NLS 654: He Met GOD — HIS Religion Had NOTHING To Do With It (EMOTIONAL NDE) with Jason Janas

Summary

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Next Level Soul Podcast with Alex Ferrari

Episode 654: He Met GOD — HIS Religion Had NOTHING To Do With It (EMOTIONAL NDE) with Jason Janis

Date: January 6, 2026
Guest: Jason Janas
Host: Alex Ferrari

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Episode Overview

This powerful episode dives into the near-death experience (NDE) of Jason Janas, who describes meeting God in a way that transcends any religious dogma. Through a candid and emotional conversation, Jason and Alex explore themes of suffering, religious trauma, unconditional love, self-realization, and the ultimate illusion of separation. The episode is as much a journey into Jason’s life story as it is a deconstruction of conventional religion and an invitation to awaken to a deeper spiritual truth within.

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Main Themes & Purpose

• Healing from trauma and abuse
• Religious upbringing vs. spiritual awakening
• The experience, insight, and after-effects of an NDE
• Challenging traditional religious concepts (heaven, hell, judgment)
• Oneness, unconditional love, and the illusion of separation
• Soul contracts, reincarnation, and the “chosen ones”
• Living a life of purpose and alignment with higher self
• Practical wisdom for listeners on awakening and self-love

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Jason’s Early Life and Spiritual Background

• Jason describes a difficult upbringing marked by abuse, instability, and a loss of faith instilled by his grandparents’ Catholic beliefs.
• “I grew up as just a Catholic kid… But I didn’t realize that I was becoming more and more angry. Right. God clearly doesn’t love me. Clearly.” (05:19)
• Explores universal themes of feeling unloved by God during trauma and how religious teachings sometimes deepen that wound.

2. Turning Point: The NDE (Near-Death Experience)

• Jason takes listeners through the visceral and frightening experience of falling gravely ill, coughing up blood, and ultimately dying of acute respiratory failure and hypoxia.
• The NDE began in the hospital ICU, triggered by a deep, heartfelt plea to God after decades of spiritual estrangement:
  • “I called out to God and I said, ‘Please don’t let me die. Please don’t let me die. I had no business talking to him, you know, with the things I have done in my life. I knew I was unworthy of him.’” (17:19)
• He describes witnessing the hospital and the world from above, encountering an all-pervading love, and the presence of God and Yeshua (Jesus).
  • “Pain is gone. I was young again. I was juiced. I was vibrating at such a high frequency, in constant, this love and this light. And I knew that was God.” (20:19)
• “For the first time in my life, I was loved unconditionally. There was no ifs, ands, or buts, nothing. I was at peace, utter peace.” (20:26)

3. Profound Spiritual Insights from the NDE

• The experience revealed:
  • Oneness with God and all existence (“I became the light. I was the light. That means I became God. I am God.” 25:37)
  • There is no heaven, no hell, no judgment, and no inherent good or bad.
  • All teachings about eternal damnation or worthlessness were false.

4. Aftereffects and Life Mission

• Jason felt compelled to share his experience and start teaching others:
  • “I have a mission. I have to let the world know that they have been duped, lied to, horrifically.” (28:19)
• He talks about anger towards the Church for the “lie” and contrasts the beauty of the NDE with religious dogma.
• Notable quote: “You picked the wrong person… No, you. And this is when I heard my father speak to me… ‘Why not? You are my son.’” (28:16–28:38)

5. Deconstructing Religious Narratives

• Both Alex and Jason discuss how religious institutions have created the concepts of sin, judgment, hell, and separation for control.
• “No one leaves Christianity because of Christ’s teachings.” (31:19 – Alex Ferrari)
• Exploration of how different cultures and individuals construct their own NDE environments (“You construct your own experience to kind of ease you in.” 34:19–35:35).

6. Soul Contracts, Reincarnation, and Being “Chosen”

• Jason recounts further spiritual experiences:
  • Encounters with spirit guides.
  • Learning he’s lived over 3,200 lifetimes (“Most of you have died between anywhere between 600 to 800 times.” 60:14)
  • Being told by a researcher, “You’ve been walking this Earth for over 30,000 years, helping humanity.” (65:00)
• Emphasizes: nobody is inherently special — we are all one with Father; some are just further along the journey.

7. Practical Wisdom and Integration

• Going Within: “Do not seek anything outside yourself. You will find pain, misery and death. Go within because that is where you are.”
• Self-Forgiveness: “I forgave myself for everything. I knew I had done nothing wrong.”
• On life’s purpose: “You’re on a journey to nowhere. There’s nowhere for you to go, period. You’re at home. You’re in a deep sleep, right? So what do you need to learn? Nothing. It’s simply a journey of rediscovery.” (57:09)
• On “ego death” as awakening and ascension.
• On soul blueprints: “You lay down mile markers…irrefutable, these are going to happen—that is, you really have no choice in the matter…how you get there, that’s your free will.” (89:21–90:03)
• On reincarnation: “Which never made any sense. I only get one time? And then I’m screwed?” (68:16–68:21)

8. Awakening and the Matrix Analogy

• Extensive Matrix and Avatar analogies for soul, illusion, and awakening (50:22–85:27).
• “It’s a video game. We are the soul. And you’re playing Mario Brothers and Mario is jumping…” (85:02)
• “The only thing that’s real is the inner world…the outside world is fairly intoxicating. That’s the point of this.” (50:09–50:21)

9. Recent Experiences, Synchronicities, and Guidance

• Shares encounters with spiritual guides/angels in everyday life, being nudged into alignment and “broken further” to meet his soul’s purpose (94:18+).
• “Sometimes you still need to be broken further in order to see the true version of yourself.” (110:56)

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• “God clearly doesn’t love me… I was being beaten and learning how to take care of things… I was really in survival mode.” — Jason (05:19)
• “In the life of a chosen one, a light bearer, God asks us for very difficult missions — because you’re the bringer of light into darkness.” — Jason (07:41)
• “I was up on the ceiling… The pain is gone. I was young again… I was in constant this love and this light. And I knew that was God.” — Jason (20:18)
• “For the first time in my life, I was loved unconditionally. There was no if, ands, or buts, nothing. I was at peace, at utter peace.” — Jason (20:26)
• “I became the light. I was the light. I became God. I am God.” — Jason (25:37)
• “You picked the wrong person… No, you. And [God] said: ‘Why not? You are my son.’” — Jason (28:16–28:38)
• “There is no heaven, there is no hell, there is no good, there is no bad, there is no right, there is no wrong. Everything I was taught my entire life was a lie.” — Jason (24:04)
• “No one leaves Christianity because of Christ’s teachings.” — Alex (31:19)
• “Anything I can do, you can do. And more. Wake up is what he was saying. Wake up, Wake up.” — Jason (58:25)
• “Do not seek anything outside yourself. You will find pain, misery and death. Go within because that is where you are. That is where everything is that God gave you on this journey.” — Jason (122:26)

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Important Timestamps

• [04:23] Jason recounts early life and religious upbringing
• [10:13] NDE begins; Jason describes his medical crisis and experience of dying
• [17:18] Jason pleads with God, beginning of out-of-body NDE
• [20:18] Full NDE vision, unconditional love, Yeshua, and revelation
• [28:19] Post-NDE mission and confrontation with religious teachings
• [31:19] Deconstruction of biblical history and context
• [34:19] NDEs as personal constructs depending on belief
• [41:00] Discussion of dogma and church’s construction of religious control
• [60:14] Soul contracts, number of lifetimes, and guidance from “Jeffrey”
• [89:21] Soul blueprint, choice, mile markers, and free will
• [110:56] The necessity of being “broken” and surrender in awakening
• [122:26] Jason’s final advice for awakening: go within

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Notable Moments

• Deep empathy for those suffering religious trauma.
• Challenging and debunking of toxic religious beliefs (“original sin,” “hell,” etc.).
• Relatable analogies (The Matrix, Avatar) to communicate metaphysical ideas.
• Emotional description of forgiveness, self-acceptance, and self-realization post-NDE.
• Encounters with “angels,” spirit guides, and signs of alignment in daily life.
• Practical instruction to seekers: awakening isn’t instant, comfort isn’t guaranteed, and true transformation is an inner process, often marked by pain and release of old self.

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Final Messages & Call to Action

• Jason’s closing message:
  “Go within. You are all beautiful, you are all perfect and you are all divine. And you are all right where you need to be. Just love one another as I love you. You’re all perfect.” (123:15)
• Alex’s summing up:
  The journey to awakening and alignment with your true self requires radical honesty, self-love, and a willingness to challenge inherited beliefs. You don’t need to seek outside—the light is and always has been within.

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For More Information

• Jason’s website: loveandlightjason.com
• YouTube channel: Love and Light Jason

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If you are seeking healing, deeper understanding, or freedom from old limiting beliefs, this episode offers both moving testimony and practical spiritual wisdom to remind you of your divine origin and the light you carry within.

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Transcript

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[Alex Ferrari]

Welcome to Next Level Soul, the place where we deep dive into the mysteries of existence, uncover hidden layers of consciousness, and explore the journey of the soul. I'm your host, Alex Ferrari, and every week we sit down with the world's leading spiritual teachers, mystics, scientists, and truth seekers to illuminate the path towards awakening. Here, we ask questions that truly matter. Why are we here? Where are we going? And how do we elevate our lives, our purpose, and our consciousness to the next level? This is a space for transformation, a space for expansion, A space to remember who you really are. So take a deep breath, open your mind, and prepare to step into your next level soul. Now, if you're ready to take your spiritual journey to the next level, explore Next Level Soul tv, our streaming platform filled with exclusive movies, docs, original shows, transformative series, guided meditations, channeling sessions, audiobooks, and deep spiritual teachings you won't find anywhere else. New content drops every week, helping you expand your consciousness and live from your highest potential. Start your journey today at Next LevelSoul TV. The views, opinions and statements expressed by our guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the beliefs or positions of of Next Level Soul, its host, or any of the companies they represent. Now let's dive into today's episode. I like to welcome to the show Jason Janis. How you doing, Jason?

[Jason Janis]

I'm fantastic. How are you?

[Alex Ferrari]

I'm doing great, brother. Thank you so much for making the trip down to Next Level Soul Studios.

[Jason Janis]

Absolutely. Thank you again for having me. I'm truly honored. Thank you.

[Alex Ferrari]

I appreciate it, my friend. So we've been having a lovely conversation prior to the recording. So I was like, let's just start talking because this is going to be fun. So you died?

[Jason Janis]

I did, yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

So tell me. No. So tell me a little bit about what was life like prior to your nde, and then we'll go deep down this lovely journey that you went through once you died and came back.

[Jason Janis]

Sure. You know, as a young boy, I grew up in a completely, totally normal, you know, Midwestern town in Illinois. As a normal 1970s boy. You know, my address, I didn't know it at the time was 10:10, so that didn't dawn on me until later. But I grew up as just a Catholic kid. My grandparents gave me my religion because I don't know anything if my parents were religious at all. I never some God at a church. I never had any interactions with them in church. It was my grandparents that gave it to me. So, you know, that Christianity was what I grew up on. So as a young boy growing up, that's what I was taught, and I believed truth of what I was being taught. Because why would your parents or grandparents lie to you?

[Alex Ferrari]

I know completely what you're saying.

[Jason Janis]

So that's. That's the background that I had in that. You know, I had a very difficult life. I was abused as a child. So I grew up with that. I grew up with a lot of resentment, hate. I tried to save my sister from the beatings, so I took more beatings for her. My mother was a hardcore alcoholic, and it was just an unpleasant childhood. So I became very angry at a very young age. You know, I learned how to cook early, by the time I was five or six, because meals were irregular at times. So I learned how to cook from my grandparents. I learned everything from my grandmother. That's how I grew up. But I didn't realize that I was becoming more and more angry. Right. God clearly doesn't love me. Clearly. Right. Because the struggles that I'm going through are like, PhD level. Instead of having cookies and ice cream and all this fun, I'm being beaten and learning how to take care of things and learn how to clean and all. Like, I mean, I still had fun as a kid and did riding bikes and going to the pools and stuff like that, but I was really in survival mode.

[Alex Ferrari]

Can I jump in here? Because this is something really, really important I want to kind of dive into before you continue.

[Jason Janis]

Sure.

[Alex Ferrari]

You were talking about that God doesn't love me anymore.

[Jason Janis]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

There's so many people, especially Catholics. I was raised Catholic, as you know, that when things are. When their lives are not going well or if it's a consistent pattern of, like, my God, I was raised by abusive parents or had trauma as a child or something like that, or even as an adult, that things just keep having it just keep pounding. Like, life keeps pounding you. And you're like, I go to church, I do everything I'm supposed to do, and yet I'm not getting to where I need to be or where I want to be. And then you start getting angrier and angrier and angrier to the point where you're like, God doesn't love me anymore. Which, as I say that out loud, is such a ridiculous concept. Because he loves everything.

[Jason Janis]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

He loves everybody. He loves everything because he made everything right.

[Jason Janis]

There are no mistakes.

[Alex Ferrari]

There's no. There's no. There's no mistakes. Exactly. There's not one. Not one single waste.

[Jason Janis]

No.

[Alex Ferrari]

Of a. I mean, if you look at just nature's ecosystem, everything works.

[Jason Janis]

That's correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

Together. Even though we might not see it.

[Jason Janis]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

But we. But there is a system going on. So I just wanted to kind of bring that into the. To the spotlight a little bit. Because a lot of people watching this might have the exact same feelings that you do.

[Jason Janis]

Right? And I'm sure there are, because a lot of us chose very difficult lives. And in the life of a chosen one, or starseed, a light bearer, God asks us for very difficult missions. Because you're the bringer of light in darkness. What does light do to the dark? It crushes it. When it's on. Right. There is no darkness. So the light bearers, starseeds, are meant to do that, to bring the light into the darkness and crush it. Be that love. Be that beacon of light. When somebody sees you, they may not agree with your answer. Most people don't like me at all. I mean, when I was sitting in the airport, people just flew from where I was sitting. They want to have nothing to do with me. Why I'm a mirror. I'm shedding the light on their darkness. And they don't like it, right? They don't understand it. I do. But that's why I had that difficult childhood. But I didn't know it at the time. I just thought I was unloved, you know? And it became. After more and more time, it became anger, right? Then one morning, I was about 78 or 79. So I was about 8 or 9, my grandmother woke me up to go to church. And I remember, come on, Jace, it's time to wake up. And she would, you know, And I kicked her hard. And I sat up and I said, don't you ever wake me up to go to church. Don't you ever. God hates me. He doesn't love me. And she knew, and she started to cry. She said, chase, I said, don't you ever. All take care of myself. God doesn't love me anymore, you know? And, I mean, I was an altar boy. She took me out of public school, put me into Catholic school. So I read that Bible from COVID to cover, and I knew I was doomed. You know, I had some sexual experiences as a younger person with a bisexual experience. I was an abomination to my father. Clearly, he hated me, the abuse and everything. So I was like, clearly, okay, I know where I'm doomed. I know where I'm going. And so don't you ever wake me up, right? And I had a very difficult life. I mean, robbing Peter to pay Paul throughout my entire life, two failed marriages, you know, a child that didn't love me at the time or didn't care about me. And I'm like, clearly God doesn't care, you know, And I know. And I guess I've accepted my fate, you know, because I believed in what I was taught. I believed that the Bible was God's very breath, his written word, you know, because that's what Christianity shoved down my throat for years, of course, you know, and I choked on it and I believed on it. And then April 2nd of 2020 came, which profoundly changed my life and set me on this path of teaching that I will not stop.

[Alex Ferrari]

So what happened on that date, sir?

[Jason Janis]

April 2 was the day of my death. I came home from this job I didn't like. I made a sandwich, took a shower, made a sandwich, sat down, it was a bagel sandwich. And I turned on the TV and I was watching tv and I took a couple bites and also I threw up. And I'm like, that was the most wretched taste. It didn't even taste like eggs. And what I was eating. And I'm like, God, what was that? You know? And I was having difficulty breathing and I was waking up for the last couple of weeks with the taste of blood in my mouth.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's not ever a good sign.

[Jason Janis]

No. And I'm like, did I bite my tongue, my lips? No, nothing hurts, you know? And I'm like, what is that? And then I went to take another bite and I coughed and up came bright red blood. And I'm like, not. You know when you cut your finger and it's dark red, this was pink. And I'm like. And I'm like. And I'd cough again. And I kept coughing like every two or three seconds. And I felt filled up my plate full of blood, this pink blood. It was horrible tasting. I remember that. And I'm like, next thing I know I'm going, I can't breathe. And I'm starting to panic. Like life is going on around you and I'm actively dying and I'm like, panic. And I grab my cell phone and I'm trying to get a hold of my ex wife because she's a nurse, an rn. If anybody can help me, she could. And I'm like, I need you to answer the phone. She wouldn't answer the phone. And finally, on the fourth or fifth try, I was fac. FaceTiming and I had made it to the kitchen sink because now I'm filling up the kitchen sink with this blood. And she's like, what do you want? And I tried to speak and blood covered the phone. And I just remember her. One of the last things I remember was like, jason. And I said, I don't feel good, you know, And I'm, you know, and I'm trying to breathe and, you know, coughing. And she goes, I said, I'm sorry, I'm gonna go lay down. And she said, jason, if you lie down, you're going to die. And I said, I said, I don't feel good. I'm tired. I said, I'm just, I'm sorry to bother you. And I'm still coughing up this blood. She says, jason, if you lay down, you're going to die. Please don't lay down. And I said, I. And she hung up the phone. And that's the last thing I'm like, wow, why couldn't our conversations be like that in our marriage, you know? And I was like. And next thing I know, I wake up in the hospital.

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[Jason Janis]

Nothing is everything.

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[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Jason Janis]

She must have dialed 911. They came in and they came in.

[Alex Ferrari]

But you were out.

[Jason Janis]

I was. I have no clue of the ambulance or anything. And there was a tube down my throat, IV in the carotid artery. My hands and feet were strapped to the bed. I couldn't move them more than an eighth of an inch. Stuff up my nose in a myriad of doctors. Now it's dark out. I have no idea what day it is, what had taken place, how long I was gone or out. And I have these doctors trying. Do you know who are you? Do you know your name? And I'm, I can't speak. I can't even move my. You know. And you're like, do you know where you are? Trying to answer questions, but I have a 2 inch tube, you know, And I'm like, it's lovely when they do that. That was the most brutal experience of my life. It was when you see actors going through this on stage and they just jump up and they're walking. No, no, you don't do that. It's brutal. It was the most excruciating pain I've ever been in. Dying was very painful. I was drowning. Basically my cause of death was acute respiratory failure, hypoxia. So I basically. They pumped out 2.8 liters of blood from my lungs. That's 11.8 cups of blood. So I drown.

[Alex Ferrari]

So is this after you woke up or this was.

[Jason Janis]

I woke up after. So when I was FaceTiming her, she hung up, called 911, and I don't. I must have passed out somewhere in either the kitchen or somewhere. I don't know. So they came and got me.

[Alex Ferrari]

But you weren't dead yet.

[Jason Janis]

No.

[Alex Ferrari]

Okay.

[Jason Janis]

So all I remember then was blackness. Just blackness.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah. You were out.

[Jason Janis]

I was out, and I woke up in the hospital, and this is where the NDE took place when? I don't know. I'm assuming a few days later. Right. What had to be a few days later. So I. I said, you know, I was trying to say something, and I was like. She goes, you won't pull the tubes and. And stuff out. I go, I. And I said, you know, so I made this. Like, you want to write something? And I'd write, I itch. Just, you know, because they were giving me fentanyl for the pain.

[Alex Ferrari]

Lovely.

[Jason Janis]

No, it wasn't. It's a brutal. I know what you're saying, but, you know, when you see somebody, like, a coma state, their mind is fully active. Okay. You're. I mean, I was having horrific hallucinations or, you know, like, I was being kidnapped and dragged and all these kind. It was horrific. It was the most horrific experience of my life. So I'm like, I itch. And I just started scratching my body. And they like, okay, he's not going to do it. And I just laid there. And the moment I awoke, though, up in the left hand corner, where's a tv? And I didn't know that the ICU was roomed, so they put me in a different room. But right where that TV was, there was an undeniable presence. I could feel it, you know, and it was strong and it was loving, and I just wanted to go there. And I kept trying to peek through the myriad of doctors. Then one day a nurse came in and said, jason, do you want me to turn on the TV for you? And I'm like, no. I mean, how do you tell somebody. Somebody standing there. There's somebody right there. Okay? They're gonna think I'm nuts, right? And I'm like, no. You know, and I just kept staring at the tv, and if I get emotional on you, because I am gonna tell you exactly the way it happened, and I'm already feeling it. So the nurses were gone. Everything was gone. They had finally taken the tube out and the IV and stuff like this, and it was some, like, early afternoon. I don't know what day it was. And I'm staring at the tv. There's nobody around. And by this time, I was so lethargic, I had lost 75 pounds, okay? So I was very weak. I couldn't move my hands very much, but I got up on my elbows and I just began shaking uncontrollably because I had no strength. Now, this is the first time, Alex, since 1977, 78, that I talked to God. I abandoned him. I threw him out like garbage. I threw Jesus out like garbage. And I stared at that TV because that presence was there. And I just. I called out to God and I said, please don't let me die. Please don't let me die. I had no business talking to him, you know, with the things that I have done in my life. I knew I was unworthy of him. And I called out to him and I said, please don't let me die. I love you. I said I'd never stop believing in you. But I quit having a relationship with you, and I'm truly sorry. I said, I love Jesus. I said, I love you both. And I said, please don't take my babies from me, please. And I'm feeling unworthy of him. And I said, please let me see them again. Please let me see them again. Because I knew I was still dying. Something inside told me that I was not done with this. And I wasn't. And I said, there was somebody in my life. That which is a twin flame, but I won't mention her name yet. I said, please don't take her from me. Please. Please let me hold her hands. Let me kiss her. Let me smell her breath. Let's make love again. And in that moment, I was at the top of the ceiling. And I was in const. And I could see everything around me. The nurse's station, all 30 other patients on ventilators dying.

[Alex Ferrari]

Pain's gone.

[Jason Janis]

Pain is gone. I was young again. I was juiced. And I was vibrating at such a high frequency in constant this love and this light. And I knew that was God, that I that was there. I was like, wow. You know? And I was in constant this love. And I knew that I had done nothing wrong and that I was loved. For the first time in my life, I was loved unconditionally. There was no if, ands, or buts, nothing. I was at peace, at utter peace. And I knew exactly where I was, exactly where I was. And the thought came into my mind. It was an instant. I was like, I'm Home. And I'm just looking outside and I could see I was up on the like third or fourth floor. I could see the entire floor. I could see through the wall. So I was seeing through the wall and I could see every blade of grass in the field. Every blade of grass independently. I could see the serrations in each blade of grass. I could see the veins and I could see the colors moving through. And then they turned towards me and sent me all of this unconditional love. I could see all the trees, souls. And it looked like Obi Wan Kenobi when he came back. He had the little halo, right? This little white light around it. All their souls and they were so happy to see me. And the colors that I was witnessing were just magnificent and beautiful. They just don't exist here in this realm. They don't. And I am just feeling this unconditional love flow through me. It was as warm as the sun and it flowed through me like a river, right? And then the next thought that came in before I could get it formed is like, what a beautiful day to die. It was absolutely like, I have done it before. That's exactly what it was. It was just an absolute knowing that I had done this before. It was absolutely normal. And that was that. And then how long this took, I don't know. It could have been 10 seconds, it could have been five hours, right? Time ceased to exist because time doesn't exist. And I felt another presence come to me. And my gaze, which isn't a gaze because I'm looking down at a body on the bed that I had no love for, but it was like at 12 o' clock because I was looking that way and then all of a sudden I still looking that way. It's hard to describe, you know what I'm saying? 360 degree vision. So. And facing forward. And that's when Yeshua showed up. And I instantly recognized his energy. And he bestowed love upon me. That it is unimaginable to anyone here. So I'm feeling father's love. I'm feeling this love. And it's almost the best word to describe it would be stifling. It was so much love. And I was adored unconditionally. And it was just the most profound and beautiful experience. And I'm thinking I shouldn't be here, right? I was lied to. So again, how long this took, I don't know. But then I felt Yeshua come up to me and eat what was my soul. He placed his hands on me very gently and loving and they seemed so huge, and they were so warm. Everything was warmth and love, you know, he played, and he guided my soul back. And then I felt him on my body. And then he gently laid me down on the bed, and I was out like a light, like, gone. And then I woke up at how long again? I don't know. But a myriad of doctors shaking me. Jason? Jason. Jason, We've been trying to wake you for hours. You know what it seemed like? And I'm like. And the presence was gone. And I'm like. I'm looking. They're like, you okay? And I'm like, I can't tell them just what happened. I mean, what was that? What just happened?

[Alex Ferrari]

So were you dead?

[Jason Janis]

My body was.

[Alex Ferrari]

Your body was. So when they say they're trying to wake you, it's like you coded, right?

[Jason Janis]

So just there, you know, and somehow. Well, I came back because they pushed my soul back into my body. And I woke up, and, you know, the doctors were there to bring in medical equipment and stuff, and they're like, are you okay? You know, And I'm like, yeah, I'm fine. But where? You know, they were like, what happened? And I'm like, I can't tell you that. You know, I felt something. I knew that they would think I was nuts, and, you know, and all that. And I'm like, I need you all to leave. Are you all right? I said, I'm fine. I need you all to leave. And I'm. Raspy voice. Because I can't really talk. I'm not taking any meds. I want you all out of the room now. And they all left. And I'm like, what was that? What happened to me? That's not the place that I should have gone to, right? And in that moment, you know, it became abundantly aware that, you know, there is no heaven. There is no hell. There is no good, there is no bad, there is no right. There is no wrong. Everything I was taught my entire life was a lie. And within that time frame of whatever that, you know, however long I was on the other side, that was shown to me and given to me. I was one with everything. Within a trillionth of a second, I knew everything there was to ever know. I am everything that has ever existed or will ever exist. In that moment, I became one with the Father. I became the light. I was the light. That means I became God. I am God.

[Alex Ferrari]

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[Jason Janis]

And when I realized that, I was like, I have a mission. I have. I have to let the world know that they have been duped, lied to, horrifically, right? And sure enough, when I finally got back home, there was that nudge, you know, I got mad at Father, and I was, this is a couple months later, because I'm still feeling this unconditional love, you know, and it was kind of an ease off process, you know? And I'm like, I'm shaking my fist. Look, you picked the wrong. Look, pal, you picked the wrong person, right? Because I knew I wasn't the nice person. I've done bad things in my life, you know, And I'm like, you picked the wrong person. I said, no, you. And I'm pacing back and forth, and I finally got into my bedroom and I was in my bathroom walking out. I said, you picked the wrong person. You should have picked the pope or a bishop. And this is when I heard my father speak to me. Now, he speaks to you through your emotions all the time. We've just learned to tune them out, right? But this is when he spoke to me, and these were his exact words. He's kind of a little on the myth side. And when I said that again, I said, you picked the wrong person. And he said, why not? You are my son. I collapsed on the floor at the end of my bed, and I looked up and I said, for all that I am, I am you. I forgave myself for everything. I knew I had done nothing wrong. And I wiped the altar clean of all the false idols that I had put up there. And on my altar is my father, and that is it. And that's when the nudge came. Like, start your YouTube channel. Start your website. And people just fell into place. They came in, they started my YouTube channel for me. They started my website. I've had clients. Right now, it's not as active as I'd like it, but that's coming. But it was the nudge to get me to where I needed to be, to get my ball rolling, you know? And I was mad. I was very angry, not at my near death experience, but that I had been lied to by the church, by the Catholic Church.

[Alex Ferrari]

The thing is, that is a very common feeling, being a recovering Catholic. I was livid for years after I kind of realized what was going on. And it's just always been something that. It just sticks in my craw a lot because I was like, I've been lied To. I've been lied to. I've been lied to. And then doing this work, the more, the deeper down these rabbit holes you go in regards to how the Bible was created and what the true teachings were and how they've been manipulated and all of this kind of stuff. Because I had a friend of mine once say, no one leaves Christianity because of Christ's teachings.

[Jason Janis]

And what's in the Bible with Christ's teachings aren't even there. You know, I mean, it's. I mean, if you look at the Old Testament, it's really the Koran, right? Because it's.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, it's the Torah or the Torah.

[Jason Janis]

You know what I'm saying?

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, it's the Torah.

[Jason Janis]

And it's not even anything. I mean, even by the time of the Christ, even by the time Jesus was here, the Jews finally didn't have. They didn't decide on what were going to be the chronicle scriptures of the Old Testament yet. Right. So that didn't come until year 100.

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, yeah. And then the Bible didn't come into real play. The one we kind of know is for at least 3, 400 years, right?

[Jason Janis]

In the year 382, that's when they finally decided on Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. So tell me, five years ago on a Tuesday, what did you have for dinner?

[Alex Ferrari]

Exactly.

[Jason Janis]

Okay, so now you're going to tell me, right? And I was like, okay. I said, no. I said, this is intolerable. I will not stand for this. People need to know who they are. Because in that moment, moment when I told you I became the light, I was one with the Father. So.

[Alex Ferrari]

So let's go. Let's go back to your. The actual time when you were on the other side.

[Jason Janis]

Yeah.

[Alex Ferrari]

So you're. You're floating. But. So when you saw. You were still kind of in this realm, but you saw light because you're saying you see the blades of glass, you see the tree and all that stuff, Is that here or is that.

[Jason Janis]

We have to understand, when you leave your body, you're in a different dimension.

[Alex Ferrari]

Correct.

[Jason Janis]

Right. So it's not technically heaven because you're not dead yet. Okay. So it's a place where you form a safe place. Okay.

[Alex Ferrari]

Kind of like what dreams may come.

[Jason Janis]

Correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

That Robin Williams created his world.

[Jason Janis]

Correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

So, okay, that's. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't like the. The grass and the. And the leaves outside.

[Jason Janis]

Did you see the Shack? The movie the Shack?

[Alex Ferrari]

No.

[Jason Janis]

Oh, my God. You should watch the Shack. It is a beautiful. But it's the same thing. You create this in between. You're in between this world and home, but it's a look alike to heaven. Okay? So it's construct a construct, right? Because you're not really dead yet. So you can't enter home yet. But it's your safe place that you can commune with father and have your souls or Jesus show up. Relatives or relatives, whatever you, whatever. See, we create our near death experience before we come.

[Alex Ferrari]

Which is another point I wanted to ask you about because I know you've spoken about this on your YouTube channel. One thing that I'm going to say, 97% of every near death experience I've spoken to, near death experience or I've spoken to, has been a positive experience. Yes, but there's those few that are negative, right? And people are like, oh, I said there's proof that that's a hell or there's proof of this or that. My understanding is that we construct, like you just said, our, our own near death experience. It's almost like a, it's almost like a ramp or a easing in because when you transition, it's pretty abrupt from this world to the other.

[Jason Janis]

It's extremely abrupt. It's, it's like crossing the line. Boom, boom. I mean that's it. There's no gray matter, right?

[Alex Ferrari]

So if all of a sudden you were raised a Catholic your entire life and Muhammad is waiting for you and it's all a Muslim environment, let's say, right? And it's coming, you're gonna freak the hell out because you're still just trying to process what's happening to you. So a lot of times from what I understand is you kind of ease into it by constructing a near death experience that makes you feel comfortable. Hence if it's grandma, Grandma sometimes shows up. If it's your third grade teacher who did something for you, right? She shows up. If it's your animals, if it's Jesus, I always, I always joke. Jesus is the hardest working man in show business because he shows up at everyone's near death experience kids, right? But he's had a lot of them. But there's also Buddha and many other ones. There's Muhammad, there's many other teachers, Indian gurus and so on that show up at different people, be yeshiva, all that kind of stuff at different near death experiences to kind of ease in. If you're Hindu all your life and you have Jesus show up, you're gonna.

[Jason Janis]

Probably like, what, right?

[Alex Ferrari]

What, what is happening here, right? So it's kind of like you're constructing, you're constructing your own experience to kind of ease you in. Is that how you see it as well?

[Jason Janis]

Right. Because it's such a profound change from what you were just experiencing to, to this. I mean it's like a shock to the system. Yeah. And cold plunge, right. Taking the, you know.

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[Jason Janis]

The polar bear plunge. Right. You know, you're at 98 degrees and now you jumped into 30 degree water. It's. It's a shock. So. But I instant. The thing with me is like I instantly knew where I was and I've watched many hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of near death experience and I had an overwhelming sense that I was home. I was a home feeling. I knew exactly where I was instantly. I'm home. And I said it shockingly like I shouldn't be here. Yet it's not. Because again, I knew everything there was to know. So I knew it wasn't my time. And I was like, I'm home. How would I know I'm home? How would I know I'm home? The Bible never said that. Bible said I'm going to go to hell. That there is no safe place for me. How would I know I'm home?

[Alex Ferrari]

To be fair, the Bible's terms on what goes to hell or not is pretty gray and it's pretty sensitive. So like I ate meat on Friday, go into hell.

[Jason Janis]

But then again it's over some, you know, when you go to church, you know, you fornicated around, you cheated on your wife, you robbed a bank, you masturbated, whatever, right? And then you go to church and all for the, you know, for the love of Jesus, he love you're, you're forgiven.

[Alex Ferrari]

So I love, I love this is a bit that George Carlin the great, late, the late, great George Carlin did a bit on. I think it was George Carlin that did a bit on. He was raised Catholic as well. And he's like, you know, early on in my life, you know, they, you know, if you ate meat on Friday, right? That was a, that was a punishable offense. Like that was hardcore. You're going to hell. But then, you know, over the last 30 years or so, they kind of loosened up on that. They loosened up on that. They changed their, change their mind on it. The official, right, the official Vatican position on eating meat on Friday, it's not that bad. He goes, well, what happened to all the people before they got sentenced right to hell because of the meat thing? Do they all get out now or are they still in there going, man, just bad timing. Like right it was.

[Jason Janis]

That's a joke.

[Alex Ferrari]

But it's exactly what it is. That's what he was pointing out. It's a joke.

[Jason Janis]

It's a farce.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's man made. Another friend of mine says it's people doing peoplely things.

[Jason Janis]

Right?

[Alex Ferrari]

That's what it is, right?

[Jason Janis]

I mean, it really comes down to your choice. Do you want to believe that this is the written word of God? Because anytime that something comes from a divine experience, it comes through what language you know.

[Alex Ferrari]

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[Jason Janis]

And I'm not talking Sanskrit, English, German, whatever, I'm talking what religion you were brought up with, right? The Catholic church wrote the Bible, period. That's it. They took it over. Rome did, Rome did, right? They took it over from the Jews and they created the Bible and they passed it down to you coming from the Holy Spirit. Take our word for it, right?

[Alex Ferrari]

That was the sales pitch.

[Jason Janis]

That was the sales pitch. And only we can interpret the Bible for you, the Catholic, until they started reading, right? And then, and then, you know, so. Right. And then you're like, wow. And. But it worked, right? You fell for it. The lie.

[Alex Ferrari]

When the. Listen, I walked into, I don't know how old St. Peter's Basilica is, but I know it's fairly old. I don't know the date of when it was finished, sure, originally, but I walked in to St. Peter's Basilica in the Vatican. I walked in and I looked around and I just said, I turned to my wife, I go, if I was a peasant living in the fields, working, you know, and I walked into this, there would be, there's no reference that I would have other than living in a shack or living small towns. And you walk and you see this, like, God must have built this. God must have built this. And that's, that was what they're saying, this is God's house, blah, blah, blah, all this stuff, right? So the, the vast impression, all these cathedrals. I went throughout Europe looking at visiting cathedrals and you just walk in, you're like, they're built as these awe inspiring places to help with the narrative of what they're selling, correct? It was, it was, it was. And then on top of that, they commissioned the greatest artists of their generation in the, you know, Renaissance, all that. Everywhere you turn there is propaganda, church propaganda on some of the greatest pieces of art ever created because they were commissioned by the church.

[Jason Janis]

Correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

But it's, again, all part of the propaganda moving forward. It was fascinating to see all of that.

[Jason Janis]

I'm sure it was. Because it is awe inspiring.

[Alex Ferrari]

You know, it is awe inspiring. But also, I got to a point and my wife, both of us got to a point where we're going to museums in Italy and in France and Spain, and we're just like, I can't see Jesus being tortured anymore. Like, every image of him is just, you know, the cadaver on the wall kind of vibe. And it was just like we were looking for a smiley Jesus or a ha, or even just one that he's not bleeding and in pain and they're rare to find. It was just.

[Jason Janis]

It's.

[Alex Ferrari]

But again, that was part of the sales pitch, right? That, like, he suffered for your sins. He's the one that did all this stuff. And it just drove me nuts.

[Jason Janis]

And, you know, I will tell you this, that Jesus felt no pain. He wasn't in his body when the crucifixion started. The whole thing, he was simply. He was simply watching it from home. Like when he became enlightened when John baptized him in the Jordan, right? That is when his enlightenment began. He was hit with a massive amount of electricity or energy, right? And he came up from that baptism and he was jerking around and having spasms, and he wandered off into the. Into the woods, into the weeds by the river, where he stayed for three weeks. Because he knew if he started walking like that, like twitch, people would think he was possessed. You know, the ignorant people back then, and they would have stoned him, right? So he sat off in the weeds and you know this in the Bible, as he wandered the desert for three weeks, tempted by the devil. No, he sat there and his fight began with the ego. He began to kill the ego. And the ego was, you're not strong enough to do this. The devil doesn't exist. That's something created by the Catholic Church and Dante. Right, right. Dante's infernal. But he was battling the ego. And he stayed by the river. He goes, something to eat and drink. And when he was healthy enough to, he walked home. But that's what the church created, that situation and turned it into the devil. He wandered the desert, tempted by the devil. No, he was sitting there fighting the ego.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, from my understanding and from the research I've done, we were talking about. My favorite years are the yada, yada years of Jesus. 12 Yada, yada, yada, yada. He's 30 those years, to my understanding. He did get a lot of training. He did go to a lot of different places and learned a lot of things. But when John did that to him, it might have taken him to that next level of his mission.

[Jason Janis]

That's correct. It did.

[Alex Ferrari]

And it sounds like, from the way you're explaining it, is that jolt of electricity. The nervous system in a body needs time to acclimate to that kind of energy.

[Jason Janis]

Correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

Because we're just not. And psychics deal with that. And so do psychic mediums and channelers deal with that when they're. That energy comes through them. They just. It takes. You have to, like, build up a tolerance, a capacity.

[Jason Janis]

Right. The battery has to open up.

[Alex Ferrari]

So he was in there three. He was probably pretty open already.

[Jason Janis]

Well, you know, when you were speaking about where he learned Jesus early on was Mary Magdalene was his wife. So they were a very close couple. They stole away together. Would they go out into the woods and they would talk, lean up against trees, whatever. But then Jesus said, I have to go. And he was a young man at the time.

[Alex Ferrari]

He was 12 when he left. But then.

[Jason Janis]

Right. So he traveled.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's the last time we saw him.

[Jason Janis]

Last time you saw him. But when he left, he was about 18, 19. No, I think he was like 23, 24. And he was going to be gone for three years. So he said, I'm going to go on a long trip. Right. So he left. Mary, where do you get this information? Came from home.

[Alex Ferrari]

Got it.

[Jason Janis]

So he traveled across North Africa. All right. So he would, you know, when he'd run out of money, he got into some good caravans and he'd travel with them. And then when he ran out of money, he wouldn't go to work, you know, unloading ships, working the docks. A working man, right? Gather up some money. And then he would travel and he made it to India, where he learned from the masters on how to meditate, how to become one with the mind. Heart and mind are one.

[Alex Ferrari]

Self realization.

[Jason Janis]

Self realization. And he stayed there for three years or two and a half years or so. And then he worked his way back. Okay, back across North Africa, through the caravans, doing the same thing, meeting wonderful people. He wanted to get to know you. He knew what you were. Didn't matter whether you were a prostitute, a barkeep, didn't matter to him. He loved you unconditionally and he wanted to get to know you. So then he came back and can you imagine? You know, we have our phones when we leave hey, honey, you know, there was no writing, there was no communication. He was just gone for three years, right?

[Alex Ferrari]

Hoping that he'll come back.

[Jason Janis]

Hoping if he's still alive, to even come back. And, you know, Mary's mother is like, just, he's dead, you know, and then there he is, he comes back. And that's where his knowledge came from. That's where his teachings came from. That's where he taught you, anything I can do, you can do. Do not seek anything out. When he said, the materialistic world will bring you ruin. Why? Because there's nothing there. If you seek anything outside yourself, you will find pain, misery and death. Search within because there is the kingdom of God.

[Alex Ferrari]

And the funny thing is, imagine saying.

[Jason Janis]

Those words back then he was truly revolutionary.

[Alex Ferrari]

Now it's revolutionary.

[Jason Janis]

Correct? I mean, but back then, I mean, that was, I mean, when he spoke those words, when he said, when he finally said, I and the Father are one, that was his death sentence. He knew it too. When he spoke that, he said, I and the Father are one. And they picked up stones to stone him. And he said, for which of the good works that I have shown you from the Father, am I to be stoned? And they said, for your good works not, but you being a man, make yourself God. Now his response was epic and of course could only come from Yeshua. He said, is it not written in your laws? I said, you are gods. And they all dropped stones. They are stones. And he says, then how you know, how is that blasphemy? That was his death sentence. That was it. They hunted him down and they finally executed him. They killed him as a common criminal. He broke the law. He was not allowed to teach what he was teaching. It was. Was against the law. And the Church got him for it. They murdered him.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, it wasn't the Church yet. It was Rome at that time.

[Jason Janis]

No, it was Rome. It was the Pharisees or the religious institutions of the time, let's put it that way.

[Alex Ferrari]

He was a troublemaker.

[Jason Janis]

He was a troublemaker. Yeah. He muddied up the water and he had no problems doing it. He didn't care because he knew what he was doing. Everything that. It's a dream that we're in, it's a non reality, an illusion.

[Alex Ferrari]

So, yeah, to kind of jump into what you were saying in regards to the looking for anything outside of yourself, that I completely understand that idea. And the more you go down the spiritual path, the more you understand that the outside world is not real.

[Jason Janis]

Correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

The only thing that's real is the inner world correct. But the. But the outside world is fairly intoxicating.

[Jason Janis]

It's meant to draw you in. It's meant.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's the point of this.

[Jason Janis]

That's the whole point of it. Right?

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah. I mean it's. And sorry everyone, I'm going to bring it up again. The Matrix. It's exactly what they were saying in the Matrix.

[Jason Janis]

It is correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

He's like when you see Cypher sitting there, he goes, I know that this steak is not real.

[Jason Janis]

Right?

[Alex Ferrari]

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[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show. But I don't care. And he takes a bite of it. He's like, I don't want the real world. The real world's too difficult for me. I don't. I don't want to. I don't want to. I want to just live in this delusion. And that's who that character was.

[Jason Janis]

Correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

And Neo being essentially the one. And also basically being Jesus. Jesus Christ.

[Jason Janis]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

In that thing, in that, that story, he was able to not only learn the truth of the reality of the Matrix, of the illusion, the dream and the reality, but then he learned the ability to manipulate both.

[Jason Janis]

Correct. And that's what Jesus did.

[Alex Ferrari]

And that's what all the masters do.

[Jason Janis]

And you have to understand that when Father chose. And I call God Father because of my near death experience, because I felt like in the moment of my life.

[Alex Ferrari]

You'Ve got that relationship now, right?

[Jason Janis]

I felt like I was his one and only son. The love that was bestowed on me, so. And I call God Father.

[Alex Ferrari]

He says that to everybody.

[Jason Janis]

I know, but people get so there's.

[Alex Ferrari]

Others up that's not just you, Jason.

[Jason Janis]

I know. And it's like people get so mad at me. Quit calling him Father. He's God or source. I said, no, he is my father. He is my creator, and I am one with him.

[Alex Ferrari]

Sure.

[Jason Janis]

And. But regardless is like when God chose Jesus, he not only we come from a different dimension, we all do, but not only that, but Jesus was in a different. He was a highly advanced being from a highly advanced society. Okay. What we would call an extraterrestrial and an alien. Right? He was a highly advanced being, so he was a master. So when Father chose him and they got into their little powwow, Jesus actually said, man, I don't really think it's a good time. And he's like, no, they're not ready. Right? And he says, no, I need you now. And of course, when Father asks us of something, right, we do it. So Jesus came, but Jesus was a master, a highly advanced being. He beat the game. He was living a life of a highly advanced being. So when he came, I mean, I couldn't even imagine how difficult it must have been for him to lower himself to such standards. But his love for all of us is something you don't understand. So that's where Father got Jesus from. He wasn't your regular pow wow kind of guy, so.

[Alex Ferrari]

And, but the thing is too that I always ask, I always ask the same. I always say the same thing. Like, man, what was it like trying to teach what Jesus was teaching at the time he was teaching it? And then you look at someone like Buddha, how was it like when he was around trying to teach what he was teaching?

[Jason Janis]

Right?

[Alex Ferrari]

You know, and all of the masters, they all have. They all run up against these walls because that's what this place is even today. I mean, and someone, Someone. I always bring him up because he's one of my. I'm very deeply connected to Ms. Yogananda, who died in the 20th century. But he promoted Christ's teachings so wholeheartedly with Indian yogic philosophies and everything like that, and pushed all of that out there. But the resistance that you. He got. And we're talking about the 30s, right? The 40s. This is not that long ago. No, it's massive. So I always ask what would happen if Jesus really did come back? Like, what would. Literally, what would happen? Like, what if he would start doing miracles? People would be like, that's AI or that's a magic trick.

[Jason Janis]

Right?

[Alex Ferrari]

Or, you know, because now we're so kind of cynical about everything, like, what would he have to do?

[Jason Janis]

It wouldn't be good enough. Nothing would be good enough. Because people would say, nah, that's some sort of illusion. That's that because you're so ingrained in the illusion, in the dream that you believe your body is real. You believe that, like you said, that stake is real, that your pencil, that what your college degree, everything that you're experiencing is real because you can feel it, see it and touch it and taste it. Right? But that's part of the illusion. That's part of what you immersed yourself in. So then what's the point of coming here, Alex? I'll you tell you, it's simply to rediscover who you are. You didn't come here to learn anything when I showed you who I am. God. Right. What does God need to learn? Nothing. So what do I need to learn here in the illusion? Nothing. What I came here to do is rediscover who I am.

[Alex Ferrari]

And by doing that, you're going to.

[Jason Janis]

Learn a few things. And I've learned a lot of things through the way, you know, of this experience. It's like a hamster on a wheel. You're on a cosmic wheel in the universe. Right? What does that wheel Do. It goes nowhere. You're on a journey to nowhere. There's nowhere for you to go, period. You're at home. You're in a deep sleep, right? So what do you need to learn? Nothing. It's simply a journey of rediscovery. I am the universe pretending to be Jason Janis. That's it. And I've just rediscovered that, all right? And I had a profound experience on October 3rd that proved that. We can get into it later. But I am simply rediscovering who I am. And I've done that. And that's the whole purpose of this. That's why when Jesus said to the young king, sell all your stuff, Give all your money away. Come, follow me. I'll show you. Jesus led by example, right? He showed you what he was doing and how to do it. But even then, they didn't want to listen. Even with the miracles he was doing, which he, by the way, did far less miracles than the Bible explains, but miracles nonetheless. People began to project themselves onto him, and that frustrated him because they're not getting it right.

[Alex Ferrari]

He didn't come to start a religion.

[Jason Janis]

No, he didn't come to start any religion. He came to wake you up. Look, anything I can do, you can do. And more. Wake up is what he was saying. Wake up, Wake up.

[Alex Ferrari]

He's handing out blue pills everywhere.

[Jason Janis]

He's handing out the blue. It's like when you have a nightmare and you wake up in the bed and you go, oh, it's just a dream. You haven't woken up from the dream yet. That's called death, and it's called an awakening. And why are you all terrified to awaken? There's two forms of awakening, and I was just talking to this, to someone last night. Awakening is what I am in now. I went through my ascension in 2023, which was brutally painful, brutal, but now I'm in the awakening. And that is simply the death of the ego. Loss of motivation, loss of caring about anything in this world anymore. I have no love of this world. I don't care about wealth. I mean, any of that. What is that? That's the death of the ego. So my ego is just crushed. He's there, but it's. The death of the ego is what the awakening is. But when you truly awaken, that means you die or you transition home. And that's where people are terrified, all right? Because you will stand before your Father and you will be shown your life review. Okay? And I.

[Alex Ferrari]

Which you didn't have.

[Jason Janis]

I did not have No, I did not have in mind. But you and I've just. From everybody, they've had their life review, so I. And what they're.

[Alex Ferrari]

The life review is not a judgment.

[Jason Janis]

It's not. There is no judgment. I need you all to understand this right now. There is no judgment. There is no hell. There are no demons. There is nothing. This is a dream. It's an illusion. It's what you asked your father to experience in this dream in this 3D world.

[Alex Ferrari]

So let's go back to that. When you say you chose this, are you talking about the soul blueprint?

[Jason Janis]

Correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

You're talking about the soul contract.

[Jason Janis]

Right. And that contract isn't going to be completed in one lifetime. Okay? I've died over 3200 times. Okay? Most of you have died between anywhere between 600 to 800 times. There might be some of you out there with a little more experience at 1200, but I had a profound out of body experience. The night Devar Hamlin died on the football field, I had a profound out of body experience. And I'll tell you this real quick. It's like as soon as I saw him make the hit and walk, I saw him drop dead.

[Alex Ferrari]

He came back.

[Jason Janis]

He came back, right? He had a near. He won't talk about it yet. But. But I. All of a sudden, I just leaned my head back and I went. And then all of a sudden, I was gone. I was in another realm, another dimension. It was like Star Wars. There was a sun here and a sun here, and the ocean was over here. And there was a light being walking towards me on this beautiful beach. And there was a presence that I could not see, but I could feel. I'm feeling the love of home and peace and all of this. And. And I'm like, who are you? And it's telepathic, of course, because there's no body. And I'm like, I'm Jeffrey. I've always been with you. And I'm like, jeffrey. I said, that's the Toys R Us giraffe man. I said, I can't call you Jeffrey. How about John? And then I ended up calling him Jeffrey. And I'm like, so he's your spirit guide? My spirit guide. And this being is getting closer to me, but I recognize that being.

[Alex Ferrari]

You recognize the energy problem?

[Jason Janis]

Yes, the energy. Because it was a light being. And I'm like, jeffrey, how many times have I been here? How many times have I died? And the number was instant, over 3200. And I'm like, I've died over 3200 times. And he goes, yes, you're ancient. And then I was pulled back into my body on the couch. And now I wake up and the football field is all dark. Nobody's in the stands, it's dark and just a few commentators. So from the time I saw his hit and him take two steps and drop, then I came back and everything was dark. So I was gone for quite a while. In this experience, having this experience, I'm like, what the hell does ancient mean? Yeah, we're eternal, right? But what does ancient mean? And I'm like, 3200 times. Am I that pathetic? I'm like, can't get it right. Wow. And that night, I remember saying this. I said, who am I, Father? Why do you. What am I?

[Alex Ferrari]

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[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Jason Janis]

Right? And then the next day, wake up. And my YouTube algorithm was lone wolf, Sigma male, and the chosen one. You're a chosen one. And I'm like, chosen one. And it resonates. I could just feel this energy burst out like, like. And I started doing research on that and I was in a sharing group and I was explaining my new experience. And this, I think his name was David Suchi. I don't know if you've ever heard of him. He's been researching near death experiences for like 15 or 20 years. He's done like thousands of them, written five or six books. And he raised his hand, he goes, wow, that's amazing. I said, first of all, that experience was profound. But you being a chosen One, he says, is very real. And he says, do you realize you've been walking this Earth for over 30,000 years, helping humanity? And he says, God has come to you to choose to have these experiences because you're a light seed. You're a lightworker, our starseed, a light worker. And he says, you've been walking this Earth for 30,000 years, helping humanity evolve. And I was like, in it. I felt it, right? I felt that energy surging through me and I was like, that all made sense now, why I've had all these lives and all of these what I would call hard lives, you know, especially this one with the brutality that I've faced my whole life. And I said, wow. And I said, but you have to realize no one here is special. Jesus wasn't special. Nobody is special. We're all one with the Father. Okay, so there's no speciality.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's just we're just a couple. Maybe whoever's. I agree with you. It's just like some people might be a little bit farther along on the journey.

[Jason Janis]

That's it, right? So you're looking at somebody as, you know, going into grade school to somebody as a PhD. PhD. That's the only difference. Other than that you're no different. You're just for. Jesus was, well, clearly further along on his journey. And that's why he was chosen for his job. And that's why Father has come to me and others. You know him in the Bible as the 144,000, okay? Were the starseeds the chosen ones to come and help humanity evolve, to get out of the darkness, to spread our love and our light. And it all made sense. My entire life made sense now because I've been a deep, empathetic person since I was a little boy. I loved so deeply in every ding, every bad word, every hit. It hit hard, brutally hard. And I felt it, right? And I was like, nobody loves me. Nobody cares. Clearly God doesn't care anymore, right? That's why I'm being beaten. Nobody loves me. It all. In that moment, everything came whoop. And my teachings just took off in that manner where I just began to teach more isolated things other than my near death experience. People need to know who they are. People need to know that you're in a matrix, a dream, that you can change the contract, you can here in the physical change your soul contract. But it's got to be done a certain way. You can't just say, listen, pal, I'm not liking this anymore, so we're going to do this, this and this. That's not going to work well.

[Alex Ferrari]

And you're also talking about 3200 times. That means obviously goes very much against what the, the church and the Bible say about reincarnation.

[Jason Janis]

Absolutely.

[Alex Ferrari]

Which never made any sense.

[Jason Janis]

No, no.

[Alex Ferrari]

I'm like, I only get this one time, right?

[Jason Janis]

That's it. And then I'm screwed.

[Alex Ferrari]

And these are my. These are the circumstances of the one time, right? I can live as a male or female, rich or poor, abused or loved, like that's it. The luck of the draw, right? It made no sense.

[Jason Janis]

And then I'm gonna rot in the dirt until some guy's gonna stand up in the sky and then decide who will really come home. And the rest will then truly suffer. Hell on earth. I was like, what are you talking about?

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, any parent understands that that's not realistic because you would never do that to a child. Like your own children, no matter what.

[Jason Janis]

They do, you will love them unconditionally.

[Alex Ferrari]

You might not be happy with them, but you will love them. Because that's what a parent is. So I always said that to myself. I was like, well, if God is our parent and he loves us and we use he is a lack of.

[Jason Janis]

A better word, correct?

[Alex Ferrari]

But if he loves us, then that's why hell never made sense to me when I was in first grade. They introduced me to hell. I was terrified.

[Jason Janis]

We all were.

[Alex Ferrari]

Terror if I went to Catholic school.

[Jason Janis]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

Terrified with the nun and the priests and the whole thing and. And the Catholic calisthenics.

[Jason Janis]

You know.

[Alex Ferrari]

Up, sit, kneel. Up, Sit, kneel, sit up. Neil.

[Jason Janis]

So you mean to tell me God has an ego, right? We got to stoke God's ego. Is that what you're telling me?

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, that was the thing too, Right. And that.

[Jason Janis]

And that's what people don't understand. It's like, why do I need to go to church to worship? I need to worship God. So you're telling me God has an ego, and then they stop dead in their tracks. Right?

[Alex Ferrari]

Oh, no. How about the. Well, just the Ten Commandments, Right. You shall have no other God besides me, which I find fairly egotistical in itself. The Old Testament. God is very insecure.

[Jason Janis]

Oh, yeah. And very brutal.

[Alex Ferrari]

Very vengeful.

[Jason Janis]

Oh, very.

[Alex Ferrari]

He loves playing games. He's like, give away or I'll kill your son is Abraham. Was it like, I'll kill your son, or like. And they thought, I'm just joshing. I won't kill him. I was just testing you in that way. It's like, wow, he's got a dark sense of humor.

[Jason Janis]

Right. And he has. He does have a very good sense of humor.

[Alex Ferrari]

I've had this conversation on the show before. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. Where it's the Old Testament versus the New Testament now. Those gods, very different.

[Jason Janis]

True.

[Alex Ferrari]

And then Jesus doesn't follow Jehovah. No, he doesn't follow that God.

[Jason Janis]

No.

[Alex Ferrari]

He never. To my understanding. And please correct me wrong, I don't think he ever said Jehovah in the New Testament.

[Jason Janis]

Never.

[Alex Ferrari]

Never once.

[Jason Janis]

Nope.

[Alex Ferrari]

Because they're two different books from two different worlds.

[Jason Janis]

Correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

They just kind of put together because we. Like, this is thin. We need to fill it up. Get that Torah over here. Let's bring it in here.

[Jason Janis]

And that's exactly where that came from.

[Alex Ferrari]

Exactly. So it's very different because in the Torah, there's no hell.

[Jason Janis]

Correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

There is no hell that doesn't exist in the Jewish religion. So hell was a construct of a control. It was a control mechanism.

[Jason Janis]

Correct. You know where it came from?

[Alex Ferrari]

Yes, of course. Well, Jesus said it was about the lake, and.

[Jason Janis]

The Catholic Church took it from the fires of Gehenna, which was the eternal garbage dump that was burning outside Jerusalem for centuries. Right. And where they would take child sacrifices and then throw the bodies onto the fire. When Jesus saw it, he says, how would you like it if you burned for eternity, right then and there.

[Alex Ferrari]

We like that. Let's take that in.

[Jason Janis]

Instead of an eternal garbage dump, what did they create?

[Alex Ferrari]

An eternal hell.

[Jason Janis]

An eternal hell. A lake of fire, of torture.

[Alex Ferrari]

And I'm like, we need someone to. We need a main character in this part of the. The story. How can we find. Wasn't there an angel or something in this other book that someone was talking about?

[Jason Janis]

And it's like the whole. I will tell you where this came from. And this is great. Where the fear concept came from. When we took on consciousness, when we decided all that is Father, there is nothing else. God is. There is nothing else, period, end of subject. That's put down right now. But all that is already knew everything. Stubbing your toe would hurt. Giving birth would hurt, right? Getting burned would hurt. But that wasn't good enough for all that is all that is wanted to experience what all that is already knows. Okay, so how can all that is experience this? He created us, right? So we could be his tools to experience what all that is already knows. So we were created in his image. We are Father. We are still one with the Father, but yet we are all individuals in the same aspect. It's a hard concept to understand, but follow me, right? So in that moment when we decided, we don't have to come here, we don't have to take on this, okay? Only the. The bravest of us souls choose to come here because it is brutally difficult. It is beyond hard. It's the hardest place in the universe to come to. So when we decided to take on this role, we took on consciousness. Consciousness is duality. So when you hear somebody speak of duality, that's consciousness which we're experiencing right now. That is where in that moment that we took that on, we created three Fear, guilt, and the ego. We fear we have abandoned God, or you know it in the Bible as we were kicked out of the Garden of Eden, of course, okay, there is your fear. That's where it came from. We abandoned Father. We threw ourselves into the universe so deep. And we built up a wall around ourselves. And now the ego, which is every voice inside your head, is now going hell bent on killing not only God, but you. That's where that came from. And the church built on that fear. And us saps fell into that trap of believing that somehow an angel could fall and create, become the leader of the lake of Fire. It's insanity. It really is.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's not only insanity, it just doesn't. It just. There's so many holes in this plot.

[Jason Janis]

It is, it's riddled with holes. Swiss cheese.

[Alex Ferrari]

I mean it's like. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show. I come from the story world and you know, filmmaking world, so I've studied story ad nauseam and you just look at the story just like, my God, this doesn't. These characters don't make sense. The narratives don't make sense. They kind of contradict themselves all the time, right? And then you've got these near death experiencers that come in and they just start saying, oh no, everything's love, everything's God, everything's this, everything's that. And the fear based stuff is the thing that really irritates me. Like, you know, you're born. I'm just talking, I was just thinking that you're born with original sin because you can't be born perfect. You have to be. You got to bring Some baggage in. But I as the church can clear you of that if you don't get baptized.

[Jason Janis]

Sorry, pal, you're gonna burn.

[Alex Ferrari]

Right? So when my kid. When my kids were born.

[Jason Janis]

What a joke.

[Alex Ferrari]

When my kids were born, you know, we didn't. We're not Catholic, so we didn't get them baptized. And my parents are like, so what do you mind you not religious? I mean, they haven't gone to church in 30 years, but we're raised Catholic, right? And they. And they're like, so you thinking of, you know, getting a baptized. I'm like, are you out of your mind?

[Jason Janis]

Right, Good for you.

[Alex Ferrari]

This is years ago when they were first born. And I'm like, no. Why? She's like, well, you know, just in case the best line, like, you know, cover your bases, you know what?

[Jason Janis]

Right?

[Alex Ferrari]

Throw a little water on, it'll be fine kind of thing. And it's just. Oh, my. It's. I was like, wow.

[Jason Janis]

My. My youngest, I have two children. My first was, you know, because back then I was 21 when I had her, so of course.

[Alex Ferrari]

So she's good.

[Jason Janis]

So she's good. Now, my youngest, who's just gone off to college, right? He's done. She was right, done because she was never baptized. Because my wife at the time hated Christianity. And she's like, all, you priest, you sick. You know? And I'm like, I'm fighting on, okay? Catholicism is all that it is. And we fought tooth and nail, but she never got bapt. And thank God, thank you, Father, that she never did, because I would be horrified because she doesn't need it. And to this day, she's like, I let her. This is her journey. This is her incarnation. She came here to work on herself. So I've told her some things. I said, this is your life. You live it how you want to live it. There's no right or wrong. There's no good or bad. You do what you need to do, but you're on a journey, okay? And I left that at that. If you have questions, come to me. I will be happy to answer them. But do not read the Bible. Do not fall for the church. It is a hoax. It's a lie. It will leave you in ruin. Okay? I said, go within. That's the only place you can go. What do you mean, dad? And I'm like, you will find out. You're 19. You have a while, a while to go. But just believe in yourself. Believe in who you are, because that's the important thing now that you've gone.

[Alex Ferrari]

Through this experience and it's fairly recent, only like the last four or five years.

[Jason Janis]

Five years. I died somewhere in, like I say, April 2, because it was when I went in. So again, time, I don't know. Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

So it hasn't been a long time. So since. Since you've gone through this process and you went to the other side and spoke to Father and. And felt Yeshua and the whole ball of wax, what's the one truth that you would like to share with people about what you discovered in your journeys?

[Jason Janis]

That. And I will be blunt, and I've said it twice now, that I am God. I merged with that light. I became the light. I became one with everything.

[Alex Ferrari]

And that everybody else has.

[Jason Janis]

And everybody else that has died. And I'm talking, when I mean one with everything, I'm talking in the universe, not just every human being on Earth, but everything, everything that has ever created or has not been created, I have one with.

[Alex Ferrari]

The one thing that I hear again and again is this knowing and this instant tapping into. I like to call it the spiritual cloud, where you automatically. It's kind of like the Internet, but like on steroids, because you have all.

[Jason Janis]

Information, it's given to you instantly, Instantly, instantly.

[Alex Ferrari]

So you're like, what's quantum physics? Oh, okay, got it.

[Jason Janis]

And it was all there.

[Alex Ferrari]

I mean, it's all there, but you can't bring it back.

[Jason Janis]

No, no.

[Alex Ferrari]

Because this can't handle it.

[Jason Janis]

Correct. Right. Because you have to understand that your mind is at home with Father. This is your brain. This runs the CPU of the suit. Okay? This is a simply a suit. There's nothing inside this. Your soul is wrapped around it like a glove. Okay? And that's what controls your body. All right? Your mind is at home. You are. Everybody on this planet is still at home. You've just put yourself into a deep sleep. Okay? And what happens when you sleep? You dream. You took on consciousness. Now you are all of a sudden aware as I'm naked. You know, that's the whole Bible thing. So you took on this reality, this avatar, and now you became fearful of it. You became hateful of it. Right? Because you left. Or you think, as you've been taught in life, that you left Father, that you are unworthy of being with him and his love. And when I merged with that light, love him, and absorbed into it and became the light, I became that love. That I am one with the Father, that I am God. Each and every one of you are God. Okay? You've just forgotten who you are.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's like the Hindu concept of Maya.

[Jason Janis]

Correct. The dream or the aborigine, the great dream. Correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's what we're in. This.

[Jason Janis]

That's it. That's all you're doing, is dreaming. Nothing that you are seeing here that you are perceiving. See, these aren't eyes. These are lenses. So what you are dreaming. If you've seen the movie Avatar, this is the best way to describe it. Remember when he saw his avatar and he laid down in bed for the first time and you saw that ball of electricity go through the. Right. That is exactly what is taking place.

[Alex Ferrari]

Ooh, that's good. I never thought about that.

[Jason Janis]

Okay, so you're dreaming now. Out of this dream, you're being downloaded. What you're dreaming. Right. Your lenses that you call eyes are projecting out what you are dreaming about. Thus, your thoughts create your reality. So what you are seeing is you. This is your envisioning of who I am. What you need me to be is what you're looking at right now, because that is what you are dreaming. So what you're seeing, sitting across from you is your perception of how you see me in your dream. That's exactly what is taking place.

[Alex Ferrari]

So in other words, Jake Scully as a human.

[Jason Janis]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

Is in this analogy, who you truly are.

[Jason Janis]

Correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

That is the soul. That is. That is. That is. You're on the other side.

[Jason Janis]

Yep.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's. You're in. You're in the real world.

[Jason Janis]

Correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

Then he lies down in the machine and he puts on the thing, and then he. And he sees the avatar that he's going to go into.

[Jason Janis]

Correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

Very similar to us when we were looking at our soul print blueprint. When I have James Cameron on the show. We're going to have this conversation. I'm going to call Jim up next week. Jim, if you're listening. Anytime, sir.

[Jason Janis]

Invite me while you're at. I'd love to be here.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, I'm sure a few people would love to be in the room for that conversation. But he goes in and then when he opens his eyes, he is now in the avatar suit. While his. While he's in a deep meditative sleep, if you will, in this. Actually, in this whole case and everything.

[Jason Janis]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

While he's sleeping, and then he's off in an adventure. And anything that happens to that avatar body doesn't affect the guy who's sitting down. Lying down and sleeping.

[Jason Janis]

Now you're seeing it.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's a video game.

[Jason Janis]

Correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

It's a. You're. And a video game is a very crude analogy of that.

[Jason Janis]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

Where we are the soul.

[Jason Janis]

Correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

And you're playing Mario Brothers and Mario is jumping, you know, things and.

[Jason Janis]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

And whatever happens to him doesn't affect you. You might feel it. You might feel the pain of why did I die?

[Jason Janis]

Body feels the pain. You don't.

[Alex Ferrari]

No, no. But the soul, emotionally.

[Jason Janis]

Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

Emotionally.

[Jason Janis]

Correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

Emotionally, you'd be like, oh, why did that happen? Oh, why did that. We should make a left. Oh, I need to do that. So that's the analogy of the soul and. And the illusion.

[Jason Janis]

Correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

But the thing is the illusion, I have to imagine that Mario really, really believes that he is in a place with mushrooms and a giant monkey throwing barrels at him. When you're in it, you have to believe it or else what's the point?

[Jason Janis]

Right? I mean, and that's the whole point of forgetting is because. Would you follow through with what you were about to experience? Hell no. No, no.

[Alex Ferrari]

If I remember if with Avatar, like when you comes out into the avatar body. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

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[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show. He can't walk. He has to learn how to walk again.

[Jason Janis]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

He has to learn how to acclimate himself. Now, what he's able to do moves very quickly for story purposes.

[Jason Janis]

Correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

But when we come in, we come in as a defenseless little thing.

[Jason Janis]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

And we have to relearn everything. Everything.

[Jason Janis]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

And then the family we are, we choose to come in, which we all have soul contracts with that soul family. They're there. Like, we're going to go ahead of you when you come. We'll walk, we'll protect you, we'll get you where. Or we'll teach you the lessons that you want us to teach you.

[Jason Janis]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

Whether that be trauma or whether that be love or a combination of both. You know, like, I really want to. I want to be Buddhist in this life. Great. You're going to be born. I'll be Buddhist, too. We'll be born in China or actually Tibet. Let's do Tibet. It's a little safer.

[Jason Janis]

Sure, that'd be good. Right? Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

So you will be born to. We'll be Tibet. This. Tibetans this time. And we'll be Buddhist. Tibetan. So when you show up, we'll teach you Buddhism, and you can walk down that path in this journey and experience that.

[Jason Janis]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

Or you go, you know what? I want to discover it for myself.

[Jason Janis]

Great.

[Alex Ferrari]

We're going to be born Catholic then. And then you're going to be the black sheep of the family. You're going to go off on a journey yourself because that's the kind of path you want to walk. You know, it's when you start looking at it like that, it's.

[Jason Janis]

That's exactly what it is. So from, like you just said, you chose your parents. Right. But you also, and I need to make this very clear, you also chose your way out of the dream. Okay? You. So how you chose to exit it is perfectly acceptable. And however it is, whether it's being murdered, wearing, stabbed to death, burning in.

[Alex Ferrari]

A car, or dying in your sleep.

[Jason Janis]

Dying in your sleep doesn't matter. You wrote your way out of it. Okay.

[Alex Ferrari]

Now, do you. From my understanding, and after all the conversations I've had, when you're laying out your soul blueprint, from my understanding of a soul contract or soul blueprint, is that you lay down mile markers. I call them mile markers.

[Jason Janis]

Yes.

[Alex Ferrari]

These are things that are irrefutable. These are going to happen. That is, you really have no choice in the matter.

[Jason Janis]

You're going to reach them. You want to get marriage, you're going to have married, you're going to have.

[Alex Ferrari]

Kids, you're going to work in this field, you're going to work in this field, you're going to do this job, you're going to like, you know, oh, I got a job at Disney because I'm an animator. And you're going to, yeah, you're going to get there and then whatever.

[Jason Janis]

But how you get there, that's the thing, is your free will.

[Alex Ferrari]

Correct. So there's going to be these mile markers that you can kind of how you get there is completely up to you.

[Jason Janis]

But you will hit certain, but you'll end up there. No matter.

[Alex Ferrari]

You're being born in America in 2020. That was a choice.

[Jason Janis]

Correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

And there's nothing you could do about that.

[Jason Janis]

That's correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

The parents, you got nothing you could do about that. These are things that are in your path, how you get, how you deal with it and how you get to these other mile markers, the people you meet that your soulmate, your, your marriages, all that kind of stuff. These are mile markers. Now, from what I understand too, you let you set up exit. Exit points throughout the journey.

[Jason Janis]

Correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

That if at a certain point in life you're like, you know, things aren't going real well, I think I need a wake up call. Near death experience. Does that make sense?

[Jason Janis]

It does. Because. And without that experience of having that near death experience, what would have happened.

[Alex Ferrari]

If you didn't have it?

[Jason Janis]

I mean, I would be doing what I was doing now, which was a dead end job. Going nowhere, scraping the bottom of the barrel, hitting your head against the wall. Right. Basically taking my head and pounding it on the concrete all day, going nowhere. And that was like you were just saying it's an excellent example. Mile markers. By the time I hit mile marker, maybe D or E. Right. God said, if you don't get on the path that I need you on, this is what's going to happen. Right. We're going to nudge you. And that's exactly what happened.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, let me ask you this. I always teach when I talk to people that the universe, I use the word universe, God, whatever you want to call it, gives you a little whisper, then gives you a little tap on the shoulder, starts giving you a little nudge. And it just keeps getting a little bit stronger every time until the sledgehammer comes.

[Jason Janis]

Right.

[Alex Ferrari]

Because you're not listening.

[Jason Janis]

Correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

And near death experience is pretty much the biggest sledgehammer there is.

[Jason Janis]

It's. Yeah, it's. It's an explosion of truth.

[Alex Ferrari]

So were you before the near death experience? Were you feeling nudges that you were ignoring? Were you anything, anything that was gonna point you into direction? You was. In other words, was there, was there.

[Jason Janis]

A timeline from early on that, you know, even in high school, you know, my teachers would say, you know, when I'd write essays or have to speak in front of the class, they were like, wow, you know, you should become a teacher. You, you know, you had me engaged. You know, I was thoroughly enjoying you speaking. And I'm like, I have no desire to teach. Right. Even when I got into college. And my, my history professor was like, jason, would you please teach? You know, we'll take care of, you know, all your, we'll take care of the money. You know, you'll please teach. And I'm like, I have no desire, see, being a teacher. And, you know, then my mom asked me a question early on, in my 20s, like 23 or 25, and she was just sitting there and I was explaining things to her, and she goes, you need to be a teacher.

[Alex Ferrari]

So you were getting signals.

[Jason Janis]

I was getting signals. And I'm like, you know. And I was like, no. And they say you teach. You know, my mom is very uneducated. She doesn't even have a high school education. So she goes, but you explain things in such a way that I don't feel ignorant or stupid, that you could talk to anybody and you sense where they're at. That's the empath. And you can teach them in a very safe and secure manner. Right? And it's very comforting to those that, that may not know the truth, that feel ignorant asking that question, that I can come up to them and answer that question. So, yes, I was getting those nudges. And I kept, no, there's no way, no way, no way. And now if somebody said, jason, you know, you're going to be a tog, a teacher of God.

[Alex Ferrari]

A tog. I like that.

[Jason Janis]

You know, I would have said, you can go to. There's no way I'm going to, you know, be a preacher or this, that or that. And here I am after my near death experience. I knew exactly what I needed to do. And I found out this October 3rd from a divine spiritual experience that I am in alignment with my higher self, what I came here to do.

[Alex Ferrari]

Now, did you already discuss what happened to you or no?

[Jason Janis]

No.

[Alex Ferrari]

What happened to you October 3rd.

[Jason Janis]

So. Well, I have to back up too.

[Alex Ferrari]

And this is a few months ago from this.

[Jason Janis]

This is a few months ago, but let me back up so. Because then you'll fully understand it. I've had several meetings with angels or guides, as one does just right on an everyday thing. But I came out of sushi and I was trying to date, which was a bad idea. I wasn't ready yet. So we had come out of sushi and there was a guy, a bum, had a bag and a cane, and it was just in ratty clothes, just sitting at the end of my Jeep. And I was walking up there, and she was like, no, no, no, don't go talk to him. I said, no, no. And we walked up to him and he was like, hi, how are you? Just smiling at me. And all of a sudden I'm just feeling this energy. And I'm like. And I'm like, what is going on? And he goes, you love video games. And I'm like, this guy, you know what? Oh, look at the time. 12:12. There we go. I gotcha. And I'm like, something's going on. I'm feeling. And he goes, you know, I'm in Wisconsin to help, you know, my. A partner get a divorce. And he looked right at her because she was going through divorce, and I'm helping her to get a divorce. And she freaked out. Like, how does he know that? And you know, I'm headed towards Oconomowoc, where we were thinking of moving, and her face just went white. He goes, yeah, I'm here to help. And he's staring right at her to help her get a divorce. And she said, can I go sit in the Jeep? And she grabbed the keys and ran in there. Locked doors. And we were talking. He goes, you know, he's talking about certain things. And I'm like, what is going on? I'm feeling a real big tug here with energy. We're exchanging energy on a massive level. And I'm like. He goes, you know, it's really about the love. And he's just smiling at me. And he goes, you know, it's really about the love. And I'm trying to process what is going. What's taking place here. I can. Something's. Something's up, right? And then a third time, he put out his fist bump. And he goes, it's really about the love. And I. And I said, and I gave him a fist bump. And his hand was cold. Like, not temperature cold, but like, there's nothing in it like a dead body, right? And I'm like, and that's the second time that happened to me. And I'm like, yes, it is about the love. And I said, three years ago I had a near death experience and he sat up and he looked at me and he goes, I know you did. And I'm like, whoa, okay, what's going on? And I went to turn to look to see if she was okay and then I turned back and now he's standing in front of me and I'm like, but there was no noise. And I'm like, your name is Jason, right? And I'm like, okay, what's going on? And I'm like, oh my God. And I'm like, he goes, you're kind of scraping the bottom of the barrel. And I'm like, what else is new? I said, yeah. And he goes, you know I'm an alcoholic.

[Alex Ferrari]

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[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Jason Janis]

And I said, I'm sorry. And I said, I drank, you know, I drank quite a bit last month. 110. I said, you drank $110,000 worth of booze? And he said, you know where I could get a drink? And I said, right there. There's a bar, right? And he said, would you walk with me? And I said, sure. And I grabbed his bag and his cane and I gave it to him. Now, this is when he started walking in front of me.

[Alex Ferrari]

Me.

[Jason Janis]

And he said, would you be okay with that? I said, okay with what? I said, making 110,000 a year? I said, yeah. I said, I'm scraping the box. Yeah. And he says, no, a month? And I'm like, yeah, sure, why not? Yeah, that'd be good. Yeah, sure, right. He says, great. He said, let's walk with me again. And he said. And he's now walking in front of me. He said, would you be willing to relocate, Kate? And I'm like, God, sure.

[Alex Ferrari]

And where are you now? Where were you then?

[Jason Janis]

I was in Wisconsin.

[Alex Ferrari]

Wisconsin.

[Jason Janis]

Wisconsin, Right. Just a little bit outside Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

[Alex Ferrari]

Right.

[Jason Janis]

And I said, weather's great in the winter. Yeah. I lived my whole life there. So I. I know him very well. So I said, yeah, sure. He goes, great. He said. And he was humming. He said. He said. He turned around and he goes, how about Sacramento, California?

[Alex Ferrari]

The most affordable of the states.

[Jason Janis]

Right? And I'm like, so a person scraping the bottom of the barrel is really going to make it in California? And I'm like, sure. For that kind of money. So we're talking 1.3 million somewhere in there. Yeah, okay, sure. Okay, great.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's about 100,000 when you're done with the taxes in California.

[Jason Janis]

Right, Right. You know, with the added extra 4% that they're going to take out. For what? I don't know, but, you know. But sure, for California. Right? He's great. So now we're walking and we're talking, and he's like, jason, it was nice to see you. And we got it. I got him into the Texas Roadhouse, into the thing, and when we walked in, nobody was paying attention to us. Like, nobody would even look at us. Like, glitch in the Matrix, Right. So they're off, you know, and got him to the bar. And he says, jason, you'll hear from me again soon. I never told you my name. I'm like, what is going on? I can't put one In. I said, you know, thank you. I said, I hope you enjoy your stay in Wisconsin. And I was turning to walk out, and when I turned to walk out, I look over and there's nobody there. He's gone. All right, I'm going out. I kind of hightailed it to the Jeep and I'm like. And by this time, I'm physically exhausted. I'm like, wiped out.

[Alex Ferrari]

So when you say you're wiped out, that's the energy. Yeah, the energy. Your body can't.

[Jason Janis]

Couldn't take a higher process. A higher.

[Alex Ferrari]

Yeah, the capacity, right?

[Jason Janis]

So I'm feeling tired and I'm like, oh, my God. I said. She goes, who was that? Now this is the second time I had met this individual. The first time he looked different, okay? But this time he had the same square jaw, the same beard, but this time it was a dark red. And his hair was the same, exact same haircut, but red. And I got back to my house and I'm like, oh my God, I know who that was. That was Archangel Michael. I saw him less than a year ago, about six months ago in my workplace. Very, very, very, very early in the morning when I was only there. And kind of the same situation happened, not money wise this time, but different. And I was like, oh my God, right then. So what happened? In the end of 2024, I came home from work and this was the start of my transition. And where I'm living now in California. I walked in and my apartment was ransacked, but the door was locked from the deadbolt and my regular lock. And so I unlocked the door, all the lights are on. I look around, my computer chair is pulled out, turned around, facing towards.

[Alex Ferrari]

And this is in Sacramento?

[Jason Janis]

No, this was in Wisconsin. Right, so. And I. My couch is to shovel, all the pillows are thrown on the floor, my stuffed animal thrown down, blankets all over the place, light on, kitchen lights on. And all of a sudden I feel this weird energy, like, what is going on? But nothing was taken. My iPad was right there. Brand new iPad, Air 63 inch Plasma TV, brand new computer, right? Everything is here. My snake is there. And I'm like, what is going on? And I creeping down the hall and I turn on the light. My second bedroom, they had completely destroyed. The bed ripped off, all the covers, all the pillows, even the form, the blanket that hugs the. Everything was ripped off, thrown on the floor. I go into my room, my room is disheveled, bed torn apart. And I'm like, I couldn't figure out what was going on. So I'm calling a few people, a couple mediums. And they said, couple of mediums? Yeah, a couple mediums. And I'm just friends with them through ions. And they're like, jason, I have a couple.

[Alex Ferrari]

I understand, right?

[Jason Janis]

So. And they said, jason, something big is about to happen in your life. Changes are coming. And I'm like, so we're going to fast forward to now. This last July or July of this year. Somehow I lost my job, right? Could not find a job in the same field that I'd been working in my whole life. Everything was instantly denied. No callbacks. I was looking for places to stay. My rent shot up like way, way too much. Nobody got back to me.

[Alex Ferrari]

Now you're in Sacramento, right?

[Jason Janis]

And from that point I'm like, what am I going to do? And that's when that dawned on me that that was the non physical destroying my apartment, saying these are the changes that are happening. And they forced me out of my comfort zone and pushed me to Sacramento. So I got to Sacramento, didn't have a good experience. And I'm like. Because now I'm living in my car, I have no job, I have no place to live. I got kicked out of the truck stop in Sacramento. They wouldn't allow me. The police kicked me out. And I'm like, I need to. So I found a place in Lodi, and I was there for a couple months in Lodi, California. And I was just sleeping in my truck stop, right? And October 3rd rolled around and got up, went to the bathroom as like a normal thing. And then this person was standing in the lobby just staring at me again, nobody even paying attention to him or whatsoever. And he's looking at me and he just smiled at me. And I'm like, hi. You know, and then I went and did bathroom. And all of a sudden when I got into the bathroom, he was in the bathroom. But I just passed him in the lobby and I'm like, but people are walking by him, not even paying attention, don't even know he even exists, right? I went to the bathroom. Now he's at the same wash station and I'm washing my hands and he's like, hi, hi. And walked around. And then all of a sudden I got done washing my hands. He's gone. You would hear somebody leaving, but he was just gone. Then he was out in the lobby and I walked by him. I said, have a great day. And then I saw him walk in front of my Jeep and staring. We're locking eyes like you and I, right? He Got in his car, pulled next to me, and he said. We started talking about things, and he goes, you're Jason, right? I mean, like, he says, you're in alignment and you're powerful. You need to move now. And I'm like, who are you? He goes, I'm just like you. I said, no, you're not. I can feel you. Who are you? He said, jason, you put me here. And I'm like, I've been living in my car for two months. What are you talking? He says. I said, look around you. Look. And I said, that's all me. And I'm talking about things, Jason. You're teaching me nothing that I don't already know. I'm like, you're either a master or you're an angel. Who are you? He said, jason, you put me here. You need to move now. Somebody needs you. Move where? He said, you are in alignment and you are powerful. You need to move now. And he said, for the job interview. He said, and he's looking on my Jeep, and it's disheveled. He said, you need to get some new clothes. And he says, do not talk about your spirituality. Do not. What job? I've been denied jobs. I said, you guys won't let me have a job, and now all of a sudden, I need to pick up and move. Where? I knew where it was, back up to Sacramento, because that's where. Would you be willing to relocate? That's where. And that morning, I woke up, my phone wouldn't work. Phone was cut off. I couldn't make phone calls. I couldn't access the Internet. Right? Nothing. So that incident took about 40 minutes. And then he got in his car and drove away. And I'm like, when you hear that you're in alignment, that means you're in alignment with. Your soul's your highest version of yourself. Meaning you're in alignment with what you came here to do. Right? But, like. Like, who needs me? Where do I need to go? I mean, and then all of a sudden, I got this job. But did I talk about the spirituality? Nothing. Now I got this job. It's a worthless job. I mean, it's getting me by. Not even getting me by, because I'm living in. I bounce from crappy motel to crappy motel at the time, right? But I'm grateful because when I wake up, I do have a shower to take. I have a little mini fridge. I can have cold water, and I have a place to lay down. But is it a home yet? No.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back. After a word from our sponsor.

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[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the show.

[Jason Janis]

Sometimes you still need to be broken further in order to see the true version of yourself. And while I was in Lodi, right, I've been having these immense vivid or lucid dreams and they were showing me exactly the success, the wealth, the everything, right? But I can't remember it. And this has happened now four times. He's showing me that this is here. It's happening. It's like you walking. If you're walking continuously left, right, going around left your whole life, and then all of a sudden you decide, I'm tired of going left, I want to go right. Okay? So now you start walking, right? That version of yourself is still walking left. You have to understand that there's a version of you walking, right? There's a version of you now that is walking right? And there's a version that is still walking behind you. Those versions of all yourself is still taking place. You have a hundred different versions of yourself right now. Someone that is laying in a ditch, dirt poor, an addict, or someone that's barely scraping by. You have many versions of yourself.

[Alex Ferrari]

You're talking about timelines, right?

[Jason Janis]

In your timeline that you're in right now, there are hundred different versions of yourself, okay? So they were showing me the alignment of my soul's purpose, my higher self that I can't reach any higher. That is the ultimate level to be at, right? So sometimes. And I'm like, then why am I in this job? Why am I going through this? I went through my. And I'm on this spiritual path now. Why are you putting me back into something that's dead, that doesn't exist? Because the past doesn't exist. Everything in the world that is happening or in your life is now. Everything is now, okay? There is nothing two minutes ago or five hours from now. It doesn't exist. Everything's happening now. So why am I in this? Why did you put me in this situation? And then this image was given to me. It's like when you see an archer pulling back a bow, right? To pull that arrow back. But sometimes you reach into the past, your old life before that. Arrows let go into what is coming.

[Alex Ferrari]

And also, you can actually turn that the other way.

[Jason Janis]

Correct?

[Alex Ferrari]

And you gotta go down, right? Until.

[Jason Janis]

Right?

[Alex Ferrari]

So farther. The farther you go down, the farther you're gonna go.

[Jason Janis]

That's correct.

[Alex Ferrari]

When that arrow goes right.

[Jason Janis]

And that is what is taking place in my life right now. So it may seem like, well, he's just homeless. He's a bum. He's this, he's that. Oh, no, no. I'm being prepared for and molded for what is coming. And we, as this species is very impatient. It wants now. It wants everything now. Instant gratification, right? If I want an apple, I want an apple now. If I want this, I'm going to go right? It wants that. And sometimes, you know, it's divine timing. It's all divine timing.

[Alex Ferrari]

So what's really interesting is you're saying that everybody. Everybody wants things now. Now. Now, there's a series that's on our streaming platform called Rota Dharma, where our yogi takes a group of people into the Himalayas on a motorcycle ride. It's a wonderful series. And, you know, a lot of these people come from the. From the west, and they are in the Himalayas, and they're like. And they're basically expecting this to be kind of like this cool little retreat. And we're going, you know, do Yoga in the Himalayas. And I can Instagram this shot and all this kind of stuff. And the yogi's like, no, we are here to transcend. Yes, that was what he said. It was so, so profound. You are here to transcend and this is not an easy path. And he basically started showing the mirror to everybody. And that's not a fun thing. But most people want enlightenment like they want fast food, right? But enlightenment, self realization. Awakening from the dream takes time and dedication. Dedication, yes. And struggle. And it's not. And there's pain, all of it. It's again, back to the Matrix. When Neo wakes up from the Matrix and is brought into the real world. It is one of the most painful things. You know, the big, the tubes and he's in the thing and then he's flushed down a toilet essentially and all this. And you know, it's all of the, his muscles are atrophied, all this kind of stuff. Because that's a great analogy of what it's like to wake up. It's going to be painful, right.

[Jason Janis]

Everybody thinks that having this near death experience is beautiful and wonderful until. Right until you. But not only that, when that happens, but then, you know, I went two years or three years later, I went through my ascension process into the 5D. That was, was brutally painful. I lost 75 pounds. I was sick, I quit eating, I was dizzy, I fell out of the shower. I lost my job again.

[Alex Ferrari]

There's a pattern here.

[Jason Janis]

Yeah, right. Because what they're doing is they're building me to my highest self. Right. Because this is the path that has to be taken. It's not easy.

[Alex Ferrari]

Well, you're building your capacity.

[Jason Janis]

Correct. So I transitioned from the carbon based body into the crystalline body. So what was taking place is high, higher energy light is entering my body. My DNA was rewritten on a cellular level, transitioning from a carbon into a silica based. Do you understand how painful that is? I was in excruciating pain. And that night was the first night I controlled healing my body just like Jesus did. I was in the middle of my ascension and I'm telling you all, it was brutally painful. Brutally painful. When I went through this and my back pain was on an unimaginable level. I mean, I was beginning to sob unconditionally. It hurt so bad, I could not lay on my side on my back. I would have to turn every second to try and find comfort and I couldn't. I got up and started walking and I'm just in utter pain, just sobbing. During this Ascension. And then I laid back down in a fetal position, but my back was straight and I began to breathe. I don't know how I began to do this, but I just began to breathe and control my breath. And then I said, I and the Father are one. And then I switched over to mind and body are one. Right, mind. And this went on for a while. And all of a sudden, I became juiced. I was vibrating at such a high frequency, like every hair was standing up and I could literally hear every heartbeat. And then all of a sudden, a ring of energy from the top of my crown chakra came down to the middle of my neck or right between my shoulder blades. And then it just stopped vibrating. And I said, make it go away in my mind. And it went down my spine and it crushed the pain in my lower back. And it went from a thousand, probably down to a 20. And another ring came down and stopped right there. And I said, make it go away. And this is not out loud. And I'm just hearing my heartbeat and I'm feeling just me vibrating at such a high level. And it went down and it crushed the pain in my back. That is exactly how Jesus healed. Everybody could see. I could see the pain in my back. And I directed that healing energy to my lower back and it healed my back, right? And then I, because it was in so much pain and I hadn't slept in a while, I passed out. And I was like, anything I can do, you can do. And more came into my mind. I did exactly what Jesus did two millennia ago, but I healed myself. And. And when, I will say, this is when you choose your parents, right? You create the body. The ego does. Okay, and how does the body. How's the body created, right? So I just tell you, I juiced up and I raised my energy, right? You vibrate. We vibrate so high. Like I told you in my near death experience, I was juiced. That was the same energy I was feeling that I was controlling. I was controlling my powers. We vibrate so high that when we begin to create our bodies, we lower our energy to such a low vibration that it begins to form physical mass. You begin to create your body. So when you get mom and dad to mate, that's it. The ego then begins to take over the body. And you know it as an infant. That is how a body is formed. We lower our energy vibration so low that it begins to form physical mass. And here we are, the ego. You look exactly the way you look because that's the way your ego wants you to look. Same with me. That's how a baby or a fetus is formed. You lower your vibration and now you are controlling how you look.

[Alex Ferrari]

And then the trick is to raise your vibration while still staying in the body.

[Jason Janis]

There you go.

[Alex Ferrari]

Which is what the masters do.

[Jason Janis]

That's what the masters do. And that is where I am headed.

[Alex Ferrari]

That's where all heading. Eventually it could be all of us.

[Jason Janis]

All of us.

[Alex Ferrari]

All of us.

[Jason Janis]

But you're all on your own individual path, right?

[Alex Ferrari]

And timeline.

[Jason Janis]

And timeline. So you are all exactly where you need to be. So when people are watching this, I want you to understand that don't feel like, well, Jason's better than me. No, I'm not better than anybody here. I'm just further along on my journey than you are. That's it. Anything that I can do, you can do as well.

[Alex Ferrari]

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Alex Ferrari]

And now back to the.

[Jason Janis]

And I'm telling you this, all of you, go within. Do not seek anything outside yourself. You will find pain, misery and death. Go within because that is where you are. That is where everything is that God gave you on this journey. You will find nothing outside yourself. It is all an illusion and a dream.

[Alex Ferrari]

Jason, this has been a fascinating conversation, brother. Where can people find out more about you in the world you're doing in the world?

[Jason Janis]

They can find me. I have my website, loveandlightjason.com so you can find me there for one on ones or seminars or public speaking events. I'm more than happy to oblige you there. And of course my YouTube channel, Love and Light. Jason, that's awesome, my friend.

[Alex Ferrari]

Do you have any final words or messages for the audience?

[Jason Janis]

I will always leave you with this. I love you all so very much. You are all beautiful, you are all perfect and you are all divine. And you are all right where you need to be. And I ask you to just love one another as I love you. You're all perfect.

[Alex Ferrari]

Jason, it has been a pleasure, my friend. Thank you so much for sharing all your stories, all your experiences and hopefully it will help somebody on their path who's watching. And I appreciate you and everything you're doing to awaken this planet, my friend. So thank you.

[Jason Janis]

Absolutely. Again, thank you, Alex, for having me. It's been an honor and a privilege here. It was. It was a beautiful conversation.

[Alex Ferrari]

Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today. If you feel called to explore this conversation further, you'll find the show notes for this episode at next levelsoul.com forward/654 and if your soul is craving an even deeper journey, step into Next Level Soul tv, our streaming sanctuary for spiritual films, documentary, original shows, guided meditations, channeling sessions, audiobooks and transformative teachings. It's a space created to support your awakening, your healing and your return to the truth of who you really are. Begin your journey at Next LevelSoul TV until next time. Keep expanding, keep seeking and keep walking your path towards the next level of your soul.

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