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Chad Ochocinco
Yes, sir.
Host
You better play your best because we're going to be absolutely at our best. I thought the difference was Wimby and Joe. We talked about this. I say Joe, as much as I love his defense, offensively is where Wimy is the difference.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
When he scores, they're unbeatable.
Joe Johnson
Unbeatable.
Host
They're unbeatable. When he gets. When he get. Gets off to the start, that great start, you go look at it now, game one was an anomaly where he only had 14. And then he goes crazy in the second half. But if you go back and look at the game that he gets 17, 18 in the first half. I think he had 19 in the first half tonight. It's hard. It's hard to do, to deal with him.
Chad Ochocinco
Go ahead, Ocho and Uncle Joe. I'm glad both of y' all are agreeing and seeing exactly what I could see before the Goddamn. Excuse me. Before the series started, I told you that Wimby will be the deciding factor on whether this series is won by the spurs or not. But y' all didn't listen. Y' all went with the, The. The MVP two time at that. So I understand why you picked the team that is previously coming off a championship. But when we being the deciding factor, I don't know who got in his ear. I don't know who talked to him. They said 14 shots. That's not enough. We need you to go out here and be aggressive. He was aggressive from the beginning of the game. Everyone else came along, came along as well. He put the ball on the floor. Hey, Joe, he getting to the rack. He's shooting floaters, huh? Yeah, tear drops. He got a nice little touch on it. He getting the ball on the elbow. Okay, you gonna back off me a little bit? Don't worry about it. I'm gonna just hit this midi on you. And he was line from the three. Yeah, everything is working for him tonight. Obviously, he was doing it on the defensive end as well, which is why. Which is one of the reasons in which they won tonight's game.
Host
Also, before you go, Joe, if you look at. Look at where he was getting the ball tonight. He was getting that ball A lot closer to the rim tonight than constantly sitting up at the three point line and getting it out there and trying to make a move. He did and he was a lot more decisive. You see a one spin he to the rim. He tried to lay it up with his left hand.
Joe Johnson
Go ahead. He Wim Yama, obviously he's the catalyst fellas, to everything the spurs do. I mean, if he plays great like you said, you right, they hard as hell to beat, bro. And if he scoring the ball, you know, in that first quarter, he made three threes in that first quarter. I said D, it's gonna open, it's gonna open up his game because you know when he's making those shots, you have to be honest now he can, you know, pump fake, get in the lane, shoot his floater, spray out for three things of that such. But it, it got him going. As we, we heard Ms. Johnson say last game, 15 shots weren't enough. I thought he was so assertive, bro. I thought he was so determined to put his stamp on the game in the first quarter. And once he gets going, it opens up the floor for all these other guys. Everybody look, look at Castle Castle, 5 for 10. He only had one turnover tonight. 17 points, 5 assists.
Host
Then you, Dylan Harper, you look at
Joe Johnson
Dylan Harper, you know, super efficient. If all three of those three guys play well, I know Fox didn't play well, but if those three guys play well, Castle, Harper and Wim Yama, bro, they gonna be tough to beat. But they at home, we expect for them to play well. Like I said, I, I didn't think it was nowhere in hell OKC was going to San Antonio and winning game six, bro. You know, they, they just were the more desperate team understanding what was at stake, man, you weren't gonna be able to come in there and get no win.
Host
No. And they, and I love, I love the way the aggressiveness they played tonight. They rebounded the basketball tonight. They challenged every shot they got, every loose ball, the 50, 50 ball. That 85 that went to OKC tonight, it went to San Antonio. And that's the type, and that's the type of effort you're gonna have to take on the road. And you see the, you see the difference. Joe, you see the difference. When they don't. Every time, Shane look at somebody, they blow the whistle. You see this.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Yeah.
Host
You see the difference?
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
When he's shooting three, four free throws now, he's still, oh, he gonna, he gonna shoot a shot and fall.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
If I didn't know how to hell. I thought the snipers had got it, bro. Can you stay up? Why you keep falling every time you shoot the ball? He like one of them fighting goats. I'm like, well, damn. And look at this. They are. How many free throws? 12 free throws. Tonight they were 11 to 12. 92%. The other team, when. If you can keep them off the line. And they don't call every time because Shay. Shay's gonna sell everything.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Host
Say he has a store that sells everything. He doesn't have a. All I sell is veggies. All I sell is couches. All I. That joker sell auto parts. He sell couches. He sell hedges. He sell pro. It doesn't matter.
Chad Ochocinco
But notice the night. Notice tonight. Uncle Joe.
Host
As.
Chad Ochocinco
As physical as the game was, the ref held the whistle a little bit. The ref. Boys play ball. The game of basketball is physical. The game of basketball in the playoffs is even that much more physical. Now. We've seen the ref, you know, be a little. Be a little. A little whistle happy tonight. He letting the boys play until the fouls were egregious, and you have no choice but to call it.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey. And. And you got to get San Antonio a lot of credit, bro. They never let none of them OKC guys get into a rhythm.
Host
No.
Joe Johnson
You know what I mean? Hey, them boys guard and they physical. Like I said, man, you. You, you, you. They came home, did what they were supposed to do. Y' all ain't coming up in here and getting no damn win.
Host
No. You're not celebrating on our court.
Joe Johnson
Oh, no, sir. No, sir. It won't happen today.
Host
It was. Man, that was. That was a thing. That was a thing of beauty to watch. It was really a thing of beauty to watch. I thought the guys played extremely well. Yeah, you're right. Joe Fox did not have the greatest offensive game. But if you look at everybody else and what we say the difference was, Wimby has to cancel out those Two bigs. Yep. 10 points for Hardenstein. 10 points for Chet.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
16 rebounds. Wimby 28 points. 10 rebounds.
Joe Johnson
He won.
Host
Not everybody else. We can play.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
I've taken out you two guys. I've taken what? I've taken them, okay? Not Castle, Vassell, Harper, your guys are responsible for Chet and the next two guys.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Hey, if. If I'm. If I'm the head coach for OKC, just like Mitch said that women. Yama. 15. 15 shot attempts. One to know.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes, sir.
Joe Johnson
Man, check home. We got. He got eight shot of Tim's fellas. Four for eight. I mean, damn, he ain't even looking
Host
at the basket when Wendy on him. He ain't think about no damn basket.
Joe Johnson
He ain't, bro. He ain't. You gotta go at that, man. Bro, you gotta go.
Host
Look, see, you trying to marriage Joe. You think you slick that man throw the ball up in the stand and then you gonna come over here to my. Hey, oh, oh. You saw what Wimby did to chat,
Joe Johnson
man. Listen, bro, hey, somebody gotta come along, bro, and assert themselves, man. But hey, I felt it would be a lopsided win. I mean, San Antonio, they just understand. I know they're a young team, but being at home, they've been probably the second best team all year. And bro, this game seven is going to be a dog fight. Oh, my.
Host
It is.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, listen, it's going to be a dog fight. And obviously, I'm sure you, I mean, with you, both of you obviously picking the thunder to win this series. Can the spurs mustard up one more time? Can we get an aggressive, aggressive, wimping Yama on both, on both. On both sides of the guy, on both sides of the court offensively, defensively, can he continue to move being being able to play off the ball, being able to get the ball where he wants to on, on. On the elbow down in the block With Shet being as. As ineffective as he is offensively and not asserting himself in the game. We gonna be all right if we can hold Shay to another game like he did tonight, where he really wasn't much of a factor on the offense end.
Host
He's really never a factor. Ocho, it's the free throws. You go back and look at what is Chad, what is Shea shooting in this? Ocho, he probably shooting 40%.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
Or got his shot 53%. So they holding him somewhere between 13 and 15% of what he averaged in the regular season. They're doing an unbelievable job, but it's just hard to keep somebody under 20 points when they go to the free throw line 17 times.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Host
Because he makes 14, 15 of them. That's 15 points. He is hard to keep him from making at least six shots because he's going to get the ball up somewhere between 18 and 24 times in a game. So if he just makes six of those, plus another 14, 15 points at the free throw line, that's 27 right there. Yeah, he makes eight of those. That's 30. He's shooting less than 40% from the floor, shooting 39%.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, my goodness.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey. But you gotta understand, OKC? They gonna play. They gonna play a lot better at home. You know the thing for San Antonio, bro, if they make shots, hell they hard to beat. But you know, when you go into them low, especially on the road, and you got champagne and Versaille, who don't, you know, shoot the ball as great.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
And you need Win Binyama to be heroic. It's just, it's a lot, bro, on the road, you know, that's the thing. If they making shots, he look a damn good team. But if they ain't making shots ar oo on the road, it's gonna be hard to win, bro.
Host
Yeah, the question is, the problem that they have is that the spurs are going to have to suppress those runs. They cannot let them score 60 points in the half. They can't let them get to the 60, 65, Joe. That's too much. That's too much. Look at the games. I mean, there's been a couple of games, they've held them under 100. They got 94, got 91 tonight. One what they get the other night, they got what, 82, 83.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Host
But it's because they had him in the, the, the 40s, the 50s.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Host
If we keep the other night they had him at 31 before Wimy hit that half court shot, he had 38 points at the half tonight. What they have 50. What it like what, what OKC have at half? Maybe 50. Yeah, 53 to 60, something like that. You, you gotta. But see, they running the problem. You start letting them get 60, 65. Touching that 70.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
Nah, that's too many. They don't get now. They don't got into a rhythm. And again, it's still a make or mislead, Joe.
Joe Johnson
It is.
Host
Had some of the same shots that they were knocking down the other night, they missed.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, they missed. That's why.
Host
And that's what you're gonna have to have. You. You're going to have to have play outstanding defense, but you're going to have to have some of those guys miss some of those shots that they made in games 5. Same thing with the Spurs. Some of the shots that they missed the other night, they knocked down tonight. Yeah, Wimby, 10 rebounds. Look, I'll give OKC credit. They're doing a great job keeping him off the glass, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Yes, sir.
Host
If you think about it now, they finding him, putting the body on his ass, they get a lot of holy. Hey, you see the referee? No, we gotta stay here, man. Let the man go. Damn.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, you know you Know it plays a big factor too. Not Joe.
Joe Johnson
What's that?
Chad Ochocinco
You know, you see how the ref wave as a whole of wis from letting them boys play ball tonight that's gonna be played when they go back to okc. I think the refs are gonna play a big factor.
Host
They always do.
Chad Ochocinco
The refs are going to play a big factor. Especially with Shade not getting some of the calls he wanted tonight. You know, some of the failing in the shot, some of the shot selections that he did have tonight and he was probably, probably looking for a foul and it wasn't called. Those are going to be called once they playing back at home. So the refs are going to be a factor in this game. And I'm hoping, I'm hoping the spurs can do what they can defensively and try to contain him as much as they can. If you can't contain him, obviously he's going to make his shots. He's going to get to the free throw line. Obviously playing at home, can you contain everybody else?
Host
Well, you will know early on, Joe, how they're going to call the game.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
And then you're going to have to adjust accordingly. You can't let. Hey, they calling it early. You can't get mad in the second, in the second half that they're calling it the same way in the second half that they did in the first half. You're going to have to adjust. And look, I'm going to make them call. Look, if I'm Coach Johnson, I'm telling you, look, guys, I will need you to be aggressive, play your game. We're gonna see, let's see what how they call the game. Let's make them call a couple of them before we back off a little. Yeah, but until they call it, gotta keep.
Joe Johnson
Hey, you gotta be physical. Look, hey, everybody for the spurs was a plus tonight. Nobody had everybody, everybody for OKC here was a. Was a negative.
Host
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
You know what I mean?
Host
They would have shot. If fox doesn't go one for nine, hell, they might shoot, Joe. They might shoot on 50%. Cause you got four of eight. Wimy was a tick under 50%. 10 or 21. You got four or seven, five or 10, two or four. Two or three. One of two, four of seven, one of two, six of nine. So there, like I said. And Cornette gave us a little, gave us a couple of rebounds tonight. Yeah, they didn't get our rebounding tonight, Joe.
Joe Johnson
N. They didn't. They didn't.
Host
But you know what I love Joe? Them joker clashing the board. So you see okc, they try to get tipped.
Joe Johnson
Bam.
Host
You a. No, no. You get nothing cheap. Nothing cheap tonight baby.
Joe Johnson
Hey, them boys athletic man for San Antonio. My thing Uncle OO can they duplicate a performance like this on the road bro? In a game seven? I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm not sure. You know. I think Wimy can be great but due to him getting off to such a hot shooting start, you know, I think he kind of opened up the, opened up the game for him and his teammates. I just don't know if they could duplicate a performance like this on the road, bro.
Host
But I can I tell you gonna be fresh though. He only played 28 minutes. You got champagne. 25 Wimby 28 Fox 26 of a cell 26. Castle played the most men. I didn't know Castle was from the crib.
Joe Johnson
You didn't know that?
Host
Yeah, he from Newton County.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, that's why I was telling you.
Host
Yeah, he brought the crib. That's why I like it. That's why I like Castle.
Joe Johnson
Hey. Hey. Cause that, that I was, I was thinking about that last series when they was playing Minnesota. Him and ant man was going at it, you know, that's, that's, that's, that's a little Georgia thing right there. But okay, they, they, they definitely got the talent, man. They, they actually got the talent, Uncle Ojo, to, to win an NBA championship. I just don't know if they gonna be able to go on OKC on with a game seven and beat them boys. I, I don't see that cuz OKC
Host
has been in game sevens before.
Chad Ochocinco
That's okay.
Host
They would. They won NBA finals in a game seven. Yeah, the Western Conference finals in a game seven. They've been there, they're done that. They're battle tested. And sometimes it takes you a year because remember if they were favored to beat the Mavs. Yeah, yeah, they were a year away. They come back, learn from what they the mistakes that they made in the previous year and went through. Go ahead.
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Chad Ochocinco
you want I was going to tell y' all they gonna go and they gonna do it. The spurs gonna win game seven. Joe, you say you don't know if they can duplicate, but they just did tonight. I'm telling you ahead of time they gonna be able to do it. If you understand the game of basketball, which you should. I'm ashamed of you. I'm ashamed of both of y' all with the ball knowledge that you guys have over the years. Joe, you played the game at the highest level and the fact that I'VE proven all of you wrong all series long. Not just this series. All the previous series before this. And the fact that.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, man, don't try.
Chad Ochocinco
Don't try to go. Don't try to get on the bandwagon now, Joe, let me finish. Let me. I'm talking. Let me finish. Y' all get on here. You pray the spurs about the way they played tonight, and then you come right back behind that after praising the spurs, saying, I don't think they can do it in game seven. OkC.
Joe Johnson
Well, hey, Ojo, I'm just keeping it 100, brother. You know, this is just my observation. This is what I see.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes, sir.
Joe Johnson
I didn't think OKC could win in San Antonio in this game six. You know, understanding. You know, spurs is going to play a lot better at home.
Host
Yes, sir.
Joe Johnson
Those guys, you look at Champagne, you look at vasil. Yeah. That's 22 points amongst those two six threes. Like, they. They were making shots. When they make shots, they gonna be tough as hell to be. I just don't think they can go on OKC in a game seven. And everybody put up a. A performance like this. I. I don't see that.
Host
Even if they don't, Joe, look at the big difference. Vesel Castle, nine assists, one turnover.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
De' Aaron Fox, seven assists, zero turnovers.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
Champagne, two assists, one turnover. Dylan Harper, four assists, one turnovers. Even if they don't score, I just don't want you to turn the ball over and give them easy buckets in transition and get them into a rhythm.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes.
Host
The likelihood, Joe, you're right. The likelihood of those guys going to see. That's nine for 17. That's 13 for 25. Champagne, Versaille, Castle shot over 50%. Those three guys. Those guys made. Made six. They made six of 13. Six and 15. Three. And then Dylan Harper was tremendous tonight. Dylan Harper was two or three, nine from the floor if they don't turn the ball over. If you go back and look at the spurs, when they get in trouble, they turn the ball over in bunches. And it's not just. It's not one here. And then four or five possessions later, it's a turnover. It's a turnover. It's a turnover. Because they had three in succession in the first half, Joe. Like, just like this.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Host
I was like, come on, guys.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Hey, hey. And you got to get OKC credit, man. Like, it's like we've been saying, these are two great defensive team, probably two best defensive teams in the NBA. If we just keeping it real. And I think okc, obviously, we know they thrive off turnovers, but they gonna play a lot better in this game seven at home, fellas. Yeah, they gonna play a lot better.
Host
But I think the biggest difference between OKC, what we saw, OKC tonight, and OKC in Game 7 is the ability to make those shots, man. That's the thing, Joe. I mean, come on now. Joe Shay's shooting right now. He's shooting 38. Oh, he's shooting 38 without the free shows, huh?
Joe Johnson
Oh, yes. They got him. They got him bottled up, man. They making him. Like I told y', all, man, they making him take and make these tough ass tools and it's challenging. And then you see him try to shoot these long threes. That's just not his game, bro. No, you know, his game is getting, getting to his spots, pulling up Midis, getting to the rack. And with. With San Antonio here, with Wimble, with Win Bigyama down there, you ain't getting to no damn wreck.
Host
No.
Joe Johnson
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you gonna. You ain't gonna be able to shoot your normal shots. You know what I'm saying? Like, you gotta shoot. You gotta put a little more touch on it. You gotta shoot a little farther out. Like, I think they doing a great job in playing and gardening. I'm giving a lot of credit to Castle and the crew. Who's taking the challenge. Who's taking the challenge and being like, look, I don't need a whole lot of damn help. I'm gonna keep him in front. I'm gonna challenge them. I'm making take tough shots. And they've done that all series long, bro. They a hell of a defensive team.
Host
Look, anytime they see Wimby down there, everybody, everybody from okc, when they see women to paint, they have a John Q moment. They have a change of heart. Hey, I'm going to the real. No, I'm good. Come on. Hey, hey.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
Everybody goes home. Hey, when they, When Wendy go out, they see Cornet. Come on, guys.
Joe Johnson
Come on.
Host
Come on, let's go. Fact they see Wimby slow it down.
Joe Johnson
Yes, sir.
Host
Cause that ain't what you want.
Joe Johnson
No, no, no.
Host
I mean, they do a great job of trying to shield him off. You know, they try to block him off when somebody's trying to drive the ball so he can't get to it. But if he, when he slips around,
Chad Ochocinco
hey, he gonna send it right into the stand.
Host
They throw it right back out.
Joe Johnson
He too much, bro. He too much. He is the human cheat code. And when he has it going, fellas, when he's making shots, knocking down them long threes, getting to the basket, being decisive in his moves, I ain't gonna lie to you. They're. They're a hell of a team, bro. They're a hell of a team.
Host
But I thought sometime tonight, Joe, they had him bottled up and, and, and they helped a little bit too much. And he kicked for an Oprah 3. It's okay. Look, if he gonna make those touch ups, I understand. Our defense is set up. When there's an opportunity, he comes close. Let, let's, you know, let's double him. But there are some situations like that where he have it going. No, let's not over. Because sometimes you could overreact.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Host
And I thought tonight there were a couple occasions, not many, because I thought San Antonio was exemplary tonight.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
But I did think there were a couple occasions just watching the game, Joe, that they overreacted and he was able to kick for some wide open threes.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I agree, I agree.
Host
And the difference is on the Road 3 and At Home 3, the crowd
Joe Johnson
is going to go crazy, man.
Host
That crowd is going to be in a frenzy.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
And teams feed off that. They feed, feed off that.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
And the question is, when they start to go and they go on a little run, they go on a 5 nothing run. They go on a 7 nothing run. Can you remain calm?
Joe Johnson
You're right. Right.
Host
Can you remain calm and be unbothered?
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, y' all gonna be real upset, but when Game seven, huh? When? Game seven?
Host
Saturday.
Joe Johnson
Saturday.
Host
Saturday.
Chad Ochocinco
Y' all gonna be mad. Let me tell you how good Saturday gonna be though, huh? You hear me?
Joe Johnson
Talk to me.
Chad Ochocinco
Not only. Let me tell you what we got Saturday. We got game seven Saturday, right?
Host
Yes.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, we got the fight. Foster and Ray4 Saturday, too. I'm. Now, y' all know I know you. I know you in the boxing, so I don't know how much you love boxing.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Let me tell you what else we got Saturday.
Joe Johnson
What's that?
Co-host
What?
Chad Ochocinco
We got the Champions League final Saturday, too, huh? We got so much stuff to talk about. Listen, the icing on the cake. The icing on the cake is the boxing match.
Host
I like bunt cakes.
Chad Ochocinco
The who?
Host
I like bunt cakes like B U
Joe Johnson
T T. Oh, here you go.
Host
See, I said, hold on.
Chad Ochocinco
I promise you, I promise you. I'm not even playing around. I've never heard any. Anything called bunt cake. B U B U T T or B U n t. Which one? That must be something. That must be something. I've never heard of that before. Hey, Joe, you ever heard of bunker?
Host
Not as mad chat not his man ain't never heard of a bun cake.
Joe Johnson
I ain't never heard of it. But I didn't think he was saying butt cake. I didn't think.
Chad Ochocinco
I mean. My point exactly. If you've never heard of it, bunt cake, the first thing you think is. But because you've heard butt all the time.
Host
It depends on where you n d t bunt.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, but, hey, I ain't never heard of that. Now, like that. Let me go.
Host
Hey, hey, when you.
Joe Johnson
When. When you're a big freak, you.
Host
You know, you.
Joe Johnson
You have a tendency to hear.
Host
Yeah, you. Yeah, you hear things, and you. Everything that you hear is basically in a sexual connotation.
Joe Johnson
There you go.
Host
You're right, Joe. My bad, my bad. I should have been a little bit more specific.
Joe Johnson
There you go.
Host
Listen, y', all, we were talking about cake, and, you know, people refer to that as cake also. Yeah, so he was. My bad. That's on me, Chad. No, no, no, that's on me.
Chad Ochocinco
That's not on you. Because that was an honest mistake on. That's an honest mistake.
Host
Ain't no. Ain't nothing.
Chad Ochocinco
Listen, you just heard Joe say he's never heard of that as well, so therefore, the first thing when you. When I hear B, I think of.
Joe Johnson
But we already know.
Host
We already know what you're thinking about. But I didn't say nothing about. No, but I said bunt.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, but it's harmless on my part,
Host
being that I know it ain't nothing harmless about you.
Chad Ochocinco
There's no such thing as a bun cake, Joe. You said it yourself. You never heard that. So.
Host
But what you mean, ain't no such thing as a bunt cake, I guarantee you. You probably just didn't know what it was called. Just Google bun cake. So you can see what it looks like and you can say, yeah, I don't have. I don't have one of those. I don't have a piece of one of those.
Chad Ochocinco
If I had some before, I remember the name of it. I never heard of it.
Host
No, you wouldn't.
Chad Ochocinco
I promise you.
Host
You know what? You know what?
Chad Ochocinco
You know what? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm man enough to say, okay, what's
Joe Johnson
that, like a little pound cake or something?
Host
Yes, yes.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
You ain't just say pound cake, man,
Host
because it's not a. Look, normally
Chad Ochocinco
the scientific word.
Host
Cake See what I'm saying, Chad? This is what I got to deal with. Just say pound cake, because he trying to be fancy. Now they start. Do they drizzle? Do drizzle frosting? Most of the time, Pound cakes do not bunt cakes. And for the longest time, I don't remember when I was growing up ever seeing a bunt cake with frosting. But now they, you know, they come a long way and they add. Spice it up. They put frosting. They drilled a frosting on the top of a bunt cake.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, but there you go. Hey, hey, hey.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, just say, listen. They put drizzle on the top of pound cake. If you're saying pound cake, I'd be like, yeah, you know what? My grandma used to love pound cake. He used to always get pound cake from Publix.
Joe Johnson
Hey. Oh, hey. When they used to make them pound cakes at the house, they tell you, don't be stomping and making. And.
Host
And they make it fall
Joe Johnson
and make it right.
Host
Hey, boy, get your ass over, sit down and go outside, man. You make that follow. You want to granny boy bear party. Go have your ass.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Host
I know exactly what you're talking about, Joe.
Joe Johnson
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Host
is brought to you by Tommy John's Where Comfort is the new power move. Tonight's power move was by Wimby, who was asked, asked why the spurs are built for big moments, he responded, I can't answer why, we just are, but we ain't done nothing yet. We did what we needed to do. Trusted the game, trusted the basketball gods, man.
Joe Johnson
Listen, the boy special, I ain't gonna lie to y'. All. I. I think for me, when he's assertive and he makes it to where you have to double him, like, like you say, I thought OKC got a little overzealous tonight and bringing the double too fast sometimes. But he gonna pick you apart, bro. He gonna make the right play. He's rarely. He's rarely gonna do something out of character, you know? Yeah, we talk about a lot of them long threes his ass be shooting, but, man, if he making them, hey, and he got it going, it's hard to slow him down. It ain't nothing Hardenstein and Check can do when he out there dribbling, getting into his rhythm, it ain't nothing they can do, bro.
Host
But see, Joe, when he sets up a little closer, it's easier for him to get to the assist because now the double team has to come because he's much closer to the basket. And so now he's able to find because he's so tall, he can pass right corner Left corner or when they come. For wherever the double team comes, he knows who's guarding who. He knows where the double team come. Now, I can find the open guy, but when he's setting up at the three point line, when he's got a guy on his back and he's 26ft away, I ain't bringing no damn double team.
Joe Johnson
Hell, no. No. Now, I think. I think the closer he is to the basket is better for him because one dribble, Hell, he at the rim, fellas. He ain't got to take no more than one dribble. All it take is one power dribble. He's going to his move, whether it's a spin or he gonna attack his man. He at the rim. Hell, you ain't blocking it. Yeah, you ain't blocking it, bro.
Host
He did you see him tonight, Joe? They gave him on the fast break. That Joe took one dribble at one dribble from the top of the key and shot a little floater. I let one day, I mean, from the three. He took one dribble from the three point line. It was at the end of that day.
Joe Johnson
I'm real. Hey, you don't see. I. I like the floater that he shot in the lane. You don't see guys that big, bro.
Host
No.
Joe Johnson
Who had that type of touch. Like, he has a nice touch for a guy who's 7 5. I'm talking about, they can virtually do any and everything on the court. If he is making shots, he is over. Impossible to guard. Impossible.
Host
He is. And, but, and plus, the thing is, Joe, the problem that OKC is having is that he's resting on defense.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
Because nobody will challenge him.
Joe Johnson
Nope.
Host
Chad don't want. No, Chad is not even looking at the damn basket if Wimby is on it.
Joe Johnson
He ain't, bro.
Host
He ain't looking. He's looking. The handoff off, he.
Joe Johnson
You're right. You're right.
Host
I'm like, well, damn, John Elway.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey. He don't want this smoke. What he supposed to do with that damn, boy? That boy slapping that ball back in his face when he tried to shoot.
Host
Exactly. Exactly. And. And that. And that is the problem when you got somebody like that, Joe, you got to. You can't let him use all his resources on the offensive end. You got to zap some of that out of him.
Joe Johnson
It's just hard, man. It is like, I. I agree with you. And that's why I talk about Chick a lot. Meaning, like, if he could make that next step OKC would be a dynasty. But damn, he ain't even. He's not being assertive enough to even give him a real fighting chance on the road, bro. Like so I, I hope, I hope he takes the initiative in game seven to come out, guns are blazing, going at his man. Hey man, this is it. This is to go back to the finals. You gotta lock in partner.
Chad Ochocinco
And you can lock in all you want. You think the spurs don't. Ain't gonna lock in? You think we not gonna go into the, into the, into the Thunder's home and, and wipe our feet on the rug? You, you don't think that's what's gonna happen? You don't think they feel the same way?
Host
I think the thing is that look, and I don't want. I never diminish winning a championship. But there have been a lot of teams that's won run in a row. You trying to be special.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
You're trying to be thought of as historically great teams. Joe. You got to go back to back. Yeah, you've got to go. You've got. I mean obviously the three piece are so rare. It doesn't happen that often. Yeah, you got Shaq. You got Shaq and Kobe, Lakers, you got Jordan did it twice. And then you got the, the Celtics that won eight in a row.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
But it doesn't happen often. That's why they're there. You look at, I mean to get even the repeats needs is rare because you have to run the gauntlet because the last season is so different than this season. And you get injuries. Yeah, you get, I mean, and that's the thing is to be able to withstand those injuries.
Joe Johnson
And you're the standard. You have a target on your back. Everybody, you're gonna get everybody's best game. You know, when you're the champion, you're
Host
the measuring stick, Joe.
Joe Johnson
That's. That's it. We gonna see what we what we stack up against the, the champs and we're gonna see. And we're gonna see what, what happens. So. I think it's hard, man. It's hard to go back to back. Obviously. I. I think due to the bullseye that's on your back and teams chasing you, trying to knock you off your pedestal. So we'll see if OKC got it, bro. We'll see what they got. Game 7. I'm rooting for them. Hopefully they come through because you know
Host
what I tell them because everybody that you played, you're the measuring stick. And they say, see, that's the team they. They the defending champs. They got the two time league MVP and we just beat them.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
You see, when we lock in like that, when we're attended to, what we need to attend to, when we take care of our business, we can beat anybody in this league. So they get you, get measured by all of that.
Joe Johnson
Yep, yep.
Host
See, you don't get to have an off game. You better be on your best behavior because everybody is looking at you. They circle that. Oh, man, the champs come to town.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
That is the difference from being from hunting to being hunted.
Joe Johnson
Hunted. Yep.
Host
Right now, okc, they're being hunted.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
They're no longer hunters. They. They were chased. They were after something last year.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
And it's hard to stay. It's hard because you got to be on your best behavior every single game because you're going to get everybody's best shot. Everybody. Because they measure you. You the quarterback. The quarterback going against Ocho. Man, if I can get. Hey, I get me a couple of PBUs. Hey, hey, I get me a pick, man, people go, look at me different. Hey, I hold Joe to 5, 10 points up on his average. Okay? People go, hey, that's how they look at it.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Host
Somebody blocked Jordan shot. When Jordan second year to leave, he telling his grandkids, man, man, that joker went up to take a shot, man, I threw that thing in the stand. That was just a tip. But you know, hey, I. The one thing we gonna do as we start to age, we're gonna add yeast to something. We're gonna make it grow.
Chad Ochocinco
Exaggerated. Exactly.
Host
We gonna make it grow.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We. Hey, hey. Won't mind embellishing something and make it sound a whole lot better than really what it was.
Host
Yeah, I planted a pine tree, but when I tell the story, it's a redwood. It's redwood, Joe. That thing.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Host
But my thing is when I watch San Antonio and watching them in the playoffs, catching them here and there, because I wanted to see Wimby. When they don't turn the ball over, Joe, I don't give a damn who they play or where they play. They are a very, very, very difficult team to beat. When they turn the ball over, they become very, very average, though.
Joe Johnson
Yep, yep.
Host
That's just the way it is.
Joe Johnson
And on the road, on the road with this young San Antonio team,
Host
I
Joe Johnson
don't know if they gonna duplicate a performance of where they take care of the ball like this tonight. I mean, pretty much Fox didn't have no turnovers. Castle, y' all know. Hell, he probably averaging 8, 8, 9 turnovers.
Host
He averaged about 5 a game. How many turnovers? Capsule average. But. But you. He had 20, and then he had another game with two. So he's averaging at least five.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, whoa, whoa. He's averaging five. He's had games. He's had nine. But what did he have tonight?
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
One.
Host
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Repeat this one more game. That's all. That's all it is. Can you protect the game one more time? Can you protect the ball one more time? I'm sure. I'm sure. Everything we talking about, coaches in their locker room telling them, fellas, fellas. Even though we going to their home. Their home court in their stadium. Arena. Excuse me. It's basketball. It's called can we duplicate what we did tonight? And I don't like the fact that Unc say, you know, the spurs are chasing the Thunder. I don't like that. I know the Thunder may be the measuring stick, and the spurs ain't paying that. No, man, they already knew, and then they already knew coming in, man. This is our series. I told you how it would play out, and it's playing out exactly how I said it would.
Joe Johnson
Well, listen.
Chad Ochocinco
Don't listen, Joe. The only reason it's going to Game 7 because the NBA got bills to pay.
Joe Johnson
No, no, no. That ain't why it's going game seven, because you got two teams battling their ass.
Host
It's a very good team.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah. But I think home court advantage will play a major part in this.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes, sir.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, it definitely will. Definitely will.
Chad Ochocinco
I see y'.
Host
All, we're gonna find out. Is it gonna be. Is it gonna be Scott Foster? He can't extend it no more, Joe. Is it gonna be.
Joe Johnson
I don't know, man.
Host
Hey. What?
Chad Ochocinco
What? Tony.
Host
We're gonna be marked.
Chad Ochocinco
Tony. Brothers can't do it again tonight, huh?
Host
Tony. Tony called up ref the other night. He might. I don't know.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, Zach had it tonight.
Host
I don't know if it's gonna be Josh Tibbet.
Chad Ochocinco
They should be able to choose who they want to ref, man.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hold on. The. The question is. The question is, if you. The New York Knicks, who do you want to play? I mean, if you ask them, they probably gonna say it don't matter. But realistically, who would you want to play if you. The Knicks, probably.
Host
I think all things being equal, I think they probably say San Antonio. I think so.
Joe Johnson
Why? Because they young.
Host
They're young. They beat them in. They. They feel they got the recipe. They blew them out. Into what you call them, the, the NBA Cup.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
That NBA cup in the seven game series is completely different. So you, you think, you think about, you know, it all come down to matchups, huh? Yeah, down to matchups. How well can they defend in having to deal with Wimby?
Host
Well, I feel they got too many bodies they can throw at it.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. I think they would prefer playing the Thunder, even though that won't be the team they're playing in the finals. I think they would prefer, I think it would be a better matchup for them stylistically, you know, the Knicks playing and playing the Thunder. But I mean, obviously they're gonna have to play the spurs either way.
Joe Johnson
I just think the spurs are a different team from the last time the Knicks played them in that cup, you know, but obviously both teams are different here. I just think, yeah,
Host
Knicks are playing extremely well. I mean, extreme joe, last 11 games, the way they beating the hell out of people, Joe.
Joe Johnson
I mean, I know, man, we, we,
Host
we make, we crack jokes about, you know, Atlanta.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
But they blew the 76ers out. They blew the Cavaliers out. They're probably in the last 11 games, they probably average margin of victory might be damn near 20 points a game.
Joe Johnson
You're absolutely right.
Host
More.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. They've been dog walking forward.
Host
Yes. It ain't even been close. It's been interesting.
Joe Johnson
That ain't. That ain't gonna happen in this, in this finals, fellas. I'm sorry.
Host
Somebody. And make them quit. They beat teams and make them quit. They made them quit. Made them just like, you know what.
Chad Ochocinco
Damn.
Host
We got another 30 minutes. Let's try to make this look good.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, because they beat you. They beat you by committee, bro. They got a lot of guys, you know, who chip in and been playing great basketball. Obviously, Brunson has been great, but I, I think they whole team has been, you know, hitting on all cylinders. Hell, they swept their last two rounds. Them folks ain't even had no test. Hell, yes.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm glad.
Host
Yes, too.
Chad Ochocinco
So what you think gonna happen in the finals? Matter of fact, I'm. I'm just gonna be honest with you. With all due respect to the stunt, all due respect to the spurs and how they look, you know, the series, I mean, Nixon six, you hear me?
Joe Johnson
Oh, man,
Chad Ochocinco
I'm telling you right now, New York, New York City is going to be turned upside down. I'm telling you ahead of time. I hope nypd, I hope the fire department in New York, they are ready. What is going to happen after game six? Nixon six. Now, don't get out here and saying all these excuses on. On why it happened or what they didn't do and why the Knicks were able to win. I'm telling you ahead of time, if you're a bet man. If you're a bet man, if you're in debt, you need to make up some money.
Joe Johnson
I don't. I don't. I don't want you to be right, Ocho.
Host
I ain't gonna lie to you, Joe.
Chad Ochocinco
You ain't want me, Joe. You ain't want me to be right the entire playoffs. And I've been right the entire time.
Host
And the fact that right now it doesn't. Ocho, right now the sports book would have the Knicks as underdogs versus either team.
Chad Ochocinco
That's fine, but the. The sports book don't know.
Host
Both teams to have home court advantage.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Sportsbook don't know ball like me.
Host
All I know is they keep breaking in lots and lots of money.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Hello. They.
Host
I ain't never seen nobody build a. A 7 billion dollar house with Werner's money.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey. I'm with you when you're right.
Host
Damn Bad Ty Lawson had a hell of a tweet today, guys. He said four things I would rather do than be a. A Thunder fan. Check this out. Number one, I'd rather play hide and go seek with Jeffrey Dahmer in an abandoned Chuck E. Cheese.
Joe Johnson
What?
Host
Be a teemu. Parachute tester. I'd rather stick my me in a blender. What? And last but not least, he said, I'd rather look a party potty tart and see that Coachella.
Chad Ochocinco
Coachella.
Joe Johnson
He got a chair with that bill.
Host
Stunned effect. Good.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey.
Host
He said y' all some losers.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, is this. Is this AI or did he really tweet this out?
Host
It's real. That man said he'd rather lick a porta potty toilet seat at Coachella.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, but you know how nasty that is at Coachella.
Host
Boy, he might die on the spot.
Joe Johnson
Damn.
Host
I know. First of all, the D man. Porta potties. Lord have mercy. Oh, man, but can you imagine that Coachella?
Joe Johnson
No.
Host
15,000 asses.
Joe Johnson
Oh. Oh, man. Come on. Come on.
Host
God dang.
Joe Johnson
Everybody, man say that, man.
Host
He said that's what he'd rather do than be a Thunder fan.
Joe Johnson
Wow.
Chad Ochocinco
What's with his. His disliking for the Thunder?
Host
He say y' all some losers. Don't get me to start. No. I don't know where this ain't come
Chad Ochocinco
from, what type Lawson played at Joe.
Joe Johnson
He Played in Denver.
Host
He played. He played with the Nuggets. He went to unc. Won a national championship with the Tar Heels.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Why does he hate the Thunder so much?
Joe Johnson
I have no idea, Ocho.
Host
It don't a lot of players.
Chad Ochocinco
It got to be a backstory to it.
Joe Johnson
Not like this. Not like this. Where you put this up there? Come on, man. You gonna lick a damn Porta Potter and Coachella.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, that's crazy.
Joe Johnson
Sticky Johnson in a blender. Come on, man.
Host
Hey, Joe, while you bull driving, there's some people that hate people worse than that.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah. Damn.
Chad Ochocinco
Damn. That's crazy.
Joe Johnson
That's just.
Chad Ochocinco
That's not even crazy joke. That sound more personal than anything.
Joe Johnson
I don't know why, though. I don't know why.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, it's a backstory.
Host
As long as you don't eat or drink nothing from Jeffrey Dahmer, you're gonna be okay. You drink something. Good night, Irene.
Chad Ochocinco
He said it abandoned Chuck E. Cheese at that.
Host
Yeah, I got. What you call it? I got, you know, I got one of my restaurant style blenders, you know, I'm trying to hold on to. You know, I'm trying to hold on to it, you know? Yeah, they gonna ride for about 10 more summers, so I ain't gonna do nothing to harm it. You don't use it? Oh, yeah, I use it. Yeah, I was talking about, you know, the baby arm joke.
Joe Johnson
Oh, okay, okay. All right.
Host
I said that it ain't gonna ride about 10 more summers. I think I got 10 more summers in it. Then he be out the pasture. Oh, I use the blender. I bought me some collagen protein powder today, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Oh, did you? College is good for you, huh?
Host
I know.
Joe Johnson
Wait, so who I know Ocho don't know about no damn collagen.
Host
I used to take it. I used to take a lot of. When I played.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey, Joe. Here, y', all, y', all, y'.
Host
All.
Chad Ochocinco
Here y' all go talking about stuff I don't know nothing about. First it was the pig.
Host
Well, you don't know about the bunk cake, so I know you don't know about no damn collagen.
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on now. Now we talk about collagen. Now, what does collagen do for you? Yeah, what can you do for me?
Host
Skin, Hair, nails. Oh, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, you know, my skin. Nice. Now you.
Joe Johnson
Huh?
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, I mean, I'm just. I'm just saying, like my baby, she said when she touched my skin, it feel like. Like infant, you know, when you touch a baby now, softer baby is.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, that's how my skin is. I don't know. I ain't got no blemishes.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. What'd you say? Oh, it ain't. What.
Host
You can't grow no hair, though.
Chad Ochocinco
Maybe that's why my skin's so soft, because I can't grow no hair.
Host
It should be. The follicle should be able to break through.
Joe Johnson
Oh, no. Yeah, it's old way for that.
Host
Yeah. That thing said like a rose trying to go through concrete. Ain't happening.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, honestly, I think I could. And I told you, you cannot.
Host
The reason I had this conversation. I know, but I bet me that I couldn't grow no beard. You talk about your man, your thing. It won't connect. It's gonna be all splotchy.
Chad Ochocinco
I know, but my. Mine is. Mine grows in pageant. Joe, when I grow my beard.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
I have to. I have to let it grow for three to four months and. And it's. And it's still patchy. I don't like the holes when it. When it's not full, I want it full. So if anything, if I want to get a beard, I'd rather get a lace front, you know, from the barbershop where they put it on.
Host
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
And, you know, and just put the Beijing on the edges to make it look like. Make it look real sharp. I do it. I wouldn't trip, you know? You know, I don't care.
Joe Johnson
I wouldn't. I wouldn't see it.
Host
I mean, you got to treat it just like. I mean, you got to wash it, you got to condition it.
Chad Ochocinco
I ain't got the patience for that. I ain't got the patience for.
Host
You got that for your face, huh?
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah.
Host
Wash your face. You do all that kind of stuff on your face?
Chad Ochocinco
Wait a minute. Stay. Stay with me real quick. Hey, let me tell you how. How easy my. My facial routine is. All I use is black soap. You ever heard of Fair and White black soap?
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
Nope.
Chad Ochocinco
I use Fair and White black soap. I get it out the hood from the beauty supply store. So when I take a shower. Take a shower with my Dial bar soap. Then when I'm done with that, I do my face. I hit my face, you know, with my Fair and White black soap. That's it. I'm done brushing.
Host
Heard about Black and white cookies?
Chad Ochocinco
Come again?
Host
I don't know. Heard anything about Black and White cookies.
Chad Ochocinco
You don't know about Fair and White black soap?
Host
I don't.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, you ain't.
Host
But, Joe, all you gotta do is shampoo and Condition it. Twice a week, when you're in the shower, you shampoo it up, scrub it through, wash it out, put the condition in there. While you got the condition in there, there. Soap your body up.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
Come up out of there now, put the oil on before you go. And you had to do.
Chad Ochocinco
That's about another 30 minutes. Man, you didn't hear everything. Everything I just said is. Is in. Isn't one.
Host
Boom.
Chad Ochocinco
Shower, face, body.
Host
Man, look here. You in there for 30 minutes. I mean, you try. You doing something else other than shower.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm just saying, the entire routine.
Host
And there's nothing wrong with that either, either.
Joe Johnson
Don't, don't. Don't put nothing past him now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, see. See. See how y' all going left? See how y' all going to left field.
Joe Johnson
What you mean?
Chad Ochocinco
I'm being. I'm being straight up about my routine. Getting in the shower, getting dressed.
Host
We know your routine.
Chad Ochocinco
Huh?
Host
We know your routine.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay?
Host
Synced it, heard about it. Don't put nothing past you. Hey.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Ojo. How y' all do today, bro?
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, man, we lost the club. America, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Y' all play one game, huh? Y' all only played one game today.
Chad Ochocinco
We only played one game today, Joe. Man, they sent us home, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, they sent us home, Joe. It. It hurt, Joe. It hurt. It hurt.
Host
Hey, check this out. Hey, Joe, look at the map, O. Joe. Look who America rooting for.
Joe Johnson
Wow.
Chad Ochocinco
Nah, nah, nah.
Joe Johnson
This ain't real.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, somebody made that. Who made that up? A Thunder fan.
Host
A Denver fan.
Joe Johnson
Nah, that ain't real, bro.
Host
Just Oklahoma. People hate the Thunder, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Why, though?
Chad Ochocinco
Because they win.
Host
It's hard to watch all that damn flopping. That flopping.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, aren't you seeing all the complaining
Host
people like James Harden, but people didn't like watching him play or with that foul baiting joke.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot. I forgot who just wrote somebody's hard to watch. It's hard to watch.
Host
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, I mean, outside of the popping, do we. Do we understand how good the two time MVP player is?
Host
Good, Ocho. People look at him like, bro, you so good. Why you got to do.
Chad Ochocinco
All gotta do that. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's become part of the game, huh, Joe? It's become part of the game. There are very few players that can manipulate the game like that offensively to be able to get those calls.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
Hey, Ocho, you remember when. When Brady was playing and he'd be begging the officials and people like Brady, you too good. Why you gotta Beg the fisher for a call.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, my homes do that too sometimes too.
Host
They fall all out. Brady would run down the field and be all in the guy face when he went through a flag.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I, I don't,
Host
I don't think there's a whole lot of people out there that really, really love okc. See, they're a great team. Don't take anything away from them. They got, they got Shade, the two time reigning mvp and they hard to watch. And he hard to watch. I like watching them. They play defense, they play the right way, they play for one another. There's nothing, not like, there's nothing to not like about them other than, hey, I had tried to see the guy shoot 15 free throws a game. I'm just not.
Joe Johnson
No, no, no, no.
Host
Should have shot 15 free throws a game with Shaq.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think when you, when you win so damn much, fellas, y' all know people get tired of that. They get tired. They, they.
Host
I can see Joe, if they'd put like three of them things together, they ain't one but one year.
Joe Johnson
I know, but the fact that Shay is a two time mvp.
Host
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
You know, and then they, they see how efficient, you know, he's been over the years.
Co-host
Yes.
Joe Johnson
They've been comparing him, putting him in the same sentence with Michael Jordan.
Chad Ochocinco
Find something wrong with it?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, got to. Of course.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hold on, hold on, Joe. When Michael Jordan played and he decided to put the ball afloat and go to the rack, did he feel it? Did he flare like that at all?
Joe Johnson
No, hell no. He was going over the top of your ass.
Host
No, they snatched his ass out the sky. For real?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, they did. They did.
Host
Hey, no, no, no, no, no, no. When you, when you got, when you got filed, when they say a hard foul, now you got a hard ass that they put on your ass in the 80s and 90s. Those are flagrant ones now.
Joe Johnson
Yes, sir.
Host
Maybe up two.
Joe Johnson
No doubt. It ain't even question. Yeah. You get your head kicked out the game.
Host
Oh yeah. Defile somebody like they did back in the day. Oh yeah, you getting up out of there. They're not living let you do that. And. But David Stern understood. People didn't come to see. And people like, oh man, that's, that's basically. No, it wasn't just because you physical, that doesn't mean it's a great brand of basketball. Right, right. Basketball is supposed to be free moving and you ain't supposed to be tackling people out there clotheslining people Running people over. But people, but people have equated that because that's what they grew up watching. And so they think that is a great band, a great brand of basketball.
Joe Johnson
Right, right, right.
Host
Just because you're physical. I disagree. But hey, to each his own. You like what you like.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host
But no, Jordan did not fly like that. Guys didn't flop like that.
Joe Johnson
Hell no.
Host
Because if you did and you drew a file on them, oh, they gonna give you something to flop about next time. Oh, you really. Oh, you gonna really get an elbow in your damn back.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, because you could touch, you could touch them. You can touch them back in the day, you know what I mean? You can hand check. You could be physical. Now I, I think with, with the modern guys today, they know you ain't supposed to put your damn hands on them. So every time you touch them, that's why you see them heads go back and you see guys flailing, trying to get the whistle. Yeah. Hey, hey, especially you better touch a
Host
guy and he jumping.
Joe Johnson
He.
Host
He damn near going up in the stands, up under the basket, Joe. Man, I watch women. They hit, they touch. Women be like, I was like, come on, women.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Yeah. You gotta sell it.
Host
Oh, you gotta sell it. Definitely it. They definitely be selling it, Joe. And I think, I think that's, that's what the fans, the fans don't, don't really like that brand of basketball because it's hard to argue he's bro, the guy's a two time mvp. They ain't a whole lot of. I mean, there only been what, 10 back to back MVPs? I think 10.
Joe Johnson
That's it.
Host
I think you go Russell Chamberlain, Kareem.
Joe Johnson
I know. Nash.
Host
One Magic Bird. Nash Braun. It ain't been many, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, that's hard, bro. Yeah, that's a tough feat, bro, to be a back to back MVP in the NBA. Like, bro, that's, that's. You got to be special. You got to be special.
Host
Chamberlain, Kareem did it twice. Bird, Magic,
Chad Ochocinco
LeBron.
Host
It's been 10. I think you look it up. I think it's been 10. Why do I want to say 10? I think it's been 10.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey, Joe.
Joe Johnson
What's happening, boy?
Chad Ochocinco
You got your colleagues on your side, boy, what happened? I, you know, we had Chris Paul on my soccer pack soccer podcast today. We had him on the late run.
Joe Johnson
Oh yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Down here north. Down here. Down here in North Carolina.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, my guy obviously, you know, he
Chad Ochocinco
said he, we obviously he's a fan of the show. Uncle told Me to tell you hello. And the first thing he brought up was me and you going at it about playing one on one. So I asked Chris, you know, Curry, I say, honestly, you know, when I play Joe, you know, on a scale of 1 to 10, what's my chances of scoring? You know, if you're going to let me get maybe three, three to five points, man, Chris was like, man, shoot by zero.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey. One thing you could. One thing you can respect is that he kept it 100 with you. Damn sure didn't lie.
Chad Ochocinco
Although not only did he keep it 100, he told me exactly what you were going to do to be able to create space. And the different. The difference in. Once you raise up. And because of your height, I wouldn't be able to get to the ball. Well, listen, I'm not gonna give him no room to move. He said, well, that's fine. If you don't get no room to move, he gonna move you himself.
Host
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
First thing he brought up was you lowering the shoulders just a little bit. Yeah, like, hello, dude.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
A little bit of space.
Host
Space, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
And now he said, that's all.
Joe Johnson
That's it. That's it. That's it. Hey, look, look, I'm glad. I'm glad you wouldn't done some homework, but that ain't gonna help you.
Chad Ochocinco
I hear you.
Host
Listen, that demo, too late now, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Oh, hell yeah, it's too late.
Chad Ochocinco
Let me tell you something. When I broke down the moves that Joe likes to do based on what side of the court he's on, what dribbles he likes to do to execute, which shot, what his shot selection looks like, depending on where he is. I'm good. I'm good. Because he's gonna do the same thing when we play. I done studied this big three footage, okay? Boom. When he had the elbow, this we like to go. When he's at the 3, this we like to do, huh? Hey, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, hey.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm gonna be in your back pocket, you hear me?
Joe Johnson
Hey, I got. I got a lot of stuff in this bag over here, Ojo. I'm just telling you.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, one thing about it. Regardless of what your toolbox got, huh? I got the answer for it.
Joe Johnson
You hear me? Okay. Yeah. All right.
Host
The most recent ones, Giannis went back. Shay back to back. Giannis back to back. Jokic back to back. Curry back to back. Braun back to back. That's five right there. And Magic back to back. Bird won three in a row. Moses Malone back to back. Kareem back to back.
Joe Johnson
Chamberlain Russell Boy in some good company man. Let's go OKC Game seven baby. It's time to rise up.
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Podcast: Nightcap (Shay Shay Media & Playmaker)
Episode Date: May 29, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”), Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (“Ocho”), Joe Johnson ("ISO Joe")
The Nightcap crew delivers their trademark unfiltered banter and in-depth analysis right after another dramatic NBA Western Conference Finals Game 6, as the Spurs routed the Thunder 118-91. The focus is on Victor Wembanyama's (“Wemby”) historic performance, what this dominant win means heading into Game 7, and the pivotal adjustments and narratives as both teams vie for a shot at the Knicks in the NBA Finals. The episode also features lighter moments, with side-discussions about food, self-care routines, and the viral Ty Lawson tweet going in on Thunder fans.
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