Episode 408 | Bodega Baddies

Summary

New Rory & MAL – Episode 408 | "Bodega Baddies"

Release Date: September 23, 2025
Podcast By: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

This episode kicks off with the crew in upbeat spirits, fresh off a weekend of TikTok dances and Monday morning studio vibes. The main focus is a lively, in-depth review of Cardi B’s highly anticipated new album, including its rollout, standout tracks, songwriting credits, and “bodega baddie” energy. The discussion then pivots into a detailed behind-the-scenes look at Jay Electronica’s surprise album drop marathon, the tension around a Diddy feature, and the unique creative process behind these projects.

The back half explores the Kanye West documentary (“bootleg” edition), its depiction of post-meltdown/Calabasas-era Ye, and nuanced takes on whether supporting the documentary is problematic. The show rounds out with discussions on TikTok “rapture” rumors, torturous movie theater experiences, and a compassionate take on breakup closure, spurred by a listener’s heartbroken voicemail.

Throughout, Rory, Mal, Damaris, and Marlon serve up unfiltered humor, group-chat-level inside jokes, and healthy doses of pop culture analysis—with timestamps to guide you through the episode’s best moments.

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MAIN DISCUSSION POINTS & TIMESTAMPS

1. Monday Morning Vibes & TikTok Banter

[03:03 – 04:00]

• The crew's positive mood and Damaris’ TikTok resurgence.
• Lighthearted teasing: “You can’t tick without the tock.”
• Marlon jokes about Damaris falling off TikTok and returning; “She makes it tick.”

2. Cardi B’s Album: "A Flawless Rollout" or Rushed Release?

[04:10 – 18:28]

Rollout & Initial Impressions

• Damaris admits she was skeptical about the rushed rollout, then praises the execution:

  “I thought the rollout was incredible for the time that they had… Atlantic, Cardi, incredible rollout.” (05:00)

Debate Over Track Selection

• Marlon: Some songs (“WAP,” “Up”) didn’t need to be on the album, even if they’re big hits.
• Rory: “She's already addressed that… they need somewhere to live.” (05:26)

Writing Credits and PartyNextDoor’s Role

• Marlon asserts PartyNextDoor’s songwriting influence—“I can hear Pardi's cadence.” (08:54)
• Damaris: “When Cardi says shit like ‘Balenciagas, the ones that look like socks,’ that’s definitely something Cardi said in the studio.” (09:21)

Memorable Diss Moments

• Crew highlights Cardi’s ruthlessly funny lines aimed at Bia and JT:

  “You how you 32 with acne on your face, you dirty ass bitch. Go change your pillowcase… That’s girl shit. Cardi said that.” — Rory (09:41)

Standout Tracks and Critiques

• Favorite songs: “Principal” (the Janet Jackson sample; 11:24), “Bodega Baddie” (16:11), “Safe” feat. Kehlani.
• Some debate over filler tracks and records better suited for Cardi’s diverse fanbase.
• Damaris: “I view this as what’s going to make women have fun at parties. That’s how I view Cardi B music.” (16:37)

Who Will “Live With” the Album?

• Discussion on replay value for the group personally, versus party settings.
• Damaris admits: She’ll play it around women—“I'll put the whole album on if I'm in a car with women.” (18:46)

Summary & Verdict

• The crew agrees Cardi delivered a solid project after a long wait, with personal growth and accountability evident in her lyrics (e.g., “Man of Your Word”).
• “She could have wrote this entire thing... But you would think that because what Party did with the Meg the Stallion diss... that's his bag.” — Damaris (14:29)

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3. Jay Electronica’s Surprise Album Flood

[23:00 – 39:46]

On the Creative Process & Rollout

• Damaris and Marlon dive into Jay Electronica’s sudden release of multiple projects, including previously withheld work and new material recorded in real-time:

  “All of this was done in the last three days. Literally all of it.” — Damaris (24:45)

• Marlon praises the unorthodox, “blog era” spirit of the drop:

  “It’s against the grain… It’s exciting to see artists do things like this.” (31:58 & 33:36)

Diddy Intro Controversy

• Damaris explains her discomfort with Diddy featured on the album, citing her past on-air support for Cassie and her own ethical position:

  “Jay knows my stance… My stance was made, it’s never gonna be my call on that type of thing.” (29:28, 30:25)

Analyzing Jay Electronica’s Style, Features, and Lyrical Easter Eggs

• Marlon: “He’s always going to be one of the greatest MCs… But the music is actually really great.” (26:04)
• Quentin Miller’s feature praised as "unexpected but dope."
• The group encourages listeners to research the track titles—deep references and historical “Easter eggs.” (38:25)

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4. Consuming Music & Technology’s Impact

[34:23 – 36:11]

• Crew laments how streaming and smartphones fragment the music listening experience compared to the CD/vinyl/tape era.
• “It’s very hard to consume music through your phone.” — Marlon (34:41)

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5. The Kanye West Documentary: Raw, Chaotic, Genuine

[48:45 – 62:53]

• Damaris watched a “bootleg” version, noting its raw, uncomfortable, and “chaotic” portrayal of Kanye post-meltdown.
• “It's Kanye West in a very… Paul’s raw form. I really enjoyed the doc.” — Damaris (51:19)
• Discussion on Ye's self-destructive behavior, impact on those around him, and authenticity.
• Marlon: “If he didn’t want this to come out… I don’t know how I feel about paying to see it.” (59:05)

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6. TikTok, Rapture Rumors, and Life Lessons

[62:43 – 67:51]

• Crew riffs hilariously on viral TikTok rumors about the rapture, with practical questions about why people would sell their cars before the end of the world.
• Light-hearted tangent on loan sharks, legal vs. illegal gambling, and the logistics of running from the bank vs. a loan shark.

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7. Torture, Movie Theater Mishaps, and Dark Humor

[69:23 – 81:48]

• Discussion of torture fears: nose punches, fingernails pulled, “Mexican manicure,” creative torture in films like “Law Abiding Citizen.”
• Marlon’s harrowing experience with moving and spraying movie theater seats:

  “Don’t spray me with no water. No movie theater!” (80:23)

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8. Listener Voicemail Segment: The Closure Conversation

[89:29 – 113:04]

Voicemail 1:

• Caller seeks advice on coping with an unexpected breakup (delivered via physical letter!) and asks if he should seek closure.

Panel’s Perspectives & Advice

• The crew agrees: A breakup letter is definitive.

  “A letter? Nah, dog, it’s over.” — Marlon (91:22) “Closure comes from within, not from the other person. She already set the tone.” — Damaris (106:26)

• Rory jokingly prescribes “locking in” to self-improvement, Marlon and Damaris tease about burning/keeping the letter, and the group muses on whether a closure conversation ever works (usually not).

• Hilarious rapid-fire advice: show up unbothered, get a fresh haircut, “return to sender” stamp, or just let it go.

Voicemail 2:

• Same caller wonders specifically how to handle the closure conversation.

Panel doubles down:

• “Go into the conversation with your points ready, but assume it’s over. Don’t go in just to mope.”
• Ultimate wisdom: Closure is for you, not her (and rarely does any good if she’s done).

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NOTABLE QUOTES & MOMENTS

• Cardi’s Diss Genius

  “You 32 with acne on your face, you dirty ass bitch. Go change your pillowcase…” — Rory, 09:41

• Marlon on Jay Electronica’s Drop

  “It’s against the norm… It’s exciting to see artists do things like this, to go against the grain…” — [31:58]

• Rory on Closure Letters

  “If you’re reading this, it’s too late… That’s the stamp in a relationship.” — [91:37]

• Damaris on Emotional Recovery

  “Closure comes from within, not from the other person… She already set the tone.” — [106:26]

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HIGHLIGHTED SEGMENTS WITH TIMESTAMPS

• Cardi B Album Review and “Bodega Baddie” Track: [04:10 – 18:28]
• Jay Electronica’s Album Flood: [23:00 – 39:46]
• Diddy Controversy: [29:28 – 32:42]
• Kanye Doc Recap/Reactions: [48:45 – 62:53]
• Listener Voicemail (“Breakup/Letter/Closure”): [89:29 – 113:04]

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FINAL REFLECTIONS

This episode balances deep-dive music critiques with sharp humor, nostalgic tangents, and real relationship talk. The hosts’ group-chat energy and willingness to debate, especially about Cardi’s rollout (and writing) and the ethics behind the Jay Electronica project, makes for lively listening. The blend of industry insight, honest opinions, and self-deprecating jokes will leave you both entertained and in-the-know, even if you sit this round of Bodega Baddie anthems out.

Transcript

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[Damaris]

The volume.

[Marlon]

No worry.

[Damaris]

And now, welcome back. Top of the Top. In a great, great mood. We are recording this on a Monday morning, September 22nd. How's everyone doing?

[Marlon]

Great.

[Damaris]

How's everyone's smiling faces? Everyone looks radiant.

[Rory]

Oh, thank you so much. Thank you.

[Damaris]

Damaris was doing TikTok dances over the weekend. Know she was coming in here in a great, great move.

[Rory]

I am.

[Marlon]

Are you back on Tik Tok?

[Damaris]

I mean, did she ever leave?

[Marlon]

No, she left.

[Damaris]

You can't. Can't tick without the talk.

[Marlon]

I mean, she left.

[Damaris]

She makes it tick.

[Marlon]

She left for a while. She left for a couple months. She wasn't up there dancing to no songs.

[Damaris]

You was off the talk. I miss. I'm not on Tik Tok like that. So she.

[Marlon]

No, she got off Tik Tok. She wasn't dancing to no songs for a while.

[Damaris]

Somebody. Are you cool? Wait, somebody got you on Tik?

[Marlon]

She got off the Tik Tok.

[Rory]

Ignore.

[Marlon]

Ignore.

[Rory]

Why?

[Marlon]

Because I'm just happy to see you. That's all.

[Rory]

Good. I didn't think you would have be happy to see me this week.

[Damaris]

Why?

[Marlon]

Why wouldn't I be happy to see you?

[Rory]

I don't know.

[Marlon]

I'm always happy to see you.

[Rory]

I like when I gotta make a eat his words.

[Marlon]

What words would I be?

[Damaris]

Oh, I'm at the edge of my seat. Yeah, I'm starving.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Marlon]

All right, let's get right to it. What words do I got to eat? I got it, but I need a napkin. What's up? Yeah.

[Rory]

Was hating on the Bronx baddy, the bodeg, La bodega baddie was hating who?

[Marlon]

Me? When I was hating last. Last week, I said, I got a feeling the album is gonna be dope. Did I not say that?

[Rory]

I don't. I don't remember them words, but I. Okay, maybe I'm.

[Marlon]

That's. That's the problem. No, no, that's the problem. You never remember. You never remember that part, but you remember when somebody talking shit. Now remember me saying that I. I said, yo, I got a feeling that Cardi's album's gonna be dope.

[Damaris]

Well, I will start by eating some of my words. I was worried that the rollout felt a little rushed. Even by Cardi's words, the artwork outside, it was just like, all right, this feels a little weird, but I do. What a flawless rollout that they did. I thought the rollout was incredible for the time that they had.

[Marlon]

Oh, yeah. The rollout was.

[Damaris]

They smoked it. I mean, so I eat my words. And saying this feels rushed. I don't really know. Like, is she on the same page as the label? They smoked this entire rollout. So I will start by saying I eat my words. This was Atlantic, Cardi. This was an incredible rollout. You guys did a great, great job.

[Marlon]

Can I shit on what you're saying, though?

[Damaris]

Absolutely.

[Marlon]

It's songs in there that don't up and y don't need to be on this album. Let's just be real. Like, the album is good. The album is dope without those records.

[Rory]

She's already addressed that. Those are two of her biggest songs, and they need somewhere to live and.

[Marlon]

No, no, no, no, no. We know. Okay. We know what that's about. I'm just saying. And listening to the music. I don't care about numbers and the game. I don't care about that part of it. Just listening to the music. I feel like it was enough good songs on this project to where those two didn't even need to be there.

[Damaris]

Okay, I know you don't care about the numbers, but it is a stat to go platinum within the first hour, which I need to know.

[Rory]

It's. I don't even think.

[Damaris]

Don't do what Jay Z did.

[Marlon]

That's like averaging the most triple doubles on Halloween. Who cares about that? Who cares about these? Is it important game on Halloween nobody cares about. Is the music good? Yes. This Cardi album is good. I agree.

[Rory]

Oh, so you know. Thank you. I do want to address that, because at 12:05, the group chat was going off, and N was being funny in a group chat. I just left. I hid my notifications, and I've been lying.

[Damaris]

I don't like you doing that. Cause people are actually gonna believe you.

[Marlon]

Who was being funny?

[Rory]

All right.

[Damaris]

I didn't say a word in that group chat.

[Rory]

Cut it out. Cut it out. Cut it out. Nah, we cut it out.

[Marlon]

Oh, no, don't get it twisted. I started listening when it came out. And then when I heard Cardi say, A, B, C, D, E, F, G, these bitches can't fuck with me, I turned it off. I didn't go back to the album until Sunday after I heard abcdefg These bitches can't fuck with me. I was like, all right.

[Damaris]

You know what I mean? Well, that was an ode to Wayne.

[Marlon]

I was like, I'm cool. I'm gonna go back to elect for a second. Let me get, you know, my. My bars. Once I got my bars, I was like, Sunday cleaning. I was like, all right, let me. Let me hear what Cardi did. She got some joints in there. There's some joints on that album. I ain't gonna lie. Cardi got some joints in there. We didn't have to wait seven years. Like, Cardi didn't have to make me wait seven years for this. But the music is. The music is dope. I can hear Parties Pin.

[Rory]

Yo, he can't. You gotta throw some. Hey, gotta sprinkle some hate on there. Like black people do.

[Marlon]

Party. No, it's not. It's not hate. I could party ate. Be up. Let's just be real right there.

[Rory]

I don't think. I don't think. I don't think Party wrote that. I don't think Party wrote that. I can hear. Wrote some songs, but I don't think Party wrote that.

[Marlon]

We not doing that. I guarantee you Party wrote bars. I can hear the flow. I can hear it, like, I can almost hear him, his sample track. I can almost hear him, like, laying it down. And then her going in, laying.

[Rory]

Cardi put out a video. She's since deleted it, but put out a video of her. I don't know whether it was that.

[Marlon]

What is it? Pretty and Petty Beer. Don't even be a. Just stay where you at.

[Rory]

So listen, yo, so I was in bed now, mind you, I came out at 12. I went to San Gennaro with Alex. I was drunk toe up. So I woke up around, like, 12:30 and was like, oh, shit, the album out. Put a headphone in. Hungover in my bed, laying down. And I'm just, like, bumping. I'm listening. Whatever. I'm listening. Marking off with songs I like. And then I just hear, like, name five B of songs. I said, oh, shit. I, like, sat up in bed and was like, not a hidden B of this. Like, we ain't roll that. We didn't tell nobody that was coming. She just started catching strays.

[Marlon]

Okay? Like I said, Party is credited for writing on Pretty and Petty. I can hear it and it's okay. I don't give up. I'm not even here for that. The music is good. But Party got somebody. He got at being kind of crazy, though. He talking about being kind of Crazy. You can hear it. I can hear the flow, the cadence. I know Pardi's cadence. I can hear it like, I know that's not Cardi, that's Party.

[Rory]

I'm sure that Cardi.

[Marlon]

I'm not saying she didn't write on it. I'm not saying she didn't write on it.

[Rory]

I'm like, let's clarify.

[Marlon]

I'm just saying certain bars. I can hear Partisan's flow. Like, I could. You can. That is when, you know, listen to certain pins. You know what it.

[Rory]

I hear his flow on the. On the chorus. That. That chorus does give Party. I can't even lie.

[Damaris]

I'm halfway through the album. Just quickly. He's credited on every single song. And I'm halfway through.

[Marlon]

I could hear the pen and it's fun.

[Damaris]

It's fine. I don't want anyone to think the music is.

[Marlon]

I don't give a The music. Like, I don't care about the pen. The delivery was dope. The music is good. It's a good album. That's it. It ain't nothing. I think platinum in the first day week. I don't give a fuck about that. That's industry shit. I don't care about that.

[Damaris]

Again, I think, yeah, Party would be good at structuring the song. But we've discussed before, like, when Cardi says shit like I like Balenciaga's, the ones that look like socks. That's definitely something Cardi said in the studio. And Party just found a way to put it into a cadence. I'm sure anything she said about Bia, that was straight from Cardi's brain and how she felt about Bia.

[Rory]

First of all, that shit had me crying, laughing like this. I love a diss. That's like a ro. Like. And I don't have anything against Bia, but I love a. That's a roasting session. Like you how you 32 with acne on your face, you dirty ass bitch. Going change your pillowcase. That's Party didn't write that. That's girl shit. Cardi said that change your pillowcase when she said diarrhea. Be a breath so stink you could smell it for your sear. How was fun? That's so.

[Marlon]

I feel like that is funny.

[Rory]

It's funny.

[Marlon]

Now. That's Party. And that's why Bia got smoke. Party again.

[Damaris]

I think that's Cardi saying that shit in the studio.

[Marlon]

Cardi said her breath stink. Party said, diarrhea be. That's Partisan. It's okay. We not tripping about none of that.

[Damaris]

I'm not. You know, we don't know that to be a fact.

[Marlon]

Ah, y'.

[Rory]

All.

[Marlon]

We just don't. Right, man, we really don't know.

[Rory]

I really.

[Damaris]

He's probably on every song, so I'm not about to take anything away from Party Cool, but I just think that's how it goes with. With Cardi.

[Marlon]

Good album.

[Damaris]

Because she's hilarious. Not. Let's not act like outside of love and hip hop her on whatever Instagram or what, vine, whatever the Was going on at that time, it was her being hilarious. No, on social media, she's a Bronx. You don't think that you gotta be.

[Marlon]

Able to stand up.

[Damaris]

You don't think Cardi can come up with diarrhea beer? Because I definitely think she can. Matter of fact, I can see Cardi doing that before Party doing that.

[Rory]

She said, you a big lap dog. Be a. Be a Labrador. Shit was so funny, bro. I laughed. I was in bed in tears, like, randomly. And then the smoke for jt, the smoke for JT where she said, my nigga might cheat, but I don't fuck him in the ass with dildos. My nigga might cheat on me, but.

[Marlon]

You didn't need to know. But at least I don't Party wrote that. Party didn't write that. I hope. I hope that's not partisan. I hope he wouldn't have that information. Party wouldn't have that information on his.

[Damaris]

It's a non fictional.

[Rory]

I was like, yo, what the. But long story short, I really, really enjoy this album. Like, I enjoy it. That Janet Jackson project Principle sample.

[Marlon]

That should have been a single.

[Rory]

I should not have.

[Marlon]

You could have kept that imaginary Player joint. That should have principal. Should have been. That's the single.

[Damaris]

I'm sure that's going to be the focus in the shooter video.

[Rory]

That was interesting.

[Marlon]

We didn't need ho. The whole thing. We didn't need that. I didn't need Imagination record.

[Damaris]

It was a mixture I like and.

[Rory]

I didn't think I would. I like the Imaginary Players. I like it way more in the flow of the album and that really. I like. I like it in the album.

[Marlon]

No, I still don't like it.

[Rory]

That's fine. But.

[Marlon]

But I do like the album, though.

[Rory]

I haven't turned that off. Like, when I heard it.

[Marlon]

What's the. What's the album? What's the song where she. Well, shit, probably the whole album. But what's the song? Was she getting at A Man of youf Word?

[Rory]

Oh, she went crazy.

[Marlon]

Cardi Killed. He killed Offset on that, too. Like, why Cardi tell. Why Cardi tell Party all that about Offset.

[Rory]

Stop.

[Marlon]

Like, you know, they had like a sit down. They probably had breakfast, lunch together and was like, yo, so what's going on? And party. He just taking. He. The stenographer. He taking all of that, and then he going back to the lab and he went and laid some of those bars down.

[Rory]

What I like about man of youf Word is that Cardi took accountability for the part that she may have played.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I thought that was nice.

[Rory]

The disillusion, the dissolution of her marriage. Like, maybe I wasn't the person you needed to be. Maybe I was too focused on my music. I was too focused on this. I'm sorry. I want the best for you. Like, I think that that was very mature of her. Like, you can see her growth in the way that she thinks about things.

[Damaris]

I love that at 23, I would love my work more than I did she. I get it. I like the accountability on it. Now, if you're Offset, are you mad at party?

[Marlon]

Yeah, we got. He gotta see me.

[Damaris]

Nah, he's at work.

[Marlon]

He gotta see me.

[Damaris]

That's not personal. That's my.

[Marlon]

He gotta see.

[Damaris]

I see you do this.

[Marlon]

Don't write, don't write, don't see. That would have been the only cause. If I'm offset, I'm going to the credits on that record just to see if he's credited for writing on it. He's credited for writing on that. So now he gotta tell me which bars he wrote. Either way, I got an issue. If I'm offset, I gotta issue a party. That's how the game go. You in the car when somebody's shooting at me. When I see you in Target going to get deodorant, you think it's not lit?

[Damaris]

Yeah, but I was hired to be in that car.

[Marlon]

Nah, I don't give a. It's lit. If I catch you outside of that car that was in when they shot at me, you got to be expecting. You went along for the ride.

[Damaris]

What if it's not a car? What if you were the bus driver?

[Rory]

I'm not seeing.

[Damaris]

Like, what. What if you're just. They came on your car and you just driving.

[Rory]

I'm not seeing him being credited on.

[Marlon]

You don't know his real name.

[Rory]

That's why I do know his real name. He's not credited on.

[Marlon]

Here on. On. On a man of your word. Okay. He's not.

[Rory]

No.

[Marlon]

Okay.

[Rory]

Just went to the Apple music credits.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Marlon]

Card yeah.

[Damaris]

So that whole joint. I do think, as someone that has obviously talked about her having ghostwriters, I do think. Well, not ghost writers. Credited writers.

[Marlon]

I do think credited writers.

[Damaris]

Not. Not ghost writers. Cardi does. Like. Like, I've talked to people that worked with her. She does write. Like.

[Marlon]

No, I know she does. She absolutely does.

[Damaris]

I don't want to do that. And this has nothing to do with the past of this podcast and her or cleaning anything up. I. She writes. So we need to give her that credit as well in that regard. She could have wrote this entire thing for the man of my word. But you would think that because what party did with the Meg the Stallion.

[Rory]

Oh, please.

[Damaris]

That's his bag. Like, he went nuts on that. That. That would be the person I would call to be like, yo, you need to help me write this diss record to my significant other.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I call Bryson.

[Damaris]

Bryson would be good, too.

[Rory]

I still call Bryson. But yeah. Long. Long story short, the album is good. The. If I was to y' all are. People say I'm biased, so I'll. I'll give a critique just so that people know I am not biased. I genuinely like the album. It could have been shorter for me, and if it was going to be.

[Marlon]

Yeah, wopping up shouldn't have been on it.

[Rory]

It's not even no school.

[Damaris]

You mean it is. You didn't.

[Marlon]

They're the last two on the album for a reason.

[Damaris]

You didn't need imaginary players. Album release, Live edition.

[Marlon]

No, I didn't.

[Rory]

Not even. Not like, for example. So. And I know that it's not. I know that it's a me issue, because the songs that I don't like, I've seen online people ranting and raving about them. I would have just rather had it replaced with the two singles or the two little teasers that she put out before the album came out. Like. Like the. Like what? Freestyle. But I know some of those samples might not have been able to get cleared, so that might not. That might be why they're not on there. But there's a couple that I just don't need. But she has a wide array of fans that has to satisfy. I don't need the Lizzo record. I don't need the. The What's Spanish Shorty? Selena Gomez record. I don't need those. But again, she has a fan base that those records are for you.

[Marlon]

Any Bodega baddie.

[Rory]

I love Bodega Baddie.

[Marlon]

How you love Bodega baddie but not pick it up.

[Rory]

I love Bodega baddie. You're bugging.

[Marlon]

I'm bugging. I'm just saying, how do you love bodega baddie but not pick it up?

[Rory]

Oh, my God, that going to go crazy uptown. I'm going knock all the hookah cos over with my ass. I'm gonna go crazy.

[Marlon]

Yeah, I just didn't.

[Damaris]

I mean, that might be one of my. That might be my favorite on the bodega.

[Marlon]

That's the favorite song on the whole album.

[Damaris]

I view this as what's going to make women have fun at parties. That's how I view cardi b music. That's gonna go nuts. That's how I view this. With that type of ear. I also kind of want, like, Tyler's rap album.

[Rory]

Yeah, Tyler was getting her off.

[Damaris]

She's getting a little bars off on that.

[Rory]

Tyler got her bars off.

[Damaris]

I was not expecting that. I was. I was hoping it wasn't going to be just the typical Afrobeats song so.

[Marlon]

You could live with this album, is what you're saying.

[Damaris]

What do you mean, live?

[Marlon]

Like, are you gonna continue to play it and listen to it?

[Damaris]

I don't know. Yeah. I don't know.

[Rory]

It's okay to say no. You don't listen to female rap.

[Damaris]

You don't.

[Rory]

That's not what you listen to on your dating. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's okay to say no.

[Damaris]

I'm going.

[Marlon]

I'm so scared.

[Damaris]

Scared of what?

[Marlon]

Cardi bel khalise. That's who you scared of.

[Damaris]

You have seen my. My conversations. No, direct. Direct. No, not scared at all.

[Marlon]

It's this scared and that.

[Damaris]

See, and when he said, that's why I don't like you guys misrepresenting things, because now people are going to think that. And if you go through every message I've ever had, from voice note to message. No, I've never done.

[Marlon]

I don't want to go. I don't want to go through that.

[Rory]

Well, yo, I'm cracking up.

[Damaris]

I think he was there for one of them.

[Rory]

I think Rory does like the album, but he's not going to live with it. That's not. Y' all don't listen to female rap on a daily basis.

[Marlon]

Yeah, I like that album.

[Damaris]

I'm not.

[Marlon]

I'm not gonna live with it, though. Like, I'm not gonna play. But it's. I was. I. And then she did a good job. She definitely, like, did a good job with the album. I don't think we had to wait seven years for It. But then a lot has happened, and she addressed a lot.

[Rory]

I was gonna say, this is not the album that she made seven years ago.

[Damaris]

There may be no feels.

[Marlon]

She definitely changed a bunch of joints on here, for sure. But again, you know, timing is everything, and she went through some things, and she made. It made for, you know, good content. It made for good. Good lyrics and things like that. So she did what she had to do. I'm not mad at it. Good project. She didn't. She didn't disappoint me. I won't say. I can't speak for anybody else, but she didn't disappoint me with this.

[Damaris]

What do you mean by. By live? It doesn't necessarily have to be a party thing. I'm just. No, I'm just curious what that. What that means.

[Marlon]

You're not playing bodega baddie in the crib in the car by myself. Yeah.

[Damaris]

No, I'm not.

[Marlon]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Not. No way. But, like, I'm driving up to a. I'm going upstate to a wedding this weekend with people. There's going to be women in the. Like, I'll. I'll definitely put this on.

[Marlon]

Like, bodega baddie.

[Damaris]

I'll put the whole album on. If I'm in a car with women. Of course I would. Me just, like, chilling, like, now, you know, on my way to this office in the Holland Tunnel. No, I'm not. I'm probably not gonna throw this off.

[Marlon]

Setting the vibes with the women. No.

[Damaris]

So I'm not known for that. I'm known for ruining this.

[Rory]

Yeah. Literally. Literally. If I had to get.

[Damaris]

For people.

[Marlon]

Because we need that principle. Yo, we need that. We need that video, though.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Marlon]

Like, what's up? Like, why you give us Imaginary? That's the single.

[Rory]

But. But what they did.

[Marlon]

Why they. Why they gave us Imaginary. That's the single.

[Rory]

Well, say. Well, the. The single that led the rollout. Well, led. The album release was Safe by Kani, which I do think should have been a single, right?

[Damaris]

Yeah, it's a great.

[Rory]

It's one of the standouts for the album. The video. They were very cute in the videos. On her acting bag, she got shot and killed. Like, it's a very interesting. And it's a good video. So I would say that the standouts for the album for people who are not.

[Marlon]

What y' all think the video smell like, though?

[Damaris]

Lavender.

[Marlon]

It's a lot of silk, right? Silk. Lavender. Got to be lavender when you see silk.

[Damaris]

Absolutely.

[Marlon]

Right? Yes. I know that set smell great, but.

[Damaris]

I Could also see, you know, with the post promotion being so important now that they may be trying to book Janet for the video. I'm not saying that could happen, but I could see, like, all right, let's go with the Kehlani one. We can shoot the video. It'll go out the week of. That buys us some time to try to lock down Janet to make this the following single.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Because either way, that joint is going to be a Focus track for the next few weeks.

[Rory]

I would hope so.

[Damaris]

Like, that record is fire. If you could get Janet, like, even Janet as a cameo.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Marlon]

That says no, you need more than the cameo that's gonna cost.

[Damaris]

But if all you could get is a cameo.

[Marlon]

Cause too much to get Ms. Jackson to move around for a cameo. Might as well get a full. You might as well get.

[Damaris]

You might as well get rehearsed like that. That's a lot to get somebody.

[Marlon]

Janet gotta rehearse. Ms. Jackson. You got Ms. Jackson twisted.

[Damaris]

I think anybody would need to rehearse for a major video.

[Rory]

This, I think this Janet Jackson for the.

[Damaris]

I think she just showed up to her video.

[Marlon]

Well, it's not her video cameo. She knows the song.

[Damaris]

She does. She's heard it before.

[Marlon]

Yeah, but she gotta rehearse. She ain't gotta rehearse nothing.

[Rory]

I think the standouts for the album, for people who are not Cardi fans and are not going to sit through an entire Cardi album, if you want the essence of the album, I would listen to Safe man of youf Word Principal, the Janet Sample. The other Janet Sample on my back is good as fuck, too. That's a slower song.

[Marlon]

The new Bronx anthem, Better Than youn featuring Cash. Go Band. Bronx legends is everywhere. I'm just putting that out there for y'.

[Damaris]

All. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. Better than you. That right.

[Marlon]

Take the 4 train uptown, come see some of the legends.

[Rory]

It's all good, pretty and petty, which is the Be a diss and er. Time. Earth Time should have come out in the summer. I'm so sad that we missed that. That was a summer record like that. That song goes crazy. But yeah, good job, Cardi. I'm so proud of you and so happy.

[Damaris]

Congrats.

[Rory]

You did a great job, Cardi. You did a great job.

[Marlon]

Now, Cardi, do me a favor and curse Rory out some more in the dms, please. Just. Cuz I love to see him panicking when he come in here. When you. When he think the brims is coming together, I hate.

[Damaris]

I'm fine for the Podcast to give this nar. Yeah, that's. That's what happened.

[Marlon]

This scared of Belize.

[Rory]

I mean, there's. There's. There's.

[Damaris]

Those could be some famous last words. That's all I'm saying.

[Marlon]

Why? All right, try me. What am I trying?

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Marlon]

I don't got be.

[Damaris]

Her reach is.

[Marlon]

Is.

[Damaris]

Is far.

[Marlon]

Mine's this, too. You want to see? Look. Look where I'm sitting at. Look where my arm is at. See? More reach.

[Rory]

Yeah, Rory, you got a ass arm spin.

[Damaris]

Jesus Christ. What the did I do today?

[Marlon]

It's on Rory Day.

[Damaris]

You everybody celebrating that?

[Marlon]

Yeah. On day.

[Rory]

Did m lift his leg? Y' all are so annoying.

[Damaris]

No, Cardi wouldn't. Would like it better that way.

[Marlon]

What?

[Damaris]

Yeah, her album review would just be on Roy Day.

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

So, you know. Yeah, I'm here for it. Well, yes. I hope everyone lives with it. I hope Janet is in the video.

[Marlon]

Yeah, I need that video. I like that record a lot. I ain't gonna lie. That's probably my favorite record on album.

[Rory]

This is definitely my favorite.

[Marlon]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rory]

So Jay Electronica dropped two music was dropping Jay elect.

[Marlon]

Yo, listen, man. How many more. How many more is dropping, dog? I got out the shower, another one was out. I was like, all right, fam.

[Rory]

Four projects in three days. How many are coming?

[Damaris]

Okay, well, it was four and three days. The first one was act two, which was out incredible 10 years ago, was never on DSP, so. So for the quote unquote rollout, we put out Act 2 the day before.

[Marlon]

That makes sense.

[Damaris]

But we put out three projects in two days, and I have not slept since Thursday. I mean, it's not like I'm giving anything away because he said it on the first project leaflets. He gave Hov 19 albums. Yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be a long month for me.

[Marlon]

Yeah. I'm just happy. I had texted him. I just said thank you. Cause I know how he works. I know that, you know, he's very meticulous, very maniacal, you know, when it comes to his art and his music and a lot of things he doesn't put out. But I was happy that he actually it happened. You said it was gonna happen, but I was actually glad to see it actually happen. And we get some new music from Jay Electronica. The written testimony leaflet's incredible. The other. What is it? Written testimony two. No, act two is the one that he put out first. Right?

[Damaris]

Yes. Act two was from you.

[Marlon]

Patents of nobility to turn a written testimony power at the rate of My dreams that came out and then last night, written testimony.

[Damaris]

Mars, the inhabited planet.

[Marlon]

Right.

[Damaris]

I mean, a lot of this is going to be his story to tell. I. I do have. I have so much to say right now, but I'm gonna chill. Like, of all the war stories of the last few days. Yeah, but a lot of the stuff that. That we worked on the last few years actually hasn't been put out yet. What I will say the three projects that came out outside of like one or two records that we just needed to put on DSPs were done in the last four days. Yeah, everything was done in real time with the rest of these projects. Yeah, you'll get some stuff that we've been working on for a couple years. But all of this was done in the last three days? Yeah, like, literally all of it.

[Marlon]

No, you can hear it.

[Damaris]

Some people like, yo is a hard drive dump. And it's like, nah, this is right now, currently.

[Marlon]

But I like it though. Like, some of the. Some of the bars, some of the verses. I like the fact that, you know, he was in there kind of mumbling to himself and then he go back into his bars. Like, I don't know.

[Damaris]

Like, that's been his style for a little while.

[Marlon]

But I like that type of constructing of bars and verses and things like that. Obviously, anybody that knows Jay Elect knows he does things on his own accord. And when he's ready to, I'm sure, you know, think too about that, Ross, just a little bit. But I was happy to hear the music. It sounds great. The message is powerful. Probably the first artist that actually announced a call to action on his on the album, I thought that was DJ Elect. That's who he is.

[Damaris]

And again, why I'm saying these things were done in real time. He's reading people's tweets of the project that just came out on it, like, while he's recording the next one. So it's creating like a piece in time.

[Marlon]

It's a very J. Elect way of creating and recording and releasing music. Only Jay Elect could record and release the way he is. I'm just happy to see that y' all actually got it out. Yeah, I know that's a task in itself, but to actually get it out and get the message out. If you haven't listened to any of it, do yourself a favor, please listen to all of the albums, all of the projects. The message is powerful. The skill set is incredible. If you know Jaylec, you know that he's always going to be one of the greatest MCs that you'll probably listen to. But the music is actually really great.

[Damaris]

And I look forward to coming on this podcast once we're done with everything and telling the insane stories of putting this together.

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Just right now, while we're in the.

[Marlon]

Middle of it, it's still happening.

[Damaris]

It's not the time, and it's Jay's story to tell. But I sent a photo of. Did I put it in the recording chat of me and Cruz on an IV in a motel room?

[Marlon]

No.

[Damaris]

Okay. Well, that was from this weekend.

[Marlon]

Yeah. Gotta. Gotta stay hydrated. No sleep.

[Damaris]

None.

[Marlon]

No sleep.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I felt like I was back online, matter of fact, when I was allegedly pledging Kappa, which means I just paid and took a test. I think I slept more when I was pledging.

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Than I have in the last week. But I'm just super happy that this stuff is coming out. You know, some of the calls I got over the weekend from people that have been with Jay for, you know, 20 years, and they were like, yo, the fact that you guys as a team were able to just put something out.

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Says more than anything now you want to do 19. So I'm excited. I mean, I also understand, too. I didn't have much time to, like, look at reviews and shit like that because everything was happening in the moment. But I know it's an acquired taste. But again, the message is important.

[Marlon]

The message is very important.

[Damaris]

I encourage people to listen to it with an open ear. If it's not your shit, I get it. But I think a lot of people, which I've done too, with like. And Jay's not a lyrical miracle rapper by any means, but some people go into like, that's not my type of shit.

[Marlon]

He can be for sure, but not as lyrical miracle as people think.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Based off, I guess, the perception of what his beliefs are, they think the whole album is just going to be just talk that they're not going to understand. And that's not the case. Like, listen to it with an open ear. I think you would enjoy it. So, I mean, see you guys in a couple hours.

[Marlon]

Yeah. Another drop on the way.

[Damaris]

Criticism for sure.

[Rory]

Diddy on the intro.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Marlon]

Diddy on the intro.

[Damaris]

Yes, he was on the intro. The first record, Abracadabra, off leaflets, which was the first official one outside of act two that we dropped.

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Diddy starts. Starts the amazing conductor produced record. I mean, it's not my project.

[Marlon]

Not your project, not your call.

[Damaris]

It's Jay's call. At the end of the day, I Can tell one story. Jay is very aware of how I feel about Puff. Puff is very aware about how I feel about puff via FaceTime. That's why I'm laughing. You said I'm scared of Cardi. No, I was. I was definitely more scared when. When I. When I had to get confronted on that. And this was before even the tape had came out, the really unfortunate tape with. With Cassie. You know, I felt like we were the only podcast that was on her side. And I had a conversation on FaceTime. Puff knows how I feel. Jay knows how I feel. It's Jay's project, and that's. Is what it is like. Like, my stance was made. It's never gonna be my call on that type of thing. It's him. So, you know, I can disagree.

[Marlon]

I hit you. We spoke about it. I expressed my displeasure, my POV on starting the album and hearing that intro, like, you know, but I understand his relationship with Jay, you know, and if you know Jay, he's a very. His heart is big, and, you know, he just has different beliefs than most people and has a different heart. So, you know, I understand and respect it. But me and Rory spoke. I expressed my. I won't do it here. But I expressed my. My POV on that whole thing. You know what I'm saying? So.

[Damaris]

Yeah, and it doesn't.

[Marlon]

Rory, didn't he not shine away from it? He.

[Damaris]

No, not.

[Marlon]

We echo the same type of sentiments when it comes to that.

[Damaris]

But no, but I said my piece on it. Straight. Straight to the man on the intro.

[Rory]

Yeah, but. But that's why I said. Because I don't want anybody to accuse you guys of. Of avoiding that topic because I know your point of view, but other people might not. And that is why I wouldn't let y' all skip over it.

[Damaris]

All right, here's my final thing on it. Jay knows my stance. Puff knows my stance. I have been on record on this podcast of my stance that has not changed whatsoever. You guys know my stance. After that, there's not much more I can control.

[Marlon]

Yeah, no.

[Damaris]

At that point, it's like everybody that is important to me and knows where I stand on this whole thing. It also is not my. If this was my album and I did that, now you guys can look.

[Marlon]

At me like, whatever, but I thought it'd be different. I thought you were different.

[Damaris]

And also, again, I'm not here to even knock Jay on it, but he has a different perspective on that situation that's furthers mine because he lived with them, and it doesn't excuse my thoughts on it, but he has a different perspective, which I respect. We have a. Men can have disagreements, friends can have disagreements.

[Marlon]

Absolutely.

[Damaris]

I know his perspective. So that also doesn't make it right because I have my stance on it, but I have a bit more understanding on the situation than. Than maybe most.

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

When it comes to Jay and his relationship with Cassie and with Puff. But, I mean, totally understand. I was scared that that was going to overshadow, like, everything. And of course, of course I saw a lot of the headlines Puff addresses, like, this whole thing. But I don't think it overshadowed all the music. Thank God.

[Marlon]

No, no, no. The music is powerful. I just. I wasn't expecting that when I first started listening to the album.

[Damaris]

But I mean, maybe sometimes that's. That's also the point.

[Marlon]

No, that 100%. And then again, the situation at hand, the artist that we're talking about, just the. The situation dynamic is totally different. So I get that part of it. But the music is incredible. The message is powerful. You know, I love just the unorthodox way of dropping it, releasing it. I love everything about this. Everything. You know, this is J elect. It's against all rules. It's against the norm. It's outside of, you know, what you probably are guessing or what you think. It's exciting, man. It's exciting to see artists do things like this, to go against the grain and just do things based on how they feel and, you know, what they're going through and things like that. Like, I like that type of shit. Like, that's what I think art is supposed to do.

[Damaris]

Yeah. And I mean, when we got to the DSP worlds, things got so structured. And I do like what our whole team is doing here as far as. All right, that's done. The mix don't have to be to what we think it should be. DSP related. This is back to blog era shit. I like this. It's going out. Like, let's just flood as much as we possibly can because they took that opportunity away from us. Like how we used to love mixtapes, how we used to just love Lucy's. Like, all of that is gone. And Jay, I think, is in a unique position being the, like, unicorn and the mystique he has that's over here. Not a lot of artists have. And he doesn't give a fuck about anyone saying, you can't go do this. So he's the only one, I think, that can drop 19 albums in a month of just that. I like this. Now. This could go up.

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

That could have happened in. In 2009, but not now. That's against the grain on everything. So him bringing that back to me is from an era that I love, that. That streaming took away.

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

If. If half this gets taken down, so be it. We'll find another way to put it out.

[Marlon]

Right.

[Damaris]

We'll put it up on SoundCloud. Then it gets taken down. Like, we'll just keep doing this shit over and over. Because this was the era that all of us, like, really became adults in. And Jay became an artist then. Like, that's what he knows. He grew up on all the 90s guys that were doing albums, but when it was time for him to come out, it's like I'm figuring out the Internet.

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Which was kind of a. A rebel thing at that time of being on the blogs, releasing stuff. It was against the grain with the industry. So let's redo it. Let's do it again with streaming. Same way we went against itunes. Let's go against streaming on streaming.

[Marlon]

Yeah. I was.

[Damaris]

I wasn't playing by the rules whatsoever.

[Marlon]

I was reminded how hard it is to really listen to music and connect to music now this weekend. Cause I was trying to listen to all of the J Drops and as well as, you know, the Cardi album. It's these phones, man. It's so hard to consume music through your phone.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Marlon]

Like, because you do everything on your. If somebody calls you. You know what I mean? It's like, take this call. Even if you don't take the call, it interrupted to listen. Somebody texts you, now you. In this conversation, it's like, everything is like. It's hard. It was much easier to consume music when the music was away from the phone aside. Whether it was cd, whether it was vinyl or cassette, it was just a different attachment, a different connection you had to the music. Cause it was just that now when you try to listen to music and albums from your phone, you get distracted so easily and you forget you was even listening to this album. Cause now it's a phone call I had to take. I'm on the phone for 40 minutes. I forgot I was listening to the album. And now I'm in a whole different. I don't even know if I'm going back to the album until later on or tomorrow. Like, it's just a. It's very hard to consume music through your phone.

[Damaris]

I. I've even found myself saying out loud to people like, hey, let's just put something on Netflix that I will be fine. In the background, something I can follow that's simple in a doc like, oh, wait, what I miss. All right, cool. And then I'm just back on my phone, which is not a good way to consume anything.

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

I'm, like, purposely trying to find background noise for things while I'm on my phone doing.

[Marlon]

I put YouTube on the TV and listen to albums. Like. Yeah, just something that's going to separate it from the phone. You know what I'm saying? Like, I need to have it. Like, it's like, okay, nothing is going to interrupt this listen right here. Like, it's not. The music is not gonna stop. I'm gonna listen to it all the way through. It's just a different connection you have with music. When I think it's for me personally, when it's not on my phone.

[Damaris]

Tamara. So is J Elect to you like Carti is to us? We're like, yeah, we'll listen to it, but was it made for us? Like, we're not in the crib?

[Marlon]

Like, the way you feel about Bodega Baddies? That's how I feel about who killed Michael Jackson.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but that's a song on my album.

[Marlon]

Yeah. Like, I turned up to that. Like, I hear that. I just thought, you know what I mean? Like, it's lit. Ah, you feel what I'm saying?

[Rory]

Like, you shake. You shake.

[Marlon]

I ain't. See, I didn't say that.

[Rory]

But you said that. How I feel. I'm telling you how I feel.

[Marlon]

Yeah, but I didn't say how you move is how I move. I didn't say that. See, you see how words are important. I never said I was shaking ass to who killed Michael Jackson. I never said that.

[Damaris]

You could, though. It's a hard beat.

[Marlon]

You could do a lot of things. I'm just saying.

[Damaris]

I'm saying a woman could shake ass to that record.

[Marlon]

Oh, yeah. I mean, she's got the snare for it.

[Damaris]

Like, it could do it. How did you feel about Jay putting Quentin Miller on that record?

[Marlon]

I loved it.

[Damaris]

I did, too.

[Marlon]

I loved it. It wasn't expected, but I love what Quentin did with his verse. And I was happy to see somebody like Jay, you know, open up a verse for Quentin, because we know, obviously, we know how talented Quentin is as a writer and as a rapper, as an artist, period songwriter. So to see him next to J elect and go into Jay's world and, you know, rap about what he was rapping about, it was dope to see that. Like, that wasn't, you know, a feature that I was expecting or even thought about, but when I saw it, I was happy that it happened.

[Damaris]

Yeah, for sure. And even some of like the tweets that I did see that made me smile. Jay Electronica got me researching the battle of Los Angeles in 1942, dog. Tell me why that shit actually happened.

[Marlon]

That's the point of the album. That's the point of the music. A lot of things people don't just ain't conspiracies. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Sometimes you look it up, it's like, oh, wait, no, no, this really happened. This is a fact. Wait, you're telling me police and army shot 14,000 rounds at something in the sky?

[Marlon]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[Damaris]

And that's just never taught.

[Marlon]

Never taught.

[Damaris]

That's not a YouTube rabbit hole.

[Marlon]

That's just.

[Damaris]

That's. That just happened.

[Marlon]

That's why an artist like Jay is important. You know what I mean? It's gonna teach you something. But obviously the flow and everything is still. He's still gonna out rap. Rap some of your. Most of your favorite rappers, but at the same time, he's. He's dedicated to the message and that's what's important about Jay. And I appreciate that.

[Damaris]

Yeah. And I mean, if for the people that are into. I'm not saying conspiracy stuff or just. Just Easter eggs in certain parts of records, research every single title that is on these projects. If you see, most of the time, the title has nothing to do with the record. It's something that he is encouraging you to go research yourself. And it's not a conspiracy.

[Marlon]

Candace Owens, Tell us more. Like, I was like, okay. Like, that's where he at with it, I bet. Jay, Tell us more. Candace. Let's hear it. Yeah, I liked it. I got, you know, once I saw the titles, I was like, okay, I know what Jay doing.

[Damaris]

No, there was even stuff that I had to. When I was typing out, you know, the track list when he was coming up with the ideas for it, some of it, because, you know, him and I talk every day, so I get a lot of this information for the last four years. There was stuff I even had to research and I was like, like, oh, I had no idea about the. The Japan Airlines 1628. That just research.

[Marlon]

One of my favorite songs too.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that was crazy.

[Marlon]

That record is hard.

[Damaris]

If you look into what Blood labelle is like, that is crazy. That's probably one of my favorite verses he's ever done. There's just a lot of on here. And I'm. I'm exhausted, proud, happy, and cannot wait for More of the music to come out. Because this is, I don't know, just a once in a lifetime type of thing that we get to experience this for this month.

[Marlon]

Month. Well, salute to y'. All. Salute to the team. Salute to Jay. Yeah, we're getting it done, getting it out.

[Damaris]

You got to come to HQ and you got to know what it smell like.

[Marlon]

Mentally, I gotta. Yeah, mentally, I gotta. You know what I'm saying? I gotta. I gotta prepare for that. You know what I'm saying?

[Damaris]

I obviously won't say where we're at or what type of place it is, but it's not a place you would expect anyone to be at. And I'm walking out, and somebody was like, rory, the fuck are you doing here?

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And then I could see his mind start to tick, and he said, wait, I thought I just saw Jay. Electronica what are you doing here? Hookers.

[Marlon]

Hookers. Nothing but hookers. Hookers and music.

[Damaris]

Hookers. But, yeah, other than that, that was really my weekend. It was intense. Shout out to Cruz. Shout out. Shout out to Kia. Shout out to my mom. I've been an absent father for a week.

[Marlon]

Yes. Piece of.

[Damaris]

Yeah, for sure. I. I was running home, trying to, like, hey, Amara. And then she. She started getting used to, which, like, made me feel even worse. Like, bye, Daddy.

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, yeah, yeah.

[Damaris]

But, you know, I brought her by because we had a couple different spots outside of where we were recording. I brought her by for a second just so she could see the chaos, but it's not a place for a child.

[Rory]

Not a place for children, not.

[Damaris]

A place for adults.

[Marlon]

Not a place for any sane, functioning adults.

[Damaris]

Guarantee you, out of the four spots that we have in here, three out of four. The murder definitely happened, like, without question. If you started to, like, do the black light shit, you're definitely finding DNA and blood.

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like, without question.

[Marlon]

But, you know, sorry, though, the message. Got it. The message has to be released. That's all. It don't matter where it's from. Just get it out.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Marlon]

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[Damaris]

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[Marlon]

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[Damaris]

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[Marlon]

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[Damaris]

I don't think you thought that.

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[Damaris]

Outside of abandoning Amara, I did actually find some time to watch the bootleg version of the Kanye documentary. Somebody put it up on YouTube. They filmed it like in the theater and the quality was good enough to watch.

[Marlon]

Wait, this was released in theaters?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I didn't know that.

[Damaris]

That's the headline I saw and with the bootleg I saw. Yeah. Can you look that up?

[Marlon]

I don't like theaters only.

[Damaris]

I don't think it's like at the AMC in Times Square, but select theaters. Yeah. And the. The version I saw was somebody in the theater filming it. Like the old, like Canal Canal Street DVD tape type of thing.

[Marlon]

I didn't know that was just in there. That's. Actually, I might go see it now. Now that I know. Since theaters. That might give me an excuse to go to the movies.

[Damaris]

It's. I mean, I guess it's what you think it is. I don't think there was anything on there that gave me a surprise to Kanye because, you know, we've seen so many clips and different sides of his personality. And I don't really know if it gave too much context to it, but it did show Kanye in his own element more than we've ever seen.

[Marlon]

Even more than the genius documentary.

[Damaris]

The genius documentary showed us Kanye west in the beginning of his career in his own environment.

[Marlon]

This is post meltdown, quote, unquote.

[Damaris]

Yeah. This is Kardashian era type.

[Marlon]

This.

[Damaris]

This is Calabasas. Yay. Into Wyoming. Yay.

[Marlon]

Okay.

[Damaris]

In the same type of context, you're seeing him in his own environment in a very, very genuine way. Because sometimes you'd be like, yo, is Kanye doing this for paparazzi? Like, even I love when Cameron was like, kanye's not crazy. I just saw him. He's fine. I walked in there at the most sane human being, like, he's with you. This showed it in a different light. I'm not saying it gave context. I don't even know if Kanye is fully behind this entire thing, but I guess I will applaud him by saying he didn't shy away or try to make himself look any better or add context to things, but it's Kanye west in a very. Paul's raw form. I really enjoyed the doc. Again, it. There's a difference between enjoying the doc and then enjoying the person. That's the lead of the dock, right? Because there's a lot of moments where, you know, he is a very destructive, not only to himself, but to the people around him. And I. I know we. We joke about what I had said about game and this and that, but Kanye has been diagnosed before, but we don't know what's accurate and what's not. You. You see that side of him for sure.

[Marlon]

So wait, he's not a part of this documentary at all.

[Rory]

He has to.

[Marlon]

Should we even be supporting this, like. Cause I'll be ready to go to the theater and watch it, like.

[Damaris]

But I mean, if he was. I mean, was he fully behind that as well? Because I remember. And, you know, Kanye would never go back on his word. I remember him saying something like, bad about Cootie and them about that. Even though he's in the doc saying, yo, I got my man here that's been with me for 20 years, and we want to sell this doc. But I remember Kanye being upset when that came up out. So I. I don't know, okay. Judging off what happened with Genius, but that's. I don't know if Kanye pulled out. Paul pulled out of this entire thing, because the. The director. I think it was. Yes, Jwes, that Was saying that he has been around following Kanye forever. I don't know if this was something he took upon himself after he stopped working with Kanye the same way, you know, creative control did. But I don't know. It's. It's. It's a lot where the. The. The genius one has redemption and, like, a real human aspect of it. This one has chaos. It makes you uncomfortable. It's a little bit scary. It gives you a lot of empathy for people that are around him and in some degrees, empathy for him as well. I'm not saying he's a terrible person, but he is very much destructive on purpose. It feels like. Like he's very lucid in what he's doing. I don't think he's having complete freakouts and meltdowns where he doesn't know what he's doing. I think he organized. Very, very lucid in what he's doing.

[Marlon]

Yeah, yeah.

[Damaris]

But, yeah, it's. It's a. It's a lot. But then again, I mean, yeah, Kanye screaming at Kris Jenner. I don't, like, cosign how he did all that, but if you have a real American family, if they put a camera in your fucking house, would it be much different?

[Marlon]

Yeah, I saw that clip of him. It's wrong. It's just a clip. So you kind of look at it like, all right, well, I looked at it like, I need more context. Like, what was this conversation? Why is Kanye screaming at Kris Jenner like this? But, yeah, that's the end. I saw, obviously, the Michael Che clip at SNL when Kanye. Kanye had hosted SNL at that time, right?

[Damaris]

Yeah, that was the time when he said, they bullied me for the red hat and that entire thing. Yeah, but I mean, I respected what. What Michael Che was saying at that time, because there's only one black comedian when you're going on your rant. He was like, you wasn't talking about Leslie. Like. Like who? He was talking about me. Like, look, I think he had every right to do what he did.

[Marlon]

No, absolutely. Absolutely. And if you feel like somebody disrespected you and obviously you didn't have the opportunity to defend yourself or. Or something like that, then. Especially if you feel like you had a com. Like a relationship with the person.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Marlon]

You'd be like, yo, like, you know, I didn't see anything wrong with Michael Che. I'm not gonna say I don't like the word press, because press makes it.

[Damaris]

Seem like I hate that too.

[Marlon]

Yeah, like, don't.

[Damaris]

Don't we Had a conversation. There was.

[Marlon]

Yeah, it's a conversation. Michael Che didn't press Kanye West. He had a conversation. He approached him about something. He said that he didn't like. It's not a. We don't have to say press. You know, it's not like he threatened to put hands on Kanye if he said it again. Like, that's a press. Like, yo, say, keep my name out your fucking mind. That's a press. But Michael Che was just like, yo, that's fucked up, man. Like, I love you. Like, why would you, you know, put me out there like that or say that about, you know, me and, you know, it's like I can't even do nothing about it. I gotta kinda just eat that. Like, that's fucked up. So I understood as a man. That's just. Man shit. As a man, you know, he's approach somebody that he knows he has a relationship with, with that he thought was cool with him, and, you know, just expressed that he didn't like something he said. But I didn't see anything wrong with that.

[Damaris]

This was the. The very frustrating. Well, actually, I'm going to say that because there's been a lot of frustrating Kanye west eras. This one was especially frustrating because this was around the time when he started with the MAGA stuff and he was all about having dialogue. And then when someone like Van Lathan would try to have dialogue with him or somebody like Michael Che would try to have dialogue with him, him. Everything he said before that, he would just go, but I love you. No, no, I'm. I'm replying to everything you just said. Yeah, in a very.

[Marlon]

I love you too. This doesn't take the level. Yeah, but what you just said was crazy.

[Damaris]

I'm replying to it. Yeah, you keep saying you want to have dialogue. That's our problem. And then anytime I retort any point, you have to say like, but I love you. It's like, all right, so you're just being a hypocrite on this dialogue thing that you want to keep having. No, you want to spew out insane headlines that you've read from some of your Republican friends. And then when somebody is just like, what would you mean by that? I don't think it works that way. You go, wait, but I love you. Yeah, yeah, what are we doing here? Like, you can't even have a conversation with somebody like that.

[Rory]

And some people are also very bad at having conversation that they deem confrontational. Like, you ever had a conversation with somebody who you could only have A deep conversation with. Through text. Because if you're talking to them, their response time, like in text, it's almost like they're either nervous or they're not quick enough on their feet. Like, it gives. You don't know how to defend your points without time.

[Marlon]

I think people have. People that have a hard time having conversations that can be deemed confrontational. I think it's most times because they know either they're wrong or they're lying.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I can see that.

[Marlon]

Like, if you have a problem with having a conversation about something that you know may come across as kind of like you're confronting an issue. Cause that's all it is. When they say confrontational.

[Rory]

Confrontational.

[Marlon]

It's just. I'm just confronting the issue at hand. People that have a hard time with that is they either lying or, you know, they know they were wrong and can't admit that they're wrong. Yeah, and I can see that being Kanye a lot. Like, you know, he knows he was in the moment. He probably doesn't mean any harm. But then as Michael Che is saying it, he's hearing it back. Like, yeah, that might have been unnecessary. Like, I didn't have to put that out there like that. But I do love you. And it's like, I get that part, but you still. This was live television.

[Damaris]

Like, he's like, I work here.

[Marlon]

Yeah, Like. Like, you said some crazy shit and Stu. And it's just like, bro, now I gotta deal with that. You leave this studio and don't have to ever come back. I have to be back here, like, just in a few days. Like, these people have to see me again.

[Damaris]

But that was the first Kanye era where I felt like he jumped out the window without fully understanding or believing what he said. Like, if you go to any interviews, whether it be with Zane Lowe and he's talking about Polaroids and cameras and Lady Gaga and his music and the industry, Kanye will have crazy dialogue arguments with anyone. His Breakfast Club interview, everything he said at that point is really what happened for the next 10 years when they were trying to debate him on it. When he knows what he's talking about. Kanye is great. This was the first time when he linked up with, like, Candace and Nick Fuentes. I'm not saying he didn't believe what Candace was saying. He was just not well researched on anything. So the only thing he had was what Candace said as a talking head at one point. So when he would get someone to say something back, he wouldn't have a retort because he didn't research it. That's why you get that TMZ shit when Van says that, and he's just like, yo, I love you, bro. Let me give you a hug. And Candace keeps stepping in to answer the questions because Kanye was not well read or well versed on any of those points.

[Marlon]

Right.

[Damaris]

They were just controversial. So he said that. That's, to me, is where the Kanye really went left. And it wasn't because it was a Republican thing. It was because he didn't know what the he was talking about. Every time before that, whether you agreed with him or not, he knew what he was talking about. He was passionate. He actually believed that. This time, he's saying on SNL and has no idea what he's talking about. And Michael Che is like, I'm trying to have a conversation. Kanye can't have a conversation on that because he doesn't know what the he's talking about.

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Later on, he did start to research that more and, like, form a real opinion. But at this time, he was hoping Candace would step in and just. Yeah. What she said.

[Marlon]

Yeah, yeah.

[Damaris]

You just are doing this because it's controversial.

[Marlon]

Well, I don't know how I feel about supporting this now, going to the movies and paying to see it if.

[Rory]

You don't know he's involved. I thought n weren't supporting Kanye west anymore. I thought that that was like, the.

[Marlon]

Thing, like, nah, you bugging. I'm still waiting for my Hitler ones. Dude, I paid $25 from joints. Fall is here. It's the first day of fall. What's up? I need my boots. Yeah. What you doing?

[Damaris]

You want to go to the theaters in the booth?

[Marlon]

Yeah, I want to go to my. Go to see the dock with the. The Hitler one zone, man. What's up with you? Send me my shit. Yeah, but I'm not gonna say I don't support Kanye because he's an artist and obviously he releases things. We're gonna check it out. We're gonna see what he. He has to, you know, say or what he's giving us. So I guess that's supporting him. I'm just saying if this is a doc that he didn't want say he didn't want this to come out. He didn't. He doesn't. I don't know how I feel about paying to go to the theater to see it.

[Rory]

See, I feel like that would be in that. That's. You, like, like being supportive of Kanye. Like, if Kanye was a good person, then I would maybe consider not spending my Money for someone else to, you know, get money off his back. Like, not. And not support.

[Marlon]

You don't think Kanye is a good person.

[Rory]

But now I don't know him personally, so let me say that from what I've seen, what I've been presented, the information that I have, no. And I. So I don't care about somebody like, exploiting him. And if it's entertaining to me, I'll go see it. Like, that's just me being honest. He doesn't. I've seen him hop on the backs of other people's tragedy just because he knew that people were gonna disagree about certain things and try to make money off it and be exploitive of it. So I don't care, honestly.

[Marlon]

Okay, I respect that. Yeah.

[Damaris]

I mean, judging by what Wikipedia has as far as producers, director, this is just starring Kanye West. Yeah. Directed by Nico, produced by Nico, a bunch of other names added by Nico.

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Rory]

This.

[Marlon]

Yeah. Kanye's not happy with this. I want to see those text messages, he cursing somebody.

[Damaris]

But I mean that. See, that's where you get in trouble. When you're an artist that just has someone following you around with a camera, they own it on that footage because we. We saw it with. With like, choke. No joke.

[Marlon]

Joke.

[Damaris]

If you have someone, you need to hire them every time they follow you once. If you pay them, that's your footage. Now I'm paying you to film me. I own that. This is your fee to shoot it. If they just walking around with a camera now, they own that shit.

[Marlon]

You don't think Kanye was saying them?

[Damaris]

Oh, I don't know. But I. If he had. If he could easily put this out this way. I can't see there was a place that there was payment or paperwork.

[Marlon]

Kanye had to be paying him 3,000 hours of footage. Kanye had to be for you to have 3,000 hours of footage on somebody. I, I would guess that that artist.

[Damaris]

But then there needs to be a clear contract that I'm paying you and that I own whatever you shoot or.

[Marlon]

Just buy the camera. Right.

[Rory]

It's not even about the camera. You could buy the camera, the memory card with me, though.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Marlon]

But if I own the camera and all of the. With it, that's, that's my. No, true. Yeah, true.

[Damaris]

But a lot of times you can't.

[Marlon]

Just take that footage from that. I, I, that. That's mine. Like, you know what I'm saying? You can't just take that footage and because you recorded it. I own the camera. I own the hard drive. I own all of that. Like, you can't just take that. So I don't know. This is. Again, I'm. I'm pretty sure Kanye is on somebody's email or text messages going crazy.

[Damaris]

I mean, we got. We got Kanye Doc and Jay elect both. On September 19, I saw Tik Tok saying that Tuesday, the Rapture was coming. I mean, get your. Get your affairs in order, man.

[Marlon]

Tik Tok.

[Damaris]

Kanye west is a whole documentary out J. Like, is dropping albums. The end is near.

[Marlon]

Well, call Jay. He would know the.

[Damaris]

It's true.

[Marlon]

He know what time. He know. He know what time the ships get here.

[Damaris]

Listen, man, last time. Last time he dropped the album. Co happened the next day.

[Marlon]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So it's right on par. It's right on par. Let's see what world tragedy is coming Tuesday.

[Damaris]

Did you see that. That Tik Tok trend? Damaris, specifically, because you're on there a lot, that the Rapture is coming. As we know. As you're listening to.

[Marlon]

As you're hearing this.

[Damaris]

As a matter of fact, you may not have listened to this because you're in heaven.

[Marlon]

Unless they're playing this on the ship.

[Rory]

I think I've heard something about Christian. Christian talk was saying that the Rapture is coming on Tuesday, right?

[Marlon]

Yeah, Christian talk.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Marlon]

Okay.

[Damaris]

There was. There was Christians selling their cars, which I didn't fully understand. If the rap. Like, you could just hold your car for a day, like, do you have plans that you sell it? And then for the next three hours, like, I'm gonna get. I'm go crazy.

[Marlon]

Don't pay your rent.

[Damaris]

Like, if the Raptors go, why do you even care? Why are you filling your cupboards with food?

[Marlon]

Oh, my God.

[Damaris]

They had some, I think were fake, but there were real ones that weren't making fun of the Rapture Tuesday that were giving instructions on what to do. Once. Once you were gathered by the light, they were like, if you're scared of heights, don't look down at any point. Do not try to grab around you in the Rapture because you don't want to put your hand outside of, like, whatever the beam of light that brings you up is. They were like, don't try to do any flips. But to me, if I. If I start going up this way, which I'm probably not, probably going down, I would try to do, like, a few flips.

[Marlon]

That'd be kind of fun if somebody told you that. Okay. Is it insensitive? Let me. Let me. No, let me. Come on, baby. D. Chill. Why You. I'm trying to have a real conversation with you.

[Damaris]

No, you're not trying to have a conversation.

[Marlon]

I am. Okay, just listen.

[Damaris]

It.

[Marlon]

Is it insensitive if somebody is telling you that they're. They're contemplating suicide? Right. But they tell you like, yo, I got to save up. I got to pay my rent and I got to buy the gun. And I'm sitting there looking at them.

[Rory]

Like, now that's probably why they want to kill themselves. Look what they got to do. That's hard work.

[Damaris]

First of all, I'm not trying to be insensitive either, but I'm not paying.

[Rory]

My rent if I'm killing myself.

[Marlon]

Welcome to the party, baby. That's all I'm trying to. So now somebody's telling you. Looking at them like, what? Like, what are you talking about? Like, you gotta pay.

[Rory]

Also not saving up to buy the gun. Like, I'm going to steal the gun.

[Damaris]

That's what's funny to me. Like, you about to kill yourself, like, putting your head down, buckling down, focusing.

[Marlon]

Getting your responsibility together just to kill yourself?

[Damaris]

Like, that's like, you're not like, yo, I really. I want my. My kid to go to private school. I just got to focus, lock. In the next two years, I'm just doing this. But like, to do that, to get like a 380, they would have said.

[Rory]

Like, I'm paying my mortgage off, so my family got somewhere to live. That makes sense. But like, paying rent, like, yo, if I'm.

[Marlon]

That's all. So it's not insensitive if I look at them like, yo, what?

[Damaris]

Yeah. Yes.

[Marlon]

All right, cool.

[Damaris]

If you want to kill yourself, if you feel like you're going to pass away soon, go to a loan shark shark, get some money, buy what you want.

[Marlon]

There's so many.

[Damaris]

And then where was.

[Rory]

Where does one find a loan shark asking for.

[Damaris]

I'm not snitching.

[Rory]

But, like, hypothetically, like, if you needed a loan shark, like, where would you go? Because I could never find him.

[Damaris]

Do you know where people gamble? Okay, that would be a good start.

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

If you know somebody that's heavily into gambling, they may be your six degrees of separation to get to a possible.

[Marlon]

They know a guy guy.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Because they've needed him before.

[Marlon]

Yeah, yeah. They know a guy. They know a guy.

[Damaris]

They know a guy and, oh, a guy.

[Marlon]

Yeah, they know a guy and, oh, a guy for sure. And the guys looking for them.

[Damaris]

But he's probably a terrible reference.

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like, if he co Signs you. I know the lone shark and be like, yeah, all right.

[Marlon]

Yeah. Like, he might not give you nothing, but yeah, okay. Why you need a long shark? I'll be a long shark.

[Rory]

So what makes them the shark? Like, what's the shark?

[Marlon]

You don't want to find up.

[Damaris]

Kind of up, though, with. With lone sharking. Like, obviously, lone sharking is not always for gambling, but it is a major part of it. Now that gambling is illegal. Insert ad. Because we love hard rock. Now that gambling is legal and weed is legal, wouldn't loan sharking start to follow logically? Obviously, it's what the banks do, so it would never be legal. But. But how the. Is gambling legal now and loan sharking?

[Marlon]

Because they can't pay taxes on it.

[Damaris]

I can't do a loan and pay some taxes on it. I'll cut in J.P. morgan.

[Marlon]

No, but if you can get half my fig.

[Damaris]

I don't know.

[Marlon]

No, it's a loan shark. If I'm lending you money and you gotta. Obviously you gotta pay back with interest.

[Damaris]

On it, they do it at a better rate than the banks. And you don't need to get the whole background. Of course. But I know why it's illegal. But I'm saying I understood why gambling was illegal at one point. I understood when I.

[Marlon]

But you know why I know why it's legal now of tax.

[Damaris]

Because a hard rock is amazing.

[Marlon]

Exactly. Exactly.

[Damaris]

All right, well, tax my vig.

[Rory]

But no, there's also stuff that comes with loan sharking. Right. That would not be legal in any way, shape or form. Like, that's the part of the. Like, I can run from Chase Morgan. Like, I can run for life. Right.

[Marlon]

They gonna catch. Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah. I can't hide.

[Marlon]

But same thing with the lone shark. You can run, but you can't hide.

[Damaris]

Nah. If I owe. If I owe my mortgage to a bank and they're doing a foreclosure, I'd rather take an ass whooping to buy me another week for sure.

[Marlon]

Absolutely. I would, too, definitely.

[Damaris]

If that'll buy me another week. You sending a message? Break my legs. I will wheelchair my ass to go get your money. Like, JP Morgan will take my life away. I'll never be able to get another loan. My credit will be fucked. I can't even get a bank account.

[Marlon]

Yeah, you definitely want to owe a.

[Damaris]

Bank that's killing somebody while they're alive. When the bank takes it.

[Marlon]

That's a slow death right there.

[Damaris]

Just beat me up. I got you. I just need two more weeks.

[Marlon]

Yeah, you can punch me in the face every morning.

[Damaris]

That's my payment. I'mma get you your money. Just don't ruin my life.

[Marlon]

Punch me in my face every moment. Yeah, come on, come on, let's get it over. I got to catch the train.

[Damaris]

I'm on my way to work. This eye is about to shut. Could you at least to get your money, I need at least one eye open.

[Marlon]

Yeah, I can't get your money if I can't see, sir. Yeah, leave me one eye.

[Damaris]

But no, I mean, I. I hope, knock on wood. I never have to go to a lone shark. Cuz that's you yourself.

[Marlon]

Over.

[Rory]

What's the form of torture you guys are most afraid of? Like when you like are afraid of getting tortured, like, what's the form of torture you're most afraid of? Like, I'm afraid of getting punched in my nose and of having my fingernails ripped out.

[Damaris]

Oh yeah, fingernails.

[Marlon]

You're afraid of getting punched in your nose?

[Rory]

In my nose. I've been punched in my face plenty. I've been punched in my nose. That's why I know to be afraid of it. It getting punched directly square dead in your nose, that is.

[Marlon]

I mean, it hurt. I'm not afraid. I wouldn't say I'm afraid of it. That's not.

[Rory]

That's one of my biggest fears.

[Marlon]

I think it's punched in your nose.

[Rory]

Oh, you ain't like, you ain't really got punched in your nose well enough for you to understand that pain when you.

[Marlon]

Me, I got punched in my nose. I thought my was broke. I definitely got punched.

[Damaris]

That.

[Rory]

Nah, I'm cool. I'm cool.

[Damaris]

It's that weird smell too.

[Marlon]

Yeah, but be.

[Damaris]

You know how I smell when you get punched in the nose, it's like.

[Rory]

You could smell everything at once.

[Marlon]

You smell your baby shoes, you smell the shoes you got on as a.

[Damaris]

Baby, it's like a smoke. Explain. I've never smelled a smell similar to that. Memories.

[Marlon]

You start smelling everything you ever smelled in your life because you think that's the last time you're gonna smell something. Yes. You go numb right after that.

[Damaris]

Fingernails. I never thought about that, but that would make my life.

[Rory]

Getting my fingernails.

[Damaris]

Getting your teeth pulled. Oh, that. Oh God, that would. I would give it up. What information you need.

[Marlon]

I don't know about. Yeah. Teeth pulled is crazy. Nails pulled out is probably worse. Yeah. Then they call that a. They call it like a.

[Rory]

Some type of manicure. What is it called?

[Marlon]

The Mexican manicure or Russian manic? No, not a Russian. It's like a.

[Damaris]

They probably both do it Though Mexican.

[Marlon]

Or Colombian, anywhere with the cartel, they call that.

[Damaris]

What's the movie with Jamie Foxx where he's the prosecutor? It's a great, great movie. There's a guy that. His fam. Two guys rob his family and kill his daughter and wife. And he, like, happens to be like, law abiding citizen. Law abiding citizens, Yo. He. These two guys picked the wrong family to try to rob. This guy, like, works for the CIA and put together all these intricate ways to kill people and to torture people. These two dumbasses picked that house, killed his wife and daughter. He puts a plan together for like 10 years because Jamie Foxx as a prosecutor, does a plea deal with one of the guys and he gets out. Out.

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

So he takes a puffer fish and puts it on the inside of a gun with a handle. So when you pull the trigger, the puffer fish poison comes out. So the guy that killed his wife and daughter pulls the trigger and he gets into this numb, whatever puffer fish do. Like, it paralyzes you, but you can feel everything. He then cuts the eyelids off of this guy, puts him in one of those, like, surgical things with a mirror on top. So he has to watch himself. He goes from, like, limb to limb and just tears him apart. And then keeps giving him adrenaline and cocaine so he stays up and can't pass out. So this guy watched himself just be deteriorated.

[Marlon]

That's a well thought out. I was like, that's some well thought out.

[Damaris]

Christ.

[Marlon]

Now the crazy shit is when they. The video of them dumping the dude in the water in the ocean that stole. That ran off with the work from the cartel and they caught him. That was crazy.

[Damaris]

I like that one.

[Marlon]

Imagine, like, you getting. They're preparing to dump you into the ocean, and you just laying there handcuffed and, you know, they about to throw me over with this big ass cement block attached to my feet, like. And I'mma just like, drown. That's not like you literally, like, he was way too calm for me. Cause I would have been. I'm taking a few of you niggas with me.

[Rory]

Me.

[Marlon]

He just laying there like, yo, I'm.

[Damaris]

Holding on to you. W. Wow.

[Marlon]

Not like I'm taking. Somebody's coming overboard with me.

[Rory]

Like, y' all gonna have to shoot.

[Marlon]

Me before I. Yeah, I'm getting this death grip on somebody, and it's like, yo, kill me. I'm not. You're not throwing me overboard while I'm alive. And I'm just, like, just waiting to pass out and drown like, that was watching. That was crazy. That was one of the craziest, like, torture things I think I've seen.

[Damaris]

Well, I've heard obviously not from a real, real source. Drowning is the most peaceful way to die, though, because eventually after the, you know, the chaos of you trying to find air, your. Your brain loses oxygen and you're not dead, but you go into a Zen state where. Where it is a very calming way to go out. But like all the struggle stops at one point.

[Rory]

You have like a good, like minute of hell, though. Like, like a good minute of hell, honestly.

[Damaris]

Shit, even the weakest human body, probably more than a minute, to be quite honest. Your body is going to fight no matter who you are. And yeah, it's probably more you. We couldn't hold our breath for a minute if we tried now, but if we had no choice, our body could do it.

[Marlon]

You can't hold your breath for a minute?

[Damaris]

Maybe I could. I haven't tried in a long time.

[Rory]

I got like 20 seconds in me. I smoke too much hookah.

[Marlon]

20 seconds? You can only hold your breath for 20 seconds?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Marlon]

How y' all gotta work on y' all lungs, man. 20 seconds is crazy. That's not even a commercial. You can't hold your breath more than 20 seconds.

[Rory]

All right, we're gonna keep pot. I'mma let y' all talk and I'mma try to hold my breath and we gonna see how long I could go. But yeah, all right.

[Damaris]

P.E. just when we say go, put in the lower third a clock.

[Marlon]

Count n the mar going be over there sneak breathing.

[Damaris]

Peach has the headphones on. He can. He can hear. Put, put pause. Put a your mouth.

[Marlon]

See the nostrils flaring up?

[Rory]

Wait, let me know when we're starting.

[Marlon]

She breathing through her ears. That's cheating, right?

[Rory]

I'mma know. I'mma start at 66, 30, which. Cuz we had that clock in in front of it, so I'm going start at six.

[Marlon]

I'm not believing with the Maris though.

[Rory]

I'm really not going to do it.

[Damaris]

He'll be able to hear in the mic if she breathes. He.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. Peach will Peach be everything?

[Marlon]

Not the mar. Got them little knock.

[Rory]

Y' all got to keep potting though, so.

[Damaris]

No, we definitely going to. It's not going to be silent for the 10 seconds.

[Marlon]

Yeah, I'm going to be looking at you, just talking.

[Damaris]

Yo. Just. She didn't even take a breath before she.

[Marlon]

That's going be less. Yeah. Something that's less than 20 seconds. It's.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I Don't know where we're at either way. Anything that has to do with fire, I'm terrified of.

[Marlon]

Yeah, she burning a lot. She queefing. She breathing through her.

[Damaris]

You can't make a laugh.

[Marlon]

She definitely breath.

[Damaris]

Have you ever heard a girl. Freaky girls talk about when they suck a dick, they breathe through their ears.

[Marlon]

I love those types.

[Damaris]

He said, I love those.

[Marlon]

When they tweet like that, I follow them. Like.

[Damaris]

Look at this renegade.

[Marlon]

As soon as I see them tweeting like. Like that, I'm like, let me follow her because she's. She's giving out some. Some scriptures. Absolutely.

[Damaris]

I. I honestly feel like Damaris has definitely breathed.

[Marlon]

She breathed through her nose, you know.

[Damaris]

You know, the kids.

[Marlon]

When you do the.

[Damaris]

When you're in the pool when you were younger and went underwater, and then one kid would, like, pop his head up and wait to see and then come back down. Yeah. Yeah. That's what she's doing right now. Yeah.

[Marlon]

What was that? 54 seconds.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah. See?

[Marlon]

Oh, that's not bad. Yeah, 54 seconds ain't bad, baby.

[Damaris]

Dude, you get to hang with a.

[Rory]

Cartel and I don't. I haven't even practiced for real. Ma wasn't making me laugh. I probably could have got another 30 seconds in, but Ma was really about to make me laugh.

[Marlon]

I held my breath so long one day, I almost passed out.

[Damaris]

You know, you could just start breathing.

[Marlon]

Nah. Like, we was. It was like a. It was like a bet. It was like $200. So I was like, all right. I started getting lighthead. I said, man, fuck that $200. My homeboy held his breath almost, like, two minutes. Some crazy shit. I think that's crazy, holding your breath for two minutes.

[Rory]

I could do it. I think I could do it, though.

[Marlon]

Two minutes. No way.

[Damaris]

Also just, like, blocking oxygen to your brain. I don't know if that's, like, the best strategy.

[Marlon]

No, but two minutes ain't gonna do nothing to you.

[Damaris]

I don't know, man.

[Marlon]

Well, you. You kind of.

[Damaris]

I'm all right. I'm already.

[Marlon]

Oxygen gingers can't hold.

[Damaris]

But usually, like, that's how people end up as vegetables, because they block two minutes.

[Marlon]

You think two minutes, you're a vegetable?

[Damaris]

No, of course not. But I'm just saying that's a bad thing to block oxygen.

[Marlon]

20 minutes. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Who. Who's the writer of Too Fast, Too Furious? Because they have a sick mind. One of the scariest tortures I've ever seen was when they lay that guy down in the club and Put a rat on his stomach and then cover the rat and then start putting fire on whatever's covering it. Cuz the theory was that the rat can only go down.

[Marlon]

Yeah. Eat his way through your stomach.

[Damaris]

Duh.

[Marlon]

John Sing.

[Damaris]

John Single. He was a director. Did he write that? John Singleton did. Too Fast, Too Furious.

[Marlon]

That's crazy.

[Damaris]

I never knew that.

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Y' all are sick. I want to know the inspiration for.

[Marlon]

That is another Fast and Furious coming out, right? Yeah. Yeah. Y'. All. Y' all acting like this ain't gonna keep going.

[Rory]

No, I knew they. They had a. They had a contract for 10. Which one is coming out? Is it 10 or is it.

[Marlon]

Nah, we passed 10, baby. Yeah, we passed 10. I think this is past 10. 10. This might be like 11, 12.

[Rory]

Cuz they said. They said a number 8 was going to space or something, and I just. I.

[Marlon]

11.

[Damaris]

You didn't believe ludicrous could go to space? 11 is nuts. Damn. Ja Rule. Yo. Damn. J.

[Marlon]

The.

[Rory]

That's how I feel when I. When I seen that Terence Howard fumble fucking being like, Iron Man's best friend. Like, it's like, God damn, yo.

[Damaris]

Oh, what? I don't even know about that.

[Rory]

Yeah, he was in the first one, and then I guess they weren't trying to pay him enough, so.

[Marlon]

Terrence Howard was on the first what?

[Rory]

Iron Man.

[Marlon]

What?

[Rory]

He was. Rhodey.

[Marlon]

Damn.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Marlon]

How long ago did the first Iron man come out?

[Damaris]

I have no idea.

[Rory]

Like, fucking 20 years ago.

[Marlon]

Yeah, that was long. That was a while ago.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

So how are they going to do this without. About Paul Walker? How many have they done without Paul?

[Marlon]

Like, three without Paul Walker.

[Rory]

Like, three.

[Marlon]

Like, they.

[Damaris]

They like. Like Demer said I clocked out a while ago.

[Rory]

No, they had, like, three.

[Marlon]

Yeah. They probably got, like, three without Paul.

[Damaris]

I watched the one that they had to finish it with his brother as, like, a.

[Rory]

That was seven.

[Damaris]

So seven was the last one I saw as Wiz Khalifa was closing the movie out. Yeah. As I was crying during the credits.

[Marlon]

That was the last 2015.

[Rory]

Oh, I. Boo. Who?

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Yeah.

[Marlon]

That was 16.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Be top of 2016. Had to be.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

2015. 2015. Yeah.

[Marlon]

Yeah. Cause I went to the theater and saw that. I remember because it was a theater where the seats move. And I said, never again. I didn't need all that. Watching a movie, nauseous.

[Rory]

And I never been to one of those before.

[Marlon]

Don't ever go to none of those.

[Rory]

Really?

[Marlon]

That was terrible.

[Damaris]

Wait, so you felt like you was in the car?

[Marlon]

Yeah. It starts moving it starts vibrating, and I'm trying to eat my popcorn. I'm like, nah, this.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Marlon]

And then you looking around at other seats like, it ain't no regular seats in here. Like, I just want watched the movie tip around. I didn't know, but we didn't know. Like, I. You know, they start saying in IMAX 3D all this other. I'm like, man, what time the movie start? I'm old school, yo. What time the movie start? I'm not looking at imax. All this other. Well, we sit down. But I'm just thinking it's the bass at first, because the. The chair is vibrating. So I'm like, damn. Like, this sound system crazy, yo. When this started leaning the chair, and I was like, oh, no, no, no, I'm. No, we not doing that.

[Rory]

I'm crying. I would. I would have d to have been a flyer.

[Marlon]

We can't do this.

[Rory]

With Maul rocking around like, he and the.

[Damaris]

What is Damaris. Is it a ick if you're on a date to fast and furious with the moving chairs and that just jolt him a little too much.

[Rory]

Yeah, Like, I'm like.

[Damaris]

I am like, you can't handle the moving chair.

[Marlon]

I didn't know. First of all, I didn't know this chair was moving. How about that? Like, I just thought the recline was the. Just give me a chair that reclines in the theater. I'm cool with that. All this other shit they got going on, and then they got one now. Somebody was telling me where it, like, sprays water. I was like, no, no, we not doing all of that. You're not taking me. This ain't Disney World, bro. I'm in the middle of Manhattan at a movie theater, bro. Like, don't spray me. Where's this water coming from? First of all, let's start there. Where is this? Where's this line of water coming from? Like, what is this? Don't spray me with no water. No movie theater.

[Damaris]

Oh, no. I told you. I took a Amara to Legoland and they had, like, one portion of it. Had, like, one of those quick movie things, and they did the water spray. Pray. And you're supposed to just do 10 minutes. Then the next group goes. Amara was screaming when I was trying to take her out because she just wanted to be under the water. Ms. Thing for the next 45 minutes.

[Marlon]

I hate everything. Kids. Yes.

[Damaris]

How would you not realize that Kids like mist?

[Marlon]

Yeah, kids love that. Anything with. Where they can just get filthy dirty. That's. They not. They're not Gonna leave there. Like, I live by. I used to live by Legoland, and when I see kids outside, I'm like. I look at their parents like, y' all are in trouble. Trouble. Because it's, like, great when they see it.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Marlon]

You have to leave, though, at some point. Like, getting the kid to walk out of there. All you hear is screaming. I'm like, why would you even take a kid to Legoland? That's like torture for yourself.

[Damaris]

I saw. Can you pull up just their kid to have fun. Lvr Instagram. I was looking at Justice IG Story, and he went to the Sphere to see wizard of Oz. This looked like the greatest thing of all time to me. The Sphere in Vegas.

[Marlon]

Yeah. I saw a clip of this last week.

[Damaris]

Nah, this looks nuts.

[Marlon]

I would definitely go just to see that.

[Damaris]

In the Oculus wizard of Oz, you could, like, get taken into the tornado.

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Nah. Twister.

[Marlon]

And I think it's the same thing here. The defects inside the spheres. Fog. Fog, wind, things like that. That's fire.

[Damaris]

Justice said they were throwing leaves at them.

[Marlon]

Yes. Leaves in there.

[Damaris]

Imagine you chilling in. Leaves. Just be.

[Rory]

I like stuff.

[Damaris]

This looks incredible.

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

I would love to go to this. I mean, I definitely want to go to a concert there with the Sphere. But watching a movie like this, that would be so cool.

[Rory]

He probably paid 200 to watch a movie he's seen 500 times.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but not like this.

[Marlon]

Yeah. For that. You ain't see it like that, though.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Marlon]

You ain't like, you can smell Dorothy in there.

[Damaris]

You can smell it when you open the door. You're actually in Kansas. You're not in Vegas anymore. You leave.

[Marlon]

Imagine that. Imagine they did some shit like that. You going to. When you walk out, you in Kansas.

[Damaris]

Elana Bezos. Someone's gonna fig that out, yo.

[Rory]

Nah, he seeing a Harry Potter movie in this would be crazy. That's something I would pay the million dollars for.

[Marlon]

N. Give me. When we first saw Pinky.

[Rory]

Pinky, you the horniest I ever.

[Marlon]

No, no, it ain't even a horny thing. I was just in the Sphere. I want to see Pinky in the Sphere.

[Damaris]

Well, like, by yourself or with a bunch of people?

[Marlon]

No, no, no. By myself.

[Damaris]

Okay. I was going to say, like. Like knee to knee with people while watching that movie.

[Marlon]

Like, just imagine that you're in a room and you just.

[Rory]

Like the sack.

[Damaris]

All right. See, why you.

[Marlon]

Sack.

[Damaris]

That's not even a thing. It's not even a thing.

[Marlon]

I'm sure it's a thing. It ain't my thing but I'm sure some things be out there. Sack to sack I ain't doing that.

[Damaris]

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[Marlon]

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[Damaris]

All right, well, let's get into voicemails.

[Marlon]

You've got mail.

[Damaris]

These are Sponsored by Boost Mobile.com what's up, y'?

[Marlon]

All?

[Caller]

I got a question for the whole crew. How do y' all get over a breakup when it comes especially, like, sooner than you anticipated and you don't understand, for real, like, how you even got there? My girl just broke up with me.

[Rory]

Me.

[Caller]

I'm going through it. I've been going through it for a few weeks. I can't lie. Yeah, she sent me a letter. Read it.

[Damaris]

And, yeah, a letter.

[Caller]

No, it is dead from what she said. So, yeah, curious to hear y' all guys thoughts, like, how y' all get over breakups? How y' all deal with it? Do y', all, like, meet up to talk again, like, on that closure thing thing, or not? Just send a text. Like, how do y' all proceed that want his back? Yeah. Appreciate y'.

[Damaris]

All.

[Caller]

And yeah, looking to hear from what y' all say.

[Rory]

How you trying to get over it? If you talking about if we should meet up or send a text, you ain't trying to get over it. You trying to get your back.

[Damaris]

She sent a letter.

[Marlon]

She.

[Damaris]

If you snail mail words like, I'm not trying to link up with you. Like, if I write out a letter and mail it to you. Yeah, I had to have blocked you everything.

[Marlon]

Yeah, that's closure right there. She took that time to write a letter.

[Rory]

Letter.

[Marlon]

Yeah, that's. That's closure, Famine. It ain't what you meeting up about?

[Damaris]

Or does the letter give you hope? Like, damn, she took all that time to do that.

[Marlon]

Yeah, that's a sick type of dude right there to think like that. Nah, she still want me. She took time to write this letter. Like, she ain't over it, fam. She's done. That woman is done. She don't even want to talk. She don't want to text. She don't even want to give you a chance to respond in real time. Like writing a letter and then walking to the mailbox and sending it off.

[Rory]

Did she seal it with a kiss, though?

[Marlon]

That's a different type of, like, did she spray?

[Rory]

Did she spray it? If it spray. If it smell like her perfume. Like what? Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm trying to. I'm trying to see the vibe.

[Marlon]

She went and bought a stamp.

[Rory]

Stamp's not cheap no more either.

[Marlon]

That's the stamp in a relationship. Like, yo, it is over as soon as this shit gets to you. If you reading this, it's too late. Like, n this conversation. This is it.

[Rory]

Like, well, can y' all give him.

[Damaris]

Some people broke up in World War II, too.

[Marlon]

I had to get over people broke up after Vietnam. Like, you kidding me? A letter? Nah, dog, it's over.

[Damaris]

No, but. All right, you're saying he's sick. If he thinks maybe that brings hope. I think she's sick. If you really over it, just block him and just move the. On. The fact that you wrote a letter to me makes her look like she's a little sick in my room.

[Rory]

No, she wants to give him, like, the reasons why a lot of people write. I know when I used to write letters, it was because I don't want to be interrupted.

[Marlon]

I don't want him to interrupt me.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm saying what I gotta say.

[Marlon]

She wanted to just get her shit off. Read it, sit with it, look at it again, Read it again. Like. But just don't contact me. Like, she's. Shorty is done in my eyes. Like, I don't know. He might be. That. He might be the guy. And then he called us next month and be like, yo, she came back. You know, that just means she just. She wanted to go on vacation for a week with the other, and that was it.

[Damaris]

What do you. What do you do with the letter?

[Marlon]

Oh, you do, like Phil Jackson. No, like Pat Riley made D. Wade do. You put it in a barrel at the end of the season and you burn it. Yeah.

[Damaris]

You take it out one letter in a barrel by yourself.

[Rory]

You gotta watch that burn, too.

[Marlon]

One letter. That's what you do. Burning one letter.

[Damaris]

Because, like, mail these days is just not really like, a crazy thing like that. Yeah, like what? Once you. After you, like, read it in your kitchen, what is your next move?

[Marlon]

I'm burning. Get that out there.

[Damaris]

I'm. Take a magnet and put it on my fridge.

[Marlon]

You want to look at it every day. You want to.

[Damaris]

Till she come back.

[Marlon]

That is crazy.

[Rory]

Till she come back.

[Marlon]

Yeah. Nah. Yeah, it's over.

[Damaris]

Wait, but that puts you in a weird predicament, because, all right, if a girl sends you the long breakup text message, either way, if you're like, she's really over it, you're still going to have a response. I think any human being would have.

[Marlon]

A reply to a text message. Yeah, yeah. But to a letter, I know it's fine. With another letter, you call her. Nah, you bugging. Writing another letter back is crazy because it's almost like you can't, like you can't write another letter and then mail it off and send it to her crib.

[Damaris]

And how you like argue during a breakup. You can't write a letter, put it in the mailbox, and then think to yourself. And another thing. And not only that, now I gotta write a whole nother.

[Marlon]

But if no letter come back, would you send another little accent if she got it, get the last letter. Now we playing a mail game. I got to trust the mailman. Nah, dog, nah. It's over. A girl mail you a letter saying it's over, it is over. Like, don't.

[Rory]

I still want you to fight for me back. Maybe you can get back.

[Marlon]

See, that's what y' all do. Stop the crazy shit. You gonna mail me a letter and then if I don't mail you one back, you gonna be mad cause I ain't fight for you.

[Rory]

I'm not. I didn't, I didn't. I, I. You right. You got it. Fuck it.

[Marlon]

That's not crazy. You know, like, why, why even play that game? Like, why not just call me and then say, what you about to mail me?

[Rory]

Like, no, because I don't want, I don't want you to. Like, that's like I said. I don't want you to interrupt me or try to gaslight me and manipulate me. Nope. I took my time. I wrote all this out. I thought about it. I'm sending it to you. I'm spraying it with this. Ysl. Respond or don't respond or show up at my house.

[Damaris]

I say your return address is on there. I'm just going to get in the car.

[Marlon]

Women, I think you would know where your girl is.

[Damaris]

Women would be sick enough though to send that letter. Like right before a three day weekend national holiday where all post offices are closed for like four days.

[Marlon]

I just told you, they going. She going on vacation with the other guy. It's a holiday. She needs her time. She don't want her phone ringing. She don't want to be interrupted. But then when she come back and the situation fizzled out with the other dude here, she come with another letter.

[Rory]

You don't know. A letter is thought out if you want to go on vacation with another nigga. We all, well, people all know what to do. You call, you start an argument about some dumb. You don't do enough for me. I'm tired of this. I feel neglected. This, this, this, this and that. I'm not happy. Like the is going on. Like I just need then gets so mad. He say some that he can't take back. Boom. I need some space from you. Like I apparently you're not in a good place. Like I can't have a discussion with you if this is where you're going to be. You hang up the phone, you go on vacation with the other y' all took space. Then by the time it's time like he's ready for you to be over the argument. You could come back. But you don't do a letter. A letter is too well thought out.

[Marlon]

Imagine, imagine. Imagine going through that with a girl. She going to vacation another dude and then her thinking that she's going to come back from that vacation and then you still be there waiting for her.

[Rory]

You don't know I'm on vacation. She's not. You don't know she's on vacation.

[Damaris]

What if she sends a postcard from the location?

[Rory]

Well, that would be a dummy and she just wanted to hurt you. She didn't want to get over on some.

[Damaris]

A letter would hurt me regardless. You sent me a letter. I'm hurt. You already succeeded in hurting me.

[Marlon]

Dominican A doctor sending a letter from the vacation from the island is wild. Yo, I'm in Turks and I'm just thinking about all the times I was.

[Damaris]

Hurt, but not even with a message like when Andy Dufresne sent a postcard from where he was at the border. No message. Like she just sent it. No message, just a postcard.

[Marlon]

Yeah, she sent a postcards from where she at. Yeah, that's wild.

[Rory]

Oh, now that's fire. That's a good idea.

[Marlon]

No, it's not. That's how you end up on first 48. Don't do it. Don't do it.

[Damaris]

If I was with a girl on vacation and she was doing that, I be like, we could take separate flights.

[Rory]

Can y' all hear him? Get over her. Lock in. First of all, it's the great lockin what N It's the great lock in, bro.

[Damaris]

You can't laugh, cuz. That's how you tell people to get no, you got one day and then you got to lock in.

[Marlon]

Said you'll lock it. Yeah, lock in with what?

[Rory]

Yo, get out your grind, get in the gym, start working, start. You know what I'm saying?

[Marlon]

Turn this into a Bathroom, Daddy. Yo, tell her the. The meal prep.

[Damaris]

I promise you the same chicken, rice, and broccoli in the same Subway.

[Marlon]

Got no taste buds. He can't smell. He not hungry. He don't want to eat. You telling this to meal breath and to Mar.

[Damaris]

Like, maybe he does have a job. Maybe he goes to gym. She's trying to make his.

[Marlon]

Meal prep.

[Rory]

My G always go hard, bro. Like, lock in. There's something. I guarantee there's something you have been neglecting because there's something we're all neglecting in life. And now that you have open energy, mentally, emotionally, physically, because she's not there anymore. She left your ass. Take that, all of that, and put it into something that you should have been doing anyway, man.

[Damaris]

Go become a postman in her zip code. See, she like letters.

[Marlon]

That's what Rory would do.

[Rory]

White shit.

[Marlon]

Yeah, that's what Rory would take. He would he become a postman.

[Damaris]

And as if go.

[Marlon]

What's his name? I forgot his name, man. Yo, lock in, man. He left him. Oh, we got to hear it.

[Caller]

What's good, y'?

[Marlon]

All?

[Damaris]

I'm a postman now.

[Caller]

This is a continuation of part two. I called last week when my girl broke up with me, saying I was going through it. I'm still going through it. But I guess, in addition.

[Rory]

Stop pausing.

[Damaris]

I just. It was how he said it. Was how he said it.

[Rory]

M. Please. All right.

[Damaris]

I was going through it. Still going through it. I'm still going through it.

[Marlon]

No, I. With, homie. I respect that. That take a different level. He's so vulnerable with. He don't know. He's like, yo, I'm still going through it.

[Rory]

Stop, y'.

[Marlon]

All.

[Rory]

He need to get.

[Damaris]

Cuz, I was waiting. I was waiting for the redemption. Yo, last week, I was going through it.

[Marlon]

You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, my bad. Jo, start that from the top, y'. All.

[Caller]

I guess this is a continuation A Part 2. I called last week when my girl broke up with me, saying I was going through it. I'm still going through it. But I guess, in addition, my question is, how would y' all approach a quote unquote, closure conversation? Cause we gonna have one of those. But, like, she already made her mind up, so, like, I don't really know, like, how to approach this, but I'm gonna be there. So, I mean, if y' all see this before I get there, it'd be great to hear what y' all think. But, yeah, that's where I'm at.

[Rory]

Wait, I feel really bad for him.

[Marlon]

Wait. Cause he said, how do you have a closure conversation? Because I'm gonna be there. What does that mean? Like, he's showing up regardless. Like, it sound like it's going either way. He wanted to go like, no, he.

[Rory]

Said they gonna have one. But he said it sound like she already made her mind up.

[Marlon]

Oh, so she agreed to have a closing conversation.

[Damaris]

I'm curious how that came about.

[Rory]

He asked for one.

[Damaris]

He definitely asked for it.

[Marlon]

Yeah. Damn. So he. Damn. So he already had the. Yeah. Cause this was a couple days ago. He left this, Right.

[Damaris]

That's enough time for another lesson.

[Marlon]

This was today. Oh, so he probably going right now. Now.

[Damaris]

Yeah, as we're recording.

[Marlon]

Damn. You can't hit him right now and see if he email right now.

[Damaris]

See if he could do FaceTime from his email.

[Marlon]

Yeah, email him right now. See if he can FaceTime us from the closure conversation. Yeah, I want. I want. I want to. I want to talk to him and see how he doing, man.

[Damaris]

Like, how did it go in the meantime, though? Like, when have you ever seen a closure conversation and, like, do good for anybody?

[Marlon]

And what he wore to the closure conversation, you know, that put on his. He. He bought a whole new lay. He bought a whole new fit.

[Damaris]

But then you look even crazy if you don't look how you always look now. It's like, what do you don't even.

[Rory]

Look how you always look. You gotta look down. You gotta look bad. Like you gotta have on some stained sweats.

[Damaris]

Would it make your ego feel better?

[Marlon]

Embarrass is crazy.

[Rory]

Nah, you gotta look like you really like.

[Marlon]

Nah, go get a haircut.

[Rory]

Nah, bro.

[Marlon]

Put some on her. You know what I mean? Don't let her see you doing bad.

[Rory]

N. Get a haircut for sure.

[Marlon]

Get a haircut, fresh haircut.

[Rory]

It got to be four days.

[Damaris]

Four days fresh.

[Marlon]

He just got it this morning.

[Rory]

Ah, y' all don't know manipulation.

[Marlon]

No, you don't know manipulation. He got to go in there looking like it's business as usual. Like, I'm all right. I'm outside. I got. Depending on what time can we get this conversation over?

[Rory]

He didn't say why they broke up. Cuz if they broke up, cuz he be cheating. Don't come with no fresh air, cuz.

[Marlon]

Yeah, I'm about to go now.

[Rory]

I'm just reminding it. Or that every time you got that haircut, you went and left the house and on me. So, like, don't do that.

[Marlon]

So now what you think I'm about to do after we finish this conversation, either you coming with me, or I'm going somewhere else, so that's life.

[Damaris]

Or you got to be like, coming.

[Marlon]

With me, you coming home with me, or we going to leave here, it's done, and I'mma go on about my business.

[Rory]

That sounds like a ultimatum. Ultimatum.

[Marlon]

It is ultimatum. It's a closing conversation. We're closing the con. This is it. This is the last conversation we're gonna have. What are we doing? You leaving with me or am I going about my business?

[Rory]

That's.

[Marlon]

I'll let you decide.

[Damaris]

Clearly, he asked for it. But I feel like you just gotta show up as your best show up. Late text are like, damn, it's completely slipped my mind. I got something else going on. But I'll stop by real quick, be like, yo, all right, so this shit is over, right? I gotta hurry up. Cause she waiting in the car. And then leave. Just for your own. Because there's. What is a closure conversation that's ever worked?

[Marlon]

Yeah. You know, sometimes.

[Damaris]

Unless you're trying to fuck one more time and be like, it's done. Like, we tried this. It didn't work out. But if. If somebody was really hurt and was like, we're done. What is the point of a closure? What are we closing?

[Marlon]

Yeah, we don't know words.

[Damaris]

Have we said that where you're gonna find closure?

[Marlon]

We don't know why they broke up or why they going through whatever they going through. So we don't know the context. Like Damaris said, if he cheated, then I can understand why he wants to close the conversation. He probably want that last opportunity to be like, yo, I was fucked up. I was. You know, whatever, whatever.

[Rory]

Maybe he neglected her. There's. He did something because he trying to get his back.

[Damaris]

But I'm saying that's the way he's talking. He wants his girl back. Close to the conversation.

[Marlon]

Yeah, but sometimes, you know, guys just. Not that he did something, like, you know, he. Not that he did something wrong. Maybe he wasn't doing something. And she's like, you know, feeling like, oh, he's not really present in our relationship.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Marlon]

Maybe he's working too much. So. Not that he did something wrong. It may be his fault. Why the relationship kind of fizzled out.

[Rory]

That's right. That's what I meant. Yes.

[Marlon]

But if that's the case, then I can understand the closure conversation. Cause you want to express that. Like, yo, listen. Like, you know, it's just work and things like that. But I want to make this work as well. So you Know, I can understand that. But if it's, you know, she's just over it, then sometimes you gotta just bite that bullet, man.

[Rory]

If she's just over it. Okay, Go into the closure conversation with this. Go into the closure conversation thinking and that it's already over. Fight for your relationship, but prepare yourself mentally that it's already over and try to get, first of all, get all of your points that you want to make. Get them like on a piece of paper in your notes or something and go over them. Because when you're emotional and you're in.

[Marlon]

An emotionally charged conversation with your girl with notes is crazy. Like. And another thing you don't gotta check.

[Damaris]

Hold on. I had a pinned. I can't find it.

[Rory]

Kind of how we do pre production. Like we might not look at the.

[Marlon]

Numbers.

[Rory]

But we know what we want to talk about when we going into this.

[Damaris]

Like having an agenda from chat GBT is.

[Marlon]

Yeah, because how do I get my bitch back?

[Rory]

You get upset because when you're emotional and you're in an emotional state when somebody's saying something to you like you're not thinking straight. Like so already. That's why I practice my arguments in the shower. So I know I already rehearsed this.

[Marlon]

So when you say that you are beyond crazy, you're like on another level now.

[Rory]

No, but it's because I want to know what the fuck I'm going to say when you try. I don't want you to catch. Catch me off guard.

[Marlon]

All right. So when you having these conversations about how do you think the conversation go while you in the shower? Do you respond to yourself?

[Rory]

Yeah, but.

[Marlon]

Oh, you're crazy. Like, you're really like whatever, Mom, I.

[Rory]

Don'T think that that's.

[Damaris]

This is why you can't. Cuz I went to chat GBT of how to get your your back and they said, do you want me to help you draft an actual message to her and balance apology, accountability and leaving the door open? Some of us are getting messages from chat GBT and not the people we talking to. That's sick.

[Marlon]

That's a fact.

[Rory]

I already know.

[Damaris]

But I mean I feel like there is no point. Closure to me is what that young lady did. She sent a letter. This is closure. That's closure. Yeah. You going to. This is pointless. Closure for you would be sending a letter back. Of all the you want to get off your chest. Hey, I take accountability here. Wish this could have worked better here. And sending a letter back. She set the precedent. If she's over this shit what is a closure conversation gonna.

[Marlon]

No, I think, I think it's a two the said too though. Like sometimes that's the closure and you know, it is what it is. Just leave it at that.

[Damaris]

Send that girl lock in.

[Marlon]

Lock in. Focus on yourself, man.

[Damaris]

If you want to have closure. Closure comes from within, not from the other person. She already set. Set the tone. Here's a letter. Write a letter back with all the. That you want to get off and move on.

[Marlon]

I wouldn't even do that.

[Rory]

He don't want to move on.

[Damaris]

I'm saying he doesn't even. He could just move the on like he doesn't need to do either. But I'm saying that's the only. No one's going to a closure conversation to get closure. They're going to get their. Their back. So let's call it what it is. He's not going to a closure conversation. She already had a closure conversation. You need to word that correctly. Sir.

[Rory]

If you listen.

[Damaris]

You're trying to get your back.

[Rory]

If listen, sir.

[Damaris]

Which I get it. I respect if you.

[Rory]

If you like that in the bedroom. Use what you got to get what you want. Use that to manipulate. That's all I'm saying.

[Damaris]

So he's just pull his dick out when he walks in, right?

[Rory]

Don't pull your dick out out.

[Damaris]

You don't pull it out.

[Rory]

But you know, like he gotta. You gotta.

[Damaris]

This woman sent him a letter.

[Rory]

That's fine. That means she care. She really loved him. You don't send no letter to no you ain't really love.

[Damaris]

So because she sends a letter, made it very clear that she is completely over it. He should try to sleep with her and that will no continue a healthy relationship.

[Marlon]

I don't.

[Rory]

I don't think she's not completely over him. That like the. Between the letter and the. And the allowing for a closure conversation. She's not completely. Completely open over.

[Damaris]

You can be in your situation and still care for somebody. That takes time to get over somebody.

[Rory]

That's fine. But you didn't. You're not sending no letter. And a lot on top of the letter. Having a closure conversation with someone you're not open to still having some type of something with that's not she.

[Marlon]

I got so many questions for homie. Like I got so many things I need.

[Rory]

I want to know. I want to know why they broke up.

[Damaris]

I think her opening the door to meet and have a closure conversation means there's some hope. But I don't think he should hold on to that hope. Hope is dangerous. Dangerous. All right, so she might be a kind person. Is like, all right, what do you need to say? Because this is done.

[Marlon]

Hopefully he.

[Damaris]

So you can leave me the alone.

[Marlon]

If he does respond, can we want to take a. Take a. A pot on. On why she. She ended things. You think it was her fault or his fault? Like, you think she just, like, completely over. She met somebody new and that was it.

[Rory]

Being a bad boyfriend.

[Damaris]

Not everything has to do with somebody meeting somebody new.

[Marlon]

I'm not saying. I'm just saying in this situation.

[Damaris]

I feel like he wasn't very present in this relationship. And she stuck with him for a while. She fought, and he continued with the same patterns, and she finally just got fed up.

[Marlon]

I feel like she was with somebody before him. He's the rebound, and I feel like she wants to sit to work out with the other guy because that's who she still really loves. So that she just kind of called it quits.

[Damaris]

Does the rebound get a letter, though? No.

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Rory]

No.

[Damaris]

Gets a.

[Marlon]

The rebound gets a letter.

[Damaris]

A letter?

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Rory]

The rebound does not get no letter.

[Damaris]

I've been a rebound and I've. I got the. Hey, this was fun. I'm trying to work down.

[Marlon]

He got a letter.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yo, y' all be getting letters?

[Marlon]

Well, no, I've never got.

[Damaris]

Oh, high school.

[Marlon]

High school. Yeah.

[Damaris]

That's cuz. Letters was the only thing available. Josh.

[Marlon]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I couldn't. I ain't have no minutes. Laugh.

[Damaris]

He talk about passing notes in class.

[Marlon]

Yo, Josh is crazy. He said, not high school. What?

[Damaris]

Yeah, okay. I've gotten a note in high school, too. That was.

[Marlon]

The last time I got a letter was in high school. High school. Oh, my God. Yeah, but I'm thinking it was something like that. I think that she, you know, she had something before she met him, and she kind of wants to, you know, see if she could work that out. I think that's. Cause he sound like he's completely caught off guard. Heartbroken. Like, he don't. He seemed like things were okay, and it just kind of just like he.

[Damaris]

Thought they were okay, but he wasn't really present. He was in the same pattern.

[Rory]

See, that's.

[Damaris]

Yo, she was cool.

[Marlon]

Nah, he thought it was okay, but she didn't want to tell him what it really was. Cause she still had feelings for dude before. And then he kind of came back. He probably just came home, did a little bit or something.

[Rory]

Imagination.

[Marlon]

I'm just saying we throwing. We just thinking anything at this. We don't know. So we. I'm just thinking of with anything, but from his tone, he don't sound like he did something. He sounds like he's like, yo, man, like, I'm still fucked up. Like, he sound like this shit, like, pulled the rug from up on him, like he wasn't expecting it to be over. So that's what I'm saying. It gotta be something on her end.

[Rory]

Okay, well, sir, going into the closure conversation. Lock in, lock in. Know what you want to say. Know what you want to say. Shut the fuck up, Ma. Know what you want to say. And let us know how it it goes. Marlon, I'm laughing at you. I know what it's like. I know what it's like sleeping with a broken heart. Yo, I know. I know what that feel like.

[Damaris]

So I just feel like he's not prepared.

[Marlon]

You're a baby, D. I know what it's like sleeping with a broken heart.

[Damaris]

I love that song.

[Marlon]

Finish that poem, baby. I know what it's like sleeping with a broken heart. I thought it was heartburn. I thought it was the apostle, Ma. All right, I'm sorry, man.

[Rory]

Thank you.

[Marlon]

Hopefully we can speak to this dude, though, because I do want to. I do want to hear why they. Why it ended, why they broke up.

[Damaris]

I'm not saying he owes us a lot of explanation, but I don't think he's prepped because he didn't give us much. All he said was, nah, I'm still. I'm still.

[Marlon]

Nah. He can't even think I know that. He can't think. He ain't wash his ass. He in there sheets thinking he just fucked up.

[Rory]

Tears and sweat.

[Damaris]

Tears. Sweat was in the sink.

[Marlon]

He just fucked up pizza boxes. Yeah, he's piling up on the. It's just shit everywhere.

[Damaris]

He has to. To the Maris's point, has to come with an agenda, though. Because if you walk in just to mope and like, you got nothing to say, just like, what's the problem? She's going to look at you even worse. She's going to look at you like. Like an annoyance, like. All right, you wanted to close your conversation for what? What? Come on, say something.

[Marlon]

Nah, that energy is crazy.

[Rory]

No, that.

[Marlon]

Tell him you wanted to close your conversation for what? Say something.

[Damaris]

You don't think people do the closure conversation just to be next to that person for a second and too, for sure.

[Marlon]

But I'm saying for. For him to walk in the girl be like, yo, so what you wanted to talk about, like, hurry up. I mean, if you come, like, get in my Bag.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah.

[Marlon]

Like at that point it's like, yo, hold up. You ain't even gonna hold you like, yeah, like you ain't even that cute. Like, you know, like you get it to that point. Yeah, like, yo, honestly, you ain't even that cute. Like.

[Damaris]

And first of all, your handwriting is trash.

[Marlon]

I couldn't even.

[Damaris]

I couldn't even read half the letter you said.

[Marlon]

You gotta start breaking her down at the table. Like your shoes is trash. I've been meaning to tell you to throw those out like.

[Damaris]

Liberty Stamp. Really? That's what we're doing still?

[Marlon]

Get out of here. Like you gotta.

[Rory]

All right, so if you're gonna take mall advice. Walking in, fly as new, fresh haircut. You gotta walk in like, I don't know what you want, but we're not broken up, bro. We're not broken up. Whatever we're going through, we're gonna work it out, but we're not breaking up.

[Marlon]

And put on.

[Rory]

I hear everything that you said and I'm sorry that I've neglected to address those issues before to the point where it got this bad. But we're not breaking up, bro. So you can hang that up. So where do we move on from here?

[Marlon]

That's what he should say.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Marlon]

Nah, then the cops is coming now.

[Damaris]

But what if he walks in? He went to the post office first and got a return to sender stamp on her letter and showed up with it.

[Marlon]

But he didn't even read it.

[Damaris]

Yeah, return to sender.

[Marlon]

I would do that. I would do that. I ain't even read. Listen, I don't know what, I don't know what this, this was supposed to be, but I didn't read that.

[Damaris]

Giving homie at the post office $5 so you could use the return to sender stamp.

[Marlon]

I didn't read that. But yeah, I do want to talk to him, Josh. So send him an email and hopefully we could he.

[Damaris]

He mid closure combo right now.

[Marlon]

Yeah, he might be.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah, he closure at 3:40 on a Monday is kind of crazy though.

[Marlon]

Yeah, yeah, he might be. And he might not even be there yet. Cause she probably worked. So it's gonna be an after work thing.

[Rory]

Oh, they probably both at work. Stomach bubbling. When you gotta have that type of conversation. When you get. Or somebody texts you, we need to talk and you at work.

[Marlon]

No, we talking right now, bruh. Yeah, fuck all this work. We talking right now. Matter of fact, I'm off. I'm done.

[Rory]

I've definitely gotten a we need to talk like text while we were recording and my ass, my stomach was in my ass the whole whole time.

[Marlon]

What you did, Baby D. Man.

[Rory]

Wrap this up.

[Marlon]

What you did though it don't matter.

[Rory]

It don't matter don't matter ain't leave.

[Marlon]

It don't matter ain't leave Baby D. Huh? Right there.

[Damaris]

Memories don't live like people do.

[Marlon]

Yeah yo, I just, I just want to read the marriage group chat one time. I probably be terrified one time.

[Rory]

Shout out to Cardi, shout out to Cardi B. Shout out to Jay Electronics.

[Marlon]

Monica like, yo, listen man, we'll talk to y' all soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that he's just ginger.

[Damaris]

Peace. No worry about.

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