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Next Level Soul Podcast with Alex Ferrari
FLASHBACK FRIDAYS: Clinically DEAD Woman Meets LIGHT BEINGS During PROFOUND Near Death Experience! (NDE) with Susan Dyer
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Catholics. During a near-death experience in 2017, Susan merged with an unnamable “God” and has mentored awakening women since. She graduated from Hamilton College with a Bachelor of Arts in Cultural Anthropology. Her work has appeared in Dance...
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- [00:00]
Susan Dyer
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- [00:23]
Ryan Seacrest
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- [01:27]
Alex Ferrari
Welcome to the Next Level Soul Podcast where we ask the big questions about life. Why are we here? Is this all there is? What is my Soul's mission? We attempt to answer those questions and more by bringing you raw and inspiring conversations with some of the most fascinating and thought provoking guests on the planet today. I am your host, Alex Ferrari. Now, before we dive into today's conversation, I want to invite you to experience something truly transformative. Next Level Soul tv. Our spiritual streaming platform where seekers from around the world can awaken, heal and expand. We've curated a powerful collection of life changing documentaries, Deep dive interviews, original series, audiobooks, courses, master classes and live events all focused on conscious, personal transformation, ancient wisdom and the soul's journey, this isn't just content, it's a calling. Whether you're exploring your spiritual gifts, seeking answers from the beyond, or just craving something real in a noisy world, Next Level Soul TV was made just for you. And here's the best part. It's commercial, free, available around the world and growing every week with new soul Expanding content. So if you're ready to go deeper, head over to Next LevelSoul TV and start streaming your awakening. Now, let's begin today's episode Disclaimer. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of this show, its host, or any of the companies they represent. Now today on the show we have near death experiencer Susan Dyer. And Susan's story is remarkable. It is a very detailed NDE and her story of being a clairvoyant and what she's gone through in her life, the challenges and what this Ned did for her is inspiring to say the least. So let's dive in. I'd like to welcome to the show Susan Dyer. How are you doing, Susan?
- [03:30]
Susan Dyer
I'm really good, thank you. I'm so happy to be here.
- [03:33]
Alex Ferrari
Thank you so much for coming on the show. I'm excited to talk to you about your interesting experiences have you had in your life.
- [03:40]
Susan Dyer
To say the least, to say the least. They're really weird. I do know. Wanted to say something about that. If you don't care, please. I wanted to tell your viewers that they might not relate to some of my experiences. They might not have ever had something similar happen to them. And therefore, like what I say could sound really unreasonable or even untrue. And if anyone is, is feeling that way or does feel that way, I just want them to know, like, that's okay, you know, I, that I, I do not, like, I don't, I don't blame you for feeling that way if you, you know, because it sounds, some of my experiences sound. They sound untrue and they sound insane.
- [04:50]
Alex Ferrari
They sound insane and it's okay. And I, I've had multiple people on the show.
- [04:54]
Susan Dyer
Yeah, that's worm.
- [04:55]
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, I've had multiple people on the show. I go, you know what you, you know, I've had channels and mediums and psychics.
- [05:00]
Susan Dyer
Yeah.
- [05:01]
Alex Ferrari
Near death experiences. Yeah. So I always tell them, I go, you know, what you do is insane. They go, yeah, I know. So it's, you know, it's a very, you know, we're very kind of understanding.
- [05:09]
Susan Dyer
Of open to that.
- [05:11]
Alex Ferrari
Yeah, yeah, we're having a conversation about this. So, okay, so what was, for my first question is what was your life like prior to your near death experience?
- [05:19]
Susan Dyer
I didn't want to be here. I wanted, if I could have chosen, I would have been dead. I felt that way until my near death experience, which was at age 40, before I died that one time, you know, I was born clairvoyant. That is very rare event. A lot of people, like, you know, this entire channel, a lot of people are awakening now. And the natural and comfortable way to awaken is after you've known yourself for a little bit and you are older and you have the ability to, to process and handle what may happen. But there are a few of us out there who came in who were literally born Claire. Like, I was born clairvoyant. And what that means, there's a lot of misinformation out there.
- [06:47]
Alex Ferrari
Actually.
- [06:50]
Susan Dyer
What clairvoyant means is that. And there's a lot of different ways people see things, but I can see energy. I can, I can see it. It looks like a neon, a sheer neon overlay over everything I'm looking at. And I, I, you know, archangels, deceased earth personalities, other races of beings. I mean, I was, A couple months ago, I was sitting here and Joan of Arc's head popped up like a balloon, like, to my left. You know what I mean? Like, I never know who's gonna come through. But when I was a kid, I was terrified. Of course, I didn't understand anything I was seeing. And when you're a kid, the only resources you have to make sense of yourself are your parents. And for me, a very strict church. And so as a, as a child, like, I was seeing, for example, a red, a very deep red. I actually couldn't see through it. And that's very rare. Like, I. There's been a handful of events that have happened to me where in my clairvoyance where, like, I literally, I can't see through it. Like, it is the world I'm in, in that moment, even though you would still see me sitting in this chair, I would be looking at something like, like, like it's flesh and blood and communicating. And so one of these, one of these spiritual presences was this like crimson colored, opaque thing. And it followed me all the time. And as a child, as a child, every day. And because of church, I thought this presence was the devil. I had no other way to interpret it. And so I, that like, started my, like, I think therapists call it your core wound. Like, as a child. So I would go into my parents room every night crying, saying, you know, telling my father what I was seeing in my bedroom. It's just like a movie theater. When you turn the lights off, it. It makes everything just all the more visible. And so at night, you know, I. There'd be a portal at the head of my bed. There would be, there would be beings observing me standing by my bed. They're. I didn't know this at the time, but like, archangels were like. And archangels and angels were just everywhere. Like, you know, diving around, splashing around, going through walls. And. But, but I was terrified. And so my dad just told me every night, you're not seeing what you're seeing. You have an overactive imagination. Go to bed. And my parents didn't believe me and the devil was following me. And so I, I knew to hit to like I, I had hid my clairvoyance. I knew to stop talking about it and pretend as if it wasn't true. And by kindergarten, I knew. I mean, it was very obvious. And also because of the reactions I got and because of how I interpreted those reactions, I hated myself. By kindergarten, I was like, something is deeply wrong with me. Some. Something's broken. And because of the, the devil presence, I thought and, and somehow, quote, unquote Devil.
- [11:49]
Alex Ferrari
Yeah. Yeah. Quote unquote devil presence.
- [11:51]
Susan Dyer
Quote double. And I found out later.
- [11:55]
Alex Ferrari
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
- [11:58]
State Farm Spokesperson
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- [12:51]
Ryan Seacrest
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- [13:22]
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- [14:25]
Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
- [14:28]
Susan Dyer
That was Archangel Michael and a lot of people don't know this. The archangels are totally non religious. They are just, they're just like a blob of divine presence. It has nothing to do with anything at all. No matter what you've done, no matter what you believe, no matter what religion. But that was Archangel Michael and he was presenting as the traditional root chakra color. We have certain energy, I would say portals. They're actually, they're actually portals. And you've probably seen the pictures like of the classic seven.
- [15:19]
LifeLock Spokesperson
Sure.
- [15:19]
Susan Dyer
The chakras there we have so many chakras. Oh my goodness. We would need to get into that. But Archangel Michael, one of the things that. And by the way, they don't have genders either, but it's easier to talk about, you know. So Archangel Michael actually really loves taking care of and washing over extra sensory children. And a lot of people don't know that, you know. And I wish I knew that back then because, you know, so that was Archangel Michael. But the feeling of hating myself and knowing I was weird and bad continued and it kind of calcified into I'm not lovable. And I truly felt that way. I felt I had no worth. And I married a man who I knew didn't even like me. You know, I knew he not even like as. But I was so, I was so down. My, my, my self worth was so damaged by that point. Like I was like, if I don't marry him, no other man will ever have me and I'll be alone again. And if you look at the facts of my life like they are pretty lonely. And I think a lot of people like me have Have a difficult time having people understand them. Like the fact that you are so open to talking about this. I treasure, like, this conversation. I don't have. I have like two friends. Everyone else has left. I do understand better now. I talked to my father directly after the near death experience, and he said something. He said, you know, honestly, you have always scared me.
- [17:57]
Alex Ferrari
That's a common thing.
- [17:58]
Susan Dyer
His reaction was coming from this fear. And it. It's a little bit ironic, but he completely is uncomfortable with this. Like, completely. But he also now completely believes me because I've told him things. You know, like sometimes my grandpa, like, will be like, susan, you, like, you tell. You need to tell your dad, blah, blah. And I don't know any of it. I don't know what any of it means. Like, he did this a couple months ago with like, medical stuff. And I'm like, I don't know what that word means. I don't know if my dad has that. What, like. And he had, he had me do this whole, you know, my dad now. I mean, I've told him and he's seen me do things and he's seen me say things and I've said things to him. He. He knows now it's all true, but it still really scares him. And a lot of people are scared by it. My. Several of my best friends throughout my life have said, don't you understand that you really freak people out? And I don't, Alex. I. I die. And. And when I went up there and I was inside of God, I promised, promised God directly that I would be all in.
- [19:26]
Alex Ferrari
All right, so. So before we get into that, so let's not skim over that. So what. How did. How did the near death experience, like. Tell me about your near death experience.
- [19:35]
Susan Dyer
So the divorce happened, obviously, and my body followed my mind. I crashed. And chronic Lyme disease just, like, raged out of remission. And I was incredibly sick. I had a walker with, like, you know, tennis balls on it. I was like, do we really need the tennis balls? I mean, like, I had a port in my arm and a fanny pack. And like, I was doing like two balls of antibiotics into that port day. My hand and foot, my right hand and foot were paralyzed. I was in excruciating. I. I don't know if you guys, if anyone's ever excited, experienced like, central nervous system pain.
- [20:36]
Alex Ferrari
Oh, that's not fun. That's not fun.
- [20:42]
Susan Dyer
It makes you feel like an animal.
- [20:47]
Alex Ferrari
So when did. So when did you. When did you pass?
- [20:51]
Susan Dyer
So my, My friends kept telling me, you're about to die. I was like, I'm not. I'm not. But the one night. The one night I knew I was. And I was so happy, you know, I'd been like, I would, like, leave peanut butter and jelly sandwiches on the floor for my kids and then go back to the couch. I would make them laying down on the floor because, like, I would have to, like, army crawl. And one night I was like, oh, my God, I am gonna die. It is tonight. And I was so quiet and I just laid there and my kids were with their dad. And I wanted. I just wanted my friends to leave. They wouldn't. They finally did. And I. I felt elated. And so I started crawling up the stairs to my room. And my guides, I felt like they hit me with a speech spitball. That's literally what it felt like. And I was like, oh, my God, what? And they were like, you have. You have one more chance. You have to get out of your body tonight. That's exactly what they said while I was halfway up the stairs. And they didn't say anything else, but I was like, oh. Oh, my God. Okay. Because honestly, I. I wanted. I want to. I. The thought of my kids being, like, raised by their father alone, without my influence, really, I was like, I know that I signed up to help guide these children. They need the balance of our personalities or they're really going to suffer. So they gave me another. Another chance. They didn't say anything. I climbed the rest of the stairs thinking, okay, I'll try it.
- [23:00]
LifeLock Spokesperson
I'll try.
- [23:01]
Susan Dyer
But I don't know how to astral travel on command. I'd never done it on command. I've always just, like, fallen out of my body and gone. And I know how that sounds, but I've been astral traveling my whole life, and it, you know, it was fun, you know, and I felt safe. And I was like, I loved it. And here I was, and I was like, but how do I do this? And, like, so they came right back the. When I was, like, climbing up into my bed. Because I was like, you gotta tell me. I don't know how, but I'll do it. I'll try. I didn't want to die. I didn't want to die thinking there was anything left. I didn't try, right? I. I just, like, I know myself and I'm like, I had to know. Like, until they said that I was good, but then they said. They told me how to do it. And by the way, for any of you who try this and Perhaps it doesn't work. I want to be really clear. They told me exactly what to do to astral travel on command.
- [24:28]
Alex Ferrari
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
- [24:31]
Susan Dyer
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- [25:18]
Ryan Seacrest
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- [25:49]
LifeLock Spokesperson
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- [26:51]
Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
- [26:55]
Susan Dyer
But I want to tell you I've never been able to do it again. So please don't feel discouraged or like maybe you are not connected enough, because you are. We are innately connected. And I learned that very intimately. When I died. I laid along the edge of the bed. That's what they said to do. Lay literally on the edge. And there's a. A tipping point when we're trying to sleep. It's, like, right in the middle. And I think the technical word for it is hypognic. It's like when you're half asleep and you're not. You're half. Not asleep. That's, I guess, the easiest way to put it. And in that. In that moment, they told me to roll off the bed, and that's what I did. I was terrified. I was like, well, like, what then? Like, I'm just gonna be sitting here like, okay, I'm still gonna. I. I can't. I just want to make that very clear. I was terrified. Really. I. I don't know if I've ever been that scared. I had no idea what to do do, but my higher self, you know, I'm Susan Dyer, and. And you're Alex. But 99% of us is anchored in dimensions that we can't even see or.
- [28:51]
Alex Ferrari
Feel our higher selves.
- [28:53]
Susan Dyer
Yeah, exactly. And you cannot be disconnected because we're one.
- [29:04]
Alex Ferrari
Correct.
- [29:04]
Susan Dyer
And so even if you feel like I'm alone, I'm not getting any messages. I don't know what to do. Just remember, you're always connected. It's just your emotions, you know, Just emotions. It's never fact. So when I rolled out of my bed and this is weird, it made me understand all those portals that would show up by my head when I was little, and they were different color. Excuse me. They're different colored portals. And I. They scared the hell out of me. I didn't realize I was making them to go places. I thought weird creatures were going to come in.
- [29:48]
Alex Ferrari
Imagination. Yeah.
- [29:49]
Susan Dyer
Yeah. And so, like, when I got out of my body, boom, there was the portal. But I was like, wait a second. This is, like, black gray. This is a black gray portal. It looks like. Like, it looked like a. A tunnel. Actually, when I. When I would do the portals, they would just look like a circle in the wall that, you know, you could go through. But this one looked like a pipe, and it was, like, charcoal gray and black. And I was like, what is that? That looks terrible. I'm not going that. Like, literally, I was like, oh, my God. Like, where's that Thing going to take me. It looks like it's like from a freaking horror show. But I. I knew. I was like, okay.
- [30:42]
LifeLock Spokesperson
Oh.
- [30:43]
Susan Dyer
And so it was going so fast, I had no idea what it was or where it was going, but I obviously knew. Okay, I'm supposed to go into this charcoal thing, and I. I had to, like, kind of slide, angle my. My. What's it called? Myself, when I'm out of my body. What the hell is that called?
- [31:07]
Alex Ferrari
The astral. The astral. Thank you.
- [31:08]
Susan Dyer
My astral body. I had to angle my astral body into the. This tube. And so I did. And I was like, yeah. No music, no lights, no other being. I'm like, this is. This is not cool. And then, boom. I was in a place called. A lot of people call it the Void, right? And at that point, my biggest fear in life was the dark because of all the things I've seen, you know, and so to end up in the void, which is like black, wet velvet, no sound, no noise, no other beings, and eternal, infinite. I. I couldn't even explain to you how afraid I was. But I do want to say, because this is important to me, that void. That void is essentially like God, if you want to call that energy God. That void is the feminine, receptive, womb aspect of God energy. And you could kind of consider that space like the next canvas God's going to paint. It literally is like the womb, space for whatever is next created. But I didn't know that then. So I just said. I closed my astral eyes. So weird. And I said, God, please take me somewhere safe and good. And before. This is the thing. I'm sure you guys have all heard this. There's no time in other dimensions. And there. There's not. So there's no time. There's thought. And before, like, I'm still kind of like, used to these human habits. So before I could even finish thinking my thought immediately, instantaneously, no time passing at all, I was in the void. And then I was in the masculine energy of God, which presented like blazing, blazing rays of light. And I used to think, you know, I. I don't. I don't adhere to any organized religion. But all. I mean that my job is literally like, I. I just. I love God. I would. I do every. Like, if I could be like a nun that could still have, like a partner with no organized religion, I would do it. Like, I mean, I like everything I do, you know, if I could. If I could have one legacy, it would be to tell people, like, there's Nothing to fear. There. There is nothing to fear. God. God is God. I was in those rays. I thought God was really vague before. Like, God is the energy that makes things. And that's incorrect. My. My experience showed that God knew me better than my best friend. We had this exchange without speaking, just by thought. God. And this is like, what people don't like to hear. And this is what they don't even, like, let me publish, actually. But I realized when I was like, kind of like a tea bag floating, like in those rays and having this exchange with God, I realized, and this is gonna maybe sound weird, but it's okay.
- [36:03]
Alex Ferrari
I mean, we've gone past weird a while ago, so go ahead.
- [36:06]
Susan Dyer
Yeah, that's right. That's so true.
- [36:09]
Alex Ferrari
Yeah. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
- [36:15]
State Farm Spokesperson
This stress check, AKA friendly reminder that your hobbies matter, is brought to you by State Farm because you deserve to lose yourself in the stuff that brings you joy. Here's mine. Painting my tabletop battle miniatures. Yeah, seriously. After a long day, I grab a brush, pop in some music, and just get into it. And there's no wrong way to do it. It helps me clear my head, slow down, and just breathe. But it works. Big stress Mini warriors. Total reset. No pressure. Just paint. Creativity and a little reminder of what makes me happy. Some people bake, some people garden. Me, I paint warriors with interesting tech. And guess what? It works. You don't have to be good at your hobby. You just have to enjoy it. So carve out that time, tune out the noise, and do something that's just for you. Like a good neighbor. State Farm is there.
- [37:07]
Ryan Seacrest
Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. Now through November 4th. Shop the annual beauty event and save $5 when you spend $25 on select beauty products. Shop in store or online for items like Dove Body Wash, Native Body Wash Wash, Cetaphil gentle skin cleanser, Dr. Squatch body wash, Neutrogena Hydro Boost Water Gel, Dial Liquid Hand Soap, and Olay Body wash. And save $5 when you spend $25 or more. Offer ends November 4th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.
- [37:39]
LifeLock Spokesperson
October is Cybersecurity Awareness Month, a reminder that your digital life is always at risk. Every day, hackers steal identities, drain bank accounts, and open fraudulent accounts. Lifelock is here with tips to help prevent you from becoming a victim. Use strong passwords, set up multi factor authentication on your accounts, report scams, and update the software on your devices. And for peace of mind, get LifeLock. LifeLock monitors millions of data points a second for threats to your identity. If your identity is stolen, a LifeLock US based restoration specialist will fix it, guaranteed or your money back. Plus, LifeLock plans include the million dollar protection package, meaning LifeLock will reimburse you to your plan's limits if you lose money due to identity theft. Stay smart, stay safe and stay protected. Get comprehensive identity protection with a 30 day free trial at lifelock.com, use promo code NEWS. That's lifelock.com promo code NEWS for 30 days. Free terms apply.
- [38:41]
Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
- [38:45]
Susan Dyer
I realized that I was God. I realized like I, I'm not God's child, Jesus wasn't God's son. I realized it, it was like I was a two pronged plug plugging into the outlet.
- [39:11]
Alex Ferrari
But this is a concept that's been talked about for millennia in, in ancient texts and things like that, that we are all God, we are all one, we are all connected to source. We are not apart from source.
- [39:27]
Susan Dyer
Right.
- [39:27]
Alex Ferrari
So when you say that I completely understand it and you're not the first to say something like that. And it's not outlandish if you study ancient spiritual texts and, and any, any field, any rel. Any either organized religions, but even specifically more philosophies and spirituality over the years, even the, even Hinduism and Jainism and you start going deeper and deeper. Older, older. You know, Sumerians. I mean you're talking about one with, with one. One with sorts capital.
- [39:57]
Susan Dyer
I always say capital O1.
- [40:00]
Alex Ferrari
Correct. Exactly. So that's not a, to me at least it doesn't, it's not an outlandish statement because it's been said by, by spiritual teachers throughout history.
- [40:11]
Susan Dyer
I think a lot of people who resonate with the Bible find that statement almost like that. Heresy.
- [40:29]
Alex Ferrari
Heresy. Blasphemy. Absolutely right.
- [40:31]
Susan Dyer
And then this is the thought I had immediately following that, which, which I, I'm interested in what you have to say because this is the one that get, that gets even. I, I have one video on YouTube and it, and the title is There is no Sin. And I think it's like my, maybe one of my most popular videos. I've had to erase almost every comment because every comment's basically telling me like I'm an evil witch going to hell. But I, I thought word for word after this thing, you know, still being in God, I thought word for word I could have just murdered 10 people people right now, that that was the thought. But like to continue that Thought it was like when, you know, when I came to and I wrote for like a week, like, God is God, period. Like, if there is a big tree, the tree is not going to roll up its branches if Jeffrey Dahmer walks under it. Just like if Mother Teresa walks under the tree, the tree's not gonna, like, fluff up even more to, like, shade her.
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Alex Ferrari
Well, listen, I mean, to, to say what? To kind of get my point of view of what you're saying across. Yeah, I understand what you're saying. If you go into the, the spiritual texts of any philosophy that understands or believes in reincarnation, then all people who do, it's. It's. It's action, reaction. It's karma. It is it. So if you do something bad here, you will pay for it down the line. But not in a way that we understand it as like, punishment.
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Susan Dyer
No, it's.
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Alex Ferrari
The soul is trying to evolve, so it itself chooses to go down the path to be tested in certain ways. And if it did something that was hurt or was negative towards someone else, they will feel that in another life. And people who do it at a large scale will feel it at a large scale throughout multiple lifetimes. Again, this is basic concepts of reincarnation and karma. It's difficult for certain organized religions to understand that it is just a belief system that has been around longer than most other, you know, belief systems in, in humanity. Talking about Hinduism, Jainism, even older things in, in the east, it's mostly Eastern philosophies. Eastern, you know, religions and thoughts and beliefs is what we're talking about here. But I understand what you mean. That there is no sin. Quote, unquote. There is no sin, but if you do something here to hurt you, you will feel it. And that's what. And did you have a life review, by the way, or.
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Susan Dyer
No, I just had this exchange with God and what you're saying, like, I, I want to just add, again, there's no punishment. Like, you don't pass. And then God is like, judging, like, what you did. God is like a radio station with one song. Love, just love, freedom. Love unconditional. Just like, it's like if you, like, cut through a brick. They're just brick. God's just God. There's no reaction, nothing. But at the same time, because we are God, God knows us inside now. And you're right. Like, if we, if we do something, it's. It's our, it's our reaction, it's our decision. If we, if we look back at how we spent Our life. And we're like, and we want to fix that. And, and it's not, it is not like a panel. There's no like, there's no, there's no like system. There's no like, you know, judge and gavel. It is all just personal growth. Not no fear, like, no death. There's no punishment. You don't go somewhere if you do something like it's nothing. Is the funnest thing I've ever done.
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Alex Ferrari
Well, the one thing that I've talked to so many near death experiencers and when the life review does come up, it is really interesting because you're able to experience both your side of this, the, the interaction and the other person's side of the interaction. So if you hurt someone, you feel it.
- [45:54]
Susan Dyer
You have to actually.
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Alex Ferrari
And you feel. So then it's a teaching mechanism because totally why we're here is to learn, to grow. It's a school.
- [46:02]
Susan Dyer
Yes, this is our school.
- [46:04]
Alex Ferrari
No, no question about it. And as you continue to grow from my understanding, talking to spiritual masters, talking to near death experiencers and other people who've studied this.
- [46:15]
Susan Dyer
Yeah.
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Alex Ferrari
It is the choice of the soul, whether they want to reincarnate again or not after this life. And if they do reincarnate, they go, well, I, you know, I did that thing to that person. I got to feel what that's like. I got to go through this. And because it's kind of like, and I use this analogy, a video game, you've got to go through a tough level in order to level up to.
- [46:41]
Susan Dyer
Be able to play for sure. That's why we come here. We're ballers.
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Alex Ferrari
We're trying to level up our, yeah, our, our evolution. And that's what Ascended masters have done. People like Jesus, people like Buddha, people like Yogananda Babaji, and you can start talking about all the, you know, Saint Germain. So many different Ascended masters over the course of history. They've all leveled up to a point where they're like, I don't need to play the game anymore. And I've chosen to stay behind the scenes and help along the way because.
- [47:14]
Susan Dyer
I've heard part of them will go back down just simply to help. Do you know what I mean?
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Alex Ferrari
Right, exactly. And that's what, again, for my experiences and from my talking to so many people over the course of this show and just my own studies in, in, in philosophies and belief systems around the world, because I try and I, I try. Look, all belief systems have a core, every single one. There's Always there's a God, and generally we're souls. That is a general idea by almost every major religion on the planet. Those two concepts, and then there's like, do good to others and then do fear. But, you know, do good things and these kind of things. But then it starts getting muddy with the laws and this and the fear and all this stuff. But all it all depends on the belief system you're working with. And if you believe in one thing, that's fine. And if that gets you closer to God on this, on this run, go for it. I know wonderful Christians. I know wonderful Muslims, wonderful Hindus.
- [48:20]
Susan Dyer
Like most people don't. Actually, I challenge everyone. Like, this is a thing if, if I didn't have this experience. Like, it's almost like, like religion and, you know, sometimes like, or politics. Like, it's like, it just, like, inherited.
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Alex Ferrari
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
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Susan Dyer
Like, oh no, you're taught this so there. And like I remember when I got married and the pre canon, whatever that means, priest was like, I want you all to, to now promise that you will raise your children in this religion. And he got to me, he hated me. Big surprise. I was like, no, I was like, why? Why? I don't care if they're wicked, I don't care. They're gonna do what I want them to find their path, you know what I'm saying?
- [51:47]
Alex Ferrari
Like, but that's a change.
- [51:48]
Susan Dyer
Don't question themselves that they, they actually, they may not align with certain things. Oh, a lot of adults would rather just kind of.
- [52:04]
Alex Ferrari
Go with the, go with the flow. But you have to, but you have to also give credit to what's happening right now. There's a massive awakening happening.
- [52:10]
Susan Dyer
Yes.
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Alex Ferrari
Where people are leaving organized religions by the boatload and looking for answers, looking for their own spirituality, looking for their own connection with God without the, the fear and the, the dogma and the things like that. That's been around forever. And again, if that works for you and gets you closer to God, if.
- [52:32]
Susan Dyer
It works genuinely, then go, go with God.
- [52:36]
Alex Ferrari
Go with God, you know, but yeah, you can't. And this is the thing, you can't really force your ideas and this is very difficult, force your ideas along because if you think about it, and this is something I thought about when I was a kid, I was born Catholic, I was born in a cat, I was born in a Catholic family. So years later when I started to do some critical thinking, I go, you know, if I would have been born to Hindus, I would have been a Hindu. If I would have been born Muslim, I would have been Muslim. If I were born in a Jewish family, would have been Jewish. So I was like, so my religion and my belief system is basically what I learned from my parents. They're not inherently right or wrong. There's just, it's the same reason why you might eat a certain dish that I would find revolting because it wasn't what I grew up with. Like, but in other cultures they could eat that. And so it's, it's all about, you know, if you were born in the middle of the jungle and you know, the only thing you learned was like, the moon and the stars are God, well then that's what you know. So it's all relative to what you believe. So. But I think now there's such awakenings happening that there's so much more conversations like this. There's more people looking to shows like this to find answers that they're desperately looking for. Yeah, but they're looking for them now. There's things happening now in today's world that would have never happened 20 years ago, 10 years ago and older. This conversation was never happened. Like, you know, you were Catholic, you're Catholic, you're Jewish, you're Jewish, you're Hindu, you're Hindu. There's not, that's not conversation. But now the younger, the younger generation is saying things like, you like, why. That doesn't make sense to me. Why can't I study other philosophies, other religions? Why can't I find something that makes sense to me?
- [54:30]
Susan Dyer
Right?
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Alex Ferrari
On a, on a soul level?
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Susan Dyer
And that's, I mean, we're talking. When I came back from a year, that experience, there's like a lot more that happened, but I had to come out.
- [54:45]
Alex Ferrari
All right, so before we get. So before we come out, before we get. Because I, I always love asking that question. What else happened in the near death experience? You're there. Okay, you're in, you're in with, with the God energy.
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Susan Dyer
God. And first thing God asked you, like, he was like, you know, do you want to say, like, meeting with me? Like, do you want to say or do you wanna, do you wanna go back home?
- [55:12]
Alex Ferrari
Whoa.
- [55:13]
Susan Dyer
So weird. And sorry. That was really weird. Okay, so. And I, and so right away I manifested a huge like IMAX sized photo of my two boys. And I was like, I want to stay. And I wanted to like really show God that I meant it. And so I started pulling on my silver cord. Yeah, we have, we have so many energy lines through us.
- [55:47]
Alex Ferrari
I've heard of that before.
- [55:48]
Susan Dyer
We do, we do have a, an etheric cord. And so I just started going hand over hand and I was thinking, oh, my God, where am I? Like, how long is this going to take if I actually, like, just keep doing this? Like, this could be like, years, I don't know, like, where, you know? But anyway, God believed me. And, and we have all of this. No, nothing was spoken. God. And I promised God the word I said, or thought, whatever, though. I said, like, literally, like, word war. I said, I promise I will live transparently. Look at me. Even when I'm saying it, I'm like, oh, my God. It's like my worst fear come true. Like, I mean, I've been hiding this my whole life. I'd been feeling fraudulent and broken my whole life. I live in Washington, D.C. where, like, people wear, like, Lululemon for pajamas, you know what I'm saying? Like, my. The people I went to school with, they're all like, doctors, lawyers, they're like on the front page of the papers. Like, and I. And I've just directly promised God to speak openly about everything I never say and was going to take to the grave. And I knew, I knew intuitively that that transparency was to the end of helping other women find themselves, you know, if they're starting their way. Like, that's so that I said, I. When I woke up, I was like, I don't know what you want me to do, guys. You're gonna have to tell me, but I'll do it. But so, so that's what I do now with that transparency. I mean, I talk about everything absolutely truthfully, and it's. I still feel so, like, what's gonna happen? I mean, because I know how it sounds, but I'm well educated, I'm very cultured. I've been around the world. Like, you know, I have like, a very high iq, but I have to say these things that literally make me sound like I should be in, in a mental hospital to the end of comforting and inspiring other women in particular. And so I, I made that promise to God and I. And I knew what that meant, really. And then all of a sudden, Jesus, I went from God to Jesus. And I, you know, I have had a really hard time with, with my church. Like, I've had some bad experiences with my priest. And I, I really never, like all those years of Sunday school, I, I would get in arguments with them all times. Like, you know, like, I. And my confirmation interview ended up being like a mafia, like, showdown because it was just like, I. It's just like, terrible. I got, I understand, kidnapped by a fundamentalist Christian horse wrangler. It's just you can't make this stuff up. It's so weird. So Jesus was there and I was like, what? Like, I really, I was like Jesus. And the thing that really messed me up was that he looked like the Jesus of like rich white people. Like, he had like light brown beautiful hair, like a very, like, well trimmed beard and like gorgeous blue eyes.
- [60:15]
Alex Ferrari
And.
- [60:15]
Susan Dyer
Like a perfectly like cream colored robe with a tie. And, and that for a second I was like, what? Like, okay, we know Jesus didn't have blue eyes. I'm sure he had like dark, dark hair. I'm sure he had like dark skin.
- [60:37]
Alex Ferrari
Sure, sure, sure.
- [60:38]
Susan Dyer
This guy looked. I mean that I was like, you know, I was like, Jesus. I was like, what? I'm like, what are you? Like, why, why you. And why, why do you have to look like that? And that's also what I want to say is that if, if Jesus had come to me in that moment looking like how he really did during that lifetime, I would have been unsure of who he was.
- [61:10]
Alex Ferrari
Correct, correct.
- [61:12]
Susan Dyer
So he presented himself in the stereotypical Christmas card Jesus.
- [61:20]
Alex Ferrari
That's what I've. That's what I've heard before. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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Alex Ferrari
And now back to the show.
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Susan Dyer
Oh my God. My God. But I was like, I was really confused because every time I went to church, if I saw like the beach, like they always have like Jesus like hammered up on the cross.
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Alex Ferrari
I know, I know.
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Susan Dyer
And the bloodier and like, you know, the bloodier and the more thorns, like, like the more blood and like, the more, the more I can't like, deal with it. It's just, I'm just like, oh my, this is so crazy. What are we doing? Like, And I would start, like, I always think I've never said this for, like every time I go to church, like a wedding or funeral. Funeral is bad too, because then I'm like, I'm seeing the person who's dead. Like, totally not care. But anyway, like, so, so Jesus shows up and he goes and he puts his palms Both palms out like this. Can you see? Yeah. And he goes, he was ignoring my, like, freak out. And he put his palms out and he said, do you want to get well? No, no, I'm sorry. He said, do you want to get better? And I was like, oh, my God, yes, yes, I want to get better. And I grabbed his hand and I started shouting over and over, I'm going to get better as fast as I can. I was shouting, screaming. I mean, not really, but your thoughts thoughtfully, over and over and over. I was just saying it. And I grabbed Jesus's hand and we flew through. It's like, you know, just imagine the room you're in now and imagine that room, like, was nothing but every single shade of green that you could ever imagine. Just glorious. Just like, makes you want to cry, you know, like you're flying through this divine kaleidoscope of green and green traditionally, and I say traditionally because there are so many people with different energy makeups. Like my root chakra is a metallic color.
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Alex Ferrari
So what is green?
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Susan Dyer
Green traditionally is the heart chakra and Archangel Raphael. And traditionally Archangel Raphael is the, you know, the healer and presents, usually for people who see this way, presents as the color green. So during this flight, I read like this was the healing. And I want to say something really quickly before the last thing, which is two years after my, my near death experience, Jesus. I was channeling while meditating and Jesus came through. This is really actually cool. I want everyone to hear this because it, it is relevant to every human. For two years I had been making videos and thinking about my experience and describing it as Jesus healed me. And when I was like, my channeling got better and better and better, whatever. Two years later, when I was talking to Jesus and I was channeling him, he said, susan, you need to realize I did nothing. You. You healed yourself. He said, I was there for the ride. I was there as a best friend or a teddy bear. But we needed to get you up and out of the fray of this dimension so that you can. So that you could remember who and what you really are. And then healing myself in that remembrance would be not a problem at all. And it wasn't. It was easy as however long we were flying through that green and I was in remembrance of who I was. And, and during that flight is when, when, you know, I healed myself. And I think that is for everybody. Everybody has that within them. I mean, it's so hard to, to believe, especially like if somebody's, you know, on a walker or, you know, like an Incredible pain or it's like it's very hard to be like to, to consider that and that, that and that was the point there was that I was not able to remember the divinity within well enough in my broken down body on earth. I had to get like up there, closer to the source to remember who and what I was. And then I healed myself.
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Alex Ferrari
Fair enough.
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Susan Dyer
Yeah, Susan is pretty funny.
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Alex Ferrari
But Susan, can you tell people where they can find you and the work that you're doing?
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Susan Dyer
Totally. So you can go to my website, Susan Dyer.com and that's Dyer is D as in dog Y E R.
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LifeLock Spokesperson
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Susan Dyer
You can find me on YouTube. Susan Dyer. 11:11. I have a huge women's Facebook group called Divining Women. And then I am on Patreon just by my name. So I offer mentorships which are pretty intense that are long and we go through each chakra month by month. And I also offer just, you know, like one off sessions for anyone who has something going on. And those sessions are usually just like one hour. And then on Patreon you can like I teach classes.
- [69:15]
Alex Ferrari
True.
- [69:15]
Susan Dyer
Like the, my patrons tell me they're like, okay, we, we want to channel this person, this class or we want to deepen our clairvoyance this class. Like I, I basically take it from my students, like do you want to channel someone and you can ask them questions or is there a lesson or a practice or technique I can help you with? And I do that on Patreon.
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Alex Ferrari
Susan, thank you so much for, for your story and for sharing everything you did with us today. And, and thank you for all the stuff that you're doing to help other people and women throughout, throughout their journey in life. So I appreciate you my dear. Thank you again for being on the show.
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Susan Dyer
Thanks. Ha. I love what you're doing too.
- [70:04]
Alex Ferrari
I want to thank Susan so much for coming on the show and sharing her story with all of us. Thank you so much, Susan. If you want to get links to anything we spoke about in this epis, head over to the show notes@nextlevelsoul.com 165. Now if this conversation stirred something in you, there's more waiting. You can listen to this episode completely commercial free on next level Soul TV's app where Soul meets streaming. Watch and Listen on Apple iOS, Android, Apple TV, Roku, Android TV, Fire TV, LG and Samsung apps anytime, anywhere. Begin your awakening at next levelsoul TV. Thank you so much for listening. As I always say, trust the journey. It's there to teach you. I'll see you next time.
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