
In this episode of Next in Media, Mike Shields interviews Dani Mariano, CEO of Razorfish, about their research into Gen Alpha, highlighting this generation's unique media consumption habits, brand maturity, and influence on household purchasing decisions, as well as Razorfish's "creator collab" program designed to meet the evolving demands of creator-centric marketing.
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Mike Shield
Hi everybody. Welcome to Next in Media. I'm Mike Shield. This is where we're live in Cannes as part of my special series with View Planner on the YouTube ecosystem. Here with Dani Mariano. She is the president of Razorfish. Hey, Danny, thanks for being here.
Dani Mariano
Yeah, thanks, Mike. It's exciting way to start off the week here.
Mike Shield
Yeah, we're diving right into content here. I want to ask you, you guys have been at the forefront of working with creators in a unique way, but I want to ask you about you doing a lot of research on Gen Alpha. We're still kind of figuring out Gen Z and how they're changing the habits and how do we, how do we kind of grapple with them as marketers? What are you learning, what you would be scared of with these people?
Dani Mariano
Actually, I'm so optimistic about Gen Alpha and we've done at Razorfish three waves of proprietary research with gwy, our research partner. And what we're learning is that they are more Gen Z than Gen z at age 10.
Mike Shield
Okay.
Dani Mariano
And so I think marketers especially, you know, we saw this a lot with our clients, weren't prepared for Gen Z. They thought they would just be mini millennials. And I think the big takeaway is that Gen Alpha, they're not mini Gen Zs and they're going to literally change everything.
Mike Shield
Wait, so back up, were they, what were the expectations about Millennials that they thought were going to carry over, that they were wrong about? Just the media consumption habits, attention?
Dani Mariano
I think, you know, just the way Gen Z, they're investigators, they are looking for authenticity. Their priorities are very different and they're elusive for marketers to chase. I think marketers didn't realize how digital they were going to be and that their priorities were going to be different in terms social responsibility and their desire to look to businesses versus government institutions. Or religious institutions.
Mike Shield
Just also their expectations are really different.
Dani Mariano
Yeah, they're so different. And what they want from companies is very different. And we see that a lot in loyalty where they don't want transactional loyalty, they want a company to earn their loyalty. And so what we're seeing with Gen Alpha is that they take it even one step further. They don't want a brand just to earn their loyalty. They want a brand that allows them to co create the future of the brand. They want to be a part of that conversation.
Mike Shield
And we know with, with Gen Z, even millennials, but to a certain degree they're, they're very, their media ecosystem is more creator centric or even entirely creator centric. I'm assuming you're seeing that even more so with Alpha and the way they, they view what they, who they care about.
Dani Mariano
Yeah, absolutely. They're called the gateway generation because they actually consume so much influencer content and they're so media savvy, but they bring that influence from the people they're watching into the household and have extraordinary influence over household purchases. So 49% of parents of Alpha kids report that their kids are making household purchase decisions. And we're not talking about like what's for dinner or where we're going on vacation though that's true. It's also things like which smart refrigerator we're buying and that number goes up to 61%. When we talk about car purchases, 61% of parents report that their kids make the final decision on which car they're going to buy.
Mike Shield
That's a little frightening.
Dani Mariano
Well, they're very influential and they're very important and we also know that they have extreme brand maturity. So when we look at Gen Z at the same age as Gen Alpha, so around that 10 year old age, what we see is a huge shift in their favorite brands. So for Gen z at age 10, their favorite brands were cookie brands, cereal brands, like typical young people, typical young people things. Gen Alpha is looking to Nike, Apple, Samsung and we're seeing that these are brands that are very grown up and very mature and have fantastic, you know, girlfriends.
Mike Shield
You don't associate teenagers thinking about those kind of necessarily.
Dani Mariano
That's right. And that's because, you know, they spend a ton of time on YouTube, they're exposed to grown up brands and that becomes the benchmark. And for Gen Alpha, screens are not novel and I think they are for like Gen Z and but for Gen Alpha, screens are something that they've been had in their hands since they were born. And if you've ever seen a two year old go and swipe the TV to try to change the channel. That's because they know how to use.
Mike Shield
Tablets and it's early. They're maturing into being, being more important customers over time. But from a media planning perspective, this seems very challenging because I think a there are, you have to go through creators a lot more than typical media channels, I assume. But also you've got to try and craft messages that resonate but also speak to their brand maturity. What kind of challenges that present At.
Dani Mariano
Razorfish we don't actually have clients that market to kids. We did the research to understand how this generation will act and be able to guide our clients as they do come of age. So this year they're turning 13 so they are getting to that age where they will be on social media and we will start to see them come into, you know, their, their own marketing maturity as a target. What we see is that because they're looking at these really sophisticated online brands, they're looking for experiences that can match that. We also know that they have twice as many interests as Gen Z did at the same age. So from a creator and influencer perspective, what that means is you have to as a marketer be thinking about how your influencer programs scale and how do you break through because they're used to consuming a ton of content.
Mike Shield
It is not easy for any brand I think to master the creator universe. It's massive. Right, Talk about you have a particular program geared around this. How is that, what does that tell us about that and how does it evolve in house?
Dani Mariano
We have what we call the creator collab. So we have on staff creators and what this allows brands to do is to move fast with creators who have the ability to stay on brief and can produce polished social content. And that plugs into some of the solutions we have as part of publicist group with influential and captivate where you can have scale through those influencer platforms but you can also have custom creative within 24 hours when there are things to be responding to in real time. And so we look to weave that whole strategy together. But the creator collab is a fantastic team of on staff, full time employees that are great creators and love the brands that we work on and develop fantastic creators.
Mike Shield
So they are on staff but they are independent creators doing their own thing that occasionally do some work for you. Or are they like they're really part of the team?
Dani Mariano
No, they are really part of the team. So when we first started this, what we kind of discovered is that we had some amazing creators already on staff. And so what we've done is reoriented their role so that they have the time and the focus on developing creative and then we hire against that grief as well into our social teams. They are hybrids, right? They're strategic, they can plan all sorts of different parts of a social strategy, but they also can develop content. So their day to day probably changes based on what's going on with our clients and our brands. But they are on staff, full time employees that are also fantastic content creators.
Mike Shield
And how do you make sure you know, that's a challenge for any creator that works for the brand. You don't burn their audience out. Is that something you kind of have to tinker with over time?
Dani Mariano
Well, for us, the creators are more about the content that they can produce versus their following. And so these are content that our content collab makes is really about how do we create that to put into the organic feeds of our clients versus an influencer program where they have a following. So that's how we balance the burnout versus being fresh and being on point for what the clients need and the reach that they're trying to achieve, I guess.
Mike Shield
Lastly, how do you balance, you know, when you're putting together and again we're talking about Gen Alpha is coming up. Gen Z is kind of right in the heart of this. You're trying to figure out your media strategy and how much you're putting into YouTube versus your creator collab versus other creators. It sounds very challenging. How do you balance all that?
Dani Mariano
Very carefully. We are lucky to have fantastic tools as part of Pulisa's group that allows us to use AI for decisioning to make sure that we understand the audience down to the individual level through our identity solutions at epsilon and and that allows us to think through what is the right content at the individual level and what are the right platforms of where to reach them. And so that has allowed us to move much, much faster to understand where the content matches the format and the media to get to the individual.
Mike Shield
And actually one more question. How do you how much of that has gone through the big platforms like a YouTuber TikTok versus your own relationships with creators. And does that change over time?
Dani Mariano
You know, it's a real blend based on our clients and their needs and how we structure their media programs and their influencer programs with influential and captivate. We now have the largest social platforms or influencer platforms in the world. We have access to 17 million creators. So you know, we obviously want to use that as our first step because our decisioning tools work through those platforms. But based on how the clients are looking at their audiences, who we're trying to reach, and the way they structure their media deals will determine if we go through the platforms, if we go directly to.
Mike Shield
All right, well, that sounds simple.
Dani Mariano
Yeah. I mean, we're busy.
Mike Shield
Yeah. Danny, awesome stuff. Great conversation. Thanks for being here.
Dani Mariano
Yeah, thanks, Mike.
Next in Media: Are You Ready for Gen Alpha? Insights from Razorfish CEO Dani Mariano
Release Date: July 17, 2025
In the “Are You Ready for Gen Alpha? Insights from Razorfish CEO Dani Mariano” episode of Next in Media, host Mike Shields engages in a compelling conversation with Dani Mariano, President of Razorfish. Filmed live in Cannes, this episode delves deep into the emerging Gen Alpha demographic, exploring their unique characteristics, digital fluency, and the evolving strategies marketers must adopt to effectively engage with this young, influential generation.
Dani Mariano begins by distinguishing Gen Alpha from their predecessors. While previously marketers mistook Gen Z’s behaviors as an extension of Millennials, Mariano emphasizes that Gen Alpha is carving out a new, distinct identity.
“Gen Alpha... they are more Gen Z than Gen Z at age 10. They are not mini Gen Zs and they’re going to literally change everything.”
— Dani Mariano [01:34]
This insight underscores the necessity for marketers to avoid outdated assumptions and instead recognize the unique traits that Gen Alpha brings to the table.
Mariano highlights Gen Alpha's unparalleled digital prowess. Unlike Gen Z, who are digital natives, Gen Alpha has been immersed in digital environments from birth, making their interactions with technology second nature.
“Screens are something that they’ve had in their hands since they were born. If you’ve ever seen a two-year-old swipe the TV to change the channel, that’s because they know how to use tablets and it's early.”
— Dani Mariano [04:33]
This early exposure has cultivated a generation that expects seamless digital experiences and sophisticated online interactions.
Gen Alpha's media consumption habits are notably creator-centric. Mariano refers to them as the “gateway generation” due to their heavy consumption of influencer content and significant influence over household purchasing decisions.
“49% of parents of Alpha kids report that their kids are making household purchase decisions. And that number goes up to 61% for car purchases.”
— Dani Mariano [03:09]
This statistic illustrates the substantial sway Gen Alpha holds, not just within their personal choices but also in impacting family purchasing behaviors.
Engaging Gen Alpha presents unique challenges. Their advanced brand maturity demands that marketers align with sophisticated brands and create experiences that resonate on a deeper level.
“Gen Alpha... they want a brand that allows them to co-create the future of the brand. They want to be a part of that conversation.”
— Dani Mariano [02:30]
Additionally, their vast array of interests requires marketers to develop scalable and innovative influencer programs capable of cutting through the saturated content landscape.
To address these challenges, Razorfish has developed the Creator Collab program. This initiative integrates on-staff creators who are both strategic thinkers and skilled content developers, ensuring that brand messages are authentic and engaging.
“The Creator Collab is a fantastic team of on-staff, full-time employees that are great creators and love the brands that we work on.”
— Dani Mariano [06:20]
This approach allows Razorfish to produce polished social content quickly, maintaining relevance and responsiveness in real-time marketing scenarios.
Mariano discusses the critical role of artificial intelligence in refining media strategies. By utilizing AI-driven decision-making tools, Razorfish can dissect audience data to tailor content and platform choices to individual preferences.
“Our identity solutions at Epsilon allow us to understand the audience down to the individual level, which lets us match the right content with the right format and media.”
— Dani Mariano [08:42]
This precision ensures that marketing efforts are both efficient and highly targeted, maximizing engagement with Gen Alpha.
Balancing the use of major platforms like YouTube and TikTok with direct relationships with creators is essential. Razorfish employs a hybrid strategy, leveraging large influencer platforms while also cultivating in-house creator relationships to meet diverse client needs.
“We have access to 17 million creators. We want to use that as our first step, but based on client needs, we might go directly to specific creators.”
— Dani Mariano [09:26]
This flexible approach allows Razorfish to tailor influencer collaborations to specific campaign goals and audience segments.
Dani Mariano’s insights shed light on the transformative impact Gen Alpha will have on the media, marketing, and advertising landscapes. As a generation that demands authenticity, co-creation, and sophisticated digital interactions, Gen Alpha requires innovative strategies that prioritize engagement and adaptability. Razorfish’s Creator Collab and AI-driven media planning exemplify the forward-thinking approaches necessary to connect with this influential demographic.
For marketers looking to stay ahead in this rapidly evolving ecosystem, understanding and embracing the distinct characteristics of Gen Alpha is not just advantageous—it’s essential.
Notable Quotes:
“‘Gen Alpha... they are more Gen Z than Gen Z at age 10. They are not mini Gen Zs and they’re going to literally change everything.’” — Dani Mariano [01:34]
“‘Screens are something that they’ve had in their hands since they were born. If you’ve ever seen a two-year-old swipe the TV to change the channel, that’s because they know how to use tablets and it's early.’” — Dani Mariano [04:33]
“‘49% of parents of Alpha kids report that their kids are making household purchase decisions. And that number goes up to 61% for car purchases.’” — Dani Mariano [03:09]
“‘Gen Alpha... they want a brand that allows them to co-create the future of the brand. They want to be a part of that conversation.’” — Dani Mariano [02:30]
“‘The Creator Collab is a fantastic team of on-staff, full-time employees that are great creators and love the brands that we work on.’” — Dani Mariano [06:20]
“‘Our identity solutions at Epsilon allow us to understand the audience down to the individual level, which lets us match the right content with the right format and media.’” — Dani Mariano [08:42]
“‘We have access to 17 million creators. We want to use that as our first step, but based on client needs, we might go directly to specific creators.’” — Dani Mariano [09:26]
This episode serves as a crucial guide for understanding and engaging Gen Alpha, emphasizing the need for authentic, collaborative, and technologically adept marketing strategies.