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Deebo
Listen, you just said I ain't want to be in the 20. You or the 25 or 30. I thought the 35U was going to
Joe
be the place
Deebo
up because they was playing in all the four ones before that.
Joe
I need to tell. No, I need to make sure. I really think, honestly, all the dudes seem like 35 maybe. But the dude that was the six' six dude, he was not 35. He was probably 32. He was young whippers.
Deebo
Well, check his birth certificate. Joey over there cheating.
Joe
I ain't wanna be. I ain't wanna do that. I'm like, come on, ain't nothing wrong.
Deebo
Hey, listen, man. Ain't nothing wrong. Hey, listen, next time be like, hey,
Joe
he was cool, though. He was cool, though.
Deebo
Hey, bring your id.
Joe
Bring your id. Yeah, everybody, I need your driver's license for sure.
Deebo
Driver's license.
Joe
I need two forms. I need two forms.
Deebo
Need driver's license.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
I need your birth certificate.
Joe
I need two. Y' all need two forms. Cause you know how they be. AI so crazy.
Deebo
I need. Matter of fact, bring your. Bring your passport and your driver's license.
Joe
Yeah, all that.
Deebo
If you ain't got no passport, you can't play in this league.
Joe
I'm telling you, bro, I gotta get. Because this league right now, since I'm playing, I gotta make sure it's nice and regulated because the 35 and up needs to be 35 and up. That was crazy. We just got belted. I want to make sure it wasn't by. I want to make sure they were 35 and up. You correct. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. That's why I signed up.
Deebo
What made you think you was going to go into a basketball league after not doing nothing for four years? And you was going to do anything positive besides pull a muscle?
Joe
Cause I got courts at the crib and I do hoop. I hoop, but I don't hoop like I like. Yeah, it's not the way. Yep. Just the way we Always work out all the time, and then you don't. It's just. You lose it. If you don't use it, you lose it. So I really. I really thought, like. Yeah, I felt like that joint made me really feel like a old head. Yep. Bounce was down. Explosiveness, all I had.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Your bounce is gone, bro.
Joe
It's not gone. I can still.
Deebo
Joe, you pulled your. You was just running up and down. You tried to do a little, and you pulled your groin.
Joe
You should. I can't if I'm so happy. There was no fans in the stands.
Deebo
And the crazy part was, man, somebody got some footage.
Joe
They only had five. No, they only had five.
Deebo
They ran y' all with five.
Joe
It was their five versus our five. There was the lady that was at the scores table that was keeping the score and the fouls and everything, and two referees. It was 13 people in that gym, so there was nobody that could get no footage. Unless that. Unless the lady was watching. She just started laughing and, like, recording. That's why I was getting hit. But I hope she wasn't doing that. She seems like a sweet lady, but.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Yeah, everybody seems sweet today. Today.
Joe
I know, I know. I know for sure. Those five. Those five brothers, I think. I ain't see them do it. Cause I was sitting on our bench after we got whooped, and I think they took a picture of the scoreboard, so. I think they know somebody took a
Joe's Friend/Commentator
picture of the scoreboard.
Deebo
Y' all out there getting slapped, getting
Joe's Friend/Commentator
mercy ruled, first time.
Joe
Listen, listen.
Deebo
Hey, just quick.
Joe
No, there ain't no. Ain't no quitting me, Coach. I got. I'm gonna heal up this room.
Deebo
It's gonna be quitting you, the shooting
Joe
machine, the jugs, and I'm gonna get right. Trust me. That was actually. That was motive. That's what we needed. The judge keeps shooting it out to me. Keep shooting the ball out. Not the. Not the football. The basketball job. You don't know nothing about that. The shooting machine. Yeah, basketball job.
Deebo
When you go ahead and. And mess that up so bad that you sitting over there with your leg propped up with ice on it, and I don't want to hear nothing. Ain't no.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Ain't no.
Deebo
Ain't no days off around here, baby.
Joe
No, no, no, bro, I'm gonna be. Look, I'm gonna be right here.
Deebo
Elevate that leg right there next to that microphone.
Joe
Yeah, I'm a prop. If I got to, I'll prop this leg right up. Shit. Come on.
Deebo
Good Lord, man. Hey, at least you. You should have Just went to the 30, 35. You football, then, Joe?
Joe
Hell no.
Deebo
Like, hell no.
Joe
The thing is, at least on basketball, the basketball thing, they're not fouling. It's just. It's a solid league. There's referees out there. So in football, I'm not trying to tackle nobody. I'm not trying to run into nobody. I like the running up and down of the basketball court. You know what I'm saying? Solid league.
Deebo
Don't like you, Yo. Look at your body, my brother.
Joe
I need to. I need to get my cardio right. I need to get my cardio right. I wasn't ready to. You know what? When you realize, Zibo, when the last time. I always would think this to people when I was, like, playing. When the last time you ran full speed?
Deebo
I ain't ran for. I ain't about to take 10 years.
Joe
And that's what I need to make sure I can still get up. Not even four, but just get up and get up and go. No, you can't. Unless you. I'm like.
Deebo
And be competitive and try and take off at 100%.
Joe
But why not? Why should I not?
Deebo
Don't even move, Joe.
Joe
My 100, my. Look, this is the thing. My 100 is not the same as the old 100, but I should be able to get up to my 100 now.
Deebo
They can do 100 now, Joe.
Tab Ramos
Huh?
Deebo
They've been doing 100 for the last 15 years. This is what they do. They play 20, you 25, you 30, you 35.
Joe
It ain't gonna take me 40.
Deebo
You, too.
Joe
It ain't gonna take me long to get my energy and to get my cardio.
Deebo
It ain't gonna take you long if you're actually training to do it, Joe.
Joe
That's what I'm.
Deebo
That's every day.
Joe
I'm starting today, man, I'm gonna eat
Deebo
right, but I'm gonna eat right for two days, and I'm gonna fuck up.
Joe
No, no, no, no, Joe.
Deebo
You gotta put in the work.
Joe
You know what you needed sometimes. This is what I needed. If I didn't lose by 40, I wouldn't be ready to get my groin right and start eating right and getting my cardio right. I needed a slap, a little nice reset, like, oh, Jody. Yeah.
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You.
Joe
Not. You not in your duffel right now. You got to get back in your duffel bag because not. Not the tween. Tween. Cross.
Tab Ramos
Pull up.
Deebo
So what you go. What you. What you gonna do? What you gonna do to take care of that janky Ass hip. You got rehab.
Joe
Don't even need dry needles. Dry needles. Okay.
Deebo
When you doing that?
Joe
I gotta get back on my dry needling. Alex, he hit me up last week talking about some. Joe, how's your hip feeling? And now I'm. I crazy. That's why I need to hit him up and say so. He's gonna hopefully be out here real soon. I need him before next game.
Deebo
Exactly.
Joe
I'm putting that.
Deebo
That's gonna be in the calendar beforehand to loosen that mug up.
Joe
That's Debo. A thousand percent. A thousand percent.
Deebo
When you.
Joe
I'm gonna start waking up in the morning. My stretches.
Deebo
You about to go and drop. You about to go and drop green on something that ain't gonna make no cr.
Joe
Deebo. All I'm telling you is.
Tab Ramos
All right.
Joe
Yep. All right, listen. The game, right?
Deebo
You ain't even a Hooper, though. That's the thing, bro.
Joe
No, not.
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Joe
Not crazy. Not crazy. But it's taking care of my body. It's taking care of my body, Deebo.
Deebo
Hey, Joe.
Joe
I got it.
Deebo
Go and work out.
Joe
Yes.
Deebo
Do cardio. You can stride. You can go and decide how hard and fast you want to go.
Tab Ramos
Yeah.
Deebo
And you don't have to adjust to somebody else. That's why you don't go and compete and go to competitions like this.
Joe
Joe, I'm not training to go back to the NBA Combine. I'm not trying to go to NBA Combine.
Deebo
I just want you was about to say go back.
Joe
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go back to the NBA combine.
Deebo
When were you there, Joe?
Joe
I was never there, but I had thoughts that maybe I could really try to get there. Back in the day, I had real live hoop dreams. Dee Bo, you're not understanding. I played varsity as a true freshman, so I thought that the potential was still maybe there. It's not. It's not. I was clearly.
Deebo
Brunson got you thinking you could do
Joe
Brunson got me thinking. That's what I'm saying. He gave the little man.
Deebo
He been doing this.
Joe
Everybody. He was getting, bro. I was in the joint. I started. I did the brunson. I did the brunson. I started kicking my leg up and I started giving him off. Arm in the joint.
Deebo
He started kicking your leg up? Because that was twanging.
Joe
Because I was trying to get body. I was trying, like, leaning in and he wasn't rocking.
Deebo
So I'm like, okay, how much you weigh right now?
Joe
Hey, I'm about one. I'm about 185.
Deebo
No victim weight.
Joe
I'm about 185 right now.
Deebo
He bigger than you? Yeah, he was about.
Joe
He was about 200. He's about 200, Joe. Old days, man. Hey, listen, I got to.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Yeah, listen, listen, Joe, you talk about the football thing, y' all can't go back out there.
Deebo
You think it's gonna be any different in a league of which you have never played and you ain't played any type of competitive sport in the last, what, four?
Joe
Yes, but this is what I'm trying to tell you, though, Deebo. I did not know that I was walking into playing the Mon Stars. If we would have played the team that I saw playing on the court before us, it would have been way more. These 35 year olds are elite. What I'm trying to tell you, these dudes played college ball. I had to. I should have asked them. I was too humble to ask. It was no time to ask.
Deebo
I want to be like this.
Joe
I want to say, hey, bro, you're 35 years old. Okay? Okay. So you must have played. Oh, you could have played overseas. You probably just came back from overseas. Are you from the area? You know what I'm saying? Where did you go to college?
Deebo
Why you got to go through all that? Keep your ass out of a league. League for a reason. Goodness, Joe. Seahawks, man. They got some super bowl rings over here, man. That is.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Is out of control, brother. Like, they revealed their Super Bowl 60 rings, which include a special button. It's got a special button on the Joe, where it pop open and it show, like the stadium inside. Like these rings. Rings created by some jeweler, Jason of Beverly Hills. Don't matter, dog.
Deebo
Yeah, Come down to it. Look at this video, man.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Look at this, look at this.
Joe
Look at the last couple of.
Deebo
I mean, the special effects.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
It ain't gonna do all that right there. I don't think so. That bet. Not if it do. We got a problem.
Joe
It got instant water in it, bruh.
Deebo
That's.
Joe
Hold up. That's the. They could turn it necklace. They can pop that joint off. Turn it to a necklace.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Pop it up.
Joe
Lashing on, latching in.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Pop it up, pop it up.
Joe
Yo, come on, man. Hey, that's fire.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
They say the bottom of the ring has 12 feathers. A feature tribute to the team's fan base. And number 50 was placed inside the ring. While the inner part of the ring has the inscription 17 wins, marking the team 173 record and route to the title. Joe, these boys. This ring got 50 diamonds, bro.
Deebo
It got 50 diamonds and it could
Joe's Friend/Commentator
turn into a pendant.
Joe
Yes.
Deebo
Put it on the chain. You wear it around your neck like that. So now you can't even tell wifey, yeah, you can't wear this. You know it is. The ring don't fit.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Nope.
Deebo
She's like, yeah, don't worry about that.
Joe
No, go ahead.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
I'm wearing. That's a change.
Joe
Yo, what you think? Debo, that thing, they getting out of control, man.
Deebo
The largest super bowl ring ever created.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Like, now that's the largest one.
Deebo
The one next year will probably go
Joe's Friend/Commentator
even, be even bigger.
Deebo
Like, I ain't gonna lie.
Joe
Do you know what your. Do you know the. The diamonds? What, your ring? What's your ring? Kind of. Debo, what's your ring talking about, man?
Joe's Friend/Commentator
My ring ain't talking about that.
Joe
Ain't talking about that.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
It ain't talking about that.
Deebo
I'll tell you what.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
My first one and my first. My first one, it was.
Deebo
It was low.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
The first one, the first, the five. It was low. Angle lie. It was like. It was like. It's like 5500 or something like that.
Joe
And do. Do you have to buy it? You have to buy this?
Joe's Friend/Commentator
No, no.
Joe
They give it to you, but you know what the value is. And like, I knew what the value
Deebo
was just because, well, the appraisal value
Joe's Friend/Commentator
was like twice as much. But I know what it was that it costs because.
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Deebo
Wasn't that delicious?
Podcast Host
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Deebo
I got it.
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Tab Ramos
I insisted.
Deebo
I stood first.
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Joe's Friend/Commentator
We kind of knew the information, so. But the second one, it was a lot better. That one was closer. Closer to like, 20, 25, something like that. It had, you know, had the nuggets in it and all that. Okay, but the first one was like. That was like a pinky ring. That was like a gentleman's ring.
Deebo
I actually do wear that one on my pinky, though.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
You know what I'm saying?
Deebo
That was the first one.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
You know what I'm saying? And then the second one, like, what was yours like,
Deebo
Joe?
Joe's Friend/Commentator
What was yours like?
Joe
You see, you just. Why you debo. For what?
Deebo
Your championship ring. Didn't you get one in college?
Joe
Oh, my. Oh, my. College.
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Joe
Yes, it was nice. It was nice. We talking about Super Bowls here, so. Yes, in Florida I did get one. It was super nice. It was real.
Deebo
I'm about to say you ain't win no Super bowl. Did you have 50 diamonds in that thing, though?
Joe's Friend/Commentator
No, no, no. Okay.
Joe
And I don't know. I don't know if they're. I don't know if. I hope it's real diamonds. I don't know. I never went and got a check.
Deebo
Where is that?
Joe
What's in my. In my safe.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Why you got it in the safe. You got a display.
Joe
I wear it sometimes. I wear it sometimes.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Sometimes I tuck it like, come on, baby.
Deebo
If you don't display it, how they gonna know you got it?
Joe
I gotta go check and see if that Natty got the real diamonds in it, though. That'd be nice to know.
Deebo
You gonna put the diamond tester on?
Joe
I'm gonna put the diamond tester on. Dang. I'll be so sad if it wasn't real diamonds, bro.
Deebo
They ain't give you real diamonds, though. You might have to go ahead fight on them, boy. You know you ain't really tripping, though. If it was. I ain't tripping like, hey, replace all these diamonds.
Joe
I'm gonna still keep it, though. No, but it's the. I mean, that means that's the legit one. Is the one that we got with. No, we got with cubic zirconians in. It's always careful. These super bowl rings now, though, are getting ridiculous. I don't know.
Deebo
They're getting out of control, man. In a minute, it's gonna be a four finger.
Joe
Like, it's gonna be a whole.
Deebo
It's gonna be all four here.
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Yeah.
Deebo
Br got the whole football field just to play right here. Then you open it up.
Joe
Yeah.
Deebo
One other play, and then when you flip it back down, I could turn it into a manhole cover that I wear around my neck. You know what I'm saying?
Joe
Like, when I open it, it turned into like a little video. It show a video of your play. Like a real actual play.
Deebo
Each play that you had. No, your best play in that super bowl, when you open it up, it's your play on there with your name and all that, man, they about to be out of control.
Joe
I ain't gonna lie. I love it, though. At least you show the team you don't gotta pay for it. You showed it the team. The team. The team's gotta do. Who pays for the rings? Did the team.
Deebo
So here. Here it goes. So this is what happened. You know how it happened When y' all got y' all super bowl ring. The. So how did the y' all team. So the team has to add whatever
Joe's Friend/Commentator
ever extra it is. So I think the initial amount of rent, I know when they first gave us ours, the first one we got, the payment that they made was 10. So it was 10,000 for each ring.
Joe
Okay.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
With our first ring, it got watered down because it was a whole bunch of other rings that were made and there was no money added to it. So when you see these other Rings that are like, you know, 30, 40, 50, 60, $80,000.
Joe
Yeah.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
The team themselves have to make up for what the NFL actually gives. And I think the only NFL only gives right now, I think it's like 20 a ring.
Joe
Okay.
Deebo
And that's just for
Joe's Friend/Commentator
the roster. So that's just for your players.
Joe
All additional ring stats, those are just. That's a hundred.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
And that's why they're different, too. That's why. That's why they're different. Like, staff rings are different than the players rings.
Joe
Okay.
Deebo
So you can get this the same thing. It may be something different on it. Like, it's not as chunky, you know,
Joe's Friend/Commentator
whatever it may be, but yeah. And then they got like a family and friends ring, all that other stuff. But that's what you pay for as far as if you wanted to get that. But the. The team, them, they get so much money per player. So the rings is like, you know, whatever it may be, they get an allowance of 20 grand, whatever. So everything after that, the team is like, okay. They gotta add to it to be like, okay. So if your ring, you know, it costs 70 grand. The team added 50 grand for each one. And then whatever else they spent through that process.
Joe
I feel it. I like that. So that means whatever. If you got. If your team got these fat rings, that means they write a nice little check. That's what you should do. You want to ship, go get it. Like I. They trying to. That's what it's all about.
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Joe's Friend/Commentator
Yep.
Deebo
For sure.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Clemson's Dabo Sweeney weighs in on the chaos surrounding college football. He said the only thing worse than having no rules is having rules you can't enforce or don't enforce. I don't think any of us thought we'd be in a world where there's no order. It's a much bigger conversation now. Even in the NFL, there are rules. You can't sign with the Browns and go practice for two weeks, and the Dolphins call you up and say, hey, what are you. What are they paying you? Hey, we'll pay you a million more. Come down here to Miami. And then you go down there and they say, hey, boys, I'm out. Joe?
Joe
Yeah.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
You agree with this? Disagree with this. What do you think is going on?
Deebo
You agree what he's saying?
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Disagree what he's saying?
Joe
What you think I'm agreeing with what he's saying? Like, it's just everybody's. College football is not college football anymore. And when you're saying something that if you can't, the Craziest thing is not only thing. The worst of having no rules is having rules that you can't enforce. If you have a league and you can't enforce your rules, then there's a reason why rules are in place. Like, people might not like rules. They might not want to always abide and whatever, but there's certain reasons why rules are in place. So that's why everything's able to run a certain way. If you didn't have rules, it's just a wild, wild west. Like there's no control.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Right?
Joe
NCAA is always act like they were a big league, they were a big unit, they were always like a big. Like, like the NFL. The NFL has a legitimate. We have unions, we have real reps, we have st. It might not be the way that we want it. They do have rules in place that we're working to get changed, but we have things where we can go back and forth. Ncaa, you don't. When you start ruling things and then you have judges that just come around you and re rule, it's like you can't enforce your rules. We don't have any rules. What's going on? So everybody, everything is challenged. All of the players, People should get played. Players should get played. I'm not. We're not. Nobody's ever saying that we're against that. I don't think that, that players not getting paid for a long time has been something that, oh, you're a college athlete. I'm like, no, no, no. There's reasons why. Why if you went to a school and you went to a school where you. There's an artist that's in your same class and the artist goes and sell their painting back in the day, they can go make profits on this painting and still be in school and nothing's wrong. They're still a student athlete, but they can go sell their painting because that's what they do. If you can go make money on yourself, I don't see why you would never be able to make that money. So if you're an NCAA player, you're working, you're playing on the team, you can go sign autographs for somebody that will pay you for your autograph. They're paying you because of who you are, that's being able to make money off of your name, your image, your likeness. So that whole thing with the NCAA was like, no, they're a college athlete. I'm like, you're trying to hide behind this stuff. That's crazy. The whole time when you're just blatantly. Like, that doesn't make any sense. So this whole thing now when the NCAA is, like, the sheet is off, like, everybody is wide open, there's no rules. People are doing every different thing.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
I think another thing he was, like, trying to get. You know, he's talking about some way of pushing for a stronger portal transfer, like Porter, regular regulations and then, like, tampering and all the other stuff, like, stuff that we do in the NFL that we have. So, like you said, it's the Wild west right now. And without a set government of things that need to rule, hell, even though, you know, the literal Wild west, until they got the rules and things were starting to be enforced, you know, it. It was what it was. And I understand. I'm with you. I understand what he's saying. And I know people are like, oh,
Deebo
well, you know, you just. You're just trying to stop them from making money, man. You just.
Joe
Did you.
Deebo
They. They should be able to do this, man. Now you want to put parameters on them and all this?
Joe's Friend/Commentator
No, no, you gotta do something.
Joe
I want.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
They should have put something there before this even got started.
Deebo
Because without, like I said, without the
Joe's Friend/Commentator
rules, you're in a situation where like, yeah, guys should be paid something. But it's not. It's. You know, it's not true. Everywhere you go, like, some guys go get paid more here, they go get paid less here. And when it really comes down to it, bro, like, this is a business. It done came down to being a business.
Joe
Thousand percent.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
When you got the colleges sitting here and they're like, okay, who makes money for us? Y' all want to sit here and y' all want to really think about this, and y' all want to say,
Deebo
oh, let these players make as much as they can. To hell with what they're talking about. It's like, make all the money you can.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Cool.
Deebo
They do that.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
You say, go ahead. Make all the money you can. Who is the teams that are making the money? Most teams in college that are making their money. Football team and your basketball team. Okay. And that depends on, like. Like, what school you go to. So when you're talking about.
Deebo
And as a general statement, I'll say
Joe's Friend/Commentator
as a general statement, the profit that comes is either the football team and major D1 basketball. That's it.
Joe
Yeah.
Deebo
After that, you. Sometimes you can.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
You can have something where it's like, you know, something for yourself.
Deebo
Baseball or something. Whatever. You know, whatever it may be like that. Okay, so basically, like. And then some women's basketballs, like, I Said top programs. It just really depends on where it is. But it's very, very, very, very, very, very, very few and far in between. So if we're saying we gotta pay these athletes and we're not gonna put a limit on what they can be paid, and we gotta pay as much as we can to be able to be competitive with other schools, you know what's gonna happen?
Joe's Friend/Commentator
We're gonna cut these damn programs.
Deebo
Why? Because every other sport, baseball, soccer, field H, volleyball, you name it, wrestling, it don't make money. It's at a deficit. It costs money to make.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
And who's paying for it? The football team.
Deebo
And with the football team and the coach go say, we can't be competitive because y' all keep paying for all these other sports out here that ain't. Sorry, that ain't making no money. And they not generating no revenue. So they're upside down. And we're using a football team and the basketball team's money to make up for all the stuff that they're getting. And they're like, you know what? We aren't competitive enough because we can't pay the players what it needs to be paid.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
So what happens? You get rid of those teams.
Deebo
Now what happens?
Joe's Friend/Commentator
You get less students, no scholarships.
Deebo
You got kids that go into school
Joe's Friend/Commentator
now, and they have to pay their way to school. Now they're coming out of college if they're able to get into college, because
Deebo
the only way they could have got
Joe's Friend/Commentator
in before was through a scholarship. They didn't have the money or funds to do it.
Deebo
Now they're coming out in debt. So what you're going to see is you're going to see a whole bunch
Joe's Friend/Commentator
of colleges that ain't got nothing but football and basketball programs. And now every other sport will be canceled because it has turned into a pure business.
Deebo
So you need to find a way to get this regulated.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
And if y' all don't, that's what it's going to be. And he's 100% right.
Joe
I'm with you. Because a lot of the football teams, basketball teams, are making a lot of the money. But I think it's like we said, players long time ago should have been getting paid. That's not even a discussion. But it's the way that it's going to have to get organized to where, like, they act like they're a league, but they're not a league. They're not together. They're all they got to figure out, like, with the having contracts and being able to with nil I mean, with the transfer portal dudes now they're saying that they could transfer. If you're on a football team, you could transfer to the track team and say that you're running track for another team and then be able to play on the football team. So all of these different loopholes, all these different ways they have to be able to get regulated because same time, if you were to give people money, contracts, the players have to at the same time be able to kind of not, we love the freedom, but for you just to be able to still.
Deebo
Well, it's one sided right now.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
And when something's one sided, then it don't never last that long. Even when it's like the owners, oh,
Deebo
I got you, you could do this. You can't.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
No, that's why you got hold out, sit out all the other, other stuff right now.
Deebo
In college, these boys can sign a deal today and then tomorrow somebody else
Joe's Friend/Commentator
come and they, they gone. Yeah, like it's, it's no, it's no real structure there. Like that's, that's, that's out of control. Like you're gonna have to start paying these guys. You might have to start coming up with some, some sort of form of, of some sort of union structure, whatever that may be, of how that'll be.
Deebo
Because you're gonna have to need somebody to fight against what it is that's going on.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Because once you put these rules in place, you got to make sure it's, it's fair for all.
Deebo
And right now it's just a, y' all do what y' all want to do and get the money where you
Joe's Friend/Commentator
can get it because there's no rules in place. Like, and you look right here, breaking
Deebo
news like the Big 12 right now,
Joe's Friend/Commentator
they filed suit against Texas Tech and the Texas attorney general this morning for the Brandon Sorsby issue. They filed suit against them. And that's another thing.
Deebo
They, you can't enforce the rule. This dude went and he went and like went to a court to stop them from enforcing their own rule.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
That's been there forever.
Deebo
Well, at least as long as it's
Joe's Friend/Commentator
been there for a protection against gambling.
Deebo
Dude, like, stop it.
Joe
There is certain things, like in the NFL, you can't. With players betting on the sport. I mean, that's just something that you can't play with. And if I think the ncaa, you can't let that happen. That's not like a bendable offense. That's the integrity of the game.
Deebo
So it's this damn court, this damn Attorney General. These damn Texas, they think they could
Joe's Friend/Commentator
do anything that they want to out there.
Deebo
Like, this is not going to hold up. They can't let this hold up. If this goes. This has to go all the way
Joe's Friend/Commentator
to the top Supreme Court, whatever it
Deebo
may be, and it will be knocked down because the rule says what the
Joe's Friend/Commentator
rule says, and it's there for a reason.
Deebo
Listen, if you go and they allow
Joe's Friend/Commentator
this, this is setting precedent. And every player will now be able
Deebo
to 100% gamble on a game and say, you can't kick me out. You gotta let me in, because it's gonna hurt my possibilities to be able to be drafted. No, you hurt your possibilities when you went and started gambling, you dumb motherfucker.
Joe
Debo. Correct. And that's okay. Sometimes people like, oh, we gotta be. You gotta be nice and sensitive to every sing. Some shit is black and white, some things you can't do. And it's okay that we want to go get you some help and stuff, but you. Now, you can't play football.
Deebo
But that's what they're using now. All the mental issues of I'm this, I'm that, and da, da, da. Okay, well, I'm mentally messed up and I kill motherfuckers. I'm a serial killer. You should let me out. I got mental issues. No, you lock the motherfuckers up and put them to death.
Joe
Some. Some. Some is black and white.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Listen, bro, Dion. Dion Sanders said this about gambling on your own team. Somebody gambling on a sport. They're playing it, you're playing. You don't think something's wrong with that? He said, just say this to yourself. This guy on my team is gambling on the sport in the competition that we're about to go out there and play. Something's wrong with that.
Joe
Like, dude, saying it out of your mouth, just saying the words in the sense, like betting on the sport that you're playing. Oh, that's illegal, right? Like, just like, okay, boom. Next next topic.
Deebo
Like, I have the change. Listen, bro, I got the capability to change whatever it is that I'm betting on, period. Hey, listen, they say James supposed to go out there and he's supposed to get at least three sacks. He playing against this. This bum ass tackle that ain't blocked nobody since, you know, since. Since Jesus was. Was born. He ain't blocking anybody since then. And they got me for three sacks. But the. But the. But the under is.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Is.
Deebo
Is paying, you know, 40, 40 to 1. Hey, and I'm betting, damn, I had a bad game. Damn. Guess how many sacks, Joe?
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Two.
Deebo
I. I go two and a half.
Joe
You go two and a half.
Deebo
But I'm going under three.
Joe
You're going under three?
Deebo
I'm going under three.
Joe
See, that. That's. That there is crazy, right?
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Like, dude, like, it's.
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Deebo
it's getting so far
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Joe's Friend/Commentator
what it was like. Okay. You used to get your ass beat with an extension cord and a clothes
Deebo
hanger and switches outside to. Now you hit them with a hand and it's a problem. No, it ain't. I whip mine with a belt and I let them know real fast. Listen, it's repercussions and consequences for not listening. Delayed obedience is disobedience. My mama told me that a long time ago. Listen, idle threats and all that other stuff. I don't whoop my kids cause I'm mad at them. I never whooped my kids cause I
Joe's Friend/Commentator
was mad at them.
Joe
Oh, no, no. It has nothing to do with you.
Deebo
If A happens, then B, I didn't want to whoop my kids. It actually hurt me to whoop my kids. But I made them believe that daddy loved whooping ass because I wanted them to think that, you know what, man? Let me not go out here and up this dad.
Joe
Go whoop that ass.
Deebo
I only had to whip my kids a handful.
Joe
Handful of times. That's what I'm saying. Yep.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
But like, it needs to be done, brother.
Deebo
Like, I don't. Otherwise, dude.
Joe
Otherwise, what's gonna stop him? Nothing.
Deebo
When you get to this point, this is something else I tell people, dude.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
There's something else I tell people, man,
Deebo
is if you're not going to actually
Joe's Friend/Commentator
enforce some sort of physical punishment onto
Deebo
a child between the ages of 2
Joe's Friend/Commentator
and 6 because they don't understand anything but reward and punishment. I think that's when you instill the most discipline into a child. Why?
Deebo
Because I'm going to tell you, I don't need to reason with you. I can't reason with you, you two and six. But I can tell you don't do that.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
And if you do it, you get punishment. You get pain.
Joe
It's easy.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Reward and punishment.
Deebo
So now I teach you through the
Joe's Friend/Commentator
process of a, don't do that.
Deebo
And now later on, as you get older, I can reason with you. But if I don't get to that point to where it's always, no, no, don't do that, don't do that, don't do that. What happens when they realize it's no punishment for it? Stand in the Corner. I ain't standing in the corner. Now they walk out the corner. Now what you gonna do? You go and you stand in that corner. I grab you. Get your hands off me. Fuck you, Mom. Get off me. Now what happens? See, it's no physical punishment. Lil Johnny don't touch the socket. Don't touch Lil Johnny. Ain't he think you playing the game now? Cause you running over there grabbing him. You ain't popped his ass yet. Now when you ain't looking, Lil Johnny put that key in that socket and boom, Little Johnny gone. And I think you wouldn't have to worry about that, because he would have been like, oh, shit. I try and do this pain.
Joe
I think the same thing that you're saying, Deebo, is it's still too. When I'm saying there's actions and there's reactions. Like when you. Somebody's gotta teach the kid right from wrong. And I'm not always like, the same thing.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
You're not.
Deebo
Well, I'm just saying they're getting softer in their.
Joe
You don't look forward to whooping your kid or putting physical. So, like, when I say, my wife, she did I just tap the tushy? Like, a quick tap of the tushy. And my kids do a good job now of now. I can talk to them now, because back in the day, they didn't know when you tap them, they get that. You know what I'm saying? I'm not like, I'm sitting there spanking up. I don't feel. I don't want to do this, but just do that to you. You're not gonna do that. There's an authority now just in my voice. I don't have to touch. I haven't touched. Haven't tapped the tushy of my kids in three years. Just because now they know right from wrong. And if I say something, they're not sitting there just doing things. When you say stop, it's instant stop.
Deebo
Yes.
Joe
It's no. Like, go do this. And they're instantly going to go do it. Like when dad says something, it's not. You don't have to say something. You're never repeating yourself. Like, my wife, she's a lot more passive. She's like. And then she'll say, I'm like, Joey. And then he instantly goes, move. And go do. I'm like, you heard your mom. It's not like I just need to know there's an authority figure. You're this child. You don't. I'm not telling you to do wrong. When I tell you to do something, it's because I love you and it's because it was needs to be done right now. It's nothing like if I'm telling you, you walking in the middle of the road. Joey, get out the road. He's going to move immediately because he knows his dad's not just saying something, just to be saying something. I need to be moving. My dad's trying to protect me. If he tells me to do something, it's because he loves me and I need to be moving. You know what I'm saying? So like, it's more like get out the road. You see kids, look at this man still walking. I'm like, you're trying to protect them. So you need to be able to know like, no, what are you doing? You gotta listen to me.
Deebo
Exactly.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
And what did he think was gonna happen?
Deebo
Sourceby? He knew what the rules was. He knew what the rules was.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
But you know what it said? I got a mental issue. I can't stop gambling. I just can't help it.
Deebo
Well, the is gonna stop you if they let you play. And then you go into the league, you think somebody go pick you up, you got a gambling problem. You got it. So you so mentally up, you can't even stop when they done told you to stop, you done placed over, what was it, ninety thousand dollar in bets over a course of four years. They don't. Four years, son.
Joe
Nine thousand bets.
Deebo
You go, you go, you go.
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Deebo
What are you, what are you talking about, bro? You should be done.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Obviously you got something going on there in Texas over there. But this ain't, this ain't gonna hold up, buddy. It ain't gonna hold up.
Deebo
You, you got, you gotta, you want, you want a little battle.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
But believe me, the NCAA go win the war because it cannot go on. This will be the worst thing to ever happen to the ncaa.
Deebo
If this is allowed to happen.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
It will be the worst thing probably to ever happen in, in the history of football, sports, period.
Deebo
Like you. They can't otherwise.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Dude, forget about it, man.
Deebo
Just do what you want to do. Do what you want to do then. God, people in your mental capacity. I was, I was down bad, you know, because everything is, you know, we take mental health seriously.
Joe
Yeah.
Deebo
And then if he didn't, why the should I.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
He didn't take it serious. He knew what the, the consequences was.
Deebo
He did it four years straight. Not once, not twice. Four years straight over 9, 000 bets.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
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Joe
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Joe
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Deebo
Shout out Covenant. She said.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Joe, be honest. What's worse, the loss or waking up the next morning? Would you have. Would you have said, I'm good if LeBron James walked out there? It's Lebanon. But I'm saying LeBron LeBron James walked out there to play also.
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Joe's Friend/Commentator
Why so many NFL players get arrested?
Joe
So first off, I'm gonna start off with the loss. The loss.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
It.
Joe
It's.
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Joe
Coveted life, but it was actually more. I know that we gonna. I know I can do better. I can get to my spot. It wasn't as bad as it seemed, Joe.
Deebo
To hell with getting to your spot. You can't make the shot. I can get to the spot.
Joe
Debo.
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Joe
I can make the shot. That's what I'm saying. If they would just cut me off and I couldn't even get there, then that would have me more flustered. I can get there. I just need to get my flick back, right? So, yes. LeBron James, if he walked out there, if LeBron was out there, we would have won. If LeBron was on my team.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Oh, if LeBron was on your team.
Joe
If LeBron James was on my team, we definitely would have won for sure because he would have been the best player out there. And why the NFL players get arrested?
Joe's Friend/Commentator
I don't know.
Joe
I don't know. I would say off season, they gotta just start doing better with the. I think just having that time.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
That's what they getting arrested for, Mary.
Joe
What do you mean?
Joe's Friend/Commentator
I don't know what they're getting arrested for.
Joe
I don't know either. All right, what we got?
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Yeah, I don't know. We got heckle Sante, $2 said, Debo, would you get your super bowl touchdown return on the ring? Would you get your. Would you get your super bowl plays on the ring? Joe, Would you get one of yours?
Joe
I mean, yes, if I did. Hell yeah.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
No, I wouldn't do that because it's not about to play. Ah, it's a team.
Joe
It's a team. It's a team thing, sport. Ah, okay, now if I get.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
If I.
Deebo
If I could get.
Joe
They asking if, like, like the whole plays on the rings.
Deebo
You know what I'm saying? If I get the whole squad on
Joe's Friend/Commentator
there, then yeah, yeah, yeah.
Deebo
But no, I don't need to.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
I don't.
Deebo
I don't need to return on there.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
I get to see that, like, every year.
Deebo
Mike. Mike.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
$105 said, what up, Debo? And Joe. Joe, you got this. Your basketball team can do the impossible. Like the. Get the freak out of here. Like the Knicks.
Joe
Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike.
Deebo
Only impossible until it happened.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
That's what we're talking about.
Joe
Mike, Mike. I already know. I'm gonna keep you updated on what's going on. It's gonna be the good thing is we got one week.
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Deebo
Man, stop pumping his head up.
Joe
Mike, Mike might know what's up. So when I get that full roster. Mike, Mike, Next week I'm gonna look, I'll let you know the exact. I had nine. Next week I'm gonna let you. Not this week.
Deebo
Yeah, next week you're gonna come out here. You gonna be on that one.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Cop that sitting over there with ice leg kicked up 20.
Deebo
20 what?
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Minutes.
Joe
20 points.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Oh, my goodness. Bro, I don't understand you, bro. Like you.
Deebo
You.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
I thought I was delusional, you know, with. I could come back and play in the league.
Joe
I'm gonna sit up, I'm put. I'm gonna. I'm gonna put up a video.
Deebo
You go tell me I can't come back and play in the league that I played in. But you can go and play in the league that you ain't played in. This is not athletes, semi pro athletes. And get how it's a.
Joe
Nobody know. And nobody knew. These dudes played back in the day. I didn't know what I was walking into. I was hoping I was walking into a. I was hoping I was walking in to go play a bunch of shit.
Deebo
Done again.
Joe
Why I was hoping I was going to play five deebos.
Deebo
Fudge. No, Deebo ain't going out there.
Joe
That's what I was hoping. That deebos. I seen five dudes. I was like, you know what, man? I see a little league going on. Y' all want to go out there and play a little ball? That's what I was hoping. They just rolled the ball out, just trying to go out there, get some cardio. But no, they were trying to go out there and get a real bucket. So now I just had to get my mind all the way right. And my team. So now my team knows we know this is not no JV league. When we go play the Monstars, the other two teams now we gotta come in there and lock in. So we know we gotta prepare when we.
Deebo
When we see it again. When your next game, Joe?
Joe's Friend/Commentator
When your next game?
Joe
I might. Huh? Next game? It's next Sunday.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Next Sunday.
Joe
Next Sunday. And then after next Sunday, then it's going Sunday, Sunday, Sunday after That.
Deebo
Yeah, so we'll see Monday.
Joe
It's a blessing because we needed. After that first game, we needed two weeks of recovery if we had to get right back out there on the ship. I don't know. I don't know how. It was a little down.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Okay, we'll see, we'll see.
Joe
We gonna get right, though.
Deebo
How your event go, though?
Joe
Which event?
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Akusha.
Joe
Oh, Acrisure. That went really, really good, man. Really good. Really, really good. A lot of donations. My man Koontz was out there. Antonio Holmes is out there.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe
It was a good, good, good turnout. Raised. But they raised 1.3 million for charity, brother. Yeah, they was out there doing it.
Deebo
Was it cash?
Joe
It was like auction items.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
And was the money on site, though?
Joe
No, no, the money wasn't. See, there you. No, Debo. The money was on site. It was a lot of. It was a lot of tap. It was a lot of tap to pay. Going out there to pay.
Wells Fargo Representative
Okay.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
Yeah.
Joe
Wow, man.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
I just like to get my. I like to get my skills up, I guess. Look here, baby.
Deebo
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Joe's Friend/Commentator
saying coming in life said. Joe, does Debo make you nervous when he becomes overly passionate and starts?
Deebo
Heck, I do.
Joe's Friend/Commentator
And I'm in the GA listening, listening to that Debo music.
Joe
Yes. Sometimes coveted. Sometimes get a little nervous because he gets a little.
Deebo
Bro, you don't get nervous.
Joe
I ain't gonna lie. I ain't like her. I ain't getting nervous. I just know he said he's. His opinion. He's strong opinions. And I like it when he gets like that because, I mean, he can. Hey, hey, hey.
Deebo
Except for that car game. He tried to leave you.
Joe
Except for that car.
Deebo
He tried to leave you, boy. He tried to leave you right there. The bus over here. Come on, come on.
Joe
You done spazzed on me, Joe.
Deebo
That boy try to leave me at the Super Bowl.
Wells Fargo Representative
Come on.
Joe
Yeah, okay. All right, all right.
Deebo
Debo, you right, Joe. You tried to leave everybody, bro.
Joe
And look, I was tight. I was tight. I was tight.
Deebo
Hey, man, thank you guys again, man. We will be back here tomorrow. We may have a guest for you. We don't know for sure yet, but we will put it up as soon as it is 100% concrete. We want to thank you guys for joining us.
Joe
Joe, yo, same place, same time tomorrow. Let's get it.
Deebo
Yo.
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Date: June 15, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (plus “Deebo” and “Joe”)
In this lively nighttime episode, the crew dives into a blend of personal stories, hot sports headlines, and sharp commentary. Topics range from struggles in rec league basketball, the ever-escalating opulence of Super Bowl rings, and deep insights on the chaos in college football around NIL, transfer rules, the Big 12’s lawsuit over the Sorsby case, and athlete discipline. As always, the conversation is raw and unfiltered, brimming with banter and strong opinions.
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Chaos described as “the Wild West” – focus on regulatory gaps, transfer portal, and NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) mismanagement
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Debate on how payment for players should work, the need for enforceable rules, and the business realities
B. Funding, Title IX, and Potential Fallout
If football and basketball have to pay out more, other collegiate sports could disappear due to lack of revenue
Scholarships and opportunities at risk if institutions are forced to fund only revenue sports
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C. The Brandon Sorsby Case & Gambling in College Sports
Fans who missed this episode will get an inside look at both fun sports culture and current controversies. The episode bounces from anecdotal humor about aging athletes to sharp, insightful analysis on deep problems facing college sports—showcasing the hosts’ range as commentators and entertainers. The result is an edifying, entertaining, and at times passionate conversation about the state of play in both professional and college-level athletics, all seasoned with great camaraderie and storytelling.