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Matt Jones
NFL Cover 0 with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. Well, the championship games just finished and it is NFL Cover Zero. Matt Jones and Drew Franklin. All three, including Billy, snowed in in Lexington and Louisville, Kentucky. Not as much snow as they told us we were going to get. They told us we were going to get Zero snow. Or, excuse me, like a foot of. We got like six inches. I think Lexington only got like four. So it's a little disappointing. But now I wonder what a foot would look like, because you still can't move in Louisville, so. And there are obviously places in the country where it's even worse in Tennessee and Mississippi. So a lot of the country snowed in, iced in for these games today. Yeah.
Drew Franklin
Here in Lexington, we got the snow, then ice on top. I actually went outside to shovel my driveway, and it was just like a block of ice. So I just smacked it a few times and walked back in. It gave up. So pretty nasty here, even though it wasn't quite what you got. And then you saw a little bit of in Denver, too. It's pretty fun to watch that in the games today.
Matt Jones
Yeah, I'm, by the way, I am. I'm anti shoveling. I came to that conclusion today. No, I mean, everybody immediately wants to go shovel. Now, if you can't get out for whatever reason, then that's a different scenario. But explain to me why people always want to shovel. Why can't you just walk through it?
Drew Franklin
Well, I have a very steep driveway.
Matt Jones
Like, if I were one. I understand why you have to shovel. I understand that. But, like, people who shovel their sidewalk, why don't you just walk through the snow?
Drew Franklin
Billy, Taking care of your Amazon guy, your package deliverer?
Matt Jones
Well, that's. Okay. That's a good argument. Now, you know what? I didn't even think about that. That is, I don't have a shovel. So what do I.
Drew Franklin
That shocks us. That completely shocks us.
Matt Jones
I don't have a shovel. I have a one brush. I went outside and brushed all the snow off my car, but I actually don't know if that's a good idea because I feel like now it'll just ice up. But, yeah, I didn't think about the Amazon and the post office people.
Drew Franklin
Good point. You never know when somebody's gonna come ring the doorbell. Don't your neighbors come over and visit, check on you? You wanna give them a clear path.
Matt Jones
Why you should do it? Cause I do get packages. That's exactly why you should do it. And now I feel rude for not having thought about it.
Drew Franklin
It's okay. Nobody in my neighborhood has done it. I was the only one out there. So tough times right now. I don't even think Amazon's out in this mess that we got.
Matt Jones
Well, I saw. I have friends in Oxford, Mississippi, and it looks awful there. I mean, they got like two inches of ice you know the square, which is the center circle there? Trees are everywhere. You and I have walked through that many times. All those houses, like, all the trees are down. I think I saw three. 30,000 different places have power, and 29,500 of them are out. I don't know if the other 500 people are all taunting them, but it looks just. It looks miserable.
Drew Franklin
In Oxford, they got it bad there. In Mississippi, just a little farther north, Franklin, Tennessee, outside of Nashville, got wrecked. I have friends there with trees down everywhere. So even though we didn't get the Snowmageddon we thought we'd get in Kentucky, there's a lot of damage all over the eastern United States. Even if it wasn't what they were projecting originally.
Matt Jones
Well, we got to see some of that snow. First. Of all, these football games, I'm going to go on record, I hate to say this, because, you know, I'm. I'm obviously a big fan of National Football League. Not as much as Billy with his NFL hat, but I can't think of a Super bowl where I find the matchup less compelling, Drew, than this one.
Drew Franklin
I kind of agree with you. Even though I think they're both, you know, they deserve to be there. Obviously, it's not on paper. It's not the logos any of us really were counted on seeing. I wish I had known we were all complaining about seeing the Chiefs so much that to get the Chiefs out, it just be the Patriots again. Maybe I wouldn't have complained about being tired of the Chiefs, but it's like, oh, we finally get something different out of the afc, but it ends up being just the team it used to be. So you're. You're.
Matt Jones
I mean, first of all, bring on the Chiefs. The Chiefs games were never boring. You're right, Kelsey. Like, you're telling me you wouldn't want to see Chiefs vs. Seahawks rather than Patriot Seahawks?
Drew Franklin
Well, before the year, I was ready for, like, the Bills or Ravens to finally get a chance. Obviously, we didn't get that. And it's like, of all the teams to slide in and take the chief spot, when they finally get out of the way, it has to be Boston.
Matt Jones
Yeah. What's this? Don't know what they got till it's gone. Was that Dido?
Drew Franklin
No, no, that's graduation or something.
Matt Jones
Okay. No, he was paid paradise and put up a parking lot. Anyway, point. I want. I want the Chiefs back. I don't. I don't care. And I. I hate the Patriots because they're not even good. I mean, they have they? They didn't. No one should have won today. Both teams should have been required to quit. Like they should have advanced both the Seahawks and Rams to the Super Bowl Drew and made both of these teams go away.
Drew Franklin
I missed kickoff because I just didn't even realize it was 3 o' clock and it was here. That wouldn't have been the case if it had been a better matchup. And then to be a 107 game, it was. It let down all the way around
Matt Jones
and Jared Stidham comes out on fire, right. Like he proved he had two years worth of pent up energy but you know, like a person who had not eaten in a long time. He wore himself out really quick. And then you know, the game came down in my opinion to one play. You know, they decide to, they decide, they decide to go for it on that fourth down instead of going up 10 nothing and that backed fires on them. And then you know, if you're stid them, you cannot turn that ball over. You just can't. And they, they, the whole the thing was don't lose them the game and that, that intercept, I mean I think the game was oddly over at halftime, as crazy as that sounds.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. No one expected stood on to go out there and have four touchdowns and have MVP day. It was like just don't go out there and make a stupid mistake that we can point out when the game's over as to why we lost. And that fumble, I mean he's backpedaling. He had plenty of time to get rid of the ball. I had time to yell what are you doing? Before he even lost the ball. And that's exactly what happened.
Matt Jones
It's the only thing you can't do right there. Like it's the only thing you can do. Like the only, the only mistake that will really hurt you right there is fumbling. And that's what he does. And then you know, they get the kick blocked in the, in the fourth quarter but the wind was so bad and, and all that that I'm not sure that you know, you could count on the kickers.
Drew Franklin
Anyway, to your point about them not being very good, they've had more three and outs than scoring drives in the playoffs. The Patriots offense and they're in the
Matt Jones
super bowl and you know, they've had I think without question the easiest path. Now I've seen the contrarian view out there. It was started by Kay Adams, who I don't know but she seems like a delight. But like she came out and said, you could argue this is the hardest path ever, the fifth hardest defense, the best defense and the second best defense. Kay Adams hopefully will meet her at the Super Bowl. I'm going to tell her that that made me like her about 1/100th or less because that's ridiculous. That I mean these offenses. You're talking about Justin Herbert who looks scared and CJ Stroud and Jared Stidham was terrible. That doesn't know. I refuse to accept that argument.
Drew Franklin
Listen, I used to watch kay Adams at 7am every morning when she was still on NFL Network. I wish she was still on. Good football. I agree with you. That's a terrible take. Jared stood him in. The AFC Championship is not a. Not a tough task. Sure that defense was awesome. I mean the Broncos defense deserved to be in the super bowl. But when you're playing against a guy at that point in the playoffs, one step from the Super Bowl, a guy who hadn't thrown a pass in two years, I just can't get behind. That's a, that's a tough pass or tough road. I don't care if it is on the road in Denver.
Billy
To your point about the Chiefs, nine of the last 10 Super Bowls have been either with the Patriots or the Chiefs. Nine of the last.
Matt Jones
I think if I'm correct, you tell me if this is wrong. Billy. I believe that today was the first AFC championship game since like 1999 that did not have Mahomes, Brady or Manning.
Billy
Oh, I'd have to check that.
Drew Franklin
That is correct. I saw, I heard that or consumed that somewhere along the way this week. Which is sounds familiar.
Matt Jones
Which is an amazing statistic if you think about it. I mean that's 26, 27 years worth and you knew you'd have one of them. And today you came home, took your shirt off, put your feet up and got a little hot stid of May action. I don't know. I don't feel like that's quite the same thing.
Drew Franklin
The broadcast even matched the QB duel. I don't know if you all noticed this, but in the second half when it got snowy, they tried to add digital yard markers because you couldn't see them. Well, players would disappear under the yard markers. So like there was a punt and the pun returner just disappeared behind the 10 yard line, didn't know where he was. So I mean they were even botching trying to make the production that was
Matt Jones
technology that had not been tested enough in beta mode. And I also do think like with Sean Payton going back to not kicking that field goal, you know, they knew the blizzard was coming in the second half. So I feel like it's like a NASCAR race back in the day when they would like, you know, change the tires because at the halfway point if it rains the change is over and so they would like go, let's go real fast right now, don't get any gas, etc. Etc. In case it's going to rain. I feel like Sean Payton, he should have come for around a wedge and gotten four tires there in kick that field goal.
Drew Franklin
Definitely. I mean obviously now that it's 10 7, it's hunting but in the moment you've got to know weather's coming and Jared Steine was my quarterback and he completed a 52 yard pass and scored a touchdown. I don't know how much I'm going to have of that. I'm not saying it was luck, but I don't know if Sean Payton was thinking that there was going to be a lot more of those stood on throws ahead. But there were not and he should have taken those free points and what we could tell was going to be a low scoring game right away.
Billy
Do you think this is a game for why everybody has a dome 10, 15 years from now?
Matt Jones
Like first of all that's going to be, that's going to be a take. Those people should be prosecuted. If you had that game today and it wasn't Stidham May and it was Mahomes Allen, are you going to tell me the score is going to be 10 to 7? It's not because of the weather. The score was 10 to 7. It was because Drake May, he's going to make the super bowl and everybody's going to be excited about him and that's fine. He's played objectively poorly in these playoffs. He has. Now listen, they're winning because he's played better than the quarterbacks he's gone against and the New England defenses are great but he has been objectively bad and instead of hadn't, he played seven games in eight years. So I, I, I don't think you can blunt the snow obviously affects it but if you had great quarterbacks out there at the peak of their game, Drew, I think they would have put points up.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. Even before the snow came he wasn't looking that good. If I'm not mistaken, he completed less than 50% of his passes, didn't have a touchdown. Now he had three big runs and he had the touchdown run were great.
Matt Jones
I mean including the the bootleg at the end.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I'm watch a replay here that was a good one. And then yeah, I saw he didn't even tell his offensive line on the goal line run he was going to take it. So he made some big plays but as a passer he didn't do much today. That was part defense and you know, he hasn't, he hasn't looked great all playoffs even though they continue to win.
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Matt Jones
Back to your question about domes. I mean, this is what's going to happen in 40 years when someone is doing their own version. It's cover 0:40, you know, hosted by probably the kid that lives next door that wouldn't stop screaming today. The what's gonna happen with all these domes that get built is exactly what's going to what happened in baseball in the 70s when they built all those cookie cutter stadiums like Shea Stadium and Riverfront and there were like 15 of them across the country. They're like, oh, we want all these stadiums to be modern and look the same. And then they stunk and everybody and now pretty much all of them have been moved out of Same thing with nascar. When NASCAR got popular, they decided, oh, let's make it uniform, let's stop having short tracks and super, let's make everything a mile and a half. And then they realized that a mile and a half tracks are the most boring tracks you can have. And they basically now left all of them, including the Kentucky Speedway, sits empty because it was one of those mile and a half tracks. That's what's going to happen with these domes. The character of sports is the uniqueness of the stadium. And it's nice when there's a handful of domes, but when there are 20 domes or 25 domes, everyone is going to wish these games were outside. And that's going to happen. As Kansas City builds its dome and all of these places get their domes, everyone is going to wish that they were back outside.
Drew Franklin
It's like they all have the same blueprint right now too. I mean, the Titans that's going up right now, it looks just like some of the ones that recently built, like they just hired the same crew and had them come over and build the same building. I saw people on Twitter today saying, see this is why we needed domes. But, no, I mean, I didn't love the 107 game, but I'm not. I'm all in on keeping the open
Matt Jones
stadium without the snow. It would have been the most boring. It would have been even more. Imagine that game inside, right? Like, that's even more boring. At least the snow gave you something to look at.
Drew Franklin
And there wasn't really snow in the first half. It came on hard. It went from. If you took a long bathroom break, you went from clear skies in Denver to what the heck just happened?
Matt Jones
Yeah. So I hate it. I don't have to drive tomorrow because I'm snowed in, but normally on my drive to the radio show, I listen to Bill Simmons talk about the games. If I had to do that tomorrow, I don't know, I probably would come in and just start screaming at you, Drew and Ryan and Billy, like, I. I'm lucky. I'll probably just skip this episode because I don't want to hear him happy.
Drew Franklin
Don't you.
Matt Jones
That's. That's mean of me, but I know
Drew Franklin
you don't like the Patriots and you're not that impressed by Drake May. But do you find it all sweet that he went as a fan in that same stadium in Santa Clara to watch the Panthers, and now he's going back as a player? Isn't that football romantic? No.
Matt Jones
Okay, so I tried. That means he was rich. You don't go to the super bowl as a game unless you got some money. So, like, I'm supposed to somehow think it's romantic that he went and watched the Panthers? Now, if he had watched the Patriots in that stadium. Okay, he watched a different team in the stadium.
Drew Franklin
I will say, when they were telling that story during the game, they presented it like, well, he's only been to one. As a fan, I'm like, only one is a fan.
Matt Jones
How many.
Drew Franklin
How many fans get to go. Like, 1% of fans maybe get to
Matt Jones
go to a Super Bowl? If that. Yeah. I mean, that's like. And I'm sure this has happened. That's like somebody walking up the 18th and going, he only went to six masters, and one day he hoped he would be on the other. Like, oh, okay, well, what a beautiful story. So, no, I don't care.
Drew Franklin
And to cover my Masters gnome back here. Why did you say that? Let me cover that up.
Matt Jones
I mean, look, the Masters are great, but, you know, I mean, it's not. I'm much more interested in the kid who grew up on his public municipal course and then played in The Masters. That would be much more interesting to me. I'll be very excited. I'm excited to go. I'm excited for the pomp and the circumstance. Here's what I want to see the Super Bowl. I want to see Bad Bunny. I want to see Green Day. Because I didn't know they still. Oh, yeah.
Drew Franklin
60th anniversary celebration.
Matt Jones
The what anniversary.
Drew Franklin
They're playing the 60th anniversary celebration before the game. It's a big deal.
Matt Jones
It's an odd choice to pick them, right? I mean, what are they. What are they going to sing? Like? I want to be an American idiot.
Drew Franklin
I saw it's Green Day and legends from every generation of Super Bowls. So. Yeah, that's a good gift for them.
Matt Jones
Wait a minute. Oh, so the players are coming out.
Drew Franklin
It's some big celebration. Super Bowls. I don't know how Green Day got the pick for that. Of all the options, but I'm there for it. I'm ready for some dookie.
Matt Jones
I want to be the minority. And they're like, here is Jeff Hostetler and he waves at the crowd.
Drew Franklin
I hope we get Jeff Hostetler singing dookie on stage with. With Green Day.
Matt Jones
Well, they're gonna sing the song from Seinfeld, right? I hope you had the time of your life. Which is also something I forget. It's weird that that's what they're known for because, like, they're a punk band and they're known for like this like, graduation song, which I always find sort of odd. Right? Yeah.
Drew Franklin
Are they. What is the connection? Are they from. They're not from San Francisco. They're like, well, how did they. How did they get here?
Matt Jones
I think the connection is let's have someone that, oh, they are, in theory, edgy. But like, actually it's middle aged dads that listen to them now.
Drew Franklin
I was wrong. They are from San Francisco. I guess that helped them get the pay. This is how they. This is for anyone that doesn't like Bad Bunny here, have Green Day.
Matt Jones
Yeah, right. By the way, I'm excited about Bad Bunny.
Billy
I've been listening to Bad Bunny in preparation.
Matt Jones
Okay.
Billy
It's not bad, like, for not understanding any of the words.
Matt Jones
Like, see, that's what I think. You have to judge it on the I don't speak Spanish scale. Does it still keep your attention in that?
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Matt Jones
like that one. That one keeps my attention and so I like it. I hope he plays that one.
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Billy
There's one that's very sad and makes
Matt Jones
you go sad and it's in Spanish how, you know, it's sad.
Billy
I can, I can just tell through the emotion of this singing. So maybe down during the super bowl at one point.
Drew Franklin
You probably appreciate that compliment, but this is a nice thing to say about him.
Matt Jones
You can feel his emotions like Beethoven and, and Bad Bunny express their, their sadness just through melodic tones. All right, so then the afternoon or early evening, you get Seahawks, Rams, much more exciting game. Second half offense, you know, takes over. I thought Stafford played well. Sam Darnold. Gotta give Sam Darnold a ton of credit. I mean, that he, he's played well, he's had doubters. Well, first of all, he's had doubters his whole career because he earned them. And then he played really well in Minnesota and then collapsed at the end of the year. Everybody said, see, that's what Sam Darnold actually is. Comes back, does it, and actually, you know, meets the goals this year as a 1 seed. I actually do think he's a great story.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, definitely three touchdowns today. I mean, it helps having Jackson, Smith and Jigba on your team. That guy just gets open and makes plays. But Darnold deserves everything that's happening for him right now. I mean, the fact that he had a great season with the Vikings and they still threw him away for Billy's boy 9 JJ McCarthy. I know they were invested in McCarthy with a draft pick, but when you just saw Darnold have a good season and to let him walk. Eat it, Minnesota. And good for you, Sam Darnold. I don't love the matchup, as we said, but he deserves to be there and had a hell of a season
Matt Jones
when everybody had given up on him. It is true. And jig was great, but there's very few quarterbacks who are amazing who don't at least have one person like that. Like, you know, you think I heard Chris Mad Dog Russo and he was ranking the 10 best quarterbacks of all time. And normally on TV I find him impossible to watch, but he was actually interesting in this because he had a lot of historical perspective and there. And he was talking about how he is close to ranking Josh Allen because he's like, he's the only one that's even on this list that you can say had no one great as a receiver. And I think that's probably true. So I think Darnold, I'm not saying Darnold's nowhere close to that list, but it's, you know, having in jig, but he needs somebody like that and he is amazing. The routes he ran in the second
Drew Franklin
half were perfection and they were just so fun. I mean, they threw a few times late in the game when it's like, oh, I don't know if I would have thrown there when they were running out the clock and trying to keep the ball. A lot of running situations, some, Some risk play calling there. The, the McVeigh McDonald matchup. I mean, we've had three great games this season and they're both so young. Looks like they got a little fire on each side. This game did not disappoint. I thought the Rams were still going to pull it off. That Colby Parkinson drop was horrible. That was my touch.
Matt Jones
I mean, that will. He walks into the end zone if he catches that. I guess when the defender maybe blocked his vision a little bit when he came over. But it's a terrible. It's a terr. Terrible, terrible drop. And it was especially terrible because Stafford had run for a first down before that, which he. I bet he hasn't done since Georgia.
Drew Franklin
That was the slowest run. Luckily, he only needed a yard. He even could have pitched it to Kyron Williams. I'm surprised. He used his legs and he broke a tackle in slow motion. He even used his legs a few plays later when he got a little pitch out there, too. So it looked like we were about to have the MVP drive, game winning drive, and it just came up short. But a great game nonetheless.
Billy
And there was maybe the, the worst taunting call in NFL history. I mean, the Rams come, it bothered me.
Matt Jones
It bothered me live because I thought that was a bad call. And then I saw on the Internet a camera on him, and you can see he won't stop. He won't stop. The referee tells him to stop, he stops, and then he starts again. And so I think they call that. But I mean, the question is, do you call it on a fourth down like that? And I can understand the argument that you shouldn't, but I actually do think Billy, he did earn it. Although in real time, I was like you. I thought it was terrible.
Billy
No, I agree with you. I think they should have called it. But if the Rams would have came back and won that game, for them to get a first down on that fourth down, I think you would have looked back at that penalty as maybe one of the worst of all time when it comes to like.
Matt Jones
Oh, you mean worse in terms of it was bad of him to do. Yeah, yeah, no, I think that's fair. Drew, what did you think of that call?
Drew Franklin
I think he earned it. And then the very next play, he gives up a 47 yard touchdown. What a. He better be glad they won because what a two play sequence. I mean, they showed he was getting a fight with his own teammates afterwards. I also would have fought him. Like, dude, it was 4th and 12, and then a 47, 48 yard touchdown two plays apart. But luckily it held on. But that could have been an awful sequence for him if they had to pull that game off.
Matt Jones
I don't know that he could have played in Seattle anymore. No, that's one you don't. You maybe don't come back for.
Drew Franklin
The fans wouldn't let him back. Which brings me to my complaint about the fans. I don't like how they keep calling them 12. Did you. I don't know if y' all watch the postgame, but everything's just 12. 12. I know they call him the 12th man, but I heard 12 too many times today. It was wearing me out. Listen to how loud the Twelves are. Good for the Twelves. The Twelves are going back to the promised land. It's. It's a little much for me. With their branding of the Seattle fans.
Matt Jones
Well, I think that was true 15 years ago, but I feel like I watch a lot of Seattle games now and I don't feel like the environment seems that different than anywhere else. I remember I did think back in the Marshawn Lynch, Russell Wilson run that they did seemingly have a much louder crowd, but I have not felt that in recent years. So I don't know. You know, I don't know. I don't know if I buy Drew, to be honest.
Drew Franklin
And they're a good fan base. Not even a knock on them. It's like. It's almost like they were paid by how many times they said the twelves are getting loud today. It was really wearing me out. Like, sure, reference them a few times, but they. They were wearing me out with it.
Billy
Well, I'm Happy for Mike McDonald who revealed late, earlier last week that he only spends about 30 minutes with his son a week.
Matt Jones
Did you see that? No.
Drew Franklin
Yes. I have a.
Matt Jones
Hang on. I didn't hear this. What did he say?
Billy
Yeah, so he spends like Thursday afternoons with his family, and then he'll carve out about 30 minutes to spend some time with his son before he goes down in his man cave and grind more film. So he was saying earlier this week,
Drew Franklin
I have a theory on this too, about today's game. Yeah, I don't know if you all saw this, but Pre game, Sean McVay was holding his young son on the sideline and playing with him. I don't know if he always does that. I'm not always paying attention, but it felt a little intentional with all the Mike McDonald stories this week about only seen his son 30 minutes a week. Coincidentally, McVeigh is walking around holding his son at kickoff. Just I was watching that my my antennas were up. Looking at that might be a little bit of a Intentional.
Matt Jones
Yeah, that feels that, that feels pretty intentional. That's weird. I don't know how I missed that story. I don't know how much time you're supposed to spend with your son because I don't have a son and I I, I don't think I should spend time with other people. So so I don't really know what but it feels like whatever. It feels like it's better to say nothing than to say 30 minutes. I feel like if you're gonna I feel like you're gonna say, you either want to say I spend a lot of time with my family or I don't get to spend as much time as I would want. I don't think you should quantify 30 minutes.
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Matt Jones
All right, so now you got we get the Super Bowl May versus Darnold. Sam Darnold has a chance to ruin my longtime super bowl argument about how you can only win the super bowl either with a Hall of Famer or with a guy or rookie contract. Drake make of course could could be the guy on the rookie contract, but Sam Darnold's not gonna be a Hall of Famer and he's not on a rookie contract. He's been paid a lot of money so that he's got a chance to ruin my theory. They're four and a half point favorite. Do you like the Seahawks in a couple weeks?
Drew Franklin
I like them to win. I think the Patriots are going to give him a game. It's it opened at three and a half. That's like the worst lot ever. I hate three and a half. You just make it three. I'd probably take the Seahawks to cover just I think they're so balanced. I mean they don't have a star on the team. The Way they've been playing, they're good offensively, good defensively. I mean, excuse me, Jackson, Smith and Jigma is definitely a star, but for the most part they're just balanced across the board. I think they're the more complete team and they'll end up winning it.
Matt Jones
I'm going to go, I'm going to sound like a party pooper, but I don't feel like any of these teams, when they win it, it's going to feel like they're actually a Super Bowl. You know, I feel like when teams win the super bowl, it's usually a progression. Right. Like you watch a team and for a year or two they get to the playoffs but don't get to the super bowl. And you watch them develop into a team that can get there or, you know, they get to the promised land, don't quite get it, whatever. Both these teams come out of nowhere, really. Both these teams are basically brand new. The Patriots are brand new because they have a second year quarterback, the new coach. Seahawks are brand new. New coach and new quarterback. I just don't feel like either of these teams too. This is going to end up being like a, a title that's kind of like the Pistons in 04 with Tayshawn and all those guys where like you'll go, that just feels weird, you know? Yeah.
Drew Franklin
And you have throwaways on both sides. On one end you have a quarterback who just got told to kick rocks. The other side you have a coach that just to kick rocks. I mean, Vrabel is my team. Bless our hearts. Mike was run out of Nashville. Now he's in the Super Bowl.
Matt Jones
Sam Darnold was running to the Titans. Fans regret that.
Drew Franklin
Oh, absolutely. I mean, for him to be there in year one, what just added to the list of things that look bad for the Titans. But this has to be at the top of that list now for him to go from fire to the gym, running him out of there to in year one, he takes a four win team to the Super Bowl. But it's just either side you have someone that another team had and just kicked out and now they're going to
Matt Jones
have a ring on their finger. A couple, either one of these teams like, like you need to win. Because I don't feel like either one of these teams are like set up to have years of this. You know what I mean? Like, I don't feel like this is the start of something. You know, maybe the Patriots, but I don't, I mean, I don't think they're that good. I think they had a last play schedule. All the other big quarterbacks had issues. You know, I, Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they're back here next year, but that's what I think. And then I think for the Seahawks, you know, NFC's down, they have a great year. I think both these teams, like, you want to win now, obviously you want to win anyway, but I'm not sure that we'll see. I don't think we'll see either of these teams again next year. So now's the time to pounce on it.
Drew Franklin
I think the Patriots are set up. I don't think they have a dynasty like they did or anything crazy, but they're just a gritty team that's kind of. The Titans had some success with Rabel. He's just a good coach. The fact that, that they. I know they're not anything special, but the fact that they went nine and oh on the road just says a lot about him and how he's able to get him up, you know, But
Matt Jones
I want to hate on him. Come on.
Drew Franklin
I know they'll be knocking on the door for a while, but I don't think we're, like, looking at the next wave of a dynasty.
Matt Jones
Drake May, like, if you think Drake May is what New England fans think he is, then, yeah, this is the start of a long run. I think he's been really poor in these playoffs. He's just been fortunate that they're being. And C.J. stroud has one of the worst games in the history of the playoffs. And then Jared Stidham, you know, is. Was a banker a few weeks ago. So, like, I. It. I'm not trying to hate. I clearly am hating. But you're Patriots. Yeah.
Drew Franklin
And Patriot. Patriots are excited. Drake May is. Is younger than Tom Brady was before he even took over for Bledsoe. So the ones that really believe he's the future, they look like they're getting an even, even bigger head start on this next dynasty. Whether that's true or not.
Matt Jones
What does really bother me, though, is like week seven or week eight or something of the season. I was looking at super bowl, like, matchup odds. And the Seahawks at the time I think were like 6 and 1, and maybe the Patriots were 6 and 2 or something. And I looked and I was like, these two teams right now would be the one seeds. And it was like 60 to one. And I thought, why is this so high? Why don't. Maybe I should just bet this, right? Like, I don't like either of these teams, this would be a miserable finish. And now I go, 20 bucks. Like, how did I not do that? But I do think literally, even when they were both in first place, it was literally like 60 to 1 or something at one point.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. I mean, all season, even though they kept winning, they had two of the best win streaks in the regular season. It never felt like they were a real, you know, team that could get all the way to the Super Bowl. They were winning games. You'd be like, well, they won again. I guess they're good. But it never felt like they were going to go all the way.
Matt Jones
They're like, with plus 1200 to win the super bowl at the start of the playoffs, you know, like. Like, even though they were the two seed, I want to say that they were something like 1200. They were like the seventh most likely team. So I don't know. I kind of felt like they were going to win from the beginning because. And I thought, we're probably going to win next week, and I'm just going to. I'm not going to like it. All right, so, Billy, what are. What. What else do we have besides these championship games? Since the last time we've been on,
Billy
two new coaches were hired in the AFC North. Jesse Minter, the defensive coordinator for the Chargers, is now the head coach of the Ravens, and Mike McCarthy is the new man in Pittsburgh.
Matt Jones
Okay, so let's start with Mike McCarthy. I think what's interesting about him is he will now have coached the three most iconic franchises in football. The Steelers, the Packers, and the Cowboys. That's amazing. I mean, that would be like, you only had three jobs in baseball, and it was the Red Sox, Yankees and Cubs. I mean, or Dodgers. I mean, it's kind of crazy that that would be the thing. And he's not exactly a legend, and yet he's the guy. It also doesn't fit what. What they usually do, which is hire a young guy and keep him for 20 years. And also, it feels like he's just Mike Tomlin, but maybe not quite as good. So I find it an odd hire. How about you?
Drew Franklin
Yeah, for one, I'm with you on. It's crazy that he gets to coach those three teams and he's a Pittsburgh native, so he's got to be pinching himself. This is his new job. But, you know, I've talked about in the last several weeks how he was high on the Titans list, and I didn't really want to, and I wanted a young guy. He's got to be in his mid-60s, if I were guessing.
Matt Jones
Even if it works, I think I saw he's 62, maybe.
Drew Franklin
Okay, a little younger than I thought, but that's an organization that's had three coaches in, like, 200 years. And whatever you think of him, he's probably not going to have a whole lot left. So it was just a little different than what you think of Pittsburgh, but good for him going home. Another good job. I didn't want him, but good. Go get him in Pittsburgh.
Matt Jones
I only think you hire Mike McCarthy if you think you can go win the Super Bowl, Right? Like what? Like, like. I mean, they don't have a quarterback. To me, you get a coordinator and you let them build their. Their career. I was surprised by it. I mean, I don't. He won't fail, but I think, like, you know, Tomlin would win nine games every year. I kind of think McCarthy's going to win eight games every year. That's kind of how I feel like. I feel like that's what it's going to be. He's like, a little worse. Tomlin now, as far as mentor. His dad was once the coordinator for our team, the Kentucky Wildcats. I know nothing about him except he's like. He's everyone's nerd. The nerd's favorite choice. So the nerd football writers are like, oh, what a hire. You know, I mean, do you. Do you buy that?
Drew Franklin
I just knew he was, you know, one of the hottest names on the board. I get the Ravens going, coordinator, route defense. I just wonder what the Ravens future really looks like with the Lamar situation and what he's owed and how Lamar looked this last year. I know he was hurt, had some hamstring stuff, but that did not look like. Even when he was supposedly healthy and playing, that did not look like the Lamar we've all seen forever. So they're in a weird spot as he's coming in to take over. I just. I guess it's exciting if you're a fan, because that's a hot name. But I don't know what my team looks like. They have a lot of old dudes. Derek Henry, you know, what's he going to do? All throughout the roster, it was kind of a win now year, and they dropped the ball big time.
Matt Jones
Yeah. And I mean, I. Okay, so they hired defensive coordinator, but you bet. I guess who you hires, your offensive coordinator is going to matter. I mean, ultimately, you're not going to do anything over the next couple of years unless Lamar does it. People seem to love this Guy. I know the young coordinator thing has worked, but the young coordinator thing has worked with offensive guys. I mean we haven't really seen the young coordinator defense thing. It's not. Not been the way people have gone recently. So we'll see. I mean I can't make strong statements either way since I don't know him. His dad was horrible as a coordinator. Great nickname.
Drew Franklin
Not a great coordinator.
Matt Jones
Yeah, there is the.
Drew Franklin
They might be looking at the Mike McDonald mold. He was defensive with Seattle even though
Matt Jones
I guess I mean that you coming
Drew Franklin
from the Ravens too, that would be
Matt Jones
what they would do. But I mean we'll see. I'm going to start calling him nuclear mentor. His name's what? Jesse.
Drew Franklin
That's Nuclear is much better than Jesse.
Matt Jones
I feel like Jesse's a terrible name for a coach. I mean I. To me it's like Mikey or you know, you can't. Or Billy. Like if I'm. If I'm going to be. If you're going to be. If you're going to be a coach, you need to be the E version. You need to be Bill or Mike or Jess. Like Jesse. I just don't think that sounds like a coach. Jesse.
Drew Franklin
I'm definitely going by nuclear too. If I'm Jesse Minner.
Matt Jones
I'm trying to think. Has there been anyone in a position of leadership of success ever named Jesse?
Drew Franklin
How about Jesse Ventura?
Matt Jones
Oh well now that's true. He was. There you go. Okay, I take it back. Jesse the body Ventura.
Drew Franklin
Successful in two different. Two professions.
Matt Jones
That's right. He both was a leadership in the locker room at WWE and in the state house of Minnesota. So you know what? I take it back. I've got a lot of faith in Jesse Melters career.
Drew Franklin
Jesse Jackson. Maybe. Maybe we're sleeping on Jesse's.
Matt Jones
He was. He was never an official leader though. He was like he was an unofficial leader. But good job your Jesse's.
Drew Franklin
What about the old outlaw Jesse James? There's more.
Matt Jones
Jesse, unofficial leader. These are a lot of characters but I don't know if I want to give them the keys to my franchise.
Drew Franklin
Last one. Saved by. Saved by the bell Jesse. That's all I got. Those are my four.
Matt Jones
She is excited and she's also scared. So I think that makes it a little bit. A little bit hard. That's a reference Billy won't get, but that's okay.
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Matt Jones
What's next?
Billy
The Buffalo Bills interviewed Philip Rivers for their head coaching spot. They have not made a decision yet at this time.
Matt Jones
This is the second weirdest flash on my screen and I think it has to be a joke interview in history. Nothing will ever top. The Browns are interviewing Condoleezza Rice to be the head coach. Which genuine, interesting story about that. That was my first day ever on ESPN radio.
Billy
First day.
Matt Jones
My first day. That story broke like the night before. And it was a Saturday morning. I was filled in for Marty and McGee. And the top story was Condoleezza Rice's interview with the Browns. Do you think that's a good idea? And I sat and I remember thinking, what do I say? Because it's a terrible idea. But she's never coached anything. I'm aware. And I was like. And I remember people were going, well, she's a good leader. And I was, well, okay, but so anyway, this one is not quite as shocking as that one, Drew, but fairly surprising.
Drew Franklin
I gotta tell you, I didn't. I didn't really care for Philip Rivers as a player. But since he came back to play for the Colts, it had his little run there and we all fell for the Philip Rivers moment. I'm all in. And I hope he gets the job and I hope he wins. He's coaching a high school team right now to go from high school to the Bills.
Matt Jones
I'm just serious right now. I am a good decision.
Drew Franklin
I'm not saying it's good. I said I'm rooting for it. It actually is pretty ridiculous. I'm with you. The moment I saw their interview and I thought, well, this can't be real. But now that it's actually on the table and he's been interviewed, I don't know how serious to getting the job. I'm rooting for it. He won me over in Indianapolis, a team I don't even like. And I'm all in on Philip Rivers coming back into the league.
Matt Jones
This is a horrible idea. I don't know why people think a person that has never coached. I don't care that he's coached high school. I can show you a lot of people have coached high school and some of them get tased on basketball courts in Kentucky. I do not think that. I don't think the fact that you Coached high school makes you. Why did Jeff Saturday. They did this with Jeff Saturday, and that didn't work. Like, why do people think this is gonna work? Get a coach, right? You don't just go like, who is a coach? It's like. It'd be as if. It would be as if the CEO of Ford resigns and they go, why don't we go get Matt Kinset? Like, no. Just cause he can drive a car doesn't mean he can run Company.
Drew Franklin
I. I agree with you, but I'm also rooting for it. I'm all in on film. What are they gonna go get a coordinator? I saw they were looking at like a. A commander's assistant coach or a Dolphins assistant coach.
Matt Jones
Yes, that's what they're gonna do. Someone that has coached. When is this. This isn't. This never has worked.
Drew Franklin
Wait, hear me out. Hear me out. Ladanian Tomlinson, offensive coordinator.
Matt Jones
Okay, fine. If you just want to make the entire staff people who have never coached, then fine. Maybe we'll find out. It's like Weatherman. Anyone can do it. You just, you know, hey, let's get defensive. It's like when people would argue, you know, why don't they hire stuff? Like, I remember when Dion wasn't even coaching. Let's make him the Cowboys coach. No, go get a job first. Okay? Go get a job. Jackson State, Colorado. That's fine. Fine. Let's not start with the Cowboys. I feel this way about Philip Rivers. It's an awful decision, and the Bills are a contender. Like, don't just go pick some guy. Wait.
Drew Franklin
Josh Allen could learn from a former AFC quarterback who couldn't get over the hump.
Matt Jones
Josh Allen can learn from a quarterback that he beat regularly.
Drew Franklin
So you're saying Philip Rivers to Jackson State. Then he can start interviewing.
Matt Jones
The other day, there was some story about there's someone in the NFL right now who the quarterback coach for was like the backup of the guy he coaches. I don't know how that works either. I don't know how you go, like, I was better than you. But then. But I mean, some of that, you know, you look at all these coaches, how many of the best coaches in the NFL even were okay, NFL players? I mean, Harbaugh, okay, horrible. But, like, just look at the guys that played today. I mean, Sean McVeigh didn't play, right? I don't think Mike McDonald played. You know, Mike Vrabel looks like he played. But was he good in the NFL?
Drew Franklin
Oh, variable was very good. Yeah. Variable would be the answer. Dan Campbell played. I don't know how good he was.
Matt Jones
He was okay. I mean, so. So you get those guys that are okay, but you. A lot of Liam Cohen didn't play. I mean, a lot of these sort of younger coordinator types didn't play. I don't. I don't get the Philip Rivers thing.
Drew Franklin
I mean, Mike McDaniel was a ball boy. That was kind of like playing.
Matt Jones
Yeah. Oh, yeah. That guy looks like he played. I mean, he's much more likely to been a DJ than be a coach. All right, what else? Billy?
Billy
I got one more thing. It's not much of a news note, but Robert Kraft is back in the Super Bowl. You know, Tom Brady won a Super bowl with the Bucks. Does this result change your opinion on Bill Belichick and what he achieved at all?
Matt Jones
I hadn't thought of that as an angle. No, I mean, I don't think that. I think that, you know, the Belichick Brady debate is kind of a stupid debate to me because they're both obviously great. Like, nobody debates Bill Walsh versus Joe Montana. They just say, hey, they're both. They were both great. So I. Vrabel is in the Belichick tree. I think that's a positive. So. So, no, I would say Drew Robert Kraft. I don't know how much credit to give owners for these things. I guess he deserves some credit, but it would be a far behind for me. Even Vrabel and Drake may. Or really anyone involved having been an owner of things, you know, that would be like when I owned OVW, if two people, Mr. Pectacular, you know, wrestles Dustin Jackson, and when it's over, I'm like, all right, thank you. Look. Look what I did. Like, you know, come on. I mean, there's a role, I guess, for the owner, but it's not the main thing.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
And not.
Drew Franklin
I mean, Vrabel. That hire is going to be an awesome. I don't think there's any question. But also, that kind of fell in his lap. He was great with the Titans. Titans fired him right as the Patriots have an opening. I guess he took a year off, but, I mean, that was a very easy hire for him to make. A former captain with rings, all fingers from New Orleans or from New England, a fan favorite who's just suddenly open. So, yes, he made the right hire, but also hiring Mike Vrabel for that Patriots owner opening was pretty easy to make. Fell on his lap, really.
Matt Jones
Well, good luck to Robert Kraft and I hope that the patriots lose by 30, so. All right. Well, we will be back this week. We're going to. When we come back in the middle of the week, week, we're going to be on super bowl radio row and we've gotten a list of 300 people that we can choose whether or not we want to interview. And we're going to go over some of them later in the week to decide if you all think we should interview them. I mean, this show, if you've listened a lot this year, we've interviewed exactly no one. So.
Drew Franklin
No, no, no, no. Yeah, the Browns couple, they got married.
Matt Jones
We interviewed them. Yeah.
Billy
Brown spider.
Matt Jones
That's true. We did met. But I, I would say, though, we haven't interviewed a lot of people, so this will be different for us. And we're going to be on the NFL set and we'll talk more about that. I'm getting, you know, when they were describing it to me, it's exciting. But also, you know, you and I have never had a set. As anyone who can see your blurry camera or my book stacked background, this is going to be different for us.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. But, you know, I'm confident that Billy will bring at least one of his NFL hats. You know, we're going to be dressed appropriately. I actually, right before we hopped on here, I was looking at the weather forecast several weeks out, getting ready. Really looking forward to it. The set will be very intimidating compared to what we normally have, but I cannot be more excited. Even if it's not the two teams we wanted, we can't wait to get there.
Matt Jones
Yes, I agree. And I'm going to ask for former Seahawk legend Steve Largent, who a buddy of mine used to wear his jersey to Duke law class about once a week. And he was like an immaculate dresser, except once a week he would wear a Steve Largent jersey long after Steve Largent had retired. And so I always thought that was sort of an odd thing. So I would like to be able to tell that to him.
Drew Franklin
Well, former Seahawks are walking around. Marshawn lynch is one of my favorite people on the planet. So I would love, I would love a few minutes with Marshawn Lynch.
Matt Jones
The Patriots.
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
Matt Jones
Get the ball. He's going to be everywhere.
Drew Franklin
That's number one on my list of people I want to see.
Billy
And former MVP Sean Alexander is from Kentucky, so maybe we could probably get him.
Matt Jones
Yes.
Billy
Yeah.
Matt Jones
And the guy that the jingle we've talked about before from Sunday night football and Mr. Cortez Kennedy will find your house like he, he is a former Seahawk as well.
Drew Franklin
And Maybe your boy Bill Simmons will be there to support his Patriots.
Matt Jones
I don't know what I would do if I met him. I think I would like to meet him, but I might boo him because he will be for the Patriots. Well, listen, thank you all very much. If you're snowed in or iced in, good luck and stay warm. We'll see you later. This has been cover 0 foreign. With Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and I Heart Podcast. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Episode: Super Bowl is Set & Coaches Getting Hired
Date: January 26, 2026
Podcast: NFL Cover Zero – iHeartPodcasts
In this episode, Matt Jones and Drew Franklin, stuck indoors thanks to icy winter weather in Kentucky, review the NFL Championship games that set the Super Bowl matchup: the New England Patriots vs. Seattle Seahawks. They sift through lackluster game performances, debate the energy and narrative value of this Super Bowl, criticize playoff coaching decisions, unpack new NFL coaching hires, and riff on Super Bowl halftime acts. The conversation flows in their trademark relaxed, humorous style, with lots of give-and-take and football banter.
Hosts’ underwhelmed reactions to the Super Bowl pairing:
Lackluster AFC Championship game (Broncos–Patriots):
Critique of the matchup’s entertainment value and play quality.
Discussion of Jared Stidham’s fast start but costly mistakes:
“If you're Stidham, you cannot turn that ball over. ...That interception...I think the game was oddly over at halftime.” (07:10–07:40, Matt)
Patriots’ offense knocked for “more three and outs than scoring drives in the playoffs.” (09:20, Drew)
Strength of Patriots’ postseason run debated:
Historical note:
Criticism of Snowy, Low-Scoring Game:
Praise for Sam Darnold’s redemption story and Smith-Njigba’s impact:
“Gotta give Sam Darnold a ton of credit. ...when everybody had given up on him. ...He’s played really well in Minnesota and then collapsed... Everyone said, ‘See, that’s what Sam Darnold actually is.’ Comes back, does it, and actually meets the goals this year as a 1-seed. ...He deserves to be there.” (24:16–25:39, Matt)
Discussion of wide receivers’ importance to QB success.
Notable (infamous) moment:
Refereeing debates:
Seahawks fans’ branding as “The Twelves” — Drew finds it overdone:
“Everything’s just 12, 12... They were wearing me out with it.” (29:11–30:04, Drew & Matt)
Mike McCarthy to Steelers:
Jesse Minter to Ravens:
Joking about 'Jesse' as a coach's name:
“If you’re going to be a coach, you need to be the E version... Jesse just doesn’t sound like a coach.” (45:32, Matt)
Lack of traditional journey for both teams:
“Both these teams come out of nowhere, really. ...I just don’t feel like either of these teams ... it’s going to feel like they’re actually a Super Bowl [champion].” (36:12, Matt)
Legacy talk: Will this “one-off” championship be memorable like the 2004 Pistons?
Super Bowl odds:
Halftime/Pre-game: Green Day & Bad Bunny
Rumors: Philip Rivers interviews for Bills job
Matt: “I do not think that... the fact that you coached high school makes you (qualified to coach in NFL). Why did Jeff Saturday... work?” (52:29, Matt)
Drew admits he’s rooting for it just for the spectacle.
Comparison with “Condoleezza Rice interviewing for Browns head coach”—hosts laugh at NFL’s occasional forays into unconventional hires. (50:46–51:08, Matt)
Owners’ role in legacy:
The show maintains a casual, fun-loving, sometimes sardonic tone. Matt, Drew, and Billy riff with each other, blending dry humor, sports cynicism, and genuine football insight.
This summary covers major arguments, key storylines, and the recurring laid-back, fan-focused approach of NFL Cover Zero.