NLS 647: Why You Need More Than Just a Psychic Reading with Marisa Liza Pell

Summary

---

Next Level Soul Podcast with Alex Ferrari

Episode NLS 647: "Why You Need More Than Just a Psychic Reading" with Marisa Liza Pell

Release Date: December 13, 2025
Guest: Marisa Liza Pell (Master Intuitive Channel & Transformational Mentor)
Host: Alex Ferrari

---

Episode Overview

In this dynamic and insightful episode, Alex Ferrari welcomes back Marisa Liza Pell for a candid exploration into the limitations of traditional psychic readings and the urgent need for deeper, embodied healing and purpose-driven action in today’s world. Through honest, often humorous, and always grounded conversation, they dive into topics ranging from the pitfalls of spiritual bypassing to the science of somatic healing, the importance of capacity, and how trauma wiring limits our access to both intuition and authentic creativity.

The episode takes listeners beyond the superficial entertainment of “getting a reading,” urging them to embrace inner work, embodied presence, and the activation of their unique mission—especially in a global moment demanding grounded leadership and connection.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Authenticity & Humor in Spiritual Work

Timestamps: 03:08 – 05:27

• Marisa and Alex riff on authenticity, humor, and the importance of not taking oneself too seriously—even in weighty spiritual work.
• Quote:

  “My whole job is serious. Like, you need humor is healing. Laughter is healing… you can’t take yourself too serious.”
  — Marisa Liza Pell at 05:12

Who Is Marisa Liza Pell?

Timestamps: 05:55 – 06:27

• Quick intro: Marisa is a master intuitive channel and transformational mentor, blending intuition, channeling, and somatic healing anchored in scientific understanding.
• Her mission: help people heal core emotional wounds and step into purpose.

The Problem with Chasing Psychic Readings

Timestamps: 16:28 – 18:28

• Alex discusses his evolution from compulsively seeking psychic answers to recognizing the internal fear behind it.
• They explore the danger of overreliance on external guidance and the need to look within.
• Quote:

  “When the person gets obsessed or addicted to needing to know… now you’re giving your power to something outside of yourself. You should be looking within.”
  — Alex Ferrari at 17:49

Why Marisa Stopped Giving Readings

Timestamps: 18:28 – 19:46

• Marisa shares that she stopped doing readings for three years after realizing readings alone weren’t helping people stop deep-seated patterns.

Timing and “Psychic Amnesia”

Timestamps: 21:22 – 22:48

• Discussion around how psychic impressions are sometimes validated long after a session.
• Quote:

  “They expect everything to be accurate right away… and then three weeks later, a horse somewhere comes into play… and all of a sudden that horse thing [makes sense].”
  — Alex Ferrari at 21:52

• Marisa calls this “psychic amnesia”—people often forget or block out information that doesn’t fit their expectations in the moment.

Distinction: Psychic Work vs. Mediumship

Timestamps: 26:07 – 28:08

• Psychic readings access collective and earth-plane energies, whereas mediumship accesses energies/personality of the departed.
• Mediumship and psychic abilities are not identical and tuning in requires a conscious energetic shift.

The Information Overload Crisis

Timestamps: 09:01 – 09:57 / 29:15 – 29:23

• Marisa warns of an “information crash,” where technology and social media create a trance state, keeping people unfulfilled, detached, and negative.
• “If your whole time is spent watching the news, commenting on socials, doom scrolling and writing negativity—you're not helping the world at all.”
  — Marisa Liza Pell at 09:29

The Real Work: Somatic Healing & Capacity

Timestamps: 28:35 – 44:11

• True healing and alignment to purpose require addressing trauma and stuck energy in the body’s nervous system—intellectual knowledge is not enough.
• Marisa explains her somatic, science-based healing approach, focusing on raising capacity for presence and connection.
• Quote:

  “You really have a choice of what type of experience you’re having here… If you do the work you need to do, which is NOT fun, people!”
  — Alex Ferrari at 28:49

• Quote:

  “Intuition doesn’t work in a vacuum… intuition really is meant to be in motion.”
  — Marisa Liza Pell at 42:41

The Earth Needs Embodied Light, Not Just Spiritual Escapism

Timestamps: 31:29 – 36:39

• Marisa shares recent channeled transmissions: “The earth is in trouble… Even lightworkers now are being called to GROUND.” (32:05)
• Stresses that this is not a time for further spiritual escape, but for anchoring back into the body, healing trauma, and activating purpose through embodied leadership.

Grounding as the Missing Link

Timestamps: 36:53 – 38:39

• Alex and Marisa stress the key role of grounding—both physically and spiritually.
• “The body has the DNA within it which holds our mission. But we have to come home.”
  — Marisa Liza Pell at 38:13

Spiritual Bypassing, Triggers, and the Trap of Information

Timestamps: 29:53 – 33:19

• It’s not about accumulating more knowledge, spa treatments, or weekend workshops; if you’re not changing patterns, you’re not doing the true work.
• “Stop reading the books. Stop listening… More information is not going to get you anywhere. Just stop. Just stop it.” — Marisa Liza Pell at 29:15

Individual Healing as the Key to Collective Change

Timestamps: 51:35 – 52:21

• The role of embodied example: “No, you need to save yourself. And once you’re able to do that, your example will start lighting up people around you.”
  — Alex Ferrari at 51:41

The Nervous System, Capacity, and True Intuition

Timestamps: 52:57 – 56:34

• True fulfillment and intuition for self require calming the nervous system (accessing “ventral vagal state”), not just performing or producing.
• Many high achievers are disconnected internally and need “internal space”, not more external achievement.

Modern Disconnection and Faux Connection

Timestamps: 56:17 – 60:00

• Social media and outward projection create the illusion of connection; real connection is found through presence, simplicity, and community.
• “We're more connected than we’ve ever been, but the loneliest we've ever been.”
  — Alex Ferrari at 57:25

The Three-Stage Hero/Healer’s Journey

Timestamps: 83:15 – 88:08

• Marisa describes 11 years of “elevation” (external work), followed by an enforced pause (sabbatical & inner healing), and now a call to embodied creativity and grounded purpose.
• Alex and Marisa reflect on how their own paths have followed this pattern—moving from skill-building, to deep healing, to the integration of creativity and spiritual service.

Actionable Advice: How to Shift Your Vibration Instantly

Timestamps: 61:55 – 66:29

• Three simple but powerful steps:

  1. Stop watching the news for 5 days.
  2. Be aware of what you speak: refrain from negative, dramatic, or medical talk.
  3. Be careful what you consume and engage with online—avoid activating or downward-spiraling content.

• Quote:

  “Choose what you consume. Choose what you say about yourself. Choose what you say about other people.”
  — Marisa Liza Pell at 106:04

Embodiment, Simplicity, and Returning to Creativity

Timestamps: 102:05 – 103:30

• The importance of returning to what inspires and grounds us—creative work, play, and simplicity.
• “It’s about doing less. Talking less. Less information. It’s about simplification… That’s scary for a lot of people because that leaves a lot of room to be with themselves.”
  — Marisa Liza Pell at 103:54

---

Most Notable Quotes

• On Shadow Work & Authentic Guidance:

  “People kind of dance around problems. And the real healing happens when you go at it.”
  — Alex Ferrari at 08:07

• On Overreliance on Readings:

  “That is a danger of psychic mediums… When the person gets obsessed or addicted to needing to know… you’re giving your power to something outside of yourself.”
  — Alex Ferrari at 17:49

• On the Next Spiritual Step:

  “We need as many of those pillars of light activated as possible to start to bring the earth back online… The more people awaken, the better it is for everybody.”
  — Marisa Liza Pell at 36:40/36:45

• On the Pitfalls of Information Overload:

  “More information is not going to get you anywhere. Like, just stop. Just stop it.”
  — Marisa Liza Pell at 29:15

• On Capacity Expansion:

  “You just don’t have the capacity to reach the next level of vibration, hold it, and maintain it and keep it. And that’s why you see people… blipping.”
  — Marisa Liza Pell at 74:53

• On Social Media & Purpose:

  “If you’re just doom scrolling and writing negativity—you’re not helping the world at all… You’re not doing the job you’re supposed to be doing, which is making an impact.”
  — Marisa Liza Pell at 09:29

• On the “Trolls”:

  “Usually people who are writing this stuff, they weren’t heard, seen, or understood. They want to be heard. So go out and do something more creative with your time... That’s going to bring you joy.”
  — Marisa Liza Pell at 107:53

---

Memorable Moments

• Alex’s Grandpa Shows Up (Again)!

  • Marisa recaps the fun, quirky details that came up in her previous reading with Alex (“he doesn’t like your underwear!”)—showcasing the authenticity of evidence-based mediumship. (19:53 – 20:33)

• The “Stop It” SNL Therapy Skit Reference:

  • Both riff on the wisdom (and humor) of direct, loving confrontation. (06:43 – 07:20)

• Connection to 80s/90s Nostalgia:

  • Discussion emerges on media, nostalgia, and why we hunger for connection—explaining the world’s first “Nostalgia Park” (77:27 – 83:15)

• Advice to the Angry Commenter / “Troll”:

  • Marisa addresses those who lash out online, framing their pain with compassion and calling them to creative, purpose-driven action (106:15 – 109:34).

---

Important Timestamps & Topics

| Time | Segment | |------------|---------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:08 | Authenticity, humor, and East Coast directness in spiritual work | | 05:55 | Marisa’s background and approach to healing | | 09:29 | The trance of information overload & “doom scrolling” | | 16:28 | The danger of addiction to psychic readings | | 18:28 | Why Marisa stopped reading professionally for years | | 21:22 | Psychic amnesia and later confirmations | | 26:07 | Psychic readings vs. mediumship—energetic distinctions | | 29:15 | Spiritual bypass and the myth of “more information” | | 31:29 | The urgent need for embodied light-workers on Earth | | 36:53 | The importance of grounding—spiritual and physical | | 51:41 | Individual transformation as the source of collective change | | 52:57 | Nervous system health, intuition, and fulfillment | | 74:53 | The concept of capacity—why self-sabotage is a myth | | 102:05 | Returning to creativity, inspiration, and simplicity | | 106:15 | Compassionate advice for critics/trolls |

---

Key Takeaways

• A reading alone is not enough: True progress requires deep somatic healing, releasing trauma from the body, and increasing your capacity to receive, act, and embody your soul’s mission.
• Stop outsourcing your power: External input (psychic or otherwise) can guide, but healing and transformation are internal, embodied processes.
• Embrace the hard work: Shadow work, trauma release, and nervous system regulation are essential, and rarely “fun”—but they are transformational.
• Your unique light is needed, now: Amid global uncertainty, the path is not further spiritual escapism but coming “back home” to your body, purpose, and creative gifts.
• Limit information overload: Consuming endless content (even “positive”) can block action and trap you in passivity—choose quality over quantity.
• Your healing ripples out: By saving and transforming yourself, you inspire others and shift collective consciousness.

---

For More Information

• Marisa Liza Pell:
  marissalizapel.com | connectionbeyond.com
  (As Marisa says: “Just Google me, you’ll find me.” – 105:46)

---

In the Words of Marisa (Final Wisdom)

“It’s about doing less. It’s about talking less. It’s about less information. It’s about simplification, simplifying your life. And that’s scary for a lot of people because that leaves a lot of room to be with themselves… but when you experience true space, you get very guarded with it… My world has gone from this to this. Because I know I want reciprocal relationships in my life today.”

— Marisa Liza Pell at 103:54

---

Listen, ground, act—and remember: growth comes by coming home to yourself.

---

Transcript

[Alex Ferrari]

Hey, I'm Freddie Prinze Jr. On my podcast Wrestling with Freddy, we talk about what happens when things take a turn in and outside of the ring. Like when the heel wrestlers back you up into a corner and your tag team partner jumps in to have your back. It helps to have backup. That's why so many people turn to their State Farm agent to help choose the coverage you need and to be there when it counts. Because when life gets unpredictable, it's good to know someone's in your corner. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.

[Marissa Lizapel]

With stays under $250 a night, VRBO makes it easy to celebrate sweater weather. You could book a cabin, stay with leaf views for days. Or a brownstone in a city where.

[Commercial Narrator]

Festivals are just a walk away.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Or a lakeside home with a fire.

[Commercial Narrator]

Pit for cozy nights with friends.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Or if you're not a sweater person, we can call it corduroy weather. More flexible. And with stays under $250 a night, you can book a home that suits your exact needs.

[Commercial Narrator]

Book [e-mail] this is Kate Max from Post Run High with Kate Max. Degree Advanced, the world's number one antiperspirant, provides up to 72 hours of protection against sweat and odor that comes with life. Degree is the wake up workout. Antiperspirant, the dashing, darting, carpool, honking, get the kids off to school. Antiperspirant, the work from home and do the laundry, grocery shop on your lunch hour, never take a break. Antiperspirant. So do what you need to do. Work how you need to work. Sweat moves you forward. Degree is here to make sure it doesn't hold you back. Degree Here for sweat.

[Alex Ferrari]

Welcome to Next Level Soul, the place where we deep dive into the mysteries of existence, uncover hidden layers of consciousness, and explore the journey of the soul. I'm your host, Alex Ferrari, and every week we sit down with the world's leading spiritual teachers and mystics, scientists and truth seekers to illuminate the path towards awakening. Here, we ask questions that truly matter. Why are we here? Where are we going? And how do we elevate our lives, our purpose, and our consciousness to the next level? This is a space for transformation, a space for expansion. A space to remember who you really are. So take a deep breath, open your mind, and prepare to step into your next Level soul. Now, if you're ready to take your spiritual journey to the next level, explore Next Level Soul tv, our streaming platform filled with exclusive movies, docs, original shows, transformative series, guided meditations, channeling sessions, audiobooks, and deep spiritual teachings you won't find anywhere else. New content drops every week, helping you expand your consciousness and live from your highest potential. Start your journey today at Next Level Soul tv. The views, opinions, and statements expressed by our guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the beliefs or positions of Next Level Soul, its host, or any of the companies they represent. Now let's dive into today's episode. I like to welcome back to the show returning champion Marissa Liza.

[Marissa Lizapel]

How you doing, Rosie? How are you? I'm so happy to be here in the studio in Austin.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yes, thank you so much for. For driving down.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, you drove down. It was a.

[Alex Ferrari]

It.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Was this a self journey experience?

[Alex Ferrari]

Yes. Well, I'm so happy to have you here. We've. We've gone off to a late start because all we did was just chat in the other room for, like, 45 minutes. So, like. So I was like, oh, we gotta get going. Our last conversation, people absolutely adored. They love your energy, love your authenticity. And I use that as a big quotation. You were joking about that because people think. Like I said, well, how else am I supposed to be if I'm not authentic, should I be fake?

[Marissa Lizapel]

Like, I don't get how, like, you're not supposed to be any other way. Like, I really don't like what you see out there. Before we start here. Same exact person. Same exact person.

[Alex Ferrari]

Exactly. The person I just spent 45 minutes without. There is the same person who's sitting in front of me right now, and vice versa. I try to be. People came to. People came to the Ascension conference. Literally. They're like, I just wanted to see if Alex was real. And like.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Like a cardboard cutout. Like, what?

[Alex Ferrari]

No, like. Like, if I was real in the sense of, like, is he really that person that I see on the show? I'm like, absolutely. Like, I'm. Did you see another version of me out there?

[Marissa Lizapel]

I did, actually, A little bit. You're actually even more funny and more animated.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yep.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah. Not as serious, like, sometimes, but I think you're. I even, like. I even like what I've seen even more. Yeah, well, I usually.

[Alex Ferrari]

This is just an instinctual thing. When I interview people, I. I match their energy.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

So. So when I had Guru Nath here from India, I'm not cracking a whole lot of jokes because it's a very serious, powerful, you know, centered man. And his message is very, you know, boom. And. And, yeah, he does tell jokes and here and there, but it's not that energy with you. I have a feeling it's gonna be a little different.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Well, let's make it that energy.

[Alex Ferrari]

Absolutely.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Because life is serious enough. I tell people, like, my whole job is serious. Like, you need humor is healing. Laughter is healing.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yes, it is.

[Marissa Lizapel]

And so, like, you can't take yourself too serious.

[Alex Ferrari]

Absolutely. So we are. So normally I usually have my iPad here with questions, but I decided to.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Go, wow, Raw dog. Yeah. I think that's the best way.

[Alex Ferrari]

I think just a little raw action. We're just going to just enjoy this conversation. I do it every once in a while just to see where it goes. And you have a whole lot of stuff to talk about. But before we get going, can you tell everybody who didn't see the first episode, which was a big hit.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Thank you.

[Alex Ferrari]

Who. Who you are and what you do. Just a quick, like, 60 seconds.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yes. So I'm Marissa Lizapel. I'm a master intuitive channel and also a transformational mentor as well. So I do a lot of work with intuition, but also a lot of work with somatic healing. So I combine science now and spirituality so people can actually be free of their core emotional wounds, and so they can actually step into their purpose, because that's what the world needs right now. So that's what we help people to do.

[Alex Ferrari]

What I love about you and the way that you do what you do is it's a no BS east coast coast vibe. It's just like. I'm like, stop it. Did you ever see that. Oh, God, this great Saturday Night Live skit from years ago with Bob Newhart back. Back in the day?

[Marissa Lizapel]

I don't know if I saw that.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's a great one. He's playing a therapist, and this woman comes in and she's like, doctor, thank you so much for seeing me. And he's the doctor sitting there. He's like, oh, no problem, no problem. Like, I just takes months to get in here. And, you know, they say you're the best. She's like, well, thank you. Thank you. So say. And then she's like, oh, go ahead, tell me what's wrong. And she just starts babbling about her life and things like that. But not in, like, serious stuff, like, all BS kind of stuff.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

He's like, okay, yeah, yeah, it's good. Good, good, good. He goes, all right, I'm going to give you a therapy here, all right? This is going to change your life, right? I need you to take a pen and write this down. Okay? Stop it.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Just.

[Alex Ferrari]

Just stop it.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Just stop.

[Alex Ferrari]

Just stop it. And it's the funniest I send it to all my therapist friends because that's what a therapist would want to say to people. Yeah, just stop it.

[Marissa Lizapel]

And sometimes I do.

[Alex Ferrari]

And sometimes when you yell at them, sometimes it does.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I had to, like, pull it back. I have some new people I'm working with, and I have people that have been with me a long time. And then I'm like, oh, I can't be talking to them the same way I talk to the people that know me because they say, I love your authenticity until that comes out. Like, you know, until it comes out.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, yeah, everyone loves the authenticity until it's aimed at them.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

Everyone wants to go to heaven, but.

[Marissa Lizapel]

It'S out of love. It's out of love.

[Alex Ferrari]

Exactly. You know what the. That's the thing I think is missing in today's world, especially in the spiritual space, is that people kind of dance around problems. And the real healing happens when you go at it.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

Like, you go head on. And that's what you need to do. The shadow work, the deep work, the, you know, I got to figure this stuff out kind of thing, as opposed to kind of dancing around it. And by the dancing around it, then you say that you're healing or you're saying that you're getting over things, but the core problem is still there.

[Marissa Lizapel]

That's right.

[Alex Ferrari]

No matter how many retreats you go, no matter how many books you read, you got to actually do the hard work.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

And every once in a while you need. And that's some, like, some of the gurus on the wall who lived in the 20th century, they. No, no joke. They just look at you and like, stop it. Like, they go. They go to the core of what your problem is. And a lot of people, especially in today's world, can't handle that. They're like, what? Like, what do you mean I have to do the work? I'm like, can't I just wake up enlightened?

[Marissa Lizapel]

Like, no, no, that's not the way it works. Intellectual knowledge is not going to fix it.

[Alex Ferrari]

No.

[Marissa Lizapel]

And we have so much information coming at us right now.

[Alex Ferrari]

Right.

[Marissa Lizapel]

And I talked about this on another podcast I was on a few months back, and I talked about an information crash coming where. It's just where the darker energies are coming from right now is they're trying to pull us in through the technology portal, trying to pull us down to where people are just in a trance, trying to get dopamine. It just like social media. Click, click social media. And if you're sitting on and I'm gonna just be upfront with it. I don't care. Because I'm just gonna say it. That's right.

[Alex Ferrari]

Love you.

[Marissa Lizapel]

So if you're sitting there commenting on videos and just talking about what you don't like in the world and what you don't like about people, like you're not doing the job you're supposed to be doing, which is making an impact because that's what the world needs right now. So if your whole time is spent watching the news and I mean, you have to be informed, but watching the news, commenting on socials, doom scrolling and writing negativity like you're not helping the world at all.

[Alex Ferrari]

There was a story you told me outside about someone who commented on something that.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

Do you mind telling that story? Because I thought was so beautiful what your, your partner said and how he dealt with it.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah. So, you know, we, we obviously have a few people that are, you know, actually read our emails of people and we have great people. I'm really lucky. Been doing this a really long time. I have great people. But you know, sometimes you just have somebody who is. Decides that they're in pain, which is where it comes from, and they need to like, let it out. They need to just project it onto somebody because they're in pain. Usually it's because somebody in this industry screwed them over.

[Alex Ferrari]

Fair enough.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Right. So they feel like they've been wronged and all.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now everybody in the industry is the same way.

[Marissa Lizapel]

We're all frauds.

[Alex Ferrari]

Everybody.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Right. But I said this. Let me get back to it. But I said this to somebody on a thread somewhere. I was like, don't you realize, like, there's frauds everywhere? Like every industry, like real estate. You have a real estate fraud, you got a car, you know, finance, of course, you know, your priest, whatever. And it's like, why are we so focused on people in this industry? Right? But usually it's because they're upset because they've been scammed or taken over. But then they think everyone's like that, which I get. You know what I mean? So this is a person that wasn't even a client, wasn't even somebody that bought a product, you know, not in my programs or anything. Just decided they want to just email the office and just talk about, like, just say a bunch of stuff. Right. About how they don't, you know, like, whatever. I don't, I'm not gonna get into it.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

[Commercial Narrator]

Okay. Only 10 more presents to wrap you're almost at the finish line. But first. There, the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.

[SpinQuest Advertiser]

I'm here with spinquest where you can play and win from the comfort of your own home with hundreds of slot games and all of the table games you love with real cash prizes. Right now, $30 coin packs are on sale for $10. For new users, it's [e-mail] that's S P I N Q U E-S-T.com SpinQuest.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Is a free to play social casino void where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Heather is a nurse practitioner from UnitedHealthcare.

[Commercial Narrator]

We meet patients wherever they live.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

During a house call, she found Jack had an issue.

[Commercial Narrator]

Jack's blood pressure was dangerously high.

[Marissa Lizapel]

It was 217 over 110.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

So they got Jack to the hospital and got him the help he need.

[Commercial Narrator]

He had had a stamp placed in his heart preventing a massive heart attack.

[Marissa Lizapel]

If it wasn't for my guardian angel, I wouldn't be here.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Hear more stories like [e-mail] benefits, features and or devices vary by plan, area limitation and exclusions apply.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Marissa Lizapel]

But luckily I have people on my staff that we're just not like, oh, we're just gonna ignore you or we're just going to make it fluffy. No, he went in and was like, can you just let me know like, why you felt it was necessary to like decide to email us and say this like. And they actually had a dialogue. He actually went down, they had a dialogue till they got to the other side and parted ways amicably.

[Alex Ferrari]

And she said at the very end.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, I mean it wasn't like a full on apology, you know. You know, but like she had said, I forget exactly.

[Alex Ferrari]

What I told you, if I remember correctly, is like, well, no, no one's ever. I've never had any success in my life, so why should you? Or something along those lines. Yeah, something along those lines. Nothing ever good happened to me.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Exactly.

[Alex Ferrari]

Nothing ever good happened to me. So why should you be happy?

[Marissa Lizapel]

It wasn't about saying it, me directly being happy. It was just kind of like, well, she had something happen to her with a healer or something and felt like she paid all this money and yeah, I don't know exactly because I didn't, I wasn't the one responding to the emails. But she's just like, why should I be happy? Because nothing ever good happened and this stuff is all BS and you know, so.

[Alex Ferrari]

But I got Cord into. It's like if you just keep asking the word why?

[Marissa Lizapel]

Well, why? Why?

[Alex Ferrari]

Eventually you'll get to the core.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah. And we don't, we're not like customer service. Like, yeah, we're great to our customers. Therapists. No, but like, if you want to be rude to our staff, like, you're not. You want, you want. Nobody's gonna be mean to you. But like I allow them to have dialogue.

[Alex Ferrari]

Like, why? Like why?

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, why? Why do you feel it necessary to spend your time to reach out and talk?

[Alex Ferrari]

Like, I've said the same thing. I'm like, I. There's a lot of things I disagree with in this world, right? And I don't go to those channels or those emails or those websites or watch that content and then go in and go, you know what, Mother? Like, why? I don't have the time.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Don't go there.

[Alex Ferrari]

I just don't go there.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Just don't go there.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's not.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Just don't watch, just don't go there.

[Alex Ferrari]

Exactly. It's. It's fascinating.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I have this belief, like, because I'm a business owner, I'm, I'm really into supporting small business and people being entrepreneurs because I've been for almost 30 years, right? So even if I get really bad service or even if something really like, I believe wrong happens, like, I will not go online and batch that business because I support small business. I will go to them directly. But when people say they support small business or they're business owners and then go on and try to like fluff it around and like, oh, I'm so nice and I'm just writing comments. Oh, by the way, let me write these comments about a business. It's just like you're not really supporting business.

[Alex Ferrari]

I get it.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I get it. Do you know what I'm saying?

[Alex Ferrari]

I get it. I know exactly what I'm saying.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

One thing from our last conversation that I came out of our last conversation is when we were talking, you know, I told you, like, you know, I don't ask, I generally don't ask for any readings, you know, and then you did. No, but wait, wait, there's a reason I generally don't because I have, I have a lot of psychic friends. Psychic Friends Network.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Psychic Friends Network. Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

There's this lady called Ms. Cleo.

[Marissa Lizapel]

You remember Ms. Cleo?

[Alex Ferrari]

Of course I remember Ms. Cleo. Yeah.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Did you ever call the 1-800number?

[Alex Ferrari]

I never called Ms. Cleo. I might have called some other ones, but I never called Ms. Cleo this is years. I mean, when I was in my 20s or something.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I can't imagine you calling the 1-800- psychic hotline.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, I might.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I bet you did, though.

[Alex Ferrari]

I might have one point or another.

[Marissa Lizapel]

To put the quarter in and be.

[Alex Ferrari]

Like, oh, well, at that time in my 20s, I was so obsessed about the future. I was terrified. And I just wanted to know when this was gonna happen, when that was gonna happen. And it was almost an addiction, and I needed to find out constantly. So I was always in fear where now I'm not. I'm at all in fear of the future. And the funny thing is, now I have access to some of the greatest psychic mediums and channelers in the world. I could call at any time. I go, can you just read me? And they would do it for me.

[Commercial Narrator]

Y.

[Alex Ferrari]

But I never. I never do. I never call them. It was kind of like when I started my first. My first podcast. You know, when I first. My. My first podcast was all about filmmakers. I'm talking to Oscar winners and. And directors and actors. And then I get to know these people and I have access to them. I never once called, hey, can you connect me to Spielberg? Or, hey, can you. Yeah, can you pitch? And I just didn't take advantage of it because I wasn't in that place.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

Ten years earlier, I would have been. I would have been hounding them. I'm like, hey, can you. It would have been this desperation because of the control.

[Marissa Lizapel]

You had such a feeling of being out of control inside.

[Alex Ferrari]

Correct.

[Marissa Lizapel]

You just wanted some relief of knowing what's coming.

[Alex Ferrari]

Exactly. So that is a danger of psychic mediums.

[Marissa Lizapel]

That's right.

[Alex Ferrari]

Channelers and. And spiritual leaders in general. When you. When the person gets obsessed or gets really addicted to needing to know, well, that you're now giving your power to something outside of yourself, you should be looking within now. There are moments you absolutely need teachers. You absolutely need people to help you, guide you along the way. And people can kind of show you, hey, this is what I've learned. Or read this book or take this course or something like that. That's different because you're on your journey to go inside and understand these things. But if you're constantly giving your power away, this is a problem you should look into. Would you agree? As a psychic medium?

[Marissa Lizapel]

Well, that's why I stopped for three years, right. Because I realized it wasn't helping people to really, really stop the patterning that was going on.

[Alex Ferrari]

You told me that in the last one. So the reason I was gonna. I brought up the last one is because when you. When I started. When we started, like, I'm not gonna ask you anything.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, you like what you started with that? You're like, I just want to talk. I'm like, it's okay if you do. Just let me know. You're like, no, no, no, no. I just don't.

[Alex Ferrari]

But then we had this kind of rapport going on, and you were talking so much about what you like, your time on morning radio, and you were, like, under the gun all the time. And you were like, really? This fast, accurate psychic. I'm like, well, I mean, let's have some fun then. Let's see what you can do. I mean, you're putting it out there, and I've yet to. I. I mean, I know a lot of psychics. Your ability is so fast and so accurate. It was. It was kind of fat. It was kind of weird how fast and accurate because you were like. It was like a machine gun. It's like a Gatling gun of information, like, with this and this and this and this and this and this and this. I haven't looked at our interview since we did it, so I don't remember the exact detail, but I remember the feeling. I'm like, son of a. How does she. Like.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Jesus.

[Alex Ferrari]

And it's not. One thing was right. Was like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. It was, like, really interesting to see. I was like, wow, this is. This is so much fun. It was so much fun. So it was. It was really fascinating. So you stopped for three years for a reason, right? You stopped doing readings.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, I stopped doing mediumship. And I love how your grand. A lot of people had emailed in, actually, about your grandfather's personality and how they love people.

[Alex Ferrari]

People love, love that. Yeah. You were the one that was when grandpa showed up, and he's like, hey, you know what? I'm tired of Grandma always taking up the heat. I want some action.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, that's right.

[Alex Ferrari]

He came in and he talked about.

[Marissa Lizapel]

The most random things.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Like my.

[Alex Ferrari]

Is it my underwear?

[Marissa Lizapel]

And you're like, the way you did. I think. I don't.

[Alex Ferrari]

My goatee. He doesn't like the goatee because he was a mustache guy. And he's like, he was a boss dollar.

[Marissa Lizapel]

He was giving you, like. And you were like, oh, yeah. He was real weird with his money.

[Alex Ferrari]

He was. Yeah, he was very weird with his money. And he said to me. You said to me that. He's like, yeah, he doesn't like your underwear because he was A boxers guy. I'm like, what. What is happening right now? I don't know is happening.

[Marissa Lizapel]

This is what happened. People.

[Alex Ferrari]

People did love my, like, the grandfather. Grandpa. Yeah.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Because his whole personality came through. Like, that's how it is.

[Alex Ferrari]

And Grandma was there, but she's just.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Like, yeah, she just let him go.

[Alex Ferrari]

She's like, give it to him.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

Because she's always the one that whenever a medium does, like, do a reading on me on the air, Grandma's usually the one that shows up and. And my animals show up or something along those lines. Those are the ones that usually are always there. I assume she's here with me. We're not. I'm not going to ask you, but of course I will later. I'm joking, but maybe not.

[Marissa Lizapel]

But I'm just not going to believe. Like, I'll just. I'll just wait. I'm just going to, like. He could do anything.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's just so much fun with you. I just like. Like, I love your energy so much. So. Yeah. So that was a really, really interesting experience for me. So you stopped.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Well, I want to ask you something real quick.

[Alex Ferrari]

Okay, let's do it.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, let's do it. So sometimes, I don't know if you wrote down. Sometimes a lot of the details that come in, you find out, like, maybe two weeks later or a month later. So did anything. Actually, I know there were some things that were edited out.

[Alex Ferrari]

They got a little too personal.

[Marissa Lizapel]

But did. Did some of those things make sense to you later on?

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I was texting you back and forth for a little while.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I don't think we talked about that. No, we talk about other stuff. Yeah, yeah, it was.

[Alex Ferrari]

It was. Yeah. Because again, and people don't understand this about psychics. They expect everything to be accurate right away. And sometimes they'll say something like, do you know of a. Is there's a horse. There's a horse. There's a horse. And you're like, what is. There's no horses? And then three weeks later, a horse somewhere comes into play, like, oh, my God, my dog was run over by a horse. Like, and all of a sudden that horse thing.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Dog was run over by a horse. Horse. Thought of that would be a great validation.

[Alex Ferrari]

It was not so much for the dog.

[Marissa Lizapel]

No.

[Alex Ferrari]

But.

[Marissa Lizapel]

His dog was run over by a horse. Really? So you just like, I see a.

[Alex Ferrari]

Horse all the time. There's a horse. There's some. Something's happening on a horse. I can't see anything else but the horse. And you're like, I don't even have a horse. And then all of a sudden, three weeks later, your dog is run over. It's a very graphic way of looking at it.

[Marissa Lizapel]

But just in the wild west, it was just obviously, obviously I had somebody write something in their journal. Nine years later they would, they would come to me once a year. Nine years later it happened. Nine years.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's interesting. Is it? Because that's the thing that people don't get is like you're, you're just getting impressions of things that are coming and you really don't know when. Sometimes the timing is off. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

[Commercial Narrator]

Okay. Only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line. But first. There, the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.

[SpinQuest Advertiser]

Spinquest Social Casino. The presents are open and you're over the in laws. It's a perfect time to grab your phone and play spinquest.com with live dealer, blackjack, crafts and a ton of slots. And here's a great deal for the holiday. A $30 coin pack for $10. And if you're hearing this ad, you can play right now on spinquest.com Spinquest.

[Alex Ferrari]

Is a free to play social casino prohibited.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Visit spinquest.com for more details.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

UnitedHealthcare nurse Crystal checked in on a patient.

[Marissa Lizapel]

We do a routine call after surgery and I could tell in her voice that she was struggling.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Crystal knew she needed help.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I knew that this is very serious. This is like septic, this is life threatening.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

And she knew just what to do.

[Marissa Lizapel]

And I called the hospital. She's coming in. Here are her labs.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

And got her the help she needed.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I see my role at UnitedHealthcare as a life saving role.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Hear more stories like crystalshc.com benefits, features and or devices vary by plan. Area limitation and exclusions apply.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show. But sometimes it's just like they, the person getting the reading just doesn't get it at the moment. Until like I had a re. I had a reading once that I was, it floored me. It was, I won't say who it was but he was on the show and he gave me a live reading and we're like, yeah, this will be fun. Let's do a live reading or something like that. So I think the first one I did on air.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

And he told me stuff that three people on the planet knew. Me, my wife and my mom. And my mom had just told me the story two weeks earlier.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

And He. He said this, and it was, it had to do with my, My, my relatives. And it was a story. I was like, what? And I called my mom, like, right after I hung up with him. I was like, you won't believe what this person just said. And she's like, are you kidding me? And then when the episode came out, she's like, I can't believe it. But if he would have done that two weeks before, I would have been like, I don't know what you're talking about.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

But that, but the truth is there. So it just, it's all relative. Like, sometimes the information is so advanced that you won't know how it means to you. You're like, is there a Bob in your room? Is there a Bob? Like, I don't know a Bob. Then you talk to your mom a week later, like, oh, yeah, Uncle William. I'm like, William? Yeah, his name's William now.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Bob.

[Alex Ferrari]

So, yeah, you see what I mean? It's.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I call it psychic amnesia, where people, they come in, they have all the jewelry stuffed in their, in their jeans, they have the family photo they have because they're already tunnel vision on what they want to hear, what, what spirit needs to tell them what's going to come through. And I'm like, if you just let it all go, magic's gonna happen, you know? And plus, psychic stuff is very am, am, FM station. Psychic stuff is very different than mediumship stuff. It's a whole different experience, right? So if you're getting psychic reading or intuitive channeled session, that's a whole different frequency than somebody coming through on the other side. Very different experience.

[Alex Ferrari]

And. But when you're getting psychic information, where are you getting it from? If it's not from spirit, this is.

[Marissa Lizapel]

From the collective and from the earth plane and from the energies that are going on in your world and your.

[Alex Ferrari]

Spirit guides and your higher self and those kind of things.

[Marissa Lizapel]

And your life map pretty much got it.

[Alex Ferrari]

And then the medium is like, Uncle Bob.

[Marissa Lizapel]

That's like you're sitting down and you're receiving energy. So it's more like instead of speaking from a stage, you're in the audience and you're receiving. So I could be sitting here talking to you, and you think I'm talking to you, but really, I'm really listening. So it's a. It's like a reverse channel versus a forward channel. I call it the AM FM station. So I could switch back and forth that not all people that do psychic work are doing mediumship work. It's A very different distinction.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, but you can't be a medium without being a psychic.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Well, you have to receive all sorts of psychic information. Yes, but it's. It's very different in terms of even how you would experience it, because when Grandpa came through, you're almost experiencing him, his personality. He's there. I feel like I'm meeting him. But with the other stuff, it's more like pure informational stuff that's between us. On the earth plane, my energy is going forward where with the mediumship, it's going in reverse. So it's a very different process, very different energy. Well, even for me to experience it, I have to do a totally like.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah. Turn this chain. Yeah.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Turns.

[Alex Ferrari]

Taste.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah. You won't know that I'm doing it, but I'm actually tuning into a different frequency completely. And the actual method is different.

[Alex Ferrari]

Interesting.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Okay, so what they tell us, they already have a. Have a full view of what's going on, where the psychic stuff is. It's more like the decisions you're making. Then I could see kind of what's on that highway, what exits you're going off. If you change direction, we got to look into a different lane, which you can.

[Alex Ferrari]

And that's the other thing about psychic is that you have free will.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Right. We have certain destiny points we need to hit on this earth with ourselves.

[Alex Ferrari]

I call them mile marker. Mile markers on your path.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, but that's what the. That's why I brought so much about the somatic healing work last time, is because you really have a choice of what type of experience you're having here in the world. If you do the work you need.

[Alex Ferrari]

To do, which is not fun, people.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Think they're doing the work, and they're like, you know, well, I've read all these books, and I've done all this Reiki and I've gone to these spas and these retreats. I'm like, well, is your life changing? Well, no, I'm still repeating these patterns. Well, then. Then you're not doing work. Like, great job. More information, especially now, is not going to get you anywhere. Like, just stop. Just stop it. Just stop. Just stop.

[Alex Ferrari]

Stop it.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Stop reading the books. Stop listening. Then the more you put on there, the more you put on the plate, the more overwhelmed you're gonna get. Your nervous system's gonna get.

[Alex Ferrari]

And I mean, for me, like, I mean, obviously I do a show like this, and I'm putting a lot of information out there, and there are moments in your path that you do need to kind of hear ideas and hear stories and lead you down certain paths. But when it becomes so much that you're not doing any of the way, like if it's just edutainment and you're just kind of just watching it and just letting it wash over you, you're not doing anything with it. Because we, you know, this conversation. There'll probably be a couple of nuggets of gold out there.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

That'll be thrown out. But that's going to cost work.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

Are you going to apply it? Are you going to. Actually. So the perfect first nugget is like, you got to do the work. That's. But most people don't want to do because one, they either don't want to do it, secondly, they're terrified of doing it. Because doing the work means you're going to have to go in and dig up all the crap and all the things that you've been hiding and things you don't even know are hiding will start to come to surface. That's why ayahuasca and shadow work. Or was it dark medicine or dark retreats? When you just sit in a room, a dark room for six days.

[Marissa Lizapel]

That sounds traumatizing. It.

[Alex Ferrari]

It is. But when you're. But when you have nothing else to see but yourself and you have nowhere to go, your brain just, I mean, it breaks down because now you're forced, you would like this. You're forced to look at yourself in the mirror.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

And it's, it's very, very. And that's why, like ayahuasca and psilocybin, these kind of things, they force you, you know, they take you on a ride. I mean, I've never done either of them, but I can imagine it's a yogi once who's on the show said this about that, about psychedelics. He's like, well, when you take a psychedelics, like taking a sledgehammer to the wall to get a window, to get a hole to see the other side. When you meditate, it's like placing a window in it. I thought that was so beautiful. One's a lot longer, a lot more work, but you'll be ready for it. It's a slow ramp up as opposed to a. Yeah. Punch in the face.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Or we could just do the middle ground.

[Alex Ferrari]

Which is.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Which is what I do.

[Alex Ferrari]

Okay, tell me.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, I talk about the last 11 years. Like I do a lot of channel transmissions and.

[Alex Ferrari]

But you're not trans channel, right? Are you trans channel?

[Marissa Lizapel]

No, I don't do trans channeling.

[Alex Ferrari]

No, you just channel.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, I get. I get the information about humanity, where we are, what's going on.

[Alex Ferrari]

Got it.

[Marissa Lizapel]

And what came to me was very interesting in the past month about, like, where the Earth is going. So, like, we're kind of screwed. So I'll just put it out there. Right. All right. I don't, like, whatever. Like, I'm not going to be all like, woo, woo, like in the clouds, because that's not where we're at. Even lightworkers now are being called to ground. Right?

[Alex Ferrari]

Yes.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Don't be like, you want to. It's not time to go do a Reiki healing practice. It's not time to go further out into the Ethernet, the ether, whatever. It's time to come back home because the Earth is in trouble. So this isn't about, like, your personal dreams and goals anymore. It's about, like, the Earth is in trouble, humanity's in trouble. And the Earth is plummeting in frequency and disconnection. We're going further and further down in disconnection. Right. So a lot of people think there's a divide here, but really the divide is in frequency. Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

So.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Right. So 10, 11, 12 years ago, the fear grid's here and people are here that are elevating. They're doing the work. They're doing the psychic mediumship work, like what I was doing. And we could affect people here at the. In the grid. Right now the fear grid is down here. Right. People. People. You can't, you can't even get to these people anymore because they're so spiraled down into the grave frequency. Yes. So that's where the Earth is going. And, and for the last. I call it the, the elevation years, the past 11 years, it was a period of time where highly sensitive people that were born highly sensitive and who had trauma, this could be big T, little T. Traumas. In the last 11 years, they have been trying to move through their patterns. They've been trying to do everything to move through their patterns. They've done personal development work. They've done it all. And so it was getting them ready for where we are now. And I wondered, like, why did the universe want me to stop doing psychic mediumship work? Stop it for three years, go on a sabbatical, go do the personal somatic expansion work. And now I'm doing a lot more science, like with the vagus nerve work and, and helping people heal the trauma, all that stuff. I knew there was a third part to it, and I'm like, I. It wasn't revealed but it just was revealed about a month ago why, why we had to do this. The reason we have to do this is because we have to go back through our bodies, through the chakras in reverse, move through all those layers of trauma to get the light body and the pillar of light body activated again, grounded to the earth grid. And then we could start back our work. The work that we're here for the purpose work. Right. We need as many of those light pillars on the earth to then to come back on. We need all because they're going to be the leaders of consciousness.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

[Commercial Narrator]

Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line. But first. There, the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.

[SpinQuest Advertiser]

Spinquest Social Casino. The presents are open and you're over the in laws. It's a perfect time to grab your phone and play spinquest.com with live dealer blackjack craps and a ton of slots. And here's a great deal for the holiday. A $30 coin pack for $10. And if you're hearing this ad, you can play right now on Spinquest.com Spinquest.

[Alex Ferrari]

Is a free to play social casino prohibited.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Visit Spinquest.com for more details.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Heather is a nurse practitioner from UnitedHealthcare.

[Commercial Narrator]

We meet patients wherever they live.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

During a house call, she found Jack had an issue.

[Commercial Narrator]

Jack's blood pressure was dangerously high.

[Marissa Lizapel]

It was 217 over 110.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

So they got Jack to the hospital and got him the help he needed.

[Commercial Narrator]

He had had a stent placed in his heart preventing a massive heart attack.

[Marissa Lizapel]

If it wasn't for my guardian angel, I wouldn't be here.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Hear more stories like Jack's at unitedhealthcare.com benefits, features and or devices vary by plan. Area limitation and exclusions apply.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Right. So my job is to get the people that are drawn to come and do this work to help them step into their purpose by reactivating their somatic body into the light grid. I know it's like such a more advanced thing that I'm talking about. We need as many of those pillars of light activated as possible to start to bring the earth back on.

[Alex Ferrari]

Right. The more people awaken, the better it is for everybody.

[Marissa Lizapel]

So my job is to bring leaders back into leadership. But if they keep going back out there, they need to come back home through the body.

[Alex Ferrari]

You know what's interesting? The one thing I've heard actually this has been Coming up again and again in conversations, off air and on. It's about grounding.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

The grounding of the energy. The grounding of your energy is so important, especially on a spiritual standpoint, is to ground yourself. Because if you don't ground yourself, you're kind of this like, loosey goosey thing energetically. And like, I. I ground myself with ground on a physical standpoint, I ground myself all the time. I sleep with a grounding mat and.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Oh, wow.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah. And it helps.

[Marissa Lizapel]

It does so much. Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

So.

[Marissa Lizapel]

So I gotta teach you some exercises after this. Okay, I will teach me. Yeah. But you'll want to go to bed, so.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, I mean, I literally. If you could see it right there on the floor in the other set I have, there's a. Right there on the floor, there's a grounding strap.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Oh.

[Alex Ferrari]

So I usually am grounded as much as I can when I'm working and stuff like that. And it's helped dramatically. It helps with inflammation, all that kind of stuff. But I never really thought about it on a spiritual standpoint. And on a spiritual standpoint, I was talking to a guru the other day and they were talking about the importance of grounding your energy and connecting to mother Earth. And because it will stabilize you, it's like putting roots down. Is that what you're kind of talking about?

[Marissa Lizapel]

It's more. If I'm going to get back to my impact and purpose, I'm right now when the earth is where it is. Like, my job is to help raise consciousness. It's not about me giving a reading anymore. It's not about me connecting to the other side to give people hope. Like, we all know that that exists now. Like, we've already been through that period of the past 11 years. My job is to get people back home in the body because the body actually has the DNA in it which holds our mission of why we chose this body to complete the mission. But we got to come home. And so I have to take people down from up here because most people live up here. Right. They're living in the mental space. Sure. And I lived out of there for most of my career because I wasn't comfortable coming back home. Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

So stop there for a second. So, yeah, most people are living in their mental space. When you say you're out of here, that means you're basically in. In the full woo, if you will. Kind of like, are you, like, spiritually, you're out there. You're, like constantly searching for things outside or, you know, reading too many books or getting to like, what is it?

[Marissa Lizapel]

What do you mean by associated disconnected?

[Alex Ferrari]

Ah.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Okay. Yeah. Just completely checked out to where, like, you're just numb. Like, you're not even. You're not here.

[Alex Ferrari]

You're not even mental. It's like now you're not even in the mental state.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Most people that have. Do my work at, we're comfortable not being in the body. Right. That's like a. Of course. Of course. With my history and where I came from and everything else, of course I'm going to be more comfortable, more talented out of the body, but that's not going to serve where the earth's going right now. So all lightworkers right now are being called to come home so that we can. We can get ourselves back down in the body, activate the whole light pillar grid, turn on the light, and then help others to turn on their light, because that's the only way that the universe is going to raise in consciousness.

[Alex Ferrari]

What do you mean by the light pillar grid? Is that. You mean your chakras in general?

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yes. So can I talk about your energy?

[Alex Ferrari]

Why not?

[Marissa Lizapel]

Okay. All right. So remember I told you, you're stuck, like, right here. Right. So what I would do, like, if we actually went back down, it's like taking a jackhammer and going through those layers. It's like if you. If you have a paved road from the 1800s and you're trying to fix a pipe that's down there. Right. You have to go through the layers of, like, pavement. Sure.

[Alex Ferrari]

Right around the gravel and so on.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah. So some people are like, here, and they're like, I've let go of. You know, they'll tell me I've let it go. The people that hurt me in my life, I'm like, well, your body hasn't. Your body hasn't let it go. The energy is still there. So your full purpose cannot be realized until we take you down the chakras, jackhammer all those layers all the way down and light up that channel. Right. The whole pillar of light. Because that holds the DNA, it holds the mission, holds your complete purpose. If we did that work with you. Right. You would be doing something a little bit different, which is. Well, we have to see. That's your journey.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, I mean, I'm going to keep. This is obviously where I'm supposed to, but, like, it would.

[Marissa Lizapel]

It would expand and so, you know, I'm stuck here. Correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

And so that means that there's energy here that I am not.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Your diaphragm. Yes. And stomach. Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

Is. It's there's energy there that I'm not letting go.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Well, you're not deciding, of course. You. You would let it go if you could decide to let it go. A lot of people think because they've like, oh, I've forgiven that person or I've let it go.

[Alex Ferrari]

Right.

[Marissa Lizapel]

But their body hasn't. They just kind of checked out from it. Do you know what I'm saying? They really haven't. We don't actually process things into, like, if you're. If you go to, like, talk to your friend about a problem, it's not really going to solve the problem. It helps to relieve some of that stuff, but we actually have to solve it through the body. And how do you mentally process that? Those are the somatics. That's where the science comes in.

[Alex Ferrari]

Okay, so how do you, like, okay, so give me as an. Use me as an example. How would I break through?

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, I would give you a series of somatic exercises to do, like one exercise in intensity. We would. We would raise that intensity every month. Right. And so I would say, here, do this for 30 days. We would start you doing that somatic work 60 seconds a day. But I have to know what state you live in. Everybody's individual, right? So I work with you, and I'd say, just do this for 30 days. And you would see, things would just start happening. Yeah, you're. It's almost like intuition doesn't work in a vacuum. So people think intuition is static. Like, oh, I have a decision to make. I need to tune into my intuition. Right. Intuition really is meant to be in motion. So as you taking steps forward and moving toward your purpose, intuition consistently aligns as you continue to move forward.

[Alex Ferrari]

But if you're just sitting there, it doesn't come in.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Well, it can, but it's not like getting the answer. Like, people. I've talked to a lot of people, like, well, I don't know what my purpose is. Well, if I told you what it was, I guarantee you, because your inner capacity is so limited that you wouldn't even be able to fathom what I'm saying. Like, your true purpose is so much more than you even could even think of right now.

[Alex Ferrari]

You're talking about me personally.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Everyone.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, okay, everybody.

[Marissa Lizapel]

So it's like, for somebody who has. Hasn't ever really broken through some of this stuff, and I'm like, oh, your purpose psychically, is to be this big speaker on a stage, and they're like, I'm sitting home with four kids doing laundry every day. Like, what Are you talking about, like, they can't even fathom, you know?

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, I know.

[Marissa Lizapel]

So it's. It's kind of like you can get the information, but stepping into the purpose, stepping into it, taking the action is where you need the somatic work.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, because again, we'll use me as an example. When I was. I was told that I have to do this work, open up a spiritual podcast, and all this kind of craziness, I was just like, no, you are. You're out of your mind. You know, it was. My spiritual teacher told me to do it. I'm like, you're crazy. And she's like, no, you have to do it, and this is your mission. And then she told me about a mission, and I'm like, what are you talking about?

[Marissa Lizapel]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

Filmmaker. I'm like, no one's going to listen to me.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

And then I did it, and we went down the path, and then three years later, we have a million subscribers. And I'm like, what is happening?

[Marissa Lizapel]

And how did that happen? Did it happen static or did it happen in motion?

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, no, it's. Well, this is the. This is what happened. I had the show opened for about four or five months, then I shut it down for three months. A lot of people don't know this. Early on. I shut it. I was terrified because I didn't want to talk to weirdos like yourself. So, I mean, this is insane.

[Marissa Lizapel]

But you're not a weirdo, right?

[Alex Ferrari]

But no, no, no, no, no.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I love your outfit, by the way, today.

[Alex Ferrari]

Thank you.

[Marissa Lizapel]

It looks great.

[Alex Ferrari]

This is a traditional guaya vera. It's a. It's a Cuban shirt from Little Havana in Miami. I just didn't. My other shirt.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Did you feel, like, the energy? I feel like you put it on today and you were like, the energy because you were. You were going to pick out another one.

[Alex Ferrari]

I picked out another one. I. Dry cleaners was my normal shirt, and people always ask, why do you like. I'm like, because I don't want to think about stuff. So I. I just. Just put the same stuff on all the.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Right, right.

[Alex Ferrari]

And I. And I was like, yeah, you know what? This didn't. Something happened in the direct cleaner. It didn't look exactly the way I wanted it. I was like, you know, I kind of like this one. This was a little bit more fun and has a little bit more of a different energy. But I appreciate the comment. Thank you so much.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yes. But I feel. I feel you changed the shirt.

[Alex Ferrari]

I did.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, I know I did. I changed.

[Alex Ferrari]

I Went back.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I went to this because this is, this. I feel like this is a representation of, like, you're my Cuban. Excited energy. Yeah, yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

No, I literally, I go, I talked to my wife. I'm like, did I get this in Miami? She's like, yeah, you got this in Miami when we were there last.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, I love it.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's a little guaya vera. So for all the Latinos in the, in the crowd, I'm sure we'll get a few comments. They're like, oh, Cubans. This is a traditional Cuban shirt. And I could tell you all sorts of stories about pockets and stuff I learned. No, no, it's okay. It's fine. What were we talking about before the guy?

[Marissa Lizapel]

We were talking about intuition, emotion.

[Alex Ferrari]

Okay.

[Marissa Lizapel]

And how, like, you had to start on the path to the podcast to get to where you are three years later.

[Alex Ferrari]

So I stopped it. So I. I did like one a week, maybe one every two weeks. And then I went to once a month. And if anyone knows the kind of content I put out, you know, I wasn't all in.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Okay, well, I don't know.

[Alex Ferrari]

I know I usually did. At my peak, I was doing four to five episodes a week.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I don't know how you do it.

[Alex Ferrari]

I didn't know. So. But I stopped. And then my teacher told me, hey, you, you gotta, you know, poop or get off the pot. And no.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Did they.

[Alex Ferrari]

She literally did that. And because this has to get done and if you don't do it, someone else is going to. I was like, all right, I guess I gotta do it. And then I took a leap of faith. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

[Commercial Narrator]

Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line. But first. Ah, there, the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.

[SpinQuest Advertiser]

Spinquest Social Casino. The presents are open and you're over the in laws. It's a perfect time to grab your phone and play spinquest.com with live dealer blackjack, craps and a ton of slots. And here's a great deal for the holiday. A $30 coin pack for $10. And if you're hearing this ad, you can play right now on SpinQuest.com SpinQuest.

[Alex Ferrari]

Is a free to play social casino void where prohibited.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Visit spinquest.com for more details.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Kishana wanted to pay homage to her son.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I lost my son to cancer when.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

He was just 14 years old. And I came to UnitedHealthcare to make a difference. She instantly made an impact on Others.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Anything that I could do to honor him, I understood. I was once that person on the other side.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Through her work, she's been able to turn her pain into purpose.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I tore it from my boy. He gave me so much.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Hear more stories like he. Shauna'[e-mail].

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show. It's a very important part. It was a very pivotal moment in my life because I decided to take a leap of faith and just trust that God was going to take me and the universe was going to take me on a ride and protect my family, protect me. Because all of my money was being made in my other shows.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

And, and talking to weirdos like yourself.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

Could threaten that filmmaking world that I was coming from. Because Hollywood, you don't do this kind of stuff as woo woo as they all are.

[Marissa Lizapel]

You can't talk about God.

[Alex Ferrari]

You can't talk about God in Hollywood. Like, it's very difficult. I know, but if you say Jesus, God for you're done, you're done. You just can't. It's weird. It's very weird.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Okay.

[Alex Ferrari]

So then I went all in. And then yada, yada, yada, a million subscribers later. But it was just this motion was like boom, boom, boom, boom.

[Marissa Lizapel]

And you had to align as you went along and you had still aligning.

[Alex Ferrari]

As you go along.

[Marissa Lizapel]

But you couldn't have sat there like static in with no motion and have projected what this is today by sitting there.

[Alex Ferrari]

No, of course not.

[Marissa Lizapel]

And being like, I'm not going to start until I get the perfect answer or the perfect intuition about what to do.

[Alex Ferrari]

Like, you just had to go, but you know what?

[Marissa Lizapel]

You know what I mean?

[Alex Ferrari]

But you know what's funny? That's exactly what I did in my filmmaking career for most of my film career.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

Because I would say I'm like, I need this actor. If I can't get this actor, I can't make the movie. I need $7 million to make my movie. I'm like, you're out of here. Like, I look back, I'm like, are you stupid? No one's giving you seven.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Well, the control you're talking about, you call the psychics for the control you were, you had to control.

[Alex Ferrari]

Right, exactly. So I was this whole thing. But the moment I, I had this moment when I did my first movie, I was like, oh, wait a minute, I just turned 40, I think at the time. And I was like, I got, I gotta make a movie. 30 days later, I was shooting a movie. 30 days later, I just Didn't I just, like, I'm. I called my friend up. We're making a movie. Yeah, call your friends. And we just literally made our first movie. My first movie was called this is Meg, which is on Next Level, Soul tv, if anybody wants to watch it. And it's. And funny enough, in that movie, there's so much spirituality in it, I had no idea I was doing it.

[Marissa Lizapel]

And now you look back, right?

[Alex Ferrari]

I look back.

[Marissa Lizapel]

It's all there.

[Alex Ferrari]

The opening scene, like, our main characters listening to a guru on an iPad. Like, it's like a Tony Robbins kind of Eckhart Tolle vibe. It's a spoof of what a guru is supposed to be. And then there's an ayahuasca scene in it. And there's like, this Hollywood. Hollywood spirituality scene in it. I was like. I look back, I'm like, oh, my God. This movie's about spirituality. Yeah.

[Marissa Lizapel]

All the clues are there. It's all there. All the glimmers, all the little, like, diamonds is there.

[Alex Ferrari]

But that was one of those things, like, just went out and did it. And all of a sudden I. Things just started, right? Just opened up.

[Marissa Lizapel]

That's how a line works about work.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's about, you have to take motion, you have to take action.

[Marissa Lizapel]

And that's where the somatics comes in. Because people only have limited capacity. You can make a million dollars a year and still have limited capacity in your nervous system and not be able to, like, your body's going to shut down. It's going to tell yourself stories. You don't have time, energy, money, whatever. It's going to shut down. It's going to give you anxiety symptoms. But you have to know that if you're going to scale the peak of the mountain, you're going to get triggered more than you've ever gotten triggered. And you're going to need the tools to get through that to the other side. Because all of us have big work to do. All of us have a lot of work to do.

[Alex Ferrari]

And that's the thing that people don't understand. They. Everyone thinks that, like, I need to save the world. I'm like, no, you need to save yourself.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yourself.

[Alex Ferrari]

And once you're able to do that, your example will start lighting up people around you. And that's how. Only. That's the only way change really happens. Because you can't save the world. No one person, really, other than Jesus. No, I'm joking. No. But not one. Or Buddha, but not one single person can save the entire planet. You can do Your part, and you are an integral part of that process. But the key is to awaken yourself and then not to try to convert other people, help other people. But, but just your example, your energy, your vibration will start to ripple. Does that make sense?

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah. I can't tell you how many people watched the last show that we did and they were like, there was a missing piece that I was missing. And just that information shifts things. Just that information that the somatics might be the missing piece for them will shift, will shift it instantly because now they know where they have to look. You know, so many people have come to me and be like, man, I've been to so many therapists, I've been to. So nobody ever told me this. Nobody ever told me this in school. Nobody ever told me that the nervous system is the key to like really what I call the second intuition, which is in the solar plexus.

[Alex Ferrari]

Explain that. So explain that. Because the nervous system is really interesting. Yes, because I, I've, I've, I've done a lot of my own research on the nervous system purely because of the channelers and the psychic mediums that I've dealt with. Because I've been explained and told that you have to kind of prime your system to be able to handle energies like that to come in. It takes a minute for you to prime in. So a lot of times smaller energies or training energies or like let's say for channel a training entity, positive energy will come in, get you ready for the big boy that's going to come in or the big girl that will come in. Because if they'll fry you, they'll fry you if you come in. Same thing with psychic mediumship, but also in meditation. As you meditate, you raise your vibration slowly and slowly and slowly. Over the years, you're priming your nervous system to handle higher levels of energy and frequency. Does that all make sense?

[Marissa Lizapel]

It makes sense. I think everybody just talks about it a little different. Tell me. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. It's just like if somebody has just. I see a lot of high achievers like this, people that are the doers of the world. They're always doing, always going, always producing, but everything looks great on paper. But they know that there's a void inside. They're like, something's missing. I don't know what it is. And what they really need is internal space. Not any more externals. They need internal space because they actually are seeking connection. That's what we all want. We want to get back to connection. Right. We've been living in disconnection. Even with all of our producing, all of our doing, all of our going, it didn't ever scratch the itch. There's always more, always needing more, raising the bar, doing the next project.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, that's why billionaires are like, I only have 2 billion, I really need 4 billion. I'm like, but you don't, you don't, you don't at all. Like, at a certain point, how much do you truly need? There's this kind of. It's an endless. Some of these very famous billionaires, you just sit there and go, are they happy? Like, are they true? I mean, because they're just constantly trying to fill a void that will never be filled with money, no matter system. If not even if you're a trillionaire, which we will probably see a trillionaire in our lifetimes, which is insane.

[Marissa Lizapel]

What they're looking for is. And I, I hear a lot of people talking about this, about people in Hollywood, you know, actors who are like.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh yeah, I won the Oscar. Now what?

[Marissa Lizapel]

Now what?

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh yeah, I know those guys.

[Marissa Lizapel]

They can't even savor that moment or take space with that moment because there's no connection to themselves. People talk about intuition, which is like reading other people, but like we could talk about safety or threat. That's, that's part of the somatics that I talk about. But then there's a second intuition, which is intuition for ourselves we're supposed to be doing which usually if the nervous system is stuck, that intuition is turned off. And that's for me, like I was reading thousands of people over my years, but for myself, my life was a mess for a really long time and I couldn't really turn that part on. And so the somatic work helps you get back to your own intuition so that you get back into your own alignment to your purpose, into that fulfillment. Because that's really achievable in the nervous system. It's called the ventral vagal state. What?

[Alex Ferrari]

What? Something like my. I just had like a slight aha moment when you said that we're all going back to connection. We're all thriving, striving for connection. Yeah, it is. It's such a simple idea, but so profound because on the other side, after all the near death experiencers I've spoken to.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

There is instant connection to the one. You are one. The understanding of we are all interconnected. It's just such a. Of course, on the other side here we're thrown into something and we have the illusion of disconnection. We have the illusion that you and me are not connected in one way, shape or form. But if I hurt you, I'm hurting myself and vice versa. That is such a powerful thing. And then what did we do? We create social media as a kind of a faux version or a proxy to connection because I could have a million followers. But that's not real connection. That's just likes. And you know, it's back in like my MySpace days, you know, when you're in my space, like, how many friends do you have? Like how many? I mean, like. But you're not connecting. So we're more connected than we've ever been, but the loneliest we've ever been.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Well, that's where the universe made a choice. Because we've always been in a war of dark and light. There's always been a war.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah.

[Marissa Lizapel]

But recently after this 11 year period of what I call the elevation period now, the people that were being primed to lead usually had trauma and moving through it, we're at the earth did make a choice. And the choice is that it's going deeper and deeper into disconnection. And if you look at, you're going to see a lot of renovating happening in the world, a lot of construction, a lot of things that are brighter lights and bigger things and, you know, more monstrosities. But you're gonna go to some of these places and think, oh my God, there's no soul. There's no soul. And during this soul, this solo pilgrimage that I've just done, really tested my system. I wouldn't be able to do this five years ago.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

[Commercial Narrator]

Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line. But first. There, the last one. Enjoy a Coca cola for a pause that refreshes.

[SpinQuest Advertiser]

Spinquest Social casino. The presents are open and you're over the in laws. It's a perfect time to grab your phone and play spinquest.com with live dealer, blackjack, crafts and a ton of slots. And here's a great deal for the holiday. A $30 coin pack for $10. And if you're hearing this ad, you can play right now on spinquest.com Spinquest.

[Alex Ferrari]

Is a free to play social casino.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Visit spinquest.com for more details.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

UnitedHealthcare nurse Crystal checked in on a patient.

[Marissa Lizapel]

We do a routine call after surgery and I could tell in her voice that she was.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Crystal knew she needed help.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I knew that this is very serious. This is like Septic. This is life threatening.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

And she knew just what to do.

[Marissa Lizapel]

And I called the hospital and said, she's coming in, here are her labs.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

And got her the help she needed.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I see my role at UnitedHealthcare as a life saving role.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Hear more stories like [e-mail] benefits features and or devices vary by plan. Area limitation and exclusions apply.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Marissa Lizapel]

But where I found the connection and where I found the soul was not in the big cities. It wasn't in the lights, it wasn't in the sounds. It was in the small little places off the beaten path of just meeting people and sharing my story or sharing their story, moments of connection. And so right now, it's not about people's journey, it's not about individual journeys. It's not even about my individual journey. I know right now what I'm supposed to be doing. There's souls that are supposed to be guided to me, that I'm supposed to help get them back to their creativity, to their impact, to their purpose, help them to reactivate the light pillar, help their chakra system to become clear again so that they can channel on their own and then get that light grid turned back on for them. Get as many lights, pillars turned on in the earth that I can, because those are gonna, those people are gonna lead into their purpose. They're gonna be leaders for other people. So we need to turn on as many of those switches as we can. And so I want to call even the mediums, the psychics out there, the lightworkers, come back home, because your gifts are gonna be even better and more in tune and more. You're gonna know exactly what you're meant to do. We're meant to have more elevation in the work. It's not about giving people readings, it's not about giving people messages now. It's about getting people where they're supposed to be to lead the planet. And everybody has a purpose, everybody has a mission. The problem is, and I'm a lover of technology, you know, that we talked about. I love tech, I love it. But when I look at this intuitively in a channeled way, that's where the dark forces are keeping people in a trance and spiraling them down with media, with social media, with news, all that stuff. I tell people three things. You want to shift your vibration instantly, Stop watching the news for five days, see what happens.

[Alex Ferrari]

Absolutely. I never watch the news.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

No.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Be aware of what you speak, because a lot of people don't realize, they talk negatively about themselves. Oh, they speak about medical conditions and chaos. That's how people feel that they connect with other people when they talk about chaos and dramatic. That's how people think that they connect with other people.

[Alex Ferrari]

Let me ask you.

[Marissa Lizapel]

It's true.

[Alex Ferrari]

You know, I know I'm laughing because.

[Marissa Lizapel]

When are you having a real conversation about anything or laughing? It's all about all the horrible things.

[Alex Ferrari]

I know. The funny thing is, like, I have friends who they call their parents, and the first thing, they're like, well, my hip is out. And go to a funeral and go to. Bob died. Yes, Bob died. You didn't believe Bob died? He was so young and.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

And it's like, yeah, yeah. My gerd is acting up.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, we don't need to hear.

[Alex Ferrari]

I've caught myself doing that, you know, recently. Not recently, but like, within the last year or two. Like, you know, as you get a little older, certain things start, you know, a couple of wagon wheels start to wobble a little bit more than they used to. Yeah, it's natural. But I started catching myself doing that. Like, I'd call. I'd call somebody, but no one wants to hear that.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Nobody wants to hear it.

[Alex Ferrari]

But I caught myself, like, what are you doing? What are you doing right now?

[Marissa Lizapel]

It keeps you in a lower vibration.

[Alex Ferrari]

It does.

[Marissa Lizapel]

And I tell people, the people that come into my program, right, the people that I work with individually, like, in a group, very small group, they have rules, like, and they're not used because people with chronic. Have chronic illnesses, they have chronic conditions, they have chronic trauma, whatever. But they're very talented individuals. Right. These. These women that I work with, and I'm like, when you come in here, you can't mention medical conditions. They're so used to talking about their. You can't say my. This. If you start talking about a situation about another person, I'm going to raise my hand. I'm like, trigger. No. Like, I teach them how to talk so their nervous system is trained. And then they go out in the world. They think I'm, like, trying to not let them say stuff. They go out in the world and it happens to them. Like, with another person. Like, oh, now I know why you're telling me to not have what I call temperamental lingo. It's like, do we need to give all the details of a chaotic situation and all the details about the surgery and all the details about the horrible things? Like when somebody says, how you doing? They don't want to. They're not. They don't want to hear that.

[Alex Ferrari]

You know, Marissa, what I find fascinating about you is the way you approach the work that you do. You're so. No nonsense. It's kind of like a good teacher, a good call a teacher rather than a word guru. But like a good teacher, a good mentor is someone who's gonna call you on your crap in your face, and do it with love.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, total love. It's not judgment. My mentorees, they don't. They don't feel judged.

[Alex Ferrari]

No. No, it's not.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, they don't feel judged.

[Alex Ferrari]

But you're doing it in such a beautiful. Like, the thing that popped into my head as you were talking, I was coming up with this question in my head, was the scene in Empire Strikes Back with Yoda when he. When he tells Luke. Luke's go, what's in that cave? And he's like, oh, you know, and he's like, you're gonna face yourself in there. Kind of something along those lines. And he's like. And he puts his gun. And he's like, that won't help you. And that's when he meets Darth Vader and he meets him, and he essentially, if anyone remembers, sorry for spoiler alert, he. He slices Darth Vader's face mask off or something like that with his lightsaber, and his face is there. It was such a profound. Yeah, profound moment in that movie. I don't even know how they got through, to be honest with you. It's such a profound moment. But it's. But the way he kind of, like, forced. Like, not forced them, but kind of just told him, hey, you know, this is what's gonna happen. Yeah, be careful, you know, but you're gonna. And only when. Till it happens, do they go, oh, that's what she meant.

[Marissa Lizapel]

That's what she meant. Yeah. And these are people that are older than me, like, a lot older, that are used to talking.

[Alex Ferrari]

Age means nothing.

[Marissa Lizapel]

It doesn't matter.

[Alex Ferrari]

It doesn't matter.

[Marissa Lizapel]

But they're like, I can't talk about this. I'm like, no, you can't write about it. You can't write in the community about it. You can't share in a general way, say, you know what? I'm having a hard time because family member is going through something. We don't need to know all the details of what it is because it brings down the group. And so we need to keep the group. Group safe. You can only heal in safety. And when all that stuff's coming at you, it's not safe. So I tell people that was the second thing, the third thing is be aware of what you consume. If you're consuming, activating stuff all the time.

[Alex Ferrari]

You mean like in, you mean visual conception?

[Marissa Lizapel]

No, I mean like anything on social media, like, whatever. Yeah, yeah. Be careful what you write, what you like. If you're writing on what you're reading.

[Alex Ferrari]

What you're writing, what you're watching and.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Listening to and the news, like, turn it off, you know, don't watch it.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, it's a fear machine.

[Marissa Lizapel]

And I. Yeah. And people that start to do this work, they start to become a lot very relaxed for the first time in their life. They start to like exhale and then they'll be like, why did I just feel relaxed? And then all of a sudden I had to go and like call someone to hear about their drama or I had to like turn on TV and I'm like, because your body feels unsafe, relaxing. That's what it's protecting itself from. So you almost need to keep yourself just above level with some activation to keep yourself in that state of fight or flight, in that survival state, which is horrible for you, which is just, it's keeping you here. And that's a lot of the leaders, a lot of the high achievers are here all the time. All the time, all the time. And so they start to, we start to bring them in. And I could tell you this journey is the best journey I've ever been on. And I'm still doing my work because the more, the bigger the mountain is for me, the more team I need. Don't ever anybody, don't ever listen to somebody that has no mentors and that doesn't have a team because the, you have your plateaus, but when you scale that mountain, that next mountain peak and you're coming toward yours.

[Alex Ferrari]

What I find fascinating is I have family members that like all they do is watch news all day. They're older and they just watch news all day. And when I get on the phone with them, they'll, they'll tell me the like, do you know what happened with this and this and this? I'm like, yeah, I don't know. He goes, how are you not informed how you this. And I always tell him the same thing, which is what the great Wayne Dyer said back in the day.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Wayne Dyer.

[Alex Ferrari]

I loved Wayne.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

He said, if the news is big enough, it'll get to me, right?

[Marissa Lizapel]

Somebody will tell you.

[Alex Ferrari]

Someone. If it's that important. Yeah, someone is going to tell me.

[Marissa Lizapel]

And do you really think people, you're gonna change somebody's mind. Do you really think if you go on the Internet and start like debating politically that you're gonna change somebody's mind right now? No. You're just wasting time where you could be getting back to your purpose, your creativity and influencing the world. You're wasting time. And that's how the negative energies right now. It's not what people think. It's not like an evil entity that's gonna show up. It's coming at people in the trance or putting people in a trance with technology, information. That's where people are going down the spiral and then they're just tunnel vision.

[Alex Ferrari]

But there is, I mean, but there's a positive aspect to technology.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Oh, I love technology.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, of course.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

But it's just the kind of what you're doing scrolling. Yeah, I, I did this, I did an experiment with social media years ago. I was like, you know what, I'm just gonna watch positive like spiritual stuff and just, I just only only looked at that and I wanted to see what the algorithm and all of a sudden it would only feed me like, you know, inspirational stuff, motivational stuff, spiritual stuff and it would just do that. So all of a sudden my doom scrolling was like a spiritual scrolling like every. Everything was really positive. And that's what we try to do with our social media, is try to help. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

[Commercial Narrator]

Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line. But first. There the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.

[SpinQuest Advertiser]

Spinquest Social Casino. The presents are open and you're over the in laws. It's a perfect time to grab your phone and play spinquest.com with live dealer blackjack, crafts and a ton of slots. And here's a great deal for the holiday. A $30 coin pack for $10. And if you're hearing this ad, you can play right now on spinquest.com Spinquest.

[Alex Ferrari]

Is a free to play social casino.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Visit spinquest.com for more details.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Deborah had to have surgery.

[Commercial Narrator]

I had hip surgery in November of 2024.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Her United Healthcare nurse Crystal checked on her.

[Marissa Lizapel]

We do a call after surgery and I could tell that she was struggling.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Deborah needed help.

[Commercial Narrator]

My infection markers were through the roof.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

And Crystal knew what to do.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I called the hospital and said she's.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Coming in and got Debra the help she needed.

[Commercial Narrator]

Crystal and United Healthcare saved my life.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Hear more stories like Debra'[e-mail] benefits, features and or devices vary by plan, area limitation and exclusions apply.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show. But I can see, like, if you. If you just. And then the second. The second I click. The second I click on something negative, all of a sudden just starts to feed you the negative stuff. Yeah, it's.

[Marissa Lizapel]

It's controlling.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's pretty insane what they've created.

[Marissa Lizapel]

But even people right now who are only listening to positive podcasts and stuff, it's still keeping them away from the action and getting more and more information and all. Like, stick to one mentor for a while. Stick to one podcast. Stick to one source of this show is fantastic. Yeah.

[SpinQuest Advertiser]

Stick to this level.

[Marissa Lizapel]

But it's almost like they think the more information they get, it's gonna move.

[Alex Ferrari]

Them forward from my personal experience when I was, you know, going at the beginning of stages. So, like, when my mentor. I've known her since she was 23, my guru, and she's still alive and kicking. And you love her because she is very similar to you.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Is she from. Where's she from?

[Alex Ferrari]

I don't know where she's from. Well, she's from Florida, but she is. Oh, no, she's 92.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Okay. So she doesn't care.

[Alex Ferrari]

But she's been like that all her life. Yeah, she just calls you, like, you need to do this, you need to do that. Shut up. Get, you know.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

Poop or get off the pot. That's who she is. So when she started me on my journey, she's like, why don't you read this book? And you want to read this book? And she just little things. And I was such a baby at the time. I didn't. I needed information to just the basic foundation. I didn't have. Like, I didn't understand reincarnation. I didn't understand, you know, going. Going into reincarnation, karma chakras, like, real base level foundational stuff. And I needed to learn that. You're educating yourself. You have to learn it. Then she handed me Yogi Autobiography of a Yogi, and I'm like, what is this? Yeah, I don't understand any of this. Just way too much for me. I'm gonna put that away.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

I needed a decade to get back to it. Because when I start, then when I.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Got back, I'm like, oh, yeah, now you understand. Yeah, foundation.

[Alex Ferrari]

You need a foundation. So there is moments on your journey that information is helpful.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Oh, absolutely.

[Alex Ferrari]

But, yeah, with that said, you're absolutely right. At a certain point in your journey, you already know all the basics, so now you're just. Just. It's an echo chamber. Of the same stuff or going to different podcasts or different books or different this or different that, thinking that the outside is going to help. When you really need to watch a show, read a book and bring it.

[Marissa Lizapel]

In and then integrate it and do.

[Alex Ferrari]

Something about it, use it as opposed to just action, action. You have to spend the time, do the meditation, do the work within. You know, for me, when I. When I wrote my first book about me almost making a $20 million movie for the mob, that was so. My God, I cried while I was writing it. I had no idea I was holding on to all that. And that's an example of what you're talking about. Like this stuff. That energy never left me. I forgave the mobster who. And the gangster who, you know, threatened my life for a year and, and did all the horrible things that he did to me during that time. But I didn't, apparently didn't let go of it. And I didn't know. And this is really interesting. Once I wrote that book, I realized, oh, my God, that experience has been changing every decision I've made for the last 17 years. I was attracting the wrong people, wrong projects. Why I would always get in the room with the big movie star and then wampum, I'm like, I'm good enough to this damn thing. Go.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Because your capacity.

[Alex Ferrari]

I wasn't. I wasn't there.

[Marissa Lizapel]

You had limited capacity. We can't change our capacity.

[Alex Ferrari]

Explain that. Explain that. Go deeper into that.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I don't believe in the word self sabotage. A lot of people use it nowadays because it's essentially shaming yourself, like, you know better. But really, a lot of this stuff is subconscious that's going on. Most, most of it, right? So they're like, oh, I'm self sabotaging. Well, if you knew you were, you wouldn't want to do it anyway. It's more like I tell people, no, it's more like you have limited capacity and you don't have the capacity for it yet. That's all. You just don't have the capacity to reach the next level of vibration, hold it and maintain it and keep it. And that's why you see people like, what happened with you, I call it blipping, where you get to that high level and drops. Get to that higher level. Drops.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, it's for 17 years, right?

[Marissa Lizapel]

But once you do, you come back in, you'll be able to hold it because now your capacity window, it's. It's like a little electric fence for dogs and cats, right? Doesn't Matter. I love that it doesn't matter. Like if you have a PhD, you make 500 grand a year. It doesn't matter. Your capacity and your nervous system, how you were born, how you were raised up to 6 to 10 years of age. That carries with you and that.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's programming.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, it's programming and results in your decision making. And the intuition, mostly for high achievers is up here constantly scanning threat and danger threatened. Danger, Safety and danger. It's. I can. Most people that are highly sensitive who have trauma are able to. Their intuition is. Is so talented. They're able to say, I don't like that guy. I don't like that. They're able to. But when it comes to themselves, they can't do it. They can't see. So that they externalize then. And they ask this person what they should do and that person and call psychic and do this. But then their body continues to lead them down the familiar road even though they know the red flags are there. They continue on anyway because the body will always choose familiar over the unknown. Even if the unknown is healthy.

[Alex Ferrari]

Right?

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, because it's.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's that we're programmed for that.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

I mean, we're wired as a species.

[Marissa Lizapel]

That's right.

[Alex Ferrari]

To stay. We want known. We want. Because if we do, if we go into the unknown, the tiger will eat us.

[Marissa Lizapel]

That's right.

[Alex Ferrari]

So on a very reptilian, you know, primal.

[Marissa Lizapel]

If you're in fight or flight all the time. If you're in a ventral vagal state, though, which is what people in Hollywood are really looking for, they don't know it is a nervous system state, which is connection. That's what all of us want. But we're either in shutdown, fight or flight or in ventral. And when you get a taste of ventral.

[Alex Ferrari]

So is that why. Because you're a former film major?

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yes, correct. Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

So you and I can talk a little bit about this. Is that why we are. When we were growing up in the 80s and the 90s, which was the best time ever. I mean, that is peak humanity, apparently.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Did you have Garbage Pail Kids?

[Alex Ferrari]

Of course. I had the first series, second series, all of it.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Do you know I found somebody on ebay that has like the wax packets with the gum, of course.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh yeah, they're still around.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Oh my God, I have to get some.

[Alex Ferrari]

I know. Yeah, absolutely.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Sorry I took you off track, so.

[Alex Ferrari]

No worries. So like in the 80s and the 90s, the movies that came out in those two decades were amazing. But the thing about those Films that is lacking, I think. And today I wanted to ask your opinion on it, and this is on a broader topic of connection, is that those films were made by filmmakers and had original ideas. Like the Goonies. Yeah, you know, the Goonies or ET Or Raiders or, you know, any of those, other than Spielberg films.

[Marissa Lizapel]

But, you know, a feeling they gave.

[Alex Ferrari]

You a connection of Gremlins. Like there was. There was something that connected you. There was a. There was an energy to those films. Why would they.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Why?

[Alex Ferrari]

They are aging so. So well.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

You know, I mean, some of them obviously are dated, but those films, for whatever reason, in those decades, seem to connect. Even the cartoons we grew up with, there was a connection where. Now it's like this. I've been watching on my Instagram. I was watching the other day how McDonald's and all the fast food joints looked in the 80s and 90s and how they look now. Like, you know, a McDonald's back in the day was fun and there was a playground, and it was this or that.

[Marissa Lizapel]

The metal playground. Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

I mean, you had all this cool, like. And it was so unique.

[Marissa Lizapel]

A Pizza Hut, the play place.

[Alex Ferrari]

We all know what a Pizza Hut looks like.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Like. Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now Pizza Huts look like Blockbuster. Yeah. They all had very distinct looks.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

And feelings where now it's all just been homogenized.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I know. That's what I'm talking about.

[Alex Ferrari]

So there's this. And that's what I think. A lot of the media that's being generated out there, that's not conscious media, is this kind of like just pale shadows.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Echoes. Yeah. Of what?

[Alex Ferrari]

And they're literally shadows. They're remaking everything.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

I mean, the Masters of the Universe is coming out, for God's sakes, though, I'm interested to see. We'll see what they do, because the first one was fun to watch with Dolph. But. But do you agree with that? Do you think there was. There was. There was a level of connection that we had in the 80s and 90s and even the early 2000s, because the Internet was still so.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Baby, it was. Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

In the late 90s and early 2000s, dial up and all that fun stuff, that there was a connection that. That we had then that we don't have now in media. Would you agree?

[Marissa Lizapel]

Oh, yeah, But I. I mean, how many times have you. I don't know if you had this thought or whatever, but do you remember, like, when your grandparents would take you to McDonald's or when you go out to dinner, you would have a feeling, right?

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, Pizza Hut. Going out the Pizza Hut with those.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Little, with the lights, the lights and.

[Alex Ferrari]

Then, and the little red, the red cups and you. Absolutely, absolutely.

[Marissa Lizapel]

But you had a, you had a feeling when you would be told you're going, you had a feeling on your way there. You had a feeling you were connected to yourself. Right? That's what if you think about, we're all trying to like go to these, like going to Disney and they're all making all these new universes and what, what people are trying to do is they're, they're thinking, well, if I go and do more and bigger, then I'll get that back. I'll get that feeling back that I used to have as a kid. But going to McDonald's with my grandfather, that's what people are searching for, right? They're searching for that. They don't know it. They think if they do something bigger, better and flashier and it's gonna be.

[Alex Ferrari]

You know what they're opening up in Vegas, the world's first nostalgia park. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

[Commercial Narrator]

Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line. But first. There, the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.

[SpinQuest Advertiser]

Spinquest social casino. The presents are open and you're over the in laws. It's a perfect time to grab your phone and play spinquest.com with live dealer blackjack, crafts and a ton of slots. And here's a great deal for the holiday. A $30 coin pack for $10. And if you're hearing this ad, you can play right now on spinquest.com Spinquest.

[Alex Ferrari]

Is a free to play social casino.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Visit spinquest.com for more details.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Heather is a nurse practitioner from UnitedHealthcare.

[Commercial Narrator]

We meet patients wherever they live.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

During a house call, she found Jack had.

[Commercial Narrator]

Jack's blood pressure was dangerously high.

[Marissa Lizapel]

It was 217 over 110.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

So they got Jack to the hospital and got him the help he needed.

[Commercial Narrator]

He had had a stamp placed in his heart preventing a massive heart attack.

[Marissa Lizapel]

If it wasn't for my guardian angel, I wouldn't be here.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Hear more stories like Jack's at unitedhealthcare.com benefits, features and or devices vary by plan. Area limitation and exclusions apply.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show. So there's going to be a 50s land, a 60s land, 70 land, 80s.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Land and 90s because that's where people, the only way people can get connection today is by thinking about the past. But that Means they're not present.

[Alex Ferrari]

Correct.

[Marissa Lizapel]

And they're not moving into their future.

[Alex Ferrari]

Correct.

[Marissa Lizapel]

So we have to get that connection back now. That's what I do. And you're following the same pathway of the three step system. The third part that I just got transmission by, you're following it as well. You started with the love of film, you started doing that, Then your sabbatical was. You had to just like mine was stop the mediumship. You just stopped the film. Then you're in the podcast, right?

[Alex Ferrari]

I did a podcast 10 years.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Right. And in my last 10 years, I built this up, this somatic healing program. Right. But now moving back home to the body, you're gonna, you're gonna heal the light body, connect to the grid, to the true purpose and mission. And now you're going to go back, you're going to have a third phase.

[Alex Ferrari]

Which is what? The phase I'm in right now, I'm going into it.

[Marissa Lizapel]

You're going into it?

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Coming up in the next year and a half. Right? Coming up in the next year and a half.

[Alex Ferrari]

Is this a reading?

[Marissa Lizapel]

Oh, good.

[Alex Ferrari]

Is this a reading? Tell me, tell me about my future.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yes, but you're coming into the third phase where you're now going to be realizing, oh, why did I have to stop fill. Why did I have to stop mediumship? Why did I do this? Why did I do science for 10 years when I was a me? Why are you doing a podcast for 10 years? It's, it's the period I talk about the 10 years, 11 years of elevation. So now we're coming out of that, into year 12, 13. And that's when creativity, with the people that are doing the work to get back in the body, the creativity is the healing, it's getting back. I'm starting to do improv again. I haven't done improv in like 20 years. All the things are going to come back around. So filmmaking is going to come back around, but now you're going to be combining because it's your elevating you. It was almost too basic before because it was coming from a place of limited capacity in your nervous system, not your talent, but in your nervous system. You couldn't hold that vibration. So interesting you couldn't hold it. Now you've created space for yourself. You've gone down this road. I've gone down the science road, combined it with the spirituality. Right. Created space within myself. Now I'm starting to be able to hold more. I have more space for myself, more space for my energy. Most People that come to me, they're constantly caretaking other people, constantly living for others and being resentful and feeling obligated because all they're doing is caretaking. Right. Once you get the space, you're going to know exactly that. You have to get back to the creativity. That's where the healing is.

[Alex Ferrari]

And you're absolutely right. Because when I started Next Level Soul, a lot of people were like, so, when are you going to make a movie? When are you going to make a spiritual movie? When are you going to make this or that? And I'm like, ah, one day I'll get to it. One day I'll get to it.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah. People are like, when are you going to read again? I'm like, my wait list has been closed for three years and this is why there's a reason you had to stop.

[Alex Ferrari]

And I stopped for arguably for 10. Almost. Not.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Not 10 years.

[Alex Ferrari]

No. Because I did a couple movies during the early part of that, but they were experiments and stuff like that. But. But now, now with Next Level Soul tv, when we launched that, I was like, oh, well, now it's time to. And now, now, as you saw in the. In. In our studio.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah. I'm very impressed.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah. With our studio and what we're doing. We're shooting shows, we're shooting courses, we're shooting, you know, series.

[Marissa Lizapel]

It's bigger than that. What I see with you is bigger.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, I know it's bigger.

[Marissa Lizapel]

And it doesn't. It's like, this will still continue, but this is a. This is another project and the name Edward is coming. So there's something with somebody. Eddie or Edward. Edward. No, not Edward.

[Alex Ferrari]

Edward. I have to look for an Edward.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Well, you don't have to look. It's gonna just.

[Alex Ferrari]

He'll. He'll just show up.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Well, it could be a last name, first name, you know. Sure, sure. But you are on a. Okay. Sorry.

[Alex Ferrari]

No, go ahead.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I keep seeing something about Venezuela. No idea. Okay, okay. But you're on, like, a beat. I see. With like the director's chair, with the. Yeah. With everything. And you're like. But it's not the United States. And like, you're in another country doing something.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, that would make sense. Because I, you know, would love to go to Peru or go, you know, and shoot at the.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah. I see you in front of a beach. A beach. Like a body water. Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

Interesting.

[Marissa Lizapel]

But, yeah, you're doing something that is a. It's. It's a special. It's a film, but it's a. It's being funded by like a third party. But it's not what this is. All the stuff we talk about today, this is, remember the three stages. You have your film, next level soul. This is, this is your third creativity.

[Alex Ferrari]

The combination of the two.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, yeah. There might be a horse in there too. You don't know. Right, the horse. Hide your dogs.

[Commercial Narrator]

Dogs.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, your dogs. Hide your dogs.

[Alex Ferrari]

Hide your dogs. No, but, but that's the thing is that now we're combined. I'm combining my filmmaking abilities with my conscious and spirituality and putting them together and we built.

[Marissa Lizapel]

But then you're not going to have to go after the actor. You're not going to. You're going to. Just when you're in alignment with the head and the heart, with the solar plexus opens and that jackhammer goes down, right. And that all. You'll actually feel it physically. You actually will feel a rush of energy when that opens and the things will just start coming and you'll be like, wait, now I need to build capacity to actually step into this. This is something I've been waiting for. And you're like, well, if I'm gonna do it, it's here. You're gonna have to actually increase your capacity to step into it and to do it.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, isn't it interesting though that during, during my other shows that I was able to, I apparently opened up enough capacity to then connect with like Oscar winning directors. Oscar winning. Where before I wouldn't. I just my, my frequency, I just was not there.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

I couldn't. So then all. Always I opened up. So it's interesting, the whole idea of capacity that you're talking about.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, so capacity expansion is internal, it's not external. So the more that you do, the more accolades that you have, the more awards, it's not going to increase your capacity to really follow your dreams, to really go after what you want.

[Alex Ferrari]

So right now we're like 500 megabytes or 500 gigabytes and we need to get to a terabyte, two terabytes and start to grow capacity because you just literally can't hold anything.

[Marissa Lizapel]

You can't hold that frequency of something you really want because you're playing small.

[Alex Ferrari]

And. And how do you open the frequency again? By doing the jackhammer.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yes, but you don't want to jackhammer it, you know, so willy nilly. No, it's. It's more like a lot of people are like, well, just get rid of it. But I'm like, if you open that dam with all of that energy, it's like. It's like an instapot. Okay, this is a good instapot.

[Alex Ferrari]

Nice.

[Marissa Lizapel]

This is the. Okay, this is the best analogy that I have. Imagine that your life, right, is in a pressurized instapot. And every decade, all that pressure, all that stress, all the trauma, all the things that you've happened in your life are constantly creating pressure in the instapot. What would happen if you just opened that all at once? It would explode. Right. So most people don't ever know that there's that valve up there where they start releasing. Releasing pressure a little bit at a time. Yeah, right.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah.

[Marissa Lizapel]

But you need the valve.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, without the valve, you can't release the pressure.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Correct. And you can't open the pot. Right. So the somatic work is the valve. It's actually. I tell people where the valve is, and we start to permanently release the pressure. Release the pressure a millimeter at a time. But it's permanent. It's not like you go get a massage, you feel better, you go back to stress.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's.

[Marissa Lizapel]

It. It circulates. No, the valve releases permanent pressure activation because there's activation in the body. And with all that activation, you don't have capacity for anything else other than managing all that anxiety overwhelm and activation that's going on. Takes a lot of energy to manage and control the internal chaos.

[Alex Ferrari]

And I mean, just taking this idea, this. These ideas you're talking about, you start applying them to the masters that are, like, on the wall, like a Yogananda who was a contemporary within the 20th century. I imagine that when they were younger, they were trying to figure things out, but then they slowly started to build their frequency, started to build their front until they finally are able to get to, quote, unquote, enlightenment. They were opening it up so much that they become a walking master. But I never thought about the capacity aspect of it, of holding on to a frequency and, like, why can't I connect? So there's like. Like perfect example. So someone like Steven Spielberg.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

[Commercial Narrator]

Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line, but first, There, the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.

[SpinQuest Advertiser]

Forget everything you had planned for this weekend because you are sitting on your couch and winning from the comfort of your own home. I'm here with spinquest, where you can play hundreds of slot games, all the table games you love, and you could even win real cash Prizes. New users, $30 coin packs are on sale for [e-mail] SpinQuest is a free.

[Marissa Lizapel]

To play social casino void where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Kishana wanted to pay homage to her son.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I lost my son to cancer when.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

He was just 14 years old. And I came to United Healthcare to make a difference. She instantly made an impact on others.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Anything that I could do to honor him, I understood. I was once that person on the other side.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Through her work, she's been able to turn her pain into purpose.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I do it for my boy. He gave me so much.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Hear more stories like Hushona'[e-mail].

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show. Obviously he's at a different frequency than other filmmakers and he's been at that frequency for.

[Marissa Lizapel]

He selled it.

[Alex Ferrari]

He's held it for decades.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Right?

[Alex Ferrari]

And decades. So he wouldn't run into. He just wouldn't run into a lower energy filmmaker like I was back at the day. Like, what's gonna happen? When am I gonna meet this? Yeah, that. That energy just wouldn't connect with. By the time you reach someone like him, you have at one level or another been able to raise your frequency to be able to even connect with him.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Correct. Like, you wouldn't even have to try to connect with him. It would happen.

[Alex Ferrari]

And we've all had this happen where we meet somebody at a party and you're just like, oh, just, can you get away from me?

[Marissa Lizapel]

Because they feel the, the desperation.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, you smell it. It's. It's like Jakar. You smell it.

[Marissa Lizapel]

That's. That's survival mode, though. That's not like a bad person. That's someone who's living in survival mode.

[Alex Ferrari]

Absolutely.

[Marissa Lizapel]

And so I help people break free of survival mode and expand their capacity to step into the life. Because I could tell you, oh, Alex, these are your next steps. This is all the information. This is what you're supposed to do. But if you don't have capacity, you're not gonna be able to do it or maintain it or keep it or hold onto it.

[Alex Ferrari]

And that's what most people don't tell you.

[Marissa Lizapel]

That's what most people don't tell you. They think, oh, if I go to a psychic, they'll just give me the answer.

[Alex Ferrari]

No, it's going to be superficial answers.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Well, even if I tell, if you.

[Alex Ferrari]

Tell me, like, oh, Alex, you know, in your future, you're going to work with Steven Spielberg, let's say, right? And I'm like, and when I had this, I did this 10 years ago. I'll be like, I would. I just wouldn't have the frequency. I wouldn't have the capacity.

[Marissa Lizapel]

But you wouldn't know that.

[Alex Ferrari]

I wouldn't. But I would.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

But that's my point.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

I wouldn't. Like, it's useless to know.

[Marissa Lizapel]

You'd be like, oh, you're crazy like that whenever. Because your capacity is just like you're playing small in your world because that's the controlled world that you're used to.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh. I mean people tell me stories or not stories, but to, you know, giving me readings about things that are going to happen to us and the company and what I'm doing and things like that. And I'm like, okay, yeah, okay, got that, got that. Nothing. Nothing is out of bounds for me. I have a complete open idea of what is potent, the potential of what we're doing in the mission that we're doing doing here at next level Soul. So I don't, I don't limit myself anymore. Even if it sounds insane, I'd be like, okay, that makes.

[Marissa Lizapel]

But it's not a defin. I don't believe that's why I stopped doing them. Cuz it's not like if you make a choice today, switch it.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Your pathway is you're a different lane in the highway. You're going to be going down a different road, you're going to be getting off different exits.

[Alex Ferrari]

I want to start a podcast about jelly beans. I think that's really what's going on. Jelly bean podcast. And we're going to talk about jelly beans all the time.

[Marissa Lizapel]

All the time.

[Alex Ferrari]

All the time.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Orange jelly beans, orange gel.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's one episode.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

Then there's the black jelly bean. Was that was the one that really got everyone going. But I could make that decision if I wanted to. But everything in my body would be yelling no. Because it's just not the path I'm supposed to be on.

[Marissa Lizapel]

And a lot of people, they hear the body yelling no. But they can't choose differently. That that's the problem is that they hear the. No.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, they feel it.

[Marissa Lizapel]

They feel it. They're like, oh, I see the red flag again with this next person I'm dating. But I just can't stop because the brain is hardwired to feel attracted to that person because they're trying to resolve the loop.

[Alex Ferrari]

So is the frequency of the people that you attract is the frequency that you can hold. So if you Pretty much, Pretty much. Right. So like if you have, you know, I have a cousin of mine this years ago, when we were young, in our early 20s. He's like, dude, every time I go to a club, I get in a fight, like, all the time, man. It's just like, it seems like it follows me and I go, dude, I go to clubs all the time, and I never have gotten into a fight. It might be you.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah. Like, what's the common denominator?

[Alex Ferrari]

What's the common denominator? You, dude. Like, you're either looking for it or it just comes towards you because you're just. That energy is there. And I never forgot that lesson. I was like, oh, he. He's just. It's just. He expects it, so. Because he expects it, it happens. So. But that could be the other way, too. I expect only good things to happen for me, and that happens.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Well, I think it's a little more complicated than that. It's. It's more of like we're trying to close loops constantly. We're trying to resolve something that we couldn't resolve that had to do with another person a long time ago. And we will seek out similar energies. It might not look like that person might not be that person, but we will consistently seek out similar energies in our work, in our relationships, people we hire.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, that's the problem I had. That's the problems I had with my film industry, my film career is because of that. That incident with the mobster. I just kept searching out the wrong people, the. Searching out the wrong projects, searching. It was just. I just.

[Marissa Lizapel]

To resolve that.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, it was constant.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Somebody like that who will probably do the same thing.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah. I mean, I never had anyone that bad again. But there were versions of them. Oh, absolutely, there were versions of it.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Because you were trying to resolve it.

[Alex Ferrari]

Up until, like, 10 years ago, I had. I had friends who would treat me like that, and I would allow it until I finally said, that's enough. And the second I said, that's enough. I don't attract those kind of people in my life anymore.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Well, something must have happened in the body, of course.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah.

[Marissa Lizapel]

So there must have been something. But, yeah, there's a lot of times you will get the red flags. But there is also a higher subconscious state that says I need to resolve this. So I need to go into it because I need to know I'm okay, that I can resolve this with the energy that hurt me. I need to resolve it with the familiar energy. And you can't ever really resolve it with the familiar energy, because unless that person's working on themselves, you know, too, because you're just going to constantly keep looping. But we need the capacity to move past that.

[Alex Ferrari]

And then people sometimes will leave their environment, move to a new city, move.

[Marissa Lizapel]

To a geographic cure.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, the geographic cure. And to a certain extent, I understand the mentality behind it because you're changing your surroundings. Things, but the core issue hasn't gone away.

[Marissa Lizapel]

But.

[Alex Ferrari]

So there is some value to. Like, your entire world is different now, but you're still going to attract those kind of people. Like, when I left Florida to move to la, the first person I met who was a friend for a while was exact duplicate of my mobster.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Your mobster?

[Alex Ferrari]

I call my mom. My gangster, my mobster. He was the exact same. Abusive, but. But under the guise of friendship.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

You know, and I had that. I had that guy in high school.

[Marissa Lizapel]

But that was familiar to you. So you knew that road.

[Alex Ferrari]

I just kept going and kept going until I finally, with him, I. I stopped it and I. And I just said no. And. And even then, I was tested. A few years ago, a guy came in and I guess the universe was testing. He's like. Like, let's see if he actually learned this lesson. And I.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Harder. It's harder to close the loop than it is to go back into the loop. It's harder to close it.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, but when that person came into my life, I. Oh, like, so quick. Yeah, so quick. And I stood. Boom. And it was like, okay, done. And I haven't had to deal with that kind of situation since, so it's interesting. A lot of the things you're. I'm just using me as an example because that's the only thing I can use.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

Thinking about the things you're talking about, it's fascinating. Marissa, you're. You're not just a weirdo psychic medium.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Of course I am.

[Alex Ferrari]

What's Grandpa saying? No, I'm joking.

[Marissa Lizapel]

We'll talk about the grandpa later. Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's my underwear.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Okay. Yeah, I hope so. I don't know. It's funny with the mediumship, I don't ever have any real, like, people come up. They're like, do you remember when he said this and this and this? I'm like, no, it's not. It's not coming from me, but, like, through you. It's coming through me, but it's not my own thoughts. So it feels like somebody's telling me somebody else said it.

[Alex Ferrari]

So before we close up today, because I could talk to you for hours, but we.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Oh, yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

We have things to do. What would you. What would be Like a. A thing that everyone needs to hear right now. Who is listening to this podcast in now and in the future.

[Marissa Lizapel]

It's really right now about going back to what always inspired. Inspired you, what always made you feel like what you're always drawn to, the creative work, the creativity, and going back to some of those things you always loved to do and revisiting them. That's going to be really important right now. That's where you're going to get the connection back is by really going back to your truth and going back to the things that you love. It's not about pushing more or doing more. It's about doing less. It's about talking less. It's about less information. It's about simplification, simplifying your life. And that's scary for a lot of people because that leaves a lot of room to be with themselves. They don't want that.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, it's.

[Marissa Lizapel]

But when you experience true space, you get very guarded with it. Like my. My world has gone from this to this. Because I know I want reciprocal relationships in my life today.

[Alex Ferrari]

It almost seems like you have to get small in order to get big.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

You need to come back in. But once you get to that certain point, it bursts.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Exactly.

[Alex Ferrari]

Because now you can hold this and.

[Marissa Lizapel]

You don't have to ever control anything ever again. The reason why people control is because they feel out of control.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yes.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Inside they have internal chaos that just won't shut off. And so they try to control the outside because they feel so like this all the time inside. And that requires space internally to do.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

[Commercial Narrator]

Okay. Only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line. But first, There, the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a punch pause that refreshes.

[SpinQuest Advertiser]

Forget whatever plans you have this weekend because you're staying at home and playing on Spin Quest. And there's never been a better time to sign up than right now. New users get $30 coin packs for just $10. All the table games you love with hundreds of slot games and real cash Prizes. That's at spinquest.com S P I N.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Q W-T.com Spin Quest is a free to play social casino void where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

UnitedHealthcare nurse Crystal checked in on a patient.

[Marissa Lizapel]

We do a routine call after surgery and I could tell in her voice that she was struggling.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Crystal knew she needed help.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I knew that. This is very serious. This is like septic. This is life Threatening.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

And she knew just what to do.

[Marissa Lizapel]

And I called the hospital and said, she's coming in.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Here are her labs and got her the help she needed.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I see my role at UnitedHealthcare as a life saving role.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Hear more stories like [e-mail] benefits, features and or devices vary by plan. Area limitation and exclusions apply.

[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show. Marisa, where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world?

[Marissa Lizapel]

Well, I'm sure it's in your show notes, but. Marissalizapel.com, connectionbeyond.com, marissaliza Pell. Just Google me, you'll find me.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, you're not hard to find.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I'm not hard to find. That's awesome. Yes. But just, just get off the Internet. Like just really start getting into life and start playing. Start doing things. Start making a difference, making an impact.

[Alex Ferrari]

Choose. Choose what goes in your ears.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Choose what you choose what you consume and choose what you say. Be mindful about what you're writing, what.

[Alex Ferrari]

You'Re speaking, what you're saying about yourself.

[Marissa Lizapel]

What you're saying to other people.

[Alex Ferrari]

So right now let's have a message for the troll that's watching at the moment.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I love the trolls because there's a troll. I'm sure there's a troll watching because they're in pain.

[Alex Ferrari]

They're in pain. Exactly. So if there's a troll watching, and I won't use the word troll, but someone.

[Marissa Lizapel]

They're trolling.

[Alex Ferrari]

They're trolling. All right, so that person who is right now going through. Through something and needs is watching this and is disagreeing with you.

[Marissa Lizapel]

That's fine.

[Alex Ferrari]

Wholeheartedly.

[Marissa Lizapel]

That's okay.

[Alex Ferrari]

And is about to write a vicious comment or does not like my shirt or your. Or anything about you or anything about me as.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yes, because there are people who just don't like you. Stop it. I like you. Stop it. It's okay. I have teddy bears in the car.

[Alex Ferrari]

Good. Thank you. Disturbing, but cool. So for that person, what would you say to them right now? Like, I'm about to write. I just finished watching this thing. I'm about to write this scathing comment or even worse, a scathing email towards us. What would you say to that person right now who is obviously in pain and we're not joking about it. And that's it. They are in pain and this is the way they are lashing out or dealing with it. And they do it to not just, just us, but everybody from the The Starbucks barista to the. The checkout person at. At the supermarket. And.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, it's projection.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

What would you say to them?

[Marissa Lizapel]

Well, the reason they do it is because they weren't seen, heard, or understood in their life by somebody. Somebody hurt them, and this is their way of being like, if I'm not going to get positive attention, I'm going to get negative attention.

[Alex Ferrari]

I don't care what kind of.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, I don't care.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah.

[Marissa Lizapel]

And it's more like the thing about it is that will come back to you if you put that out there. That's what you're doing with your time. You're wasting time, and it will come back. And it's just the way that the universe works. So put your time into consuming things that are going to bring you joy and realize, who is that? Because when you really ask people, why, why, why, why really comes down to somebody who hurt them in the past or somebody you remind them of somebody that, you know, did something similar with their job that you do or whatever, and they just. They're not connected to their purpose as they. They're bored. This is why they're doing it. But usually people who are writing this stuff, they weren't heard, seen, or understood. They didn't have a voice, or their voice was silenced, or their, you know, somebody didn't want to listen to what they had to say, and now they could do it behind the comfort of a computer and get to experience their emotions of anger or frustration or fear, whatever. They get to be able to express themselves freely without any consequence. Maybe in their childhood, there was a lot of consequences to that, or maybe they were bullied or maybe. Yeah, you know, but it's. They weren't heard, so they want. They want to be heard. So go out and do something more creative with your time and make it positive and get back to your purpose because that's where you're going to feel fulfilled. It's not going to be from writing comments. It's not going to be from hurting other people. It's going to be getting back to your purpose and your creativity. That's going to bring you joy because you're just wasting time. It's going to come back.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well said, Marissa. Well said. Thank you so much for being here.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I mean, thank you so much for having me.

[Alex Ferrari]

This is so much fun. I mean, I could talk to you for days and days.

[Marissa Lizapel]

We're gonna keep talking.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, I know, I know. We're definitely gonna be. Keep talking. It is such a pleasure having you. Thank you so much for being this, this just battle hardened light warrior that you are. And you're going.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I don't know. I don't know if I would say.

[Alex Ferrari]

I'm a battle hardened.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I don't know.

[Alex Ferrari]

Listen, girl, you got some shrapnel.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, there you go.

[Alex Ferrari]

You're battle hardened then.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I'm a hardened. Okay, I got the, I got the armor.

[Alex Ferrari]

You've got armor on. A thick armor on. Yes, but, but you are. You're trying to do amazing work in the world and you are doing amazing work in the world in your unique way.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

Beautifully unique way. But I appreciate you and everything you're.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Doing in this world. Do I get a next level soul hat too?

[Alex Ferrari]

If maybe.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Because I love that hat.

[Alex Ferrari]

We have. We might have a hat here. She came all this way just for merch. It's like I could have just sent it to you.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I could tell you that, like me coming here and taking this solo journey when I was supposed to be coming down with like other people and being a lot simpler really was a capacity. Like, it really stretched me, pushed me to my limits and I was. I learned so much about myself from like seeing different parts of the country and alone. It was it. I couldn't do this if I didn't have build the capacity to do it.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, it was your walkabout.

[Marissa Lizapel]

What?

[Alex Ferrari]

It's a walkabout. You know what a walkabout is, right? A walkabout is what the Aborigine do. Aborigine in Australia do something called a walkabout. Where I think is if I'm. And please correct me if I'm wrong, anybody in the comments. But, but when a man, a young boy, gets to a point where he has to become a man, they send him into the outback and he has to go into a walkabout. And that's basically what you're alone with your thoughts. It's Jesus in the desert. It's all this kind of stuff. And you did it on a road trip and you were able to open yourself up into a way and just be with yourself and to really connect with yourself and open your capacities to do those things. And that's what it is. It was your walkabout.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Yeah, it was definitely because when you identify as like, you know, you're leading in your business of your family, you have a role of a parent and you become consumed with your roles that you're playing. And when you are alone for that amount period of time on the road, like you have to eat at some point. You gotta sleep.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Ya gotta, you know, your body just will let you know, like, you're out of capacity, like. And so it was testing because I really thought I could go further times than I did and do more. And I'm like, no. My body is letting me know what its limits are and how I'm not paying attention and taking care of myself. So really cool stuff. Really cool stuff.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, you will get a hat. So thank you again for being here.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I appreciate you, Marissa. Thanks for having me. This is so much fun and I'm so glad that it wasn't a little, like, you know, office and what I had imagined it would be because I had no idea.

[Alex Ferrari]

Little corner, closet.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Little closet. When I came outside. Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

I appreciate you.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Thank you. It's so nice to be here.

[Alex Ferrari]

Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today. If you feel called to explore this conversation further, you'll find the show notes for this episode at nextlevelsoul.com forward/647. And if your soul is craving an even deeper journey, step into Next Level Soul tv, our streaming sanctuary for spiritual films, documentaries, original shows, guided meditations, channeling sessions, audiobooks and transformative teachings. It's a space created to support your awakening, your healing, and your return to the truth of who you really are. Begin your journey at next LevelSoul TV. Until next time. Keep expanding, keep seeking, and keep walking your path towards the next level of your soul.

[Commercial Narrator]

Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line, but first, There, the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.

[SpinQuest Advertiser]

I'm here with spinquest where you can play and win from the comfort of your own home with hundreds of slot games and all of the table games you love with real cash prizes. Right now, $30 coin packs are on sale for $10. For new users. It's [e-mail] that's S-P I N Q.

[Marissa Lizapel]

U-E-T.com SpinQuest is a free to play social casino void where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

UnitedHealthcare nurse Crystal checked in on a patient.

[Marissa Lizapel]

We do a routine call after surgery and I could tell in that she was struggling.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Crystal knew she needed help.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I knew that this is very serious. This is like septic. This is life threatening.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

And she knew just what to do.

[Marissa Lizapel]

And I called the hospital and said she's coming in.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Here are her labs and got her the help she needed.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I see my role at UnitedHealthcare as a life saving role.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Hear more stories like [e-mail] benefits, features and or devices vary by plan, area limitation and exclusions apply.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. Flu season is here and the in.

[Alex Ferrari]

Store pharmacy has you covered with a.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Free flu shot with most insurance plans. And as a thank you, get up.

[Alex Ferrari]

To $20 off your grocery purchase. Plus it's cough and cold season.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Stock up on all the season's essentials and get ready for relief with discounts.

[Alex Ferrari]

On items like Hall's Menthol Cough Drops.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Tylenol Cold and Flu and Mucinex Fast Max products. Offer ends December 30th. Restrictions apply and offers may vary by location.

[Alex Ferrari]

Visit Albertsons or Safeway.com for more details.

[SpinQuest Advertiser]

Forget whatever plans you have this weekend because you're staying at home and playing on spinquest and there's never been a better time to sign up than right now. New users get $30 coin packs for just $10. All the table games you love with hundreds of slot games and real cash Prizes. That's at spinquest.com S P I N.

[Marissa Lizapel]

Q U-E-T.com Spinquest is a free to play social casino void where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Deborah had to have surgery.

[Commercial Narrator]

I had hip surgery in November of 2024.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Her United Healthcare nurse Crystal checked on her.

[Marissa Lizapel]

We do a call after surgery and I could tell that she was struggling.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Deborah needed help.

[Commercial Narrator]

My infection markers were through the roof.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

And Crystal knew what to do.

[Marissa Lizapel]

I called the hospital and said she's.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Coming in and got Debra the help she needed.

[Commercial Narrator]

Crystal and United Healthcare saved my life.

[UnitedHealthcare Nurse Narrator]

Hear more stories like Debra'[e-mail] benefits, features and or devices vary by plan. Area limitation and exclusions apply.