Best of NBA News Part 1: Giannis TRADED to Miami Heat + Julius Randle TRADED to Brooklyn Nets + Trae Young signs EXTENSION with Wizards

Summary

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Nightcap – Best of NBA News Part 1: Giannis TRADED to Miami Heat + Julius Randle TRADED to Brooklyn Nets + Trae Young signs EXTENSION with Wizards

Hosts: Shannon “Unc” Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson
Date: June 25, 2026

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Overview

This episode delivers blockbuster NBA reactions as Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson dissect seismic player moves: Giannis Antetokounmpo's stunning trade to the Miami Heat, Julius Randle's shift to the Brooklyn Nets, and Trae Young’s major contract extension with the Washington Wizards. The Nightcap duo provides immediate, unfiltered player and team analysis, sharing locker-room insights, critiquing team strategies, and debating the long-term ripple effects across the league.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Giannis TRADED to the Miami Heat

Segment Start: [04:04]

• The Trade Package:
  Giannis Antetokounmpo and Bobby Portis are headed to Miami in exchange for Tyler Herro, Kale Ware, Jaime Jaquez, three first-round picks, a pick swap, and a second-round pick to Milwaukee.

  “Giannis and Bobby Portis goes to the Heat. Tyler Hero, Kale Ware, Jaime Hawkez. Three first round picks, a pick swap, and a second round pick goes to Milwaukee.” — UNC (Shannon), [04:37]

• Instant Reactions:

  • Ocho boasts about his early prediction and source knowledge:

    “Remember what Bobby said about when I told him Giannis was coming here? And little did he know, he was a part of it.” — Ocho, [05:01]

  • The hosts joke on Miami’s appeal (taxes, weather, “meet me”):

    “Note the taxes, nice weather, he get to meet me.” — Ocho, [06:35]

• Heat's Next Move:

  • Pat Riley’s reputation for pulling off surprises is praised.

    “Pat got one more thing up his sleeve.” — Ocho, [06:45]

  • Speculation on assembling a superteam with LeBron, Bobby Portis, Giannis:

    “I bet you LeBron back to Miami. I bet you do, huh?” — co-host, [08:55]

• Team Construction Questions:

  • How do Giannis and Bam Adebayo fit together? Who runs point?

    “OK, you got two guys that can protect the paint, right? But who’s the point guard?” — UNC (Shannon), [09:34]

• Trade Philosophy & Risks:
  The hosts point out the classic dilemma: trading away too much and winding up “bare,” using the KD/Warriors example as a contrast.

  “When the guy gets there, the cupboard is bare. That’s what happened... just imagine if the Warriors had to trade for Kevin Durant.” — UNC (Shannon), [13:19]

• On Giannis Wanting Out:

  • Defends their reporting by citing Giannis' own statements:

    “When Giannis says he could see himself playing for someone other than Milwaukee out of his own mouth, that's what he said.” — UNC (Shannon), [13:52]

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Trade Rumor Fallout & Media Critique

Segment Start: [14:47]

• Media Double Standards:

  • The hosts vent about fans blasting them for “messy” reporting, while mainstream insiders like Adam Schefter and Shams get a pass.

    “Why is Ocho and Unc being messy? ... When Adam Schefter report the same thing ... you never say Adam Schefter starting anything.” — UNC (Shannon), [18:10–18:59]

• On Being 98% Right:

  • Ocho:

    “I’m right 98% of the time. Anytime I say something...” — Ocho, [18:59]

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Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, and Boston’s Dynamics

Segment Start: [22:17]

• Trade Scenarios:

  • Discussion on whether Boston will break up the Tatum-Brown duo and the persistent rumors surrounding Jaylen Brown.

    “Every trade scenario has always involved Jaylen Brown. Not one scenario has ever had Jayson Tatum's name attached to it.” — UNC (Shannon), [24:29–24:35]

• Who’s Really #1?

  • They reflect on Brown’s huge season in Tatum’s injury absence, yet Tatum’s status remains untouched organizationally and in the public eye.

    “Nothing else Jaylen Brown can do to convince them that he’s a number one option and he’s the equivalent of Jayson Tatum. Absolutely nothing.” — UNC (Shannon), [25:07]

• Jaylen Brown’s Twitch Statement:

  • Referenced as Brown addressing trade rumors:

    “To all the people that doubted me... you’re turning me into a monster.” — cited by UNC (Shannon), [26:28]

• Big Trade Risks:

  • The possibility that Boston could regret breaking up the duo, given Brown’s durability compared to Giannis’ increasing injury history.

    “He’s not better than Giannis, but he’s more durable at this stage of their careers.” — UNC (Shannon, quoting Yahoo), [26:28]

• Fit Issues for Giannis in Boston:

  • Takes on whether Giannis meshes with Boston’s three-heavy offense:

    “You built your team to launch threes... Giannis is not a three point shooter. Giannis is a downhill guy.” — UNC (Shannon), [27:51–28:06]

• Giannis’ Health Concerns:

  • UNC details games missed over the last several seasons as Giannis ages.

    “He missed 19 games at 27. He missed nine games at 28. He missed 15 games at 29, and he missed 46 games at 30.” — UNC (Shannon), [31:03]

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Julius Randle TRADED to the Brooklyn Nets

Segment Start: [37:37]

• The Deal:

  • The Timberwolves trade Julius Randle and #28 pick to the Nets in a three-team deal, creating cap flexibility for Minnesota and sending Nick Claxton to Chicago.

• Randle’s Value Dropped:

  • Hosts note Minnesota “gave the man away,” possibly undervaluing a former All-Star.

    “Man, they literally gave this man away.” — UNC (Shannon), [39:22]
    “He wasn’t that bad. He wasn’t that bad to just let him go like that.” — Ocho, [38:45]

• Life on a Lottery Team:

  • The Nets aren’t a contending team anymore; Randle is now “just collecting a check and playing ball.”

    “When they trade you to the Nets … now I’m just collecting a check.” — Ocho, [40:27]

• Role & System Fit:

  • Discussion on how great players transcend system, but Randle’s reliance on being the 2nd option hurt his standing.

    “Great players can overcome a system. A great play is the system.” — UNC (Shannon), [41:14]

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Trae Young Signs Extension with Wizards & Contract Talk

Segment Start: [43:28]

• Trae’s Bet on Himself Paid Off:

  • Turned down a $49M player option for a 4-year, $212M deal with a player option in year 4.

    “Trey Young intends to sign a four year, 212 million dollar deal to stay with the Washington Wizards.” — UNC (Shannon), [43:27]

• Anthony Davis Contract Debate:

  • Should AD receive a max with health protection clauses? Players' union likely won’t allow it.

    “We’ll give you max dollars, right? And the only way you earn the max dollars that we put in the contract is that you stay healthy and play a certain amount of games each season.” — Ocho, [44:40]
    “Player association ain’t gonna go for that.” — UNC (Shannon), [44:49]

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Rookie Comparisons & Prospects: Dylan Harper, A.J. Dybounza, and Franchise Building

Segment Start: [54:12]

• Dylan Harper Praise:

  • Joe Johnson says Harper has the potential to be a “prime James Harden.”

    “He would average 22, 23 points a game his rookie season if he had the same freedom. Did James play defense?” — UNC (Shannon, quoting Joe Johnson), [54:12]

• Defending Honest Analysis:

  • Hosts clarify they meant this as praise, not an insult:

    “The fact that Joe even think he can be somewhat similar to James Harden … you can’t ask better than that.” — Ocho, [55:36]

• Harden’s Place All-Time:

  • Heated discussion on Harden’s greatness despite defense:

    “He’s a top five two guard. All the two guards. He’s a top five. I like D. Wade, but hey, to each his own.” — UNC (Shannon), [58:16]

• Playing Both Ways is Rare:

  • Not many have been first-team All-NBA and All-Defense together—naming legends like Robinson, Duncan, Kobe, Braun, Jordan, Giannis, Kawhi.

    “I bet you there’s been less than 15.” — UNC (Shannon), [59:47]

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Coaching, Roster Construction, & Young Team Problems

Segment Start: [64:21]

• San Antonio Sp*rs Discussion:

  • Optimism around the young roster’s talent, but youth/inexperience and some coaching/rotation missteps prove costly in the playoffs.

    “They led every single game by double digits and we lost all these games except one. Inexperience really hurt them.” — UNC (Shannon), [65:09]

• On In-Game Adjustments:

  • Praises coaches like Popovich for timeouts and flexibility, citing Mike Brown using creative backcourts to win key matchups.

    “I remember playing, boy, when Pop was coaching... you go on a 4-0 run, he’s calling timeout.” — Sports Analyst, [67:31]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Ocho’s Confidence:

  “Once again, I am right as I am 98% of the time.” — Ocho, [09:55]

• On Fan Critique:

  “Why is it so hard for people to give people credit? Especially our people? Y’ all get Adam Shefter credit like it’s nothing … me and Ocho just a pole hustler trying to grow a channel.” — UNC (Shannon), [20:41]

• On Jaylen Brown’s Frustration:

  “All I do is play. I helped you win a championship. I’m finals MVP ... in every scenario ... I’m the guy that you’re going to get rid of.” — UNC (Shannon), [30:05]

• On Randle’s Situation:

  “He needed to be the second best player night in and night out. ... McDaniels passing. We saw it right before our eyes.” — UNC (Shannon), [41:25–41:37]

• On Harper’s Upside:

  “He’s special, bro. ... Having played the game … given the opportunity, he could be [like] Harden.” — Co-hosts, [56:18, 63:11]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Giannis to Miami: [04:04] – [14:40]
• Media/Fan Reaction to Rumors: [14:47] – [22:16]
• Jaylen Brown & Celtics Dilemma: [22:17] – [33:10]
• Julius Randle Trade Breakdown: [37:37] – [43:20]
• Trae Young, AD, Contract Talk: [43:28] – [46:54]
• Rookie Prospects, Harper & Harden: [54:12] – [63:40]
• Coaching, Young Teams, Playoff Losses: [64:21] – [68:00]

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Tone & Style

The episode is loose, conversational, and playful—true to Sharpe and Johnson’s style—yet loaded with direct player insight and pointed basketball analysis. The banter often blurs into locker-room recollection and bravado, but the duo never shies from hot takes, “insider” commentary, and calling out both players and the media establishment.

Transcript

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Miami.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Giannis traded in Miami for that. For that package.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Wow.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

I told. What? I told you.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

I gotta get BP back on here.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

I can't wait till y' all say. I can't wait till y'. All.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Hey, Ojo. We gotta get BP back on here.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Giannis. So, Chad, did you hear that?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Hey, I want y' all to say,

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

traded to the Miami Heat, Giannis and Bobby Porters goes to the Heat. Tyler Hero, Kale Ware, Jaime Hawkez. Three first round picks, a pig swap, and a second round pick goes to Milwaukee.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Hold on. Oh, so Bobby. Bobby came to Miami, too?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Yeah, that's why I said we got to get BP back on here, man.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

I told. I. I told. Remember what Bobby said about when I told him Giannis was coming here?

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Yeah. Yeah.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

And little did he know, he was a part of it.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Huh.

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[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

The Milwaukee Bucks are trading franchise icon Giannis Antetokounmpo and Bobby Portis to the Miami Heat. Tyler Hero, Kale Ware, Jaime Hawkez. I can't even pronounce this other guy's name, so I'm not going to butcher it. Three first round picks, including number 13. One pick swap and a second rounder. Sources tell ESPN.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Well, there you go.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Somebody says Mitchell Robinson going to the Bulls. Also, they are going to draft Acuff, Trey Giddy. We should make the playoffs. This is why. This is this. We can buy what we want and compete fast. But you just. I. I guess, I mean, you just traded for Claxton.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Hey, yeah, I'm still looking to see where that's at.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Giannis. Yeah, the Sean's. Sean's reported it 58 seconds ago. Y' all is gonna like that, that new deal. Hey, note the taxes, nice weather, he

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

gay, he get to meet me.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Yeah.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

So now, okay, we got one big domino fall. Okay, where does Ja go?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Hey, didn't I tell you? I say Pat got one more thing up his sleeve.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

He ain't got nothing to offer. You would say trading.

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No.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Okay, he did.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Hey, but I just. It's still something up his sleeve. Now give. Give him.

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Wow.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Giannis is gone. Get the shiesty. Somebody say jock to Orlando. Ocho can't believe Jalen Brown's Finals MVP got drafted before Tatum. Top three pick in 2016 get traded over blowing a 31 lead or over that podcast Cold world.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

He. Look, I think the thing is it.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Considering there's so much smoke, is it a situation, Ocho, where you almost damn

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

near like have to trade JB now, or you cool bringing him back because he already know how y' all feel about it? Because every time a trade scenario comes

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

up with his name, well, he. He's the only person of value to a value to talk about. Who else we gonna talk about trading? We ain't gonna talk about nobody else. But if. If I was. I mean, they're not gonna let him go. They understand how important he is. And obviously, even with JT being a year removed from that Achilles tear, him still having, you know, he was efficient. He was good during his time. You don't want him to have to leave that team again by himself. No, no, they not let. They not. They're not letting him go nowhere.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

So you think he stays at least one more year?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah, absolutely. At least one more. At least one more.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Who said that that's what they want? I. I don't know. I don't see that. LeBron and Pat after that man done took his cookies.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Oh, back. Oh, back. Back to back. Back to. Oh, I like that. Hey, I like that.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

I bet you LeBron back to Miami. I bet you do, huh?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

With Bobby P. And Giannis. Hold on, Let me text LeBron. Hold on, hold on. Let me text LeBron.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

That bad.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Busy.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

He said he ain't fooling with you. I need to invite Rich Paul on here one night.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tell him, boy. Come on.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

No, who the point guard?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

I mean, who's the.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

I mean, yeah, Giannis and Bam. Okay, you got two guys that can protect the paint, right? But who's the point guard?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

LeBron.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

So the question is, what y' all do? Are y' all bringing back Norman Powell?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Hey, Pat got some up his sleeve. I. I don't. I don't want to disclose any more information. You know, I've already done more than I should, and once again, I am right as I am 98 of the time. I'm just. I'm gonna just leave it at that. Mickey Harrison and Pat Riley have some up their sleeve, and we're gonna see if it works.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

According to Shams, Giannis is expected to be traded before the start of the NBA draft Tuesday with the Celtics and he emerging as finalists to land the buck Superstar.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

You don't say.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Not expected.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Third team in the Giannis trade, according to a source and are focused solely on negotiating with the Celtics and the Heat. Sources, excuse me. Told Shams that if traded the two Milwaukee for, Giannis Brown would remain with the Bucks. Ocho, the more that ain't gonna happen if you're the betting man, Giannis ends up in Miami, or does he end up in Boston?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Right? If you're a bad man. I didn't told y' all the past six months where he was going. I don't know how long I've been saying it. You know, I ain't gonna tell you who my source is, but again, everything I say, listen, I might tell a joke or two, but I ain't gonna lie to you, right? I said we was going a long time ago. You know, y' all laughed it off. Y' all ain't believe me, but I told you he was down here looking for houses.

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[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Now it comes down to it, hey, listen, Giannis Tatum and Jaylen Brown, that ain't happening. We know that's not happening. No, he gonna be in Miami. You know, Pat Riley got something else on his sleeve. Obviously, when Giannis get here, he got one more movie trying to make. We'll see if that comes into fruition so we can compete in the East. We don't want to be decoration, we want to be playing. You know, not in the playing, but being. Being a seed.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Clearly, Boston have the most assets. You get Tyler Hero, you get Jaime Hawkez, you get KO Ware and you got, if I'm not mistaken, if I was reading it correctly, you get three first round picks and you get some pick swaps.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yes, sir.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Now on the flip side, you get Jalen Brown, you get two late round draft pick. Two for late first round draft picks. I don't know the guy are you putting up here? Okay. The Miami Heat would send Tyler Hero, Jaime Highcast, Kale Ware, Nicola Nicola Hobbit, pick 13, two future first round picks. Boston would send Jalen Brown, Hugo Gonzalez, pick 27 and a future first round pick. Now the question is, do you trust your scouting department? Do you trust your drafting department? Because you got a team that can go play right now with Hero, Hawk heads, Ware, Havoc. Considering what you still have there, Jaylen Brown is a number one option. He's gonna sell tickets.

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So.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

But it seems to me they won't draft capital. Remember, they bought Dame Lillard out of his deal.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

They still owed him like 100 something million. Damn.

So.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

But if you give up all that, if you the Heat, bam. And Giannis ain't winning no championship, he

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

got one more trick up they sleeve, huh? I'm gonna see. I'm see if it work.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

I sure hope so, because this happens every time, Ocho, is that you give up all your assets.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yes, sir.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

And when the guy get there, the cupboard is bare. That's what happened. See, just imagine if the warriors had to trade for Kevin Durant. Now you can't keep all those pieces.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Because he's a free agent and you didn't have to give up anything.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Anything. Yeah. Made it easy.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Made it easy. When they mad enough, you see the chat. They mad enough, y' all keep. It's always.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

It's always us.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

When Giannis says he could see himself

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

playing for someone other than Milwaukee out of his own mouth, that's what he said. I didn't say that. Joe didn't say that. You didn't say that.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

The media didn't say that.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Giannis said he could see himself playing for someone other than the Bucks.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

I be a damn if they ain't get mad at us, the media. Y' all keep bringing it up. Y' all keep bringing it up.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

It should have gave you. It should have gave you pause for

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

cause when he didn't Sign the extension. In year five, he didn't mention nothing about playing somebody else. In year eight, he didn't mention about, say, playing somewhere else.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

And year 10, now all of a

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

sudden, he mentions he could the possibility of playing elsewhere.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

And he didn't sign the extension that would have kept him there.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

They thinking what they hard, huh? They thinking what they hard. Not thinking what they mind. That's all.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Now, don't be mad. Ain't no messy.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

No, y' all messy. Y' all get mad at us.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

All we do is report.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

How do we have something report on if there's nothing? Y' all get mad every time. When we ocho and I told you something was brewing in Philly, y' all got mad.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

How you know you ain't in the locker room.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

All you doing is tabloid. Do y' all think y' all really

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

be thinking people nightly?

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

I'm not saying they don't.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

But 98% of the time, the sources.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

The sources is the head coach, the general manager, the owner, the player personnel, the scouting department. That's the source. And guess what? In a sprinkling of players in there.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah, shoot. I've been getting cussed out all day on Twitter. Talk about the Cleveland Browns and Deshaun Watson, you know, hey, they cussing me out, talking about I don't know what I'm talking about. Oh, and Jerry Judy, a source. I say, hey, Unc, this had nothing to do with Jerry Judy. He talking about, oh, we took a picture a few days ago, and all of a sudden, now I'm saying what I'm saying. No, for one, Jerry Judy's from Miami.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Right.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

We grew up together. I'm just a little bit older. I mean, you would hope people understand that. But no, I'm using common sense and logic. The money's gonna play. There's nothing wrong with Shadur. I love Shadur. I've said it countless times. He played well. He played well last year, you know, had some ups and downs. He has some growing pains. Yes. But if desean Watson is healthy, he's going to be the starter whether you like it or not. Because of the money.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Yep.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

It's common sense. If you understand the game, that's it. That's not a source. That's me having common sense in how the game goes.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

So in other words, they mad at the messengers.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Cause when Adam sheep to say that, y' all don't say Adam shept to be a messy. When Sean say that, y' all don't say Sean's being messy.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Right?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

When wo used to break story after story after story after story, Y' all

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

didn't say woe to making it up.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

So why Ocho and I got to

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

be making it up?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

And y' all come to the conclusion, well, Jared, you. You took a picture. Why does it matter how we got our information? We telling you something you didn't know, and then you turn around, oh, wait, we all knew that. No, you didn't. Cause you argue being a Ocho down, but y' all knew it now. But I'm just saying, why is. Why is it Woj? Why is it Jay Glazier?

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Why isn't Shams?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Why is it all those other people that give y' all inside information that they got from sources? Why aren't they messy? I've never heard. And I. I follow Shefter. I've known Shepton longer than anybody, anybody that espn. Shefter and I used to go to dinner his mom and dad used to go to. Come to town. We would go to an Italian restaurant called Carmines. Ask him. He got to Denver the same time I got to Denver. I've looked up on his comments. Not one time have y' all ever said the man was messy. I look up on the. Sean's comments, never. You say messi. I look up on the. So I just need y' all to tell me why. When we give you information from a player standpoint, and we can see things that you can't, we can understand things that you can't.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Why is Ocho and Unk being messy?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Just answer me that. Go ahead, chat.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Take off.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

They, they, they, they.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

They don't crash out. I'm asking y' all a simple question. Don't know. Crash out.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Answer the question.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

A.

[Podcast Host (My Favorite Murder)]

No.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

They got.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

They got No, I don't want to relax. I'm fine. I've been asleep all day. You see that? You want your. Instead of answering the question, crash out. Relax. No, tell me why Ocho and I are messy. Adam Schefter report the same thing. Adam Schefter said things were going on in the locker room when Ocho and I tried to tell you. You just being messy. Y' all start. Y' all will never say Adam Schefter starting anything. Y' all never say Sean starting anything.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

I don't nobody listen to me because I, I, I'm. I play so much. I ain't been. I'm right 98% of the time. I'm. I'm right 98 percent of the time. Anytime I say something,

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

I don't you know what, Ocho? I don't say anything.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Because if I were to say stuff,

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

y' all gonna try to pinpoint who I got it from, right? So to keep everybody safe, I don't say nothing. I just let it play out. Let it play out. Y' all find out in time. It's like. It's like when the Levy bus, man, why don't you tell me it's gonna flood?

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Y' all gonna find out sooner or later.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah,

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

I know a lot.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

That ain't my job.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

I will let it play out because all you gonna do is tell me

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

I don't know what I'm talking about.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

That's all you gonna do. Tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. We've been so. I was on this O.J. aJ Brown since October. And I say the reason why you

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

don't do that, I say, because you

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

have a game if you're not careful.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

And when they come to your O, you gonna drop.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

You don't make no plays, they gonna

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

let you have it.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

And I be damn. The Rams game, the playoffs, O. Joe, it came full. It came full circle.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yes, sir.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

There's a lot of things I see go y'.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

All.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Y' all forget that. A lot of these coaches, a lot of these general managers, I know them.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

You ain't get it from me.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Okay? Call me what you want to, but just call. Be correct, say what you want. Just say I'm correct. That's why. Why is it so. Why is it so hard for people

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

to give people credit?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Especially our people? Y' all get Adam Shefter. Y' all get Adam Shelter credit like it's nothing. Paul being Ocho, we just. Me and Ocho just a pole hustler trying to grow a channel.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

We can't get no credit, probably.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

You know, he got.

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[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

He got that big. That big entity behind him.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

You know, it ain't damn the entity. Ocho, we've been telling. We. Look here, we've been. We played the game.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yes, sir.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

We telling you what we see. We telling you the interactions that's taking place. Having been a receiver, having been a tight end, having dealt with the quarterback. Tell you something, all the years experience that we got between us, we got 50 years of playing football.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Organized football. But now we don't know what we talking about.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

So I'm crashing. And guess what?

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Y' all listen to me.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Crash out. I love it all today. All the days y' all call it, y' all still. Y' all I just don't. I say what day of me and Ocho can say something. Yeah. This sure did such and such. Hold on, man. Ocho said that? No, we don't get it. You ain't got it yet? Nope. No. Now you get it. Now you. Oh, now they get it.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Now, the Boston Celtic situation.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

A Red Bull, please.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Oo, yeah. They got mad at us. The Boston Celtics situation with Jalen, with

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

JB and jt Y' all trying to break them up.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Y' all trying to break them up. You can't break up something that doesn't want to be broken up. Yeah.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Talk to the Boston Celtics.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

JB sees himself as a number one.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Yeah.

The Celtics sees him.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Jayson Tatum as the number one.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

He was never going to be seen in the eyes that we see him

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

now as long as Jason Tatum was there. What happened? Jason Tatum, unfortunately got injured. Jaylen Brown got an opportunity to show you he was a number one.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Number one.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Because even when Jay. When Jason.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

When J.T.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

j.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Excuse me. When JB won Eastern Conference Finals MVP, the. The Larry Bird Award, when he won

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Finals MVP, what did everybody say? That's because everybody geared their defense to stop Jason Tatum. You still wouldn't get a man the credit, even though he had the hardware on his mantle. You tried to make a reason or an excuse why he got it.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Okay, so now Jason Tatum is injured. He averages a career high. He gets his team to the number two seed.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Hey, you know what's funny? That's one of those situations is there's really nothing that Jaylen Brown could have done to change not only the eyes of the people, but the people in the organization that felt Jason Tatum was the number one.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

That is the thing, Ocho. It's how they view them in the organization.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah. Yeah. You can't change their mind in the organization, even based on what you did when he was hurt, they still feel the same way. Or trade. There would be no trade rumors with your name in it.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Thank you.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

You've never tell me the time that

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

you've ever heard a trade scenario when Jayson Tatum was involved.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Every trade scenario has always involved Jaylen Brown.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Yeah. Not one scenario has ever had Jayson Tatum name attached to it.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

And you know what? And I'm curious. I wonder who people think is a better player out of the two now. Based on what? Jalen Brown.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

They still believe in Jason Tatum.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

See, there's nothing Jalen Brown could do to change that.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Nothing. Even after he averaged 28.7?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Even after he got you the number two. Seed, after you sold off all the pieces that you had, you let Holiday

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

go, you let Al Horford go. You, you moved on from Christoph Brzinga. There's nothing, nothing else Jaylen Brown can do to convince them that he's a number one option and he's the equivalent of Jason Tatum. Absolutely nothing.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

That's crazy.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

And you hear him speaking out a little more.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

He knows.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

He sees the writing on the Raw.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah, absolutely.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

He knew this all along, where this was coming from.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

He tried to play it off.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Hey, look, I ain't got no problem. I don't know their relationship, don't particularly care. I'm here, I'm here to win games. I ain't here to be nobody's friend. If I have, if I, if I, if I develop friends in the process of winning, I'm good with that, Ocho.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

But if I don't, the hell with you.

[Skeptical News Consumer]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

And, you know, the thing is, is they've already won. They've already won, they ring, they've already gotten their trophy, so that, that, that's set in stone. Now if, if Jalen Brown is to go somewhere, I think, I think they should run it back. I, I don't see him actually being traded. I, I, I don't know. Basketball is weird, the way they conduct themselves, especially owners. See management, the players got fu money when they want to leave, it's time to go.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Jaylen Brown said on, on his Twitch stream today as a Celtics are active in trade negotiation with for Giannis. To all the people that doubted me, that wanted me to do this or wanted me traded, you're turning me into a monster. The Yahoo writer reported or tweeted Damien Peters. It might be an unpopular opinion, but I think the Celtics will regret trading Jaylen Brown. He's not better than Giannis, but he's more doable at this stage of their careers. He's coming off his best individual season of his career, and he's already won a ring alongside Tatum. Breaking up a championship duo in this fashion is a huge, huge gamble.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

And it absolutely is, because if you don't win a championship, I don't care the numbers he put up, if you don't win a championship, people gonna say you, you effed it up.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah. I, I, I, I don't think he's moving. I, I don't think he's moving. I, I'm not sure what issues, if there are any issues between J. J.T. but, but moving those two, you know, it just doesn't make any sense. And Giannis completely Different type of player. I'm not sure if it affects, you know, Jayson Tatum in any kind of way with the style of play with, you know, with Giannis always happened to have the ball in his hands. I'm not sure if it affects things there in the, in the way they play, but it just wouldn't make any sense.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

My concern though, Ojo, is that how you built your team, you built your team to launch threes.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

You look at the Celtics, that's what they do, they launch threes.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah. Would they change that for one person?

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Giannis gonna have to get his touches. Giannis is not a three point shooter. Giannis is a downhill guy.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah,

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

they're gonna need a point guard. I like Peyton Pritchett, but I mean, you're saying, you're telling me Peyton Pritchard can be your every, your, your starting point guard and give you play you 35 minutes a night, or is he better in a role?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Right.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

We about to find out. Are you going to be able to keep a white? Two guys that I know can play together, Cuz guess what? I've seen them play together for the last seven, eight years versus bringing a guy in. Yes, he's phenomenal. 30 and 14.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Damn.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

That's his average the last four or five years. That's what Giannis is average, shooting 55, 56 from the floor. The problem is every year he's getting dinged.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

30 and 14, man. 30 and 14. You can have an injury or two, man, go ahead. Because I know what I get when you're healthy.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

But guess what?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Hey, hold on. You say you're only downhill too. He got a nice little midi too now. I didn't see him, you know, he didn't work on that little minute.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

It ain't consistent on Joe.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

You don't like it?

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Nope, it's not consistent.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

I can't wait till Yanis get here, man. I can say I told you and they, and they.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

And you see, Boston knows how to defend and they build a wall. They just keep him out of the paint.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Paint.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Yeah, I can. I live with him making three.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

You gonna make threes?

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

I don't believe you can make enough threes to beat me. I don't believe you can make enough midis to beat me.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

To be.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Yeah, I'm just not gonna let your ass get to the rim. But, and I'm sure JB will probably never admit it, but he get tired of hearing a little Joe.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

You think so?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

I'm getting tired of hear all you talking, all you talk about Is all

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

I do is play. Oh, all I do is play. I helped you win a championship. I'm finals mvp, Eastern Conference. I'm Eastern Conference mvp. And all you do, in every scenario, when you feel you can improve the team, I'm the guy that you're going to get rid of to improve the team.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

I mean, JT's a golden goose song. He is nothing you can do. Even. The funny thing about it is your name is in rumors, and JT is coming off an Achilles tear.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Even what you did last season. So that just. I mean.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

What are y' all talking about? Yanis hadn't been hurt in four years.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Did y' all just miss time this year?

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

What did I miss?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Give me.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Give me the last four years of Yanni's history.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

He was hurt this year, remember?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Yeah, yeah, I know.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

But.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

But maybe. Maybe. Maybe my. Maybe my.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Maybe my ig. Maybe my TV was. Because sometime my cable go out. So Giannis hadn't been hurt in the last four years. He played 36 games this year. What about the year before? He played 67, so he missed 15. What about next year? 73 plays. Ms. 9. 63. So he missed 19. 9, 15. And 42. 46. Excuse me, 46. Okay, now, how old is Giannis now? It's got to be, like, 13 years, so he's got to be at least 31. 32. Okay, 31. When would be 32? Okay, so he's 31. So he missed 19 games at 27. He missed nine games at 28. He missed 15 games at 29, and he missed 46 games at 30.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Hey, number. Keep going higher and higher, huh?

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

You know, you get a once because he plays so damn hard. Yeah, he plays extremely, extremely hard.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

You're not going to complain about his effort?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Oh, no, he gonna.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Some guys like, well, damn, son, I

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

wish you play hard. You're never going to complain about Giannis's effort, right? But for me, just looking. Looking at JT's game, looking at Giannis's game, JT and JB fit better together. To me now, they could prove me wrong.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

No, I don't think they're going to prove you wrong. I think you said it right.

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[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

I mean, you said it right. That's why he's going to be here. He's going to be better suited down here in Miami. It just doesn't make any sense for a team that you just said is constructed to do what? Jack up threes yet.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

But when you've done that, how do you.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

How do you ocho how do you

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

like recalibrate and says, you know what? We're not going to jack up 40, 45 threes a night. We're gonna take that down to mid-20s, maybe 30. The whole thing is the swing. Swing three.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Transition three.

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[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

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[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

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[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Goodbye game.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Ocho. We got breaking news.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Minnesota is sending Julius Randle and the number 28 picks in the NBA Dream Draft in a three team trade that

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

says Nick Claxton to Chicago.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

The Timberwolves will acquire Brooklyn's number 33 pick for Randall and number 28. The T Wolves now have flexibility to sign a Yo Dosamu and have an available $15 million non tax mid level and a 15.5.5 million biannual exception. Minnesota will all also create a $33.3 million trade exception. So, in other words, Ocho.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yes.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

They gave this man away. Yeah, they gave.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

They. They. They were so. Listen, Chad, do y' all realize what they did? Julius Randall is a former All Star.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yes.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

They say, you know what?

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Here we get y' all, Julius Random.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

What? Y'. All. Y' all got some pre wrapped tape Gatorade. You remember the Gatorade Ocho used to put in the bag? Used to pour in the bag and pour the water in the stove.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah. And make the powder and mix it up. Yeah. Hey, Unc, I got a question.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Yes.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

He wasn't that bad. He wasn't that bad to just let him go like that.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

He was good when they needed him to be good. And far too many times, that's what.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Because at the end of the day,

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Ocho, yes, you make a king's ransom in the regular season, but in the post season, they needed him to show up. They needed somebody. And guess what? McDaniels had passed him as being the second best player. That's not an option.

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[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

So he made it easy for him to make that decision, huh?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Yes.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Man, that's messed up, boy.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Man, they literally gave this man away.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Hold on.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Let me tell him. The Timberwolves would acquire Brooker's number 33 pick for Randall and 28. So hold on.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

They say we take number 33. We'll get y' all Julius Rather and our 28 pick.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Damn. Now watching. Now watch he go. He went to the Bulls, huh?

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

No, he went to the Nets. Nick Claxton goes to the Bulls.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Oh, to the Bulls. Okay.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Yes.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Let me see. So we over there with the Nets. Who over there? Who over there in Brooklyn with.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Nobody. Michael Porter Jr. Is the only one that I really. That I know of.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

I don't really know anybody else on the Nets, Chad. Y'.

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[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

I mean, that's not even fair. So he done went somewhere where they not. He's not even on the contender anymore

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

because that's what they're telling me. Remember, they thought he was the piece to a contender.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Remember when the Knicks got him? Remember when the T. Wolves got him?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

He is supposed to be a missing

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

piece to a contender when they trade

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

you to the Nets.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

I mean, I don't mean it in no disrespect, but it's like, okay, now I'm just collecting a check and playing ball. I want to compete for a ring. I want to compete for a championship, too.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Yeah, you had that opportunities.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

You had the opportunity.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

You were with the Knicks and then they moved you.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

They thought of me.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

And the mere fact that Minnesota thought they would get better by trading Cat versus for Drew Randall.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Hey, I don't. That's tough. Hey, systems matter like you say all the time.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Great players overcome system. Kobe's gonna be Kobe in any system. LeBron will be LeBron. Jordan will be the Jordan. The great players will be great in any system.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Right.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

The great players can overcome a system. A great play is the system.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Instead of being that bull in the china shop more times than offer, he jacking up threes.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

He needed to be the second best

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

player night in and night out.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

He needed to be the second best player.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

And we saw, we saw right before

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

our eyes, McDaniels passing.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

We saw it.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Disabled look better consistently than Julius Randall.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Yeah, Shannon came off the bench and

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

looked better than Randall. I can't, I can't pay you that kind of money, Ocho. And, and, and, and, and have guys coming off the bench are playing better than you.

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I can't.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Especially in those big moments, especially in those big games. Especially in the guy in the playoffs.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

They gave.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

At least, at least when he was

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

on the Knicks, they went to the playoffs. And then you go to Minnesota like, okay, I got, look at that. I'm going, I'm going to join, I'm going to join Ant man. I'm going to join Rudy Gobert. You know, hey, we got a nice little squad. We'll continue. You go to the Nets, Ocho. You not going nowhere.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

You can't, you can't even. Hey, you can't. When your family ask you off camera,

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

man, how y' all looking? You can't even lie.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Oh, you can't lie.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Hey, get your money. How many years you got still in the contract? You got one year left or two? Oh, he picking that up. He got two years. What's his player option? Yeah, he picking that up.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Wait, how much is it?

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

35.8.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

What if he don't pick it up? What happens?

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

He become a free agent and then he hopes somebody gives somebody give them a long term deal for more than what he. For more than that. One year.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

So you think, you think it's a possibility? Someone take a chance on him?

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Anything possible?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

I.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

It's hard for you to. It's hard for me to read the NBA, right? What they do. Let's talk about it. According to Sean's, Trey Young intend to sign a four year, 212 million dollar deal to stay with the Washington Wizards with a player option in year four. Remember, he turned down the 49 million player option for the 2627 season, betting on himself to secure a longer term deal. And today, Ocho, that paid off. According to Jake Fisher, Anthony Davis and his camp have been seeking a max extension and plausible to consider him a potential trade candidate out of Washington. You ask, man, why would Trey decline

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

a $50 million deal?

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Okay, so I can get a four

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

year deal for 212.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah, I just asked that yesterday too. That's crazy. That's crazy. It came to fruition. Now what about Anthony Davis now how is he? Has he asking or requesting anything long term? With his history and being, always being heard, Guess what?

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Because they don't make very many 16 guys that can give you 20 and 12 and three blocks a game. Shoot, 50% can anchor your defense.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Right. I think they should put something in the contract though. We'll give you.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Never let you do it.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Hey, we'll give you max dollars, right? And the only way you earn the max dollars that we put in the contract is that you stay healthy and play a certain amount of games each season.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Player association ain't gonna go for that. Now you see kind of some of the, the situation that they put in Zion contract, body fat got to be a certain level, it's got to be under a certain weight, things like that.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Now

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

you want this deal,

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

you ain't got to sign it.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

But who's gonna run the risk?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Yeah, I put that in there.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Somebody gonna give you $150 million. And they say, well, Ocho, we need you on time. Well, you gonna sign that deal?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

And then you take, you know what? Hey, I'm gonna take that.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

I take a late for you a couple of times, but I'm gonna get this money. You not gonna be so bullheaded like,

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

man, I ain't signing that. That's a bad deal. Ain't nobody else gotta sign that.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

So that and, and from what they're

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

talking about, Anthony Davis gonna probably get it and become a trade candidate.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah, I mean, he should get humped. Now he, well, he that boy. Now I, I even, even I understand that when he playing and we on the court, I understand how good he is on both ends of the court. But I mean, my goodness, Chat. I mean, you know, am I wrong if I was hurt all the time? Who they. I heard the nickname street clothes. Who they call street clothes?

[Podcast Host (My Favorite Murder)]

Huh?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah, you know, so, I mean, listen, I'm just saying, I'm just saying maybe, you know, the NBA team could protect themselves a little bit, you know, throw a little language in there like listen man, if you can't give us this amount of gain, you know we're gonna take, we gonna take a little, little piece of.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

That piece is a insurance policy like a Lords of London. If somebody suffers a career ending injury cause that money is guaranteed, they get their money back. That's basically what they have. Ocho. Yeah, but like you said because of, of his. Cause they know he's, he's 20 plus points, double digit rebounds, he shoots a high percentage, he's got a mid range, he got post the ball, he can shoot the three. Sometimes I think he falls in love with three a little bit too much. He can anchor your defense. Oh, he's phenomenal when he plays.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

He nice when he plays.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

But Trey, you know it's going to be very interesting because now you hear more. All of a sudden Peterson has jumped back into the mix.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Everybody.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

He has so much upside, so much upside that you're willing to take the risk on some of the things that we saw in college right now with Trey back. But I think the most part, most guys, with the exception, with the exception of Cam Boozer, both guys need the ball.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Debonza had the ball, Peterson might have,

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Peterson might have, didn't have the ball in his hands as much as the bonza.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Right.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Obviously, you know, trade needs the ball. So it's going to be interesting to see how they do this.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Washington has the number one pick. Huh?

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Washington has the number one pick. Utah has the number two pick.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

And then that, that, that would probably be why, based on what they were able to do in college, if the Bonds always had the ball in his hands, I mean, I would think his better destination would be Utah where he could be on a team where he could have the ball in his hands. If Peter's going to show you, I could listen, I could play off the ball, I could play without the ball.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

All things being equal, everybody wants to be the first pick. Now being the first pick doesn't land me in my ideal spot.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Right.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Maybe it's a situation. Remember Chris Weber went number one overall and they ended up trading him for Penny Hardaway. Guys like, look, you can trade me wherever. I just want that attached out of the number one overall draft pick. Trade me wherever.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Right?

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

But just give me that, let me have that. And I think I, I think AJ debonzo would love to be the number one overall draft pick. And then they make a trade them and Washington work out something where him but I just think how tall is Peterson? Because that is a really small backcourt with him and Trey Young in. Okay, still small.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

How tall he is, huh?

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Six, four. Six four. But you know Trey six foot.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

We being nice. And look what happened.

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[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Well, he go. I mean he. I mean now I ain't going by Wikipedia because you said your own Wikipedia numbers. What did they measure at the NBA combine? Okay, six, four and a half. That's what he is.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Oh, he's six four?

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Yes, because they measure. Because you know, they measure you in your socks.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

I guess.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

So he's six four and a half. Cause you know at the NFL combat they make you put your heels together

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

and lift your toes.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Cause they don't want you to get no arch. Now they say, you know What? He's probably 6 5. Cause he gonna have on sneakers. So we gonna go and give him that half inch. So he's six. NBA champion Ron Harper Father Dylan Harper completely shut down the widely circulated Unplus nicotine pouches.

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[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Goodbye. Latest reports of rumors regarding Dylan's camp demanding a starting spot. Stop it. Fake news. You don't want to demand a spot. You want to earn a spot. Ron also report reposted us. Joe Johnson says Dylan Harper has a prime. Has the opportunity to be a prime James Harden potential. He would average 22, 23 points a game his rookie season if he had the same freedom. Did James play defense?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Nah, not. Not like Harper, bro.

But oh, Harper should hope that when his son career is over he's a top 75 player.

Yeah.

We weren't trying to be dismissive. You was praising him. You see something in this kid that he could say, you know what he has the ability to be offensively what James Harden was. We were praising him. We wouldn't shoot him down. We didn't say oh we saying he should be in the starting lineup. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that but see when you just. When you just listen to clips and not listen to the meat of what you and I was discussing.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Oh, Joe, right.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Yeah.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

This is what you get.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Yeah. It's part.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Nobody was trying to shoot your son down.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

We was praising your son. We said he was the. He was the second best on some nights. The best player on the Spurs.

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I guess you didn't hear that part.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Go ahead, Joe.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

He probably, he probably. He probably didn't. The fact that Joe even think he can be somewhat similar to James Harden if he had the green light to shoot when he want to and he can play defense the way he does. Come on now, you can't, you can't ask better than that.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Hey, hey, hey, look. Despite what his pops say that his son. He's special. He's special, bro.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

We were trying to.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

We were trying to. We thought we did a good job of conveying. You did. Having played the game. Having looked at James Harden game. They're both lefties.

Yeah.

Harper already has an NBA body. Harden had to grow into his body. Look at Harden as a rookie and look at hard now look at Dylan Harper. That is a grown man's body.

Yeah.

Given the same opportunities to have a green light which is going to be

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

highly unlikely because he's playing with Wimby.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Yeah.

But that situation, we're saying he, Joe was saying he, he has the ability to be as special as Harden. For you to say that, knowing what Harden is, no matter he might not play no defense. He's one of the great offensive guys

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

in the history of the NBA.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Yes, sir.

He's an mvp. He's led the league in scoring.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

He's led the league in assists. He's a top 75 player.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Yeah.

And he made it seem like we say he should be a role player. We're saying that he should start.

Yeah. Ouch. Hey, hey. Sky's the limit for that young kid, bro. You know, he just got to keep putting the work in. And he'll look bigger than James Harden, Uncle Ocho.

Yes.

Yeah. Like you, you, you. If you watch him, the way he maneuvers around the court.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

And when he does get in the

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

paint, bro, it's like he big boy.

He.

He damn near play like he does.

He play through contact. That's my hard. Harden is slippery. Harden is trying to get on edges.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

No, he trying to play through you.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Yeah, he can get on the edge.

There you go.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

But you look at him. He tried to dunk on folks.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He ain't playing. He ain't playing. But he got that. He got that same bag that I think James Harden has. And maybe it is because they both lefties got nice smooth jump shots. His potential is through the roof, bro.

But. But I'm just trying to figure out.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

So because we say he could be James Harden, we're talking about. And you talking about the James Harden play defense. No, but he's 1112 time NBA All Star. He's an all NBA player. He's a top 75 player in the history of the game.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Yeah,

don't.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Don't Listen. James Harden is not a defensive guy. But don't demean the guy.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Now, I agree.

He's a top. Top 75. He's a top five two guard. All the two guards. He's a top five. Now, I don't think anybody's gonna put him over Kobe and Jordan. Now, there's been some debate about him and D. Wade. Me personally, I like D. Wade. But hey, to each his own. Some people go like James Harden, offensive game is so great.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

I can't have him no lower than third.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Yeah, okay, fine.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

But man, y' all gotta stop this notion, man.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Y' all make it seem like every player in the league played lockdown defense

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

like Kobe and Jordan.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

They did.

[Podcast Host (My Favorite Murder)]

Sure.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

It's as small as a select few, especially in today's game.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

It is, bro. It is. It ain't but a couple guys who willing to do that dirty work because everybody wants to, you know, they want to shoot the threes. They want. They want to score the 25, 30 points a night, don't. It ain't a lot of cats won't do that damn dirty work.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

How many guys in the history of the game has been first team all NBA, NBA and all NBA defense?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

How many guys in the same season?

It ain't many, boy.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

It's a few, mind you.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

1. Robinson, Duncan, Kobe, Braun, Jordan. How many?

It ain't been.

How many first team.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

All NBA players and all defensive players

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

on the first team in the same season. Giannis, Kawhi.

[NBC News Anchor]

Yeah.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

I bet you they've been less than 15.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Oh, yeah.

All right.

Cause I bet. I bet Scottie Pippen. I just don't think offensively he probably was first team, but defensively, you know, he always made the Probably.

Probably. I think he made it maybe twice. I know the year that Jordan retired,

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

you remember the first year, and he

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

almost got him there.

Yeah. Yeah.

But it's hard when he played. You got. You got Barkley, you got Malone. I mean, they battling it out damn near every year. And then you get kg, you get Dirk.

Yep, Yep.

So it was. It wasn't. It wasn't no easy. It wasn't no easy fix. And there's only five spots on both.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Yeah, Right.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

So there's not a whole lot of

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

guys that can say, you know what? I locked it down on both ends on a nightly basis, offense and defense. But, son, I.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Look, I ain't got no problem.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

I believe every man should praise his son, but I believe you can praise your son. James Harden ain't no. You can say he didn't play no defense, but he's one of the greatest offensive players we've ever seen.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Officer.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Yeah. Old Ron Harper here, he. Anytime somebody say something about his son, he come at a man. He.

But even when. Even. Even when somebody tried to praise his

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

son, he's still trying to come at him.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

You know, it's so funny, man. All this time, man, I ain't even know that was Mr. Harper.

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[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Nah. Because we never talked about it. We just talk about Dylan Harper. We never. We never talked about, you know, it being Ron Hopper's son. We ain't. We never say nothing like that.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Oh, he's a, either.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

As soon as you say

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

offensively, he's a. He's a. He's a. He's a good defensive player now.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Bronson average 33.

Yeah.

Brunson Average 33. You got 45 in the clothes I gave. Ain't very many people in the poor had 40 plus points in the closeout game.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

I don't know, Joe.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

I ain't close our game.

Jordan Gianna's got 50 when he closed out Phoenix. Jordan got 45 when he closed out Utah, and Brunson got 45 when he

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

closed out the Spurs.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Yeah,

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

sometimes, Ron, just take the compliment, bro. Nobody trying to demean your son, Joe, actually, as a matter of fact, thought so much of your son's game that he said he had a chance to

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

be hardened if given the opportunity. That's praise. That is praise. We talked about it. We believe like, man, this man need

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

to be in the starting lineup or at least playing more minutes than what they're giving him.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Okay, you giving him 25, 27 minutes,

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

you got to bump that up to 30.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

35. The last game he played, 31 minutes,

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

that should have been 36, 37.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

And guess what? Guess what, Uncle Ocho. We talking about a damn rookie. That's 20 years. That's 20 years.

That's what you think of him, Joe?

Yeah.

Having played the game as long as you played, played at the level at which you played, you think that much of that man's game, seeing him as

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

a rookie, that you say, you know what? I think given the opportunity, he could be.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

He could be.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

He have a game similar to James Harden.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

No question. No question.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

I just want to see him in the start lineup.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

I don't care. I don't care. Earned. He done earned him. I mean, if this ain't earned. If his play this year as a rookie and what he's done in the playoff didn't earn him the right to

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

start, well, I don't know what he can do.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Me neither.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

He'll be.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Hey, I'm telling y', all, they gonna find a way. Him and Fox, they gonna be in the damn backcourt together.

So what? What we gonna do with Castle?

It's gonna be Fox, Castle and Harper and Harper.

So they gonna have a three guard lineup?

Hell, yeah, they gonna got three. Cause see, Castle and Harper, they play a lot bigger than they size. You know what I'm saying? They play like they about six, nine. Hell, them boys, they.

Them boys play big. You gonna.

And then you probably keep the way champini shot the ball here. You gotta. You always want a guy like that. But I like Vasile, too.

I do too.

No, you got a good problem on your hand.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

It's gonna be. I don't know about A good problem because, hey, there's only so many shots to go around.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Joe, man, when I say good problem, think about some of the teams here who come there every season thinking, oh, man, we just want to be better this year. And getting their eyes beat out every damn night, man, please. Hey, you can kind of pick and choose what you want to do. If you saying, Antonio, you know, to stay on the right trajectory, you got a bunch of young guys. Your oldest guy in the starting lineup here was 25. And that's who for sale.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Yeah, man, please. But it's going to be.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

It's going to be.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

It's going to be very interesting to see how they put this thing together. I think they're hungry. I think they got a sour taste in their mouth. They're like, bro, we led every single game by double digits and we lost all these games except one.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

My big leagues, too. Yeah.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Double 29 points. 16 points. 13 points. And I think the thing is the inexperience really hurt them.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Yeah.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Because they didn't have somebody to calm them down. I don't think their coach did them any favors.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

We can say. I think.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

I think two things can be true. I think the inexperience, hurting them, not having someone to call them calm them down. And I don't think the coach. I don't think. I think Mike brown out coached Ms. Johnson.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Oh, yeah.

That's not. That's not enough.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Because only been coaching basically a year and a half.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

If that's took over from Pop.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah, you, you. Hey, hey, Joe, you can't. You can't blame Coach. You can't blame Mr. Johnson a little bit. The extension of the code. The extension of the code. Coach is on the court. It was a veteran in Fox. He's supposed to dictate play.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

I agree.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

When to speed it up, when to slow it down. Calm down.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

They.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

They constantly making mistakes back and forth.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Let them go on a 20 to

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

four run before you call a timeout.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

See, stuff like that.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah. I mean, yeah, we can't blame the code. We got to blame them people.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Hey, but hey, what about the substitutions? What about the rotations?

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Yeah.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

You got who's running rotations.

Yeah.

Hey.

Yeah.

Who can't put Luke Cornett in. And every time you're in a negative.

Yeah.

You see what, what you call him, dear? He brought Landry Shamon in instead of Miles. Miles McBride being the first off the bench.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Landry Shamit with the first off the bench.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Yeah. Yeah.

You see when Cat got in trouble. Hey, Mitchell. Robinson got foul trouble. He put.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

He brought another guy in, and then

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

he brought another big in. See, it's, it's, it's.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

It's the game within the game. Yeah, I understand that. Look, the guy. Once you get on the court, but you got to be able to like, you know what? Hey, I don't see it enough. Hey, this thing about to get. Hey, let me go kick it.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Hey, ain't nothing run.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Let me take a time out. Time out.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Yeah, yeah, you got.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Hey, look, also, those threes that was

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

falling in the first half.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Guys, they're not falling now. Let's slack off of taking those threes. They're young teams. Sometimes you have to coach emojo. Put the ball on the floor, get to the get. Hey, bro, you shooting threes when normally

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

we get to the bonus in six minutes to go in a quarter.

Yeah.

And we taking threes with 18, 19 seconds on the shot clock. For what? We're up 29. We're not down 29.

[NBC News Anchor]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Trying to extend. Trying to extend.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

I remember playing, boy, when Pop was coaching Uncle Ocho, you go on a four old run his ass calling time out, he gonna burn all his.

[Skeptical News Consumer]

Damn.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

That man calling timeout.

Ocho, you going to 6, 0 run to start the game. Papa call a timeout.

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[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

And take his whole five out. That man don't be playing, bro. So I just think when it comes to coaching, you do have to make adjustments. You look at Mike Brown. He was throwing at the wall, hoping it stick. He ain't know what. He played Alvarado and Brunson together.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Hell, he had done that.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

He hadn't done that.

They put Alvarado in there. Ocho from the 29 point lead. Alvarado played major, major minutes.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Yeah, that's coaching.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator (Ocho)]

Yeah, and that's that. Hold on Alvarado, that firecracker, he understand the value that Alvarado brings once you get on that court, Joe. Well, he all over the place like the Tasmanian.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

The thing is, Ocho, he had never played him with Brunson because they make.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

They have him so in the back court.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

But hell, that.

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That.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

That came to be their best lineup.

Yeah.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Hey, prime example.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Look at what Steve Kerr did. He benched Andrew Bogan and inserted Andre Iguodala.

Yeah.

His starting center

make him fast.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

My championship. And in small ball, guess what?

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

Everybody tried to be small.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

Everybody tried to have a deaf lineup.

[Karen and Georgia (My Favorite Murder Hosts)]

Yep.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

So he was a.

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He.

[Sports Analyst / Commentator]

He made some rookie mistakes as a coach, too.

[UNC (Sports Podcast Host)]

He absolutely did.

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