Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Bijan Robinson GETS PAID + Unk & Haddy join!

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Nightcap – Deebo & Joe, Part 1 | Detailed Episode Summary

Podcast: Nightcap
Episode: Deebo & Joe – Part 1: Bijan Robinson Gets Paid + Unk & Haddy Join!
Date: August 4, 2026
Hosts: James “Deebo” Harrison & Joe Haden
Notable Guests: Haddy & Unk (Diamond Gym)

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Episode Overview

This Nightcap episode serves up unfiltered, lively conversation on the latest NFL headlines and deep dives into athlete mentality and training culture. Deebo and Joe Haden riff on football, faith, athlete character, the ongoing NFL running back contract dynamics, and bring on powerhouse guests Haddy and Unk from Diamond Gym—a notorious “most dangerous gym in America”—for a real-talk interview about discipline, pain, and shaping men through workouts and mentorship.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Faith, Character & The Athlete Mindset

[04:30–12:50]

• Grounded in Faith:
  Deebo kicks off with praise for Steeler player Jeremy Bernard's character and faith, highlighting the importance of being grounded.
  • “He’s grounded in his Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. I wasn’t getting no better than that, Joe.” – Deebo [08:10]
• On Priorities and Character:
  • Joe: "It's a priority thing. It's faith, family, football... when you're grounded, you know where your bread is buttered. You're not going to let people's opinions waver your emotions." [08:26]
• Mentoring the Next Generation:
  • Joe emphasizes setting a good example, not forcing faith but "planting those seeds" for young players. [07:07]
  • Deebo reflects on his own faith journey and sharing devotionals, noting the impact on others' lives. [11:18]
• Importance of Locker Room Culture:
  • Players with strong character and reliable professionalism are invaluable to a team.

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2. Sports Debate: LeBron vs. Jordan, and Running Back Longevity

[13:55–27:22]

• The LeBron vs. Jordan Conversation:
  • Joe argues LeBron’s longevity and versatility put him above Michael Jordan, citing LeBron’s physical abilities and extended high-level performance.
  • Deebo challenges: “Because you’re saying the longevity is what made him better, not the actual play itself.” [21:04]
  • "Jordan played defense, too, bro." - Deebo [22:58]
• Defense and Legacy:
  • Joe: "Young Bron, out there with the Cavs... I thought that was the best player I’d ever seen play” [21:14]
  • Deebo: “Jordan got, like, nine or ten (defensive awards)… how many Bron got?” [23:01]
• Championships vs. Stats:
  • Debate turns to Jordan’s “six chips in a row” vs. LeBron’s four, and Bill Russell’s 11 rings.
• Receiver Talk: Moss vs. Rice:
  • Jerry Rice’s longevity vs. Randy Moss’ peak explosiveness and “eye test.”

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3. Browns Quarterback Drama & NFL Front Office Dynamics

[27:24–34:20]

• Cleveland Browns Criticism:
  • Deebo reads and reacts to a scathing USA Today article about Browns’ messy QB situation, mocking the front office’s uncertainty around Deshaun Watson and Shador Sanders.
  • “Joe, your Browns is Browning, man!” – Deebo [32:47]
• Behind-the-Scenes Realities:
  • Joe points out GMs and owners routinely spin stories but make moves behind the scenes: “They’re just trying to make your team look good… But if you have to move on, you gotta live with that.” [31:05]
• QB Battle Timeline:
  • Joe predicts a starter named after second or third preseason game, with Deebo doubting a decision will come that early. They banter about Shador Sanders' promising camp but limited competition. [34:11–34:46]

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4. Breaking NFL Running Back Contract News

[34:20–41:13]

• Bijan Robinson’s Historic Payday:
  • Deebo and Joe react live to the Atlanta Falcons giving Bijan Robinson a record-setting 3-year, $75 million contract ($51M guaranteed, $37M signing bonus).
    • “That boy got a $37 million signing bonus. Oh my goodness, Joe!” – Deebo [34:52]
• Implications for Other RBs:
  • Jamir Gibbs’ holdout with the Lions discussed; his salary is paltry by comparison ($4.46M)—the guys expect Detroit “gotta make him happy, bro." [39:55]
  • “When you seeing Bijan Robinson sign for $25 million a year, it’s like, okay, you know what time it is for Gibbs for sure.” – Joe [40:41]

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5. Diamond Gym: Discipline, Mentorship, and the Power of Pain

[41:58–56:22]

• Haddy and Unk Interview:
  • Diamond Gym Origin Story: The guests lay out how their famously challenging workouts build both mind and body, forming a brotherhood that “shapes men through fire.”
  • Workout Philosophy:
    • Unk: “We like to do things that not only exhaust the body but exhaust the mind… if I do 200, Haddy got to do 200.” [46:24]
    • Push-up penalties for breaking any rules: “My shorts was an inch too short – 100 burpees. It was punishment.” – Haddy [48:12]
  • Discipline & Realness:
    • “Champions are made when no one is watching.” – Unk [55:52]
  • Diamond as a Haven for Young Men:
    • Structure, discipline, emotional outlet—Haddy and Unk help build confidence and growth for kids and athletes.
    • Haddy: “You can discipline yourself in the gym, you can discipline yourself in the real world.” [53:51]
  • No Room For Fake Influencers:
    • Unk: “I don’t want to see filters…come walk the walk with him [Haddy]…you gotta back up what you put on social media.” [55:31]
• Deebo on Diamond Experience:
  • Describes brutal workouts, mental breaking point, pushing through pain: “At some point, the pain comes…your body is like, I’m done. And that’s when you have to go past failure.” [49:41]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Deebo:
  • “My hat game is impeccable.” [05:47] (light-hearted banter with Joe about fashion)
  • “You need more players like this in the locker room... the main thing gonna be the main thing.” [10:12]
• Joe:
  • “It’s okay to be angry, it’s okay to have emotion, it’s not okay to lose those emotions.” [53:51]
• Unk (Diamond Gym):
  • “We built a family off of pain, basically.” [53:26]
  • “It’s not us being arrogant or us not being humble. It’s reality. This is how he [Haddy] trains every day.” [55:52]
• Haddy:
  • “The harder the workout is, the more satisfied we become because it’s letting us know that the body is – is limitless, so to speak.” [47:30]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Faith, Mentorship & Athlete Character: [04:30–12:50]
• LeBron vs. Jordan, Moss vs. Rice: [13:55–27:22]
• Browns QB Situation Rant: [27:24–34:20]
• Bijan Robinson Contract Talks, RB Market: [34:20–41:13]
• Haddy & Unk Interview (Diamond Gym): [41:58–56:22]
• Diamond Gym Philosophy / Pain & Growth: [46:24, 48:12, 53:51, 55:52]

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Summary Tone & Takeaways

The episode blends locker-room camaraderie with sharp sports analysis, spiritual grounding, and tough-love mentorship. Deebo and Joe’s chemistry shines through their honest back-and-forth, from friendly fashion battles to classic athlete debates. The interview with Haddy and Unk delivers both laughs and hard truths about what it really takes to "shape men"—in the gym or in life, pain and discipline forge real strength.

For listeners: If you want the real stories behind headlines and the culture that shapes today’s athletes, plus rare insights from those training the next generation, this episode delivers.

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[E]

Doing great brother Debo. Another beautiful day that the Lord has made. I am going to rejoice and be glad in it. We are with my good brother.

[B]

Yes sir, you sir, I, I am doing extremely well. Another day. Blessed to be here. Come on on this podcast.

[E]

Yes sir.

[B]

My brother showing love.

[E]

You know it love.

[B]

Receiving love.

[E]

You know it love. All love.

[B]

All love Joe.

[E]

All love.

[B]

All love brother. Look here, later on we have, we have hottie and un coming on. Yes to rap with us. Talk a little bit. We'll go over some of the stuff we did in the gym and a little bit of everything. Get to know him a little better.

[E]

Yes, sir.

[B]

So what we go jump into right now is a little bit of steeler information.

[E]

Yes, sir.

[B]

Information.

[E]

Okay, let's pop up that's people.

[C]

I ain't going.

[E]

That's a fire Steelers hat you got on right there, my brother. Hey, that had that. Never seen it. Never seen it before. Is that right there?

[B]

That's.

[E]

That's a one on one. That right there is. That right there is. Oh, kudos to you, Debo. You coming through with the hat. You said you was.

[B]

That hat is very impressive, Joe.

[E]

I perfectly with the shirt. Yeah, you did that.

[B]

Oh, I told you, man. My hat game is impeccable.

[E]

Respectfully. Respectfully.

[B]

Okay, now this one, if you like this one.

[E]

Yes, I love that one.

[B]

I know you. No, no. If you love this one.

[F]

Yes.

[B]

Listen, I don't even know what's a stronger word for love. You just gonna be infatuated with me tomorrow, okay? And it's gonna be a one on one too, baby.

[E]

Okay, okay, okay.

[B]

We ain't gonna be on tomorrow.

[E]

Friday, Friday, Friday, Friday, Friday, Friday, Friday. I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to it. Because you've been stepping with the hats. You ain't lied about it. You've been stepping.

[B]

That's what I do, man. I'm stepping.

[E]

I'mma stepping on you stepping. Big step, big stepper. Respectfully.

[B]

Respectfully, Joe still.

[E]

Yes, sir.

[B]

Have themselves a grounded, God fearing man over there. And Jeremy Bernard. Yes, right here, man. You pulled up with a Bible in your hand.

[E]

So I keep. I keep mine on me too.

[B]

So how important is it to. To dive into the Word every day? What advice would you give to the young people?

[E]

Yeah, I mean, like I said, you know, go to him to get your daily bread. So like every single day I'm making sure that I'm opening up my word, that I'm praying. I'm giving him the time because, you know, he has blessed me beyond measures. And you know, he gives me grace and mercies every single day to wake up. And so I just know it's a

[D]

blessing to wake up.

[E]

And I have to give him, you know, my life. Like he says, like when Christ died, we died with him, so. And we got a new life. And so that's the way I try to live. And I just continue to try to bring the younger generation along with that. You know, I never try to be, you know, forceful with it, but I always just try to plant those seeds and let God do the rest and pray for people. That's good.

[B]

Some plant some water, but God gets to increase.

[E]

Yes, sir.

[B]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Listen, man, since this man has got into the league, man, he has got the Pittsburgh man, since he has become a Steeler, the only thing that has been said about him has been 100% positive. Talk about his work ethic, how he's a quick learner. Why? Because he has work ethic. His willingness to take advice from his leader, his veteran leadership. You know what I'm saying? The guys that are his OGs, the guys that are going to give him that information, you know, his professional mindset and just, you know, his confidence without arrogance. You know what I'm saying?

[E]

Yes, sir.

[B]

And it makes 100 now, 100% since now, because he is a well grounded young man and he is grounded in his Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. I wasn't getting no better than that, Joe.

[E]

It don't get no better than that, Debo. It's. It's a priority thing. It's a faith family, football. I would call them the Fs. And then it's just the, you know, when you're grounded, you know what, where your butt is bred. So you're not going to let people's wait. Waver your emotions. You're not going to let Twitter and how people feel about you really impress you because they don't know who you are. So the work's going to work the worst going to speak out for yourself. You're going to go out there, you're going to grind, you're going to put the work in, you're going to speak to your Lord and savior because you know, you know what I'm saying. You know that what's going to happen for me is going to happen for me. So I just love that the way that he's going to be able to get through his trial and errors, he may not be like, it's not going to say he's going to be the best football player of all time, but I'm just loving that, you know, that end of the day he's going to work and he's going to be able to have his, his priorities are in order.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, but just from his college career, I mean, I don't see any reason why he wouldn't be a productive member of this year's squad, especially in that, you know, in that, in that slot position. I, I just, that's, that's the way I see it. That's the way I feel about it, just from his previous work. And again, this is one of those things where, hey, he can play the game and then it's the character part of it. Yeah, that's a lot of things. That's. That that's something that a lot of GMs and, and owners don't really dive into is the character part. You got to have somebody that has character, that, that is, that is built on something that has a. A grounding. They understanding that it's not me. I didn't do this. It's not all me. Because now you don't have that person that's in that locker room. Like, I need this, I need that. This is this, this is that, like simple. And he is grounded. He knows that everything starts with his Lord and savior and ends with it. I love it.

[E]

I love it.

[B]

I love it, brother.

[E]

You need more players like this in the locker room. Because a lot of dudes, they. I mean, just the football, his faith and everything. Because, you know, like, when we talk about character issues and we talk about not having to worry about him, you know, end of the day he's going to be out of the way. He's worried about football. The main thing is going to be the main thing. So when he's balling out, when it's contract time, there's no reasons not to pay him. You know, that this dude is going to be on time, he's going to be in the meetings, he's going to be doing what he got to do, going great teammate, great locker room guy. Here you go.

[B]

No question, brother, that. Listen, bro, the more, the more, the more I hear about him, especially, you know, this, this right here. This is not something that a lot of guys actually push out there, to be honest with you. Yeah, especially like, I wasn't one of them. You know, I really just, like I said, started really getting into it over the last, you know, two, three years when I accepted my Lord and Savior. So I'm not as vocal as some, but I don't, I don't sit and slide it up under. The first thing I do is I get into my word good 45 minutes, if not an hour spend time meditate on it.

[F]

Yep.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? I share it with people on my story. Just from one of my, my daily devotional that I do story every morning. As soon as that's. That's one of the things I do. And to be honest with you, man, like, I started to stop doing it at one point in time and I'm like, you know what? I can't stop doing something. Like, you can't stop doing it. And you know, the, the thing that everyone is supposed to do is make more disciples. I'm not saying I'm a holy Roller. But I know I've got plenty of messages from people that are like, james, I read your. Your story, and I got the book. And now I'm in that process of walking my journey with my Lord and Savior and make a, you know, a change in my life and become a saved, you know, man. So, yeah, you know, I love it, man.

[E]

It's all in the way that you do it, too, Debo. Like you said, you don't want to feel like you walking around more holier than thou, because, you know, you want to work. No, no. So I'm saying you want to welcome disciples because it's like, that's the thing. Some people get worried about Christianity because if you're a Christian, they feel like, oh, no, you can't do nothing bad. It's like, no. End of the day, we know I'm a sinner that needs a savior, so I'm not. Not here just to push it on everybody. But you are. Or walking. You know what I'm saying? You know who you are, and you believe in it. So that's when I listen to him, and he said, I'm not going out and just forcing my religion, but I'm gracefully, like, I'm here.

[B]

You can unfollow me.

[E]

I know I am. You know what I'm saying? But it is what it is. I'm here to reach good. You know what I'm saying? So the way that you deliver it is. It's all good.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, for sure. But I want to go over here to Cleveland.

[E]

Yes.

[B]

Come on. Listen, bro, you got.

[E]

You got IO.

[B]

Yes. And that's what I wanted to talk to you about.

[E]

Yes, sir.

[B]

You got the Ohio. That's what I was saying to you when I. My. My mic was off. I didn't know my mic was off. Yeah, you got the Ohio hat on. Yeah, but you LeBron over everything. You should have a PA hat on right now. Oh, I love. No, you know what they do? They just give me.

[E]

No, no, no. Cleveland, look, they not playing right now.

[B]

It's still from Florida.

[E]

When they don't play, they have. It's. I'm rocking with the Cavs. Always, Braun.

[F]

Always.

[E]

Cleveland is not going nowhere. They're not playing the. They're not playing Philly right now. So over in the. Braun knows they're not playing each other when they play each other. Like I said, it is what it is. But right now, I'm always. Oh, hey, Joe, what school did you go to? What?

[B]

What school did you go to?

[E]

University. Look, I went to the University of Florida. I was a Gator. My coach, Urban Meyer. Urban Meyer coached the University of Florida.

[B]

Ohio State University.

[E]

The Ohio State University. So my college, I got ties in both schools. My strength conditioning coach, the great Mickey Morati. Right?

[B]

I'm getting.

[E]

And now

[B]

see, you know what I mean?

[E]

I just got throughout the Lord.

[B]

You got me cussing already.

[E]

See, that's what I'm saying. We know.

[B]

And you.

[E]

But look. But you know. You know right from wrong. That's what you know you're doing wrong. You could repent. Debo, you.

[B]

I need somebody.

[E]

Language.

[B]

Listen. I need somebody. The Ohio State University. One player that will come out here wearing a Florida hat. Y' all find me one.

[E]

Urban Meyer would do it. Urban Meyer would do it.

[B]

I said a player, bro. Listen, he never played, man.

[E]

Though buy me one. It's really about. Listen, be a man if the gate. But, you know, it's Gatorade. Gator Nation is over. Ohio State because my college, they played. Oh, Gator. Gator Nation. I rock with Ohio State because it. Because it's Ohio. Everything Cleveland. Everything Cleveland. So I look out for Ohio State, but it's the University of Florida. I'm an alma mater. Well, I went to the hall of Fame for is number one.

[B]

Is that. Cause LeBron. Do they shoes?

[E]

No, they sponsored by Jordan.

[B]

Exactly.

[E]

Florida Gators are Jordan.

[B]

I'm talking about all state.

[E]

Ohio State. Are they. Are they. Are they LeBron School? Are they?

[F]

I believe.

[E]

I don't know because that's not my. That's not my university. I know the Gators are team Jordan and that's my squad. Ohio State. I'm rocking with Ohio because it's. Who the best player ever played against Ohio. I rock with anything that. Anything at the land.

[B]

Who's the best player to ever play the game of basketball? Joe

[E]

LeBron James.

[B]

But you rock with Jordan. Jordan.

[E]

I love Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan said Michael Jordan. It was Michael lebron just passed Michael Jordan. And me finally being able to say

[B]

LeBron played 100 years, man, he finally

[E]

let me be able to vocalize it. Because of his longevity. Debo. For me, him doing this this long, like.

[B]

Let me ask you a question. Then let me ask you a question. Let me get to what you say

[E]

with the Jerry Rice. This is the Jerry Rice effect.

[B]

I understand that, but Jerry Rice was still a damn good receiver. James is still cut it down. Ain't nobody still catching Jerry Rice in that time frame.

[E]

Nobody's.

[B]

How you go to running backs. Go to running backs. Look at Barry. Okay, got the highest right? Yes, Barry and Emmett in the same time frames. Barry's off the chart, but Emmett had the longevity because he had to go catch him. He need to go those extra years to catch him.

[E]

Okay, okay.

[B]

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[B]

Who you, who, who are you picking, Barry or you picking Emmy?

[E]

I like Barry Sanders, no question.

[B]

Me too. I was scared coming in the league. I thought I was about to play against him. I'm like, I can't have have me out there tearing up my ACL or something. He would have bro boy stop on the dime like and do all the. No, I'm like, no, I didn't. I'm like, yo, that what are we talking about?

[E]

He retired.

[B]

I was like, okay, we good and we going to Detroit. That was my first game. I played the preseason. Detroit 2002. I'm like, yeah, let's go.

[E]

Anyway, Joe, bro, I, I just, I'm just, I'm just baffled that how I can't like how, how if LeBron I think is a little bit just. Just passed him from the longevity. Why am I crazy? Is that crazy?

[B]

Because, because you're saying, you're saying the longevity is what made him better, not the actual play itself. You got from.

[E]

I test too. When I seen young, when I seen

[B]

young Braun, Jordan went and played baseball and came back and got three more.

[E]

The only reason why I'm saying this too, is this the champion. When I look for my eye test and I see young Braun out there with the Cavs, when he came out there From High School 7, eight years into the league, I thought that was the best player I had ever seen play, like more athletic. Like when Kobe came out of high school, he was behind Eddie Jones. He didn't start initially like he still. If LeBron would have went to the Lakers, he would have started off rip. He wouldn't have been behind anybody. So just me looking at LeBron with my eyes, I thought he was the best basketball player out of anybody. Then he started winning the championships, went back to Cleveland, did all of that stuff. Then I'm like, okay, he's for I test. Look, Jordan won six ships in a row. Was best, like, immortalized. I thought Jordan. Nobody was ever going to touch Jordan. But then you see LeBron stay out the way.

[B]

How many ships LeBron got?

[E]

LeBron has four. Has four. Four ships. But it's like, I understand that, but if you have more ships, isn't what I would think. Makes me. Makes you the best player for my eye test. If you just want to say ships, then who. What's my man that got 11 ships? Bill Russell? He should be.

[B]

Hey, man, somebody just said Jordan test the dunk contest. How many. How many. How many. How many dunk contests Brian do.

[E]

He didn't do any dunk contests.

[B]

Why not, Joe?

[E]

I don't. I don't know. I don't know.

[B]

I'm just saying, like, Brian, I. I give him the two. No question about giving me.

[E]

Okay.

[B]

I mean, and I'm still kind of fighting with Kobe for the two, but I ain't go. I ain't gonna go over there for. I give him the two. Two, three, Whatever. Whatever it be. But okay. But over Jordan. Jordan played defense, too, bro.

[E]

Bro plays defense. Young, bro.

[B]

How many defensive. How many defenses awards did. Did he win versus Jordan? Jordan got, like, nine or 10 of them things, right?

[E]

Man, they are.

[B]

How many Brown got? He ain't got one, do he?

[E]

Look at LeBron. How many times? How many blocks? He has all them chase downs. LeBron, nobody's just chase downs, bro. Nobody's you, nobody chase downs. Nobody's taking advantage of Bron.

[F]

Stand up.

[E]

Nobody's taking. Nobody's taking advantage of Braun.

[B]

I'm not, dude. I'm not. Listen, you think somebody was taking advantage of Jordan?

[E]

I mean, Pippen was, but you can't say, was Pippen better at defense than Jordan? I would say so. All right. That's the other thing.

[B]

That's the other thing.

[E]

They start.

[B]

Jordan stayed in one spot.

[A]

LeBron.

[E]

I'm not trying to talk. That's the other part. It got to make me start looking like I got to talk bad about Jordan to upbrunt. I have nothing bad to say about Jordan. Jordan is immortalized. Jordan did nothing wrong. So that's why.

[B]

No, I want. I want. Listen, I need Jordan to give me that shoe deal that he gave you.

[E]

See?

[B]

Yep. Listen, that was challenging.

[E]

It was a good, great, great, great, great, great, great deal. Thank you, mj.

[B]

Brian ain't give you it.

[E]

Brian didn't give me no deal. He didn't.

[B]

Brian ain't giving you no deal.

[E]

He didn't. He didn't. But that's why, you know, this is non. This is none bias.

[B]

Yes, it is bias. How

[E]

I got the deal from Jordan. If it was biased, I would be like, man, Jordan's way more. I think Jordan is for sure. He can't. Brown can't pass him. It's my opinion. I think Jordan is number just right. It's 1 1A, 1B. That's what I can say that.

[B]

Okay, so what would have made Jordan just straight one

[E]

if he would have played longer?

[B]

If he would have played longer, what else did he have to accomplish?

[E]

Not nothing. Nothing. There's nothing. See, that's. That's.

[B]

So. Okay, so here, so here, so here. So ad one of the coldest D linemen we don't see, and I don't know how long because he didn't play longer. And somebody else comes and plays longer and takes up that time to beat his numbers or get to his numbers. Now they're greater than him.

[C]

Exactly.

[E]

That's what. Look, this is my question, though. I think Randy Moss's career was shorter than Jerry Rice's, but Randy Moss, I feel like if you want to say longtime best receiver of all time, I think it's Randy Moss. But Jerry Rice's numbers because he played so long and was so consistent, then that's what they're like how you can't say nobody was better than Jerry Rice because he did it for so long and was so consistent and so great for that long. Like him and Randy Moss's peak greatness of seasons was probably around the same. But then Jerry Rice just did it for so much longer because literally when I see.

[B]

Okay, so. So do you have an idea of what their numbers look like in their peaks?

[E]

I don't. But then that's when it comes like you take an apples or oranges. It's like, who you. Your perfect person. Does it have to be because his numbers were a little bit better? Like the eye test would say if he has this Montana, like.

[B]

No, I will say this today's thing, I'm taking Moss.

[F]

Okay.

[B]

Even though I think Rice is number one, I'm still taking Moss.

[E]

That's where I'm saying Gordon and. And LeBron thing. It's like, I understand. The only way he could have passed it, it was Jerry Rice just played this long.

[B]

Ain't nobody ever catches Jerry Rice's receiving numbers.

[A]

I don't.

[E]

I Don't think nobody's ever catching. Nobody's ever catching LeBron James scoring record and he's not even a real. And they say he's not even a scorer.

[B]

He's not. He's not.

[E]

Okay, but he's the all time leading scorer of all times and he's going to be never.

[B]

23 years, bro. You gotta be.

[E]

You gotta be. See, that's what I'm saying, right?

[B]

So if somebody played 23.

[E]

What do you mean you gotta be.

[B]

You gotta be. If you're considered. If you're going to be considered the greatest of all time. You play 23 years, you gotta be. You gotta have all the records. You gotta have every record. Especially if it comes over accumulation of like, you know, whatever. But like again, I told you. But the eye test tells me when I see Jordan Brown primed up, I'm Jordan, it's Jordan.

[F]

Respect.

[E]

Okay.

[B]

Anyway, we're gonna go over here. This USA Today Ryder goes off on the Browns. He said, what are the Cleveland Browns doing? Seriously? We have no idea.

[F]

He said.

[B]

Both Watson and hasn't paid lip service to the notion that the locally, this I hate reading that locally despised quarterback could be back with the team next year when his current and fully guaranteed and widely derailed contract expires. The notion that he'd. The notion that he'd return is almost as ridiculous as the notion that he could potentially start over. Sanders, a second year player who needs a lengthy look at some point as Barry and company assists that assess their options ahead of what's expected to be a rich quarterback draft next year when the Browns own two first round picks thanks to the Garrett trade. He goes on to say in gibbon Cleveland's fans and giving. Cleveland fans seem to embrace Sanders to a degree perhaps approximate to that to their animus boxing. Why not just give the young man a long leash and park the very. Wow, dude. This dude's tripping the very lame duck on the bench. Sander dude, who is this dude, man? If Sanders plays well, maybe your quarterback question is answered. If he doesn't, then you're primely positioned to get your to get his replacement at the top of the next year's board maybe without having to invest further capital. Alias this is Cleveland. At last. This is Cleveland. Hey, bro.

[E]

Yes?

[B]

Who is this cat?

[E]

I don't know. USA Tripping.

[B]

Tripping.

[E]

He went hard.

[B]

He tripping with Nate. Nate Davis, man. Hey, he went in on y', all, bro.

[E]

He went in, he went in. I think they know why you go

[B]

in like that, Joe. I said that, I said that yesterday. I'm like, why are you even saying that's a possibility, Joe?

[E]

Possible possibility.

[B]

As I'm saying, it's a possibility that. Yes, yes, Watson could come back. What? They just want to lie to y' all now? I think Miles, see, they told y' all what they. What, we ain't trade Miles. Miles gonna be here. He gonna be here forever, and then, boom, he get traded.

[E]

Yes.

[B]

Like every storyline y' all get this year, it comes out as this and then it ends up being the opposite.

[E]

Yes.

[B]

What's going on, Joe?

[E]

This is blatantly. He's telling us at the end of the day, Debo, that I and you were saying the same thing. Owners, we see GMs, we see people, they gonna say something and next thing you know, they're gonna do another. Because they've been working on things behind the scenes, stuff is going on and they don't have to tell you the truth. They literally don't. So with the USA Today writer right here is saying is when they're saying that they want to sign deshaun Watson after the season, that's crazy. And he's saying what we, what I'm saying and what other people are saying, no matter what, you gotta bite the bullet. You've already signed the $230 million. You know, you did what you did. But end of the day, when you're, when you're saying this, you want desean I, I, we want desean Watson to play well, you have him under contract. Obviously you don't want him to not be looking good. So for outside, for everybody on the outside, you're just pushing desean Watson as much as you can. So at the end of the day, you're not going to sign him to a contract. I would think not. You already gave him this braid. What we need to do is what he's basically saying is we need to play Shador Sanders, the young quarterback that we have that is thriving, that everybody loves, that the locker room is winning over, that he's actually playing pretty well. He has weapons around him. Let's give him a chance with this team. Because if you don't find out what Shador, then you get rid of desean, obviously, because you already paid him that bread. You can move on now or you have options where you have two first round picks. So stop like, you're just out here just saying stuff, you know what I'm saying? Just trying to make sure your team looks good. Because if you have to move on, because owners and GMs behind the scenes, they're not saying this, I don't think. I would hope not. Unless, like, because in the day, he already made the two the money. And it is what it is, so you got to live with that. But as an owner, you trying to make sure that your team and everybody looks as good as they possibly can when. So the value doesn't go down, you're not going to deplenish the value of a player on your team if you can.

[B]

So last ditch effort is what y' all doing to hopefully think that somebody think or somebody is willing to possibly make a trade for this man before the season starts. I think that's the only reason y' all saying this stuff right now. That can be the only reason. Because all y' all do is. Is. Is tell stories and, and, and. And feed everybody BS and then go do something else. Like they go feed this. So he could do this and do that. And then if somebody was to say, hey, man, hey, we want to trade for him. Let us get Cloud. He had been off like a rocket. Joe, yo, your Browns is Browns, man. They Browning, man.

[E]

Look, this all. I'm telling you. Everything you, you. We got actions that's going to speak louder than words. We're going to have to watch and see what's going on during the preseason. We're seeing Shador and desean Watson are in a battle. Shador is playing well. So hopefully when the season comes, when these games start coming, we're going to have to announce the starting quarterback. This is. We're in flux, Debo. We're getting everybody's other information, all these insiders writing.

[B]

You think you're gonna get your starting quarterback. That's going to be your start of game one of the preseason.

[E]

No, no, I said after. After the joint practices, after we play the Buffalo. Buffalo Bills joint practices. Coming out of that, we'll have a starting quarterback before the preseason game, the second preseason game.

[B]

Oh, the second preseason game.

[E]

Second preseason game. Yeah, yeah. First preseason game, the 15th. Then we go to joint practices the 20th, and then we play the Bills the 22nd. The second preseason game.

[B]

Joe. I don't see them having their starting quarterback till after the third preseason game.

[F]

Joe.

[B]

I don't see him naming one till then. Joe, that's just me. I feel you like as much as they done went back and forth on this and that and everything else. And then you see the quarterback, they tracking all this, man, the young boy. The young boy doing better than all of them. I mean, he got less reps he's going against, you know, lower competition. But I'm just saying like it look, it looked better. You know he ain't, ain't got, I'm just saying he ain't got no interception.

[E]

No, no for sure he let the young boys keep grinding. I mean Dylan and Dylan and Jaylen Green not looking bad either. So keep letting them throw the ball, see what's going on.

[B]

Who's going to make Watson thing is crazy. Them saying yeah that's out of control. Look here man, that boy Bijon Robinson for the Falcons, he just broke the bank. A three year 75 million now makes him the highest paid running back in NFL history. He will receive a record 51 million guarantee and oh my goodness, that boy got 37 million dollar signing boss. Oh my goodness. Joe.

[E]

Yep, Yep, yep.

[B]

That's 25. 25 a year.

[E]

25 a year.

[B]

Brody 37 to sign the paper. He getting all that.

[E]

He resigned that good market for sure. You get 37s off the rip and it's 75.

[B]

Yep, he's seeing all that. All three.

[E]

Oh, for sure.

[B]

All that for sure. Now what they go do over there in Detroit with Gibbs,

[E]

that's why you want to hit down is, is, is look at you. You see what what they code say.

[B]

It says Gibbs. Cryptic comments on how long Lions hold in will continue. He said only time will tell. Running back Jamir Gribbs has now missed five straight practices and still no deal in sight with the Detroit Lions. Joe Yep, I guess currently he is the NFL 35th highest paid running back. 31st. Sorry, 31st highest paid running back. That's like almost dead last if you're talking all starting running backs like 4.46. That boy, that boy getting 4.46. Saquon had 20.6.

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[B]

25 yes.

[C]

What?

[E]

See, that's what. That's what happened.

[B]

And they got rid of and they got rid of Dave Montgomery. You ain't even got a leg to stand on. What Y' all gonna do, baby.

[F]

What they gonna do, Joe?

[E]

They need to do something. They gonna have to make him happy, bro. They're gonna have to do something. And if it's gonna be what he's looking for to guarantee. But like I said, the nothing but the salary cap is not going nowhere but up. And when these dudes are balling Bijan Robinson deservingly, so even when your team isn't doing exactly what it has to do as far as wins and losses, you are doing what you got to do, staying out the way, not making no noise. Same thing with Gibbs. He's putting up the numbers. And then Montgomery, you got rid of him. You know what I'm saying? So now you knowing that, you got to make sure that you take care of Gibbs. So he's sitting in the position where he knows that he's outplayed his contract. So everybody knows that Gibbs deserves assignment. When you seeing Bijan Robinson sign for $25 million a year, it's like, okay, you know what time it is for Gibbs for sure.

[B]

They asked. I guess they asked Dan Campbell his reaction to Robinson's contract, and he said, for Gibbs's deal, he said, it's certainly not going to hurt, but we'll see.

[E]

Yeah, that's. Man, he right. He wants him out. You know, the coach, he don't got too much to say. If he could give. If it was his money, he'd give it to Gibbs.

[C]

What?

[F]

What?

[B]

Who? They ain't got no real big paid players over there.

[E]

Oh, no, no, no. They got. They got. They got Omaron. Yes. They got J. My man Williams. J Dub. They got golf.

[B]

Golf?

[E]

Yeah, you know, those three. Three nice bags. But they got. They got. They got room,

[B]

man.

[F]

Eyes better with us looking at them.

[B]

Listen, Matt Ryan is the president of the. The stuff over there in. In Atlanta, man. He getting them boys paid over there, man. Got to get paid money, man. Look here, man. Go ahead and cut this down a little bit, baby. We go jump on in over here. We go jump on in over here, man. Cut this down, man. Cause right now we have. We have our guests. They have. They have finally arrived.

[E]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[B]

Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Hottie and Unc. We have two of the driving forces behind Diamond Gym and the extreme, I'll say extreme workouts that have led to a lot of viral content that you guys have been seeing over the past three years or so, often considered the most dangerous gym in America. They have athletes, celebrities, influences, entertainers, regular people. You know, they just come to to jam and Jim and to try and prove theyself to do what they do and, and see what they could do. But we'll get a little deeper into that as we go through the interview. But what these, these two men right here, they, they. They shape. They shape men. And, and it's, it's through fire. You know, I think when I first met him, here's a crazy thing, Joe, look here. So my sons was like, before this even got started, like before this ever even happened, shout out to NFL NFL Network, Ian, Rob and. And Al Digital. In the NFL Digital. They put, they. They ended up putting all this together, but at the league office. But my kids sent me a thing and they like, dad, how do you know want you to go to Diamond Gym? They said, they said you was one of the people they want. They want you to get there. And I ain't gonna lie, at the time, I didn't even know who it was. So I'm like, what are you talking about? They like, here, look, they showing me it, right? And I'm, bro, look at me in my eyes, Joe. I looked at that and I said, hey, dad ain't built like that no more. I ain't. I don't even got that desire. I said, son, I knew. I said, I said, I said, the boys over there doing 50, 000 reps, bro. I said, you trying to kill what you trying to do, right? So, yeah, long story short, it comes together and they're trying to get to me. The NFL is trying to get there. I'm trying to get to them. And we ended up getting together.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm like, you know what? To hell with it. I'm gonna do it. So they ended up wanting to put us at some little gym somewhere or whatever it was. I'm like, no, let me talk to the Steelers. So I made a call. So we got down here, we got to the Stiller's facility. Joe, now listen, this is the day before the draft, right, Joe, I done did my little warm up, you know, I do my. Do my 45 minutes, do all my stretching and stuff. They come in, I'm soaking wet, whatever. Yeah, we start, we start doing the thing. Hey, this uncle tell me, hey, first set, 200, huh?

[E]

200.

[B]

200. Yeah. I say what I made like it wasn't nothing, though, you know? Yeah.

[D]

Early.

[F]

Oh, what is the. What is the what?

[B]

What's that all about? Junk, man, Bring these boys on here, man. Welcome to the show, Unc and Hottie. Let's go.

[F]

What's Good.

[E]

What up? What up, fam?

[B]

I see you back there, boy sitting off in the corner.

[F]

No, we, we here, we here. James, I really like the introduction.

[E]

I was very fond of that introduction.

[B]

Yeah, appreciate it, appreciate it, appreciate it, appreciate it. Yeah, I try and do what I can when I can.

[F]

Hey, James, he's up. He's scared to ask you about your acupuncture picture.

[B]

Huh? What about it?

[C]

Go ahead.

[F]

I wasn't ready for you to be sexy, James.

[E]

Whoa, whoa.

[B]

Oh, you talking about that's body work. You gotta be able to look through that. What are you talking about, man? I'm in the National Geographic. Healthcare maintenance, body care, Middle Eastern. Well, that's actually a picture that's way worse than that. I ain't gonna lie to you. It's the whole, in the National Geographic, it's the whole spread. Like I ain't gonna lie. They made that thing to where they ain't covering nothing. It's a full back shot. They ain't coming up. I ain't gonna lie to you about that. Like that one? Yeah, they, I ain't even know they was up over top of the camera.

[E]

It was like this. Oh, nice. I'm not, I'm not hip. I'm not hip.

[B]

Yeah, Bryce. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was wild.

[F]

It was wild.

[B]

I ain't gonna lie. But I'm just showing the people the body work, the processes that you go through to get where you need to be, you know what I'm saying, to improve.

[F]

But Aaron is caring. But to answer your question about the 200 reps, we like to do things that not only exhaust the body, but exhaust the mind. So we try to make everything a challenge. And then on top of that, it's like we don't want to jump into heavy weight because people will get hurt. So our way of preventative care, they would say is if we're going to do chest that day, we probably do 2, 000 reps of just tricep extension. And then we go into our, our chest press. We might do 500 warm up sets. Then we'll go heavy. So that way we can just prevent injury. Get the muscles flaring up, get them fast, switch muscle fibers. And then it's also a challenge because if I do 200, how do you got to do 200? The next kid got to do 200. And then after every set we do 35 push ups just to keep it. So it's like for us, it's the harder the workout is, the more satisfied we become because it's it's letting us know that the body is. Is limitless, so to speak, and that your mind and your body are kind of in sync. So when the kids come in and they see it on social media, they think it's a game. Today up. Excuse me? Today. Messed up.

[B]

No.

[F]

You good?

[B]

You good?

[E]

No.

[F]

Then they throwing up and then. Oh, and, oh, we're going to do the workout with you.

[E]

So.

[B]

Yes.

[F]

Yeah. And that's another thing they say, well, Unc, you don't do this because we have certain rules. If I don't break the rules, I don't pay the toll. But if you break the rules, you close your eyes, don't accept, you're gonna do push ups. You drink water during the set, you're gonna do push ups. You don't pay attention with the exercises what we're doing, you're gonna do push ups. And now it's to the point that hottie didn't understand it at first, and now he's the ultimate ruling force. Not because I had to pay the price, James. I had to pay the price, bro.

[D]

I got.

[F]

I was getting beat, actually beat up for three years over a little.

[E]

I closed my eyes, 50 push ups.

[F]

My shorts was an inch too short of 100 burpees. It was punishment. So now I pay the same price I did. That's all.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I think, I think when you look at it, it's, It's a, it's a. It's a physiological and a psychological, you know, aspect to, you know, this kind of training or environment. Because, you know, you're going to meet people that are like you. And not only that, they're going to be people that are going through the same sort of difficulties that you're going through. And now you sit down there with them and you work out with them and you go through the same training, and at, at some point the pain comes, dude, all right? And that's something I'm gonna tell you right now, Joe. At some point the pain comes and everybody's gonna feel that pain. It's just going to be at a different level. Since they've been doing it long enough, they threshold for the pain is going to be higher than what mine was, okay? And when it comes down to it, man, and you're going through that, like, it gives you that knowledge that, all right, I already had it, that I could go through hard things. I know I. I can make it through, you know, and, and, and I knew that it wasn't something that would. Would kill me, but I hadn't went through what they did do, the massive number of reps. Dude, at some point in time, your body is like, I'm done. Yeah. Body told me it was like, I'm done. And that's when I had to go into the, you know, what's the past failure? It was like, I can't be done. I'm. I'm five minutes into this workout, bro. I can't be done.

[E]

No, for real.

[B]

Like, it's impossible. And I'm like, they're still doing it. So it was like, as much as I didn't want to dig back into that bag, you know what I'm saying?

[E]

It's the only way, dude.

[B]

It was the only way. And the biggest thing is, like, the exercise that a lot of people don't understand, like. Like, it changes. It changes your brain. Like, it's plenty of studies out there that show that it increases, you know, just everything from mood to learning. And when you put your brain through things like that, you put your body through things like that, and your brain learns that this stress doesn't mean danger. It learns, that is something I can overcome. And that's something that. Not just for workouts, that stress that you be able to overcome, but in life, in situations where you're stressed as a man, where you're stressed as an individual, and you learn that, you know what? This stress is not gonna break me. I can. I can work on this. I can overcome this. I can. I can. I can make it through this. So, you know, I think that's something that you guys have really got into now, just over the stretch of you doing what you have been done. When did you guys start basically having this whole thing with. With Diamond Jam Platform where you were, you know, building all this up?

[F]

20, 21.

[B]

Okay.

[F]

It's been almost five years now. Yeah, A little. A little in the middle of 2021, I think. Yes.

[B]

Okay.

[F]

Okay, I'm gonna film them. But the funny thing is, I've been in diamond since 96, so I think that's a. That's a 30 ball. And then I met Hottie. But Hadi was training. Hadi's always been the athletes, always been in shape. So I would always leave diamond to go to different gyms and just meet people and be like, yo, if you really want to come train, meet me at diamond. Because it's different from these commercial gyms. And here you exercise at diamond, you train not just mentally and physically. Like, so what happened was I used to. I admit, I used to bully Hottie around, call him pretty boy and everything.

[B]

Hey, man, I gotta

[F]

walk by him, hit him with a body shot for no reason.

[E]

And he'll be like this.

[F]

And I'm like, yo, like, do the workout. And then one day he was like a third party friend of ours. Reached out. Like, we doing YouTube videos. We want to come to diamond. And me being me, I'm like, I don't like cameras. I don't want to be a part of no cameras. I don't want to do none of that. I didn't know anything about social media, the gravity of social media. Tick tock. None of that. I had an Instagram page, but I was already working out on. Like, I didn't know about YouTube and filming. Like, yo, we coming to film you all head. Yeah, I'm old head. I'm still, man. I was before Instagram, Twitter, any of that. Yeah, Came that day. I didn't work out with them that first day. I just walked them through the gym. We did a crazy workout and the buzz went crazy because it was two different. I'll just say it's two different eras. Like meeting the younger generation. I'm a little bit older, so my style is different from this new generation. And when we meshed, it went crazy because we brought two different age demographics together. So then I'm like, okay, I'm gonna jump in the next workout because I don't want to be like, I'm telling y' all to do something not gonna do. But when I jump in now, we all gonna die, right? Oh, right. Yep. It just kept. It just kept getting bigger, stronger and faster. And then the more we did was like it was meant to happen because more kids wanted to join. And now it's like we went from three of us filming to now we got a whole family of kids. We got two kids playing football next year. They actually go to football camp August 11th.

[B]

Okay.

[F]

A lot of kids in college, we help them go to their proms. We help them go, like today, graduation. Build a family off of pain, basically. Pain. Everybody has their own little emotional structure, whether it's dad not being home, them having low self esteem, and everybody has their own thing. But when they come to diamond, they get to let it out the right way and not the wrong one.

[B]

Yes.

[F]

You can discipline yourself in the gym, you can discipline yourself in the real world. So what happens is a lot of these kids don't know it's okay to be angry, it's okay to have emotion, it's not okay to lose those emotions. Happens is These kids can't tame their emotions outside of the gym. So they end up doing drugs, go to jail, beating up people, hitting women, all types of stuff. So we give them structure in the gym. Hey, bro, there's nothing to talk about, put your phone down or you. So we let that dictate how they take care of themselves outside. And it creates a sort of discipline structure outside of and with, with hottie. The great thing about hottie is people look at hottie like, oh, he's a walk in the park and he is a behind closed doors, he's a monster. He's a workaholic. Whether it's doing the YouTube videos, editing, he's a self made businessman. But in that gym, to see him going to gym, he would. To be honest with you, and I hate to say it, when I look at certain influencers and this is just me being me, I see the still shots, I see the black and white photos, I see the, all these. I don't see the work, I don't see when the gym sweating. I don't see you in the gym crying. I don't see you in the gym about the pass out because you give. I don't. I just see your pictures on Instagram, I see the filters, I see the magazine photo shoots. So from him going to that world to really being a dog in a gym, it changed the landscape because now you gotta back up what you put on social media. We don't care about the pictures you post. Come walk that walk with him.

[B]

Yes.

[F]

All the social media influences his age. They come and try to get a test of that and they get dropped off. And it's not us being arrogant or us not being humble. It's his reality. This is how he trains every day. Now and then he models for a certain company. So a lot of those kids started training us and they like, yo, this ain't no facade. This is really him.

[B]

Yes.

[F]

Busy like, it's just like you, Debo. It's just like you and Joe. You guys performed on the field. But I was always taught, champions are made when no one is watching.

[B]

Yes, sir. Joe, Joe, tell him, Joe. Yeah.

[F]

Who are on the field. It's the that he doing the gym and behind closed doors that makes him a success story. He works hard. It's not given to him. Oh, he's Arabic. He must come from rich parents. No, he works his ass off and he believes.

[B]

I know he got some money though.

[F]

The niceness is over.

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