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Joe Johnson
George Kittle spoke out against NFL teams being willing to use grass for the World cup matches, but not for their own players. Via the nflpa. We've made it clear that we prefer grass fields. We know it's better on our bodies, and clearly we know it's possible based on everything that went on, putting grass fields for the World cup in each stadium. At this point, it comes down to the NFL making it a priority and choosing to invest in us as players because our bodies are our business. We which they get to capitalize on. Ocho, do you agree with Kittle?
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, this has always been a real tough one for me too, Uncle Joe. And for me, you look at all the injuries, right? You look at the injuries when it comes to soccer, whether players are playing their clubs, where they're playing here at the World Cup.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
And the rate of, the rate of injuries for them as far as ACL tears is so far few than the NFL. And most of the time we get hurt, it's on the artificial surface.
Joe Johnson
Yes.
Chad Ochocinco
And what do we say it is? We say we're tearing our ACLs because of the surface. So, I mean, is there some truth to it? Probably so. But one of the things that would happen is, is now you're adding more money, having owners to have to pay for maintenance to the, you know, to the grass. Because though most of the stadiums that have the artificial turf on, you know, it's cold weather stadiums, it's cold. It's where it gets cold at some point. Now, if you have grass, well, when you get the goddamn, you know, November, December and January, well, you have hell on your hands. I, I, I, I, I get it, though. I understand where Kittle's coming from. We've seen it countless times with players having injuries on the artificial turf. And I mean, for someone that never got in, never got injured and it played on artificial turf. Uncle Joe, you know, my whole life in Cincinnati, I think I had grass my first year before, before they changed it. I just, I, I get it, I get it.
Joe Johnson
Y' all did. Ocho, as a matter of fact, I remember you guys used to have gray. Well, first at Riverfront, you guys had turf.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
And then, and the statement that you got now, because I remember my last year, I think we played Y' all in 02.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, see, we already had, we had,
Joe Johnson
we had, y' all had grass then.
Chad Ochocinco
Didn't.
Joe Johnson
Didn't y' all switch to turf? What? When did y' all go to synthetic grass? I think it might have been like 05.04.04.05.
Chad Ochocinco
It might have been 03.
Joe Johnson
Huh.
Chad Ochocinco
Maybe 03. I can't remember. But, I mean, I didn't mind. Joe. Joe. I don't care what I'm on, boy. They're on ice, boy. I'm running routes on ice, you know?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, Joe.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
I'm saying, Unc, did you have a preference when you played grass?
Joe Johnson
Grass. Absolutely. Grass. Grass. Grass. And then look, we always had grass. And the Chargers always had grass. Now the Chargers, because they shared the field with the baseball. So you just hope to avoid the Chargers before September. If you got October on, you know, you gonna get nice weather and you're gonna get grass. We always had grass. Kansas City had turf. Then they went to grass. The Kingdome. The Seattle Seahawks used to play in the Kingdome. Yeah, that was turf. Then they went outside. And then when they started building luminous field, they played at Husky Stadium. That was turf. And then they got grass. And so, like the last couple of years, everything that I played on is within my division was grass.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Then go to Baltimore. Baltimore was grass. Jacksonville was grass. Tennessee was grass. Cleveland was grass.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Cincinnati was the only one. But I think Cincinnati, by the time I got to Baltimore, Cincinnati was grass. So. But no, Joe, I didn't like the turf because the old turf, now they call this field turf, but the old turf was basically concrete with a carpet rolled on top of was hard. And you stayed with strawberries. You didn't really know how bad until you got your ass in the shower after the game through your eye.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Damn.
Joe Johnson
What? And then have your ass red. Cause you don't slid on that turf. You did the peel a. Yeah. Elbows and your forearms, your knees. So. No, I. I prefer grass. But to Ocho's Point, the upkeep and the maintenance of it. Remember, the objective of any corporation.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes.
Joe Johnson
Is to make as much as we possibly can while spending as little as we possibly can.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
Joe Johnson
That's it. That's. That's a. Output is here. Profits up there. Yeah, that's just. That's just the way it is.
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Yes, sir.
Joe Johnson
And. Yeah, and like you said, plus also, they do so many other things. They got college football games there. They got concerts there. Can you imagine? You got a concert and you got 70,000 people in there.
Chad Ochocinco
Grass. Nope.
Joe Johnson
That stadium, that, that, that, that, that. That concert stadium. People walking.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Eat that up.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
So I. I get. I totally understand. I think. I think the only two, like, true. True grass is. Is like Houston and Arizona.
Chad Ochocinco
Arizona.
Joe Johnson
They roll them out on pallets.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey, Joe. They grass so beautiful. Boy. I'm talking about that low Bermuda grass.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Hey.
Chad Ochocinco
It's like I've been on the golf course once, but it looked like that. Golf course grass, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. St. Augustine. Cause, you know, look, you got. You got fescue, you got centipede, you got St. Augustine, you got Kentucky bluegrass. So it all depends because certain grasses grow different in certain areas. Some grass need a lot of sunlight, some grass doesn't need as much sunlight. So you got to understand where you are, proximity in the region that you live in.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
The type of guy See that St. Augustine is a thick type of grass.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
And some people like to kind of have that grass for the yard. You can't cut it too low because it'll burn.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
And then some people like centipedes, some people like fescue in the Kentucky blue. I don't know what Augusta nationally is, so. But they say. They said Houston turf now. So they said Houston is field turf now. Tampa has natural grass. Okay. But all I know is I got tired of cutting all of it. Don't push your law over. Grab my yard.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Oh, yeah.
Joe Johnson
Drake flexed on ig that he won a million dollars betting on Canada to beat South Africa in the World cup. Today after placing 707 on his country, he walks away with a smooth profit of 231,000.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
How much he bet?
Joe Johnson
He bet 770. 770,000.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Oh, yeah.
Joe Johnson
And he can't. But here's the thing, Ocho. They scored. They scored with like.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, they scored a minute left.
Joe Johnson
An extra time.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. On stoppage time.
Joe Johnson
Stoppage time.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. It was a good game, South Africa. South Africa had some chances, too. They just couldn't find it back in the net.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey, hey. You can't even enjoy watching the damn game. You spend that type of money gambling? Hell, no.
Joe Johnson
But for me, that don't make no sense, though. 7. 7. I bet 770 to win 231. Now I need to bet 231 to win 770,
ISO (Joe Johnson)
right?
Joe Johnson
I don't know. I don't know how y' all look at it, but that's how I look at it, Joe. And oo, man, I need to bet little to win a lot. I ain't trying to bet a lot to win a little.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
I'm saying Canada was favored, though, wasn't it?
Joe Johnson
Yes.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
I think that's probably why. If they were the underdog, it would be.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's officially 6. 29.
Chad Ochocinco
Happy birthday, Joe.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey, hey, hey. Shout out. Hey, hey. Shout out. Nightcap family, you hear me? Chat. What's happening? You know, it's a real one birthday
Joe Johnson
today, you feel me? Cancel season.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
What's happening? You feel me?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, it's. I think it's. Hold on. I think it's Elway's birthday today, too. Okay, the 28th or the 29th. Might be the 28th.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
I see why Elway so damn cold in.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
You born on the 29th, boy. You something. You something serious.
Joe Johnson
You hear me?
Chad Ochocinco
Happy birthday to you.
Joe Johnson
You bet.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey, shout out. Shout out to my people back at the crib in Little Rock. What's happening? You know what I'm saying? Your boy still tapped in? What's up? What's up? You feel me? Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, okay. Hey, hey, Little Rock. Hey, what's up, Little Rock?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, what's happening?
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, Joe.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, yeah. What's happening?
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, what?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
What?
Chad Ochocinco
What that mean? Okay, that's the gang.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
They throwing up. Throwing up a Little Rock. You throwing up the L, man.
Joe Johnson
Okay, okay. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, your shirt red?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Here we go. Here we go.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, get up, get up, get up.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Come on. What we got? What we got? Next.
Chad Ochocinco
Happy birthday, Joe.
Joe Johnson
In other words, what you do? He bet 770. He get his 770 back and they give him 231.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Damn. Yeah, he took a damn good risk.
Joe Johnson
Ocho. K Verde goal keeper Vozina now has more Instagram followers than any active NFL, MLB, and NHL players. He has 17.2 million followers. What?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
He came in with 43,000.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, Joe.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
That boy ballin'. Hey, listen.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, Joe. After that Spang game and they draw zero zero.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
And all them saves he had in that Spain game, the first game of the group stage. Yeah, man, man, them numbers shot up right up. He had a hell of a game. We talk about K. We thought. We talk about K Verde, a team playing Spain.
Joe Johnson
524, 000 people.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Damn.
Chad Ochocinco
That's it.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey, and that man went from 40, 000 to 17. Wow, man, congratulations.
Joe Johnson
They're about to have 424,300.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
We going.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey. You know what I don't like, though?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
What's that?
Chad Ochocinco
I love the Cinderella story. I love that Cape Verde and some of the other. Some of the other teams, African teams have played well you know, in the group stage. Right? But the round of 32, guess who Cape Verde got to play July 3rd?
Joe Johnson
Oh, bro. They got Argentina.
Chad Ochocinco
They got to play Argentina.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Oh, man.
Joe Johnson
If he got to play. If they Be. If. Let's just say, for the sake of argument, let's do a hypothetically. Hypothetically, if they beat Argentina, he gonna double that.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Oh, yeah, Double.
Chad Ochocinco
But if they. Listen, if they beat Argentina, right? Hypothetically speaking, the goalie going to 100 million.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
What?
Chad Ochocinco
He's going to 100 million followers. I'm telling you.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Damn. He didn't. Pol Nocho. He like that.
Chad Ochocinco
It's not that he's.
Joe Johnson
He stood on his head. Hey, they love you. Gotta realize Ronaldo has like 668 million. Only Instagram itself has more followers than Ronaldo. And then Messi is next. Messi has, like, 550. Or maybe 560, maybe 530 something. So you got to think about it. Those two followers have over a billion followers. Over one, like 1.1 billion followers.
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Two people.
Joe Johnson
Just those two guys.
Chad Ochocinco
That's crazy.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Damn. Yeah, Soccer big time, bro.
Joe Johnson
You remember when Ronaldo went on YouTube? He started a YouTube page and got 50 million subs in, like, 24 hours.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Damn.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, they. They. They are icon. They are living icons still active in their respective craft.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Crazy.
Joe Johnson
You know, it would have been interesting if Jordan was playing in this area. How many followers would he have?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, he had the same.
Joe Johnson
LeBron has the most. I think LeBron's like 157 million. I think he has the most. I don't even know who's next. Maybe Steph Curry. I don't even know.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hell, Jordan will be up there with them damn soccer players. Hell, in IG itself, probably.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, I'm gonna tell Cristiano, man. Go do club Shay. Shay, man.
Joe Johnson
Bad. Look here.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, you think
Joe Johnson
if he came on. We do. We do a quarter of a billion views?
Chad Ochocinco
You think Cat Williams did numbers?
Joe Johnson
He'll. He'll do a quarter of a million views.
Chad Ochocinco
Easy, easy.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Oh, yeah. If Michael. If Michael Jackson was still alive, he have, like, 2 billion.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey,
Joe Johnson
he have 2 billion.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Damn.
Joe Johnson
So keep it going. K. Birdie. All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.
Chad Ochocinco
It's your birthday, buddy. You sure you want me to fly down, come hang with you and the family?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Nah, I'm good. Ojo. I'll see you in a couple weeks.
Chad Ochocinco
What's in a couple weeks?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
I'll see you in a couple weeks.
Chad Ochocinco
Bro, But I'm asking you what's in a couple of weeks for you to be able to see me? Where we gonna be at?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
We gonna be in ny at nyc, at.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, okay. Okay. I'm gonna see out there. I'm gonna see out there.
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Joe.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey. Don't be too nervous. I put hands on you now, huh?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Oh, yeah, yeah. It's just a friendly fade, you know, we get us a little friendly fade in, then we can go back to being cool.
Joe Johnson
But I got me a favor.
Chad Ochocinco
Make sure you bring shades with you too.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Why?
Chad Ochocinco
Because your ass gonna be black. Wow.
Joe Johnson
Share the pose with Ocho. The Monday night game versus Champ Bailey, when you made him fall on that 50 yard touchdown bomb, was your coming out party to let the NFL know you that boy in here to stay.
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, I mean, listen, that was a good night again, Champ. Obviously, Champ. Still one of the greatest. One of the greatest. When we talk about defensive backs being able to cover one side of the field in those conversations with Reavis and Deion, Champ is that. I mean, that night I like to say I got lucky, you know, a little bit. Especially where he tripped over my. The back of my heel. Which happens sometime. But that was a good game. That was a good game. That. That. I would say that is my coming out party in a sense to let let people know and put them on notice. I hit arrived
Joe Johnson
ISO. What is the biggest shot you've ever hit in your life?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
The biggest shot. Damn. The biggest shot. I honestly don't know, man.
Jessa (IBM Representative)
I.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
You know, I had a few big ones. Uncle Ojo Paul's. But I can't really. I can't really pinpoint one that was just. I don't really know. I don't really know. I know I had some great playoff moments, but I can't really remember like one shot that was just like. I'm sure I got him. I just can't remember now.
Joe Johnson
I was on Tick Tock and I saw a video that you showed a promo for your shoot for the return to Baltimore on Monday night. You were singing Eminem's song Guess who's Back. But you put your name in it. Yeah, I couldn't use his.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
And I'm sure ESPN paid money to get that cleared.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, yeah.
Joe Johnson
Nightcap. My nightcap. Big three. My wife Adrian and I welcome the baby boy legend Maximus to the world today. 6lbs 13 hours ounces. Mom and son are healthy. God is great. Quentin, congratulations.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Congrats.
Joe Johnson
Wife. Congratulations on the newborn black mom and baby are healthy. Hey, Eddie. Born on Joel's birthday, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, that's your first. That's his first.
Joe Johnson
They say welcome to our baby boy. He didn't say it was first, but Legend Maximus.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, I like that. Oh, I like that name.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Legend Maximus.
Chad Ochocinco
With a name like Legend Maximus. Hey, he got to be that boy.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey, destined for greatness. You hear me?
Chad Ochocinco
He ain't got no choice.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey, I tell you what.
Joe Johnson
Now you know what I'm thinking about? You know what? If you had another. If you had another kid, Ocho, what would you name it?
Chad Ochocinco
That's. You know what, Unc? That's a great question. And most of the time, I stay out of the naming business and allow,
Joe Johnson
you know, I'm in the naming business.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
You are? Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
I always allow mom to name. Now, if it's something I don't agree with, I will let them listen. You know what? I don't really like that. I don't like that. I'm just be honest with you. But I let them do everything here. I call my kids nicknames anyway. I ain't. I. I haven't called Serenity Serenity since she was born. I say French Fry. I call it French Fry. Cause she looked like a little golden, little French fry. That's my baby.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, yeah, Joe.
Joe Johnson
What you got for him, Joe?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
I mean, all my kids names start with a J, bro. I'm involved. Yeah, they all. They all got JJ's in their name.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
So if I had a child. None of them are juniors, though. I don't have, you know.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, I know. No junior.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah. I don't have no juniors. I wouldn't. I. I don't know. For whatever reason, man, I always felt that was strange. You know, maybe it was because of, you know, what I've accomplished and had to put that pressure.
Joe Johnson
You a junior, ain't you, though, Joe?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Nah, I don't have my dad's last name. I just got his first name.
Joe Johnson
Okay, okay, okay.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah. But, you know, giving my son, you know, my name, bro, I. You know, hell, it's already enough pressure out here. You feel me? Yes.
Joe Johnson
That's a good right about that.
Chad Ochocinco
That makes sense.
Jessa (IBM Representative)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
I wonder if that is his first child, man. You know, I like. Congratulations.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, no.
Chad Ochocinco
Two is better than one, though.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
You still working on. You still working for twins, Ocho? You.
Chad Ochocinco
Who, me?
Joe Johnson
I thought you said working with your boy. Please.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Who, me? Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm trying to look for the right price, Joe. You know, that. That FBI boy, that thing. Expensive boy.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, yeah. Would you name yours if you had One if you had one, because I know yours still.
Joe Johnson
If I had a boy, I'd name it. I'd name him after my brother.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah. Oh, man, we still got. You still got time.
Joe Johnson
What I look like? I mean, it's gonna be a 30, 33, 34 year age gap between my oldest, between my kids.
Chad Ochocinco
Ain't nothing wrong with that, huh? Hey, listen. Ain't no rule. Ain't no rule book. Ain't nobody say you have to do things this way. What's 20, 26.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I gotta do that, kid. That got expensive now, Ocho boy.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey, you ain't never lie.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey, hey, Joe, I tell people all the time, man, kids ain't expensive. What you choose to buy they ass is, huh? Because I can get by. I can get back cheap with them real quick, right?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Okay.
Joe Johnson
No, you can't. Yeah, I wanted twins once upon a time, Ocho.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Oh, no, I ain't never.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, Unc. It's never too late. You hear me?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, it's too late.
Chad Ochocinco
No, it ain't.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
It really ain't, though. For real, if you just really think about it.
Chad Ochocinco
Thank you, Joe. Thank you, Joe. Thank you.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
It really ain't, man.
Joe Johnson
You see how I'm moving around? How you think I'll be moving around in 17 years?
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, they'll be able to push you.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey, listen, listen, please. You gonna have you a. A younger lady. Cause you know you don't want nothing
Joe Johnson
old but a bankroll.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
You hear me? Yeah, yeah. I already know you don't want nothing old but a bankroll. So listen.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey. They call me Cat Pistol Pie. Ain't nothing smoke. Ain't no real bullets in that joke. Ain't no real bullets now. Yeah, that's all I got for him, man.
Chad Ochocinco
That's a good one.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, that's a good one.
Joe Johnson
As a trio Laker fan, once LeBron got there, I was able to put my dislike for him and root for him. It's not even LeBron. It's his fans. His fans make you hate him. But we'll be sad to see him leave.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, you're gonna be sad to see him leave. You gonna be sad when he retired, too? Cause, yeah, you know, the game has been in a great space and place since he's joined the NBA 21, 22 years ago, man. It's.
Joe Johnson
It's.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
It's gonna be a sad day when he walk up out of there, Ojo.
Joe Johnson
Yeah,
Chad Ochocinco
People never understand it too, Joe. They'll never.
Joe Johnson
But I'm just trying to figure out. They say his fans, so what? Historically, great players didn't have a loyal fan base. So Jordan fans. Jordan fans don't bother you, huh? Kobe fans don't bother you? Steph Curry fans doesn't bother you? Michael Jordan, excuse me. Magic Johnson fans doesn't Bother you just LeBron's fans, huh? You see that y'? All Every day. Yeah, only LeBron fans are any more fans more devout than Kobe and Jordan's fans.
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No.
Joe Johnson
I would say no. But hey, it's gonna end for everybody. Steph has mentioned more than ones that he'd like to play in Charlotte someday. Any chance that could happen? Yeah, but it won't be tomorrow. Hey, probably by the time Steph start playing in Charlotte, he'd be his three ball be looking like mine.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, I don't see, I don't see that happening. Not, not in the, at the rate that they're going. And what that. I don't see that happening.
Joe Johnson
LeBron is too old for these questions. It's rings or nothing. Like, why are we still playing for fun at this point, your career, at this point in your career at a high level. Yeah, it is. Does he still. It's easier to play when you still enjoy the game and you don't look at it as a grind. How many people you think tomorrow morning is going to wake up like, oh man, I got to go to this Damn job. Yeah, LeBron is. Most guys never have. LeBron probably never had woke up with that. Brady Jordan, Kobe, Peyton Manning, Joe Ocho. Me, I ain't never woke up like, oh Lord, man, I gotta go. Oh, Joshua, he gotta go to practice today. I, I ain't never felt that way. Now I'm sure maybe some people have, but I've never felt like that. I've never had a job that I woke up and said, damn, I gotta go in here today.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey, excuse me, though, not when you enjoying it and having a good damn time. Now when I had my first job at ups, hell yeah. I was thinking that I was like, damn, I gotta, I gotta go down here, pick up these, these heavy ass E rig boxes and unload this damn truck. Oh, wait, what it's gonna be? Hell yeah. I thought about it.
Joe Johnson
Good money though, Joe.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, they play good money. But I was in high school, I, I had already made my man up. I said, oh, I'm in there with dudes, man, who've been working 15, 17 years. I'm like, oh, hell no, I can't do this for no dam. Oh, hell no. I'm finna. I'm gonna be in the gym tomorrow for sure. For sure.
Joe Johnson
That's. That's how it is, Joe.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
I mean, you working out there in the fields, and I'm young and that. Man, they grown. They got. They got kids, they got grandkids. I'm like, man, I'm not fitting to be working out here. Hey, you think I'm doing a manual labor job? Me with my kids in ec? Oh, hell no.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey, Ocho, dudes used to come in there, you know, if y' all know guys who work at ups, they all wear back braces.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
So, yeah, I'm coming in. I see all these older dudes. They were like, hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe, man, you gotta get your back brace, man. I'm like, well, I don't even plan on being here that damn long. I'm just trying.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I ain't gonna work long enough my back to start hurting.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey, hey. I'm just trying to find me something to make a little money before I go off to college, man.
Joe Johnson
Damn.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
This. I ain't. Yeah. I ain't gonna be alone.
Joe Johnson
Golden State geriatrics in the 1990s, two receivers had success against prime. That's your brother, Michael Irvins. What did they do different for others in the 90s? They were physical. Yeah, my brother played for contact. Mike was a big physical receiver. Mike was the reason they outlawed the head slap, because Michael Herb was slapping hell out of people upside.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, come. Hey, hey, Joe. Coming up, that line of scrimmage.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Get up out my way.
Joe Johnson
And people ask me, the way you see Mike animated on his podcast, he's like that in real life.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
That ain't no act. That's him. Yeah, he's the. He's the. The best, the coolest, the greatest. I mean, man, that dude there. As a matter of fact, we just saw it. We just saw it. I just saw it Thursday.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
In la. Mike, I gotta go, man. I said, man, I gotta go do my podcast. You know how Mike is. Mike gonna be talking? Michael talked to.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
30 minutes.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
I gotta go. But he's a man. Great, great, great, great, great dude, man. B, me and Mike took the Super Bowl. That was in Atlanta. All I would say is this. Me and Mike took Gary Sheffield. He had a winner, but he had a Winnebago.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Oh, no, he had a motor coach. I said, man, let me, man. He like, you know how to drive one of these? I said, hell, it ain't nothing but a big old truck with a hull over it. Yeah, I could drive It. We boned out, man. You know what? To this day, I don't know how he got it. He got that coach back.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
What, you were driving a motor coach?
Joe Johnson
Yes, me and Mike. Nah, I don't know how he got it back. Next time I see Chef, I was like, chef, how'd you get that? How you get that back?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Which y' all ain't take it back to him, what y' all do with it, you know?
Chad Ochocinco
And he was out there having a time.
Joe Johnson
Why can't Orlando seem to be able to get consistent play making point guards? Why does it seem like it's impossible to be good for three point shooting for them? Did Rashad Lewis and them use up all the threes or something? They definitely need a point guard. They. They.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
They got point guard. They just don't have scoring shooting point guard.
Joe Johnson
You know, they don't. Sugs is a defensive point guard.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah. So they don't play great off Ben Carroll and Wagner. They. They guys don't play great off them. They great pick and roll guards who can get in the teeth of the defense, who can make. Who can be disruptive defensively, but they're just not that. That great of an offensive threat.
Joe Johnson
My man locked back up after coming out in January. I want to leave. Want to leave. But his son died in March from a car accident. Am I wrong? My man locked back up after coming out in January. I want to leave. I want to leave. But his son died and. Oh, oh. She's saying, my man is locked back up after coming out in January. I want to leave. But his son died in March in a car accident. Am I wrong?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Nah, man, listen. Them damn women, ain't they only gonna wait around for so damn long now? Yeah, yeah.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, you.
Joe Johnson
You know, probably longer than what you.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
If he just got out and went right back.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, yeah, man.
Joe Johnson
He's trying to tell you what is. What's in there is more important than what's out here.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hello. You can't tell me it's something important in there now. Hey, hell no.
Joe Johnson
It is.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Huh?
Joe Johnson
For some of them, it is.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Nah, hell no.
Joe Johnson
Nah. Hey, baby, I don't think you'll be wrong if you left.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
I'm telling you.
Joe Johnson
I don't.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Don't. I did.
Joe Johnson
I know. I. I know The. The vowel said, until they'll do us part or until that man break us up. The man, he broke us up. Yeah.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
I'm gonna have you a little fun, baby.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Go ahead. What'd you say, Ocho?
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, no. I'M saying, you know, you. You have no value behind them. Behind them bars now, man.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Look, okay, people make mistakes. But to get out and to go back after she was there for you when you got out. Ah, no, no, no, no, no.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, hey. Somebody else gonna have a holler like a stoke pig. Yeah. You know how I go.
Joe Johnson
Hey.
Chad Ochocinco
Damn, Joe.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah. Yeah. You know how I go. Ocho. Don't go to act like you don't know what's going on.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. I mean, that's a pig. Damn.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah. Yeah, you do.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey. Gotta falling off the bed. He falling off of Will.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey, there you go, you know. Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Come in. Let me stop.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm talking about.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, Chad. Y' all know.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, that's a good one.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey, hey, hey, hey. Y' all probably ran into a little something something back in your day that they had somebod. He was locked up. You know how I go. Yeah, yeah.
Joe Johnson
Bad A. Yeah, man. Y' all just. Yeah, Y' all wrong for that. Oh, you wrong for that, Ocho.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Me?
Chad Ochocinco
What I do?
Joe Johnson
Tell me that, man, she got. He gonna have a falling out the bed. He falling right off the bone.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Don't play no games.
Joe Johnson
I. So, Ocho, my son, Derek Darien. Birthday is today. Big 21. Can you please wish him a happy birthday for me, please? Proud father Darian. Happy 21st birthday, bro. You legal 21? Actually. Do everything that you want to do.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
But just make sure it's the right thing.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey, hey, hey, hey. And. And you share a birthday with your boy. You feel me, boy? You in good hands. You hear me? God looking out for you, man. Hey, stay locked in, twin.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. And make sure if somebody asks you to show up, you show up.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Oh, here he go.
Chad Ochocinco
I just want to make sure he. You know, we could count on him. That's it, bro.
Joe Johnson
Somebody said the Ninja Turtles came up out of the sewers with no shell when the Knicks won the championship.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Oh, man.
Joe Johnson
Cowabunga.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
No. Who said that? No, Bart Simpson said cowabunga. What did the Ninja Turtles say? There was Raphael, Donatello, Michelangelo.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Leonardo.
Chad Ochocinco
Leonardo.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Leonardo. Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Can you wish my son a happy birthday? To my son Julian, turning one year old today, June 29th. I'll show him this when he's older. Happy birthday, King ISO. Absolutely appreciate it. Happy first birthday, Papa.
Chad Ochocinco
Happy first, Julian.
Joe Johnson
One day you're gonna look. You're like, hello, man. You knew Ocho and ISO? Yeah, man. Show this to your friend.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hello.
Joe Johnson
Happy first birthday, Julian. Big three. I'm ready for some football, but am I tripping? Did Jerry let his three best pass rushers lead the building? D Where D Lawrence Michael Parson. What is Jerry thinking? Jerry's thinking that those guys didn't have it anymore.
Chad Ochocinco
Right.
Joe Johnson
And D where went and had a remarkable help. We'll lead his team to a Super Bowl. D Long went and helped lead a team to the Super Bowl. Michael got hurt, but he was just starting to round into shape to and. And to show you why Green Bay gave up the assets and gave him the contract that they gave him. You started to see that. We'll see. He believed that the peep the. The players that he received back and the picks that he was able to get in the draft, he believes they'll be able to replace Michael. Only time will tell.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Only time will tell which team can
Joe Johnson
pay LeBron the money he wants and also contend for a championship. It seems to me Miami has the most they can play in the full 15 million mid level.
Commercial Announcer
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ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yep. Hello. Yep.
Joe Johnson
Now whether or not that. That that's a. He could contend with a championship, I don't know. But I know they can play him the most money. That's from what I've been reading, Miami
ISO (Joe Johnson)
has the most and they ain't gonna have number G league players surrounded they ass.
Joe Johnson
So you can say, sure you won't.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, we're worried about. We'll cross that bridge when we get there, Joe.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Okay,
Joe Johnson
sharp. I'm a 49er fan, but I've been following your career for years. I'll probably never meet you, but nightcap is the best thing going. Salute to you and the guys salute, gentlemen. Appreciate that. Thank you for your support. Thank you for watching all you guys. I mean, like I said, we started off in a. In a hotel room in. In New York in September. Only had about 2, 000 fans that night. I think. I think Ocho. I think we went about 35 minutes.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
And I was like, man, man. But I still. We still got so much to talk about.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
And then we expanded and then Ocho got me drunk one night and started telling stories. Joined and the rest is, as they say, nightcap history. But go ahead, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
Nah, I was saying it was history after that. Boy, them story. Boy, I got so many in my back pocket, Joe.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Oh man, I already know it.
Joe Johnson
I ain't got no more. I've been good. I done told y' all all the bad stuff I did. I've been a model citizen since then.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Papa was A rolling stone Wherever he
Chad Ochocinco
laid his hat was his was his home.
Joe Johnson
Can you give a shout out to my wife, Jasmine? She's pregnant with our first child. I'll keep the show posted. Ocho, advice got her pregnant. Oh, what?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Well, Jasmine, congratulations. Hopefully everything is going really, really well in this pregnancy, and pretty soon you're gonna have a deliver. We don't. You didn't say it was a boy or a girl, but hopefully you deliver a healthy child and you and baby will be healthy. And, Gabriel, thank you, man. Thank you for watching and thank you for your support. I don't know what advice Ocho gave you to get your wife pregnant, but you probably should stop listening.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey, hey, hey, Jazz, don't let. Don't let him pull no fast one on you over there, Jazz. You know, you gotta stay locked in, so. Yeah,
Joe Johnson
Joe, what team that won the NBA Finals player could you replace and they still win the same Ocho, the Super bowl with you? And who would you join? So what team won the NBA Finals that you could join? Oh, so you could. They could. I mean, Joe, you could replace the player, and you could join and they still win. I guess he talked about.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Now he got to be talking about who.
Joe Johnson
What.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
What player would I take off the Knicks? And I can replace and we still win. Yeah, I take Bridges, but we be good. Damn, Joe, you asked a question here. Uncle. I gotta say some damn bite. I take Bridget's spot.
Joe Johnson
Babe, why'd you. Why didn't you say? Miles McBride.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Nah, nah, put me in the damn. I'm starting lineup here.
Joe Johnson
Damn that.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, we gonna get to it. Me and Brunson in the back court.
Joe Johnson
Shit. Yeah, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
Damn.
Joe Johnson
So you got to replace somebody on Seahawks.
Chad Ochocinco
The Seahawks.
Joe Johnson
They just won the Super Bowl.
Chad Ochocinco
Rasheed Rice. Not Rashid Rice. Rashid. Shahid.
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Shahid.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Damn. You finna be balling out of control, ain't you?
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, I'm gonna make it do what it do, you know?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Okay.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Somebody say, hey, Joe, you could replace Spike Lee.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey, hey. You know, the damn New Yorker boy, they gonna stick together now.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah, man, I. I ain't gonna lie, bro. I ain't fit to hold you at 58. I couldn't replace nobody. I couldn't give him the water. I can't get him a towel. I can't do nothing.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
No, no, no, no. Right. Right now at 45. Nah, I can't. I mean, I can't replace him. But I'm thinking, you talking back in what? I mean, right? Yeah. Oh, hell no.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah. What?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Anybody that. Anybody that won the super bowl in the last 10 years. In my prime, I can replace.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. The hell yeah.
Joe Johnson
My guys biggest expectation this season, Bryce Burrow, Dak Stroud. Who lives up to the hype and who doesn't.
Chad Ochocinco
D. Yeah, we won't know. That's a great question.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
N. We do now. We do know. D. We know that. Gonna put.
Joe Johnson
We know. D. Gonna put. Supposed to be. I don't think it's your quarterback. It might be Joe. It might be OO's quarterback. They got everything.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah.
Joe Johnson
He said they feel like 2019, LSU. Yes, they've. They've helped that defense. They brought. They brought T back. They brought Chase, obviously. Chase is back. The running back Brown. They got a guy that can fill it in the slot.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey, the best ability is availability. We know Dank ass gonna be healthy and ready to go. We don't know that about Barrel, bro. Let's keep.
Joe Johnson
We know that.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Huh?
Joe Johnson
We know that about that.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, we know that about that. You know he gonna put it where it supposed to be picking cd. We know them boys gonna eat. You hear me, Ferguson? The boy gonna eat. Yeah.
Joe Johnson
CD drops a lot of balls.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
He didn't.
Commercial Announcer
We.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
We don't. He didn't fix that. I mean, he been. He been working. He didn't fix that. He read it.
Joe Johnson
Okay.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, we good.
Joe Johnson
Okay. I'm gonna take your word for it.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank each and every one of you for joining us like you have so many times before. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle. My two partners and co host, the Liberty City legend, the bingo frame ring Bingo Ring of fame honoree. A former pro bowler and an all probably that is Chad Ochocinko Johnson. And the third member of the Big Three is a seven time NBA All Star and a Little Rock, Arkansas native, Mr. Clutch himself, ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of shade by Laportier, just head over to laportierconac.com to grab yours. If it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. Remember, it is a premium VSOP Cognac. The best tasting, smoothest VSOP cognac on the market. But don't take my word for it. Try it and compare it against other cognac you may have tried are looking to try and you'll see we have the best tasting, smoothest VSOP cognac on the market. And we have it in two sizes. The OG which is the 750 and now the Junior, the 375. The same great quality, the same great taste, the same smoothness. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Again. The Charlotte Hornets traded Miles bridges for a 2029 first round pick. A 2027 second round picks to the Phoenix sun for Grayson, Allen, Royce, O' Neill and a 2033 first round pick. Wow. So that's Nightcap for tonight.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
I'm up.
Joe Johnson
He's Ocho, he's ISO. Thank you guys for joining us.
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Episode Date: June 29, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (Unc), Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (Ocho), Joe "ISO" Johnson
This episode of Nightcap dives into heated debates and reactions to the latest sports news, including George Kittle's push for grass fields in the NFL, Drake’s big World Cup bet win, and Cape Verde's goalkeeper becoming a social media sensation. The crew also riffs on NFL/NBA hot topics, reminisces about memorable moments, and tackles lively audience Q&A—all in their trademark unfiltered, playful style.
“We've made it clear that we prefer grass fields...it comes down to the NFL making it a priority and choosing to invest in us as players because our bodies are our business, which they get to capitalize on.” (02:32)
"The old turf was basically concrete with a carpet rolled on top...you stayed with strawberries. You didn’t really know how bad it was until you got your ass in the shower after the game..."
– Shannon Sharpe (06:01)
"I need to bet little to win a lot. I ain’t trying to bet a lot to win a little."
– ISO (10:11)
“If they beat Argentina...the goalie going to 100 million followers. I’m telling you.”
– Ocho (13:23)
“Are any more fans more devout than Kobe and Jordan’s fans?”
– Shannon (23:54)
“It’s easier to play when you still enjoy the game and you don’t look at it as a grind.”
– Joe (24:29)
"Kids ain't expensive. What you choose to buy they ass is."
– Ocho (21:32)
“What I look like?...it’s gonna be a 30, 33, 34 year age gap between my oldest, between my kids."
– Joe (21:12)
Lively, irreverent, unfiltered, and humorous with heartfelt moments of mentorship and community.
This Nightcap episode blends sharp sports debates, personal stories, and robust banter, offering listeners a front-row seat to unfiltered perspectives on the headlines driving the NFL, NBA, and global sports culture. With memorable moments—including Ocho’s playful jabs, Shannon’s storytelling, and ISO’s sharp wit—this episode is classic Nightcap: funny, real, and deeply connected to fans.