Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL Episode 381 | So Be It
Release Date: June 20, 2025
Hosts: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

Introduction

The episode kicks off with a brief exchange among the hosts, briefly touching on various advertisements and setting a casual, conversational tone. The hosts quickly transition from the initial banter to diving into more substantial topics.

Main Topic: Pusha T's Diss of Travis Scott

Background and Initial Perceptions

The conversation centers around the recent feud between Pusha T and Travis Scott, sparked by Pusha T's diss track "So Be It." Initially, Host 2 believed Pusha T was targeting Kanye West but soon realized the diss was directed at Travis Scott.

• Quote (08:15)
  Host 2: "I thought Pusha T was dissing Kanye West just out the gate, and I thought he was just using Utopia because Travis's man."

Studio Disruption and Its Impact

Host 3 provides context about Travis Scott's disruptive behavior during studio sessions, which culminated in Pusha T's strong response.

• Quote (10:39)
  Host 3: "Pharrell's face was like, yo, get out of my studio."

This disruption led to a rift between Pusha T and Travis Scott, with Pusha T feeling disrespected and using his music as a platform to voice his grievances.

• Quote (08:48)
  Host 2: "You cried in front of me. You died in front of me."

Analysis of the Diss Track

The hosts dissect the lyrics and visual elements of "So Be It," discussing how the diss aligns with hip hop's tradition of addressing conflicts through music rather than social media.

• Quote (13:54)
  Host 3: "If you put it in the music, cool. But if you're not putting the music in, you just addressing your issues with rappers on podcasts or IG Live, it's like, come on, bro, get in the booth."

Implications for the Hip Hop Community

The discussion extends to the broader implications of such feuds within the hip hop community, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and direct communication through music.

• Quote (14:48)
  Host 3: "So, yeah, I respect it, man. If you got an issue with somebody in rap, right?"

Personal Anecdotes and Stories

Damaris's Megan Thee Stallion Party Story

Damaris shares a personal story about waiting outside a Megan Thee Stallion party in 2019, which turned out to be a simulated event.

• Quote (02:50)
  Damaris: "I told y' all how Rory had me waiting outside a party to try to get in a Megan Thee Stallion party..."

This story serves as a segue into discussions about authenticity and expectations in various aspects of life.

Juneteenth Celebrations and Confusion

The hosts delve into a conversation about Juneteenth, with some expressing confusion over its official recognition and personal significance.

• Quote (05:57)
  Damaris: "I've been celebrating Juneteenth since I was five years old..."

This leads to a broader discussion on cultural recognition and personal experiences of the holiday.

Relationship Dynamics and Heartbreak

Handling Breakups and Emotional Intelligence

A substantial portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing relationship dynamics, heartbreak, and the importance of emotional intelligence in navigating personal relationships.

• Quote (80:11)
  Host 1: "It's time. And then you got to get to that point where you start breaking down your partner, like, bitch, you really ugly."

The hosts explore how personal experiences shape their views on relationships, emphasizing the need for respect and genuine communication.

Advice on Overcoming Heartbreak

Listeners submit questions about overcoming heartbreak, and the hosts provide thoughtful advice on the healing process, highlighting that time and self-care are crucial.

• Quote (80:39)
  Host 1: "I think it can take years to get over a real heartbreak."

Navigating Personal Growth Amid Public Life

Host 1 shares insights on maintaining authenticity and personal growth while managing a public persona, stressing the importance of being genuine both on and off the microphone.

• Quote (83:10)
  Host 1: "So, you have to be really gentle with yourself, too, because we want to go outside. But that's a part of the grieving process."

Cultural Observations and Miscellaneous Topics

Staten Island Anecdotes

The hosts reminisce about Staten Island, sharing personal experiences and dispelling common misconceptions about the neighborhood.

• Quote (42:09)
  Host 1: "But it's also like the best non tourist ride. You go by Statue of Liberty."

Podcasting vs. Sports Broadcasting

A discussion unfolds comparing the nuances and challenges of podcasting with sports broadcasting, emphasizing the need for flexibility and authenticity in engaging with diverse topics.

• Quote (70:30)
  Host 1: "People want to come and get what they've come for. You want to go to the restaurant and order."

Conclusion

The episode wraps up with a reflection on the importance of authenticity, respect, and emotional intelligence in both personal relationships and the broader hip hop community. The hosts emphasize the value of addressing conflicts directly through meaningful conversations and music rather than superficial means.

Notable Quotes Recap

• Host 2 (08:34): "So, yeah, I think Drake had every right to do that. So that's where I do feel Pusha on this entire thing."
• Host 1 (74:10): "No, it's not. It's the same reason why people were not happy when it changed."
• Damaris (05:57): "I've been celebrating Juneteenth since I was five years old..."
• Host 3 (13:54): "If you put it in the music, cool. But if you're not putting the music in, you just addressing your issues with rappers on podcasts or IG Live, it's like, come on, bro, get in the booth."

This episode of "New Rory & MAL" provides an in-depth look at current events in the hip hop scene, personal growth, and the intricacies of maintaining genuine relationships amidst public scrutiny. The hosts offer valuable insights, grounded in personal experiences and a deep understanding of the cultural landscape.