Best of NFL News Part 1: Top 10 QBs, Tom Brady SPEAKS on WR psychology, Best WR2 in NFL

Summary

Nightcap Podcast Summary

Episode: Best of NFL News Part 1: Top 10 QBs, Tom Brady SPEAKS on WR psychology, Best WR2 in NFL

Date: July 18, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (“Uncle Murder”), Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, Joe, Sports Analyst, Tony Ayo
Produced by: Shay Shay Media & Playmaker

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Episode Overview

This episode of Nightcap dives deep into current NFL headlines with the trademark banter and insight from Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, and their crew. The main topics revolve around ESPN’s new QB rankings, wide receiver dynamics (including psychology and value), Tom Brady’s recent comments, the debate about the best WR2 in the league, and future NFL contract implications. The conversation also includes classic storytelling and playful banter, especially around topics like golf, the life of journeyman receivers, and why certain cities repeatedly host the Super Bowl.

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Main Discussion Points & Highlights

ESPN Top 10 NFL Quarterbacks for 2026

Timestamps: [03:46]–[08:41]

• ESPN annual QB rankings: Josh Allen is crowned as #1 (first time in three years), followed by Patrick Mahomes (#2), Matthew Stafford (#3), Joe Burrow (#4), Lamar Jackson (#5), Dak Prescott (#6), Justin Herbert (#7), Drake May (#8), Jared Goff (#9), and Caleb Williams (#10).
• Jalen Hurts’ fall: Noted as ranked 17th.
• Ochocinco’s take: "Why isn't Josh Allen in front of Mahomes?" – [04:49]
  • Allen’s recent consistency and Mahomes’ injury factored in.
• Other hosts largely agree with the top 10 – some mild debate over Herbert vs. Jordan Love.
  • Sharpe on Justin Herbert: "They love that size, they love that arm, and he's more mobile than you think." [07:20]
• Caleb Williams’ rise is discussed. Anticipation for growth in year two.

QB Interchangeables: The Case for the “Fringe”

Timestamps: [08:41]–[10:10]

• Discussion about quarterbacks like Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield missing from the top 10, with Ocho and Sharpe noting Darnold’s journey and success in Seattle.
• On Mayfield: "Baker Mayfield is the engine that makes that Tampa Bay offense go. You can't deny him." – Ocho [09:55]
• Sharpe brings up Tampa’s injury history and need for health to maintain offensive strength.

Atlanta QB Controversy & Health Watch

Timestamps: [10:47]–[11:26]

• Speculation around Atlanta: "I like the controversy that's gonna happen over there in Atlanta." – Ocho [10:52]
• Discussion of Michael Penix Jr.’s status after surgery, lightly debating readiness for the season.

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Tom Brady on Wide Receiver Psychology

Timestamps: [26:03]–[27:50]

• Tom Brady (clip): “You’re a great receiver. You’re gonna catch 110 balls this year…but some games you get 11, some you get 3. I can’t have you the happiest guy in the world when you catch 11 or the most miserable when you catch three.”
• Brady highlights the emotional management needed for WRs, emphasizing that not every game is a stat game and team/career perspective matters.

Ochocinco Reacts

Timestamps: [27:50]–[28:50]

• Ocho: "That was me. One game, 11 catches. One game, 3. What is Carson (his QB) doing in the huddle? 'Stay in the game. I'm gonna get you the ball…please understand why I can't get it to you.'"
• Ocho describes the emotional struggle of being a dependent player (receiver) and weeks of being a decoy.

Sharpe’s RB/WR Room Stories

Timestamps: [29:14]–[30:27]

• Sharpe: "When you getting your 11, 12, 13, that means somebody else getting them two to three." – [29:24]
• Shares how targets and catches had to be distributed even on great teams, with Super Bowl anecdote:
  • “The first Super Bowl, Rod [Smith] didn’t catch a pass. He comes back in the next Super Bowl, gets 5 for 130-something and a touchdown.” – [30:07]

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Best "Number Two" Wide Receiver in the NFL

Timestamps: [39:03]–[43:29]

• Stefon Diggs claims: “Name your number two receiver right now…Is he better than me?”
• Back-and-forth on which teams actually have a WR2 better than Diggs (Dallas, Cincinnati, Minnesota, Rams, Detroit, etc.).
• Ocho: “He would be a bona fide [WR1]…their number two is not better than him.” – [40:27]
• Sharpe and Ocho weigh Diggs’ “journeyman” status after so many team changes.
• Age comes up: “How old is Steph now?…32, 33.” – [42:33]
• “It doesn’t make it any better with all the off field stuff.” – Ocho [42:47]

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The "WR1/WR2" Dynamic & Team Fit

Timestamps: [43:36]–[47:18]

• Sharpe and Ocho debate how changing systems (Philly vs. New England) will affect receiver stats, specifically AJ Brown and DeVonta Smith.
• "Devontae Smith…could have easily been receiver number one at any game." – T.O. (quoted by cast) [44:48]
• Discussion of “true WR1” and how different offensive schemes (McVay, McDonald, Shanahan) boost player stats.
• Ocho: “He would be good in Baltimore…hell, Cleveland!” – [40:42]
• Importance of the system vs. talent for WRs' career trajectory.

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Debating the Greatest Wide Receivers Ever

Timestamps: [47:00]–[50:37]

• Unfiltered, classic debate: Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens top everyone’s lists as the best to ever do it.
• Sharpe on Jerry Rice: “We’re not even having that discussion.” – [47:36]
• Ocho reflects on watching T.O. as a competitor: “Young boy, he was something special, man…I found myself a fan watching a friend of mine.” – [48:07]
• Extensive praise for both T.O. and Moss; the physicality, production, and the respect they earned.

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NFL Contract Drama: Pickens, Cowboys, and Dak

Timestamps: [62:33]–[66:12]

• George Pickens plays 2026 on the franchise tag ($27.3M) — no long-term deal yet.
  • "Are the Cowboys going to regret not signing Pickens to a long-term deal? If he balls out, it’s $45 million." – Sharpe [63:19]
• Ocho argues Pickens will excel, forcing the team's hand.
• Debate around the rising cost of QBs and paying core offensive stars (Dak, CeeDee Lamb, Pickens, Quinnen Williams).
• Sharpe: "Prescott’s gonna want $150 million at signing. $300 million guaranteed.” [65:04]
• “You can’t pay all them.” – Ocho [65:18]

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NFC East Predictions & Banter

Timestamps: [66:26]–[68:34]

• "The Dallas Cowboys will run the NFC East." – Joe [67:30]
• Major skepticism from Sharpe and Ocho; Eagles losing AJ Brown, Giants lacking healthy talent, doubts around Odell Beckham as a season-long WR1.
• Ocho: “One thing about [the Cowboys], they can move the needle. It just don’t move when it’s supposed to.” [68:24]

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Super Bowl City Rotation and NFL Gossip

Timestamps: [68:53]–[72:39]

• Discussion on why Super Bowls always land in warm weather cities or party cities (Atlanta, Vegas, New Orleans, L.A.); stadium requirements and the NFL’s love for party towns.
• Sharpe: “They love it in Vegas…especially now. They love effing New Orleans. Nobody’s had more Super Bowls than New Orleans.” [69:44]
• Ocho and Joe joke about freezing Super Bowls (“Ain’t nobody trying to walk around no damn Mall of America.” – Sharpe [70:17])
• Quick historical notes on clubs (Glam Slam, First Avenue) and local city stories.

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Memorable Quotes

• On receivers’ emotional management (Tom Brady):

  • "I can't have you like the happiest guy in the world when you catch 11 or the most miserable guy on the team when you catch three." – Tom Brady [26:03]

• On team targets and sharing the load:

  • "When you getting your 11, 12, 13, that means somebody else getting them two to three…But you ain't thinking about them. Oh, yeah, yeah, boy. Feed your boy." – Shannon Sharpe [29:24]

• On Jerry Rice’s greatness:

  • "The three best receivers…and I've seen a lot of them…for me, is Jerry's number one…We're not even having that discussion." – Shannon Sharpe [47:00/47:36]

• On Cowboys’ fortunes:

  • “The Cowboys. They normally like Cowboy. That's one thing we can count on. We can count on the Cowboys. Cowboys.” – Sharpe [68:11]

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Other Notable Moments and Lighter Topics

• Humorous golf banter between Ocho and Sharpe (full segment [13:18]–[19:26]), including Ocho’s “Cyclops” claim and golf swing demonstration.
• Sharpe tells stories about running plays with famous Broncos running backs and coaching advice (“You ain’t at the club. Ain’t no dancing back here. One cut!” – re: Alex Gibbs, Broncos O-line coach) [38:02].
• Rapid-fire shoutouts, playful ribbing about strength/lifting (Ocho vs. Joe), and off-topic diversions—classic Nightcap chemistry.

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Conclusion

This “Best Of” episode is a showcase of the personality and NFL expertise of Shannon Sharpe, Ocho, and crew. Main takeaways include the controversial QB rankings, the ongoing evolution and challenges for receivers in modern offenses (highlighted by Tom Brady’s insight), and spirited debates around player value, contract futures, and position rankings. The hosts’ candid stories, relentless jokes, and seasoned perspectives make it a lively must-listen for NFL fans.

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Missed the episode? These timestamps will help you jump right to the best discussions and quotes.

Transcript

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[Uncle Murder]

your favorite unk here. Go ahead and click that subscribe button below so you don't miss a single episode of Nightcap. That button right here. Come for the sports, stay for the stories. For the first time in three years, NFL executive and scouts have crowned a new QB1 in the ESPN annual rankings. Josh Allen 1. Mahone Boy 2 Stafford 3 Burrow 4 L. Jack 5 Dak Prescott 6 Justin Herbert 7 Drake May 8 Jared Goff 9. Caleb Williams cracks the top 10. People asking man where Jalen hurts. Jalen hurts. If I'm not mistaken, he was ranked the 17th best quarterback coming into the 26th season. Hey Ocho, got any problems?

[Ocho]

Hey Young, this, this is tough. Can I ask you a question? Yes. Why isn't Josh Allen in front of Mahomes?

[Uncle Murder]

I guess they said, you know the last couple of years he's been more consistent and Mahomes coming off an injury so they fact they're factoring.

[Sports Analyst]

Okay.

[Ocho]

I like staffing in front of borough. I like it Lamar Jackson, Dax. I like it. I mean, there's really no way I can argue. I can't really argue with anything outside of. Outside of 1 and 2. Stafford obviously belongs at 3, even though he's older. Burrow has a lot to prove, so where he at is respectable. Would like a little bit more playoff success from him and being healthy and staying healthy this year, he can move up Lamar Jackson again. He has to prove himself in the postseason. I mean, they're able to get there. Injuries kind of took a toll on them last year, so collectively, as a team, they didn't do well. And outside of that, the numbers, everyone after Lamar Jackson is. Is about right where they should be.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murder]

What you thinking, Joe?

[Joe]

Yeah, I don't really. I don't see nowhere where you can gripe and groan as far as who should be moved. I see they got my boy Dak at six. All right, we can live with that. You know what I mean?

[Uncle Murder]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Yeah. I don't see nothing wrong with the list. Huh?

[Uncle Murder]

You gotta.

[Joe]

You gotta. You got a guy. Y'.

[Uncle Murder]

All.

[Joe]

Do y' all have a guy that y' all think should be in the top 10 that's not in the top 10?

[Uncle Murder]

Not. Not me. Not.

[Joe]

Not.

[Uncle Murder]

I. Look, I. I know Jordan Love has been considered, and Jordan Love have these peaks. He have these peaks where he'll go five, six weeks and he'll throw two, three touchdowns and no picks, and then he'll have weeks where he's like, damn, bro, what's wrong?

[Ocho]

Down a little inconsistency.

[Uncle Murder]

But this guy that they got at

[Tab Ramos]

10,

[Uncle Murder]

I can imagine what he gonna be like in this second year in that offense. He, You.

[Tony Ayo]

You.

[Joe]

He gonna be a lot better.

[Ocho]

Caleb. Caleb.

[Joe]

Yeah, Absolutely.

[Ocho]

I wonder how many people would take Justin Herbert out and put Jordan Love.

[Uncle Murder]

Me. I. I don't. I don't think the execs will. They. They. Because they love that size, they love that arm, and he's more mobile than you think.

[Ocho]

I'm curious. I'm curious what the chat. Chat think, Chad. Would y' all take Justin Herbert out and put Jordan Love or. Or no. Or you like. You like.

[Joe]

The

[Uncle Murder]

Drake may acquitted himself very well in the second year. I think he'll be even better in his third year on the Josh McDaniel system.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murder]

Lamar. The thing is, is Lamar is in a new system. And the thing is, if you go back and look at Lamar, Lamar won the MVP and Todd Monkey system and. And he finished second in Tom Monkin system. Ocho and I, we talked. Ocho we talked about it. We had it. We thought he had won it a second time. Josh Allen nipped him at the wire. Mahomes is Mahomes. Matthew Stafford seems to be getting better with age. Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow. He stays healthy. Dak put up some phenomenal numbers. Now he just has to do it in meaningful big games.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey, I got just.

[Uncle Murder]

I mean, Drake May took a team. Jared Goff has always been to the super. Caleb. I. I expect Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams is gonna be.

[Ocho]

I have a question. We. We have a quarterback that started out in New York, didn't go. Didn't play well, went to Carolina, you know, didn't do much, but he goes to Seattle, and he. Not only does he go to Seattle, he go. He went to Minnesota. Played extremely well in Minnesota.

[Uncle Murder]

He went to San Francisco.

[Ocho]

San Francisco. Oh, my goodness. I forgot. He damn near journeyman, huh? He go to Seattle and win the super bowl his first year. So how is he not even in the top 10? What are you playing Sam Donald in that equation? I just. I'm tripping. Baker Mayfield is not on there.

[Uncle Murder]

No, but the question is, okay, to put Sam Darwin. Baker Mayfield. Justin Herbert.

[Ocho]

Justin Herbert.

[Uncle Murder]

You taking Justin Herbert off? Okay, so you'll put. Just. So you go put Sam Darling and Justin.

[Ocho]

I would. Or Jordan love. Or then you said one more quarterback that's interchangeable because, I mean, what's the difference?

[Uncle Murder]

You take.

[Tony Ayo]

You.

[Uncle Murder]

So you. You take. You take Baker Mayfield over Justin Herbert.

[Joe]

Oh,

[Uncle Murder]

I like Baker, but I don't know if I take him over.

[Ocho]

I mean, you're looking at Justin Herbert as the quarterback, and then tangibles, you know, tall, strong, can run, But. But Baker Mayfield is the engine that makes that Tampa Bay offense go. You can't deny him. You can't deny him.

[Uncle Murder]

If they can stay healthy. I like the running back situation in Tampa. They got to stay healthy because, remember, Chris Godwin was nicked last year. Mike Evans was nicked. Emeka Abuka was doing very well. Then he got nicked at the end, you know, late in the season. If they can stay healthy, they got a solid defense now. Levante David retired. So Vita Veer is gonna be a. You know, he's upset. He won a contract. He got no more guaranteed money. He wants to do a contract extension. Winfield Jr. I'm anxious to see how they do. Cause I think. Hey, hey, Atlanta. Y' all need to show me something. Y' all got too much damn talent.

[Joe]

It's time, too, boy.

[Uncle Murder]

Y' all got too much damn talent to be over There.

[Ocho]

I like the controversy that's gonna happen over there in Atlanta too, bro.

[Joe]

What you mean? As far as quarterback.

[Uncle Murder]

He talking about tour and hella quarterback

[Ocho]

controversy over there, huh?

[Uncle Murder]

You think so?

[Sports Analyst]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Joe, I don't even know who your starter gonna be.

[Joe]

Well, I mean, is Pennix healthy? I don't think he healthy from the procedure that he had. Right.

[Ocho]

Yo, he was throwing. He was throwing a minicap.

[Joe]

Well, hell, my home throwing at minicamp. Ocho here. But you ain't. Is he gonna be ready to start the season?

[Ocho]

That's good. You know, that's a good question. I'm not sure.

[Uncle Murder]

Very good.

[Ocho]

You're moving around like he was with that brace off.

[Uncle Murder]

We about. We gonna find out. Ocho. Jerry Rice chased down a heckler after messing up his golf swing during the 2026American Century Championship. Watch this, guys. Hey, hey, yo, hey, hey. I'll go get him, Jerry.

[Joe]

Go get him, Jerry.

[Uncle Murder]

I'm sure he doesn't like that. We love you. Hey, man, J60, you know, J63.

[Ocho]

I don't understand.

[Uncle Murder]

Cause he messed up his way. You can't like with somebody swing. You can't be talking during the swing.

[Joe]

You holler four.

[Uncle Murder]

Supposed to be quiet on the golf course.

[Joe]

Absolutely. Okay.

[Ocho]

You, you, you, you. You say four after they hit the ball. Okay?

[Joe]

Yes.

[Ocho]

Okay.

[Joe]

That means. That means that.

[Uncle Murder]

Hey, Jerry, take that golf serious now.

[Joe]

Yeah. Hey, hey, most people do who play, they take the game serious, bro. They don't play that. All that heckling and you talking and laughing and kikiing while I'm about to swing.

[Ocho]

Yeah, y' all can have that golf. Too expensive, boy. You see, I. Hey, I looked at the prices of clubs and. And the outfit and the shoes and. Nah, I'm good.

[Joe]

Y' all can have they number one. Them LV jackets that you got over there.

[Ocho]

I'm aware of, Joe. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't pair a jacket I'll wear every time it's cold outside and I gotta go somewhere cold to some damn golf clubs and golf attire.

[Uncle Murder]

You will use the same golf club every time you take your ass on the golf course. You don't change golf clubs and you go get. Once you get them fitted.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I mean, as you get. As you get better, you got to get better equipment, you know, the same equipment.

[Uncle Murder]

You're not looking that good, so you

[Ocho]

ain't got to get that good. Listen, if I get. If I get myself in the golf.

[Uncle Murder]

You only got one eye.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I Play my Cyclops. I played my whole career with one eye. That tell you how good I know. Now, if I get into golf. Hey, Steph Curry. You might go sit down, boy, huh? Once I lock it on something. Joe, I'm. I'm here to be the best.

[Joe]

You catch on like that? You catch on that fast.

[Ocho]

You play soccer, didn't you?

[Tab Ramos]

Huh?

[Joe]

Yeah, I seen you play soccer, but you playing against Home Depot Gold?

[Ocho]

Them regular people that play soccer.

[Uncle Murder]

Oh, hey, that man just worked a $14 shifting out there, trying to play some. Try to play soccer.

[Sports Analyst]

Now.

[Uncle Murder]

You ain't messing. You ain't messing with stealth. Them guys play too much. Guys like Steph Curry, Romo. Guys that play every single day. You've got to play that every single day, Every single day to be good

[Joe]

at it for like six to eight hours.

[Ocho]

I ain't got time for that joke.

[Joe]

See, it's about six.

[Ocho]

Them six, eight hours I spent streaming, playing FIFA, playing Call of Duty, playing Battlefield, playing Madden. Now playing NCAA 27. You know, that's why I'm mad I'm not home.

[Uncle Murder]

You got to be obsessed. Like you were in football.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murder]

In order to be good at golf, you got to be obsessed with it.

[Ocho]

Like that.

[Uncle Murder]

That's. That's all my brother do is play golf. That's all he does.

[Joe]

It's. It's.

[Uncle Murder]

It's every day.

[Joe]

Hey, it's addicting when you. When you really find out how to hit that little white ball and you can get it to go where you want to go, that's when it starts getting really addictive.

[Uncle Murder]

Yes.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murder]

And that's all he does is go to everybody. Tournament. Everybody got a golf tournament. My brother showed up. Alonzo Morning. Otis Anderson, Grant Fuhrer. It doesn't matter.

[Joe]

He gotta come. He gotta go check out Dominique. You know Dominique got a. Dominique Wilkins got a golf tournament where you have the.

[Uncle Murder]

East Lake. I. I know he might have went to Dominic. I don't know. He might. I gotta ask him. I ask him.

[Joe]

I know it's in. I know it's in Atlanta. I'm not sure the golf course, but, yeah, probably.

[Uncle Murder]

He's probably at East Lake.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey, I don't play no golf, but I got one hell of a swing joke, right?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah. You know, I'm really.

[Uncle Murder]

I'm pup. I'm the pup. I. I be. I'll beat the brakes off. You enjoy,

[Ocho]

y'.

[Uncle Murder]

All.

[Ocho]

You got to see my swing, Joe, because I know I'm really good at relaxing.

[Uncle Murder]

Boy, I'm on a palm tree.

[Ocho]

Relaxing my body. Relaxing my body, Joe, you know? Yeah, I got my arm. I could just. That's real good technique, Joe. I just can't hit that damn ball, boy.

[Uncle Murder]

Well, damn it all, that don't do mean nothing if you can't hit the ball. What the hell you got?

[Joe]

Hey. Oo. You got to keep. You got to keep your head down, bro.

[Uncle Murder]

You got to keep your head, Joe.

[Joe]

Huh?

[Uncle Murder]

You got to be still and see this here? That got to be just that.

[Ocho]

Yeah, that's the hard part.

[Uncle Murder]

So you been. You been? Hell, he hit a baseball.

[Joe]

Yeah. He think he in the baseball. Yeah, he don't know no better.

[Ocho]

I ain't like that. Listen, that ain't for me, man.

[Uncle Murder]

Let me see you swing. Let me see you swing.

[Tony Ayo]

Hold on.

[Ocho]

Hold. Let me show you swing. Watch me swing, Joe. Hey, hey, Chat. Hey, watch me swing. Watch out. Hey, tell me where you can see me. Can you still see me?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Turn this way. Or turn this. Wait, which way?

[Uncle Murder]

Whichever way you want.

[Joe]

Hold on.

[Uncle Murder]

Are you hitting crosshair?

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

You see, I. I got it right.

[Uncle Murder]

Right hand on top.

[Tony Ayo]

Okay.

[Uncle Murder]

Right hand on top.

[Sports Analyst]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murder]

Like this. Locked.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murder]

You see, Ocho?

[Ocho]

Yeah, it's locked. I feel like I'm holding something.

[Uncle Murder]

Peeking through index finger. What are you doing?

[Joe]

No.

[Ocho]

What?

[Uncle Murder]

Your hips don't move, Ocho. Your body don't move. You need a.

[Ocho]

They didn't move,

[Uncle Murder]

Chad. Are y' all seeing what I'm seeing? Yeah, it look like everything at the damn bottom. Move, Chad.

[Ocho]

Ain't nothing moving.

[Uncle Murder]

I'm paying attention.

[Ocho]

You messing up my swing. You worth. I'm gonna have to write you. Watch me now. Watch me. Just pay attention.

[Uncle Murder]

Okay? Okay.

[Joe]

Why you load up? You can't load up that left leg, man.

[Uncle Murder]

You loading up that leg like you

[Joe]

finna hit a ball. Baseball.

[Uncle Murder]

You can't.

[Joe]

You gotta keep them planted, man.

[Ocho]

They were planning, Joe. They were planning. Hey, listen.

[Joe]

Hey, see, listen.

[Ocho]

Every time. Every time we.

[Uncle Murder]

Chad, about me, stay with me.

[Ocho]

Listen to me now. Anytime you work with somebody, right? Anytime you work with somebody, yeah, it's not gonna be perfect. But what I have and what you just saw is there's a foundation for improvement.

[Tab Ramos]

Huh?

[Ocho]

The foundation for improvement. Now, it's not gonna look like Scotty Scheffler, but I can get to look like Scotty Scheffler with two or three months of training.

[Joe]

Okay, I got you.

[Ocho]

I got me. I think for somebody that don't golf and would never go out there. See, I look good.

[Uncle Murder]

Yeah, no, I think you might be looking more like Adam Schefter. I don't know about those Scottish Shefflers.

[Ocho]

You know, I. I didn't.

[Sports Analyst]

I didn't hit.

[Ocho]

I. I didn't. I didn't hit nine holes with Scotty at Augusta.

[Joe]

Come on, man.

[Uncle Murder]

They not going to let you chop up Augusta.

[Joe]

Nah, hell no, Ted. They grass up.

[Ocho]

Hey, that way. Hey, that kind of hurt my. Hurt my peck a little bit.

[Uncle Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

How would you get ready to say that?

[Joe]

A man. Oh, don't get. Don't. Don't tell.

[Ocho]

Hey, don't look at the camera, Joe. Hey, you see that?

[Joe]

I see it. I see.

[Ocho]

Rocked up.

[Joe]

I see.

[Uncle Murder]

Hey, bad joke. Like a praying man. Hey, hey, hey, man, they gonna call somebody. Somebody got bugs in the room.

[Ocho]

Hey, that's what's gonna surprise him, right? When I see him in person, that's gonna surprise you.

[Uncle Murder]

But God damn it, when you see him tomorrow, he go like, damn, joker strong.

[Ocho]

Yeah, Joe. Yeah. Mind you, last week before I came to New York, huh? I've been here about four days. Isn't that right?

[Uncle Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

You know, I got 315 two times.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, you cutting up.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murder]

Well, you do two. You do 315.

[Ocho]

I'm lying because I couldn't get it back up the second time.

[Uncle Murder]

Joe, you hit 315?

[Joe]

Yeah, I hit 315.

[Uncle Murder]

Damn.

[Ocho]

Damn. Hey, Joe. Matter of fact, you know what? I'mma. I ain't gonna punch you. I'm gonna slap you with my backhand because I don't want to mess up my nails.

[Joe]

I'm. Hey, hey, hey. I'm gonna lift his little ass up and throw him over my shoulder. Wife. Yeah, I got something for him.

[Tony Ayo]

He's dribbling the ball with everything on the line.

[Uncle Murder]

He's driving down the pitch. He's facing price hikes and cuts past him.

[Tony Ayo]

Carrier contracts, tries to block him.

[Uncle Murder]

Oh, he leaves him in the dust. He's at the edge of the box.

[Tony Ayo]

He cuts past the non stop group chat, trash talk.

[Uncle Murder]

He clears on goal. He shoots no unlimited data for $25 a month.

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[Tab Ramos]

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[Tony Ayo]

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[Uncle Murder]

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[Joe]

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[Tony Ayo]

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[Ocho]

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[Tony Ayo]

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[Joe]

I got some for. I got some.

[Uncle Murder]

That's how you, you can put them over your shoulders,

[Ocho]

man.

[Tab Ramos]

Joe.

[Ocho]

Don't do me like that in public.

[Joe]

Joe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Murder]

AJ Brown got called out by his own childhood hero. Let's take a listen to what Tom Brady had to say. Say on new heights that position.

[Sports Analyst]

It's like, I almost want to like the psychology of receiver. I almost want to say like, you're gonna catch 110 balls this year, okay? You're 17 games, you're a great receiver. You're gonna catch 110 balls. One game you're gonna get 11, and one game you're gonna get three. And the next game you're probably gonna get 11. Then you're gonna three. I can't have you like the happiest guy in the world when you catch 11 or the most miserable guy on the team when you catch three. We got to look at it over the course of year. You got to sustain because it is a lot of emotional energy that you put out to that position to go, come on, come On. Got it. Come on. Stay locked in.

[Uncle Murder]

Let's go.

[Sports Analyst]

Because I need you. Come on. And it's like that position takes away. If you have that volatile, emotional output, it takes a lot of energy from a lot of people to keep that player really stable. So you gotta, like, try to reframe it for them and just say, listen, like, you may get three, but you're gonna get 11, and. Or you might get 11, 11, 11, and then, you know, three. Three. It's just the way it goes.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst]

If they're doubling Travis, you ain't touching the ball. That's the reality. If they're butching you at the line of scrimmage, but with the defensive end and they've got, you know, some ridiculous athlete over the top of you. Yeah. But it frees it up for other people, and you got to be cool with that. So, I mean, it's. That is a aspect. We're going to see it again this year. You know, who's the next unhappy receiver? And I understand it. I mean, that's why I don't. They want to be involved in the game.

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst]

You know, and AJ Wanted to be involved. I covered a lot of those Eagles games, you know, and that. That passing offense isn't. That's not what that team's known for, you know, so now he's actually going to a team where they are more known for their passing offense. So, you know, there will be maybe a little more satisfaction from him from that standpoint.

[Uncle Murder]

Go ahead, Ocho.

[Ocho]

Hey, I like exactly what he said, Uncle Joe.

[Tab Ramos]

Chad.

[Ocho]

That was me. That was me. One game, 11 catches. One game, 10 catches, Joe. Then all of a sudden, I get a game with three catches. What is Carson doing in the huddle before we break, lock in? What is Carson doing to me on the sideline when I go sit on the ball and my, hey, stay in the game. I'm gonna get you the ball. If I can't get it to you, please understand why I can't get it to you. And you are opening up things for other people. But then in my point, my whole thing, I always look at Carson, say, why are we allowing them to dictate what we want to do? Are we playing into their hand? I think we should deal our own. But I understood that's the way the game goes. It is ebbs and flows each week. Each week is different. Some weeks you're going to get yours. Some weeks you're not. But the hardest part for us as receivers, because we play a dependent position, is those weeks where you're not getting that ball. Oh, my goodness.

[Joe]

You feel like you ain't involved out there?

[Ocho]

Yo, it hurt, Joe.

[Sports Analyst]

I'm.

[Ocho]

I'm gonna lie to you, Joe, but it hurt. Not. Not only are you not involved, Unc, you're not involved because they taking you away. Yeah, they taking you away. And your team is not doing anything to put you in position to make a play. They're just saying, okay, y' all gonna take Ocho away. Okay, forget it. Y' all gonna have Ocho. We're gonna work with everybody else.

[Uncle Murder]

But the problem that.

[Ocho]

So now the problem. Oh, so I didn't. Did all this work Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. Now Sunday, I'm the decoy.

[Uncle Murder]

The problem that AJ didn't understand when he catching those 12 and 13. What about the other receiver? What is he going through? Yeah, you see that? See that? See how that happened? Now, at some point in time, when you getting your 11, 12, 13, that means somebody else getting them two to three. Right? Right, Ocho?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murder]

Somebody else getting them twos and fused. But you ain't thinking about them. Oh, yeah, yeah, boy. Feed your boy. Feed me, Seymour.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Murder]

I looked at it like, man, I got 13, I got 12, I got 11. I look over there, Rod got four. The first Super Bowl, Rod didn't catch a pass. Rod Smith did not catch a pass.

[Ocho]

I know he was hot, boy.

[Uncle Murder]

He come back the next Super bowl, get 5 for 1 8, 130 something and a touchdown. It. That's how it was. Some games I have monster game. Some games. Rock Foots have monster games. Sometimes Easy Ed had monster games. You just had to. The one thing we know is going to be constant. That 30. We're going to get 25, 30 touches.

[Ocho]

Yeah, every time.

[Uncle Murder]

So we got 65 plays. Now find out how we gonna divvy up those 30, 35. The 30 pass attempts and when John gonna complete 22 of them.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murder]

So you gotta me, Ed, Rod, two running backs and a four and a four and Willie Green. Cause you know if somebody get 10, they ain't with 12 more passes. Divide up between six people, four people, five people.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, hey. And if. If he called your number, you tried to make damn sure you caught your past. Then you man.

[Uncle Murder]

Hey, even if he didn't call my number, I'm trying to get open first. First one, first served. That's how it was. Look, I was with him the longest, and I had the best relationship with him. But he's gonna throw the ball to the guy that came open first.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murder]

Now he had a lot of trust in me because I was the biggest. I was the biggest, most physical receiver. And he know I'm gonna, I'm gonna fight. Hey, I snap, pull a guy hill, but slap off his damn ear before I let him know 70. Yeah, but that's the way it is. And I, I was trying to tell him. I'm like, oh, Joe, your number one receiver in today's game, he probably ain't catching less than 85, 90 balls, 17 games. Would you project it out? He gonna get somewhere between 85 and 100 balls. That's, that's if he just decent. You don't talk, you puka, you chase, you jsn.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Justin Jefferson. Yeah, you gonna get him.

[Uncle Murder]

Can't do nothing about this quarterback situation. That's why he ain't getting no balls.

[Ocho]

Oh yeah, he gonna be straight this year. He gonna be straight.

[Joe]

Who y' all talking about?

[Uncle Murder]

Justin Jefferson.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Murder]

Playing what he get Justin like, hold on, man. How I go from catching 105, 115 every year? So all of a sudden I'm struggling to get a thousand yards.

[Joe]

Yeah. Kyler gonna get him right out of there.

[Ocho]

He got over it, but barely.

[Uncle Murder]

But. But I also want guys to understand that you're still valuable even if you don't catch. Catch passes. You can run, you can block, cuz your time gonna come.

[Joe]

It does, it.

[Uncle Murder]

It does. I mean there have been very few people that every once in a while you get a jsn, you get a Cooper Cup. Oo the them joker seem to catch. They catch eight, nine balls every game. Puk. Damn. But you go back and look, Joe. Oho them joker got 180. They done got 190 targets. They getting 12 targets a game. You give me 12 targets a game, I will come down with seven to eight of them. Seven to eight of them. Over 15 games. That's 126, 130 catches.

[Ocho]

You also have to think about too, how different the offenses are. Offense that they play in. Look at Sean McVeigh system.

[Uncle Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

McDonald over there in Seattle. Who else is like that?

[Uncle Murder]

Kyle Shanahan didn't.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

You know, have another bounce back season. Mark my words. Mike Evans.

[Uncle Murder]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Things on San Fran.

[Uncle Murder]

As long as he stay healthy, them hamstrings can hold up. Yeah.

[Ocho]

In Shanahan's system, stop playing.

[Uncle Murder]

Absolutely. Ocho, you're absolutely right. If he can stay healthy in that system, he gonna catch ass load of balls. Listen up. Nightcap. Nightcap is home to the big three reporting live on the Big Three. Just when you thought basketball season was over, you're wrong. And we're just getting started this week. Coach Stephen Stack, Jack James Johnson, DMV trilogy. Trilogy. Are going up against the undefeated Dallas power big man Greg Monroe, Glenn Rice Jr. Big names, real Hoopers and no easy buckets. Tune in Sunday, July 12th at 4pm Eastern on CBS with encore presentations Monday night at 8pm on BET. Week four of the Big Three takes over Los Angeles. Now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Claire Porter said you stopped him from going to coaches always to say he can't play. So you dropped your old favorites line. Oh, no. He told him they have to go sweat it out. And he ball out that game, too. He did. Man, we played. We had the rookie night. So there were Friday. So we had rookie night on Friday. We played that Sunday. Remember I told you we had. We went to Del Frisco's. Him and Ashley lee. Bill was 22. 5.

[Sports Analyst]

Damn.

[Uncle Murder]

Yeah, we had it right, you know, Right. You said your boy right. You know I said it right. You know, Joe, that's one thing about your boy. Now, when I'm in charge of the party, which if you on offense, I'm in charge of the party.

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murder]

I'm gonna tell you where we going.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murder]

And you gonna pay for everything. That's why I was a party planner before he was even involved. I was party planning back then. Yeah, man, he gonna come on the top, man. He told my man he don't feel good about sharp, man. I think I said, oh, oh, no, man, you go get your ass out there, run some 110, sweat, throw up, whatever you got to do, get your ass. Hey, we're going to do some contrast, man. I guys, y' all don't realize how Portis had a good career. He had a really good career. He went to the Pro bowl. He had 1500 yards rushing. It's both years in Denver. He was NFL rookie of the year, offensive rookie of the year. Porter. I, I'm, I'm. I'm upset at Portis, cuz Porter's supposed to be in the hall of Fame. That's. That's how much talent he had easily. But I, and I can say this now, cuz it's over with. But y' all don't know how many nights I sat in my hotel room and watch Portis leave and take his ass home. I ain't say nothing. Porters, if I know you Think I'm the only one to see you? Pope. I need to call him Pope. Pope, you think I'm the only one to see you? Why you won't do, right, bro? I say, bro. Do you know how special you are? I say, porters, I played with an mvp. I played with a subo. Mvp. I say, porter, you got more talent than you, but you don't work as hard as you. You don't want to lift no weight. You don't want to do ish. It was so frustrating. It was so disappointing. And I knew. I knew once I left, he wasn't gonna be there.

[Ocho]

It's only a matter of time, because I could.

[Uncle Murder]

I could somewhat keep him. You know, keep him. Keep him in the go. You know, keep him between the lines. Guys, I can somewhat keep him between the lines once I left. I know he would.

[Ocho]

Hey, y' all used to run that play in Denver. TD used to run that play, too, that Peyton Manning and Edging used to run. That fake auntie handoff, that long stretch, and then they. And the line, and they cut back against that grain.

[Uncle Murder]

Oh, oh, yeah, yeah. Well, we talk. That's. We run. We run. We ran handoff. Our favorite two plays was handoff strong and handoff weak.

[Ocho]

There it is.

[Uncle Murder]

We toss it. We'll toss it to td. He'll start wide. And on that play, you only get one cut you got.

[Ocho]

That's it. Well, Porters used to kill that playboy in Denver, boy.

[Uncle Murder]

Oh, that's why you had so much success, because we treated it the same way. It didn't matter who you were. You came in, you got one cut. Alex Gibb. Rest your soul. Alex. Alex wasn't doing all that dancing. He said, you ain't at the club. Ain't no dancing back here. Get your ass down here. One cut. I'm like, hold on, Alex, how you telling this? I said, this, man. I said, this man don't want a Russian title. He the MVP of the Super Bowl. He the MVP of the league, and you telling him how to run. Well, clearly it worked, didn't it, Sharpie? I said, yeah, Alex, you got a damn point. You got a point. But, Portis, guys, Porter's had so much ability. That man go back and look at the game that he had against Kansas City. What he did, like. Like 225 touchdowns.

[Joe]

Oh, no.

[Uncle Murder]

He could go, hey, Joe, once.

[Ocho]

Once he get in.

[Joe]

There were no catch,

[Tony Ayo]

man.

[Uncle Murder]

But I. But I. But I knew, because, like I said, I could kind of keep him. You know, I could talk to her and put my arm around it. He gonna go in. He gonna go into. He gonna go in the rating room, be dropping the dumbbells like he lifting. He ain't living ish. He claiming ways. He ain't living ish, man. The way he's heavy, man, I can't, bro. You gotta have it, mofo. Free agent step on Diggs. Says he's the best wide receiver number two in the NFL and no one is better than him. Name your number two receiver right now. And is he better than me? Oh, they're a number two receiver better than. They're a couple.

[Ocho]

I mean. Yeah, it's a couple.

[Uncle Murder]

Dallas got what? Whoever you say is one. The other two is better than Stephon Cincinnati. Whoever you say is one is better than him.

[Ocho]

Minnesota.

[Uncle Murder]

The Rams.

[Ocho]

The Rams. Hold on now. What he said has true to it now

[Uncle Murder]

team that their number two is better than him. Right?

[Ocho]

Right. As you go again. As you go again, you go a bit further and you get a little deeper into some of. Some of these other teams like he is. He would be a bona fide. Their number two is not better than him.

[Uncle Murder]

And yeah, for sure.

[Ocho]

And he's right. Even coming off an ACL injury and having a thousand yards and I'm not sure how many touchdowns he has now, if they're gonna use him, you take their number two and you put him in that place, you're still gonna get the same production based on what he's able to do.

[Uncle Murder]

Hell, I think he'd be good in Baltimore. Hell, I'm not so sure what you call him is better than him.

[Ocho]

What did I say? What did I say?

[Uncle Murder]

He would go bmo.

[Ocho]

Give it a chance. Either Baltimore or the Commanders. I'm still standing on that too now.

[Uncle Murder]

Hell, he'd be good in Cleveland.

[Ocho]

Hey, you know what? That's a good one.

[Uncle Murder]

Might be even better.

[Ocho]

That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah. I'm curious to hear what the chat has to say, especially outside of Dallas. You know, Dallas, Cincinnati, Minnesota.

[Joe]

Rams.

[Ocho]

Rams. Well, we have in Philly, we. I mean, limited. He's not proven yet, but he will be the number two. I'm trying to think who else. I mean, there's truth to that.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murder]

But the thing is, Joe Ocho, and we talked about this.

[Ocho]

Yes.

[Uncle Murder]

Once you start bouncing around, it's hard for you to. That's how people look at you now. They look at him as a journeyman receiver. Ojo.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murder]

Joe, you know how it is. Once a player all of a sudden you start getting traded, you involved in the trade, and then you involved in a trade, and you involved in a trade. You're a journeyman.

[Joe]

Hey, but it's crazy though. Cause he was a thousand yard receiver last year and I thought he played great for the Patriots, bro. Yes, like he was reliable and all that. How the hell.

[Ocho]

Hey, I mean, great team leader too, Joe.

[Uncle Murder]

Yes, I agree. I agree with both of you guys. But the thing is, it's just how they view you now, Ocho, you know, hey, think about it. He started in Minnesota, he went to Buffalo, he goes to Houston, he goes to New England. And now this will be his 15.

[Ocho]

How old is Steph now?

[Uncle Murder]

What'd you say, 32. How old is Steph, Ash? I think he's probably 32, 33. It gotta be.

[Ocho]

Yeah, you know, it doesn't make it any better with all, all the off field stuff because obviously, man, y' all

[Uncle Murder]

talking about David talking about Detroit Lions. So you try to say he. Oh, so whoever you say is what if? So Ahmad Ra is one. He better than jmo.

[Ocho]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Uncle Murder]

Don't do that.

[Ocho]

Who said that? And that's my bad for leaving Detroit off that list. Don't do that. No, no. Let me add them to the pot too.

[Uncle Murder]

Yeah, for sure. Come on now. Chicago, good. Green Bay, good.

[Ocho]

Hey, them young. Them young bulls over there.

[Joe]

I guess.

[Uncle Murder]

I guess when you think about it, he's 32, Ocho.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Is he gonna get picked up? Y' all think he gonna get picked up?

[Uncle Murder]

Yeah, I think he get picked up.

[Ocho]

Absolutely. I guarantee. I bet it's one of those two teams. I just said Joe Watts, but What,

[Uncle Murder]

he made 20 million last year. Those days probably over.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murder]

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[Ocho]

Yeah, I mean he won't, he won't make bet bet minimum as long as they give him respectable. Give him something respectable based on what he's able to come in and do.

[Uncle Murder]

Rail Owens doesn't believe there will be any drop off with AJ Brown leaving the Eagles. I mean they've got Devontae Smith. He's always been a number one guy. Even when AJ Was here. He could have easily been receiver number one at any game. So again he's going to show leadership, he's going to bring those guys along. So I don't see any drop off. Those guys are going to be fine. Ocho, how you taking this?

[Ocho]

And TO is right to understand these systems. He understands the difference in the officer schemes that Philly runs, the offensive scheme that the Patriots run. Hell, the Patriots throw the ball what, a hundred times more. I mean obviously I'm exaggerating the numbers saying 100 times more, but they're, they're, they're throwing offense. You know, if you look at, if you look at Philly having a running back like Saquon, you can understand why even in the passing era that the NFL is now, they would be a run first team. You're one of the few teams that have a back that is elite in a tier one running back where the offense flows the run, the run opens up the pass.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Over there in New England, they throwing that thing.

[Uncle Murder]

Yeah, they throwing it for sure.

[Ocho]

They letting it fly. And he going to have a much better season, maybe even a better season than all those combined.

[Joe]

Philly, I can see that. I can see that.

[Uncle Murder]

I just think the thing, look, I think some of the things that he did in New England, I mean in Philly he ain't trying that with Brable. Now Brable knows him. He knows Rabel from their time in Tennessee. So he knows how Brable is. Vrabel knows how he is. But I can assure you they're not gonna have some of the issues that they had that, that he had in Philly. They're not going to have that in New England.

[Joe]

Hello.

[Uncle Murder]

Yeah, you know TO was very strong in the statement me and you and I was talking and people like, well AJ was the best receiver. No, AJ won a ring. Congratulations. But even in Philly he wasn't better than to.

[Ocho]

Nah, nah. But hey, he wasn't.

[Uncle Murder]

And that's not a knock on him.

[Ocho]

It ain't, ain't nobody in Philly ever played for Philly. Hell, ain't nobody in the NFL history is better than to. Unless you go into the conversation and want to bring up Randy Moss and Jerry Rice. And Jerry Rice is in a class of his own.

[Uncle Murder]

That's what I said. I said the three best receivers, and I've seen a lot of them is, is. Is for me, is Jerry's number one. A lot of people believe that, that, that, that. That two and three is unattainable. Some people got Randy, some people got. But for me, those are the top three.

[Tony Ayo]

One.

[Uncle Murder]

It's unmistakable, right? 22, 000 yards, 1500 catches, 193 receiving touchdowns, another another eight on runs. What are we talking? What are we.

[Tony Ayo]

What?

[Uncle Murder]

What are we. We're not even having that discussion.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, and Joe, you know how we talked about. I forgot we were talking about. You watch hockey up close. You watch 10 tennis up close. And how different. How different it is at. At the highest level. Joe, I had the opportunity, man, not only play with. To. But to watch him up close. When we had to play against him, he was with Dallas. Yeah, well, young boy, he was something special, man.

[Joe]

He was like that, man.

[Ocho]

Man, Joe, man, listen, man, he was something special, man. I found myself on the sidelines as a fan watching a friend of mine and got a better understanding on why he was as great as he was.

[Uncle Murder]

He was a monster.

[Ocho]

Saw Randy in person up close, Joe. So did I. Jesus Christ, Joe. I ain't never. I ain't never seen nothing like that. Yeah, ain't never seen nothing like that. The DB playing seven yards off the DB in his backpedal. Randy, take three steps and throw his hand up. You ain't even broke the cushion yet. Can you get. Can you get. Can you step on the toes first? Man, Randy, come off the ball, man. He hit about four, you know, about three steps, you know, Randy, three steps. He damn near eight, eight, eight, nine yards.

[Joe]

Absolutely, absolutely.

[Ocho]

He throw the hand up and if the DB is still in his backpedal by the time he get going like that, fourth or fifth step and the DB sitting in the back pedal trying to be pretty man strike at the band. Better be in a full out sprint already running backwards before he close that cushion. If you're not, man, it's old and to.

[Uncle Murder]

You throw heat to a hitch route, you're not getting him down. You better have the Calvary coming. Yeah, you're not getting him down. He ran angry every play and he

[Ocho]

shifty with it too. You notice how Big Tio was. He was a little shifty in the open game.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murder]

And look, he rubbed people the wrong way. But I love this game. I never questioned to. To gonna block Tio gonna do what he's supposed to do. Yeah, I gotta get all the antics. And they try to make it team, you know, make it seem like when they won, he didn't have play a role. But when they lost, it was because of his antics. I ain't buy none of that bull job. I ain't about none of it for me until somebody else come along. The three greatest receivers that I've ever seen. And I've seen a bunch of them, Jerry. I mean, look, so we just start. We forget one. Let's just start. Go two on. Yeah, we can forget. We can forget. We can forget. Number one, 1500 catches. The man had a TH000 yard receiving. Joe, at 40. You know who got the second most receiving yards at a four as a 40 year old? Oh, Tom Brady. What? Tom Brady got the second most receiving yards for a 40 year old.

[Ocho]

You know, it's hard. It's hard to play that long, Joe. Receiver. Hey, the organization, they got to love you, boy.

[Joe]

Damn.

[Uncle Murder]

Jerry had 100 yard. Jerry had 100 yard game at 42. Y' all better go look at y. Hey, and they weren't throwing the ball. Y' all better go look at Jared numbers, Ocho. Joe. Lamar Jackson in the NFL's top 100.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murder]

Ranked number 69.

[Joe]

Damn.

[Ocho]

Bull drive.

[Uncle Murder]

He dropped 67 spots.

[Joe]

Damn,

[Uncle Murder]

Ocho, do you agree?

[Ocho]

You know damn well I don't agree. Huh? Hey, listen, if it was number two last year, he should have dropped the number three. And that's. That's about as far as it should go. That's about as far as it should go.

[Uncle Murder]

I think the injury, Ocho, and the. The.

[Joe]

The.

[Uncle Murder]

The. The. The Ravens drop.

[Joe]

What was he the year before?

[Ocho]

Number two.

[Joe]

And he dropped the what, 69. Oh, yeah, that's y' all favorite number but you.

[Uncle Murder]

But. Hey, Chad. Chad. You feel what I said, Ocho? You see what I said, Chat? There you go. Oh, there you go. What I tell you? I wouldn't even think.

[Ocho]

I wasn't even thinking like that.

[Joe]

Now we got.

[Uncle Murder]

Nobody was but him.

[Joe]

Oh, now y'.

[Uncle Murder]

All.

[Joe]

Now y' all the word police. Okay? This how y' all gonna act, huh?

[Uncle Murder]

You see what I'm talking about, Chat? Nah, I told y', all, Ocho, and I've been trying to tell y' all who number one, but y' all didn't Want to believe that. Y' all didn't want to believe that, did you? Now look at it. Hey, nobody talking about. No, we talk about 69, the man.

[Ocho]

We talk about football.

[Uncle Murder]

Football.

[Ocho]

69 is our favorite.

[Joe]

See, I see what Spanky was talking about last night. I see what Spanky was talking about. Yeah, I see what Spanky was talking about.

[Uncle Murder]

He couldn't wait.

[Joe]

He almost jumped through his damn camera to let y' all know. Come on, man.

[Uncle Murder]

Ocho, I read it. I said lamar Jackson has been ranked number 69 on the NFL top 100 list. Ain't even going through my mind. That didn't even cross my mind. First thing he. It come to him. Oh, you know, that's y' all two favorite. Where did that come from?

[Ocho]

Yeah, that's why Joe number one right there.

[Uncle Murder]

Chat. Now. Y' all see it. Now y' all see what I'm talking about.

[Ocho]

Laughing in person.

[Joe]

Hey, Chad. Chad.

[Uncle Murder]

I don't know what he do. That's why he gotta get this sign.

[Ocho]

Matter of fact, you know what I just thought about, Unc. He tried to fool us on the show, but he need that permission slip because everything I talk about, he probably be doing, and she don't want him out that house. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

[Uncle Murder]

whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Joe]

Everything, like what? What you mean?

[Tab Ramos]

Huh?

[Joe]

What you mean everything you be doing?

[Ocho]

Everything I done put on here, you done probably bought all them toys and did all that. So you know what?

[Uncle Murder]

All right, that's why he can't go, Chad. That's why he can't go. Look what came out of mouth. We talking about ranking in the NFL top 100, and he talking about. See, he go whole left field.

[Joe]

My bad. My bad.

[Uncle Murder]

My aunt ain't on the bad.

[Ocho]

It ain't your bad. Hey, if that's you, it's okay. You ain't no bad brother.

[Uncle Murder]

That don't make you no bad brother.

[Ocho]

I still look at you the same, Joe.

[Uncle Murder]

Even though that's the case, it's still up. Ocho and ISO. Hey, we not fit to get rid of you because this how you you are.

[Ocho]

It's all good. Hey, Joe, Just be Joe. Let it out.

[Joe]

Hey, boy, Y' all out of pocket, boy. Hey, hey.

[Uncle Murder]

It's all good, though. Hey, but guess what?

[Joe]

Guess what. See, y' all can't fool me in chat. Cause, see, we already know. You know what I'm saying? When we do the orders, you. You notice how it's always me last and y' all fighting for first and second, so it don't matter that y' all say all that chat don't be believing none of that. Hell,

[Ocho]

the choke. The. The chat just said ISO 1, hunk 2, and me third.

[Joe]

Ain't no way. Ain't no way.

[Ocho]

You can't pull the wool over everybody ass too long.

[Joe]

Ain't no way. Ain't no way.

[Uncle Murder]

Boy, you've done a great job. The greatest job. The greatest magic trick that's ever been pulled. The devil convinced the world he didn't exist. The second greatest trick is Ocho. I mean, the ISO trying to pull fool us to making sure that he ain't number one and everybody know it is.

[Ocho]

Hey, you want to.

[Uncle Murder]

There's two great tricks. The devil convinced the world he didn't exist and Ocho convinced the chat that he ain't one.

[Joe]

Hey, yeah, yeah, he said it, right?

[Uncle Murder]

So you won also. Joe. What's up, Joe? I said, Joe. I sent something, Joe, in the DMs. He saw it.

[Joe]

What?

[Uncle Murder]

He saw it.

[Ocho]

What?

[Uncle Murder]

I sent you the deal today, Joe.

[Joe]

Hold on. What did you send me? You tell me you sent me.

[Uncle Murder]

I know you

[Joe]

would you send me something freaky.

[Uncle Murder]

I said this.

[Joe]

What was that? Oh, man, You know that's your boy over there.

[Uncle Murder]

I can't believe dude did that.

[Joe]

You know that's your boy.

[Uncle Murder]

Hey, man, 69, but that's.

[Joe]

Damn.

[Uncle Murder]

That's a precipitate. That's a precipitous drop.

[Joe]

Yeah, they tripping, bro.

[Uncle Murder]

Hey, sometimes you need LJ gotta come back with a vengeance.

[Joe]

That's what I'm saying.

[Uncle Murder]

Last time they did you like that, man, you came out. Hey, you was on a mission. I think you ended up number one. Last time they had that man ranked way down there like that.

[Joe]

And you need that sometimes, okay? Ojo, when you him, you know what I mean? You need them. You need a little doubt, you know what I mean? So you make. You lock in and. And hit that feel, you know? I mean, Put on the mean demonstration. Show them, boy, you ain't playing.

[Uncle Murder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Being demonstrated.

[Joe]

Look, look, look. That's it, right? Look, are we already.

[Uncle Murder]

We are, we are. Hey, bad out them diamonds. I mean, them sparks.

[Joe]

Look, look, look, look. Now you just open up a whole can of hash. Now you just feel like you just gonna throw it out there. See what I'm saying?

[Uncle Murder]

Hey, Joe. He said, papa, I'm proud of you. You proud? Hey, again. Good thing. Hey, my homeboy Bucky, used to be at the Savannah Police Department. Had to call that hostage negotiator. Talk him down four hours. He still tried to do something.

[Joe]

What's wrong with him? Oh, Joe, come on man.

[Uncle Murder]

Come on. Had to put. Had to put. I had to give me an ice pack.

[Joe]

Damn.

[Uncle Murder]

Yeah, I had to put an ice pack on it. I got me old baby socks about four cubes of ice and put him in there, take all the swelling out of him. Joe. Yeah, they saw me. Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, you gotta chill, man. You gotta chill.

[Uncle Murder]

You gotta chill.

[Tony Ayo]

He's dribbling the ball with everything on the line.

[Uncle Murder]

He's driving down the pitch.

[Tony Ayo]

He's facing price hikes and cuts past him. Carrier contracts, tries to block him.

[Uncle Murder]

Oh, he leaves him in the dust. He's at the edge of the box. He cuts past the non stop group chat, trash talk.

[Tony Ayo]

He clears on goal. He shoots

[Uncle Murder]

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[Tony Ayo]

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[Tab Ramos]

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[Tony Ayo]

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[Uncle Murder]

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[Joe]

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[Tony Ayo]

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[Uncle Murder]

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[Ocho]

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[Uncle Murder]

George Pickens will officially play the 2026 season on his $27.3 million franchise tag after Wednesday 4pm deadline pass. Pickens says like the tag and all that, it's just football first. So definitely play football first kind of like I did last year. Then worry about the, the contract. Well, let my agent worry about it really. Pickens is the only player to be franchise tagged this year and not receive a long term deal before the deadline. Daniel Jones 2 years 88 million Breeze Hall 3 years 43 and a half million Kyle Pitts 3 years 54 million Ocho yes sir. Are the Cowboys going to regret not signing pick to a long term deal when they could have got it? Because if he plays like he played last year, it's a $45 million, it's 45 million.

[Ocho]

They're probably not going to be able to, you know, to give it to him. Joe, obviously if you saw Pickens last year, you understand what you do, you're in a better situation with a better quarterback and a better offense in general. So he's going to pick up where he left off last year. He's going to have a great season and the Cowboys are going to regret it now. They're going to do everything they can this year in hoping that having George Pickens, you know, on that team, they get as far as they can. They hoping they get as far as they can. Uncle Joe. And I'm hey Joe. Honestly, I'm hoping they do. I know Pickens is going to ball out because of the situation that he's in. You have a very, very, very good quarterback. When the opportunities come your way, all you got to do is do what you did last year, make plays.

[Joe]

I sure hope you right oo I sure hope he.

[Ocho]

There's two things you can count on that when it comes to them people with the star in the helmet. You can count on CD going to hell to slap off. You count on George Pickens being NFL. NFL young boy. He gonna show up now.

[Joe]

Oh yeah, yeah. Hey listen, I hope he do his thing, man. I, I think, I think he will get paid. Uncle Ocho. Maybe not this season, I'm saying but after be in Dallas. Joe, how you figure that Ojo? You don't know.

[Uncle Murder]

You don't know What?

[Joe]

You know what's going to happen.

[Uncle Murder]

I just. Joe, I just don't see how they pay him. You know, Dak, they're going to have to do something with dad.

[Tony Ayo]

Joe.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murder]

Dak about to get over 300 million. He going to be close. He going to get 400 million. He going to want 65, 70 million dollars a year. What you going to do with Quinny Williams? What you going to do with CD

[Joe]

Listen, we going to have to cross them bridges when we get to them. But we take care of business this season. You win, everybody get paid.

[Ocho]

Everybody can't get paid.

[Uncle Murder]

No, Dak. Prescott's gonna want $150 million at signing. He's gonna want. He's gonna want 275, $300 million guaranteed. Joe and Jerry got it.

[Joe]

He got it here.

[Ocho]

It's a salary, Joe. You can't pay all them. Can't pay.

[Joe]

Well, listen, Ocho, listen.

[Uncle Murder]

It's a good thing to have Joe Dag making. What? What's Dak making? Dak making like 55 now, 60 now. What you think he gonna want next year?

[Ocho]

Highest paid quarterback, too, huh? Well, no, My homeboy.

[Joe]

Homeboy.

[Uncle Murder]

My homeboy.

[Ocho]

That's right. That's right.

[Joe]

You got some work to do, fellas.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I wish. But the best

[Uncle Murder]

I know, don't worry,

[Joe]

because y' all gonna hear from us. Y' all gonna hear about us. Y' all gonna hear from us all.

[Uncle Murder]

Damn.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murder]

No, we won't. I mean, yeah, y' all start out fast, but you know, a horse that. A horse that poop fast, don't pull on. He'll pull on. So I already know how y' all will get out there.

[Joe]

All right.

[Uncle Murder]

You gonna be hyped. First days, you gonna come out here, hype. Hey, what I tell you? How about them Cowboys? O joke. And just slowly as the season progress. Come on, man.

[Joe]

Come on. Nah, nah, nah, nah. That ain't gonna be us, baby. We locked in. We locked.

[Ocho]

Okay.

[Joe]

Yeah, we're gonna have the NFC sold up over there.

[Ocho]

So what about Philly?

[Joe]

Oh, man, they just lost A.J. brown. I know. They got the young boy just come in. What's his name? Melaka. What's his name?

[Tab Ramos]

Lemon.

[Uncle Murder]

Me?

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, we a. We ain't worried about the Giants. We ain't worried about their ass. Ne, they banged up here. Scatter.

[Sports Analyst]

Boo.

[Joe]

Neighbors all.

[Uncle Murder]

What?

[Joe]

Look, what y' all think I'm saying? That man had ankle surgery. Neighbors probably ain't even coming back this year. That what y' all know.

[Ocho]

What about Odell, you. You don't got no belief in Odell coming back.

[Joe]

I know. I hope Odell do his thing. I like Odell, but I'm saying, damn. You expect Odell to carry the. The. The damn Giants wide receivers.

[Ocho]

Boy, some neighbors come back. That's what they brought him in there for.

[Joe]

Come on, Ocho. Come on, Ocho. We know that ain't. We know they ain't happening. I think Odell gonna have some great. Some great moments. He gonna have some great games. But to think he gonna carry them for 17 games.

[Ocho]

Y', all, basically, what you telling me is the Dallas Cowboys will run the NFC East.

[Joe]

Ta da. Yeah. I've been. I've been trying to tell you that. I don't know why you act like it's so hard for you to understand. Damn. Damn.

[Ocho]

I like it. I can tell you. I know who gonna run the NFC East. I can. I can. I can. I bet my money on it. Oh, CD Lamb and George Pickens, I bet. And I bet that. Now, the team itself, I don't know, but that.

[Joe]

Hold on.

[Ocho]

How you gonna bet, CD Saying hypothetically, you know, if. If there's a way to bet, I'm betting on them to do their thing that gonna get them boys the ball. They gonna do their thing. Not as a team. I don't know what y' all gonna do.

[Joe]

Okay,

[Uncle Murder]

I'm gonna take your word for it. I don't know, Joe. I don't know. The Cowboys. The Cowboys. They. The Cowboys normally like Cowboy. That's one thing. We can count on, Mojo. We count on the Cowboys. Cowboys.

[Sports Analyst]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know one thing about it? They can move the needle. They can move the needle. It just don't. It don't move when it's supposed to, though.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah. You know, we're gonna make it happen. Now.

[Uncle Murder]

What you gonna make happen?

[Joe]

We finna get this championship. That's what we gonna get.

[Uncle Murder]

If the Knicks.

[Joe]

Hell on. If the Knicks just won a Damn championship in 35 years. Come on, man.

[Uncle Murder]

53.

[Joe]

53. Come on, man.

[Ocho]

I like it.

[Joe]

It's our time.

[Uncle Murder]

You see what happened? Oh, you see what happened? Because the Knicks won a championship in 53 years. He said, well, it's 30 for us, so it's time for us to win. What?

[Ocho]

I like it. I like it.

[Joe]

Yeah. It's time, bro. It's time.

[Uncle Murder]

Oh. Oh. The super bowl is so far, because next year it's in Atlanta, Joe. So you might want to wait till they come to Atlanta.

[Joe]

The super bowl in Atlanta, the next

[Uncle Murder]

year, the year after this year is going to be in SoFi.

[Joe]

Okay?

[Uncle Murder]

In 20. In 2027, it's in SoFi. In 2028, it's in Mercedes Benz.

[Joe]

Damn.

[Ocho]

When it's coming back to Florida, man. Dog,

[Uncle Murder]

I think it. No, Joe Ocho, I think it goes. I think it might go back to Vegas. Cause you know, they love. They love it in Vegas, especially now. And they love effing New Orleans. I don't know what it is about New Orleans, but nobody's had more super bowl than New Orleans.

[Joe]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Nobody has had probably more All Star games than New Orleans. Hell, NBA All Star Game. Hell, I know. I played in about three or four of them in New Orleans.

[Uncle Murder]

Yeah.

[Joe]

How many times we gonna play in New Orleans?

[Uncle Murder]

New Orleans, New Orleans. Get the Super Bowls, man.

[Joe]

Why is that?

[Uncle Murder]

Look, hey, it's a dome. Hey, they like to party. People like to go dress, have a good time. But see, that's why, you know, you put it in a warm. You put it in the warm weather, people like to get outside all these cold weather, man. Don't know they had the super bowl in Minnesota, man. It's damn, 10 degrees. What the hell you gonna do in Minnesota? Ain't nobody trying to walk around no damn Mall of America.

[Ocho]

America.

[Uncle Murder]

And that's no disrespect. Minnesota, Minnesota. One of the best kept secrets. Now, why it's kept. But anyway, that's neither here nor there.

[Joe]

Hello.

[Uncle Murder]

But anyway, I was saying. Look at Joe, look at this.

[Joe]

Yeah, no, I. I'm saying, I'm saying. Hello. I'm picking up what you put down.

[Uncle Murder]

Hey, hey, hey. Prince, back in the 90s, they had glam slam.

[Joe]

Yeah, off the meter.

[Uncle Murder]

Oh, he be up in there, too. And I think they had another club that Prince on their first. I think it was first half chat. Am I correct? I know glam slam

[Joe]

like that. Yeah,

[Uncle Murder]

I tell y' all some story off there.

[Tony Ayo]

Oh, shit.

[Uncle Murder]

With hell, shame.

[Joe]

With hell.

[Uncle Murder]

Once upon a time, long, long, long time ago, you know. You know, Dollar Bill said a long time ago, every game started in Africa. Long, long time ago. He had a bucket, nigga. Bucket naked.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Murder]

February 14th, guess what, it's on Valentine's Day this year, it's in Sofi. In February of 28, it's in Mercedes Benz. February 29, it's an allegiance. In 2030, it's in Nashville, Tennessee.

[Joe]

Damn.

[Uncle Murder]

You know they just built a new stadium. Buffalo. Don't y' all put no damn bid in trying to put damn Buffalo just built a new stadium. Yeah, man, look.

[Joe]

That should come. Hey, hey, that should come with it here. You, you build a new stadium, that mean you should be getting the, the, the, the super bowl or the, or the All Star Game? Absolutely.

[Uncle Murder]

They try to. Because what happened, you gotta. You have to be to get all the kinks and bugs out of it. So you have to be in the stadium at least a year before they'll give you a Super Bowl.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Uncle Murder]

But come on, man. I've been looking at SoFi, L.A. atlanta. Y' all know how we get down Allegiant Vegas. There's so much for you to do. You can sit your ass out by the pool. You could go gambling. They got eateries. Vegas got it all. Vegas. Vegas gonna be in a five year rotation. Vegas gonna get one every five years for sure. Every five years for sure.

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