Episode 406 | Guardian Angels

Summary

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New Rory & MAL – Episode 406 | “Guardian Angels”

Release Date: September 16, 2025
Hosts: Rory & Mal (with Baby D / Damaris)
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode, Rory, Mal, and Baby D (Damaris) catch up after a bustling weekend, riffing on everything from New York nightlife and social etiquette to mafia podcast beefs, viral boxing moments, rap beefs, and the peculiar legacy of the Guardian Angels. The conversation zig-zags through hilarious personal stories, cultural commentary, debates on music comebacks, and the quirks of modern technology—delivering the signature blend of humor, insight, and “random hot takes no one asked for."

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Weekend Recap: Strip Clubs, Festivals, & New York Antics

• Rory shares his escape from a strip-club night—with Damaris running interference so he could head back to the studio instead of participating in “throwing money we didn’t have at strippers to have an awful time.”
  • ([04:00]) "No, I didn't accidentally send Damaris a nude, okay? She was a good friend. I needed a break, and she went on a dummy mission..." – Rory
• Damaris and Mall trade jabs about being excluded from the night out and discuss New York’s quintessential “multi-stop” evenings (festival, dinner, hookah, and strip club).
• San Gennaro Festival shenanigans—including chicken parm at noon, Italian culture jokes, and whether steak for breakfast is ever acceptable.
  • ([08:50]) “I did some real old man sh*t before we recorded today. I went over to the festival and, at noon on a Monday, I got chicken parm, pasta, and meatballs. I'm exhausted.” – Rory

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2. The Mafia Podcast Beef: “Kendrick vs. Drake” for Mob PR

• Rory breaks down a wild moment in Mafia-genre podcasts: Joey Merlino (alleged Philly mob boss) and Gene Borrello (known informant) escalate their podcast beef into a real confrontation at the San Gennaro Festival.
  • ([13:00]) “This was like our 911 in the mafia YouTube genre.” – Rory
• Notable moment: Live YouTube streaming ends with an actual fight as Hootie (Gene’s friend) gets jumped on Mulberry Street, with Gene reacting on live from Tampa.
• Discussion: Is it dumb or brave to show up somewhere you know people want to jump you? Mall and Rory both agree: “Sometimes having balls means you’re just stupid.”
• Damaris humorously contrasts Mafia podcast beefs with more peaceful festival stories.

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3. Boxing Talk: Canelo vs. Crawford & Fight Culture

• Review of Canelo vs. Terence Crawford:
  • Mall admits surprise at how dominant Crawford was, calling him possibly greater than Floyd Mayweather as a “fighter,” though not as a “boxer.”
    • ([17:54]) “I think Terence Crawford is a much better fighter than Floyd Mayweather.” – Mall
  • Rory: “Boxing-wise, I don’t think there’s a single fighter better than Floyd at boxing. But yeah, Crawford would probably be a better fighter.” ([18:04])
• Undercard insanity—Mall describes Embilly vs. Martínez as “like they just met each other behind 711 and got it on. No defense. No head movement. Just haymakers.”
• Broadcast Critique: Rory feels Netflix missed shots due to bad camera work, wonders if the ringside producer knows boxing.
  • ([24:12]) “A lot of shots were missed because they didn’t get the camera angle…”
• Speculation on future fights: Jake Paul vs. Tank Davis, fantasy about Tyson vs. Floyd.

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4. Battle Rap: Mook vs. Hitman Holla

• Quick turnaround for the Takeover Battle League praised: New battles dropping within a day, unlike “Smack, where the footage takes six months.”
• Rory’s battle rap critique:
  • Hitman Holla is seen as a “basic rhymer” among top A-listers, and it showed in his battle against Mook:
    • ([29:42]) “He’s the most basic A-lister to me…”
• They debate how battle rap has shifted from gritty, street-level battles to more performative events.
• On Hitman’s angle about Mook’s past: Not as effective as intended—“I don’t think this is the arena where that’s going to hit the way you think it’s going to hit.” – Rory
• Conclusion: Mook is solidified as a GOAT in battle rap; to beat him requires “a different level.”

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5. Young Thug’s 7-Minute Apology Record & Music “Comebacks”

The Debate:

• Everyone clowns Thug’s 7-minute apology record:
  • “Apology is changed behavior and you should change the song. This was bad.” – Rory ([43:24])
  • “I don’t know if we needed this record.” – Mall
• Can Thug ever “come back” to his old level?
  • Damaris: “There’s a possibility Thug will never be as big as he was.”
  • Mall: Argues music quality is the only thing that will fix a tainted rep, citing Gunna’s post-scandal comeback (“If it’s good, people will follow.”).
  • Damaris: Counters that, due to shifts in public favor, sound, and industry politics, music alone isn’t enough anymore.
• What makes a real comeback in hip-hop?
  • Gunna’s return worked because the music hit—plus marketing, style, memes all lined up.
  • “If the music is good, everything is fine after that.” – Rory ([48:15])
  • Damaris cautions: “Sometimes, it doesn’t matter if the music is good.”

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6. Rap & Relationship Beefs: Glorilla, Mariah, & AI Dist Tracks

• Glorilla’s diss, AI songs, and the web of petty rap beefs—whether records are genuine, AI, or just inside jokes in the studio.
  • Damaris: “Have you ever heard a Juana Man reference in a diss record?” ([58:15])
• Social dynamics:
  • Damaris and Mall dissect how public relationships blow up on stage, group chats, social media, and (now) court evidence.
• Real talk: Damaris explains sometimes “good music isn’t enough,” especially if public perception is soured.

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7. Crime, Technology, & Urban Legends

• Debates about cameras, crime-solving tech, and getting away with murder in NYC and London. Key joke: “There’s more brims than Guardian Angels on Kingsbridge.”
• Mall and Rory on technology’s creep:
  • Apple Watches warning of heart attacks, Oura Rings monitoring illness, and the privacy creep—all fodder for skepticism and jokes about “data tracking.”
• Crime advice (satirical): “If you’re going to commit a crime, leave your phone. Don’t put the address in your GPS!”
• Netlfix and scammer shows: The hosts discuss their love for real-life scammer “fail” videos and the absurdity of putting fake check-tellers and call centre scammers on blast.

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8. The Guardian Angels: Outdated or Iconic?

• Exploring the Guardian Angels legacy—serious and comedic:
  • What’s the vetting process? “Do you just show up and get the beret?”
  • Damaris explains for non-NYers: “They’re a nonprofit, unarmed crime prevention group. It’s like the Peter Pan gang.” ([81:38])
  • Hosts imagine what it would be like to join, the possibility of live-streaming a shift, and joke about Guardian Angel x Kith merch collabs.
• Why aren’t they more visible? “I never saw a Guardian Angel on the train when I needed one.” – Mall
• Sign-up forms, summer fits, and whether Damaris would let her (hypothetical) kid join.
  • Mall: “I’d rather Amara be a Crip than a Guardian Angel at 16.”

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9. Listener Voicemail Segment:

• Highlight: Listener Lucretia (a therapist) describes linking with Manny (from Zoom Zoom Room/Patreon calls), asking if she should continue with him given his messy public heartbreak.
  • The hosts dissect if the call is genuine or “manipulation,” tease how attention-seeking and transparency play into relationships, and debate the ethics of therapist/patient boundaries—hilariously.
  • Damaris: “You might be the worst therapist I’ve ever heard.” ([97:26])

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10. Relationship & Cheating Q&A

• Why do men cheat? A listener asks if men cheat for love, attention, sex, excitement, or just because they can.
  • Consensus: Usually it’s about sex or novelty; "men cheat down."
  • Mall & Damaris riff on whether rampant cheating signals sex addiction, an internal void, or even suppressed sexuality:
  • ([112:39]) “If a man is just sleeping around with a bunch of women...he's probably gay.” – Mall
  • Damaris: “Something ain't being satiated, baby.”
  • Rory: Pushes back, arguing it’s usually just impulsivity or sex addiction, not latent homosexuality.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Rory (on Mafia Podcast Fights):

  • [13:14] “This was like our 911 in the mafia YouTube genre.”

• Mall (on Canelo vs. Crawford):

  • [17:54] “I think Terence Crawford is a much better fighter than Floyd Mayweather.”

• Rory (on good music being the cure):

  • [48:15] “If the music is good, everything is fine after that.”

• Damaris (on female friendships and drama):

  • [60:12] “You giggle on the phone with your nigga and he calling me ugly. Yeah, bitch, don’t speak to me.”

• Mall (on joining Guardian Angels):

  • [81:04] “Y’all ain’t gonna lie. I think I want to be a guardian angel. Why not?”

• Mall (on people getting caught for fake checks):

  • [69:46] “He said he had to give his man half. So now we had $1,000 for four felonies. Dumb as one of the greatest YouTube channels ever.”

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Important Segments & Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | |----|-----------------------| | 03:42 | Rory's misadventures with Damaris as "guardian angel" | | 08:50 | San Gennaro Fest & Old Man Italian Food talk | | 13:00 | Mafia podcast YouTube beef spills over into "real life" | | 17:54 | Boxing: Canelo vs Crawford—analysis and apology to Terence Crawford | | 29:42 | Battle Rap: Mook vs. Hitman Holla critique | | 43:24 | Young Thug's 7-minute apology song—a roast | | 49:01 | Rewriting Gunna’s comeback—after everyone called him a “rat” | | 58:15 | Glorilla's diss, AI tracks, and rap beef weirdness | | 65:12 | Tech anxieties: Oura Rings, Apple Watch, LifeAlert for Gen Z | | 81:38 | What are the Guardian Angels? (Explanation for non-NYers) | | 97:26 | Listener Voicemail: Therapist hooks up with a Patreon regular | | 112:39 | Cheating, sex addiction, and the “if you love women so much, maybe you’re gay” debate |

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Tone & Style

The show keeps its classic blend of irreverence, rapid banter, random laughter, and occasional moments of earnest cultural analysis. The humor is self-aware, delivered with an insider’s wink that expects listeners to keep up—whether it’s dissecting rap beefs, discussing jail calls, or theorizing on NYC’s urban myths. The chemistry between Rory, Mall, and Damaris is on full display, with plenty of roasting, “inside” jokes, and layered references.

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Summary Takeaway

If you missed this episode, you missed a funny, sprawling journey through the highs and lows of New York nightlife, the absurdities of modern urban life, modern rap drama, and the eternal question: Is making “good music” still enough for redemption? Plus, if you’re hoping to join the Guardian Angels (or just want to understand their legend), Rory & Mal will walk you through the process and the merch possibilities—with plenty of asides about scammer fails, resisting TikTok beef, and why your phone will always betray your criminal ambitions.

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For ongoing inside jokes, wild stories, and the most New York takes on pop culture, keep riding (and laughing) with Rory, Mal, and the team.

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(Summary excludes ads, intros/outros, and retains the tone and language of the hosts.)

Transcript

[Baby D]

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[Mall]

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[Mall]

The volume.

[Baby D]

No volume. Please don't end we're back. I feel it in your chest and we're back.

[Rory]

Tamaras asked Me not to do that. That's the only reason I did it. How's everyone doing?

[Mall]

I'm great. How are you feeling, man?

[Rory]

I feel great.

[Mall]

You look great.

[Rory]

I gotta. I really.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Oh, thanks, man. I appreciate that. Judging by, like, the lack of sleep I've been getting this past week, that actually makes me feel pretty good. I did get some sleep last night, though, so I feel way better than I did a couple days ago. But I'm. I'm happy to be here.

[Mall]

Good man.

[Rory]

Happy. To address the culture, who do you have to address?

[Mall]

It's something I could tell when you.

[Rory]

Have something that you energy.

[Mall]

And I walked in, like, you on your laptop, you sitting crazy close to the screen. Like. Like whenever you close to your laptop screen, I know that it's something that you can't wait to get on this couch and talk about, so. Or just sit in your chair and talk about something.

[Rory]

That's something we can talk about on Friday. What I was so close to the spring with. That's how close. Amari. Her iPad.

[Mall]

Yeah, once you say Friday, I know what it is.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah.

[Mall]

Listen, I haven't slept, so I left you alone. I didn't hit your phone all weekend. I know this is a busy, busy week for you, so.

[Rory]

Yeah. But other than that, everything is great. My weekend was cool. I had to apologize to Damaris. I. I sent her a nude.

[Mall]

Oh, my bad.

[Rory]

No, I didn't accidentally send Damaris a nude, okay? She was a good friend. I needed a break, and she went on a dummy mission for me to get some wild energy away from me. I did not want to go to a strip club. I wanted to go back to the studio. I had things to do. I was with a group of people that was gun ho on throwing money. We didn't have at strippers to have an awful time. So Damaris and Yom Mahomes came through for me and took this group of people to the strip club so I could go back to Jersey. Okay, but it's one of those, like, no good deed goes unpunished, okay? Because I know Damaris was going through it from the Lower east side to Queen.

[Mall]

See, that's corny. Why you ain't call me now?

[Baby D]

It's why I ain't called you.

[Mall]

See, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

[Rory]

Word of.

[Baby D]

On God.

[Mall]

You just said you didn't see me this weekend. We were supposed to hang out, right? I said, oh, yeah, we were. We did talk about watching the fight together. Come to find out you was in the strip club looking at ass and didn't hit my phone.

[Baby D]

Oh, word. You was coming from all the way the fuck up. Bumbafuck. Where you live all the way to Astoria to go to a strip club.

[Mall]

I mean, if you would have told me, like, yo, I got some friends with me. You know, like, we just hanging out.

[Rory]

Well, no, now I think about it, d', Maris, he could have, because we left from the office, we went to the San Geneiro festival, then we went to dinner with Sean, then the hookah spot, then the strip club. You would have just done the quintessential New York City date with us. You could have went to the strip.

[Baby D]

Club, would have killed himself by the third spot.

[Mall]

Yeah, for sure.

[Baby D]

He could have went to dinner with y', all, though. That was fucked up.

[Rory]

Yeah, but dinner was fucked up.

[Baby D]

No, he. I didn't go to dinner. Me and I was with yomi's partner. Shout out to her. I was with.

[Mall]

We were partner. Like her girlfriend?

[Baby D]

Yes.

[Mall]

Why not just say her girlfriend?

[Baby D]

Because that ain't nobody business.

[Mall]

What you mean, partner? Sounds crazy. Partner could be n. Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold on.

[Rory]

That's how ti. Everyone.

[Mall]

We got to stop this. Partner.

[Baby D]

Yes.

[Mall]

Like, if somebody's like, y' all so mall. He was with his partner. That sounds.

[Rory]

That sounds like I'm saying anytime I use partner, it's 100% with a gay couple. I've never said it with a straight couple.

[Mall]

That's so crazy, though.

[Baby D]

Just save a girlfriend in a work environment. Right. So this is corporate speak, but in a work environment, you're actually supposed to refer to them as your partner because it makes other people who are gay not have to out like that. They're dating similar sexes, so I'm used to using, like, partner in that.

[Mall]

But where's the corporate setting at?

[Rory]

We're a small corporate here.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

We graduated from llc. We're a small corporation.

[Mall]

Damaris. You can say girlfriend here. I promise you, nobody's gonna write you up. You're not gonna have no meeting. Like, you could just say, yo, yo, me. It was me, yomi and her girlfriend done. Like, Nobody's gonna be like, ah, see you Tuesday morning. What are you talking about?

[Rory]

Only you can only say significant other and partner in this office. Yeah, that's officially a law.

[Baby D]

I actually really like significant other. But we were out drinking. We split from Rory, and we were out drinking, and Rory went to dinner with Sean. Nice little. Nice dinner they had lined up. I walked Up, Sean, like you want something. I'm like, you ain't asked me if I wanted something before. You ordered like, damn.

[Rory]

We treated ourselves. Went to Tiger.

[Mall]

Okay, that's your spot. You like that spot?

[Rory]

I mean, it's a great spot.

[Mall]

Good spot. I like it.

[Baby D]

Why didn't ma Link? What did he do?

[Mall]

This was Friday.

[Baby D]

Yeah, no, this was Thursday.

[Rory]

We left from recording. Oh, you was here when? When some of the group came.

[Mall]

Okay. Oh, oh, that group.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Baby D]

Yeah, no, now. Oh, that group is who I was at the strip club with. You sure you wanted me to call you?

[Mall]

I'm cool.

[Rory]

And more. You gotta think that group.

[Mall]

I'm cool.

[Rory]

That group without alcohol is a lot.

[Mall]

Yeah, I'm now add in.

[Rory]

Add in a some mint hookah and some tequila and it was that type of time.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah. No. Thank you, Damaris, for not hitting my phone.

[Baby D]

You're so welcome.

[Mall]

I think Damaris has a great like Damaris, like she knows like me to an extent. Like she knows there's certain shit that I'm just not maul ain't fucking with it.

[Baby D]

Anything I've ever invited mall to was extremely calm. I didn't even invite ma to his own party. When I threw y' all after party. Like, he just came like out of respect. I didn't even invite him to his own after party.

[Mall]

Oh, at the Ned. Yeah, yeah, that was. That was cool though. It was a nice vibe, calm vibe and it wasn't, you know, nothing crazy.

[Rory]

Damaris did the old promoter trick and threw your name like, yo, he's on the way now. Be here.

[Baby D]

Yeah, but yeah, that was.

[Mall]

Damn.

[Rory]

A slate got canceled. I just saw him on stage in New York and we're in New York.

[Baby D]

That was crazy. But yeah, if you guys don't know the San Gennaro Fest, which is kind of like a Italian based festival in little Italian bases.

[Mall]

Hilarious Italian basis.

[Rory]

That's like partner and significant other.

[Mall]

What is the marriage doing today? It's an Italian based festival. Festival. What?

[Baby D]

It's really nice. They have all types of like, you know, they have like the orange, the fried orange. They at the. You could walk.

[Mall]

You mean like Italian cultures?

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

Like in Little Italy.

[Mall]

In Little Italy. In New York.

[Baby D]

So the festival is going on. There's a Ferris wheel.

[Rory]

Nobody gets on the Ferris wheel.

[Mall]

Well, kids do.

[Rory]

I did some real old man before we recorded today. I went over to the festival and at noon on a Monday, I got chicken parm, pasta and meatballs. I'm exhausted.

[Commercial Voice 3]

You're an old.

[Rory]

I was Gonna say you're an old.

[Mall]

Italian man who eats chicken parm at noon.

[Rory]

Noon on a Monday, not even a Saturday night.

[Baby D]

Well, it's better for you because now your body has more time to digest it before you lay down. So it's better for you to, when you eat heavy food, to walk around and digest it. Like, there's this restaurant I wanna go to, I think one Charles, it might be called. Super expensive. Super hard to get a reservation. But if you go in there when they open at like 11:30, 12:00', clock and get like steak, like, you could get a table.

[Mall]

But 11:30 in the morning? No, a steak. All right, man.

[Rory]

Steak and eggs.

[Mall]

Nah, fam, nah.

[Baby D]

No eggs, though.

[Mall]

It's like 11:30. Steak at 11:30 is crazy.

[Baby D]

But they say it's good. You got all day to walk it off.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah, eat a steak.

[Baby D]

And then laying right down. Crazy as fuck.

[Mall]

Yeah. That's like, if I see somebody eat a steak and just go hit the bed, I'm like, you all right? Like, you want to talk about it? What you going through, man? What's up with you? Like, we could just talk. You ain't got to kill yourself. You trying to die your sleep of heartburn. Like, what's up with you?

[Rory]

Well, that's why I can never rock with like, the IG baddies. Because you got to take them to those restaurants that serve like the big ass prime rib. And then you just watch her down a 14 ounce steak. It's like, I'm not. We not having sex.

[Mall]

You seen a girl finish a whole steak before? I don't think I've ever seen that. Like a whole steak damage. You finish a whole steak in one side?

[Baby D]

It depends on how big the snake is.

[Mall]

Okay. All right, that's true, I guess.

[Baby D]

Like a small little New York strip. I. I'll bust it down for sure. Like, you know what I'm saying? But like, I'm not eating a porter house.

[Mall]

You still be trying to be cute if you go on a date, like, and not like, really eat, eat or.

[Baby D]

No, it's not that I try to be cute, but there's just certain things I don't eat on a date because I don't want to be like, tooting and booting. Like.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

Laying next to a nigga. There's certain shit I just don't like. Like, I love. I love Mexican food. I don't eat Mexican food on dates. Yo, me and Alex ate Mexican food and went to the club. We some disrespectful bitches.

[Mall]

Y' all was farting.

[Rory]

Just crop dust in the section.

[Mall]

Yeah, you farting. Take your farting ass in the house, man. Take your farting ass home, man.

[Rory]

That's the only benefit of hookah lounges. At least it kills the smell. Cause, oh, my God, the food. People eat at hookah lounges. I know. They're sitting in that leather fucking chair farting up a storm for sure.

[Baby D]

Tearing them lamb chops up.

[Rory]

Mad scrambler, mad butter all over everything. Like. Nah, you farting. You're inhaling. You're inhaling and eating dairy.

[Mall]

How was the strip club? Strip club y' all went to Dream. Okay.

[Rory]

Oh, I thought y' all went to Starless.

[Baby D]

No, we. We went to Dream, and then I deserted your group and they went to Starlet's.

[Rory]

Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Mall]

I just don't got the energy.

[Baby D]

Yeah, no, I got home at 3am can you imagine? Had I went to a second strip club, what time I would have gotten home?

[Rory]

That's wild.

[Baby D]

Yeah. No. So.

[Rory]

So how was Dream?

[Baby D]

Dream was it wasn't nobody in there. It was like. I mean, you know, and then, you know, she complained about a stripper. She like, where the black girls at, baby? I can't. This is New York City. Everybody is race neutral around this. Like, I can't help you. They're gonna have one black girl. That's it.

[Rory]

Yeah, well, I mean, no starlets does. Yeah, it's mainly Spanish chicks, but, yeah, there's more black girls there, I think. But I don't know. Strip club Fashion Week, just. I. No fucking way I was doing that. But speaking of the festival, I know you guys don't care, but something crazy happened in my worlds. I know you guys don't listen to, like, the Mafia genre podcast world, but, like, Kendrick Drake happened for them at the festival on Saturday. So I'll give you the quickest, quickest backstory ever. Joey Merlino, who was the alleged boss of the Philadelphia mob, now has a podcast. Okay, you heard correctly. Not somebody that. That ratted. He. He could still very much be an active member of the Mafia, for all we know. He has a podcast. A lot of it's on a Patreon wall, but there is stuff on YouTube. There's this other guy, Gene Borrello, who did Rat, who started a podcast with another Rat. Then they split, but he has his own page now. He got into it with Joey Merlino, back and forth on some podcast beef. Joey Molino has a cheesesteak spot in Philadelphia. He opened for the festival. He had, like, a little booth and he said, I will be there at 4 o' clock on Saturday. No, this was on Saturday.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

Said on his YouTube page, on his shorts. We will be right at the stand at 4 o' clock on Saturday for anybody that has had anything to say. Gene Borrello has an ankle monitor. He's in Tampa. He can't leave. So we send his friend who he sometimes does, lives with Hootie on a dummy mission. Hootie also allegedly was an informant. So Hoodie said, I've lived in New York all my life. I go to Mulberry street whenever the fuck I want to go. He went by himself while on live. Him and Gene were on YouTube live. He got off the train, he's walking, walking all of 10 seconds. You hear a voice and then boom, the phone goes down and you just hear a whole fucking mess of feet and hands and then the screen goes black. Meanwhile, Gene just sitting there in Tampa like, they fighting? Are they fighting? Are they fighting? I know you guys don't are not part of that. That world interested. I listened to all that shit. That was the cr. I was glued. It was the first time in my life I ever hit a notification. Notify me when they go on live. I stopped what I was doing. I thought it was fake. I was like, no, there's no way this went exactly how we all thought it was going to go.

[Mall]

Why would he.

[Rory]

It almost looked like a skit.

[Mall]

But why would he even show up there? Why would he even go?

[Rory]

That's what. He doesn't even have beef with Joey Merlino. Gene does.

[Mall]

Yeah, but Joey couldn't get to Gene.

[Rory]

No, this was like pre destined. Like for a month. All Hootie and Gene were talking about was like, oh, we could go to the festival if we want to. And then Joey was like, well, I'm here and you guys have been talking shit about me for fucking a year.

[Baby D]

Damn, they was shaking at the fest. We don't be having them type of troubles at the fest. That's ghetto.

[Mall]

We don't have them problems. What? Did you not see what Guap dad did a couple years ago between him and Russian Russ, Right.

[Baby D]

At San Janeiro Fest. We don't have them type of problems. Like, it's very peaceful, kid friendly.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

It was an old dude playing the harmonica and people were dancing to it. You know what I'm saying?

[Mall]

Well, these are, these are some of the guys. These are.

[Rory]

But, but even with that, like, even when it was super active because it's not so much anymore, no violence would happen at the fest. Like, they all made sure that that wouldn't happen. Like, that was a rule. This is peaceful. Like, we make money off this. Don't come and up the money. So the fact that he went by himself and this is. So I watched Gene's, like, whole breakdown after he got the story. I guess Hootie held his own against getting jumped. Listen, man, I've been jumped before. Like, there's no. There's no shame. I just think you're dumb. Like, why would you go by yourself to a place where, you know everyone wants to beat you up? Yeah, but, I mean, I guess I respect it. Takes balls to do that. I just think it's. It's dumb balls. Sometimes having balls means you're just stupid. Yeah, but I guess he held his own. And Gene's. Gene's excuse of why it was whack was because the first guy that hit Hootie was a black guy, not an Italian guy. He was like, you sending black guys to go do your. Like, you couldn't do it.

[Mall]

No. What if he was a black Italian?

[Rory]

That is true. See, I'm just like. It's funny after people lose fights, like, the excuses they're trying to find.

[Mall]

He was a movie. Hit me.

[Rory]

Does that take the punch away? Because I don't think it does. But, I mean, listen, Gina Hoodie are very entertaining on YouTube. Like, I'm not here to on them. That's. That's their world and their business. When it comes to who rat it, I'm just. I'm a patron. I just watch. I think this is funny, but I'm telling you, this was. This was like our 911 in the mafia YouTube genre.

[Mall]

Well, I saw another fight this week, and it was in Las Vegas. It was in Vegas. The Canelo Crawford. The Canelo Crawford fight was this weekend, was Saturday in Vegas. And I think it kind of lived up to the expectations.

[Rory]

I mean, I won't. I have to come here and apologize to Terence Crawford. I apologize. I take back anything that I said.

[Mall]

What did you say, though?

[Rory]

I had Canelo winning.

[Mall]

Of course I wanted Crawford to win, but I did think Canelo was going.

[Rory]

To win, and I wasn't going to beat his ass. I just thought Canelo win. We said we'd probably go the distance, but this was a clear unanimous fight.

[Mall]

This was a clinic by Terrence Crawford. I think that he made a statement Saturday. I think that Terence Crawford might be one of the greatest fighters ever. At this point, I'm willing to say I think that Terence Crawford might be A better fighter than Floyd. Not a better boxer than Floyd.

[Rory]

Okay, I see what you're saying.

[Mall]

But he's a better fighter.

[Rory]

I see what you're saying.

[Mall]

I think Terrence Crawford is a much better fighter than Floyd Mayweather.

[Rory]

Yeah. Boxing wise, I don't think there's a single fighter better than Floyd at boxing. Boxing, like, technicality, mechanics. But yeah, I hear you. Crawford would probably be a better fighter.

[Mall]

I think Terence Crawford, that he. I did not expect him to perform the way that was almost too easy of a fight for Terrence Crawford. He didn't look like he was hurt at all. He didn't look like he was in trouble at any point of the fight. They both landed some nice shots. But I love what Canelo said after. Cause it was what I was thinking watching the fight. I might even said it when we was watching it. I was like, canelo don't even look like he can figure Crawford out. Like he don't even know, you know, like, where the shots are coming from. And he said it after the fight. He was like, yo, I really could not figure him out. But it looked that way when I'm watching it. And I've never seen Canelo look so, you know, like he didn't. Like he was trying to figure it out. Going into the eighth, ninth round, he was still trying to figure out Terrence Crawford out. I saw somebody say that on one of the judges scorecards going into the 11th round, they had it even. And that Crawford needed the 11th and 12th round to win the fight. I didn't think it was even, but that's. But see, that's Vegas.

[Rory]

I think Canelo maybe got one round, maybe two. But even the rounds that he won, he looked more gassed than Crawford did.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like the entire time I was still thinking, it's Canelo. And we were making fun of Max Kellerman before. Like, all it takes is one shot from Canelo and the whole fight can change.

[Mall]

All it takes is one shot from anybody.

[Rory]

I know, but Canelo specifically. Like, we've seen that happen before.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Where just one shot from him has completely changed the entire fight. Every round. I was like, it may come. But Crawford, he looked like he was like he was in better shape as the rounds went.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like he was not gassed whatsoever. And to your point of him maybe being the best fighter in the 11th round when Canelo, you know, had to start going for a little knockout. Shit. Cause I mean, in my opinion, it looked like it was completely over, scorecard wise. Crawford was brawling with him in the 11th round when I didn't think he needed to. Yeah, like, he. He fought him.

[Mall]

Yeah. No, it was. It was definitely a fight that, you know, there wasn't no running. Like, they definitely fought. But Canelo. I mean, I don't. Anybody that knows the sport of boxing and watched that fight. Canelo looked like a Canelo we've never seen before. I've never seen Canelo look that off his game. Didn't know what he wanted to do. Couldn't really catch him. And that's, you know, that's a salute to Terrence Crawford and just his preparation. But he's been talking. You know, it's good to see him win the fight because he has been talking like this for a while. Like, he knew for years that he could beat Canelo. Like, he said it. He never ran away from me. He never shied away from it. He was very adamant and, you know, that he could beat Canelo if he fought him. And he showed up Saturday night and did exactly that. It was a great fight. But the undercard fight, the Embilly Martinez fight, bro, I don't. We need to check, make sure those two gentlemen are okay. Cause they was fighting like they were. It was no ring. Like, they just met each other behind 711 and got it on. Like, there was no defense. There was no head movement, no, like, blocking punches. They were just throwing punches. Haymakers. And, like, was taking each other's best shot. And nobody got knocked down.

[Rory]

We were joking. In between the rounds, not one person in their corner said to either of them, hey, maybe put your hands up. Yeah, like, now the train was like, yo, you know, like, that boxing, one.

[Mall]

On one thing, bro, but, like, to get hit with those type of shots, and nobody fell. Like, nobody touched the game.

[Rory]

I just wanted somebody to suggest, like, all right, I like what you're doing, champ, but just maybe block one punch.

[Mall]

That was a. That was a great undercard like that fight, that. The amount of hitting and shots that was landed in that fight, that was the perfect undercut. Because I'm not gonna lie, man, these west coast fights, man, like, the older you get, it's tough to stay up for the main event, man, I was. I, like, everybody we had. We started, we made, like, espresso at, like, damn near midnight. Like, we was just trying to stay up. Like, everybody was, like, fading, falling asleep. And I'm like, damn. It's like another fight. It's one more undercard. Like, that's when Vargas and your local. Your lad.

[Rory]

Yeah. Why am I blanking?

[Mall]

Callum.

[Rory]

Yeah, okay. Callum.

[Mall]

That was that fight before the. I was like, bro, it's another undercard, like. And Billy Martinez. That was the. They could have got straight into Canelo Crawford after that one.

[Rory]

Well, where Netflix also fucked us up is when they put the image out. Vargas was supposed to be the last undercard. That's why even I was texting people to come.

[Mall]

He was the last undercard.

[Rory]

No.

[Mall]

Yeah, it was.

[Rory]

Oh, it was out of the order that we saw. That's why we thought there was not another undercard. And then it came out.

[Mall]

Vargas was the last undercard. I believe. I believe. If I. Like I said, we was dozing off and trying to stay up and, you.

[Baby D]

Know, you said you were texting people.

[Rory]

To what come up. Like, we were watching the fight in a different room of the studio.

[Baby D]

Oh, you were in the studio?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

Oh, okay.

[Rory]

So everyone's working. I was texting them like, oh, it's about to come on now. There was another undercoat. I was like, oh, wait, never mind. Go back.

[Mall]

Yeah, man, those west coast fights. Jesus.

[Rory]

But even, like, with the pay per view days, or like, even HBO. Yeah. The Mayweather would come out at 11:30 at night, but this was like 1:30.

[Mall]

This was after midnight. This was like, close to, like 12:30. 12:45.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's. I don't know. Netflix.

[Mall]

That's.

[Rory]

I can't do that. What. What do you think of Netflix overall with this?

[Mall]

I thought it was great. I thought they did a amazing job. I thought everything was. Was dope. I like the way they had Jason State Statham sitting ringside like they was filming a movie. He was sitting next to the Saudi prince that threw the flight, put the fight on. I was like, they're definitely shooting the movie right now.

[Rory]

I didn't know they had screens if you're ringside. I didn't know there were screens down below that you can watch. The whole time I'm looking at the Saudi guy, and everyone else's head is going with the fight. He just like this. I'm like, yo, this guy's so rich. The fight he threw, he doesn't even want to watch. He went ringside not to watch. And they told me, now there's a screen down there. I was like, why would you. Why would you be ringside? It's right there.

[Mall]

Yeah, but, you know, you get the different angles.

[Rory]

That was the one. My only critique with Netflix. Feel like whoever was the producer doing all the switches, they didn't hire someone that knows boxing. I felt like a lot of Shots were missed because they didn't get the camera angle. Like, there was a lot of shots I saw in the replay after. But because the camera angle was bad, they weren't. They weren't going with the fight.

[Mall]

I like when you. I like when you say stuff like that with no boxing. Because then we're gonna come to find out that the person that was, like, producing it was, like, produced the Ali Frazier fight.

[Rory]

Oh, well, then. Yeah, then he did.

[Mall]

It's gonna be the person that knows everything about boxing.

[Rory]

Then. Then he did a bad job.

[Mall]

Nothing about boxing.

[Rory]

Even when to switch in any sports with football, whatever. Like, that's a big part. So.

[Mall]

Yeah, but you can't. Viewer, you're gonna miss some of the shots. Like, you can't guess when he's gonna hit him with a left hook. Like, to get the.

[Rory]

The camera always on. On their back. I was like, you flipped the camera like a regular boxing match would be.

[Mall]

Oh, I think. I think they did a good job. But, I mean, this was definitely the most watched. I think the most watched fight ever, because obviously it was on Netflix. Yeah, but shout out to Crawford and Canelo. I don't know if it'll be. I know we said it'd be a rematch. I don't know if there will be.

[Rory]

I don't. I don't think Crawford needs to take that. Like, this was just a clear. A clear win.

[Mall]

I mean, but if they come back with. Because he may took home, I think, 50. A little over 50 million from this fight.

[Rory]

Didn't Canelo take 150? Yeah. Yeah.

[Mall]

So now if they come back to Crawford, like, hey, we got 200 for you.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

For the rematch. It's hard to take note of that.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm mad at that. Yeah.

[Rory]

But Netflix went. They went full blown with. With the celebrity shots. Like, even when I was watching the undercards, they were trying to find anybody famous. It was like the third lead in mash, and they would show it. I'm like, yo, who are these people? They keep showing. Like, you. You know, you can just like, either just cut to the ring or just do commentary. You don't always have to go through the stands and just find every celebrity.

[Mall]

They just want to let you know who's in the building, man. You know, the one person that wasn't there that was probably the most notable name is Floyd. I didn't see Floyd at the foot.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's a good point.

[Mall]

Yeah. I mean, unless he was there and they. I mean, I don't see the cameras missing Floyd. You can't miss Floyd Mayweather at a Vegas fight. But yeah, I didn't know why Floyd wasn't, wasn't in attendance for a fight that was, you know, as big as this one. But either way, it was a good fight. Entertaining. Shout out to Crawford, undoubtedly the king of boxing right now. And it was good to see him, you know, get the victory and take it back home to Nebraska.

[Rory]

Yeah, I was happy to see Tyson looked happy all cuddled up. Is that his wife? His girl?

[Mall]

That was Mike.

[Rory]

I've never like seen the couple reveal with Mike Tyson before. He looked happy, happy like that wasn't just some joint he met, that was.

[Mall]

A friend, you know, he was, might be his wife, maybe he may be married, I don't know.

[Rory]

But yeah, it was, it was, it was good to see Tyson not next to.

[Mall]

When is the Tyson Floyd fight? That's next year, right? February. February, yes. It's. So Jake Paul and Tank Davis is the next fight November 14th?

[Rory]

Yep. I mean, I, I have no backbone. I want to boycott this, but I'm a thousand percent gonna watch.

[Mall]

You have to watch, you have to, gotta watch this fight. I don't know where I land on it, I think, I mean, obviously Tank is the favorite, but I mean, I don't know, man.

[Rory]

I don't want to say though, though what happens, what happens if he loses? We gotta, we have to have a different Jake Paul converse, to have new Jake Paul conversations because he keeps beating people.

[Mall]

No, he not. He not. He not. He not being tanked.

[Rory]

We say that every time.

[Mall]

He not being tanked. I mean, I, I like, I was on when they, when they first announced this fight, I was kind of like, you know, Jake Paul's obviously the bigger guy. He can, you know, he hit, I guess you could say he hits hard. I don't know if we can say that he can hit Tank hard. Like, I don't know if Tank is going to be affected by how hard he hits, but yeah, no, he's not. Tank is not losing that fight.

[Rory]

This is why this is a simulation. This all started with Nate Robinson. Yeah, it did started with Nate Robinson and then it got to Floyd and Mike Tyson and now Tank in his prime. What the is going on?

[Mall]

Yeah, man. I mean, it's boxing, it's entertainment, man. Let's make it entertaining.

[Rory]

I guess we can stay in the boxing realm. But more on the battle rap side. Did you watch Murder, Mooc and Hitman Holler over the weekend?

[Mall]

I did, man. I Did shout out to Mook. I mean, Mook is, you know, it's one of the goats, man.

[Rory]

Well, shout out to the TAKEOVER Battle League. Cause this happened. I think it happened Saturday in Houston, right?

[Mall]

Yes.

[Rory]

Or Friday.

[Mall]

Yes, Saturday.

[Rory]

And it was out by Sunday night. If Smack had this battle, we would get it in spring 2026.

[Mall]

Yes, we get it right before the Tyson Mayweather.

[Rory]

Like I used to hate when they would announce and I was like, well, I can't go to the battle. So let me not even get excited because I don't have to wait six months to see all this. I don't even think summer, Matt, the last summer madness has come out yet.

[Mall]

Yeah. And we going.

[Rory]

We're going into fall, like summer madness. That would happen in August, we'd get that in December. So shout out to that league for keeping up with the times where we want the moment we see it. So I like that they turned it around. I like Hitman. Holla. Don't get me wrong. Like, as far as one of the A listers, as far as battling goes in the battle rap history, he's the most basic A lister to me.

[Mall]

Basic.

[Rory]

I'm not saying. I'm not in any way saying Hitman is trash, but out of all of his peers, the people that you would compare him to, he's the most basic rhymer. And I think that showed in this, this MOOC battle. Like it showed his ass when he was rapping next to Mook.

[Mall]

Well, I don't know. I mean, is that. That's not really a knock on. Cause you're with battle rap. It's, you know, from obviously somebody like Mook. Mook has been battle rapping since before it was like he was like literally walking to different neighborhoods, different blocks, battling whoever. Like he moot comes from that. Before it was so performative as it is now. Like now battle rap is a little more performative. It's a little more like, you know, spoken word. Kind of like it's a performance.

[Rory]

But I feel like Sirius Jones and Mook were actually kind of the ones that started that to where we even get Hitman. I just think they all did it with real intricate schemes that sounded basic. You can still perform it, but they're rapping, rapping. Hitman says cool shit, but it's like straight basic, which is fine because he's clearly won a bunch of battles and I think he's great. But I think that's why he was probably so successful on Wild N Out, why it's so funny.

[Baby D]

Just.

[Rory]

Just Basic right in your face. Here you go. A car.

[Mall]

Car, bar dar.

[Rory]

Like just there you go.

[Mall]

Yeah, but I think that, you know.

[Rory]

There'S no real schemes like that.

[Mall]

Yeah, but Mook is. He's just different. I think when you, when you somebody that again, you just, you just from a different era in this battle rap thing. I think that it's hard to be guys like that because, you know, the element is not as, you know, it's just not as tough as it once was. Like when you used to battle rap and go on somebody's block and stand in a circle on the sidewalk and like to come from that. And then now we on stage and it's just like, it's like, that's easy for Mook. Like, that's not. That's not a tough environment for him. Like, that's a more curated, safe, you know, like, environment for him to go in there and do what he does. Like Hitman, I mean, I think he comes from that as well. He was obviously after Mook, but, you know, Hitman has had his years of performing well in the battle rap. But I just think it's different. It's just different levels when it comes to guys like Mook and Lux and those guys. It's just a different, you know, like, you're gonna look different standing across from those guys because they just cut different when it comes to battle rap.

[Rory]

And yeah, again, I wasn't saying it, as you said, not like a slight to him because I think he's great. He should be talked about with the peers that he's talked about. He's proven that he has a resume for that. But it just. I don't know this one. I thought it was. It was 3 0. And with the information, with the information that Hitman had in the third round, especially somebody like Mook, who's been in this for so long, you think he's. We've heard every skeleton that he has in his closet with the information. I feel like Hitman made it so basic and didn't deliver well that it didn't even matter, which is crazy. And on top of that, I do applaud him for thinking the battle rap world cares about domestic violence. Like, this ain't. I don't think this is the arena where this is going to hit the way you think it's going to hit. Like, no, that's. That's crazy. And granted, if any of that is true, down to the. We'll say grape so we don't get demonetized. The grape in college that got him kicked out. Beating up his wife, beating up his daughter. Yeah, that's fucking nuts. If any of that is true, I just will care about it on the Twitter timeline. The battle rap. You think that side. Yeah, that didn't even move anyone in the crowd on stage.

[Mall]

No, this ain't.

[Rory]

This ain't the place.

[Mall]

Yeah, they didn't. They didn't care about that. I mean, I salute Hitman for.

[Rory]

That's what I'm saying.

[Mall]

Putting that whole thing together and, you know, for sure, that whole scheme and everything like that, you know, that's. That takes skill, but it just didn't land the way I thought Hitman thought it would land.

[Rory]

It was so fun. And salute to the battle rap community. I'm not saying all you guys don't care about domestic violence, but if you go look at Mass last round against Hollow, when he was talking about how Hollow schemed his man's out of the T shirt company and all that, that whole crowd was like, you're fat, you're fucked up, you foul all this. They care about scheming your man out of money, not beating up women.

[Mall]

No, they don't care.

[Rory]

You have to think about what.

[Mall]

Yeah, it just didn't land what this arena is. But I think that Mook, he. He definitely outperformed them all three rounds, though. I think it was 3, 0.

[Rory]

Mook went crazy.

[Mall]

Yeah. Outperforming. I don't know if there's anybody left for Mook to battle at this point. Like, who else is like. Guys like Mooc and Lux. It's like, who. Who do they battle?

[Rory]

Gotta wait for the. The younger guys to get better and have a. A longer resume so they can even get in that realm. But, yeah, I'm with you.

[Mall]

Yeah, it's like it's nobody.

[Rory]

It's, you know, I'm just moving daylight.

[Mall]

I don't know. Yeah, nah, I'm cool. But either way, shout out to. What is it? Takeover. Shout out to that platform. They definitely turned that. Turned that event around in less than a day. So that was dope to get that. Get that battle. Last night, I watched that shout out to Moog and Hitman. They both put on a. A great, you know, showing of skill and, And. And word play and things like that. But Moog is just different, man. Mooka's. He's a goat. He's top five when it comes to battle rap. I think that's solidified now. I know guys like to argue that and, you know, say that he's not. I don't know why they would even think that, but maybe my New York bias. But Mook is definitely one of the goats when it comes to battle rap. No for sure.

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[Rory]

I guess we have to stay on fights one more time. Young thug fighting is his past. Man, I miss my dog.

[Mall]

So Thursday when we was in the studio, Peach played the record and I thought it was a joke. I thought it was a A.I.

[Rory]

You know, a seven minute A.I. record is crazy.

[Mall]

I mean, I just thought it was.

[Rory]

That's a lot of data.

[Mall]

I just, like, I, I don't know, man. I don't know if we needed this.

[Rory]

You made it through the whole record.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Oh, I applaud you.

[Mall]

Me and Pete listen to it.

[Rory]

You ninja patience. Like, that's crazy.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That you made it through this record.

[Mall]

This was just not good. Like the, the music wasn't good, the rapping wasn't good. I, I mean, I understand the sentiment. Like, you know, it's like you apologizing to people that you know are hearing things that you're saying about them affected some relationships and things like that. I get it. I understand that sentiment. I don't know if we needed a seven minute record saying that. Like, just call these dudes individually, send a text.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Something like, you know, we didn't need. We didn't need this record.

[Rory]

Yeah, man. Apology is changed behavior and you should change the song. This is. This was bad.

[Mall]

Yeah, this is wasn't. This wasn't.

[Rory]

I read the Cliff Notes, though. I see he apologized to Mariah, to Drake, to who else? I just don't really care. I think Thug probably thinks people care more than they really do because the Internet just wants to make jokes. Nobody really cares.

[Mall]

Nobody cares about. I keep telling y', all, they just showed us the UFO flying straight through a missile. No, we talking about a young Thug apology record. Like, nobody cares about this. There are crazier things going on that people are just ignoring at this point. It's like, what the fuck is happening?

[Rory]

I just think it's kind of crazy that this is what it took for Thug to start putting out music because he's been quiet until all this leaked. Now he's putting out seven minute records. And I felt like he just put out an apology record last week too, that we thought was AI and then a video came out for it. So, yeah, this is one of those that I think we should just all move past.

[Mall]

But what does this mean for Thug? Like, moving forward? Like, what is, what does Thug sound like? What does his music sound like? Obviously, relationships are, you know, strained at this point. He probably doesn't have the relationships that he once had as far as in the industry and other artists and things like that. What does this mean for Thug? Like, what is this? What is this? How does this affect him?

[Rory]

I think it's, it's very much a post 444 in lemonade. I think we will get the Thug in Mariah the Scientist. Everything Is Love part two. Like, I think they'll do a joint album to, like, show solidarity.

[Mall]

Baby D.

[Baby D]

It might be over, bro.

[Rory]

I don't you think it's over for Thug?

[Baby D]

I, I. Okay, let's clarify. I'm not saying that I think that it's over for Thug. I think it. There's a possibility that Thug will never be as big as he was. And I think that in an era where and where people's. It's hard to come back and put out an album like, anyway, like, Gunna is The exception, not the rule. Once you've been, you know, gone for a while or like, once you kind of turn people off, it's hard. It's hard to come back and to get people invested.

[Mall]

So what Baby D is saying, it's hard to come back just if you just did a bid. Oh, come on. Like, that's because now it's like, you know, so much has changed. Sound, you know, slang and things like that.

[Baby D]

We move forward faster.

[Mall]

Yeah, cadences, like, a lot of things have changed in music. So you're playing catch up naturally when you go away and you gotta do a bid. But to now have relationships that you probably once leaned on that are not there anymore. The relationships you probably had that you leaned on creatively, you know, while you're in the studio, like, a lot of those things are no longer available to you because you can't even be around certain people anymore. You can't even hang out with certain people anymore. So a lot has changed for Thug just, you know, as far as life goes. So now when you talk about creative creating and writing and, you know, catching the vibe and the energy and, you know, a lot of that is things that people don't talk about that goes into making great music. You gotta catch that right energy, that moment, that pulse. It's a lot that goes, you know, that you don't really think about. That just kind of happens when you're in that. In that world that I don't think Thug probably has at this moment anymore. So, you know, his sound is definitely gonna change. What he talks about is gonna change, clearly. So it's like, does his audience. Do they follow that change? Do they follow that sound? Do they follow that new Thug? Do they follow? Or does he have to. Is this something where he has to literally just start from scratch and rebuild? Rebrand, you know, kind of like pivot his sound a little bit like I think Thug is. It's a lot of questions that he's probably having with his camp in his circle right now.

[Rory]

Everyone's gonna follow if it's good.

[Mall]

Like, oh, if it's good.

[Rory]

If Gunna. If Gunna came out and the music he put out right away was ass, the overall energy would be like, yo, Gunna's a rat. Fuck him. We don't support rats. But it was good. So everyone followed suit. And Gunna is probably bigger than he was before. Doug just has to focus on making good music. Like, that's it. People don't care. They will only go if the music is good now, if the Music sucks. People are just going to continue to say, like, yo, you. You were the complete opposite of what you were perceived as. We thought you were this guy, you're not that guy. And all of those rumors and shit will just keep following him. People forget when the music is good, everything is fine after that.

[Mall]

Yeah, you make good music. And you know, that's like the, the fix all, but everything is.

[Baby D]

It's not the fix all, though.

[Mall]

If you make good music.

[Baby D]

Plenty of people that make good music that people don't like. If you have a certain sound and your sound becomes dated while you're away or you become unlikable to the public, it is good music is not enough these days. There's plenty of people who make good music. There's plenty of people who make good music and y' all don't hear of them.

[Rory]

Wait, who.

[Mall]

Who I'm talking about that had like the spot, like, had the moment, but like, was a. A big name, big artist and then, you know, went away for whatever reason and then came back and. And made good music and nobody is paying them attention. Like, who.

[Baby D]

I would have to. I would have to secure. It was. I can't think about that off the top of my head. But that's like, good. I just don't feel like good music is enough.

[Rory]

Well, let's, let's use Gunna as an example. Let's. Let's not rewrite history. When that tape leaked of him saying, yes, ma', am, everyone hated Gunna. That was the consensus on the timeline. His, his old friends were tweeting shit. Everyone in the industry was unfollowing him. Let's not act like everyone loved Gunna the way they do now. Everyone loves Gunna because the music was good. He changed the narrative right away just because the music was great.

[Mall]

No, he changed everything. This nigga's in shape. He doing 5k runs through Central Park. Like, he doing all kind of different.

[Rory]

Shit, but I feel like he was actually refor the state of Georgia.

[Mall]

Oh yeah, he got. He got a. He got a peek behind that wall and was like, nigga, I'm never going to jail.

[Rory]

But it wasn't the first one ever corrected by the correction.

[Mall]

Doing juice cleanses and all kind of shit.

[Baby D]

And all of the things that you're naming also contributed. It wasn't just that the music was good. He had a hit and the music was good. But Gunna, the way that Gunna was marketed, the two shows that he did, the fact that his looks changed and he changed up his style, he Got more into fashion, he lost weight, he did all of those things.

[Mall]

He was always into fashion.

[Baby D]

Yeah, but all of those things, like it wasn't just the music was good.

[Rory]

All those things definitely help, but they won't matter unless the music is good. If Gunna said yes, ma', am, put out shitty music and then got in shape, no, like the best he would be. Would be a fitness influencer. Of course.

[Baby D]

The music has to be good. Okay, yes. So y' all miss what I'm saying? I'm not saying that if the music like it doesn't matter if the music is good. What I'm saying is the music has to be good. But just because the music is good doesn't mean that that will be enough. That doesn't automatically mean that that will be enough.

[Mall]

That fixes a lot though. Sometimes when you put out a banger, good start when you drop a joint.

[Baby D]

Who decides who decides what a banger is? And that's my thing, right? Like who decides what a banger? There's some songs, I'm sure that you guys have heard that in your head, it's a banger. But if the public doesn't perceive it that way, if it's not marketed the correct way, if the kids don't, if the kids don't catch onto it or know that it exists, it doesn'. Matter that the music is good because the right people aren't hearing it and uplifting it. And the time wasn't right. So that's why I said it doesn't. Sometimes it doesn't matter if the music is good.

[Rory]

Sure, and I hear you on that. But also Gunna capitalized on the moment no matter what, because the memes was good. All of us had our eyes on Gunna because we wanted to see what he was going to say. Everyone clicked that when he dropped that project immediately because we wanted. It was the moment. What's Gunna about to say? And we listened. It was like, oh, this is good. So we stayed with it. He capitalized on all of the eyes being on him. So at that point, all you have to do is deliver music because you know, no matter what, everyone wants to hear what you have to say. Now Thug is in the same position, but unfortunately the moment that happened was a bunch of leaked jail calls. Instead of music, all of our ears and eyes went to that. Now he still is going to have that moment. I don't think he should waste it on seven minute apologies. I think he should focus on records that we're actually going to fucking replay. Because all the eyes are on Thug. We want to know what he's gonna do. And I feel like he's wasting those moments on bullshit.

[Baby D]

Yeah. I feel like those moments. I feel like that moment has passed.

[Mall]

Which one?

[Baby D]

The moment where he should have put out a banger. I feel like it's passed.

[Rory]

I agree, but I.

[Mall]

How.

[Rory]

He.

[Mall]

He just. He didn't really put out shit. He didn't put nothing out except for this. This joint. And then obviously the. The Jeffrey files that they put out.

[Baby D]

But what I'm saying is, it's not about what he has put out. I'm saying the moment. Like, you've let other things eclipse the moment of you getting out of jail already. Like, that's. You've let other things esclipse the moment.

[Mall]

Yeah, but he'll still have moments. People still want to hear his music, though. Like, if he announces he's putting out an album next month, people are gonna listen to it.

[Rory]

Oh, no.

[Baby D]

For sure.

[Rory]

But you know what I'm saying. But they wanna hear what he does because of.

[Mall]

But his window.

[Baby D]

You only got one shot. Not missed a chance to blow.

[Rory]

I'm saying also, you see Top Gun too, phenomenal.

[Mall]

You see, when they had to drop them.

[Rory]

That mission, the precision Doug has.

[Mall]

To have, man, Thug got that type. He got one shot.

[Rory]

He has to hit Mach 10, man.

[Mall]

He got one shot. He got. And he got it. It gotta be a hit. It gotta be a hit. If not. I don't know if people go back to it. I'm gonna be honest. I don't know if they go back to, you know, he might have to find another artist and just kind of like, curate another, you know, upcoming artist and. And go that route. But, you know, it's just being honest. Like, I think he turned a lot of people off with a lot of these phone calls that are being put out again. I think a lot of, you know, favors that he may have thought he was gonna have coming home. And I think a lot of people are gonna kind of turn the shoulder on him now, like.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Cause like I said, we didn't finish hearing the tapes. Oh, definitely more phone calls coming.

[Rory]

If it went from artists. Couldn't wait to have the opportunity to work with Thug again to. I don't know if I should.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And to Damaris's point, too, with the likability thing, with this one shot. Yes, he has a window. People are going to pay attention. But if it's just average because he's become so unlikable, then you don't get a second chance after that. A likable person sometimes gets a second chance.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

An unlikable person. People are going to go in to listen, but if it is not undeniable, there's still going to be bias in your head of, I don't like this person.

[Mall]

I know what. I know what might help. I think I got it.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mall]

Thug got to do the ayahuasca.

[Baby D]

Oh, you mean, like, for the music or help, like, his life?

[Mall]

Just life. I think that's gonna unlock a whole nother thing for him. Yeah. I think if Thug do the ayahuasca, he gonna be all right.

[Rory]

I wouldn't know. I would love to, like, be able to watch and see what is in Thug's head during an ayahuasca. I would love to just be able to be on that journey with him.

[Mall]

Just.

[Rory]

Just watch, like. Just watch it, like. Yeah, I'm just a passenger. I'm just a passenger on the trip.

[Mall]

Like, Thug do the ayahuasca. He gonna drop a classic.

[Rory]

You know what he should do? He should do the ayahuasca and live stream it. Like, the. The Live Stream marathons. He should do the week of ayahuasca and. Yeah, the live stream should never leave.

[Mall]

He should go to Costa Rica. Go to Costa Rica. Go to a nice, like, village, you know, I mean, get your own villa type of thing. Get the shaman. Have the shaman come in.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Live stream the whole ayahuasca experience and then watch the music. Watch, watch, watch, watch what happens to the music after that?

[Rory]

And Kai, this is copywritten. So don't go rent a house and get Drew Ski and every celebrity in the world and all you guys do ayahuasca in the basement.

[Mall]

No, they could do it. We just got to be 30 days.

[Rory]

Of ayahuasca with all our favorite celebrities in Kai's house. You heard it here first.

[Mall]

Yeah. Do the Iowa. Thug do the Iowa. It's two artists I want to see do the ayahuasca. Thug and Kodak.

[Rory]

Yo. Yeah, I totally forgot to tell you.

[Mall]

You spoke to Kodak.

[Rory]

I'm driving home. I'm driving down the street a block away from my house, and I see Kodak Black.

[Mall]

Oh, my God. Why?

[Rory]

I totally meant to text you. I forgot. I was like, yo, I'm driving on the most random back block that makes sense. And then I later saw he was with Shout out to Albie. Al Albial took him to his hood in Jersey City. Marion.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

But I must have caught them when they were, like, walking out. Cause I'M like, why is. Why is Kodak black walking on my block right now?

[Mall]

Yeah, that's fire.

[Rory]

I double took. I was like, that wasn't Kodak.

[Mall]

No, that's cool. That's cool. That. Those are two. Those are two rappers. I want to see Take the Ayahuasca, Young Thug and Kodak. I think that'd be like.

[Rory]

I feel like Kodak would come out with a British accent. Like, I feel like he'd be a whole different man.

[Mall]

That album he put out, that. That first song straight off the Ayahuasca that Kodak put out, I'm telling you, I would love to see it.

[Rory]

Was that. Was that Glorilla thing AI, or was it a real disc? Because I saw over the weekend after I couldn't get through the Young Thug seven minute record, some type of leak happened with Gorilla.

[Mall]

Right.

[Rory]

But if it sounded like AI to me.

[Baby D]

So. AI or not, have you guys heard the dis?

[Rory]

Yeah, I heard it and again, I thought I heard a snippet at first and I thought it was AI. And then the full record came out and everyone was saying it wasn't AI. This might be the first time. I wish somebody tweeted instead of wrapped. Like, if she just would have tweeted all of these, like, all day, that would have been kind of funny to me.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But I mean, I don't know if it. If it leaked. Maybe she was just trying some in the studio and thought it was funny. But again, it's not like the biggest deal. It's a le call of Doug saying she's unattractive.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, I don't think it warrants like this. This is war. So.

[Mall]

Yeah, I don't think it was that.

[Rory]

Yeah, just make a funny little record. It's whatever.

[Mall]

It's just a funny record. She just went in there and just, you know, wanted to just take some shots at Thug and, you know, get her guess, get her lick back. Just talking. But it ain't, you know, it's not like this ain't kissing beans.

[Baby D]

Mariah caught some. Some strays in there as well.

[Rory]

Which, which. Which ones were her?

[Baby D]

The ones at the bottom. Josh, pull up those lyrics again. The ones at the bottom. She said something like, burning blue your stay cheating burning you it's all the.

[Mall]

Way at the bottom, Josh.

[Rory]

I just never thought I would hear a Juana man reference in a DIS record.

[Baby D]

Burning blue Cheating ass Burning you looking ass like Velma off Scooby Doo looking ass Anchor on the news Looking ass. You don't think she Cute looking ass. Only if you knew looking ass. Beauty in the freak brain size of a P. Don't care if he cheat long as he come to me come home to me like that. Yeah.

[Rory]

I will say though, she did cut him up.

[Mall]

Mariah looked like Velma off Scooby Doo. I wouldn't even think Glorilla knew who Velmo or Scooby Doo was.

[Rory]

I didn't think she'd know what Juana man is.

[Mall]

Glorilla, she's young. Scooby Doo was a cartoon before I was born.

[Baby D]

She's young. She ain't that young.

[Rory]

Glorilla, she's 26.

[Baby D]

That's not that young.

[Mall]

A 26 year old knowing about Scooby Doo.

[Rory]

Scooby Doo was old when I not.

[Mall]

Only know about it, but to reference like one of the characters, how they look like. I would not think that Glorilla would know who Velda off Scooby Doo was.

[Baby D]

Yeah, like, Scooby Doo is like the kids know who Scooby Doo is. Even like when you said Joanna, man. I'm like, the kids know who that is because that they were watching when they were really, really, really young.

[Rory]

I thought I was really young when Juana man came out. All I know is genie that's trapped in a vase is hilarious. How you.

[Mall]

That's what she said about Mariah.

[Rory]

I don't know who she's talking about.

[Mall]

She said.

[Baby D]

She said that about Thug, that he.

[Mall]

Looks like a genie trapped in a vase. That's kind of funny.

[Rory]

That's hilarious. Giving little kids a frightening look. Yeah, no, there was some very funny lines in this thing.

[Mall]

Yeah, I think everybody's just bored.

[Rory]

Yeah, I think she was probably in the studio really just shooting the. And having fun. Like, I don't think. Yeah, they probably was cutting his ass in the studio and someone's like, let's record this. Yeah, I'm sure that's how it went, but yeah, I'm glad it didn't make it to dsps. But I'm not mad at what GLOW really did because it's not that serious of a thing. So it's just a funny something to.

[Mall]

Just put out there. So now her and Mariah, they not cool. Like, it's over.

[Baby D]

I would assume so. I don't have insight on that, but I would assume so. Okay, well, you giggle on the phone with your nigga and he calling me ugly. Yeah, bitch, don't speak to me.

[Mall]

I feel that.

[Baby D]

Yeah, that's me personally.

[Mall]

But yeah.

[Rory]

Oh, I thought y' all were Talking about Thug and Mariah, it's definitely Glorilla and Mariah are not gonna fuck with each other after that.

[Baby D]

Well, Thug bought. I mean, Mariah bought Thug on stage for one of her performances recently, so.

[Mall]

That was all bad. I saw that clip. That was bad. Yeah, yeah, that was bad.

[Baby D]

That nigga said he went to sing, like, one lyric of the song, bro. TikTok comments. I know y' all don't be on TikTok. TikTok comments are the funniest comment section in the world, I think because the majority of it be, like, younger kids and, like, women, bro. The shit they be saying is fucking hilarious. TikTok comments are the funniest fucking TikTok, like, the funniest comment section in the world. Like, y' all gotta go. The Tick tock comments on that thing where he was up on stage with her. They was tearing his ass up. That's what I'm saying. Like, once you don't piss the women off, like, is Jay Z still be catching strays for lemonade? The girls still be on his ass?

[Rory]

Like, I just. I don't know. I feel like she should have just waited.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, I don't know if now's the time to.

[Baby D]

Nope.

[Rory]

Bring Thug out.

[Baby D]

Holding my man down.

[Rory]

I mean, it's us over them.

[Baby D]

They still together every time. She bought him on stage.

[Rory]

I would assume so.

[Mall]

But didn't he say, like, didn't he tweet something about chapter clothes?

[Baby D]

This was after, though. This was after.

[Rory]

I think that was after he did his apologies and was like, this chapter of all this shit is done. That's how I took it. I didn't take it as. That makes sense of like, hey, let's stop talking like, it's done now. I apologize to everyone. This conversation is over.

[Baby D]

But that's why when y' all beefing, you can't let the public know y' all beefing. Cause you gonna spin that block.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

Like, you just gotta shh, keep it low.

[Mall]

Yeah, but you spin the block until you, you know me. Until you don't spend a block. Like you ever had that one person you like, yo, they gonna spin spins, and then the spins then never come back. You look up. It's been like two years. Like, oh, this. It's over.

[Rory]

Yeah, sounds fun. It's heartbreaking.

[Mall]

The spin is over.

[Rory]

Oh, God. Did she perform her AI dish? I'm not even. I'm not even entertaining it. I'm not even. I'm not even entertaining with a big smile.

[Mall]

Ain't nobody clocking that clock broke. We don't even know. Just shut the up.

[Rory]

It's not right.

[Mall]

Twice a day, like, yo, just whatever, man.

[Rory]

Did she perform her AI disc?

[Baby D]

No, I would assume not. There's an AI disc for Mariah?

[Rory]

Yeah, we're on the timeline.

[Baby D]

You know what's so crazy? I love Mariah music so much, I might like the AI Diss.

[Rory]

Like, that's your hard, Josh.

[Mall]

You play it.

[Rory]

Because I. I think we can play it because it's AI. We won't get flagged.

[Mall]

So I said they knew that was like, the AI sing better than Mariah.

[Rory]

That's up.

[Baby D]

How could I be so naive to let this play with me? You think you got one love on me?

[Rory]

You claim to be free but tell.

[Baby D]

Her how you the whole industry and your ain't nothing but basic Just like all your chains you better take check about me and wait. Didn't you say your body was your king? Please turn this off. This? This. Whoever wrote this, who wrote this? Like, y' all don't listen to Mariah at all.

[Mall]

That's AI.

[Rory]

No one was asking was AI.

[Baby D]

People usually write the songs and then have the AI sing it. Like, people usually write and then have AI sing it.

[Rory]

But, I mean, some of the bars went over my head. Did she in fact say that young thug has a pussy and then it said his pussy's also whack?

[Baby D]

She was dissing Glorilla.

[Rory]

Oh, okay. I thought that was to Thug, too.

[Baby D]

No, that's not, like.

[Rory]

Because she started out talking about Thug, though. She started out talking about thug. I thought it was a thug.

[Baby D]

He's your man.

[Mall]

Rory be so clueless sometimes.

[Baby D]

I just.

[Mall]

Oh, I thought that was about. How did you think she was.

[Rory]

He wears a dress. I thought, like. No, man, that was like, some real. Some real bars right there.

[Mall]

She wasn't. She wasn't giving us, like, on top.

[Rory]

Well, she weaved out because started out dissing Thug. I didn't know we were going right to Gorilla. Without any change of subject.

[Mall]

All of that is looped in. Y' all both getting it. I'm shooting at both of y'. All. But that's. But that's so whack, though, because, like, if I just feel like they, you know, rappers gotta. They could use that as a crutch now. Oh, like, if it's whack and I'm like this trash, man. That's AI.

[Rory]

Not like, they get.

[Mall]

You could fall on the AI excuse. Like, that's like the lol. The AI is the new lol.

[Baby D]

But I feel like people can. People in tech can probably go in and find out, but they need to.

[Rory]

Like, make for, like, regular pedestrians like us. There needs to be an AI program that can tell us if this is AI. The way they check the diamonds with that little thingy, we need that for, like, the average person should be able to take a file that they.

[Mall]

No, that's what you tell us. That. The same way y' all keep telling me to turn my headphones down when I just. I just. I'm listening to one song. Like, yo, based on your last seven days, you should turn your volume down. This knocking. Shut up. Turn. Actually, I want the. Up. Yeah. I want the ipods to be louder. Like, I hate. The ipod's not even loud enough to me no more.

[Baby D]

AirPods, baby.

[Mall]

The AirPods. I'm sorry? I said iPods. AirPods. AirPods. Ain't they not loud enough for me no more?

[Rory]

Doesn't the new, like, Apple watch or something tell you when you're about to have a heart attack? Did I read that somewhere correctly? The next one, which is like, that's great. That's a good way for technology to help. But, like, imagine you just, like, we chilling on the pod and I just get a notification like, here, you're gonna have a heart attack in, like, three minutes.

[Mall]

Oh, you gotta take a aspirin. What is it? Bear. Until you take. Take two bears and. And relax. Yeah. So I need to get that. That's dope, though. If the. If it's gonna tell you if you.

[Rory]

Can do that automatically, call 91 1. Like, I don't want to look at my watch. Like, you. Sometimes. I've had an Apple watch. Sometimes you get a notification. You. You just keep doing what you're doing. Like, there needs to be, like, a loud horn if I'm about to have a heart attack.

[Mall]

Oh, no. I'm sure, like, some type of alert.

[Rory]

Don't just give me a ding, ding. Like, no, no. Literally scream from Siri's voice.

[Mall]

We come such a long way from the monitor that old people used to have when they used to push the button and call the police when they fell in their home.

[Rory]

Life alert.

[Mall]

Yeah, Life alert.

[Rory]

Some of the greatest commercials of all time. Oh, my God, I've fallen and I can't get up.

[Mall]

Yeah. Like, how do you.

[Rory]

Yeah, yo, old people used to wear them shits like. Like Jesus pieces.

[Mall]

You had to. That was the Jesus piece. If you didn't have that, he was going to see Jesus. If you didn't have that on as an old person.

[Rory]

No, that was old people drip for real.

[Mall]

And they needed that. Yeah. If the new Apple watch is doing that, then, yeah, I'm in. I've been told about getting an Apple watch, but if it's doing that on the next one, I'm definitely getting it.

[Baby D]

The aura rink Aura wing. The aura ring does that as well. Tell you when you, like, you're about to get sick. Alex has it. She'll be like, yeah, the aura ring told me, like, I've had a fever the past couple days. I'm probably about to get sick.

[Rory]

But is that, like, one that's, like, connected to, like, astrology or it's science. Like, like, real. Okay. Wasn't sure. Like, your Virgo moon's rising. You may get sick this month.

[Mall]

Your vote, your Virgo moon is, if that's. Like, you might catch a cold.

[Baby D]

No, the aura. It's not aura. Like a. It's not like a aura. O U r. Okay, gotcha.

[Mall]

Yes, I've seen that. I've seen that. Yes, I've seen that. And it does what?

[Baby D]

It tracks, like, your temperature, your core body temperature, how long you're asleep. Like, those kind of things.

[Mall]

Where does. I hate that I'm this guy now. Where does that information go to? Like, who else?

[Baby D]

Oh, you know who it goes to.

[Mall]

That shit is, bro. That's just tracking people.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Like, let's just call it what it is. That type of shit is just tracking you.

[Baby D]

Like, listen, you don't gotta use it.

[Mall]

I watched too much first 48. I could kill all of y' all and get away with it. Not y'. All. Not y' all in particular here. I'm just saying, like, I watched so much first 48. I know when they up. She had your phone with you. You're done.

[Baby D]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Mall]

Got his phone with him on a drill.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

What? You might as well live stream it.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

And calling. Calling your homie like, yo, I'm about to go.

[Mall]

You niggas take y'. All. You take your. Yo, you know how sick you gotta be to know that we about to go shoot this whole block up. And you be like, you in the car. Y' all about to leave. Like, hold on. I left my phone. And you go back and get it.

[Rory]

Mo, there was one case I saw where they thought they were smart. None of them brought their phones. They put in the address in their GPS to go murder somebody.

[Baby D]

Oh, my.

[Rory]

And they seized the car and was like, duh. This goes from your house to the murder scene at the right Time. What the people are, yo, GPSing to a homicide is the funniest thing in the world to me.

[Mall]

So imagine now I got a aura ring on, and I'm going, drew, just go sit in the cell. Just go. Just that back one, that last one. Open it and go sit down.

[Baby D]

I saw this lady. Her and her. Her side nigga killed her. Like, her husband. But, like, she had a ring camera in front of her own crib that showed them going in and out. Bitch, it's your ring camera. Like, you. It's your crib. You didn't think to disable the fucking ring camera before you went and murked your fucking husband.

[Mall]

I found a new YouTube channel that I love. It's the one where they catch people doing, like, trying to, like, bust fake checks in the banks. Y' all gotta watch. This is the funniest. This shit needs to be on tv. This is the funniest shit. They be like, yeah, nah, hold on. We gonna go in the back, count your cash out.

[Baby D]

I'm cool.

[Mall]

I'm gone soon. If you got a fake check and the teller says, yo, just wait here. I'll be right back. Fam, if you don't get up out of here, they be sitting there. Homie was sitting there. He didn't even know the police walked in the bank. And he's sitting there, and they walked up on him, and he saw the cops sitting there. You could just see it in his face like, oh, my God. They like, where you get this check from? He like, yeah, nah, you know, I just. I met some guy on the beach. They're like, what's his name? He's like, I don't know. I was like, this nigga on the check.

[Baby D]

People are fucking.

[Mall]

You know how crazy you got a check and you say, I got it from somebody on the beach, but I don't know his name. I'm sitting there like, yo, what? I don't understand how people get to the point in life where they like, you know what? I'm gonna just try to bust this $2,000 check, even though I might go to jail. And it's like, four felonies. They started reading off the felonies. He looking like, nah, the homies on me. Tony, if it was one. Nah, it's four felonies, $2,000. And then he said he had to give his man half. So now we had $1,000 for four felonies. Dumb as one of the greatest YouTube channels ever.

[Rory]

Have you ever seen. There's a guy that try. He scams the scammers, more or less like the people that are in those call centers that try to scam everybody.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So he hacked their CCTV camera and was explaining what they was wearing in the chair. It's, like, funniest. Like, he'll go with the scam for a while just to get them moving.

[Mall]

And then I know where y' all at. Yeah.

[Rory]

Even just look at the thumbnail of dude when he realized, yeah, I love shit like that.

[Mall]

That's the best shit ever. That type of shit. That's real. That's real tv, for sure. That's real. These are not. This ain't no script. This is real shit. These niggas is really going to prison. That's the type of shit we need to put on tv.

[Baby D]

Yeah. I mean, it's a show on Netflix called who Call? Is it the 911 caller? Some dumb shit like that where basically they show. They'll show three stories of, like, people who called 911. They'll play the 911 calls, and they'll be like, which one of these people was actually the murderer? Like, because people be calling 911 after they committed a crime. Like. Like, yo, now my wife fell off this cliff. Like, I don't know. Her heart rate is this. And, like, you gotta come get her. Like, n. You pushed her. Like, you. Yeah, it's very.

[Mall]

Shit be crazy when you watch shows like that and you realize like. Like, who the killer is before it's like. It's like, yo, your hat. Like, as soon as they start talking, it's like, it can only be you.

[Baby D]

That's how I know I'm getting away with shit. But also, it be people that sound guilty, like, when they getting interrogated. And I'm like, that will also committed the crime. I won't sound guilty. But if think I'm a suspect and I actually ain't do. I'm gonna be in there stuttering. Like, I do that sometimes. Like, when I'm just, like, nervous or, like, some. I'll start, like, stuttering, and it sounds like I'm lying, but I'm not lying. But when I'm lying, I'm crystal clear.

[Rory]

Well, I should. First 48 is a. A good example of why you shouldn't commit crimes. I've never seen anyone stand tall in an interrogation room. In first 48, it takes about two seconds for everybody to start snitching. Yeah, I've never seen anybody hold it. The people that hold it down are the ones that actually didn't know anything. Thing they'll come in like, I really don't know. Other than that. The people that know snitch in about before the first commercial break.

[Mall]

I've seen, I've seen some where they just be like, yo, I need to talk to my lawyer. Like, they just go straight to the lawyer.

[Rory]

Which is what you spoke in the later seasons of First 48. And those people watch First 48 and learn that you could have a lawyer. But Those first like five seasons, the first 48, everybody snitched. No one asked for a lawyer.

[Baby D]

I hate watching people talk to the cops without like, especially if you know you did something and you have no lawyer. Like, if I know I committed a crime and I get pulled into interrogation. Oh, we just wanna have a quick chat. Lawyer. Lawyer.

[Mall]

Yeah. You're supposed to do right away.

[Baby D]

Yeah. Even if I'm innocent. Lawyer.

[Mall]

But you know what? It is a lot of those times, like in, you know, watching enough of those type of shows, sometimes people can't. It's like a weird thing. People wanna tell what happened.

[Baby D]

They do.

[Mall]

Like when they commit, like when they do it, like they can't sleep. Like they've been up for days. Like they scared. Like they know, like they just want to get that shit out. That's why a lot of times the cops are like, yo, listen, it's on your face, bro. Just, just, just, just let it go. Cause you can't. You look crazy. You sitting in here like. And that's when they just start crying and they just like, yo, I gotta let it out. Like that's just a, I think a human nature at some point. Now you got some cold blooded killers that sociopath. Yeah, like that. But it's like the ones that you like a detective when obviously they've been doing this for a while, they just could look at people in their face and know this person wants to let it out. Like they can't hold this in anymore. But for the most of those dudes, just shut the fuck up and say you're a lawyer. If you did something to where it's like, you know, y' all in some street shit. But those ones that's just killing random people on their way home for those are the ones you need to do.

[Rory]

Oh, for sure.

[Mall]

Send them niggas to prison forever, man.

[Rory]

But I mean, you gotta keep in your mind too though. If you could just get past those two days, the cops will give up on the murder. Like no dead ass. You just gotta hold, you just gotta hold it down for 48.

[Mall]

No, it's not what?

[Rory]

That's not 99% of first 48 date ones that end without finding the killer. Say the case is still open. Yeah.

[Baby D]

Too much to do. If I commit a murder in New York City, unless it's sensationalized, like, damn, I done around and killed a white lady or I done killed a kid. Like, when you kill like, a regular, like, person, like, you get away with that shit?

[Mall]

Nah, hell no. In New York. No.

[Baby D]

Yeah, they got too much other shit going on. You know how many people die per day?

[Mall]

You're not getting away with. You not. It's not easy to get away with a murder in New York.

[Rory]

No. Well, the cops. The cops, wives. Easier for them now that the cops are tech people. Now you just go from camera to camera to camera to camera.

[Mall]

You just follow the whole. Yeah, like, you not getting a murder is. You're not getting away with a murder. And there's more, probably more cameras in New York City than probably any other city in the world. Like, you not getting away with murder in a murder in your only other. I think London. London got more like cameras. Like you. Not my people's in London, they were like, bro, if you kill somebody in London on the street, you're going to jail. Like, there's no getting around it. Like, they saw it. They definitely saw what you just did. Like, there's cameras everywhere. Same for New York. That's not happening. You're not getting away with a murder in New York.

[Rory]

I mean, I have a friend that's a detective for NYPD and he says 90% of his day is spent on Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, Twitter. That's where he investigates.

[Mall]

Somebody gonna tell you what happened. They'd be talking about it right in their chat on YouTube or Facebook. Like, yo, you heard what happened?

[Rory]

But, you know, you don't need to leave the office ever to solve them anything. Just cameras and social media.

[Baby D]

I think about, like, like this podcast for, like, we just be talking, running our mouths on this podcast. And half the we say we don't mean. But, like, if I was ever. If I ever got commit. Like, if I ever got accused of a crime and I went like on the stand, you know what they would play? They would just play the clip of me saying, like, if. When I'm lying, I could lie smooth. Like, if I'm like, you would never know that I'm lying. They would play that against me in court. Like, all. Everything we say on this fucking podcast will be used against us in a court of law. If I fuck around and killed that one Nigga Satan, we don't speak of. If I was to kill him, they would play the shit that I've said on this podcast like, as, like, fuel against me.

[Rory]

That's fair. But what this detective is looking at is the kids that are straight up saying, I'm smoking on that Satan pack right now. We murked him on this block on this day.

[Mall]

Give it to you.

[Baby D]

That ain't real detective work.

[Mall]

They give it to you. They put that through Pro Tools. They put the case through Pro Tools and then upload it to itunes. It's like, yo, it's right here, fam. We ain't got to do no investigation with this shit.

[Rory]

I'm still thinking about that case of the people that put in an address on a gps. Imagine sitting there going for a homicide, and you're like, oh, 16 minutes, great. I thought there'd be more traffic. No, let's go the other route. That one doesn't have a toll.

[Baby D]

Dumb as fuck.

[Rory]

Like, typing an address in to go commit a murder is the craziest thing in the world.

[Baby D]

You ain't even put in the McDonald's that's around the corner. Like, you put that nigga's actual address in.

[Mall]

Just leave your phone home, man. Leave your phone. If you going to commit a crime, leave your phone. And that is the car.

[Rory]

Don't use your own car. Steal a car like they used to.

[Baby D]

Or get on the bus. No, don't get on the bus.

[Mall]

Taking the bus to go do a crime is crazy. You looking up the block like, yo, where this at? Bus.

[Rory]

Late driver. Back door bus.

[Mall]

La.

[Rory]

Back door bus.

[Mall]

Laid victim got away. Like, it's like it's all kind of going on. Take a bus. Like, what? That's crazy.

[Rory]

Or imagine taking the train and like, damn, I got on the express, not the local. You gotta go back. And then you just get so frustrated and hot. You're like, I don't even want to kill this person anymore.

[Mall]

Yeah, it's over. Taking the public transportation to go kill somebody.

[Baby D]

I'm sure they've taken. It's been trained to go.

[Rory]

Murk me. Absolutely. 100 buses, trains. I'm sure a city bike has been used before.

[Baby D]

Are there cameras on our New York City trains, though?

[Mall]

On the platform?

[Rory]

Yeah, on the platforms.

[Mall]

But no, I think they had actual train.

[Rory]

Didn't they add it with these new cars?

[Mall]

No, that's just a sitting there.

[Rory]

No, I know you can see the camera.

[Mall]

Like, but the.

[Rory]

The new fleet, they've put a few in. The ones that don't Even have like, the. The door. Like, it's just a train. Yeah. There's this new fleet is gonna happen.

[Baby D]

They should have been. I was so surprised that they didn't been have them. I think they didn't want liability. I don't want to see what the Is going on on exchange. Honestly, that's how I feel. Because there's no way. Why would the trains everywhere in New York City has fucking cameras? Why would the trains not have cameras?

[Mall]

What about air conditioning on the platforms? We as that because summertime on a New York train. A New York City platform.

[Rory]

Yeah, bro. You didn't give us congestion pricing not to give us air conditioning.

[Mall]

Yeah, like, that's like on the train, you know, you'd be happy when you get on the train.

[Baby D]

No. And it'd be too fucking cold on there.

[Mall]

Yeah, but like, on the platform. Oh, my God. Like, it'd be smooth. I'm talking about sizzling. Some summer days on. That is crazy. Like, there's no way that New York City does not have air conditioner inside. Like, the subways. That is. That's. To me, that's. That makes zero sense. Like, how is that not a thing yet?

[Baby D]

It costs too much. Then they. We have the money.

[Mall]

Nancy Pelosi got $200 million.

[Baby D]

That's her money.

[Mall]

If she take 10, just take 10 million from Nancy and put fucking ACS in all of the New York subways.

[Rory]

Like, like, I tried to tell you guys, Maul is not the Republican you think he is. He's a socialist.

[Mall]

I'm just saying.

[Rory]

Communist. Now.

[Baby D]

I think that was a very socialist.

[Rory]

Yeah. That's crazy, man. What don't tell your friends.

[Baby D]

Distribution of wealth.

[Mall]

I mean, Nancy ain't doing. She ain't doing well, Nancy ain't doing shit with that.

[Rory]

Nancy has a nice life.

[Mall]

What the fuck? She ain't gonna miss that 10. Yo, put fucking ACS on the subway.

[Baby D]

That's what the democratic socialist feel.

[Mall]

Jesus Christ. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. See, I told you I'm not. I'm not this Republican y' all think I am.

[Rory]

I mean, we may have a socialist mayor or unless. Unless Curtis wins. And then we'll just have more berets on the train instead of air conditioning.

[Mall]

Yo, Biggs was asking me, like, yo, where you go, like, to sign up for, like, the Guardian Angels, like, who you gotta go?

[Rory]

Like, where is hq?

[Mall]

Yeah, like, if you want to be a Guardian angel, like, where do you go? Like, how. What does that meeting look like? What is it? Like, who do you Talk to like.

[Rory]

Because like, I know where the. They have like the Scientology centers in LA where it's like, I know if I wanted to do this, I could walk in and be like, you don't.

[Mall]

Go talk to Curtis Sleewell when you want to be a Guardian. You're not going to sit down and have a meeting with Curtis. GuardianAngels.org Y' all ain't gonna lie. I think I want to be a guardian angel. What? Why not?

[Rory]

How much you think you have to pay for the. For the fit though? Because I don't think they just give it.

[Mall]

That don't come with it.

[Rory]

You definitely. I'm sure there's. There's like fees and crews.

[Mall]

I just want the merch. Oh.

[Rory]

I mean, the fact that Kith has not done a Guardian Angels collab to me is, Is.

[Mall]

Yeah, like, I just want.

[Rory]

You're just leaving money on the table.

[Mall]

Yeah, like leaving money.

[Rory]

There would be lines around the corner to get that. That Kith Guardian angel beret.

[Mall]

Yo, I'm a.

[Rory]

That would go.

[Mall]

I'm not for Guardian Angels.

[Baby D]

So for people, for our listeners who are not in New York, not from New York City or are very young and don't know what the Guardian Angels are, they're non profit, like unarmed crime prevention group. Group. It's like a gang first. It's like the Peter Pan gang.

[Rory]

It was in. In the 70s and 80s, crime got so bad on the trains and the cops weren't doing. The mayor wasn't doing. So the Guardian Angels, I guess made a militia to protect citizens on the train. And I just don't know what their vetting process was because I don't know if like everyone could fight. Some of the pictures I've seen, I'm not like judging, but I feel like that guy would have lost the fighting.

[Mall]

I never saw a guardian angel on the train when I needed one. When them blood was on that train with me when I was like 16, I ain't see a guardian angel.

[Rory]

Yo, no disrespect, I've never seen them angel before. Have you ever seen them like stop a crime? I'm sure they have, but there's no footage. I've never seen it.

[Baby D]

So they say that new members go through training before allowed on patrol, self defense and restraint techniques, first aid. Just take them to that isolation skills, which is important. And community awareness.

[Mall]

They just take them through a Taekwondo, like basic like training.

[Rory]

They. They do what we did in Detroit with our guy with Dale. That's all they do.

[Mall]

Yeah, that's all they do. And then they give them the. Give them the T shirt and the hat and tell them to go out there and stand on the stuff. Yo, the guardian. If you're in a guardian angel is crazy in 20, 25. Yo, come on, man. What we doing? The guardian angel. I' ma sign up. I just want to go. I just got to go see, like, what's the. Like what's the process like? I just want to see what it is.

[Rory]

Was that locations? Yeah, I'll go with you more.

[Mall]

Yeah, let's go do it. It. Let's go, let's go, let's go.

[Baby D]

So I don't think you guys don't give vigilante, like, I don't know if y' all got it in y' all to be Batman.

[Rory]

Yeah, man, we could go. Where's the Chinatown location? Chinatown ain't but so big. I've been on every block in Chinatown. I've never seen the guardian angel headquarters.

[Mall]

Oh, it's on Kingsbridge in the Bronx. That's my hood. I never even knew. They ain't never handle pamphlets out. They never run down on us at the park and do no recruiting. They ain't set up the table like, yo, they not on their dean up there in the Bronx or Kingsbridge, bro.

[Rory]

The bloods are working way harder.

[Mall]

Yeah, the brims.

[Rory]

Their membership is booming up there.

[Mall]

This is more brims. Guardian angels on Kingsbridge, bro. That. Yo, y' all gotta get out to put y' all table on the sidewalk and get them pamphlets out, bro. They not doing their thing up there.

[Rory]

That's hilarious.

[Mall]

That's the only question is, why do you want to volunteer with us? Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. I might fill that out.

[Rory]

I'm. I'm down.

[Mall]

I might fill that out. Why do you want to. Why do you want to volunteer with us?

[Rory]

Podcast content.

[Mall]

I'm gonna live stream.

[Rory]

Yeah, we're trying to do an extra tier on Patreon.

[Mall]

I'm a live stream. I'm a live stre. Stream my shift as a guardian angel. Yo, I'mma live stream my shift as a guardian angel, man, but get my backpack. Get on the train, man.

[Rory]

All right. That's what we got to change from our guest episode on Thursdays. Thursdays has to be dedicated to just you and I protecting the streets of New York on live shit.

[Mall]

Yeah, that's what we gotta do. Yo, get Curtis on. That's it. We gotta. That's what we do. We have Curtis as a guest.

[Rory]

For sure.

[Mall]

We have Curtis. Come through. And we'll kick it with Curtis and let him know, like, yo, listen, man, you know, we seeing, you know, crime is back up. It's looking like the 80s all over again on these subways. We gotta know, we gotta get, get these, get the angels up. We gotta get more recruits out there and prepare them to kind of, you know, protect the city. Sure, let's get Curtis on, man. Let's kick it with Curtis and then go. Go be guardian angels.

[Rory]

There's one thing that may stop me. Speaking of no air conditioning on the platform. When it comes to their merch. I've only seen jackets like, what's the summer fit?

[Mall]

No, they got T shirts, they got shorts, they got white tees. All right, they got some, some white tees. And yeah, you could wear, I guess, whatever pants you want to wear. But if you want, if you're going to be a guardian, you got to have like pants with pockets. You need pockets.

[Rory]

Oh, for sure.

[Mall]

Pepper spray.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Yeah. Santa. Yeah, Your hand wipes things like that because you're going to shake a lot of hands being a guardian angel.

[Rory]

Are they more of like, like a boots crew? Are they K Swiss? What, what's, what's the footwear?

[Baby D]

None of them look like they could fight, that's what.

[Mall]

No, I don't.

[Rory]

Even the old photos, they would have kids that was like £70 with that beret on. I'm like, he's got his ass whooped on that.

[Baby D]

You can be 16 and up. Let a 16 year old try to stop me from committing a crime.

[Rory]

Boy, if you don't stop.

[Mall]

Well, you only got to be 16 years old to be a guardian or up.

[Rory]

Yeah, I would rather Amara be a Crip at 16 than a guardian angel at 16. How is that legal?

[Mall]

Yeah, I saw it. I saw.

[Rory]

Now they probably do other like community outreach help. They probably do like volunteer homeless shelter stuff. There's no way they throwing a 16 year old kid on the A train in Far Rockaway.

[Baby D]

Well, they also do training and they do community work as well, so. Yeah.

[Mall]

Nah, I'm not cleaning up no park though. I ain't doing that.

[Baby D]

Oh, you too good to clean the park? Why not?

[Mall]

No, I did that when I had to do, you know, and I got locked up a couple times and you gotta kinda do community service. But I'm not doing that as a. My shift as a guardian angel. I'm here to fight crime, not fucking rats.

[Baby D]

Well, they don't think, they don't think that you're ready, you know, you're there Yet.

[Rory]

Oh, I just thought of a great scheme that we could do if we become guardian angels. You know, we stay on. Stay on our mission and get up to like maybe an exec level up in there. Any people that need like a slip that says they did community service for their parole officer, we could sell community service hours. You don't even have to show up. It's like a no show job. We could just sign off on all your. Because we're like, we're execs at GuardianAngel co.

[Mall]

I don't think he's supposed to say it on camera, but it's all good.

[Rory]

No, no, I was just marketing now. Now all of a sudden, nah, let's.

[Mall]

Get Curtis on, man.

[Rory]

That was an ad.

[Mall]

Let's get Curtis on. Let's talk to him and let's see. You know what I'm saying? Like, let's see if. If he'll have us as guardian angels. I'm going right to Kingsbridge. I'm going right to my hood.

[Rory]

I can assure you, if them see.

[Mall]

Me uptown with a guardian angel. Nah, I can't go to.

[Rory]

But you gotta walk on your block and pretend like nothing's wrong. Like, don't even acknowledge that you're wearing the fit and people like, what? What's wrong? Yeah, it's like, don't even acknowledge when you walk in that you have that.

[Mall]

Yo, Curtis, man, we gotta talk to you. Get Curtis on the. On the line, man. Let's talk to him.

[Rory]

I can assure you that would be a very easy get. There's not a microphone in New York City that Curtis. That's not gonna be a hard get for the volume. Now you want to come now?

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

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[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Baby D]

It.

[Rory]

I don't need to ask if we have voicemails today, because I came with a voicemail today.

[Mall]

You've got mail. Oh, man.

[Rory]

And this one being sponsored by Row, is actually kind of appropriate for the context of this entire thing. Do you guys remember Manny from the Zoom Zoom Room? For those that aren't on Patreon, we. We did Zoom Zoom Room, where we'll go on Zoom with some of our listeners that call in just to get more context from their voicemails. So we do remember Manny. She actually explains the whole thing, so we don't need to do a whole deep dive of who Manny is. But a listener reached out to me, and she sent me a video, and I was like, what is this? And she was like, I'm with Manny. I was like, oh, you know him. She was like, I'll explain everything.

[Baby D]

Hey, everyone. Hey, Ma. Hey, Rory. Hey, Damaris, it's me. I go by Milo on Instagram, but my name is Lucretia. Long time listener, always. Yeah, I mean, be like, kind of commenting, y', all. Y' all cool as. So I'm leaving this voicemail first time ever, because I had a little smooth, little link up with one of y' all Zoom Zoom Room little people. Right? Manny, the one that caught in about the relationship issues. Dude went to jail. Yeah. I mean, the marriage was like, yo, you the key out of her. That type. Right? So when he was on the list on the Zoom Zoom Room. Right. I was being nosy. So I'm a therapist. And so that, like, I became a therapist because I like to be nosy. So I get in the comments, I was like, I really want to know the real story. So he sent me his little Instagram link and whatever, and we started talking on Instagram and we were like, I got the whole little story, so, you know, try to keep it professional and everything. I thought he was cute, but, yeah, I mean, I just kind of left it at there because, I mean, you just left a voicemail, you know, kind of crooning about y', all. Yeah, your ex chick. So I ain't even trying to push in like that. So one day he had dropped, like, this thirst trap on. On Instagram, and I was like, oh, damn. Like, you know, I mean, what's up?

[Rory]

What's up?

[Baby D]

He was like, oh, that's that's what it is. So, like, kind of conversation shifted and, you know, started becoming, like, a little.

[Rory]

A little bit more.

[Baby D]

Right. So he was like. I was like, y', all, I'm gonna. Either you gonna come see me, I'm gonna come see you. So he ended up coming down here, like, literally this past weekend. So y' all getting the information, like, literally, like, 48, you know, kind of hours, like, whatever. We linked up. Yeah. I mean, it was a good little cool time. We watched, you know, a whole bunch of ball games together because I'm a big football fan. So we watched, you know, football all weekend, went out and watched the fight and whatever. And, like, dude, real dope. Damaris, you write. And I hope that that rings somehow, you know, kind of within what you were saying to him that one day. Yeah, you right. So I just need to know. Yeah, I mean, because y' all know he was, like, crooning or whatever about his ex chick. Should I, like, kind of, like, keep this going or. Because he, like, crooned on y' all podcast. Like, should I just kind of, like, just keep it? Like, like, you know, let him, like, kind of slide to the left? All right, that's what I need. Hope y' all have a great rest of y' all day. Much love. And, yeah, I mean, be honest.

[Rory]

All right. I love the support that Milo has given us. So I mean this with. With absolute love. You might be the worst therapist I've ever.

[Mall]

Nah, she's the therapist from the Sopranos.

[Rory]

We thought they were gonna. The whole time.

[Mall]

No, they. They.

[Rory]

I just feel like we should ask the therapist, should you be doing this? Don't ask us.

[Mall]

I mean, if they hit it off and, you know, no matter what her. Her profession is occupation, and, you know, they had a good time.

[Rory]

Like, she was therapizing. She went into it to therapize him, and she fell in love with her client.

[Mall]

Yeah, she. So she had sex, and she enjoyed it, had a great time, and now she wants to know if there's something that she should continue, like, pursuing. Should they continue dating and things like that, or should she just leave it as, yo, we had a cool little, you know, weekend, and that was it.

[Baby D]

Okay, so here's my thing. Right?

[Mall]

What's the thing?

[Baby D]

And I, I, I'm. I'm all for her. I love that she's a supporter of the podcast. Shout out. Shout out to her. Thank you for telling me. I favorite. That's my favorite. My favorite foreplay is people telling me that I'm Right. Right. So here's the thing. She's a manipulator, and this is why she's a manipulator.

[Rory]

I felt the same way.

[Baby D]

This is why she's a manipulator. Why are you calling us on this podcast and asking us these questions when you know that that man listens to this podcast?

[Rory]

He's a Patreon subscriber, too. He don't miss an episode.

[Baby D]

You wanted him to hear that. And because you're a therapist, I know that you have some type of brains in your head and you know how people's feelings work. You know how making a man think that you're considering him may make him feel like you already know what you want to do. You didn't. This call wasn't for us. This call was for him. I mean, I'm cool to be a ploy. You know what I'm saying? I'm all cool to be a ploy. Because I'm sure she heard the same things that I heard when he was explaining himself on that Patreon. Because when I was listening to him, I said, oh, he's easy to snatch up. And please, like, I already know you've given out. He gave out his whole entire playbook. I already a podcast. And you heard it and then decided, h, I could use this to my benefit. I want to see if. If what Damaris said was true. Now it is. And now you know that he's easy to manipulate. That is my personal opinion, but no shade to you. I'm listen manipulator myself.

[Mall]

It's sunny. Ain't no shade.

[Rory]

It's sunny. She thought she could manipulate us with that conversation of saying she found him in the Patreon comments and, you know, wanted to talk to him about the whole situation. Your whole goal the whole time is. Is to what is happening right now. That. But that's different when you're licensed for it. Like. Like there's. There's guys, myself included. I've probably done it before. I've been a fake therapist to somebody, and that ended up making them like me more. And I beat. I wouldn't say it was manipulation, but when you're licensed to do it now, I think it's a crime. You can't take your degree and just go start shooting in the Patreon comments and then get them to a place and then be like, yo, fly out here.

[Baby D]

The only thing that I feel like she might have slipped up in, and I don't. Or maybe this is a part of her ploy too. Maybe it's an inception. I don't know. A dream inside of a dream is that. There's no way you thought that I wasn't gonna clock that when you called. That's a risk. Him hearing everything that we're saying right now, if you actually like him, is a risk. So unless you like the risk and you like the thrill and you like being able to tell him no, they were completely wrong. Like, I'm actually really into you. Like, if you needed another level of challenge for the manipulation, for your inner entertainment, maybe that's why you did that. But there's no way she didn't know that we were gonna clock that.

[Mall]

I'm gonna add something to it. Well, he knows that she sent this message.

[Rory]

I was gonna say, my third theory is he was sitting next to her when she sent that voice note.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, yeah, let's keep this going. Yeah, they listen to pod. Yeah, let's keep this. Let's keep this moving.

[Mall]

Let's keep it going. Like, yeah, that's all it was. Like, he knew that she was gonna send that voicemail. Knew exactly what she was gonna say, because obviously. And he'll be sending a voicemail in a couple days.

[Baby D]

Yeah, they, like, attention is what I'm hearing.

[Rory]

And then maybe we'll do a Zoom Zoom room with both of them.

[Mall]

Them.

[Baby D]

I think that's their goal. I hate giving people their goals.

[Mall]

That is a trauma.

[Rory]

They're working for it.

[Mall]

You need to work on it.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's. That's kind of crazy, saying you hate.

[Baby D]

Giving people manipulate me to give you something. I hate giving people what they're trying to manipulate me into giving them.

[Rory]

But if the goal makes sense for. For everybody, then I'm fine with someone thinking they're manipulating me. No, I know the play here, and I agree with the play.

[Baby D]

Okay, well, if that's the case, then we probably shouldn't call the play.

[Rory]

Or we could have them on the Zoom Zoom room to call them out on their play.

[Baby D]

Okay, I'm with it. I like games.

[Rory]

And.

[Mall]

What do you.

[Baby D]

Yeah, when I'm the one winning.

[Mall]

Exactly. I'm about to say the only time you like games is if you win it. You don't like losing, though. You don't like. But I still enjoy. You don't even talk about losing, though.

[Baby D]

I still enjoyed the game.

[Mall]

No, I don't know if you enjoy it.

[Baby D]

I'm playing uno, and I hit your ass with a draw 24. I may lose still, but I really enjoyed the game.

[Rory]

If you lose, having a draw 24 in your hand is crazy.

[Mall]

Like, if I had to draw 24 and you still end up losing. Don't play this game no more. Like, it's just. Like, it's something. You might be on the spectrum a little bit. This ain't for you. You can't count like this. I had to draw 24, and I won. This game ain't for you.

[Rory]

Do we have to put some respect on Manny's name?

[Baby D]

I put respect on listeners that beat the listeners.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And bagging it. Bagging it off the Zoom Zoom Room story, where it was a split decision, like. Like you didn't look the best throughout that entire thing on certain parts, to be able to bag somebody off that and then link up with them a few days later. Like, I have to put some respect on Manny's name. Yeah, but most men can't do that.

[Mall]

Yeah, but she's a therapist. She wanted to fix him.

[Rory]

No, she wanted to be, because she's asking us is. He's. He's clearly not fixed.

[Mall]

Like, you doing this fixes a broken man more than does when a man is broken. Give him some new.

[Rory]

Nah.

[Mall]

What?

[Baby D]

Still broken?

[Mall]

Hell no.

[Baby D]

For our.

[Rory]

No. I've. I've through the pain before, don't get me wrong, but I've done it so many times after that. You know, once she left, I still felt empty. I was still sitting in the bed with wet sheets. Like, why. Why did I do this? This didn't make me feel any better. I still missed the other girl. This did not fill any void whatsoever. And now I have wet sheets.

[Mall]

Oh, man.

[Baby D]

For the listeners who aren't aware of what Zoom Zoom Room is. Zoom Zoom Room Room is a zoom call that we do with specific voicemail. Listen, voicemail callers into our Patreon that we need more information from. So you guys might hear a voicemail on here, and then we might follow up with them on a Zoom call on Patreon. So if you're interested in that, sign up for Patreon. But that is what that is.

[Rory]

We've had some wholesome calls, but Manny wasn't the wholesome one.

[Baby D]

No. And by the way, he owed me pussy residuals, because I'm the one that sat up there and said, I know it's good.

[Mall]

So what is the residuals exactly? What does that look like?

[Rory]

Yeah. How do you. How do you make payment?

[Mall]

How do you make payment on this?

[Baby D]

It's a lot of shit going on.

[Rory]

How does she clear her debt?

[Baby D]

It's a lot of shit going on. In courts, shit is not clear with sex trafficking laws. What's tricking? What's sex trafficking? So we could talk about that off mic.

[Rory]

Got you.

[Mall]

So you saying you either want some pussy from her.

[Baby D]

I did not say that. You're saying that.

[Mall]

Well, if you see a picture of her and she's attractive, you're gonna want some pussy from her.

[Rory]

But that. That can only work with a bisexual. Like, if I put Damaris onto a dude and she likes him, I don't want to be paid back. You ain't getting, like, you don't gotta pay me back. I don't need you. I don't need you. I don't need that.

[Mall]

That's the whole you right there.

[Baby D]

Let's talk about this off mic. Because men usually give money for that. You never. I've definitely never actually. I've done nothing. But I've seen men put a homegirl onto a dude, and the dude paid them for it. Like, oh, you helped me find the love of my life. Here's some money.

[Rory]

What? No, that's. That's actually. I was about to say, what?

[Baby D]

Pimping.

[Mall]

You know, people that have done that.

[Baby D]

It's. That happens. Like, if I find you a bet. Like, if you get a bet and I.

[Mall]

If I introduce Rory to. If I introduce Rory to a girl and they hit it off and I, like, end up falling in love. If Rory ever tries to hand me money, like, yo, that night we went to the bar, you introduced. I would look at him like he was a fucking psycho.

[Baby D]

But that happened.

[Mall]

Like, what do you do like that?

[Rory]

Like, do what normal people do, like, at the wedding reception. Be like, hey, I have to thank Maul for introducing me.

[Mall]

Put my name in the face. Like, don't hand me cash.

[Baby D]

They're out. Are some. Some people who do not run into as many women who are good women as, like, there's some people in some.

[Mall]

Arenas that don't do paying your man for the introduction.

[Baby D]

Sports world. In the sports world.

[Mall]

In the sports world.

[Baby D]

Music industry.

[Mall]

They just paying for.

[Rory]

Yeah, and they paid for. And they ended up liking the. They paid for.

[Mall]

Yeah, like that. Ain't they not paying for the introduction. They like, yo, like, what's your cash app, shorty? I'm trying to. To tonight.

[Rory]

This does sound like a funny, like, romantic comedy where then she finds out it was paid for and was like, no, I didn't know I loved you at that time. It's like one of those.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Baby D]

Isn't there.

[Rory]

There's always like. Like, guys had A bet? Like, who could bag her first? And then she finds out later, she.

[Mall]

Finds out it was a whole office bet, and now she's heartbroken, like, oh, I was the victim of a bet. Yeah, it's okay. It happens.

[Baby D]

If I ever found out I was bet on, I would probably end it off.

[Mall]

No, you would be mad that you didn't get some of the money. That's all. You wouldn't. You wouldn't be upset that you actually had sex with the dude? You just said you want residuals.

[Baby D]

I did not say that.

[Rory]

Okay, that's one of those things where you. I believe you shouldn't have to be completely truthful and transparent with your partner to some degree, because if we knew some of the things that were said about us before we started dating, the person when they were just scoping you out, talking to their friends, you would look at your partner the same way.

[Baby D]

Yeah. No, I don't want to know what you said to your friends in the group chat about me.

[Mall]

Why not?

[Baby D]

Some stuff I just don't want to know.

[Rory]

Some. Some stuff is only understood in the group chat. You don't mean it, but the group chat understands it. And I would not want anyone to.

[Mall]

Like, what would you see if you. If you. If you got a hold of your girl's group chat?

[Rory]

I would not.

[Mall]

What would you see about you that would, like, I guess offend you or like. Like make you feel some type of way?

[Baby D]

I mean, I never slept with a white boy before. Like, if it's pink, I don't know. I don't know if I could do it.

[Rory]

Something like that would be. I wouldn't be. I wouldn't be offended.

[Mall]

Offensive.

[Rory]

I wouldn't be offended.

[Mall]

But that's not offensive. How is that. I'm talking about offensive. Like, you would be, like, what the. Like, I don't know. Like, what would you read? Like, she's your girl.

[Rory]

I don't know. I just feel like when you're dating or getting to know someone in the beginning, there's. There may be overlap with other people. Like, it's. I don't know, it could just get messy. In those gray area days before, like, we are in a relationship, and I feel like anything at that point, everyone should just keep to themselves because it's not going to do any good, and we're all happy here. I wish, like, ignorance is. I don't need to know what you and your friends thought about me at.

[Baby D]

That time I met Rory, but, like, I wish I. Then, like, he introduced me to his Co worker. And I was like, damn, I wish I would have met mall first.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Fire.

[Rory]

But then we had things that are.

[Mall]

That women say, but how is that offensive?

[Rory]

That would offend me that he would.

[Baby D]

Not be able to get over the fact that his.

[Rory]

We did a whole. We did a whole sketch about it.

[Baby D]

Wish that she had dated you instead of him. He would not be able to get over you.

[Rory]

Wouldn't you. You would look at that girl different. You definitely would.

[Mall]

If you went through like, all right, is she my girlfriend?

[Rory]

Like, no, right now she's your girlfriend.

[Baby D]

But before she was your girlfriend, she said like, damn, I met Rory and was like, damn, I picked the wrong friend. You would get rid of her immediately, even though she's madly in love with you, only loves you. But before y' all got into that right there, that's how she felt.

[Mall]

Yeah, we're gonna pack her up.

[Baby D]

But I mean, that's the point where otherwise you probably would have had a perfectly healthy relationship, because it's just some things you just don't need to know.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Nah, something would have showed up later. Those. Those types. Those types.

[Rory]

Yeah, I would have showed up. The real prize.

[Mall]

Well, yeah, whatever, Whatever.

[Rory]

Whatever.

[Mall]

Take it with you. I ain't tight. Take it with you. I got action on other lines.

[Rory]

Be inside about a hypothetical that doesn't exist.

[Mall]

Oh. Oh, man.

[Rory]

All right, Josh, do we have another voicemail? Let's save the world with real sparks.

[Mall]

I just got a quick question. When a man cheats, do you. What do you think the quality of that woman he is cheating with gives him the most? Like, is it love the best eater or just more attention or she's bad.

[Baby D]

That.

[Mall]

What do you think that, like, the quality when a man cheats, what does he find, like, the most in that? In the side piece, y'. All. Let me know. Let me know, baby D. I don't know.

[Rory]

I mean, I would. I would say 99.99 of the time men cheat down.

[Mall]

Cheat down. As far as what they just are gonna.

[Rory]

The girl that's gonna be quiet.

[Baby D]

No, but that's what he's saying. What he's saying is what. What is he looking for, like, in the cheating. Like, why are they.

[Mall]

If a man cheat. Well, I mean, it all. It's all subjective.

[Rory]

See, it's subjected to what's missing on.

[Mall]

What'S going on in your current relationship, what's lacking in your current relationship. And then if you have decide, it's like, okay, well, what is she doing? Like, you know, but for generally, men we're very. You know, it's a. It's a physical thing. It's. It's. She's a. She's nastier in bed than my girlfriend is. Like, I may not. We may not have much in common outside of the. Sex is just great.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

You know what I mean? Like, most. Most of the times I need to.

[Rory]

Take two rows to keep up with her.

[Baby D]

But see, but here's the thing.

[Mall]

Taking two roles in one night is crazy.

[Baby D]

I'm gonna let y' all go because this is a y' all question. But with that, it's like, how do you know that? Like, you would have to cheat to find that out. You didn't go and cheat. Like, you didn't cheat because she was nastier. Because most.

[Mall]

No, but some. Some. Some of them come with Carfax may.

[Rory]

Have heard and intuition. Sometimes you just know.

[Mall]

Yeah. One of the homies may have had, you know, a little rendezvous with her three summers ago and told me, like, yo, the neck crazy. And I've always knew that. And then now, you know, we caught some energy one night at a random event, and it's like, damn, I heard her neck was crazy and it was.

[Baby D]

Worth risking your family for.

[Mall]

I ain't gonna say it's worth the risk, but like just a little friendly fire. Like, just give me some fire head and we just go our separate ways.

[Rory]

Like, yeah, Mike got a little head, but I wasn't really cheating.

[Mall]

It's okay. Women, y' all do. Like your ex still sending you money every month. Like, y' all do like that. Yeah, that's how y' all the camera on me.

[Rory]

Peach and zoom in.

[Mall]

Peach, can you get her pockets? Can you see her pockets while she.

[Rory]

And open your Chase apparently zoom into.

[Mall]

Her pockets and then zoom in on her Zel. Her Zel app on her phone. Like, yeah, that's what y' all do.

[Baby D]

He always do like that. This they show.

[Mall]

That's the. That women do.

[Rory]

Yeah. It could be. Even if you don't know, it could be lacking sex in your relationship. So you just end up someone else and she ends up being the greatest eater. And that's just a plus. But also, sometimes men are not always that complex. Sometimes they just want to another girl. Like.

[Mall]

Yeah, but that's. That's.

[Rory]

You know, I'm not condoning it. I'm just saying that you should. Sometimes people just want to. That's not even making a men thing. Sometimes people just cheat to.

[Mall]

Yeah, that is true. Some people just.

[Rory]

They could be whole. Everything at home is Fine.

[Mall]

Yeah, they just.

[Rory]

Sometimes cheating is a completely internal thing and nothing to do with what's going on in the relationship.

[Baby D]

Cheating is a completely.

[Mall]

Yeah, but if a man is just sleeping around with a bunch of women, like, just cheating, and his relationship at home is great, and she's like, you know, know a great girlfriend.

[Rory]

Internal.

[Mall]

He's probably gay.

[Baby D]

Now, when I said that, right?

[Mall]

I might have high fived you. We. We would. We would agree on that. Damaris. You know, I think all Internet tore.

[Baby D]

Me up when I said it.

[Mall]

Oh.

[Baby D]

Cause I like so much, that means I'm gay. How does that make sense? Hey, hey.

[Mall]

No, but I think the way you. I'm just saying, like, if you just blatantly. If you have a girlfriend, you just running around cheating. Just fam.

[Rory]

Like, you two have to explain this point. I do not understand that point whatsoever. If you like a lot, it means you gay.

[Mall]

No, I'm saying if you have a happy. If you have a relationship, right? You're in a relationship. Healthy loving, you know, relationship. And you just can't keep it in your pants. Like, you just have to have sex.

[Rory]

So are they in the cheating. They're guys and going home to their wife or. They're women.

[Mall]

They're just. They're sleeping with a bunch of different women.

[Rory]

He sounds like the man. He doesn't sound gay.

[Baby D]

Something ain't being satiated, baby. I'm just saying.

[Mall]

It's an itch that ain't being scratched.

[Baby D]

That ain't being scratched.

[Mall]

It's the itch. Some name being fixed. You searching for a fix. You know what I'm saying?

[Rory]

Yo, so why not just go. The dude, they don't.

[Baby D]

Because they don't know. They don't know. They don't understand why the itch is not being.

[Mall]

They don't understand sometimes you don't know you gay.

[Rory]

I like.

[Mall]

You know what I'm saying? So a lot of these dudes, you run around here angry, they don't know they gay. It's like, yo, fam, you.

[Rory]

They just throwing temper tantrums. And they just fam.

[Mall]

You ain't had to talk to me like that, fam. Like that energy, like that homoerotic shit you got going on, like, just go ahead and go lay down with homie. Like, yeah, but you ain't gonna be talking to me crazy. Yeah, these niggas be mad upset. It's like, yo, fit, just go suck that. Like, nobody. It's 20, 25. Nobody cares. I promise you, nobody cares. Like. But you gotta stop acting like this though.

[Rory]

Okay. I enjoy vagina. Yeah.

[Baby D]

Oh.

[Rory]

I don't think that means there would be an internal. Like, I wouldn't even. If a guy came by, I. I wouldn't even get aroused. But I love. So how would that.

[Mall]

I do too.

[Rory]

But I'm just correlate. Like.

[Mall]

I'm just saying if I wasn't.

[Rory]

Because I love this so much, it means that I want the other thing. But I've been. I've, like, I've been around men before.

[Baby D]

You've been in a. You Happy, healthy relations.

[Rory]

Not one single time have I looked at a man and was like, yeah, I do it.

[Baby D]

Every healthy relationship is still fucking four bitches a week. You've done that?

[Rory]

No.

[Baby D]

Okay, so then you speaking from experience you haven't done. Could you ever.

[Mall]

I'm talking about the ones that like. Like, I'm going to the store to get groceries and they gotta go like, the chick across town. Because it's like, just go beat off somewhere or also. Also.

[Rory]

Or suck a dick or.

[Baby D]

There are sex. There are people who have sex addiction as well.

[Rory]

No, that. That exists.

[Mall]

Yeah, for sure.

[Rory]

But I also just don't think everyone that loves and a bunch of women. I think that's more of a sex addiction than it is. Yo, you're just gay. Like, what would cure you would be some dick.

[Baby D]

They'll never know. I'm just saying.

[Mall]

Yo, that's crazy.

[Rory]

But that's. I mean, I was about to say something that Maul would have said this funny. If you go and try it, like, what, you're gay forever? It's like, granted, I know I'm not gay, but I've never tried and failed and been like, all right, I just wanted to double check. But I feel like if you go, like, and explore that now we're in a different realm. I'm not saying, you know the conversation.

[Mall]

That's all I get it.

[Rory]

Certain things you don't need to try to know that you don't like them.

[Mall]

Them. 100.

[Rory]

That's all I'm getting.

[Mall]

100.

[Rory]

So I'm saying if I never agree.

[Mall]

With anything you said. Is that right? Never.

[Rory]

Never tried and failed. I just know that I. I don't need to explore that.

[Mall]

Yeah. I don't. That's not me.

[Rory]

So I'm saying for the guys that are a bunch of women, if you have that thought, just go and do it. Because I feel like the guys that don't, just don't do it.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

If you have that thought, go suck some dick.

[Baby D]

Like, it could Be yours. You keep waiting for, like, women. Like, it's only so many different types of vagina in the world. You keep waiting for something to, like, change or entice you. I've had a conversation with a man before. He was like, my dad just always talk. Talked about vagina like, it was the craziest thing. It's like. I don't know. I guess I just haven't ran into the right one. And you. 200 a year. That. That ain't.

[Mall]

Baby, that's 200 a year. That's craziness.

[Baby D]

Yeah, we. I've had some there.

[Rory]

There's two. Not even. Not even rich, famous people do that.

[Baby D]

Yeah, nasty men.

[Mall]

200 in.

[Rory]

In 20, 25. 200 women in a year is very doable.

[Mall]

That is crazy.

[Baby D]

You said you ran through 50 in the summer.

[Rory]

Yeah, you was on track.

[Mall]

Ain't 200.

[Baby D]

Yeah, but that was three months.

[Rory]

Who's good at math? Three months, 50.

[Mall]

Yeah, but 200 a year.

[Rory]

But if you was on track, if.

[Baby D]

You would have kept going up. Yeah.

[Mall]

But I didn't keep going up.

[Baby D]

People have problems, Mom.

[Mall]

Yeah, that is crazy. 200 a year, like, that's wild.

[Rory]

But it's probably more common.

[Mall]

Who has that time.

[Rory]

A rich, young rapper on tour for six months out the year, and then plus a European tour. How many you think he.

[Mall]

Yeah, 200 is still crazy, though, because you got to think that, you know, if you're doing 30. 30 cities, right? Average tour 20. 20 to 30 cities, maybe. I mean, you're not having the threesome every night. Who's doing that? So you.

[Baby D]

Some men are addicted to threesomes, too, Ma. Some I think you be.

[Mall]

So Some is gay.

[Rory]

Yo, like, wanting to. Two women making you gay is the funniest thing in the world.

[Mall]

No, but just saying, like, yo, I love threesomes.

[Rory]

You can be addicted to sex. That doesn't make you gay. It just means you have a gay sex.

[Baby D]

All right?

[Mall]

You're addicted to gay sex if you gotta have a threesome every night.

[Rory]

Night, you're addicted to sex.

[Mall]

Somebody got to talk to homie, bro, is all I'm saying. Go have an intervention.

[Rory]

Yeah, take a nap.

[Mall]

A threesome every night. Come on, fam.

[Rory]

But then again, let's call Neo.

[Mall]

Can we call Neo? He got four girlfriends. He probably got the answers. Neo don't have a threesome every night.

[Baby D]

No, they definitely. Probably sleeping with each other more than him.

[Mall]

Yeah, Neo, he writing hits. He recording. I just got off stage. He not three girls a night, Right?

[Rory]

I'm not Saying this about Neo specifically, but a man that would have four girlfriends at that age, though, to me, I'd be on mall's side of thinking at that point. No way. A man at. How old's Neil? Probably like 45.

[Mall]

I don't know, probably somewhere around at 42. 43.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory]

No 42 year old man wants four women in his house at all time. 45?

[Baby D]

No.

[Mall]

Why not 40? Why not?

[Rory]

A 22 year old would get sick of that after three days.

[Mall]

Because it's like having. It's like having, you know, but your home girl's over. But we just.

[Baby D]

Yeah, technically they're in a polyamorous relationship, so they're all in a relationship with each other. So he's not always involved.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, no, I get that part. That's fine.

[Mall]

Live with you is fire.

[Rory]

It's the only child in me that is thinking that being around four people like every day.

[Mall]

But having a threesome every night is crazy. Every night.

[Rory]

I'm cool. As much as I enjoy them, I. My advice to everyone is it's not about you. Like, you have to now you have to police the women.

[Mall]

It.

[Rory]

It takes work.

[Mall]

You can't do that and just be writing hits on row. You can, but if you take a row, he might. It might get you to the finish. It might get you to the finish line.

[Rory]

It might get you to the finger. But if I did go to Neo's house and open the mirror in the medicine cabinet. Ro, I'm sure there's a lot of row in there to keep up with.

[Mall]

Actually, his new name is Nero. Like, if.

[Baby D]

Order, please, please. Hey.

[Mall]

Hey, Neo. Hey, Neo. Come sit down in the studio, man. We gotta talk, man. We gotta. We gotta have a conversation. That's my thing.

[Rory]

We could probably get you a bag too. The whole episode. Sponsored by Ro.

[Mall]

Oh, man, that's hilarious.

[Rory]

Oh, my God.

[Mall]

All right, well, we've had fun talking to you guys. We'll see you guys in a couple days. Baby D, you good? Anything else you need to get off?

[Baby D]

No.

[Mall]

Cool. Rory good?

[Rory]

I'm wonderful.

[Mall]

All right then. Well, if y' all good, I'm great. We'll talk to y' all soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that. He's just Ginger. Peace.

[Baby D]

No worrying now.

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[Rory]

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[Baby D]

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