Episode 381 | So Be It

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL Episode 381 | So Be It
Release Date: June 20, 2025
Hosts: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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Introduction

The episode kicks off with a brief exchange among the hosts, briefly touching on various advertisements and setting a casual, conversational tone. The hosts quickly transition from the initial banter to diving into more substantial topics.

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Main Topic: Pusha T's Diss of Travis Scott

Background and Initial Perceptions

The conversation centers around the recent feud between Pusha T and Travis Scott, sparked by Pusha T's diss track "So Be It." Initially, Host 2 believed Pusha T was targeting Kanye West but soon realized the diss was directed at Travis Scott.

• Quote (08:15)
  Host 2: "I thought Pusha T was dissing Kanye West just out the gate, and I thought he was just using Utopia because Travis's man."

Studio Disruption and Its Impact

Host 3 provides context about Travis Scott's disruptive behavior during studio sessions, which culminated in Pusha T's strong response.

• Quote (10:39)
  Host 3: "Pharrell's face was like, yo, get out of my studio."

This disruption led to a rift between Pusha T and Travis Scott, with Pusha T feeling disrespected and using his music as a platform to voice his grievances.

• Quote (08:48)
  Host 2: "You cried in front of me. You died in front of me."

Analysis of the Diss Track

The hosts dissect the lyrics and visual elements of "So Be It," discussing how the diss aligns with hip hop's tradition of addressing conflicts through music rather than social media.

• Quote (13:54)
  Host 3: "If you put it in the music, cool. But if you're not putting the music in, you just addressing your issues with rappers on podcasts or IG Live, it's like, come on, bro, get in the booth."

Implications for the Hip Hop Community

The discussion extends to the broader implications of such feuds within the hip hop community, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and direct communication through music.

• Quote (14:48)
  Host 3: "So, yeah, I respect it, man. If you got an issue with somebody in rap, right?"

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Personal Anecdotes and Stories

Damaris's Megan Thee Stallion Party Story

Damaris shares a personal story about waiting outside a Megan Thee Stallion party in 2019, which turned out to be a simulated event.

• Quote (02:50)
  Damaris: "I told y' all how Rory had me waiting outside a party to try to get in a Megan Thee Stallion party..."

This story serves as a segue into discussions about authenticity and expectations in various aspects of life.

Juneteenth Celebrations and Confusion

The hosts delve into a conversation about Juneteenth, with some expressing confusion over its official recognition and personal significance.

• Quote (05:57)
  Damaris: "I've been celebrating Juneteenth since I was five years old..."

This leads to a broader discussion on cultural recognition and personal experiences of the holiday.

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Relationship Dynamics and Heartbreak

Handling Breakups and Emotional Intelligence

A substantial portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing relationship dynamics, heartbreak, and the importance of emotional intelligence in navigating personal relationships.

• Quote (80:11)
  Host 1: "It's time. And then you got to get to that point where you start breaking down your partner, like, bitch, you really ugly."

The hosts explore how personal experiences shape their views on relationships, emphasizing the need for respect and genuine communication.

Advice on Overcoming Heartbreak

Listeners submit questions about overcoming heartbreak, and the hosts provide thoughtful advice on the healing process, highlighting that time and self-care are crucial.

• Quote (80:39)
  Host 1: "I think it can take years to get over a real heartbreak."

Navigating Personal Growth Amid Public Life

Host 1 shares insights on maintaining authenticity and personal growth while managing a public persona, stressing the importance of being genuine both on and off the microphone.

• Quote (83:10)
  Host 1: "So, you have to be really gentle with yourself, too, because we want to go outside. But that's a part of the grieving process."

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Cultural Observations and Miscellaneous Topics

Staten Island Anecdotes

The hosts reminisce about Staten Island, sharing personal experiences and dispelling common misconceptions about the neighborhood.

• Quote (42:09)
  Host 1: "But it's also like the best non tourist ride. You go by Statue of Liberty."

Podcasting vs. Sports Broadcasting

A discussion unfolds comparing the nuances and challenges of podcasting with sports broadcasting, emphasizing the need for flexibility and authenticity in engaging with diverse topics.

• Quote (70:30)
  Host 1: "People want to come and get what they've come for. You want to go to the restaurant and order."

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Conclusion

The episode wraps up with a reflection on the importance of authenticity, respect, and emotional intelligence in both personal relationships and the broader hip hop community. The hosts emphasize the value of addressing conflicts directly through meaningful conversations and music rather than superficial means.

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Notable Quotes Recap

• Host 2 (08:34): "So, yeah, I think Drake had every right to do that. So that's where I do feel Pusha on this entire thing."
• Host 1 (74:10): "No, it's not. It's the same reason why people were not happy when it changed."
• Damaris (05:57): "I've been celebrating Juneteenth since I was five years old..."
• Host 3 (13:54): "If you put it in the music, cool. But if you're not putting the music in, you just addressing your issues with rappers on podcasts or IG Live, it's like, come on, bro, get in the booth."

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This episode of "New Rory & MAL" provides an in-depth look at current events in the hip hop scene, personal growth, and the intricacies of maintaining genuine relationships amidst public scrutiny. The hosts offer valuable insights, grounded in personal experiences and a deep understanding of the cultural landscape.

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[Host 2]

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[Host 3]

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[Damaris]

I told y' all how Rory had me waiting outside a party to try to get in a Megan Thee stallion party, too. Wait, have you waiting outside?

[Host 2]

It's about to be a repeat of a palooza story.

[Damaris]

No, you had me waiting. No, I always bought my palooza tickets. Anyway, it was a Megan Thee stallion party that he was supposed to meet me at that he decided he wasn't gonna go and told me to just use his name, and I used his name, and they said, we don't know who the Aurora Farrell is. So I got all dressed up to go to a Megan Thee stallion pop up and couldn't get in. Heartbroken.

[Host 2]

Where was this?

[Damaris]

This was like 2019. It was at the Chinese pre pandemic. It was like the Chinese.

[Host 2]

That never even happened. That was a simulation. The world started after 2020.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you know, that whatever Chinese theater or Chinese restaurant that's, like, had people have stuff in something China.

[Host 2]

Oh, the one in Chinatown?

[Damaris]

I think so. Yeah.

[Host 2]

Okay, I don't remember that at all, but I'm sure you don't. I mean, I think I know the restaurant you're talking about.

[Damaris]

I'm sure. I'm sure you don't. Megan was in there, and I could have met her. And you dropped the ball on me.

[Host 2]

If somebody told my name is on the list that I trust, I'm just gonna assume it's there and use my name. And if they say to do that, like, maybe you just didn't say it correctly.

[Host 3]

But when you say you could have met Meg, what that mean? Like, you was gonna just walk up to her?

[Damaris]

No, it was like one of those close, like, intimate. When she was doing the hot girl. The hot girl, like, pop up party.

[Host 3]

She was, like, walking around.

[Damaris]

She was. Yeah, she was, like, dancing with her fans and stuff like that. This was back. Like I said, this was back 2019.

[Host 3]

Oh, yeah.

[Damaris]

So it was a little bit different.

[Host 3]

She was still doing, like, promo. Yeah, she wasn't, like, selling out arenas yet.

[Host 2]

But then, I mean, if you think about it.

[Host 3]

Oh, what she 2019?

[Damaris]

I don't think she was selling on arenas yet. No, she could have, but I don't know.

[Host 2]

But, you know, Damaris is. Is charming towards women. That could have been some butterfly effect. Like, what if they hit it off that night and then Damaris ended up in that car and the car that.

[Damaris]

The was complaining that they was eating coochia.

[Host 2]

No, no, no.

[Host 3]

That was probably that night.

[Host 2]

The one with gun residue in It.

[Host 1]

Oh.

[Damaris]

Oh my God. Why would you. What's.

[Host 2]

I saved your life.

[Host 3]

No, but that was in LA though. That wasn't.

[Host 2]

I'm saying they could have hit it off and she could have been the. The new Kelsey. Like.

[Damaris]

Yeah, okay, let's.

[Host 1]

No.

[Damaris]

Hi, everybody. Welcome to New Warrior Mall.

[Host 2]

So we're glad to joke about it.

[Host 3]

Oh, listen, I love it. I'm here for it.

[Damaris]

Welcome to New Orlean Mall, guys. How are you? Happy Juneteenth.

[Host 3]

Happy Juneteenth. They got me working. I got a Nat Turner.

[Host 2]

You mean you have you working?

[Damaris]

You have you working?

[Host 3]

Sojourner Truth. Harriet. They still got me out. They still got me out here. Working man. Still got to pay the meters. All right, parking.

[Host 2]

Wait, did I just pay the meter? I shouldn't add because the banks are closed off.

[Host 3]

The banks is closed, Then I don't think you gotta pay.

[Host 2]

And I found parking really easily today, so. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah, because no one's at work.

[Host 2]

Well, here's the thing. I didn't even know because it just became a national holiday. I know. Pardon my white face, but like, banks closed as of this year, right? Or last year?

[Host 3]

No, I think it was probably this. Probably the first year. I don't think closed Juneteenth last year. And I don't think so I could be wrong.

[Host 2]

Listen, they. They texted us at 9pm that there was no daycare today. Like all of us had the day off or some.

[Host 3]

So everything probably went into effect last night, right?

[Host 2]

At 9pm they was like end of.

[Host 3]

The work day yesterday. There was like.

[Host 2]

They decided.

[Host 3]

They were closed last year.

[Host 2]

Okay, well, happy Juneteenth.

[Host 3]

I always thought Juneteenth was just like a social 2021.

[Damaris]

It's been a. It's been a. Why would you think it was a social media holiday when you said that in a group chat? I just kind of like looked at it.

[Host 2]

It would have been worse if I said that.

[Damaris]

So in shame.

[Host 3]

It is just a social media holiday. As far as you don't feel Juneteenth.

[Host 2]

Well, this is the second year you don't feel Juneteenth.

[Host 3]

We didn't even know the banks was.

[Host 2]

Closed last year because it just happened.

[Damaris]

They didn't know.

[Host 3]

2021.

[Damaris]

I've been celebrating Juneteenth since I was five years old. I used to dance at.

[Host 2]

I'm not saying it started like recognized by the United States as a date.

[Damaris]

No, that I understand.

[Host 2]

Day off.

[Damaris]

That started on 20.

[Host 3]

Okay, so that's what I'm saying.

[Damaris]

You can't say you didn't fit. Feel Juneteenth like that. No. Like, black people who celebrate, like, came up celebrating Juneteenth. Like, I had. I danced at Juneteenth festivals growing up. Like, Juneteenth has always been a thing within our community. White people didn't recognize it, but we did. So that's why when you said you didn't feel. And I'm like, that just must be like a New York City thing.

[Host 3]

Possibly, probably.

[Damaris]

But in the south, that's a. That's a. That's a real holiday.

[Host 3]

Oh, I'm saying I can't speak for the South. I'm never speaking for the South. I'm speaking for five boroughs, New York City.

[Host 2]

But yes, we are back. End of the week.

[Host 3]

Yes.

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[Host 3]

Over overnight.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Well, did a lot of stuff happen last night?

[Host 3]

I don't know. I like waking up.

[Host 2]

It's been a few days.

[Host 3]

I like waking up and just like, hearing like, the. That happened when I wasn't on social media, like, the night.

[Host 2]

Well, I feel like this has been going on for quite some time. It's just, you know, is going to continue as rap continues.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Travis Scott vs. Pusha T. When the clips put out, so Be It. I felt like a hip hop novice, cuz at the end of so Be it, which I think is incredible, by the way. I think the clips are two for two. The visual is incredible as well. I thought Pusha T was dissing Kanye west just out the gate, and I thought he was just using Utopia because Travis's man. Like, I just thought that was a wordplay thing. And then the timeline started debating, and I was like, well, that'd be weird if he would just diss Travis Scott, like. And first of all, I'm a hip hop nerd. It's gotta be about Kanye. And then within 15 minutes, Pusha T was like, nah, I was directly about Travis Scott. I wasn't talking about Kanye west at all.

[Host 3]

Well, Kanye caught a little bar, maybe.

[Host 2]

Yeah. But he. I mean, he caught one on the first one as well with trumpets. Like, Pusha T has been continuing walls to get his juice fix in.

[Host 3]

Thank you, Josh. This is like my. My spinach.

[Host 2]

No, it is spinach.

[Damaris]

No. Yeah, it's like, literally, spinach definitely is.

[Host 2]

So, yeah. The exact bar at the end of so be. It was. You cried in front of me. You died in front of me Calabasas took your and your pride in front of me her utopia had moved right up the street and her lip gloss was popping she ain't need you to eat.

[Host 3]

What does any of that shit mean?

[Damaris]

Well, we can. We can break it down, Josh, pull that up.

[Host 2]

Pull the lyrics up the net Gonna call it the way they see it but I got the video I can share and AE it They wouldn't believe it but I can't unsee it Luckily I ain't tmz it so be it. So be it. All right, so we want to start right here. Do we want to start in the timeline of why the Pusha T is dissing a non rapper?

[Host 3]

Yeah, sure.

[Host 2]

This goes back at the end of the day, Bape may be the greatest fashion brand of all time, to the chaos that it has caused hip hop.

[Host 3]

Bape.

[Host 2]

I think bape has caused more chaos in hip hop than maybe Ronald Reagan did at this point.

[Damaris]

Yeah, What?

[Host 2]

This all goes back to a fucking bape hoodie and some bape sneakers. This all goes back to clips, Birdman, Lil Wayne, which again, I don't want to go in super detail because we did that when we had to explain the Pusha T and Drake beef, Right? But it all started there. Everything trickled down that got to pushing Drake. We saw where that ended up, which I still think has something sort of to do with the Kendrick and 20 v 1. I still think it. It derives.

[Host 3]

It's all tied in, I think.

[Host 2]

So Push goes on. I forgot was the New York Times. He goes to explain after so Be it that Travis Scott barged into the middle of a clip session with Pharrell. You know, similar to what I do in sessions, just. Just pretend to be a fly on the wall and then just over overtake everything and ruin the entire vibe. So he goes in there to play Utopia for Pharrell, plays every song, even plays Meltdown, just without the Drake verse. There is footage which I guess was from like the Utopia doc or something, which of course they clipped to make it look funny. But Pharrell's face was like, yo, get the out of my studio. He was just bopping his head like.

[Host 3]

So we don't think Pharrell was feeling Utopia.

[Host 2]

He probably was. He probably was. Okay, so he doesn't play the Meltdown verse that Drake has leaves the studio after ruining their session uninvited. And then we hear Meltdown where Drake is clearly dissing Pharrell, which again, I think is kind of fine because you're affiliated With Push. Like, I just think if your man's a standing there, sometimes anybody could kind of get it. Which Push found to be disrespectful on Travis's behalf. Yeah.

[Host 3]

For not playing.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Don't come in here, ask for Pharrell's co sign. Pharrell let you film, interrupt our entire session, and then let somebody diss him the next week on the very song that you played him. I can see somebody feeling away about that.

[Host 3]

Was Pusha dissed on mellow, sort of.

[Host 2]

Like within the Pharrell bars.

[Host 3]

I can't remember that.

[Host 2]

It was something, you know, melting down his legacy and, you know, all that entire shit which he continued on to do in family matters. But with that said, I don't think Push is wrong, per se, for it. I just think it's a little random.

[Host 3]

So Push is mad that Travis has a verse on his album where Drake is dissing Pharrell.

[Host 2]

Yes. And he is mad that he continues to play the middle ground. Because to push his credit, he even went on there and said he thought it was nasty when Travis was hyping up like that, which we all saw and we covered on this podcast. Everyone saw that clip. We thought it was weird too. Like, it's your man. It's like, what the fuck? And Push is saying, you not even a rapper, so why are you hyping up beef? You claim to be neutral and be on both sides, but now you hyping up to, like, that record, which is honestly dissing somebody. Push hate. So I give Push the credit on that. Like, you look goofy doing that too. Then you look goofy coming in the studio playing some that is going to diss this guy the next week. Even though we know that. I think Drake did that record, like, the night before. But you're not going to step in. Like, I was just with Pharrell. Like, don't do that on my record.

[Host 3]

Yeah, because we've seen artists before where they be like, nah, I can't. Like, come on. That's my man. I can't put that verse on my album.

[Host 2]

And we can't be hypocrites because when Drake put out push ups and was throwing shots at Future, I understood it. Future didn't diss Drake on like that. But you sitting there harmonizing with somebody that is.

[Host 3]

Yeah. And it's on your back.

[Host 2]

Yeah. So, yeah, I think Drake had every right to do that. So that's where I do feel pushed on this entire thing.

[Host 3]

Like, yeah, I'm not mad at what Pusha is saying. I'M not mad at his stance on things. Obviously, I understand it. Like, you know, these are rappers we talking about. Travis is not a rapper. He's not about to bar nobody down. He makes no big songs and things like that. Has a great live performance. But, you know, rappers. This was Push us talking about the rappers, the guys that really can construct these bars and really, you know, go at each other like, you know, I could see him feeling away. I just don't want. Because I kind of feel like now I like the fact that Push is addressing shit on wax. Let me put that. And first of all, I would rather him be addressing it on wax than to be going live. The corny lot some rappers to go live, start tweeting like, that stuff is.

[Host 2]

Fine if you're also rapping.

[Host 3]

If you put it in the music, cool. But if you not putting the music in, you just addressing your issues with rappers on podcasts or IG Live, or it's like, come on, bro, get in the booth. So I salute Pusha for getting the booth and. And airing out and, you know, expressing his feelings. That's what this is about. That's what hip hop is for, is to get your shit off, talk your shit. If you got something to say, say it, stand on it. So I respect Pusha for that. My thing is, I don't want Pusha to fall into this box to where it looks like beef or issues are part of his rollout for his album.

[Host 2]

See, but to me, that I don't.

[Host 3]

Want to fall into that is all. Because even with this Travis shit, right, I see more people talking about him dissing Travis than the song or the video being as dope as it is.

[Host 2]

But that that's how it's always gonna.

[Host 3]

Go, no matter what.

[Host 2]

But there's also a large community, I feel, on the timeline that are just talking about how great Ace Trumpets is and also Beat is and how excited they are about this album, how great the rollout has been. But to say that would Push, like, when was. Lord willing, when was the first clips album?

[Host 3]

2000. Like, yeah, 2003, maybe.

[Host 2]

Yeah, 2000. Two.

[Host 3]

Two.

[Damaris]

Damn.

[Host 2]

For the last.

[Host 3]

Yeah, you was a jit, baby, dude. You was outside eating pickles and Kool Aid. That's what you was on.

[Host 1]

I'm not that ghetto.

[Damaris]

That's crazy.

[Host 3]

Barefoot.

[Host 1]

So go ahead, Rory.

[Damaris]

23 years.

[Host 2]

Okay. I can definitely say for Daytona with infrared, it had he threw a little shot at the end on the outro. I wouldn't say it was part of the rollout, but, yes, it definitely got some attention. Then Drake ended up replying and then we went down that rabbit hole. But I wouldn't say that was the main focus of his rollout. It's almost dry. I guess there was a few shots here and there, but I didn't think the rollout at all was around that. Matter of fact, the Daytona rollout was the Kanye 7 track. Like nobody was even really thinking about beef for that. They were excited for what Kanye was marketing.

[Host 3]

No, no, I'm not saying. I'm saying something that pushes always done.

[Host 2]

But I see a lot of people saying that like, oh, here goes push again doing the clout Chasey to get attention. I'm like, dog, since 2002, he's done this like once or twice. This isn't really a push thing, per se. And some of our favorite rappers. 50s rollout was. Was punching down on every.

[Host 3]

I mean, but you can't.

[Host 2]

50 is HOV did it like, this is hip hop.

[Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, but that's this new generation.

[Host 2]

That thinks it's corny to make dissing other rappers part of a rollout when it's been that way since 1988.

[Host 3]

No, it's. It's. Listen, Beef. And hip hop has always been the first hip hop record. Might have been a diss record. Really. Go back and listen.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

And dissect those bars. They might have been talking about some niggas from up the block. So we know that. But what I'm saying is because now my thing is if, if, if Travis responds on his next album. Right.

[Host 2]

God.

[Host 3]

I'm just saying I don't want to hear it. I don't, I don't want to hear. I don't want to hear Travis.

[Host 2]

I don't want to hear you. Listen, man, I don't care if Sci High pins the. I think, I think, I think Travis is a. I don't want to hear it.

[Host 3]

Travis is a great entertainer, has great records, great musician. One of the best live shows that you probably will see. Love his merch, his sneakers. He's doing a lot of great. But when it comes to just rapping, I don't want to just hear. I don't want to hear Travis going in, trying to bar Pusha T down. I don't want to hear that. I'm not here for that. But if he responds in a Travis way in the middle of a song somewhere where, you know, niggas is mosh pitting and it's, you know, fuck Pusha, fuck Pusha. Fuck Pusha on some rock shit. I Don't know. However he want to do it, I.

[Host 2]

Could see that happening.

[Host 3]

But then now does Pusha on the next project? What is he doing? Is he. Is he back to. Is he flaming Travis up on the next album? You get what I'm saying? So that's what I'm saying.

[Host 2]

I don't want to be the next album. You might just get a response record out the gate.

[Host 3]

But that's what I'm saying. I just don't want it to fall into that. I love the video is amazing. You know, that's what the clips have always done, has given us great visuals and things like that. So this is right on brand for the clips. But yeah, I respect it, man. If you got an issue with somebody in rap, right?

[Host 2]

And I saw a lot of people like, yo, that's. That's corny because, like, everyone knows Travis doesn't even rap like that. Since when can a rapper not rap about that happened if it wasn't rappers? Like, it has to be a lyrical rapper that you just explain a situation at. I've heard rappers talk about girls. They. What? That girl can't rap. Did a whole verse about her. All she can do is reply on Twitter.

[Host 3]

Yeah, I don't think.

[Host 2]

Does that make them pussy? No. Like, this is.

[Host 3]

No, I don't think that Pusha did this thinking it would turn into a back and forth. Like, I think he just has something to say and he wanted to address it.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

And he addressed it through the music, and I respect that. I always respect when the rappers rap and. And get on the song or get in the booth and get they shit off. Like, as long as you not just on social media and on podcasts talking about the rappers, it's like, cool. Give us the music. Do it through the music. That's what hip hop is for. Well, that's one of the things that hip hop is for. But I respect him and I'm not mad at this at all.

[Host 2]

Do we think we get. Well, I don't know, because does Drake even like Travis Scott right now? That's what happens when you get in the middle like that. Like, then everyone just hates you. So, like I was about to say, do we get a Travis and Drake record where it's a hit, but they are sending shots like. Which they've done in the past. That has been incredible.

[Host 3]

I don't think we get a Travis and Drake record ever again. I don't think that happens. Me, personally, I don't. I don't know for sure, but I don't I mean, after what he. What Travis did, I don't see.

[Host 2]

I would look at that goofy and weird.

[Host 3]

Yeah, I. I don't see that happening.

[Host 2]

So here's the thing. I don't know much about the Kardashian gossip and I'm not going to pretend to. I'm actually happy and proud of you. And you know what? I could have done the research, but I don't want to. Good, good.

[Host 3]

Your life is much better.

[Host 2]

I hope all the POD fans go, you know what? Glad you didn't research that one. But he is in fact Push a T for sure. Because the timeline is going to find that out off one bar. Because I thought it was clever with the Share A and E thing with Amber Rosa's baby. Mother dated Share baby father baby. Listen, who know? Who knows? Who knows at this point? Yeah, there was a fight. People are sharing chicks. I don't know what goes up in them nasty ass hills.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they're saying that. That AE Share's boyfriend, who used to be Amber's boyfriend, got into a fight with Travis and apparently beat Travis up. That's what it said that he lost.

[Host 2]

And Push is alluding that he has. See, this is where that he has the video.

[Host 3]

This is what Push reminds us that he, you know, he's still very clever. I can share and AE it and.

[Host 2]

A and E does.

[Host 3]

Yeah, you know, AE is Cher's boyfriend. All right, Push. One score for Push.

[Host 1]

I can name either.

[Host 2]

Put it on tv.

[Host 3]

I like that. See how hip hop can be clever? I like that.

[Host 2]

But I love Push said this about, I think Kanye a few weeks ago too, after the ace of trumpets roll out when he said, but I can't unsee it. The shit people do in front of Pusha T that discuss him should be studied. I feel like Push just walks around and he's just like, ugh, ugh.

[Damaris]

Just like that.

[Host 3]

Just like that. But see, I love. You know why I love it though? Because Push is like me. We at that get off my lawn era in our life where it's like, we came up in this shit now. We just discussed it like, yo, look at you. Little dirty. Get outta here. Don't talk to me. Get away from me. Like, shut up. Sometimes you gotta tell. Yo, shut up, man. Like, I don't care that you lit and you sold the money. Shut up.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Cause that's what this is. As far as Pusha's concerned, Travis is lit. Travis is more popular than Pusha T. You know, more successful as far as numbers than Pusha T. All of that. Pusha don't give a fuck about none of that. Shut up.

[Host 2]

That's also why the clout.

[Host 3]

Sit down and shut up. You're not a rapper. Shut up. Stop acting like a rapper. Stop trying to talk like a rapper. Stop trying to move like a rapper. Cause you ain't gonna rap against nobody, and you definitely not gonna rap against me. As far as Pusha's concerned is what was what I'm saying. I can respect that in my life and my age, I see exactly what Pusha is feeling, what he's going through. It's just like, yo, enough. Everybody shut the fuck up.

[Host 2]

And I just. We need to figure out what that, like, secret email Push has that everyone sends shit to him. Cause I know for a fact Push not walking around Calabasas or in the studio with those of guys holding his phone up or, like, recording.

[Host 1]

Nah.

[Host 3]

But if you see somebody, you know has done some little slick little, and he over there getting punched on and we had an event, I might pull my phone like, yeah, look at this little. Look, he's running. Look at him. Check him out.

[Host 2]

But.

[Host 3]

But, like, Push, I ain't gonna put it out, cuz that's like. That's nasty. You don't want to put the young boy getting beat up. You don't put that out there. Of course, but I got it in my phone.

[Host 2]

Like we always say, the rappers have just notes full of files.

[Host 3]

Yeah. It's like, all right.

[Host 2]

But I mean, even think, like, with the Drake and blackface thing, like, Push always does come with information that I know he wasn't really seeking. What is it about Push that everyone just comes to him? Like, you know what I can tell you right now, like, I need to know what those conversations were like.

[Host 3]

I don't know if people are coming to him telling them shit. I just think that, you know, he's at the same. A lot of these guys have been at the same events, and sometimes shit happens at. At these events, you know, people kind of turn the blind eye. Don't speak about it, but he just letting you know that I was there, I saw it, I got the video. I didn't forget. Yeah.

[Host 2]

Because that's. I guess that's not even like a rapper or celebrity thing, because there. I have a few videos in my phone that I would just. You know, I'm waiting for somebody to say something type of thing of people attempting to fight.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

I would never release it. Just, you know, on offense.

[Host 3]

Right.

[Host 2]

But it's there. I got no issue with the Person. But, yeah, you know, it's just in case.

[Host 3]

Listen, man, we all got that one pair of sneakers in our closet. We ain't, you know, we're not going to never wear them.

[Host 2]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 3]

But we not going to get rid of them.

[Damaris]

No.

[Host 2]

One day you may need.

[Host 3]

Yeah, one day I might like, you know, I'm throwing these on tonight, man. Just. Just. Just, you know, keep them right there in the back of the closet.

[Host 2]

Okay, but do you think that. And I'm not saying it's particularly about Pusha T, but maybe just about the human competitive brain? Do you think if Push didn't already have that information or see, you know, Travis allegedly cry in front of him or lose a fight and have the footage, is he jumping out there off something that some people would deem minuscule? Like, is it that big a deal? They're rappers. No one is friends and family here. Why is Travis owe Drake anything or Pharrell anything?

[Host 3]

Like, I get that. I can see that.

[Host 2]

Do you think having that information, you're like, well, now I have a reason the same way. Like, just the way Drake said Virginia Williams, even though that was like the smallest part of dubby, it was like, all right, well, green light now. Now that you said that one thing, now we can go there.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Do we think that is probably part of it as well?

[Host 3]

Yeah, I think that some of this.

[Host 2]

Is Push really that mad at Travis?

[Damaris]

No, it's really. It really is a. Like, when you have something on somebody, you just like, I know you ain't laughing. Like, it gives like that.

[Host 3]

Like, that's not. It's not.

[Host 2]

It's not like, let's keep it cute.

[Host 3]

Yeah, it's not. It's not beef. Keep it cute. It's not beef. It's just like, yo, like, you be moving funny, and I don't like it.

[Host 2]

Like, you be moving like you don't like it.

[Host 3]

Yeah, you be doing little things, and it's just like, yo, chill out, bro. Cause you not. You not like that. You not. You know what I'm saying? It's like, yo, just sit down, relax. Yeah, you lit. You lit. But, like, don't get it twisted, though. That don't mean nothing to me.

[Host 2]

To me at all.

[Host 3]

Yeah, it's that type of shit.

[Host 2]

Like, yeah, you to everyone at the rodeo, good for you. But that means nothing to me.

[Host 3]

You doing dope shit and all that, but you also doing sucker shit.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Is what I think this is. This sentiment coming from Pusha is Travis is doing a lot of dope shit. For sure. But Pusha just seen him do sucker shit, and he's just addressing that part of it like, yo, that's some sucker shit you did. And I ain't like it.

[Host 2]

I'm overreaching on this one. But just the production nerd in me I liked. Was it malice or Push? It was malice. No more Neptune. So P is Saturn. I know that's not a slight. That's a hard bar, by the way. I was just like, damn, I hope Chad doesn't get offended by that.

[Host 3]

Yeah, we don't never talk about Chad.

[Host 2]

Enough, man, because Chad never wanted to talk about himself, which is fine. Like, he just wants to make his music.

[Host 3]

Shout out to Chad, man, wherever you at, legend, whatever you're doing, man.

[Host 2]

And I mean, the whole click of nerd wasn't just, you know, Pharrell and Chad, but the Neptunes. That. I don't know that. That made me sad. I don't think malice was. Was slighting Chad whatsoever. Yeah, it just made me a little sad, that's all.

[Host 3]

That's who I would love to talk to.

[Host 2]

Malice Chad. Oh, man. Chad not talking to nobody.

[Host 3]

I'm just saying. I just think that it'll be a cool conversation.

[Host 2]

It be an amazing conversation. That'd be a four hour conversation.

[Host 3]

Yeah, man.

[Host 2]

I don't know. Like, I respect producers and people like that that like, solidify Legend, but you'll never hear from them. Like, Pharrell, be the face. Like, I'll be over here and enjoy my. My life. Like.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

So I don't know. But again, two for two. I saw Jim Jones was on a pod talking, which, by the way, I think is fine because Jim went right out to the middle of Harlem. Two hours after that, that LV stream is. It got rapping.

[Host 3]

So stand on it.

[Host 2]

Yeah, Jimmy, it's fine if he wants Kenny talk about it. I completely disagree with him about the Ace of Trumpet shit. I think that record's incredible. But if I hated Pusha T, I would say it sucks too. So I feel.

[Host 3]

Listen, man, listen. Ace Trumbage is cool. Great, great, great, great music. But Yellow Diamonds look like PE Is one of the worst bars. Like, I. I like the song too, but we just got to keep it a stack. Yellow, Yellow diamonds look like pee into a great. They almost lost. Listen. Almost lost me after that ball. But they brought it back. Yes, brought it back. But that.

[Host 2]

That ball, it was surrounded by everything great after, so.

[Host 3]

Yeah, but it's like, I didn't. It's like when you go to a restaurant and you eat something like that, trash. But then they bring all the sheep, like, all right, cool. The ambiance is good. You know what I'm saying? The ambiance is cool. The waiter was dope. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I could go back there. Like, you know what I'm saying? I could go back.

[Host 2]

Wait. Every rapper I've loved has had a bar like that. So it's like.

[Host 3]

I'm just saying that is one of them.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

That's all. Every rapper has a bar where you're like, nah, I ain't really. If I was in that session, I'd have like, are you sure you want to go with that one? Like, we can't come up with something else? Yellow diamonds look like pee pee. Is that one for me?

[Damaris]

Okay, but hear me out. Did they look like pee pee?

[Host 3]

If your pee pee looks like yellow diamonds, you need to hydrate. That is true. Yeah, you need to. You need more like.

[Host 2]

And if it's. If it's glimmering, you. Yeah, you need to go to the hospital.

[Host 3]

You said what? Ice Spice bar. Ice Spice said yellow diamonds.

[Damaris]

Like pp. That would be something. That is an Ice Spice bar.

[Host 2]

No, you'll be. I could have a urinary tract infection.

[Host 3]

Look how fast. Look how fast we figured it out. I could respect that coming from Ice Spice.

[Host 2]

You have to respect it.

[Host 3]

No, no, I respect it because I don't expect Ice Spice to bomb me down. You get what I'm saying? Like, so it's like, okay, but if Push is playing on some shit Ice Spice said, then I get that, too. Okay, that's just a little callback to what I said. Okay, I get it.

[Host 2]

I don't think he was doing that, and I'd actually be more upset at Pusha T. Do you want to call back to Ice Spice than him just saying yellow diamonds look like peepee?

[Host 3]

Nah, he want to give Spice some love, man. Shout out to Ice Spice, the Bronx legend.

[Host 2]

What's that little thing that you can check the diamond and pushes up?

[Host 3]

They don't talk about Pusha. He's from the Bronx.

[Host 2]

That is true.

[Host 3]

Even though he don't want crazy Towers.

[Host 2]

Legend.

[Host 3]

Yeah, he's from the Bronx. Bush is from the Bronx. Yeah, he from the Bronx. He ain't gonna say it. I'm gonna say it.

[Host 2]

Moved to Virginia.

[Damaris]

Oh, okay.

[Host 3]

Now he's from the Bronx, man.

[Host 2]

Way longer.

[Host 3]

Pusha T is from the Bronx. How old are they?

[Host 2]

I know.

[Damaris]

If he was, you wouldn't be saying he was from the Bronx. If he was Ash, you'd be like, that Virginia nigga, because he nice. He from the Bronx.

[Host 3]

No, I'm saying he from the Bronx. Cause he from the Bronx. What you want me to do?

[Host 2]

Yeah, there's been rappers from the Bronx that I've said, yo, you asked.

[Host 3]

Yeah, for sure. But he's from the Bronx. He gonna claim VA Cool. But he's from the Bronx. Absolutely.

[Host 2]

Is there more to the PP line that we don't know? Maybe. I was saying someone's wearing fake yellow diamonds. Like, maybe there's more.

[Host 3]

Wait, wait, wait.

[Host 2]

Maybe.

[Host 3]

Well, we know that these rappers are wearing fake jewelry. That's not even. I don't even think that that's a secret anymore. Like, some of them will let you know. Yeah, I went to the club that night. I had my fake shit on. The real was in the crib, though. 100, in case niggas tried me that night. Y' all can have this fake shit.

[Damaris]

Niggas whoop your ass. Take your time.

[Host 3]

Yeah, take that shit.

[Host 2]

Everybody know I'm rich, so. So they're gonna assume his real.

[Host 3]

Ocho's notorious for that. Ocho Cinco, he let you know this shit fake. I got. I got real shit in the house, though. But these shit's in my ear. Bullshit.

[Host 2]

And Ocho would take a middle economy seat.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

To Miami for the Ray J.

[Host 3]

When Ray J was on the Breakfast Club, he had them big rocks in his ear. They was fake, he said, because he kept losing his real ones in hotels. He would just have them on a dress and leave and be like, fuck, I left my ear. He got tired of doing that. So now I'm at the Breakfast Club with fake diamonds in my ear. It happens. It is what it is. So, yes, rappers are definitely wearing fake jewelry.

[Host 2]

Before we get off this, it was nice to see that, you know, rappers looking out for each other the way Push did with Pharrell, et cetera. Dave Bluntz, at least, thank God, came to Kanye's rescue, because we didn't. It was looking crazy for Kanye. So Dave showed up.

[Host 3]

Dave Blunts, man, Shout out to Dave Bluntz, man.

[Damaris]

Push it to your 48. Dissing A. Who did everything for you. Tell daddy you're sorry. We're not listening to that Mark ass album. You suck. We are not amused.

[Host 3]

All right, Dave, you tripping. I. With Dave Blunts. That's my. But come on, Dave, you tripping, man. You.

[Host 2]

He. He hung out with Kanye for five minutes, did one Nazi song, and now all of a sudden, he riding like this yeah.

[Host 3]

Nah, Dave, push it.

[Host 2]

And, Dave, don't be surprised if Kanye does you the same way he did push a T. Because Pusha T is replying. Pusha T did not just say something bad about Kanye. He held Kanye down when no one else would spoke on his behalf. When no one else would push, the nigga rolled for him. And then all Kanye did was say, suck my dick in return.

[Host 3]

Shit, Push a damn N. Cursed me out when I was asking you about why he riding for Yay so hard. Like, nigga, why you riding for that nigga? That's. Cause that's what I do. My. All right, fam.

[Host 2]

They not built like me. Everybody's built like me.

[Host 3]

Well, yeah, once, nigga. All right, fam. Because I'm not going. We not going to yell at it. I'm not definitely not going to see a yell at your eye. Yeah. What.

[Host 2]

What a day.

[Host 3]

Yeah, you got it.

[Host 2]

What a day.

[Damaris]

But I don't. That's one thing I'll never understand is if you see someone be a shitty person to everyone in your life. What makes you think you're exempt? What makes you think your time.

[Host 2]

I was wrong.

[Host 3]

I didn't go to therapy for it. So please. You triggering me right now.

[Host 1]

My bad.

[Damaris]

I'm sorry, but y got. Y' all got to eat that, cuz. You don't sit up here like, damn, yo, they did them up. But, yo, this my dog. Nah, you next, ho.

[Host 3]

Next. Yeah, you write. Listen, you, Baby D. When you write, you right. You're absolutely correct. I can't argue with you on that. I just think that sometimes, you know, you. You have people that you, you know, you're friends with and, you know, friends become family if you have friends long enough and that type of thing, and they make history together, do a lot of great things together. And you may know that they did some wax shit somewhere. But you. You get this thing where it's like, nah, they wouldn't do that to me, though. It's a human fault that I think a lot of us have. A lot of people have that where you start feeling like, nah, they wouldn't do that to me, though. Like, nah, they wouldn't try that. Even in relationships, you can know your boyfriend did some wild shit to his baby moms. Didn't stop you from getting in a relationship with him. Cause you thinking, like, he wouldn't pull that shit with me. Like, nigga, don't. But then when he pull it with you, you can't sit there and be, like, so surprised. Like, that's who he is. That's what he does.

[Host 2]

He's a serial cheer. Like, he was dealing with bum bitches before. It's me now. And then he just go, keep bum bitches.

[Host 3]

Keep bum bitches.

[Damaris]

I always tell when bitches be like, you want to try that with me? I'm like, okay, Ms. Superhero pussy. I don't know why you think you exempt Beyonce. Got cheated on. Boop.

[Host 3]

I don't know why you think we don't know.

[Host 2]

Entertainment is entertainment.

[Host 3]

I'm just saying. We don't know. We don't know.

[Host 2]

What happened is not a metaphor. Sometimes she just likes lemonade.

[Host 3]

I love 444 and lemonade as well. Yo. I'm just saying. Was it art? Like, we don't know.

[Host 2]

Like, see you. Y' all don't even do deep dive. He was talking from the perspective of this old artist. Yeah, from the 18th century, you know? Hov was in the art. That was his perspective. He wasn't speaking.

[Host 3]

He would never.

[Host 2]

That's 444in a sundial. Hov don't even, like, have a digital.

[Host 3]

Never do that. Hov. Hov. Hov wouldn't do that. Hov won't do that. So hopefully he want to go do that. Oh, man.

[Host 2]

Like, I told you so crack.

[Host 3]

Yeah. No, no did that. So hopefully you won't have to go through that. See ain't. Get that ball. See, you want her to go.

[Host 2]

Imagine being starving a teenager and like. Nah, Hove did it already. Yeah, not gonna.

[Host 3]

I'm not gonna do this. Like, flush this down the toilet. Know the. You ain't.

[Host 2]

That's actually Hove at rehab centers. I heard there's. That's a poster next to the 12 steps. What's the recovery prayer except the things I cannot change. And right under that is. Hov did this. Why are you doing this?

[Host 3]

Why you. He did this so you wouldn't have to be here. Why are you here exactly?

[Host 2]

Well, Dave Blunt, I know you're a very popular artist now. I hope you want to get old, and that's nothing to do with your weight. But I never understood why younger artists call other artists old as a diss. Like, that's not the point.

[Host 3]

Yeah, dude. Y' all not.

[Host 2]

Do y' all not want to be older artists at some point?

[Host 3]

Yeah. I don't think people understand. It's the objective is to get old.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Like, you don't want to die young. Like, you don't want to. Like, you don't want to be like, oh, I'm 25. It. It's over. That's it.

[Host 2]

Don't you want older artists to push the genre as they get older?

[Damaris]

I think his point. I mean, granted, he's wrong, but I think his point was, you too old to be dissing people or you too old to be. No, you ain't listening.

[Host 3]

Ain't no such thing as being too old to diss nobody. You walk in your grandmother house right now, she's still gonna start talking shit to you, yo.

[Damaris]

More than anybody.

[Host 3]

Sometimes you just need that.

[Host 2]

Now, if Pusha T put on a fucking mask and was riding around Calabasas with a gun and filming it on his phone, I'd be like, push. You are way too old for this.

[Host 3]

Yeah, he's outside actively trying to get into physical confrontations. Then it's like, come on, push you to it. But he just rapping. This is what rap is. I'm in the bars talking about real things that happened. I didn't like what you did, Travis. I'm letting you know because I don't. We don't speak on the phone. This is my way of letting you know you did some sucker shit. I don't fuck with that.

[Host 2]

And Dave Blunt. Is Kanye west too old for his entire Drink Champs episode?

[Host 3]

Oh, man, low work.

[Host 2]

It's like that. That was age appropriate. I mean, dissing your whole label for no reason.

[Damaris]

Can y' all go on Drink Champs and get drunk and diss a whole bunch of people? I think it'd be great for our brand. Well, you don't drink, get high.

[Host 3]

Why would that be great for our brand?

[Damaris]

I don't know. I think it'd be fun.

[Host 3]

Terrible for brand.

[Damaris]

I think it'd be fun.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Never would have any fun.

[Host 3]

We got fun, but I don't want to just get high and watch Rory get drunk and just start talking shit about people because, what, the next day I'm gonna be like, that is the worst shit we've ever. That was the worst decision we ever made.

[Host 2]

And what you mean by everybody? Like, just any.

[Damaris]

Like, just dissing whoever out. You got plenty of people on your Rolodex of dissing niggas. You know who you want to diss. Just go on there.

[Host 2]

I thought you meant just like, any and everybody.

[Host 1]

Oh, yeah, whoever.

[Damaris]

I'll go with you.

[Host 2]

I get drunk with.

[Damaris]

You know, I love dissing niggas. Like, I'm with.

[Host 2]

It sounds really safe, you know? Like, real life does exist outside.

[Host 3]

I just don't have nobody I could think about that I would really want to diss. Like, on camera. Like, I don't know. I don't really care about none of these people enough to do that to get, like, a response. And really, like, I really. I was talking to P. Was yesterday. We talking about that. I was like, I really just don't. Like, I. I be trying to be like, yo, what da da da? That's corny. Like, I'm like, yeah, that's come like, oh, man, that's nasty. I can't do that.

[Host 2]

And usually, like, off my. Behind the scenes in here, I'll be pissed about somebody. By the time I get in the car and I get even close to the Holland Tunnel, I'm like, over that. Yeah, I'm cool.

[Host 3]

That's what I'm saying. Like, you just can't fall victim to the moment. Like, that's something I learned in real time was like, don't fall victim to the moment, like, because you're gonna look back and be like, damn, why I do that? And so I try not to. But again, human. We gonna have our. Our slips and our falls. But, you know, I thought about it. I'm like, yo, these a lot of be online talking real peach. Put me onto somebody that was talking a little spicy in the last couple weeks online. He was like, yo, this dude always got your name. And I'm like, yeah, I kind of peeped that too, Pete. So, you know when somebody else peep with you, peep, you be like, word, right?

[Damaris]

You feel violated.

[Host 3]

Like, word. I should run down on that nigga, right? I'm like, nah, bro. Like, I can't do that, man. Like, let these. Let them talk. Let them have. I think that's what some of this is for. Like, but having platforms and podcasts and things like that, I think it's. You know, sometimes you throw little shots out there. You'd say something, somebody. I say things I know people don't like. Cool. So if they respond to things I don't like with disrespect or as long as it's not nothing too crazy, I got away with that because it's like, damn, they responded to something I said. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, okay, again, trying to get more intelligent emotionally. Like, all right, what did I do for him to say that about me? Oh, I said this. I could see how he didn't like that. All right, cool. I gotta wear that. But as long as it don't get too crazy and you start really talking, like, spicy and all, like, I'm cool, man. Get your off, man. I'm not here, though.

[Damaris]

Part of. Part of being in this, like, having this job, I've realized and becoming a personality. I've realized when people start shooting just, like, to make a moment, and it's like, oh, you like, well, ma be like, oh, you want to go viral? That's what's, like, when I say something to mall and more be like, oh, you try to go viral. Okay, let's engage in this conversation. Like, I see, like, now, like, oh, you want, like, a moment from this. Like, but see me, I'm quick to be like, I'm not like, yo, you want a moment? I'm not giving you a moment. Like, we're not. We're not doing that.

[Host 3]

Yeah, but I mean, it happens some. You're gonna slip. You're gonna slip. Like, it's gonna happen.

[Host 2]

Everyone's human.

[Host 3]

Yeah, I'm gonna sleep one day.

[Host 2]

You have a bad day.

[Host 3]

I'm like, no, I wouldn't do that. Y' all know the. Y' all be. Want me to talk.

[Damaris]

I've been responded to somebody who was beneath me and be like, why the did you do that? You just gave this person so much more attention than they would have ever gotten.

[Host 3]

Yeah, it's just like, yo, man, just.

[Host 2]

It happens it, man.

[Host 3]

Let people get their.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but I ain't never regretted a Suck my dick, though. Every time I've said that, I've meant.

[Host 2]

It came right from the heart.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I ain't never woke up from that third. I shouldn't have told them to suck them. Nah, I meant it when I said it.

[Host 1]

I meant it now.

[Host 3]

Yeah. That I feel. Now that I feel like, yo, damn, that was crazy. I went off a little bit, but, nah, real talk, though. Suck my dick.

[Host 2]

I'm not gonna gaslight my own self. That came from a place of truth. You deserve that.

[Host 3]

Yeah, yeah. Absolutely, that. I totally understand that part of it. Absolutely.

[Host 2]

Before we pivot, I feel like this episode will get much funnier now when we add a woman into the mix. Damaris, you're a woman, but, you know, you're our co host.

[Host 3]

Damaris, let me ask you something. Do you get offended? Because I've seen, like, girls on the. Well, women on the timeline talking about this. Do you get offended when men say females? Like, does that bother you? Because I've seen women having conversation.

[Damaris]

I'm like, it's kind of like a. It's kind of like nails on a chalkboard, but it doesn't bother me.

[Host 3]

Why is it nails on a chalkboard, though?

[Damaris]

Because female. Just me. It's just. It's very demeaning. And I think men say a lot of demeaning things that they're not aware. Like, I don't think they mean to be demeaning. It's just kind of the way that society raises y' all. The same way that I tell y' all, the way y' all talk about sex is way too violent. It's just kind of like female can be anything. It could be a female fish, a female dog. It could be a female anything. Just say woman. I don't understand why it's so hard to just say woman. Because y' all don't be out here saying males. These males getting on my nerves. Y' all say niggas or y' all say men, so women can't say y' all still do.

[Host 3]

Yeah, but.

[Host 2]

But isn't always gender.

[Damaris]

Say I ain't never say. You saying you ain't never say bitches?

[Host 3]

Bitches is like my middle name. Of course I say bitches. Yeah, I say bitches. But I'm just saying in a real conversation, I'll be like, yo, bitches be acting like you. I'm not that guy either, though. No, I'm not that.

[Damaris]

No.

[Host 3]

Because some bitches out here, we know the difference between women and bitches. Like, it's bitches out here on the timeline.

[Host 1]

Yeah, I don't.

[Host 2]

I don't. Males or bitches.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but I don't say males. Y' all say men at the same way. It's easy for you to say men. Just say women.

[Host 3]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Because the females is a little degrading. But again, I don't make a big deal out of it. Even when y' all say it, because y' all do mall says it once in a while. Rory doesn't say it really say it, but say bitches.

[Host 3]

No.

[Damaris]

Female. Females. But I don't. Yeah, it's not that. It's not that big of a deal, but it's just something to be aware of, that's all.

[Host 3]

I understand that.

[Host 2]

Okay.

[Host 3]

I just realized I've been to LA more times than I've been to Staten island in my life.

[Damaris]

Yo, you having a random thought day? I love it. It's random thought day.

[Host 3]

I just thought about it because I don't know why Staten island just popped in my head.

[Host 2]

You know what's funny? I'm probably 99% of New Yorkers that are not from Staten island probably have that exact stat.

[Host 3]

I've been to California 10 times more than I've been to Staten island in my life. And Staten island is 20 minutes from here.

[Host 2]

But you don't take a ferry to la. It's easier.

[Damaris]

He took a ferry?

[Host 2]

Yep. Yeah. What's funny is he took a ferry. What's funny from where you've lived in New York, jfk. To get to the airport, to get to California is further than going to Staten Island. It's harder to get to JFK than it is.

[Host 3]

That's a fact. I think I've been to Staten island twice my entire life.

[Damaris]

Did you enjoy it? Obviously?

[Host 3]

No, it was cool. It was cool. I went once. It was like a. My homeboy. His people, I think was having a cookout or something. And then we met some girls. You know how to cook? I know, I go. And then we went back a couple weeks later to hang out with the girls and shit. And that was the last time we went.

[Damaris]

Were those women black?

[Host 2]

Yeah, there's black people in state.

[Damaris]

No, I know. I was just asking him.

[Host 3]

Yeah, no, there was black girls. And I remember going. And then when we came back the second time we went, when we was coming back, I remember thinking to myself, I am never coming back to Staten Island. Never did. Never. We was on the ferry in the car. Because you could drive the car on the ferry. Like sit. Just stay in the car if you want.

[Host 2]

What year was this? 1973.

[Host 3]

This was like nine. No, this was like 2000.

[Host 2]

2000?

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Yes.

[Host 2]

They switched it. When did they switch it?

[Host 3]

What? Well, you had to get out the car.

[Host 2]

Their cars don't go on the Staten island ferry.

[Host 3]

We took.

[Host 2]

I'm saying what they. At one point, but I thought that was like in the 70s.

[Host 3]

Nah, bro. I'm almost positive we put when, when.

[Host 2]

They built the Verizono Bridge. I thought they stopped that. 2003. Wow.

[Host 3]

Yeah, it's like that was way before that.

[Host 2]

Okay.

[Host 3]

Yeah. We drove the car on the ferry, stayed in the cars. Like a little 15, not even a 10 minute ride or something like that.

[Host 2]

It's a 20, 30.

[Host 3]

Yeah. And I remember sitting in the car thinking, I am never doing this again. Like, this is like what are we doing? Right? Like.

[Host 2]

But it's also like the best non tourist ride. You go by Statue of Liberty. I'm. You guys know with this pot. I've been an advocate of Staten Island. It gets too much hate. I think it's a wonderful place.

[Host 3]

No, I don't. Not saying I hate it. I just realized like, yo, I. I remember saying to myself, I'm never going to Staten island again. And I've never been back and that was 25 years ago. Yeah, and I've only been twice. Like, just a random thought. I'm sorry we went off track. I'm sorry.

[Damaris]

I love when you go off track.

[Host 3]

My mind just went there. Sorry, Josh. My bad.

[Host 2]

Well, we can take a quick break, do a little reset. Mall's about to get in his joke bag. Can't wait. So stay tuned for the rest of this podcast. Mall's gonna be fucking hilarious.

[Host 3]

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[Host 2]

Yes.

[Host 3]

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[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Today we are joined by Joy Taylor. Joy, how you feeling?

[Host 1]

I'm great. Thanks for having me, guys.

[Host 3]

Good. See, I'm not going. We only do the formal thing. Like we ain't been talking for like 30 minutes off camera, kicking it, so it's okay.

[Host 2]

This was the only small talk that, like, we actually saw through after the BET Media, where like everyone else, like, yeah, I saw link. Yeah, this and that. Yeah, never gonna happen. This is the only one that we followed through.

[Host 3]

But I feel like Joy has been for a while, I think. I think we've been alluding to doing something on camera, like getting up and having a conversation. I just think that it ever had the opportunity to happen. So la. Kind of look at the introduction. You're in New York. Fanatics is this weekend.

[Host 1]

Yep. The universe aligned.

[Host 3]

Yeah. There you go. Universal Lines. Joy is here to join us and Damaris is on the couch with us through Baby D. Yes.

[Host 2]

Now you know how deep these couches are and why I have to swing my feet sometimes.

[Damaris]

I know my Feet are swinging, too. It's fine.

[Host 3]

It's all good.

[Host 1]

I found the angle.

[Host 2]

Yeah, but podcast, too. Personal.

[Host 1]

Yes.

[Host 2]

Available. How's. How's the audio podcast world been?

[Host 1]

It's. It's. You know, it's funny being in the sports side of things and then moving into, like, culture, relationships.

[Host 3]

I think you're not supposed to have a personality.

[Host 1]

Entertainment news. No, it's not so much personality. I think, you know, fundamentally, when you talk about sports, if you give your opinion about sports, no one thinks you're giving advice. Yeah, right. Like, if I'm like, damn.

[Host 2]

Unless you're skip, skip things.

[Host 1]

Steelers need to run the ball more. Nobody thinks I'm saying, Mike Tomlin needs to talk to his offensive coordinator and fix that. Like, yeah, whatever. We're just saying things that mean really nothing because we are not in those rooms. But when you say something like, I think men that lead with religion are a red flag, it's like, you are telling people, don't date religious men. Like, that's not what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I do. Whatever you do is your business. And it's such an interesting. Like, you have to almost start by saying, I'm not telling you how to live your life. This is my opinion based off of my experiences, which I thought was understood.

[Host 3]

That was common sense, right?

[Host 1]

Yeah. I mean, common sense is not common, but in sports, it's very much understood.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And working in the sports space for, you know, almost 20 years, you get like, that's the rhythm. I'm not. I'm not even thinking about saying, like, hey, Mike Tomlin, I don't want you to think that I'm giving you advice.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

You don't have to say, I don't have to say that. But in the. In the other side, in the entertainment relationship, you know, news side, you have to say that.

[Host 3]

Yeah. You have to make wild.

[Host 2]

What would be more of a red flag on a first date, leading with your opinion of Mike Tomlin? Or can I talk to you about Jesus?

[Host 1]

Can I talk to you about Jesus?

[Host 3]

And you got to say that when she sits down, like, can I talk.

[Host 2]

Have you met our Lord and Savior?

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

I mean, my ass is not hitting the seat like, you got it. You got to get that out when we've already ordered something, because some red wine.

[Host 2]

The blood of Christ.

[Host 3]

Communist. Tomorrow. You coming?

[Host 1]

Exactly. I got to have some. Some, you know, some wine before we start talking about. Can I talk to you about Jesus is crazy.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

No.

[Host 2]

Have you dated a religious Like a religious man. Not. Not a.

[Damaris]

The way I speak that religious men.

[Host 1]

Wouldn'T speak to me.

[Damaris]

God really speaks to me.

[Host 2]

Religious men are similar to the women that go after home and that they think they can fix them. I feel like religious men go after women that curse because they think that they can bring you to the Lord.

[Damaris]

No, they're.

[Host 2]

You're a. I think they know a.

[Damaris]

Lost cause when they see one, though. They avoid me like the plague.

[Host 1]

Religious men do not avoid me.

[Damaris]

Really.

[Host 1]

I think it's really crazy because I don't know what I'm giving off.

[Damaris]

Deaconess of the church, but what is it?

[Host 3]

All right, so you say religious men like you or they approach you.

[Host 1]

So I shouldn't say religious men. I actually don't mind someone who has religion. I don't want to be preached to.

[Host 3]

Okay.

[Host 1]

And I'm off.

[Host 3]

You don't want it pushed on to you?

[Host 1]

Yeah, well, I mean, I grew up in a Baptist church, so I went to church, you know, four or five days a week, every week for like 16 years. So you ain't hitting me with nothing new, nothing original. And I know real Christians like people that actually live their lives that way. They're like, kind and generous and understanding and non judgmental, not Republican. Like, knowing the real thing makes everything else look so inauthentic to me. And maybe I'm being judgy because I've had some bad experiences, but I just don't. It's not. It's not like religion. Like, if you believe in God, like, cool. I believe in God too. I think you should have a spiritual center. I think you should be, like, in. In touch with that. Especially moving through the world. Like, it's important. It's dark out here, but all these rules and shit.

[Host 2]

I know the religious men you're talking about, not guys that go to church and have a relationship with God. Like, you know the pastor that preaches about not being gay, but he was gay the whole time. Adultery. He's fucking the woman in the pulpit. He's driving a Benz with bottom. Yeah. Like, stop preaching me on everything. You're worse than me.

[Host 3]

We had a. Me and Rory was talking about sometimes when you sit down with people and you speak to them and when they answer certain questions and they lead with, like, their faith in God and stuff, it makes. It's like, okay, the rest of this conversation, we have to kind of tail back immediately, because if you know us, we find humor in anything, Right? But when people lead with a religious answer, it's like they're not gonna laugh at the shit that we wanna laugh at. They mean this. And that could kind of make it a little awkward. Like, okay, I believe in God, too. I pray and things like that.

[Host 1]

What are you. What are you thinking about?

[Host 3]

Like, you on it? I'm not saying that God gave. Brought this light in here today and made this set, and now we're here. I'm not that guy. He gave somebody the ability to wake up and come in here and build the set and do that.

[Host 2]

Gave Thomas Edison the ability to steal it from somebody else.

[Host 3]

Yes, we got that part. But I'm just not gonna walk in a room like God gave us. It's like, everybody's like, okay, yeah.

[Host 2]

Even if you think that that's fine. It's. When you walk in and say it, it's like a used car salary. Like, what are you trying to sell me right now?

[Host 3]

What's up, man? Like, what you really got going on? Like. Like, sometimes that could be a wall for, like, what somebody is really going through and what they're really feeling.

[Host 1]

It's like when you, like, they're like, thank God for this parking spot.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

But I do say that when I get one right out front, you're like, thank God.

[Host 1]

But you're not. Literally, like, God prepared this parking spot for me and this blessing today. Yeah, because. So I didn't get the parking spot because you got there two seconds earlier. So I don't get the blessing.

[Host 3]

They do that in sports a lot. Like, I laugh when playing. That's what I said.

[Host 1]

What do you feel about when players.

[Host 3]

Do that when a team wins? Like, when Halliburton be like, just want to thank God, you know? So God wasn't with Shay last night.

[Host 2]

Part of the journey. Should have prayed hard.

[Damaris]

Satan sent Hal, so that's. I don't know what he thinking. God.

[Host 3]

Oh, yes. That's how all New Yorkers feel after. After what he did.

[Damaris]

Like, that's what he did.

[Host 3]

He's the devil. He's the devil. He has the three sixes on his own.

[Host 2]

So it was worse. The guy that enters the room on religion or the guy that gets caught doing some nasty and then immediately has to bring God into the situation on his reply.

[Host 3]

Tyler Perry Diddy. Tyler's crazy. Love Tyler. We all love Tyler.

[Host 1]

Oh, Lord.

[Host 3]

Tyler is a fucking icon in every sense of the word. Great.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Now lead with lead with all respect.

[Host 3]

It's cool.

[Host 2]

Yeah. What he's doing in Atlanta.

[Host 3]

I'm just saying.

[Host 2]

Compound. It's incredible. Yeah.

[Host 3]

Have these allegations and then the next time we hear from you, you're on IG Live singing a Negro spiritual or whatever. He was saying gospel. That's what I'm talking about. It's like, cool. We got it. We know that. You know what I'm saying? You're religious and not saying you're guilty. You believe that God is going to protect you through this, which you're about to go through. I'm all for that. I'm just saying when you go on IG Live and your first response is to recite a gospel song and that's it, and just end the live, it's like, yeah, you.

[Damaris]

Whatever they say you did, you did that shit.

[Host 3]

People. One would feel like that.

[Host 2]

Like, you think that would be in his screenplay, that exact scene? Because that's how I feel it would go. His life is a screenplay, in my opinion.

[Host 3]

100. And that's the thing, too, that people don't talk about. I think that people that are so gifted at acting, writing, and things like that, when do we know when they're being their true selves or when they. Or.

[Host 2]

Well, we never know.

[Host 3]

When Tyler Perry decides to wake up and he has this movie in his head, and all day he's gonna live this movie. You wouldn't know that.

[Damaris]

I mean, most people I know, but.

[Host 2]

With Tyler, I don't know. I don't want to, because he is that legend, his own right. But, like, when Denzel was in Training Day, I saw that crooked cop. I knew it was Denzel, but I saw that cop. When I see Madea, I just see Tyler Perry in a. Nah, you bugging.

[Damaris]

Madea is also whole.

[Host 1]

If you could tell me that Madea was Tyler Perry's cousin, I would believe that. Yeah.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Like, if.

[Host 3]

If. If. If Tyler Perry and Madea walked out at the same time, yeah. I would be like, yo, that had to be.

[Host 2]

Did you feel that way with Martin Lawrence and Big Mama?

[Damaris]

No, that was.

[Host 1]

That was.

[Host 2]

I'm just acting.

[Damaris]

That was Martin Lawrence different.

[Host 3]

I don't know where Martin was taking us. A Big Mama.

[Host 2]

What about Norbit?

[Host 3]

Norbit. I could see that, too, though. I could see that being a real person.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Hey.

[Host 1]

I mean, there's so much that goes into, like, a great performance, though. That's why I think plays and musicals, like, that's. That's some of the purest form of acting and performances because you don't have, like, the editing and the lighting and the special effects, like, bring all of that together. Like, you're just on a stage taking you Taking a whole audience somewhere like, that's wild to me. I could never have a gift like that. I say all the time. I could never be able to sing. I'd be a terrible person. I'm borderline right now, so there's no.

[Host 3]

Way you're borderline a terrible person right now.

[Host 1]

I don't know. It's a terrible.

[Host 3]

I don't. I don't get terrible from Joy.

[Host 2]

Looking back at management, like, am I right?

[Host 1]

Terrible?

[Host 3]

Nah, I don't get that. I don't. I don't feel like you are a terrible person. I feel like you can be a very cold person, though.

[Host 1]

Facts. That's a good.

[Host 3]

I don't know if that's terrible if management agreed, but I feel like you can be cold. I feel like you go from being, like, the sweetest friend, and then, like, you and a girl fall out with each other. Y' all don't speak to him. And, like, you could literally walk right past and never even make eye contact with that person.

[Host 1]

I am. I'm a soft girl for sure. But, I mean, the world doesn't give us a lot of spaces to be soft. So I can't really move around the world and be successful as a soft woman, but particularly a black woman. But, yeah, I don't like. I don't like the masculine being brought out of me. I was just having this conversation yesterday. I was like, a man has one time to make me feel like, I gotta bring the cane corso out, and it's a wrap. You never get in this.

[Host 3]

What does that mean, though? You have to bring the cane corso.

[Host 1]

Let's. Like, if you're gonna be around me, like, whether you're friends in business relationship, like, don't put me in a space where I feel unsafe.

[Host 3]

Okay.

[Host 1]

You know, intentionally. Sometimes people do that unintentionally. But if you do it intentionally, like, now. All right, now we gotta go. I'm not gonna lose, so that's unfortunate for you. That was a choice.

[Host 3]

What's an unsafe space for Joy? What does that look like?

[Host 1]

I think. Well, I have a lot of trauma, so I would definitely, like. If you're, like, gaslighting me, like, you're trying to convince me that something that I didn't do, I did, or I did do, I didn't do, or you're trying to manipulate me in any way, I think, for me, like, I like consistency with people. So when people are inconsistent and it's very obvious that they're intentionally being inconsistent, it's not. Cause, like, oh, I, you know, I got busy and I forgot about this or something. Like, it's really like a strategic way of moving that just puts me in a space where I feel like I have to be on the defense, on the light end. Like, obviously there's things people can do that immediately make you feel unsafe.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

But it's really just more the subtleties, the. What's the word I'm looking for? The microaggressions. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much for that. Yeah, the microaggressions, that type of stuff. Just like, that puts you on alert, and then you can see things in people and. Yeah, I don't. You don't have a whole lot of chances. I don't think people should have give people that many chances to. To be disrespectful or to make people feel unsafe, because it's not hard to be authentic and respectful. Respect really is. Like, that's the thing. I was thinking about this the other day.

[Host 3]

Like, it takes more energy to be disrespectful.

[Host 1]

It does. It does. And we're losing recipes.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Like, remember when people used to say, like, my word is all I got? That used to be a thing. Like, if your word was whack, you couldn't move around. Like, people would not let you in places. People would not fuck with you. They would not recommend you for anything. They wouldn't work with you. Like, now it's like, you could be whatever. You could have whatever kind of character. Not like alleged character. Like, legitimately, your word doesn't mean shit.

[Host 2]

Quote is a Scarface poster now.

[Host 1]

That's all it's all it is. Like, you got your word and your balls, and people don't have balls anyway. So now there's no word and no balls.

[Host 3]

Republicans are trying to change that.

[Host 1]

Very attached to the balls.

[Host 2]

Well, I mean, I feel like before, when that was that way to get into certain spaces, those people were controlling it. They did keep their word. Or also at balls. Now it's a free for all. So the rooms that people are trying to get in, everyone there is already a, like, manipulative liar. So to get into the room is pretty easy at that place. So I hear you. Which does that bring the terrible person out of you? Is that why you're saying you feel like you're a terrible person?

[Host 1]

I'm not a terrible person. I'm actually, like, a pretty decent person, considering. But I do think that moving through the world, it's getting harder and harder to, like, be good.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Like, what you Said, like, it's. It's like the higher you go up, the more. The darker it gets. And it's like you have to make. You make choices. Like, you know, do you. What is it? You die a hero, live long enough to become a villain.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And you spend enough time, like, trying to be a good person, and you realize there's no reward for being a good person. You are not rewarded at all. People will not treat you better. People will not spare you. Like, people will not be loyal to you just because you are a good person. That's why you should be a good.

[Host 1]

Person for yourself, for your.

[Host 2]

Yeah. I mean, or separating. Because I feel like even with business or every industry in general, you kind of can only meet manipulation with, like, manipulation. If someone is a shitty person and you're negotiating with them or working with them for them, you can't be a good person. And it's going to work out. Like, you have to meet them at that same exact place to even get through this.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Can't just come in with a smile and they'll be like, oh, he's good.

[Host 1]

I think that's why we have a. An orange for a president. I would. I would love to be on that debate. Oh, my God.

[Host 3]

With Trump. What do you want to debate him on?

[Host 2]

Well, he's. He's gonna get a. Like, a third term, apparently.

[Host 1]

Like, let's just exchange insults for an hour. Oh.

[Damaris]

Like, no facts, nothing.

[Host 1]

Just insults. Like, let's.

[Host 2]

Okay.

[Host 1]

Like, blow for blow. You hit me with one. I'm hit you one. Oh, my God.

[Host 3]

Why you want to insult the president?

[Host 1]

Oh, my God.

[Host 2]

The most insulting president. This.

[Host 1]

Like, nobody cooks him properly. He's so cookable.

[Host 3]

He is very cookable.

[Host 2]

He just goes against people that have never cooked before. So he seems like he's great.

[Damaris]

He's pretty cookable, for sure.

[Host 3]

For instance, I mean, like, for you to insult him. Like.

[Host 1]

No, I would start. I would start from the top, highest hair on his head to the bottom of his feet. Like, it would be a fry.

[Damaris]

You want to cut ass with the president is hilarious. What?

[Host 1]

It is my dream. Like, set this, this up, please.

[Host 3]

I just don't know, man. I think that we don't give Trump and, like, he's. I just believe that when you're from certain cities, like, when you're from a New York City, you grow up at some point with kids and people in your neighborhood talking to you.

[Host 1]

Yes.

[Host 3]

I just think he might be a little. He might have that, too, in his tuck.

[Damaris]

Like, he might get enjoyed he has.

[Host 2]

A little bit of it that you see, but he's doing it to people that have never been in an environment. Like, that's why he looks so funny. I've come on here, too, and said, Trump, that was hilarious what he said there. But he's going against people that have no response because they've never been insulted feelings.

[Host 1]

I don't have those. Like, that's. Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Host 3]

Oh, you have. Enjoy. Don't do that.

[Host 1]

It makes me happy to think about it. No, no. Like, there's a switch. Like, I can turn them off.

[Host 3]

Especially that is, like, psychotic.

[Damaris]

That's not psychotic.

[Host 3]

Feelings off.

[Host 1]

You have to know there's a lot.

[Host 2]

Of people that can be like, yes.

[Damaris]

She just explained to you why she is able to do that.

[Host 3]

Emotionally intelligent. I believe you can control your emotions. Emotions that I believe in, but I don't believe that you can just completely, like, turn off your emotions. If somebody's sitting across from you having a conversation and you just don't like this person, Like, I think that that is an emotion. Being, like, doing that is an emotion.

[Host 1]

There's nothing Trump could say to me to hurt my feelings.

[Host 3]

Okay.

[Host 1]

You know, someone that you have such little respect for, it wouldn't matter what they said. They would not hurt your feelings.

[Host 3]

Okay.

[Host 1]

Think of that person.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Now imagine they're across from you and they're insulting you, and you get to cook them back with whatever you want.

[Host 3]

Okay.

[Host 1]

You gonna cook?

[Host 3]

Yeah. But men. That should go left quick, though. With a woman, it's like, okay, we can sit here doing. And then. I really can't because I feel whack if I'm doing that with a woman.

[Host 2]

You think Trump would feel whack?

[Host 3]

No, because he's insulted women. I don't think he has that in him at all. But I think that he's also good at, like, he'll say things and then. But it's kind of like almost common sense, though. It's like, why would you even ask that?

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

And then you think about it, like, yeah, why would she even. Why would that report even ask him that? Like, so it's like, are you not good at your job? He does that very well.

[Host 2]

But he's good at his job with the media because he can just completely ignore them. If they ask a question, he'll go, fake news, and that person will yell. Then their mic will fit, fade away, and they'll move. Fox, I like you today. What's that?

[Host 3]

He has a great engineer. That's all. A great engineer. He's a great engineer.

[Host 2]

Turn the verb up on Fox, please.

[Host 3]

Yeah. Joy, what has been some of your. Now that in podcasting away from television, what has been like your biggest adjustment, like, learning curve? Like, what did you learn? Because with your pod, you're more personal. I've heard you say things that I was surprised to learn about you, like, oh, word, Joy. Okay. How do you think that that has affected your following coming from television? Do you feel like you've given too much of your real self on your podcast or do you feel like, no, this is who I am and if you love Joy Taylor, then you accept all of it.

[Host 1]

I think when you step into a space where you're really talking about, I don't say sports isn't real shit, because there's definitely been moments in my career where I've shared really personal things through the lens of sports, whether it's domestic violence or racism, sexism, you know, things like that. Topics that we, you know, that have crossover, you kind of get the opportunity to do that. But when you're in the podcasting space or digital show space, to me, to cut through, you've got to give people something. So either you are, you know, a fantastic interviewer, so it's really about the guest entirely or you. And even with that, I think, I think some of the best interviewers are. I mean, obviously, you know, Taylor Brooks is, you know, one of the best, if not the best in the business. And she has this ability to see and like, meet people where they are. And I think when you're doing an interview or you're sharing something about yourself, it's kind of similar where you create an energy for people. I started in radio and I love radio because it brings people in the room with you. Like the best radio shows, you feel like you know them, you feel like you're in the room with them. And I think podcasting, because obviously you can see it, it's a little bit different because you can see the room that we're in. But creating an environment where people feel like, oh, I'm, I'm listening to this person. I like, I know someone like this person, or I've had a conversation like this before, or I'd like to have a conversation like this. And in order to do that, you got to give some of yourself and, you know, being front facing it, it requires a lot. Like it is kind of a performance, you know, and if you're not gonna, for me at least, if you're not gonna give a little bit to people that are there for you, then I don't know that it works. So, you know, there's always gonna be things that I keep to myself because I am a really private person. But I think, you know, we have real conversations every day. Like, that's, to me, like, all the stuff that we're talking about, the stuff that we were talking about off camera, which is. You guys didn't miss anything. It's, It's. It's the same. It's the same vibes. This is how people really talk to each other.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

So that's just. That's what I wanted to do. And it's been. It's been nice to be able to, like, curate and talk about the things that I want to talk about, because I think in the sports space, Colin is someone that I really respect in this. In this vein. You people are coming to you for sports. Like, whatever your brand is, whether it's sports and sports and politics or it's, you know, sports and pop culture or it's just sports. Like, people want to come and get what they've come for. You know, you want to go to the restaurant and order. What is this restaurant is supposed to serve. And I really respect that. Like, if I'm doing a sports show, people want to come here and they want to talk. They want to hear what we're thinking about. The sports, news, entertainment, of course, but sports.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

So I don't try to force in things to the sports show that. That don't belong.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

I mean, Colin has had his moments. Like, one of my favorite Colin moments is when he was talking about a situation with Fox and everything. Like, I haven't watched that entire rant anytime we're going through business negotiations, because I just think it's a very inspirational thing. But, yes, he keeps everything sports. Do you think a lot of that's a luxury of the sports world, that they can always hide behind that? Because, like with this Tyler Perry, for example, if we don't address it, we get killed in the comments. There's so many things that maybe we don't want to talk about or even really have an opinion on, to be quite honest, but we have to address them. Have you felt that balance is different? Because sports. I'd love if we could just come in every day and we're only talking about the Knicks. We're not really going to offend anyone. Like, I don't have to have some other outworldly opinion that's going to offend 50% of our listenership. Like. Like, it gets sometimes draining in that way.

[Host 3]

Do you.

[Host 2]

Have you felt that at all?

[Host 1]

No, because everybody.

[Host 2]

I hear you on that.

[Host 1]

And also, everybody doesn't have an opinion about everything. And I think that's where actually a lot of people get in trouble, is they give either uneducated opinions or forced opinions or inauthentic opinions or unenthusiastic opinions about things that probably require a little bit of research, a little bit of passion, a little bit of experience or asking questions. And the Internet will make you feel sometimes like you gotta have an opinion about everything, and you absolutely do not. Because everyone doesn't have an opinion about everything.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And just because you don't have an opinion about something doesn't mean that you don't care that it doesn't affect you. We're just human beings. There's only 24 hours in a day I gotta take a nap. I gotta get my nail fix. Like, I can't fix everything, think about everything, have an opinion, share about it. And I don't care about everything. So I think it's. So athletes run into this a lot when it comes to, like, social justice issues or something that's going on in their league or something's going on in the world. It's like there was a time where we had this expectation that athletes should always have an opinion about every big story. And it's like you want this motherfucker to score 30 points every night and win the game and rehab and give you thoughts on World War three geopolitics.

[Host 2]

Yeah. He came straight from high school where he didn't go to class his junior or senior year.

[Host 1]

He doesn't know. And. And that's okay, too. Maybe he.

[Host 2]

And why are you looking for him?

[Host 1]

Right.

[Host 2]

What opinion do you want from him?

[Host 1]

If he does have an opinion and it's educated, for sure, it's researched and he's passionate about it and it affects him and. Or her, and they want to talk about it. By all means, you should use your platform for that.

[Host 2]

But absolutely.

[Host 1]

Where are the leaders?

[Host 3]

Like, I think that's just people feeling like, you know, when you're a major figure in sports or music, entertainment, I think that people feel like, okay, we, you know, we've supported this artist or athlete and, you know, they're well off and rich, but do they still have that human connection? How do they feel about these issues that affect the communities that support them? So they want to hear from them. But like you said, we got to know who we asking. Like, we shouldn't be asking Anthony Edwards how he feels about The Israel, Iran conflict.

[Host 1]

Not unless Anthony Edwards has some real thoughts about it.

[Host 2]

Right. There can be a gray area between the insane thing of shut up and dribble, and every athlete needs to have an opinion on every geopolitic, financial situation that's happening in our country.

[Host 3]

Right.

[Host 2]

There's a gray area.

[Host 3]

Right.

[Host 2]

And that's where I think people are missing.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Yeah. And it's. You know, sometimes people walk into those spaces by having opinions about things, and then we grow accustomed to them having an opinion about everything or having, you know, something to say about every, you know, social justice issue or everything that's going on in their league, and they've kind of put themselves in that position. But I understand what you're saying. Like, there. There is this anxiety of, like, damn, I didn't talk about this. Or it seems like I'm avoiding it sometimes. I am. And what. Like, I'm not sharing my thoughts on that with y' all. And the. And you'll be fine. There's another place for it. And if you don't want to return because you think I'm being inauthentic or whatever, like, that is your choice. You don't. I appreciate you, but you don't have to be here. But what I'm not about to do, and I feel very strongly about this because I think your platform is something that you build and you have to have respect for. I'm not about to just say whatever, because I have really strong thoughts on lots of shit. And it's.

[Host 3]

Sometimes you could get in trouble for that.

[Host 2]

There's not anybody getting in trouble.

[Host 1]

I don't need to say it. Like, I.

[Host 3]

Everything doesn't need to be said. Yeah, I agree with you.

[Host 2]

Most of the things I think don't.

[Host 3]

Need to be said.

[Damaris]

And also, you have to ignore the pressure of feeling like you owe people your opinion on certain things just because you give it so often. Like, as a content creator, podcast, or whatever, we give our opinions on so much and we start. The fans make you feel like you owe me this. Like, I listen to you every day. You owe me this. And it's like, I don't owe you my thoughts. I give you my thoughts for free. You listen to them, you support, you buy merch, whatever. But I do not owe you my thoughts on anything. And I don't owe you an episode. I don't owe you shut up and shit.

[Host 2]

It's hilarious. Just shut up and talk.

[Host 3]

Just shut up and talk.

[Host 2]

But I mean. And even to people that in that very situation would probably break Like, I could never even fathom the situation the Clippers were in on a playoff run with an owner like that. And everyone's saying, like, oh, you're anti black if you play. Like, wait, I've been at this my whole life. This is my dream. I'm on a playoff run. One old racist. I'm gonna, I'm gonna quit, right. Because of him. And shit's not gonna change. It's not gonna change the ownership in the NBA if I quit it. Like, what do you do in that situation?

[Damaris]

Well, Joy, we have some listeners that call in. We have a voicemail segment where they call in and they ask for advice.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[Damaris]

And being that you have your personal.

[Host 3]

Joy was coming, like, so they could ask.

[Damaris]

Joy, I know, I know.

[Host 3]

Personal questions.

[Damaris]

But we're going to see, we're going to get your opinion on some stuff.

[Host 1]

You ready? Let's do it. Okay.

[Host 3]

You've got mail.

[Host 2]

These are sponsored by Boost.

[Host 3]

You know what's good? This AC from Austin, Texas, Red pill. This question for Baby D. How long it take a woman to get over a heartbreak? I'm just wondering, curious, you know, let me know your opinion. Appreciate you.

[Host 2]

Oh, he trying to get his girl.

[Host 3]

He got right to it.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

He didn't even give an explanation. That was the quickest, shortest voicemail of all time.

[Host 3]

13 seconds he got right. That was, I don't know, like, was that Boost? Was that an ad? Because he was like, listen, how long it take you to get a hard break?

[Host 1]

Peace and love questions for you.

[Damaris]

Well, I want your opinion.

[Host 3]

Well, I want both, both of the ladies to answer that question.

[Host 2]

How long is an open ended question.

[Host 3]

Let's start with Baby D. How long does it take me to get over a breakup?

[Host 1]

No, no, not a breakup.

[Damaris]

A heartbreak. Oh. Which is so much different. It depends on how long the heart been breaking. For real. Like, was it a slow break? Has it been breaking for 10 years? If it's been breaking for 10 years.

[Host 3]

Are you not clocking?

[Damaris]

Are you not clocking that I'm standing on business?

[Host 3]

Are you not clocking Baby D? Yeah.

[Host 2]

At that point, that's not a heartbreak. That's a lifestyle. You just, you just live in that misery.

[Damaris]

Now what, You've been in therapy a little bit too much. Like, you don't spread therapy.

[Host 1]

I don't.

[Host 2]

Like, I thought we were all doing the thing.

[Damaris]

Me personally, how long does it take me to get over a breakup?

[Host 3]

A broken heart.

[Damaris]

A broken heart?

[Host 2]

Never.

[Damaris]

I have to know. I'm not, I'm not gonna go back. I Have to know. I have to know that the heart is really broken. Like, I can't, like, patch it up with tape and glue. Like, damn. Like, this is really over.

[Host 2]

Got your dancing shoes on it.

[Damaris]

4 day.

[Host 1]

4.

[Damaris]

4 days riding in bed. If the heart has been breaking for a while.

[Host 3]

I'm sorry.

[Damaris]

That's why I said, how long has the heart been breaking for? Like, if I go.

[Host 3]

Because if it's been dragging on and you feel like that was an inevitable.

[Host 1]

Yes.

[Damaris]

Like, if I knew it was coming, it's like, all right, let me be depressed for four days. I won't eat, and then I'll lose, like, five pounds. I'll go out looking real skinny and get a new n. You see what I'm saying?

[Host 3]

But, Joy, what is this? That's the cosign. You don't you not jacking that. Nothing. Y' all gotta cut, man.

[Damaris]

But if it's a unexpected, like, oh, my God, this just happened, it might take me a while because I then I need, like, I need to think some things through. Like, okay, why did this happen? How did this happen? How did I not know that this was happening? Like, I didn't expect this. Then it might take me a couple months.

[Host 2]

Don't do that. Because we've both done the long, drawn out breakup before. And then once it's cut clean, you have to do the now it's gone breakup part. Those are two different heartbreaks.

[Damaris]

No, but that's not the four. But that's a breakup. I'm talking about a heartbreak, like, my heart is broken situation. I'm hurt. Like, that I'm not buying. Because you can have the breakup. You can have the breakup and the heartbreak not come till six months after the breakup. Or you could have the. You could get your heart broken and then still be in a relationship. And then by the time the relationship's over, it's like, oh, I healed from you, like, months ago. I was just waiting for this to end.

[Host 2]

If I can get over you in four days is you never broke my heart.

[Damaris]

But that's the. But that's the thing. It's not about getting.

[Host 3]

My bad.

[Damaris]

We have. We have company.

[Host 3]

Sorry, I have.

[Damaris]

We have company.

[Host 3]

Okay. Joy. No, Joy clocked it. She clocked it. She clocked it. She saved me. She clocked it. As long as she.

[Damaris]

What. What about you?

[Host 1]

Well, what we're talking about is grief. Yes. So. Because your heart can break for a lot of different reasons. I think he is. Sounds like he's asking about a relationship, which I think everybody again Is different. So I'm. I'm putting a lot of qualifiers on this so that everyone doesn't freak out. I think heartbreak. I understand what you're saying. If it's something that, like, I wasn't expecting, and I'm like, oh, wow, this happened, and it broke my heart. That is something that requires a full, you know, grief process of, like, the shock, the anger, you know, the sadness, and, like, the rotting, all of that. And it depends on how, you know, severe the heartbreak is. It depends on what was at stake. Like, the stakes, I think, change how long it takes to get over a heartbreak.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Like, if I was using her for her apartment, and now I'm on my ass.

[Host 1]

Yeah. I mean, but that's real, though.

[Host 3]

I'm outside the window with the radio. I'm on that. I ain't got nowhere to live. Oh, no, we gotta. We gotta make this right.

[Host 1]

But, I mean, I think it can take. I think it can take years to get over a real heartbreak.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

It can be a long process. Like, if you really. Like, when I think about the times, like, my heart's been broken, like, not sad, not, you know, disappointed. Like, a heartbreak is a real thing. You can die from a broken heart. So it takes time. And I think you have to be really gentle with yourself, too, because we want to go outside. But that's a. That's a part of the grieving process. Right? Is like the.

[Host 2]

There is. There is no time. I think what you're saying is important because there is no. Like, it's a week. It's what you do after the heartbreak that will probably increase the time of feeling happier if you do in a positive way. Like, I've tried to through the pain before, and I just.

[Host 1]

You said you tried to through the pain.

[Host 2]

Absolutely. Like, I've been heartbroken. Then just try to. A bunch of chicks like, this will make me feel better, felt worse. It's the things that you do after that will make that time less if you do them in a positive way.

[Host 1]

The biggest thing, though, is time.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Like, time is the only thing that heals those type of wounds.

[Host 3]

It's time. And then you got to get to that point where you start breaking down your partner, like, bitch, you really ugly. For real.

[Damaris]

Like, that's me. That's. See, that's not you. Not over it.

[Host 1]

You ain't over it.

[Host 3]

You got to get to that. Like, yo, I ain't even really. Like. Like, the way you dress like, you.

[Host 1]

I mean, what is it? Like, the opposite of love isn't Hate, it's indifference. Indifference. So when you. When you reach the point that you don't feel anything, that's when I think you're. You're over it. Like, the times that people have broken my heart, where I can think about it and I don't feel anything about them. I don't feel anger towards them. I don't. I don't forgive them, to be clear. But I don't feel anything about it. That, to me, is when you're. When you're over it.

[Damaris]

And then there's also the.

[Host 3]

But is that not a bad thing, though?

[Host 1]

What do you mean?

[Damaris]

No.

[Host 3]

Cause, like, I remember dating a girl and it was like, it ended, and I remember feeling like, damn, did I ever really, like, love and care about her? Because I. That feeling was like. I was like, all right. I guess, like, it didn't work out.

[Host 1]

I think it depends on what the love was like. A lot of us. I'll speak for myself, I think we attach anxiety, feelings of anxiety or toxicity with love. And if you. If you have your heart broken by somebody like that, if you don't feel that thing, you start to think, like, oh, like, like, did I love them? Because I know they didn't love me because they didn't treat me like they loved me, but it seems like this person loves me but doesn't. I don't feel as much of the. The. The spark or whatever that thing, the.

[Damaris]

Butterflies that increase in our mind.

[Host 1]

So I. I think it's important to remember where you were. Like, as I get older, I. I'm so much gentler to my younger self than I used to be. Because you can only make the decision that you have with information that you have at that time.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And even if you knew you were making a bad decision in that moment, you may not have known how bad of a decision it was or what it was going to cost you.

[Host 2]

You.

[Host 1]

So anytime that you're going through or processing any of this stuff, you just have to be gentle with where you were. Like, you're saying, like, you know, you feel like you didn't love her. Yeah, you did. But your. Your body heals, your emotions heal, your mind heals. Like, it's how we survive. We have to. We have to remember. It's why when we see people that we. We may have not had the best experience with, we're like, damn, you was funny, though.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Because your mind had to soften that experience to survive. You can't just live in the trauma of what they were or the sadness that you felt when it was over. So you heal yourself.

[Host 2]

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[Host 3]

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[Host 1]

It hasn't really. No, I'm doing fine.

[Host 3]

How.

[Host 2]

This is how.

[Damaris]

This is how for a while.

[Host 1]

How. How would you think it would affect it negatively?

[Host 3]

Because you probably more open and honest on your podcast than you are on television about your personal, you know, life and.

[Host 1]

Yeah, but in my real life, like, you gonna get joy.

[Host 3]

No, I get that part, but entendre. But like, because us, us podcasting, we speak about how, like, you meet people and, you know, they may have heard your podcast or they see clips of your podcast, they hear you say something and then they make this preconceived notion about the type of person that you may be.

[Host 1]

Oh, I don't date little boys, so I don't. I can't even. I can't even imagine. Like, there's just certain conversations I couldn't even imagine having. Like, oh, I saw this on your podcast. Like, is that how you really feel?

[Host 2]

Oh, imagine a decade of it.

[Damaris]

Oh, what it happened. People knew that happens.

[Host 3]

What?

[Host 1]

I can't even imagine this conversation. I cannot imagine my own man having this conversation with me.

[Host 3]

But listen, it's worse when you know people, right? Say you dated somebody and you know them before a podcast, okay? And now you have a podcast and then they hear you say something on your podcast and bring it to you in real life. And actually, like, the relationship would really change between y' all.

[Host 2]

Like, Your parents.

[Host 3]

Well, that's. Yeah, but that. That happens. It's like, yo, you know me for real. Like, what's wrong with you? Like, and it's like, it's a real. Like, oh, no, you said that like, that's how. Oh, I didn't know. That's a.

[Host 2]

What?

[Host 3]

Like, you know. You know me. We've known each other 10, 15 years. What are you talking about? Like, like that. That happens. Like, people will hear something in the clip and be like, have you had this experience?

[Damaris]

Yes, I've. I've had someone I was living with questioning me about things that happen on a podcast. I'm like, I'm like, you know, he.

[Host 3]

Know what her faults.

[Damaris]

You know everything about me. Why are you questioning me about something I'm talking about on a damn podcast?

[Host 2]

And usually it comes from selfish reasons of they feel that someone else is going to ask them about it. Not what you said. It's that, oh, someone may hear this.

[Host 3]

Like, yo, what's up with your man? Like, he on there talking about, bro.

[Host 1]

It sounds like they want a man with a different and woman with a different occupation. That's.

[Host 2]

No, but the worst.

[Damaris]

That's very important.

[Host 2]

So what I'm all saying is true. Something else that happens and that's okay. What it can be an adjustment.

[Host 3]

Like what? That's because they're dating them. A man with a different sex by birth or something.

[Host 2]

Oh, where did your brain even go? That's why I said I saw. The worst is actually when you meet people that you've already had this gig. Like, I met you this way.

[Host 3]

Way.

[Host 2]

Sorry, why are you even questioning me on this? I actually understand more of what Mo is saying of people that knew you before podcasting and are adjusting with you. Of, like, saying personal things that the world may have not known. Not anything crazy, but people that you meet when you were already in media and have the nerve to say anything are the ones that blow my mind. Like, you met me, right? Like, what do you. I'm gonna. I'm gonna stop doing this because you showed up.

[Damaris]

You came across like my clip. That's how you slid in my DMs. I don't know why you would think that. And I was saying, wow, you laughed back then. Now it's not funny. Yeah, because we have. That's crazy.

[Host 1]

I don't have any wood to knock on, but this has not happened to me yet. I don't know that it's ever happened to me in my career, but, yeah, I don't. I mean, that's just not. I don't think that's a conversation I would entertain. Like I'm. I'm almost 40 years old. I'm not talking about like I don't.

[Host 3]

Like be saying.

[Host 1]

Like. Like I. What I love for you is that you are still on your journey. Cuz I'm not your person.

[Host 3]

Right.

[Host 1]

And I. You are going to find the person that fulfills you and makes you confident.

[Host 2]

If a girl said that. Don't tell me. Don't tell me what journey I'm on.

[Host 3]

Don't tell me. I'm still.

[Host 2]

Don't tell me My journey.

[Host 1]

My journey. That's what I know. You're not. You're not on my journey.

[Host 3]

Girl, woman can't be like, yo, you're on your journey. I'm not on the journey.

[Host 1]

I'm at dinner with shots and there's where you. That's it. You got. This is where you get off.

[Damaris]

But to be fair, Joy doesn't say the wild that we. We say really wild things.

[Host 2]

Yeah. It's a.

[Damaris]

Hers is a little more calm.

[Host 2]

Unless they're like really a Steelers fan.

[Host 1]

I mean. Oh my God, man.

[Host 2]

But I mean yes, it. It had. It can lead to heartbreak which you know, leaves a void that I feel like only Jesus Christ can fill.

[Host 1]

It's true. He is. He is here. Wow.

[Damaris]

That was. That was call back heaven, wasn't it?

[Host 1]

Great full circle moment. That's also a part of. We're on different paths, you know. Oh yeah. We didn't give the guy his advice.

[Damaris]

I think he's. I think he's trying to figure out how long his girl is trying to get over him.

[Host 1]

But no, I think we gave him good advice. We don't know.

[Host 3]

We depends on what happened.

[Host 1]

How.

[Host 3]

What did you do?

[Host 1]

What did you do to her?

[Host 3]

What happened and what did you do?

[Host 1]

What did you do?

[Damaris]

Or maybe he's the new guy and he waiting for her to get over her own.

[Host 1]

Don't do that. That's my advice.

[Host 2]

That's because he didn't add any context. I felt like he was waiting on.

[Host 3]

A chick that was maybe said something right there.

[Host 2]

No, that's what I thought the whole was.

[Host 3]

Sometimes you be that. You be like, yo, like yo, that nigga's whack. You got me waiting like yo, that man, I'm trying to go to church tomorrow. What we doing?

[Host 1]

No, no, you don't. Don't be that person. Do not be the next. Don't be the heartbreak person. It's not going to work out.

[Host 3]

Yeah, don't be the heartbreak.

[Host 1]

Don't be the heartbreak healer.

[Host 3]

Don't be the rebound.

[Host 2]

Don't be Sam Ross.

[Host 3]

Unless you never be Sam Ross.

[Host 2]

Unless Ginger's always going to go.

[Host 3]

She was a boy. She was a hooa.

[Host 2]

A hua.

[Host 1]

Unless you're. Unless you're comfortable with not ever getting a full version of that person.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 3]

But Joy, sometimes you just want to go to Turks, though.

[Host 1]

That's what I'm saying. Like, go to Turks. By all means, go to Turks, but.

[Host 2]

Don'T go with expectations.

[Host 1]

Don't go with expectations.

[Host 3]

Yes. Okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Because the pictures you take, she gonna send to him and say, look what you missing out on. Hey, look, allegedly, I've never done it.

[Host 3]

Y' all be playing. Y' all be playing a dangerous game. Pictures.

[Host 1]

We play different games than. Than y' all play.

[Host 2]

Oh, y. Games are way similar.

[Host 3]

Y' all like to play with. Y' all like to go all the way. Like, y' all see death and y' all like to look at it, whereas we know, like, we don't want to go to jail.

[Host 1]

I don't want to go to jail either.

[Host 3]

Do you want to go to the cemetery?

[Damaris]

Come on.

[Host 1]

When it's. When it's time.

[Host 3]

What time it is.

[Host 1]

We. We all gonna end up there one day.

[Host 3]

No, but I'm just saying, you playing with, like, when. Like the marriage just said. I take you on vacation. You taking pictures. I'm taking pictures. I'm the photographer. And you sending the pictures that I took of you to your ex.

[Host 2]

And we're in international waters.

[Host 3]

Why y' all laughing at. I'm mad at y' all even laughed. That was something.

[Host 2]

That's not even funny.

[Host 3]

That's not even funny. A joke. Like, what the was that about?

[Host 2]

I think we're trying to have a serious conversation. You guys are laughing.

[Damaris]

Did we still have fun in Turks?

[Host 3]

Oh, we had a.

[Host 1]

This is why.

[Damaris]

What you don't know won't hurt you up.

[Host 3]

It's not that I'm worried about.

[Host 2]

First of all, the photographer owns the photos. That's my ip. I don't care if you in the photo. I own that photo.

[Host 1]

We can speak without speaking.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Is what just happened.

[Host 3]

Oh, no. I know y' all can. I know y' all spoke and I heard it, but what I'm saying is. Yeah, it was very loud, but it's just like. Cuz we can't do that as. We can't do that.

[Damaris]

I do stuff like that.

[Host 3]

I can't put my feet in the sand and send it to my ex. That ain't fly. What is that?

[Host 1]

Why would you send a picture of your feet?

[Host 3]

So she know where I'm at. Toes in the sand.

[Host 2]

If your ex cared about you, she'd know where you was at.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

The fact that you got to tell her she's over you, she gonna see.

[Host 3]

That coach line and be like, I know that ain't the vacation that I did.

[Host 1]

What's that? Why do men. Why do you have to be crazy for men to feel like you care.

[Host 2]

About them mommy issues?

[Host 3]

Oh, I don't feel like that. I don't.

[Host 1]

You don't?

[Host 3]

No, I don't. I don't think.

[Damaris]

I don't play that crazy all the time.

[Host 3]

They ask me, you never had a girl. I never had it.

[Host 2]

He's never had a girlfriend. Girl, he's never had.

[Host 3]

I never had a fight with a girl. Never. Like, nothing crazy, like. I've never experienced that type of relationship. Never more strict. Not that I'm strict. It's just that this is what it is and this is what it ain't. Yeah, but we gonna have a. We gonna have fun, though.

[Host 2]

She wears white after Labor Day. And that's his. That's his soulmate he's breaking up with.

[Host 3]

No, that's. That's stupid. I'm not that guy. But I just don't. Because I think, you know, when it's getting to that toxic point where it's like, disrespect is coming in. Like, we just saw the couple that. He killed her after he got off live. He killed his girl then, and the cops was chasing him, and he killed himself.

[Host 2]

It's like, a little more excessive than I think.

[Host 3]

But if you look. But I'm saying. But if you look at the ig live, they're arguing. It looks like it's playful. It's something. According to the comments, this is what they always did. Like, they get on each other's lives, start talking shit like, yeah, I caught him cheating. Now he mad. Da da da da da. Yeah, you fuck that nigga. Da da da da. Like, I ain't never touched no nigga. It was that type of relationship, like.

[Host 1]

Domestic violence and extreme abuse are. I think that's whatever murder suicide exists.

[Host 2]

But it's just not really.

[Host 3]

But what I'm saying is. But what I'm saying is, does it start somewhere?

[Host 1]

No, you're absolutely right. It does. And I'm. I'm talking about sort of the, like, more the more gentle version of this.

[Host 3]

Not.

[Host 1]

Not. Not. Not the starter kit for dragging On.

[Host 2]

A relationship of two people that shouldn't be together. Correct type of thing.

[Damaris]

Or. I called you 50 times. Private.

[Host 1]

Yeah, that's in that.

[Host 3]

That's never had that.

[Host 1]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 2]

I've always wanted. Do women not like. I know women think we're dumb sometimes, but why is this like the private 50 times? Oh, I'm gonna answer the 39th one.

[Host 1]

You've had someone call you 50 times?

[Host 2]

100.

[Host 1]

Good for you.

[Host 2]

And even after, like, the 50, never. No, you gotta listen.

[Host 1]

It's good. Yeah.

[Host 3]

Never.

[Host 2]

I was in touch.

[Host 3]

Nah, nah, nah, nah, Baby D. We can't do that. Baby D. Can't ask you if it's good.

[Host 2]

I was giving. I was giving it up like Tyler Perry in a text message.

[Host 3]

That's nasty.

[Damaris]

50 times calling some whack 50 times is crazy.

[Host 2]

Calling with your number, it getting blocked. And then calling from your homegirl's number that I know blocked. And then a private number. Like, I'm not going to understand the coincidence.

[Damaris]

You answered eventually.

[Host 3]

A lot of that be ego too, though.

[Host 2]

A couple days later, though, y' all.

[Host 3]

Want the last little get off. Like, y' all need that. Like if. If the man got the last get off in the whole back and forth and block and all of that. Sometimes a woman's ego, like.

[Host 2]

Nah.

[Host 3]

He can't just.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Back in my talks. Back in my toxic days, I. My ego is the most important thing to me. Once I know I've lost, like, the love, the ego. I gotta protect the ego.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

See, because I can't go outside like this.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Even though no one's watching. But God.

[Host 2]

But.

[Host 1]

What I'm not about to do is I'm not. I'm not. I can't because I'm egotistical. I have a lot of pride. So there's just certain things, like, it doesn't matter what the I want to do. You are not catching me outside acting like that. Absolutely not.

[Host 3]

Has not affected joy.

[Host 2]

Pride can turn on you in that way too, though, because pride can be good. In that instance of like, I'm not even dealing with this. I got too much pride to do with this psycho. Also, pride can be. I'm not letting this psycho get one up on over me. Let's go play in the mud.

[Host 1]

Yeah. No, no, you don't want to play in the mud. You have to determine what the. What the stakes are and what the win is. Like in any situation. You should ask your. What's the win here? Like, worst case scenario this. Best case scenario that. Worst case scenario is Pretty bad. It's probably for the best that you just leave that alone.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Or sing gospel on Instagram.

[Host 1]

Yeah. I mean, I don't. I hope you guys aren't speaking this over me because that's gonna be a really irritating conversation because the last time this happened was actually happened with the podcast because we were talking about this God awful splitting the bill conversation, which we will never be free of. We will never be. We have to let these shackles. I. I had never experienced it. Like, I still haven't experienced it myself, but I like, didn't even know this was like a real thing.

[Host 3]

Splitting the bill.

[Host 1]

Yeah. I mean, it's just. I don't know, it's really common. She's still confused. It still is very confusing to me. Like, it doesn't make any sense. Yeah.

[Host 3]

But are stumbling to pick that check up with joy, like, yo, I got.

[Host 1]

It's unimaginable.

[Host 3]

Have you ever. Have you ever reached like, pump fake.

[Host 1]

Reach for the bill for a like, very clear date?

[Damaris]

Date?

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

No.

[Host 3]

Never even pump faked for what? Just to see. Just to kind of test where he was at?

[Host 1]

No.

[Damaris]

Or a date? No, no. I've done it in my relationship. And then.

[Host 1]

Yeah, like, when you're in a relationship, we're not talking about in a relationship. I'm talking about like you. Or like, I called you said, listen.

[Host 3]

Let'S go to dinner tomorrow.

[Host 1]

I want to take you to dinner.

[Host 3]

Yeah. And then you think we're splitting the bill.

[Host 1]

They're splitting the bill.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

No, that's crazy because also it's like, if I like, say I was like, yo, like, I want to talk to you guys about like some business. Let's like go to dinner. I asked you, like, like, I'm going to pay for it and write it off, obviously, but, like.

[Host 3]

Cause they'll do that and still expect us to pick up the bill and you.

[Host 1]

No, no, no, no.

[Damaris]

No one's raised right.

[Host 1]

Anyone serious? But I don't want to get into explaining the Bell conversation. I just couldn't believe this was like a real thing that people were outside doing.

[Host 3]

Oh, yeah.

[Host 1]

And it happened to my girlfriend and I told a story on the podcast. And people still bring this shit up to me. Like, people still bring it up to me. A young man walked up to me at an event and he was like, like, you know, I gotta ask you, like, are you serious about the splitting the bill conversation? And I was like, can I I just have a follow up before I answer you? Like, how old are you? And he was like, I'm 24. I said, baby, I'm. I'm 38 years old. Shouldn't be worried about nothing I'm doing. Like, with all due respect, you have so much more life to live.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

You and I will never be in that situation. I wouldn't do that to you now unless.

[Host 2]

But he should also be 24, which.

[Host 1]

I'm out of the business of doing. So you used to me trust trick.

[Damaris]

The fine women be tricking. I'll be trying to tell y' all.

[Host 3]

Joy, when you was tricking Joy.

[Damaris]

Cut the more like how I miss this.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

So much.

[Host 2]

Real.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Host 3]

Wow.

[Host 1]

I'm retired. I will not be doing that no more. But yeah, for sure. It's fun sometimes.

[Host 2]

What's the most expensive thing?

[Host 3]

Yeah, but what's the tricking and what's the most.

[Host 2]

All right, two. Two part question. What's the most expensive item you bought? And then what's the most amount of just cash or wire that you gave Joy?

[Host 3]

Ain't never. Why no. No money. I'm not. I'm not buying that. Joy.

[Host 2]

It was your own management.

[Host 3]

Joy. You wired a man money before haircut money or like wiring a haircut money just as cute.

[Damaris]

Like cute.

[Host 1]

You can't how a wire cash app is wire now. Yeah. Is that.

[Host 2]

Are we technically that's.

[Host 1]

Why are you talking like Zell.

[Host 2]

Is.

[Host 1]

Officially a wire to, like pay for a wire. Like, I sent a wire today. I have to like pay for a wire. We talking about.

[Host 2]

Yeah. When you hit a high certain amount of money.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Okay. But any type of exchange of just.

[Host 3]

Know that let you know where she playing at. Joy, how much money have you sent the man before?

[Host 1]

I mean, this isn't really fair. Like in a relationship.

[Host 3]

Yeah, relationship.

[Host 1]

In a relationship. But like off the rip.

[Damaris]

Off the rip.

[Host 1]

Because off the rip I don't do.

[Host 3]

Okay. Okay. All right.

[Host 1]

Off the rip. I don't.

[Host 2]

And can you trick in a relationship?

[Damaris]

Women can.

[Host 3]

Men can't explain. Wait. Let Joy. Because this is a lot going on. Joy, you told you explain that.

[Host 1]

Let me say this. I'm exaggerating the trick part of it.

[Host 3]

Okay. Okay.

[Host 2]

These are. These are black magic cameras. They saw that twitch.

[Host 1]

Okay. So if you like. If you are like support someone. Is that tricking?

[Host 2]

Yes.

[Host 1]

Okay, then. Yeah.

[Host 3]

Guilty Support. Like pay rent. Rent.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

You paid first ballot hall of fame trick. Is it Joy, you fame. You paid a man's rent before that's first ballot.

[Host 3]

Like consistently.

[Host 2]

Like the person that has their speech ready before they even get just like.

[Host 3]

Yo, this month I ain't got it, Jo. Yo, my check coming in next month, baby. Can you hold me down?

[Host 1]

Like, no way.

[Damaris]

Well, I am through the mattress. He was putting you.

[Host 1]

I'm trying to find my way around this.

[Damaris]

Do the box spring?

[Host 1]

Does. Does it count if you live there?

[Host 3]

Okay, that's tricky.

[Host 2]

That's tricky for the trick. Yeah.

[Host 3]

Nah, if you live, it doesn't count.

[Host 1]

If you live there, it doesn't count.

[Damaris]

If you. You paid the whole rent, it don't count.

[Host 2]

No, but. But that's your girlfriend.

[Host 1]

What do you mean? Oh, it's not my boyfriend.

[Host 2]

Hell no.

[Host 1]

Oh, yeah.

[Damaris]

Well, did he, like, cook, take care of the kids? Like, you know, was he, like, I.

[Host 1]

Don'T have not one child I don't have.

[Host 3]

Not when they say somebody.

[Damaris]

Earn his keep.

[Host 1]

Yes, he did.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Host 2]

I don't know if that's tricking, per se.

[Host 3]

And what's earning you keep?

[Host 1]

No, no, no. Like, I've. I've. I've definitely. I've definitely tricked before, but, you know, like, this is why, like, the dynamics of a relationship are so complicated. Like, what. What a woman should do, what a man should do. That's why the splitting the bill conversation is so funny to me, because I'm like, you guys are. Everything is an absolute on the Internet. Like, I will not pay for a first date.

[Host 3]

Like, the ones saying that are the ones doing it right.

[Host 1]

Like, I don't. It's not even about, like, principle of, like, I'm a woman, I shall not pay.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

It's like, I'm a busy person, circumstances.

[Host 3]

Yeah, I get it.

[Host 1]

I take myself to rich auntie Mastro's dinners when I want to.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

So if you were going to come to me and ask me for a night of my life, like, when you think about the times that you've spent with people.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Like you gave them a day of your life.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

That's crazy. Like, one day you'll be on your deathbed, hopefully, and you'll be looking back like, damn, that got eight hours for me. Crazy. Like, I could use that right now. That's how I look at time. So if I'm going to have a dinner with you, like, I'm going to sit across from you, listen to you, and you have asked me to do this. I think it's respectful that you pay for it now. If you're 21 years old and you guys are just starting dating, you're just starting your careers, like, that's a different conversation when you're talking about.

[Host 2]

That's why you date among men.

[Host 1]

As a girl who has like, businesses and three full time jobs and an assistant, like, no. What do you mean? Why would I be. Why would I pay for you to eat food?

[Host 3]

Right.

[Host 1]

I could have just uber eats and killed them and watch Mobland. Like, that's not. This is not a good use of my time. And I just think it's more about respect than anything else. It's not even about, like, gender roles.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Great show like that.

[Host 2]

No, you make sense. And. And you're definitely talking to the wrong people because we definitely believe in men paying for dates.

[Damaris]

So they pay for my food as they should. Yeah.

[Host 2]

Yeah. I. I never understood why that was even like a conversation or debate on tw. Like, I think it's. I just always thought it found it like other people. Even when I was broke, I thought, that's okay.

[Damaris]

But that's okay.

[Host 1]

That's okay. Yeah. I've been broke. We've all been broke. Yeah, but if you are broke, why are you. Why are you bothering people?

[Host 3]

Why are you hungry?

[Host 1]

No, no.

[Damaris]

Being hungry is understandable, but why are.

[Host 1]

You worried about me being hungry? Yeah. Like this you worry about. I wasn't worried about paying for other people's food or not paying for food when I was. When I was broke. I think it's in general, though. Like, I. I feel like this is a little bit of a callback too. I just. I need to feel feminine, you know? Like, I just, just. There's not a whole lot men can do for me. I always say, like, all a man can do for me is love me. That doesn't require money. Like, it's about intentionality.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

So it's really not about, like, are we going to the nicest restaurant? Which is nice. And I appreciate, like, I know how.

[Host 3]

Much we go to some good hood spots too, though.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Or that too. But like, that too. Like, take me somewhere that is intentional. Like, this is a spot I like.

[Host 2]

Like, whatever into her work, you know?

[Damaris]

Y.

[Host 3]

You like fried shrimp? Shrimp is the best fried shrimp in the hood right here.

[Host 1]

Let's go. That sounds like a. That sounds like actually a more interesting time than going to a super expensive restaurant.

[Host 2]

But are you good in the hood?

[Host 3]

Cuz we might not make it.

[Host 2]

Figure that out first.

[Host 3]

That's why it's more interesting.

[Damaris]

Yo, we might not get out of there. A little risk.

[Host 1]

It's like a little survival test.

[Host 3]

Yeah. Keep the car. Keep the car running. You might not get out.

[Host 2]

Took me to your opps hood to get shrimp.

[Host 3]

Oh, yeah.

[Host 2]

Yeah, I think it's your journey.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

There's a lot of, like, gender wars going on right now, but I get stupid.

[Host 2]

Before we let you go, I want to ask because I have never been tricked on outside of what Damaris said as far as the mattress. I don't want to get in that world. How do I approach a woman and ask her how to trick on me?

[Host 1]

Phone calls? I don't know anything about that. Yeah.

[Host 2]

She wasn't tricking on me. She was probably. Probably needed some money.

[Host 3]

They always do.

[Host 2]

How do I get a woman. How do I approach a woman in. In the tricking situation?

[Host 1]

So you wanna. You wanna trick?

[Host 2]

I. I've never been tricked on.

[Host 3]

Crazy question. So you want to trick, but you ain't see this part? So you want to.

[Host 2]

Because I'm. I am not a trick, at least by my standards. I don't think I'm a trick, but I do pay for things without.

[Host 1]

You want to be tricked on or you want to be a trick?

[Host 2]

I don't want to be a trick. I've never been a trick. I want a girl to trick on me. It's never happened. Oh, how do I go about doing that?

[Host 1]

You don't. You don't have the survival of anxiety to. To do that.

[Host 2]

Oh. To go through the mental gymnastics of.

[Host 1]

Accepting, you know, I don't think you're built for it.

[Host 2]

Oh, yeah. No, I don't want to.

[Damaris]

You don't like.

[Host 2]

I don't want to be degraded.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you don't. It's not about being degraded. You don't like being bothered enough for. It's like you wouldn't be able to give what was necessary for someone.

[Host 1]

There's a certain level of, like, humility.

[Host 3]

Okay.

[Host 1]

Required for what you're talking about.

[Host 2]

We can leave it at that. I know. I know what you're saying.

[Host 1]

There's that gentle way of saying it.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Joy, please tell everybody the name of your PODC and where they can listen to it.

[Host 1]

Too Personal. You can subscribe on YouTube and enjoy on there too crazy podcast platforms and follow at Too Personal show. And we do a. We do a voicemail or advice segment to Never Too Personal, which is really fun, actually. Our episode this week is with Clarissa Shields. She's amazing. The champ. She was great. So love talking to her.

[Host 3]

And I'm gonna call and leave a voicemail. That's why it was me.

[Host 1]

How?

[Damaris]

We ain't gonna know you.

[Host 2]

I was saying we should leave one.

[Damaris]

As a pod, but change your voice right now.

[Host 1]

Yeah. And you can watch speak on FS1 weekdays with myself and Keyshawn Johnson and Paul Pierce. We have a good time.

[Host 3]

Shout out to Paul Pierce. Did he actually walk all the way to work after he lost that bet? He did.

[Host 2]

No. I need to see the GoPro footage.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

I don't believe I tried to warn him. I tried to talk him out of it.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

I was like, you are. You're not. Do it for the series.

[Host 3]

Like, yeah, yeah.

[Host 2]

Not for a game.

[Host 1]

Yeah, he was. And he chose the. The Forces, too, which is the wildest choice.

[Host 3]

Yeah. Shout out to poor Pierce.

[Host 2]

How many miles is that?

[Host 3]

It wasn't that long. It was like, what, 19. 19 miles long.

[Host 2]

Walk in forces.

[Host 3]

I know they was creased as 19 miles is crazy. Well, work walking 19 miles.

[Host 1]

It was a long. It was. It was a. It was a long day.

[Host 3]

And you got to time it, cuz you got to get there on time.

[Damaris]

Remember back when your grandparents used like, hey, y' all don't got school today? I walk 19 miles.

[Host 3]

19 miles. Like, I seen where your school was at. You just had to climb over a hill.

[Host 2]

Newark is not even 19 miles.

[Host 1]

The new forces, like the. You know, they. They sound like the. The distress forces which breaks my spirit.

[Host 2]

As a crazy, disgusting, nasty world.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

But this was great. Thank you so, so much. We appreciate it.

[Host 3]

Thank you, Joy. Glad we finally we turned small talk talking to big talk.

[Host 1]

We did. I apologize. Although it sounds like you guys are used to dealing with the comment section. Oh, being fired up, so.

[Host 3]

Oh, man.

[Host 1]

That's if I offended you.

[Host 2]

Decade in.

[Host 1]

Yeah, me, I don't care.

[Host 3]

Yeah. Love it. Shout out to Joy Taylor. Joy, thank you once again.

[Host 1]

Thank you, guys.

[Damaris]

Thank you.

[Host 3]

It's been a pleasure talking to your bastards. We'll be back soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that. He's just Ginger. Peace, no Worry.

[Host 2]

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[Host 3]

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[Host 2]

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[Host 3]

Yeah. Don't tell me you got me later.

[Host 2]

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[Host 3]

Right.

[Host 2]

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[Host 3]

Absolutely.

[Host 2]

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[Host 3]

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[Damaris]

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[Host 2]

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[Damaris]

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[Host 2]

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[Damaris]

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[Host 2]

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[Damaris]

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[Host 1]

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[Host 2]

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