Best of NBA News Part 2: Celtics HIGH asking price for Jaylen Brown + Ja Morant TRADED to BLAZERS + What's NEXT for Grizzlies?!

Summary

Nightcap Podcast — Best of NBA News Pt 2 (July 1, 2026)

Hosts: Shannon Sharpe ("Unc"), Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson ("Ocho"), Uncle Joe
Theme: Deep-dive discussion on seismic NBA moves—focusing on Ja Morant’s trade to Portland, the Celtics’ massive asking price for Jaylen Brown, the fallout for Memphis, and more, with all the classic banter, tough love, and NBA insight.

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Overview

This episode dives straight into the whirlwind NBA offseason, dissecting:

• Ja Morant’s trade to the Trail Blazers and his career crossroads
• The Memphis Grizzlies’ total rebuild and asset play
• The Boston Celtics’ towering trade price for Jaylen Brown and league-wide implications
• Behind-the-scenes NBA dynamics: stars, roles, locker room chemistry, and money
• Miami Heat’s Giannis move (and his brothers), leadership, and team culture

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Key Segments & Takeaways

1. Ja Morant Traded to Portland: Can He Reset?

Timestamps: 03:33–15:35

• Headline: Ja Morant is traded to the Portland Trail Blazers for Jerami Grant and Chris Murray. Morant joins a crowded backcourt but gets a rare second act after tumultuous years in Memphis.
• Ocho: “No team carries four point guards... With bringing Ja over there, you got to be thinking you’re gonna get rid of one of these guys at least.” (04:16)
• Unc: “I think Portland is a good place... For him to have a restart on his career, I think he’s in a good place and he’s around some good people.” (07:21)
• The crew weighs whether Morant can adapt, clean up his “entourage issues,” and play off the ball alongside Dame Lillard.
• Ocho: “You gotta lock in, twin. You gotta show them boys what they missing, man.” (09:20)
• Unc: “The NBA don’t need him, but basketball still needs Ja. That Ja that's having fun... that's entertaining and polarizing... we need that Ja back.” (10:04)
• Honest, hard talk about assets vs. liabilities in sports and life:
  • Ocho: ”What we just talk about yesterday? Assets and liabilities, bro.” (08:34)
  • Joe: “Production can’t be here and tolerance up here. That ain’t gonna work. I don’t give a damn who you are.” (15:20)
• The segment pivots to how teams make decisions around a troubled star—if you hurt “and you hurt,” you lose leverage.

2. Grizzlies’ Rebuild: From Grit & Grind to Lottery Mode

Timestamps: 11:10–15:41, 25:36–26:41

• Memphis has now moved its big three (Morant, Desmond Bane, Jaren Jackson Jr.) one year after being swept in the playoffs.
• Ocho: “They got rid of all the veteran help, bro... you trade your dogs.” (11:36)
• Joe: “They didn't want to get rid of Ja, but he became more problem than what he worth.” (15:07)
• On the shuffling of roles: when a branch manager thinks he’s regional manager—trouble.

3. Portland’s Roster Logjam and Dame Lillard’s Legacy

Timestamps: 14:13–24:21

• Can Ja Morant play with Lillard? The hosts compare Dame’s off-the-dribble shooting and floor spacing to Steph Curry’s legacy.
• Joe: “If there’s no Steph Curry, he’s the greatest shooter of all time… He just so happens to be in the same era!” (21:42)
• Ocho: “Dame gotta be the most disrespectful mofo I know to come in... on Kobe’s night, he would want it no other way.” (25:17)
• The Blazers haven’t given up big assets for Ja yet—Jeremy Grant, Chris Murray, but kept key youth (Sharpe, Henderson, Avdija).

4. Celtics’ Trading Jalen Brown: Four First Rounders?

Timestamps: 31:42–36:57

• Joe: “The Celtics are asking for four first round draft [picks] for Jalen Brown... Jalen Brown is the better of those three players [Mikal Bridges, Desmond Bane, Brown].” (31:42)
• Ocho: “Why J.B. got his penthouse on the market? Hell, why you think it’s up for sale? Every time he turn around, that man’s name in conversation, bro.” (32:45)
• Consensus: Celtics want to break up Brown & Tatum, prioritize Tatum, and keep J.B. out west (Portland a frontrunner).
• Unc: “I’m going where I’m appreciated, not tolerated.” (34:16)
• Joe: “Boston has always... believed more in Jayson Tatum than Jalen Brown.” (34:25)
• Colorful analogy: Would Tatum accept an Olympic bench role like Brown? Nope. Personality and politics in NBA stardom.

5. Trade Secrecy, Locker Room Politics & Olympic Mentality

Timestamps: 36:57–40:50

• How some deals leak—and others (like the Luka trade) stay quiet.
  • Unc: “Everything that gets out, they put it out purposely. Anything they don't want out, it ain't getting out.” (38:45)
• Olympic team roles: players who “play their role to the T” (Devin Booker, Ant). Guys who accept less for the greater good.

6. Miami Heat, Giannis, & “No Brothers Policy”

Timestamps: 49:29–55:30

• Per ESPN, Miami is not planning to bring Giannis’ brothers onto the roster.
• Joe: “Milwaukee went above and beyond to have brothers on team... Now, Pat says we want you, not all of you.” (50:43)
• Ocho: “I ain't surprised. Growth and maturity... it’s gonna be uncomfortable. If you never played without your brothers, so be it.” (50:55)
• The show reflects on Miami's "culture": nobody gets special treatment.
  • “Can they contribute to us winning in any way? Absolutely not.” (51:34, Unc)

7. Leadership, Accountability, and Team Building—On & Off the Court

Timestamps: 55:07–62:18

• Hard lessons about punctuality and expectations:
  • Joe: “I can’t even get in good conscience do that. I couldn’t wait to get to work... all that hard work, all the training, I’m about to put that on display.” (57:09)
• The corporate/business analogy: “You one of two things: you’re an asset or you’re a liability.”
  • “People get off liabilities, man. They like to acquire and accumulate assets.” (60:50–61:03, Unc & Joe)
• Joe: “The biggest thing is that you think people think like you, and you think everybody is good.” (61:10)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “You get a whole nother chance, bro. You gotta lock in, twin. Get to it.” (09:20, Ocho, on Ja Morant)
• “Production can’t be here and tolerance up here. That ain’t gonna work. I don’t give a damn who you are.” (15:20, Joe)
• “Boston has always prioritized, more favorable, believed more in Jayson Tatum than Jaylen Brown.” (34:25, Joe)
• “I’m going where I’m appreciated, not tolerated.” (34:16, Unc)
• “Everything that gets out, they put it out purposely. Anything they don't want out, it ain't getting out.” (38:45, Unc)
• "Can they help us win?" (52:02, Joe & Unc, on Giannis' brothers in Miami)
• “You one of two things, Joe Ocho. You want two things. What are you? You’re an asset or you're a liability?” (60:37, Unc)

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Recurring Themes

• Tough Love: From Ja Morant’s redemption arc to locker room expectations, the hosts demand accountability.
• Business of Basketball: The hosts repeatedly use business analogies (roles, assets/liabilities, leadership) to explain NBA decisions.
• Behind the Scenes: Trade rumors, role acceptance, and team culture discussed with real-life NBA/locker room context.
• Camaraderie & Banter: Plenty of roasting, personal stories, and accountability among the hosts, reflecting both friendship and competitive fire.

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Final Thoughts

This Nightcap episode is a candid, rapid-fire, and insightful breakdown of major NBA news. Shannon, Ocho, and Uncle Joe skip the fluff, telling it straight: if you’re not producing, you’re expendable—no matter your name or highlight tape. They peel back the curtain on both superstar psychology and team-building realities, mixing serious analysis and trademark “Unc & Ocho” comedic banter.

An essential listen for NBA fans—especially those curious about locker room codes, superstar fragility, and the business of basketball.

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[Ocho]

Foreign.

[Joe]

Ja Morant to the Portland Trailblazer for Jeremy Grant and Chris Murray John, 26, played only 79 games in the last three season because of off court issues and injuries since his second consecutive All Star appearance in 2023. He joined the young Blazer Blazer team fresh off of his first playoff appearance in 2021, headlined by Denny yeah him I be ya Joe, you like that? Is my mic out?

[Ocho]

No, I hear you okay.

[Joe]

Do you like Ja going to Portland?

[Ocho]

Yeah, I mean, I guess. You know, for me, when you think about it, no team carries four point guards, so you got Morant, Dame, Holiday and Scoot. I thought School Henderson showed a lot of growth and maturity in his game throughout the postseason, especially in that series against the Spurs. I know they only won one game, but hell, he played a pivotal role in winning that game too. In San Antonio. Them first two games he looked like you might have had something as important. And then after that he was kind of, you know, non existent. But I thought he showed flashes that, you know, you'll still continue to take chances on the young man because I think he got potential to be pretty damn good, honestly. But with bringing Jai over there, you got to be thinking that you're going to get rid of one of these guys at least because I'm saying one you're probably going to carry three because

[Joe]

hey they two gonna start and what and can Scoop play the point we need some insurance. Holidays.

[Ocho]

We need some insurance. We need some insurance Ocho. Meaning maybe School come off the bench. School Henderson come off the bench. Maybe you deal Holiday because he probably has value and can go play for a championship contender team, you know. But man, the the biggest thing is y' all gonna have to learn how to play without that ball. Uncle Ocho you got to, you got.

[Uncle Joe]

He, he.

[Ocho]

You're gonna have to be because I mean.

[Uncle Joe]

But Dame, I don't have no problem playing.

[Ocho]

No, I understand that. Dame don't. He's. Damon's a great catch and shoot guy. He can play off the ball.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

But I think they gonna take turns. But hell, it's gonna be a lot of times I want to see Ja hit that lane, go catch a lob. Hell, hey, hey, hey. I think he can play off the ball as well. Meaning being cerebral as far as cutting to the basket with his elite athleticism, bro, he, he just can't be a statue when Dame over there running pick and roll or something. You know, you got to be able to mix it up a little bit, you know, be able to cut in there, get you some layups, get you some floaters, catch a couple lives. Got to get that three ball percentage up. You know, we, we can say what we want, but shooting 20 something from the damn 39 days is a point guard ain't gonna cut it, bro. You know, you got to get in the lab. I'm talking about should be in there right now tonight. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

You know, like. Yes, yes. Like last year.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. Hey. Hey, Uncle Joe.

[Erin Andrews]

I'm.

[Uncle Joe]

I'm happy, I'm happy he's gone. Obviously, you know, my, my. I was wanted him, you know, down here in Miami. I think as far as leaving Memphis and having a reset, a mental reset and having a change of scenery, obviously I don't think Miami would have been the right place for Jaw even with the infrastructure that the Heat have as far as, you know, discipline and being able to watch over their players and those inside that organization always knowing where their players are at all times. I, I think Portland is, is a good place. It's a good place. It's. It's not, it's not too fast. It's a good city. And, and for him to have a

[Joe]

restart fast at all.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, hey, for him to have a restart on his career, I think he's in a good place and he's around some good people. Obviously Dane being. Being in the game for a very long time is someone that can, he can take up on his wings and you know, so, you know, so young boy the ropes on, on how to conduct himself with this fresh start that he's having. So, I mean, I'm excited for John. I'm excited to see, you know, what he does. He put up a post on his Instagrams about, you know, those that, that have counted him out, you know, so I'm curious to see. I'm curious to see the bounce back.

[Joe]

Me too. Yeah, I. Hopefully he gets it. Look, if you was around me and I got in trouble, you can't go to Portland.

[Ocho]

Hello? Hello?

[Joe]

I'm just keeping it real with yo Joe. At any point in time. Yeah, you damn sure ain't going with me. You the one that had the damn IG live on when I had the stick out. Yeah, you definitely can't go.

[Uncle Joe]

I remember that. You know what's hard, though?

[Ocho]

No, no,

[Uncle Joe]

Joe, I know what you're gonna say. It's very hard to let certain people in your entourage go because the first thing they start saying is, oh, you change. Oh, you ain't.

[Joe]

I did. You're supposed to.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey, hold up. What we just talk about yesterday? Assets and liabilities, bro.

[Uncle Joe]

Come on, Joe.

[Ocho]

Come on, man. Come on, come on. Hey, hey, hey, hey. You gotta understand, okay? Ocho, the man that missed out, he already missed out on down the 200 something million dollars. You know what I'm saying? You think I'm finna let. No, boy, I probably go to Portland by myself.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, Ocho. Now you just. You just left Memphis. You going to Portland. You mess right around. Guess where your next stop be. Sumpton, South Carolina. Where you're from. You gotta realize these teams don't need you. Yeah, they're a billion dollar entities. They're a billion dollar entity with five guys off the street.

[Ocho]

Hey, but look, I tell y' all one thing. I'm happy for him. That black and red gonna look nice on him. Them black and red jaws gonna look good. He's still gonna have top three, you know, five shoe out. Look, man, hey, you get a whole nother chance, bro. You get. You gotta lock in, twin. You gotta lock in, get to it. You gotta show them, boy, what they missing, man. Hey, hey, we've been missing. Hey, look, he ain't got to shoot the gun, throw the grenades and all that, but I want. Yeah, I like to see him active. I like to see him going. You know what I mean?

[Joe]

Yeah, rit, you too.

[Ocho]

Yeah, Pops, you. We gotta get right, baby.

[Joe]

Okay, T. You too.

[Ocho]

Gotta get right. Gotta give me right.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey. You know what the NBA basketball needs? Job. They don't need him, but basketball still need ja.

[Ocho]

He great.

[Uncle Joe]

That. That job that's having fun. That job that's playing above the rim, you know, that. That. That job that's entertaining and polarizing. That job that's putting no butts in the seats, giving people a reason to Come watch. Watch games. We need that job back.

[Ocho]

Hey, and when you look at it.

[Joe]

And he can be that, but he needs to be that. He needs to be off the court. So that carries on the court.

[Uncle Joe]

Court. Yeah.

[Joe]

Because his. His life, his world got chaotic off the court.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And he couldn't do two things at once, and it affected his play on the court.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe]

He's not. Ain't nobody. Ain't nobody looking at y' all the last three years, even though he only played 79 games and say that's the job they remember from four or five years ago.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Joe]

Let's be all the way real. Ain't no. Ain't nobody having that discussion. That's why I was so think about what he went for at one point in time. Job was people thought, taught my job. Like, he's a. He was a top 10 player.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Hey, hey, he was a guy, man. He took those challenges playing against Kyrie and Dame, you know, playing against some of the top point guards back then. Steph Curry, you know, he always held his own. You know, I mean, but I think we all seen this coming because they got rid of all the veteran help, bro. You know, all the guys.

[Joe]

Oh, you know, when they traded Desmond Bane and they took. And they traded Triple J, you know, he's next.

[Ocho]

Yeah. And Brooks, he traded. I mean, you trade. You trade your dogs.

[Joe]

They let Brooks walk. And Brooks says, I'm happy to walk because y' all told me I was the fourth best option. I can never show. Yeah, I like, I can play defense. But hey, don't get upset when I shoot the ball one time and everybody else doesn't shot it 15 times. And y' all look at y' all side, right?

[Ocho]

So.

[Joe]

But y' all got me guarding kd. Y' all got me guarding Jason Tatum, Y' all got me guarding LeBron. Y' all got me chasing Steph. Damn.

[Ocho]

Curry.

[Joe]

But when I take one shot, y' all looking all crazy.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So it was a no brainer for him to leave to go to Houston, somebody that valued a defensive player, but now he looking at everybody else. They're like, hold on. He shoot 25 times. He shoot 20 times. I shoot five times. Y' all looking at me like I'm crazy.

[Ocho]

Hey, man, I. I just want to see. I want to see. The young man had different body. Lang body language don't lie, Uncle Oo. You know, you. You can tell when a guy out there really enjoying himself, having fun. He loving the game. You know, maybe he is going through something that's off the court. But hell, once you get on the court, bro, all that's supposed to. You know what I mean? Like, you supposed to be able to lock in to where you just. You block out all that for the next two hours and you tap. You know what I mean? So I just want to see him get back to having fun, man, because you right, Ocho. He is great for the game. The game needs him. And listen, you get a chance to play with another elite guard. Him and Dame, yeah, they may be a little small back there, but, man, you gotta switch your game up now because. Yep, you gonna get to handle the rock. You gonna get to run pick and roll, you gonna be able to playmate. But at the same time, you gotta be able to play off the ball. And defensively, because of that long, wiry frame that he has, I think he can be a solid defender, bro. He just has to want to. You know what I mean? Like, he gotta be able. He gotta be able to affect the game more than just like giving you points. You feel me? Like, he one of them guys who probably gonna have to change his game a little bit.

[Joe]

Yeah. Oh, Joe, Joe.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Defense is all about want you. I see when they put a lot on the guy's plate, when you ask a guy to do a ton, it's hard for him to exert that kind of effort offensively. And defense run the offense. Go give us 25 points a night, rebound and facilitate. You're asking a guy to do a. To do. That's why you have other guys. You see Shay, they say, shay, we need you to score. Hey, you give us five, six rebounds, we'll take it. You give us four, five, three, four, five assists, we'll take that, too. But I tell you what, Lou Dort, Chet Wallace, Caruso, Joe, y' all better defend at the elite level.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

You understand, you got roles. Every what business. If you go look at any business, they got a CEO, they got a president, a vp, a coo, a cfo. You got. You got manager, you got a regional manager, you got a branch manager, you got cashiers, you got guards, you got. Everybody got a role. The problem that you run into when somebody's a branch manager thinking he the regional manager, and they're thinking he the CFO or the co, the vp, the president. Whoa, whoa. No, no, no, no. We hired you. We got those jobs. Those spots failed, Joe. Those spots. Yeah, but this is. This is. He gets a new lease on life. Hey, that's behind him.

[Uncle Joe]

Move on.

[Joe]

They didn't I don't believe they wanted.

[Ocho]

They.

[Joe]

I don't believe they wanted to get rid of John, but he became more problem than what he worth. Had he been healthy. Giving you 30 a night, Joe.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Okay. We could. We can put up.

[Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Joe]

Oh, y', all. What is it? Production. What? When production is here, tolerance is up here. Production can't be here in tolerance up here. That ain't gonna work. I don't give a damn who you are.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, you're gonna be good.

[Joe]

Production didn't match the tolerance that he was asking from him. And we understand that. It's not. It's not. No, they didn't dislike jaw and everything. They're just like, bro, it's always something with you. First of all, you're doing this crazy stuff off the court, and you hurt. And you hurt. You hear the stories about James Harden, man, James Hard a Vegas, he apart. James hard getting you 35 a night. James Harden gives you 51 triple doubles. You see the difference?

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe]

LT. Well, you go out there and win three defensive player of the Year, and you win MVP as a defensive player.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe]

You can sleep in the meetings.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, you were crazy.

[Joe]

Yeah, you could. Hey, man, Giant Stadium look lit up. I wonder what's going on. Damn. We got a game. Tell y' all the story. How he. He run it. Hey, he running late for the plane. He pull up the valet, flipped the guy the keys. Hey, pick me up Sunday night at such and such a time, man. He got some stories for you, man.

[Ocho]

Hey.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, Bill. Hey, Bill. Hey, Bill. Got the best stories on lt, man.

[Joe]

Yes, because Bill was the DC Ocho. You're right. Go ahead.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, man. As he told some of those stories, man, just, you know, in. In private settings. I don't know.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Public settings, but. Well. Lt was a while.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Joe. Oh, man.

[Joe]

Hey, you go to the hall and you get lt. Because he normally. Him and Ricky Jackson. Him and Ricky Jackson really, really cool.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And, man, they get. They get to tell the stories. Oh, man. I'm like, lord, have mercy. Lt.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh.

[Joe]

Because as a matter of fact, Ricky Jack and LT Came out the same year. All of them came out in the same. In 81 draft. LT Singletary, Ronnie Lott, Dennis Smith, Ken Easley, all of them came out in the same. All the same guys came out the same. Came out in that 81 draft. Oh, JoJo. So he and Ricky Jack are really, really cool, but bad. That joker there, boy, he was a hit. Boy, look here.

[Ocho]

I hate.

[Joe]

I wish LT could have Played in this era.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So people could see how. Because you. You. When you. We think, you see Aaron Donald, you see J.J. watt, you see Miles Garrett, he's all of them wrapped in one.

[Uncle Joe]

But he wouldn't have been able to play. He would have been suspended. Hey, Joe boy, he. Man, he didn't play.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Protect who? Protect what? Quarterback. Yeah, okay. Nah.

[Joe]

Hey, he the lt, Chop. LT was taking the ball. He's the only player. He's the. He's the most. When you talk about. He's the only player that made two position famous. He made the left tackle famous and he made the edge famous because you had to get somebody to block him and you had to find somebody like him. So the Michael Parsons, the T.J. watts, the Vaughn Millers, the DeMarcus Ware, all those guys, he did that. And so all these left tackles that you see.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe]

The Garrett Zimmermans and all those guys, he did that. He made two positions famous. And look how they get paid. Who made the most money? Who made the most money on the offensive line? Left tackle. Who made the most money on the. On the defensive line? The edge. Russian edge.

[Uncle Joe]

Russia.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Well, hey, look here. I can make a. He the greatest defensive player. I can make a case that he's the greatest player. He ain't getting out of the three. So whoever you think, if you like Joe, if you. Excuse me, if you like Tom, Jerry and lt. For me, those are the three.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Now, I can make a compelling case for all of them being number one. But when it comes to defensive players, not him, dealing with. So that would. That would be the equivalent to somebody coming in, they win defensive Rookie of the Year and Defensive Player of the Year in the same draft and the same year. Remember now, the sack didn't become an official stat until 1982. Lt came in at 81. So prior to that, they really didn't keep stacks. Sacks of the station. They know my business, though. Portland. So Joe Harris, Portland, they got Ja Dame, Lillard, Holiday School, Henderson, and my cousin Shay.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, look, they ain't really. If you really think about it, on Osho, they really had to give up nothing. I like Jeremy Grant, don't get me wrong, you know, and I like the Chris Murray kid, who's a shooter, but you really have to really tap into too much of your youth. Meaning, like school. Shane Sharp, who still has the potential to be.

[Joe]

I don't know why they didn't play him, though. Joe, we need to talk about that.

[Ocho]

I think that Danny, the Danny Kid, Uncle Ocho, who's all star this past year. I think he surprised a lot of damn people. If you want me to keep it 100. So they got some good problems, I'll probably say, over there in Portland. But hey, just like Minnesota. I think Portland will be fun to watch. You know, obviously making the A seed. I don't. I mean, I don't know how good this is going to make them. You know, you lose a guy like Jeremy Grant, man, he. He's a prototypical guy who you want on your team, you know, I think he could be a good piece, you know, for a good championship contender.

[Uncle Joe]

Team.

[Joe]

Yeah. Hey, I just want to see Dame shoot the ball from 35, man.

[Ocho]

I'm talking about act a fool with it ain't a man. Hey, hit you with this.

[Joe]

Yeah. Hey, I mean, it. It just so half a fake about it. If there's no Steph Curry, he's the greatest shooter of all time. He just so happens to be in the same era as the guy that's the greatest shooter of all time.

[Uncle Joe]

Right?

[Joe]

In fact, I mean, if you think about. Look at all these guys that was in Tigers era. Vijay Singh was really good. Phil Mickelson is really good golfer. Ernie Ells is a really good golfer. They just happen to be playing when Tiger played.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, I got a question, though.

[Joe]

Yes, huh?

[Uncle Joe]

You said outside of Steph Curry, the greatest shooter is Damon Lillard. So where do we put Clay in that conversation?

[Joe]

He ain't better than Dame, huh? Not to me.

[Uncle Joe]

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Joe]

Not to me. I'm taking Dame. Look, because I think the thing is, because the way he can shoot off the dribble and the weight, the distance in which he can shoot it.

[Uncle Joe]

Right, Okay, I see what you're saying.

[Joe]

Only Steph Curry can ride with the distance. Did you see the shot he hit on? I mean, he's hitting buzzer beaters against Houston. Hit a buzzer, beat okc. Okc.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I know.

[Joe]

And to shoot the ball from where he.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, real talk, Ocho, he like one of my favorite guys to watch, bro. I ain't gonna lie. Like, when it comes to guards, like, you know, he take his matchup serious. He take it personal. He compete at the highest level. But like unse, you know, he got. He shoots 20. I mean, he at least another 7 to 10ft behind the 3. You know, it's hard to guard guys like that. Listen, it ain't many guys who gonna

[Joe]

pull up that deep.

[Ocho]

You got to be practicing that, Uncle Osho. That man practiced those shots for sure. You Know what I mean? To be able to shoot him with confidence in the game. Them long, that one step, two steps across half court and you letting it go. Come on, bro.

[Joe]

Only two guys in the history of the game that you've had to pick up at half court. Steph Curry and Dame Lillard. Yeah, you let them see space if you want to from 30ft.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, you remember, remember.

[Joe]

Do you remember that Saturday night game when Steph pulled up, they was down the whole night and he pulled up against OKC and he started.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, remember Damon Russ was going, yeah,

[Ocho]

yeah, that used to be my favorite one.

[Uncle Joe]

And that, that's the game he, he whatever shot he hit and he had that.

[Ocho]

Yeah, he did that.

[Uncle Joe]

Bye bye.

[Joe]

Yeah, that was the one. Yeah,

[Uncle Joe]

I remember that.

[Ocho]

Over Paul Joy. Paul Joy. Cause look, even watching the game, I'm like, damn, man, it's three seconds, that man ain't even making no move yet. So if I was guarding him, I would have been like Paul George too. I'm like, hell, man, we 40ft out the damn we.

[Joe]

Thank you. You mean to tell me I ain't finna do nothing crazy? Cause I know he got handles he can get by me. Hey, you wanna sit out here, bull job around, I'm Gonna let you three

[Ocho]

seconds on the clock. Ocho, you 40ft from the basket. I'm like, hell, I'm gonna stand there too. Cause I don't think you see the damn clock and this man Sidestep you 40ft out. Cash money. Come on, bro.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, you take a lot of confidence.

[Ocho]

Work, working confidence.

[Joe]

Hey, I mean, that joker, man. Hey, you remember that? There was a couple of games, like, man, he was going crazy like in the bubble. He dropped 50 something on, on the Nuggets. I mean, he got a 70 point game. I think he got that against.

[Ocho]

Hold on, you know what? You know what made him cold blooded to me? Because I remember when Kobe passed away and the first game the Lakers played, the tribute game, was against Portland in la. Ocho, that man came in LA and showed his ass. Do you hear me, man?

[Joe]

He put on a 40 piece on him.

[Ocho]

I said, I said, dame gotta be the most disrespectful mofo I know to come in, you know what I'm saying? But when you think about it, on Kobe's night, he would want it no other way. You know what I mean? And bro, he put on a performance, bro. I think he had like 40 something. But he cut, he cut a rug on them boys at night.

[Joe]

Yeah, he did. Meanwhile, Memphis has traded all three of his former franchise cornerstones. John Morant, Desmond Bain, Jaren Jackson Jr. Since being swept by OKC. Then the the Thunder in the first round of 2025 playoffs. I think it was with a game three.

[Ocho]

Yeah they was up that they had

[Joe]

a 20 something point lead in joggers ankle and they came all the way down and we know they weren't going to win. It looked like they might have been able to win that game. I don't think for me they was going to win that series but they would have won that game and then once that. But you know, hey, they started disassembling it piece by piece. You see Jasmine bang, go to Orlando. You see them send Triple J off to Utah accumulating picks. They probably got what seven first round picks now.

[Ocho]

I don't think. I don't think they really initially really wanted to get rid of Ja. I think but with the injury starting to pile up on him. Uncle Ocho.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

You know why? He still has some pretty good value. Maybe we need to go and get off of. Maybe he need a fresh start.

[Joe]

And he got two years left on that deal. What normally happens with two years left on the deal. Joe. Yeah, do it. Redo it. What, what, what, what, what that means. So he make. He got two years at 87 million. So that's 43 and a half. He 26. He ain't looking to go under 47 and a half. 30 or 43 and a half. He looking to go above that, right?

[Uncle Joe]

Yes sir.

[Joe]

So that means you're gonna have to pay what, 50, 55. Listen, he's like nah, I can't, I can't in good conscious do that given your injury history and your behavior.

[Ocho]

And this is why I say this is a great refreshing start for him because he still can get to that bag on oo. His ass just got to be available and he got to be ready to play period, point blank. You come out and show your butt this year, man. Hey, the next summer we'll be talking about Jon got, you know, xyz, you got the bag?

[Joe]

Yes, sir.

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[Uncle Joe]

revitalize his career out there in Portland.

[Joe]

The Celtics are asking for four first round draft.

[Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe]

Jalen Brown and the Trailblazers are seen as front runners to win the sweepstake per Sam Amick. The Celtics per league sources have been asking for up to four picks Portland seen as front runners there. Now think about it. Mikhail Bridges, what did he go for? What's the guy from Memphis went to Orlando. What did he go Desmond Bain, what did he go for? I think we're all in agreeance. Jalen Brown is a better player than Desmond Bain and Mikhail Bridges. Yeah, both guys are. All three guys are two way players. Desmond Bain plays defense. When he was in Memphis and they had him and Brooks and Triple J, they were outstanding on the defensive end. We know Mikhail Bridges a defensive guy. That's why they got him in New York. Jalen Brown is the better of those three players. Those players, if I'm not mistaken, went for up to three, excuse me, four first round picks.

[Ocho]

Man, listen. And then y' all want to know oh man, why jb? Why Jalen Brown got his. He sold his penthouse in Boston for 12 or 14 million. Why is up for sale? Hell, why you think it's up for sale? Hell, every time he turn around that man name and conversation, bro. The Celtics, they getting rid of him this offseason. Uncle oo for sure.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Oh, that's a fact now. I mean it's just too much going on, bro.

[Uncle Joe]

I did. I'm just curious. Where you going, Uncle Joe? Who has assets to get him? Based on what? The Celtics are few teams, Brown. Who? Who?

[Joe]

Well, it seems like Portland got the assets. That would have looked like to me, because guess what? They got assets from when they gave. They got traded, Dane.

[Ocho]

Yeah. And Boston ain't gonna want to keep him. They ain't gonna want him to stay in the East. They gonna try to get his ass out the Eastern Conference. If you gonna trade him.

[Uncle Joe]

I don't think you want to go to Portland, though.

[Ocho]

Anybody where here you won't go. They got banks in Portland, too, though. You know that, don't you?

[Joe]

Sure do.

[Ocho]

See, they got bags in Portland.

[Joe]

Hey, Joe, y' all get played on the 1st of the 15th, right?

[Ocho]

Hello? Hello?

[Joe]

Okay. That's all I need to know.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Look, everybody talking about, man, damn, you leaving Miami? You going to Utah? Yeah, last time I checked, Utah got banks, too. Hey, I would like to stay in Miami, you know, with D. Wade and Pat Riley. But. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And hey, hey, if Pat giving D. Wade here, ain't no need me talking to him. I go on down here to Utah. Yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, hey. I'm going where I'm appreciated, not tolerated.

[Ocho]

Yeah. I'm gone. I'm gone. Yeah, yeah, but.

[Joe]

But that's the thing. They gonna pin it on us is y' all been trying to break these two up for years. No, Boston has been trying to break these two up for years. Boston has always. And I hate using term always and never and ever. Boston has prioritized. Look favorable. Excuse me. More favorable. Believe more in Jayson Tatum than Jaylen Brown. Yeah, we can surmount all that other stuff and yada, yada, wooty, woo, woo. And I remember I was having a conversation, Joe, with somebody two days ago. I said, let me ask you this. And Joe, I would. And I say, you know, and everything for the last, like, a week, it's been sleeping in my mind. I said, I want to ask Joe this. If the roles were reversed, JB is on the Olympic team. Jason Tatum, with the credentials that JB has, and he's getting DMPs. He's playing three minutes, four minutes in the Olympics. Is he gonna handle it like Jason Tatum?

[Ocho]

Hell, no. Hell no.

[Uncle Joe]

2. Two completely different people in the way they react and respond to things. Completely different.

[Ocho]

And this is probably why. This is probably the reason why JB is in the situation he's in, because he's so outspoken.

[Joe]

Yep.

[Ocho]

You know, What I mean. But no, no, no. I can't see him. Hey. Hey. What y' all done brought me all the way down here. You mean, tell me I can't get

[Joe]

no minutes because you know there's some DMPs for potato.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I mean, look, though. But you gotta. You gotta understand, Uncle Ocho here, he playing behind Katie and Braun. Damn. Ain't like he playing behind. You know what I mean?

[Joe]

Yeah, but that. That's that. And me. And me and the guy was having a conversation. I said, well, what, you know, he's asking me. I said, what you think? He said, no, I don't think he'd have been. I don't think he would have handled it like Jason Tatum did.

[Ocho]

No.

[Joe]

We'll never know. I know he's upset about that, and rightfully so, because he's looking at guys that I'm better than. And you take. First of all, you take two guys. You took. First of all, you took three guys from my team. If you take Jason Tatum, I. You know what? Hey, right, But I'm the finals mvp. But anyway. But you took two other guys.

[Ocho]

Yeah, two. Hey, hey, they fit. They fit the system. They fit the system we trying to run. Look, just so happening. If they don't get no minute, hell, they ain't gonna be complaining.

[Joe]

They ain't gonna say nothing. Shoot, no shot. They ain't looking to do nothing. Devin Booker put it out there early. Devin Booker said, I do whatever y' all need me to do. Book say I just want to be on the Olympic team.

[Uncle Joe]

Right.

[Joe]

There's a good chance it'll be LeBron. It'll be stuck, Steph, maybe even KD's last Olympics. Last time. That big three, that generation plays together before we transition.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Devin Booker said, whatever y' all need me to do, but he played it.

[Ocho]

Hey, Devin Booker played his role to the T, though, okay?

[Joe]

Absolutely. Look at Ant Man.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He plays.

[Uncle Joe]

He.

[Ocho]

Ant man plays some minutes, but it probably wasn't as many minutes as he would have liked.

[Uncle Joe]

Like.

[Joe]

Yeah, hey, because. Remember the first time they said. Curtis said. Ant man said, I need you to. I said, I need you to be. What you call him. I forgot who he said.

[Ocho]

He said d. Wade, I think he said. Cause D. Wade came off the bench or something.

[Joe]

Yes, he said, but you make it seem like you got Jordans out there. Yeah. D. Wade was glad. Them guys you tried to get me to come behind. Ah, nah.

[Ocho]

Right? Hey, D. Wade was playing behind Kobe at the time. That. What, he was there.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

He got Kobe out there.

[Joe]

Exactly. He's like, yes. That's what he said, Joe. He said, well, damn, what a Kobe. I looked around. I don't see no damn Kobe.

[Ocho]

Right, right.

[Joe]

And for this to keep getting out. You see, Ocho, they get mad at us. We talk about, oh, who put this out? How you know? How would anybody even know, right? Guess what didn't get out? That Luca trade. Why? Two people knew they wanted out. Exactly.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey.

[Joe]

Exactly. They think they slick correct the mundo.

[Uncle Joe]

Everything that gets out, they put it out purposely. Anything they don't want out, it ain't getting out.

[Ocho]

It's even said that they Damn. They damn Asians didn't even damn know.

[Joe]

They did not. It's being reported that Nico and. And what you call it? Met for a cup of coffee. Yeah. Look innocent.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

First of all, you'd have never thought Luka Doncic would be brought up in a trade. So it. Hell, yeah, it looked innocent. There have never been no whispers or anything.

[Ocho]

I gotta hear my guy Nico. I gotta check on Nico, see what he own.

[Joe]

Everybody know.

[Uncle Joe]

You know Nico.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

That's the owner. But somebody gotta take the fall, Joe.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.

[Joe]

That's how it works.

[Uncle Joe]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[Ocho]

Yeah, Ocho, that was my. That was my Nike rip when I was in the league, bro. Whenever I needed something, I hit Nico. Nico come to the A hangout, you know, that was my guy, bro.

[Uncle Joe]

Okay, okay, okay. When I came to the A, you ain't hang out with me, man.

[Ocho]

You talking about. Oh, you always talking about old. So come on.

[Uncle Joe]

That was two weeks, Joe. That was two weeks ago.

[Ocho]

It's old, Ocho. It's old. Move on.

[Joe]

But. But you know who will show up before you at the end, right, Ocho?

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, I appreciate that.

[Joe]

Hey, I'm like an old shoe.

[Uncle Joe]

Yes, sir.

[Joe]

Comfortable and reliable.

[Uncle Joe]

Yes, sir. I appreciate that.

[Joe]

I appreciate that.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, you know, me and we know we had a good old. You know, we, you know, had a good old time, man.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I already know y'.

[Uncle Joe]

All.

[Joe]

We ain't gonna put that. Joe. I ain't gonna.

[Ocho]

I ain't gonna put.

[Joe]

I ain't gonna put your business out there how you did me.

[Ocho]

All right, listen, listen, listen.

[Uncle Joe]

I know y'.

[Ocho]

All. Hey, hey. Huh?

[Uncle Joe]

Hey. The same way he did you. That's how he did me.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I already know. I already know. Y' all gonna try to do me how they did Kyrie.

[Joe]

No, no, no, no.

[Ocho]

I know that's how y' all gonna do me. I know that's how y' all gonna do me. It's okay.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, Joe, we talked about it on the show.

[Ocho]

It's okay. It's okay. I'll see y' all in a few weeks. I'll see y' all in a few weeks.

[Joe]

I'll see y' all in a few weeks.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

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[Joe]

Hey, Ocho. Joe, are you sure you gonna show up for that?

[Ocho]

Yeah, I got my ducks in order for that now.

[Joe]

Okay. Okay.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, what duck? What ducks? You need to come, boy. Hey, you love everybody, Joe. Hey, I'm starting to think you don't wear the pants over there, boy.

[Ocho]

Whoa, whoa.

[Uncle Joe]

I'm starting to think.

[Joe]

Hey, Joseph Johnson.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey. I'm starting to think he don't wear

[Joe]

the pants over there. Joseph Johnson from Arkansas South. That's one thing about them boys from the South. Them boys from the south, they wear pants.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, hey, he don't wear them in that house usually. If he did, he would have showed up for us.

[Ocho]

You saying. You saying I don't run my house? I'm running around my house?

[Joe]

Yeah, that's what they say. That's what he said. Running around it corner to corner.

[Ocho]

That what he trying to say.

[Joe]

Hey.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, Joe. Everybody. Everybody showed up to Houston except you, Joe.

[Ocho]

Ocho. Ocho. I had some things to take care of, Uncle Ocho.

[Uncle Joe]

I know what that means. Hey, Unc. I know what that means. She told his dad. No.

[Ocho]

Nah, man. We don't even get down like that over here.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, I know she would.

[Ocho]

We don't get down like that.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. Okay.

[Ocho]

Real talk.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, we've been talking about this for. For two months on the show, and then it come down to show up. You don't even show up.

[Joe]

All I know is that we don't put the thing in. We say the three. All three of the. The big three showing up for nightcap. And it's gonna be very disappointing if two of the three show up.

[Ocho]

Damn. Damn.

[Joe]

But we have your name tag in your chair, Joseph John.

[Ocho]

No, no, no, no, no. I'm gonna see y' all in a couple. In a few weeks. Hey, man, y' all gotta stop acting like that, for real. Okay, Ocho? For real. Oh, you gotta chill. You gotta chill, for real. You gotta chill.

[Uncle Joe]

What you mean, Joe? You stood me up in Atlanta. You stood us up in Houston. Like. I mean. What you want me to do?

[Ocho]

What? Why you.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, Joe. That's two times, Joe. You got one more and I'm on your ass.

[Ocho]

You hear me, boy? I'm on your ass already. You don't even know it. You hear me? All right. Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

All right. Okay.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Don't get me started tonight. I'm trying to be cool. My birthday at 12 o' clock in less than an hour. Man, don't y' all starve me tonight. For real. For real.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. When your birthday, Joe?

[Ocho]

The 29th Ocho. Which is Monday. Which is tomorrow.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, what you doing tomorrow? You want me to come out to Atlanta?

[Ocho]

No, I got me and my fam. Me and my family, we doing a little something something. Is this something?

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, oh, so I can't come hang out with the family?

[Ocho]

Nah, nah, not right now. Oh, not right now.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey, hey, Uncle, I think he in the doghouse.

[Ocho]

Nah, what woman do.

[Uncle Joe]

I don't know.

[Joe]

Cause he told.

[Uncle Joe]

He said I can't.

[Joe]

The old lady, she might be upstairs listening. Let's not call.

[Ocho]

First off, y' all got to check. Y' all really gotta chill. Y' all gotta chill. I don't do. I. I don't sit nothing, do nothing, but. But sit here and hang out with y'. All. I ain't nothing like that. Ain't nothing like that.

[Joe]

I gotta look here, Joe, you. Hey, we close. We. We 10 minutes apart from each other. If you ever need a place to stay, you good? Hey, Joe. We ten minutes apart, Joe. Hey, ain't nobody that. You take my bedroom. You take my bedroom.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. Hey, Joe, if you in Miami, boy, you know, I got about six. I got six bedrooms over here. Boy, you always got, you know, a place to stay. Stay.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, we. We. We.

[Joe]

We gu.

[Ocho]

Over here. Hey, I appreciate the justice. I appreciate the justice, though. Don't, don't, don't. Don't get me wrong, but we gucc over here. You feel me?

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it sound good.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, we Gucci.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, it sound good. I mean, if you was Gucci, you would have been. You would have showed up to Houston. It was only 24 hours.

[Ocho]

Hey, enough was enough. Enough is enough. Okay, I'm.

[Uncle Joe]

I'm just making sure. We wasn't even. I mean, sh. I.

[Ocho]

We can't hear you. Huh? That's how we know. That's some BS you talking about. Who that uncle? It wasn't meant for nobody here. Leave it alone, huh?

[Joe]

You got me now?

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, I got you.

[Uncle Joe]

I got you.

[Joe]

What happened was. See, here we go. If you go there, this here is off.

[Ocho]

Hmm. What?

[Joe]

He had to choose Nightcap, Ocho and Unk or. And he made the wise decision.

[Uncle Joe]

Okay, I got you. I got you. You're right, you're right, you're right.

[Ocho]

Wow.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, you know, I mean, he in the house, he in the house, but he don't run nothing. I got what you said.

[Ocho]

I'm running out. I ain't running the house, I'm running around the house.

[Uncle Joe]

Yes sir.

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[Uncle Joe]

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[Joe]

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[Uncle Joe]

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[Joe]

According to ESPN's Ramona Shelburne, the Heat are not planning to have any of Giannis's brother join him in Miami. There won't be any Antetokounmpo brothers in Miami. That whole we have Costas. We have finances on the team. I don't think there's going to continue. From what I understand, Alex at the Takumpo was reportedly lined up for a deal with Greek. Whatever this team is in 2020. While the NASAs is looking for a job, the Heat have no space for waste as a team has serious salary cap issues after adding Giannis and Bobby Porters. Joe, rise. Like, look here. Therapy, man. Hey, and that's. Think about it. Now, Milwaukee went above and beyond to have brothers on a team, and they're not contributing. They don't add any value to your team, only to appease the brother. And they did that. So we know Milwaukee went above and beyond what was required and what was necessary in order to make sure Giannis was happy. I'm not surprised by this, Joe. Are you surprised that Pat says we want you, not all of you?

[Ocho]

Hell, no, I ain't surprised. Uncle Ocho, listen, growth and maturity, you know, it's gonna be very uncomfortable. So if you've never played without your brothers being there, damn it, so be it.

[Joe]

Hey, hey.

[Ocho]

We need you to get aboard. We trying to win a title. We ain't about pleasing you and our man.

[Joe]

Y' all know that. He played, like, nine, ten years without his damn brothers, and he was just fine.

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[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Or at least seven or eight. I don't know. Maybe they was on the team. Maybe. Maybe one of them was on the team. But we won a championship in 21. Yeah, but he played seven, eight years without his brothers, and he was just fine.

[Ocho]

Listen, now, if you got them living with you, that's one thing. They come to the game, they sit their ass in the stands like everybody else. Yeah. It don't be no special treatment. Now, we ain't doing that around here. No.

[Joe]

Ocho, you surprised?

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah. No, I ain't rightly.

[Uncle Joe]

Don't play that. Now, anything that's coming over here, brother, cousin, uncle or not, can they contribute to helping us better? Can they contribute to us winning in any way? Absolutely not. I'm not being disrespectful to his brothers, not at all. But obviously, what we trying to build is we trying to get up. We trying to get ourselves back in east and being contenders. Bringing your brother here is one thing. Bringing Giannis here is one thing, and we ain't bring. We can't. We can't bring. We can't bring the rest of the baggage.

[Joe]

Now, if. Can they help us, can they help us win?

[Uncle Joe]

That's it. That's all it come down to, huh?

[Ocho]

Hey, man, I know that he got some. They still got some moves they gonna make, but I like the additions. I like, obviously Greek freak. I like Bobby Portis. I Like, bam. I mean, guys that work hard, that's going to lead the right way, and that's going to upheld that culture that's over there in Miami. Hunkin Ocho. That's the biggest thing, bro. Be a hard worker. Hell, that's 90% of the damn of the deal right there. If you can get through that. You know what I mean? You got to have to put some work in over there, boy.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And I don't think that's gonna be an issue for Giannis. But the thing is that when you go to another team, you gotta realize that team, the other team that you came from, they accurate to all your demands.

[Ocho]

Yep.

[Joe]

What made it so. You remember, Miles Turner put it out there. Bobby tried to smooth it over, but it was no smoothing it over.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

We waiting an hour. We waiting two hours for y'. All. Meeting started with you. Everybody, everybody was shocked.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

They even took it down. But you can't make me unhear. You can't make me unsee what I've already seen and heard. Damage was done you. After that, there was no way in hell Giannis was going back. No, sir, he wasn't. First of all, he wasn't going back before. But if you had any doubts. And the mere fact of that's who it is. You know, Miles Turner wouldn't lie on that man like that. There's no way, Ocho.

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[Joe]

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[Ocho]

Because you don't even take him for that type of guy, like his character.

[Joe]

No.

[Uncle Joe]

That stuff shouldn't be said anyway. The fact that we know that, the fact that it's even being accepted, you know, in general. How's he gonna go back in that locker room? What?

[Joe]

He wasn't never gonna go back.

[Ocho]

Well, you can't.

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[Ocho]

I mean, you said what you said what you said, Ocho. You can't unsay it. You know what I mean? We heard it.

[Joe]

Yes, you're absolutely right.

[Ocho]

It's a rap. But you right, you know, it's certain things that. That goes unsaid about the locker room, bro. And the things that go on and probably trying to diminish guys character, things of that sort, like, especially when y' all still teammates, you don't do that. You don't do. No, you don't do no shit like that.

[Joe]

No. And the thing. Had he not said that, if they'd have just left it before because they were just going along having a conversation. Well, you know, somebody, you know. Cause Stewie said we get fined for this. Got for that, you know, late for meetings and so forth and so on. If they didn't just say, yeah, we got guys that come late and they miss meetings and they late for the plane. He put a name to it. Yeah, he put a name to it. And the problem that you have is the. Here's my problem. Is that Giannis is that player. See, the thing is, what normally happens, guys that you have the most responsibility, they take it the most serious.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So in other words, you don't do that because all. So if Giannis is showing up two hours a lady for meeting, if. For a plane ride or hour, however, lady showed up, or if he's blowing off, if he's doing. What do you. If he's doing that, who do you follow? You the leader. You say, I follow the leader. That's why you want your leaders to be of. Of purpose, of substance.

[Ocho]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Joe]

And then he wonder why they not winning.

[Ocho]

Yeah, you're right. Them guys gonna follow what the leader doing, bro.

[Joe]

They are. They are, Joe. But I was. I was shocked because I'm listening to it. Cause I was like, you know, normally when we talk. Because we all talk.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

For the most part, Ocho, we leave out names, may name that. No, I'm gonna leave out the name. We don't need to cut. Hey, some of them, you know, married and some got kids and they got grandkids and so forth and so on, and they weren't a part of that at the time. So they don't need to know that side of their dad or their grandfather.

[Ocho]

Absolutely right.

[Joe]

Or their. Or their mom or their grandma. So we gonna leave that out. But to put a name to that, that man say the man, I think he said, I would do check. Correct me if I'm wrong, I was an hour, two hours later, a plane waiting.

[Ocho]

Hey, that ain't normal neither, boy.

[Joe]

No. Hell, no. That ain't no happening in the football. I don't give a damn who it is. Hell no. John Elway, Peyton. They not waiting, not playing. I see you there.

[Ocho]

Nah, hey, hey, in basketball now, they'll give you star players some great time. Now, when I say grace time, I'm talking 20 minutes. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I ain't talking about no damn hour. 45 minutes, two hours. Damn, man.

[Joe]

But you know what? But I think, Joe, to think the way we operate, I couldn't even get good conscience do that. Yeah, I couldn't, Ocho. I couldn't go, man. I couldn't wait to get to work.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

To be late, man. I Couldn't wait to be. To work. I couldn't wait to get to the plane. Because all that hard work, all the training that I did in the off season, all that hard work I do in the course of the week, I'm about to put that on display and put that on somebody's ass.

[Ocho]

Hello? Hello?

[Joe]

Actually, no, I didn't be late for that. Yeah, that's. That's me. That's me. But I. But, Chad, I think y' all know me enough over these three years of seeing me. Y' all know how I am about punctuality.

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[Ocho]

man.

[Joe]

That's all I asked. Hey, what type of person you. You punctual, you. But I was like, boy, I was shocked though, Joe.

[Ocho]

I was too.

[Joe]

I would have never. I would have never thought it would. But first. But here, this is the thing, you know, it had to be somebody that's high ranking, because if it's not, they'd have cut his ass.

[Ocho]

Hell, yeah. Or left him.

[Joe]

Oh, you know how this thing work.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Joe]

Low tier guys. Hey, Jimmy Johnson cut a guy the last game of the season. Dude fumbled twice, cut him, guy fell asleep, Jimmy cut him. The reporter asked him, say, jimmy, if that was Troy. And he fell asleep in a meeting. He said, I woke.

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[Joe]

all the time. He said, I'm gonna treat y' all all fair. I ain't gonna treat y' all all the same.

[Ocho]

Now, fact, fact, I didn't seen it happen, man. I seen guys being late and get left the bus leave them, the plane leave them. Yeah. I done seen guys get cut behind it. I didn't seen it all, bro.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, that's funny.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe]

But I. I just. I think it has a lot to do with upbringing Barney and Mary Porter.

[Ocho]

And how bad you want it, too.

[Joe]

Well, how bad you want an ass cutting?

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Well, I ain't want it. Yeah.

[Ocho]

No, you.

[Joe]

Well, look here, when Barney Porter say, we. Hey, we going to church. When Barney Porter. Hey, when that. When that car crank up.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Everybody better be in there, or we ride on the back of the truck and your Sunday clothes going to church. Yeah. Barney and Mary, they play that.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, you. You go to that old juke joint, you get there on time.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Be in the Lord's house on time.

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[Joe]

They ain't play that.

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[Joe]

boy, Lord have me mercy. I don't really have a whole lot of rules to govern by. Hey, somebody come, they want a job to think. Hey, hey, Ash, you know what? Hey, you know the number? What? The number one thing Is other than working hard, being on time.

[Ocho]

Hey, not only that, though. Not only being on time. Okay. Oo. But just being a hell of an asset, bro. You know what I'm saying? It's like, even with my yoga thing, my yoga studio, the people that we hire, bro, I just want you to not only enjoy what you do, but I want you to be a hell of an asset. You know what I mean? Like, damn. Really, really, really appreciate what it is that you get a chance to do. Whether it's teaching people, whatever the case may be, whether it's. Hell, me on Nightcap, man, I just try to be a hell of an asset, bro.

[Uncle Joe]

Mm.

[Joe]

You one of two things, Joe Ocho. You wanted two things. What are you? You're an asset or you're a liability?

[Uncle Joe]

Liability.

[Joe]

Hey, what are you.

[Uncle Joe]

That's a good one.

[Joe]

And people get off liabilities, man.

[Ocho]

What Queen.

[Joe]

They like to acquire. They like to acquire and accumulate assets.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

The more good people and more good workers you have, the better, more productive

[Ocho]

your business will be, man. Bruh, that's it.

[Joe]

That's my mistake. And the therapist told me many years ago, so, Shannon, the biggest thing is that you think people think like you, and you think everybody is good. He's like, you don't think anybody out there would. You might not do that to somebody.

[Uncle Joe]

Right.

[Joe]

But there are lots of people out there that will. And what happens when you come across the ones that will do the exact same? Do the exact. What you wouldn't do, they'll do it to you. I just can't come. I just can't come up. People job or late. Seven years. I was late one time. Power went out. And what you call them in la, man, my heart was jumping through my chest. I called him, said, man, look, I'm so sorry the power went out. I said, I'll be there in 15 minutes. I could have made it to 10, but I got to take a shower. I can't leave my house without taking a shower. I don't give a damn. I can't leave my house without taking a shower. I gotta wash my ass. That was the only time in seven years. That's on me. That's on. That's all. That's on me.

[Ocho]

But I can't. I can't.

[Joe]

I can't do that.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I'm with you.

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