Episode 444 | Unpop The Oxy

Summary

New Rory & Mal – Episode 444 | Unpop The Oxy

Date: January 20, 2026
Hosts: Rory, Mal, and Damaris
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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Episode Overview

This episode marks Damaris' return to the New Rory & Mal podcast after a recovery from surgery. The crew dives into everything from surgery stories and 2016 nostalgia to new music releases, wild experiences in NYC nightlife, the concept of Nepo babies, and controversial marketing missteps. The episode is peppered with their trademark playful banter, witty takes on pop culture, and honest conversations about music, relationships, and generational trends.

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Damaris Returns: Surviving Surgery & Oxy Stories

Timestamps: 00:12 – 03:35

• Damaris comes back post-surgery, joking about BBL rumors ("I have the same exact BBL scars, but I don’t have a BBL." – Damaris, 01:09).
• She describes her convalescence:
  • "Sent emails, cried, watched Law & Order. That's literally it. Sent emails, cried, and watched Law & Order." (Damaris, 01:57)
  • Discusses being on oxycodone and binging Law & Order ("Watching Law & Order off Oxy is mad fun." – Damaris, 02:13)
• The crew riffs about trauma and horniness, reflecting on how people cope with hardship and referencing pop culture.
  ("Trauma makes people horny though." – Mal, 03:35)

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NYC Life, Going Out, and Dry January

Timestamps: 05:10 – 14:36

• The team jokes about Damaris missing out on episodes with Mitch and Major providing "feminine energy."
• Complaints and nostalgic tales surface about unreliable winter plans and snow keeping everyone inside.
• Debate over bar sports-watching—whether sound should be on or off, and why New York has turned "soft" about snow.
• Damaris laments missing out on football, asking, "Who's going to the Super Bowl?" (07:45)
• The Patriots are favored, and the crew is surprised at their quick franchise turnaround after a short rebuilding period.
• Hookah culture & NYC night scenes: Mal’s rare appearance at Mirror lounge, the prevalence of women out in groups, and gendered social dynamics.
• Splitting the bill: The crew laughs about women splitting checks—a supposed sign of progress and "the world healing."
• Discussion around Dry January – who cheated and who is still abstaining. Mal claims he's smoke-free for the year, while others reveal struggles and relapses.

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2016 Nostalgia & Wild NYC Days

Timestamps: 15:11 – 51:10

• Damaris brings her "red demon" hair back in "honor of 2016," which launches a wave of nostalgia for that year.
• Endless jokes about how 2016 was the last universally “great” year.
• The art of the marathon NYC date:
  • Vivid breakdowns of legendary multi-stop outings ("If you go on a date, you’re going to seven spots and coming home at 4am." – Rory, 39:10).
  • Arguments about what a “real” night out entails, with a catalog of venues, brunches, barbecues, day parties, rooftop hangs, and eventual after-parties.
  • “When you with a baddie, you never know where the night’s going to end.” (Damaris, 46:59)
• The group admits these aren't 30s+ activities anymore, but were staples of their 20s.

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Generational Fashion, Age, and Relatability

Timestamps: 18:05 – 31:56

• The hosts joke about how everyone in old photos looks so much older, tying into an MLK Day discussion and generational changes in fashion.
  • "They used to look real old back in the day." (Damaris, 18:08)
• Damaris rails against the modern fixation on "relatability" in celebrities and creative work.
  • "The people that I like watching or the content that I like consuming are people that I can't relate to." (Damaris, 31:05)
• They dive into the need for artists to be relatable versus aspirational, using Jay-Z's oeuvre as an example.

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J. Cole's New Music & Literary Debate

Timestamps: 22:12 – 34:49

• The group debates J. Cole's latest song, dissecting lyrics and theories on whether he took a "shot" at Jay-Z:
  • "I was signed to the so-called rap king." ("I don’t think it was a shot." – Damaris, 32:00; "It was just an honest emotion." – Mal, 32:50)
• Discussion about double and triple-disc albums—what’s too much music in the streaming era?
• Hopes and speculations about Cole’s potential “bop” single and what would constitute a satisfying album rollout.

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New Music Rundown: ASAP Rocky, TI, and Unexpected Features

Timestamps: 43:43 – 60:44

• ASAP Rocky’s new album: All hosts agree it sounds excellent, especially the production and Rocky’s energy.
  • "Every beat on this is better than any beat I heard all of last year." (Rory, 55:13)
  • "This is the best Rocky album probably since the first one." (Rory, 55:33)
• They question if Rocky belongs in the "new Big Three" of rap, cite his influence, and compare to contemporaries Tyler and Travis Scott.
• TI’s comeback and Grand Hustle talent: Reflecting on missed opportunities due to legal issues and label management.
• Fascinating trivia: Remixes and unreleased versions, like Lady Gaga’s take on “Bitch, Don’t Kill My Vibe” and Beyoncé’s “In Da Club”—the team reacts to rare clips.

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Nepo Babies: The Good, the Bad, the Complicated

Timestamps: 75:02 – 85:20

• North West drops her own music; everyone agrees it’s impressive for her age.
  • “Her dad is a musical genius and her mother understands visual aesthetic probably better than anybody in the modern era. She has some pretty good genes.” (Rory, 75:26)
• Conversation expands to famous children (Nepo babies):
  • Whether it’s possible to be a Nepo athlete—Jalen Brunson is discussed as a borderline case.
  • "You can have all the access in the world, but you got to do the work." (Rory, paraphrased, 85:10)
• Social media is seen as a double-edged sword but a potential creative outlet and “savior” for celeb kids.
• Discussion includes Elon Musk’s estranged daughter, the idea that true wealth can make you value money less, and more “crash out or supernova” Nepo kid examples.

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Culture, Backlash, and Marketing Snafus

Timestamps: 93:33 – 107:49

• Ludacris pulls out of Kid Rock’s “Rock the Country” festival:
  • Mal criticizes the move as caving to backlash; Damaris counters, “I would rather him not piss off his core fan base.” (94:28)
  • The event is acknowledged as highly politicized, not just a regular festival, justifying Ludacris’ withdrawal.
• Nike and LeBron’s Martin Luther King Jr. sneaker error:
  • Hosts are shocked and disturbed by the colorway using the Lorraine Motel teal (associated with MLK’s assassination site).
  • “Who thought that was a good idea?" (Mal, 105:51)
  • "You don’t honor the murder site, the assassination." (Rory, 107:45)
  • “That’s like, if all Irish Americans wanted to honor JFK, we all went in drop-tops and drove around for the day.” (Rory, 107:49)
• The group jokes about other failed, tasteless tributes in marketing and pop culture.

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Closing Moments & Community Shout-outs

Timestamps: 102:26 – End

• Celebrating Cass' new morning radio show gig—joking he’s a “Staten Island legend” now (103:46)
• Wishing Damaris continued healing, with playful jokes about her return and her “titty push up.”
• Wrapping up with self-deprecating humor, sneak previews of future Patreon topics, and roasts on themselves and marketing missteps.
• "We'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm the…He's just ginger." (Mal, 108:34)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Damaris on her recovery:
  "Sent emails, cried, watched Law & Order. That’s literally it. Sent emails, cried, and watched Law & Order." (01:57)

• Mal on bar sports:
  “I can’t watch the game like that. The sound is not on, the DJ’s playing his latest mix… I just can’t.” (07:00)

• Rory on NYC nightlife:
  "If you go on a date, you’re going to seven spots and coming home at 4am on a date? Yeah." (39:10)

• Mal on trauma and coping:
  “Trauma makes people horny, though.” (03:35)

• Rory, critiquing Nike's MLK sneaker:
  "Out of all the things you could find to honor Dr. Martin Luther King, you’re choosing… the heel off a motel that he was murdered in." (105:39)

• Damaris on online ‘relatability’ obsession:
  "The people that I like watching or the content that I like consuming are people that I can’t relate to." (31:05)

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Episode Takeaways

• This episode is a testament to the podcast's blend of honest, irreverent banter and in-depth discussion. Nostalgia flows into sharp pop culture critiques; music geekery and NYC life experiences anchor much of their chat.
• They discuss the changing tastes and behaviors of urban nightlife, the pitfalls of too much music in the streaming age, and the double-edged sword of Nepo baby privilege.
• The team isn’t afraid to call out tone-deaf marketing schemes, nor to lovingly roast themselves and each other.

Anyone tuning in will come away entertained—packed with inside jokes, breakdowns of music and cultural phenomena, and plenty of moments that feel like overhearing smart, funny friends riffing on what’s happening in the world.

Transcript

[A]

This is an Iheart podcast. Guaranteed human.

[B]

The volume.

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No warrior now.

[C]

What you giggling for? I can't laugh. Fuck is funny. It's a rolling start. Welcome back to Baby D. She's here.

[A]

N. Clap a lot louder. What the weak ass. Welcome back. Thank you. Hi.

[C]

Fresh out of surgery. Flashy as you gonna have to murder.

[B]

D. I don't even feel like you was. Was. Was gone though. CU spoke to you, so it wasn't like we didn't see you here, but like we spoke to you.

[C]

Her spirit was there.

[A]

Tell me in 50 different ways he didn't miss me.

[B]

Like you keep telling me you don't believe me, so I'mma keep saying it.

[A]

Stop.

[C]

I'm happy to see you back and healthy, but I was not expecting the red demon to return. Is this part of your 2016 Shaka Maris right here.

[B]

Shaka Maris.

[A]

I needed to feel like myself and. And dyeing my hair back red helps me feel like myself. I did not feel like myself, so.

[C]

Okay. Well, how are you feeling, though?

[A]

Like, I'm okay. I'm. I'm okay. A little residual pain, but I'm okay. It only really hurts when I laugh.

[B]

Streets are saying you got a BBL. A3 lipo360.

[A]

They are. I wish. I have the scars. I have the same exact BBL scars, but I don't have a bbl.

[B]

That's what they saying. They're like Baby D just have. She had a 360 lipo 360.

[C]

I mean, while they was in there, they couldn't just move some things around.

[A]

That's what I was saying. I'm like. Like, y' all can't.

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Since we here. Since I'm on the table.

[C]

Yeah.

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It's literally the exact same places they go in for lipo. Like, damn, y' all couldn't. But no, unfortunately not.

[B]

So you can't laugh too hard.

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I can't laugh. I can't laugh too hard.

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Still very.

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You can't sneeze, sneeze or cough.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So hopefully it's, you know, your allergies ain't acting up today. I don't know about laughing though, cuz. You know, we gonna get on your ass since you wasn't here. We gotta. We gotta talk some with you now you gotta do that.

[C]

Did you pick up any new, like, hobbies? Learn anything about yourself?

[A]

I just sent emails, cried, watch Law and Order.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

That's literally it. Sent emails, cried, and watched my order.

[B]

That's all. That's all you did.

[A]

I don't know why you don't believe me.

[B]

I don't. I don't. I'm being honest. I don't believe that's all you did. I don't believe all you did was send emails crying, watch long, bro.

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If I was to call any of my friends right now, my phone beyond.

[B]

D. Friends lie for you.

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My phone.

[C]

I lie to you all the time.

[A]

Sitting in the crib. Like, literally just like, sleep off Oxy. And then when I'm up, I'm watching Law Order. Oh, and also watching Law Order off Oxy is mad fun.

[B]

All right, well, I never did that on.

[A]

It's mad fun.

[C]

Maybe we'll do it for a Patreon episode.

[B]

Like, you gotta pop an oxygen. Just binge watch Lord.

[A]

Like, damn, that is crazy. It's no fun.

[B]

I do that when I'm not over.

[C]

I mean, what's. What's Olivia like? Off the oxy?

[A]

Off the oxy. You see that? She really a. She really a real ass bitch. But she be in her feelings sometimes. Like Olivia.

[C]

That's because she was. We can't say the word. We'll get demonetized.

[B]

That's because she's a woman.

[C]

No, she went through a traumatic experience that the show is about. Okay, so every case is personal. Yeah, and I. He works in the sex division and still doesn't understand not her and Rollins be giving out.

[A]

They gotta stop her and Rollins gotta stop their co workers.

[B]

Okay, but why?

[C]

It's consensual in a show based off non consension.

[A]

Yeah, but it's like you climbing to the top. And now they don't. They don't around fired you because you just cuz you couldn't. Couldn't keep that to yourself. You don't around and one of your co workers now, they looking at you like, wait, you compromised. They moving you to internal affairs somewhere.

[C]

Like, you gotta also getting turned on at work with that job is a little weird. Like, why are you like, in Mad Men? I guess I kind of understand it. At an advertising office, you could find a way. But like, you work in the sex crime division. You're like, you know, I'm a fuck my coworker.

[A]

Yeah, I'm gonna leave and go fuck my co worker.

[B]

Like, well, trauma makes people horny though.

[C]

Yo, put the better help ad right here.

[A]

No, land that. It's like circling the air right now.

[B]

Like when something traumatic happens. Like, you know, whether it's, you know, death or. Y' all never seen wedding crashes. You saw how he was cleaning up at the funerals. Some Traumatic shit. Chicks was mad horny, though.

[C]

It was a script, but it's a real thing. I want to give them all pushback, but, yes, my daughter was conceived around a very traumatic experience. See, we were in that location because of a very, very traumatic experience.

[A]

Not that trauma makes you horny. It's that trauma makes people want to escape, and a lot of people use sex as an escape.

[B]

Well, according to the AI, yes, trauma can make people feel horny, but it's complex.

[C]

What does AI know?

[B]

Oh, I mean, all right, so then fuck it. We don't breathe AI. No. But, yeah, trauma really does make people horny.

[A]

Okay.

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Yeah.

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I don't know. It was the tr. I think it was more the Ocean prime and topgolf, but same day, I.

[A]

Never went to Ocean prime and I got no. So I feel that makes sense.

[B]

You never went to Ocean prime and.

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Not got afterwards and not got you either.

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For sure.

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Yo. I. I'm just saying.

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But I think I've ever went to Ocean prime with just a friend. Like, that's kind of weird.

[B]

Oh, anytime you.

[C]

Yeah, like, it was always with, like, ocean. With somebody I was, like, dating.

[B]

He was trying to have.

[C]

Yeah. Or already having. Yeah, just going to, like, Ocean prime with the fellas is kind of. Kind of nuts.

[B]

It's another word for that. But we won't say that this early in the. In the broadcast.

[C]

You know, all the incel streamers did it together.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Over the weekend.

[A]

How y' all been? I seen y' all have some. Some. Some women on the podcast. Don't never bring the hoes here when I'm here. Listen, man, I leave suddenly.

[C]

Some. Some. Some may have called an audition or. Or a job, and we didn't know if we were gonna. If you were gonna be here today.

[B]

Yeah, you got that. I heard you got that lipo360. I said we done lost her. She gone.

[A]

She gone.

[B]

She gone. You know, once I get that lipo360. Yes. It's over with. Like, nah. But yeah, we had Mitch and Major on come in and give us some. Some. We needed some feminine energy in the studio since she was going, so we had a good conversation with them.

[C]

Yeah, it's available now on Patreon. It was a very, very fun, fun episode. I want to have them back again with. With Baby D here, too. Yeah. And once they get a little more comfortable. They. They. They were great. Except you guys flaked on me this weekend. I was already. You guys hyped me up on the Patreon episode that we were going to go to a bar in Harlem on Sunday, my day off. I got a haircut and I may or may not have laid out like a fit. I texted more. I texted mall in the wake up. Like, yo, 8am yo, what are we doing at 9 tonight?

[B]

I looked outside, I saw last night. I'm like, roy, if you don't get off my phone, man, I'm not lounging in snow. You crazy.

[C]

It's the best time to go.

[B]

No, not me. I was cool, right in the bed.

[C]

Watching football, some Montclair boots. I was gonna get off.

[B]

Like, you had the whole lay down. Okay, okay. Yeah, my bad. I ain't know you was that you was at a game.

[C]

I almost just went, oh, yeah. What's the name of the bar again? No, but it occurred to me that New York has turned into Atlanta. We are that was that snow on Sunday was nothing. No, like, we used to laugh at that type of shit. Now they're like, we should cancel the day.

[B]

It wasn't a snowstorm. But it's like when you wake up and it's snowing, it's Sunday. It's playoffs on. I'm not leaving the crib. I'm like, not to go to no lounge. I'm not doing that now.

[C]

Well, I assume they had the game one. That's why I, like, wanted to go.

[B]

They probably did, but I wasn't. It's different, you know, it's different when you. Because the sound is not on. The DJs playing his latest mix. His latest. We're just watching them. Like, are they going forward on fourth? We can't hear what they're saying. Like, I just can't. I can't watch the game like that. I just wasn't down to that.

[C]

I actually don't mind the bars that. That put, like, the sound on. And then on commercials, the DJ comes back in.

[B]

It's about the 4040.

[C]

Well, yes, the 40. 40. Yes. Does that. But a lot of bounce does that. But then, like, they don't do the volume. They don't EQ it right.

[B]

Yeah, the.

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I shouldn't.

[B]

The game is loud as fuck. I can hear them.

[C]

I shouldn't hear Jeezy. And the commentating at the same level, like, with the bass on.

[B]

Yeah, no, I'm cool. That's what I see. That's why I don't go. That's why I stay in the house.

[C]

But we could have had some fun. Can we do it this Sunday?

[B]

Yeah, if Mitch is working. I'm not sure if she's dead this Sunday or not. But I'll hit up and we'll find out.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, we definitely got to pull up though, to support her.

[A]

How was football this Sunday? I didn't watch long order. What's going on? Who's like going to the Super Bowl? I don't, I don't know.

[B]

Patriots all the way May. All the way May.

[C]

No one's going to the super bowl yet. It's the Patriots in Denver and the AFC Championship.

[B]

Patriots is going to the Super Bowl.

[C]

I mean, they are going to walk. Now that, that the Broncos are that hurt, they'll probably just walk. Walk right there. Has there been a franchise that came off a dynasty that turned their franchise back around that quickly?

[B]

I can't think.

[C]

Did the, did the Celtics do that? Did the Lakers do that? Like, no, I can't think of a time. Like, it's how many years they had like one bad Cam Newton year and now they're about to go back to the Super Bowl? Yeah, no, this is with a whole new squad. It's not like there's remnants of like whole new offense. Matter of fact, their outside linebacker is now the head coach. It's the only remnants of the entire thing.

[B]

Yeah. It's been fun to watch though, like, and it definitely was surprising. I remember at the beginning of the year I was like, there's no way. Like, I just thought it was like you said, I thought it was our rebuilding time. I thought it was gonna take a couple years.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But what Drake May has been able to do and you know Stephon Diggs is playing is great this year too. Like, they surprised me.

[C]

Fair going. Going from drafting the greatest quarterback of all time in the sixth round to then drafting a 23 year old phenom in a two season turnaround.

[B]

Crazy. Insane.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But, yeah, they look like they're going all the way though. Patriots look like they're going all the way.

[A]

And the other one side. Shut up, Rory.

[B]

I like the. I like the Rams. I like for them to go in Chicago and do what they did in that cold. Everybody thought that was going to be the element that I thought the Bears.

[C]

Were going to win. Yeah, I was a little shocked.

[B]

But I like, I like the Rams. I like the Rams and Patriots.

[C]

I mean, I can honestly see the Patriots.

[B]

You said we'll spread them later on.

[C]

Yeah, we'll go through our spreading picks later in the week and then pick our. Yeah, our new spread Ems. But no, it was, it was a very good, good playoff week for sure. I Enjoyed all the games. But yeah, I had to do it from sanctity of my home when I wanted to go outside. I haven't been outside in so long.

[B]

Yeah, okay, we'll get you outside, so don't worry. You're not missing much.

[C]

Wanted to get vertigo from the hookah, like, wanted to get a stomachache.

[B]

Oh shit. I did go out Friday though. I totally forgot about that shit.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Trevor's in town. Trevor, Reasonable butcher. I haven't seen him in a while. The Knicks invited him out. They had like an alumni day at the game Saturday.

[C]

Oh, nice.

[B]

Okay. So he hit me Friday, Friday morning and told me he was in town. So we went out and got something to eat. They were smoking hookah. I was just like, yo, dawg, everybody. No, he was the only one smoking. No, actually his lady was smoking. He wasn't smoking hookah. But I was just in there like. Everybody's like, yo, moro, what's up? You good? I was like, dog, I don't be outside. Like it's one in the morning. I'm like, yo, dawg, what we doing? What we doing? But you know, I haven't seen Trev in a while. So he wanted to just hang out and kick it. So he had me outside till like 3:30 in the morning. I called him the next day. I was just texting like, fuck you and I'll never want to see you again. And my body was hurting just from being out.

[C]

Oh, that's why you didn't want to go out Sunday. You was on your year. I'm saying you were on two day recovery.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no. I was good Sunday. If like I said Mitch was cool and she said she was going, I would have told you, like, yeah, let's go. But I wasn't leaving my bed just to go watch people smoke hookah in Harlem. I wasn't doing that.

[C]

So it was like a club situation.

[B]

Or Me and Trev went, yeah. Oh, it was, it was a. It was. What's the name? Mirror. Mara Mara Mirror. It's like a hookah lounge slash restaurant, Mediterranean vibe. It was cool. I could have guessed it was a cool little vibe, but you know, I don't be going out. And he had me out till damn near four.

[A]

So.

[C]

Okay, any. Any lady friends out there? What was the crowd like?

[B]

It was cool. It was a nice little mixed vibe and it was, it was a lot of. I don't know what's going on with the fellas in New York, but I saw a lot of ladies, just ladies by themselves out.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And I was like. I was looking at tables like, either some niggas done pissed them off or they about to meet some niggas after this, like. Cause I couldn't believe it was that many tables with just women, like, and no guys.

[A]

We like, hanging out with each other.

[B]

No, I saw. I saw that, but I.

[C]

But still, I mean, they were talking and, like, yeah, they was having a.

[B]

Dating.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Splitting the bill. Nobody.

[C]

Was it free? Was it on the house? Who paid? No, women don't have wallets.

[B]

Listen, they. They split the bill. It was no arguing.

[A]

I hate that. Right?

[B]

I was just like, oh, look at this. Like, the world is healing a little bit. Like, okay. I didn't know that the ladies was taking themselves out and just.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Having a good time. Yeah.

[C]

A lot of Caesar salads. Or they get, like, entrees.

[B]

No, it was. It was entrees. It was crazy.

[A]

I don't think y' all know how women eat when y' all aren't around.

[B]

Oh, no, y' all eat.

[A]

We go crazy.

[B]

Y' all eat like horses when we not around.

[A]

Yeah, we go crazy.

[B]

Like, I already know. Trust me, I know.

[C]

Yeah, it's. It's women. And whatever NBA team is in town that keeps Tao afloat for sure. Like, keep the lights on. Who's ever whoever. The visiting team, plus women. It's just keeping that place.

[A]

This mirror place looks nice, Mom.

[C]

Where's it at?

[B]

It was cool.

[A]

It used to be East 34th.

[B]

It used to be another spot, and they just rebranded it. I forgot. I think it used to be called Babylon.

[A]

Oh, that would make sense.

[B]

I think that was Babylon before everything.

[C]

Every hookah spot was called Babylon before.

[B]

Yeah, I think that was Babylon. Because when we pulled up, I was like, I feel like I've been here years ago.

[C]

Is it smoke and mirrors?

[B]

No, Mara. M I R A. Oh, and we're giving them free pub. But it's okay. The guys was cool. That owned the spot. It was super cool. So shout out to them, man. But, yeah, go check it out. You'll like it.

[A]

Well, when I'm done with dry January, because that's been going great.

[C]

You had no. Well, you know, choice.

[B]

Yeah, that's.

[A]

No, I had. I could drink.

[B]

No, you cannot.

[C]

After surgery.

[B]

You're gonna drink after taking Oxy's. No, you cannot.

[A]

I'm not operating heavy machinery. My. If I wanted to drink, I could drink.

[B]

No, you cannot, bro. Wait, you said no way.

[C]

Alcohol and Oxy shouldn't go together unless you're a construction worker.

[B]

Yeah, like, what are you talking about?

[A]

Like, what? I would die.

[C]

Now everyone's a soundcloud rapper. You're not supposed to drink alcohol and take oxygen.

[A]

Oh, I haven't been doing it, but I always thought I could drink. Like, they didn't tell me I couldn't drink. They said don't drive if I, like, was to drink. Like, with the Oxy.

[B]

I don't think we should drink. Like, I just don't think you should be drinking. Like, not. Why? You just had surgery.

[C]

You can drive just off Oxy's or drink.

[B]

You can't laugh. You're not allowed to laugh, but you want to drink. Like, what the fuck are you talking about?

[A]

I don't want. I plan on not drinking anyway. Even before my sex.

[B]

Yes, you did. You said dry dreams.

[A]

Yeah, I was doing dry dreams.

[B]

Peach hung in there for about two weeks.

[C]

Nice, Peach.

[A]

You gave up. You quit on me. Alex quit on me too.

[B]

He gave up. What was it last. Last weekend, right? Last Sunday, I think he had. Oh, I saw. Yeah.

[A]

You sent me a selfie of you out with Benner. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Peach hung in there as long as he could. I knew he wasn't gonna make it, though. I could just look in his eyes.

[A]

And Rory dying to have a drink.

[C]

Who said I was doing dry January? I never once said that. Joy didn't drink.

[B]

I didn't do any dry January.

[C]

I did dry holiday break and New Year's, and then I got back in the action.

[B]

You got back in the game.

[A]

Said I did a dry week. I mean, I don't know.

[C]

I'm not a pussy. Like, nah.

[A]

February 6th. My first drink. Gonna be my first drink. February 6th.

[B]

I'm still smoke free.

[A]

When you gonna stop? February 6th.

[C]

Now you caught secondhand at mirror well hookah.

[B]

Yeah, but. Yeah, no, I'm not. The whole year. I'm not gonna smoke.

[A]

Oh, you did say the whole year. How are you? How has your mood been? Like, you've been okay?

[B]

I'm fine. I'm not a crackhead, baby D. Like, I don't. I'm not one of those people that wake up, smoke weed, can't eat until I smoke weed. Like, I know people like that. I'm not one of those guys. Yeah. So, no, I'm good. I'm totally fine. It's easy for me.

[C]

Not even like a celebratory like, your birthday iceman, because she's.

[B]

She's drinking for cold smoke for when Drake's album come out, that is. Yo, you going to add to this narrative? That I'm gay online. You saying like that, bro. Like, stop saying like that. No, I'm not smoking for Drake's Al.

[C]

Only saying that because she just said her first drink was going to be February 6th. There's a reason. That's the day Cole's album comes out.

[B]

Wait, that's why you drink it?

[A]

Well, no, to me, I was going to do February 1st, obviously, but I was like, let me just wait till the weekend. And also, that's when I can, like. That's when I'm, like, officially kind of like, off my medicine.

[C]

That's when the oxy's run out.

[B]

Yeah, that's when her prescription is done.

[C]

Then she got to be copping on folding it.

[A]

No, I'm not going to lie. Yesterday, I was in so much pain, I was on my last oxy. I'm like, where can I get this? On the street, Dead ass.

[B]

See, that's how it happens. That's how the government gets you. That's how they get you addicted. Next thing you know, you behind 711 sucking dick for Oxy. See? See how fast it goes?

[A]

I feel like I have pretty. I can blink and get the Oxy. Like, I could just bat my eyelashes. I don't feel like I got to go all the way and, like, suck dick.

[B]

That'll work. That'll work a couple of times on a certain pill pushes. But then one of them times seem like, listen, them eyes, like some of them thighs, like, he ain't gonna keep fronting you no oxy just. Cause you blinking at him like, that ain't. That's gonna last two times, baby. D. And then it's over with. After that.

[C]

And a year into the oxys, you're not gonna look like this.

[B]

Yeah, no, no, you'll look completely. You won't need lipo360 after a year of binging oxys behind 7 11.

[A]

No, baby, I don't need it now. But I hear you.

[B]

No, you. I mean, you're right. You don't need a lipo360. You're absolutely right. But they're gonna be like, yo, is baby di. They're gonna start asking that next year around this time. If you go down that oxy hole.

[C]

Anytime you see Loner, anytime you hear that noise, dun dun. You know she just popped another one. That's how you know she relapsed. You just gotta look through her blinds like, damn, yo, she's gone.

[A]

I missed y', all, yo.

[B]

You did?

[A]

I really did.

[B]

Yes, we must. Missed us. We are back Sponsored by Boost Mobile. Unlimited talk, text and data. Welcome back, Baby D. Yes.

[C]

This MLK Day is sponsored by Empowered by Boost.

[B]

Yes. Yeah, I wasn't gonna come today on MLK Day.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Something just so wrong.

[A]

Working for the white man on MLK Day. That don't sit right in my spirit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Every black holiday, I'm here. Juneteenth, MLK Day, Black History Month. Like, I'm always here working for him.

[B]

Well, to be fair, MLK's birthday was Friday, wasn't it? His official birthday was Friday. We just observe it today. Right.

[C]

Just so we could get. Just so the post office could get a day off. Yeah, but, I mean, he did. This was his dream for equal rights at work.

[B]

He had a dream. His dream was that you would be back on his birthday.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

To talk to the beautiful people out there.

[C]

I don't know how the FBI got into my algorithms, but this morning, one of the first tweets I saw was FBI's Twitter account saying, today the FBI honors the life and work of the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. And reaffirms our commitment to fairness and equal justice for all. Hashtag MLK Day. We would not have MLK Day if the FBI did not murder this man.

[A]

I thought that was the CIA.

[C]

It was both.

[B]

Well, yeah, they had like a lunch together and decided it was time.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Hoover used to, like, publicly. It wasn't like they found some unredacted files. Hoover used to publicly say, we should murder this man.

[B]

Baby D, do you realize that in that picture right there, Martin Luther King, you are a year younger than he was?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

How crazy is that?

[A]

That is insane. They used to look real old back in the day.

[B]

How crazy is that? I think it was the haircuts.

[A]

He. So he was 32.

[C]

It's a mustache.

[B]

When he died, I think he was 33. My mistake.

[A]

That's a hard 33 club.

[B]

Yeah, I think he was 33.

[C]

Yeah. Everyone did just look older and sound older.

[B]

He was 39 when he died.

[C]

Oh. What? All right, like, the. Changes things a bit. He looked like a 39 year old, yo.

[B]

Did he?

[C]

For his era, for sure.

[B]

I thought he looked older than that. Cause that picture right there, I don't think he was 39.

[C]

But that's just. I feel like how we learned history, no matter what, those people just seem so much older than they were when we were learning.

[B]

And it was the fashion, too. You didn't really wear fashion.

[A]

The hairdo.

[B]

You didn't really wear sneakers back then.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You didn't really wear, you know, the things that people wear now. So everybody was like, every day you would just have on slacks and a shirt and tie, and it's like, yo, where you going? He's like, yo, I'm going to watch the game now.

[C]

35 year olds wear sweats to work.

[A]

Kids that are born now are gonna look at y' all and think like the same thing. Like, kids that are born now are gonna like, look at when they turn like 15, they can be like, oh, that's an old. He got God speed on. Yeah, like that's.

[B]

It's just because the trick they're gonna be wearing like just full, like, well, y' all weird now. Like the full bodysuits. But I believe everybody's gonna have to just wear bodysuits every day.

[A]

Like.

[B]

Like Total Recall. Remember Total Recall? Like, I think everybody got to dress like that. Yeah, I think that's gonna be the fashion. Like, everybody just got bodysuits on every day. Like, yo, he got on jeans. What he wearing? Like, y' all don't remember jeans?

[C]

That's definitely a Black Mirror episode that they're shooting right now.

[B]

Yeah, like, yo, he's wearing jeans. When was he born in the 1900s? He was born in the 1900s.

[A]

I hate when people say that. The 19, like when the young kids were like, yeah, she was born in 1900s, yo. What? Or they could like call me auntie. Auntie.

[B]

Get auntie. Now.

[A]

Auntie still snatch that 23 year old nigga you with. You might want to relax.

[B]

No, we all had aunties like that. You remember your auntie that was like that when you was 14, that you was like, auntie, how old is your new boo? Nigga was in there fresh out of high school. I was watching Juice the other day. Q was fucking that grown ass nurse. Y' all gotta ask Omar about that. Like, yo, who wrote that? You was in high school? Your chick was a nurse. Like, she was a grown ass woman owned apartment, had her ex husband there, like, picking up his clothes when you went there. Like, this nigga was in high school.

[C]

And at no point did anyone call that woman a predator at all. And what was so funny? Her ex husband that came up to pick his shit up wasn't mad that his wife was fucking a teenager.

[B]

It was his name.

[C]

It was that his name.

[B]

His name was gq. It's gq.

[C]

At no point did he be like, listen, we're done. So what you do is your business. This is a child.

[B]

Yo, that was every time. Every time I look at that Movie. I'm like, yo, this is crazy. He had a grown ass girlfriend.

[A]

That happens a lot, though. Them old be getting them young.

[B]

High school, though.

[A]

That is. They're nasty.

[C]

I mean, I don't know if this stat, but there's a large group of men that lost their virginity to older women.

[A]

Most men lost their virginity to older women.

[B]

Yeah, well, I guess that's true. All right, well, because y' all don't.

[A]

Realize there's anything wrong with it.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, if you're asking me, there's nothing wrong with it.

[C]

Yeah, like, he was the man.

[B]

If I was in high school and the older one wanted to give me. No, nobody better not have said nothing. Anybody. Shut up and mind your business.

[A]

She need to go to jail.

[B]

We in love. I'd have been the whole would say we in love. I love Miss Mary.

[C]

She gave me lunch money and everything y' all got. You got to think about qq, skipping school, being a dj, having an older woman. Like, he didn't need. He. He had so much time on his hands, he just decided to rob a store. They didn't need that. He had a whole apartment with a 35 year old queen.

[B]

I don't think she was that old. I think she might have been like mid-20s, though.

[C]

Yeah, well, I don't even know how we got on on that topic.

[B]

I was just watching Juice the other day.

[C]

All right, Jamaris, we didn't get like your full cold take. I don't want to drag out a whole nother episode on one song, but, I mean, I know this was a really big moment for you, and we have the date. Do you have any more from the song that you took? Did you start maybe writing your life in reverse as maybe a writing exercise?

[A]

I didn't want to depress myself.

[C]

A cold challenge.

[A]

No, I didn't want to depress.

[B]

The challenge. Yo, let's pod in reverse. Do we have voicemails?

[C]

You gotta start with. Can you do your tagline in reverse?

[B]

I'm that. He's just Ginger. Do we have voicemail?

[C]

And Demer started her story on like the surgery table would be. That's just a dark way.

[B]

Yeah, you gotta rhyme from the surgery table.

[A]

Nah. Rory, that should be our next chapter.

[C]

Turn off the Olivia Benson. Yeah, no, I can see your whole. Yeah, we gotta unpop the oxy. Let's pop her hair, go back to black.

[B]

Oh, man, I'm sorry, baby. They don't think I'm hating if I laugh too hard. So go ahead, baby.

[A]

Nah, but let's let's do that. Rory, for our next writing challenge, do it, like, write our lives in reverse. Let's.

[C]

Well, let's pick a topic to do in reverse.

[B]

Why you.

[A]

Why you want to write your life in it?

[C]

We're not that interesting. Like, it should be a funny topic.

[A]

I feel like your life is interesting enough to write in reverse.

[B]

It's.

[C]

It's been. It's on document for 10. Just. Just literally go on SoundCloud and hit reverse.

[B]

Start with this episode and go back.

[C]

I'll give you my RSS feed and you can just put it in reverse.

[A]

I have your RSS feed. You don't have your RSS feed. I have your RSS feed.

[C]

But, yeah, it's. It's been a weekend. The world got to live with the song. Dissect it. Is it. Is it the greatest piece of literature that's ever existed or what?

[A]

I think it's. I think it's really good. I think it's a really good song, and I think it took a lot of talent to write it, but I'm looking forward to the rest of the album. I think it was a great little Lucy to drop it.

[C]

I'm with you. I'm with you. I did see people coming up with the theory, instead of this being a double disc, that we would be getting maybe a mixtape this week and then the second disc is the album on February 6th.

[A]

I don't think that. I think, if anything, it'll be a triple disc. I don't think it'll be that.

[C]

See, this is. Now we just throwing.

[B]

This is where I start sounding like I hate Jermaine when I see. Don't say it's a triple disc. It better not be no triple disc. Nobody wants a triple dis.

[A]

30 songs. I don't think that that's too much. I don'. 30 songs with. I don't want interludes is Too Much from JCOLE.

[B]

Yeah, 30 songs is from anybody.

[C]

Chris Brown, 75. Every. Every.

[B]

Too Much. It's too much. It's too much. We don't. Everybody has ADHD. No artist should be putting out 30 songs. I don't care how great of artist.

[C]

You don't see how many cold fans are. Are more intelligent.

[A]

If we get five. If we get five interludes and it's. So that's 25 full songs. Too much. I don't think that that's too much.

[B]

I don't want 25 songs.

[A]

I don't.

[C]

I'm here for 25 songs from Jiggle.

[B]

Y' all are fucking psychos wrote 25 songs is crazy.

[C]

There's a few artists I would want it from, but. Yeah, Colby one.

[A]

Yeah. I don't have any inside information. That's just like a hope and a dream, I don't think, or like what you.

[C]

That's what you saw off the Oxy.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I thought.

[C]

You envisioned that like. It's disc three and more.

[A]

That's not fair. Because, you know, not just first album that came to mind. I remember for all the Dogs being long as. And then the deluxe made it even longer. The deluxe made it 29 songs.

[B]

All right, now stop right there. Don't. Don't respond. This is my camera. Peach. I did not bring that man's name.

[A]

I did. No, I did, because.

[B]

No, they always put. They always saying. I'm bringing it up. When he talk about J. Cole.

[A]

I did. And it's not because of jcole in comparison to J. Cole. It's because I had to think of an artist that you like that dropped a long album. For all the Dogs is the first album I thought of because I remember for all the Dogs being long. So that's why I thought. And then also having a deluxe, that's.

[B]

Too long as well. So I'm on the same side of all that shit. I feel like all of that is too much. I understand it, though. Especially when you talk about streaming. You gotta play those games. You gotta. Cause it's a streaming error now. So the longer you keep people listening to an album, the better your streams look. So I get that. So it's not the artist's fault.

[C]

Well, if you split it up properly, like Scorpion, like I said, isn't the highest in my discography. But it didn't feel long because he split it into two discs. And one is rap, one is R and B. So if. If Cole gives us that amount and splits it properly, where it feels like two separate projects in one album, I don't think it's gonna feel like 25 straight records.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

And that's why sometimes double disc.

[B]

The length of the song, too, helps. If the songs. If you have a bunch of songs that are a minute, 42 minutes, then I understand this.

[C]

This era. That's why I think it's funny. I understand that guys put more songs because the streaming era, but it'll be 28 songs on your album, and it's 49 minutes. Somebody like Playboy Carti's album, I think is about 10 minutes.

[B]

Just vibes.

[C]

I'm like, yo, how did this add up to this? Yeah, but yeah, we, we like the record. There was one topic and we don't have to drag it because we did give two episodes on Cole. We never got to this the subject of him saying in that record I was signed to the so called rap king. In regards to usurp. Yeah. Where. Where do you guys stand on that? Because I think definitely split with people saying he's taking a shot.

[A]

I think it's so obvious what he's saying. If you're rapping in reverse and rapping about your mindset and rapping about. He's not rapping in his current mindset. None of that. None of that song is. This is my current mindset. This is, this is my mindset when I was in this place. Like he said, I plan to hear so one of the current so called rap kings. I plan to your you sir. Like I plan to take this spot. Like that's young.

[C]

I know. He's even saying first you said, I think I was signed to my hero. The so called rap. Yeah, but why do you think he said so cold rap king in that regard?

[A]

I don't. I don't know. I really don't know. But I don't think it was a shot.

[C]

I have a very nerdy take of. Of that. I don't think it was a shot at all. I think it plays into the theme. It must be so mad of like I'm. I'm gonna sound like one of those cold fans that is giving so much credit.

[A]

You are one of those cold fans. Go ahead.

[C]

So much deep thought into something that probably is a very surface level bar at the end of the day. I think it ties into the theme of the fall off because around the time that Cole signed to HOV was around Blueprint 3. He was even on Stars Born. Blueprint 3 to Magna Carta era. That was the time that I remember people started being like, man, whole falling off.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So I think he's. He's speaking more so of what fans were saying of artists getting to that point in their career of so called King. Like I think it was more so what the fans perspective of HOV was at that time.

[A]

I agree.

[C]

That's why it was his childhood hero. Of like, how could you not think HOV is the greatest? That was around the time that people were like, all right, man, I don't know. That was Blueprint three. Wasn't really it for me. Maybe he's Magna Carta, yo. He's really out of touch. He's just rapping about shit. I don't understand I can't afford $10 million art pieces. I can't relate to this. So I think it was more so in his timeline where HOV was at in his career where the public thought like, no matter what you do, you're still going to be called the so called King. You could behove in 2009 and people will still be like, so called king. I think it just, it plays into the fall off theme of everything and where Hov was at in the timeline Cole was rapping about then. Because I think honestly, where the whole Avengers and HOV stands here, it wasn't really till 444. Did HOV win a lot of people back musically? A lot of average fans that aren't from New York were definitely questioning a bit.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

After Magna Carta, like, no, he's still. He's still a goat. But like, I don't really need anything.

[A]

From that was kind of in his. I used to argue a lot with people. I remember these arguments being younger when people started saying he was unrelatable. They had said he had made so much money that he started rapping like, I can't relate to him anymore. I don't know what the fuck he's talking about a lot with Magna Carta. After Magna Carta came out and I was just like, well, learn something.

[C]

And then thank. Thank God Watch the Throne was what it was as well. Because obviously that was like. And I like Magna Carta, don't get me wrong. But I was also one of those people. Like, I also don't know what the. I can't really relate to anything. It just sounds great though.

[A]

If the first time. The first time I figured out what the time for was was from the song Tom Ford. And guess what? I learned something. Thank you for letting me. Thank you for making me flyer Hov.

[C]

Like I like. Like that at that time where my bank account was like, all I want is a Picasso. No, all I want is lunch. Like, I can't relate to nothing you saying right now.

[B]

All I want is a taco.

[A]

But I never understood that. I never understood people's need for relatability. Even like in. When I watch content now, so many people are like, you know, when it comes to content creators, they're like, this person has become unrelatable. Like, at first they were relatable and then they became very successful in content creating because they were so relatable. And now like they got an induction stove and y'. All don't you. You can't see the burners. On a stove. Now you say you can't relate to them anymore. And it's like, why do y'. All. I never understood the need relatability. The people that I like watching or the content that I like consuming are people that I can't relate to. I like people who are so much richer than me than they're showing me some. I didn't.

[C]

Well, there. There needs to be a bounce there because music, and I wouldn't say entertainment all the way, but music specifically hits you in a certain type of way. Relatability connects you more to it. Whereas. But also, like, could I relate to anything on Get Rich or Die Trying? No.

[A]

That's what. But that's what I'm saying.

[C]

It was entertaining and. And great. Like. But I didn't feel that type of way. But hove somebody. Yes. I can't really relate to anything on Reasonable Doubt. But Hov wasn't just selling drugs in his music. Like, there's human level.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Throughout his entire career that isn't about money, selling drugs, buying out the bar. Like, there's relatable in there.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

People were saying at that point, Magna Carta. All you're talking about literally is material items.

[A]

True.

[C]

Even though that isn't really the case. That was the consensus. I feel like what the masses thought after that.

[B]

So just to be clear, we feel like Cole didn't take a shot.

[C]

I don't think he took a shot.

[A]

Oh, thank you for circling back, ma. That was great of you. I don't think it was a shot. No, you feel like it was a shot.

[B]

I'm not gonna say a shot because I don't think J. Cole's that stupid. But I feel like it was an honest feeling he may have had, like, you know, but I'm not gonna say shot. Cause shot makes it seem like he wants that problem with Jay and he doesn't. But I feel like it was just an honest, you know, feeling that he had at one point, like so called rap king. You know what I mean? But.

[C]

But why do you think he would feel that at that time in his career when he signed?

[A]

Well, he also said hero right before it. That was my hero signed to his.

[C]

Hero, the so called rap king. Why do you think he would feel that in 09, 2010, 2011?

[B]

Oh, I don't know why he would feel that. But again, I'm just of, you know, people starting this, you know, thing online where they're saying, oh, he took a shot at Jay. I'm not gonna say it was a shot, but I do feel like, you know what he said he meant that like it was probably a real feeling that he had at that time. Like Jay is a so called rap king. And then I, you know, then there's a weird space in there too where I don't know if that's necessarily disrespectful. Like even if you say so called goat so called, you know, I don't know if that's disrespectful to say so called rap king or so called.

[C]

But usually so called is said in kind of a condescending.

[B]

I get what.

[C]

Yeah, condescending way.

[B]

Right. But I just don't know if that's like a shot or. You know what I mean? I don't put that emphasis on it. I don't think it's a shot. Now. Jay could hear that bar and his ear perk up like what he talking about. But I don't think that he takes that like Jay don't like Cole don't think that he's one of the greats or nothing like that. I don't think it's that type of shot. I don't think it's disrespect intended or trying to say that Jay isn't a rap God or something like that. I just feel like that was just an emotion he may have had at that time. Like you said, he's writing it from his perspective. So I just think that was an honest emotion he had behind Jay's career at that point.

[A]

I think Jay is very much like Cole when it comes to the way that his brain works and the way that they use. The way they rap basically and use words to tell a story. I think Jay knew exactly what the Cole was saying and I, I think it aligns a lot with what Rory is. I'm sure Jay heard that the first time he got it. Now I'm sure he looking at on the Internet because Jay do be on the Internet. Look at it and like I don't know what these talking about. Like I'm sure Jay got it the first time. That's my, my take on it. I think Jay looks at it the way Rory does, honestly.

[C]

And I'm sure I'll have heard that before we heard it.

[A]

Yeah, also that sure.

[C]

That was emailed to him well before and I'm sure he replied with this is fire.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But yeah, I'm excited. I hope we get some more records before the 6th. I hope it's not just this. And then we wait like I hope he keeps putting out music I like that type of rollout.

[A]

Yeah, I do. I have been thinking about how you said that you think we might get a bop, and I would really appreciate. Like, that's got me, like, my wheels turning in my head about it. And if I. If it was some. That I could stand on a club couch and scream like, when it came. That would make me very happy with Cole. I need that. I haven't had that in a very long time.

[B]

I don't know why y' all think that. I don't think that's even his thought or approach with this. This album.

[A]

I don't think it's his approach either. But I would like one.

[C]

The. One of the snippets, the one that.

[A]

Came out after the. The disc two, track two.

[C]

Yeah, that.

[A]

That.

[C]

That's potential box. I don't know where they're going with it. It had a little potential bopness to it.

[B]

You talking about just the music? Yeah. Okay.

[C]

Yeah. Like something that could play when you're outside, when you're at Mirror doing your.

[B]

Thing, the place will never see me again. And you know that's doing your thing. Don't tell me I'm gonna be.

[A]

You just told me that was a bunch of fine women in there all out hanging out with their girlfriends and. No, and you ain't gonna be back.

[B]

Oh, yeah, I'm not going back. I don't. You know, I don't go out. I don't go to places.

[A]

Say he'll go out, but yet every.

[C]

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[B]

When is the last time I was out before that? Let's watch this. I don't know.

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[A]

Last month when one of the other homeboys was in town.

[B]

That's not that she's just making up. I was none of my homeboys was in town last month. Now you just make she freestyle. Look how fast she stuff.

[A]

You know I don't really be like paying attention to you like that. But you did say at one point didn't he say he went out sometime last in December maybe. I remember.

[B]

You know I didn't say that. You don't have to agree with her. I did not say I went out.

[C]

You may have went out. I don't know.

[B]

No, I'll tell you when I go. Oh no.

[A]

You told me you went on a date.

[B]

I definitely last month that I don't remember. Yeah, like what did she the matter stop freestyling though. I didn't never tell you.

[A]

My bad. That was off my.

[C]

Is that consider going out? I guess it depends the date.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Going out with me Is going out, we out. We outside. If we going on a date, we outside.

[B]

I can't do it.

[C]

The other cities do that. Like in New York, if you go on a date, you're going to seven spots and coming home at 4am on a date? Yeah.

[B]

Damn. Seven spots on a day. You like her for real?

[C]

I gotta find out.

[B]

Take it to seven different spots.

[C]

Not in this.

[A]

It's usually three. It used to be three, like, three, seven different spots. Devin is a lot, but it used to be like, three. Three spots.

[C]

Is it summertime and you're in Brooklyn?

[A]

Oof.

[C]

Five minimum.

[B]

I don't know about that.

[A]

My last date, but I went like.

[B]

Four people on a date, five spots.

[C]

You start out, maybe you guys do brunch for the date, and then you have the whole day. Yeah. All right, there's a barbecue here. Let's go here. All right.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

So there's this spot.

[B]

Hold on. You said brunch. Mm, barbecue. What are we going after that?

[C]

Probably a day bar.

[A]

Cause it'd be multiple day parties.

[B]

Barbecue to a day party is absolutely not happening.

[C]

Why?

[B]

Y' all see what.

[C]

Those can be in reverse, too. In New York summers, like, there could be the day party you go to. You could do Sons of Essex and be like, yo, there's a barbecue at night in Brooklyn and we don't wanna go home.

[A]

So let's just. We gonna bar hop. We gonna stop at this homie house. We gonna. Niggas just be outside. Especially if you like.

[B]

No, no, no. Y' all changing it. And when you're young, be outside. I'm talking about a date where you taking a woman that you're talking to. Y' all going on a date. You telling me y' all going to five different spots in one day?

[A]

I think the most I've ever done on a. On a first day. I did like, three, four in New York.

[C]

If that first meal goes good. Yeah, come with me, because I don't want to.

[A]

I'm not going home with you, but I don't want to leave you. Yeah, that's usually what that is. Like. I'm not going home with you, but I don't want to leave you. And we're having mad fun. Fun. So. Yeah, well, let's go to dinner then. We're gonna stop, go smoke hookah somewhere. Get another. Like, get a little drink. Like. Yeah, you move.

[C]

End up on. On some Brooklyn rooftop.

[B]

Three spots is okay.

[A]

I feel like three. Three is good for like five.

[B]

What are we doing? We're in a relationship now. We just trying.

[A]

That's fun, though. That's fun. But, ma, you don't have the patience. You don't have patience.

[B]

Three spots I could do with a woman easily. I can. We can hit three spot five. What are we doing, and what time is it?

[C]

Get back at 4. And usually those dates are not even ones that are set up to, like. You'll be exhausted if you're going to five spots. You guys are just having a good time. She gonna be slumping the Uber by.

[B]

Five spots in one day is crazy. Like, it's like with y'. All. Barbecue to a day party. Stop freestyling. Nobody's going to the. The day party is the barbecue. Nobody's going to a barbecue. Like, yo, they having a. They having. What's the day party? We love. Is it all my. My people? What is it?

[C]

Oh, everyday people.

[B]

Everyday people. Ain't nobody. Ain't nobody going to a barbecue. They're going to everyday people. That don't happen.

[C]

I 100 went from everyday people to a barbecue. That was, like, a couple blocks away.

[A]

Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. I've been to I Everyday people is the barbecue. I don't went from Duse Palooza to another barbecue.

[C]

Yeah, I've done that. And I was working.

[B]

Y' all are crazy.

[A]

Them threw a boat party after Duse.

[C]

Palooza, and then we just collapsed and we went out again after. After they docked the boat. There's been plenty of times where I've hit three spots and like it. We'll go to Lot 45 at midnight.

[B]

Y' all are crazy. I'm not doing five spots in one day.

[A]

And then we got. You got to end it with a strip club. Strip club is the last spot of the night.

[C]

That's the person I hate in the crew.

[B]

All right, so.

[C]

So, yo, it's guys. It's clip. Nope, nope, nope.

[B]

All right, so walk me through that. Five spots on a date. How do y' all then. Like, how does the night end? Like, how does it end? After going to five spots with somebody? You just spent, let's say, 12 hours with this person.

[C]

It takes one brave soul to be like, nah, we not doing that.

[B]

No, no, I'm talking about just you and the lady that you with. How does that night end?

[C]

Well, usually after you're linking with people, like, you know, people at those spots, and then your crew just gets added on. Personally, you get bigger and bigger.

[B]

I get that part, but you start.

[C]

Is 2 and end is 13.

[B]

Cool.

[A]

And then some people. Some people from that or Some people from the first link started dropping off. Yeah, like it's.

[C]

Or some people from the first link end up meeting you at the fifth one because they went somewhere else and then they picked up two other people. So yes, our friends are good for that too.

[B]

I understand all of that. I'm talking about the woman that you went on a date with. How do y' all end your night?

[C]

Usually just going to sleep. She'll either go home, we'll go our separate ways or we'll go and literally go to sleep. Yeah, like nobody's giving rounds after.

[B]

If I'm taking you to five spots and you done met my homies, my home girls and we've been out 13 hours. We've been outside. You not going, going home, you coming home with me.

[C]

It was so bad at one point.

[B]

We've been together, now we just gonna go home. Except go our separate ways. Either I'm leaving here with something Netflix.

[A]

Like we just Netflix.

[B]

Y' all crazy. I'm not going to rub bellies after.

[C]

It's just not going to be like a exciting time. It's gonna be a. Hey, I'm very tired.

[A]

No, that's when you see, that's when y'. All, by that time, y' all get so drunk and so tired, y' all just go home and fall asleep. Y' all wake up in the morning and have the best sexy. Yeah, you wake up at. At 5, 6am and have the best sex of your life.

[C]

But you going home when that start creeping.

[A]

Yeah, you go home and you.

[B]

It sound like we didn't get home till 5 o'.

[A]

Clock.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

What you mean? We go to sleep, wake up at five o'. Clock.

[A]

See, I don't like doing that at night. I like doing that during the day. Same like we done went out to brunch starting at 12 o' clock and then we out till 6pm yeah, I'm on that side.

[B]

I'm not mad at that. That's what I, that I'm not mad at. But that don't even sound like five spots. Cuz we got the brunch at 12. Right. One we did for about two, two and a half hours.

[A]

Who is at brunch for two and.

[C]

A half hours now we're efficient.

[B]

The right spot, you must be at Woodland. No, the spot. If you in the right spot. Nice restaurant, good vibe, good food. Yeah, you could be there for two hours for sure.

[C]

Brunch tables in Dyman have like a eight hour time frame.

[B]

Yeah, like you, you could go to a nice Spot and be there for two hours easily.

[A]

Yeah, but I not if we plan on doing other. We gonna be here for like an hour, hour and a half max. Go to the next spot. We got some people meeting us at.

[B]

The end of the. About 30 minutes. He said an hour and a half max. All right, so cut me by. Cut me by 30 minutes. Cool. 2:30. Where we going from there? Everyday people. How long we had everyday people for three.

[A]

Now you got a pregame before everyday people. So you gonna pregame before.

[B]

We just left brunch, but I'm not talking about.

[A]

Okay, but it's 12 o'.

[B]

Clock.

[C]

I'm not social engagement.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm not saying you gotta take a whole bunch of shots, but like maybe whatever friend lives closest to everyday people, we gonna go to their spot. Brunch was great. I'm texting the group chat like, oh, she went cool, she's coming with me. Then everyone clowns. You says that's your girl. This and that. You walk in, yo, we heard so much about you. This is the one.

[B]

Like, all right, what time is it now?

[A]

Now that's two. That's two o'. Clock. When we pregame and we go to everyday people at 3. So we there chilling. So already by the time we get everyday people we had.

[C]

And we were. So we get right in.

[B]

So we.

[C]

We don't even wait.

[B]

So we had everyday people for what, two hours? Three hours?

[C]

Yeah, three.

[B]

So it's what, six o' clock now? Six, seven. All right, then what?

[C]

Then we got to get some food.

[B]

Yep. Gotta eat again.

[C]

Okay, we gotta get some food.

[B]

So now it's dinner.

[C]

Now we're going to. What's the pizza spot? He played NFS with this.

[B]

So we're going to get pizza, not dinner.

[C]

Cuts and slices.

[B]

Cuts and slices. It Roberto's, Roberto's, Roberto's. Wherever y' all want to go.

[A]

Having a couple glasses of wine at Roberto's with a shot.

[B]

So no food. We going to drink again? No, we gonna have must say we just did brunch. We do it to the homies house. Pregame. Everyday people, we definitely drink there.

[A]

And then we got food. But somebody buy a round of shots for the. This is what shit get out of hand. Because you're no longer ordering drinks. The people that you done picked up with and that you running into the spot N is like, yo, I just bound a round of shots and you over like, yo, bro, I can't, I can't, I can't do it. No more shots. I'm drunk. You still drinking. So now your liquor don't re up. You don't recharge the liquor because that one shot just plugged the battery in and reactivated all the other shots you had science. So now you reactivated again. You like I fucking niggas like, yo, we out. We out to the next spot. Next thing you know, you at Saharis. Next thing you know, you at fucking the Strip. Like, it just. It just moves. You never. You don't know. That's. That's how the night gets away with you. When you with a baddie.

[B]

I'm just trying to create a timeline.

[A]

When you with a baddie.

[B]

Y' all just naming spots. And they telling me what time we going to these spots.

[C]

We done with dinner? Seven.

[A]

Seven.

[B]

Done with dinner at seven?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That don't even match up to what we were just talking about.

[A]

You said we leaving everyday people at 6. We going to getting pizza. Yeah. 7, 7:15, 7:30.

[B]

Then what? This way it gets tricky. Then what we doing?

[A]

It depends on who got the most motion. What live show is crazy. Leon Thomas in town. Rory got his tickets.

[B]

Fuck out of here. That's not a real day, man.

[A]

That is a real day. That's a real New York.

[B]

Ain't never went to brunch. Pre game at your man crib. Go to Everyday People, go get dinner, and then go see Leon Thomas. That has never happened.

[C]

My stomach hurts. Look at peace. We lived a decade like this, bro.

[B]

Y' all are lying, dog. Nobody has done.

[A]

What I'll say is that I don't live like that.

[C]

Underselling.

[A]

I don't live like that in my 30s, but 20s.

[C]

In my 20s, I live like that.

[A]

I definitely live.

[C]

It wasn't every day. It was like a Saturday. You would do it it like every time. This wasn't Monday through Sunday, bro.

[A]

When me and Rory go out, me and Rory hit three spots alone.

[B]

And that ain't my home on stage, huh? What time is Leon on stage?

[A]

Leon go. He opener is at 8. So we get there 8:15, 8:30. Leon come out at 9.

[B]

All right, bet. So at 9, Leon is on then what? Leon is on for about an hour.

[C]

So after party? Yeah, Leon has an after party in the venue, and then he also has one at another venue after. And Austin is doing the Oculus at 2am This a new York City summer, Mom.

[B]

That's not possible. That's not.

[C]

I promise you. We used to do this religiously.

[A]

He said, that ain't real, yo.

[C]

Now it's so much more fun than people that Just go to the club all night.

[A]

We gotta do it for Patreon. We gotta try to hit six spots for Patreon.

[C]

Yo, one of the nastiest days that I did that. Damaris has photo evidence of me holding a Bel Air rose bottle that she always puts in the chat to laugh at me. We had a flag football game in Dyckman, Inwood Park. We all got in Cavs and went from Dyckman to Bed Stuy to a day party. Ass is stinking in our uniforms.

[B]

Stinking. Just stinking the spot up.

[C]

Then stayed at the day party, did two barbecues, and I don't even know what the time I made it home and then I think we did the DL that night.

[A]

No, we went to the house, then.

[C]

We went to house.

[B]

Nobody took a shower from the football game.

[C]

Nah.

[B]

Stinking niggas just walking to every spot. Funky stinking niggas got turf stains on them. Yeah, stinking. Y' all are crazy.

[A]

Drinking smell like Bel Air and turf and ass.

[B]

Y' all look crazy as fuck.

[C]

But I mean, we got fucking.

[B]

I've definitely had some nights where we go out early. One, two o' clock, and I don't get home till about two in the morning. I've definitely done. Yeah, but we ain't hit five spots. We was in one spot for like six hours and the next spot for like four hours.

[C]

I mean, shit, Mo, when you came to Dallas with us for Palooza, we did that. We stayed like an extra day and just went to like six spots in Dallas.

[B]

I don't remember that.

[C]

Went to day parties, went to dinners.

[B]

Well, no. Well, yes. That's like. That's. But that was a Sunday, right?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. So that's what you do on a Sunday. You go out early, you just hit a couple spots. And I'm not hitting five. I didn't hit five spots, I'll tell you that.

[C]

Me and Styles did.

[B]

No, I'm not doing five spots. Not me. Can't do it.

[A]

Well, people been reminiscing on the 2016. That was. Those was 2016 days.

[C]

100%. 2016 days.

[B]

What is that about?

[C]

I just caught. It was a year, man.

[A]

It was a year.

[B]

Is it like the 10 year anniversary? That's why.

[C]

Yeah, it's just for some reason. And I. I guess just by pure statistics, I feel like everyone I've ever met has never had a complaint like, about 2016. Like, everyone had a good year. I think it was the last year that everyone was like, yo, that year was great, man.

[B]

Damn, that was the last year, everybody.

[C]

Felt everything kind of started to go. 2017, 2018, everything was. It was cool, but wasn't like summer 16. It wasn't like that. And then 2020 hit. And I mean, now we just live in the Matrix. But yeah, 2016, at least for people in my age group, that was like. It was a year for us that.

[A]

I was doing collectively, I was doing that. Going through them pictures and think about my memories. I stopped and letting the same piss me off for a decade. That crazy as same Been pissed. Pissed me off in 2016, pissed me off yesterday. That shit is crazy.

[B]

I like, see, I with that. At least you being honest.

[A]

Yeah. Like, that shit, like. And I be over here like, nah, I grow every year, Ma. I grow every year. Same nigga pissing me off.

[B]

Same n that shit.

[C]

She accidentally posting pictures from this year. 2016. Drink.

[B]

Yo, that. You know why that's funny? We only three weeks into this year.

[A]

Like, fuck that shit.

[C]

And you, You've been in the hospital for most of them.

[A]

That's why I.

[B]

She said she only did three things, and she be going. I know she lying. That right there tells me you lying.

[A]

No, it's not. No, it ain't. Cuz when you in the house and when you're in the house and you're in the house alone, you ain't got to do but think.

[B]

You start thinking just like me when you locked up. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Like dead ass. Like, I'm sitting here. I can't move. I can't walk. I'm just sitting up there, like, thinking.

[B]

Start hitting. Yeah. Calling you, calling you.

[A]

I'm, like, pissing me off. Like. Yeah, I can't let the same piss me off for 10 years straight.

[B]

That's crazy.

[C]

I'm going out.

[B]

Terrible, man, that is some funny.

[C]

That's a marriage. Like, you married it.

[B]

Yeah, that's definitely a marriage. Like, that's your husband. That ain't your. Dang. Your boyfriend. That's your husband. Your husband on the phone.

[A]

I'm cool, but I did. I also bought the red hair back in honor of 2016. That was my.

[B]

That was in honor, yo.

[C]

Honoring 16 is hilarious.

[B]

Yo, Damaris, what is wrong with you?

[C]

Standing in solitude between.

[B]

Yeah, what is wrong with you, dog?

[A]

Yeah, we bringing that back, too.

[B]

I don't know, man. Maybe I'm weird, but the pandemic was lit, man. I don't know about y'. All. Anywhere outside of New York did not close down at all. A lot of people don't know what the pandemic was I'm telling y' all that.

[C]

No, no.

[B]

Like, people that live in Georgia, people that live in Texas, people that live in Florida, they do not know anything. Like New Yorkers and California knew during the pandemic.

[C]

They only found out when they got to the airport. Airport. They're like, oh, something's going on. Yeah, like, something going on.

[B]

That was not. That did not affect some people at all.

[C]

Like, they would say, like, I gotta wear a mask in the airport.

[B]

Damn, that shit was lit, man. I ain't gonna lie. I enjoyed traveling a little bit and going to different cities and seeing everybody completely still. Just like, that was like, a fun time for me. I really. And then in New York, like, I'm always home, so I didn't really. I didn't really feel nothing during the pandemic. We spoke about that because obviously we were still potting. But, yeah, yeah, the pandemic wasn't as bad as people make it seem.

[C]

Well, a lot of people died.

[B]

People die every year, B.

[A]

They'd be all right.

[B]

They'd be all right. They die every year, man.

[A]

Have y'. All.

[C]

They're dead.

[A]

Have y' all listened to Don't Be Dumb asap?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I don't know if I liked that reply. Right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The room got silent as fuck.

[B]

Asked if I listened to it.

[A]

Okay. Did you like it?

[B]

I did. I thought the music was really good. I like the energy on there. The production was great. I mean, I'm never gonna really love Rocky's rapping. I don't think that's what you listen to Rocky for. But the music was good.

[C]

Good.

[B]

I definitely got some joints on there. There's some ST Walker. His verse on that. That Stop Snitching joint is hard.

[C]

He went off.

[B]

I love, like, Sauce Walk his style. Like, he went off. Yeah. Like, the album was good, though. I was. I was actually, like, pleasantly surprised at how good I. How much I enjoyed listening to it.

[A]

The music was really a hit.

[C]

I got a little bit small. Your flow will probably play outside because.

[B]

The music, like, music is good.

[C]

Good. I was quiet, cuz I didn't want to come in here and like, y' all clown me. I think it's great.

[B]

Oh, you think it's great.

[C]

I was so pleasantly surprised. Not that I went in thinking that it was going to be trash, but I didn't go in with expectations. Maybe the way I'll go into the fall off.

[B]

Right.

[C]

The product. The first half of this album is incredible. He starts to experiment a little bit in the middle to end, but I'm not even mad at that. And then the end of it is. Is incredible. Yeah. Like, I need to go through at least, like, some of the credits. Who produced this album? Every beat on this is better than any beat I've heard all of last year. Oh, you know, the production on the album.

[B]

Fucking, that's the first thing. Like, I haven't really lived with it enough to really get into, you know, the lyrics and the words like that. But the music and the flows and things like that on the records is definitely, like, the music is, to me, stood out. Like, it sounds the me. The album sounds good, and I'm with Mo.

[C]

I never, like, looked at Rocky as, like, some super lyricist. I don't even think he would say that he's. That he's more about making a great record. It's some of the best rapping he's ever done. I love all the raps on it, too. This is the best Rocky album probably since the first one.

[B]

I feel like that I'm not just listening to the music. I feel like that. Like, it's definitely the best sound, the best music he's had in a very long time. Without a.

[C]

Though there's not a. Even the experimental is great. There's not a whack beat on this project. Everything is flawless production.

[B]

All right, idk, you might be tripping with this one, though.

[C]

First, IDK is my guy. He tweeted Rocky in the new Big three. Hate to love it you my guy, but nah, we with you but my guy, man.

[B]

Yeah, but nah, you know, you.

[C]

I just spoke to idk. I said, next time he's in New York, he should come on the show. Nah, Rocky, if you want to get into, like, influence. We've talked about this before, though. Rocky has a lot of kids out here. If you're saying, like, Big three off strictly influence and where you see their DNA, you could put Rocky in that type of context.

[B]

Well, hold on, hold on.

[C]

Big Three. No, he's not.

[B]

Hold on. Okay, so that's what I say. So who's the new Big Three?

[A]

Also, I think Rocky's been away for too long, and he's had a career for too long to be in the new Big Three. Who would the new Big three be?

[B]

Right?

[C]

Right. Yeah. I don't know.

[B]

Who? I don't know.

[A]

Because I thought people considered the new Big Three to be, like, Tyler. Oh, if that's the case, then Rocky and Tyler. Tyler Travis and like, who? Like Playboy Cardi.

[C]

But Playboy Cardi is those.

[B]

Is all his son's Races.

[A]

Not Tyler, but definitely the other two.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, Stolia Flow is a, is about Trappist being my son. Yeah. So I mean, but I mean, hold.

[B]

On, because I love Tyler. But I could see a little Rocky influence in Tyler, though.

[C]

I always felt like the ASAP crew and Odd Future were perfect, like mirrors of the kids from those cities at that time. Like ASAP was a perfect. I don't say metaphor, but like if you just looked up what Harlem was at that time, those kids would be the picture in dictionary. And if you're looking at more of the alternative underground, things are switching from just gangster rap in LA to other shit. That whole Odd Future collective was that they're mirrors of each other in different coasts. So no, I wouldn't say that they're. Tyler is Rocky's son at all in that regard.

[B]

Not his son, but I'm saying the influence, I could see some of Rocky's influence.

[C]

I think I, I, I hear some of Tyler's influence in the production on this project. I think they're friends that influence each other for sure.

[B]

But so what you're saying to me, again, I haven't lived with the album enough yet to really get into the raps like that as far as the lyrics, but music, the music. This is definitely some of the best music that I've heard from Rocky in a very long time. The album sounds really good.

[C]

It's. And again, I'm only like three listens in, but I can't think of a. Outside of the Clips album, I haven't had like a good in the car album in a long time. This album is perfect for riding in the car. Like if you just need something to put on and it's gonna sound good throughout the entire time, no matter what type of speakers you have while you're driving, traffic, highway, anywhere. This is the album for you. It's a perfect driving album.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I think Rocky over delivered on this. It's, it's such a good album.

[B]

The music is good. I ain't gonna lie. Definitely listen to the music. It's definitely, you know, his best music in a very, in a very long time.

[C]

And it's a double, It's a double disc.

[B]

Yeah, it is. I love it. But the second disc is only like, it's like two songs in a video, I think, I think on the second disc, like, so I don't know if.

[C]

It'S double disc, but I'm on Apple Music, which it. Between Apple Music and Spotify is the prime distribution of the music. Industry. I see disc one and I see disc two. So now we have to compare fall off versus yo, which dish you like better?

[B]

You don't have to do that.

[C]

Making double two songs is nuts.

[B]

Crazy. But he got. He got his double. He got his double double cd.

[C]

Yeah, he's up there with the. With the ghost now.

[B]

He got his double. Rocky got his double.

[A]

Now know TI Is making a comeback too. How do you guys feel about that? Have you heard it?

[C]

I listened to the snippet. As of this recording, there's only been a snippet.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

The snippet sounds great. It sounds really good. I love that. That Ross record that Forell did that kind of just went under the radar because the clips overtook everything. I like that Forell is going back and working with. With artists from that era. And, I mean, TI Obviously didn't get to start with Pharrell, but Pharrell was. He has some early good tips to the masses.

[A]

That song is out, baby.

[C]

Oh, it did come out.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Well, I have not heard the full one, but I did love the snippet.

[A]

Okay, we'll check it out. We'll come back and let you guys know how it is.

[C]

Yeah, I was thinking when I saw that snippet, it was while I was thinking about all the kids that Rocky had. T. I could have. Grand Hustle could have have been one of the biggest labels of the, like, early 2000 and tens. If things panned out contractually. He found Meek Mill, then Meek ends up going to mmg. He found Travis Scott. Travis Scott was on Grand Hustle ends up going to good music. Iggy, I'm not trying to make a joke. Let's not act like she ain't have a time. She did if that was played a little bit differently. And Q Tip didn't ruin her career on Twitter. And then she went on only fans. Fans. A lot of hypotheticals here. I'm just saying of. Of the talent, I was ready.

[B]

You got at least three more. You can name two bucks. Yeah.

[C]

I always felt Bob didn't get a fair shake, but definitely had big records. Big, big records. Like Grand Hustle, when you. When you look at it, with who they had signed, it's. It's a label that I don't think people bring up ever. And it's like, dude, look at the roster. They did have at one point.

[A]

Eight ball. And. And a lot of them were signed at the same time. 8Ball, MJG, BG Bob, Chip Diamond, DJ Drama Killer Mike, Meek Mill. OMG. Rich Kids. Travis Scott. Young LA and the majority of them were signed all at the same time. That's not bad.

[B]

But see, that's why it goes back to what I always say about Wayne. When you're an artist and you're still in, like. Cause at that time, TI was still in his prime. It's hard to have a label and to really focus and get other talent off like that. So for Wayne to be able to do what he did with Nicki and Drake, which is why I always praise Wayne for that. He had to completely remove himself. If you heard of record. Cause Rory, you know how this shit go. You hear record from an artist you signed to. First thing, if I'm in my prom, first thing I'm saying, I need that. I gotta get on that, putting that on my shit. Y' all artist still gets the look. Cause he's on the song. But it's like I'm the main character here and I'm still in my prime. So, you know, TI had all of these talents, but at the same time, T.I. was focused on T.I. the artist. that time, Wayne was at the height of his. Was in his prime. He signed Nikki and Drake and a whole bunch of other acts and he removed himself completely and was like, nah, let them get off. Like, I don't like. It's stay time, time. A lot of artists are not doing that. And that's why probably a lot of these acts that are could have been. I mean, A boy and jg, even when TI had them, they were already legendary.

[C]

Yeah, it was like when June had.

[B]

Signed, they were already legacies at that point. But you know, the other guys, the Meeks, we don't know what happened with that. I'm sure he spoke on it. I just can't remember.

[C]

He has spoke. I forgot to.

[B]

Yeah, I just can't remember what happened.

[C]

With that Travis Scott. I even think, like, TI did the noble thing with Travis Scott. I think think the meek thing was he was like announced but not signed on paperwork, so it was a little easier. I'm pretty sure Travis Scott was signed, signed. And TI just did the honorable thing. Like, if you don't want to be here. And Kanye is like, which is your idol too.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, go be great. Yeah. What you want to do here?

[A]

Oh, a lot of it, they said was due to TI's legal troubles and incarceration, he was unable to really do anything. And I'm sure he wasn't the only person on the label that had those issues.

[B]

Yeah, I'm gonna just go ahead and guess some Other had some legal issues on the label.

[A]

No, I mean, like, I'm saying, during TI's legal issues, he couldn't. Yeah. During TI's legal issues, he couldn't help anybody on his label trying to survive.

[C]

Yeah, no, I get that. But, yeah, I mean, again, had that, you know, TI with all the legal stuff he was going through, had that not happen. I think Grand Hustle, the label looks a little. A little different.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, come on, fam. You think Travis Scott.

[C]

No, I'm saying it's managed differently. He focuses more on Meek and Travis.

[B]

Like, yeah, for sure.

[C]

But no, you are right about that, because even, like, we'll put another dollar in the. The Jay Z jar. We should make a Jay Z jar here of every time he's brought up. It's like the swear jar. When Cameron took. Oh, boy. The old boy beat from Just Blaze, and HOV came in and was like, why didn't you play that for me? He signed to you?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

What am I supposed to do?

[C]

This is. This still helps you.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

But HOV was in his prime. Like, nah, I need that beat.

[B]

Yeah, but that's how it goes, though. If I'm. If I'm the. You sign to me and I'm still the biggest artist on the label. Y' all in the studio every day and y' all catch one. Come on, fam. Come on, fam. Like, get after me. Y' all stay. Y' all can still get y' all shit. Y' all still on the record. Y' all still gonna get y' all bars off.

[A]

But, like, y' all think Jay would.

[B]

Have did with Old Boy as far as what raps?

[C]

Well, no, there's an old boy verse, and Cameron told Guru. Erase that.

[A]

Erase that.

[C]

Look at the radio. Yeah, there is a Jay Z old boy verse.

[A]

You know what I feel like?

[C]

No, I never. No one's. No one's ever heard it.

[A]

I heard that rumor before, though.

[C]

Yeah, Gurus talked about it. Cams talked about it. Yeah.

[B]

Must have been fire Erased his.

[A]

Ain't that what 50 did to Beyonce with the in the club remix? Beyonce's in the club.

[C]

There's a Beyonce in the club remix, which.

[B]

In the 50s in the club.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I never knew that. Yo, I probably read that and just, like, didn't even want to, like, make.

[A]

Sure I have the right song. I'm almost positive. Yeah, the Beyonce. How y' all never heard this?

[C]

This be, like, a cool remix on a mixtape.

[B]

Yeah, like.

[A]

Sexy Little thug. That's what it was called. Sexy Little thug.

[C]

No, it would be called in the.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm so glad we got out of in the club. Sipping on bub. I hated sipping on Bug your family invented. I hate it when said Sipping on Bu. S. I hate that line. Sipping on bub right now. Sipping on bub.

[C]

And I can give you some X if you're into taking drugs.

[B]

Oh, my. I hated sipping on bub. Bub. I hate it when said.

[C]

Yo, it sounds like all beer. It doesn't.

[B]

Yeah, hated that. I never like when said Bob. I never like that.

[C]

I had no idea that that existed. So that was supposed to be a remix?

[A]

No, I think beyond. Beyonce just made her own little version.

[C]

Or like, she had that Dre beat before.

[A]

No, I think she was. Made her own over it. Was it in the club. Was already big, I think, when she.

[B]

Yeah, so she did a cover, like.

[A]

Okay, she did like a cover, but.

[C]

No, because that'd be a cool.

[B]

I thought she had the record. I thought she had the record.

[A]

No, she blocked it everywhere.

[B]

And then she had laid to it and then, like, never did nothing with it. And then 50 got it and put something out. That's what I thought you were saying. Like, but that right there. Yeah, Beyonce was doing that.

[C]

No, she got off on that for sure. I could have seen the. That Beyonce bop working a little bit, though, because that was after, like. Like Dre did the Mary J. Family affair shit. Like those type of Dre beats were working with. With pop stars. Beyonce got off on that, though. I'm shocked. I never heard that. But I don't know.

[B]

But we all said Beyonce rap better than a lot of niggas, though.

[C]

Yeah. When. When she gets her rat bag. She. She's there. I. That story that Lady Gaga was supposed to be on Kendrick.

[A]

What?

[C]

God, don't kill my vibe.

[B]

Lady Gaga was supposed to be on Kill my.

[C]

She was. You can find the. You can find it on YouTube. So hi to Lady Gaga. She's going to get on the Kendrick's, I guess, technical first album, if you don't count section 80.

[A]

It exists. Yeah.

[C]

And when I heard that story, I was like, damn, that's. That's a bold move to take her off the hook and just keep yourself there.

[B]

She just did the hook.

[C]

Yeah. Then I heard her version of it when it leaked at whenever. Like an interview. I don't have a punch. Somebody had talked about it, and then I heard it, and I was like, yeah, they made the right call of taking over. Hell yeah. Like, it's a completely different song. You Like.

[A]

I am a sinner.

[B]

No, no, no. Turn it up. Turn that up. Turn that off.

[A]

Turn that off.

[C]

So. But, yo, you gotta like, however I am a sinner.

[B]

Don't do that. Don't do that. No, Kendrick, you did the right.

[A]

Yo, it wasn't EQ.

[B]

Don't tell me something wasn't EQ'd. I don't care what wasn't EQ. Yo, that ain't it. That's not the vibe. That's not the energy. Yeah, that's not the right texture. She came in there with too much vibrato. Like, it's just like, no, no, we're not doing that.

[C]

Let the center run, too.

[B]

Yeah, we're not doing that. Just.

[C]

Just.

[B]

Yeah, turn it off.

[C]

Trying to over sing it. It.

[B]

Yeah, and.

[C]

But I mean, that was that era when, you know, you were the blog era, where the song were trying to, like, over sing everything. It was like, that's not this type of music.

[B]

It's not that.

[C]

But I. You know, you have to give them credit, cuz. Imagine being not Kendrick Lamar, You Kenny from Compton, you K, trying to get out of your situation. Debut album. The biggest artist period at the time is Lady Gaga, and you go, it ain't it, man. I give him so much.

[B]

I respect that. I really like that. Because you definitely want a Gaga feature. I mean, what artists don't? But if it sound like that, like, nah, though. It's like, nah, that's not this. It's just. It's not the right. It's not the right style. It's not the right vibe. It's not the right. You know what I mean? So it's like, all right, not this.

[C]

We can't.

[B]

God got no disrespect. We can't do this one, but we could find another one. Yeah, but this ain't it.

[C]

And from my understanding, she was pretty offended by it. Yeah.

[B]

I mean, I can understand that. Artist that big. And at the time, Kendrick is not, you know, who he is today, you dog. I could look at that like, I'm doing you a favor. Like, I'm giving you a look, like.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, I think if Kendrick now took it off, she would respect him more because now he is way more established than he was while making Mad City. But even then, I feel like Lady Gaga, who came up in the fucking Village underground scene could respect that of an artist, like, as particular as she is about her art.

[B]

Yeah, somebody else is gonna be particular as well.

[C]

It would shock me that she would get offended by that, but that Was the rumor that she was like, are you serious?

[A]

Well, I'm looking at Kendrick's interview in the fader or. Well, he told a complex. Actually. He said that they didn't manage to get it recorded on time. Her. Her part wasn't full on time, so it's just the business side coming through messing things up. But, you know, it's God's plan. I'm not really too tight about it because I know we have something special. And then Gaga released her mix of the track where she handled the hook.

[C]

That's the PR version. There's another interview with somebody.

[A]

PR version.

[C]

TDE that. That came from Interscope, sent that out. Yeah, there's the real version of them going, nah, I'm cool, G. That ain't it. That ain't it at all.

[B]

Yeah, that wasn't it. I never even heard that as soon as that. You played that just now.

[C]

Also, one of my favorite YouTube videos, like, in regards to. To don't kill my Vibe. Another dollar in the Jay Z jar. He's on the remix. When they bring Kendrick in the studio and they have like the hidden camera in top just. He just thought he was walking the studio. He didn't know that he was walking in to be played. Jay Z on his remix, you just say. Imagine just sitting down like by the control board and somebody hit play. And you just hear whole verse on your. On your. Your song, like, all right, man, I was screaming, what the is going on?

[B]

You know exactly what's going on. Life is about to change. They about to start talking to me different.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Mr. In front of my name.

[A]

Yeah, Mr.

[C]

In front of my name.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[C]

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[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And her crew.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Them Oxy's going nuts.

[A]

I'm very. I'm very proud of all seriousness, north released a song and. Or a snippet of a song where she. Her. I guess they said that she produced it and she recorded it. She. She produced it and she wrote it and it sounds good for her to be. What? I think she's like what, 12 or something like that. It sounds good. I'm surprised you guys haven't heard it cuz the.

[C]

I heard the soul. Yeah. Trapping soul like a dad.

[A]

That is so good for her to be. I'm sure she didn't do it all on her own, but possible most of.

[C]

The time piercing on my hand, the.

[A]

Other for them just fancy.

[C]

Want to understand vultures. One her record. She got off on that. Like anytime north has done music, it sounded great.

[A]

I think it's so good for like for her age. Like for her like her. That's something her friends would play even if she didn't make it. Do you. Does that make sense? I think that that's so cool. I really want. Look forward to her to continue to grow into who she's becoming and getting better. I think it's very adorable.

[B]

I mean, how old is north now?

[A]

North has to be.

[B]

She's not in high school yet, is she?

[A]

No, she's 12. Yeah. Middle school.

[C]

Okay. I mean her dad is a musical genius and her mother understands visual aesthetic probably better than anybody in the modern era. She has some pretty good genes.

[B]

She's got a good shot. She's got a good shot.

[C]

To me, she'll probably.

[B]

She gonna be somebody now. I don't know what she gonna do, but she gonna be somebody. Like we gonna be reading about north somewhere. Like she ain't gonna be behind 711 ask you to buy her a beer. That ain't gonna happen. She on the right track.

[A]

But a lot of people do end up behind with famous parents who end up behind 711 by asking to buy you a beer. Like that happens.

[B]

Yeah. But not north though. That ain't gonna. Not with Kanye, her daddy. Kanye will sh the country if that ever happens. He will buy every 7 11. That's not happening. He not doing that. Thank you.

[C]

Controls the 7 11.

[B]

That's cool to hear. You know, the kids that we watch literally grow up like, grow into themselves and have their own personalities and dreams and so that's dope.

[A]

Cuz she could have been asked, like, Rory, like, you be having Amara on the boards. Like, what if she asks, like, if she ends up being ass, are you gonna tell her she asked?

[C]

I mean, love this hypothetical we have here. Like, why couldn't we go the other way? Like, yo, what if Amara is amazing? How. How will you harness that greatness and get her to the next level?

[A]

Yeah, we. That we know that. But, like, what if she turns. Like, what if she bring you some. It's some ass.

[C]

Yeah. What if she's awful depressed, turn you a crackhead? What if she still saying, as far.

[A]

As career, if she wanted to go into your career, if she wanted to start a podcast, if she wanted to produce records and she just wasn't good.

[C]

I would let her fail. And if she still had a passion for it, that means there's room for improvement. A. So yes, she can continue to fail as long as she's passionate about it. Yeah, of course I keep encouraging Everyone sucks at everything in the beginning.

[A]

But, like, what if it's like, what if we hit in like 35 and she still sucks?

[C]

Well, that's a different.

[B]

It's a different conversation. As a dad, you got to have it, though.

[C]

I would have had that conversation before 35. I can show you that.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Like, you know what, sweetie? This is not. We should look at something else. Like, got the right energy. But let's. Let's point that energy somewhere else, though.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, but also, like, with some of the celebrity kids kids, I almost feel like social media is, like, good for them in a weird way, because all the other celebrity kids at the coming up, like, were hidden up in the hills doing Coke at 12 years old. Like, north be on Tick Tock trying to get followers.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, she's creative every day as much as I on social media. And I think it's going to ruin our youth. A lot of kids are finding creativity in the content that they're creating. Like, I've seen North even like the basketball video. She. She On TikTok, like, working on her handle. I think that will also help with the celebrity kids because they already have a following and it gives them an outlet where creativity can be rewarded.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Instead of going to Hidden hills parties at 13 and you're doing coke with, you know, the creator of mash.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Or something.

[B]

The creator of mash. Look who you.

[C]

I'm sorry. You know, like, like the Drew Barrymore child star Days.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So, yeah, I think a lot of the Nepo babies may be saved by social media because they will have to be so forward facing and can't really just be cracked out behind the scenes.

[A]

I think that's good for adults too. As far as hidden creates, not even hidden creativities. But I feel like adulthood's kind of like stomps out. Stomps out, like your childhood dreams, like whatever you said you wanted to be when you were seven, like by the time you're like 21 and you got to pay bills, like all of your creativity, unless you want to take the risk and become a creative, is like stomped out. And I feel like social media has given people a platform to share. Like, oh, no, you didn't know. But I know how to draw, I know how to paint, I know how to write, I know how to play music. Like, I know how to do all of these things that I've never had anybody to share it with because the people around me don't give a. So I can just share it with y'. All.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And it kind of re. Reignites that flame in them. I think that that's really cool.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, Nepo babies, there's rarely like a gray area.

[B]

What you mean?

[C]

It's either complete crash outs or a feeling like equally or. Right. A step below what their parents were. Like, you never, you're never just out at a Starbucks and like happen to meet someone and they're like, yeah, I'm Jude Law's daughter. Like just some regular, average person. It's either completely crash out or they're famous.

[B]

Elon Musk is a son who transitioned to a woman. That might be the craziest Nepo story ever.

[C]

I know, I know nothing. Is that the one that's Control Alt Delete was. What's their name?

[B]

Her name is.

[C]

It's just a noise, right?

[B]

It's like a. Something like that.

[A]

Vivian Wilson.

[B]

Vivian.

[C]

Oh, never mind.

[B]

All right, we can Pretty average. We can come back in.

[C]

We keep all that.

[B]

You want to keep that?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. All right. No Vivian.

[C]

Okay. Well, he does have some kids that have some wild names, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

But Vivian is his son who transitioned, is now a woman. Vivian Wilson. You know, Elon completely wrote her out of like any will, any metadata, estate, anything. And Vivian doesn't give a. Y' all know how much money Elon Musk is worth? Just, just, just guess.

[C]

Nah, but she here for the vibe.

[B]

I know, but just guess, just guess how much her daddy is worth.

[C]

I don't Think there's a dollar amount.

[A]

Oh, she has a twin brother. That's rough. Wow, that's rough.

[C]

Cowell said he's not gonna give any.

[B]

Money to this kid. Simon Cowell's not gonna give no money to his kid.

[C]

Why?

[A]

I don't know if I'd be pissed if Simon Cowell, my dad, and they give me no money. Like, in comparison to Elon.

[C]

Like money, though.

[B]

Simon got money, but he had. Elon would kill himself if he woke up in his accounts at 600.

[A]

Yo.

[B]

Elon would kill himself. He was going to the deepest depression you've ever seen.

[C]

The. The parking spot for his rocket cost $600 million.

[B]

Yeah. Like, it cost 600 million to gas.

[C]

Up one of his toys raised apart.

[B]

600 million. Elon would kill him. Like, what the happened? Like, what?

[A]

Oh, my Lord.

[B]

Yeah, but I think that's, like, the craziest reverse Nepo, you know, because Vivian don't give a. Vivian don't even want to be affiliated.

[C]

I feel like there's. There's probably Nepo babies like that, though, that just want nothing to do.

[B]

Yeah, but them Nepo babies don't come from a daddy that got Elon Money, though.

[C]

Is money even a thing?

[A]

Like I was going to say, when you're born into that amount of money, you don't value money. It's nothing to you.

[B]

True. I get that part of it. But if your daddy is worth what Elon is worth. Okay, if my daddy was worth what Elon's worth, I don't know if I'm going to just do anything to write.

[C]

Myself out of that estate, but some people are new. New. And they don't care about their rich father, and they just want to go skate with the twins in the south side.

[B]

You can still do that.

[C]

Like, you can still do that.

[B]

You can still go. You can still go skate with you.

[C]

And if she's.

[A]

If she. If she's queer trans, then she's very, very ashamed to have Elon as her father anyway, so that's. There's that as well. Money isn't worth it to her because he's. He goes against everything she stands for.

[B]

So I don't know. You know how many surgeries you can get with that Elon money. You could transition a whole country.

[C]

You could transition Mars, technically.

[B]

Yeah. I just think Vivian played. She played her hand the wrong way. She could have still stayed in the state and got her dreams and goals off, too, though. Though, like, you know what I'm saying?

[C]

You guys don't find it Funny that the person trying to inhabitate Mars cares about gender. Y' all don't find that ironic?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like.

[C]

Like, y' all don't find that a little bit ironic, a guy trying to go to Mars cares about gender?

[A]

Don't worry about the aliens. You worry about the wrong right now. Little fish, big pond. Like, what the.

[C]

Are you talking about aliens on another planet? And then I'm mad at.

[B]

And then is Nepo win. Like. Like, say, my dad, like, played in the NBA, but he wasn't that good. And then, like, I'm coming up, and I'm, like, the number one pick. So you're Steph Curry, prospect. It's like, no, but Dell was. Del was.

[C]

Del was a step.

[B]

Of course not. But I'm just saying. I'm talking about, like, nobody even remembers your dad. Okay. Rick Brunson. Jalen Brunson, right? Rick Brunson was. He was. He was good.

[C]

He was.

[B]

He was. He was a very. He was a journeyman, but, you know, he was.

[C]

He was a journeyman.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, he.

[B]

He bounced. He bounced around in the league a little bit. Like, he didn't. You know, he didn't. He wasn't like a franchise player.

[C]

Papa was a rolling stone, you know?

[B]

Yeah, same thing. Same thing. Just trying to find a spot where.

[C]

He could just be service wherever he laid his.

[B]

Just be serviceable. Rick Brunson was of service to a few NBA teams. Got in there.

[C]

He used.

[B]

He was of service. Listen, no, that's all we're all trying to be is of service to something, to somebody. Right?

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

That's all. So Rick Brunson was of service to a few NBA teams throughout his career. Right. Got a homegirl that was. Never was like an All Star. Never. Never was a franchise player, Never put the city on his back. Everything that his son turned out to do. Right. Rick never did that. Is that something like, is Jalen Brunson a Nepo baby?

[A]

No. I would say no if your dad plays.

[B]

But he kind of is, though. But he kind of is because he still had access to the NBA as a kid. He was still at the practice facilities. He was still around the game, learning the game, working out, things like that, you know, like developed relationships with people.

[C]

Probably got to some camps because of camps.

[B]

Probably got to a college. He probably went to Villanova because the guy at the team was in the NBA somewhere as a GM or something. Knew his dad. Like, I'm just saying there's still ways that Jalen benefited from his dad being an NBA player. His dad wasn't, you know, LeBron, but he was in the league and he was able. He had access. He was able to develop relationships and things like that. So, you know. But Jalen still had to be. Be Jaylen, though.

[C]

See? Okay, I think Nepo babies with athletics is, I think, a bit unfair. This is just the. The AI definition, a Nepo baby.

[B]

Now you go to AI. Okay, go ahead.

[C]

Okay, I'll go to AI for definitions. Not what it's like to feel horny. Because I don't think AI has ever felt horny yet.

[B]

No, we talk about.

[C]

Yeah, a Nepo baby is a person often in entertainment, whose career success is attributed to their famous or influential parents connection, implying they received unearned advantages or opportunity due to family privilege rather than sole talent. Yes, he definitely got access to stuff based off his dad being there. But you can't make the league. You can be the 54th pick. That's as close as you can get to a Nepo baby in athletics.

[B]

What pick was Jalen?

[C]

That's the only thing, like, I don't feel like Bronnie was. Was worth that pick. That to me was more Nepo baby, but that's the only thing I can think of. Like, the nick 34. Dallas isn't drafting him. Not based off his talent. No one is drafting any player that's not based off their talent. Where you may get a role in a movie or get a feature you don't deserve. Like, something can happen based off your parents, but with athletics, you could either do the job or you can't.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, no one was trying to draft Jeffrey Jordan. Jordan. He was trash. So I. I don't know if you could call Nepo babies in. In basketball. I think that's a little unfair.

[A]

Somebody had made a tick tock that said it was actually, it was a comedy tick tock. But I get what they were saying. They were like, we don't see any, like, young, beautiful, like, movie stars these days because all of the people in like, movies and TV are Nepo babies and like, but they're not Nepo babies of the stars. They're Nepo babies of the people who belong behind the camera. And like you giving off behind the camera jeans. And the people that are supposed to be behind the camera are now like, the stars. And that's why we got so many ugly movie stars now. And I was crying, hilarious take.

[C]

But.

[A]

But are they lying? Because the directors and. And cameramen and all their kids are now the movie stars. And it's like, like, where's the Bombshells movie. A movie star used to be like. If you were a movie star used to have to be a bombshell. Who are the bombshells that aren't black? Because the black girls be bombshells.

[B]

Okay, but there's a bombshell that's not black, like the.

[A]

The TV and white. Like, who's the white Bombshells? We used to have white bombshells in movies, like, as main characters, actors and actresses.

[B]

There's still a bombshell in movies.

[A]

Weird.

[B]

Margot Robbie.

[A]

Margot, yes. I'm talking about. Okay. Margot Robbie is. Margot Robbie is Barbie. She's like the exception, never the rule.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. But she's a Bombshell.

[A]

Yes. Who currently. Who else? Because Margo's getting older, so.

[B]

Yeah, I'm still.

[A]

Yo, y' all know that's my white fire. I love her.

[C]

I would convert to. To white women for her.

[B]

I think Josh Allen's wife that was in Haley.

[C]

Haley.

[A]

Haley.

[B]

What's her name?

[A]

Haley Steinfeld.

[B]

Yeah, I think she's. I think she's. She could be the next one. The next Bombshell.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I mean, I don't want to, like, judge looks or whatever, but as far I know, you're saying Bombshell show in, like, a Cameron Diaz.

[A]

That's so funny. I was literally about to say Cameron.

[C]

Diaz, but, like, as far as, like, Judd Apatow's daughter is an incredible actress. Like, she deserves all that Nepo. She's amazing.

[A]

You talking about Mod?

[C]

Yeah, I mean, I know her face.

[B]

So you talking about just like, she's pretty.

[C]

She's not a bombshell. But I'm talking about Bombshells. But yeah, she's very much a Mod can act.

[A]

Isn't that. She was in. She was in Ex Euphoria. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

She been in everything she sees.

[B]

A really good actress is Zendaya mom.

[C]

Show, in my opinion. Yes, but is she an Nepo kid?

[A]

No. It's also not white. Like Pisa. It's also not white.

[C]

Well, that's because they're not hiring any whites anymore.

[A]

The P said it in that goddamn dei.

[B]

Z is a DEI actress.

[C]

Peter Parker would never be with a black woman.

[B]

Yo, yo, when the last time y' all watched that movie was in Daya. And I don't want to say Denzel Washington son's name.

[C]

He even changed his name so he's not Denzel Washington. Sonny.

[A]

John David. John David.

[B]

John David Washington.

[C]

Probably since it came out. But that's a phenomenal movie.

[A]

I watched it maybe two years after it came out and I watched.

[B]

That is really good.

[C]

No, they went crazy in that.

[B]

Like, I watched that, like, last again, Malcolm and Marie. That is really good.

[A]

People. I was actually talking. I had a conversation about that movie with somebody the other day. People treat that movie. They either hate. Hated it or they loved it. I was one of the people who loved it.

[C]

I thought it was phenomenal because I.

[A]

Think it was more about dialogue than a storyline. And I think the dialogue was really good. The only thing is, and I agree with the person I was talking about. They. I mean, I was talking to. They said that Zendaya looks so young. It's hard to picture her as an adult woman having those conversations. But I'm like, she is supposed to be young in this, the film.

[C]

Yeah, she.

[A]

She looks. She looks. She does look young, but she's supposed to be a young girl in the film. I just don't think they had a lot of chemistry. That was my only really complaint about it. They didn't have a lot of chemistry. And that Mac and cheese, that's the.

[B]

Worst Mac and cheese.

[C]

Well, I mean, the Mac and cheese was. That was really the only critique.

[B]

Zendaya made a bowl of that Mac and cheese. When it came out, I spoke about that was like, yo, listen, I loved it. But that Mac winning an award and.

[A]

Coming home and eating that is crazy.

[B]

That is feeding your. That. And he just won a crazy award. It's like, you know, I'm about to lose.

[C]

Leave you.

[B]

That's. That would have been my conversation. You know what?

[A]

He was tearing that up. He liked that. He liked it.

[B]

Well, some like, food, we know that. I hate when a, like, my girl could cook. She come over. My girl cooking. I'm like, where she can cook? Yeah, come over. You go over thinking his girl could cook. You get there, you'd be like, yo, I ain't gonna lie. Your girl got four trays of bullshit on that table. Yo, he took four hours cooking that. That is trash.

[A]

Just baked chicken. And she just put the cold barbecue sauce on it.

[B]

Baked chicken, that shit. The skin ain't. She ain't like, brawling enough to get crunchy. That shit just like you walk in, it's just.

[C]

It's just shrimp Alfredo.

[B]

That trash like you being here eating this every night.

[A]

Shrimp Alfredo. But it's shrimp. Mad hard, overcooked orange.

[C]

It's from that same jar of Alfredo. Just pour. Just poured it in.

[B]

The taste levels is different. That's all. This your taste levels.

[C]

I don't want to say. Speaking of Nepo Babies. But I actually just got put on to Infinite Coals. Forget. I really am not sure that's what. Why I'm tiptoe. I don't know if that. If she or he. I don't know what they identify as. Ghostface Child, okay. Is an extremely, extremely talented artist. I know they've had some, you know, they've had a rocky relationship that I. I wasn't aware until, like, I, you know, went on their page and started listening to their music of the history that they have with their family business that's been made public.

[B]

I think people was killing us because we didn't ask Ghost Chase about. About his relationship with his son.

[C]

Well, one, I wouldn't have. I'll start there. And number two, I was not fully aware of everything. I'll be honest. I did not pay.

[B]

I don't know. I know that they don't have a. A good relationship. Like, they're not. Don't have the healthiest of relationships. But I also like you. I wouldn't. I wouldn't ask nobody that about their. Their children.

[C]

Yeah, I wouldn't. But they have incredible music. Even one record that is dedicated to the situation.

[A]

Sweet Face Killer.

[C]

Yeah. With. With their.

[B]

That's his name.

[A]

No name is Infinite Coles is his name.

[C]

And my bad, if I keep saying they and you don't identify as that, I just don't know. I'm just trying to be polite. Incredible artist, like, you can. You can hear all the influence from their pops in the raps, but from a. You could see it's like Ghostface and Aelia Banks, like, came together and created an album.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

And the EP is. Is really good. So to me, that's. That's great. Nepo Baby. I don't know if they would consider it Nepo Baby, based off the stuff they put out in the relationship. But, you know.

[B]

Yeah, I don't think. I don't think Infinite is trying to use the relate. The dad is the reason why they're in the industry or being an artist. I think it's the exact opposite, actually.

[C]

Fair. But since we're on that. That topic, I did want to bring up and highlight how good their music was.

[B]

But what's up with Ludacris, man?

[A]

What's up with him?

[B]

Why? He canceled his Rock the Country performance, man.

[A]

So is.

[C]

Why is he on the bill?

[A]

Rock the country pulls out a kid. Okay. Ludicrous pulls out a kid Rocks Maga Music Festival after Backlash.

[C]

So essentially, he saw.

[B]

Wait, that was the name of it? Maga music.

[C]

They'Re calling it that I believe it's really just called Rock. Rock the Country. But yeah, once he saw the lineup where everyone. I mean, I feel like if you're. See the Kid Rock is putting something together, you would. Yeah, you know, pretty vocal about his love for. For. For Big Don. But, you know, he saw. He. He saw what people were saying after. That's all it came down to.

[B]

I don't like that, man. I'm sorry. I do not like that. I do not like. When do like that.

[A]

I do.

[B]

That shit is corny.

[A]

Why is it corny?

[B]

Cause you saw backlash online, so you're like, oh, nah, I didn't know what it was. My bad. Cut this shit, bro. Why are you letting a certain group of people online dictate what you do in your life? That shit is stupid to me as ludicrous. Come on, bro. You are way too established and got way too much positive shit going on and done too much dope shit to have a few people online tweet shit or post shit to have you be like, nah, I'm not performing. Like, that shit is stupid.

[A]

I would rather him not piss off his core fan base to go and, like, if this was Nelly, I could understand. But that ain't even. This ain't even your career. Like. Like, you don't need to be at a fucking country music fest. That's not even your fan base. So what you doing that for? Them niggas know you from Fast and.

[C]

The Furious, I think, to what I think Mole is saying. I consider myself part of Ludacris core fanbase. I wasn't even aware he was doing this until. Until he pulled out. Okay.

[B]

And I wouldn't stop listening to Ludicrous if he did this. Like, this is stupid. Like, what are we talking about?

[A]

Of course not. I don't. I don't think. I'm sure some people were threatening to stop listening to him, but I just don't. Also don't think it's necessary for him to do it.

[C]

Hank Williams, Jr. Nepo, baby.

[B]

I just think this is stupid, man. That is. That is so disappointing to see Ludicrous.

[C]

Letter Sker still alive. I. I don't know enough about the backlash that he was getting, but, I mean, listen, man, Nelly's gonna get his Tim McGraw duet off the country for sure. It is. Whites love ludicrous.

[A]

Whites do love ludicrous.

[C]

I will say that, like, I. Whoever put this lineup together of the two rappers that. That the white country love is Nelly.

[B]

He shouldn't Perform for his white fan base. Like, that's basically what they saying.

[A]

No, I don't think that that's basically.

[C]

I don't think that's what they're saying.

[B]

So what are they saying?

[A]

He performs for white people all the time. He be at my seat.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about rock the country.

[C]

I forgot the.

[B]

I'm talking about that.

[C]

Chris be doing the Syracuse.

[A]

He do be doing the state fair. And then white people being there knowing every single.

[B]

Okay, so rock the country.

[A]

It's a different. It's a little bit. Well, first of all, also, if your politics don't align with someone, we know that we live in a tense. A very tense political climate right now. It is what it is. Whether you agree it is. We live in a tense political climate. And people like to know that the people that they support and that they've supported for years have the same values as them. Doing anything with Kid Rock does not. Especially if it's not necessary. Doesn't. People can say that your values don't allow them. If you. If you will go and help contribute to this man making money who's been so loud with what he supports, then I can't support you. I don't think that people are wrong for that.

[C]

And to piggyback off what Demerit is saying, I. If this was just rock the country, if this was just a country music festival.

[A]

Yeah, I.

[C]

There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. I'm never going to sit here and say everyone that loves country music is fucking Maga, racist or whatever. But this. We can confidently assume that this entire day and entire festival will be very much politicized. Every single set will have something to do with a political theme, a political point. It's not just going to be a good day of music. Like, it's going to be very much politicized.

[A]

You know.

[C]

Not everyone was free for all 250. Never mind.

[A]

We know. We know what. What this is going to turn into. Like. And I'm sure when Ludacris first heard of it, he was like, country Music Fest, Whatever. I'll do Country Music Fest. It's a bag. This, this and that.

[C]

Everyone's done Bonnaroo.

[A]

Yeah. But. But when you stop and when people stop and up your mind to stuff. Yeah, yeah. You know what type of. You know, the fan base that. That's gonna attract. You know what the. The person who's throwing it and headlining it or whatever, you know what he's on. Like, you know, these things. So it's kind of like you. You take a risk again. Nelly doing it makes sense. Nelly doing it makes sense. Because of Nelly's country roots. His. He has a discography for that. Ludacris is like, you hip. You the hip hop that white people like. You don't need to be be there.

[B]

So because Ludicrous don't have a country song, that's why he shouldn't be there.

[C]

Ludicrous can do whatever the Ludicrous wants to do.

[B]

That's what I said. That's what I said at the top of the conversation.

[A]

Okay. But I don't think that it's corny that he looks at us, that people brought some things to his attention and he's like, yeah, maybe this might not be the best place for me. Why would you even want to perform at a festival where you know that there's a good chance that if your kids come and see you, they're going to be looked at funny? Why you even want to be in a place to like that? I don't like going to places where ain't a lot of me there. I don't know, maybe that's just me, but it ain't a whole lot of you. You walking around and for the people who don't recognize you, they looking you up and down like you ain't supposed to be here.

[C]

What. What do you say to the point of festivals, let's not say that are politicized or just regular festivals with an array of. Of different talent on the bill. A majority of festivals are. Are white. I don't care if you're at a rap festival. Okay? Rolling loud, Made in America, Roots, Picnic. Roots.

[A]

Picnic is white. It can be white sometimes.

[C]

I mean, it's probably the furthest white festival, but it's a lot of whites everywhere. It's a lot of whites singing along to the N word. It's a lot of whites that like black music but don't like black people. Like, at what point can you even get in the mind of a consumer at a festival at this point? Because there's a lot of rap festivals, and a lot of white people go to that. Use the N word freely, like rap music, but don't. But are still very much on the MAGA racist side of things. If you think MAGA doesn't like rap, you're very, very, very mistaken. They're aware, and they are in the festivals that are not rock the country.

[A]

But they're aware of where they are. They can have whatever ideals they have in their Head. But when you at Roots Picnic, you're aware of.

[C]

Go watch any rapper at a festival. Festival. When the cameras, a live stream, you hear everyone singing along to every word.

[A]

That's fine. But you are aware of where you are. You do not have the false sense of power that I can. I can. It's. It's different when he goes.

[C]

I know it's different.

[A]

If you're visiting my culture, whether you respect it or not, you're aware of the fact that you're visiting my culture. He's about to go someplace place where they do not accept him as. But they don't accept black country artists as a part of their culture. So you're about to go to some place where they're about to go and celebrate being white and free in America. Not everybody, but you can. You can guess the type of people that are going to be at that festival. We can.

[C]

I said it was different. I said it was different. Well, I have to head out soon, but before we leave, since we're speaking of the white fights, I'm so excited that Green Day is doing the pregame open performance at the Super Bowl. Not because I want balance. I just like Green Day.

[B]

I hope you have the time of your life.

[C]

If they don't close with that, they got lighters up in the bay.

[B]

They gotta close with that. And then what's the other one? What's the other. That whole dookie that ruled TRL for, like, 17 months. They had to. They had to retire the video. They was like, all right, man.

[C]

They had so many errors. The Doogie era, Nimrod. Then they became emo hop. I love Green Day.

[B]

Love Green Day.

[C]

Even when they went emo, I still like them. Is there a reason why we haven't gotten like a. A. A Blink 182 reunion or like, they still.

[B]

They just did their last. They just did their last tour, like, two years ago.

[A]

Damn, you missed that.

[C]

Damn, Matt. I missed that. But they're all still cool, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That makes me feel better. They didn't have somebody.

[B]

Yeah. No, they like life, man. Got kids now and married and kids rappers and.

[C]

Well, obviously Travis Barker went through a lot.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

With.

[A]

You know, I also want to give a big congratulations to our boy Cass. Rory looked around like, who?

[C]

Because next on the list was Bruno Mars. And I thought we were about to have another Bruno Mars debate.

[A]

I know. I was.

[C]

I was like, I don't have time for this. I was absolutely correct. Congratulations to our brother Kaz. He will be joining Mero with Mero. In the morning.

[B]

Congrats, Cash.

[C]

Mornings with Merrow. I'm sorry.

[A]

Go, Cass. So proud of you.

[C]

Listen, man. Cass. Cass. I respect it, man. Cass. Cass has two beautiful kids. Now he can get out of there early before he has to do the morning routine as a father. House.

[B]

Hey, Cass. Real know what you did with that where you did respect.

[C]

I knew what you was doing, Cat. Yeah, man.

[B]

Get out the house. Nice.

[C]

I got to work.

[B]

Yeah, it's all good. I got to go pay the bills. Yeah. Let me get up out of here.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

No more morning routines. N. I respect it, Cat.

[B]

It's over.

[C]

But no, seriously, jokes aside, I. I think that's amazing. And obviously, you know, they're. They're great with. With mellow already. They have chemistry. So. Yeah, I think. I think Casimiro will. Will be good.

[B]

Looking forward to it, man. Hopefully they bring that New York energy back tomorrow on the radio.

[C]

Is. Is Kaz the first Staten Islander to ever get a look? I feel like they've had every borough.

[B]

Up there on morning radio.

[C]

KAZ might be a Staten island legend now. Is Wu Tang, Pete Davidson and Cass.

[A]

I think Kaz is going to be amazing for radio because Kaz is interesting but still like pg. Like that's. He's safe but also still interesting. He's not boring. He's funny. He's interesting, but he's not.

[C]

You know, he'll be a good balance for when Romero goes a little too far to reel it back.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[C]

Yeah. He's like a good on mic producer in that regards of just bringing the conversation back to where it needs to be.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But I'm excited. And can i97 like make these podcasts? Like, I. I'll be honest. I'm not listening from 6 to 10 in my car, but I would like to listen.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Can you guys make it a podcast?

[A]

Yeah. Waiting on pay the boys extra though, for that POC. You know, get them that YouTube money. But yeah, that would be nice so we can support our friends. I ain't waking up at six o' clock in the morning to support my friend, but you know, wait.

[B]

No. Yes. Shout out to Meron Cass Morning Show. Hot 97 Distracted Mall on the screen. Listen. Listen to the guys. In more important news though. Is this Nike Lebron Martin Luther King Jr. Sneaker a real thing?

[C]

This can't be real.

[B]

This is not real. This is. This can't be real. There's no way they took the. The Teal blue off the Lorraine Motel. They're real. They're real and made It a sneaker.

[A]

They're real.

[B]

I'm not laughing. I'm not laughing, but I'm laughing.

[A]

You laughing.

[C]

This is nuts.

[A]

Honor the king.

[C]

Yo. The amount of people Nike boardroom and how many people have to approve. No one thought. This is fucking insane.

[B]

Even if for whatever reason crazy as.

[C]

That Pepsi commercial where they solved race relations and police brutality with a Coke.

[A]

Or a water Pepsi and.

[C]

And Kylie, Kendall Jenner.

[A]

Yeah. Mall looked dumbstruck.

[B]

There's no way these released tomorrow.

[A]

They come tomorrow.

[C]

Out of all the things that you could find to honor Dr. Martin Luther King, you're choosing. You're taking the heel off a motel that he was murdered. Murdered in.

[B]

Who thought that that was a good idea?

[C]

That's crazy.

[B]

Who thought that was a good idea?

[C]

Even Googling that when come brainstorming and coming up with ideas how we want to honor Mar. What motel was that in?

[B]

What does that say on the tongue?

[C]

Josh P. Just said they debuted him in. In Memphis.

[B]

It says call equality.

[A]

No, the. All right, all right, I'm done. I'm done, I'm done. All right. Nah, that's dragged it with that.

[B]

That is crazy.

[A]

Equality.

[B]

Well, that's not the first time they put that on the sneaker. But that color.

[C]

They put end racism in that.

[B]

Yeah, that. That, that teal. Using that Lorraine Motel teal as the color way.

[A]

If they. So if they send you some, you.

[C]

Ain'T gonna wear them.

[B]

But never wear them shits. I owned One pair of LeBron's my whole life, first of all, so those would not be in the collection.

[A]

I had the little purple ones with the. With the peach under bottom. They look kind of look like Galaxy ones. You ever seen them? You know what I'm talking about? They were fire. Yeah, those are crazy.

[B]

This is bad. This is a bad call on Nike's behalf. This is a terrible call on LeBron's behalf. Have. I mean. Yeah, this is just bad. This is not a good look. This is not a good look at all this.

[A]

The press, the episode. Let's just get out of here, y'. All.

[B]

No, it's just not a good.

[C]

It's just.

[B]

I can't believe.

[C]

Nuts. It's just.

[B]

They just missed the whole, like, mark with this one. Like, this is bad. And Nike usually does a great job. Like, they. They are very aware and very, you know, sensitive when it comes to certain things. So for them to greenlight this, this and put this in production and release it. Yeah, I don't know about that one.

[A]

It's just the teal from the Loren.

[B]

It's, it's. It's.

[C]

It's that murder site.

[B]

Yeah. You don't honor the murder site, the assassination.

[A]

Like, you don't celebrate.

[C]

That's.

[A]

That's like.

[C]

If we wanted to. If. If all Irish Americans wanted to honor jfk, we all went and drop tops and drove around for the day. Yeah.

[B]

In the back seat.

[C]

Like, you know, we all dropping the top today. Did you guys see the guys honoring Stephen Hawking? Save that for Patreon. That was going to be on my Patreon list for Thursday.

[B]

That was some of the I've ever seen. But we could talk about that on Patreon, man, because we. That's a whole nother conversation we'll have.

[C]

To get tomorrow, so.

[B]

All right, we'll go get tomorrow. Go get the girls. Baby D, good to have you back.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Continue healing. Continue blessings.

[C]

I like the red hair.

[B]

Love the red hair hair. I don't know what the titty push up about, but it's okay. We'll take that, too. Either way, we'll talk to y'.

[C]

All. Subscribe for.

[B]

I mean, listen, that's what they're here for. That's what the hornies are here for. We'll talk to y' all soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm the. He's just ginger.

[C]

Welcome back, Baby D. Introducing the titty tier.

[A]

No worry. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.