Next Level Soul Podcast with Alex Ferrari

Episode 654: He Met GOD — HIS Religion Had NOTHING To Do With It (EMOTIONAL NDE) with Jason Janis

Date: January 6, 2026
Guest: Jason Janas
Host: Alex Ferrari

Episode Overview

This powerful episode dives into the near-death experience (NDE) of Jason Janas, who describes meeting God in a way that transcends any religious dogma. Through a candid and emotional conversation, Jason and Alex explore themes of suffering, religious trauma, unconditional love, self-realization, and the ultimate illusion of separation. The episode is as much a journey into Jason’s life story as it is a deconstruction of conventional religion and an invitation to awaken to a deeper spiritual truth within.

Main Themes & Purpose

• Healing from trauma and abuse
• Religious upbringing vs. spiritual awakening
• The experience, insight, and after-effects of an NDE
• Challenging traditional religious concepts (heaven, hell, judgment)
• Oneness, unconditional love, and the illusion of separation
• Soul contracts, reincarnation, and the “chosen ones”
• Living a life of purpose and alignment with higher self
• Practical wisdom for listeners on awakening and self-love

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Jason’s Early Life and Spiritual Background

• Jason describes a difficult upbringing marked by abuse, instability, and a loss of faith instilled by his grandparents’ Catholic beliefs.
• “I grew up as just a Catholic kid… But I didn’t realize that I was becoming more and more angry. Right. God clearly doesn’t love me. Clearly.” (05:19)
• Explores universal themes of feeling unloved by God during trauma and how religious teachings sometimes deepen that wound.

2. Turning Point: The NDE (Near-Death Experience)

• Jason takes listeners through the visceral and frightening experience of falling gravely ill, coughing up blood, and ultimately dying of acute respiratory failure and hypoxia.
• The NDE began in the hospital ICU, triggered by a deep, heartfelt plea to God after decades of spiritual estrangement:
  • “I called out to God and I said, ‘Please don’t let me die. Please don’t let me die. I had no business talking to him, you know, with the things I have done in my life. I knew I was unworthy of him.’” (17:19)
• He describes witnessing the hospital and the world from above, encountering an all-pervading love, and the presence of God and Yeshua (Jesus).
  • “Pain is gone. I was young again. I was juiced. I was vibrating at such a high frequency, in constant, this love and this light. And I knew that was God.” (20:19)
• “For the first time in my life, I was loved unconditionally. There was no ifs, ands, or buts, nothing. I was at peace, utter peace.” (20:26)

3. Profound Spiritual Insights from the NDE

• The experience revealed:
  • Oneness with God and all existence (“I became the light. I was the light. That means I became God. I am God.” 25:37)
  • There is no heaven, no hell, no judgment, and no inherent good or bad.
  • All teachings about eternal damnation or worthlessness were false.

4. Aftereffects and Life Mission

• Jason felt compelled to share his experience and start teaching others:
  • “I have a mission. I have to let the world know that they have been duped, lied to, horrifically.” (28:19)
• He talks about anger towards the Church for the “lie” and contrasts the beauty of the NDE with religious dogma.
• Notable quote: “You picked the wrong person… No, you. And this is when I heard my father speak to me… ‘Why not? You are my son.’” (28:16–28:38)

5. Deconstructing Religious Narratives

• Both Alex and Jason discuss how religious institutions have created the concepts of sin, judgment, hell, and separation for control.
• “No one leaves Christianity because of Christ’s teachings.” (31:19 – Alex Ferrari)
• Exploration of how different cultures and individuals construct their own NDE environments (“You construct your own experience to kind of ease you in.” 34:19–35:35).

6. Soul Contracts, Reincarnation, and Being “Chosen”

• Jason recounts further spiritual experiences:
  • Encounters with spirit guides.
  • Learning he’s lived over 3,200 lifetimes (“Most of you have died between anywhere between 600 to 800 times.” 60:14)
  • Being told by a researcher, “You’ve been walking this Earth for over 30,000 years, helping humanity.” (65:00)
• Emphasizes: nobody is inherently special — we are all one with Father; some are just further along the journey.

7. Practical Wisdom and Integration

• Going Within: “Do not seek anything outside yourself. You will find pain, misery and death. Go within because that is where you are.”
• Self-Forgiveness: “I forgave myself for everything. I knew I had done nothing wrong.”
• On life’s purpose: “You’re on a journey to nowhere. There’s nowhere for you to go, period. You’re at home. You’re in a deep sleep, right? So what do you need to learn? Nothing. It’s simply a journey of rediscovery.” (57:09)
• On “ego death” as awakening and ascension.
• On soul blueprints: “You lay down mile markers…irrefutable, these are going to happen—that is, you really have no choice in the matter…how you get there, that’s your free will.” (89:21–90:03)
• On reincarnation: “Which never made any sense. I only get one time? And then I’m screwed?” (68:16–68:21)

8. Awakening and the Matrix Analogy

• Extensive Matrix and Avatar analogies for soul, illusion, and awakening (50:22–85:27).
• “It’s a video game. We are the soul. And you’re playing Mario Brothers and Mario is jumping…” (85:02)
• “The only thing that’s real is the inner world…the outside world is fairly intoxicating. That’s the point of this.” (50:09–50:21)

9. Recent Experiences, Synchronicities, and Guidance

• Shares encounters with spiritual guides/angels in everyday life, being nudged into alignment and “broken further” to meet his soul’s purpose (94:18+).
• “Sometimes you still need to be broken further in order to see the true version of yourself.” (110:56)

Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• “God clearly doesn’t love me… I was being beaten and learning how to take care of things… I was really in survival mode.” — Jason (05:19)
• “In the life of a chosen one, a light bearer, God asks us for very difficult missions — because you’re the bringer of light into darkness.” — Jason (07:41)
• “I was up on the ceiling… The pain is gone. I was young again… I was in constant this love and this light. And I knew that was God.” — Jason (20:18)
• “For the first time in my life, I was loved unconditionally. There was no if, ands, or buts, nothing. I was at peace, at utter peace.” — Jason (20:26)
• “I became the light. I was the light. I became God. I am God.” — Jason (25:37)
• “You picked the wrong person… No, you. And [God] said: ‘Why not? You are my son.’” — Jason (28:16–28:38)
• “There is no heaven, there is no hell, there is no good, there is no bad, there is no right, there is no wrong. Everything I was taught my entire life was a lie.” — Jason (24:04)
• “No one leaves Christianity because of Christ’s teachings.” — Alex (31:19)
• “Anything I can do, you can do. And more. Wake up is what he was saying. Wake up, Wake up.” — Jason (58:25)
• “Do not seek anything outside yourself. You will find pain, misery and death. Go within because that is where you are. That is where everything is that God gave you on this journey.” — Jason (122:26)

Important Timestamps

• [04:23] Jason recounts early life and religious upbringing
• [10:13] NDE begins; Jason describes his medical crisis and experience of dying
• [17:18] Jason pleads with God, beginning of out-of-body NDE
• [20:18] Full NDE vision, unconditional love, Yeshua, and revelation
• [28:19] Post-NDE mission and confrontation with religious teachings
• [31:19] Deconstruction of biblical history and context
• [34:19] NDEs as personal constructs depending on belief
• [41:00] Discussion of dogma and church’s construction of religious control
• [60:14] Soul contracts, number of lifetimes, and guidance from “Jeffrey”
• [89:21] Soul blueprint, choice, mile markers, and free will
• [110:56] The necessity of being “broken” and surrender in awakening
• [122:26] Jason’s final advice for awakening: go within

Notable Moments

• Deep empathy for those suffering religious trauma.
• Challenging and debunking of toxic religious beliefs (“original sin,” “hell,” etc.).
• Relatable analogies (The Matrix, Avatar) to communicate metaphysical ideas.
• Emotional description of forgiveness, self-acceptance, and self-realization post-NDE.
• Encounters with “angels,” spirit guides, and signs of alignment in daily life.
• Practical instruction to seekers: awakening isn’t instant, comfort isn’t guaranteed, and true transformation is an inner process, often marked by pain and release of old self.

Final Messages & Call to Action

• Jason’s closing message:
  “Go within. You are all beautiful, you are all perfect and you are all divine. And you are all right where you need to be. Just love one another as I love you. You’re all perfect.” (123:15)
• Alex’s summing up:
  The journey to awakening and alignment with your true self requires radical honesty, self-love, and a willingness to challenge inherited beliefs. You don’t need to seek outside—the light is and always has been within.

For More Information

• Jason’s website: loveandlightjason.com
• YouTube channel: Love and Light Jason

If you are seeking healing, deeper understanding, or freedom from old limiting beliefs, this episode offers both moving testimony and practical spiritual wisdom to remind you of your divine origin and the light you carry within.