Nightcap Hour 2: Zion Williamson’s VIRAL BODY Transition + Cam Skattebo RECKLESS at FANATICS FEST + Jaxson Dart’s EARLY IMPACT from John Harbaugh

Summary

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Nightcap Hour 2 — July 20, 2026

Host: Shay Shay Media & Playmaker (Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson)

Episode Overview

This episode of Nightcap brings the legendary energy of Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson as they dive into three huge sports stories currently making headlines: Zion Williamson’s viral body transformation, Cam Skattebo’s wild antics at Fanatics Fest, and quarterback Jaxson Dart’s early experiences with new Giants head coach John Harbaugh. As always, their takes are unfiltered, insightful, and packed with stories from their own careers and lives.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Zion Williamson’s Viral Body Transformation

[03:08 – 13:26]

• Main Topic: Zion’s dramatic offseason change goes viral, sparking debate about motivation and accountability for athletes.
• Weight Clause Context: The hosts discuss in detail Zion’s contract clause with the Pelicans, which fines him if his weight + body fat % exceeds 295.
  • Joe: “If he fails to meet periodic weigh-ins, the amount of guaranteed money in his contract can be reduced.” [03:27]
  • Raises the question: Would LeBron or other superstars ever have such a clause?
• Comparisons to Charles Barkley:
  • Charles Barkley’s own struggle with weight is highlighted—Moses Malone telling a young Barkley, “You fat, and you lazy. Those are the only two problems you got.” [07:51]
• Athlete Accountability:
  • Ocho: “If this man can stay in this type of shape, I know you gonna dominate.” [06:16]
  • Joe: “The easiest thing you do is get in shape in offseason… but when you start playing every other night and you hit that road… that’s when it’s different.” [04:54]
• Importance of Environment:
  • Ocho: “This is why it’s so important, bro, that when you come into the NBA… you come into a great damn environment.” [10:32]
  • Miami Heat/Pat Riley is cited as a model organization that instills discipline from the start.
• Personal Stories:
  • Stories about managing weight as pros (e.g. fines per pound in training camp), growing up with tough farm work, and the long memories of formative discipline.

Notable Quote:

• Joe, about squandering athletic opportunity:
  “To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice to give. You have a gift.” [17:01] (Referencing Steve Prefontaine)

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2. Cam Skattebo’s Reckless Viral Backflip at Fanatics Fest

[31:53 – 43:03]

• Main Topic: The viral moment when Cam Skattebo tries a WWE-style backflip intro at Fanatics Fest, raising concerns about risk for pros.
• Shelly: “He was a showman before he got hurt… Him and Jaxson Dart.” [35:44]
• Cam Skattebo Responds:
  • Cam doubles down on his “wild maniac” persona:
    “I totally enjoy that part. I think I less enjoy the brain dead kind of guy, but it is what it is. I mean, the New York people love it, so I'm just gonna keep being me.” [36:22]
• Philosophy on Durability:
  • Joe: “Be smart… all you have to do is go look at Earl Campbell. You can't break these guys. They're too big. They're too strong. Be smart. Sometimes you gotta know when the journey's over.” [36:49]
• Discussion on NFL Running Backs & Longevity:
  • “It’s a rarity that ‘run-to-contact’ backs have a long shelf life.”
  • Examples of Adrian Peterson, Derrick Henry, and Ezekiel Elliott’s career arcs.
  • Advice for young players: Make business decisions to prolong careers.
  • Ocho reminds that “the running back position isn’t valued unless you’re special.”
• Anecdotes:
  • Players share personal stories about being fearless in youth and eventually learning the hard lessons about self-preservation and career longevity.
  • Reflection on average NFL careers—“The average dream only lasts two and a half to three years.” [46:06]

Notable Quote:

• Joe: “I don’t care how tough a material is. If I hammer it enough, I break it.” [43:01]

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3. Jaxson Dart on John Harbaugh’s Early Impact with the Giants

[59:43 – 64:47]

• Main Topic: New York Giants QB Jaxson Dart comments on the early impact of head coach John Harbaugh.
• Jaxson Dart’s Quote:
  “I think the biggest change has been culture. How Harbs establishes camaraderie between the team, the coaching staff. The standard is refreshing.” [59:43]
• Hosts’ Reactions:
  • Immediate banter about Giants-Cowboys Week 1, with Ocho confident in the Cowboys’ superiority, especially with the Giants missing Malik Nabers.
  • Shelly: “There’s just no offensive threat to put fear in anybody… Dallas probably gonna win that first game.” [60:49]
• Cowboys vs. Giants Roster Talk:
  • Debate on both teams’ offensive weapons and defensive secondaries.
  • Joe: “Y’all secondary ain’t been good in a minute, Joe. Just quiet as kept.” [63:17]
• Classic Trash Talk:
  • Shelly: “You gonna let him talk about your team like that?” [63:59]
  • Ocho fires back, defending the Cowboys’ new talent.

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Memorable & Notable Quotes

• On Athlete Motivation:

  • Joe: “To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice to give. You have a gift.” [17:01]
  • Ocho: “Some guys really need you to be damn down they back… If you come into an environment where they don’t police you, eventually you gonna fail.” [10:52]

• On the NFL Life Cycle:

  • Joe: “The average NFL career is two and a half to three years. Tom Brady played 23. A lot of guys play 10-18. But most? You said you had a dream to play. Ain’t nobody promised you no 5, 10, 15-year career.” [46:00-46:20]

• On Reckless Play:

  • Joe: “Sometimes you got to make business decisions.” [39:17]
  • Ocho: “And in the running back position, hell, hopefully it ain’t too late, you know, because their career isn’t long.” [39:19]

• Classic Banter:

  • Ocho (joking with Joe): “Boy, I smoke you boys like a blunt, I’m telling you.” [51:39]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Topic | Start | End | |------------------------------------------|-----------|-----------| | Zion Williamson transformation | 03:08 | 13:26 | | Athlete accountability & discipline | 13:26 | 24:46 | | Farm/family stories & personal discipline| 24:46 | 31:53 | | Cam Skattebo’s viral moment | 31:53 | 43:03 | | Life/football lessons & running back chat| 43:03 | 46:47 | | Jaxson Dart & John Harbaugh/Giants | 59:43 | 64:47 |

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Quick Takeaways

• Zion’s new physique has fans and pundits buzzing, but there are lingering questions about consistency, motivation, and the importance of environment & culture.
• Cam Skattebo’s wild backflip was entertaining, but serves as a teachable moment about risk, durability, and business decisions for pro athletes—especially running backs whose shelf life is short.
• Jaxson Dart lauds John Harbaugh’s impact early in camp, signaling a culture shift but doesn’t convince the Nightcap crew the Giants are ready to dethrone the Cowboys.
• Hosts inject personal stories about discipline, family, and lessons learned the hard way—reminding listeners that greatness is more than talent, it’s about environment, dedication, and smart choices.
• Classic Nightcap banter keeps things lively, cementing the show as must-listen late-night sports conversation.

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For those who missed the episode:
This was a classic Nightcap—equal parts sports analysis, motivational storytelling, and legendary locker room banter. Whether you’re debating Zion’s future, Skattebo’s wildness, or the Giants' new direction, Shannon and Ocho’s energy and stories will keep you thinking and laughing all night.

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[Joe]

Zion Williamson body transformation is going viral.

Zion contract with the Pelicans includes a specific weight clause stipulating that the sum of his body weight in pounds and his body fat percentage must be remain below 295. If he fails to meet periodic weigh ins, the amount of guaranteed money in

his contract can be reduced.

Somebody says Zion Williamson's offseason transformation is the equivalent of Ben Simmons hitting threes in the gym.

Joe, just like your Cowboys. Is it the year, Zion?

He does look good. He does look good.

And when he plays, he's another one guy. You were talking about Kawhi. You talk about his weight and the injuries and he's had his fair share.

But when Zion Williamson plays, he's phenomenal.

Now I wish he get more rebounds because I think a guy look, if you go, if Charles Barkley get every damn double digit rebounds, so can you.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, when I seen this bro, I said, I, I, I seen it on ig. I said, damn, somebody hearing the whispers. So I guess the guy who been training him, he responded. He was like, nah, we, we don't hear the whispers. Damn it. He heard something.

[Joe]

Oh, you did it.

[Ocho]

He heard something. Because, man, if this man can look like this, bro. Yeah, listen, he already can't be stopped when his ass play. Uncle Ocho, I don't care who you put on that man. He too quick, he too fast, he too agile. If that man in peak shape. Uncle Ocho.

[Shelly]

Yeah, man, y'.

[Ocho]

All.

[Joe]

So let me ask you a question, Ocho. Joe. He said his trainer said they didn't hear the whispers.

So why didn't he come in there

like that as a rookie?

[Ocho]

Hello.

[Joe]

Or his second year.

[Ocho]

Hello.

[Joe]

Or his third year. Why the hell do they got a weight clause? I bet you LeBron ain't got no weight clause in his contract. I bet she ain't got no weight clause in his contract.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Joe]

So why does he have a weight clause if he ain't Hearing the whisper. Why he looking like that now? Because now I got a problem. Because you wasted five or six of these years bull driving, but you don't hear the whispers. Come on, bro. It's okay to hear them. It's okay to hear them. This is how you should look. Now, looking like that is one thing. Staying like that is something entirely different. Because, you know, it's the easiest thing you do is get in shape in off season. Because guess what? You structured you right there. But now when you start playing every other night and you hit that road and you grabbing them wings and them chicken fingers and that burgers and you. And you drinking them high calorie sodas, that's when it's different. See, you got the guy cooking for you all the time, not Joe. Oh, y' all ain't gotta do nothing but go work out, train, and come home and he got veggies and he got chicken breast and he got salmon and he. Yeah, he got a good stuff of it. Yeah, but when you going on that road, Joe, and you know this, hey, when you play them that late game on the west coast and you just got to grab something and go, yeah, they. And they got fried chicken and they got wings and they got pizza and they got tater skins.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. That's when you got to be dedicated to bring your own stuff. Like Unc used to say. He used to bring his own. But, man, look, Damn, all that. Hey, me speaking to Zion right now, bro, if you. I'm telling you, if you can stay in this type of shape, I know you gonna dominate.

[Joe]

Boy, you look good.

[Ocho]

Boy, I ain't gonna lie to you.

[Joe]

He look great. You. This is all star. That. This body right here, all star. This guy right here is an all NBA selection.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah, no question.

[Shelly]

Matter of fact, you know, forget the whispers. How many. How many years you got left on his contract? Is this a contract?

[Joe]

Probably like two or three.

Probably like at least two or three.

Ocho, because he signed the rookie extension.

But. But they stipulated it. I can. Look, Ocho, I'm not putting. You're not gonna take no. Take no money away from me, right? Talk about. Think about it. We talked about this in football, Ocho. They put it. They put in. In Kyler Murray's contract. Why they put that in there? Because they know you're not gonna do what you supposed to. I can't get you to Jiaha. Now I'm paying you hundreds of millions of dollars, and I gotta tell you, you gotta be at this weight.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

How did. If you had a regular job and your boss tell you he stipulate your contract.

You got to show up to work on time.

You got to do your work.

[Ocho]

Really.

[Joe]

They probably gonna fire your ass.

[Shelly]

You know the funny thing about it, too, I'm not sure if you had anybody on your team like that.

[Joe]

Yeah, I had a bunch of guys that couldn't make weight. Hell, yeah. I had a.

[Shelly]

So sometimes, you know, you got to put stipulation on certain people that have a problem with their weight. Certain. Certain people that have a problem with drinking, certain people, they have a problem with eat. You know, you don't. And Zion just happened to be.

[Joe]

I.

[Shelly]

Have there ever been other NBA players, Uncle Joe, that have had this issue with their weight fluctuating?

[Unknown NBA Player]

Like it's.

[Ocho]

It's. It's been guys who.

[Joe]

Yeah. Charles Barton say he weighed 300 pounds. Charles said he didn't want to go to Philly.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shelly]

What he weigh?

[Joe]

Who he didn't want to go? Charles weighed 300 at 6. He said the best thing happened to him, he went to Philly and Moses Malone. Moses Malone said, you got two problems, Charles. He said, you fat and you lazy. Those are the only two problems you got.

[Ocho]

Facts. Fact.

[Joe]

Let Charles tell you the story what Mo told it. Yeah, you got. You only got two problems. You fat and you laving.

[Ocho]

You fatten them.

[Joe]

Facts. He said, what we gonna do?

He said, we ain't gonna do it all at once. He said, we'll lose 10 pounds in the next month.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Charles said, okay.

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Boom.

[Joe]

Lost. Lost 10.

Yeah, they felt okay. Lost another 10. Charles said he got down like 250.

[Ocho]

Yeah, it was a rap.

[Joe]

Couldn't do nothing with him.

Hell, Charles Average like 22 points, 1112 rebounds for a career.

[Shelly]

Yeah. Choice. Yeah.

[Joe]

At six fold.

[Shelly]

He was out there balling there.

[Joe]

That's my thing To Zion.

Zion. Zion should be a more explosive Charles Barkley.

Oh, yeah, but y' all better stop sleeping on Chuck. I know he talk a lot, and, you know, y' all tell you he

be on the guys.

He be on the guy's head.

Charles Barkley was a great player.

[Ocho]

Now, he was a dog.

[Joe]

A great.

A great player. I remember. I remember when he was at.

At Auburn with Chris Morris.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah, yeah, they.

[Unknown]

They were good.

[Joe]

They were really good. Chris Morris from Georgia.

He a Georgia boy.

[Ocho]

Oh, is he?

[Shelly]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

I ain't know that.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, but look, when you think about it,

[Joe]

I think, what.

[Ocho]

What year is this for Zion? O.

[Joe]

It's got to be like Six.

[Shelly]

Six.

[Joe]

Hey, look that up right quick. I think he has two more years.

He has two more years on his contract. So guess what?

He played like he's supposed to. What they gonna do, Ojo? What they gonna do, Joe? Give him another one.

[Shelly]

Hey, but let's. That's why this year is so important. That's why he's coming back looking the way he's looking.

[Joe]

And you just hope.

You just hope when guys like this, you hope they. That they've learned, and this is just not a contract year, because we've all been in situation where we see guys

do what they need to do just

for the contract year, and then once they get the contract, they revert back to what they've done before.

Now, I hope this isn't Zion, but

look, the fact of the matter is that they put that.

They put that. Man, Zion entering his eighth year.

[Ocho]

That went fast, bro.

[Shelly]

It's been eight.

[Joe]

That fast year.

[Ocho]

It goes for. Hey, look, this is why it's so important, bro, that when you come into the. A professional sport, especially NBA, that you come into a great damn environment. Say what you want to say about the Miami Heat and Pat Riley and how strict, man. That's the type of. Some guys need that, bro. Think about if Zion was, man, we wouldn't have to wait this long, Uncle Ocho, for him to get.

[Joe]

No, he don't.

Hell no.

[Ocho]

You see what I'm saying?

[Joe]

Yep.

[Ocho]

Like, some guys really need you to be damn down they back. You know what I mean? Like, I just think it's needed at times because if you come into an environment to where they don't police you, they don't. They don't check your weight and your body fat, they don't make you lift weights, you know, three, two. Three times. Hey, man, at some point, hell, you

[Joe]

gonna fail, because everybody don't have a gun in the bag. They can't police themselves.

[Ocho]

Hello.

[Joe]

And that's the problem.

I. I heard Dion Dawkins say Buffalo

Bills, they give you a weight to come in. If you're over that way, they charge you 800 a pound. Ocho.

Hey, Honda, when I was in the league, it was 50 or 75, but the team set that. And then it doubles every time that

you come in over there.

So if you two pounds over and they charge you 50, obviously, that's a

hundred dollars, 150 for 75.

Then it goes doubles. So it's 150 and 200 for every

pound that you overpower that up quick. Because guess what?

When it's hot.

It's easy to get that way. You sweat that thing off, you go sit in the sauna.

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[Joe]

What happened when it get cold?

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And I know y' all know this. In Denver, it get real cold. In bmo, it get cold, too, you know.

[Shelly]

Hey, Joe, I was overweight a few times, Joe, you. Yeah, Joe, how. My joke, Joe. I came in, but we got. We got.

[Joe]

We got at 175. He ain't never been overweight. I get on. I get on the scale, eating sausage biscuits. I get on the scale, Joe. I get on the scale. I'm eating sausage biscuits. I mean pancakes. I got pancakes in my head. I'm eating. I never had no weight problem.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shelly]

But when it was hot, like September in October, and I was about. About 190, 200. We got cold, Joe, man. About 205.

[Joe]

That man ain't seen 200 a day in their life with cinder blocks tied around his ankle. He ain't 200.

[Shelly]

I was rocked up

[Joe]

180. Go look at it, Ocho. You know, people can pull your. Pull your thing up and watch you on YouTube, right?

[Shelly]

Yeah. And that's probably from September to October.

[Joe]

No, that's what. That's whatever Shelly talking about.

Stop lying on me.

Yeah, I ain't lying on you, Shelly. You know, you got less patience than me, but.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I'm happy for Zion, man. Hey, hey, hey. Seem like he. He looking forward to having a. A big season this year because. Boy, that boy look good, boy.

[Joe]

No, he looked great.

[Ocho]

That boy took care of his damn. So I'm talking about.

[Joe]

Oh, we.

[Ocho]

Can you imagine? Probably the explosion that he got now is probably a little lighter. Hey, let me tell you something, man. If you ain't in that weight room, bro. Chad. Y' all listen up, man.

[Joe]

Do it.

[Ocho]

Doing a professional sport, obviously, I know football, but in basketball, you cannot get through a 82 game season if your ass ain't in that weight room, bro.

[Joe]

Your body will break down.

That's too much up and down, Joe.

[Ocho]

It's no way. And it's nowhere in hell you get to play 82 games and you don't touch them weights at least two, three times out the week. You got to. That's why. That's why it's so important that when these young guys get drafted to teams that they have a veteran presence, somebody who can show them the ropes. But not only that, you got coaches who you can trust and who can show you the ropes as well, because it's easy to get lost Bro.

[Joe]

Yeah.

Joe, you said something very interesting earlier. You say going to the right situation matters. It does. It absolutely matters.

Because I, I, I, I, I remember

a lot of guys that we had because I had Dan Reed for three years, I had Wade Filler for two years. And a lot of the guys, they.

They would do for Mike, wouldn't. They do what they wouldn't do for Wade.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And me, I'm gonna play hard, regardless. That's just the way I was brought up, you know? Hey, Barney Porter. Hey. The man give you an honest letter.

You give him all the days work. Don't be, don't be going on people job, bull jiving.

And that's what it made me mad. I say, see what y' all do. Cause y' all see, they didn't fear Wade. They feared Mike. Cause Michael cut your ass.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And Michael tell you he cut you. He said, everybody that's in this room, you here for one reason.

I wanted you here.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Nobody else. Me. And when you leave this room, you don't have to ask any questions. Why? It ain't no general manager, it ain't no owner, it ain't no position. Coach. Me. I'm the reason you here.

That's all I needed to know.

But I, I, But I was a

guy that always did what I was supposed to do, right, Bro, I understand.

This is a, this is a lifelong dream of mine, and I will mess, and I'm. And I'm not going to do what I'm supposed to, like, as far as eating and training and, and being on time. I don't. I'm like, guys, you. There is no way you can tell me that you just woke up yesterday

and said, I want to be an NFL player. But a lot of times, because you've been great and people let you skate. You come late, you the best player, Ocho.

You can come late.

You make the most plays.

You do X, Y, and Z.

You can do all this stuff.

I could not in good conscience. I can't function like that.

[Ocho]

Because somebody who really believes in you, bro, and you let them down, that should do something to you. I was just telling my son this the other day, bro. I said, man, it's a slap in people's face when they expect something out of you. You know what I mean? And you don't deliver. Like, they give you an opportunity and you play with it, man. That's a slap in that person's face, bro. Yeah. So I get it. I'm like you. Hey, when Boston drafted me, I wanted to Be the best rookie they had. Uncle Ocho, I did everything I could. Hell, I just wanted to be on the damn court. I gotta tell you, they talk about ISO this, damn that ISO, boy. I was hawking somebody down, trying to play. Hey, I'm locking up. I'm in the passing lane, huh? I'm being a piss on defense, boy. I ain't getting but about five shots a game, Ocho.

[Joe]

Yeah, but that's all you. I'm making them count though, the effort. That's it.

[Ocho]

Yeah, making them count.

[Joe]

Steve Prefontaine said that. He said to give anything less than your best is to sacrifice to give. To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice to give. You have a gift.

[Shelly]

I gotta put that in my notes right there. That's a good one there.

[Joe]

That is a gift. It's demeaning.

[Ocho]

Yo, I like that.

[Joe]

De Reeves went and got a guy from Savannah State in the seventh round. He a, he, he figures like hell. His brother, the first round draft pick. They went to the same house, they ate the same thing. He gotta have something in there. I just don't get it, guy. I just don't get it. And I'm not you. You can't make me get it. I don't, I don't.

I don't do lazy. I don't.

[Ocho]

Not when you done reached the highest level, bro.

[Joe]

Yeah, okay. I don't sacrifice. I done did every. I done did everything right. And now I get to the highest level. I'm gonna skate now. I didn't skate in jv. I didn't skate in high school. I didn't skate in college. Now I get to this level, I'm gonna skate.

And then Wade Phillips.

Wade Phillips was my, was the D coordinator for my three years before he became head coach. He go get Jim Fossil. Rest Jim Foster. Soul Jim Fossil. Say, son, I'm gonna build my office around you. You the best player outside of John L. Where you're the best player we got on offense. I'm going into my fourth year a seventh round draft pick. He said I'm the second best player.

Okay.

He said I'm put a lot on your plate. Let's deckle my position coach, man, he worked Ocho. I ain't gonna lie. By the time we got out of individuals, practice was a breeze. Oh yeah, man, that man. What the dogs, man, look here, Joe, I was tired like a one legged man in the ass kicking contest. That's how I bet that man worked individual.

Yes, Ocho, individuals back then was 45

[Shelly]

minutes golly,

[Joe]

ain't nobody worked like that tight end group, man, that man had us do it. Everything I'm talking about we soaked. I'm talking about so beyond soaked.

[Ocho]

Why? Hey, I haven't been there. I'm telling you, man.

[Joe]

I just.

I. I can't sacrifice the gift.

God. God didn't give me a.

He didn't give me a musical ability. He didn't give me the ability to sing. He didn't give me the ability to dance.

He didn't give. He gave me the ability to play a sport. Yeah, he gave me that. He gave me this body.

He gave me this mind.

And he allowed me to be born to Mary Alice Porter and Winton Pete Sharp.

[Ocho]

Hello.

[Joe]

And then he said, you know what? I'mma break y'.

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I'mma.

[Joe]

I'mma pull y' all apart. And I want them boys to go down there and live with their maternal grandparents, Mary and Barney Porter. All that's a part of the plan. And people like. And people are your mom. No, you see, as long as you don't care who get the credit. You don't realize sometimes. Sometimes. Sometimes the best decisions don't involve you. But because you wanted to involve you, you want your name to be in print.

Man, look here.

What. What. What my mom gonna do with two

teenage boys on the damn south side of Chicago?

She working. My daddy going his way. My mom doing her thing, trying to work.

I know where y' all can go.

You'll get. You gonna get. You gonna get two meals.

You ain't gonna get no 3. Get cereal if that's a meal. Okay. But you go, hey, you'll have a

roof over your damn head. It might leak. But, hey, you ain't gonna be in the rain all the rain.

They gonna rain directly on your ass. It might leak a little bit on your ass.

You'll get. Hey, you'll get fed, but you gonna get disciplined. And you gonna come up knowing right from wrong.

Cause Barney Porter ain't gonna have it no other way. And then when he passes, Mary Porter gonna be.

For that first couple of years after. After Popeye passed, she was more ruthless than he was.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Because she said, y' all ain't gonna slack off now.

[Ocho]

Hello.

[Joe]

And my grandma, when my mom said,

mama, I. I'm gonna take the boys, she said, no. No, you not them my boys. No, you not taking them.

So I just.

God been too good for you to sacrifice that, Gil. Fo. God gave you those. Those feet. He gave you that ability to be entertaining. And you sacrifice it to do what? You mess over it.

[Unknown]

To do what?

[Joe]

How many guys we. What I can say when we go back home, hey, Sean, tell them what?

Not better than you.

That's a hell of thing to say. 40 years for. 40 years ago.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

People looking at you like you crazy.

Yeah. Yeah, man.

Shot with you.

No, he was.

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[Joe]

No, he was really good. He was really good. Yeah, he was. At that point in time, he was

better than I was.

He absolutely was.

He a lot.

But he wanted. He wanted to drink, smoke dope, didn't want to come to school.

I. I just didn't know.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey. When you get exposed to stuff like that at an early age, bro, Chad, y' all stay with me, boy. You get exposed to something like that at the early age. And that's why I'm so glad, man. The homies. I was kicking it with my homeboy vault, bg. We was together every day. None of us was on none of that. You know what I mean? We weren't drinking, smoking. All we did was hoop. I think the guys who you grow up with, the guys who you run with, hang with whatever the hell they doing, nine times out of ten, you gonna be doing the same damn thing. Yeah. So once I got.

[Joe]

I was hanging them fields.

What you say?

I was hanging in them fields, picking peas, picking up pecans.

I was like, damn, do we. I. I was like, I remember, you know, being spanking we talking about. I was like, man, do you think other kids work like we work? Hell no. And I ain't go to school. I never went to school the next summer. And kids, you know, obviously the white

kids, they go into Disney. They doing stuff like that.

They ain't talking about. They ain't talking about working. We go from clipping onions to cropping tobacco to catching chickens to picking up pecans to bailing hay. I'm a little fella, I'm nine, ten years old, lifting them big old bales of hay. The hay that y' all see, they've given them damn cows and them horses. Yeah. At 10, I could handle a bell. And hey, by my damn self.

[Shelly]

You were strong back then, boy.

[Joe]

What you think? Oh, you think. Oh, you think this a weightlifting body, huh? No, ain't nothing weightlifting about. Yes, it definitely helped, but no. And I wanted to show, cuz I was. Like I said, they called me Peewee because I was so small. Yeah, I had to show. I had to carry my own weight. But, man, hey.

Cause you start walking behind tobacco picker, as you get older, you start cropping tobacco Once you start cropping, you get big and strong enough, you can hang the racks.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

You graduate hanging the racks to working at the barn, you get to drive the trucks to and from.

Yeah, you going to do it. That's my goal. I want to. I walk behind the picker. I wanted to crop, I wanted to hang racks. I wanted to work at the back. I want to work at the barn.

That was my goal. I mean, I was so smart, I had to tiptoe.

Cat man, cows be on fire. End of the day, I don't tiptoe so much because I ain't tall enough, because all the other guys could, you know, throw it on the leg. I had to tiptoe to get. Let me say, boy, I' ma tell granny you up here screaming, try you

gonna be to hurt yourself.

Man, we're talking about itel y' all be talking about. Ito. That was a taller tale I'mma tell

Gr you going to be to hurt yourself. Yeah, she talking about, boy, you going be done.

Give yourself a her. You won't be able to have no kids.

That's the last thing.

I ain't thinking about no kid, Grant.

I'm.

I'm live 12 years old. I think about hanging these racks up in this.

Hanging these racks up so I can get to the barn.

[Ocho]

Hey, Chad say. Chad say that farm strength different, boy.

[Joe]

Hey, watermelons. I know y' all you. I mean black people. You ain't supposed to say watermelon. I live lifto mofo, too.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe]

Oh, you load the road thing lifting hay.

That was the first time my body ever cramped up.

But if you have anything now, they got them big, big, like them big, big, big bales. But we used to have those little square bells like this in ocho.

[Shelly]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And. And they had a.

The. The twine, the.

The strings down there. And so you had to. You had to grab it like this and take it and put your knee

up under it and put it up there.

Yeah, I was a little fella doing

it because I couldn't let my cousin, him do something.

I had to be there.

I had to do it, too.

Big old watermelons. Y' all know, I don't know what

these watermelons they got. Not them little watermelon, little cattle, little bait, softball side down watermelon.

Them damn watermelon. We had this damn long.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe]

We lived a whole truck clipping onions.

Take it down there to the mascot, man. Y' all better check my working resume.

If I don't work another day outside you're good.

I'm good. I'm more than good.

Y' all heard my brother said he ain't. Hey, Barney Porter said, get up and watch the sunrise. Who heard that, Chad? Anybody heard that? Anybody parents tell them that? Grandparents tell them that.

[Ocho]

I know.

[Joe]

Get up and watch the sunrise on a Saturday.

[Ocho]

I ain't never heard that. Hey, but guess what, man. Hey, hey, it built good character, man. Shaped y' all up, man, to some decent young man.

[Joe]

Hey, it was gonna build me to go to the military because I was already disciplined. And my brother said if my grandfather doesn't pass, because he already told the coaches.

Coach hall coached all my uncles. My uncles ended up getting. Breaking their leg, breaking their collarbone. And Barney said, nah. He said, no. He said, hall, he done talked about uncles.

Cause they had. Hey, they had the same type of body.

They just weren't as tall as I am. But they had the same type of body. They grew up working on a farm.

They got muscles. Big old wide backs and quads and hamstrings and biceps.

Coach hall done talk Papa into letting them play. He say, hall, if one of them boys get hurt, who gonna help me on this damn farm? Mr. Mr. Porter, ain't nothing gonna happen to him. James break his leg.

He didn't tell the assistant coach

that.

Papa said that if somebody. Something happened to one of them boys,

one of y' all ass gonna be out in the fields helping me with the fields. He done talk. Hey, take that boy home.

He pull up there. James, get out there. Get out the car. Got the crutches. Papa looked at him. What the hell wrong with that damn boy? Mr. Porter, he broke.

He broke his ankle.

Did hall tell you what I had told him?

No, sir. He said, I told him if something

happened to one of them damn boys, one of y' all going to get

your ass out there in the field with them.

Mr. Barney, I don't know anything. I don't know anything about farming. So who in the hell go help me in these fields?

He said, don't worry about it. You won't get another one.

You won't get another one. So he wasn't gonna let us play. Me and Frank had already.

Hey, I'm going to the military. I ain't going to be working. I ain't going to be working like this here.

[Ocho]

Hey, that got some good labor out of y' all boy in the military.

[Joe]

Hey, Joe, I was working minimum wage with 337 an hour. It ain't much more right now. Where your bull job is 725. That's what. That's what the. The federal level is. I mean, state, it varies, you know, 10, 15, 20, 25. But minimum wage was 3. 37 an hour. They tell him what somebody told me. I'm telling you what I know. Five dollars a day. That's what we made. Five dollars. Now, if you crop the back, you got 16.

But I walked behind the picker.

I got five. And it made a mistake in Bull Drive. And he took my pay down and got a raise. I got a raise, the $6 because my cousin Landy talked me into getting the raid. I said, Mr. Joe, man, we be working hard.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

He said, y' all pee weeds call

my cousin's son down. Cause he said, Mr. Joe, the sun done going down.

It's time to knock off.

Now that we call getting off work knocking off.

He said, all right, all right. Pee we sundown. What y'. All. What you think y' all worth? I said, a dollar. He gave us a dollar. And then again. Libby, take her black ass home. Granny. Mr. Joe gave them boys a raise. A dollar raise. And. And all they do is play.

Brandon,

you just rock it just like this. Joe, don't you

[Shelly]

in that chair.

[Joe]

Rain didn't say nothing.

Mr. Joe pulled up this morning to pull up the next morning. Joe. Hey, Mary, how you doing? I'm good. Libby told me you gave them boys a raise, so. Yeah, Mary, they. They. Them little fellas, they work hard now. Yeah, but she told me all they did was play. She said, take it back.

Ever said you won't find a man that's ever told you I've been on his job and then give him nothing but a hundred percent of everything that I got? No matter the job, The Broncos, the Ravens, cbs, Fox, espn. That's all I know. I can't sacrifice the gift, Ocho. Right. Anything less you're sacrificing the gift came for.

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[Shelly]

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[Shelly]

Look here. You gonna be okay, Uncle Joe. He gonna be okay. It was just a backflip. It was just backflip. He's just showing you, you know, how. How solid that ankle is right now. And most of the time, you know,

[Joe]

after you show me a training camp.

[Shelly]

Huh?

[Joe]

Show me a training camp.

[Shelly]

Oh, he definitely gonna show you because, you know, he was. He was a show now. He was a showman before he got hurt. Him and Jackson dart. That's.

[Joe]

Oh, I love Scat pack. Oh, Arizona State. Oh, he would like that.

[Shelly]

He was nice now. He was nice.

[Joe]

Oh, he would like that. Oh, yeah. Oh, I like the young man.

[Shelly]

I like him a lot. I don't want to. I don't. I don't want him to take too much of what makes him. Him away from him, you know?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Shelly]

Fun kid. Entertaining. He's a live wire. And. And that. That's some. That's something that. That makes him who he is, and that's something that the New York Giants need.

[Unknown]

Hold on.

[Joe]

Before you go, Joe.

He later addressed it. Take a listen.

[Ocho]

Do you enjoy being like, the wild Maniac moniker? Like, is that insulting or is that, like, you?

[Unknown NBA Player]

No, I. I totally enjoy that part. I think I less enjoy the brain dead kind of guy, but it is what it is. I mean, the New York people love it, so I'm just gonna keep being me. And if they want to say I'm brain dead and I don't have no brain, then who cares? It.

[Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe]

No, we're saying be smart. I don't know, but you need to. Hey, all you have to do is

go look at Earl Campbell. You can't break these guys.

They're too big.

They're too strong.

Be smart.

Sometimes you gotta know when the journey's over. Go ahead, Joe.

When you.

[Ocho]

When you young, man, you just.

[Joe]

You.

[Ocho]

It ain't too much that you scared of, bro. Think about it. When. Yeah, when y' all was 21, 22, y' all probably was out there. I couldn't imagine trying to do no Damn backflip at 45. You know what I'm saying? Think about it. I'm just saying, man, like, when you young like that and you got so much life ahead of you, like, he ain't thinking about no damn injury, man. That man been laid up for how Long. He just want to get back out there. And this is. This is what you have to deal with with these youngsters, bro. And like he say, new the New York fans love it. That man gonna keep doing it, bro. It's just who he is at this point.

[Shelly]

I like it.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey. During the game, y' all want to put that damn blink on and go. No.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe, if it's a crucial situation, it's okay. It's okay. I'm telling you, it. It's a rarity that run the contact

backs have a long shelf life, right.

You get an anomaly, you'll get a Derrick Henry or you get an Adrian Peterson. Guys that run to contact. But more times than not,

[Shelly]

I mean, that's true.

[Joe]

Hey, yo, I give you a prime example, Ocho. You, Joe. Yo, guy, you remember Zeke used to run the contact, didn't he?

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

And then he went from a racehorse to a plow horse.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Zeke was mean, boy.

[Joe]

And after a while, what happened, Joe?

[Ocho]

Yeah, he started putting that blink on. He was getting over.

[Joe]

Hey, those hey. Runs that used to be 25 or 30 yards turned into a five and six yard game. They break it down. You got to be smart in this league. You got to be smart, Ocho.

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, there are times like, hey, I got to be bravado. I gotta go across the middle and take it. But sometimes, hey, let me put this turf up on my.

[Shelly]

I mean, over. Over time, he'll understand it. He doesn't understand it.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Shelly]

Too early for him to understand it. But he gonna get to a point. Longevity concern. Sometimes you got to make business decisions.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Shelly]

Sometimes you got to make business decisions.

[Ocho]

Hey, and in the running back position, hell, hopefully it ain't too late, you know, because their career isn't long.

[Joe]

And it gets even shorter when you run the contact.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Because they. The freshest are back. Is going to be Joe when he's

right out of college.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe]

That's the first it's going to be because guess what? Normally, if he's any good, he's probably 20, 21.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

By the time you get to 26, they looking at the next 20, 21 year old. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

That's how they look at it. I just want to look. I want the man. I want the man to have because

like you said, man, he and Jackson Dart, they great.

And I want.

I want him because I understand that the running back position is.

It's starting to come back, Ocho.

For certain ones.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I mean, yeah, you get a Christian McCaffrey. But how many people got a Christian McCaffrey, right? Or Jamir Gibbs or Saquon or D. Henry? Everybody got those. Nah, that's Reserve or, or the guy up in Buffalo, James Cook. Everybody got those, right? Those are very few that has that kind of value. If you see guys the most valuable,

look at the running back, Love, Jeremiah Love.

See the contract he got? Why you got that contract, ocho? Cause he's 20.

[Shelly]

Yeah, yeah, he's 20.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe]

Now if you get a 60, 60, 60 whatever. Made 58 million, 60 something million dollar contract at 20. Now in order for it to, to, to the like they still believe in you, you have to get you 100 million dollar contract. When your contract up in three years.

[Ocho]

I mean, you got to be putting in some work. Boy,

[Joe]

you get that kind of money,

you go that high as a running back, oh, you get your body ready

to take about 300 carries.

Just going to get it ready. Ocho, you already know. It's just like, hey, wide receiver, you the number one pick and you go into a bad team, hey, they're gonna throw 120 balls at you quick.

[Ocho]

Hey. And they don't value the running back no damn way. Hell, dude just won damn MVP in the super bowl here. They ain't bring him back. Yeah, Seahawks, they don't value running back.

[Tab Ramos]

Canine.

[Shelly]

Yeah, you don't value. If you're not special, they don't view him as.

[Joe]

Yes, absolutely. You gotta, you gotta be. You got to be a Christian McCaffrey, a Jameer Gibbs, a Derrick Henry. You got to be Saquon. You got to be special. Special.

[Shelly]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And it's like, I mean, we appreciate

[Shelly]

what you did, but hey, they, they believe they can replace you.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Shelly]

If you ain't him, Joe, they be. They believe they can replace you.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah. Hell, that's what. Hey, that's in any damn sport, Uncle Ocho.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Ocho]

Yeah, if you ain't him.

[Joe]

But that's, that's what you got to do. And that's why I'm telling.

Scat, bro. I understand there'll be times that you're

gonna have to get that first down.

Yeah, you have to lower your shoulder,

but be smart about it. Hey, I don't care how tough a material is.

If I hammer it enough, I break it.

Yeah, I don't give a damn.

Beat on it long enough, it's gonna break eventually. Oh, hey, it might take me a while, Papa. You tell my brother all us, all

the time we be chopping wood, he like, hey, Boy, move that stump.

I like. I'm looking at him like he's like, move the stump.

[Ocho]

I'm like.

[Joe]

He said, boy, you can move anything if you cut it up in enough pieces. Now bust that stump. I'm looking at it as just a singular piece.

[Amazon Health AI]

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[Joe]

He's telling me to split it up and then I can move it.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So in other words, it can be broken. Beat on it long enough. Just be smart. Scat. Just be smart. I understand. Like you said, Joe, when you young,

you think you invincible.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

You think you like.

Oh, man, ain't nothing can happen to me.

I'm young, man. Come on, now. Oh, show you. I went back. Hey, go back and think about some

of the things that you did when you was young.

[Shelly]

Jumping off. Jumping off the roof.

[Ocho]

I'm like,

[Joe]

you heard my brother told. What my brother said he was most proud of.

He said he wasn't supposed to be here.

[Ocho]

Yeah,

[Joe]

I wasn't.

I just.

Oh, have mercy.

They gotta be a God. How else can I. I can't explain it, Joe.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I can't. My grandma used to say, boy, said, you gonna end up in jail.

You gonna end up dead. You tell me that all the time. I'm like, damn.

[Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe]

You

[Ocho]

were getting into stuff like that.

[Joe]

Oh, I was just. Joe. I just.

[Ocho]

My mouth, man, you talked back a lot.

[Joe]

Couldn't. I did, Joe.

And she couldn't hit me hard enough to stop me.

She stopped me for a day or two. But I like Smokey. I'll be talking again. I'll be talking again.

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[Joe]

Hey, man. Yeah, I'll be. Hey.

Make me sick.

[Ocho]

But, hey, you get knocked in the back of your head. You talking about somebody your grandma or your mama make you.

[Joe]

You be here before you.

[Shelly]

You gotta say nothing, Joe. Hey, they reading Body language and all. You sucking anything.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah. You know, I think the Jamaicans call

it kissing your teeth.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shelly]

Lord have mercy, boy, my grandma was quick, but you got something wrong with your mouth.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And all this.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Oh, man, I'm just breathing.

[Shelly]

Yeah. I. I give you something to breathe quieter.

[Ocho]

Yeah. I knock the taste out your damn mouth. Yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, the more people that play. Yeah, we might need to bring some of that back, cuz.

Boy, look here.

They these kids now, these days.

[Ocho]

Are you going. You going to jail now?

[Shelly]

I was just gonna say that. Joe, you going straight to jail.

[Ocho]

Yeah, it's going straight.

[Joe]

Oh, for sure, for sure, for sure. Yeah. Your brother told you that. Hey, they would dig Barney up right now to rest him. He number bone. But they Put him in jail. Put him in jail. So your bones deserve to go to jail for what you do?

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, man.

[Joe]

But I want a young man to have.

Look, I understand because when you young, you excited you in the NFL. This is a lifelong dream. But the thing is, is to try to make the dream last as long as you possibly can.

[Ocho]

Hello.

[Joe]

And what people don't realize, Ocho say, man, my dream was to play in the NFL. Well, your dream might only last one year.

[Ocho]

Yep.

[Joe]

Tom Brady had a dream, and it lasts 23 years. But the average dream only lasts two and a half to three years.

That's your. You said you had a dream to play. Ain't nobody promised you no 5, 10, 15, 20 year career.

Think about it. Tom Brady played 23 years. A lot of guys play 10, 15, 18 years. But the average NFL career is two and a half to three years. So when you factor in all that, that's what it is.

[Ocho]

Can't play.

[Joe]

I stopped playing basketball once I got. After my freshman, I got drafted. I came back because I wanted to win. I wanted to win the iba. I want to interview a basketball championship one more time.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And then I went to the park. We lost the man. The old man beat the brakes off us, Joe. I went to the park. I said, man, this is my last time playing. I say, I'm, I'm, I'm a. I said, I'm not gonna lose. I said, it's the last time I'm playing ball. This is the last time I'm gonna play on the blacktop. This last time I'm play organized basketball. I'm never picking up a basketball again. I walked off the court. I didn't lose that day. I didn't pick up a basketball again for 30. I, I, I can't remember last time. The last time I played basketball, Joe, was 1991. It's been 35 years since I dribbled a basketball and somebody was up there trying to defend me.

[Ocho]

Damn you. Oh, you probably. You probably got a goal at your house, though. You shoot on there now.

[Joe]

I do.

I don't, I don't even go out there, Joe. I don't even go out there.

I. Man, you ought to go skiing for what, Phil. Mayor. Don't. Lindsey Vaughn, she didn't play. She didn't play football to get in shape for skiing. I didn't because I saw too many

guys tear ACLs, Ocho.

Skiing, playing basketball.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. When I was playing in Utah, you know, Obviously.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

In professional sports, you ain't supposed to ski or snowboard.

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And.

[Ocho]

No, but, boy, look, when I was in Utah, ojo. I'm a snowboard. I like to snowboard. I think that's something we all should go do, man. We should go snowboarding.

[Shelly]

Now you talking, Joe.

[Joe]

No.

Huh?

Nah, I'm good.

[Ocho]

Snowboard, sideway. You on the board. It's like riding a skateboard.

[Joe]

Look, what the.

Dude, when they put the hips in,

they said, Mr. Sharp, you got 20,

25 years out of them.

[Shelly]

Damn.

[Joe]

I'm gonna try to get my 25. I ain't trying to go through that again, man. I ain't trying to go through it again, huh?

[Shelly]

On the snowboard, you're gonna be okay because it's the snow.

[Joe]

Ain't like you still fall.

That still hurt.

You see Lindsay. You see Lindsay Von. She's fail. Yeah.

And almost had to have a leg amputated.

[Shelly]

You ain't going fast.

[Joe]

You don't know how fast it go. You don't get to control that. I. I go. I go watch y'.

[Unknown]

All.

[Joe]

I go, hey, I tell you what, we'll go. I drank hot chocolate.

When y' all come back in there,

say, hey, man, we had a great run. Hey, I'll be right there. I'll be right there by the fireplace.

[Shelly]

It'll be the same unless you get on. On the board. Huh?

[Joe]

I'm good. You gotta find something.

You gotta find something. Get one of those bicycle.

Get one of those beach cruisers.

[Ocho]

What about if we went go kart racing at, like. At, like, Andretti's or something?

[Joe]

Ah, Lord have mercy. Man, this man here.

[Ocho]

You a. You can't. You could get in the damn go kart and let me smoke you.

[Joe]

I used to race with the kids.

Joe.

[Amy Ehrett]

You.

[Joe]

Joe, you too heavy. Joe, you can't. You can't.

Your car ain't gonna be moving that fast, Joe.

[Ocho]

My driving skills, though. My cutoff game, like, trying to pass me.

[Joe]

I.

[Ocho]

You know what I'm saying?

[Joe]

I'm right there, Joe.

Hey, hey, that slingshot move, man. I'mma bump draft you.

Hey, I'm like the intimidator. I'm like, there ear. See? You rest his soul. I'm a bump slingshot.

Go ride. Move you out the way.

[Ocho]

And I know I ain't got to worry about. Ooh, hell. Cause he ain't got but one eye. Can't drive that. Damn.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shelly]

What that mean? But I don't got nothing to do with driving.

[Joe]

Yes, it does. It has everything to do with driving. And you think, oh, no, you think I'm gonna be in the car with you looking like Cyclops? Hey, half the road you can't see.

[Shelly]

I would hope so when I'm the better driver, y', all, too, man.

[Joe]

Oh, hell no. Who told you that? Ocho, what makes you think you better

drive to me

[Shelly]

based on the fleet of vehicles I've owned, which are all foreign and fast as hell, you know I'm the better driver, and I haven't been in one accident. Y' all done been in accidents?

[Joe]

No, no, we all.

We all done.

Oh, we all didn't have fast cars, Ocho, You.

[Shelly]

Nah, ain't nobody had what I had.

[Joe]

You can't drive it.

[Shelly]

I let it go. It go. I only had it for a year.

[Joe]

That was. What was it?

[Ocho]

Ojo?

[Shelly]

I had a Bugatti that 2010 season.

[Ocho]

Oh, that thing. That thing whip up some dust one in, man.

[Shelly]

And I did. I mean, I. Man, I used that launch, that launch, that launch button one time and never did it again.

[Ocho]

I still don't think you can drive no damn go car, though.

[Shelly]

You want to bet?

[Ocho]

I mean, you can't. I mean.

[Joe]

Hey, Joe, we right here. We right here in Atlanta. So we go. We go to Andretta. I see what you're putting down. They got one up on 85, and they got one out there on

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[Ocho]

Boy, I smoke you boys like a blunt, I'm telling you.

[Joe]

But, you know, they got the big ones up there off 85. They got them big go cards.

[Ocho]

Yeah, the ones I'm talking about. The ones I'm talking about. You're gonna have to put a helmet on that one.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rach]

Okay.

[Shelly]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you do. You done in that, man.

[Joe]

Now, you ain't gonna put no helmet on. You know, I put a helmet on for you for. For like 26. By 26 good years. I put a helmet on you.

[Ocho]

You. You. This. This different, though.

[Joe]

This different.

You know what I'm saying?

[Shelly]

Hey, yo, you know I grew up riding four wheelers and dirt bikes in the street, right?

[Joe]

Oh, Joe, what you think?

[Shelly]

We were doing one doing that in Arkansas?

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[Ocho]

Cars, Four wheelers, dirt bikes.

[Joe]

What you talking about? See, Joe, see, y' all got the four wheelers. See, when I came along, we used to have three wheelers, but they got too dangerous.

[Shelly]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Now we had them four Yamaha.

[Shelly]

Still make them old school three wheelers, too.

[Joe]

They do.

[Shelly]

Oo Y still got everybody.

[Joe]

Everybody had them Honda three wheelers.

Yeah. Getting down, tipping over.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Joe]

Yep, yep, yep, yep.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, back in the day, boy, if you had a moped, a go cart. Yeah. Or a dirt bike, or you were killing something. You hear me? You were here.

[Joe]

None of that. Barney Mary wasn't having that. They weren't buying it. Said, boy, get on that. Get on that sickle out there.

He said, say, paddle fast. I think that's what it comes from in my child.

[Ocho]

Because they.

[Joe]

They weren't really about that. For whatever fun you could have, you had to imagine it. You had to dream, you know, you

played with your cousins and stuff like that.

But as far as, like, having apparatuses that you could have fun like all your friends had.

Yeah, man, that is what happening.

[Shelly]

Some good days.

[Joe]

IPhone was going there.

Check, check. Catching the chickens in the. In the pen or trying to catch

the hogs or something.

That was our fun.

[Shelly]

Hey, hey, Joe. Christmas Day, that morning, all the fellas get up, man. We link up at the gas station to go ride.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shelly]

Dirt bikes. Martin Luther King parade. Yeah, y', all, man, we. We used to tell 27th Avenue, up tear Carroll City, up tear the freeway up. We all on the news. And it's way. It's way back when you ride, too.

[Ocho]

Hey, didn't you just get a new bike?

[Shelly]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. R7. Yeah.

[Joe]

What you got, three. What you are.

[Shelly]

Yeah, yeah. You know, I could ride. I'm for real.

[Ocho]

I ain't. I ain't. I ain't like. I ain't like Ocho. I got bikes. I got triumph bikes, but mine cruise, you know what I'm saying? They'll get up. I got.

[Joe]

I got.

[Ocho]

I got three bikes, but one of them will get up through there, but I don't know. I don't never be. When I'm on Ocho, it's a nice day outside. I'm just riding, cruising, you know, you gotta. Hell, you gotta drive for these other people out here.

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[Ocho]

Not just.

[Joe]

Yeah, you gotta be. You gotta become. On the motorcycle.

You gotta become a defensive driver.

[Shelly]

I would be like that, Joe. You know, I drive everybody in front of me, and I create scenarios in my head for those that are around me. If something happens, okay, this is what I gotta do.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shelly]

When I was in Cincinnati, boy, man, Coach Lewis got wind of me having a Memorial Day weekend, being on. I had two street Choppers and the Hayabusa.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, the boys had.

That's what they had, Ocho.

[Shelly]

Marvin hit me, boy. Listen, if I hear about you on the goddamn goddamn bikes again right there on south beach, you got to see. You got to See Mike and Katie about your contract. We will take money from you.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shelly]

And that's not a threat. That's a promise. I sold them things so goddamn quick.

[Joe]

Boy, that's somebody never wanted.

[Shelly]

So they weren't playing?

[Joe]

Yeah, it's the off season.

[Ocho]

But you ain't supposed to be on them.

[Shelly]

I ain't supposed to be on them.

[Joe]

Only Jordan could have ride motorcycles.

[Ocho]

Hello.

[Joe]

He had a bike. Michael Jordan.

[Shelly]

He had a.

[Joe]

He had a motorcycle club.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Amy Ehrett]

What?

[Joe]

Yeah, he had a motorcycle club just like he got a fishing club now in a NASCAR club. Yeah.

[Shelly]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Joe]

He was out there riding 140 miles

an hour with no helmet and no glues.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Anyway, that man mess around.

[Shelly]

No helmet.

[Ocho]

No helmet. Hold on. Do you have to wear a helmet in Florida, Ojo?

[Shelly]

Nah, nah. I wear mine though, Joe. I don't play, Joe. Yeah, I wear mine anyway.

[Joe]

Yeah, nah, I'm good.

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Jackson Dart says he's already seeing an early impact from new head coach John Harbaugh. I think the biggest change has been culture.

How Harbs establishes camaraderie between the team, the coaching staff. The standard is refreshing. It's a refreshing feeling. Feeling.

Oh, Joe, you already said what Establishes

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Who said this?

Jackson Dart, quarterback of the Giants.

[Ocho]

What you trying to say, cuz? We got them game one. Hell, I already penciled.

[Joe]

Oh yeah, I see that right now.

I see that right now. Giants go to get off to one of those people start.

[Ocho]

Oh, you don't believe that. Come on.

[Joe]

I do.

[Ocho]

Keep it real.

[Joe]

You don't believe where y' all play at? Where y' all play at?

Metal is.

[Ocho]

I actually. I think we. I think we do.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah.

It's over.

[Shelly]

You know what? You know what, too? Honestly, I'm gonna give Dallas the edge in this simply because Malik neighbors isn't there.

[Ocho]

Hello.

[Joe]

You know, and I'm watch Odell make another catch. Ocho watch. Oh, they'll make another catch like this and looking like this here and catch it back there like that.

[Shelly]

I'm with you when you're right. I'm with you when you're right. There's just no offensive threat to really. That really puts any fear in anybody that's on. On the Giant squad. You got to have an offensive threat, like, just something that, like, put fear in the. In. In the Dallas secondary or just in their team in general. Dallas probably gonna win that first game.

[Joe]

Well, they got what you call them, don't they got. They got Patrick Ricard. They got the fullback, but they got the tight end.

Likely.

[Shelly]

I said push.

[Ocho]

Oh, they do got likely.

[Shelly]

Yeah. You know what I'm trying to say. No disrespect.

[Joe]

Hey, but, hey, I think I. I think I'm duel. I think Brian Burns.

I think them new guy.

I think them guys go. Go hunting.

[Shelly]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I think unleash the hounds. Hold on.

[Ocho]

What y' all think we gonna do? Well, if they hunt, what the hell y' all think. Y' all think we just gonna.

[Joe]

What y' all been doing all this time now?

[Tab Ramos]

You.

[Ocho]

You try. See, you go. There you go bringing up old stuff. That's old, man. We in 20, 26. We didn't move forward.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

All right. Hey, the thing is. Oh, Joe, did you just realize, you know, you own every day now. You own every day now. Ain't no just coming in here and there. You know, you. Hey, you got to deal with this thing on Sunday, Monday, Wednesday, Thursday.

[Shelly]

It ain't gonna be that bad for him during football season. I see the Cowboys going, like, normally going, like, maybe 12 and 5, so he only have gonna deal with the traffic for five, five. Five weeks out of. Out of season.

[Joe]

Oh, but, you know, you go 12 and 5, and then you flame out

the first round of the playoffs.

[Shelly]

Ocho, it's gonna be rough, Joe.

[Ocho]

Oh, here we go. Here we go, Here we go. Here we go.

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[Ocho]

Y' all hear him Chat.

[Shelly]

I said something good.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I know, I know. But if you lucky Enough to

[Joe]

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[Ocho]

lucky as you was doing basketball season here, you know.

[Joe]

Oh, and they got. Didn't they get the kid from Ohio State. They got speed. They got speed for days.

[Ocho]

What do you think? What you think the Cowboys got? You don't think.

[Joe]

Y' all ain't got no speed.

Y' all thinking. Y' all think of that? Y', all. You know, y' all secondary been good in a minute.

[Ocho]

You talking about the old secondary. This new secondary is what's happening.

[Joe]

Patenting and they secondary. They secondary to the secondary.

[Shelly]

You talk about brother Caleb Downs, huh?

[Joe]

Yeah. Hey, the safety. Yeah, I like him. I like him. I like him a lot.

But I'm telling you, your corners, your conas ain't been good for a minute, Joe.

Just quiet as kelp.

[Shelly]

You don't like bland.

[Joe]

He needs some seasoning. He needs some seasoning. Hey, y' all chat. Y' all know what had been happening to him. Y' all know he got that money. He got that money. Remember he had him five, six, pick sixes. Ocho.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

How does he look since he got that money?

[Shelly]

Yeah, he been hurt, though. He been injured a little bit, huh? Yeah. He gonna come back.

[Joe]

It'll hurt, but fry. You met a man, shook him out. You remember that man? Shook him by the shoes. Haha.

[Ocho]

I'm gonna be in for a rude awakening, boy.

[Joe]

No, no, no.

[Shelly]

You're gonna let him talk about your team like that?

[Ocho]

Now he gonna be in for a rude awakening. We ain't got the damn season. You know me. He already going off.

[Joe]

Joe, Joe, I'm just saying I'm.

What I try to do is that I try to prepare you.

It's like the doctors.

The doctor said, look, just pray and hope.

I don't want to get your hopes too high. Doctors don't ever tell you, oh, this

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What they try to do, they try to.

What they say, oh, the surgery went well.

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[Joe]

But let's see how rehab, let's see how you feel.

Ain't that what they told Joe? What they tell you about your leg? What he tell you? Okay, exactly.

[Ocho]

That's exactly what they tell you. That boy. No boy, he done been under that knife a few times.

[Joe]

Yeah. What that mean?

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Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe]

That mean, hey, you ain't put my leg on backwards, did you? But we gonna see, Joe. We gonna see.

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