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Next Level Soul Podcast with Alex Ferrari
NLS 664: Taoist Master's Ancient Teachings for Humanity with Master Mingtong Gu
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Welcome to Next Level Soul, the place where we deep dive into the mysteries of existence, uncover hidden layers of consciousness and and explore the journey of the soul. I'm your host, Alex Ferrari, and every week we sit down with the world's leading spiritual teachers, mystics, scientists and truth seekers to illuminate the path towards awakening. Here we ask questions that truly matter. Why are we here? Where are we going? And how do we elevate our lives, our purpose and our consciousness to the Next level? This is a space for transformation, a space for expansion. A space to remember who you really are. So take a deep breath, open your mind, and prepare to step into your Next Level Soul. Now, if you're ready to take your spiritual journey to the next level, explore Next Level Soul tv, our streaming platform filled with exclusive movies, docs, original shows, transformative series, guided meditations, channeling sessions, audiobooks and deep spiritual teachings. You won't Find anywhere else. New content drops every week, helping you expand your consciousness and live from your highest potential. Start your journey today at Next LevelSoul TV. The views, opinions and statements expressed by our guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the beliefs or positions of Next Level Soul, its host, or any of the companies they represent. Now let's dive into today's episode. I'd like to welcome to the show Master Ming Tung Gu. How you doing, Ming Tung?
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I'm doing so great, thank you. How are you, Alex?
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I am doing fantastic, my friend. Thank you so, so much for being here. I am, I am. I don't think I've had a daoist on the show before, so I've been a. A big fan of the Dao Te Ching since it was one of the first books I ever wrote, read in the spiritual space, other than. Other than being forced to read the Bible when I was in Catholic school. But. But that book is so kind of unassuming because it's a small book, it's a very short read, but every sentence is like his sledgehammer. It is so dense and so deep of a well of information, and it will take you a lifetime to discern, but yet the lessons in it are so powerful, so profound and so timeless. So I am truly looking forward to diving in a little deeper into that and your work and how you got here, my friend. So thank you for being here.
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I'm so delighted. So looking forward to this conversation. Yeah.
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So you've been trained as a Taoist in the Daoist traditions that are as a tradition of thousands of years old. But what do you feel modern humanity has forgotten that these teachings were meant to preserve?
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I think that's the most powerful question to start with. It's great timing to ask that question right now, and especially when we're facing so much challenges, stress, tension, trauma and disconnection. All the disease, all the mental health issues, all the crisis happening around the world, I don't have to make all the. And I see this as all symptoms, human symptoms, whether it's happening physically, emotionally, mentally, even spiritually, you know, socially, economically, practically, culturally, it's all happening. It's all like symptom symptoms. Now it's even amplified by the technology. On one hand, technology bring us so much efficiency and comfort and even promises. On the other hand, is causing so much destruction, addictions and loss of meanings, banal, all that. So all the problem is amplified. But when I see all these symptoms, I have to ask the question, you know, been asking deeply for all these years, particularly last two years, I would just say after the pandemic, I started asking the question more deeply. And in the last two years, more so ironically after being working with AI extensively. And it's like asking that deeper question, you know, like one is like, okay, what is the worst outcome of humanity, especially in this time of. In this age of AI? And the answer was shocking, simple and profoundly true. At least one of the option is happening now, not just for the future is humanity is going slow, slow. Oh, by choice, without knowing. And that was shocking, but mostly shocking because it's true. And all the reason I don't need to explain all that we're experiencing that right now, you know, by outsourcing our creativity and dependence on AIs and also any technology, especially AI, but also is really outsourcing our own purpose, meaning of life. Focus on mental only, focus on performance only focus on functionality only focus on more and more faster, faster than we're losing the deeper connection of this body. This body. And the second question asked is, what is the best outcome of humanity in this age of AI? It's also profoundly shocking, but exciting. It also can be true. AI can help us to mill back our humanity. What are we losing? What are we are amplifying here? So basically, as outcome of that can on one hand bring us clarity, also amplify our creativity. That's one of the reasons I want to share some sound video created by AI otherwise which is not possible. Because I'm an artist and I create a lot of stuff, you know, visual and video and stuff. But still limited. But I expanding my capacity. Yeah. Without losing my creativity, so to speak. Yeah. But also the capacity to awakening. Awakening. I think many of us right now feels like we the pendulum of humanity is going to one direction, to extreme. The extreme of suffering, the extreme of politics, extreme of conflict, extreme of, you know, addiction, so to speak. Yeah. At some point we'll swim back, have to swing back. When we experience enough pain, enough suffering. The only choice waiting for us is wake up. Only choice waiting for is changing, you know, what is not working anymore. But among all that asking the question how I we how I can help others as a teacher, as a leader, to move from the worst outcome to the best outcome. The conclusion is so simple. When I'm. When we see all the problem is so complex. All the problem caused by this, caused by that. Blaming this, blaming that. History, technology, human greed, all that stuff. Right? Power, control, always, never satisfied. All that is true. But the deepest cause of all these suffering, all these problems, all these addiction, all this health issue in the world internally around the planet earth is a disconnection of the mind body, our own disconnection of our own mind with our own body. The mind living in the, you know, in the mental world. Concept story, problem solving, you know, wishful thinking. What have these concepts, good and bad, right, wrong, shouldn't, you know, judgment, you know, all that history, story, whatever identity, believe, you know. Then without connecting the body, it's like has its own world, living the own world. Yeah. And the whole world is based on like how your mind is functioning. You know, you identify yourself just as purely as a mind, you know, existence as even the idea of consciousness. It's like as if the consciousness existing by itself as a human being. And then it's like the next one is like now the digital, the mind is hijacked by the digital world. We're living in the digital world. Spend so much time on the screen, whatever way scoring, scoring, destructing, destructing addiction, addiction. And then over the time we lose. What? Who am I?
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So deeply, what I have been discovering is like we slow the human history now. Even worse at the time is this total disconnection from this body, from this body. So what I'm realizing, without this body, without this body, I do not exist as human being. Without this body, you do not exist as a human being. We don't realize that truth. We're lost in thinking, we're lost in the digital world. We're lost looking for whatever things we want outside of us without realizing this body is a living temple. This body is not only part of us, but this body is carrying everything. Who am I? Yeah, everything. The physical, the emotional, the mental, the spiritual, the subtle, energetic. That's what we're working as in qigong. Yeah. And second truth is, without this body, I cannot experience life as human being, period. I cannot experience life as human being. No matter how much you talk about mind, concept, spirit, you cannot experience life as human being while I'm living here on the planet Earth. Yeah, we're talking about life as a concept. So experience, the direct experience can only possible with this huge human body existence. I see the phenomena slow the eyes of my body. I hear the sound through the air of my body. I touch life through the hands, skin on my body. Yeah. I feel life slow everything inside of me. This body is more than just the physical machine. That's something we can explore in our whole life. And the third truth is, without this body, my soul cannot evolve in this lifetime. No matter how much you talk about the soul, I define the soul. You know, experiencing whatever the soul levels, you know, struggle and so on. But the truth is, without this body, my soul cannot evolve in this lifetime.
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Very, very true. One thing I wanted to ask you from your point of view, because the path that you've walked is one of, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but one of discipline. One of not falling completely into the world of comfort which is Where I believe that we have lost our way a bit because we have exchanged or given power to comfort. It's all about comfort. It's all about staying safe. It's all about everything has to be perfect. It's all about I need to have AC all the time. I need to have three to five meals a day all the time. I need to have this house in this car. And this. If the car doesn't have this, oh, it doesn't have heated seats, how am I going to live in life? It doesn't have heated seats. And now it's just. And like. And now we have everything ever created visually at the. On a phone.
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Yeah.
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Every movie, every TV show.
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Right.
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Every video, all of the ancient wisdom that has been digitized and translated and it's all at. So we've. I feel that, and this is again my personal take. I feel that we've given our power away to comfort. But the older ways, the ancient ways, didn't have that option. And it allowed us to focus more on the journey and focus more on the body, focus more on the mind. What's your take on that?
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Yeah, you're right on. You're right on. So that's one of the biggest problem. So number one problem is disconnection of the mind, body. And from there the second problem comes implied from that is resistance to discomfort and wishing. Life is about comfort. We spend so much time, so much energy, so much resources. The whole life, including the whole technology is created to create more comfort, to run away from any discomfort. But the truth is, no matter how much comfort you create around you, comfortable condition you're creating around you, when you go into the body, you are going to experience discomfort. No question about it. Sooner or later, no matter how healthy you are, how young you are, how beautiful you are, you know, how perfect you are. Whatever your story might be, when you go into the body, you're going to experience discomfort. Yeah. Anytime you see something you dislike, you just dislike your body experiencing contraction discomfort. Anytime you experience in the weather other than what you expected, you're gonna experience discomfort. Anytime you know, when you experience something other than you expect it, other than you feel perfect, you're going to experience discomfort. And that is the nature of life. Life is about change, about nature, nature of life. You need to go to the nature, you can experience that, right? But when you're hiding in the comfortable home, creating the most comfortable condition, temporarily you're not experiencing it, but when you go into the body, you're going to discover discomfort is there. You're Trying to avoid it. Avoid it. Dismissing it. Yeah. Overriding it, running away from it by the external discomfort condition you're experiencing. Especially the addiction. What's the cause of addiction? Simply we often experiencing addiction. Yeah. Not only the body experiencing the discomfort, but we don't want to face it. We don't want to face it. We don't want to experience that truth. And obviously in this body you experience in both discomfort, comfort, pain, joy. Yeah. Love and hate, fear, power, you know, all the good. Both paradox. Yeah. So more you want avoiding what you labeled as negative, bad. More you're going to avoid experiencing of joy. The positive stuff inside of you too. So you don't know how to experience life directly. Then using the substance to numb it, to replace it. Including the digital. The digital. You know, how often you know, honestly, you know, including myself when I feel stressed, uncomfortable. Certain way. Physically, emotionally, mentally, we go this. Yeah. Seeking for some release, destruction, temporary numbing that feeling. But that feeling is still there. Sooner or later we'll get hitting us. So come back to, you know, my life. I experienced a lot of discomfort. Grown up childhood, you know, including adopted from young age, actually from nine months old. Then lived with two adopt family and then eventually came back to my birth family. So this is obviously, you know, not an ideal childhood.
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Traumatic to say the least.
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Right. Separation, abundance, you know, all that. Yeah. But also I grew up with disease such as diagnosed as incurable disease, asthma, sclerosis, low back pain, really low energy and so on. So I grew up childhood like that. So fear life is very contracted, limited. And the feeling the way I grown up is like the sense of deep sorrow, deep sadness, feeling of lost feeling, absence of happiness. Something is missing. Not quite know what it is. Yeah. So slow. My journey of wisdom, healing qigong, as you said, practicing diligently for about three years, I was able to recover from all these so called incurable condition. Later discovered the words incurable is just a label by medical system. Which means according to the conventional medical system, the doctor cannot help you kill or recover from this particular condition. You know, by using conventional approach. Yeah. Drug, surgery, whatever might be right.
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But that doesn't mean the condition itself is incurable. And I lived with that label for half of my life without any hope to change it until I started practicing qigong. In the beginning I didn't know even that is possible. I was practicing qigong actually more like for spiritual purpose, a sense of meditation, calmness, sense of connection. Actually the first time, you know, when I took a class actually with my friend and she is actually western white skinned woman and teaching Tai chi in qigong in Columbus, Ohio and she introduced me to qigong and honestly I never heard of qigong. I was at my 30s already. I was in graduate school for fine art, you know, photographer in the video as a crazy artist and exploring, you know, who am I, you know, what is life and so on was deeply meaningful, rewarding and adventurous. And so she introduced me to this former qigong when I was taking first class with her for first time in my life I feel sense of like calmness. More like internal subtleness. Internal subtleness. Then she gave me book about history of qigong and obviously that's in Chinese. So when I read it I was totally surprised. You know I grew up in China, you know, until you know, 23 years old, came to the US but never heard of qigong. And I heard of tai chi and I tried tai Chi, I couldn't do it for obvious reason, health reasons. And also. It's too complex. Yeah, too complex.
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It is.
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Honestly, I did.
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I. I remember I did God when I was doing Tai chi, I think. Was it like an 89, 89 or 90 position?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of those forms. And I remember, I'm like, good Lord, this is gonna take me forever. Let me. Can I tell you a story about. Can I tell you my qigong story, Episode three?
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I love to hear.
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So when I was in God, I must have been 20, maybe, maybe 19, something like that was either late teens, early 20s, and I was already exploring at that young age, different modalities. And I was always searching, was always a seeker. So I got myself some audio cassettes on qigong. I'm like, oh, this seems kind of cool. Let me.
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Right, pre.
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This is pre Internet, pre anything. So I just. Audio. Audio cassettes and I start listening to it in my room and I start practicing. I'm sitting down in a chair and I'm practicing. I don't remember what it was, but I was using my mind. That's all it was very sitting. It was almost, almost like a meditation, but it was a sit down meditation. I was like focusing my mind and where the mind and I was focusing my energy on where the energy would flow.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And then all of a sudden I start focusing my energy to my arm. And as in, my arm starts to heat up, but it's not hurting. But the fire, it felt like I was on fire. It was the craziest thing I'd ever felt. This is my first time doing qigong ever. And my arm, I still remember it to this day. I'm like, I'm conscious, I'm focused and I'm like in the back of my head, my little voice is going, dude, your arm is on fire. I'm like, no, no, I'm okay. It doesn't hurt. But I felt this heat. And then it started on the hand and then it started to grow and it was starting to go up my arm. And then I freaked out. I was like, you know what? I think I need to stop this. I don't know what's going on. I had no guides, I had no information other than this qigong tape. But that was my first experience with qigong. And it introduced me to the idea of the mind body connection and that there was something deeper behind the matrix, if you will. This is pre matrix too. So.
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Pre matrix, right?
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Totally before 1999. But there was something beyond this reality. There was something different than what I had been told. It was a. It was a doorway into exploring more. It was a. A breadcrumb that the universe gave me. But it scared me because I didn't know what it was. And again, there was nobody guiding me, no information. But I kept going. So that's why I went to Tai Chi. I went aikido. I did all sorts of different modalities trying to find it, but it was very, very interesting to me.
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What?
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That going back and thinking about it again, what it did for my life, that one moment of qigong opened up a realization that. That the world is not what it is. I was told it was.
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Yeah.
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Does that make that make sense?
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Beautiful. Totally. You know, this experience, you know, sometime as an accident, but most time is when you explore something, learning something, suddenly an experience arise beyond our old perception, our old assumption, or, you know, whatever knowledge base. Then we become really curious because its experience is undeniable. It's a parable. Right. You know, what you experience is the inner fire. The inner fire. So it's not like the fire from the sun, this fire you're touching on the hard stove, it's the inner fire. So it's like the energy we experience outside of us. We often, you know, beyond, you know, what we see is energy, but also beyond. What we see is also subtle. Beyond that is there's subtle energy. You know, the fact, for example, the light, the light from the sun, you see it, but actually you don't see it. Why? Because what you see is only refraction of the light on the form, but the light is in the space. For example, this moment, you see the light behind me in this image, but in front of me, my hands. You see my hands. So you convinced you see the light? Yes. If I take my hands away, the light is still there in the same space, my hands occupied. But when taking hands away, you don't see the lights at all, which is a visible light. But your visible eye, your naked eye still cannot see the visible light. So imagine that. So that is the limitation of perception.
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Yeah.
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So what outside of us, visible, invisible, is also existing. What's inside the body, both visible, invisible. So the science study the visible part of inside of us. Yeah, the tangible, the somatic, physiological, biological chemistry, so on, which is important. But beyond that, visible, physical, tangible, measurable. Is this invisible, imaginable? That's the mystery. That's where people feel like acupuncture is like a mystery you cannot truly scientifically validate, but you can, you know, measure the result. Scientifically but that's the only simple example. But this energy field inside of us is much more bigger, deeper than acupuncture. Meridian Channel system is this energy field. This energy field. You think about that every cell has its own energy field. Then trillion cell inside your body together formulating an energy field. And that expanding beyond this physical boundary of this physical body, we see tangibly that's the energy field. And that energy field is not only responsible for function of health physical function that is beyond electrical magnetic field. It's a living energy field that's including your consciousness. So it's really encompassing the physical, emotional, mental, spiritual dimension of who we are. So we speak of wholeness. Wholeness of who we are is the wholeness of this body, including every aspect who we are. So when you tap into that, able to not only experience it as you, you know, illustrate these experience can be totally surprising, but you can cultivate this energy field consciously.
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Yeah, and you're working with energy anyway, but you're not aware of it. That means you're unconscious of it. Yes. So the difference between practice not practice is when you practice you're consciously working with energy. So it's not a belief system. Believe energy existing or not now scientifically validate. Especially according to the quantum physics we know everything is made of energy, including this body. And that knowledge is well known in many ancient traditions, including Daoist tradition in China, you know, 5,000 years ago, not only Tao Te Ching, but Yellow Emperor's bible of internal medicine and the whole Chinese culture, Egg Tree is based on this idea of Qi. Qi. We're speaking of chi all the time. You know, angry means the chi arising. Yeah. Happy means the Qi is opening. So speak of Qi all the time and that knowledge is there, but hardly anyone practiced it. So the reason I didn't know about qigong until I came to us, because later I realized qigong has been remain underground in Chinese culture until 60 years ago. Even in China. Even in China has been available as internal okimi immortality practice. Okay. But what's known is like a martial art is more like strong energy practice one form of qigong, but it's more like martial art qigong, so to speak. Yeah, it's different. So the internal art of qigong is working with energy for longevity, for healing, actually for immortality. The idea of living forever. And obviously, you know, no one can truly realize that in human history. But it's this legend people live beyond not only 100, 200, even 300 years old. These are true stories.
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Yeah. Moses, Moses was 900 years old apparently.
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Right, Right. But they all have this internal cultivation to realize that. So that's also indication indicating as human being. We all have this potential beyond thinking. This just a region that they are thinking. This just superhuman beyond thinking. They just echo some spear came from the heaven down, then descending, you know, in whatever superhuman form. No, we all human here. We all carry the same potential, same genetic. That genetic is including our history, which including the limitation, but also including the potential of evolution for next stage of humanity. That's all immunogenetic. Not only nowadays we discover new. The old idea of gene function is absolute, is based on epigenetic. Yeah. How we think, how we feel, how we experience in life, how the energy feel in the body is. Is the ultimate epigenetic. For the genetic to function certain way limited our full potential. But the deep part is the genetic creating. I mean carry the unknown potential which is still waiting for us to tap into. As example, I don't know the number percentage potential of a brain being used. Like among 20, 30 potential. Right now maybe Einstein tap into much greater percentage than average human being. So that means this greater potential, greater percentage awaiting for us to discover experience. But how can you do that? You know, we're speaking of consciousness important. Yes, it is important. But when you approaching consciousness as a separate entity, that's the problem we're facing. We're not including this body. We're not including every aspect of who we are. So this disconnection between the mind body is causing not only limitation as human being, but also the suffering. So the healing, the medicine, the good news or the golden key in this case is connecting the mind body. Instead of just the body only or the mind only or approaching just mentally or preaching, the body just exercises as a physical machine, as a tool, as a vehicle, as just biological. That's very limiting perception. So but when you're connecting the mind body, realizing they're not only connected, they're inseparable. The deeper meaning as human is to realize how the mind body can work together, not only collaborating, but deeper union. That's the mystical dimension as human being. So in the Daoist tradition is about. It's called tian ren hui. Yeah. Literally means. Yeah. Honoring the human being as a union of heaven and earth. You know, in this language, we speaking of heaven, earth sometimes become like thinking about outside of us, become abstract, become overly spiritual concept. But what that means, it means within us, heaven is the mind, the body is the earth. When the mind body connected, you are experiencing the heaven, the earth uniting inside of you. So all the power, including in the martial art, is about the mind connecting with the body. Yes, deeper union. When you experience that the power come out of that is beyond just power of the mind, beyond just power of the body. Is the third aspect, the union producing something new, which more than just one or two, just like the water, you know, H2, you know, O is more than just H, more than just O. Combined together become the water. That's the third, is the ultimate union, the result of the union. And that's what life is. That's its ultimate alchemy. Yeah. Yin Yang uniting together become one. That's how you return into the oneness. That's how experiencing the oneness, that's how experiencing creation, transformation, evolution.
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C
An example of what you're discussing for people listening, a simple one and a very famous one is Bruce Lee's one inch punch is a combination of the mind and the body. Because when he did the one inch punch, which is very famously in that exhibition, he's sitting there with an open palm and he's literally an inch away from the body and he just does this punch and the guy goes flying about eight or nine feet. That's not physically possible with an army by itself.
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Right.
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And especially his arm. He wasn't a big guy, he wasn't a UFC fighter that was 275 and had an amazing amount of of physical prowess. But he did because of this combination of the two and the sum of the parts creates something so much more powerful than one or the because he could have just sat there and thought about a 1 inch punch and that's not gonna do it. And he could have tried to do a 1 inch bunch with just his arm and it's not gonna work.
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B
Exactly.
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C
But the combination of those two created something. And I love the way you said alchemy. It is the ultimate form of alchemy. And this is something I think as well, is that when you go inside, which is what we've been discussing today, when you go internally, that is where you'll find the greatest power. Totally find the greatest. You'll find the greatest power not only for your own life, but you. And I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. When you started to, I'm assuming you meditate. When you started to meditate, when you started to go in deeper within yourself to transcend the physical and to not only go into the spiritual, but maybe transcend a little bit into the mystical. Because it's, it's natural. When you start to go that deep, the mystical starts to present itself in all traditions. But you start to see the world, the physical world, the three dimensional world differently. You start to see the code you are. You slowly become Neo. You start to see, oh, that's what that is. Oh, that's what that means. Does that make sense to you?
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely. It's like this connection of the mind is truly the golden key to all the secret, all the mystery and to everything we're looking for, basically. So one of the way, you know, I can speak about experientially is that you discovering energy, discovering energy. So like beneath all phenomena is energy. So then you experience life differently beyond the mental labels good and bad. Right, Wrong, should, shouldn't even perception of, you know, physical limitation, our separation or conflict and our operating just from this conceptual, moral, you know, dogma levels you deeply experiencing the truth of life. Yeah, the direct experience of life is beyond all these concepts, beyond all these moral definition. And so by doing that, you even go deeper discovering, you know, who we are. Who we are. So that is the ultimate journey, alchemy, ultimate mystical journey. It's like simultaneously discovering who we are by going internally. This energy field encompassing the physical, emotional, mental, spiritual, and realizing how the mind body is interacting, connecting and experiencing this union. You know, sometimes we experiencing this mystical experience as union experience like as accident, you know, it's like you're doing something, then you, you just like don't think about anymore. Suddenly, boom, you feel very different in the zone, for example. Right. And then you feel like suddenly you connect with everything in life. Life. Yeah. So that, that release of the mental concept of separation or busyness or stressfulness, whatever it is, or totally occupied by your own mental construction of what should be, shouldn't be, whatever. Then you, when you're letting go of that, suddenly, oh, I'm here this moment, I'm experiencing everything existing. And you start open to this mystical experience of oneness naturally then so you like discovering who we are, that capacity of existence and experience. But same time discover the nature of existence, of life. So that's what I love about is like in Taoist tradition, it's more focused on, you know, the dao is speaking about the nature of existence, the nature of existence, nature of creation, nature of life, nature of energy, nature of flow, but also including the nature of this mind body. When you do qigong practice, so qigong is more like a practice experiential process for you to discover the Tao, which is about the nature of existence. But in order to discover the nature of existence, you have to discover the nature of who you are, your own existence. You cannot exclude and say, oh, I'm just consciousness, I'm here, you know, consciousness. Trying to understand everything existing other than consciousness, you cannot discover the truth of that. Consciousness can only experience the true nature of life by uniting with the existence of life.
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C
From, from the Taoist perspective, the chaos that we are seeing around us that you talked about earlier. We're all seeing it around us.
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It's.
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C
I always try to, to picture. I try to frame it as like guys, it's been worse. It's been worse in history. Let's just put it very for.
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B
I agree. I couldn't agree more now.
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C
I mean it was worse. It was worse in our lifetime. There were worse times. And definitely in over the last 6,000 years is definitely been worse. But I think we're hyper, hyper aware of all of this because of social media, because of the technology. We're seeing everything all the time. Is what we're seeing an actual breakdown of, of humanity? Or is it just part of a larger transformation of humanity's consciousness moving forward?
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Yeah, it's a good question. You know, we can look at both ways. Yeah. You know, one hand is getting worse. On the other hand we can do whatever we can to wake up sooner than later. Let's stay tom so much.
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C
Let's hope.
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B
Let's.
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C
Let's hope my friend.
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A
Let's hope.
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B
Well then another way we're looking at it is like, like when we go to the pit, the bottom of that eventually we have to wake up or just distinguish over humanity, which is more than possible right now. Actually I think unfortunately it's true. A lot of people in powerful place of humanity. Right. Choose going to that direction with this idea of implementing our mind consciousness to a machine so we don't have to experience this body anymore. This illusion of immortality existing in the digital machine. And so by doing that, this idea of immortality and this idea of don't have to experience this bodily imperfection anymore, this bodily, you know, discomfort, this bodily disease, this bodily pain, this bodily love and the joy, all that suddenly become like this consciousness separate from the body and in, in the machine. On one hand, I don't think it's totally possible. I don't think it's totally possible on the hand if you make that happen. So the outcome is not something I want for myself, for humanity, for my kids. I don't want to live like in walking Stick. The head is super powerful as a machine. Then the rest is just like stick, Walking stick as a robot. I don't think that is my choice of new humanity. I see that as distinguishing of humanity. So all these three things is happening. The distinguishable humanity on other hand is the total suffering destruction we're experiencing as we continuously experiencing now without doing anything about it until we have to wake up. But the middle way I'm choose to do let's wake up now, do something now. And actually the most important thing to do as I want to share passionately, that's the only thing you can do to save yourself, save humanity is connecting with your own body, reclaiming your own body. This body is the embodiment of humanity. So the power you're looking, you know, I'm not talking about external power, the inner power and the purpose, the meaning as human being, it's all existing inside of you. All the love and the joy and the health. Yeah. Experience of, you know, fulfillment, all have to be experienced with this body. It's all inside of you. So simply put it like when the energy of your body, you know, contracted. Yeah. Then the function of you in all level physical, emotional, mental, spiritual, compromised, limited, eventually leading to disease. Yeah. Burnout emotionally, you know, whatever, depression, anxiety, you know, all stuff come out. Yeah. And when the same energy awakening, I'm talking about awakening here, it's not as apt to a concept. You're awakening your body means you're awakening the energy inside of you already. Instead of the energy contracted, numbed, you awaken the energy to move to open. So when the energy flowing in the entire system of your body, that means every part of your body start to communicate more effectively then naturally health improve. What is health? Health means every part of your body is working in harmony with communication of wholeness. Not separation, not fragmentation, not disconnecting anomnias. That's what health means.
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Foreign.
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B
Working in wholeness. So when the energy of your heart openings flowing again. Especially the energy of your five organ system, which is associating with your emotional experience. The heart associated with love and joy. But the kidney associated with fear. And also empowerment, strong will. And the digestive system associating with worry, also confidence. And the liver including immune system, purification system associated with the experience of anger and also courage. The long respiratory system associated with this feeling of sadness, grief, loss, but also compassion. Compassion. So when you tap into, not only into your heart, allow the energy of the five organ system awakening, opening, then you're increasing your emotional capacity, experiencing all this human experience as I named, without being stuck. Without being stuck. So it's not about avoiding pain, avoiding fear. You cannot avoid it. You can suppress it, you can numb it. You cannot sink yourself out of it. Because everything is in your body is real. No matter how much you want to feel or whatnot. You know, it's like one tangible example. Every day we experience stress, right? But often we feel like, okay, mental stress. I'm mentally stressed now chance find a way to release that mental stress. Do something different, sing something different, watch a movie, whatever. Releasing some mental stress. But the truth is your body is carrying the stress now. How much you mentor trying to avoid it, think yourself out of it. The body is carrying the stress. The tangible experience of the body. Stress is a contraction. Your shoulder tightening up over the time, your spine contracting, numbing and your hip pain start to happen. All these contractions eventually leading to physical issue, including pain. But that is too late. Yeah, when you're experiencing that, but every day the stress is in the body. But when you're not aware, you're not connected with your body, then you don't know how to take care of it. Then the stress accumulate over time. Then eventually the body say no more. Then suddenly we're diagnosed with disease. Chronic disease, life threatening disease, even say incurable disease. Then we feel like shocked, like why me? But that's the result of decades, decades of stress. The result of contracting energy pattern in the body. So only way to take care of that is every day you're connecting with your body, be aware of the physical contraction sensation, discomfort, the emotional experience you're having. Also the mental pattern you know you're in without knowing. Then energetically do this practice shifting the pattern from contraction to openness. Yeah. From stagnation to flow, from disconnection to connection again, to wholeness again. And that is so simple and including the practice, so simple. It's like movement as meditation, you slow down the movement. So when you, for example, this moment we can experimenting a little bit. Yeah. When you do kind of physical movement.
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Like this.
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You'Re spending energy. Right? Right. You feel good. After a while you're exhausted. Yeah. If you move the arm like this, very slow, soft, you feel your arm slow the movement, you're releasing the tension, the physical tension, the physical stress as well, the energetic tension. Yeah. When you move slowly, so slow, slow down. When you slow down, you also slow down. In your mind you're releasing the fast thinking, the stressful thinking. Then you're connecting with your body. The more you slow, you move, more you start to not only connecting with your body, feel your body realizing, especially with the eyes closed, you start realizing this arm is beyond just the physical arm, it's the energy arm. Yeah. And your thoughts affecting the experience of the arm. Emotion is affecting the experience of the arm. And the arm is carrying all this experience. And most time you're not aware of it. So when more you're aware of it, more you do these gentle movement, then the energy just start to awakening, opening, flowing again. So that's just like one simple example. And obviously we do other practice such as sound, vibration to waken the energy of the Heart5 organ system. You know, we do sitting meditation, walking meditation, lying down meditation, pure consciousness meditation. So this whole combination of all these activity allow you tap into the whole energy system of who we are.
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C
Well, the one thing that what you said was so beautiful, but. And I don't know how it is in the east, but in the west, we are basically trained to hate our bodies. It's never good enough. It's never, it's never perfect enough. It's never. Because we're putting up, you know, we're comparing ourselves to people who are either genetically perfect or are doing things that are improbable or impossible to maintain for long periods of time. Like, you know, and. And now it's starting to come out. Some of these actors who on screen they just look like Adonis's, but they like. Yeah, I didn't eat or drink anything for 24 hours prior to that scene because I needed to dehydrate my body so much so I can show every single muscle and every single this or that. But the second I was done with that scene, I ate pizza. You know, there's a scene in a recent movie, Top Gun, the last Top Gun movie, there's a very famous beach scene where they're playing football. They shot everyone's shirtless. All the guys are shirtless and all the guys. And it was a competition. They trained to see who would look best on screen after they shot it. Tom Cruise watched it, didn't like it. He's like, we're shooting this again. And everyone already let themselves go. So they had to go back. And that's just an example of like it's impossible to maintain these things. So what is that doing to us as, as a society? Because people are. If you hate, if you actually energetically look in the mirror and hate, hate what you see, are dissatisfied with who you are. You associate the self with the way you look. You know, as we get older, that starts to wean. Hopefully though, there's a lot of plastic surgery that would differ with what I'm saying. But generally speaking, as you get older, the body just goes, look, you're not 20 anymore and you're not going to look 20 anymore. That's just the way it is, aging gracefully. But there's this, this thing that people, I mean, I just want you to explain to people what it's doing to them. And I'm by the way, you and me, I'm sure I, I don't want to speak to you for you, but for me, I was raised in this world and raised and worked in Hollywood for 30 years. So even as a man, you would look at your body and you just like, oh God, I don't look like Brad Pitt. Because you're not Brad Pitt. I just saw Brad Pitt in the late, in his latest movie. He was, he's 61, I think now he has a six pack. I'm like, God damn it, Brad. What are you doing, brother? But he looks great. God bless him.
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Right? Yeah. Good for them. Right?
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C
Right. But he did say. But he did. But he did say in an interview. He goes, he goes, how you looking so good? He goes, looking so good. I have to get up three times a night to go to the bathroom. I don't know what you're talking about.
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B
Love that. Right? Isn't that great?
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C
It's just like bring it back to reality.
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B
Totally. Yeah. I'm so grateful you bring up these really most important question deep issue we're facing as human being. So it's not just like the western thing. I think it's everywhere nowadays, especially now with digital media. Actually it's worse in China. It's like all this app help you to beautify your look.
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A
The filters.
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B
Yes, the filters.
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C
Yes, yes.
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B
Oh my God. You know, so it's not just in the west, everywhere, not just the young generation, you know, not just in the celebrity world. It's like identify the look and as if that is determining who we are without, you know, go deeper beyond the skin, beyond the surface. You know, experience your horror. It's nothing about your look. Experiencing your relationship of life, these, all these feelings is in your body. Experiencing the truth of who you are is beyond just how you look.
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And so these two things is like so inseparable, connected. Yeah. It's like the separation from the mind. The mind, the body. So when you identify your body just by the look, you're not really connecting with your body deeply. The truth of your body is more than look. So that is one thing. But secondly is like when you disconnect with your body, then you have this misunderstanding of the body. Assumption about the body. Even wrong belief about the body. Even in certain spiritual religious traditions. Think of the body sin. Body is bad, body is evil. Yeah. And that's like causing so much unnecessary suffering the whole life. They couldn't get away from that belief system. You know, have the students from Jewish tradition. I'm not saying this belief come from Jewish tradition, but for her in the case, whatever the way she grown up, she thought about this body is bad. She thought especially the hip area when we move in the hip connecting the energy of the hip, she's like, oh, no, I don't want to go There, that's the part I was told is bad. So over the years she progressed gradually. You know, in the beginning she feel better about of all of the body and herself. Then go deep into the horror, discovering more joy, more energy flow, more connection. And she was in the 70 already and like feel loss of meaning of life. Then she discovered the new meaning of life by connecting with herself through her own body. And then eventually in the third year, she was a very dedicated practitioner. She silently she told me, she called me, you know, mastermind Tong out of respect. She's like, oh my God. Master, Master, finally I can see, feel my hip now, peacefully, joyfully. And that moment I realized that is so important for her and it's so important for most a lot of us to know. We've been missing this disconnection, missing this connection based on misconception. So simply put it over the years I'm working with tens of thousand students including intensively in the retreat. The most intense retreat we offer is like 30 day of retreat, 30 day of non stop coming back to this body again, again, slow all these practice slow teachings, slow personal mirroring, sleep, slow self refraction of their own journey of history and so on, formulating these belief patterns and eventually go to the place of releasing these belief systems. So there's five different kind of assumptions about this body. One is think of the body as object and therefore we focus on the look. So the man, woman relationship based on object causing so much dysfunction, so much suffering, so much problem in human relationship, particularly between man and woman as well, aging. Yeah. And second misconception. Think of this body, just temporary vehicle. It's a tool, it's a vehicle. This popular analogy is called rental vehicle. This body is rental vehicle temporary. So I just use up. So the implication is like oh, it's not functioning. You give this body to someone else to fix it, you're not responsible. So we do not claim our birthright responsibility. This body is your own responsibility. It's you more than just a vehicle. And the third misconception, you think of this body as a machine. Yeah. Not just a vehicle, a machine to study, to control, to, you know, to the biological machine, you know, chemistry, whatever. That's how the medical system approaching it like study the body as a corpse. As if the mind is not in the equation. Energy is not in the equation. We gain a lot of knowledge about the physical aspect of the body, machinery aspect of the body without realizing what are we missing is energy, consciousness, wholeness, oneness and another. Yeah, misconception is also based on our human experience, particularly trauma, we think of this body as a prison. We can only experience freedom by getting rid of this body, by bypassing this body, even spiritually. The idea of enlightenment without this body, the idea of transcendence, leaving the body so can be free. It's like crazy making. What's the point of you coming here as a human? What's the point? If you want just realizing enlightenment consciously without this body, then you go somewhere else. You don't have to be in this body. You come all the way wherever you come from, suddenly being in human form with this body. Now you want to get rid of this body so you can be free again. What's the point of being in this journey? This link, connection. Think about that.
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It's like.
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B
So it's all come from this avoidance of discomfort, avoidance of true humanity. Even spiritually, even religiously. We're doing that without understanding. Without understanding. So, you know, honestly, I see this problem through the entire human history, not just right now. Yeah. I see this problem is amplified by the technology. Yeah. The disconnection, the gap becomes so big. Yeah. And even when we're looking for connection with each other, which is important with. Looking for connection with the Mother Earth is so important. But without the connection, the internal connection, own mind, body, you cannot truly experience connection fully with others with Mother Earth, with life just impossible. Right. Period. You know, I don't speak of things black and white, but for that matter, that's the truth. I'm staying with her.
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C
It's kind of like you get into a car and you start to drive and you perceive that as I'm in a prison.
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B
Right.
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C
I'm in a prison driving in this metal cell.
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B
Right.
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C
And driving around. Now, mind you, I used to live in Los Angeles, so it did feel like a prison when I was driving, especially in traffic. But generally speaking, it's. It's that kind of insanity because you can transcend the car, you can walk out of the car, but you. It's different. You. It is the car. It's the vehicle that gets you from point A to point B. It helps you experience the environment that you in. Without this body, you can't.
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There's no anything.
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No.
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B
We cannot experience anything.
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C
Just absolutely nothing, nothing at all can be experienced without. The reason we're down here is to be in this. We. We are in the spirit world. You know, I'm assuming that, you know, when we're in the spirit world. And I'm going to just frame it up as a human would in the spirit world. We're walking down the Spirit street. And I walk. I meet you, Ming Tung, and I go, hey, how are you doing? I'm like, oh, great. I just got back from Earth. I'm like, oh, man, you look great. What were you in? Like, oh, man, it was a hell of a story. I went through this, this, this, this, and this. I'm like, I can't. I mean, I would love to experience that. He goes, well, be careful what you wish for, because it ain't easy down there. But I tell you, it is something we cannot experience. I say up here, but we can experience here. It's a hell of a. It's a hell of a thing, man. It's kind of like, oh, should I get into a Ferrari? Because once you're in a Ferrari, you. You feel it and you drive me. I'm sorry, my name is that. But all right, let's say Mercedes. You get into a Mercedes and you're. Or a Bentley, and you're like, oh, oh. Oh, this is nice. Oh, this is very. It's a different experience of feeling that journey. And when you choose a body down. Come to come down here, you could choose a 1987 Pinto or you could choose a Bentley. And each one will give you a different experience. One will be rockier, One will have more.
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More shock issues.
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Some will have engine issues. Other ones will be a smooth ride no matter what comes your way, you know, so it's really up to you and what you want to experience as a soul when you come down here. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
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And now back to the show. I wanted to ask you, and this is something that in the new age movement is talked about a lot. It's been talked about since the 60s in the west, the hippie movement. Hey, man, you gotta raise your vibration, man. You gotta raise your frequency, dude, kind of thing.
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B
Yeah, and.
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And that term of like, I mean, you have to raise your frequency. You have to raise your vibration. From an ancient wisdom perspective. Perspective. How do they. How does ancient wisdom define real energetic evolution? Not just. Not just the T shirt version of raging.
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Yeah, I love that. Yeah. These concepts can be misreading as even including high vibration or pew. Just totally focus on consciousness and soul only as they are separate from the body. And even I want to be careful that when you're speaking of the knowledge of driving the vehicle, you know, has its point to learn from that. But really, you know, that analogy can lead into the war of misunderstanding too as well. So just want to clarify that this body is much, much, much more than a vehicle.
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C
Yes.
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So deeply is the expression. The physical body is expression of the soul is a physical expression of a soul. And the cell is carrying the divine blueprint of who we are. So the physical, the spiritual is inseparable. So the ultimate discovery in this spiritual mystical journey or awakening journey is really discover that awakening to that truth. The physical and spiritual is inseparable, and the personal, the collective inseparable. And me as human being the planet Earth, our whole existence of the universe is inseparable. That's the ultimate discovery. So anything leading to more connection, then we're moving to a spiritual capacity growth, so to speak. Anything continue reinforcing the separation, disconnection, the struggle of whatever polarity, conflict. Then we continuously moving backwards, so to speak. So this is whether we call the source evolution or spiritual awakening, for me simply is a degree of connection. It's a degree of inseparableness, degree of experience of oneness. We cannot expect ourselves, you know, functioning that way every day 24 7. But we can increasing the frequency, the capacity, the deeper knowing of that deep nature of oneness of life. So when you walk with energy, you start to allow yourself, at least in the beginning, perceiving life in that way. The cosmology of qigong is very simple. Three words. One is wholeness. Wholeness, the wholeness of life, including the wholeness of your body, including every aspect of self, is opposite of exclusiveness. The opposite of fragmentation is opposite of, you know, disconnection is the Opposite of judgment, separation. And also externally, you know how we can embracing each other in this perception of wholeness, we're all part of life. Yeah. Not only human being, animals all sending beings. The tree, the mountain, the forest, you know, every existence is part of life. And not just oh, human cannot survive exist without this nature. Which is true. But that is like based on the survival perception. But go beyond that. No, energetically we're co existing each other. This cannot be other way. It's not just for survival. It's the nature of existence. It's not like oh, I have to survive this fall, I need a tree, I have to survive this, I need to protect mother Earth. That is like the survival need is such a limited human perception. No, you are part of nature. Nature is part of you. And this energy body is extension of the energy of the mother earth. Vice versa. And the energy of the earth is extension of your own energy body. So when you experience that, then you can live in from different way complete. Different perception, different experience. But that perception only possible beyond just the mind thinking, beyond just concept. You have to feel your body, feel your body beyond the physical limitation. Discover the truth of your body beyond the assumption object. You know, you know, vehicle, you know, temporary prison. You know, bypassing all the sensation feeling. You cannot experiencing the true reality by bypassing, by transcending what is true. So what is true is true. By embracing everything is true. Then you get into the essence beyond the relative truth. Yeah. That is the oneness. The oneness. The oneness is beyond just relationship, no interaction, connection. The science of our dualistic thinking. You study whatever A and B. They're connected because they can interact. That's just relationship. Interdependent kind of relationship, which is the important part of life. But beyond that, without interaction energetically, they're connected already in the whole picture of oneness of existence. So when you experiencing that, then you don't see them like as separate. You don't seem, oh, this is better, this is worse, this is wrong. This is sure shouldn't then you experiencing the oneness in another level which bring you true peace. True peace. True peace is by embracing the whole existence of life as oneness, not just relationship. Yeah. And the true peace has to come from your inner peace. By embracing your own existence totally 100%. Now that's hard to do because this is the practice. And talk about discipline, you know, it's beyond just perception, beyond just belief, beyond just choice, beyond just intention. You have to do the work. That means when you come into this body, you have to embrace the discomfort, embracing the history, embracing the pain, embracing the trauma of the body carries from the past. More you embracing that, more you discover beneath all that is power, is energy, is love is the inner medicine waiting for you to discover. And that's the most powerful process. Yeah. So the whole process I'm discovering sharing today is coming home to embodied awakening and that is my upcoming book is about and finally I decided to write a book for public after all these years, you know students asking me you know you should write book write book. I have quite a few book for my community for their practice finally say you know even there are tons of book out there, you know, you don't need another book on the bookshelf. Read more information. But realizing this book is essential, it's important is not only inspiration really want to inviting people looking at life in different ways in this time of crisis, particularly discovery. Discover your own body, your own power, your own purpose in this age of AI.
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C
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And now back to the show. Mingtang. Thank you so much for that. That was beautiful. You have a little surprise for us, a little a little treat for us if you will. You have a song that you would like to share with us and we haven't done that on the show before, but I thought it would be really beautiful to to hear this song.
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B
I'm so, so happy for that, grateful for that. You're open to that. And I'm all about, you know, radical approach and I know you are in the same page as well. So let me play the song while we meditate. Everybody is looking for something. Everybody is looking for someone Everybody is looking for something oh. Everybody is looking for someone Everybody is looking for some. Some. Everybody. Everybody is looking for themselves. Looking for their own body.
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C
Looking for themselves.
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B
Welcome home. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome to your own body. Welcome to your ar. Welcome to your own body. Welcome to your own. Welcome to yourself.
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C
That was beautiful. That was beautiful. Thank you so much for sharing that with Esmingtong. Where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world?
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A
Yeah.
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We have so much to share, to offer. So the best way is going to my website, mintongu.com, mintongu.com and if you're interested to find out more about the book launch happening shortly in March and forward slash book and semintongku.com book. So simple link and I was looking forward to connect in the field, especially in this amazing times. I'm so, so grateful this opportunity have this deep conversation with you, Alex, and appreciate so much of the work and your journey and together we can make something happen.
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C
I hope so, my friend. I hope so.
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B
And we're doing it. We're trying.
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C
We're trying. And my last question is, if you could offer one timeless message to humanity during this moment of transition, what would it be?
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B
The most important, essential message I want to share. If you want to make a difference for yourself, for your, in a family, for your life, for the world, is only two things you can do. Cultivating two gardens. First, most important is the internal garden of your own body. Yeah. Not just take care of your body and, you know, improving the function of your body, exercising your body, dressing up your body or make up your body, but deeply loving your body, discovering who you are. And secondly, creating garden outside of you. No matter how small, how big, plant some tree, some plants, flowers. If you can do the two things besides everything you're doing, you can make big change for yourself, for your life, for the world. And that's the simplest message I want to share. I think the most direct, profound message for me, I choose to do.
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C
Ming Tung, thank you again so much for being here. And I appreciate not only the work that you're doing, but everything you're doing to help awaken this planet. So I appreciate you my friend. Thank you again.
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B
Thank you. Thank you so much. Much love for everyone.
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C
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