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Nice.
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Every major network, every major person. And Drew, me, you, and Billy as well. What a cool day. And really looking forward to what's to come.
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Yeah, we're just getting started and I've already had the time of my life. I mean, we haven't even been here 24 hours. And if we just got on a plane right now and went home, I would be like, that trip was amazing. That was awesome. And we haven't even scratched the surface of what we're going to be doing yet. We haven't even been in the building that long.
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Yes, it has been. Well, let's just start with when we walked in the door. We walked in the door immediately and you said, I almost knocked Joe Flacco.
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I don't think.
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See, you were looking right. Joe was looking left. Neither one of you saw each other. And before we were 10 steps in the building, we almost had a collision with you and Joe Flacco. But it set the tone for the celebrity sightings we'd see every couple.
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Joe Flacco needs to watch himself.
C
You would have lost. He was a lot taller than I. I mean, I knew he is a lot tall. That's a big dude.
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Nice, handsome jawline.
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Yeah.
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His kids with him.
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So you almost trampled one of the.
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I was going to trample the kids, but Joe Flacco has to learn this Is NFL cover zero, right?
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Yeah.
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You're locked in.
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He may be a Super bowl champion, but we are on the podcast, walking around.
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Have you seen a Joe Flacco set? No, but I've seen a Cover 0 set. So you're in our world, Joe.
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Exactly. Right now we're sitting here, and we're kind of looking out of. Onto the. To the world, you just said. Just to give you an example of what you might see here, like you were just saying that. Was Sha Merryman out?
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I hit him with the dance.
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There's a Buffalo Bills. That. That's probably a Bills player, I would assume. Stevie Johnson. Stevie got loose. Stevie got loose in the building. He's here. He got loose. Can you gotta pop off for a second, Stevie. Wild Cats. Go Cats. What's up, bud? Joining us out of nowhere, the man, the myth, the Kentucky, and the Buffalo Bills legend, Stevie Johnson. My man. Stevie got loose. How you doing, guys?
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My guys. Hey.
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I love it.
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I love. I saw the wings up, I saw the blue cap, and I was like, nah, it's got to be family. So I love it that we got to connect right here.
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You have to understand Drew. Drew knows this. This dude. Oh, is it the most famous catch in modern UK football history?
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Stevie, just 24 hours ago, someone asked me, what's your favorite UK game of all time?
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They didn't say.
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B, Basketball, Football. He said, game. And I replied, stevie got loose as my number one.
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I think it's the best. I think it's the most exciting UK football moment of my lifetime.
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And mine's also. I mean, that sparked everything, you know, that sparked everything for the Lexington community, I would say, because, as you know, the year before, we got dominated by Louisville.
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Yes, they dominated, and they were big favorites coming into that game.
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Yeah, they were huge favorites. So we had a chip on our shoulder. You know, we had the community and commonwealth at our back, and, yeah, we. Stevie got loose.
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How did you get loose?
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Well, I actually seen it the play before, so the play before that, there was a penalty, I believe, and the guys wasn't covering me. The safety stayed on Jacob, Tammy, and we ran four verts, and I went back to the house, said, dre, it's there. Just look at me. I'm telling you, it's there. So we got the penalty. Nobody was worried about the penalty.
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The penalty was on Jarman.
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No, not Jeremy.
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No.
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It was one of your offense. It was on Eric Scott. Yes.
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And nobody was up. Was upset at East Scott either, because he was protecting Dre.
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I was upset yeah, yeah, I know.
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Everybody else, but I mean, like, us on the team, in the huddle, we knew. We was like, oh, it's all good. And the playmakers, we knew. So then I, like I told you, I told Dre, we went back out there and they did the exact same coverage, and it was. It was money.
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That is the loudest I ever remember Commonwealth Stadium being.
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Oh, Stadium was shaking. I, I, I felt like it was. It was shaking. And the only time I felt that was my first hundred yard game against Arkansas with McFadden.
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And that was a great game, too. That was a great game. Now when you scored, we win the game. And then it has become like your thing in Lexington. Stevie got loose. It started from us because one of my drunk friends was in the parking lot and he goes, man, Jones, Stevie got loose. And then we just went with it.
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Yo, that's. That's amazing to hear that story and to be here with you all today, you know? Yeah, it's pretty special.
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There's one more thing you left behind, Alexa. Not just Stevie got loose before big games. I still turn on the locker room rap. It's about hustle and heart.
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Power, respect.
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There it is.
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Hustle and heart. Dedication is a must. If you ain't got that part, then your soul is weak. Meet for Wildcats. We about to get it popping like Joker from way back. It's way more than touchdown sacks and field goals, y'.
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All.
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We gotta study, do our work and live strong. UK will live on. But, yeah, we here. It's our turn. We about to take over for this year. Yeah, we got the whole town yelling big Blue. It's true. I've heard baby yelling this, too. Oh, boy. Uk, let's make some noise. Let's break these boys and have our crowd jump for joy. It ain't just about putting on this white and blue. If one fight, then we all start fighting, too. We like a crew. Better yet, call us a fam. There's no eyes on this team because we all the man now.
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Let's go right now. Let's play movable.
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It's ingrained. It's ingrained.
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Before you get out of here, I know you gotta go, but I also gotta say you got the ball to catch in the LSU game, too.
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Yeah, we don't even think about that.
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People don't think about over time.
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Yeah, and. And something interesting about that. So I had that same play the year before again in Death Valley, and Xenon stopped it, and he said, you ain't getting. And I couldn't say nothing. I couldn't say nothing.
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Like, respect.
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Y' all blowing us out. Ball thrown out of bounds. Year after I remembered that maybe that.
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Game he knocked, Dicky said hello to his friend, right?
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Shout out to 12. That's my guy. I'll be seeing him in a couple of weeks. He's coming out to San Diego, and I'm gonna let him hear this man. Big shout out to that Stevie.
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It's great to see you, man. Great to see you. You're looking great. Stevie Johnson just randomly popping in.
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Wings up.
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Stevie got loose.
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BBN for life. Hey, shout out Ray Davis, Dion and Mad Max out there in the Buffalo Bills. Let's go.
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Let's go. Completely random. Amazing. See, that's what happens on. On Radio Row. You can just see Stevie Johnson and he can rap like it was 2007. For those of you that are not Kentucky fans, you're going to be like, what in the world was that? Who cares? That was awesome. How happy I am.
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I'm not going to have a bucket list after this. We're just checking stuff off. Doing that halftime rap with Stevie Johnson that. That you remember those words. I sing it regularly. Like, to this day, I still sing it. That's why that was so cool, him doing it. Also, not to be weird, I have a frame picture of him in my office. You know, just a big Stevie Johnson fan. Let me picture him in the office. That game is number one on my every. They played at night. Saturday night. I started tailgating Friday at noon in the parking lot and went straight through tailgating all the way to that game. We get the ending we got against Louisville. For a Kentucky fan, Stevie getting loose, it doesn't get better than that.
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I hope people who are not UK fans enjoyed that. But if you didn't, I'm sorry. I don't care, because that made me so happy to see Steve. But our point was what Radio Row is. That's it right there. You got to hear it. Naturally.
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Yeah. Bill's legend. I'm sure a lot of NFL people know him, but we know I'm twofold with the Kentucky connection. You're wearing the UK hat, and from a distance, I saw him kind of glancing, and I hit him with his touchdown celebration, and he just sprinted over here. He knew we were legit.
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I don't think. I don't think he had time, Billy, to be here. But it didn't matter. He did it anyway.
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Well, he ripped off the buffalo hat, and then he had a Kentucky State hat, like, on already to ready to go.
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So that was great. So this is an awesome, awesome environment. Awesome place. You, we, there are. Literally everyone's there. Stephen A. Smith's doing his radio show right down there where we should probably pop in and say hello to him. I'm sure he'd want that.
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Well, he, I think he's waiting for us to get over there.
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We'll get there in a minute.
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Stephen A.
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We had the other Stevie. He's a lot better. No offense to you. Stephen A. So, so we're here for the next three days. We're going to be doing a Super bowl preview. Yeah, kind of. I mean, we're, we're excited about the super bowl, but we're gonna be talking to people today. Just today on the show we have a massive list of superstars coming on.
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Incredible.
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The fact that we're leading off with a two time super bowl winner with a Super bowl mvp. A Hall of Famer, gold jacket.
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Yes. Then Mike Golic, senior, and then Sean Alexander all joining the show today. That's a pretty good guess.
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Not small time names. I thought us being new, kind of, not kind of. The rookies around here still getting our feet underneath us. I thought they would just send us like the third string kicker from the Vikings.
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Yeah, no.
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Terrell Davis right out of the game.
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Big time players, Terrell Davis, Mike Golick and Sean Alexander. And so people understand, they come through. Now you're gonna hear because we're gonna leave this set we're on and by this set, this table that we're sitting.
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At, that Billy put together.
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Billy, did you put this table together?
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I, I got the equipment working on.
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The table and this equipment Billy has is from I think 2006. Okay. So you're going to hear this and you're going to be like, that sounds like 2006. But then we're going to be moving here in just a moment to another set, which is the official NFL set, where I'm going to guess the microphones sound better and the interviews sound crisper. But just so you know, it's almost like a metaphorical transition in life from us as podcasters to us as NFL hosts.
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In the emails we've been getting, they mentioned a set. One even said the chairs are comfy. I didn't know what it was gonna be branded with our names on the stage.
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I didn't know that Adam Levine was gonna be sitting over there. That's, that's Kelvin gemstone.
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They got two sets for us.
C
Adam Levine is Maroon 5, right?
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Did I say Adam Levine?
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Yeah, he could be here.
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Adam Devine, right? That's kind of like Adam Levine.
C
Maybe Adam Levine's here, too.
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I call him Kelvin Gemstone.
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Yeah, let's call him by his real name, Kelvin.
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I do think when I walked up to him and started and I said, I love your show is my favorite show. I'm not sure he thought.
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Knew.
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I think he thought I meant the.
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Workaholics with the word, the Hogs Crew.
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I was talking about the Righteous Gemstones because then I said, you know, Keith. And he looked at me like. But he still took a nice picture with us.
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I thought for sure you were going to sing a baby Billy verse to him. And I was so excited. I didn't know in that moment if you were ready.
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I will tell you, if Walton Goggins walked up here, we'd be misbehaving. I'd be running around. I'd be running around the house with a pickle in my mouth.
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That will get us kicked out of here.
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What?
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Terrell Davis and I are going to run around with the. With a pickle in our mouth. But so we are going to. We're going to do these interviews and then we will come back and sort of talk about the latest news and all that. So get ready, Terrell. David, there's. There's Sean Alexander. He's going to be coming back with us in just a few minutes. Terrell Davis, Mike Golick, and Sean Alexander. And then more as we are live here in San Francisco. Live to us, not to you. Listening. This is the NFL Cover Zero. Let's go ahead. Let's get started with TD.
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Foreign.
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Our first big guest of our week. Drew, we're ready to go. And how about starting with a Hall of Famer and a Super bowl champion, Terrell Davis, when I watched you run, I used to think, football seems to hurt. I don't want to play because if I had to hit that man, I would not be able to walk after. It is an honor to have you sitting here with us.
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Well, I appreciate it. I don't know what I did. Football does hurt.
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I mean, does it hurt now?
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It. Well, I am feeling a little. No, not a little bit. A lot of the. The impact. I am paying my dues now, but.
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You look like you still play. I have to say.
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No, I, I appreciate that. Thank you very much.
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And did you intentionally match Billy there with the quarter?
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Look at this, my man. What? But I think you. You got a nice. He has a nicer zipper on his.
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Well, his is reversible.
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Reversible.
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Too. We think that's kind of lame. Do you like the reversible thing, Terrell? You can decide.
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You can say no.
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It's all right. I mean, I like the two for one, brother. I like. I like. Shoot. I mean, you think about his packing, right? His packing is a little lighter, man. That's exactly one.
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I like that.
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That's exactly what he thought.
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I believe in, you know, buying clothes anyways. He has a waste of money, man.
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Waste of money.
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Clothes. Clothes is the number one. Food and clothes are the two biggest. Waste of money.
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Food is a waste of money.
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Big time.
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What would you use money for?
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Not food and clothes.
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So what?
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Travel.
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Okay? Travel.
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Texas. Right?
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But when you get there, you're not gonna eat.
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Golf.
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You're going naked. Not eating? No.
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Naked.
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Terrell Davis travels naked and doesn't eat.
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I don't need to eat. The problem with eating is you eat. So you eat right now. In two hours, you're gonna be. What?
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You're gonna have to eat again.
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Exactly. So what you do, just waste $400 on a. On some. On some. On a steak.
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That's an interesting theory. I mean, that's also true.
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You always have to keep feeding it. I know it. There is no content.
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It's like, that is kind of how.
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So you look up and you're like. To spend $6,000. I'm still hungry, by the way.
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That is kind of how all forms of life have sustained themselves over the years.
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I'm just saying, man, like, you really think about it. Food is the biggest waste of. Of money.
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I didn't have him going with the fasting take, but, you know, I support it.
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All right, Terrell, it's great to see you here. Do you. What do you think of. I mean, you played in these Super Bowls when you see something like this? What do you think of this entire media radio row experience?
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I love it. I love it, man. I see the Super Bowl 32 banner right there on the side. That brings back memories. I'm from San Diego in the plan. My first super bowl in San Diego. So that was. That was an experience that I just couldn't have dreamed of. And we won the game. Which when you ran the field for.
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That first game, I mean, there has to be a moment. Are you sitting there thinking about all the things that got you there, or are you just locked in totally on the game?
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You try.
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All right.
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They tell you that it's a normal game, or you try to. You try to convince yourself it's a normal game. But the minute you go out on pregame, you realize quickly this is not a normal game. And so you. What you try to do is. Is try to look for familiar things to bring your breathing down and just try to make yourself comfortable. So I was able to go out there and just like, hey, man, the field is still 100 yards. Like, start looking for things that I was familiar with. You know, they only have 11 guys on defense. Nothing's different about those things.
A
Once it starts, are you able to block all that out then?
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It's football. Yeah, once it starts. But it's the pregame because you see all the media credentials. You see, you know, the. The blimp. You see, like, I mean, the colors, the different. I mean, the sidelines are packed with, like, 40, 50 different national, you know, nations and TVs. So it's. It's. It's. And then celebrities are all over the place. You see it. And so then once you. You come between the lines, you try to remind yourself, all right, man, we've done this for, I don't know, what, 18 weeks, man, it's the same thing. Let's just. Let's just stay. Let's just stay in the moment and just look at this thing play by play and then worry about situations as they come up.
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Well, that moment worked out for you twice. And once you were the mvp. How much now, further on in life, does being a Super bowl champion and that honor kind of take on your identity and really be who you are? Does that carry with you being the super bowl champ? Can you add another.
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Another layer?
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Nobody cares. My kids don't care. So. So here's.
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You're still a lame dad.
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Exactly.
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Matter what.
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So here's what I realized, that none of that stuff even matters, man. When you have kids and they get older.
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Yeah.
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And they don't respect you. They. They don't do things in the house that you ask them to do. They don't care that you have a gold jacket. They don't care.
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So if they don't clean up after themselves, you're not like, look, I won a Super bowl mvp. I played with John Elway, and I won the mvp.
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They don't get.
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They don't. They. They don't care.
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You're still.
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They don't care. I leave the house, man. I got people that, hey, great Superboy, mvp, td. Can we do this? I walk in them doors, and it's like, I have to try to establish. Establish myself as. As. You know, I have to build some credibility amongst them in the house, which Is weird. And so, and so the other thing too is like this time of the year, which is cool. And so like when they put a stat on tv, we're watching the super bowl or something, they might put up a stat that says, hey, you know, most rushing yards since Terrell Davis. Or they'll show a chart. And that's when I get a chance to be like, see, I told you guys. You see that right there? I will pause it, you know, take a picture of it, start saluting them.
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Teaching them to salute.
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But then they go like, dad. Well, you were no Derrick Henry. You know what? Derek Henry would have kicked your tail.
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Yeah, like when Saquon broke my record last year. Yeah, they were giving me some trouble.
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NFL's changed since you were in the league just in terms of how offensives, offenses run. Like, I mean it is a lot more fast paced, a lot more throwing. What do you think a player like you, if you played today, how does that go?
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It wouldn't have benefited me today.
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It would not have.
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No. I wouldn't have had a, I wouldn't have had an opportunity really to carve my niche in today's football. And let me explain. They don't. The run game is, is in a very, it's a, it is a very expensive thing to have time wise, you know, commitment, you know, resources to the running game. And you don't. You need to hit, you need to, you need to physically go out there and hit. You need to be able to see timing and mesh points and stuff. The league only you have a limited amount of practices, a limited amount of padded practices. You, you have to simulate things. You have to do walk through when you have a run game. And that's not how it, we built a running game.
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I like that you though, I, I appreciate that about you. That you're actually like honest and going, look, my style was for my era.
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Yeah.
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And this is a different era. I feel like you would have found a way to get yourself on the field though, and contribute.
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Yeah, I'm a football player.
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Yeah, you were. You would.
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I'm gonna find a way to. But it wouldn't have been as a scat back. I might have been, I don't know, safety, a defense.
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I could have been Derrick Henry. Now let me ask you about the other td.com.
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Yeah.
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You always, when you were playing, people say TD touchdown. Terrell. Terrell Davis. What about this T? This is sort of a disorder, an issue that you have strong feelings about.
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I do, man. It's. It's called Tardive Dyskinesia. And what it is, it's. It's basically a chronic condition that is caused by taking certain prescription mental health medications. And so normally it's like antipsychotic or antidepressant that can cause really uncontrollable movements in your face, your hands, your toes, and your torso. And so you're trying to treat one thing and you're getting this sort of, you know, condition that's coming, and a lot of people don't even know it. And so for me, I've. I've experienced my own mental health and chronic conditions. I know for me, medication was an option. And so I can imagine being there and having these movements and not knowing what to do. So I just want to raise awareness, use my platform and raise awareness to people who. Out there who are experiencing this condition while taking certain prescription mental health medication. And if that's the case, please go to theothertd.com or consult your healthcare. Healthcare professional.
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What's. How do I pronounce the td?
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Tardive.
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Tardive.
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Tardive. Dyskinesia.
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Dyskinesia. Well done.
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Yeah.
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Terrell, you've been a lot of fun, and I have to tell you, you're the first person I've ever met to take the position of, I want no food. I don't think we need it.
B
I said. Nobody said I want food. I want food.
A
But you don't want to pay for it.
B
No, no, no, that's not true. What I'm saying is I'll take. All right, for example, I'll go to Chipotle and get a $13 bowl while you go across the street and pay $200 for a meal.
A
So you're at the Chipotle.
B
We are both going to be full, and in two hours, we both are going to be hungry. Right?
A
Okay, that makes sense.
B
200 bucks.
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I spent $13, so you're gonna spend the 13. You damn right. That's my man. Spending the $13. Terrell Davis, thank you very much.
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Foreign.
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I'm a sucker for people who know radio. And when you think radio, this man is it. Mike Golick does shows, has done shows for years, and is a radio pro. Mike, thank you very much for joining us.
D
Oh, my pleasure. It's a. Is that a nice way of saying I'm old?
A
No. Well, let me tell you. And I have a history, so I. I've worked at ESPN Radio for eight years. First day they flew me up to Bristol. I do Sunday mornings, right? I Used to do it with my. I do it with Meyer Metcalf. Used to do it with Dan Orlofsky.
B
Oh, okay.
A
They would put us in your old Mike and Mike studio.
D
Okay.
A
First day I get there, I sit down and as soon as I sit there, the chair breaks. Like as soon as I sit down and it's the chair you usually would sit in.
D
I thought you were gonna say there was like a half eaten donut there or something.
A
No. Although I did sometimes see your leftover food there. But I would sit in your chair on Sunday mornings. And when that chair kind of broke, they were like, Mike's not gonna like that. And I was, I go, well, do you want me to. I got freaked out because it was my first day at espn. I was like, I don't want to upset Mike.
D
What are they trying to put the fear of God.
A
I think they were, I think they were messing with me. So I've always had that. I broke Mike Golick's chair on the mic and Mike said, I wondered why.
D
It never really worked after all right.
C
You can break that chair right there.
A
If you want to get in and.
C
Smash that on the ground.
A
We were talking about this the other day. You did morning radio 6 to 10, is that right? How did you get up like that every day?
D
I swore every morning the alarm went off at 4:15 and I said a bad word and then I would get to work by 5. And you know, as you guys know, the day just starts. You know, you're looking at notes, you're, you're going over highlights, you're, you're getting ready for the. Especially when the show went on TV as well and you had to deal with highlights as well. You just start to get caught up in it. And the great thing was, was I was done at the show, was done at 10, I was done for the day at 11 o'. Clock.
A
What times you have to go to bed though?
D
And you had to go to bed early. And watching Monday Night Football was tough. I would get up the next morning and watch the compressed highlights of it to try and get caught up because you'd have to go to bed early. But it did give me the opportunity to be a lunch dad at my kids school and coach them in all their little league stuff, which was like in the late afternoon and I was home by 11 o' clock every day. So there were some pros, but the cons is I lost out on about 10 years of sleep.
A
The thing, we get this list, Mike, of all the people that are going to be here that we're going to be interviewing and our man Billy next there. He got the most excited when he saw Mike Gold. He really did.
D
He was like, was it me or for my son Mike?
F
No, no, for you, for you. It was you I was listening to in the mornings. I was working on golf course.
A
When you were a kid.
F
Yeah, when I was a kid, yeah. You're doing Mike and Mike.
A
See, I wasn't going to do that to, he's doing it to you how you, you were like, you were like seven, right?
F
No, no, I was like 15. 16 is my first job. I was mowing rough at a golf course and I'd listen to Mike and.
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Mike because it was an early job.
F
So you had to get up.
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So it, it's a pinch me moment.
B
To be here with you, Mike.
D
Oh, I appreciate that.
F
But I want to ask you how rewarding was it to be to do this with your son for him to get in the industry?
A
I mean, was that a, mean a lot to you?
D
It's very.
A
Yes.
D
Yeah. I probably would not be doing the show every day if, unless it was with my son. I'd probably do and be more, more part time stuff. Calling games for Westwood One, which I've been doing for a few years. But I, I, I try not to take it for granted that when the mic goes on, it's my kid there and we're doing the show together. I would like him to respect me a little more and bend at the knee.
A
Do you all fight a lot?
D
But, but we, we disagree more than I thought. He has, oddly enough, he has his own thoughts and he expresses them well.
A
I mean you're used to that. No, I am. You and Greenberg sometimes did that as well.
D
And it's, and I live by the same credo I did, did with Green and actually Tony Bruno was the first co host I had is if you disagree with something on air, you never take it off air. Okay. That's the same thing with my son. We could disagree with things on air but there's no reason to take it off air.
A
I didn't know you worked with Tony Bruno.
D
Tony Bruno was actually the first one at ESPN Radio.
A
You should tell that guy to have an opinion now. He doesn't know.
D
He struggles, doesn't he? I was working with him for a year. I showed up one day and he was gone and I'm like, oh my God, what do I do now?
A
He was just gone. He was gone and they didn't tell you?
D
No. Oh, he, he didn't tell espn.
A
Oh, he just left.
D
He just left. He was gone. And that was in October of 99. It took three months of me working with, with potential new co host before it was Greenie. Yeah.
A
All right, so let's talk about this football game. You got Seahawks, Patriots. I've said that you don't see stories like Sam Darnold in football. I wonder if Sam Darnold story says, hey, there's a lot of guys that could be good if they got with the right team out of, out of.
D
College and if they got a chance. One of the reasons he is where he is, because he was the number three pick overall, you are always going to get a chance somewhere. If he was a fifth rounder, he'd have been done. He'd have been out of the league once he failed at a couple of spots, he'd have been, he'd have had to have another job. But when you're a high pick because that money was invested in you, you're going to get a chance somewhere. And to his credit, he is, he has overcome and he is playing extremely good ball.
C
And on the other side with New England, there's another throwaway. I'm a Titans fan and seeing Mike Vrabel success is killing me. How bad did we mess up in Tennessee?
D
Oh, you messed up that.
A
Yeah, I know.
C
I'm wearing Titan shirt right now.
A
It hurts me. Just.
C
Mike Vrabel is my peloton name. It's bike variable. I love Mike Vrabel so much.
A
Peloton name is bike Variable.
C
I'm so conflicted.
B
All right.
D
I'm a little scared.
C
His happiness and my, my Titan sadness.
A
Yeah.
C
Because I, I mean, I'm, I want him to do well, but I know we, we messed up bad.
D
Yeah. Yeah. There's like Variable, you know, there's. I know. I'm a little worried about it.
C
All right. People think I'm him, actually. He's got terrible stats on there.
D
Yeah. A four minute run. I, I'm amazed at the lack of patience. Obviously not like a Pittsburgh Steelers or Baltimore with the two coaches they lost at 19 and 18 years. But it does amaze me how quickly you give up and think the grass is going to be greener somewhere else. Sometimes it is, right? Sometimes guys get a head coaching job and they're not supposed to be head coaches, but he clearly is a head.
A
Coach with this game. I mean, it seems like most people just assume the Seahawks are going to win. You know, the Patriots, I think they have a very good shot and I think Drake May has not played well in the playoffs, but had such a great season. I could totally see. I think people are too quick to dismiss their chances, don't you?
D
Well, I mean, he just has to hang on to the ball. Too many fumbles. He had fumbles in the regular season as well. He runs the ball well. I called the Denver New England game where the second half became a muted offense because of the snow, and he did. He basically won it with his legs. Was very impressive with his legs as far as throwing the ball. He's got obviously Stefan Diggs, Hunter Henry. But I. I don't worry as much about him as I praise the Seattle defense. The Seattle defense is stifling. They are they. But now remember, this New England offense averaged about 29 points a game during the regular season. They have the ability to score, but they need a rock fight here. They. They need it to be a low scoring game. And their defense needs to step up as well, which is a very good defense, by the way. In New England, they get short changed a little bit in the postseason because New England faced some more. Some of the top defenses in the postseason.
A
We're obviously here on podcast, but I do want you to talk for a second about you doing live radio four hours a day. In my opinion, that's the hardest thing to do in sports. To sit there because you can't, like, hide.
D
No.
A
You know what I mean? You can't, like, throw the graphics.
D
No.
A
Like, it is. You just have to go. And if there's nothing to talk about, you got to talk anyway.
D
Yeah. Oh, yeah. There are. Especially out of the football season, as you guys would know, it gets a little more difficult. June, July can be a little difficult. That's when you start to do Mount Rushmore lists.
A
Oh, my goodness. You know, a million of those. Yeah.
D
Yeah.
A
You miss Bristol?
D
No, I don't really miss Bristol. I miss ESPN and the setup there, but I don't really miss Bristol. But to your point, it can be damning when you have a guest and the guest flakes on you.
A
Oh, my God. Or when you have a guest, they don't have anything to say.
D
And they have nothing to say. It's exactly right. And especially for four hours. You're looking. There are many days, listen, I did it for so long. Where you look at your watch and you're going, oh, my God, I got.
A
Three and a half hours doing a show with one person four hours a day. Is it like a marriage?
D
Well, I mean, you have to have a connection. You have to have Chemistry. And Greenie and I had it right, right out of the gate. We had really good chemistry. Yeah, there has to be that. There has to be. It's kind of like, it's kind of like in the booth doing do a game, TV or radio. You got to kind of have chemistry with the play by play guy. And to make it more conversational, like, and not just you talk, you talk, you talk, you talk. Same in radio. It can't just be the one person talking, then the next person talk. You have to be in a room.
A
I did my first play by play game this year for ESPN radio.
D
Dude, it's hard, isn't it? Oh yeah.
A
I thought you all, I thought all you all were idiots that did it. I'm like, how are these people? Oh man, it's the hardest thing I've ever done. Now you're here on behalf of Stello.
B
Tell me about that.
D
Yeah, so I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes 20 years ago. And back then you basically ate your meal, pricked your finger with a blood test and decided, saw what your numbers were and tried to go from there. Now it's modern technology. Stello is a glucose bio sensor that you put on your arm. You can get it over the counter, you don't need a prescription for it, and get it off Amazon and you have an app with it and it gives you real time numbers of how you're doing. You know, how sleep affects your glucose levels, how workouts do, how food does. And now in a couple of months, they're coming up with a smart food logging. You're going to be able to take a picture of your meal and it will give you all the info on your meal so you know how many carbs you have, how many sugars.
A
Take a picture. Take a picture and it'll tell you how good or bad it is for you.
D
It'll tell you, give you.
A
I can't do that. That would make me sad.
D
I know, but for. I know, but it also help you eat, right?
A
That's right.
D
No. So again, Celo is for type 2 diabetics pre diabetes. And just those that are in the wellness center want to know, feel, want to know what their numbers are. Now you get up to the up to the date numbers.
A
You look great.
D
I feel great.
A
I know for football players sometimes it's hard because when you get done, you're used to all that working out, you can't eat the same.
D
And I did eat the same for a while and I ballooned up to almost 320. I looked like a vanilla milkshake. It was horrible. And then a few years after I was done playing, I was diagnosed with type 2 and I knew I had to change my ways. My eating and Stello and the.
A
And now. Do you just, like, walk around with your shirt off like you look at me?
D
Not, not yet. I would love to be able to walk around with no shirt on, but I can't do that just yet. I don't know if I'll ever be able to do that.
A
Well, Billy just did it around here a few minutes.
C
Next year, Super Bowl 61, we'll be looking for it.
A
Mike, thank you very much for your.
D
Time, and we appreciate it. You got it.
A
So there you go. Three big time interviews.
B
Drew.
A
I'm kind of surprised, like, how easy it is to. To talk to those guys. We're off the main set now.
D
They've.
A
They've, they've. They've kicked us off for another show.
C
We're back to Billy set.
A
We're back to Billy set. I don't know what the sound differential is, but you can, you can tell. We're now back to 2006, and I enjoyed it. I really like Sean Alexander a lot.
C
Yeah, he was great.
A
Really.
C
Not that I expect anyone to be jerks, but everyone was like, so nice. Like, I didn't think anyone were going to be rude, but they're over the top nice. Like, even when we're done, they don't just run off and go to the next one. You know, they have a busy day. Everyone has stayed around, chat a little bit. Even starting with td. TD in the beginning. I'll call him.
B
I've.
C
I had a blast talking to all of them. Wish we could have had more time.
F
TD and the qz. I mean, that was the best way to start it for me.
A
TD and the what?
F
The qz, the quarter zip.
A
Don't try to be.
C
I will say it was pretty funny that we.
A
Don't try. Don't try to start. Don't try to start.
C
Hold on.
A
Are you serious?
F
There it is.
A
Don't try to start. Slogans, Billy, like TD with the qz.
F
I need to know what happened with td. Tony Dungey and Drew Franklin.
A
Okay, so there's a couple interactions we need to go over. First of all, I've had two that I'll remember forever. Let's start with. Let's start. Start with Drew and Tony Duny. So Tony Duny grabbed you by the jacket and pulled on you and seemed to want your attention. And I watched this happen and I thought why does Tony Duny want to talk to Drew?
C
And I was on an elevated surface. I was up on the stage.
A
He pulled at his jacket like a little child asking for candy. He pulled at his jacket and was like. And then he didn't know who you were, because when you turned around, the look of disappointment on his face.
C
That's my favorite part.
A
That had to hurt.
B
Yeah.
C
Well, I was actually talking to.
A
Who's that person right there? He's famous. The guy with the face right there? Yeah. I think he's a reporter, but what's his name? He's famous. I need to stop looking at him. All right, go ahead.
C
No, well, I was. I was talking. I was already in a celebrity interaction with Will Compton. And he goes, tony Dungy wants your attention. And I was like, tony Compton said that? Yeah, Tony. Tony, John is pulling on my shirt. And when I turned around, Tony's face was mortified, like, I do not know this human.
B
Yeah.
A
It was clear. He thought I was someone else. He thought you were someone else? And then he was like, but I've been tugging on this stranger.
C
Committed.
A
Tony Dungeon was. Was shirt committed. At that point, I was like, get off me, Tony.
C
What can we possibly talk about? And then when we made eye contact, he's like, you'd seen a ghost.
A
He's tugging Tony.
D
He's never.
C
He's like, I've never seen this human ever. And I have nothing to say to him.
A
Tugging. Tony will forever be known as the guy who tugged on Drew, hoping to get his attention.
B
You know what?
C
You probably thought I was Jeff Saturday. I get it a lot. Former player.
A
I should have gone with it. He did that. You know what?
F
That's what I was.
A
But you're not.
C
Jeff's lost a lot of weight. Well, no, no, not lineman big. But I was on an elevated surface.
A
He thought you were Jeff Saturday. That's exactly who he thought he was. Tugging. Tony thought you were Jeff Saturday.
C
The only thing I can come up with, because he was definitely wanting to have a conversation.
A
Then the next thing that happened, I was there for this as well. We went to the restroom, as people do break here, and Drew. Drew. I saw Derek Henry walked in the restroom. So the only three people at the urinals were me, Drew, and Derek Henry. And I could see on Drew's face that he wanted to talk to Derek Henry. Derek Henry is like his. Yeah. Is he your favorite player of all time? It's McNaught Nair. And then him, right?
C
Yeah, that'd probably be it. And I knew he was in the building, so I've been. Since we've walked in, I've been looking everywhere. I did not think we would be touching. Elbows at the urinal would be the.
A
Moment Drew's face, him being like, I want to talk to Derrick Henry, but I'm not sure I can with urinal things happening.
F
Yeah, that's the one.
A
And you didn't. Do you regret it?
C
First of all, I gotta paint the scene. There were seven, eight urinals, most of them open. I still don't know why he was directly next to me. In hindsight, what made him walk to the one?
A
I mean, because he wanted you to.
C
Talk to him, but there wasn't a gap urinal between us. I mean, we were basically just stating.
A
Well, we were being together. Eric Hendry wanted you. He was hoping to have a conversation.
C
I wish there had been a reaction, action or a camera on me, because at first I was like, why is this guy up on me? And I kind of just glanced to.
A
My left just one second. Who are these two gentlemen in Bounty sweaters?
F
That is, I believe, Amon Ross St. Brown and Panay Sewell.
A
Yeah, but why are they wearing. Why are they wearing Bounty Mr. Rogers sweaters?
C
Because when Bounty says, wear this and pay you, I'm sure they'd wear whatever.
A
So that's a Mon Saint Brown and. And Penne Soul.
C
Definitely same brown. I believe it's Penne.
A
How do you recognize Penne Soul? Yeah, how many offensive linemen do you recognize by face?
F
Not a lot, but he's a very. I mean, he's. He was taken. I mean, they took Jamar Chase ahead of him, so it was, like, a big thing, wasn't it?
A
And they're Bounty wingman, by the way. Bounty is the biggest sponsor here. Bounty is the number one sponsor. I didn't know toilet paper had this level of sponsorship, but they do. I prefer Bounty, by the way.
C
I thought the NFL and bounties were past that, but they're brought back cleaning up their image.
A
Oh, stop. All right, so back to. Back to the urinal.
C
Yeah. I mean, it was really a moment where I'm like, why is this guy up on me? This is an empty bathroom, and his, like, elbow is hitting my elbow. And, you know, I kind of just look to my left. Not down at an angle, up at an angle, and say, oh, my God, this is Derek Henry. And just straight down, stare at the wall.
D
Don't move.
C
I cannot have a conversation in that moment. You understand?
A
I think you. I think this was the ch it would have been weird. But I think it's sad that this is like your favorite player and you did not speak to him when you had a chance. But granted it would have been weird. It is weird to have conversations in that.
C
This is a gigantic convention center. There's about 5ft of area where I cannot speak to Derek Henry and that's where we met. I can't change that.
A
You could talk to him anywhere except the urinal.
C
Stared at the brick wall wondering what life.
A
Fair point. That's a really good point. That's probably the only place you can't talk to him. But this has been lots of celebrity interaction. Who do you think has been the most random person you've run into here?
C
You know, I like seeing the. Because it's mostly athletes. I'm not used to it yet because I'm still wide eyed looking around. But I like seeing some of the celebrities that I didn't expect. Like the workaholics crew that's across from us. So not that I'm not enjoying the athletes, but the random celebrities that I didn't expect to run into. It's been neat seeing them.
A
I also enjoy and I'm not going to mention them, I enjoy Billy. The people that are walking around hoping someone will ask them to come for an interview and then people don't. I get a little bit of. I find that interesting as well.
F
Like you feel bad for them.
A
I mean I don't feel bad. It's just like, I don't know. There are levels of media. So we're on the outside. This is like the national media. Then there's local media. I feel like a lot of them should go in there because there are some people here. There are people from all over the country. There's like radio stations. I'm amazed at how many people make the trip and come out here.
C
Well, that sets up another story we have to tell your boy Bill over here. Oh yeah, Bill went and met the Bucks guy.
F
Well, one of them, my hometown station WDAE is here. And so I went and said hi.
A
Did you go ask for a job?
F
I did not because.
C
Even better though.
F
So I was like, yeah, let's exchange contact. Big fan, you know, whatever. And he pulled out his own digital.
A
Card for people who are cover zero listeners only. You don't know that Billy has decided to be create a digital business card for this trip because I think he's trying to get other jobs. And he gave you a digital business?
F
No, we both had one.
C
He reverse uno'd you with Your. With your business?
F
He had his own, and, I mean, he works for iHeart. And he was like, yeah, I heart's just been. Everybody has to have their own digital business card. I was like, that's is not the case.
A
I heart requires that.
F
That's what he was saying.
A
Well, they never.
C
I'm not going up to somebody saying, scan this QR code. There's so many creepy things that could be done with that.
A
So did you all share info?
F
We did, yes.
A
I thought you said it didn't work.
C
It didn't work.
F
I had to go back over there.
E
His.
A
Oh, you went back.
F
I went back.
A
You went back for a second.
F
I was like, dude, it didn't work. Which is funny because they've been dogging me.
A
You went back for a second scan? Yeah, and this time it worked.
F
It worked this time.
A
Well, good for you, Billy.
F
So we're gonna, you know, go meet some more people after this. I mean, I don't. Who knows who we're gonna see.
C
I'm with you. I'm starting to see a lot of media faces that I know, but I can't put a name.
A
Yeah, you laughed. I'm staring at that guy.
C
Well, now this one with the glasses in the. In the.
A
I mean, yeah, that's a. That's.
C
That's a person, too.
F
Oh, that's Andrew from the Nan Patrick Show.
A
He's.
F
He's gone on and done his own thing, and it's Andrew and a chick. I forget her name.
C
I couldn't have produced that.
A
But Andrew.
D
What?
F
Pearl noss per.
E
No.
A
What does he do?
F
He was on the Dan Patrick show. He's one of the danettes. And now he's got his own show.
A
Oh, now he has his own show. Billy's dream right there. That's who he needs to go. Yeah, go give him your.
C
Go give him your QR code.
A
That's his idol. The guy who leaves the day, man, and goes and does his own show. That's Billy's idol. You need to go meet him.
C
It's like the bad boy club over there.
A
I actually think I follow that guy on Twitter and I see his face. I don't know why, but I think I do. Well, it has been an excellent first day here. I want to thank the folks at the NFL, not Heart Radio, for setting it up for us. We still got two more days. We will be here tomorrow and Friday, so I hope all of you will continue to tune in and join us, share. Like all the things people do on the podcast and as we get you ready. We are just a few days away from Super Bowl 60 here in San Francisco. This has been NFL cover zero foreign. Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcast. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. This is an iHeart podcast.
B
Guaranteed Human.
Podcast: NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin
Date: February 5, 2026
Episode: Radio Row Day 1
Hosts: Matt Jones, Drew Franklin
Summary by: [Your Summarizer Name]
Day 1 of Super Bowl 60’s Radio Row brings Matt and Drew, long-time friends and football fans, into the epicenter of NFL media madness. They recount behind-the-scenes moments, swap surreal celebrity run-ins, and host lively interviews with legendary guests: Kentucky/Bills receiver Steve Johnson, Hall of Fame running back Terrell Davis, and veteran broadcaster Mike Golic Sr. The episode overflows with genuine fan enthusiasm, Kentucky football nostalgia, candid football insights, and playful banter—perfect for fans who love both the game and the culture around it.
Sense of Arrival:
The hosts are in awe, noting the surreal feeling of broadcasting from the heart of Super Bowl week, among celebrities and media from around the world.
Star Sightings:
They mention nearly bumping into Joe Flacco, seeing media personalities, and running into unexpected celebrities.
Running Jokes:
Light-hearted teasing about the pecking order on Radio Row—“You may be a Super Bowl champion, Joe Flacco, but we are on the podcast, walking around!”* (Matt, 02:38)
UK Football Nostalgia:
The excitement is palpable as Kentucky and Bills legend Steve Johnson spots the group’s Wildcats gear and leaps into a joyous revisit of his legendary “Stevie got loose” play.
Breakdown of Iconic Play:
Steve recounts the details and emotions of his iconic touchdown against Louisville, revealing behind-the-scenes thinking and team chemistry (04:26-05:10).
Locker Room Rap Revival:
Everyone gets amped as Stevie performs his “locker room rap” from his UK days, delighting both nostalgic fans and first-timers:
Celebrating the Moment:
Hosts revel in the moment, sharing how much that play and player meant to them personally and to the Kentucky football community.
[Starts at 13:12]
On the Physical Toll of Football:
Super Bowl Memories:
Terrell reflects on the difference between regular games and the Super Bowl, the pregame nerves, and focusing amid the overwhelming spectacle.
Identity After Football:
He hilariously notes how little his Super Bowl MVP and gold jacket impress his kids.
Running Backs in Today's NFL:
Davis thoughtfully explains why his style wouldn’t flourish in today’s pass-first league but reflects on how he’d find a role regardless.
Advocacy & Health:
Terrell promotes awareness of Tardive Dyskinesia (“the other TD”), describing the condition and encouraging anyone experiencing symptoms from mental health meds to seek help.
Food Philosophy (Humor):
The segment ends with a playful debate about the value of spending on food, with Davis joking:
[Starts at 22:25]
Radio Anecdotes:
Mike Golic shares self-deprecating and humorous stories from his Mike & Mike days, including breaking chairs, early-morning routines, and parenting:
Working with His Son:
NFL Conversations:
Golic discusses the benefit of pedigree and patience in NFL quarterback careers, specifically citing Sam Darnold, and bemoans the lack of patience with coaches:
Super Bowl Preview:
Analysis and expectations for the Seahawks vs. Patriots matchup, focusing on defense and New England's under-appreciated postseason run.
On Radio Chops:
A candid look at the difficulty and chemistry needed for daily four-hour radio shows, the struggles of slow news days, and staying sharp on-air.
Personal Health & Advocacy:
Golic opens up about his 20 years with type 2 diabetes and advocates for Stello, a modern glucose biosensor for managing the condition.
Kindness of Guests:
Hosts are pleasantly surprised that all their big-name guests are both generous with their time and friendly, staying to chat even after the mics are off (34:39-34:56).
Celebrity Encounters:
Media Madcap:
Sightings of everyone from Adam Devine (or “Kelvin Gemstone”) to the Workaholics crew, and discussion about Bounty’s humorous sponsorship presence.
Networking & Dream Chasing:
Billy (producer) awkwardly navigates exchanging digital business cards with Tampa media, inspired by seeing other sidekicks-turned-hosts build their own shows.
This episode beautifully captures the thrill and camaraderie of Super Bowl Radio Row—a blend of fanboy joy, insider recollections, football analysis, and candid human moments. Matt and Drew’s chemistry with legends like Stevie Johnson, Terrell Davis, and Mike Golic Sr. will make listeners nostalgic for classic radio—and grateful for these rare inside glimpses.
[End of Summary]