Nightcap Hour 2: Sports Illustrated TOP 10 to NEVER WIN + Kendrick Perkins ALTERCATION at AAU Game + Matthew Stafford BREAKS WR’s FINGERS + Jason Kelce Calls NFL GREEDY + Tusla Drillers SUSPEND Dog Program

Summary

Nightcap: Hour 2 (May 28, 2026)

Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”), Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (“Ocho”), Joe Johnson (“ISO Joe”)

---

EPISODE OVERVIEW

This episode of Nightcap delivers the hosts’ always unfiltered, late-night takes on the latest sports headlines and classic debates, with a special focus on legendary NBA and NFL topics. In this hour, they break down Sports Illustrated’s Top 10 NBA players to never win a title, discuss Kendrick Perkins’ altercation at an AAU game, react to wild stories about NFL quarterbacks, tackle the NFL’s ever-expanding greed for new game days, and riff on baseball dog drama. Throughout, there’s plenty of story-swapping, trash talk, and listener interaction.

---

1. SPORTS ILLUSTRATED’S TOP 10 TO NEVER WIN A RING

Segment Begins: [03:10]

SI’s List Recap

• Carmelo Anthony (#10)
• James Harden
• Patrick Ewing
• George Gervin
• Chris Paul
• Allen Iverson
• John Stockton
• Elgin Baylor
• Charles Barkley (#2)
• Karl Malone (#1)

Discussion & Memories

• The crew agrees Malone was a powerhouse:

  “Carl’s a two-time league MVP…tough as nails, man.” — ISO, [03:41]

• Joe Johnson tells rookie-year story about almost taking a charge from Malone, but smartly stepping aside:

  “Man, I gotta keep my teeth in my mouth. I ain’t gonna be out here trying to take no charge on them…” — Joe Johnson, [04:14]

• The crew reminisces about the “grown men” power forwards of the 80s and 90s, figures like Oakley, Mason, and Barkley, and the roughness of the game then.

  “Them power Fours back then, bro. They were different… grown, grown men.” — ISO, [05:34]

• Notable quote on 80s/90s violence:

  “I don’t know when they started calling flagrant fouls, but it wasn’t no flagrant back then. They lay your ass out, smooth out. O-U-W-T out.” — ISO, [06:15]

Who Deserved a Ring?

• Ocho: “Barkley.” [10:15]
• Joe: “George Gervin or Iverson.” [10:34]
• The group reflects on Allen Iverson’s cultural impact:

  “That little joker transcended the game, bro… they changed the NBA dress code because [of] that man.” — Joe Johnson, [10:46–11:32]

---

2. KENDRICK PERKINS’ AAU COACH ALTERCATION

Segment Begins: [11:53]

• Perkins had to be restrained at his son’s game after a 400-lb. kid on the opposing team body-slammed one of Perkins’ players postgame.

• Perkins’ justification:

  “I’m going to protect every single kid in my organization like they’re my own.” — Paraphrased, [13:00]

• Hosts expose the chaos of the AAU scene, parental over-investment (“parents see their kids as a lottery ticket”), and the trend of holding kids back (reclassing) for sports advantage.

  “Parents look at kids now as a lottery ticket. That’s our ticket to prosperity.” — ISO, [15:44] “You’re holding your kid back just to get the money… kind of hampering them a little bit, especially when it comes to developing your skill.” — Ocho, [17:00]

---

3. MATTHEW STAFFORD BREAKS RECEIVERS’ FINGERS

Segment Begins: [23:02] & [26:45]

• Eric Ebron and “Megatron” (Calvin Johnson) stories:

  “Stafford throw hard as hell. I ain’t never seen no shit like this. He done dislocated four of my fingers.” — Ebron (quoted by ISO), [26:45]

• Comparing Stafford’s arm to Favre, Rodgers, Elway, Marino, Vick, Josh Allen.
• Trick to surviving:

  “Megatron used to tape his fingers this way because Stafford done also up Megatron…he like, ‘I’ma teach you, you know, my ways of just dealing with shit.’” — ISO, [27:18]

---

4. JASON KELCE ON NFL GREED & THE DECLINE OF ‘SUNDAY’

Segment Begins: [30:21]

• Kelce quote: “The league is drifting away from Sunday being the most important day of football…” [paraphrased, 30:22]

• Ocho says Sunday is still the main event; weekday games are about money:

  “Sunday is still the meat and potatoes of the NFL.” — Ocho, [31:10]

• Joe calls out NFL greed:

  “NFL done got greedy as hell. Y’all tryin’ to take over the crib. Trying to take over." — Joe, [32:03]

• Discussion on international games, increasing number of streaming services, and how even Christmas and Thanksgiving have been co-opted.

• Notable Rant:

  “NFL said, we can make lemonade out of anything… squeeze it hard enough.” — ISO, [36:21]

---

5. TULSA DRILLERS SUSPEND BAT DOG PROGRAM

Segment Begins: [40:42]

• Dodgers prospect Kendall George hurt trying to avoid a bat dog on the field.
• Joe: “When somebody gets hurt, you got to go.” — [41:54]
• Playful reminiscing about their own experiences with baseball and throwing out first pitches, Ocho claims he was like Shohei Ohtani in high school.

---

6. LISTENER Q&A: Rapid Fire Hot Takes & Playful Trash Talk

Segment Begins: [50:25]

• Ocho and Joe go back and forth about who would win in basketball, trading classic trash talk (“Trees get chopped down…”, [22:16]).

• Discussion of the value of consistency and confidence when learning a new skill, especially in barbering:

  “Staying consistent, bro… You gotta keep going.” — Joe, [72:43] “Especially barber school—do you know how much pressure on you, boy?” — Ocho, [72:45]

• Reflections on Michael Jordan’s first retirement:

  “I was hurt, bro.” — Joe, [57:08]

• Reminiscing on growing up near crime and gangs, but staying focused as a basketball player:

  “I grew up with them dudes… When you a hooper… you don’t really get touched like that.” — Joe, [78:57]

• On purest baseball swing:

  “Griffey.” — Ocho and Joe, [80:30]

• On international NFL games’ purpose:

  “They just try to take 10, 15% out of [soccer],” — ISO, [82:04]

• Top 5 ISO NBA players (by Joe):

  • Kobe
  • T-Mac
  • Harden
  • Jordan
  • Mellow/Durant/AI (discussion) [60:46]
  • AI singled out for his size and toughness: “You couldn't touch that man." — Joe, [61:39]

• On Clyde Drexler among shooting guards:

  “He in top five… Glide was flushing on folks, man.” — Joe, [70:34]

---

7. MEMORABLE QUOTES & MOMENTS

• On 90s NBA physicality:

  “He made a play on his neck. You do somebody like that [now]—you probably get at least…five games.” — ISO, [06:41]

• On the NFL’s business mindset:

  “They give you a different message publicly. But if you understand the game…it’s about continuing to not only grow the game, but make as much money as possible doing so.” — Ocho, [32:30]

• Classic “Unc & Ocho” Trash Talk:

  “Only spare I know is the one in the trunk of my car, Joe.” — Ocho, [22:30] “I was a five-tool in high school, Joe. I was like Shohei Ohtani.” — Ocho, [43:04]

• Life Advice:

  “I lie for you before I lie to you.” — Ocho’s Motto, [66:54] “If you don’t gotta keep going, who will?” — Joe, [72:45]

---

8. FINAL SEGMENTS & LISTENER SHOUTOUTS

Segment Begins: [50:25, resumes after segments]

• Listener shoutouts, nicknames ("Armadillo Cowboy"), playful debate about donations at church, and plenty of birthday wishes and encouragement.

• Reflections on Derrick Rose’s MVP year as uniquely explosive and skilled.

  “He was so unique—so fast, quick, and explosive… that boy was—hey, D. Rose was that nice, man.” — Joe, [74:43]

• Joe on his son’s JUCO career: emphasizes working hard, especially for smaller players.

---

9. CLOSING

• The hosts close as always with banter about hanging out, family, and staying consistent. Listeners are reminded to subscribe, support, and—if interested, grab a bottle of Shay by Laportier Cognac.

---

In summary: This Nightcap episode is a rich mix of retro sports debates, modern headlines, wild personal stories, and barbershop banter—with genuinely funny, insightful, and occasionally poignant perspectives from three legends. Even if you missed the episode, the takeaways and classic moments will keep you in the loop with sports culture, big personalities, and late-night laughs.

---

Transcript

[Joe Johnson]

Amazon Health AI presents Painful thoughts I

[Unknown Advertiser/Voice]

I can't stop scratching my downtown. Mm, yeah, but I'm not itching to go downtown and tell a receptionist I'm here to talk about my downtown. Some things you'd rather type than say out loud.

[Joe Johnson]

There's no question too embarrassing for Amazon Health AI. Chat your symptoms and get virtual care 24. 7 Health care just got less painful.

[OnPlus Nicotine Pouches Announcer]

OnPlus nicotine pouches present comfort chronicles a 10 o' clock tee time, how comfortable you show up in stretchy shorts, a breathable tee, and maybe no socks. Let the dogs breathe while other sweat and pleated khakis. You're in your comfort zone. Bombing drive and in your pocket. On nicotine pouches the softest pouch on the planet. Buy a [e-mail] Products for tobacco consumers 21 years of age or older Warning this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical and now

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Superhuman Shack I keep telling them not to say that. I'm no superhuman. Believe it or not, I struggle with moderate obstructive sleep apnea, or osa, in adults with obesity. Moderate to severe OSA is a condition where breathing is interrupted during sleep, with loud snoring, choking, gasping for air, and even daytime fatigue. Let's just say it can sound a lot like this. Sound familiar? Learn more at don'tsleep on OSA.com this

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

information is provided by Lilly, a medicine company.

[Unknown Advertiser/Voice]

When Kohler, global design leader in luxurious kitchen and bath products, asked me to be their ambassador for timeless, elegant, durable cast iron, I said, I'm in. Soon after, I was in their Kohler, Wisconsin foundry watching molten iron, poured, enamel applied by hand, and the beautiful finished pieces ready to ship. Since 1883, Kohler cast iron has been crafted by incredible artisans, and seeing it firsthand gave me a whole new appreciation for their craftsmanship. Now I'm proud to lend my stamp of approval to my favorite Kohler cast iron products for their durability, beauty, and enduring style. Shop my curated [e-mail] as the Kohler cast Iron Ambassador, I say, long live cast iron.

[Starbucks Announcer]

What's up, y'?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

All?

[Starbucks Announcer]

Summer's got a different tempo. Everything's a little looser, brighter. One plan turns into another. You hear something, you stay a little longer. Next thing you know, you're somewhere you didn't plan to be. It's those in between moments. That's where the ideas hit. Conversations stretch out, little memories sneak up on you. And sometimes it's just about what's in your hand. That color that chill. The new Tropical Butterfly refresher from Starbucks. Guava and passion fruit flavors with mango pineapple flavored pearls. Yeah, that feels like summer before you even taste it. Funny how one small stop becomes the best part of the day. Start your summer rhythm with Starbucks. Try the new Tropical Butterfly refresher from Starbucks.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Sports Illustrated released their top 10 players to never win a championship. Number 10, Carmelo Anthony. Number 9, James Harden. Number 8, Patrick Ewing. Number 7, George Gervin. Number 6, Chris Paul. Number 5, Allen Iverson. Number 4, John Stockton. Number 3, Elgin Baylor. Number 2, Charles Barkley. Number 1, Carl Malone.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, what that's about, right?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Carl's a two time league MVP. Upon his retirement, he was the second leading all time scorer in NBA history. Yeah, many, many times all NBA selection. Player tough as nails, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. Unc. Ojo. Hey, man. I was standing down there my rookie year about to take a charge. I was only. It was like a two on one and Carl Malone coming down the pipe of the defense. I'm right there in front of him. All I gotta do is stand there and take a charge.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Put that knee up on you, you know.

[Joe Johnson]

He stood there. Hell no, I ain't standing there. I got up, I got. I opened up the red seat. Look. Hey, coach took me out the game so damn fast. Hey, son, you gotta. Man, I gotta keep my teeth in my mouth. I ain't gonna be out here trying to take no charge on them because

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

he was notorious for putting. He's notorious for putting that knee up, man.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what he leading with. He lead with that man, please. I'm gonna get up out your way, man.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, hey. Paul Malone never got. Got into it with anybody on the court.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm sure he had. Him and Dennis Robin, they had plenty of little wrestling matches out there.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

I don't think.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I don't know. I. I would have. I wish I knew we were going to talk about this because I'd have called Oak and ask Oak. Cause Oak probably got into it with some everybody.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, but hey, he would build like a goddamn body.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

But oak, you see Oak, you see how old Bill? Can you imagine?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Oak.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

What's. Hold on, I'm 50. I'm 50. I'll be 58. Oak by five years older than me. Oak like 63, 64, you see. How old is he now? Oak like two cents.

[Joe Johnson]

That man, he was small. That man in the gym every day though, he is oak is. That man don't play. He be in the gym.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Yeah, I gotta do my homework.

[Joe Johnson]

Them power Fours back then, bro.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

They were different. Buck Williams, Barkley, Malone. Okay, yeah. Hey, up in Indiana, cuz. Think about what they had Oak, they had Mason and they had a Xavier Mc X, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they had some dogs, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

David McDaniel.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Oh, yeah, I remember that name.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they had some dog. Hey, look, they tried to intimidate you

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

and they work you go, hey, they tell you, okay, bring your ass back down here again and see what happened, man, you okay?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Wow.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I don't know when they started calling flagrant files, but it wasn't no flavor back then. They lay your ass out, smooth out. O u W T out.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you think twice about going up in that paint back, back in the

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

day and go back a little with Kurt rat when Kevin McHale snatched Kurt Rabbit's ass out the sky.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Well, out there. And Ramby jumped up ready to fight. Yeah, I remember that. Hey, hey, I remember that.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

What, no tag? Wasn't no nothing. Hey, go shoot free throws and let's go. Yeah, I mean, he ain't talking about you gotta make a play on the ball. He made a play on his neck. You do somebody like that. Oh, you getting probably at least at bare minimum, Joe, five games nowadays.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, you gonna get more than that.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

And they talk about Larry Johnson. Boy, they had grown ass men playing power forward back then. Grown, grown men. All them guys had gone. Spent four years, four, three, four years in college. They were coming out, they were 21 years old. It wasn't all the teenage stuff.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, you. They don't even. You don't even get power forwards and centers no more like that. Like the game has changed tremendously to where a. Guys don't even train like that no more.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Oak probably bench. Oak probably bench damn near close to £400 back then.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

yeah. Man, I wish y' all could have seen Oak because I felt. Look, I Met Oak in 93 and, oh, used to come to the track with us and run. He was, I mean, do his stuff, you know, run with us. We run hundreds. We running 200. Oak running with us. Go to the gym. Oak lifting with us. No. Oh, good about that. But you, hey, when they be telling a story about, oh, you. How many times you heard somebody else say, yeah, they, they swung on Oak. When they tell stories, everybody go on the basketball podcast and they tell stories about Oak. Yeah, no, he was really, really like that. And if he told you he gonna do something to you, just consider it done.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, Joe, same thing for you.

[Joe Johnson]

What you mean, same thing for me?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

I mean, you know, you might. You might want to just. Just pretend I'm Oakley boy.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

You hear me?

[Joe Johnson]

You gonna keep my name out your damn mouth. That was gonna happen.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, Joe. Joe, Joe. Emmanuel Johnson. What's up? Hey, that's your whole government.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Hey, Joe, you remember the bad boy Pistol? Man, they had my horn. They had Lambert, you know, man, beer was dirty, but my horn.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

John Sally was on that team too, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Sal was on there to Seattle. Sal was dirty too.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, they all were.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

All of them. All of them were snatching people. Isaiah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, I think Isaiah, the only one

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

that really, you could honestly say Dumars. Dumars really ain't play like. But the rest of them. Yeah, man, please.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Wait, hold on. What? Joe. Joe was it. Joe was the two.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Joe was two.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Okay, okay, okay.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Isaiah was the point.

[Joe Johnson]

I think Isaiah was a leader.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Everybody, man, they push Isaiah. Isaiah turn around swinging on everybody. I'm like, damn. See

[Joe Johnson]

that shot down, come up out of. Hey, for real.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

And he's so soft spoken. He don't look like the type of person to be like that, though.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Okay, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Play with an attitude.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

No wonder he. No wonder he won't forgive Joy.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Joe, if you could get one player from this list, a ring, who would it be? I already know.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Barkley.

[Joe Johnson]

You would give Barkley, Ocho?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

I would, but y', all. Y' all would know better than me.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn. Give us a list. Give us a list one more time.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Carmelo Harden, Ewing, Girvin, Paul, Iverson, Stockton, Bailey, Baylor. Excuse me, Barkley and Malone.

[Joe Johnson]

Mine would probably be George Gervin or Iverson.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Hey, hey. I hold up number five, but Ash, so she can see Iverson is the field. I already know he gonna give Iverson one.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. See, hey, that little joker transcended the game, bro. When he came out. I'm talking about from the time I seen him at Georgetown playing under John Thompson, bro. I don't know what it was about them jerseys that he wore. And he had them. Them. He had them patent leather, black and white. Jordan.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, man, that man killed college basketball. And then go to the pros and be able to dominate like that. It's at such, you know, six foot

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

six, you know, maybe six bucks 60.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I'm talking about getting to it,

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

though, because he buying up all the 5xts. Yeah, all the 5xts and all the damn 40G, bro. Why you need 40 jeans and you 165 pounds?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, they changed. They changed. I mean, the NBA dress code because that man.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

And Tim Duncan. Remember Tim Duncan got his. His. His MVP trophy with some flip flops and some Bermuda shorts.

[Joe Johnson]

A give a damn. Hey, yeah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Oh, Joe. Joe. Kendrick Perkins had to be held back after getting into a heated argument at his son's AAU game. Let's take a look at this footage.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, my God, bro. Hey, man, I'mma tell y' all something. The AAU basketball scene, bro, it's crazy. It is k. It is chaotic. You hear me? I done been in there. I know what it's like. You got. You got the coaches be talking smack. You got the players be talking smack. You got the parents be talking. Hey, man, it's a tough environment, bro. Yeah, they don't surprise me, Uncle Ocho, that don't surprise me. Not one bit.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

You heard the reason why he was. Why he had to go off like that yet? No.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

P. Mac told Perk. Told P. Mac is my organization. Young Perkins Global. We're in a tournament. It's a heated game. We end up winning the game. All right, cool. The other team, they had a guy, they're like 7 foot, 400 pounds. After the game, he comes. He comes and body slams one of my kids that play for my team. I tell the coach, hey, bro, get your players. I got mine. He pops off. I ain't got nothing. Who the hell are you? He got smart. Me again. And that's when I got pissed off. And then afterwards, we dabbed it. We dabbed it up. He said, my bad. I said, my bad. And we kept it moving. He later tweeted, damn right it probably won't be the last time. I'm going to protect every single kid in my organization I like. They're my own.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, what you say?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

When emotions is high, logic is low. Hello.

[Joe Johnson]

So listen, this is. This. This is how it happens, bro. I'm telling you, man. Them parents and these coaches and these players, hey, it's bad on that scene, bro. You. You. You'll be in one. You be in one building. It probably have 70 courts, 100 courts.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

You.

[Joe Johnson]

Can you imagine? Hey, can you imagine how many people in this place, man, like, you gonna have to deal with some BS from time to time? Yeah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I mean, you.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

You. You want to do your best to ignore it, especially when you perk the best way you can. But, you know, having to step up and. And. And take care of your players and protect your players is. Is mo. Is most important. Despite being the figure that you are cooler Heads did prevail. And I'm glad nothing escalated, you know, beyond that, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on, hold on. The man said one of his dude players was 400 pounds, slammed his player. Where?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

That's.

[Joe Johnson]

That's never required in basketball.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

No, no, no. And the game was over.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Game was over to Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Game was over, Joe.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

He did that after the game.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Yeah. And he told. He told the coach. Coach, man, get your player. He over here slamming one of my players. I got my players. You know, they together. Coach done told Per.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Ain't got nothing to do with me.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn. It's bad, bro. I'm telling you.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Yeah, it is. And the thing is, Joe, you know, like I said, Joe, you in that scene, everybody think. Everybody that. That. That. That kids plays football or basketball. What they think they going on, Joy, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

NBA, NBA, NFL. Yeah. You can't tell them nothing now. There's only 1% gonna make it.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Dang.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

So, yeah, when you.

[Joe Johnson]

And.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

And you basing everything. See, I. I'm glad. Parents look at kids now as a lottery ticket.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

That's our ticket to prosperity. That ain't how our parents did it. That's not. But that's. That's where we are now. So things evolve. People look at their kids. Hey, you gonna. Hey, you gonna. Yeah, you're gonna be the Jefferson. We gonna move on up, thanks to you.

[Joe Johnson]

And look, that's why you had these parents now in basketball, holding their kids back. Reclass. Yeah, reclass them now. They come up and they in high school, in the 10th grade, 18 years old. Dominate.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Yeah. Cause you want Ocho. I mean, think about it. You want your kid to dominate, so you hold him back. So he go. He's playing kids that he's older than.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I don't. I don't know.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

I don't know why they do that. I don't know why they do that.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on, hold on.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

You.

[Joe Johnson]

What you mean, you don't know why they do it? I'm gonna tell you why they do it. These kids getting paid now in college. College is a professional sport.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm holding my. These kids, they holding these kids back. Looking for an opportunity, obviously, to make some money to get to college. It's different now, bro. It's different.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

That's crazy. And you know what, Joe? Think about it. You're holding your kid back just to get the money, and I think you're kind of hampering them a little bit, especially when it comes to developing your skill playing against better competition. I was getting ready to say that you. You would want your child to play up and not play down because you're gonna get exposed once you get against. Against. Go against better competition anyway, the older you get.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

No.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I ain't trying to. I wasn't trying to spend another day. I wasn't trying to spend one more day in school than I had to be there, let alone all damn year.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello. Hey. Work my ass off when I was in school to get up out of there.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I wouldn't go that far, Joe, but I had a plan. I ain't worked my ass off.

[Joe Johnson]

I worked my ass off. Hey, look, I had a. I had a plan when I went to college. Oh, no more than two years. I got to get the hell up out of here.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

You was going, huh?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

No, I'm talking about more than two years college. Now, I applied myself, which I could have done in high school, but, man, I took one book home my whole high school career. That's because the professor said, look, mister, he said, shannon, I'm gonna check your locker. If that book ain't gone, I'm gonna fail you in this class. I took it home, but I damn sure ain't opened it.

[Joe Johnson]

Right, right.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

But I just listened. Listen not. Man, damn, them classes, man. I wouldn't think about them. Yeah, My grandma said, oo, that boy must be done. Did his lesson at school, Dog. Granny, your baby ain't do no lesson at school on the way home from school or at home.

[Joe Johnson]

That lesson.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

That lesson ain't ain't got done. But. But that's. That's the problem now, Joe. And plus, a lot of these. A lot of these parents are living vicariously through the child. They were not able to play at the next level. They were not able to play basketball or football or whatever the case may be, Ocho and Joe. And so now I'm gonna live through the kids. Yeah, you, Ocho, your son say, hey, Daddy, that ain't for me. Okay, cool. That was my dream. That's not yours. Joe, you want your son to do it, but you know that's your dream. That's not his, right? Yeah, my dream is mine. God gave me this vision he ain't shared with nobody else. He didn't tell my sister. You know, your baby brother, he gonna be X, Y, and Z. He didn't share with my mom. He shared my grandma. He gave it to me.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I'm not living my life through my kids. You don't want to play? Okay, fine. What you want to do? Daddy, I think the school academics hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

You go. You're gonna do something.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Oh, the academic thing.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

You've got to do something.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Yeah, my a. The. My kid, my son. Hey, Dad, I think the academic thing for me. Okay, cool.

[Joe Johnson]

Do whatever you can to help him.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Academically well, what I. What I did academically well, he went to private school for all the way up to his senior year. And then I paid all the way through. I paid all the way through college. So I did everything. Hey, whatever he want.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

What? I thought you was in the bed. Thanos.

[Joe Johnson]

He said damn that.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Over here.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Thanos up.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

He said it's a little early because we came. He said we Normally come at 7. I mean to go on the 8. 8:30. Sometime 9. I'm able to go. I get put to bed. But. Hold on.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Say you were not my. My signal. We're not going out.

[Joe Johnson]

Ojo. What time y' all get to it

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

tomorrow, bro, we don't play till 5 o'.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Clock.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

We play Club America team from. For Mexico. But in the morning, I'm going to see Bill Belichick down in North Carolina.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Did you find. Did you find somewhere to eat it?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Oh, yeah, that's.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

That.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, Joe, that's what I'm drinking here. The tropical front is called Nana Morrison's. Yeah, yeah, boy. I like it, boy. Buffet style. You know, you get to pick what you want. They put it on your plate. Hey, Joe, I got my chocolate cake from Nana Marsons in all boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, all right, I see, I see. Good.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

It's good, but it's real good.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

What would you. Would you. What you did today? None.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, you know me, man. I went to the gym. Got that little workout in. Got in that pool.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

What kind of gym? I hope it was the basketball, but the basketball, right?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, I worked on that too.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Okay. Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. You know, I keep that sharp, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. It's like. It's like a barber with a razor, you know? I mean, I. I keep mine. I work on mine daily, partner.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Okay. I'm just making. I'm just making sure.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Because I don't want to hear no excuses, Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

You really. This really ain't what you want, partner. I don't know why you keep barking up this tree. I'm just gonna keep it.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Yo, one thing about trees, they get chopped down, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm keeping it 100, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, I'm keeping one. Hey, call me Paul Bunyan, huh? You talking about you a tree. I'm chopping your ass down, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Ojo, it really ain't what you want. I'm trying to spare you. You know what I'm saying?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, Joe. The only spare, the only spare I know about is the one in the trunk of my car, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

You hear me? That's the only spare I know by any other spare. I don't know any definition outside of that, all right?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, well, I guess, you know, once we kick it off. I don't wanna, I don't wanna. I want you cop it all these. Please, man.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, ain't gonna cut no plea. Only, only plea I know is in court, okay? And we ain't in court. We gonna be on the court, but not in court, okay? So by kicking off and he's gonna be a foot and you ain't gonna be able to see it where it's going to be.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Ebron revealed that Matthew Stafford was dislocating his head and Megatron fingers with his passes. Let's take a listen to what he and now superhuman Shaq I keep telling

[Shaquille O'Neal]

them not to say that. I'm no superhuman. Believe it or not, I struggle with moderate obstructive sleep apnea, or OSA in adults with obesity. Moderate to severe OSA is a condition where breathing is interrupted during sleep with loud snoring, choking, gasping for air and even daytime fatigue. Let's just say it can sound a lot like this. Sound familiar? Learn more@don'tsleeponosa.com this information is provided by

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Lilly, a medicine company.

[OnPlus Nicotine Pouches Announcer]

OnPlus nicotine pouches present comfort chronicles a 10 o' clock tee time. How comfortable you show up in stretchy shorts, a breathable tee and maybe no socks. Let the dogs breathe while other sweat and pleated khakis. You're in your comfort zone. Bombing drive and in your pocket. OnPlus nicotine pouches the softest pouch on the planet. Buy a [e-mail] Products for tobacco consumers 21 years of age or older. Warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical.

[Orderly Meds Announcer]

Less support through telehealth, but it feels overwhelming and rushed. Check out orderlymeds.com now. Orderlymeds.com was built to be different. Here you connect with real doctors who take the time to understand your goals, review your eligibility and guide you through a plan that's right for you. Orderly Meds provides access to proven GLP1 medications like semaglutide and Tirzepatide, including both name brand options and personalized compound versions when appropriate. So you have choices backed by clinical oversight, not guesswork. It's a simpler, more supportive telehealth experience designed around people who want clarity, care and confidence in their weight loss journey. And your medication is delivered directly to your home in discreet packaging so your experience stays private from start to finish. Do your research, ask the right questions, then visit orderlymeds.com podcast for an exclusive offer. Again, that's orderlymeds.com podcast. Individual results may vary. Not medical advice eligibility required. See Cite for details.

[Joe Johnson]

Amazon Health AI presents Painful Thoughts I

[Unknown Advertiser/Voice]

I can't stop scratching my downtown. Mm, yeah, but I'm not itching to go downtown and tell a receptionist I'm here to talk about my downtown. Some things you'd rather type than say out loud.

[Joe Johnson]

There's no question too embarrassing for Amazon Health AI, chat your symptoms and get

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

virtual care 247 health care just got less painful.

[Public Investing Announcer]

Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public, you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index. With AI, it all starts with your prompt. From renewal renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete disclosures [e-mail] disclosures I was struggling,

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

wasn't catching the ball. Stafford throw hard as hell. I ain't never seen no shit like this. He done dislocated four of my fingers. So I'm trying to figure this nigga out.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

I'm telling, I'm like cuz you ain't

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

gotta throw that shit that hard, bro. I'm five yards in front of you, nigga like chill. He letting that go, right? And no, he's still good. Like you know that's my job to catch the Ball, right? But Megatron used to tape his fingers this way because he done also up Megatron so he like, I could imma teach you, you know, my ways of

[Joe Johnson]

just dealing with shit. Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Yeah, I could see that Brett Favre had that same problem too, huh, John?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

John was tearing the webbing guys trying

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

to web the web. Yeah, I heard that.

[Joe Johnson]

Put some heat on that ball in it.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Man, that joke was so, so hard, man. It was cool in practice, but like warm up of the game now. His adrenaline's going. So now he getting amped up. Yeah, man. And so when I first get there, they only give you one pair of gloves. The reason why people like, well, man, you wear gloves in the game. Why you catch the ball in pre game without gloves? Cause John was ripping them. And so I get to the game and I ain't got no gloves. Cause he done ripped them in warmups. So I was like, you know what, I'm just gonna catch the ball, my bare hands. At least I have gloves in the game. But oh man, and in cold.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Jesus, you gotta catch that thing with your body.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Look at you. It's hard to catch it with your body because that thing hit. If you don't like this here, that thing.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Boop.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

It's gone. Yeah, it's gone, Ocho. Damn, it's gone.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, it's a few quarterbacks that had that arm like that with that, that arm talent. I think Aaron, Aaron Rodgers is another one.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

But Rogers thought, he doesn't throw a loaded ball like Elway. Marino like Stafford. You look, you look at them and you can tell they throw loaded balls.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Yeah, yeah. Pause, let me see. Brett far.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Yeah, far.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Well, who else off the top of your head?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Elway.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

What about

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Stafford?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, I think probably.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

What about Vic? Huh?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you, baby, you see how tight that spiral is on his. I mean, it's just a plane, you

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

see, obviously I was gonna say, look,

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

flick the wrist, probably Josh Allen.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Oh, bingo. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

But yeah, I mean, boy, look here, the thing is, now he gonna get it to you, so you get an opportunity to protect yourself over the middle, Joe Ocho, so you could appreciate that. Well, boy, you running that shallow cross, you're like, God, you could damn near hand it to me, cuz

[Joe Johnson]

he put some foul that thing anywhere.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

But it ain't nothing like a quarterback, Joe. That Know how much velocity to put on the ball based on how far you are.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

everything don't got to be a bullet.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Hey, over the middle, you appreciate it. Because, you know, I spent a lot of time over the middle, Joe. So I, I appreciate. I damn sure appreciate it. Getting there in a hurry, you say. You say get it to you quick. Well, I'm trying to get that armor dealership, Man. Hey, boy, they were. They were hurting people back then.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Yeah. Jason Kelsey said he feels the league is drifting away from Sunday being the most important day of football. It's an insulation at this point. It's an institution at this point. The NFL playing games on Sunday. With every day that we keep adding in there, we're getting away from that just a little bit. And I worry that I think the game got too big. One of the reasons is it's got so popular and big was because all the games, it was an event. Sunday in the NFL was like. And everybody set their week apart. And to tune into the games that were happening on Sunday and you're watching kind of all of them. Ocho, do you agree that the NFL is kind of drifting away from Sunday? Because this year we're gonna have a game on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday and Monday.

[Joe Johnson]

Green.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

I. I don't think so. Because you think about all the other games that you just named that happened during the week. It's only one. One game, huh? It's only one game. Maybe some get sometimes, maybe two. Sunday is still the meat and potatoes of the NFL. Sunday is still the most important, important day of. Of game. Slated at 1 o', clock, at 4 o', clock, and obviously your 7:30 game, maybe 8, 25 games. So certainly still the meat and potatoes of the NFL. But having those other games sporadically throughout the year during the weekdays is about the money at the end of the day.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Yeah, for sure.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Understand what the bottom line is, understand why we have more games, understand why players are going to get a bigger piece of the pie is because of the game that have been added. So I'm sure Mr. Kelsey understands the business side of it. But Sunday will. The main thing will always be the main thing, and That's Sunday. Games 1 o', clock, 4:25 and 8:30.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah. NFL and got greedy as hell. Yeah, they want to play. Y' all playing on Christmas. Y' all trying to take over the crib. Trying to take over.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Done.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, man. Come on, man. Damn.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

It's over.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, Joe. Is back to money. You understand? Hey, follow. Follow the money, huh? Follow the money, baby.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what these sports that. Hey, that's what these sports franchises do.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

That's what it's always been about, Joe. It's always been about that. Now they. They give you a different message publicly. But if you understand that, you understand the game, you understand the ecosystem and the way they do things, and they've always done things, it's about continuing to not only grow the game, but make as much money as possible doing so.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Going forward, if you think about it, these streaming services, they got, they got hordes of cash. They want to be taken serious as a network. You got to have live sporting events.

[Joe Johnson]

Live event.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Number one sporting event to have is what? NFL football. Now, we can't get it on Sunday. What other day can we get it on? Can we get on a Thursday? Amazon said we'll take it on Thursday.

[Joe Johnson]

Right?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Can we get it on Friday? Can we get on them now? At some point in time, these networks, CBS or NBC, they're gonna lose out because they ain't got much money as Netflix. They ain't got as much money as Amazon.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Amazon, absolutely.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

They're gonna lose out. It's that simple. NFL ain't got no. I'm telling you, NFL, about a dollar now. So y' all can go back and talk about. Well, you know what? They've been broadcasted on NBC and CBS for 60 years. Y' all remember what Jerry told them they wanted to give. They wanted to give CBS a discount yesterday. Now, we ain't got no discount, right? They got this upstart. They got this upstart network called Fox. Think about it. Nobody knew what Fox. The only people that know what you do for Fox, for this damn Simpsons in News. Yeah, they get the NFL. Tada.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I mean, it's not complicated like you said, Ocho, in order to grow, in order to increase revenue, what must I do? I've got to add games. There ain't no way. I mean, we've taught. We've tapped out. I mean, what. I mean, every. Everything is sponsored. We don't got every beer company. We'd had every pizza company. We'd had every shoe company. We'd have had every car service. We'd had Mercedes, we'd had BMW. We'd have had Kia. We had gmc. We don't had everybody. Okay, now where we going? Okay, we had Little Papa John's, we had Dominoes, we had Pizza Hut, we had Little Caesars. Okay, now where we going? We got Gatorade, we got Powerade. What else we got? We got water. We didn't have Sprint. We had Verizon. We had AT&T.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Yeah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Boosting mint.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Next.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I'm just.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

There.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Only so much money, Ocho, and if you're going to get it from somewhere else, you got it. What do you. Okay, how do I get more money? I just add more games. So guess what? Eventually, Roger Goodell said the other day he wants 16 international games. And guess what? If it used to be teams could protect certain home games, no more. You can't protect ish, Jerry. You can't protect nothing.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

I like. I like it, too. You know, being that we're playing overseas a little bit. Helping to continue to grow the game. Because continuing to grow the game and adding more eyes and more viewers abroad across that bridge, help generate more revenue.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Yeah, they got them.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

You don't squeeze, you know, squeeze all of America like a goddamn lemon.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Look here, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

NFL said, go get some of this money over.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Let me go get some of this money over there.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

NFL said, we can make lemonade out of anything you say give us. We'll squeeze it hard enough. We'll make lemonade out of that. They had beats, now they got bows.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep,

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

about a dollar. And I don't blame them. Me, too. I gotta live it. I gotta live it on what I will do for the dollar because I've turned down some opportunities like it is just on the line with. It doesn't align with who I am.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Hey, like Cassie, sometimes you got to tell them no.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Oh, good money, good night.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

But look, it is what it is. We're not the problem that you got Joe Ocho. We're not going back.

[Joe Johnson]

Nope, you're not.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I mean, it used to be Sunday, Monday. The only time you got a Thursday game was what, Ocho? Thanksgiving.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Thank you.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Got the Cowboys and you got the Lions. Those were the two teams. And it goes back.

[Joe Johnson]

They.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

And they got Grandfather because nobody wanted to play on Thanksgiving. Cowboys said, we do it. Lions that we do it. So they got grandfathered in. Then everybody saw like, hey, man, no. They say, no, no, no, no, no, no. Those two are grandfathered in. Now, you might end up playing them, but you're not going to get your own game. They say, you know what? What if we add. What if we add a later game? You know, we got a one and a four. We have night games on Sunday night. We play Monday night. Ocho and Joe. Why couldn't we play a Thursday night?

[Joe Johnson]

Good. Greedy.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Hey, what y'?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

All.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

What, y'.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

All.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

What? What, y'? All. What Y' all pay for Thursday night game. You know, I'm just looking around. You know, we might. Might be able to add a Thursday night game if you. If you like. Is what it is, man. That's just the way it works, man. NFL's corner the market. Like I say, Joe, y' all might as well move off Christmas.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, nah, nah, nah. We ain't moving nowhere now, Joe, you

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

do we all getting 3 million? The NFL getting 25? 30 on a Christmas. You do realize people sit around, it used to be y'. All. Oh, man, basketball coming on now. It ain't nobody looking for y', all, Joe. I'm telling you.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, at all. At all.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, y'.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all tripping. Y' all tripping. Y' all tripping.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Joe, you see.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, man.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

On Christmas, you see double the football game be doing.

[Joe Johnson]

I know, because y' all done got greeted, y'.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

All.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

We gotta come.

[Joe Johnson]

The NFL. You a Ocho. You and Ocho. NFL, y' all done got greedy, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

We trying to grow the game, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, we. We are, too.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, Joe. I don't know, Joe.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

It's. It's. Joe, think about it. What was. When we were growing up, what was America's pastime?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Baseball.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

When last time you heard somebody mention baseball, Joe? They play it right now. Even when they have the World Series. Guess when they have the World Series in October. Guess what's going on in October.

[Joe Johnson]

Football.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

If your team ain't in the World Series, right? Watching football.

[Joe Johnson]

Absolutely. Absolutely.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I wish. I wish I could tell you something.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that's why they got us on all these damn apps. Trying to watch all these damn things.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, you. Hey, joe. You got the hat by 50 apps, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, man.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Hey, we gotta. Hell. NFL. Coming on abc, peacock, NBC, netflix, Amazon, cbs, fox.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Oh, he go picks up the. At the ball game. Who did it? Okay. Okay. Oh. The Dodgers fear Kendall George suffered a significant knee injury Monday night while trying to avoid a bat dog. The athletic George ranked number nine in the. In the Dodgers system. The Tulsa Drillers are suspending their bat dog program after Dodgers prospect Kendall George was hurt trying to avoid a bat dog. So he was riding the bases, right?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

I never saw him. That's why I sent that.

[Joe Johnson]

Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

No can have only.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Yeah, yeah. I'm. I'm a. I'm a huge dog advocate, and I'm sorry, bro. You had your nice little gig, but when somebody gets hurt, you got to go.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Especially a prospect at that. This ain't just no. Anybody getting hurt.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Damn. Yeah. So who so? Oh, he was with the bases. The base had to be loaded or something. No, he didn't hit it. Cause look what he got on his hands. Those are sliders. So he don't jam his fingers around the bases. Yeah, okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Now, I used to. Hey, hey, Ocho. I used to do a softball game back home in Little Rock every year. Yeah, slapping that thing. You hear me?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

You knock it out of the park, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hit the baseball.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

You knock it out the park.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, man, stop playing with me, mate. Come on.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Here we go.

[Joe Johnson]

What? Ocho, I see. I see all these guys throwing out the first pitch. I threw at the first pitch at Yankee Stadium, man. Straight down the pipe. Strike.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Yeah, come on, man.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

I wanted the Cincinnati Reds to let me throw out the first pitch.

[Joe Johnson]

I guess I. I don't even think you better get across the plate. Oh, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, Joe. I was a five tool in high school, Joe. I was like, shohoy el tani. Joe don't do.

[Joe Johnson]

Man. Hey, you always talking about something in high school. That was 30 years ago.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

What that mean?

[Joe Johnson]

You ain't. You ain't. You ain't got. You ain't got it like that?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

What I'm saying, it's called muscle memory, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, Ocho, when last how you threw a baseball, huh? Honda. I said, when last time you threw a baseball?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Not recently.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Probably seven years ago. Maybe about seven years ago. Oh, no. You know what I played in Logan Wilson. Logan Wilson. Softball game. I played. I played shortstop. Hey, listen, I'm still throwing it. That's all that matter. He asked me last time I threw a baseball. Now, the baseball is a little small. Yes, I was still. I still. I was still throwing it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

You know, I was a hell of a shortstop back in 87, huh?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

You was at the bus stop.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

No, I said that was a shortstop. I played shortstop in first base.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

All right, now it's time for player fade. Presented by prize picks. Julian Champagne Moore or less than 10 points.

[Joe Johnson]

They at home. I'mma say I'm g. Say more Champenny. I know he was on five last game. I think he get 10, though.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Ojo,

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

I'm.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I'm.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

You know what? I'mma go with Joe. Matter of fact, you know what? I'mma go against Joe because Joe ain't been right all goddamn playoff long.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, hey, I tell you what. I tell you what. If champini don't get 10, y' all probably gonna lose the damn game.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Yeah, so you better hope he get 10, Joe. Ocho. All right, all right. We're Going more. Lugart Dort more or less than five points.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna say less. I'm gonna say less. He ain't, you know what he out there for his physicality. Yeah, he, he ain't scoring that ball like that. I mean, two threes to put him over with, but.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

All right, we going under Shay more or less than 30 and a half points.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm, I'm saying less in, in San Antonio game six. Unless. Hey, hey, I hope he proved me wrong, but I, I'm saying less.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

What you got Ocho

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

going less.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you sound like you want to go more. Man,

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I sure wish I knew what officials were because it's not like he's shooting at a high percentage. But when you go to the line 16, 17, 20 times and you make 17 of the 18 or you make 16 to 17, Joe, you ain't got to make but 16, six field goals and that's you there.

[Joe Johnson]

But, but, oh, oh, he's only had two 30 point games in this series and they both been at home.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

All right, well, Joe say less, so take less. Victor Wimyama will have more or less than 11 and a half 2 point field goal attempts.

[Joe Johnson]

More, more. Better.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

You a talk to the media either. Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They gonna say that's the reason if

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

he don't have, they don't win.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Well, this is the reasons why they did. Yeah, you know, they, they, they had all they.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. Ms. Johnson already said 15. 15 shot attempts. Want enough? So I can imagine they going to do whatever they can to get them touches.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Yeah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

$25 to win $150. Download the app today. Use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first doll lineup. Prize picks.

[Public Investing Announcer]

Everybody knows Shaq, but off camera, he's

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

just a regular guy.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

People never believe me when I say I'm just like them. I take out the trash, do dishes, and I struggle with moderate obstructive sleep apnea, or osa. And a lot of adults with obesity also struggle with moderate to severe osa. You know, those scary breathing interruptions during sleep, the loud snoring, choking, and daytime fatigue. I knew I had to talk to my doctor. Don't sleep on the symptoms. Learn more at don't sleep sleeponosa.com this

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

information is provided by Lily, a medicine company.

[OnPlus Nicotine Pouches Announcer]

On/ nicotine pouches present comfort chronicles. A 10 o' clock tee time. How comfortable you show up in stretchy shorts, a breathable tee and maybe no socks. Let the dogs breathe while other sweat and pleated khakis. You're in your comfort zone. Bombing drives and in your pocket. On nicotine pouches the softest pouch on the planet. Buy a [e-mail] Products for tobacco consumers 21 years of age or older Warning this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical.

[Orderly Meds Announcer]

When people turn to healthcare for weight loss, they're looking for real support. That's why more people are choosing orderlymeds.com orderly meds connects you with real doctors and access to proven GLP1 medications like semaglutide and Tirzepatide. No guessing, just a more supportive experience. And all shipped directly to your door. The in in discreet packaging. Do your research, ask questions, then visit orderlymeds.com podcast for an exclusive offer. That's orderlymeds.com podcast. Individual results may vary. Not medical advice eligibility required. See Cite for details.

[Joe Johnson]

Amazon Health AI presents Painful Thoughts I

[Unknown Advertiser/Voice]

I can't stop scratching my downtown. Yeah, but I'm not itching to go downtown and tell a receptionist I'm here to talk about my downtown. Some things you'd rather type than say out loud.

[Joe Johnson]

There's no question too embarrassing for Amazon Health AI. Chat your symptoms and get virtual care 24. 7 Healthcare just got less painful.

[Public Investing Announcer]

Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index. With AI, it all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1 bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc SEC Registered Advisor. Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete disclosures [e-mail] disclosures

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

all right, it's time for our final segment the evening. It's time for Q and A.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey Somebody. Somebody. I couldn't imagine dating. Ocho,

[Joe Johnson]

they say what he couldn't.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Somebody I couldn't imagine. They know to a shoot. I couldn't imagine dating you either.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Chat, dude. They'd be trying to throw low blows. They'd be trying to throw low blows at. Yo, Joe, I don't know why they

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

don't see my baby back there in the background.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

No, but they'd be like, man, Regina hall wouldn't date you. And I'm like, I got a better chance of dating Regina hall than you got to date me. Why we keep it on stack.

[Joe Johnson]

I seen that. I seen that. Uncle. I like Regina.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Me too. But, you know, hey, hey, I'm taking care of.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

I can hook you up.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you spoken for already?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Oh, uncle, you good, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

You spoken for.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Hey, I'm spoken at the word of Ho Cho. Spoken word. See, y', all, y'. All. Y' all always start something bad.

[Joe Johnson]

Now we just trying to see what's going on, you know?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, I got a little get together going on next week, Joe. Next Thursday.

[Joe Johnson]

What you mean in.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

In Atlanta.

[Joe Johnson]

What kind of get together?

[OnPlus Nicotine Pouches Announcer]

Got.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Look. Get together, man. I'm g. Send you the invite, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, okay. Say last.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Say.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you know, I'm g. Pull up.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, when it. When is it again, huh? Hey, hey, listen, I gotta check my schedule.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

OO stand for bull jab, y'. All.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

I'm just asking, let y' all know, man, you know, see if I'm. I'm free. AKA hey, Uncle, Miss Cambodia says, hey,

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Cambodia, how you doing in the back? Doing good, thank you. Reginald Agree said, huh? Was living like Ocho when he first put that hit on Chris Slade. Except you won. OO Lost every time with Ray.

[Joe Johnson]

Every time.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

It was nothing wrong with it. But see, the key is, is I kept going back. You hear me?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I don't know why I had to

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

set the tone for my team to show them boys. Man, I don't care. He put his pants on one leg at a time, just like me.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

At your head every time I. Even if I do lose. Hey, Joe, if me and you fighting, you whoop me, Joe, you would have to fight me. Every day I see you, Joe, you gonna have to kill me. You hear me?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hey. I already. I already know. I already know. You know you're a fool. You hear me?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

So.

[Joe Johnson]

So, hey, that what you want then? You know?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, yo, not only am I with food joke like, I ain't scared of nothing, boy. Except that man upstairs so you already know you got your hands full, you hear me?

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. All right.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

You touch that court.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Now, damn that court. Damn that court. I need my three minutes first. Give me my three minute fade. And then, you know, after that, you know, we. We can do whatever.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Joke boy. Well, one of your ass gonna be closed. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. And I seen you, Alberto, at the Shadow Shadow. And, you know, I've seen y'.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

All. Hey, hey, Joe, you see. You see how sharp I am, Joe? You see how sharp I am? Hey, I'm polished now. When it comes to the sweet science, I'm polished now. I got a great foundation, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

And I. Hey, hey. And I see you're a southpaw I've been seeing.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, I grew up in the South, Animal. South, Paul. You know what that means, huh?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

All right.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

You might want to rethink it.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, no. It's right up my alley, that man.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

To church.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, hey, hey, you know. Hey, you know, the church just want my money. I ain't going there right now.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Well, don't. Hey, don't. Don't take no money.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Oh, no. You know, they got the credit card machine at church.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

They sure do. Get debit card, all that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Oh, everybody got it on your phone.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Matter of fact. Matter of fact, they want you to do automatic pay, so you ain't you laughing, Ocho. Laughing. They want you to do automatic pay. You gonna fill it out. That way we just get it out every month. You don't have to worry about.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Come on, man.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, Joe, stop lying, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, I ain't lying. I'm not lying, bro.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

That way, even if you don't come, we still get it.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello? Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

And you got to be. You got to be playing, man.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Hey, that's. Speaking with the media after a loss isn't easy, but when you pray for rain, you got to deal with the mud, too.

[Joe Johnson]

You do. Yep. It's part of it, bro. Tom, I done been there. Hey, all they want is that one good sound bite. They know your emotions high, and they know you're gonna give them something good. They gonna be there waiting. Part of it.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Oh, 30 day check in till your birthday. I'm down £6. Not where I want to be. Small progress. Where you at? I'm down, J Dub. Your boy getting there. Your boy getting there. Hey, I see it. I feel a little, you know, like, okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

You know, for a while, I was having to, you know, keep my shirt on. That's never a good Side. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, hey. Yeah, but, you know, I'm still. Damn, man, they seem like June. June got here so too, man. June and got here quick, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

It's quick, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

I'm thinking about trying to be flying.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

And I was just thinking about, like,

[Joe Johnson]

I get off this thing a little early tonight.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I might go get Chick Fil. A

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

matter of fact. Hey, oh, you know what? What's today? Today? Thursday. Right? Okay. I'm gonna see what they got. What they got going on in Raleigh tonight. Man, it's early.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Baby in bed too. It's a rap. Yeah, ain't nothing going on.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Suitcase right there. Right there with clothes.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, it's.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

It's about to be midnight. Y' all ain't doing nothing right now.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

We don't play tomorrow till 5 o'. Clock.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Y' all ain't doing nothing. Ain't nothing to do.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Oh, oh, she said the strip club right down the street.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

What's up, sports media? I'm re watching the last dance. I wanted to ask y' all tonight what y' all thought about when Jordan abruptly retired? Shocked, like everybody else.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man, I was hurt. I was hurt. Oh, I was hurt. What was that, 90? 93. I was hurt, bro.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Cause he. Well, he. It was the 93 night. It was 94 because they won the championship. 91, 92, 92, 93. 93, 94. And he retired, like, what, in June that year?

[Joe Johnson]

Well, I remember that boy. About 13 years old. I would hurt.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

No, let's see, it wasn't 90. So the Pistons won in 90. Jordan one in 92. 91. 92, 93. So, yeah, I. I would. I was surprised. I was shocked. I was like, damn. I was like, really? But, you know, he had a lot of things going on. The sudden. The tragic passing of his dad. I mean, he just had a lot going on and, you know, but damn,

[Joe Johnson]

the 3 p. And then retire, like.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Yeah, at the top. You gotta realize he was at the top. He was at the apex.

[Joe Johnson]

Ain't many people gonna do that, bro.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Hell no.

[Joe Johnson]

Hell no.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

And then come back and do it all over again.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, three Pete again, Man, stop playing.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Yo, ISO, I seen your son shooting on your story a couple of weeks back. You think he got you. You think you got one, but. Love the show, fellas.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he got. He got a chance, honestly. You know, he. And he in junior college now, so now, you know, after junior college, do two years junior college, you still go pile five for four years. So. Man, all I tell him, bro is just keep working. You know what I mean? I work the competition, you know, perfect your craft. Cause he ain't. No, he ain't big now. He ain't got no height.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

How tall is it, boy?

[Joe Johnson]

Barely six foot.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

He barely. Yeah, he barely six foot. So when you. When you smile like that, I tell him, boy, you got to be a.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Hell, you got to. You got to. Basically, you got to be AI.

[Joe Johnson]

Not only do you have to be one of those guys, but defensively, you have to be able to make guys uncomfortable.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I mean? Because that's what you know. Not because you got to understand coaches ain't recruiting these little bitty dudes no more. Unless you. Unless you picking up full court, turning your guy four, five times before you get across the half court. Yeah, well, it's gonna be hard for you to play.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Yeah, you're right, Joe. You right.

[Joe Johnson]

You're right.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

But I also thank Joe because you're not putting that pressure on him. Look, this is what it takes to get there. If you want it, you'll do what? You'll take these steps. If that's what you want.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

You could tell me anything. I ain't got no choice but to believe you. Cause you my son. But I tell you what. I see better than I hear.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I hear what you're saying, but I don't see that work that I'm asking you. That's required of you to do.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, there you go. There you go. Hey, hey, Ocho. There's only so much I could do. I could tell you about it, but hell if I'm telling you every day, man, make sure you get your hunted, your 200 push ups in. Make sure you get your 100, 200 squats in. I'm talking about before you leave the house.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, do. Do something on your own if you only getting better when you hang out with your friends. I mean, listen, bro, you got to be able to lock in when ain't nobody watching.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

ISO Name your top five ISO NBA players.

[Joe Johnson]

Kobe, t. Mac, james harden. I guess I put Jordan in there. Come on, y'.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

All, Help me out.

[Joe Johnson]

Who y' all got? ISO guy. I'm missing you.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

You got mellow.

[Joe Johnson]

Would you say you got mellow?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

You got. That's a great ISO player.

[Joe Johnson]

Would you say Durant? Would y'. All. Would y' all consider Durant? Yeah, he is.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

But I think the thing is, like, I would say mellow. I would put mellow as far as just ISO. Cause, you know, hey, Hello. Was a mellow.

[Joe Johnson]

Was a damn bull in the china shop, bro.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

You got AI.

[Joe Johnson]

That's who I go, AI, you are. I'm telling you. I'm telling you, man. I. I know we, you know, people see highlights of AI, but AI was barely 6 foot. You couldn't touch him, bro. You could not touch that man. You hear me?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Can you shout out my brother Jeremiah and his son Saint? We love the show and steel king. Ooh, who's the toughest team you ever played that shut you down? Jeremiah Saint. Thank you, guys. Appreciate you. Appreciate you supporting the show by watching. Hope all's well on your end again. Keep up the great work, whatever you guys are doing. Ocho. The toughest team you ever played that shut you down. There was no team. The coaches calling some bull job, not giving me the rock.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, them damn spurs team's always been good, bro. They. Hey, if it weren't for them, hell, I probably had me a championship or two. Damn it. Damned Tim Duncan, Tony Parker G. Yeah, them boys had it, bro. Pop had them boys. Hey, he had them boys like a well oil.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Was Boris Di on that team when you was there?

[Joe Johnson]

No, boys weren't on their team. They had. Stephen Jackson was on their team.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

no, that was. What you call him. What's the guy? Sean Elliott. He wasn't on that team either.

[Orderly Meds Announcer]

Huh?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

He was on that.

[Joe Johnson]

They had Bruce. Yeah, they had Bruce Bowen. Bruce Bowen was on that team. Stephen Jackson, Bruce Bowen.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

That's the Kobe stopper I get.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, I guess I don't really. It wasn't no damn Kobe stopper, but

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

who gave him that damn name? I remember that. I ain't watched basketball back then.

[Joe Johnson]

Something like that, I think. I think they gave Reuben Patterson that name for the Trailblazers.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Yeah, I used to see Rube all the time in Cincinnati.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, they gave Rube that. Cause you know, Rube played for the Lakers. I guess him and Kobe used be to go at it a lot.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Uhhuh. Okay.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Well, you know, they gave what you

[Joe Johnson]

call him

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Dominique, brother. The Jordan stopper.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Gerald Wilkins. Gerald Wilkins? Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Wait.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Stopping him in practice because he was with the Knicks.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. He with the Knicks? Yep.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Look, man. Joy, Joy, Joy gonna get his shot. Joy, go get his buckets, man.

[Joe Johnson]

What?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Best defender Wimby Chat or Elgato? Your camera keep going out.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

My camera ain't go out today.

[Joe Johnson]

You did.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Oh, no, that was the Internet, you know. You know, I did 24 hours. So when I logged on yesterday, advanced WI fi and it cut off at the same time I logged. We logged in yesterday.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Hey, man. Hey, dude. Say Ocho use the hot spot he got from a dude named Seymour.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

But that's what happened. I. I didn't want to pay for extra days.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Look, I just turned 21 on the 19th. I purchased some laportier. Man, I don't even gotta say much. I'm on my second bottle right now. My goals. Much love to you guys. Keep me entertained every day, bro. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. Thank you for your support. I'm glad you like it. I told you, man, it's smooth. No artificial color, no artificial flavors. Just good old. Good old perfection. Joe, we got you covered. Coming. Got something coming your way, man.

[Joe Johnson]

So be on the lookout, okay? All right. All right. All right.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Now, don't let me know. Now.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Don't.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Don't forget your boy.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

You don't drink.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

I' ma just leave it there for decoration. Cambodia say she drank Capalda. You want a bottle? Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, you know she take them sparks, too.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Now, what

[Joe Johnson]

I know.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

In the back of the head with a pillow with a book in it.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, it ain't just for men. Come on, now.

[Joe Johnson]

You got a jail. You got a jail.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, hey, Uncle. Hey, listen, until you try it,

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

you taking the sparks. Ocho, that got to be a secret, right?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Oh, no, it's too late. I mean, they know from the show,

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

but, I mean, you.

[Joe Johnson]

You're supposed to be talking.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, that we already do, right?

[Joe Johnson]

You gotta. Hey, y'. All, you slip to the bathroom, go

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

and put in there.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, you got about an hour.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Hey, they gotta make a thing like we. We still him.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, man, I don't really too

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

much like lying, you know, if. If I got something helping me out, you know?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, now, he don't like lying.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Exactly. Joe,

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Joe, you know my motto, man. I lie for you before I lie to you, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Done. Build a. What? A great brand, a great foundation. Yeah. You.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Being honest and truthful. Yeah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Great show. Feel like bros hanging out. Is it really work if you're having fun? And yeah, Adding AI would have caught the. Adding AI would have caught the hair pull by Hartenstein, too. It. Absolutely. Yeah, exactly. Two part question. If Yao Mean was in his prime now, would he dominate the league? Number two, ISO. Did you ever play against Yamin?

[Joe Johnson]

Man, I played against Yami in aau, in the Peace Jam. We came down here in Atlanta. We played in the Peace Jam when I was in high school, and he played on A team from China. We mopped them, boy. And then obviously, you know, playing against him in the league, but he was a handful, bro.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Handful.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I don't.

[Joe Johnson]

Nice touch.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

He asked, would he dominate the league today? Not if he couldn't shoot the three.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. It's just. But you know what? They only.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I mean.

[Joe Johnson]

Go ahead, Ojo.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

I said he was slow. He was. He was slow and methodical.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. The game has changed, bro. The game. They'll run his big ass.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

That's what I'm saying. Unless he's gonna be able to shoot the three. Joe. He's Zach, Edie.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he's Zach.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Eating.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Zach. Eating would have been great back then.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

But the game now is so up and down.

[Joe Johnson]

The boy gonna be laboring, getting up and down that court. They're gonna be flying right by him.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I saw. Who would you rather have critiquing you, Uncle Skip at the same time, Ocho or Stephen? A.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm going Uncle Skill.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't gonna lie. Hey, O. Joe. Boy, I didn't miss. I didn't miss many of them. Undisputed in the morning, though.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't miss many of them. I'm telling you. Hey, I used to be tuned in, boy.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

What year you retired?

[Joe Johnson]

The last. The last year I played, I think it was 2021. I did like, a 10 day with Boston, but outside of that.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Yeah, we was. That was before COVID I think Kobe changed a lot for us because after that point, we didn't really have guests come in. Yeah, that changed it really a lot for us. But prior to Covid, we were in a groove. We weren't.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

It was just. Basically, it was me versus you.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey. Hey. I know y' all ratings was high as hell over there.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Hey, we was doing it, man. Cause, hey. And people like. Well, you know, you. You choose a side. No. It just so happens he's a Cowboy fan. I wasn't. He was a Jordan fan. I was a Bron fan. It just. It just lined up. It worked where he liked. I did. I was opposed. And what I like, he opposed. And it was.

[Joe Johnson]

It was rant.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

It was great.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

And when I left, I was done with it.

[Joe Johnson]

All right. Man. Man.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Man.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

You, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Yeah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I tried to needle him, and, you know, but he tried to needle me, too, so we needed each other. Hey, what, do you guys rank Clyde Drexler among shooting guards?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Oh, Clyde.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Clyde. And he in top five.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

So you got Jordan, Kobe, Wade, Harden. Glide.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Glide in there. Glad Bad boy, man, you talk. Hey, hey, you talking about athletic?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, my God. He had a funky jump shot, but he got it done.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Yeah, Glad. Glad was flushing on, folks, man. I sold the Armadillo Cowboy. What call you the army dealer joe.

[Joe Johnson]

The armadillo cowboy?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Who?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Joe.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Oh, Joe. They say. Oh, they say that's one of your nicknames.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm a Dealer Cowboy. Who gave me that?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

On basketball reference. They say that's one of your nicknames, man. Come on, tell me what they say now.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Okay, Joe. Okay. Like the nicknames.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Okay, yeah. ISO Joe, Joe Cool, Big Shot Joe, and Armadillo Cowboy.

[Joe Johnson]

Where the hell Armadillo Cowboy come from?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I don't know, Joe. I'm just saying, you got need to take that out.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man. Y' all give me the number to call, man, so people get that, right?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Rip to my father, Rodney Murphy, Chat Chatman Senior. We love the show. Thank you, man. Appreciate that. Sorry for your loss. And my thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family, as do everyone here at Nightcap. So stay prayed up, and hopefully you find peace and comfort in this troubled time. But thanks for supporting the show. Hey, Ocho, ISO. Love the show.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

And I'm in barber school and realizing how hard it is staying confident and consistent while learning something new. How do you push through and keep believing in yourself?

[Joe Johnson]

Staying consistent, bro?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hell, if you don't gotta keep going, who will?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Yeah, it's gonna be up, and it's gonna be up and down downs. Especially when you're trying to perfect. Trying to perfect the craft, man. Especially bar. Especially a barber school. Well, you know how much pressure on you, boy? You cannot mess up nobody.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Hey, it's different.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's important.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Back in the day, you mess up somebody here, and they're just like, all right, bro, I ain't coming back to see you no more. Now they might have to date. They have to see you.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, back in the day, boy, you get a cut. $5.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Yeah, I remember them days.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

It was $2 college. Oh, nah, these dude here, I mean, they think they professional athlete. Want to charge 200, $300 for a haircut. Man, you kick. Hey, Joe, what's up?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey. Hey. What do you call a man that can't stand?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Call him what you want. He ain't gonna come. No, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

What do you call a man that can't stand?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Yeah, Kick.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

What'd you call it?

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know, Neil.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Y' all the best Porsche show on the Internet. Hey, ISO. I was watching some of the 2011 NBA footage tell these non believers how good MVP D. Rose was.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, he was. He was so unique because he was so fast, quick, and explosive. I'm talking about a poke that thing on you. But he had a lot of finesse in his game, too, which made him hard to guard. But when he developed that jump shot, he developed that 15 footer and was shooting at three. Yeah, if he was making that, it was a rap. It wasn't. That you can do. That's why he still, to this day is probably what the youngest mvp. Yeah, that boy was. Hey, D. Rose. Wasn't that nice, Man,

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Ocho. ISO. Love, y'. All. It's my birthday today. I turned to big four zero. I'm nervous. Also, ISO your career end in Atlanta. How do you think if your career ends in atl, how you think it ends? Love y'. All.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm not sure, man. We. We pretty much got better every year that I was here. But like I say, when Danny Ferry took over, hell, I was the first. I was the first guy he traded up out of here. It wasn't no if and bus about it. We ain't had no conversation or nothing.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

What was it? What do you think?

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know, man. I don't know. He. He got the job, Unc. And I think he. He just wanted to revamp the team, you know what I mean? I still had some value left in me. So he probably was thinking, yeah, we trade Joe. They traded me and got about five or six players. And none of them any good. Nah. Hell no. They always have to leave within probably two years.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Damn, he should have followed them out, too. He still would have been there had he not said what he said about Lou all day.

[Joe Johnson]

There you go. Hey. Hey. Another dookie.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Yeah, I'm trying to figure out why.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, what he said about Luau played for the. For the Lakers and played for the Bulls.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Yeah, I remember he said something.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

So you don't know if he for real or not. He might be selling you something out the back, some swap meet stuff.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Oh, he said as a joke. It didn't go over too well, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

No. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, you know, it's unfortunate because Atlanta, a great city, bro, and they.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

They.

[Joe Johnson]

They dying and starving for some great basketball around here, as you can see throughout this postseason. And they deserving of a championship. So I hope. I hope we can deliver that pretty soon.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

And happy birthday, bro. I appreciate it. Big four. Oh, boy, you in your 40s now. Don't fret. Hey, man, 40 is the new 28.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Yeah, I like that. I like that.

[Joe Johnson]

You gotta be putting in some work talking about the new 28.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I remember that 40. Gee, isn't it funny how time just slips on away? Yup.

[Joe Johnson]

Goes fast.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Bullshit. Oh, shake

[Joe Johnson]

you hell when you bo.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Oh, Lord, not long. Well, you know I do. Hey, like the more people say I do what I can when I can, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

You know, licking a promise. Do it today and promise I'd do more tomorrow. That's all I got for you. That's all I got for you. What's good? Nightcap? Love watching the show. Y' all keep doing y' all thing. Question for ISO. Before you found your calling, playing ball with banging in Little Rock back in the day. Was you banging in Little Rock back in the day?

[Joe Johnson]

No, I went. I went banging. But y' all like, like. Like a lot of us. I grew up with them dudes, bro. I grew up with him, went to school with them. Hell, it was just a part of it, you know what I mean? You know, when. When you a Hooper, you some sort of an athlete, you know, you don't really. You don't. You don't really get touched like that by, you know, once. You stay consistent in what it is you do. But. Yeah, I mean, I rode the bus with them. They in the neighborhood. That was just a part of life, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. Hey, Ocho. See, back then, yeah, you had them Jordans and them starter jackets. You might want to leave it. You might well leave that stuff hanging up in the closet. They were killing for that. Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Oh, yeah. Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, around your area, but what y' all wear? Red or blue?

[Joe Johnson]

Where I'm from, red.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Okay. On gang twin. Okay. Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

All right.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, that's on the set, homie.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I'm dead.

[Joe Johnson]

All right, all right.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

That thing up one time, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, oh, Come on, man. Come on. Let's keep going

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

for the set, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, come on, man. Come on, Ojo. What's wrong with you one time now. What's wrong with you, man?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Come on.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, come on, Joe. To get up one time for the set. Come on, Joe. On Dead Homies. Come on.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

That credit story was funny, but so real. Had me crying like Ocho. Who would y' all say had the purest baseball swing ever? Love the show. Griffey.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Griffey.

[Joe Johnson]

I got a nice swing, too. Now.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

There he goes, Ocho. There he gonna hanging around Ocho too long, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, I'm keeping it real, man. I'm real. I'm real live natural. I'm a natural, bro. For real. I just chose basketball. Don't y' all get it twisted, though.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

The Knicks made the finals before the Cowboys. Hello.

[Joe Johnson]

All right, now. All right. Y' all gotta relax.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, now. Hey, Joe. Cool. Hey, hey, Joe. Joe. Dah. Move cool now. Man, I ain't know that. I ain't know you with that move, man.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

There you go.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Are you cool with me, Joe? I don't want to fight you no more, homie.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, we ain't got no choice, man. You disrespected me. You don't play by my money.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

So he got. Hey, he got. He got to put him up, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Hell yeah, he got to put him up. See, where I'm from, we don't play like that, Ojo. You play with somebody, money man, you got to pay for that.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

I mean. All right, well, forget it. Hey, listen, I would try it. I was trying to spare you, but go ahead. We'll get it on.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Nino. Damn. Spare.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

All right.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I wish the NFL would stop with these international games. I understand why they're doing it, but they'll never be big compared to soccer. They don't want to. They don't want to be that big. Think about it. All they try to do. Hey, you think the Popeyes chicken sandwich gonna ever be bigger than Chick Fil? A chicken sandwich? We just try to take 10, 15% out of that.

[Joe Johnson]

Right, right, right.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

See you. You get caught up. Say I tried to be as big ass. Think about when you're not getting anything, then all of a sudden you get 10, 15, 20. What's up, my big three family. I watch faithfully every day or watch other episodes when you guys not. For example, me and my wife just got back from yoga. Came home and did a little some yoga, too. Love y', all, man. See y' all tomorrow. See? See what I'm saying?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Ojo. I know you tired, so go take your ass on the bed.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Who died? Wait, What?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

What?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Me and. Me and my baby.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

What?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

We're gonna hit the town. What? We finna paint the town red. I mean, my bad.

[Joe Johnson]

That boy lying like be sleep like hell.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

I'm out.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

I called that joke. He said, man, oh, man, you know, I'm in this bed. I just be playing with you, man. I'm in the bed. Yeah, I figure.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Matter of fact, I'm gonna say I'm send y' all a picture with me out. Hey, I'm. We're gonna see what kind of Potential. They got in in the club Cheetah over there.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Oh, they got.

[Joe Johnson]

All right.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

It's in Raleigh. You know, it ain't like Area 29, but we're gonna see what it's hitting on.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Hitting for probably nothing. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am, and that is my partner and co host. That's Liberty City's own, a bingo ring of fame honorary a former pro bowler and an all pro. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson. And the third member of the big three, the seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks, Little Rock, Arkansas native. That is ISO Joe Johnson.

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

Hey, I ain't even noticed tonight. I just. I should have known. I should. I just shouldn't have known. But you know, my boy was sue woof when I seen the red durag.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)]

I see you, Joe. Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Man, what's wrong with this, man?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Please make sure you hit the subscribe button. Please make sure y' all go hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of shade by Laportier, head over to laportiercognac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. It's a premium BSOP. Comes in two sizes, 750, the OG and the 375, which is the Junior. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. So again, Stevie, Nikki Bailey, Jacob, Kristen, Mike, Jvion. Thank you. 12 straight days. Got one more day and then we got a day off. So thank you guys for your hard work. It does not go unnoticed. Chat, Give it up for the crew. Stevie, Nikki, Bailey, Jacob, Kristen, Mike, JB on. Thank you guys again. Chat, Give him a round of applause. Hey, I'm Unc, he's Ocho, he's ISO. We're back tomorrow after game six. Let's see if the spurs can go back to OKC for game seven.

[Unknown Advertiser/Voice]

Sa.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

And now Superhuman Shack.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

I keep telling them not to say that. I'm no superhuman. Believe it or not, I struggle with moderate obstructive sleep apnea, or OSA in adults with obesity. Moderate to severe OSA is a condition where breathing is interrupted during sleep with loud snoring, choking, gasping for air, and even daytime fatigue. Let's just say it could sound a lot like this. Sound familiar? Learn more@don'tsleeponosa.com this information is provided by

[Starbucks Announcer]

Lilly, a medicine company.

[Orderly Meds Announcer]

Lots of support through telehealth, but it feels overwhelming and rushed. Check out orderlymeds.com now orderlymeds.com was built to be different. Here you connect with real doctors who take the time to understand your goals, review your eligibility, and guide you through a plan that's right for you. Orderly Meds provides access to proven GLP1 medications like semaglutide and Tirzepatide, including both name brand options and personalized compound versions when appropriate. So you have choices backed by clinical oversight, not guesswork. It's a simpler, more supportive telehealth experience designed around people who want clarity, care and confidence in their weight loss journey. And your medication is delivered directly to your home in discreet packaging so your experience stays private from start to finish. Do your research, ask the right questions, then visit orderlymeds.com podcast for an exclusive offer. Again, that's orderlymeds.com podcast. Individual results may vary. Not medical advice, eligibility required. See cite for details

[OnPlus Nicotine Pouches Announcer]

on/ nicotine pouches present comfort chronicles at 10 o' clock tee time how comfortable you show up in stretchy shorts or breathable tee and maybe no socks. Let the dogs breathe while other sweat and pleated khakis. You're in your comfort zone. Bombing drives and in your pocket ON plus Nicotine Pouches the softest pouch on the planet. Buy a [e-mail] Products for tobacco consumers 21 years of age or older. Warning this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical.

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

What's up cousin?

[Unknown Advertiser/Voice]

I want a new phone. Have you seen any good deals?

[ISO (likely Isaiah or a host named ISO)]

Everyone has free phones, but when I

[Orderly Meds Announcer]

switched to T Mobile, I got more value and so much more. Live streaming included and travel benefits.

[Public Investing Announcer]

And the best part? The price of your talk, text and data is guaranteed for five years. Get more benefits and more value AT T Mobile Family Save and get a 5 year price guarantee. Switch now. @t mobile.com Qualifying plan requires price guarantee on DOC tax and theta exclusions like taxes and fees apply.

[Orderly Meds Announcer]

Ctmobile.com when you manage procurement for multiple facilities, every order matters. But when it's for a hospital system, they matter even more. Grainger gets it and knows there's no time for managing multiple suppliers and no room for shipping delays. That's why Grainger offers millions of products in fast, dependable delivery so you can keep your facility stocked, safe and running smoothly. Call 1-800-GRAINGER Click grainger.com or just stop by Grainger for the ones who get it done.