And they can't move until they're like, yeah. Told they can get out of line.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I mean, we. When we were trying to get mall to cry, it was that stuff. Plus the can you adopt me? Step Parent YouTube videos. Those are the two that.

[Rory]

Yeah, I didn't. I don't. When my sister had to go to Iraq. I don't. They didn't. I don't know how they did it when she came back, because I don't think I was there. We went when she was leaving, getting deployed, but I don't know if they did that when they got back. I would have to ask her.

[Mal]

Got you. And where did she deploy? Out of Virginia. Out of Virginia. Okay.

[Damaris]

Oh, so that's the Air Force. That's the Air Force thing.

[Mal]

What?

[Rory]

Oh, yeah.

[Damaris]

Basic training.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

What's that send off like?

[Rory]

Oh, man, I was crying like a fucking. Cause you almost feel like you sending your fucking relatives off to die.

[Mal]

That's what I mean. I didn't want to say that.

[Rory]

Yeah. Like, I was like, sure.

[Mal]

That's, like, in the air.

[Rory]

Yeah, absolutely. Like, some. Some of y'all ain't coming back. That's just the reality of it. Like, and you just sitting there, like, it just felt like, this is completely crazy. This is wrong. Like, what are we doing? Like, we all sitting in there, Somebody's giving a speech, and my sister is standing right here with military equipment on, getting ready to get on a bus to go to the airport to go to Iraq. Like, the. Are we. Like, what is this?

[Damaris]

Oh, your sis. Your sister was in Iraq?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

What years?

[Rory]

This was 2000. This was around the war. 2003.

[Damaris]

Oh, wow.

[Rory]

Oh, she was right after 9 11. Yeah, right after 9 11.

[Mal]

Yeah. My family's such. My cousin Evan went in 08 in North Africa, then to Afghanistan, and we didn't go to his send off, but they filmed the whole thing of, like, my aunt, like, bawling on the ground of the cement. Like, as he was leaving. I was like, yo, y'all are assholes. Why would you film this? Like, they're sending it to us? I'm like, you guys are sick.

[Rory]

Yeah. That experience is. My sister was telling me about a family that used to help them out over there. They would come, like, do their laundry, things like that, you know? And then for a while, they hadn't seen them. They was like, yo, like, they didn't come back to the base. They haven't been around. And. And I think when it happened, they ended up killing the family because they found out that they were helping the American troops.

[Damaris]

Oh, wow.

[Rory]

So it was like, a young kid, mother, father. Crazy shit, man. Crazy.

[Damaris]

And this is your twin?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Wow.

[Mal]

Do you feel less of a man that you weren't going over there for?

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Mal]

Like, it should have been you.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm a. For sure. Absolutely.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God. I remember being young. This was 04, so I was 10. And I remember crying every single time my cousin would go off, like, because he was stationed in Iraq. And every time he would come home, I would be so happy. And then he would, like, you know, go and do another tour. And I remember just crying, like, as a kid. It's very confusing because you don't know exactly what's going on. And my parents would have CNN on 24. 7, and every time somebody would knock at the door, my grandmother would freak out. It was. It was heavy.

[Rory]

Yeah. That's great.

[Mal]

I mean, not. Not to say that 08 to 2012 wasn't insane when my cousin was there, but I could only imagine, like, mid-2000s, there's. Anytime you turn on the TV, it was just fucking death, death, death. Iraq. This is crazy. That must have been stressful.

[Rory]

And it's crazy because when she joined it, like, it wasn't no wars. It was like, everything was kind of peaceful. Wasn't, like, much going on.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like, imagine you September 1, 2001, a year into her.

[Rory]

A year into it, 9, 11 happened. It was like, all right, we're definitely going to war now. Like, yeah, it was crazy.

[Damaris]

And you can't just like. Like, nah, I quit, actually.

[Rory]

I mean, you can, but then. What is that called? Awol? Absent without leave.

[Damaris]

Yeah, like.

[Rory]

Yeah. Or dishonorable discharge. It's like. It's a whole bunch of. That comes with that. Like, you go to jail for that. Yeah, go to jail forever. Attached to your Social Security is like, Bert Bodu.

[Mal]

Whatever the. That kid's name was. Cereal did, like, their second or third season about it. He was. He was in Iraq and just left the camp and then got captured by the Taliban and was there for, like, five, six years or whatever. And the rumors were that he kind of joined up with them or was he really a prisoner? It was a lot of back and forth. And then I think Obama got him back. And, like, they killed Obama for that because most people thought he went AWOL and joined the Taliban rather than. He was in a camp, more or less.

[Damaris]

Bo Bergdahl.

[Mal]

That's what it is. If you guys watch Zero Day yet. Speaking of things that would send us to war. No, I'm on the last episode. I want to say it's good so far. I won't give anything away till you.

[Rory]

Guys watch it, but Jason Bateman in that. I feel like he's in every.

[Mal]

No, no, he's missing from that. He would fit perfectly into it.

[Rory]

Yo, Jason Bateman got to be the hardest working man to show business.

[Damaris]

Did y'all see his latest commercial? Sorry.

[Rory]

Jason Bateman.

[Damaris]

Jason Bateman's. Yeah. Where he's playing Batman, but instead of Batman, he's Bateman. It's a. I think it's a Verizon commercial. It has Kai Sina in it. Sza is playing Catwoman.

[Mal]

No, I missed that.

[Damaris]

It's so funny.

[Rory]

I haven't seen that yet.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Was that a Super Bowl?

[Damaris]

No, release. That came out like, it was supposed.

[Rory]

To be, but it got, like, pushed back.

[Damaris]

Oh, we got pushed back. Yeah. It came out, like, this week. Sometime this week.

[Rory]

Oh, okay.

[Mal]

Did we talk about the Jason Baten movie where he plays the bad guy in at tsa?

[Rory]

I watched it.

[Mal]

Okay. Do we ever talk about that on the show?

[Damaris]

No, I don't think it's terrible.

[Mal]

Okay. Nothing checks out as far as reality in it, but I didn't think it was a bad movie. We looked up the name of that.

[Damaris]

Carry On.

[Mal]

Carry On.

[Rory]

That shit was terrible. I watched it because of you. It was cool because you came in, you was like, yo, I. I like it.

[Mal]

It was kind of, like, awful reviews, but I was entertained the entire time.

[Rory]

That was one of the first Jason Bateman movies. I felt like he just took that, like, on his day off. He, like. He did that in two days. It took him two days to shoot that.

[Mal]

Nothing checked out as far as the amount of cameras and security in an airport. But. But, you know, it's a movie.

[Rory]

And then look who saved him at the end. Like, just get the out.

[Mal]

So many times people could have exited the situation and this would have been over. Now you're on the wheel of a plane. Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, come on with this, man.

[Mal]

Zero Day is. I won't say it's similar to that, but it is like the attack on the country type of thing. But they go about it with all the electricity and power. It's. It's one of those similar. What was the one that the Obamas produced?

[Damaris]

Oh, God, I know.

[Rory]

What. The end of the end of the world.

[Mal]

Yeah, It's. It's not like that, but it's like that. It's one of those. It's one of those movies where it's like, are they with us or are they warning us? I mean, are they trying to keep us scared or is this probably gonna happen?

[Rory]

Well, we kind of had some situation with the guy in Canada over the electricity. The last four or five days, him and Trump have been kind of going.

[Mal]

Back, and I mean, X going down. Same thing.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Russian attack.

[Rory]

I gotta watch this, though, because anything with Daenery I watch, so I'm definitely. Check this out.

[Mal]

He. He's great in it. I was a little nervous because what.

[Rory]

Is De Niro not great in? But he's.

[Mal]

He's getting old as. So sometimes, so he has to play these roles. I'm just waiting for, like, that one role, it's like, dude, he's gotta hang it up. He's. He's great in it. He's phenomenal.

[Damaris]

So this isn't when he's playing his twin. That's coming up, right?

[Mal]

No.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

No, that's.

[Mal]

No, no.

[Rory]

That's a Mafia movie. Yeah.

[Mal]

And he's not playing his twin. He's playing both. Both mob bosses. They're not.

[Damaris]

Well, his twins.

[Mal]

He's just playing both of them.

[Rory]

Imagine to be a twin, mob bosses. Imagine it being two.

[Damaris]

I'm not respecting.

[Mal]

That would be a wild RICO case.

[Rory]

Like, who do you charge? It wasn't me. I wasn't doing that.

[Mal]

Prove it.

[Rory]

Prove it was me. Wasn't me.

[Mal]

Same DNA.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Imagine snitching on your brother because of DNA.

[Rory]

That's how you got to get it off.

[Mal]

Which, I mean, I'm gonna see that. That De Niro movie. I just feel like they could have found someone else. Like, there's a lot of actors.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But it doesn't play both.

[Rory]

Oh, the. The movie that's coming up.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Oh, okay.

[Mal]

I just, you know, it's a big call sheet.

[Rory]

What's the name of it?

[Mal]

Let's look it up.

[Rory]

He's the head of the. Because Scorsese's doing it, right.

[Mal]

It's called Alto Knights. He's playing Vito Genovese and Frank Costello. Both know old mob bosses that, you know, help start the whole. And it's actually Barry Levinson. It's not okay. Scorsese, but, I mean, Barry Levinson is a credible, legendary director. So. Yeah, I'm interested to see. I. I give a lot to De Niro, man. He's. How. How old is he actually at this point?

[Rory]

Got to be 80. Huh.

[Mal]

He's still having kids and knocking out Netflix series. Like a movie. That's one thing. Thing. Each one of these episodes on zero days an hour, like he's filming for real.

[Rory]

81 years old.

[Damaris]

It's a nice 81.

[Rory]

What. What is that?

[Damaris]

Career. He's the work.

[Rory]

What is that?

[Damaris]

He's talented. He's a talented man. He's still talent. I just agree with what y'all was saying. Yo, y'all always trying to make me the horn ball on the podcast.

[Rory]

You just said.

[Damaris]

I'm just.

[Rory]

That's 81.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

No, but it was. It was the before that. That. That's not indicative of his work. Is great.

[Damaris]

He looks.

[Mal]

She's a amazing fan.

[Damaris]

He looks amaz. You know, black girls.

[Rory]

He look amazing for 80. He look like cold Oatmeal. What are you talking about?

[Damaris]

That's not.

[Mal]

Robert Daro doesn't look great in Zero Day. His role is the. The past president. Like the old.

[Rory]

He looks Dementia Biden president Bobby Dairo looks crazy.

[Mal]

You talk about 81 year old Italian.

[Rory]

Yeah, but he doesn't look great.

[Damaris]

I think he look. I don't think he looks a damn.

[Rory]

He looks great in Taxi Cab. Maybe even Kate Fear right now.

[Mal]

No, he looked old in Goodfellas in 1990.

[Rory]

He looks great.

[Damaris]

Whatever.

[Rory]

Tamaras is great.

[Damaris]

He doesn't look a day over 75.

[Rory]

Yes, he does. He looks two days from 90. What are you talking about?

[Mal]

I finished paradise. Watched the last episode.

[Damaris]

Oh, you did?

[Mal]

Yeah, because I still had to finish like the second half of it. Left a cliffhanger for season two. I'm excited how you feel.

[Rory]

I gotta watch that. Cuz every like since I think Damaris mentioned it, probably six people have told me about that show.

[Mal]

Yes, it's really, really good.

[Damaris]

I think that the. The season finale was a lit. A little underwhelming, but I enjoyed.

[Mal]

Okay, I. I agree with you. But. But if they didn't get greenlit for the second season like halfway through the first one it been. I'd be kind of pissed actually.

[Damaris]

Oh really?

[Mal]

Cuz it just left so much like him getting. I'm not going to spoil it, but it left first season two to see what. What's out there.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I want to know how the. I want to know how the evil person became so evil. Cuz like they gave you a little bit but like that ain't enough to make you that evil. Like I want to know what made you that evil.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

So.

[Mal]

But sense Amara like goes to like sleep on time now I'm like I'm back on my Netflix. I'm caught up with so much stuff. We rarely talk about shows. That's because I never get to watch them. I watched Russ's debut as an actor trap M. Night Shyamalan. I'm mispronouncing it again.

[Damaris]

Is it good?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

I did really, really like it. I couldn't figure out if it was a comedy or a horror at least halfway through. And I'm. I'm still a little confused on what it was. But I know M Night does a lot of that, like I don't know fog between the two genres of is this real or not? It's like purposeful, terrible acting. But I think that's the point. It's about. It's about this guy that takes his daughter to see a pop star that she loves, like Raven something.

[Rory]

And they get locked in the arena.

[Mal]

There's an FBI sting operation going for a serial killer that's in the arena at the show. And that's the premise of it. And Russ.

[Rory]

That's a great actual, like, storyline.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Mal]

Russ is the, like, surprise guest that she brings out. I forgot what they named Russ, but it was. It was funny. Not Russ. I mean, Russ did. Russ, he went up and performed on stage and did great. Great.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

And then at the end. Well, not in the end. The end of the show, he comes out of his green room. I see what Russ was trying to do. He had had his shirt all open. I don't think M. Night told him to do that. I think Russ was just getting on his coming out the.

[Rory]

Yeah, he said to add his little.

[Mal]

You know, I'm styling myself.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mal]

But I thought it was cool. It was a good movie. Trying to think what else I. The Manson Murders. Again, similar to the OJ do we need another doc? No. Will I watch it?

[Rory]

Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Mal]

Watch the Manson.

[Rory]

I'll tell you what I will not be watching. Raising Canaan. Season came back.

[Damaris]

Oh, God.

[Rory]

Listen, man, I love 50. I think what he's done in TV is incredible. But this.

[Mal]

You got me nervous because I like, freezing. Can.

[Rory]

Did you see the way it ended last?

[Mal]

No, I haven't seen the.

[Rory]

Yeah, I saw it ended like how Unique got. So episode one came out and I'm like, all right, let me see this. How they gonna try to say Unique got? Found his way out of the middle of the woods after getting beat in the back of the head with a pipe where he should be dead, but he all of a sudden alive. He somehow wakes up from this near death beating with a lead pipe, crawls his way to a gas station and finds his phone. Remembers his homeboy's number after getting beat in the back of his head naturally with a pipe. Remembers somebody's number. Calls his friend. Friend comes pick him up. Doesn't want to alert anybody, so you can't take him to the hospital. So where do they take him? You guessed it. To the veterinarian. Okay, Takes him to a vet.

[Mal]

Makes sense.

[Rory]

Next time we see him, he's in his homeboy's crib, recovering, hiding out. He don't even have a gauze pad on. No stitches.

[Mal]

Wolverine. That's why he went to the vet.

[Rory]

Like, okay, just make this believable a little bit.

[Mal]

But Raising Cannon is the prelude of power. It's what happened before. Now we're starting to get closer to the power years where nothing makes any sense that you can do that.

[Rory]

Yeah. But I just.

[Mal]

Because in the power world, because I.

[Rory]

Like raising Canaan, I think. I think that that was the series, you know, it started off great. I was like, damn, this is really, you know, like, 50 really is finding his way.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

In this TV shit. And he's really carving these stories out. Like. But when, you know, the way it ended last year and Unique was standing there in the warehouse or he's alive. I was like, all right, man. This is when shit is just too much of a soap opera. It's too unbelievable. And now that you having a 50.

[Mal]

In a warehouse in power.

[Rory]

Yeah. No, but this was. We watched Ronnie beat Unique in the back of his head with that pipe and drag him to the middle of nowhere and dump his body. And all of a sudden, he wakes up from that, beaten with a lead pipe to the back of his head in the middle of the woods, finds a gas station somewhere to call back to the case. That's why we never believed it. It just doesn't. It doesn't add up, man. What do we. It's just too unbelievable. We saw.

[Mal]

We saw 50 get blown up in a warehouse in power.

[Rory]

It wasn't. It was a fire. It wasn't blown up. And that, to me, is more believable than this.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Unique, Ronnie. Like, Unique is. He's supposed to be dead, man. Like. And then now he goes to a vet, and the vet just gives him some antibiotics or something and he's healing. Like, come on, man. I. I just can't. I don't.

[Damaris]

50 caters to his audience.

[Rory]

What does that mean?

[Damaris]

He knows who his audience is. He knows who the people who are die hard, raising Canaan power. He knows they like that super dramatic shit because they like the super shit.

[Rory]

It could be super dramatic, but it gotta be realistic. Come on. He was better off saying that. He crawled to the side of the road and was laying in the street and somebody driving just saw him and was like, what the fuck? He found a gas station and then a phone booth, and after getting his brains beat out, remembered somebody's phone number. Come on with this.

[Mal]

Say you're not like that.

[Rory]

You're right. I. I'm not like that. I don't. I just can't. I don't like when it turns into too much of a soap opera. That's all.

[Mal]

I do suggest you guys check out the chaos Manson murder doc that Netflix just added. Of course, I knew that Charlie Manson And Manson Family stories. Like, I. It's pop culture. And I knew that he was an artist and had worked with, like, Beach Boys drummer and all that. I did not know he had the voice of a angel. They played unreleased. Charlie, Please, dog. I had to YouTube it. That shit's on my, like, my playlist now. Charlie Manson.

[Damaris]

Do not listen to that, Rory.

[Mal]

He's dope. There's been plenty of artists that we listen to that kill people.

[Damaris]

No, but like, that type that's, like, demonic. Like, that'll rewire your brain. You don't need to be listening to that.

[Mal]

It might wire it better reverse it might fix something.

[Rory]

Turn it up.

[Mal]

I mean, he. Should we not listen to Beach Boys? He wrote for them.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but he. But his voice. It's like listening to, like, a. Like a siren sing like. You shouldn't be listening to that, man.

[Rory]

Women sent that panties while he was locked.

[Mal]

No, it's one thing to have hoes, but it's one thing to have hoes kill for you. He was ill. He was a different level. Like, he never actually killed anyone. He just sent people to kill. And you know what's funny? You ask, did he write for them? He did. What kind of started his whole anger was he wrote a record with the Beach Boys drummer who ended up taking it and not giving him any. Any pub or any credit. So they broke apart like they was crew at their little ranch. And after he didn't get his pub. Look what the music industry fucking does. He left and started his own cult because the pub company and the artist him over. It's kind of the story of if.

[Rory]

So the Beach Boys led Charles Manson into killing people.

[Mal]

In my theory, based off what they gave there. Yeah. That was the turning point. Like, they were still weird and on their hippie at that ranch, but they weren't murdering people until his name wasn't in the Spotify credits.

[Rory]

Got you. Okay.

[Mal]

And if you think about it, with these artists that end up being psycho serial killers, if somebody would have just liked Hitler's paintings and, like, gave him a gallery world. Be different.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mal]

If Charlie Manson. If you just would have credited him for the shit that he wrote. He has the demo.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And it's one of those where the demo is better than the regular. Yeah, he has it right there. If Sony would have just given him that pub, we'd be having a different story. There'd be plenty of people still alive.

[Damaris]

Damn.

[Mal]

And it goes into theory of mind control and ciac, who already knew I was at the edge of My seat.

[Rory]

Yeah, I believe your type of shit, the weird shit.

[Damaris]

So you're gonna split on your next album?

[Mal]

I mean, I'm sure after his death, somebody bought the puppy. I'm sure finally he got his credit.

[Rory]

Insane.

[Mal]

I was thinking about playing it, but I thought, like, would we get flagged? And who would flag it? Because that's sick. If you own the. The Charlie Manson back catalog, we should.

[Rory]

Do it just to see.

[Mal]

And you're not widelisting so you can catch people on YouTube. Yeah, whoever owns that catalog is sick. But, yeah, I suggest people watch that. I'm back on my Netflix.

[Rory]

Did y'all see the high school runners? The girl who. Who hit the girl in the head with the baton, Right?

[Mal]

And the first thing I thought was, damn, I never thought of that.

[Rory]

Why people can't just admit they was on some bullshit. Why this girl running around talking about that was an accident.

[Mal]

Running around, sitting on the couch crying, like, why isn't anyone concerned about me?

[Rory]

Yeah, like, what is she talking about? Like, you. You got mad. That girl was about to smoke you beating your ass, and you had a moment where you just was like, fuck this, and hit her in the head with the baton.

[Mal]

When I saw the first angle, I. I did not not believe her, but I was like, all right. I guess sometimes on the turns your body can get a little up. No, I saw the angle from behind. You wound up and went like this.

[Rory]

That wasn't.

[Mal]

That was not your running.

[Rory]

Not a natural running style. Running motion. That was not.

[Mal]

Did that on purpose for sure.

[Rory]

Absolutely.

[Mal]

That's some sick.

[Rory]

That was done on purpose, and that's super dangerous.

[Damaris]

Like, you could have really injured that woman.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I don't know what Patana was like in track from high school and college. The regular batons aren't really that crazy at regular meets, but if you get to, like, a championship meet or, you know, something in indoor tracks that look like this, those shits are weapons. Like the pen relays, baton that I have from when I ran there, that is. Is a baseball bat. Like, they're very thick. Yeah, you can really, really hurt someone with that. So, yeah, that's. That's implant.

[Rory]

So she's not. Has she. Has she been brought up on charges yet?

[Mal]

Yeah, hasn't been, like, convicted or anything, but assault and battery is what they're going to charge her for. But, yeah, you can't just take a baton to someone's head. I don't.

[Damaris]

Well, what she said was that her arm got tangled up in the girls, and when trying to like separate it. She kind of lost control of her body. While I do know that when you're running your fastest, you do kind of lose control, you, it's very easy. I'm not saying she did it on purpose or not.

[Rory]

Girl absolutely meant to hit that girl with that baton. That's not natural. That's a wind up and a swing through.

[Mal]

I've been in every scenario of a relay that you could think of, of championship meets where you're on the line with way triple the amount of lanes that are there where people throwing elbows, everything. I've never seen one person in any scenario I've been tangled up. Everything where you would reach back and hit somebody in the head like that, it doesn't happen.

[Rory]

And you could tell the way she's running with it after. Like she's holding her arm but now all of a sudden your arm don't want to move forward because she held it after she hit it. She held it like this the rest of the way, like so she wasn't swinging it after that. So she, she understood what she did. She know what she did. She just had a, a moment and didn't, you know, lost sight of exactly where she was at and just her emotions got the best of her. It happens.

[Mal]

She probably intentionally, but didn't intentionally. Like I don't think she sought out in the middle of the race to do that.

[Rory]

But like, no, at that moment I've.

[Mal]

Thrown elbows and that just because you get caught up with someone, it's like, get the off me. I didn't set out to do that. But yeah, I think she got tangled up and was like, off me. And yeah, which you can't do.

[Rory]

It might have got tangled up, but she definitely meant to hit her with that baton.

[Mal]

Yeah. Do we have voicemails? You've got mail.

[Rory]

Hello, everyone.

[Mal]

Long time listener, first time caller. I'm calling in to see if this situation ever happened to anyone.

[Rory]

I met a girl on a dating app and then when I went to go pick her up, she gave me this weird location. It was like a back alley. When I was waiting for her, I.

[Mal]

Was looking down on my phone and then she kind of just magically appeared.

[Rory]

By my front door.

[Mal]

We go to a restaurant in downtown la. The day was good.

[Rory]

When we're on the way back to.

[Mal]

Her location, I was wondering like where she come from. And I was like, oh, were you.

[Rory]

In like the apartments right there?

[Mal]

She was like, nah.

[Rory]

Were you in the condos across the street? She was like, nah. I was like, do you have roommates. And she was like, nah. Which is kind of. Kind of weird. When she was saying all that, then she was like, oh, I live in my van. The weird thing about it is she had a. She has, like, a dog too.

[Mal]

A big poodle she lived with in said van.

[Rory]

I was just wondering if that was.

[Mal]

That happened to anyone else. Sorry, that was not. That was not the ending I expected down by the river.

[Rory]

Sir, one thing I could promise you is that nobody can say that that happened. How you gonna call here and ask, has that happened to anybody? No, he didn't ask. He didn't ask. Did he date her again? Should he help her out? He said, has that happened to anybody?

[Mal]

No, man, I respected her circumstances. And yeah, like, he didn't ask.

[Rory]

Yo, how did. Should I ask how she ended up. Up sleeping in her van, like, while she chose that. No, that has never happened to anybody that I know.

[Mal]

Yo, and I'm not judging anyone that's asleep in their car. But if you also are in a relationship and cheating while you live in a car with your significant other, what the.

[Damaris]

Where you got?

[Mal]

I thought she said also lives with her man in the van.

[Rory]

Said a dog poodle.

[Mal]

Oh, I. I'm sorry. I thought I heard. With a man in the van.

[Damaris]

No.

[Rory]

Okay, you thought that.

[Mal]

Yeah, I thought that she dropped off.

[Rory]

To a car, like, her man was in there sleep, like, when the dog.

[Damaris]

In his sleep is crazy.

[Rory]

What you talking about?

[Damaris]

He was in the back seat.

[Mal]

No, I really thought I heard that she had a man and they lived in that van together with the dog. That's what I thought I heard.

[Rory]

I know a dude that lives in his van outside of a building. But, like, I think his family lives in the building. Okay, because every day he goes in the building, like, with the family, like, but he sleeps in his truck.

[Mal]

He just hates his family.

[Damaris]

Well, there's probably not enough beds. But the best part the matter is.

[Rory]

I could promise you, if it's not enough beds, my car is not the option. If this is my family, we gonna find a way to make this shit happen in here.

[Mal]

Back to animal cruelty. So she locked the dog in the car during the date. You can't just leave.

[Damaris]

I think she was lying. I don't think she wanted you to know where she lived.

[Mal]

That's fine. On the first date, that's fine.

[Rory]

But saying you live in a van. Come on.

[Mal]

And, like, not sarcastically, like, dead ass.

[Rory]

Yeah, like, he believes she lives in a van.

[Damaris]

Like, well, maybe it's a camper, not a Van. Maybe it's like a camper.

[Rory]

Either way, you can't leave your dog in there by itself.

[Damaris]

I feel like you can leave a dog in a camper by itself. All you gotta do is have aeration in the camper, and I feel like you have to have that anyway.

[Mal]

No, I just feel like circumstance and the dog are more important than a date. That's just where I'm at with it.

[Rory]

My sister left her dog in the car for 20 minutes. We went inside the store to order something, came back, and she had a note on her window saying, hey, you shouldn't do this.

[Mal]

I left her it.

[Rory]

The window was cracked. It wasn't hot outside. It was like, fall, so it was like, probably 50 degrees outside. Window cracked. Like, we was in the store for 20 minutes, come back, it's a note on the. On the car. Like, you're not leaving no dog in no camper for no date. That's not happening.

[Damaris]

But see, a. When I think a camper. A camper is like a house. No, it's like a mini house.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

There. It's. The air is fine for you to leave the. You can't take the dog with you everywhere. So if you live in a camper, like, if your dad went and got a dog dog, and he has a camper, like, the dog.

[Rory]

Everywhere. She's taking a house everywhere.

[Damaris]

Sorry.

[Rory]

The dog is like, that's a carry on. That ain't nothing that's light.

[Mal]

Yeah, fries are bad and everything. I guess that's not as bad. But we. He did say van. You guys are giving this woman a lot of credit by saying a camper.

[Rory]

He's dating school.

[Mal]

It would have said camper. No, she probably lives in a minivan. You can't leave a dog in a minivan to go on a date. That's insane.

[Rory]

You can't leave it. Like, you can't apparently can't leave a dog for 20 minutes to go to school.

[Mal]

Not.

[Rory]

That's crazy.

[Damaris]

But the big. The big minivans that people usually live in, like, the old hippie Scooby Doo minivans. I feel like if the dog has a bed in there and it has the proper airflow, if you're living in there and it has the. Like, you're not suffocating. I feel like as long as it's.

[Rory]

Not hot outside, your dog will be fine.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Your dog will be fine.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

All right, we're avoiding the real question here. After you get that information. You said the date went well. That was cool. Do you ask for the second date. Oh, yeah, if that.

[Rory]

This is a layup. This is a layer you don't want.

[Damaris]

Live in the car.

[Rory]

That might be some of the best you ever had in your life.

[Mal]

Yeah, no wax.

[Rory]

Yeah, in the car.

[Mal]

Car sex is trash though. So after the second date, do you say, do you want to go back to your place or mine?

[Damaris]

She gonna move in. She gonna park that tied up.

[Rory]

That's why the sex is crazy. You ever had a chick try to the keys out of you? That's sex is crazy. If she ain't got nowhere to live, she for like a spot.

[Mal]

Yeah, she gonna put some work in.

[Rory]

Oh my God. Well, did you give her the keys to my. Yeah, she had keys to my spot. Fucking right.

[Mal]

Took the parking spot from my apartment as well. With her van.

[Rory]

Yeah, you could park up all that. What? What? The way she suck it. You crazy, man. They nothing like a homeless suck when they ain't got no home.

[Mal]

I agree.

[Rory]

You know. You know.

[Mal]

Oh, I mean, you know, best I ever did was when I didn't have a.

[Rory]

Either homeless or like a roommates. If it's a girl that got a roommate and she want to move out and you got a nice little condo and you single. Oh, she about to rock your world.

[Mal]

Or she doesn't have to go back to her parents house that night.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's on. I ain't never had sleep in the car, though.

[Damaris]

That's a little.

[Mal]

It's never too late.

[Rory]

It's never too late. Yeah, it's never too late.

[Mal]

Especially in la. We can just go downtown and where.

[Damaris]

Did you wash up? And this. And we're not homelessness shaming. I don't want people to think we're shaming being homeless. We're not homelessness shaming. Are y. Y'all. So y'all are homeless?

[Rory]

No. No.

[Mal]

I was the first person to say.

[Rory]

I would never. Damas. I would never.

[Damaris]

Do nobody agree with me.

[Mal]

To answer your question, I. I've known people that slept in their cars, they had gym memberships, or they snuck into a gym and that's where they.

[Damaris]

Oh, okay.

[Mal]

That's where they cleaned up.

[Damaris]

I don't. I don't know about being. I don't. That's why I said maybe it was a camper, because I feel like if you're down that bad where you're like homeless, I don't think you're thinking about dating. So that's why I automatically.

[Mal]

That's the sickest part of this entire thing.

[Rory]

Like, she was thinking about dating. She was thinking about dinner.

[Mal]

Like, how did she get ready?

[Damaris]

I got to go.

[Mal]

Did she use a rear view, like, to put her makeup on?

[Rory]

She just wanted dinner that night. I think he was like, y'all gotta go eat.

[Mal]

Like, the date went well because it was based off starvation.

[Rory]

Exactly.

[Damaris]

Like, that's not funny. That's actually really sad. Maybe her van was parked on skid row.

[Mal]

I mean, downtown.

[Rory]

I think he would have mentioned that.

[Damaris]

Well, maybe he didn't.

[Mal]

Where do you think he met her? Like, the fact he left that part.

[Damaris]

Out is a little something he said online.

[Mal]

Yeah, but where? Online is what I'm saying.

[Damaris]

No, like, it was a dating app. He said he met her off a dating app.

[Mal]

That's even sicker if it was some IG shit. Cool. Whatever. If you are still in a dating app and you live in your van, you got. That's not shaming homeless. I'm just shaming you as a human being. Being. Well, you. You have other priorities. The way women shame men. Like, yo, if you don't have money, you shouldn't date. Like, I get. I get that perspective, cuz.

[Rory]

If the rose was versed and she was dropping him off at his car to sleep in.

[Mal]

Why are you on Tinder, sir?

[Rory]

Yeah, she would have been asking, but.

[Damaris]

Like, you guys said, she probably needed a meal, so. If I'm a pretty girl, I need a meal. Go on Tinder. Somebody gonna buy it for me. If you line a date up for every week, that's dinner.

[Mal]

No, it's a good strategy. I'm not mad at it.

[Damaris]

Just don't look at me like that. I'm not doing it, but, you know.

[Rory]

No, I was gonna say something, but I don't want the Internet to kill me. Not this week. I'll wait till next week for them to kill me.

[Mal]

Just have Peach say it, and then we'll cut the clip and post it.

[Rory]

I just feel like pretty girls ain't gonna ever have to sleep in their car.

[Damaris]

You. That's not. That's not true.

[Rory]

Not have to. They could. They might choose to. That's a choice. But if a pretty girl. It's a nigga somewhere. That'd be like, shorty. You could sleep in the basement, the guest room, like somebody.

[Damaris]

A lot of girls don't always know how pretty they are. A lot of girls have been through a lot of trauma and weren't. Are not. Have not been bought up in the. I'm a baddie, so I should be treated like a baddie, and I should treat myself like A baddie. Some girls are just naturally pretty and had a really hard life, and their looks are the last thing that they're worried about. They're not even aware that they're pretty. Their mother never told them they were pretty. They didn't have a father around. Like, there's plenty of pretty girls who are upon hard times.

[Rory]

No, no, hard times is one thing. Sleeping in your car is another thing. You can be on hard times and not be sleeping in your car.

[Damaris]

Well, if you were a pretty girl and you didn't want to sleep in your car and you had no family and no friends, what would you do?

[Rory]

And I didn't.

[Mal]

Harry Potter.

[Rory]

I didn't want to. What's up with you, man?

[Mal]

What?

[Rory]

What's up.

[Mal]

What, you don't know the story?

[Rory]

Yes, but I'm just asking. What's your problem?

[Mal]

She took a situation.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Made it a better one.

[Rory]

I get it. I just think that if you're a pretty girl.

[Mal]

Superhead slept in her car again.

[Rory]

I think it was a choice.

[Mal]

I think it's a choice. I watched the podcast with Neil Brennan and he asked that, like, how did you look? She's like, the best I ever looked. And Superhead was fine. Like, she was just sleeping in her car. Her priorities were a little different. But yeah, she's like, I'd go to parties and I just go sleep in my car with her son too.

[Rory]

And I.

[Mal]

And I would say kind of to what you're saying, like, why didn't you. You at that party? You're. You're beautiful. Just as, I guess a safety reason.

[Damaris]

I think y'all think being a woman works so much differently than it actually does.

[Mal]

Probably. Yeah.

[Rory]

I've never been a woman, so I can't.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't just.

[Mal]

I'm not encouraging women to just go sleep at Strings.

[Damaris]

I was gonna say, you don't just go to the party and be like, hey, guys, homeless. Who can I go home?

[Mal]

That would work on Tick Tock?

[Damaris]

It just doesn't work. Like, it doesn't work.

[Mal]

Like, that's a Tick Tock challenge right there.

[Damaris]

Like, how do you enter?

[Rory]

But I just. I also just feel like if you homeless and sleeping in your car, you shouldn't be going to the club. That's just me.

[Damaris]

Oh, I agree.

[Mal]

Unless you're searching for somewhere to stay. That.

[Rory]

Yeah, like, that's just me. I just think that you shouldn't be at the club and you gotta go sleep in the Accord, but kind of.

[Mal]

To Damaris's Point back to the super red thing. She was escaping a terrible situation, I think in like, Arizona or something. So drove to California.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And was getting on her feet and sleeping in her car at the time and. Yeah. Saying she looked beautiful.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So, Yeah, I guess it just takes.

[Damaris]

I think she was in an abusive relationship, if I'm not mistaken.

[Mal]

Well, no, she ended up being a stripper underage in Arizona. She got away from her abusive mother in Florida, got to Arizona, was an underage stripper with her boyfriend at the time's mom, who was a stripper there, then got out of that, got to California, and then met the God. Iced tea. And it was up from there. Ice tea. Saved everything.

[Rory]

Y'all don't be feeling like some of that be the. Their fault, though.

[Mal]

Which part?

[Rory]

Like, at some point, you don't start asking the questions, like, where are their friends? Like, you know, I mean, like, just basically, yo, you don't have a friend that just would let you crash on a couch or.

[Mal]

I mean, a lot of people in horrible situations are in an environment of other horrible situations, and their friends are in the same situation situations, too. That's actually why they're friends with them, because they're all in shitty areas. And because her story in that pod was crazy. Like, she definitely went through a lot in Florida. Like, her mother was a piece of.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I see why she ran away when I was younger. Yeah.

[Rory]

No, I could get people coming from, you know, families that are fucked up. But I just been feeling like, you know, when you said, like, I had to sleep in my car for, like, six months and I had to do this. And somewhere in the story, I'm like, yo, you didn't have, like, a friend or somebody that you could call like, and just be like, yo, listen, I'm fucked up right now. Like. Like, I just don't. I mean, it's tough to understand because I gratefully, I've never had to experience that. But I just be like, somewhere along the line, we feel like some people don't give us the whole story, like, yo, but you must, like, what type of person are you for real, like, to have no friends that will let you live with them while you get on your feet. Like, not even one friend.

[Mal]

I know you don't like to hear the trauma therapy part of that, but a lot of people from abusive households and situations feel like they're not enough or a burden on other people. So even if they have friends or family, they're not about to ask them for something, something, because they already Feel like my own mother, father, whatever, did not want me. So what the. I'm not going to ask somebody to take me in, sleep in my car.

[Damaris]

Even people who grew up healthy.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah. A choice. But even. Even. But to them, it doesn't seem like a choice. Like, it is a choice. Everything is a choice. But to them, it might not seem like a choice. I don't know how I would feel about asking one of my friends to stay at their house if I literally had nowhere to go, though. I might bite that bullet and be homeless, too.

[Rory]

Like, no, you get the damar. Shut up.

[Damaris]

No, I'm not. I'm being honest.

[Rory]

Damaris, you would not bite the bullet and be homeless. If it came down to either ask one of my friends if I could crash at her house for a couple months or sleep in my car. I'm. You're not biting that bullet. You're not sleeping in no car, Damaris. I'm not doing that.

[Damaris]

What I'm telling you, if you know.

[Rory]

You got options, like multiple friends with.

[Damaris]

Space, and it's not always an op. That's what I'm saying.

[Rory]

If you have that option.

[Damaris]

But a. But even if you do, your ego.

[Rory]

Is not gonna say, I'm not asking. I'm not sleeping.

[Damaris]

I don't have that option. A lot of people are not comfortable asking for help, Mom. I'm just telling you.

[Rory]

I understand that. Help with like, yo, I'm fucked up this month. Help me pay my rent. I'm talking about you have nowhere. It's your car and that's it.

[Damaris]

A lot of people will choose their car. It happens all the time.

[Rory]

That is crazy. I. I'm. I'm walking up to my homie door, clothes in hand. Nigga, I'm not sleeping in no fucking car.

[Mal]

I know where the key's at.

[Rory]

Yeah, my homie got the crib cable all kind of is warming it.

[Damaris]

Get the people are embarrassed.

[Rory]

My pride ain't that. Nah, you are you crazy as people are. Nah. Hell nah. I'm knocking. Right on, homie door man, watch out. Move over. And I'm using your products. It's this dove.

[Mal]

Well, I mean, I've never heard of the Tinder strategy, so this is a new one. Shout out to. To shorty.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Good way to get a meal.

[Rory]

I mean, I don't even know if this gentleman asked for. He just asked us if we've. That's ever happened to us.

[Damaris]

That's never happened.

[Rory]

No, it's. It's. It's never happened to us. So I mean, if we had, we.

[Damaris]

Would talk about it on this podcast you listen to.

[Rory]

But, you know, you sound like you had a great time.

[Mal]

Great happen to y'all. Y'all don't know. Well, not me, now that I'm thinking. It's. I've probably went on a date or messed with a chick that didn't have a home.

[Rory]

It was like, no, no, no, no.

[Mal]

Either sleeping in a car or couch surfing.

[Rory]

That's different. Are we talking about in a car?

[Mal]

Maybe.

[Rory]

I've never dated a girl that was living in her car.

[Damaris]

I've never dated a man that was living in his car because he had to come pick me up. And I didn't see, like, his belongings in the car.

[Rory]

We not the trunk. She ain't look in the trunk. Like, she ain't see this.

[Mal]

That trunk was a mess. Sleeping bag, canteen.

[Rory]

Stop. Why you. What you say? You Rambo? What is he doing? Like, canteen. Just get a bottle of water. Just get a bottle of water. A canteen.

[Mal]

You got a Doing a gym membership thing? That's the only $15 you want to do. They. He can fill his canteen up.

[Rory]

Yo, having the canteen in the car is crazy. Imagine I get your car roll, you got a canteen. I be like, yo, where you going?

[Mal]

Stay hydrated. Take a.

[Rory]

A canteen.

[Mal]

A lot of rest stops.

[Rory]

Oh, my God.

[Mal]

But I. I guarantee y'all have some homeless people and you don't know it. I think that's more common than we.

[Rory]

Homeless or living in your car. Homeless is like, what's better? No, homeless is. I'm.

[Mal]

I'll take the car.

[Rory]

No, homeless is. I'm staying with somebody right now. I'm living with my. My cousin, friend, whatever. In the car, homeless.

[Mal]

Like, how many girls do you think you slept with that have had to sleep in the park in their lifetime?

[Damaris]

That's Rory's wayward dick ass.

[Rory]

You just gotta let him cry, right, dog? Yo, who you think I'm dating?

[Mal]

You were a teenager at one point. You don't always know every girl you deal with. Situation.

[Rory]

I've never dated a girl that was sleeping in the park. Rory.

[Damaris]

Rory has, and he just. He don't want to share.

[Rory]

That's the ones he looked for. He walked the park later. He like, yo, so what's up?

[Mal]

You come here often, and instead of helping, be like, hey, come in the house. I'll just sleep next to them. We together.

[Rory]

Yeah. Rory trying to make it Percy. Yo, you've dated a girl.

[Mal]

I've never dated a girl. I've dated girls. Well, not dated.

[Rory]

Rory, you've never dated a girl that lived in a park?

[Mal]

Not lived.

[Rory]

You slept with a girl that lived in an abandoned house?

[Mal]

Not lived. I'm sure I've. With one that has slept in an abandoned house.

[Rory]

Yo, what is wrong with you?

[Mal]

I don't like, how did you.

[Rory]

Where would you.

[Mal]

I think every kid has like a two parent household in like some.

[Rory]

What is he abandoned house. I'm talking about that building.

[Mal]

Certain. I'm not saying she lived in the park, but I'm sure there was nights when she slept in a park before. That's not that crazy.

[Rory]

Why would she be?

[Mal]

You have friends that have slept in a park before. So, like, how is it with them?

[Rory]

Like, what are you talking about?

[Mal]

But they had sex with somebody while.

[Rory]

They were living in a. Sleeping in a park.

[Mal]

Oh, I'm not saying it was happening currently. I don't know.

[Damaris]

But they had. Did it before.

[Mal]

They did it before is what I'm saying.

[Rory]

Oh, okay. I think I thought he talking about, like, they just left.

[Mal]

Say, yo, get out of my house and go back to the park.

[Rory]

That's why I'm looking at him like, what are you saying?

[Mal]

Okay, all right, now. All right. We had a miscommunication. I was so shocked that you were shocked at what I was saying. No, I've never, like, had a chick in my house and I knew she was living in a park and I said, go back to the park. So that's.

[Rory]

So that's where I'm. That's what I'm saying.

[Damaris]

Yeah. You'll be wild for that.

[Rory]

So you just let her go back to the swings. Like, what's up with you? Like, what type of man are you?

[Mal]

I've never done.

[Rory]

That's what I. Okay, so that's what. That's what I. Miscommunicated.

[Mal]

No, I'm just talking about, like, women that would have been in bad situations. Especially when I was younger, I knew.

[Rory]

A lot of girls. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mal]

And those were, you know, usually the girls that like.

[Rory]

All right, that's different. That's different that I'm sure had a.

[Mal]

Few nights in some weird places.

[Rory]

Okay, that's different. We don't know everybody's situation. But I thought you meant, like, you knew, like, she's leaving here and going back to the moment we was laying there.

[Mal]

She's like, all right, well, yeah, I.

[Rory]

Thought that's what she.

[Mal]

Do you have a spare blanket?

[Rory]

It's. It's cold out there tonight.

[Damaris]

Like, no, man, that's terrible.

[Mal]

Type of animal do you think you.

[Rory]

Give him a to go bag and just let her walk out like, yo, you crazy.

[Damaris]

Would your mom let a girl. Like, if you had a girlfriend and, like, she ended up, like, being homeless? Like, would your mother let her move in?

[Mal]

That's my mom.

[Rory]

Absolutely.

[Mal]

My mom let at least three or four friends of mine in high school live with us at various times.

[Rory]

Absolutely.

[Mal]

My mom, that.

[Rory]

My mom was that type mom. Like, she. She would have no problem.

[Mal]

My man Isamu, he lived with us. He definitely, like, passed the time limit my mom would allow us. He was there for almost four or five months.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

In the crib. Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah. My mom was.

[Mal]

And he was like. He was a big Asian, not a small Asian.

[Rory]

My mom didn't care. As long as we. Everything was clean, she didn't care.

[Damaris]

Peach, let's mark that, please.

[Mal]

Wait, wait, why? Oh, my God.

[Rory]

God, he was a big Asian. What does that mean?

[Damaris]

He said not as, like, a regular.

[Mal]

Like, small Asian to have somebody in your living room for that long. That's, like, not a small high school kid. Like, he was a big. He was a big dude.

[Damaris]

You could have just said. But you said a big Asian because you.

[Rory]

This had Yao Ming sleeping.

[Mal]

No, he wide Ying, not tall. Y. Oh.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. Yuna. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My mom's didn't care as long as we kept the place clean. My moms didn't give a. We just had to make sure everything was clean. That was it.

[Mal]

But no, my mom. My mom would take in anybody if they needed it. For sure.

[Rory]

Yeah, definitely.

[Mal]

Do we have another voicemail?

[Damaris]

My mom ain't want me there, much less nobody else.

[Rory]

Okay, I have a question for you beautiful, wonderful people. What is the wildest song that you guys would have sex to whether you've done dirty or not? And the reason why I'm asking this is. I was on the Hub last night, and I couldn't comprehend mentally what I was. He, like, I wasn't ready for what I heard when I clicked on the video. I was expecting, you know, just the standard rigmarole. And come to find out, when I click on a video, all I hear is Andre 3000 given a soliloquy on Life of the Party by Kanye West. Like, I just. It baffled me so that. That's the reason why I come to.

[Mal]

You with this question. First of all, you're sick for calling it the Hub. Like, that's a different level of porn cult. I assume he's talking about pornhub, right? Yes, I was on the Hub. That's Sick. I mean, clearly I fuck to the sounds of crickets in a park park. So who am I to judge? I don't know. I lost my virginity to a Lloyd Banks mixtape. I. I think I'm kind of out of this entire thing. There's not a. There's not a single song that would stop me from. If I wanted to.

[Rory]

I don't even.

[Damaris]

That's like porn. Like, that's like the background of poor music is like. Lloyd Banks. Like, when you watch, like, hood porn.

[Mal]

You be on the hub going like crazy.

[Damaris]

Like, I don't. I don't like porn with music. But like, when you click on, like, hood porn, it's always some like that not. Oh, my God, I'm sorry, Lloyd Banks. But like, like, that type of The.

[Mal]

Internet got us all shook. You didn't say anything wrong.

[Damaris]

No. Okay. Just making sure.

[Mal]

Oh, I haven't watched enough hood porn to like, that's not really a thing that when I click, it's going to be some mixtape rap happening.

[Damaris]

Or like the. The. Or the person who's in the porn is rapping. Like, not while he's having sex, but it's like his mixtape.

[Rory]

Oh, it's like, what porn are y'all watching?

[Damaris]

That. I've seen that before. It's like some. Some local music or like the. The dude from down the street like, gave him a mixtape and he like. You never heard local rap in porn before. I have.

[Mal]

Speaking of, didn't Lloyd Banks, Snoop Dogg, and like, who kid start their own porn company where they would do like. They weren't, but they were.

[Rory]

I could see that. It's a multi billion dollar business. Why not?

[Mal]

Yeah. I don't know if it ever came. I remember that being a thing, though, that they were like, starting a porn company where they would. Young ma did that for a while.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah, she was. She was doing that.

[Rory]

I can see people getting into that.

[Mal]

Yeah, I think that's a. That's a good rollout to just be rapping while people. People.

[Rory]

Now one dude had to, you know, he make the videos on the block with the microphone and all that. He was rapping and then he opened up the moving truck and his man was in there having sex with a girl. I just thought that his role, his.

[Mal]

License plate in the truck company and everything.

[Rory]

I just thought that rollout was crazy. I made me want to download his whole project. I'm like, this dude is a visionary.

[Mal]

He's a creative genius.

[Rory]

They just having sex right there in the moving truck while you in the middle of the street rapping. Okay. That's what's up.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I don't. I don't know. If I could think of the craziest one, too. The craziest one, I would think it would be, see Marvin Sapp Take Me to the King. But that's not what I had sex to. If I had to think of one to do it to, it would be that. But I already told you I had sex to I Get Money remix. So the you laughing at?

[Mal]

I mean, I don't know. Once you've, like, a Law and Order SVU background, like, is there a song that's gonna stop you?

[Rory]

There's nothing that's gonna stop me.

[Mal]

Every infomercial, Magic bullet.

[Rory]

Yeah. You know how many times I've had sex to American Ninja Warrior? Being on the tv, I'm like, oh, he's going to break the time. He's going to break the record.

[Mal]

You going against him?

[Rory]

Yeah. We both in the Gauntlet right now. Absolutely. Yeah.

[Mal]

I mean, every situation of, like, family in the other room talking, you can hear everything. Like, yeah, life of the party's not stopping me. No matter if you're like, great choice.

[Rory]

Not. Yeah, I don't care what's playing. Once it's time, it's time.

[Damaris]

Are y'all easily distracted? Like in that way, Way during sounds during sex? Yeah.

[Rory]

Only when you think you hear somebody putting keys on her door.

[Mal]

Yeah, it's. Yeah, that's the only sound.

[Rory]

That's the only sound that's going to be like. Everything stops. Like, yo, that's.

[Damaris]

Hold on.

[Rory]

You know, sometimes the apartments is too close to each other, so it's like, yo, your door or the other door? Yeah, that's it.

[Mal]

Yeah. But other than that, I mean, I'm locked in. I try to distract myself so I don't come too quick. But some, you know, sounds wise.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you do your abc. Do you count?

[Mal]

I've never done count.

[Damaris]

I don't especially.

[Mal]

I try to find, like, in the room to, like, lock in on Rory.

[Rory]

Be like, yeah, she need to paint this ceiling.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah. You need to really. You know what I'm saying? A nice white coat over there, and.

[Mal]

Then it makes for good cuddle conversation afterwards. Like, I'm observing, looking at the ceiling. Like, I was just trying not to know.

[Rory]

I know somebody that could do all of this.

[Mal]

Crown molding would be so easy. But a ceiling fan right here.

[Rory]

This should be an action wall, actually, I was thinking, like, you could steal.

[Mal]

A cable right from this side of the wall. That's where my mind be at.

[Rory]

Oh man.

[Mal]

But I mean that's only when I'm in a house park. Park wise, it's definitely just looking out for pedestrians.

[Rory]

And so marriage. You let hit with their socks on.

[Mal]

It's a weird thing to like observing.

[Damaris]

Are we on rugged? Because you ain't. I. I got a lot of ass. You can't hit with your socks on hardwood. You gonna fall, so.

[Rory]

Nah, you gotta have the. The socks with the little grippies on the bottom.

[Damaris]

Where the is he at? Like get air. Yeah, get air. No. Yeah, you gotta.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's why you still owe some the bouncy rooms. You take those with you when you leave. You need those at the crib.

[Mal]

It's funny J mentioned that cause I got myself a pair of those for catch air which is an indoor playground.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And that was the first thing I thought when I put them on for the first time and went through my own hardwood floor. I was like, oh, he's just like shoot.

[Rory]

Those on.

[Mal]

I was like, this is like when the porn stars wear Tim like these. This has some.

[Rory]

Yeah, it got some traction to. It got some traction. Yeah.

[Mal]

But that's sick. Like to me, if you don't have a kid that's like the girl that walks around with a bunch of condoms, you're like, yo, that's kind of nuts that you walk around with that many condoms. If a dude just pulls out the grippy socks, like out the gate, out his drawer, like, what do you be doing? I'm gonna think you just had those like ready next. You know what I'm saying?

[Rory]

Regular socks. Yeah, because.

[Damaris]

Well back in the day. Because that used to be a sign that you were mentally ill. Weird socks. No, the. No, the grippy socks. Oh my lord. Yo, we're.

[Rory]

Imagine if you got a socks on. Niggas who like yo, he's.

[Mal]

They ran out of helmets.

[Rory]

Just cause you got socks on.

[Mal]

Market.

[Rory]

Yo, you talking about the grippy socks? Yes, that was a sign of what? Mental. What illness?

[Damaris]

Mental illness. Like you had got three. What is it, 304 or what is it called when they check you into the555.50.

[Rory]

Wait, just cause I have grippy socks on.

[Damaris]

Because when you're in the mental institute.

[Mal]

But the apron didn't give it away.

[Damaris]

When you're in the mental institute, they give you grippy socks and you usually go home with them. Them. So before the get air places and stuff like that, where grippy socks became a thing. Because people go to those. No, if a man had grippy Socks just like. It's like, oh, you probably tried to kill yourself before. Like, that's what that.

[Rory]

No, I'm trying to kill his. That's what I'm trying to do. I ain't trying to kill myself. You got wood floors. I'm trying to kill that tonight.

[Mal]

Why are grippy socks not sold in, like, prisons? I'm wearing grippy socks in the shower. If that's the case, like, if there's a fight, I need grippy socks on at all times in prison.

[Damaris]

You're still gonna fall in the shower with grippy socks.

[Rory]

Rory, the last thing you need to be worrying about in prison is wearing grippy socks in the shower.

[Mal]

You don't think traction is important in prison?

[Rory]

Yeah, I think a lot of things.

[Mal]

I'm not getting caught sleeping. I got the grippy socks on me.

[Rory]

No, you could still.

[Mal]

What Cole said. Yeah, it's grippy.

[Rory]

Yeah. You can still get caught slipping with the grippy socks in prison. Absolutely.

[Mal]

But I won't fall as quick.

[Rory]

They're not worried about your feet.

[Damaris]

Yo, you good?

[Rory]

I'm just saying.

[Mal]

I'm talking about fights. Not that weird you talk about.

[Rory]

Why don't you think you'll be fighting in the shower for your man hood?

[Mal]

No, it just was the time that the fight popped off. First time we saw each other. It's butt, ass, butt, ass.

[Rory]

And I ain't got to fight nobody that bad.

[Mal]

He's barefoot.

[Rory]

I ain't got that much beef. I gotta fight you while you naked. We ain't got that.

[Mal]

And we're in prison. We have nothing but time.

[Rory]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mal]

Let's just find another.

[Rory]

I'll catch you outside that wreck, bro. I'm not fighting you in the shower.

[Mal]

Yeah. Why that isn't like, just a universal unwritten prison law to me, is insane. Yeah. Like, we have other places that we could do this.

[Damaris]

No, because that's the part it's easiest to catch somebody slipping, no pun intended. In the shower. Shower.

[Mal]

Till. Till you slip and fall on your own shank. That'd be my clumsy ass. Like, I would fall in the shower.

[Damaris]

And have my suicidal ass. Slip and fall on your own shank.

[Rory]

Oh, man.

[Mal]

Not with the grippy socks, though. Oh, speaking of sleeping, wouldn't have slipped on the cum if they had the grips on.

[Rory]

Speaking of sleeping in your cars, didn't the girl, dawn from En Vogue, she came out and said she's. Oh, yeah, yeah, she sleeps in her car. I saw that. And then there was people in the comments that I think obviously have Worked well before know her, and they were kind of speaking to, like, she's a bad person and she ruins relationships with everybody. Everybody that works with her has, you know, bad things to say about her. And I was just reading up on it because I was kind of confused. Like, in Vogue, like, they got multi platinum hit records and shit like that. And I know obviously, you know, record deals are not, you know, always lucrative for artists. And then I do believe back in the day, In Vogue had a interview where they said they only received, like, I think, 2 cents per album sold or something like that.

[Damaris]

Her ex husband offered a job in the hospitality industry for her.

[Rory]

She didn't want it.

[Damaris]

I don't know if she took it or not, but he said, like, when he heard her say that, she. He just offered it.

[Rory]

Oh, he just offered it.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Well, yeah, hopefully, you know, husband.

[Mal]

Ex husband.

[Rory]

It would have to be her ex husband, though.

[Damaris]

Her ex husband. Yeah.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Yeah, he's remarried. Married.

[Rory]

Well, hopefully, you know, she. She gets back on her feet and send her prayers and, you know, blessings because, you know, you see people like that, that you have obviously, you know, listen to and supported at one point, then they fall in hard times. And especially as a woman sleeping in your car. Traveling is a. Is a. Is a dangerous thing.

[Mal]

So that's where my pride's kicking in, though. I'm gonna continue to sleep in that car if my ex wife offers me a job.

[Damaris]

Yeah, y'all ain't watch soul food. I'm good.

[Mal]

Not taking that. Not taking that gig especially. And you remarried that. I'm sleeping in that car.

[Rory]

Pride. I like. Yeah, no, I like it. I'm on board with you. Y'all remember.

[Damaris]

Y'all remember a soulful when she. When Bird got her husband a job with her ex. How would y'all have handled that?

[Rory]

The same way he did.

[Mal]

That happened in you.

[Rory]

This. You ain't giving me no job for free. Free.

[Damaris]

The. Is this what. We just went to dinner. That's all.

[Rory]

We went to dinner.

[Damaris]

It's always dinner with the diamond bracelet on. She was tripping.

[Mal]

I thought Joe Scott was tripping. And why did I get married, too, with the new husband?

[Damaris]

Don't.

[Mal]

He has cancer. I don't give a. I don't give a.

[Damaris]

Flying.

[Mal]

Actually, he got money in health insurance. The you got to be here for.

[Damaris]

Yeah, she was tripping and.

[Mal]

And then got me the job. Yeah, I would have felt the same way as a man. Like, no, I'm sitting there my first day at cop school and shit, and like, yo, you came highly recommended. And then say your ex husband's name. Yeah, Chris Dorner, everybody.

[Rory]

Yeah, that soulful was different only because he thought he got the job on his own.

[Mal]

Yeah, so. So did what's his name? And why did I get married too?

[Damaris]

Troy.

[Mal]

Troy. Yeah, Troy thought the same thing whole time. Old chemo over there got it for him.

[Rory]

Yeah, see, women be playing a dangerous game.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I would never play that game.

[Mal]

She was tripping in that. And granted from the first movie, she was the. She turned into the abuser. The abuse turned the abuser on. That. That was nuts.

[Rory]

Yeah. Because if a woman, if a man did that to you, imagine this ex girl got you your job.

[Mal]

Imagine you find that out at your first. First day of work. And you leave your first day after finally feeling like a man. You. You got back on your feet. You were forced to move from Colorado to Atlanta because of your girl. You find that out. You go to confront dude at his house because you know where he live. He's always lingering around my motherfucking family. I know where you stay at. You knock on the door and your wife is in the apartment and her excuse is, it's not what it looks like. He has cancer. Tyler Perry didn't write the real ending to that movie.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was definitely some DV somewhere. There was definitely some dv.

[Mal]

The.

[Damaris]

I ain't even playing them games. I can't play those games.

[Rory]

That's a dangerous game to play.

[Mal]

Tomorrow, new music. We are recording this on a Thursday. I'm going to say allegedly, because we never know with PlayBoi. Cardi. I am. Music is dropping at midnight. When you're listening to this, it is out now. I've seen a thousand different featured lists, all different, so I'm not even going to say any that are here. I'm gonna give it a shot.

[Rory]

Cardi.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

No, you not, man.

[Mal]

I am. I'm desperately trying to understand why he's so popular. Because artists that I. I don't particularly care for, I get why they are popular. I understand it.

[Rory]

I'm with you on that.

[Mal]

This one I haven't quite figured out yet. And it's not in the hating way. I want to know what I'm missing because so many people like this.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm. I'm. I'm. I'mma get into the music. Well, try to get into it and see like what the. What the craze is about. But the album is coming out. We. We knew that they wasn't going to. They wasn't going to drop the ball on this and let the, let the pre orders go back to the customers. We knew that wasn't going to happen.

[Mal]

So I. Listen, I, I hope I'm wrong. I mean, I've sort of given Playboy Cardi a chance. Not really enough like xxxtion. I didn't give him a fair shot when he was alive. When he passed a bunch of people that I respect, music opinions sent me his music. I was like, oh, I, I was wrong as this kid is so, so talented.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So I don't know. I'm gonna really sit with this, this Cardi album and, and try to get it.

[Rory]

He's one of the two artists that I tried to get into and listen to and understand and I just, I'm not there. Him, Playboi, Carti and Rod Wave. I at least can't understand the Rod.

[Mal]

Wave just based off the writing and like a demographic that would be attached to that type of emo writing. I get that. I mean, it shocked me that he was doing like arenas. I was like, oh, damn. I had his fan base up. He's. He's way more popular than I thought.

[Rory]

That's what I'm saying. I had no idea.

[Mal]

Yes. I can see a lot of people being attached to that type of stuff, but I don't know.

[Rory]

We'll talk to you soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger.

[Mal]

Peace, new warrior now.