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Lord Jamar
And now just a rolling start.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
How long you have been. How long you guys been doing it so far on your own?
Chuck Nice
Four and a half?
Lord Jamar
Yeah, something like that.
Godfrey
Four and a half years?
Lord Jamar
20. 21.
Godfrey
It's been this long since you guys broke out?
Lord Jamar
Yeah.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
Wow. Damn. Time.
Lord Jamar
And I know you don't know much about this podcast, so I'll give you just a quick brief of what this show is dedicated to. The shape of the Earth.
Godfrey
Are you Lord Jamar?
Lord Jamar
This entire pod is not current events, not about music. We're strictly here to figure out what.
Godfrey
The shape of the controversial episode.
Lord Jamar
I came in here. They didn't get on the same path as me. That was the greatest podcast episode I've ever seen in my life.
Chuck Nice
Hold on. But before.
Godfrey
Before we get into that, you guys are paying attention.
Lord Jamar
Paying attention. I watched it three times. I subscribed to Professor Dave. I watch his YouTube to this day.
Godfrey
He's.
Chuck Nice
He's not lying. He's dead serious.
Lord Jamar
I came in here like, yo, have.
Godfrey
Y' all seen what's up with you and Jamal in the Flat Earthers? What's going on with the Flat Earthers? Don't make no sense. Who gives a about what the shape of the earth is? And this is supposed to be 5% peace to the gods in the earth.
Chuck Nice
This about some flat Earth. Right, right, right.
Godfrey
You know, when talk. When they breath go away. I don't give a. This don't matter. Does it affect you going side of their mouth?
Chuck Nice
The funn part about all this is this originally was a Zoom episode. We was gonna have Godfrey on Zoom. And I came in here, I'm like, yo, I think Godfrey lives in Manhattan. Why are we zooming?
Godfrey
And it was like you. And I said, yeah, man. He's like, yo, I'm right there. I'm like, yo. He was like, you didn't get to say where you at?
Chuck Nice
And now he's here in the studio. So. Thank you for coming by, guys.
Godfrey
No doubt. Appreciate y' all. I know you guys sort of.
Chuck Nice
Sort of?
Godfrey
Cause I was like, aren't you. You're like, don't say it.
Chuck Nice
Don't.
Godfrey
It's all right, though.
Lord Jamar
I do appreciate that you blindly accept podcast invitations, because when we got on Zoom, you're like, ain't you the guys.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
Coming over there.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, we appreciate that.
Godfrey
Yeah. Because I watch and listen regardless of what happens in us biz, you know, everyone's doing their thing. Things happen. It is what it is, man. I mean, look at. With the Flat Earth and shit. Yeah, I don't even. I hadn't even spoken to him in, man. Over. Over the shape of the earth. That's what's hilarious.
Chuck Nice
So you haven't spoke since then at all?
Godfrey
No, because I don't. I don't. I didn't do anything.
Chuck Nice
Right.
Godfrey
Well, here's the thing, okay. He was like talking about the shape of the earth. And I go, all right, hey, why don't you have. When we bring. Cause we were Gonna bring Neil DeGrasse Tyson on there, okay.
Lord Jamar
He said that he was gonna debate him.
Godfrey
Cause Chuck Nice, my man Chuck Nice is his co host on his show StarTalk. I've done StarTalk with him. I did also. I did Neil DeGrasse. Neil DeGrasse Tyson's show on Nat Geo. We shot at the planetarium. So I know. And I said, yeah, let's call Neil DeGrasse. Cause let's put a black man on there to talk to another. So. And Neil degrasse was too busy. So he's like, well, this guy Dave, the science communicator said, hey, man, I'd like to debate this dude. Go ahead.
Lord Jamar
Well, you're leaving out a part after you guys had that conversation.
Godfrey
Yeah.
Lord Jamar
Professor Dave did his reaction video with a glass of cognac in his hand, which I grabbed some as well to watch that reaction.
Godfrey
We're all drinking now.
Lord Jamar
I'm on board. Professor Dave is in the mix, yo.
Godfrey
So I was like, this is great. Yeah, it's science, man, right? It's a debate. Who gives a. Like, right? And I go, hey, I got a guy. Because of course, I didn't surprise him. We said, hey, would you like to. He goes, yeah, I'll come through. I said, well, cool. And so he's on there. And before, remember, before he even got on the screen, yo, that I was in a shot, I was like, oh, oh. So I just kept quiet. And I'm not trying to embarrass anybody. You want to battle? And he said, I'll even go against Neil DeGrasse Tyson. He's not a real astrophysicist. He's an actor. I was like, huh, dude? He was. If you guys, I'm a real nerd. So Carl Sagan was the original Cosmos. Carl Sagan, you know Carl Sagan is. No, well, Carl Sagan was the. Walt. Neil DeGrasse Tyson hosts Cosmos. But the original host of Cosmos was Carl Sagan. This white dude, dark hair, and I love Carl. I grew up on a Carl Sagan watching Cosmos because I was into astronomy and shit like that. That. And so he was Neil DeGrasse Tyson's mentor.
Chuck Nice
Okay.
Godfrey
And you know, Neil DeGrasse is from the Bronx.
Chuck Nice
Yes.
Godfrey
And he was. When he was studying science, you know, Neil degrasse is a. Was an all state wrestler. He was a free. Yeah. And he's also. Yeah. And when I got into science, I met, you know, Carl Sagan. He gave me like a blessing. Boom. Boom. So all in his. That's how his life has been. He's a real scientist. And so he goes, yeah, I'll debate anybody. And I said, cool, right? This will be awesome.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
And what's funny, he says, oh, I was just doing it for clicks. I go, who isn't doing shit for clicks?
Chuck Nice
Right?
Lord Jamar
That's how you live, how you titled that episode.
Godfrey
I need clicks. That's how you get money.
Chuck Nice
Right.
Godfrey
And so he got on there, and when he said what he said before the guy got on, I go, oh, boy. So I just sat there and Dave stood. Stood his ground.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
You know, and he went at him and.
Lord Jamar
And Dave is also a very. How do I put it? Arrogant. Yes, arrogant with stipulations. Because what he's saying is factual. But it can piss somebody off.
Godfrey
Just the way he's being snarky.
Lord Jamar
Yeah. Like.
Godfrey
Well, if you understand what a ball is. Idiot.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
It's gravity, dumbass.
Lord Jamar
He's going to piss somebody. Somebody from New Rochelle, he's going to piss off. The way he speaks.
Godfrey
Yeah. The way he's talking. Yeah, of course. But when you're right, you're right. That's my thing. And I'm like, you handle this. I just want to watch. I'm not trying to go back and forth.
Chuck Nice
Right.
Godfrey
You know, because I. I know science, but I'm not that deep in it like that, you know? But you really want to battle this flat earth shit, because for me, I understand why flat earthers have come into play. I understand because we're lied to so much, just in general, everything lies to us. Lies to us about food. They lie to us about everything. So I understand when people go, conspiracy theories. That's where conspiracy theories come from.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
Is there the presence of God? Is there such thing as a Jesus? You get it? Because lie a lot. So I understand the flat earth thing.
Chuck Nice
Right?
Godfrey
And I'm. And what's funny is there's some things about flat earth that make sense. You go, you know what? That kind of makes sense. I like people that even if they're wrong, they have some. That you go, well, wait, A minute.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
So that makes for good.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
You know, good conversation and so go ahead. What are you gonna say?
Lord Jamar
I'm a huge conspiracy theorist.
Godfrey
Okay.
Lord Jamar
They accused me of being a flat Earther for a long. And granted, I went and went through the same YouTube rabbit holes that I'm sure Lord Jamar did as well. I was like, nah, it's probably. But I still believe in a lot of other conspiracies.
Godfrey
There was some stuff that made sense. Yeah. You know, perspective wise. Okay. If the. If this is this. Why don't we see the curvature? Then I brought my buddy on. My buddy Calvin Stig. Stiggy. He's a pilot. Jamaican. My boy is Jamaican. Is all hell. And he studied geospace engineering and he was. He protected Obama. Obama. He was an Air Forceman. Like, he did the Tom Cruise that. He did the tricks and all. So he. He goes. He goes. He said, what? Blood clot. The Earth is round. He's like, I seen the Jamaican is saying that.
Chuck Nice
Yeah. You gotta believe it.
Godfrey
When a Jamaica go. I seen.
Chuck Nice
It was.
Godfrey
I was on 80,000 felt. When they go, bumble clap.
Chuck Nice
You gotta believe him.
Godfrey
He said, dude, he said, bumba clap.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, yeah.
Lord Jamar
Vibe said the same thing. He said, kill that person.
Godfrey
I was on the ear. I swore up. I said. He said, it's real. So it's real. So there is curvature. It is what it is. It's like. Because I don't know. Because I don't fly. I don't. You know, so what if. What if those pictures that we have seen of the Earth are fake? What if they are? Because we don't. We're not satellites. We have. I haven't. I'm not Superman. Where I can fly and go, ah, it is round. What if they're lying to us because we're here on the planet? We don't know what the they're doing up there.
Chuck Nice
Right.
Godfrey
They could be. I'm saying they could be lying. Yeah. With the moon landing. I. You know, the moon landing, I'm still.
Lord Jamar
On the side of them.
Godfrey
I'm doubting that, you know, especially after those space cunts went up there.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
I'm sorry. The Cosmic Concerts.
Lord Jamar
Yeah. Call them by the proper names. The Cosmic Hunts.
Godfrey
The Cosmic Cunts. Went up.
Lord Jamar
Did they go up? Didn't go to space.
Godfrey
There was some air and there. First of all, where's your helmet?
Chuck Nice
At minimum, them like.
Godfrey
First of all, where's your pressure suit? They even have at least motorcycle helmets.
Lord Jamar
I saw ar.
Godfrey
They could go at this on opening. Wow. I'm just saying. I don't mean to insult him, but I was just like. And you. And then you have Katy Perry describing what the happened. Why would you pick her? She's like, it was just love. Love and connection and just love. And we were just there and connect. What are you talking about? We're talking science. Like hey, I felt the gravitational pull. And then Bezos's wife with that. You would think that she had all that face done that the gravity would have. Her whole. Would have been like, oh my God. Yeah. My whole operation her would have been like. You see what it looked like a. Yeah. It was no. There was no effect on that.
Chuck Nice
Yeah. Yeah.
Godfrey
So I was like we're. And they were like this. Woohoo. We're in. Beth.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
If you're in space, if you're on a high speed train, you're like this. Oh right. If you're. Oh, you know, I do that getting off the fdr. You're like oh, God damn. But you're in space and you're just going.
Lord Jamar
Look at my daisy.
Godfrey
Oh my God. A daisy means kanacha. And then they came out like, yeah. If you come from space, you're like, yeah.
Chuck Nice
That was like.
Godfrey
You know.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
And then Bezos tried to open a door. They already opened it up. He was like close.
Chuck Nice
It.
Godfrey
Was like, yeah, well we saw it.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Lord Jamar
No X to make sure his wife is okay.
Godfrey
Yes. And you know what? And then it's like you can't weak. Our bodies can't handle those kind of forces. You know when you're in an airplane 35000ft and your pressure then come on. There's pilots that go higher than that.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
The you talk. These pilots are up there with helmets on and oxygen and you. Yeah. And you're higher than they are. But you're like, yeah. Spe. The final frontier. Yeah.
Evan Lionel
These are the people.
Godfrey
Like Spock, we have to go in turbo. Spock, he's like this. Captain, I don't think we can make that. He's like, damn it.
Lord Jamar
Even on tv this makes no sense. Even Star Trek look like real face.
Godfrey
Like, yeah, I don't think we can make it. I think that force will suck us in. Spock, we have to get there. Spock spot. Right? And these like yeah, yeah, we were there. It was love. It was connection.
Chuck Nice
Like it was brunch.
Godfrey
It's not time for feminism in that high altitude. The is wrong with you?
Lord Jamar
Is there any gender in space.
Godfrey
Connection?
Lord Jamar
And what the not that she found about love up there. It was the fact that she decided two days later that she needed to learn how to walk again.
Godfrey
Again. Did you see that concert she was doing? That was trash. Her concert was garbage. Straight. That was so bad. She was. She was. I said maybe she did go rickets.
Lord Jamar
They left her up there.
Godfrey
Gravitational forces done her knees up.
Chuck Nice
Oh my.
Godfrey
That's when she was in that. Dressed as a. That was at least she should have been dressed in that to go to space. Yeah, but there are all these sexy suits and then there's Gayle King, right? And there's Oprah's body double. And then there's. I call her Oprah stunt double. Because if Oprah's like in a car scene and she rolls out, it's Gail.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, absolutely.
Godfrey
And there's two scientists. Were real scientists. The girl, that's the Vietnamese girl who was actually, you know, she was like sexually assaulted when she was a science. Yeah, she's gone through a lot. She's actually a real. The astrophysicist or whatever. And the black girl, it's the. The in the middle, there's the Vietnamese. No, the Vietnamese chick in the front. That's the lowest and the black. They're two real astral site. So I think they brought them in to just keep the hoax going. But it was some bull. They went straight to Katy Perry first. And I said, oh, this is they up.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Godfrey
She's like. It was just love and connection. We're just that she was all love.
Lord Jamar
Gail, like kind of had a little sassy attitude. Like when she was like this.
Godfrey
Like, she's like, have you been? Then you tell me. I'm sorry.
Lord Jamar
We ask you what happened up there.
Godfrey
Your friend is Jeff Bezos. Space cost a million dollars a ticket. I just did. I was just on kayak to get my ticket to go to North Carolina. You talking about. I was using my flyer miles and negotiate it. Just trying to go a two hour flight. And you talking about, have you been to space? That's what. I knew it was bullshit. I'm sorry. Have you been to space? So when you get to space, let me know. Have you been to space? No, we haven't. You're the only ones that have obviously been there. Because that's why you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Chuck Nice
Right, right.
Lord Jamar
Flint doesn't have clean water. And you went to space for funsies.
Chuck Nice
I totally forgot about that.
Lord Jamar
That Flint didn't have clean water.
Chuck Nice
No, I went to Flint. I'm talking about this space voyage that Gail King and I'M going to remember the interview.
Godfrey
She goes, people don't believe it. Have you been to space? If I have a friend named Jeff, a friend at Jeff Bezos. I' right, and he'll pay for my day. But you didn't go to space. Have you been to space? You obviously haven't either, because you're not explaining anything to us. You could have been like, well, the gravitational forces, it was really amazing. We saw. Then we saw cosmic dust and. Yeah, just some space talk. Like you could have at least like, we. I think we saw like Haley's comet come by, right? And we saw there's an asteroid. We were able to see, you know, the moon, the craters and I mean, I know some science. Like, tell us something, right? Even like this. Have you been to space? Well, if you don't know space, shut your ass up. And you know how they use the word space now, just in general, I just love this space that we're in.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, yeah.
Godfrey
You know, that's kid.
Chuck Nice
That's what that was.
Godfrey
We were in a space in space. It was sort of a safe space in space, which was sort of space like. And it's spacecraft. So everything's about.
Chuck Nice
Everything's about space. Respect our space.
Godfrey
Spacey that I'm spacey from the space. And in this space, I was able to really be in a safe place for space. And this is a good working space for me. And, you know, and people who don't know about this space know nothing about space.
Chuck Nice
So where are you? On the side of the flat Earth?
Lord Jamar
I still want to take Lord Jamar to Antarctica.
Godfrey
Do you remember when they did the experiment recently? $35,000 a piece for these flat Earthers to go to. Because they say that Antarctica, there's an end at Antarctica. There's some other big land. Okay, there's a wall.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Lord Jamar
So this dude's like on the other side, Right.
Godfrey
I'm curious.
Lord Jamar
There's a Rothchild island right there. Go to Google Maps. Is there a Rothchild island in Antarctica?
Godfrey
Yeah, I believe that, though.
Lord Jamar
No, it's a fact.
Godfrey
Snow castle.
Lord Jamar
I'm. No, listen, I'm saying that the Earth is round. I'm also saying that the Rothschilds own an island in Antarctica.
Godfrey
And I believe that along with that, it could be the, the Rothschilds, the Rockefeller. Yeah, I believe all that now. But as far as, like, he goes, okay, I'm gonna take you guys to Antarctica, fly you all out. This guy scientist paid 35,000 a piece. Yeah, I got the money. And then we're gonna sit There and watch the sun. If the sun stays in the air, stays out for 24 hours, it. The earth's round. They were like, okay, bet. And they camped out. That sun stayed there. And they were like, that's cgi. That's AI Right?
Lord Jamar
They. All right. So they were there. They took like, Flat Earther influencers. Like, they took the Kendall Jenner of Flat Earth down there, right? And then when they got there, there was like, yo, now the 24 hour sun exists. Like, we.
Godfrey
Yeah, yeah, it's. It's real.
Lord Jamar
Then they exiled them like some Scientology. Like, they kicked them out of the flat Earther community.
Godfrey
Yeah, they're out.
Lord Jamar
Because they were like, guys, I was there. I promise you that was not.
Godfrey
They were. And if. And they're like, it's round. Earth is round. It's. It's. Right.
Chuck Nice
So now they kicked out of the fraternity.
Godfrey
Yes, kicked out. You're out of here. You think it's fucking road. You think it's a sphere. You're out of here.
Lord Jamar
And the Internet is just the worst place. Because when I was.
Godfrey
How they make their money, though, I.
Lord Jamar
Wasn'T even looking at the flat earth shit. When I started on that rabbit hole, they were telling me like, yo, there's no flights from Argentina to Australia. And I was like, damn, why is that the case? Then I went on Priceline. I'm like, no, you could fly misinformation as a. And if you don't double check, it.
Godfrey
Doesn'T go to Trinidad. I just found that out yesterday. They don't.
Lord Jamar
So it's got to be a triangle. If you look at the Trinidad go there.
Godfrey
Jet blue does, though.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, you can get there.
Godfrey
They show the lines. JetBlue has more lies. Now we're going to Trinidad.
Lord Jamar
At one flat earther rabbit hole, I went down. They showed footage of everyone taking off from Australia. And they said. Said they were forcing everyone to put the windows down so you couldn't see.
Godfrey
Yo, but these.
Lord Jamar
Yo, that's a good idea. Where are we at right now?
Godfrey
I gotta give credit to flat Earthers that. Keep going, they'll go like this. But no. And how come the wing was tilted?
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
Guess what that means. That's the flat earth. The gravity. And then we were talking about. There was a thing about buoyancy. You saw that?
Lord Jamar
Yeah, of course.
Godfrey
Okay. How come when you dip a tennis ball in a ball of a ball in water, like a tennis ball, and you spin it, the water comes off? How come it doesn't. The water doesn't fly off the earth. He goes, hey, dummy. Because the Earth is a gigantic mass, a humongous mass, and, and gravity exists and there's a, you know, there's a force that keeps us down. You know, when you throw a ball up, it goes down.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
It's like, well, you know where down is, remember? He's like, do you know where down is? And in, in buoyancy in the equation, if you can even pop it up, the equation for buoyancy, there's a G for gravity on the other side of the. Of the equal sign, right? A G is in the. The is in the equation for buoyancy.
Chuck Nice
Right?
Godfrey
And again in the equation. Why do things float? There's gravity right in the equation.
Lord Jamar
Guys, I'm stupid, so it's not like I'm sitting here like I know everything.
Godfrey
No, me either.
Lord Jamar
But this makes more sense to me than someone just screaming, hey, a ball can't. What's their famous line? Can't hold water. Or whatever the they say, right? It's. And I'm like, no, when they said it, I was like, hm, That's a great point.
Godfrey
Easily disproven right here.
Chuck Nice
It's a great point.
Lord Jamar
I have a lot of love and respect for Lord Jamar. I don't want to make. I don't. I don't want to make it seem like clowning him. I was on his side in the beginning and I thought in the, like, yo, listen, you making up some great points. And then Professor Dave just was like, dog, all right, let me break this down for you.
Godfrey
And, and, and Neil DeGrasse t, you know, have you heard when him and Terence Howard wrote some stuff, some scientific theories, and Terence was like, I believe that, that the planet. There's no such thing as zero. Because if you see, I've done a lot of calculations, you know. He sounds light skin.
Chuck Nice
That's what he sounds light skinned.
Godfrey
I love Terence Howard. He. He sounds light skin, though. I sound like a dark skin. He sounds light skinned. See, nobody dark skinned sounds like that.
Lord Jamar
He hits S's.
Godfrey
Here's the thing, though. You have to understand the philosophy and astronomical calculations. I've done this for a long time. He sounds like skin. That's what I love about it. But he ain't no joke. He don't play that, though. That will smack out somebody. Real deal. He ain't no. He ain't no punk. That's one thing.
Lord Jamar
Whether he was playing a pimp, a rapper.
Godfrey
He amazing.
Lord Jamar
He wears the same thing and looks exactly the same in every role and doesn't Matter.
Godfrey
And I love him to be that guy.
Lord Jamar
President, United States.
Godfrey
That Batman thing where he meets Batman, like, he goes, what's up, Batman? He goes, it's Batman. Okay, that's what I said. I said. I said batman. That is his.
Lord Jamar
But, but when you say things with conviction like he does, right?
Godfrey
Because Neil DeGrasse actually looked at the paper he wrote and said, said I looked at it, but I just didn't have time to, you know. But there's some things that he said that didn't. That weren't right. But I give him credit for his effort.
Chuck Nice
Okay.
Godfrey
You know, there's this thing they call what's the theory? They call where you. You think you know enough. You think you know something, but you don't have enough information to really know and you don't know what you're talking about. There's a. There's a theory. Was it. Was it called stupid cognitive dissonance? It's. No, it's not cognitive dissonance. It's. It's.
Lord Jamar
It's a theory where you, you Narcissism.
Godfrey
You don't know as a go, right? Where you, where you have. You think you have a certain amount of information to make you think you know everything, but you don't have enough. Something like that.
Chuck Nice
The district attorney.
Godfrey
Puffy's lawyers. Is it. Okay, read that. Can you read that?
Chuck Nice
The phrase you don't know what you don't know highlights the limitations of human knowledge and the potential for gaps in understanding. It emphasizes that there are often things we are unaware we don't know, which can lead to misunderstandings or flawed assumptions.
Godfrey
Right. So it's that. And so Neil DeGrasse said that's what he has. He has that, you know, that's what he has. But I love his. But I. We're scientists.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Godfrey
We do. We've done experiments over and over, over and over. We. This is what we do. And I'm not knocking him, but what you're talking about is wrong.
Chuck Nice
Right.
Godfrey
Because I'm a scientist because I know about acting.
Chuck Nice
Right?
Godfrey
Like, yeah, Terrence is an amazing actor. That's like me telling you about acting. You don't know it like I do.
Chuck Nice
Right.
Godfrey
And so it, so that was really interesting that, you know, and, and it's. And, and my thing is science is there to be debated. What's wrong with that? There's nothing wrong. Even though they, they've. Since the days of Einstein and, and, and, and, And Bohr and all these scientists that have, you know, they have all these different types of. They have. They have their own theories, they have their own calculations and equations. Even back then, these are. I mean, Madame Cure. They all did science experiments over for tons of them. So these know what they talking about and it's okay to debate them. Just be ready for. Ready to get wrong.
Chuck Nice
Right? Just be ready to be wrong.
Lord Jamar
Their actual job, like, right.
Godfrey
Just get ready, you know?
Lord Jamar
You know, it's like getting in a scene with Denzel and be like, I know how to act. All right.
Godfrey
Are you sure about that? Are you sure? So what are we going to do? We're going to work. You're going to keep your mouth shut? Is that what you're telling me? You think you know. You know.
Lord Jamar
And now I'm sitting here like, I don't know how to act.
Godfrey
Like that girl said, what do I need to do to be actor? He said, learn. Shut up. Turn off your phone. Practice this train. Right?
Lord Jamar
It was. Who was Men of Society who directed that? Which brothers?
Godfrey
Was it Hudin? No, not the Hud.
Chuck Nice
I think it was the Hud. Yeah, I think it was.
Godfrey
Was it Hudin brothers?
Lord Jamar
No.
Chuck Nice
Oh, no, it was. Was it Bill Duke?
Lord Jamar
N. Society is the. The brothers, you know.
Godfrey
You know, you done up. You remember that one, right, with Bill. Bill Allen.
Chuck Nice
It was the Hughes brothers.
Lord Jamar
The Hughes brothers.
Godfrey
Oh, Bill Duke was the one who said, you know, you done up.
Chuck Nice
He was in. He was actually in it. Yeah.
Lord Jamar
So Alan Hughes was doing a podcast, I think it was like, with Neil Brennan maybe, and was talking about directing Denzel for the first time. And anytime he had any type of note or real direction, Denzel would just yell, 32. 32. He'd do it for the whole week. And then Alan Hughes realized he was saying the amount of movies he's done and saying, shut the. Shut the up. 32. 32. Don't tell me what the I'm doing right now.
Chuck Nice
That is Paul.
Godfrey
Hilarious. 32.
Lord Jamar
Didn't for a whole week.
Chuck Nice
Thought he.
Godfrey
Was calling it audible. 32. Set. Set 5.
Chuck Nice
32 is 32. Crazy.
Godfrey
But it's. You know that. That's what I. It's like, shut the up.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, let me do what I got.
Godfrey
I got. You just saw me in a gang of movies, right? Got an Oscar real quick, right?
Chuck Nice
Let me do what I do.
Lord Jamar
Know what I'm doing.
Godfrey
Everybody was like, den, can you like, no.
Chuck Nice
Yeah. No, I can't.
Godfrey
Do you see me directing you? Huh? You know, it's in. In that 30. It happened to me. I was on a set and. And when it comes to comedy. Like, I just feel like most people can't.
Chuck Nice
What's the difference for you between, let's.
Godfrey
Say stand up and then actual situational comedy? Yeah, I, it's. It. I can, I'm. I'm good at both. You know, not everybody. A lot of comedians can transfer into acting. That's one thing. A lot of comedians can go from stand up to like sketch comedy and stuff like that. Cause we have that timing thing. We do character work on stage so we can adjust easier. I'm not saying we're all gonna be the greatest at it, but we. That's why they pick a lot of comics on a lot of sketch stuff. Cause we kind of know. Cause a lot of sketches come from comics that they've watched or they'll steal a joke and just extend it into a sketch. Feel me? Yeah. So a lot of times a lot of writers from the snls and whatever will go to comedy clubs.
Chuck Nice
Okay.
Godfrey
To get premises. Oh, yeah. And you'll go, wait a minute. That looks like my.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
You know what I mean? So that's why we're real. We. We can think in sketch too. Because a lot of comics are writers.
Chuck Nice
Right?
Godfrey
You got Michael Che, you got Colin Jost. They're all comics.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
You know, a lot of my comic friends write a lot of sketches. They're all comedians.
Lord Jamar
So even though John Mulaney was the head writer at snl.
Chuck Nice
Right.
Godfrey
Sketch. He's a stand up. So a lot of us are stand up. Colin Quinn was a stand up. Dennis Miller, a stand up. Stand up. So we can get into acting. A lot of comics can become dramatic actors too. You can, because we're angry. First of all, we're fucking angry. Comedy comes from anger, pain and shit like that. You look at some great actors. Robin Williams, you look at. Michael Keaton was a standup. Really? What? Yeah, Michael stand up comic. Michael Keaton, who's one of the best, greatest actors. Michael Keaton was a stand up. Kevin Pollock a stand up. Who else was. Richard Pryor was a good actor. Richard Pryor act his ass off. You got Eddie Murphy, you got. We can keep going. There's a lot of stand ups that can become actors. Rosie o' Donnell was a stand up comic. Roseanne Barr, stand up. Comet. We could just. It's easy to. It's easier. It's. It's harder for an actor to do comedy.
Chuck Nice
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Godfrey
But drama. We. It's easier for us to get into that.
Lord Jamar
We've seen Robert De Niro try to be a comedic Actor, actor. And it's funny because, like, he's doing mafia movies. I like. Listen, I like the Parents too.
Godfrey
But he.
Lord Jamar
But we got to be a comedian.
Godfrey
There was a show called the Actor's Studio.
Lord Jamar
Yeah, I remember.
Godfrey
With James Lipton. Yeah, I love that interview. Chappelle did it. Yeah. And he asked De Niro, what's the hardest thing for you as an actor? He goes, comedy. It's. It's so difficult. Denzel said it. Comedy, comedy. Kim Basinger said, comedy, comedy. It's harder than drama. And it doesn't get rewarded the way it should be. I think a funny movie should be rewarded for. Because that's hard because you already go into. When you're going to go see a funny, funny movie, you already got attitude. This better be funny.
Chuck Nice
Right, right, right.
Godfrey
That, you know.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
You don't go into the drama going, I better cry like a. Because the Notebook had me snotting bubbles, baby. I better cry like a. I better cry like a. Do I wanna. I wanna lose breath in this? You never do that. Yeah, you just go, drama's a drama. You don't always go to funny. Oh, that wasn't even funny. Yeah, it's way harder because there's an expectation.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
You know, with drama, you can have laughter, you can cry, you can. Comedy's like. I just. I come for one fucking reaction.
Chuck Nice
So you grew up. You grew up in Chicago.
Godfrey
Yep.
Chuck Nice
What's the. Is it tougher? Like the. The comedy scene, the comedy clubs in Chicago? Is it tougher than New York, or is New York by far the to toughest city for comedy right now?
Godfrey
I don't know the. The landscape of comedy as far as coming up, because I'm like, I've been doing it over 25 years, so I don't. But I knew in Chicago, I mean, New York had just more stages.
Chuck Nice
Okay.
Godfrey
New York. And I was coming up during the Def jam times and the night it was. I ain't gonna lie. The urban was wild as. Like, these New York were like, boo. I don't give a. Yeah, I didn't even go up yet.
Lord Jamar
They went to boo.
Godfrey
They'd be like, I'm just letting you know what's about to happen to you. Don't be corny out here, son. All you see was Pele. Pele jackets and echo jackets and like that. It's like this.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
Like make me. Laughter like this. Yeah. All right. You're like, damn, son, what the. You. Brooke. I did all. But in Chicago, we had our urban circuit because I came under Bernie Mac's club. So it was me, Deon Cole. I would see Dion Cole, Corey Holcomb, D. Ray Davis. I see Mike Epps would come from Indianapolis, Cedric would come from St. Louis. So we was under Bernie Mac. Shit. So we were doing urban. Like Chicago urban scene was like, you know, we had Bishop, Don Juan, you know, the guy that hangs out with Snoop. I know before Snoop, though. He knew me as an amateur. When I shot Soul playing with Snoop, Bishop came on the stage set and greeted me first.
Chuck Nice
Wow.
Godfrey
He came on, he said, baby, man, I'm proud of you, baby. Man, you've been, man. I remember when you first started, baby. You represent Chicago.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
And Snoop was like, how you know? I said, I'm from Chicago, Snoop. He goes, that's why I with you, dog.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, I love Chicago.
Godfrey
I said, yeah, we used to do pimp shows in Chicago where the pimps would come. Bernie Mac and it would be the Chicago Bulls. When we was winning.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
When we was giving the Knicks handing that they ass, boy.
Chuck Nice
A lot of years of that.
Godfrey
That was the greatest playoff ever. That. But that was the time when I was coming to New York wearing. Wearing Jordan T shirts. Just being an. And Cats was like, no, you, man. I go, yo, I'm not playing in the game, bro. Yeah, go say that to Jordan, man. Say it to me. I'm right here telling jokes, bro. I did like that. I dug myself in a hole every time I'd be wearing Jordans. Like, Jordan had, like, real special. Like, he had a store. It was Jordan's. Had his restaurant in Chicago. And there was T shirts you could only get from that store. So I would buy these exclusive. So I had one where he's a cyborg. Jordan the greatest. And I came on stage with that in Brooklyn. I was in Brooklyn. I went. I think I went up after Chappelle or D.C. benny went up. They was like, yo, Chicago. I go, you're losing. It does no good. Jordan's still got to score 50. You. You being mad here. Yeah. Comedy show is going to do you no good, my friend. He will still score 50. Did you know the only reason why you're in Madison Square Garden is for Michael Jordan?
Chuck Nice
Exactly.
Godfrey
Don't forget.
Chuck Nice
Exactly.
Godfrey
Go ahead.
Lord Jamar
Did you know in Chicago at that time, because that list you just named off, coming like this is all Birdie.
Godfrey
Mac Bertie Mack was like the guy. And my boy, Evan Lionel Evan, my big brother, is the one that got Birdie that hooked Bernie up. People don't know Evan. Evan's like this old Chicago dude, my big brother who started the black comedy school circuit when he was in college and just put money. He was the first guy to put money in our pockets. And he's the one that brought Bernie into the scene, okay? He got footage on Bernie doing open mics.
Lord Jamar
Crazy.
Chuck Nice
Wow.
Godfrey
He got shit on Bernie doing open mics. I've seen it.
Chuck Nice
Wow.
Godfrey
When Bernie wasn't rich, when Bernie was just funny with his little glasses and shit. Some of them a bitch, right? Fuck your motherfucker. Yeah, yeah. He got footage on all of us when we first started. Evan Lionel, remember that name? He's the one that stopped Bernie from a life of crime time. He's the one that went to high school with Bernie. Chicago Vocational high school. Bernard McCullum. You know what I mean? He said, bernie, man, come do my shows. Do that. You talented. That's the dude we need to talk about Evan Lionel, for real. He brought us all into that. You know what I'm saying? He's still in la. And anytime. Chicago, Chicago, anything that happens with Chicago, we always let him know I'm in town. He looks out for Chicago. So D. Ray, all of us came through there. I saw everybody. D.L. hughley came through there. Everybody. Then we had a club called All Jokes Aside, which was all black comedy club for like seven years. And it was all black. And it wasn't Black Knight at a white establishment because most of the black knights.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, yeah.
Godfrey
At a mainstream establishment.
Lord Jamar
Urban nights.
Godfrey
Yeah, I'm sorry, the urban people nights, the rough nights. Economically. But what's minimum funny is the urban nights are what keeps the clubs open.
Chuck Nice
Absolutely.
Godfrey
They make the most money. But they won't say anything about that because it. And. And what's funny is most of the African American headliners are the reasons why a lot of these comedy clubs survive. It isn't the white ones. It isn't the. Like. It's like the black ones always kept going because the urban nights made. It was packed.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
Because it was like, oh, this is all night. You know? And yeah, that's. That's. That's where I came from. Watching all of the Mark Curry. I just watch all the greats come through there, man. Like, it was like, holy shit, no worry.
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Chuck Nice
So speaking of going back in those days, we coming up on the BET Awards next week.
Godfrey
Oh, I. Don't invite me to that, but go ahead.
Chuck Nice
You said don't invite you.
Godfrey
I never get invited to.
Chuck Nice
Really?
Godfrey
I don't get invited to any of that.
Lord Jamar
We just got invited because of Boost. Boost Mobile?
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
That's great.
Chuck Nice
Well, thanks to Boost Mobile. But you. You were on, like, Comic View. You did the BET Comic View.
Godfrey
I did that after they started paying us normal money. Because they used to pay you 150 and make you pay your own way. I found that out. I said, I'm with sag. I ain't doing that. I'm like, I'm with sag. Then they. Then they go, we're. Now we're. We're. We have sag. We'll pay you this. And I go, okay. Gentleman salary. That's cool. Yeah, I'll do. I'll do it now.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
So I did it in it, like, Atlanta, like, 2002.
Chuck Nice
Comic View was big, though.
Godfrey
It was huge. But I didn't want to do it. 150 and I'm good.
Chuck Nice
Yeah. Yeah.
Godfrey
But I did it. I did it four times. I did it la, Chicago, New Orleans and Atlanta.
Chuck Nice
Okay.
Godfrey
And, yeah, it worked out. You know, I was happy because I like. I liked Comic View. People were watching the. Out of it. It was its highest rated show. And I said, well, you pay us decent, right? I'll do it right. So, yeah, that was cool.
Chuck Nice
That was.
Godfrey
That was cool.
Chuck Nice
Another platform that I always speak about a lot that I absolutely loved growing up that I think we don't speak about or give enough praise to. In Livin Color.
Godfrey
Oh, man. Come on, man.
Chuck Nice
Keenan Ivy Wayans. The Wayans family.
Godfrey
Genius. Genius.
Chuck Nice
How important is a show like that.
Godfrey
To black comics, man? It's super important. Cause you look at something like SNL and you had Eddie Murphy who changed the game. But let's give Garrett Morris some props. Cause he was the first Black member in 1975. But then Eddie Murphy took it to a level of he was the greatest. He's greatest. The greatest SNL member ever. Ever.
Chuck Nice
So.
Godfrey
But by far, because he was the only member to host while he was on the show. He hosted SNL while he was on the show. Eddie Murphy brought it to number one. SNL was in third place. Eddie Murphy brought it to number one, period. Like, ain't nobody with Eddie Murphy. I don't anybody say ain't nobody. And there are some great ones. Will Ferrell's great. Mike Myers, there's a lot. Tim Kazarinski, Joe Pisco, a lot of great ones. Like Mary Gross. There was like, what's her name? The. Does the superstar. Oh, Molly Shannon. Like, oh, Sherry o' Terry. Like, there's some great. But no one's with Eddie Murphy. No way. I'm sorry. Eddie was the. And that was important. And everybody wanted to be Eddie Murphy. We was like, eddie. We all want to be Eddie Murphy. And then when In Living Color came, you go, what? An all black sketch? Because you were used to seeing white. All white skin. Because most skin sketch, like improv. I come from Chicago. We're Second City. That's where a lot of people from SNL come from. Yeah, John Belushi was Belushi. Stephen Colbert, Chris. Chris Farley. I. I worked as a bar back in Second City. I got a job. My friend was working. She goes, you want a job? I go, yeah, you know, I'm off for colleges. She's like, yeah, you want to work in the bar? I said, yeah, it, you know, wash dishes, make drinks. And that's when I saw Chris Farley. And I go, who's that fat dude? That dude's funny. As Tim Mead. And them. I would watch them. I'm like 16 something. Yo, that dude, that fat dude's slamming himself into the table. And. And he was from Wisconsin, but he lived in Chicago. But a lot of Stephen Colbert, a lot of people came. What's her name? What? Sherry o' Terry came from Second City. What's the main lady? Tina Fey. They're all from Second City, Chicago. So their sketch was. Sketch is big in Chicago. All the Improv Olympics, all. But it was very white. He wasn't a lot of black people, not a lot of Asians, nothing. It was white dominated. So to see In Living Color was like, yo, what the fuck? And this is. And Jim Carrey gives credit to them.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, absolutely.
Godfrey
Because he goes, snl rejected me. I was. The black people accepted me. Jim Carrey's like, nobody chose me. Nobody hired me. But it was Keenan Ivy Wayne, who's a fucking genius. Keenan is the one that made me who I am. Jim Carrey said. And Jim Carrey is the first guy ever opened up up for in Chicago.
Chuck Nice
Really?
Godfrey
Illinois Institute of Technology. My friend was an engineer engineering student and she was head of the student activity, the black student year. She goes, you want to open up for Jim Carrey? Because I had just started. I said, are you kidding me? I love Jim Carrey. So I opened up for him. I did 10 minutes with Harlan Williams, if you know Harlan Williams. Yeah. And I. Yeah, that was my first big. That was when Jim, right before he blew up for Pet Detective. I was in the basement with this. Just talking, talking to him. He was the nicest dude. Now I'm friends with his daughter. Years later. I know Jane. My boy used to date. Now I'm cool with his daughter, which is insane.
Chuck Nice
That's wild.
Lord Jamar
What was that combo like in the basement?
Godfrey
It was just. He was just like. I was like, oh, so what are you doing? You know, like, hey, what are you up to now? Well, I got this. That we were just talking normal. He goes, oh, you're really funny. It was just. And I have a picture with him like. And that's. And then after that he just. He's so talented. He's scary talented. But I always. But guys like Jim Carrey and Eddie Murphy and. And like from the Joan Rivers to the Rodney Davisville to the Richard Pryors to the Paul Mooney's to the Don Rickles to. I grew up watching Greats man. Sammy Davis Jr. Like, I grew up watching Cold Man. I said, I gotta be like that.
Lord Jamar
I don't.
Godfrey
Being average to me is trash. I don't, I don't get that. Watching Michael Jordan like a. Who would practice after the games and he would work on his. Like when you're used to watching that in your life, I go, that's how I want to be. I don't want to be. Ok. That.
Chuck Nice
Right.
Godfrey
I think it's a. I think it's a. It's a. It's sacrilege for people to pay money to watch average. To me, I don't. It doesn't necessarily mean you have to like what I'm saying.
Chuck Nice
Right.
Godfrey
But as far as my skill level.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
Is the key.
Chuck Nice
Right.
Godfrey
I'm. I grew up. I don't know. I grew up watching skilled performers and this is an era of mediocre, man. Mediocre. Mediocre. It's. I'm. I'm sorry. It's not a, it's not a hater thing. It's like if you're good. I'm gonna say it. I go, yeah, yo, that. That's what I'm talking about. Mediocre. Like, come on now.
Lord Jamar
Do you think it's that or we just have more access to seeing more people?
Godfrey
I think that the mediocrity has inspired more mediocre people.
Lord Jamar
I agree.
Godfrey
Because when you. When I was coming up, you go, I can't do that.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
You would just watch it and go, damn, man. When you watch Jordan and you watching Ewing and all, you go, God, that's another level. Because I play baseball, football. You know, I play. Played all that. But to watch Shannon Shark play ball, that's a whole nother level.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
And I played college ball, but I was like, damn, there's people better than me. Like. And you're like, I'm decent.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
Oh, this dude. What? When you go to the pro levels, I tell people the pro level. That's why when people are in the stands talking about pro athletes, keep your mouth shut. We're all. We all suck. That's why we're sitting here wearing this motherfucker's jersey. And your fat. Your face is half painted.
Lord Jamar
You paid a lot of money to.
Godfrey
Watch your faces have painted with their names on their bellies.
Lord Jamar
You.
Godfrey
And you're going, man, he missed that pass. You would have missed it, too. Stupid.
Lord Jamar
You wouldn't be able to take the pass.
Godfrey
Right, right. You're flag football champ if. Shut your mouth. Yeah, he's a flag. Yeah. So I'm saying, like, I. I just. I really believe when you perform, you want people to go, God damn.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, that was.
Godfrey
That's when I'm. That's how I take my. I only know. I only watch the best. So. But, like, this business is a weird. It's like. I didn't know show business was so weird where when you were good, people had a problem with that.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, I'm not even.
Godfrey
I was like, wait, what? Because Bill Cosby. I worked. My first job was working with Cosby. Like, yeah, I was. I was an audience coordinator in Queens, New York, and I would, you know, and to watch Cosby do his knowing. No way. Cosby, bro. For real. Like, I. I saw that. This to do. To see him do his work. I was like, ain't nobody with him. Like, because Prior wanted to be Cosby, people understand. He inspired Richard Prior. Cosby is that. I know all this that's happened with him, but Cosby is the king. For real.
Lord Jamar
Like, an audience that he asked you to coordinate.
Godfrey
Oh, God. The fact that you waited for it. He was like this. He was like, wait, I gotta say it. I. I don't like your eagerness. That pissed me off. He's like this. You're like.
Lord Jamar
And.
Godfrey
Okay, ready?
Lord Jamar
I love that you observed what kind of audience to say it for sure.
Godfrey
You. You were like this.
Lord Jamar
You were. You did the butt on the Cosby thing.
Godfrey
I telegraphed it. You were like that. I did. It's like I saw the pitch coming. I smacked it out the park like this.
Lord Jamar
What's funny is I was going to take it back in my head like this, but then when you said, forget about the Cosby thing.
Godfrey
So what about. What did he. Now.
Chuck Nice
Say it now. Say it now.
Godfrey
That's in my head.
Lord Jamar
I deserves a. Yeah, you know, where's.
Godfrey
Where's the Family Feud buzzer? Like your ass thought your ass was funny. Boy, some ofUS got five answers on the board. Here's the question. Name something wants to say when he has a joke in his head or coordination. Shutting up was the number one answer. Shutting up was the.
Lord Jamar
Rhythm.
Godfrey
Cory was like. I mean, Roy was like. That's all folks. I saw you fumbling.
Chuck Nice
Well, you.
Godfrey
You, Rory. So.
Lord Jamar
So you're defending. You're defending him.
Godfrey
Whoa, whoa.
Lord Jamar
Sorry. Boost Mobile.
Godfrey
Damn. The Boost Mobile thing came off.
Lord Jamar
Now they don't know how we pay for these lights.
Chuck Nice
So you are known for obviously, your impressions. Who's the. The one impression that you probably love doing the most like this.
Godfrey
Right? Man, I. This is such a great show. Very good. Boost Mobile. Very good. You should have me sponsor it. Boost is terrible. What are they boosting? Nothing. This is so great. So great. It's wonderful. This is a very good podcast. I've been to way better, but I thank you. You better.
Lord Jamar
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Godfrey
Boost. Yeah, they're wonderful, but they're pieces of. What they need is a boost from me. I should call them bootleg.
Lord Jamar
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Godfrey
Call in the nukes with carrier. There's many carriers out there. I know very carriers. There's Mariah Carey. There's a lot. There's Carrie the movie. Lots of. There's that one. There's so many carries. I know very good of. Very much in carries.
Lord Jamar
I know all the carries.
Godfrey
There's a lot of carries. Lot of carries. Carrie Fishers. There's. There's carries. So many carries. I know there's. I know a running back has lots of carries. So I'm very good at it. You tried to trick Me. That was very rude. Very rude. I. My vocabulary, very extensive.
Chuck Nice
Who are your. We'll be talking about black comedians, obviously, in Living Color. Some great comics to come out of this.
Godfrey
But another thing about Living Color, they saved Fox, though. They literally saved Fox. And then they changed the whole halftime highlight that, you know, because they. The halftime. They took the numbers away from halftime show. That's how big they were. So they. They changed. They changed television. They helped Fox. And because there was a time where they say black people don't sell, which was bullshit. They. They actually do sell Tommy Davidson, Because Tommy Davidson had come to my college and performed. That's where I really got inspired to do comedy in my third year college comedian ever.
Lord Jamar
To me.
Godfrey
No. And I hung out with Tommy Davidson. And then when I started doing comedy, I did a premium blend on Comedy Central when Comedy Central was actually funny. And Tommy Davidson was my host, which was crazy. Crazy. And he had remembered me. Oh, you showed me around your campus. Crazy shit. Yeah. But they saved Fox. Black people have saved. Eddie Murphy, saved SNL in Living Colored, saved Fox, Right. Wesley Snipes saved. Not marvel in 99. Because I hung out with Stan Lee three times. My friend used to work for Stan Lee. And when he was 89, and I was in his office, and he goes. He goes, yeah, Godfrey, Let me show you a picture of you. Say Wesley Snipes there. Wesley Snipes. He saved Marvel. We were going on. We were going bankrupt if it wasn't for Wesley Snipes. Wesley Snipes saved Marvel. And we had seen another. Yeah, Blade did. Wow. Blade sold Wesley, I remember, huge. It was huge. And Wes and Blade one and two, then three, they started fucking it up.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
Brought Ryan Reynolds in all these Parker plots. Like, he's getting corny now. And. And you never saw another Blade again. And then the Blade that was coming out, they stopped that production. 25 years later, there's no Blade, and it saved all of Marvel. Then when Blade showed up on Deadpool, people went like, oh, my God, but black people sell. Look at what Black Panther did.
Chuck Nice
It went.
Godfrey
It was the highest grossing Marvel film. We sell, man. You just don't want us to have anything. You got to get out of that old adage, man, we sell. You know why I know black people sell? Because you copy us all around the world. Everybody's DJing, pop locking, rapping. You like, black culture is the best culture on the planet. It just is. It's not.
Chuck Nice
If.
Godfrey
If it was Asian culture culture, I'd say it right. Black culture is the best. Because I see Asians on tick tock, pop, locking and DJing. I see everybody doing black. So it's obviously selling, right? You know what I'm saying? So your adage, get with it and just let people rock like black people Sell.
Chuck Nice
Right?
Godfrey
We're cool. I listen. I like white actors. I've been watching them all my life.
Lord Jamar
Yeah, you had no choice.
Godfrey
I love. I had no choice. I love Steve McQueen.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
I love Charles Bronson.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, Yeah.
Godfrey
I love Clint Eastwood. I love, love, love.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, yeah, right.
Godfrey
There's other people, right? Why can't there be Arab actors, Indian actors? Why can't you know. You ever see Monkey Man? Monkey. Monkey man is fire. It's. It's with Dave Patel from Slumdog Millionaire. And you know the guy, the little nerdy kid. Yeah. He made a movie called Monkey Man. See that I gotta watch. Jordan Peele produced it. Said I'm gonna produce it because he was trying to get it sold. It was like, sort of like a John Wick, but an Indian style. Fantastic. And he said, I'm tired of playing this stereotypical nerdy Indian dude. We can do action. We can do the stuff like the white guys do. And he sort of like funded it himself. Jordan Peele produced it is fantastic. It's like we don't mind seeing white actors, but the world. 7% of the world is white. 7%. Yeah. Population wise, it's. You guys go by American standards.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
7% of the world is white. 7. The rest is brown. Where the are we? What? What's wrong with showing us what. Why is it killing you to just like, look what sinners did. Save the box office again. It saved. And it's an original script. 300, $400 million. And they tried to lie in Variety. That wasn't doing well. And Ben Stiller said, why the would you do it? Do that to them, right? Ben Stiller stood up and said, why are you doing that? Sinners is murdering. We sell, man. It's just good stories. That's all people want to see themselves. We don't. I don't want to see white rom coms all the time. Black dudes are smooth as, right? We a lot you talking about. Most of the times you get your swag from us. That's how you talk to women. Because you acted like us, right? And you get intimidated when we walk in the room. So how are you the smoothest dude here? Fuck out. Out of here. Where the black rom com? Where's everybody? Everybody. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, it's like, I love the rom coms, but we, you know, 90s black movies were fire the wood 2 complete. And then it went away. It's like, stop. It's like, enough with. Get out of your head. Nobody's trying to take over. Nobody's trying to do anything to you. We just want to win. Everybody can eat, man. But it's just these, they don't sell. Who the you talk. Talk about, where have you been? Every. I've been to over 40 countries and I see, every country I see, they're rapping. I went to when I was in Lithuania. I did a show in Lithuania, of all places. They called me out there, did a show, some little festival, and they took me to a hip hop concert. It was all Lithuanians. I was the only black dude there. I'm laughing my ass off because these, like, holding dicks. And I'm sitting there going. And it said, hip hop. And I said, you guys are acting like black people. And you know what's, you know what's big in Lithuania? Basketball. That's why they get a lot of bul.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
They were hooping in the summer. In the winter time, it was cold then. They was hooping full courts.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
In Colts shooting.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
They were like, oh, no. Basketball is like religion out here. I go, of course it is.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
You're being black right now.
Chuck Nice
Of course it is.
Godfrey
What I mean, in China.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
I'm in Beijing. Hip hop. I was like, the. We talking about, yeah, they're getting afros. They're making their hair like ours. What do you mean we don't sell?
Lord Jamar
All the K pop girl groups are acting like black.
Godfrey
That's all Temptations New edition. It's black.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
Black boy band. That's black steps. That's black.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
I'm just saying, it is what it. Don't. Don't say that. We don't sell. Don't say that enough. I mean, just saying. Enough with the racial slurs. Enough making fun of us. Enough with the black face. Enough with that. We want. We run rent free in people's heads. Black people are the most famous race because we run rent free in everybody's head. Yeah, everybody's head. It's either they got something good to say or they're on, oh, okay, Someone's doing the end where someone's wearing black face. We get it. You can't get enough of us. You can't. It is what it is. We get it. You want our dicks, but you. So you gotta make fun because of Insecurity. We ain't thinking about you. Honestly, we ain't thinking about you. We really not.
Chuck Nice
Right?
Godfrey
But the only way you exist is by calling us names. That just shows your existence. How about being a good human being and go, hey, what's up? That's what you do. But you got to call us names so we can. You can show you exist because, you know, we really don't give a. About you. Yeah, we really don't. And, you know, if you come with the right. You come into the right person, you can get up out here. And you know that.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
Because out here got hands. There's a difference between feet.
Chuck Nice
I like how we do that. We just throw that little tidbit in it. We got hands.
Godfrey
And I told. And I said about those South Africans that are coming here. Try that. Apartheid out here. Try that. They will beat the accent out you. Out here. You got it twisted. I know, I know.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
New York is a Dutch colony. It's an old Dutch colony, But this is 1600s.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Godfrey
Be careful out here. These.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
Don't. I'm gonna tell you right now, it's. There's a difference between hate and race. Rage. We have rage. You have hate for no reason. Rage is all of us. We have every reason to take your head off, but we don't do that, because that's not our nature. That's not our nature. We. As long as you cool, we go, oh, man, he cool as fuck.
Chuck Nice
Right?
Godfrey
But then we'll protect you if you cool. But then you go say some stupid shit. We're like, oh. We thought. It's like, okay, here's a perfect example. It's like when Kramer, Michael Richards said what he said. I worked with Michael Richards at the Laugh Factory, and I sat with him. He's a weird dude, but I sat as a comic. And then he said all the N word on my. And I remember walking down the street, and it was these dudes. They're cleaning the streets. They was like that. They got that program where they wear the blue little things. It's like a. For prisoners. They got this cleaning program. And I. And I was walking. I was standing there by the train station, and these dudes was like, man, you hear that? Kramer said, man. Man, I love that, too. I love. He was my favorite character on Seinfeld. It was black people talking about him. Wow, that was a disappointment. I said, why? Why? Why are you still on that? And then they'll say, move on. You guys need to move on. You the only race that hasn't moved on. You the only ones. You still call people niggas. What are you doing? That's an old term. 400 years. You still saying the same. Yeah, everybody's moving on but you. Yeah, you still on that old. At that old mentality. Get rid of. Of it, bro. Enough of it.
Chuck Nice
There was a conversation on. And because you are Nigerian American.
Godfrey
Was this too heavy for y' all?
Chuck Nice
No, no, no. This was great.
Lord Jamar
This is great.
Chuck Nice
This was amazing.
Lord Jamar
You sure you don't want me to ask this question?
Chuck Nice
No, I definitely don't want. But there was a. There was a.
Godfrey
From the coordination.
Chuck Nice
There was a. There was a thing on the timeline.
Lord Jamar
I can't wait to say it.
Chuck Nice
There was a. A thing on the timeline that happens often on the timeline where black Americans and black Africans.
Godfrey
Oh, yeah, yeah. Here we go.
Lord Jamar
Clash.
Godfrey
Yeah, no doubt.
Chuck Nice
We don't like this. And y' all. We don't like each other.
Godfrey
Yeah. What is that about at. Oh, that's. Like I said, it's. You can give it to the media for that credit one thing. Okay, here's the reason why the Asians got their Asian hate bill signed. Remember, they got that signed in seconds. Yeah.
Chuck Nice
Two days.
Godfrey
Because they're connected to. Because they're connected to Asia. Chinese people still got connection to Asia. And the Asians. And they got. They got deals with Asia. So they go. It would behoove us to sign this hate bill because the Asians in Asia look out for the Asians here because they got family out here that are establishing themselves, even though Chinese have been here since, what, the early 1700s, 1800s. Built the railroads for Anderson Cooper's granddad.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, it. Was it Oakland or what?
Godfrey
Vanderbilt. San Francisco. Yeah.
Chuck Nice
San Francisco. Yeah.
Godfrey
Cornelius Vanderbilt is Anderson Cooper's great grandfather. Father.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
And there's a statue of him. I'm 46. You know, when you make that turn off of Park Avenue, that statue, that's his great, great grandfather. Anderson Cooper comes from that kind of money.
Lord Jamar
He literally lives in a firehouse.
Godfrey
Yeah, the one on 3rd street that used to be right next to the Boston Comedy Club. He bought that whole firehouse. But he's loaded like that, like Gloria Vanderbilt. That's his mother. Famous treasure. So the Chinese look out for their people and they. No, those are our people. You better sign some shit. What you doing? Africa is divided, see, because Europeans came and purposely divided the African countries. You know, you have to have a passport to go to the neighboring country. But in Europe, you could take a train to Italy, to France, because I took a train from Spain to. From Amsterdam to Spain that you don't need a passport. But they came. The Europeans came when they were colonized. Colonizing and taking all the resources. They literally purposely bordered off African countries so Africans couldn't meet each other. That's where the division comes from. Colonization, Right. So when on tv, you know, I was born in America. My sister was born in Nigeria. Me and my brother, born in America. Grew up in Chicago. I born in Nebraska. My father was in school in Nebraska. Then we moved to Chicago. So on tv, we would watch Africa, and it would be poor people, bellies, flies and Tarzan.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
And I need to ask my dad, is this. Whatever. He goes, what are you talking. We have caught. We have. We were like, right?
Chuck Nice
Yeah, yeah.
Godfrey
So then they show that to us. So Africans, African Americans. Like, damn, these Africans are up. Then in Africa, they show black Americans being arrested, criminals, drug dealing. So they. They're. So. They purposely did that because they didn't want any black progress. That was like, we can't let these motherfuckers rise. So that's why when you. When an African meets in African American, they'd be like, oh, you black. African booty scratchers. Black African booty scratchers. I was like, we scratch our butts. I used to think, and I didn't even want to scratch my ass. Like, I don't want to stereotype. You know, I'm itching. Like, I don't want to do this. But then we were thought. And then Africans be like, oh, you guys are like, lazy. Da, da, da. And African Americans are some of the most unlike people. If you know the history of African American history, they built this country. Lazy. White people were lazy. They weren't doing anything right. Black people did everything. You'd even know that. Denim. Denim is a black invention. Denim jeans are a black invention because they created them to work in the fields. Denim, you talk about empty. Just saying. The elevator, the escalator, all of this. Black inventions. The street sweeper is a black invention, but it makes sense. We were working all the time. The ironing board, the dryer, refrigeration, it's black. The microphones we talk on, the guy's still alive. He created it. James west, black inventor. The. Our security system, 1966, of a black nurse, Mary Van Brighton, in Queens, she just. She created the security system. You understand where I'm coming from. It's like, we created so much. African Americans created. Lazy. Are you talking about. But they were stolen. Patents were stolen. Thomas Edison stole a lot of Black people. I mean, he was a great inventor, but he stole a lot of shit too. And he did a lot of horrible to Jewish people who were trying to make movies. That's how Hollywood was created it, right? They had to move LA because Thomas Edison was trying to take up. Because he. He had created the movie camera. But then there were like a lot of little Jewish, like, you know, immigrants going, I want to start. We want to start doing movies. And that's how the nickelodeons were made. The nickelodeons were little, you know, little die little films.
Chuck Nice
You.
Godfrey
You put a nickel in.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
And you'd watch. And those Jewish people were like, you know, renting them out. And they were so anti Semitic. Thomas Edison and Henry Ford were anti Semitic. Don't get these out of here. And a lot of of them went west and then started crew B. Mayer, Warner Brothers. These are all real people. Fox, William Fox. They started creating their own, you know what I'm saying? Because of people stealing all. You know what I mean? I'm just saying. But survival. It was just survival. That's why when you see, like the whole Jewish story is heavy, like they were getting their asses whooped and they go, let's create our own shit. Same with black folks. Creating, creating. Look at all of America. American music, all of it. Blacks, people oppressed. We create country music. Country music is black.
Chuck Nice
So absolutely.
Godfrey
All that. Yeah, it's black. It was poor black people singing and poor whites, like, I won't sing too. You know, Bluegrass, we call it Blue Grass. It's black.
Chuck Nice
Well, the banjo is black.
Godfrey
It's African.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, absolutely, it's African.
Godfrey
There's. There's a. There's a museum in Scottsdale, Arizona, of all places, called the Music. The Museum of Instruments. Instrumental music. It's Mim. I think they have one in Austria. When you walk in there, it's all the instruments from their original origin from every continent. They divide them all in. Africa is the biggest one. Of course they have Australia. If you look at Australia, you'll see they have video of the actual instrument being played. Australia, you got to see Australia. You up. They show the aborigines, okay? And so everybody's like. Like, who they. They go, those are the original Australians. And they're playing the didgeridoo. They're playing all these instruments that people thought it was white. And it's the. They show the black people with their. Their tribal marks, and it's just them. And I go, the original. And then when you walk into another place, there's the original Banjo. The banjo. African. So all these hillbillies have been going playing in Africa instrument. You understand? So all of that is like, all of that. They don't want. That's why they, you know, this administration, we got to stop black history. We got to ban all the books because they don't want you to know what the. Has been done. What they did. Because most of, let's be honest, most of black American history is about being on.
Chuck Nice
Oh, absolutely.
Godfrey
That's all they were being. And it's. And that's why they go, we don't want to talk. No, no, no. We need to talk about it. You know why we need to talk about it. We got to understand why you still acting that way. Way right now. You have to know history. And I don't want to sound corny. You have to know history to assess how A is now.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
Why do you act like that? Where's this coming from? Well, we just move on. No, but you call me the N word. I need to know where it comes from. Oh, gotcha. That's. So that helps me to be able to navigate.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
You understand? So it's like, okay, if you go to the doctor, what's the first thing they pull out? What's the first thing they pull out?
Chuck Nice
You're in insurance form.
Godfrey
I know some real shit.
Lord Jamar
We can't help it.
Godfrey
But the first thing they pull out is your medical history.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, absolutely.
Godfrey
They go, oh, and they make you go, you can fill this out. Have you had. Do you take. It's all history.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
The dentist to bring out. Okay. When you was last here. Let's see. That's the same thing, but for us it's always just go, can we just move? But everybody else's history gets talked about, but us is like, oh, here we go with the black.
Chuck Nice
Black.
Godfrey
Well, you're enjoying half of our. You're enjoy enjoying black every day.
Chuck Nice
Every day.
Godfrey
You just got back from Beyonce concert and you're mad about history. Now you just. Beyonce comes from this pain.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
Jay Z comes from. Where do you think hip hop comes from?
Chuck Nice
Right?
Godfrey
It comes from pain. Black people were doing it. It was we. It was black folks rapping. Period Jay ass black everything. Scott, Scott, Scott. Music is, it's. It's. It's Caribbean rock and roll. And it was a lot of white bands playing. The punk rock is black. You can look at the. You can look at the band called Death documentary that predates the Ramones. Black.
Lord Jamar
Yeah.
Godfrey
Stop rock and roll.
Lord Jamar
Most of what Led Zeppelin stole was.
Godfrey
Oh yeah, they Got sued for plagiarism. Nobody, no white guy goes, I'll be your back door, man. That's a black riff.
Lord Jamar
Yeah, that's black.
Godfrey
Black, yeah. White guys don't talk.
Lord Jamar
His name is James Brown.
Godfrey
Hey, baby. That's a black riff.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
When you go, baby. But that's black singing.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
It just is what it is.
Chuck Nice
Yeah. Yeah.
Godfrey
The only reason why we say it like that, we gotta express it because you have been putting us down so much. But the very thing you're playing is the people you hated are the ones that created it. Because anybody that plays music, you have to go through black people, all of them. They'll all tell you, oh, he started listening to Muddy, Walter Altars, and we start listening to the Temptations and Motel. I watch a lot of rock documentaries. They, you know that new, that new documentary, yacht rock? You know about yacht rock?
Lord Jamar
I know what yacht rock is.
Godfrey
It's just like Michael. You know, Michael McDonald.
Lord Jamar
Yeah.
Godfrey
You know, what a fool. All that Skags, Boss Skaggs, all of that George Benson, all that, like. It's like soft rock, but not too soft, but funky. I'm watching the. Watching it on. It's a great. It's a. A great doc. And I'm watching it. And these guys created this. These. They did these skits about yacht rock. They made it up and they have these captain's hats and they play this music on this boat. And it was just that type of music. Soft rock, but not. But rock, but doesn't rock too hard. And it's right in the middle. And Michael McDonald and Christopher Cross are main people from there. And. And then I'm like waiting. I'm like. I'm waiting for the black part.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
So I'm waiting to go. Basically, we're playing like Black Flag said, I told you. Yeah, yeah, of course you are. That's why we love Michael McDonald because he has a black sound to him.
Chuck Nice
A lot of people didn't even know Michael McDonald was black until I found that out.
Godfrey
They didn't know Billy Caldwell was Bobby Caldwell.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, yeah, that's some of your favorite song. And they, they didn't know hall and Oats.
Godfrey
I. They're from Philly. I read a whole thing about it. There used to be this really good magazine called Wax Poetics. Wp. They got RA about like mus alternative, like underground hip. It was a dope ass magazine I used to get from Barnes. And. No. And I was reading about hall of Notes and they go, we learned all that from the Temptation. They used to Take us on the road. Motown. The Philly sound at Philadelphia. The sound of Philadelphia. Tsop. It was all the Patti LaBelle's and we learned from them. I go, of course you did. Because you. You play like them, right? And. But I don't. What I don't understand is the same people you plur from. You don't like. I don't. That's a weird. That's. That's a disease. That's a psychosis to me. Toni Morrison said it. It best. What are white people without racism? What are you? Are you any good? You're just out there strung out with your little. What are you without it? What. I'm just.
Lord Jamar
What are you, Irish?
Godfrey
I know. You look very Irish, Rory. I was like, yeah.
Chuck Nice
G said, well, you look very.
Godfrey
Yeah, but, but, but the Celtics. The Celtics come from Africa. Celtic. Celtic. Celtics. History is African. If you know about the Celtics. It's African. African. It's. You look it up, really read. Yeah, it's African. So, I mean, but then the story of St. Patrick's Day, that snake thing, had to do with the pygmies. Had to do that. Them getting the pygmies out of that area. I just. And there was an Irish historian that said it. I was like, what? He goes, he didn't drive out the snakes. It was the African pygmies that were there. That's where it came from. So, I mean, a lot of people got a.
Lord Jamar
We tried to change it to getting the British out of. Yeah, but I know the original.
Godfrey
Right.
Lord Jamar
It's the Africans, but we changed it to make it fun.
Godfrey
Yeah. I'm saying Trixies. But the Oompa Loompas in. In Willy Wonka are black slaves. But they change it to green people. Yeah. I just read all this. I just look it up. I go, what the fuck? Yeah. Yeah, man. So it's like the history of us and society.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
Has been. It's been fucked up. So when we talk about our history, it's all. All about you with us.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
And then. But the fact that we create this cold ass called jazz and blues and beboping, gospel and sk. That's. That's some magical to me. And then you profit off of it.
Chuck Nice
Right.
Godfrey
You could at least say thank you. Because they go. Because, like, you know, when you talk about this, people go, you don't like white people. I said, why now? Why are you going to there? Why? You're just uncomfortable. I'm talking to you. Why am I. I don't like white people. I don't like your behavior. It's the behavior I. I judge. Judge people by. There's black people I don't like you talking about.
Chuck Nice
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Godfrey
I judge people. But you're so caught up in not owning up to anything and learning that you're. It's the guilt. You don't like white people, really, Right? Is that what it is?
Chuck Nice
Right?
Godfrey
I go, I shouldn't like you. At least I got reason. At least I got reason to. Not like I really have a reason to. Not with you, but I'm not like that, you know? Yeah, but you don't have a reason to hate us. You just do. You just. I don't know, nowhere. I don't like you. Why? Just don't like you, huh? What kind of sense does that make? Yeah, but you all up in our soup, though. Yeah. Yeah.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
You all up in our soup, though.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, yeah.
Godfrey
And I even said, okay, segregation, that's fine. Well, let's have segregation then. But this time it has to be equal, though. You can't come and burn our towns. You can't come and ride with your sheets and. Yeah, that's. That's. That's a. That day's over. You ain't gonna try that this time.
Chuck Nice
Yeah. No, no, no.
Godfrey
You, you, you. You ain' that's facts. You're not doing that. Yeehaw. Here.
Lord Jamar
Second Amendment exists.
Godfrey
Yeah. Yeah. It's no good when the rap. It's no fun when the rabbit gets the gun and are gunned up.
Chuck Nice
Yeah. That's a fact.
Godfrey
And I. I've seen these videos where everyone's like, man, come now, dog. Yo, man, we ready for all this race. If you ready for that smoke, dog, that's cool.
Lord Jamar
We have switches.
Godfrey
My thing is, like, they talking about race war, but as soon as your mom or your daddy get up, now you going. Gonna be like, wait, stop. Yeah, because you've done too much and people ain't playing with you no more. The rage is different when it's built up. Built up. You don't know what a man is capable of.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
When it's Ray. When you're just hating off of just. When you have real, real rage, and this is years of it, you're dealing with the wrong man. Yeah, you don't understand. People are tired of this kind of behavior. Women are tired of men with their same thing. Women are tired of this. We tired of that. Stop. Yeah, we're. We're sick of it, man.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
And you can see it now. We tired of that. There's rage. I Just hate women. Why? You came from one.
Lord Jamar
I got. I got news for you.
Chuck Nice
It means you're gay.
Godfrey
Right? Right.
Chuck Nice
News for you.
Lord Jamar
I got news for you.
Godfrey
And that's real.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, absolutely.
Godfrey
Like, why do you hate him so much? Why? Yeah, like something's wrong with you. Came from one bro. Like, it's, it's that same thing. Yeah, but don't underestimate them. If they tired of your. That's all I'm saying. I'm just like. You know, I just. That's the thing. I think of it. I always said, when you're a conscious man, you're a doomed man. That's what James Baldwin said. It's like you just. When you. I read so much. I've. Since college, I've always read. And you know, in Chicago, I would go see ministers. The minister, I would go see him live.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
So I was just learning so much and I was around, you know, I had sister soldier come to our school. Stokely Carmichael, Francis Crest, Welson. We had Duba Ben Wahad, who was actual Black Panther member with Afini Shakur.
Chuck Nice
Okay.
Godfrey
He's in the doc. You see the documentary. Tupac, of course. And he's in that. And he came to my college. I. We sat with him. So I was that dude.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
Listening to Public Enemy Care where. It's like all that brand new being.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
Piece of the gods and earths.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
The flat earthers.
Chuck Nice
Yeah. And the flat earthers.
Lord Jamar
Piece of the flat earth is crazy.
Godfrey
But it was like all of that consciousness was like. And I go pro. Blackness doesn't mean anti anything. It means pro. We proud of who we are. Because you have to exaggerate your pride because people are on you every day. And then the, the. The images. Think about the images they show of us. So that's why we're Africans. And blacks would fight because, oh, you guys are lazy. Well, you guys don't have no food. It was media.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
But now you see things are changing. Look at what Ibrahim Trore, the brother from Bina Faso and the Mali, and they've kicked out the French. Like there's some. There's a couple of black leaders that are coming together, going, we're going to have no more taking our anymore because Europe survived. I didn't know that Europe was surviving off of African resource. I. When I was little, I was thinking, wow, they got diamonds. And where did they get all this from? They were stealing from Africa. Yeah, they were stealing.
Lord Jamar
I didn't know the reason the UK is a small ass island.
Godfrey
It's not even a continent. It's a peninsula.
Lord Jamar
Europe is sink in 10 years and.
Godfrey
UK is so tiny. United Kingdom.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Lord Jamar
United with who?
Godfrey
Right, Right. It's like you primitive Africans. The spear is one of the smartest weapons ever, ever, ever invented. You can do everything with the spear BO staff. You can do everything. Hunt, you can do. Walk with it. You can. And we were the primitive ones.
Chuck Nice
Right.
Godfrey
It's like, but, but I understand if you're less, if you're a smaller group of people, how do you control a bigger group of people? You got to find ways to divide and conquer. You got to. It's actually a brilliant. It was brilliant. Brilliant.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
Gotta give him credit for that.
Chuck Nice
Absolutely.
Godfrey
Then you. You mentally them and say you ain't for a long time, and then they start fighting each other.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
And then they want to be like the guys in. It's actually brilliant. I ain't mad. I'm mad, but I ain't mad at it.
Chuck Nice
Yeah. You understand it.
Godfrey
That's the only way. It's like, it's all about capitalism, money, domination. I get it. You know, but at this day and age, like, come on.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, we still still doing that.
Godfrey
We got people like, you know, you probably just your boy. You gonna back him up on anything. Like, this is my man.
Chuck Nice
Right?
Godfrey
You talking about. There's groups like that that grow up. There's. There's white dudes that grown up with nothing but black people that are adopted by black people. That and vice versa is like, nah, this is my man. This is my man. Give a who you are.
Chuck Nice
Right?
Godfrey
You talking about, like, you know what I'm saying? That's the we should be on.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
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Godfrey
Like, I got my. Oh, by the way, I got my. My hour special I'll be doing next week. I want to. Is this coming out tomorrow?
Chuck Nice
Tomorrow?
Godfrey
Next week I will be doing my hour special at the Apollo.
Chuck Nice
Yep.
Godfrey
Finally. Yeah, finally.
Lord Jamar
Which day of the week is it? It's.
Godfrey
It's. What is it today? It's a Thursday. Thursday, June 12th.
Lord Jamar
We'll be back.
Godfrey
There's a 6pm and a 9pm but if you guys want me on list or whatever, I got my producer, Rachel Fraser, who is fantastic. She put this all together, man, like, just. And I had my. I had Shaq call me to kick me like two years ago. He goes, it's time for you to do your special.
Chuck Nice
He's like, I have to.
Godfrey
Let me know how much it is? I said, all right, I'll tell you, Shaq. So he go. And I said, I'm gonna raise some money for myself, though. And I give shout out to the GoFundMe. My fans were like, why don't you do a GoFundMe? I raised some money for that with GoFundMe. Thank you for my fans for doing that. And I said, let me at least contribute, you know? And then I told Shaq. I go. I said, shaq, I'll do Sony hall. It's about 400 to 500 people. He goes, come on, man. Think outside the box. Yeah, Bigger.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
Okay, fine. So we look at King's Theater in Brooklyn. Then we look at the Apollo. That's too big. I was like, the fuck you talking about? How much you gonna cause?
Lord Jamar
So Rachel, the Apollo.
Godfrey
Rachel puts it together. Puts. That's what she does. She's a producer, line producer. She does all that. She knows all the business. So she put down a whole schematic of what? It's the cost, the over everything to detail. Send it to Shaq. No, man, it's too much. And then he sends me his contract of what he did. You know, Shaq All Stars.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
I go, shaq, that's not the same thing. You. You just got a bunch of comics doing 10, 15 minutes. This is a special.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
Has to look right. You. Your looks like you shot it. You go goes, no, that's not true. I was like, dog the man. I go. But Shaq got me off my ass to do it. I gave him that credit. I'm still asking for some kind of money.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Godfrey
What about for a commercial, motherfucker? But he kicked me off. He was like, yo, you gotta. You gotta start. You gotta do your special. And Will I am gave me some money. Like, I didn't ask for it. He gave it to me. He's a fan. Will I am's part of executive producing it. And another brother named Rodrigo, who's just a capital venture capitalist that was a fan of mine.
Lord Jamar
Rodrigo, one name, last name.
Godfrey
Like, my boy said, I don't care if it's coke. I'll just go, yeah, 100, 200, 300. But he's a. He's a businessman who's been a big fan of mine and just really contributed too. I didn't even ask. And then I got a great message. Can I. I play that. Where's my phone? Hey, can you view my phone? Watch this. This is pretty kickass. I like to brag about it, but Hopefully, I won't have to brag and I'll be his friend and it'll just be normal to me. But I had a really nice message left for me for this, and I. And I don't even know him like that, but he's. He's. He's liked my stuff before, and it's a big deal to me. Watch this. Ready? Are you guys ready?
Chuck Nice
Yeah, this is.
Godfrey
Kick ass. I want to play this. Ready? Yo, brother, Jack here. Just checking in with you, man. I just saw your post about. About the Apollo. Dude, it's amazing, man. I know you're going to rock that house, man. Keep doing, doing. Keep doing. Great work, brother. Keep kicking ass. And I'm always supporting you, man, always rooting for you to win. But the Apollo. Come on, man. I love it. All right, dude, Keep killing it. We'll talk soon. Congrats on that. The Rock.
Lord Jamar
Probably in the middle of a squat set. Wow.
Godfrey
Yeah. He's like this. I'm lifting buildings right now.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, yeah.
Godfrey
Just getting more diesel and more rich. Listen.
Lord Jamar
Future President of the United States.
Chuck Nice
Absolutely.
Godfrey
He should be.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, absolutely.
Lord Jamar
It's coming for sure.
Godfrey
The Rock.
Lord Jamar
Ten years. The Rock.
Godfrey
You smell what the Rock's cooking?
Chuck Nice
Yeah, absolutely.
Godfrey
I'm cooking a deficit.
Lord Jamar
Yeah.
Godfrey
We need it. He goes, let me tell you, man, I'm going to go into. I'm going to go into Russia. I'm going go there, tell. I'm not having this. Plain and simple. Everyone's like, yeah, hey, Putin. Do you smell what the rocks cooking here? Like, remember, Remember? Fast and Furious, Toretto. Yeah. You under arrest, Toretto, and that's what's gonna happen. That's not a bad rock.
Lord Jamar
Let me throw you off this train.
Godfrey
I could just see the Rock going, hey, we asked you about the.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
The nuclear situation. Looks like you're gonna get your. You're gonna get up. Don't let me come back here to have to negotiate.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
The Rock is spoken.
Chuck Nice
That's dope, man. That's fire.
Lord Jamar
When the Rock speaks, you're not sure if he hates you or if he's right.
Godfrey
But me, the fact that I thought it was a mistake. I was like, I'm looking. I'm in North Carolina line. I was like, the.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
I was in Raleigh a couple weeks ago. I was like, yo, you see this? The Rock, man? And I was like, wow, that was cool, man.
Chuck Nice
June 12, Apollo.
Godfrey
June 12, man. You go to Ticketmaster or ticket on sale. I think it's tickets on sale. Some. Some other. We can put a link Ticketmaster. Go to Ticketmaster and just. And listen. If you're sensitive, don't come. If you don't like profanity, don't come. All right? If you're open minded, I talk about race, I talk about religion. Just don't come. If you're sensitive. I ain't got time for that. I'm not. I want a nice audience to have fun. No take, don't take nothing personal, but if you don't like my style, do not come in there. All some people will come just to be an. I don't want that. I want the cat.
Lord Jamar
Write a blog because I don't want.
Godfrey
To drop kick you. I'll run off stage and drop. I don't want to drop out you before we let you go, Godfrey.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, we need y' all because they do this all the time on the timeout. The Mount Rushmore. Who is Godfrey? Godfrey's Mount Rushmore's of black comics. Of.
Godfrey
Of comics, period. I'm wearing one.
Chuck Nice
Okay.
Lord Jamar
George Carlin is Carlin.
Godfrey
Well, Prior. Carlin. Mooney. Mooney, yeah. Let's see. Oh, Cosby. Sorry, what you heard. Comedy wise, you just told us that.
Lord Jamar
The women were fed up.
Godfrey
You see, See the people and then see and you got to say Rob. Yeah, and then that's what I did. You see.
Lord Jamar
I'm not even trying to say.
Godfrey
PR's like, man, shut your ass up. Godamn.
Chuck Nice
Is Mike EP still doing the Pride movie?
Godfrey
I don't know. I have no idea.
Chuck Nice
I know he was talking.
Godfrey
I have no idea.
Lord Jamar
I feel like they shot like it's up and down.
Godfrey
I don't know it's in and out because I know they had marlin for it. Then they had Damon Wayans for it. For it. Then they had. But then they had another. A British dude that was supposed to do it. His name was Lenny. Lenny Henry or something. And he did a really good prior.
Lord Jamar
Okay.
Godfrey
Sorry, Jack. God damn. Kiss my ass. This a good man. Man. Suck my dick. Where the cocaine? God damn. You know white people use the that. Cause you don't know, man, these white folks can fight. You can't whoop every white boy ass.
Chuck Nice
Scary how he sounds exactly like Richard Pryor.
Lord Jamar
From Terence Howard to Richard Pryor. Two totally different tones.
Godfrey
I tell you, I get no respect. Crowd. What a crowd. What a crowd. What a crowd.
Chuck Nice
We appreciate you, man.
Godfrey
Did. I did. Name all I said. Prior.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
Carlin Mooney. Oh, yeah, Mooney and Red Fox.
Lord Jamar
Okay.
Godfrey
Yeah. Thank you very much. Thank you. My name is Red Fox. And the one Thing I want to say is wash your ass. You got to wash your ass. Ass. What.
Lord Jamar
What did you think of Quincy Jones's One of his last interviews talking about prior, Marvin Gay, everybody, each other. That was one of the wildest crazy. That was one of the wildest interviews in print history.
Godfrey
There was an E at the Marvin G. I mean Prior. Prior talked about another dude.
Lord Jamar
Yeah.
Godfrey
He's like, mother. Mother. Act like they ain't never. No, that's what he said. He's like, don't want to admit. They don't admit they got some dick in their ass. I ain't never, man. I. The. The was good too. But.
Lord Jamar
We'Re gonna move that to the intro of the episode.
Chuck Nice
Holy.
Godfrey
Like, Carl is like, earth Day. I'm getting tired of that. I'm tired of that, you know? Earth Day.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
You think a couple of plastic bags are gonna save the earth? Yeah.
Lord Jamar
Wait till he sees plastic straws.
Godfrey
And then Paul Mooney's like, oh, you are in trouble, white folks. Hey, be careful. White women cry. Everybody's in jail. Everybody's going to goddamn jail. Oh, you need. He's like, oh, all you house are scared. I don't want to be scared, but I know, I know these white folks don't. With these white folks. I don't trust no white. Nobody white.
Lord Jamar
Was it you that told me you went to a Mooney show and he read the paper? That the entire set.
Chuck Nice
Oh, my God, Hilarious. So I'm at Caroline, and he goes.
Godfrey
Up to three hours. He don't give a God. He goes. He's like, I love when white people leave.
Chuck Nice
That means.
Godfrey
That means I haven't lost my touch. White folks always leave. They don't like the truth. I don't like the. I don't go for the goddamn.
Chuck Nice
Yo, he read the paper.
Godfrey
I think that's.
Lord Jamar
Reading the page. Paper, reading the paper.
Godfrey
People laughing.
Chuck Nice
Of course.
Godfrey
It's so funny. In today's news, white folks kill somebody, are acting a goddamn fool. Mexicans will get deported.
Chuck Nice
Yeah. Legendary.
Godfrey
But. Yeah. And Red. Yeah, those are my. And I love Joan River. I love old school people. But, you know, top five, they go, all right, but I name Mooney, Prior, Cosby, Red Fox. Yeah, those are my. Like, my favorite that I watch still.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
I watch a lot of Scarlet. I watch a lot of Prior. I watch a lot of Mooney. They make me. I just love because there's just the edge and not giving a fuck and keeping it 100. That's my style. That's my style. But Cosby's storytelling. Ain't nobody fucking with him.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, yeah.
Godfrey
Because my wife.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
And she. And then I've so. And it was Dan. Yeah. I watched him in concert. I go, I need to get back to the lab. Good Lord. He did two hours on two jokes about his wife not being his friend. Friend anymore and his best friend. It was just like, what the. Was that Master class?
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
And I thought my wife was my friend and. And my car. And then said, I did. See, I'm not gonna talk to him.
Chuck Nice
Yeah.
Godfrey
It's too bad with all this, but. Yeah.
Lord Jamar
Quite possibly the greatest TV joke of all time was when Cosby was leaving the courthouse and just hit him with one of those.
Godfrey
That. When he did this.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's him. Let you know he's still sharp. He's still like.
Godfrey
That was so funny.
Lord Jamar
That been the funniest I've ever.
Chuck Nice
He's like, yeah, that used to be his. Yeah, absolutely.
Godfrey
He's. What the.
Lord Jamar
Like, doing that coming out of the courtroom off what you're accused of.
Godfrey
And he's like.
Lord Jamar
And then you just hit him with that.
Godfrey
I was like, that was some funny. Because the dude that's watching the video go.
Lord Jamar
He didn't just do that.
Godfrey
I see you.
Chuck Nice
Yeah, absolutely.
Godfrey
Watch out.
Chuck Nice
June 12th, the Apollo Theater. Godfrey.
Godfrey
Oh, my Instagram.
Chuck Nice
On your Instagram.
Godfrey
It's a Godfrey comic. Is my Instagram. And again, gave me my. My Tik Tok back.
Chuck Nice
Okay.
Godfrey
Because they banned me. Godfrey funny is my Tik Tok. You know, that's it. All right, well, listen, my podcast is in Godfrey we trust in Godfrey we trust On Gas Digital Network Tuesdays, one.
Lord Jamar
Of my favorite podcasts. Even you guys aren't talking about.
Chuck Nice
Absolutely.
Lord Jamar
I was tapped. I didn't just go for the flat earth. I was tapped.
Godfrey
I didn't know I was. You know, sometimes they don't really tell you numbers and you'd be like, they.
Lord Jamar
Don'T specifically say, Rory's watching. I know, I know.
Godfrey
Rory. Oh, that's my boy, Rory.
Lord Jamar
That's my new drop.
Godfrey
I love me some Rory. Bring on the Rory, Irishman.
Chuck Nice
I love Godfrey. Thank you, bro.
Godfrey
You got it. I can't wait to come back. Great new worry.
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Podcast Summary: Episode 377 | Cosmic C*nts
Podcast Information:
In Episode 377 of "New Rory & MAL," titled "Cosmic C*nts," hosts Godfrey, Lord Jamar, and Chuck Nice delve into a spirited discussion on various topics, ranging from conspiracy theories and flat Earth debates to the significance of black comedians in the entertainment industry. The episode is marked by candid conversations, humor, and insightful commentary on societal issues.
The episode kicks off with a deep dive into the controversial topic of the flat Earth theory. The hosts share their personal experiences and perspectives on why some individuals continue to believe in a flat Earth despite overwhelming scientific evidence to the contrary.
Godfrey expresses his skepticism:
"Y' all seen what's up with you and Jamal in the Flat Earthers? What's going on with the Flat Earthers? Don't make no sense." [03:53]
Lord Jamar adds his stance:
"I'm a huge conspiracy theorist. They accused me of being a flat Earther for a long." [09:51]
Chuck Nice recounts an interesting interaction:
"This originally was a Zoom episode. We was gonna have Godfrey on Zoom. And I came in here, I'm like, yo, I think Godfrey lives in Manhattan. Why are we zooming?" [04:20]
The conversation touches upon a debate between Professor Dave, a science communicator, and a flat Earth proponent. The hosts critique the flat Earth argument, emphasizing the importance of scientific literacy and evidence-based reasoning.
Godfrey criticizes the flat Earth proponent's understanding of gravity:
"It's gravity, dumbass." [08:40]
Lord Jamar highlights the dismissive nature of some debaters:
"Somebody from New Rochelle, he's gonna piss off." [08:48]
The hosts discuss the flawed logic behind flat Earth claims and the broader implications of conspiracy theories stemming from widespread mistrust in institutions.
A significant portion of the episode celebrates the contribution of black comedians to the entertainment industry. The hosts highlight influential figures and pivotal shows that have shaped comedy over the decades.
Godfrey reflects on his roots in Chicago's comedy scene:
"We were coming up during the Def Jam times... Under Bernie Mac's club." [34:25]
Lord Jamar emphasizes the importance of shows like "In Living Color":
"In Living Color was like, yo, what the fuck?" [45:17]
The conversation underscores the challenges black comedians faced in predominantly white institutions and how shows like "In Living Color" provided a platform for diverse voices.
Godfrey praises Eddie Murphy's impact on "Saturday Night Live":
"Eddie Murphy brought it to number one, period." [43:05]
Lord Jamar nods to the influence of key comedians:
"You've got a lot of great ones... like Mary Gross, Molly Shannon." [30:06]
The hosts also discuss the crossover skills of comedians into acting, citing examples like Robin Williams and Richard Pryor, and the unique capability of comedians to infuse comedy with deep emotional truths.
The episode transitions into a profound discussion about race relations, historical narratives, and the pervasive influence of black culture globally.
Godfrey critiques media portrayals:
"They purposely bordered off African countries so Africans couldn't meet each other." [65:02]
He highlights the significant yet often unacknowledged contributions of African Americans:
"Denim jeans are a black invention... the elevator, the escalator... Black inventions." [68:18]
The hosts explore the impact of black culture worldwide, noting its adoption and adaptation across different societies:
"Every country I see, they're rapping... They were hooping full courts." [58:40]
The conversation delves into the commercialization and appropriation of black culture, stressing the importance of recognizing and honoring its origins.
Godfrey asserts:
"Black culture is the best culture on the planet." [55:15]
Lord Jamar echoes the sentiment, highlighting global influences like K-pop:
"All the K-pop girl groups are acting like black." [59:08]
The hosts also touch upon systemic issues such as segregation, economic exploitation, and the erasure of black contributions from mainstream history.
Towards the end of the episode, the hosts address modern societal challenges, including racial tensions and the importance of understanding history to navigate present-day issues.
Godfrey emphasizes the necessity of historical awareness:
"You have to know history to assess how A is now." [70:09]
He criticizes ongoing racial stereotypes and urges for genuine cultural appreciation:
"Black people are the most famous race because we run rent free in everybody's head." [55:31]
The episode concludes with the hosts promoting upcoming events and their own projects, maintaining the episode's lively and engaging tone.
Godfrey announces his upcoming hour special:
"Next week I will be doing my hour special at the Apollo." [84:34]
Lord Jamar and Chuck Nice express support and enthusiasm for the hosts' endeavors.
Godfrey on flat Earth skepticism:
"It's gravity, dumbass." [08:40]
Lord Jamar on conspiracy theories:
"I'm a huge conspiracy theorist." [09:51]
Godfrey on black culture's global impact:
"Black culture is the best culture on the planet." [55:15]
Godfrey on the importance of knowing history:
"You have to know history to assess how A is now." [70:09]
Episode 377 of "New Rory & MAL" offers a rich tapestry of discussions that weave together themes of skepticism, cultural pride, and the enduring influence of black comedians and culture. Through candid dialogue and poignant reflections, the hosts challenge listeners to critically evaluate societal narratives and recognize the profound contributions of marginalized communities. Whether debating flat Earth theories or celebrating the legacy of iconic comedians, the episode delivers both humor and meaningful insights, making it a compelling listen for those seeking depth and authenticity in contemporary podcasting.