Episode 440 | Spread Em

Summary

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New Rory & MAL – Episode 440 | Spread Em

Release Date: January 9, 2026
Hosts: Rory & Mal
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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Episode Overview

In this lively and wide-ranging episode of New Rory & MAL, Rory and Mal ring in the first full podcast week of the year by sharing new stories, jokes, debates, and some signature “random hot takes no one asked for.” The duo dives deep into music industry rumors, especially the anticipation surrounding Bruno Mars's new release, industry mechanics, direct-to-consumer music sales, viral marketing in the digital age, SNL’s behind-the-scenes drama, rap “GOAT” debates, the NFL playoff “spread em” picks, and the strange joys of online review culture. The tone is playful and irreverent, loaded with sharp banter, authentic opinions, and plenty of side tangents.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Aging, Internet Takes & Bruno Mars Album Rumors

(02:23–14:38)

• Rory and Mal joke about the sounds made from aging and Mal stirring up the Internet within the first week of 2026 with a “hot” album drop prediction.
• Heavy speculation about Bruno Mars dropping a new surprise album – “The Romantic” (Feb. 27), with a single dropping that day.
• Mal shares, “My only issue with Bruno Mars has always been what does Bruno Mars sound like? …he always leans to a sound we’ve already seen or heard from before.” [08:54]
• They discuss Bruno’s transformative, derivative style, his new cover art giving Jimi Hendrix vibes, and the difficulty of pinning down his "real" musical identity.
• Bruno’s tour and collaborators (Anderson .Paak as DJ Peewee, Leon Thomas, Victoria Monét) spark excitement.

2. Music Biz: Features, Sound & Artist Identity

(14:38–18:37)

• Speculation on features for Bruno’s album (Leon Thomas, possible Taylor Swift cameo, etc.), with doubts about rumors making it to release without leaks.
• Rory: “I would like to hear the production get a little muddier, that’s all.” [11:03]
• Discussion of Bruno’s malleability. Rory dubs him “the first AI artist,” sparking jokes about Bruno as a musical chameleon: “Once Bruno Mars shakes your hand, he takes your talent.” [17:29]

3. Direct-to-Consumer Music: LaRussell, Kyrie, and the DIY Model

(18:49–23:33)

• Praise for independent artists like LaRussell, who launched a campaign to sell 100k album units directly to fans at any price via EVEN (with Kyrie Irving donating $11k).
• Reflecting on the momentum of artists controlling their rollout and revenue, referencing Nipsey Hussle as a pioneer.
• Mike Jones’s famed phone number resurfaces via social media, with funny anecdotes about group photos and his cultural legacy.

4. Hip-Hop Stats: Andre 3000 vs Biggie, Group vs Solo GOATs

(44:56–58:24)

• Correction on last episode’s debate: a listener shared stats showing Biggie had more rap verses than Andre 3000. Rory concedes, but the pair challenge whether mere stats can decide artistic legacy (“stats take out context… stats are dumb!” [50:14]).
• Deeper question: Can an MC be considered a GOAT without a solo rap album? (Mall: “If we’re going to say the top rappers… you have to have a solo rap album. You can’t be in the GOAT conversation in sports without championships, without rings.” [51:58])
• They compare group vs solo legacy: Wu-Tang versus Outkast, the effect of solo success on group ranking. The “entities vs group” debate ensues.
• Big Boi’s underrated status vs 3 Stacks’ overratedness in public discourse.

5. NFL Playoffs & Spread ‘Em Picks: Betting Talk

(67:40–71:47)

• “It’s playoff football time. … I only care about the spread!” [67:45]
• They make point spread predictions for playoff games (Patriots/Chargers, Bills/Jags, Eagles/49ers, etc.) in a mock-competitive “Spread ‘Em” segment, with listener involvement for a humorous losing punishment.

6. Viral Marketing, Food Fads & Internet Fools

(75:20–82:07)

• Discussion on TikTok’s ability to drive real-world crowds to AI-invented events (fake New Year’s fireworks, ramen “pop-up” of instant noodles for $45 a bowl), and the sheep-like behavior of “influencers.”
• The addictive power of viral food videos, with both hosts admitting to falling for food fads themselves (“It’s pretty easy to get me on a YouTube short for a restaurant…” [80:13]).

7. Yelp Clownery: Restaurants Clapping Back

(82:09–87:00)

• Hilarious segment about a New Jersey Italian restaurant owner who viciously insults negative Yelp reviewers (calling them “a blowjob,” “a cuck,” and referencing inches of genitalia).
• Mal: “To me, that makes me want to go to that restaurant.” [87:00]
• They liken it to beloved rude service at Caribbean/West Indian restaurants – attitude is a sign the food’s fire.

8. SNL Drama: Chris Redd, Kenan Thompson & Unsolved Knockouts

(31:20–44:55)

• An engrossing breakdown of SNL’s Chris Redd getting knocked out after dating Kenan Thompson’s ex-wife – recapping his recent confession, the pill addiction backstory, violation of “friend code,” and open questions about relational boundaries.
• Mall on dating friend’s ex-wife: "If this is somebody I was married to or somebody that I have a family with… you can't do that. There's too many women out here to do that." [37:38]
• They probe the psychology and etiquette of dating within close circles, referencing SNL’s wild culture through the decades.

9. Absolute Tangents & Humorous Callbacks

• Tinder profile hi-jinks, swapping identities, and concocting fake app bios for fun. [88:22–91:12]
• The joys and pitfalls of responding to Internet comments—debating responding like a savage restaurant owner.
• Nicknames, voice icons in rap (Jay, DMX, Scarface, T.I.), and the “most distinct voices” in hip-hop history. [58:53–60:44]
• Brief TV/streaming recs: Emily in Paris’s sixth season, Paradise on Hulu, the new “Chad Powers” series. [94:47–97:34]
• Brief shout-outs to the ASAP Rocky single and upcoming drops from French Montana, Chief Keef, IDK/Pusha T.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Bruno Mars’s Chameleon Persona:

“He's such a great artist, but it's almost hard to pinpoint what is Bruno Mars sound? What is his sound?”
— Mall [09:32]

On Features and The Industry:

“Once Bruno Mars shakes your hand, he takes your talent.”
— Mall [17:29]

On Direct-to-Consumer Music:

“Anytime artists do this and do it in a very unique way. I'm always here to support. … What LaRussell is doing with his campaign is one of the coolest things I’ve seen in a while.”
— Rory [19:49, 21:23]

On The Stats Debate:

“Stats are dumb. ...They take out context of so many f*cking things – like, the most shark attacks are at the beach. Yeah!”
— Rory [50:11]

On Group vs Solo Artists’ “GOAT” Status:

“You have to have a solo rap album. You can't be in the goat conversation in sports without championships, without rings.”
— Mall [51:58]

On Respect for Friends’ Exes:

“If this is somebody I was married to or somebody that I have a family with ...you can't do that. There's too many women out here to do that.”
— Mall [37:38]

On Yelp Reviews Gone Wild:

“Anyone who gives the restaurant two stars is a blowjob.”
— NJ Restaurant Owner (read by Rory) [82:53]

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Timestamps For Important Segments

| Segment/Topic | Start | End | |----------------------------------|-----------|----------| | Aging, Noises, Internet Takes | 02:23 | 03:43 | | Bruno Mars Album Rumors | 03:43 | 14:38 | | Music Biz: Sound & Features | 14:38 | 18:37 | | Direct-to-Consumer, LaRussell | 18:49 | 23:33 | | SNL Drama: Redd/Thompson | 31:20 | 44:55 | | Rap Stats/GOAT Debates | 44:56 | 58:24 | | Distinct Rap Voices | 58:53 | 60:44 | | NFL Spread ‘Em Segment | 67:40 | 71:47 | | Viral Food/Restaurant Fads | 75:20 | 82:07 | | Yelp Clownery | 82:09 | 87:00 |

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Language & Tone

• Casual, humorous, often irreverent, with insider references and running gags.
• Frequent use of hip-hop and podcasting lingo. They directly engage each other's opinions, riff, and needle each other; tangents are part of the show’s style.
• No shortage of self-deprecation and meta-commentary about the podcasting process or Internet/fandom culture.

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Summary Takeaway

Spread Em is quintessential New Rory & MAL, blending music industry talk, rap culture commentary, sports betting, pop culture reaction, and messy internet phenomena with their characteristic wit and chemistry. The episode’s anchor is their spirited, critical-but-playful approach: they hype, clown, and dissect trends—be it predicting Bruno Mars’s next move, questioning the rules of artistic greatness, or just marveling at the drama in food reviews and SNL greenrooms. Listeners get an entertaining, unfiltered window into both hip-hop’s present and the madcap state of the digital culture at large.

Transcript

[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Mall]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

No worry about a bigger.

[Rory]

Excuse me, rolling start. You just making noise. I feel like I was getting to that age where you're just gonna Start making noises.

[Mall]

Oh, I do that a lot. I'm that person. Like, I just. I just. In the middle of conversation, you know, My favorite thing to do now is, like, when I'm having conversation with people, like, I'll just blurt out random lines from, like, some of my favorite movies.

[Rory]

I think that's what that.

[Mall]

No, I don't like, it's like. No, I know I'm. I can control it. I know what I'm about to do. I think, Tourette, you can't control what you're about to do.

[Rory]

Yeah. Once when I got to, like, college, I want to say is when I started to realize my dad was getting old. Because when it would be quiet and it would just be us sitting there, I could, like, just hear noises coming from his body. But I'm like, oh, you getting that old now. Like, I could hear your stomach from all the way over.

[Mall]

You don't want to talk to nobody.

[Rory]

You want to say things, you say things.

[Mall]

Yeah. You just want to say things.

[Rory]

Like, I'm like, you're making noises.

[Mall]

Do you not realize that sometimes you gotta make noises? It's good to make noises.

[Rory]

End of the first pod week of the year.

[Mall]

Yes.

[Rory]

And you've. You've already stirred up the entire Internet within the first 24 hours.

[Mall]

What did I. Yo, listen, man. You got it. You're like my Internet liaison because, you know, I don't know what's going on.

[Rory]

I used to be.

[Mall]

Well, yeah, now. Now I probably know more about what's going on.

[Rory]

Can you let me know?

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah, I might.

[Rory]

I might come out that you was talking about.

[Mall]

Yeah, I might have to go to let you know what's happening out there, man. But.

[Rory]

Well, here's the thing. I don't even need to be on the Internet like that to get text messages from people about your takes on the pod. So our first episode of the week, you had mentioned that Friday, by the time that people are listening to this now, we will have our answer. You say that a album that very much anticipated will be dropping at midnight Thursday, January 8th. That is January 9th. Even on the New Music Friday Twitter pages, they got Bruno Mars. But before that, they have rumored surprise album from Mall.

[Mall]

From mall. My name is nowhere on that, man. Don't put me on.

[Rory]

It's a number one rumored surprise.

[Mall]

Yeah. I mean, if it does drop, which I believe it will, it will be, you know, it should be number one.

[Rory]

Okay. Do you have a speech prepared? If it doesn't, like, how should we go about this? If in Fact this person doesn't drop it just to spite you.

[Mall]

Well, then that'll be my thing.

[Rory]

That happened on Christmas.

[Mall]

Yeah, that'll be.

[Rory]

You said it was sample clearance. I thought it was mall clearance.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah, that'll. That'll be. That'll be an excuse if the album. Well, the good thing is if. If the. If you're listening to this, you already know the answer to if the album dropped or not. So I'm either right or wrong.

[Rory]

Okay. If you end up being wrong, which is fine. We're all wrong pretty often, especially in podcasting. Are you nervous to give takes anymore?

[Mall]

No, my sources are pretty. Are pretty solid, pretty good. And it's not, you know, I'm not trying to step on anybody's rollout or anything like that, but if it's the.

[Rory]

Person I think it is, I don't think there's another human being on earth that could step on their rollout.

[Mall]

Well. Well, if they want it to be a surprise drop and just like, you know, then.

[Rory]

But even then, like, it's still one of the biggest artists like that still. Still wouldn't matter that a podcaster said, I heard this coming out.

[Mall]

Like, it's not going to disrupt it. Anything like that.

[Rory]

It's not like Rolling Stone will be like Peral's predictions.

[Mall]

Yeah. Or they might actually.

[Rory]

They might.

[Mall]

Yeah, they might. They might. They might give me that credit.

[Rory]

Or they'll give credit to somebody else.

[Mall]

Yeah. Which is fine. Which is fine. Either way, I want them. If the. If we do get the album. If we did get the album, obviously we're recording this Thursday afternoon. Hopefully it's everything we expected and anticipated and wanted it to be.

[Rory]

Yeah. I will be staying up at midnight. But here's the thing. Who knows if it'll drop at midnight? Because we have seen other artists like. I like that. That Tyler, his last two drops, I believe he did it like 6:00am Yeah, I think he did it on Monday morning. I'm not saying midnight is going to be knowing this artist. I don't know if 1159, it's not like Y2K like this drop at 3am I know. Yeah. But I mean, I hope so. I know. If it's who we think it is. I know Baby D is super excited. Who's not with us today? She had to have emergency surgery, but she is doing great. She's doing amazing. I spoke to her. She said she loves you guys, which I didn't really believe her when she said it, but, you know, meds.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But she says she loves you guys. She'll be back soon, but. Yeah, she had a little scare, but she's good.

[Mall]

Yes. Prayers for Baby D. It's fun to.

[Rory]

Talk to somebody on FaceTime when. When they're. When they're on the fence.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like they're just being morphined up, just saying whatever to him.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So, yeah, it was good to catch up with her. She's doing okay. Hopefully she will be back soon.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And if it's. If it's the album we think it is, I mean, at least she could be, you know, in bed rest with that album. Yeah, she probably wouldn't even come to the show anyways after. She'd still be listening.

[Mall]

Might have to take the cameras to the. To the. To Baby D headquarters.

[Rory]

I wouldn't be mad at that and.

[Mall]

Kick it with her just to check on her, but prayers to Baby D. Get well soon. We'll see you when you are healthy and ready to get back to business. Speaking of business, we're back. Sponsored by Boost Mobile. Unlimited talk, text and data.

[Rory]

That is a fact.

[Mall]

Data, Data. Data.

[Rory]

There were some people that were.

[Mall]

Is it data or data?

[Rory]

I say data. Data.

[Mall]

No, is it data? If I'm from like the New England area?

[Rory]

I think it depends what, like in this. Where in the sentence I'm saying it. If it would be data.

[Mall]

Unlimited talk, text and data.

[Rory]

Data. Yeah, data.

[Mall]

It's not data. I think it's data. If you're from like New England. Gotta put the data. Data, Data, Data, data.

[Rory]

What do they say in goodwill hunting?

[Mall]

Data, probably.

[Rory]

All right, then that's how they say.

[Mall]

Yeah, then that's. That's whatever, Matt.

[Rory]

And be British. Data is more American. Well, New England is more British, so I could see that. All right.

[Mall]

Okay. Yeah. Told you was onto something there. Yeah, New England.

[Rory]

There were some people that were saying that maybe you were trying to announce the Bruno Mars album.

[Mall]

That's exactly the album that I was trying to announce, people.

[Rory]

Yes, that's anticipated, probably.

[Mall]

We love Bruno Mars.

[Rory]

We are getting new music today from Bruno Mars. We haven't heard it yet, of course.

[Mall]

Recording probably going to be some of the most perfect music we've ever heard in our life. Once again.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Mall]

Such perfect, perfect music from Bruno Mars.

[Rory]

The album is called the romantic coming February 27th. But we do get a single today. He put out. I'm not sure. I assume this is the album cover because it says romantic and not the single cover. Unless the single is also called that. But you had brought something up off mic with the visual of where we think we're going with which Halloween character he is.

[Mall]

Listen, my only issue with Bruno Mars has always been what does Bruno Mars sound like? Because he's such. He's one of those artists that can, you know, pull inspiration and sounds from so many legendary art, which is a, as you know, Rory, a talent in itself to be able to do that. We love that. But even looking at this cover, this artwork, I don't know if this is Jimi Hendrix or John Leguizamo. Like, Bruno, I wanna know what Bruno looks like. I wanna know what Bruno Mars sounds like. Like, that's my only. Like, he's such a great artist, but it's almost hard to pinpoint what is Bruno Mars sound? What is his sound?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

And that's my only issue. Bruno, he's a great artist. He's talented. I'm not taking nothing away from Bruno Mars, but my only issue has always been he always kinda like leans to a, you know, sound or style of sound or artists that we've already seen or heard from before.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

And it's like, while that's amazing for artists to be able to do that, I want to know what Bruno Mars sounds and looks like.

[Rory]

Well, for those that are just listening on audio and haven't seen the romantic cover that Bruno dropped, it's. It's given Jimi Hendrix. It's very Jimmy. It's Jimmy. But I don't know. Do we think that means it's going to be a Jimmy sound? My prediction, before I was actually told Baby D about this, I thought he was going to go like the Freddie Mercury route for this album.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

But now that I see this cover, I'm with you. Is this going to be his version of 70 psychedelic rock pop? He just takes the sound, he just makes it up.

[Mall]

He's amazing. He's an amazing artist.

[Rory]

Do we think we get that from him?

[Mall]

Yeah, I'm not listen. Anything you say right now.

[Rory]

Yes, I saw this very popular D Miles is on the project. So that already warms my heart that the production is going to be great. I saw that James is writing on it. All my favorite people are writing on and producing on the project.

[Mall]

So when has Bruno Mars's production not been great?

[Rory]

That's been too good.

[Mall]

This is exactly. It's been perfect. Every time we hear him, it's perfect. So that's what I'm saying. He's an amazing artist, but it's like, if somebody would say, yo, what does Bruno Mars sound like? What would you say?

[Rory]

How would you answer that? I Would like to hear the production get a little muddier, that's all.

[Mall]

Yeah, but I just don't know what I would say. Like, Bruno Mars, like, yo, he sounds. You know, this is his sound. It's like I just start playing all of the legends.

[Rory]

I mean, it was. It's Bruno we haven't heard from a while. It was a very confident and precise rollout. We get a single the day of announcement. We get the album date, a pre Save link, and we get the tour date all in one day. Like, this is a very much put together. He said, look, and I love that he's starting in Vegas where he owes the most money.

[Mall]

He owes money in Vegas?

[Rory]

What?

[Mall]

For real? Why?

[Rory]

Listen, man, when you have. When you have habits and then you mix those with other habits.

[Mall]

So you just talking. You talk. I thought you were talking.

[Rory]

No, that's a bit. That's a big rumor that he don't.

[Mall]

Let's not give him.

[Rory]

We thought he was going to have to do a residency there for a while to pay off some debt. But the romantic tour is definitely hitting a city near. Near you. It's all over the world. It also has Anderson Paak as DJ Peewee, Leon Thomas Ray, and Victoria Monet. That's. I mean, that's. That's a nice. I'm getting there. When doors open.

[Mall]

Is this a tour?

[Rory]

Yeah, full tour.

[Mall]

Wow.

[Rory]

Lot. A lot of dates.

[Mall]

Victoria Monet, Leon Thomas Ray, and Anderson Pack.

[Rory]

Anderson pack as dj DJ Peewee. Yeah. So I assume he'll probably bring people out. I'm sure.

[Mall]

All right, Bruno, you got me. I'm going.

[Rory]

Do it. I'm going. When the doors open. Look at that lineup. That's insane.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You know, I wish. I would say. I wish Leon would sit down for a second, but he has been putting out. He put out two projects while he was on the road, so, I mean, Leon proves that he can put out great music. Leon's just been touring for three years straight.

[Mall]

Yeah. But Leon is, You know, he's waited a long time to have this opportunity.

[Rory]

Yeah. I love that he'll do stadiums.

[Mall]

Incredible.

[Rory]

So that'll be cool for him as well. And, you know, Victoria will be great in a stadium.

[Mall]

Oh, her stage show is amazing.

[Rory]

But yeah, that MetLife one oof. In the dog days of summer, too.

[Mall]

August 21st.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Hopefully it's not thunderstorming. Just like, you know, anytime we want to go to when Chris was here, y' all had to wait in the concession by the concession stands until the thunderstorm finished.

[Rory]

I might I might just stand at that. Be better effect with Bruno. I'm standing in the rain like Bruno on the thunderstorm.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

That.

[Mall]

That is a Bruno Mars thing for sure.

[Rory]

It's just tough. It's tough with the cocaine, though, when it rains because it's kind of waste of money. You take the baggie out, the raindrop hit.

[Mall]

Who's doing cocaine?

[Rory]

You at a Bruno show?

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mall]

What do they sell at the concession stand next to the. You know, a guy buy the VIP gold package.

[Rory]

That's his meet and greet package.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

You get to do a bump with him.

[Mall]

Oh, my God. Don't put that on Bruno, man.

[Rory]

I. I did not put anything on Bruno.

[Mall]

It's his look. It's his aesthetic. He has a very coke aesthetic. He does.

[Rory]

Or maybe this is the LSD album. Maybe I'll wear the bandana and put the little LSD patch in and sweat it out.

[Mall]

All jokes aside, I am looking forward to the music, though. I mean, Bruno Mars, every time he gives us the album, it's incredible music. Like we always say, it's perf. Very, you know, pays attention to the details of everything. He's a true artist in every sense of the word. I just, again, my only pushback is I don't know what I could identify his particular sound as. What does Bruno Mars sound like? What does he look like? It's kind of like, you know, just a pull from different eras. And maybe that's his homage to, you know, the legends before him. And maybe that's what he wants to do as an artist is always pay respects to the guys that, you know or the artists that he pulled inspiration from. Either way, I'm sure this album is going to be incredible. The tour sounds like it's going to be incredible. So shout out to Bruno Mars.

[Rory]

Do you think there'll be any features on. On this Bruno album?

[Mall]

Oh, yeah, for sure. I think so.

[Rory]

I mean, he had the number one. Well, I think number one.

[Mall]

I can see Leon having a record on there.

[Rory]

I would love that.

[Mall]

I see him and Leon have record.

[Rory]

I would love to. If Leon and Bruno did something together, that would be incredible. Already had the number one with Lady Gaga. Correct me if I'm wrong. I think it went number one. Um, he did the swap with Sexy Red and we already got that. That was, you know, throwaway records from his west side Story album. So I'm just curious what direction he goes feature wise.

[Mall]

I think it's a Leon Thomas feature on there. Um, do you think we'll Ever get a.

[Rory]

Do we have a Taylor Swift and Bruno Mars record? Does that exist? Sorry, Swifties.

[Mall]

I don't. I mean it should, but I don't think so. I think we would know about it. Two of the biggest stars in the. In the world. We would know.

[Rory]

You'd be surprised about certain white pop stuff that you.

[Mall]

Would know if Bruno and Taylor Swift had had a song together.

[Rory]

Okay. I could see a Bruno and Taylor.

[Mall]

Record on this album.

[Rory]

Yeah, she's been kind of quiet. She's celebrating. What is it, 20 years? Like she's been chilling just as she's a football wife right now. Like I could see her just trying to get. Get a one off with one of the biggest artists in the world. Like, yeah, this is good. Not that Taylor ever needs to stay relevant. I'm not saying it that way, but I know she loves music. So if she's not putting anything out this year with her 20 year anniversary, she already did a long ass tour. I could see her just trying to get. Get a feature off.

[Mall]

I think we would know about that before we knew about the Romantic though.

[Rory]

That would like.

[Mall]

You can't keep that under wrap. We have a Bruno and Taylor Swift song. You can't keep that under wraps before we get the announcement of the album tour. We know about Leon Thomas and Victoria.

[Rory]

Jay would have told us.

[Mall]

Somebody would have told us that Bruno and Taylor Swift had a song coming.

[Rory]

We would have a secretary would have told us.

[Mall]

Yeah, we would have a video. It'll be all kind of behind.

[Rory]

Oh, no, I'm saying. No, I'm saying for this album, I could see them doing one.

[Mall]

Like having a song on this album. Yeah, but I think we would.

[Rory]

Second single. Maybe we're on the first single right now.

[Mall]

That would be the first single. Maybe not Taylor Swift. Come on, Rory, don't do that. We not.

[Rory]

Maybe they need time to shoot the video. She's in season right now.

[Mall]

No, she's busy. Well, we would know that they had a feature that's. Come on. That's two of the biggest.

[Rory]

We do have her flight logs. I see them on Twitter every day. So we would know if she was flying to the set. Yeah, but.

[Mall]

All right.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's really my only prediction for features. I have no idea what direction I'm.

[Mall]

Say he has a song with Leon Thomas.

[Rory]

I think after I hear the first single, I'll have a better idea of what feature direction he would go. Cause I don't even know the sound that he's going for in this one.

[Mall]

Yeah, I mean him and Leon, you know, they both. They kind of have similar styles in some ways. Yeah, in some ways, you know? Well, shit, Bruno has similar styles to everybody. Like, all he has to do is stand next to you and have a conversation for five minutes, and he can do exactly what you do.

[Rory]

He's the Game LAX album, where every feature. Wait. Damn, I know. Game could rap like two chains.

[Mall]

Once Bruno Mars shakes your hand, he takes your talent.

[Rory]

He's the basketball on Space Jam. Yeah, man.

[Mall]

Soon as you get Bruno Mars a D, his next album is going to sound something like yours. Believe that. He's going to take all your talent, all of your abilities. That's who Bruno Mars is. He takes all of your abilities and makes them his own.

[Rory]

That would be a great plot to, like, a sci fi movie.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Of just a. Just some guy walking around stealing all the artist.

[Mall]

Take all your powers, man.

[Rory]

They can call it AI.

[Mall]

Exactly. That's exactly what it is.

[Rory]

Bruno might be. Didn't we say that before? He's the first AI artist of all time.

[Mall]

Bruno.

[Rory]

Yeah. We give Timbaland a lot of shit, but Bruno might be the first. Has anyone ever actually touched Bruno? Do we know if he's real?

[Mall]

I keep asking y'. All. Has anybody ever seen Bruno, like, just on a day, chilling? Like, we don't get no photos, videos of somebody like, yo, that's Bruno Mars. Like, where does he hang out at?

[Rory]

He's in some ayahuasca chamber.

[Mall]

And then I said that, and people showed me, like, pictures of him walking to Starbucks. I'm like, that could be anybody walking to Starbucks. Like, that's not one of the biggest artists in the world. Like, Bruno has this insane ability to blend in and stand out at the same time.

[Rory]

I'm leaving that. Leaving that joke right over there. Not even. Not even gonna go down that path.

[Mall]

Blend in and stand out? Why is that a joke? I don't get it. Never mind. Okay.

[Rory]

Peach thought it. Staying on music. I did want to bring this up last episode and on Monday as well. What LaRussell is doing right now with his campaign is one of the coolest things that. That I've seen in a while. Obviously, LaRussell is not new to these campaigns or any of the ways that he does marketing, but the record he has with Lil John from the Bay shit that came out last year. Were you paying attention during the break of what he was doing with the visuals for that song?

[Mall]

No.

[Rory]

He was going to a bunch of high schools in the Bay Area and getting with their marching bands, their Cheerleaders.

[Mall]

I remember that.

[Rory]

Yes. And just shooting different visuals for the same song in different areas of the Bay at high schools with all the students. I thought that was like the coolest shit in the world to just keep repurposing a song to really work a record and do it, you know. And we don't know Bay politics like that, but it's like any city. And I even saw he was posting on his IG of like people pre 2000 what they thought the Bay Area was and what it is now. And that the Bay needs to be more inclusive and less, you know, crabs in the barrel. The way we are with the five boroughs, like, we're all the Bay Area. So he was even targeting high schools that people would specifically say is not the Bay, but that is the Bay type of thing. I just think it's been a really cool campaign. And then that moved into being the first single for this album that he's putting out now that he has kind of shouts everyone at even. Even's kind of like a Patreon for. For musicians. And he has this campaign going now where he's trying to get $100,000, sell 100,000 units direct to consumer. You can pay whatever you want for it. You know, I shot him. I shot him some bread today. Campaign to pre order it, Kyrie Irving paid $11,000. And obviously the Russell is not the first person to do this. I mean, famously. Remember when Nipsey was doing this as well, Hovid. I felt like Kyrie was trying to one up hove a bit because hov sent 10k to nipsey and then Kyrie just went above and beyond it did 11.

[Mall]

Like, well, he wears number 11.

[Rory]

I know, but. Nah, that was perfect.

[Mall]

You know, but not like, okay, what can I say? What can I say with somebody I know, but not trying to get you.

[Rory]

To tell me the backstory of why Kyrie and Hov don't like each other.

[Mall]

That's crazy.

[Rory]

But no, I think something's in the water campaign is. Is really cool. Even if you want to buy the shit for a dollar. I think artist Direct to Consumer is something that should be supported. And I wanted to bring it up because everything he's been doing the last few months is. Has been incredible.

[Mall]

Somebody else that's also on the side of that Direct to consumer that's been doing that Shout out to Shooter. Yeah, Shooter has been big on doing that Shout out. My guy Shooter with the Direct to consumer.

[Rory]

Rock Marciano. Yeah, Rock big on that. But yeah, anytime artists do this and do it in a very unique way. I'm always here to support. And visually, what LaRusso does with his team as well is incredible. Going from high school to high school for the same song, I think is the coolest shit in the world.

[Mall]

LaRusso is an incredible artist, incredible person, incredible mind, has incredible ideas. I think that he's somebody that we need to continue to support and help achieve whatever goals that they set. Because it all is something that changes the system. It disrupts what's already in place. Creates new ways to be creative and do things your way. Control your music, control your brand, control your art. So shout out to La Russell. Shout out to Kyrie Irvin. Kyrie Irvin is probably my favorite athlete away from the basketball court. Obviously, he's an incredible basketball player. But just everything Kyrie has ever stood for, everything that he's ever.

[Rory]

The links that he posts.

[Mall]

I mean, listen, everything he's ever. You know what I mean? Like, on that side, too. Like, listen, man, he does what he wants to do. He believes in what he believes in.

[Rory]

I've been pretty aligned with Kyrie outside of the Flat Earth thing, but he did come back and was like, yeah. And I was bugging, so.

[Mall]

See, that's why I respect that. That's why I respect that. That's why I respect Kyrie. Cause even when he kind of, you know, gains more information, he's like, you know what? Maybe I was a little off right there. Gotta respect that.

[Rory]

I went too far into YouTube that day. It happens to the best of us.

[Mall]

But I love Kyrie Irving and can't wait for him to get back out there with the Mavericks.

[Rory]

Yeah. I saw that Mike Jones still had his number. And I love. Because I guess this kind of aligns with the.

[Mall]

You called that number before, so in your life. So you called Mike Jones before?

[Rory]

Of course.

[Mall]

Did he answer?

[Rory]

By the time, like, it was on 106 and shit. Was it on TRL that was out already. They had whatever label he had signed to.

[Mall]

You couldn't get through.

[Rory]

No, it had, like. It was an automated. Like, yo, it was Mike Jones. Like, it was too big at that point. I wasn't, like, in Houston when it dropped where you would really get Mike Jones on the phone. But I think it's cool, based through him going through major labels, that he still has, like, control and owns that number.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And now can do, you know, whatever he wants with it. So I hope, outside of him just activating that number and getting a bunch of calls from fans in the last Few days. Even though he said he's had it open for a while.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But it went viral again, so I hope he does something with it.

[Mall]

Yeah. Shout out to Mike Jones. Man, the fact that this is still a thing so many years later. Yeah, it's just like, it's incredible, man. That's just hip hop.

[Rory]

Did I ever show you the photo of Peach wearing the who is Mike Jones with the number T shirt on?

[Mall]

Yes, I've seen that.

[Rory]

That should be the artwork too. Don't put us on the.

[Mall]

Yeah, it's all about you today, Peach. It's all you, baby.

[Rory]

Or just make, make me you.

[Mall]

Make me you.

[Rory]

The way Peach like does that with their faces. Yeah, just make me you the Peach one for that. But I don't know, I mean, should we give it a call?

[Mall]

Yeah, let's call Mike Jones. Let's see, let's see what he's. What he's talking about, man.

[Rory]

Peach, I know you know the number by heart. What is it?

[Mall]

800-Not-4Foe.

[Rory]

All right, let's, let's, let's see.

[Mall]

You know, Rory has dyslexia. He's. He's looking at the screen to read the dollar number.

[Rory]

I mean, listen, man, I've heard a busy signal.

[Mall]

That's just to hear that is crazy, right? A busy signal.

[Rory]

I don't know if I can find it. But, but to ease off a Peach in that, I. I have a photo of me and Mike Jones in an Orlando airport, like together.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

With my track team. We were running at, at Disney for like some track meet and we were just in the Orlando airport and Mike Jones was right there. And then someone for our team like.

[Mall]

Yelled the number out basically.

[Rory]

And then we all just got in a group photo with Mike Jones.

[Mall]

You took a photo of Mike Jones like he was the president.

[Rory]

Yeah, like in our whole track gear and like everything. It's on my Facebook. I'm sure I can find it on my computer. It was.

[Mall]

Oh, man.

[Rory]

But yeah, shout out to Mike Jones. He was the original Russell.

[Mall]

Yeah, man.

[Rory]

If you think about it, absolutely.

[Mall]

No, you're right, you're right.

[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

I know you don't keep up with snl. Did you catch any of that Chris Reed stuff the other day? Chris Redd, I'm sorry, you had briefly.

[Mall]

Told me about it. I know he's dating Kenan Thompson's ex wife.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Mall]

And then you was telling me he had got knocked out in front of SNL some years a few years ago, and nobody ever could figure out why that was.

[Rory]

So he did an IG video. I believe he has a special coming out. So he's been doing press and he had talked about dating Kenan's ex wife. And then he put out just like a full Instagram stated union of where he was at with his dating life.

[Mall]

Stop right there. Before he started dating Kenan's ex wife, were him and Kenan, do they have a relationship?

[Rory]

Oh, he goes through the whole thing.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

This was one of those, like, those ignorant stories that I, like, had to sit, hit pause, go back to what I was doing. I was compelled by this entire thing. So Keenan was obviously with his. His wife at the time. When Chris joined snl, he was cool with both of them. Like, he said they would go out and kick it, like, but he said he had no, no intentions. Didn't look at Keenan's wife that way. This and that. He started to build up somewhat of a pill addiction. I believe he brought up Adderall. I don't think he brought up any other pill. And he was saying to the point that he was even, you know, selling castmates Adderall at the show, which that was the only thing that really made headlines from TMZ. They missed a whole 10 minutes of the craziest shit ever. Because to me, a headline is SNL castmates do Pills together is not. That's a slow news day to me.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Chris Farley was snorting heroin, like, on camera. I don't care about 30 adderalls.

[Mall]

Right.

[Rory]

So he is going through his pill addiction. He's in a really low place. Kenan and his wife separate. They're not fully divorced, but, you know, she used to hang around the set. She used to be around, and they started a friendship, which when they split, I guess Chris did not really respect that. You're going with Kenan in this divorce. That's your castmate, that's your Man. And Kenan's ex wife started to help him, encourage him, get him into therapy, get him out of this really dark, dark space that he was in. Now this is 2022. He starts messing with Kenan's ex wife. They're separated. Keenan's ex wife is not cheating. They're separated, just not divorced yet. Magically, when Chris is getting out of the car at the Comedy Cellar on in the Village, he get. He takes a step out of the SUV and gets clean. Knocked the fuck out, blood everywhere. And was like, why would you just knock out this little comedian? Just mind his business. It's a cold case. It goes unsolved.

[Mall]

Cold case is hilarious.

[Rory]

SBU can't solve. Nobody can solve why somebody would ever knock Chris Redd out.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Clean. It wasn't like he bumped into somebody.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Stepped out. Clearly somebody knew he was about to be there.

[Mall]

He was waiting for him.

[Rory]

And got knocked the out.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So after Chris and no, I know he went through some shit. I'm not trying to clown him for crying on Instagram, but after he cried through, the whole thing was like, bro, I know it's foul that I did that to Keenan, but I didn't want to miss out on a chance of love. And, like, I don't regret that part, but I regret how the whole thing went down. He did that whole spiel, then he quietly threw in towards the end. Yeah. To the point, like, now I kind of understand why I got knocked knocked out. And usually I would retaliate, but I feel like we could call it even now. So it's like, okay, so we have finally solved the cold case after three years. Why you got knocked. You just connected.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

Maybe because I was. My friend's wife, I got knocked the out.

[Mall]

Right.

[Rory]

So finally, I feel like the. The police in the precinct of the Village can finally, you know, they can rest. We can close this one. Our tax dollars can stop. But I. I listen, Keenan, I know he's a comedian, but it's been business for a while. I'm sure he has. I'm sure he has some friends that will knock some people out if he be.

[Mall]

I have a bigger question. Do people really care about this?

[Rory]

No.

[Mall]

Okay. Because I was just trying to figure out if people even care about this happening.

[Rory]

I mean, the world. Yes, there are. There's a huge world that. That SNL is like, they live and breathe.

[Mall]

That.

[Rory]

That is still very much a thing. Even though we've usually said that it's been lackluster and, you know, it's Hit or miss, depending on who's hosting. SNL is still very much a staple. And this is. Yeah, it's the reason why I never understood why Pete Davidson was on Page Six every day. I'm like, why can y' all just leave this kid alone? Like, respectfully, like, he's not. Like, if he was, like, some really great comedian, I'd understand why people were so obsessed with him. But there's such a huge world of snl, and he was dating famous people that he met at snl. Like, this is a. Yeah, it's a big world. Okay. At the end of the day. And Keenan Thompson is super famous.

[Mall]

Yeah. That's a fact.

[Rory]

And him, his wife were together for a while. Like. Yeah, that is kind of a soap opera that somebody, a castmate was fucking someone else's wife.

[Mall]

Is there any chance that this is fake?

[Rory]

No.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

All right. That's commitment. If you get knocked out three years ago and then. Then you reveal. That's a slow game.

[Mall]

So they. So they. So him. And so Chris and Keenan were good friends before he started dating. Okay.

[Rory]

I wouldn't say, like, best friends, but.

[Mall]

They knew each other. They had a working relationship. Obviously they had, you know, spent some creative partnership. Yeah, yeah. I just don't. Why do. See, when you start getting into dating my ex wife or my, you know, child's mother, if it's an ex girlfriend, somebody I dated, ah, that's, you know, that's whatever. Well, but if this is somebody I was married to or somebody that I have a family with.

[Rory]

You met her through me.

[Mall]

Yeah, but even if I met her through you and. And that was just your girlfriend, like, you don't have no kids. Y' all weren't married. It's still kind of like, you know, it's weird, but it's, like, beyond weird. It's disrespectful when you know, this is my ex wife and you and I are friends, or you met her through me, like, it's. That's when it turns into disrespect at that point. If it's an ex girlfriend, I dated her. And, you know, it's like, yo, that's crazy. Like, you knew that was my ex girl, and then you met her through me. But if we have a family and that we were married, you can't do that. You can't date her. You cannot. There's too many women out here to do that.

[Rory]

And it's always funny because he started the video with, yo, I'm not the guy that goes after my friend's girls or even would sleep with somebody at my friend. I'm like, but you are. So what's the rest of this 15 minute video about?

[Mall]

Yeah, but you are. But you are. You know, I mean, and that's why.

[Rory]

But you say that just because you never did that before doesn't know you.

[Mall]

But you're doing that guy. Yeah. Like you're. You're that guy. Welcome to the. You're the guy now. That's exactly who you are. For him to say that, then he knows that it's. I just don't. In that relationship. Because there's never a day where one of them aren't thinking about that. Right. Like, if you dating my ex wife, there's never a day that you or her are not thinking about that. That's whether y' all talk about it, whether it's spoken about. When y'.

[Rory]

All.

[Mall]

It's in your. It's in your thoughts, it's at the front of your thought every single day. So how in that. How could you even be comfortable and secure in a relationship? Like, with that on your brain every day? Like you. You could try to say, oh, we don't think about it. It's not that deep. Cut the shit. It is. You don't have to speak. I'm not saying y' all have a conversation every day about it, but y' all definitely wake up and think about it every day.

[Rory]

And they have two daughters.

[Mall]

Oh, no. So no, no, no. You can't do that. Yeah.

[Rory]

So you're not, you're not about to run into her kids and not think about Kenan.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. You can't do that.

[Rory]

So you're. Especially with kids, you're 1000% right. There's no way you wake up next to that girl and are not also thinking of Keenan at that time.

[Mall]

Yeah, that's. No. Why? It's just so many other women out here. Why would you even.

[Rory]

Well, he was trying to say he was in such a low point, was the only woman in his life or friend in his life that actually looked at him as a person and wanted to get him out of this. I'm like, I hear you. But now your bond is to that. Like, that's like, that's really.

[Mall]

That's the foundation of y' all relationship. The foundation of y' all relationship. Is that cool?

[Rory]

That should be part of a partnership, should include those things. But if that's what y' all have in common and then the only other thing we have in common is That I know you through my mans that I work with or worked with. That's an insane foundation for a relationship.

[Mall]

Now. What happens when the relationship.

[Rory]

Wait. Takes another pill?

[Mall]

No, the relationship is over. Y' all split. Like, what happens.

[Rory]

So I was confused because to your point, I didn't care about this this much. I just laughed through most of it.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

He was talking in past tense sometimes and then in present tense sometimes. I didn't know if he was still with her or not.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

Because he was all on the. Like, by the time the public found out I left SNL and I had loved her. Like, he sometimes was saying it felt like he was with her. And then other times it felt like this was also over.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

But I mean, I know this is. We should be more misogynistic because Damaris isn't here where we put Kenan's ex wife in this whole thing. Let's not put it on Chris.

[Mall]

Is it like Larsa Pippen level ish.

[Rory]

No.

[Mall]

Is she from the Larsa.

[Rory]

There's never been.

[Mall]

Is she from the Larsa tribe? Does she go to Larsa school? Huh? We know Larsa's the Dean.

[Rory]

Like, we know she's like Larsa's God.

[Mall]

Yeah. And that in that when it comes to.

[Rory]

She's a mere mortal compared to, she's.

[Mall]

The one that you have to call and talk to if you're thinking about getting in a relationship like that. Like, listen, you know, my ex husband's friend, we've been kind of like, you know, texting, like, what should I do? And then Larson will, you know, she will help you do that. Kind of like when you call. Better help. Yeah, kind of like the same thing. Better. Larson.

[Rory]

20 off. Use code Chicago Bulls use code Pippin. No, I don't think she's in that. That, that realm. And again, we don't know these people. So I don't even care to speculate on the messiness Chris did do. It did throw a little nasty tidbit in there. And he's like. Then I started to learn about some, you know, her past relationship. Clearly we know you're talking about Keenan at this point. Yeah. And like, I learned some things that made me view people different now. And I was like, okay, so now you're saying this was okay because she told you Keenan did some up.

[Mall]

That's why you got knocked out. See, there you go. There you go. That's how it happens. That fast.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

You learn something and then now you sleep.

[Rory]

We didn't need Law and Order. This is the Easy one to solve. But I mean, I still think. I mean, it's crazy on her behalf too.

[Mall]

Yeah. But as the, as the, as. As the guy, though, I always. You have more control over that. Like, you choose if you want to, you know, date your co worker friend or however you wanna categorize his relationship with Kenan as the man. You determine that. You control that. Even if the wife is flirting with you or the ex wife is flirting with you. And you know that. You know the problems that come along with that, you know the energy that comes with that, you know that that's forever gonna be in your mind every day you wake up in that relationship. I just don't understand why you would put yourself in that position. It makes no sense.

[Rory]

And I wouldn't believe either of them if I was Keenan. And both them said, oh, we never viewed each other that way until the split. Like, no, I'm not. I'm not buying it.

[Mall]

Because now I'm not buying when that was my wife. I feel like you was looking at her like that with those.

[Rory]

What I'm saying. Yeah.

[Mall]

It's like you always wanted my wife. Like, so that's. It's just. You don't need that energy. It's just way too many other, you know, relationships you could be in aside from that one.

[Rory]

I wonder how much that's happened to SNL that we don't know about.

[Mall]

Ex wives or just like, we dated the same girl.

[Rory]

I mean, we just know how crazy. Not SNL per se was, but like the 80s. Like just those cast members and like the drugs they were taking and how wild. Like, I've read the John Belushi book. Like, they was all wilding. I could definitely see wives getting in that time in a crazy way. I think this. I think SNL is way more tame behind the scenes now. Like, John Mulaney is like the cleanest drug addict I've ever seen in my life compared to what old SNL was like.

[Mall]

As crazy as this may sound. And bear with me, fellas, we're being misogynist today. Damaris is not here. As crazy as this may sound, it may be better if you just fucked my ex wife. Cause we were all getting high at a SNL after party than you are actually in a relationship with my ex wife. It might. Being in a relationship with my ex wife might be crazier than just like we was all doing blow that night, drinking, bathroom. She gave me a little mop, mop. You know what I'm saying? And it just. I just.

[Rory]

We're all friends, man.

[Mall]

Birthdays. Wait, you're with, like, you're. Y' all live together. Y' all are actually together. To me, that's insane.

[Rory]

I don't think that's a crazy take at all. Yeah, I'm with you.

[Mall]

That's insane. Yeah, like, if we can get high.

[Rory]

Yeah. If you was snorting freebase off my wife's titty, those are the times.

[Mall]

You know what? Listen, man, it was a great run. Great run, but I can't. Y' all can't be at Wegmans squeezing avocados together.

[Rory]

Like, y' all can't get sober together.

[Mall]

Yeah, like, don't be at Wegmans talking about, yo, we get into avocados, and what do we make it to Taco Tuesday? Like, don't go get ingredients with my ex wife. Don't do that.

[Rory]

Yeah, you know how mad I'd be if, like, you got sober with my ex wife. Yeah, like, you guys became better people together. Get the fuck out of here.

[Mall]

Wild times, man. It's wild times.

[Rory]

Fucking nasty Mo. It's kind of. Kind of in real time. I was going to come onto the podcast based off a mention we just got and say I was completely wrong based off our last episode where I had said that Three Stacks had more rap verses than Big. For those that didn't listen to the episode, we were debating if Andre 3000 should be in the Goat conversation. I had said because Big's legacy was cut short, but he still is brought up no matter what, in the Go conversation. Why can't Three Stacks be there just because he was in a group? He had a higher output than Big did and isn't in the conversation. Somebody put an MC stat sheet in.

[Mall]

Our mentions, which is incredible, by the way.

[Rory]

Yes. I don't know if AT Ben Jones Live made this stat sheet or got it from somebody else, but he is saying that Big has 102 rap album verses, which is 16 bars and up, and that 3 stacks has 66.5. Now, I was going to come in here and say I was wrong, but now I'm looking at the rest of these stats, which makes me question the entire thing. He's saying big has 39 featured rap verses. Where 39. There's 39 big features.

[Mall]

It might be.

[Rory]

On what planet? I don't. He says there's 46 featured rap verses for three stacks. I don't even think there's 46 three stack features.

[Mall]

It could be. The other day I saw, like, Kesha.

[Rory]

First of all, that Kesha verse is all right, man, but that's what I'm saying.

[Mall]

There's so many of those types of verses that are probably out there that we just forgot and looked over.

[Rory]

So this. This is AI. So who knows if it's true or not that Biggie has appeared on at least 17 singles as a featured artist. They say singles, so that could change things. But 39 big features are out there. How many 112 and Mary J songs are out there that have Big on it.

[Mall]

Bone Thugs Mary, Little Kim, Little Love the Dough, Junior Mafia Junior.

[Rory]

All right, cool. Kim.

[Mall]

Jay.

[Rory]

I guess if you're counting victories. Yeah, I guess. I guess maybe if you start doing the ones that came out after he died, you could maybe get to 39. Just seems like a lot to me.

[Mall]

No way out on that album.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, maybe you get to 39, but I mean, still, I think I do stand corrected because I didn't think 102 to 66 was far from what I didn't know.

[Mall]

I didn't know that would be the number.

[Rory]

Okay, well, then if that's the case, I do take back my. My point of Three Stacks having an output far above people we consider Goat Like. All right. Yeah. I still think Andre is. Is one of the greatest rappers of all time, but based off what I was positioning in that debate, I mean, the stats here correct or not, so am I right? No.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

And I need to know the 463 stacks features.

[Mall]

I can see that, though, because his. A lot of his career post, you know, whatever Outkast was doing, he would give us a verse every year. Every two years, he'd give us a couple verses here and there.

[Rory]

46, though. There's only so many James Blake songs out there, Mo.

[Mall]

Yeah, you're right.

[Rory]

There's only two official Frank albums, and he's on both. But that's only two.

[Mall]

Somebody said technically, though, the Love Below was considered his debut album even though it was classified as an outcast album.

[Rory]

All right, technically, Technically, though, no, it was not considered debut album. Let's start there. Number one. Like, actually, technically, it was not.

[Mall]

By definition, it's not a rap album.

[Rory]

It's not even close to a rap album. Yeah, man, this is why I hate words. Even though it was classified as an outcast. No, it was an outcast album.

[Mall]

It was an outcast album. It wasn't classified as an out. It's an outcast album. But technically, though, I. You know, I don't. I don't. Because I don't, you know, I Looked at the clip and PE was, was. Was. Was cutting it today and I was just like, damn. I said I fell victim to putting 3,000 in my top five. Like, falling victim is.

[Rory]

You felt like a victim.

[Mall]

I mean, bad choice of words. That's why you say you hate words. I love words. I hate how we use them sometimes. But no, that is a thing for me though. Like, it was. Anybody who knows me knows the Andre 3000 is one of my favorite rappers, favorite MCs of all time. And he's always been, you know, he asked me my top five. It was probably. We probably got it on video somewhere, me saying it. But then you got to really think and it's just like, that's just not. It's not fair to other MCs, bro. Like, when you don't have a solo rap album.

[Rory]

Sure. And I also, as much as I hate words, I do hate stats as well. Like, I think stats are.

[Mall]

Some of the stats in hip hop is crazy.

[Rory]

Stats in general are just dumb.

[Mall]

No, it depends on what it is.

[Rory]

Sports. I'm here for stats. That's cool.

[Mall]

But like, if it's Pfizer, we need the stats.

[Rory]

You believe the Pfizer stats?

[Mall]

I mean, we need them. We need some numbers to look at. We got to look at something.

[Rory]

Blackrock. I really trust their stats. No, because stats. Stats take out context of so many fucking things. Of like fucking the most shark attacks are at the beach.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

It's where human beings are.

[Mall]

Where else was. Shark attacks takes place at the mall.

[Rory]

How many human beings are in the middle of the ocean at one time, but with stats, like. Because then you just put yourself deeper in a bad rabbit hole of debates when we do stuff like that. I don't want to make it a Drake thing, but it's just a good example of. I'm sure we could probably find the stats of how much raps are on Take Care. How much singing is on Take Care. Like, then at what point does it become a rap album? Like, once you get in that weird stat category. Okay, now if. If. Honestly. Never mind. In his catalog puts him over on the melody side than it does on the rap side. Is Drake a rapper anymore? Now, can he be in the conversations? Because we have stats.

[Mall]

Right.

[Rory]

Meanwhile, Take Care is a rap album, but it's a lot of singing. Do you compare that with, say, a straight rap album like a Jay Z or Nas? Because the stats say we can't.

[Mall]

Right? Yeah. When you get into that, it gets a little.

[Rory]

But that's where even. And I'm a hypocrite because I brought up that entire point of, well, how many rap verses does Three Stacks have versus somebody that has a solo project? Yeah, if he has more than someone with a solo project, then what are we even talking about? And, you know, it's just. Stats are dumb.

[Mall]

I think my point stands, though, Paige. I think I was right that you're a victim. Well, I fell victim. I definitely felt victim. But. No, I think you do. If we're going to say the top rappers, top MCs, like, granted, Andre 3000 is a fucking goat. He's a legend. We know that. But you gotta have a solo rap album. You have to, like, you can't be in the goat conversation in sports without championships, without rings. You can't be. You can't even be in that conversation. You gotta. You gotta have. You have to win.

[Rory]

Is Allen Iverson in a goat category at his position?

[Mall]

Okay, you see how you just. You see that? See that last piece you put on there at his position?

[Rory]

Well, that's why I always love the Simba goat record. Like, goat doesn't have to necessarily mean greatest of all time. Like, there can be multiple goats. I think AI is in a goat conversation for the era that he.

[Mall]

He's a great player. He's a great athlete. You know, he influenced the game and pushed the game to different levels and helped make it a global. A global thing for sure. But when you sit down and start having the conversations about who's the greatest in this sport, who's the greatest to do this, there's certain things that we. That must be there to have that person in the conversation. And I feel like in rap, if we're gonna say best rappers, you have to have a solo rap album. You can't be in a group because, okay, if Jadakiss doesn't put out solo albums, can we have him in that conversation? If it was just the lox, none of them went solo. Styles never put out solo. It was just the lox. They only gave us LOCKS albums. Do you say, oh, well, we're gonna take Jada out of that?

[Rory]

I think Ruda got more lox albums.

[Mall]

Yeah, but, okay, even if you did, even if we got 10.

[Rory]

So I think we would add more the way Outkast had an output. Because even if we did, even if.

[Mall]

You'Re right, Rory, you're gonna now just take your favorite out of the group and put him in the greatest. Like, he's the greatest rapper. One of the greatest rappers of all time.

[Rory]

Matthew Knowles did it with his daughter.

[Mall]

She has solo albums.

[Rory]

I know. Took her out the group.

[Mall]

She has solo albums, right?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

So that's what I'm saying. You have to have the artist stand alone. Even you know, the group, what they did. Amazing. But then you're like, okay, you're taking your favorite one out of the group and then isolating the group over here and putting that, you know, whichever rapper here. It's just like, it's not fair. But I love what you said at the same time of me saying I felt like I overrated 3,000 in that sense. You said you felt like Big Boy was underrated.

[Rory]

You see what I'm saying?

[Mall]

So it kind of works in that weird way where it's like, I feel one. Obviously, 3,000 is probably, you know, the one out of the group that people revere the most.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Whether it's because of his creativity, his style, whatever it is, that's up for other people to debate at the same breath. You'll say, yeah, but then Big Boy is underrated.

[Rory]

I have a good question. When you had brought up the New Edition being the greatest group of all time, a lot of what we said was outside of what New Edition did. Look what everyone else did with Belved, Devoe, Ralph, Johnny, Bobby Brown. Like, look what else they did as well. When it comes to the greatest rap groups, are we adding in what they did solo as well into that debate, or are we just straight up doing Outkast vs Mobb Deep?

[Mall]

If we talking.

[Rory]

Are we doing Wu Tang?

[Mall]

If we're talking greatest rap group, that would be an attribute. When, if, if and when individuals went solo, what did they do? What did they accomplish?

[Rory]

Well, then, I mean, that puts Wu Tang far above everybody, in my opinion.

[Mall]

Some people even. But some people have Wu Tang as the greatest rap group of all time.

[Rory]

They are the greatest rap group. Okay, But I could see some people. I mean, even though 36 chambers, woo forever, like all classics, I know plenty of people that would say, I prefer outcast discography over Wu Tang's group.

[Mall]

Yes.

[Rory]

You're not. You're not including anyone's solo shit. So do. Do we have the same debate on the other side of the coin? Like, is it just group versus group, or does their solo accolades have to be brought into this?

[Mall]

Well, it's like, who put out the list? It was B Dot of the top rappers of the year. Right. And he had clips, and we said, nah, you can't do that. It gotta be one of the. You know what I'm saying? It's like, if you wanna say top rappers of the year. Don't put the group, pick one. If you're gonna say the top rapper, pick one.

[Rory]

But then it's weird because, like, there's not a lot of groups. And Clips deserves to be. They were the best rap rapping entities of.

[Mall]

See, you change it. Look at the words. You go into Entities. Now we're at Entities.

[Rory]

I stole that from John Brown from the rapper show.

[Mall]

We were at Classified. Now we're at entities like this. This is what I'm saying. Technically, they're classified as an entity. I get it. I understand.

[Rory]

Technically, classified as an entity.

[Mall]

Yeah, I get it. I understand what you do, but that's what I'm saying.

[Rory]

But then what do you do? Because there weren't enough groups for B DOT to like, really make a group. Unless you count like, Larry June, two Chain.

[Mall]

No, no, no. What he could have did was he could have put Push or Malice one and then that push on Malice three.

[Rory]

But then people like you would have been like, it wasn't a solo project.

[Mall]

No, but we're talking about the top rappers. Yeah. So based off the year, like, okay, on this album. Cause again, we said Malice, he outputs.

[Rory]

But then you push on certain and. Yeah, but like on certain records, both of them, I felt like were pretty even sometimes push out.

[Mall]

Okay, so then put them one and two.

[Rory]

I mean, that's what my Apple Wrap up did.

[Mall]

Yeah, exactly. Clips, Push and Mods was Drake and Party. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, it happens. But you can't put the group and say top rappers. You can't do that. No. Pick one.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

So Top rappers. Yes. I had 3,000 in my top five for years. But the more I think about it and the more I start going down the list of rappers I like, it's like, it's not fair. He doesn't have no solo rap albums. You gotta have a solo rap album. And T. What is his name? Tedicted. Tedicated. Oh, teddicated. Pause. He says he don't need one. Yes, he does. And he's still great. He is. 3k is top 5 on any rap list. No solo project needed. We just want it so bad, we denounce him for not giving us one. I'm never denouncing him. I'm just saying, I. Me personally, my personal list, I cannot have a rapper as being one of the top five ever. And then somebody say, what's his solo album? And I said, he never put out one. To me, that's insane to say that. It's Insane doesn't take nothing away from his skill set. But you know how different it is to create an album with a group, even if it's just one other member versus it's just you.

[Rory]

It's a whole different escape from blemishes.

[Mall]

It's a whole different ball game.

[Rory]

I agree.

[Mall]

Some people never created music or an album, so maybe they don't know. But you can ask any mc, any rapper that started in a group, and they will tell you when it was time to create that solo album. It was an entirely different process and a whole lot more pressure on that one artist. Yeah.

[Rory]

Cause even, like, the more I thought about it after we left, I still stand on him being in that conversation. But I was thinking back of like when Q Tip put out the Renaissance. I was like, oh, yeah, Like, Q Tip's now solidified when he put out that solo shit. It's like, all right, two, three verses, every record making, every beat. Like, all right, Q Tip. Fuck everything he did with Trop. This guy. It's just Goat. Goat status now that you could put out a five mic record by yourself after. So I hear you.

[Mall]

Greatest voices in rap history. Q Tip.

[Rory]

Tip is up there.

[Mall]

Grand Poobah.

[Rory]

Am I mad at Grand Pooba.

[Mall]

Just voices, just tone, just.

[Rory]

I have Scarface like that for sure. I mean, Kiss, like, Kiss still has one of the most iconic rap voices. Dmx for sure.

[Mall]

Jay. Jay does, yeah. That nasal.

[Rory]

What's funny? Is Jay, like, made? That was like a talent to make his voice iconic.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Because, I mean, I was six when Reasonable Doubt came out. But, like, I'm sure everyone wasn't like, yo, his. His voice.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, it became like, once he started, like, doing that mystique with his voice, I think think that put him over the line. But I don't think anyone, like, out the gate was like that. Just pure regional. I think TI Is up there.

[Mall]

I mean, but.

[Rory]

And to everyone in Atlanta, he probably sounds like everybody in Atlanta. But TI Even when he. When Pharrell called him Jay Z at the side, like, TI did supersede a region, but sounded exactly like his region with everything that he put out that went around the world like TI the first time I heard T, I said, who the fuck is that? Because his voice. And not just the way he's rapping his voice.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, who the fuck is that? Jeezy's up there too. And Three Stacks. I mean, I think that goes without saying. Best rap voices, Snoop, we just saying 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3 got us. Yeah.

[Mall]

That got us here. We've been hooked ever since. On 1, 2, 1, 2, 3. Into the foe. Easy E. Definitely.

[Rory]

Yeah. I don't want to leave out the.

[Mall]

Most distinct voices in hip hop history, for sure.

[Rory]

Chief Keef. Yeah, I'm deadass. Yeah, Wayne's up there, too. Juvie's up there. Anyone from New Orleans, I feel like, has an incredible rap voice. Yeah. Like, it's just.

[Mall]

It's just the sound of New Orleans. Yeah.

[Rory]

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[Mall]

So you was a little excited in the group chat. Yeah.

[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

Maybe the industry thinks that we just.

[Rory]

Started skating five years ago because that's when they made maybe started paying attention. It's a no fluff conversation about putting in the years, stacking clips and receipts and still having to prove your worth while the industry catches up. You break down the door sick now, like hold the door for everyone. We created Good Luck with that because we want to share our experience existing in an industry that wasn't always built for everyone. So listen to Good Luck with that on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Mall]

Ma.

[Rory]

It's playoff football time. I'm excited, man. This is a good episode for Damaris to miss. So we can just like.

[Mall]

Yeah, now we can get a time. We could be man. And talk about football and for sure.

[Rory]

And talk about some gambling. To be quite honest, I don't listen. Giants stink. So I only care about the spread. I'm only here to gamble for the playoffs.

[Mall]

Only the spreads.

[Rory]

I'm here to spread them all. I'm here to spread them sponsored by Hard Rock.

[Mall]

I like that. This is spread them sponsored by Hard Rock. Bet.

[Rory]

You can bet. I'm gonna to spread them.

[Mall]

Let's do it. Rory, I don't do. I don't want you to spread it, but it's time to spread them. Let's. Let's. Let's pick some of the spread.

[Rory]

Let's look at the spread and let's. Let's get some. Some guesses off. And I don't think whoever loses the spread needs to spread them, but it could be funny if our listeners comment on what. What a punishment could be. Let's. Let's. Let's make some picks here. Okay. And if I end up winning, we'll pick the funniest thing in the comments of. Of what the punishment can be. I want to make it clear, though, we're drawing. I'm not spreading them. If I.

[Mall]

No, no, no, no, no, no. This is. This is spread them sponsored by Hard Rock. Bet this.

[Rory]

I'm spreading the Patriots. But three and a half. I'm not risking to spread them.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel you on that one. Yeah. All right, so who we got? Rory?

[Rory]

Well, I guess we could start with the. Is Patriots. Chargers. Minus three with the Patriots. I'm taking the Patriots. I do think they're going to beat the Chargers.

[Mall]

No, no, no. It's not minus three. It's minus three and a half that. See, this is. This is very. It's very. No, no, no. Minus three and a half. You have to say it's minus three and a half.

[Rory]

That was just like Andre 3000 with 66.5 versus exactly. That's why he lost the big.

[Mall]

Exactly.

[Rory]

Well, either way, I'm still taking my pick. I'm going with the Patriots. I think they will beat the Chargers by more than three and a half.

[Mall]

I like that. I like that spread.

[Rory]

All right, so we both spreading them.

[Mall]

I do. No, I like that. I like me personally. I have the Patriots going to the Super Bowl.

[Rory]

I don't think that's a crazy take at all.

[Mall]

Yeah. I have the Patriots going to the super bowl, but I do like this spread. I do like Patriots minus three and a half.

[Rory]

That's kind of disrespectful to Draco.

[Mall]

Why?

[Rory]

Because I think they're going to beat the Chargers by 10. That's kind of crazy. I mean, even I kind of feel like the Bills minus one against the Jacks is disrespectful too.

[Mall]

That.

[Rory]

That might be disrespectful as I'm taking the Bills on that all day. Yeah, like Vegas sometimes, man, I got to figure it out one day. But yeah, I'm taking the Bills in that one. I think Eagles minus three and a half is disrespectful as well. No, the 49ers are good, don't get me wrong. But I don't know. I'm taking the Eagles there too. I don't have any really like surprise ones here. I think maybe where we could figure.

[Mall]

Out you taking the Eagles.

[Rory]

Yeah. To win that game by more than three and a half.

[Mall]

I like 49ers in that game.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mall]

I like the 49ers in that game. I'm taking the 49ers in that game.

[Rory]

Okay. Do you have Rams -10 at the Panthers? If I'm the Panthers, that's. That's fighting words.

[Mall]

I'm taking the Rams in that one.

[Rory]

I'll take the Panthers on that. I think the Rams are going to win, but I don't know if they're going to win by 10.

[Mall]

Yeah, I'll take the Rams in that one.

[Rory]

I'll take the Panthers on that one.

[Mall]

All right, so I got the who? I got Josh. I got the 49ers beating the Eagles. Well, we both picked the Patriots to win, but then I picked the Rams to beat the Panthers and.

[Rory]

And then we have Bills over the Jags.

[Mall]

Minus one is minus one.

[Rory]

That's nuts.

[Mall]

That's crazy.

[Rory]

But I don't know. We'll see. Yeah, all streaks must come to an end. But yeah, we'll pick something in the comments of what the punishment should be. It's funny. Off Mike Peach was saying a live stream until you finish a 5,000 piece puzzle.

[Mall]

We're not doing it.

[Rory]

We're not picking that one.

[Mall]

Yeah, we're definitely not.

[Rory]

I can't read. You know, I don't know if there's a much data or data in the world to do a live stream of me trying to finish a 5,000 piece puzzle.

[Mall]

Yeah. I would be here for 5,000 days trying to finish that. Just not my ADHD and be biblical.

[Rory]

Y.

[Mall]

It won't allow me to finish that. But that is our Spread Them sponsored by Hard Rock Bet. And we'll have to see who has to spread them at the end of this weekend.

[Rory]

That's the merch that Hard Rock needs to make.

[Mall]

Spread them.

[Rory]

Spread them. That's the merch.

[Mall]

Spread them, baby.

[Rory]

Right. Right in the front of the. The snapback. You put Hard Rock on the back, but put Spread them right there.

[Mall]

Spread them.

[Rory]

While we're on gambling, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna say what the site is because, you know, we only support Hard Rock bet, But, you know, there's sites that you could bet on literally anything. On one of those sites, they had. They had a. They had to spread them as far as what? The White House press conference.

[Mall]

The White House spread them.

[Rory]

Listen, Clinton has showed us that they do a lot of spreading.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

In the White House. But there was a bet how long the press conference was going to last. And shorty got out of there. She was shaving points. I'll just put it that way.

[Mall]

Right before the clock, right before the buzzer went over.

[Rory]

That is the Pete Rose of the White House for sure. She got out of that. She was in the middle of a sentence, like, yo, Mel, she saw that. She saw a red light, like she was at a comedy club.

[Mall]

That's funny.

[Rory]

She got out of there immediately. That was.

[Mall]

So they had a briefing. Had a 98% chance of running over 65 minutes until Caroline Leavitt abruptly ended it with seconds to spare. Traders on the no side made 50 times in seconds, 50 times their bet. Wow. Yeah, this sounds like. I don't know, man. This feels like insider trading. Somebody called Carolyn. Carolyn before the game was like, yo, listen, man, this is what we doing. This is the spread. Like, listen, we need this.

[Rory]

Out of all the insider training the White House does, this is the one I care about the least. This is just funny to me.

[Mall]

Yeah, this is fun. This is like office fun shit.

[Rory]

But this is. I mean, this is why I could never have, like, a relative that has, like, this type of power. Because I would be showing them these over unders every day.

[Mall]

Oh, for sure. 100.

[Rory]

Like, dude, tell me you've rehearsed your speech already. Yeah, tell me exactly what that clock. Like, I. I'll come over there with my stopwatch. Just let me know. We don't even have to make you rush out of there and just give me the accuracy.

[Mall]

All you have to have is somebody in the back that's like, yo, we had, like, 10 seconds.

[Rory]

Like, oh, you know, that's what happened.

[Mall]

They gotta have the marriage. Do this in the back. Like, that's what they should do. Y' all should start betting on how long our episodes are gonna be. Stop betting on that.

[Rory]

Listen.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

If somebody. Yeah, we could work it out, let me know. I mean, this was bound to happen when they shut the government down. Government. Nobody was getting paid.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Now they gotta bet on this.

[Mall]

Type of. Got to. You got to. We gotta make money somehow.

[Rory]

But, see, this is why I'm saying we need to talk to your NBA friends.

[Mall]

You said it to me on camera.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

What's wrong with you, man? What the fuck is wrong?

[Rory]

What are we doing, man? We could retire.

[Mall]

We're spreading. Yeah, yeah. We talk about it like, some of. Some of my homies in the league, like, we. But we laugh about it, obviously. I'm not. I don't. I don't. You know, I would never be like, yo, listen, man, just take the under tonight. I'm not doing that. But it is a thing, though. Like, they had conversations, like, amongst each other, like, with some of their friends. They be like, yo, you crazy. Like, I'm not doing that shit, man. Like, not. Hell, no. But then it's fucked up because you see certain games where they point out certain things that players be doing, and it's like, wait, that looks a little fishy, bro. Like, what. Why would you. How did you. Airball right there? You know what I'm saying? Like, the other night, what was it? Jalen Brunson hit that shot, that three. Remember? They had the Knicks. Yeah, they had the Knicks. And Jalen, he stole the ball. Stole the ball and then turned around and just shot a corner three. And it went in and they ended up winning by two. They lost by two. Shit like that. When I see that, I'm like, come on, bro. Like, I get it. Jalen play to the buzzer. But come on, bro. You knew something. Jalen knew something. In that moment, he knew he up somebody's money.

[Rory]

My favorite part of 2025 so far is watching everyone on Tick Tock just get tricked for the idiots that they are.

[Mall]

What do you mean?

[Rory]

It started on New Year's Eve where hundreds of people showed up to the Brooklyn Bridge because, oh, they thought it was fireworks. There was, like, a. AI, it wasn't even fireworks. It was like a bunch of. Or like, the fire that falls. I forgot what that is called. So somebody made an AI video of that, like, on. I don't know, the 30th, 29th, or whatever. And, you know, all the New York transplants were like, oh, we have to go see that this year.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So they all lined up in Dumbo to watch this at midnight in the freezing cold and just wasted the first few minutes of. Of their new year doing this dumb with their phones out.

[Mall]

Is it the fireworks usually at Battery park on New Year's is. I think it's on the other side, right?

[Rory]

They haven't done New Year's fireworks in a minute.

[Mall]

No, they did fireworks this year, though. I think they were on. Just on the wrong side of.

[Rory]

Well, either way, they thought a bunch of lights were gonna fall a lot of people off an AI video on Tick Tock. And then there was another one at the top of this year. This guy had an idea of, you know, you could. You could. Could do a month, pop up shop somewhere anywhere in. In the Village or. Or Soho or whatever. So he rented a spot and used Tick Tock to promote this new ramen spot that has five stars. Like, he made the Yelp page. Everything, all the comments. So influencers on Tick Tock started calling them, like, hey, can we come here and review the entire thing? All he was serving was ramen noodles. Like, I like it out the Styrofoam.

[Mall]

I like. Like this.

[Rory]

Look at. Look how long this line.

[Mall]

All of you sheep, look at you sheep.

[Rory]

No, the funniest part was the calls of, like, hey, I'm an influencer. I have like 200k. Like, can I get in the front of the line? He got a dj, he bought some fake plants.

[Mall]

He said a vibe. He said a vibe. Okay.

[Rory]

He just put green lights.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Probably scribbled those paintings the day of.

[Mall]

Right?

[Rory]

It's vibes and then ambiance everyone, you know, home cooked. Best. Best they've ever had. He was asking how much they would pay 45 to $50 for.

[Mall]

For just instant ramen. That's crazy. There's a spot not too far from here that every time I pass that the line is wrapped around. I think it's called Wah Fung.

[Rory]

I'm not sure.

[Mall]

W a H F U n G. It's on Christy. I don't know what they're selling in there. Oh, yeah, but that line is always wrapped around the corner. I don't know. That's it right there. Rory, I don't know what they're selling in there, but we gotta go over here one day and check it out. Up that line. Bro, you don't understand how it's. I Don't. I don't know. That might be one of these things where an influencer went here.

[Rory]

I'm sure it was one of those.

[Mall]

Yeah, that line is. But I'm talking about. It's been like this for years.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mall]

For years. This line is.

[Rory]

There's a couple spots in this. This area that are like that every day based off what IG Reels and Tick Tock are doing. Even across the street from my barbershop in the East Village for the last year, there's just been people wrapped around the corner right across the street. I finally asked my barber. I was like, yo, what is that? He said, it's a photo booth, dog. I said, like a. Like, is it a special type of photo booth? He said, no, it's just one on TikTok that people promote. And it's just a photo booth.

[Mall]

Sheep.

[Rory]

It's literally just a photo booth.

[Mall]

All of you sheep. Yeah, but we gotta. We gotta go in there and talk to the guy, the chef, and see what's going on in there.

[Rory]

What's funny is with the ramen shit, and I don't know if love. It's because the instant ramen just has so much salt. And, like, that's what we were adapted to as kids. I go to the fancy ramen spots, and I love ramen a lot of time. Like, bro, this. This should cost 75 cents. There's no flavor in this broth. It. I'm paying $60 for noodles.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And undercooked pork.

[Mall]

Are you a faux. A faux person?

[Rory]

Love. Foe.

[Mall]

Yeah. Yeah, I like that.

[Rory]

What's it supposed to be pronounced as? Fa. Fo. I say foe.

[Mall]

I get.

[Rory]

Get cursed out by snobs all the time.

[Mall]

FIFA Fofa. Let's get some FIFA.

[Rory]

But no, I'm down to. Down to go Peach. And I want to go to Salt Hanks. We're turning into the Tick Tock influencers. That looks like the best French dip sandwich of all time.

[Mall]

That sandwich did look good. Y' all showed me that video. That sandwich does look good.

[Rory]

Of course, you'd have to come out of retirement.

[Mall]

No, I would never eat that. I would never.

[Rory]

That would be worth coming out of retirement. Never.

[Mall]

I would not eat that.

[Rory]

You should break your celibacy for that.

[Mall]

Hell, nah. No, but that. That sandwich does. I know a good sandwich. I know what to look at when I'm looking at a sandwich. Like, okay, that's a good sandwich. The bread, the cheese, pause. The pastrami. Is it.

[Rory]

No, it's. French dip is like beef yeah, okay. Not roast per se, but yeah, beef.

[Mall]

That looks like a good sandwich.

[Rory]

Caramelized onions.

[Mall]

I gotta go. Just so I can know, like, if it's peach, I know is gonna love it. All you gotta do is give peach fucking cheese and beef pause. He'll have a fucking great time. Like, he don't give a fuck.

[Rory]

Anytime they take out the torch to just touch the top of the cheese, I'm kind of sold.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, as much as I'm clowning all these people on TikTok that are sheep, like, it's pretty easy to get me on a YouTube short for a restaurant. Like, you just have to show me two places.

[Mall]

I'm like, all right, man, I'll be there.

[Rory]

That's how you grated the cheese.

[Mall]

I'm there, I'm there. I'll pull up tomorrow. What time?

[Rory]

I mean, shit, even days reviews for pizza, I'm easy to get that way. There's in our area, one of the biggest ones that just opened, which is good. But I don't know, I feel like the Internet, that changes taste buds.

[Mall]

It's. Well, when you see people raving about something like, oh, this is amazing. Yeah.

[Rory]

Something else in your mind.

[Mall]

Let me go see if that's what it is.

[Rory]

Like, because the pizza I'm talking about is great. Like when I. I bought it for the three of us, like when it first opened, because it was raved. Dave called it like the best pizza ever. And it was great. I'm not saying it wasn't, but I was like, if I had tasted this without seeing all the reviews, I'd probably like it more. But I think I kind of was like, no, this is great. But like, this the best I've ever had.

[Mall]

But to be fair, one thing I will say is you have to have that pizza like fresh out at the. Oh, you don't get it delivered because by the time it gets old and things like that, it's like I walked to get it.

[Rory]

This place only does by appointment.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Because they make it like they can only do so many pies. So I picked it up as it came out of the oven and it was great. But I don't know the Internet with your mental when it comes to food. For sure.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Because I've even with our area just, you know, your phone can find your location pretty easily. So I'll get the algorithm of restaurants in the area and you know, if I have some time, I'll stop at the five star joints. I'm like, I really should. Just went to the Deli. Yeah. Like, the deli would have been a better option than this entire thing. And then I go back to the video I watched that convinced me. And I'm like, this chick was only talking about the vibe and the martini the whole time.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, is wrong with me.

[Mall]

You missed. You ordered all of the wrong. All of the wrong.

[Rory]

These apps were to die for. They wasn't. I lived.

[Mall]

I had. Yeah. I'm still alive. I'm here.

[Rory]

Well, at least someone is bringing, like, balance to society.

[Mall]

More.

[Rory]

While people are creating fake Yelp pages and websites to make their ramen spots. 5 stars. There are still some. Some good old Italians in New Jersey that are using Yelp to attack their customers for every review.

[Mall]

I love that. I love that. I love owners that are like that.

[Rory]

Attack the customer. I'm not going to say what restaurant is, because last time we did Yelp reviews with a liquor store in Brooklyn, it almost came to fisticuffs. I don't know if you remember that entire debacle. We don't have to go down that path again. But people are leaving, you know, regular Yelp reviews.

[Mall]

And this.

[Rory]

This was last year. Waited 45 minutes even though we had a reservation and we were on time. Extremely, extremely expensive. The owner then replies, anyone who gives the restaurant two stars is a blowjob.

[Mall]

Is a blowjob.

[Rory]

Okay. That's some Italian shit.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah. You're a blow job.

[Mall]

You're a blowjob. Okay.

[Rory]

It has no credibility. Stay home and cook for all our sake. Who has credibility on Yelp?

[Mall]

Well, I guess they're saying if you're. If you're not like, a chef or a restaurant owner yourself, then it's like you don't know what you're talking about. You don't know good food, that type of thing.

[Rory]

Well, I mean, that's the point of Yelp is the customers. It's not a Wall Street Journal food critic.

[Mall]

I like it, though.

[Rory]

This other review is super long. I'm going to read the entire thing to bore everyone. But a typical Yelp review of overpriced $22 for soggy Brussels. $600 total is freezing. I just want to get to his reply to this very lengthy and fair review of their experience. I wouldn't worry about that small table. I'd be more concerned about your small. It's evident based on the fact that you took the time to create accounts and leave a review. We truly feel for your wife here. One star for you. A star for every inch of your cock. And in parentheses it wouldn't let me spell correctly.

[Mall]

Yeah. Like, I wanted. I wanted to be clear of what I'm trying to say. Like, I was trying to spell it right. They wouldn't let me spell it right.

[Rory]

Because we have to add some integrity to our reviews. Yeah.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Don't think that. I was just saying. I know that Yelp just wouldn't let me do that.

[Mall]

Exactly.

[Rory]

Then we get to just a quick one of someone. Steve started to notice that the. The owner was replying to certain things. So Steve wanted to, you know, be a good Samaritan, give everyone a heads up. Hey, if you had a bad experience, he's gonna say something mean to you. So maybe we should be prepared.

[Mall]

Prepare yourself.

[Rory]

So Steve tells us, if you write a bad review, the owner insults you in the reply. Karma will catch up with him. Steve again, just trying to help out the people.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

The owner then takes that response and goes, cuck. Yeah. How do you land on cuck?

[Mall]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rory]

Learn to pronounce noun one. Informal. I believe he. Is he now just putting the. The definition of cuck.

[Mall]

Yes.

[Rory]

A weak or servable man. Parentheses. Often use. Oh, mall. You're gonna have to definitely spell that.

[Mall]

Word for me as a contemptuous.

[Rory]

Jesus Christ, I must be a cook. Term for a man with moderate progressive political views to a man whose wife is sexually unfaithful. A cuckold.

[Mall]

He knows nothing about that man if he's married, nothing about him. He knows nothing about Steve. And this is the owner?

[Rory]

I believe so.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah. Then for the authorities, essentially, that would be the owner, though that makes perfect sense.

[Rory]

I didn't know that was the definition of cuck. Now. Now I actually fully understand why Republicans called Democrats cucks. I always thought it was weird. I was like, are you just assuming that he likes to see his wife give. I didn't know there was a real political view part of that. And I didn't know a wife well. She's not unfaithful. If you like watching her get. You're just a cuck.

[Mall]

Yeah. Because you. You know she's having sex with somebody else.

[Rory]

Yeah. Aren't you asking her to do.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Puff was a cup.

[Mall]

It's weird. Yeah, it's weird.

[Rory]

No, I still. I mean, I still think that's warranted on Yelp. I'm not trying to take away from the.

[Mall]

No, no. He's in his review. He used it correctly. Yeah, yeah, Absolutely.

[Rory]

Steve just mind his business. But no, I wish more of this would happen. Yelp. Yelp should allow people to spell out and like, I feel like it'd be a cooler place if people lose the.

[Mall]

Other C right there.

[Rory]

If you were allowed to just clap back at reviews this way.

[Mall]

Just leave like crazy reviews. Respond. Respond to the responses.

[Rory]

I tried to do that on our live on Patreon, but you guys got mad at me.

[Mall]

Me. When did you try to that cuck?

[Rory]

I tried to get him in the Zoom Zoom room.

[Mall]

I don't remember.

[Rory]

He leaves reviews every day on every episode. I was like, well, let's. Let's talk. He.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah. But he's. But come on, you know that I'm.

[Rory]

Just trying to be like this guy.

[Mall]

Yeah, but that person is not gonna. You talking about getting on camera. That person's not gonna do that.

[Rory]

He's definitely Steve F. For sure. I'm sure this happens more in New Jersey than we know about.

[Mall]

I love it though, man. To me, that makes me want to go to that restaurant.

[Rory]

Oh, for sure.

[Mall]

Like now I want to go there and just like, even if the food is incredible, like, I just want to like, be like, yeah, the food's great, but I'm only here because I want, you know, I want them to get in the comments and kind of like kill me about it.

[Rory]

But even like the mom and pop West Indian restaurants, they don't go to this degree. But the ruder they are to you, the better. You know the food's gonna be.

[Mall]

You walking, she has an attitude.

[Rory]

She's sucking her teeth when you order. The like, do what the restaurant's for.

[Mall]

If you walk in and she has an attitude or she's on the phone, food is about to be incredible.

[Rory]

Or if you have the nerve to ask if there's still oxtails after five o' clock and she's like, what the is like, why would you think that?

[Mall]

What kind of establishment you think?

[Rory]

We were thinking they would still be here, come back on Wednesday, but they.

[Mall]

Would still be here. Like it's 5:15. You thought after the lunch hour. I thought they would still be available.

[Rory]

I would love to know what your. Your Yelp reviews back to. To some of our. Our, our listeners would be.

[Mall]

I thought about.

[Rory]

But then it goes. It goes against what you always tell me to stop doing is replying it. Sometimes it's fun, but just.

[Mall]

No, no, that's what I'm saying.

[Rory]

Just.

[Mall]

Just to have fun. Just to have fun. And like, I might do that in our comments now.

[Rory]

Like I might answer the Internet type of.

[Mall]

Yeah, it might just take two weeks and just like go on to all of our posts. And just respond to people and have some fun.

[Rory]

Would you go back to our. I think we still have the Tinder accounts, but I think I definitely took off the.

[Mall]

God, no.

[Rory]

We were paying like monthly, so we get more swipes. I definitely took that off like four years ago. But that could be fun to go back and do that.

[Mall]

Go on Tinder.

[Rory]

Yeah, with each other's accounts.

[Mall]

But we went on. Didn't we create, like. Wasn't it gay profiles that we were just acting like.

[Rory]

What? No, you created my profile from your phone. I created like, my Tinder. Right now is mall. It's not Rory. Okay, I know. I was the only one that made yours. Mine is straight.

[Mall]

Yes, that you made.

[Rory]

I remember because you had integrity. I made yours bisexual. And I only replied to the guys.

[Mall]

Oh, my God, man.

[Rory]

We should bring that back just to.

[Mall]

Go on Tinder as each other.

[Rory]

Yeah, I think that could be fun. But then, like, follow through with it.

[Mall]

Like actual set up a date.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'll take it off. Bisexual.

[Mall]

Thank you.

[Rory]

Oh, and I put in no age. Like, no age. Oh, there was like 50 year old women in there.

[Mall]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

And there were some old dudes for sure.

[Mall]

Yeah, take. No, take that off my.

[Rory]

Some old cucks for sure.

[Mall]

Please. Come on, man. Take that off my profile. I'm not mad at that, though. We can revisit that. Maybe.

[Rory]

Let me see if.

[Mall]

And just see what. I don't. I definitely don't know the login or nothing like that. I probably couldn't access the account that I created for you.

[Rory]

Yeah, I just opened it up, man, with the mall profile. Come out the gate, Daniella40. That shit has speed.

[Mall]

Okay. Yeah.

[Rory]

What about.

[Mall]

But you swipe left on it.

[Rory]

You put.

[Mall]

Nope.

[Rory]

Whoops. My bad.

[Mall]

That was my speed.

[Rory]

What about Chris 52.

[Mall]

Okay. No. Swipe the same way.

[Rory]

He's only in Stony Brook.

[Mall]

Swipe the same way. You just. He's only in Stony Brook.

[Rory]

I'm trying to think what I put like as your profile. This was so long ago that we did this.

[Mall]

I definitely can't access your profile on that. I do not remember that password.

[Rory]

I could be getting so many hits right now.

[Mall]

Definitely.

[Rory]

There's probably so many people that think I'm just so rude that I'm not. That I'm not getting.

[Mall]

They think you're conceded it.

[Rory]

Oh, Josh, come on. How do you find your own profile on.

[Mall]

You never been on Tinder. It's been on Grindr. Josh has been on Grindr.

[Rory]

Yeah, I don't think I've Read this In. In four years, you're about me section starts with three money bags is your boy. You know what time it is?

[Mall]

Who would want to talk about.

[Rory]

I told Guru to unleash the flutes. I'm 40 and have never been in a relationship, so clearly I have no intimacy issues. Also, yes, that is Drake in one of my photos. I was ahead of my time and why did I put bigs into this, man? Why? Why? That's one photo with you. No, we're definitely going back to the tender streets for sure.

[Mall]

That's hilarious.

[Rory]

Before we get out of here, I know we. We didn't put a real wager on if mall is correct or not on the surprise album. I mean, I think with that one, outside of the hard rock bets, like you got to spread them. If you're wrong about the surprise album. Sure.

[Mall]

That's crazy.

[Rory]

We know we're getting the Bruno Mars record tomorrow. I did hear the IDK and Pusha T record Life for Life. That is great. Shout out to to idk, French Montana, Max B. We get a mixtape, Coke Wave 3.5, Narcos. I mean, if that. Depending on the rumored surprise album, that. That would be my first go to. I think. I think you have a little interlude on that logic record that comes out. It's all your fault.

[Mall]

It is all my fault.

[Rory]

Right, Chief Keef, Harry Potter. I'm always here for a chief geek record. Jordan Ward has a record coming out. Young Blue, Ferg. It's a lot of here. I'm not mad at that. The ASAP Rocky joint that came out. Of course we knew the video was going to be fire already, but the record school too. Yeah, I. I mean, his fans like the Rocky. Stan I think is always fine with him experimenting. So I don't think he's gonna upset his fan base with the sound that he has. What is it? Is it ASAP Punky?

[Mall]

Is that the name of the album?

[Rory]

The name of the single? I believe. Oh, but yeah, it's cool. I like the sound. I mean, it's child drums. But what isn't?

[Mall]

Back to the child drums. They're everywhere.

[Rory]

No, but this time I'm actually. This is child ass drums.

[Mall]

Back to the child drums.

[Rory]

But no, I like the. I like the Rocky record. To be quite honest, the records he's dropped in the last two years, I think I like this song the best. The other videos might be better, but the song is good. I'm not mad at Rocky singing in. In some alternative way.

[Mall]

I'm listening to it. I want to hear what Rocky's doing, man. I want to hear if he's still inspired to make music or create music, and you know what I mean? Like, life is totally different for him now, obviously.

[Rory]

But at the end of the last episode, I brought up Rihanna in the Fenty photos that she dropped mainly the product as we were leaving. Did you guys see she dropped the visual for it? Just great fabric. The fabric looks even better in the video.

[Mall]

The fabric, huh?

[Rory]

You ever see the visual when we left?

[Mall]

Is that the visual?

[Rory]

It's screenshots.

[Mall]

Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, good fabric.

[Rory]

Yo, Grok. Never mind.

[Mall]

Yo, Grog. Nah, shout out to Rocky, though, man.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, for sure. It could be a good, good new music Friday. We. We shall see.

[Mall]

People active. Top of the year. People active. They dropping, putting out music.

[Rory]

We going live at midnight. You and I on Instagram Live.

[Mall]

Well, when they're hearing this, we would have went live, but it depends if I'm right or wrong, if I'm right.

[Rory]

Well, if you're right, I'm gonna want to listen to the project. I'm not gonna probably want to go on live.

[Mall]

Why not? Let's listen to it together. Okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We can't. We can't.

[Rory]

We can do it on Patreon, though.

[Mall]

I don't even know if I'm allowed.

[Rory]

Oh, no, because we'd have to do it. Yeah, we can do it to Patreon.

[Mall]

I don't even know if I'm allowed to go live anymore on Instagram.

[Rory]

Ah. Yeah.

[Mall]

I mean, I haven't tried the amount.

[Rory]

Of times when I was playing music when they were switching the rules, I got flagged a bunch of.

[Mall]

I made a joke months ago about somebody in the chat. I remember they flagged it. They cut the. They cut the live. And I've never tried after that.

[Rory]

Yeah, that was bad. Yeah, because that was a really good lie that we kept, and then we had to take it.

[Mall]

It's a really good joke, too.

[Rory]

I think the person you said it to laughed like they weren't even.

[Mall]

Yeah, she laughed. Oh, she didn't care about that shit. Like, it was a joke.

[Rory]

I did see that. Our Discord and Patreon is trying to do like a Emily in Paris watch party. Is it Sunday?

[Mall]

Yes.

[Rory]

Is when the new crack drops.

[Mall]

No, no, no. The season is out. They want to. They want to just talk about the season.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mall]

On Discord.

[Rory]

So did you watch the full.

[Mall]

I'm almost done. I got two episodes left on the fifth season, and they just got renewed for a sixth Season shout out. Emily in Paris just got renewed for a sixth season. They thought it was over. Emily. Emily.

[Rory]

Six. Yo. No, seriously, congrats. Yeah, I again, didn't particularly like, like, conversation.

[Mall]

He said congrats.

[Rory]

No to more congrats.

[Mall]

Come on, man. I did that. I did that.

[Rory]

Emily. No, it has to be a good, like, six seasons is crazy.

[Mall]

Yeah, no, that's incredible, man.

[Rory]

Okay. All right, maybe I'll give it another shot. Like y' all keep to get to season six.

[Mall]

It has to be telling y', all, man. Emily and Paris and What gets to.

[Rory]

Six seasons these days?

[Mall]

I think they said in 11 days they did like 26 million views or something like that. You know what I mean? So, yeah, man. Emily and Paris is still kicking ass out there, man.

[Rory]

Yeah. Okay. I watched.

[Mall]

Was it you that told me somebody. Did y' all see. Did y' all watch paradise on Hulu?

[Rory]

No, Beast to me is what I told you.

[Mall]

You told me. I'm gonna start that discussion. No, you have to watch paradise on Hulu.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mall]

The second season, I think starts in February.

[Rory]

All right.

[Mall]

Watch paradise on Hulu. Incredible show.

[Rory]

Did you ever watch the pranks that, like, Red Bull and all those people used to do where like, Eli Manning would dress up as, like a try to be a walk on player to Penn State and would just ball out? They did a bunch of them. Like Chris Bryant did one with Greg Maddox. They're funny. Okay, so Eli Manning was this guy, Chad Powers that tried to, you know, try out.

[Mall]

Of course, Chad Powers, that's such a name of.

[Rory]

And it was. It was funny, right? They made a series on Hulu called Chad Powers where this guy who used to play for Oregon, he drops the ball at the one yard line as he's scoring the winning td. His life fucks up after that and he goes back to college dressed as Chad Powers and, you know, starts balling out. It's kind of. It's produced by the Mannings. Okay. It's like, what is it? Omaha. Omaha Productions is what they call this shit. It's not Ted Lasso, per se, but it really wasn't as bad as people made it out to seem. And it just got a second season. So I'm curious if you need something and just turn your brain off. Chad Powers isn't that bad. It's actually kind of a funny football show. So Beast, you can tell the Mannings wrote it, though.

[Mall]

Okay. Beast in me. Chad Powers, definitely watch paradise on Hulu. Make sure y' all check that out, fellas. Check that out. Everybody out there if you haven't seen it already. Incredible show and Marty supreme, man. Go see Marty supreme this weekend.

[Rory]

It's my neighbor, man. I have to.

[Mall]

Yeah, go support Timothy, man. I see what they're gearing Timothy up to be the next Leo, Brad. You know, they, they.

[Rory]

Yeah, for the last few years. He's going to be one of them.

[Mall]

Yeah, I think he's the next.

[Rory]

Yo. And the Wall Street Journal finally just gave the first Stan account a proper write up. The six year old woman that runs Timothy's fan Twitter page or whatever got like a wall start. Wall Street Journal business write up. Oh, oh, no, no. I think it was the worst thing that's ever happened.

[Mall]

You think it's the worst thing to happen?

[Rory]

Oh, wait till the Kendrick and Drake stand pages now. Like start getting deals.

[Mall]

Oh, okay.

[Rory]

I'm saying it just legitimized.

[Mall]

Oh, okay, okay.

[Rory]

I see what you're saying. Yeah, it's scary. It's very, very fucking scary.

[Mall]

But definitely go see if you get a chance, we can go see Marty Supreme. Great movie. I think that it's definitely, probably gonna be up there with movie of the year. I still think that Leo's one battle after another with Teyana Taylor. I still think that's gonna be the movie of the year 2025, obviously, but love Marty Supreme. Great movie. And I might. I might go see it again this weekend. All right. Yeah, I might go see it.

[Rory]

Well, hopefully next time we talk to you guys, we will be reviewing an album.

[Mall]

We'll see.

[Rory]

If not, we'll just pick an album and review it.

[Mall]

Let's start it right. Let's start it right. All right, we'll talk to y' all soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just Ginger. Peace, no warrior.

[Rory]

Now, this is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.