BEST of UNC CRASHING OUT on Guest Part 2: Funny Marco BREAKS CHARACTER after trolling, Shakur Stevenson gets PERSONAL with Unc

Summary

Nightcap Podcast Summary

Episode: BEST of UNC CRASHING OUT on Guest Part 2: Funny Marco BREAKS CHARACTER after trolling, Shakur Stevenson gets PERSONAL with Unc

Date: July 26, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (Joe / Unc), Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (Ocho)
Notable Guests: Shakur Stevenson, Funny Marco

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1. Episode Overview

This high-energy episode features classic Nightcap chaos: rapid-fire sports talk, relentless roast battles, and a raw, sometimes hilariously tense debate about boxing’s future and fighting styles. Comedian Funny Marco joins early for layers of trolling and roast battles. The show then pivots to a fiery, in-depth conversation with pound-for-pound boxing star Shakur Stevenson, fresh off a new promotional deal and championship win. Expect laughs, real opinions, and personal challenges—including a memorable escalation between Shakur and “Unc” about fight style, legacy, and respect.

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2. Key Segments & Timestamps

• [04:15] – Marco vs. Unc: Comedy Roasts & Trolling
• [17:27] – Shakur Stevenson Interview Begins
• [18:43] – Shakur on Joining Zuffa Boxing (Dana White/Nick Khan)
• [20:00] – Making Super Fights: Haney, Tank, & Catchweight Debate
• [22:46] – Fight Night Mentality & Anxiety
• [23:41] – Promoter Politics in Boxing
• [25:43] – Shakur Responds to Critique of His Style
• [27:15] – Debating “Entertaining” vs. “Winning” Styles
• [31:13] – Heated Style Debate: Shakur vs. Joe
• [40:15] – Trash-Talking and Potential Sparring Matchups
• [45:53] – Shakur’s Next Fight & Betting on the Big Fights
• [60:02] – Escalating Argument on Style, Respect, & Ignorance
• [71:27] – Resolution: Respect, Opinion, and Final Words

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3. Funny Marco: Trolls, Roast Battles, and Breaking Character

[04:15 – 13:00]

• Marco launches into a classic roast session—battling with Joe/Unc about skin, looks, and upbringing.
• Best moments:
  • “The worst comment I got as a kid telling me it looked like somebody stepped on my face with cleats.” — Marco ([04:28])
  • “Guess what? It don’t stop them checks coming in. And it won’t stop them young ones from opening up.” — Joe ([04:50])
  • Debate about who could “get more girls” if facing off ([07:14])
  • Hilarious bit about Marco’s “$20,000/month” apartment and green screens, with the crew refusing to believe his background is real.
  • Marco feigns being “terrified,” threatens a “cease and desist,” and keeps pretending to be uncomfortable: “My hands are up because I’m afraid.” ([06:14])
• Notable quote:
  • “That’s why a lot of people don’t come on that damn show.” — Marco ([09:59])

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4. Shakur Stevenson: Personal, Raw, and READY

[17:27 – 78:05]

4.1 New Era, New Deal

[17:27]

• Shakur joins after his dominant win, discussing his move to Zuffa Boxing (run by Dana White and Nick Khan).
• “I’m the leader of the company… now that I’m here, they got the best of the best.” — Shakur ([17:47])

4.2 Making the Big Fights Happen

[20:00]

• Lists Devin Haney, Tank Davis, Gary Russell, Lamont Roach as “must happen” matchups—emphasizes money is no excuse now.
• Explains fighting Haney at 144 lbs:
  • “I don’t give a [expletive] that he’s gonna get in the ring 20 pounds bigger. I’m gonna beat him while he 20 pounds bigger, and that’s gonna make my win even greater.” — Shakur ([20:36])

4.3 “I’m the A-side now”

[21:29]

• “I’m at a point in my career that I don’t need nobody… I can make millions and millions… I’m top dog now.”

4.4 Fight Night—Shakur’s Mental State

[22:46]

• “It felt like destiny. I ain’t really had too much anxiety… I turned into a different mode come fight night. Like, I know it’s me or that guy.”

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5. Boxing Culture Clash: Style, Legacy, “Entertaining” vs. “Winning”

[25:43 – 71:27]

5.1 The Core Debate: Legacy & Fighting Style

• Joe (Unc) questions if Shakur’s “slick” defensive-first style is truly “entertaining” or will get him the accolades fans give “sluggers” or “risk-takers.”
  • “People won’t… you do a great job hitting and not getting hit, but I think sometimes people want to see you put yourself in harm’s way and get down.” — Joe ([27:15])
  • “When you step in that ring, you in harm’s way.” — Shakur ([27:15])
• Shakur fires back fiercely:
  • “Boxing is not just knockouts.”
  • “You never boxed before.”
  • Explains hand issues (like Mayweather) and why he prioritizes skill, longevity, and family over “brawling for fans.”

5.2 Respect vs. Ignorance: It Gets Heated

• Ignorance callouts:
  • “You don’t have an educated opinion.” — Shakur ([71:21])
  • “You speaking from a place where… you don’t do your homework on the sport of boxing.” ([64:14])
• Joe fires back:
  • “Ignorant is something that should never come out of your mouth because you don’t have a degree. I run circles around you in a class.” ([66:22])
  • Shakur and Joe veer into a tense (but also tongue-in-cheek) generational clash about education, life experience, and the right to have opinions.
• Ocho mediates:
  • “Both of you have opinions. Everything y’all talk about is based on opinion… we going in circles about the same thing.” ([70:12])

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6. Trash Talk, Sparring, and Real Invitations

[40:15 – 47:00]

• Athletic bravado escalates: “I’ll fold your ass like a lawn chair.” — Joe ([35:35])
• Ocho and Shakur flex their gym routines, sparring credentials, and even challenge each other to 10-minute rounds.
• Shakur is unfazed: “I’ll put one glove on.”
• Growing bets about who would win—money, pride, and even kids’ college funds name-dropped.
• The line between play and real tension gets thin but always ultimately gets waved off with an "it's all love" vibe.

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7. Final Words, Respect, and Looking Ahead

[76:04 – 78:05]

• Both Joe and Shakur acknowledge the edge is for the show, and respect remains.
  • “It’s all love, man. I just was talking shit with you.” — Shakur ([75:25])
  • “Congratulations, man. Look here. Make these fights happen, Shakur. Make your money… Go and get you about five more years. Get you about 200 mil.” — Joe ([76:09])
• Shakur says he’s planning to fight again this year, wants the biggest names, and will build both his record and net worth. Open about future goals as a promoter.
• Ocho jokes about needing his 10% cut.
• Ends with the spirit of healthy competition, family, and hustle.

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8. Most Memorable Quotes

• “I want to debate about it. I want to actually get into what is what and what you’re talking about. You have not yet to really explain.” – Shakur ([62:08])
• “Respect—put some respect on my name when you talkin’. That’s all I ask.” – Shakur ([70:51])
• “Both of you have opinions. Everything y’all talk about is based on opinion…” – Ocho ([70:12])
• “You don’t know about boxing. That’s all I’m trying to—” – Shakur ([65:00])
• “We can have a debate, but then you say my boxing… if I… but I’m not trying to say you’re the greatest lightweight or you don’t have to have…” – Joe ([69:35])
• “I want your kids to be mad at you about what you’re…” – Shakur ([74:55])
• “Get you two big paydays a year, and peace free with my family, man. That’s the game plan right there.” – Shakur ([76:41])

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9. Episode Highlights—What Makes This a Must-Listen

• The rawness: Shakur, in real time, refuses to sugar coat, defending the art and risk of his boxing style.
• Crossover chaos: Comedian Funny Marco sets the tone with trolling and jokes, but the episode seamlessly pivots into authentic, hard-hitting sports talk.
• Generational/ideological clash: Unfiltered, sometimes uncomfortable debate about what makes a legacy—skill or spectacle?
• Locker-room camaraderie: Even at peak argument, respect simmers beneath the surface—proving why Nightcap is the “new nighttime sports talk destination.”

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10. For Listeners Who Missed It

If you want to hear:

• The funniest boxing roast session of the month,
• Candid insight from one of boxing’s pound-for-pound best,
• A real, relatable debate about “how to win and be remembered,”
• —all in the language and vibe of the locker-room,

This is your episode.

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End of Summary

Transcript

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[Joe]

you what Chat let's put glasses on. Put glasses on him Put glasses on me and let's turn to the side and let' see who looks like Ms.

[Marco]

It Ain't about the acne.

[Joe]

Yes it is. Have. Have a woman ever made fun of your skin?

[Marco]

Oh yeah. I mean. I mean the worst comment I got as a kid telling me it looked like somebody stepped on my face with cleats. That was a one.

[Tab Ramos]

All right.

[Marco]

How we exit?

[Ashley Iconetti]

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[Joe]

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[Marco]

What's going on with this? Anybody ever told you you look like Ms. Netta?

[Joe]

They do sometimes I don't get up. It used to bother me, but guess what? It don't stop them checks for coming in. And it won't stop them young ones from opening up.

[Marco]

It sure don't. So let me.

[Joe]

As a matter of fact, you look more like Miss Letter to me. With that skin, that acting. Now that you brought it up, you should have left that alone. You look. Put some glasses on. I tell you what, Chat. Let's put glasses on. Put glasses on him. Put glasses on me. And let's turn to the side, and let's see who looks like Miss.

[Marco]

It ain't about the acme.

[Joe]

Yes, it is. I'm glad you brought that up. But since you took it there, let's go there now.

[Marco]

See, There we go. Now we getting aggressive. I'm really scared right now. But I said I can sue you right now because I'm on your show. And now I feel embarrassed. This is a lawsuit.

[Joe]

What you embarrassed for?

[Marco]

I'm embarrassed. You get a cease and deceit.

[Joe]

It was you that you went to

[Marco]

the Doctor and it's 20,000 people watching. I'm a little afraid. And I lost two.

[Joe]

Ocho. He the one that went to the doctor to try not to look like Ms. Netta. I haven't done nothing to my skin.

[Marco]

I'm not saying this is a lawsuit.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Hey, what lawsuit?

[Marco]

Because I know. Because, look, when you come on somebody's show, I feel ambushed. Like, why am I getting attacked?

[Ocho]

I ain't even say that.

[Marco]

I'm telling you, it's a lot. And you can't. You can't stop what I want to cook up.

[Joe]

Exactly. How am I ambushing?

[Marco]

My hands are up because I'm afraid.

[Joe]

Oh, I'm not gonna let you try to empty the clip on me and then hold your hand. I'm gonna fire back at you.

[Shakur Stevenson]

What show was this?

[Marco]

This is your show, right? I'm against you supposed to make guests feel comfortable. I'm uncomfortable.

[Joe]

Hey, no, I'm mad because Ocho ain't firing back at you. I'm trying to empty the clip.

[Marco]

Hold on.

[Ocho]

He not. He not funny to me,

[Joe]

But funny. Marco, if you turn to the side and look at your skin. Really? Is that really what we gonna do?

[Marco]

I don't show people my side portfolio, bro.

[Joe]

Look it straight on.

[Marco]

Hey, I had to turn sideways.

[Joe]

Look straight on. It's the skin, bro. It's the skin.

[Marco]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey, but you.

[Tab Ramos]

You.

[Ocho]

Hey, you. You said he looked like Ms. Netta first.

[Marco]

No, I read a comment. This is y' all show. These are y' all guess what?

[Joe]

I'm not talking about. But, Marco, I mean, truth be told, now, I mean, the chat being real, I mean, if you look at the

[Marco]

skin, all right, but if me and you went one on one to get girls, guess who walking out with them?

[Joe]

Boy, stop it. Boy, stop. Don't do that.

[Warning Announcer]

Who.

[Ocho]

Who walking out with?

[Marco]

I'm like. You know what I'm saying? Just personality, skills, and just what, like, nah, bro. Not gonna bring money into my past.

[Joe]

That's the first of all. I'm past that stage. If you caught me in my 20s, you caught me in my 20s or early 30s.

[Marco]

Who look better between me and him?

[Joe]

I'm grand. I'm a grandfather, bro. I'm a grandfather.

[Marco]

Who look better between me and him.

[Joe]

Really, Dude?

[Marco]

What? He the only one in here?

[Joe]

Lord have mercy. Oh, bro. Marco, I'm just. I'm just a granddad. I'm about to be 57, and you

[Marco]

don't look like it.

[Joe]

I know. I ain't trying to get no girls now. I'm trying to find somebody.

[Marco]

I'm just saying I have a great appearance. I have a nice sex appeal. And I'm letting you know in this room if. If it came.

[Joe]

Did you left. Did you leave it at home?

[Marco]

I'm at home right now.

[Joe]

Oh, damn.

[Marco]

I just told you I'm in New York, bro.

[Joe]

You not in New York. That's a green screen.

[Marco]

No, it's not. No green screen.

[Shakur Stevenson]

What is going on with you?

[Marco]

I work hard for this shit.

[Joe]

I get. All you gotta do is get up and walk. Get up.

[Marco]

I'm not about to walk off on your show. I'm not doing that. I'm not rude.

[Joe]

Yes, bro. Do you understand that Ocho and I be in tv and we understand how green screen work?

[Marco]

What is. Okay. What's green screen? It's night outside. What do y' all would need to see, an airplane fly past? What do y' all want to see now? I'm in a green. I'm at my house.

[Joe]

Exactly. You end up with a green screen.

[Marco]

No, I'm at. I'm at the green room.

[Joe]

The boomboom green room. Dude, it is.

[Marco]

I'm saying. This is what I.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Hold on, hold on.

[Joe]

Hey, hey.

[Ocho]

You say, yes, I do. And that's the Hudson river behind.

[Marco]

I don't know what's back there.

[Joe]

But how the man go get. Lord have mercy.

[Ocho]

What's the name of your building?

[Marco]

I'm. That's uncalled for. I don't have to speak on where I live because that's part of my safety protocols.

[Ocho]

Well, it's pretty easy to tell based

[Marco]

on the building because it's not that pretty easy. These are $20,000 a month, partner. Okay, Anybody where you live? What's your apartment? Where's your address? Yeah, what's your address? I mean, exactly. You see, you don't just give that out.

[Joe]

That got uncomfortable.

[Marco]

Okay.

[Ashley]

Okay.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Oh, yeah, this is a lot.

[Marco]

That's why. Yeah, that's why a lot of people don't come on that damn show.

[Joe]

Yeah. Now. Now, tell us about that interview. That would have changed me asking me the whole night about that interview. What happened?

[Marco]

All right, so. All right, first off, let's say this while we talking. All right, you know what? All right, I was about to. You know, I gotta realize where you want to start.

[Joe]

I mean, how did it get. I mean, it wasn't.

[Marco]

It wasn't. It was more of like they were on a level of trolling and it was just matching it. Chicago got a nice way of trolling. So, you know, I'm saying with them, too, they was just enjoying theyself. And, you know, as a man, I could have just, you know, enjoyed it back. So it was just more of me trying to read the room. But as I'm reading it, the is real happening in real time. So they didn't mean nothing personal. They just really like trolling, you know what I'm saying? I just didn't match the troll. I wouldn't know my feet at the time.

[Joe]

Yeah, you scared?

[Marco]

Because ain't no. I wasn't. I wasn't scared because it wasn't like, you know what? Nothing. Dark. You know what I'm saying? And like, you know, in my fighter, I'm 17 0. So besides that, in school, my school I went to, but I ain't seen

[Joe]

that water move yet. How you got steel water behind you?

[Marco]

What are you talking about?

[Shakur Stevenson]

I ain't seen no boat.

[Joe]

I ain't see the water move.

[Marco]

Yeah, because it's nighttime.

[Joe]

Water move at night time, it just becomes. Oh, so both don't. Can't go at night, huh?

[Ocho]

Where the ferry at? I don't see no fair.

[Joe]

New York ain't no plane. Ain't no bird flew by.

[Marco]

I just moved in here. As y' all can see, it's not furnished or nothing. I just moved there. I just got a computer.

[Joe]

I ain't talking about department. I'm talking.

[Ocho]

Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. You told us. You told us it cost $20,000 a

[Joe]

month because it was fully furnished.

[Marco]

I know, but I got to pick the furniture out.

[Joe]

No, if it's furnished. It already comes with furniture. You just move in.

[Marco]

No, but I gotta pick the certain type of furniture.

[Joe]

No, you don't.

[Marco]

Back.

[Joe]

Furnace department.

[Marco]

If I get up. See, you see me scoot.

[Joe]

Yeah, so. Yeah, I see. Come on back. You come on back. Yeah, Chad. You see, that's how you know. You see what happened. Exactly. That's all I wanted him to do, Ocho was move and show the chat.

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[Joe]

That was a green screen. We got a very special guest joining us tonight. Here he is. Comes off a dominant unanimous decision victory over Teofimo Lopez in the super lightweight title. File sold out Madison Square Garden in January earned him a world championship in his fourth weight class. Further cemented his place among boxing pound for pound elite. Harry is Shakur Stevenson. Steve Shakur. How you doing, bro? You muted,

[Shakur Stevenson]

you gave me.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We got you. How you doing, bro?

[Shakur Stevenson]

What up?

[Joe]

Give us the good. Give us the good news. What, what transpired. So is reported that you're joining Zofa Boxing. Explain to our people in the chat and our listeners and our viewers, what is what, Zephyr, what is that? And. And what's your role in it now?

[Shakur Stevenson]

Zoof is on a company that's ran by Dana White, White and Nick Khan. Nikon does the wwe, but he's now with Zufa and Dana White is with ufc, but he's now entering boxing too. So it's an amazing company. I mean, I'm the leader of the company. I'm the next, the biggest name with the company. And now that I'm here, it's like they got the best of the best with them. So it's all good.

[Ocho]

Now.

[Joe]

What, what, what was your decision? What went in your decision? Because like you said, it is a new company, and here you are, you got a championship in four different weight classes. Like you said, you are the biggest name. Normally a people that with big names, they like, okay, let me wait, let me see how this thing shake out. Let me let them get all the kinks out. And then once I see us flourishing, I'll go over there. Then why were you so willing to put your name in this situation with a very, very young company?

[Shakur Stevenson]

I mean, first priority is I love to get paid, I love getting money. So at the end of the day, that's what a lot of people said, I wouldn't be in this position. They said I was boring. They said my style is this. But now that we here, I could sit here and tell y', all, I told y' all so. But other than that. But other than that, also, I want the big fights. And they got a big vision for me, and they big vision was put me in the ring with the big guys like the Devin Haneys, the Javante, Tank Davis, and that's the, that I live for. That's the. That I'm in boxing for. And I can't wait to show my

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worth

[Ocho]

and Listen, I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you called out two names, obviously. Tank Davis, Devin Haney. But the problem is, and one for me, being a boxing purist and loving, loving the sport, loving you as one of. One of my favorite fighters, and being able to watch now that I know exactly what I'm watching, being able to create, critique, and analyze you round by round. What is so difficult about making these fights happen? Why is it so difficult for. For. Obviously we know Tank is having this issues, but Devin Haney, I see you and him sometime go back and forth on. On X most of the time. Why is it so difficult? Is it too. Too many moving parts? Is the money right? Is the money not right? What. What's taking so long for. For us as fans?

[Shakur Stevenson]

I don't think nothing is taking so long no more. I think right now is the right time. I think everything is in the cards of our favor and there's no excuses for why that fight can't happen next. I think me and Devin should be the fight that happened next. I agreed to 144 and he said he agreed to it. So now if he do his part, I'm going to do my part and let's make it happen.

[Joe]

Why the catch weight, though, Shakur? Why the catch weight? Why not. Why not 40? I don't know if he can go back down to 35, but why 44? Why not 40 or 47?

[Shakur Stevenson]

40. I will be bringing him down and draining him. And then we would have excuses about why. And then 147, he's. I'm not a 47 pound. I'm a 35 pounder, naturally. Like, I can still make 35 easily, but I'm willing to take risks. Like, I don't give a that he's going to get in the ring 20 pounds bigger. I'm gonna beat him while he's 20 pounds bigger, and that's gonna make my win even greater. So he agreed to 144. I agree to win now we're here, let's do it.

[Ocho]

And in matter of fact, and also if this doesn't happen right soon, I'm not sure how long of a layoff you would like, how many times you want to actually fight this year? If David, if Devin Haney and his pops and his in his team take too long, is there anywhere else, anywhere else in mind that you would, you would love to fight before the year?

[Shakur Stevenson]

Yeah, I like the, the fighters like the Gary Russells and the Lamont Roaches and honestly, like, speaking like I'm at a point in my career that I don't need nobody. I don't need Devin Haney, I don't need Javante, Tank Davis. I can make millions and millions of dollars now with Zoo for boxing and fight big names like Gary, Antoine Russell and Lamar Rose. I'm into the sport for this reason that now I'm top dog now. So it felt good.

[Ocho]

I like that. So you are the A side now, Obviously, the game is. It's called prize fighting. And now you're in a position to where you're able to be the shot caller and pick and choose who you want to fight. And I mean, hell, I tell you, I'm excited. I'm excited for you. Congratulations. And I'm looking forward to whether it's Gary, whether it's Tank somewhere down the line, or Devin Haney. I hope it happened before the year is out.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, hey, Shakur. What's up, bro? I see you shining over there, ain't you, man? Yeah, yeah.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Hey, hey, take me.

[Joe]

Take. Take me to fight night, bro. Take me to fight night. What goes through your mind, like, the anxiety, you know, before you go out in the ring? What you telling yourself, you know, before when you taking that walk to the ring? What. What is it like? What's going through you?

[Shakur Stevenson]

I ain't gonna lie. My last few fights, it felt like destiny. I ain't really had too much anxiety. I wasn't too nervous. It felt like I was meant to be where I was supposed to be, and I let destiny take care of itself. So I turned into a different mold come fight night. Like, I know it's either me or that guy. And you go, watch my face before the fight. You seen my face. Go look at Teoface. You just see who was going to win and who was going to lose. It was all written right over. Right over us. So, man, I'm the best in the world, and I can't wait to show why I'm the best in the world. Under them bright lights, any of these guys get in front of me, I'm coming to perform.

[Joe]

Okay, Let me ask you this. By you joining Zuffa, does it make it more difficult? Because people gonna say now, well, his. Their side is gonna say, well, we want this. And your side is gonna say, no, you can't have that because we got the A fighter. You're the.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Boxing don't work this way no more, man. That's, at the end of the day, unknown. All of us is under one umbrella. All of us is with Turkey. Turkey Brings all these guys to one room, okay? When they in one room, we all can do business with one another. So if anybody don't want to fight, they scared to fight. And that's the God's honest truth, okay?

[Joe]

That's what I like to hear, because these are the fights. And look, Ocho is our boxing aficionado, but I grew up in the 80s, and I remember the Four Kings, and I remember the 70s with all the heavyweights. They fought everybody. And. And then you had Sugar Ray and Hearns and. And. And Duran and Iran Barkley and Mark. They fought, and they fought everybody. You guys in an era, because like you said yourself and Tank, Davis and Russell and Roach and Haney, you guys should be fighting. And there's money to be made. People want to see the best fight. The best. And then we get determined. Hey, all I know is in the 2020s, man. Man, tank and. And Shakur, boy, they got down.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I been told y' all that I was one of the best fighters in the world. A lot of people ain't believe me. Well, now we hear opportunity is here. And if any of these guys want to smoke with me, I'm right here. I'm not ducking, but Shakur, you saying that.

[Joe]

Let me ask you a question. If people had. If you had never saw. If Jordan had never played and he says I'm the best basketball player, would you have believed it? He had to show you. Or Shaq or Kobe says I'm the best without showing it. You're not gonna believe it.

[Shakur Stevenson]

The writing been on the wall the whole time, and I showed it, and y' all just ain't.

[Joe]

I can't read.

[Shakur Stevenson]

And then you blind in the. You blinding the. It already been there. Tia. FEMA was. Was an example. I made an example out of him. And these guys are gonna get examples made out of them, too.

[Joe]

Well, that's what we would like to hear. We like to see that fight. So is it. Is it possible we could get one of those Ochos? You. You mentioned it. Is there something that we could get? Because you fought Teofimo, and I think January. Is there possible we can get another fight?

[Shakur Stevenson]

Say, like, September, 40 years out? I'm fighting. I fight twice a year. That's what I do. So before the year is out, any of these guys, if they ready to sign the dotted line, any one of them, I'm ready right this second.

[Ocho]

And the good thing about it is what I like about what. Turkey's also done. And obviously, Dana White and Zufil. Boxing is the money's so good now that there should be no reason why the fight can't happen. So we can't. It's called prize fighting for the reason. And we have people in the game now that are paying these fighters to make these fights happen that we as fans want to see. So I'm excited, you know, Brother Haney, Mr. Haney. Should be no reason. You know, there's really no reason to stall. 144 it is. And let's get it on, you know, in the meantime, right now anyway. Okay.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Okay, man, you gotta go pay attention to them fights. You just, you know, you. You kind of behind right now. Go watch some fights and it'll show you everything you need to see.

[Ocho]

I'm gonna teach you. I'm teaching you. You don't know what he.

[Joe]

I'm not seeing, I'm teaching. I think the thing is that we're saying what you. There's something getting lost in translation. I'm not saying that you're not a great fighter, that you're not a champion. I'm not saying that. But I think people won't. And you do a great job of hitting and not getting hit, but I think sometimes people want to see you put yourself in. In. In. In harm's way and get down. And I'm not saying look. And that's what you. You have to do sometimes. You're gonna have.

[Shakur Stevenson]

When you step in that ring, you in harm's way.

[Joe]

I disagree with. Okay, go ahead.

[Shakur Stevenson]

If you put on the boxing gloves before, you'll understand that when you step in that motherfucking square circle, you in harm's way. And when you go watch my last fight, since you saying I don't put myself in harm's way, who was backing up? Me and Tio.

[Joe]

Are you backing him up?

[Shakur Stevenson]

Who's backing up?

[Joe]

You backed him up.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I wasn't. I in harm's way.

[Ocho]

Hey, you said. You said you was gonna do that too.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I wasn't. I in harm's way.

[Joe]

You weren't. But when I think. I never thought you could. I didn't think you could lose the Teofimo. Now, if you back up Tank, you back up Haney, you back up those guys, I'm gonna come on here and say, ocho, he made me. He proved me to be a liar. I said he wasn't gonna be.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Would have never bet no money that I was gonna be Tia female. The way that I beat him.

[Joe]

Yes, I would have.

[Shakur Stevenson]

The way that I beat him. No, you wouldn't.

[Joe]

No, no, no, No, I would.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Ain't nobody better.

[Joe]

You were gonna win the fight, Shakur. I can't. I don't think. I don't prize pick a polymarker or somebody say, well, how bad is he gonna beat him? Well, he gonna beat him this bad and then let me down. I would have. I would have bet money that you would have won.

[Shakur Stevenson]

They said I was gonna run. Who ran?

[Joe]

But if you. If you win, it doesn't. At the end of the day, if you win. But for me, I think for me, I'm just like. I've seen guys your size fight. Mayweather coming up through the ranks and was flooring people till his hands became brittle. And I watched Sugar Ray and I watched and Hearns and I watched these great.

[Shakur Stevenson]

What I'm confused about is now it sounds like you're downplaying to. Like, it sounds like this is downplaying. Like, who to is. I mean, to done showed you how great he is in other fights. Why wasn't he that great that night?

[Joe]

Not saying he's not.

[Shakur Stevenson]

And we could talk about the way that you fight. No, I'm not into hitting and being hit, if that's what you're asking me. I won't do that. I will hit.

[Joe]

Are you. Are you. So, so. Are you trying to be. Are you trying to be. When they talk about lightweights and super lightweights and. And. And. And junior welderweights, are you trying to be in that shoe?

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'm not comparing myself to none of these dudes. I'm trying to be the first Shakur Stevenson, you are. At the end of my career, I

[Joe]

don't believe they'll rank you like that.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You're gonna say, why was his fight so easy? Why wasn't he hurt? Why was. Well, because I'm that great. That's what you're gonna say.

[Joe]

We're not saying that you're not great, Shakur. But I don't believe. And this is me, this is my opinion. Joe has his opinion. Ocho believes you hung the moon. I don't believe that you're going to get the credit you deserve without knocking people out.

[Shakur Stevenson]

That's why. That's why you never boxed before.

[Ocho]

It's not boxing. Boxing.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I know you never boxed before. You could talk about Floyd Mayweather, say, the guys that he knocked out, but in the tail end of his prom, he wasn't just knocking guys out. This is not true.

[Joe]

No, because.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Exactly. I got hand problems, too. What's the. What's the difference?

[Joe]

I didn't know that my Bad.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Everybody know that. That's why you ain't been doing your homework. You got to do your homework.

[Ocho]

Hey, but hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I mean, listen. I love boxing, Joe. I'm sure you watch it. You watch it as well. But boxing is more than just knockouts. Now, knockouts, being able to have it is really good. Like being a guy, being a slugger in baseball and hitting home runs, the fans love it. But most of the time, when it comes to some of the greats, that's not all boxing is. They call it the street sign.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Oh, you're just not in tune. You got to get in tune. Go do some homework. Man, you got all abs.

[Joe]

I grew up in. But. But you can't. You can't say just because I don't like your style that I don't know why you don't. I grew up in an era where sugar rating it was not.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You told me that I don't put myself in harm's way by getting in the ring. That's what you told me. That let me know that you don't do your homework.

[Joe]

You talk about one fight, you talk about tfimo. What about all the other fights?

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'm not any fight about you.

[Joe]

I was wondering one thing. Am I the only one that's ever said that about your fighting style? Yes.

[Shakur Stevenson]

A lot of people that don't know boxes say that.

[Joe]

No, no, no, no.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Am I the only ones of public opinion for characters? Are you the only caster that said this? No, you are not. Are you the only casual that said there's.

[Marco]

No.

[Ashley Iconetti]

You are not.

[Joe]

Let me ask you a question. So no other fighter has said that about your fighting style? That they're not. They're not happy with your fighting style?

[Shakur Stevenson]

Fighters praise my fighting style. You know how many fighters wish they could fight like me? Can I talk? You know how many people go home with. Wait, wait, wait. Gotta go to the doctor. Gotta go get their brain checked out. Gotta go. They wish they could do what I do. They pray. Like, I wish I had them skills. If I had them skills, they will go home to their family safely. You know, people don't go to their family safely.

[Marco]

Huh?

[Joe]

So no boxer. No boxer. No guy that's ever fought has said anything that I've said about your fighting style.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You asking a subjective question. I can't tell you. I'm telling you that. You sound like a subjective.

[Joe]

Why are you getting so upset with me?

[Shakur Stevenson]

We debating. We having a good debate. I called you up one Hundred times. I mean, I look at you like the Unc, right? So I got respect for you.

[Joe]

I got respect.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I don't got respect for you not doing your homework. I don't got respect for that. Do your homework and stop getting.

[Joe]

Huh?

[Ocho]

You say you getting.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You gotta have all your homework.

[Joe]

You said okay. It's hard for me to believe all the fighters that I can remember that. That people put a play place up high were entertaining. They put, they, they. And I'm not saying that you got to put yourself

[Shakur Stevenson]

fans that enjoy the sport of boxing. I'm very entertaining. Hey, hey. Ooh. Oo. Am I entertaining?

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Marco]

Hello.

[Joe]

Yeah, you gotta pull. You gotta be able to pull the non boxing fan in Shakur. You get those. You already got those guys. You already got the boxing fan.

[Shakur Stevenson]

For millions of dollars, man, I don't have to do nothing but go down there and do my job.

[Joe]

Okay?

[Shakur Stevenson]

Appreciate you, man. That's. That's what I love. Doing my job, man.

[Ocho]

Hey, you can't. Can we talk about something more important, Uncle Joe, when the.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Oh, me and you are. You been ducking me and.

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You heard me.

[Ocho]

I'm talking.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Stop dunking me.

[Ocho]

Hey, you. You in Vegas, right? You in Vegas?

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'm in Vegas right now. I'm in Vegas right now.

[Joe]

You were supposed. First of all, you and Joe was supposed to be out here this week. Cause Conor McGregor fight on Saturday

[Shakur Stevenson]

and I'm gonna be at the fight. Hey, hey.

[Ocho]

I think Unc should get in the ring.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, hey, hey.

[Shakur Stevenson]

He too small.

[Joe]

You know he too small.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Throw a punch in your life.

[Joe]

I know.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You ever got into a fight?

[Joe]

Hey, 130.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Hey, Hug. Have you ever got into a fight?

[Joe]

Yeah, but a street fight on the boxing match is something entirely different. It ain't no rule. They're rules in boxing.

[Shakur Stevenson]

A boxing fight lasts 36 minutes. You fighting in the street fight for a minute. Top 30 seconds exactly.

[Joe]

Hold up, you think, hold up. This thing ain't going to distance.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You not gonna land on me.

[Joe]

You heard what he said. This thing is 36 minutes.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Ain't no losing.

[Joe]

Street fighting ain't no endurance, Shakur. I'm 58. I got kids.

[Ocho]

It sound like Unc say he'll walk

[Shakur Stevenson]

you on the street fight.

[Ocho]

That's what it sound like to me.

[Joe]

No chance. Hey, Shakur, I would tell you like this. Go ahead and get turkey money. Go ahead, get turkey money. You got a promising career. That will end.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I promise you.

[Joe]

That would end. Ain't no way. Mma. Hey, I'll fold your ass up like a lawn chair.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I guarantee you won't. All right them knees. What don't need. I don't need spill.

[Joe]

You won't ever know. You better keep it on you, Shakur. Shakur, you in a great spot. You just signed with Zelpa. Don't mess your money up.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You will never see that money, man. Keep it on you, man.

[Ocho]

Hey, I gotta see this, man. We gotta set it up, man.

[Shakur Stevenson]

We gotta set it up.

[Joe]

Shakur, you just said you ain't got no problem making 140. If you ain't got no problem making 140, you probably walk around somewhere between

[Shakur Stevenson]

38 and 45, I'm gonna tell you.

[Joe]

I know.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'm not worried about you, though. I'm not.

[Joe]

That's a hostile takeover, big guy takeover.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'm straight. Straight to your knees. I'm going straight to. I'm telling you that.

[Joe]

But, but see, that's your mistake. Cause you got to get close. You ain't got no reach like that.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You gonna try to get close to me? And he got that jab. Hey, Shakur, I'll let you come to me.

[Joe]

I'm gonna let you.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You got 30 seconds, and you're 30 second piece. You gotta get rid of the fight.

[Joe]

If. If. As long as I don't engage. But I know you go. I know you go driving at your knees.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'm just waiting tell you now, you,

[Joe]

too, going at your knees to do what?

[Ocho]

If he need you, though,

[Joe]

I could, you know,

[Shakur Stevenson]

hit your spine.

[Joe]

Leave me alone at 5, 430.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Just chill. Just chill like I'm with you, man.

[Joe]

I do it. I do it for charity. I get.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I, I. I get the ring you want, I will.

[Ocho]

Now let me do. Let me know. No, no, no. Don't let him duck me. Don't let.

[Joe]

I'm saying the ring I'm talking about. We got parking lot, all that trash. Same day.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Same day.

[Ocho]

Hold on.

[Joe]

Well, you better get Ocho first.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Hey, hold on, hold on.

[Ocho]

If he. If he go with me first,

[Shakur Stevenson]

I don't want no smoke.

[Joe]

No, no, no.

[Ocho]

I got. You owe me a sparring session, Ocho. Okay. Hey, hold on. Run it. Running clock. Running clock. What you mean, running clock?

[Joe]

I want that.

[Ocho]

I don't want the clock on. Just a running clock.

[Shakur Stevenson]

So you want to. You, You're. You're.

[Ocho]

You're tripping.

[Shakur Stevenson]

No, you're.

[Ocho]

No, you scared.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You told me before that you didn't even want to spar as many minute rounds as I wanted to spar.

[Ocho]

No, no, I'm Saying.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Did you not say that?

[Ocho]

I don't want you to say that. Break just a running.

[Marco]

Get tired.

[Ocho]

No, I'm saying I always. I always use a running clock.

[Joe]

That man say you want to start

[Shakur Stevenson]

10 minute rounds,

[Tab Ramos]

huh?

[Ocho]

Okay, cool. Bet we could do three of them.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Three 10 minute rounds. I bet you won't last. Hold on, I'm.

[Ocho]

I'm dictating the pace.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I don't care what you do.

[Ocho]

I don't care about you pressuring. I don't.

[Marco]

Good, good.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Y know what it is.

[Ocho]

Okay. All right.

[Joe]

OO Oo I'm let. OO I'm let go. OO hand it, cu. You ain't in my way.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You got to be at least on your knees. You ain't gonna walk no more.

[Joe]

Hey, I. I would. It don't seem right, man. You. You jumped on Shakur,

[Ocho]

man.

[Shakur Stevenson]

This is street fighting, man. We not talking boxing. I am not just a boxer. I am from North New Jersey. You better ask about me.

[Joe]

Hey, them ninjas get knocked out, too? I don't know why y' all think y' all from New York and Jersey think y' all can't get forward.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Where you from?

[Joe]

I'm from. I'm from Georgia. G8. Glenville Country. South Georgia ain't never. We'll be on the map if I whip your ass. We got two hall of Famers, but I'll be the one that whipped you.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You your first one, man. You gonna need more than no steroids, man.

[Joe]

Ain't no steroids here, bro. Don't shortchange me.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Don't shortchange my hard work.

[Joe]

You see? You see? Hey, Joe. You see what he's trying to do? He trying to shortchange my work.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Ass.

[Joe]

Yeah, it feel like steroids, Steroid, epo, growth hormone.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'm with y', all, man. I'm with y', all, man.

[Ocho]

I'm just playing, man.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Y.

[Zepbound Representative]

Good.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Hey, do your homework.

[Joe]

Hey, you going to the fight? You going to fight?

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'll be there.

[Joe]

All right, I'mma go.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'mma go to the fight.

[Marco]

Hey, you got.

[Joe]

Hey, you got one for me? I'm.

[Warning Announcer]

I'm.

[Marco]

Pull up.

[Joe]

Hey, I call. Hey, I called the guy tomorrow.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I can't wait to see you on.

[Joe]

I hit you up, Joe.

[Ocho]

Hey, y' all do a face off with y'?

[Shakur Stevenson]

All. I might hit his knees before the face off.

[Joe]

First of all, I ain't bringing no stamp stool. How we gonna do a face off? That man be looking at my belly button. Hold on.

[Shakur Stevenson]

That was me.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, man.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, you know what?

[Marco]

I'm.

[Joe]

Ocho, I don't got. Too old to tussle. Ocho, go spot this man, give him one round for 10 minutes, lump him up, and that we go. As a matter of fact, we're gonna have the crew. There we go.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Money on that.

[Joe]

Yeah, I got my money on.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You wouldn't bet no money.

[Joe]

I put my money on Ocho.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Damn, Joe.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, I know Ocho. I know, Joe.

[Ocho]

Joe, you know, I've been boxing for 10 years now, Joe.

[Marco]

How you gonna get.

[Joe]

Yeah, I love you like a play, cousin Ocho, but I gotta keep it 100, you know what I mean? I. I don't think you going to be able to beat Shakur, bro. OO going to smother. OO going to smother him, Joe.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, Joe. I've been studying Shakur like a. Like. Like a. Like a goddamn professor. I know every move.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Invest some money on it.

[Joe]

Hey, I'm taking. Okay.

[Ocho]

Make it lighter.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Whatever y' all want.

[Joe]

10.

[Marco]

What?

[Joe]

10 bands. 10 bands.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'll take. I'll take a.

[Joe]

Yeah, me and Shakur. Oo, how you feeling? Oo.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey. I'm feeling. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Hey, you know what?

[Ocho]

Hey, you know what? I'mma do you a favor. I'mma sit in the pocket the whole day, for real.

[Joe]

Damn.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Hey, you been doing your sit ups.

[Ocho]

Hey, Shakur, I done studied you.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You been doing your sit ups.

[Ocho]

I studied you to a T. You

[Shakur Stevenson]

got to stop being McDonald's every day. You got to leave that shit alone. I've been studying you, too, know you be eating.

[Joe]

I've been studying you, too.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Stop eating McDonald's and you might have a better chance.

[Ocho]

No, no, no. I'm have a chance regardless. I'm gonna lump you up. I'm not. I'm not.

[Joe]

Hey, he be in the gym every day.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'll be in the gym.

[Ocho]

He know that. You ain't no gym rapper.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Do your homework, man. I keep trying to tell y' all to do y'.

[Ocho]

All.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Y' all not doing your homework, man. Go ask about them. You. If you say I. You be in the gym more than me. You don't do your homework?

[Joe]

No, I've been in the gym. He wasn't even born when I was in the gym. That's your thing about. But he is in the gym. He be putting his time in. I don't. I don't know if he be smart or what. He.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Hours. I'm in that for hours. Like, I don't I don't get out.

[Ocho]

Oh, I'm.

[Joe]

I'm an hour. An hour, not hours.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Yeah, that ain't.

[Joe]

I work.

[Ocho]

Hey, I spar on Friday.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Hey, man, listen. Next time I'm in Florida, I'll link up with you. Next time I'm in Florida, I'll link up with you. He's scared. You don't want to come to the park.

[Joe]

Where's home for you?

[Shakur Stevenson]

Come to the fight.

[Joe]

Where's home?

[Shakur Stevenson]

You said, where's home? Houston.

[Ocho]

Houston.

[Joe]

Yeah, for you. Houston. Oh, okay.

[Ocho]

Oh, oh, that's. Hey, hey, there it is.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Ocho]

You can take another Houston. Take another Houston trip.

[Joe]

Pull up.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, before you get it. Hey, before you get in the ring with me, ask Ronnie Shields about me when I do all this fighting.

[Ashley Iconetti]

Who you

[Shakur Stevenson]

name? Both.

[Ocho]

Charlo.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You act like you put hands on Charlo. You ain't putting no hands on Charlo.

[Ocho]

No, but I'm in the ring with him.

[Joe]

He took a couple of blows from me.

[Ocho]

Charlotte, your ass say, don't worry about it. Hey, Adam, I' ma put your ass down.

[Joe]

Damn. Don't be mad at me, Ocho. You can't. You can't. You can't fight. You. You can't fight your boy now.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, we gonna hold on.

[Joe]

You gonna use your jab.

[Ocho]

That's all I need.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Damn, he going down. Hey, he's going down for one.

[Ocho]

I'm gonna be on the phone.

[Shakur Stevenson]

He's going down.

[Ocho]

I'm gonna be on the body shot.

[Shakur Stevenson]

He's going down. Trust me, he's going down.

[Marco]

We.

[Ocho]

We got the same. We got the same defense.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I got the same defense.

[Ocho]

He's not gonna be able to get nothing.

[Joe]

Hell no. Hell no.

[Tab Ramos]

What?

[Joe]

But Ocho say he be pairing punches. He say, hey, everything you throw, he shooting it down.

[Ocho]

Hey, I'm. I'm. I'm blocking Perry. I'm getting that. Man, get that up out of here. And I'm gonna talk to you the whole.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'll put one glove on.

[Ocho]

Okay,

[Joe]

So we can't. No, but all seriousness, I mean, we appreciate your time tonight, but we can expect you to be in the ring at some time before the end of the year.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Yeah, for sure. I mean, I'm in the ring before the end of the year, for sure.

[Joe]

So one of the four fighters is either gonna be Tank, it's gonna be Haney, it's gonna be Russell, or it's gonna be Roach. It's gonna be one of those four fights.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Yes, that's what I want. Yes.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Ocho]

Yeah. I like it.

[Marco]

I like it.

[Joe]

I like it. Now, I just want you to know the Nightcap crew gonna be there.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I just. Yo. I want you to ever bet against me. That's what I want. I want you to bet against me.

[Joe]

No. Why would I do that?

[Shakur Stevenson]

Okay. Oh, he's scared.

[Joe]

Hey, I ain't gonna lie to you. Now you get it? That would take. I might. I might have to put a little paper.

[Zepbound Representative]

Me.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Can you bet me? I. I want to do. Yeah, put the paper with me.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Oh, so we're gonna be locked. Perfect.

[Joe]

Yeah, I bet. I bet.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Perfect.

[Joe]

I don't really like. I don't really like to bet no money, but.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Say no more.

[Commercial Announcer]

I bet.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Say no more.

[Joe]

I bet you.

[Ocho]

I like it.

[Joe]

Hey, come on. Hey, I need to put a call in the tank. Anybody got tank number?

[Shakur Stevenson]

Stay no more, man. Just make sure you bet me. That's all I ask.

[Joe]

Oh, I don't. I don't bet no book. I. I don't really bet. I mean, me and Ocho, we have three.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I want real money, though. Don't play around with it. I want real money.

[Warning Announcer]

Hold on.

[Ocho]

Money? What you mean, real money?

[Shakur Stevenson]

Like something like you got real faith in that person.

[Joe]

But here's the thing. The problem with betting is that it's just like anything else. When you bet, you don't really control the outcome. Somebody else is.

[Shakur Stevenson]

No, but I'm betting against you, So I control the outcome. So.

[Joe]

But I. But I ain't in the ring with you.

[Shakur Stevenson]

But it's about what you believe in. What you believe.

[Joe]

I believe. Yeah, I'm about you.

[Shakur Stevenson]

But are you gonna bet? Bet me. Not just bet me.

[Joe]

Bet.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Bet.

[Joe]

I'm going to bet you bet me. Oh, Lord, have me.

[Ocho]

He wants. He won't realize.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I want to dig into your pockets.

[Ocho]

I want just know. No.

[Joe]

What are you thinking? More like 40, 50k?

[Shakur Stevenson]

I think more than that.

[Joe]

Damn.

[Ben]

Damn.

[Joe]

Well, hey, when that time you fight Tank, we'll come up with something. We'll come up something to make it work.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Appreciate you.

[Ocho]

Perfect. Give me 10. Give me 10. I'm telling. Give me 10.

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[Ashley]

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[Warning Announcer]

Because I'm.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I told you.

[Ashley]

Good.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You come to camp anytime.

[Joe]

Nah, don't. Hey, see, there you go. There you go, Shakur. Don't break. Don't bring that black cat.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I haven't been to camp with him before. He worked.

[Ocho]

See, I'll be doing this for real.

[Joe]

I mean, everybody came over here. You've been. You go to the camp.

[Ocho]

Hey, yeah, get my ass beat the up. It's all good, though.

[Joe]

Wear your head gear. You. Hey, you say you have some head

[Ocho]

everything right here in the garage.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Put my gloves at

[Joe]

he stay pulling out that little one. Glove on the man. Hey, hey, Shakur.

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Okay. Oh, you got the winnings. Oh, that's Everlast. Is that what you trade? You trade? You fighting now.

[Ocho]

Fighting rival

[Joe]

you fighting? What rivalry? Okay, I ain't never heard of them. I just heard of Everlast winning. Does anybody fight in Reyes anymore?

[Shakur Stevenson]

Reyes gloves No, I don't like those. I think most of the Mexicans fight in them.

[Ocho]

Yeah, Mexican.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah, that's.

[Commercial Voice]

Yeah.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Hey, throw a real punch. Throw a real punch.

[Joe]

Hey, I'm Captain Hook Number two.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Let me see a real punch, though. Let me see, like. Let me see one of these. A little shadow box.

[Joe]

No, I ain't gonna give you no cute cues.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Let me see something like. Let me see.

[Joe]

Hey, you gonna see it?

[Shakur Stevenson]

Let me see. What the hell was that?

[Joe]

What's this?

[Shakur Stevenson]

What's that? Let me see.

[Joe]

Oh, that's your. Hey, think about this.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I know when a. I know when a p. Man.

[Ocho]

Throw.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Throw a punch. I want to see a punch.

[Marco]

Thr.

[Joe]

That's your whole face, Shakur. That's from ear to ear.

[Tab Ramos]

Punch.

[Joe]

I hit.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Throw a punch, huh? Uppercut, hook.

[Joe]

I don't even throw. No, you. You go beg me to stop throwing punch.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Uppercut or a hook.

[Joe]

You go beg. Stop throwing them. Damn, man, I.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Now, I know you bluffing. You telling me you bluffing.

[Zepbound Representative]

Let me see.

[Commercial Announcer]

See.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Let me see a little, like. Ain't got nothing.

[Joe]

See? Hey, all that right there, I'm coming through that guard. That little. That little stuff, right? I'm eating that up.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I see. I seen you throw something at bud like a little play joint. Like you ain't really.

[Joe]

Hey, I tell you what. Hey, the little cake blows. If you can't knock out Tfimo, you damn sure can't knock me out. And Te fimo one beat your ass.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Ass.

[Joe]

I said you. You couldn't knock him out.

[Shakur Stevenson]

But you talk about you going was bigger than me. I came up to his weight class.

[Joe]

Mickey Mouse bigger than me.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I came up to his weight class. He wasn't 130. I was 135. He was 140.

[Joe]

What one? Hey, hey, I eat 140 pounds worth of food.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Will beat your ass. You. You said, Tio, you say I could not come out, so. No, you will beat your ass.

[Joe]

That ain't got nothing.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I know.

[Joe]

I ain't betting you.

[Ocho]

You ain't doing that.

[Joe]

I'm betting Tank against.

[Shakur Stevenson]

No, you're not. You bluffing.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, Shakur, make it happen.

[Joe]

I'm ready to fight. You said one of those four fighters.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You tell Tank to fight me. Why haven't he fight. Why haven't he for me?

[Joe]

He got some issues right now, okay? Give him. Give him a minute. He got to get that settled. He wants to get that settled.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'm all for that. I mean, if he got his situation with his. I don't wish no bad upon no man. I don't wish no bad no jail or none of that stuff. I, I, you know, I hope he get everything right with his personal life. But, but, but, but, but you. You ain't gonna bet that money for real. You bluffy. I'm going bad.

[Joe]

I'm going back.

[Ocho]

It might not be. Hey, the bet might not be. Oh, he's gonna.

[Shakur Stevenson]

He gonna bet something right now.

[Ocho]

He gonna. He gonna bet something nice, but not. He ain't betting no hundred thousand. What are you gonna bet, dude?

[Joe]

What's the number we gonna bet?

[Shakur Stevenson]

I say that's, that's what you're gonna bet. Oh, oh, oh. I'm catching up right now. When he go back. What that got to do with you right now? What you going back? Don't save them.

[Ocho]

I'm saying the numbers don't say I get my cut.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Oh, you said he mug.

[Joe]

Hold on. What you mean, save me?

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, Shakur. Yo, I know you had. You had a lot to say about that situation that I went through last year. Don't let that situation.

[Shakur Stevenson]

What situation?

[Joe]

I still would write a check. The bank can't. The bank account.

[Shakur Stevenson]

What situation?

[Joe]

I know you've been. I know you've been fighting for a minute.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'm confused. What situation you talking about?

[Joe]

Don't worry about it. We'll. We'll talk off screen. I know you've been fighting for a minute. Your pocket's not that deep, okay?

[Shakur Stevenson]

So, Betty, that's all I. I've never said.

[Joe]

I'mma put it out there. I'mma put it out there. You like this here? I know you've been fighting for a minute. Your pocket's not this d. I'm not

[Shakur Stevenson]

trying to have a. A competition on who POC is deep.

[Joe]

Don't talk about. I'm scared.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'm not. I'm not trying to have competition off of who POC is deeper.

[Ocho]

You.

[Joe]

You okay? How old are you? Because you talking about. Oh, you not going or you scared? Ain't no scared here.

[Shakur Stevenson]

How old are you? Okay, how old are you?

[Joe]

Hey, don't worry about how old are you? The money.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Hold on. How old are you?

[Joe]

I don't know how old I am,

[Shakur Stevenson]

but I tell you, when I get your age, I have more money than you.

[Joe]

They take, bro. All I' ma say is this. All I'm gonna say is this. They still take money from the 1800s, so money don't get old.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'm down. But you went to a place where I'm ready to Go.

[Joe]

Once I get your ass, I ain't gonna bet. No, you kept saying, once I get

[Shakur Stevenson]

your ass, like I ain't got no money.

[Joe]

Look here, I gotta know when I leave here, I'm gonna leave my kids in a better situation.

[Shakur Stevenson]

That's why I say we ain't even. We ain't got to go to, you know, you say something about the situation. I ain't say nothing about your situation.

[Joe]

No, I. No, you did. You did. You was talking because you heard what I said. I heard what you said. Somebody sent it to me that he got in the situation. I heard what you said and, you know, you said it. Don't probably I've been mad.

[Shakur Stevenson]

But you talking about you got more money than me right now. I'm telling you, by the time I get your age, I bet I got more money than you.

[Joe]

No, what? I said, what? Hold on. Hope you live to get my age.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I will. I'm gonna be here.

[Joe]

I've been your age. You've never been mine.

[Ocho]

You're right.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I agree. I'm gonna be it, though.

[Joe]

I said this. I heard you say, you know, so what happened is that you didn't like what I said about your style. You said something slick about the situation I went into.

[Shakur Stevenson]

That's what you did. Speaking on the style that you don't know nothing about.

[Joe]

That's nothing personal. That's my opinion. You.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Hold on, hold up.

[Joe]

That's my.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Let me. Let me. Let me get this straight, right. You sitting here telling me, oh, you boring. And you, this, you. You like talking to me? You like talking to me, huh?

[Ben]

Okay, I do.

[Joe]

But let me ask you a question. Who your fate? Who's the best basketball player in the NBA?

[Shakur Stevenson]

Kawhi Leonard.

[Joe]

See, that's your opinion. Ain't nobody else. But see, you got upset. You see, Joe didn't get upset. Ocho didn't get upset. I didn't get upset. That's your opinion. You got upset at me because. And I told Ocho, I said, ocho, he's an amazing fighter. I said that. But you left. But, see, you didn't want to hear that part. You just like the part. Like that style is not entertaining to me. That's what I said. That was my exact word. I said, ocho, he's amazing. And the number that he did on Teofimo tonight, when you can't claim it,

[Shakur Stevenson]

then I don't respect it. Like you could say, that style is not amazing. What style is not amazing?

[Joe]

No, I didn't say. I said no. I said that style is not entertaining.

[Shakur Stevenson]

What style is not entertaining?

[Joe]

The style that you.

[Shakur Stevenson]

What is the style?

[Joe]

That style that you. You. You like. I think the thing is, is that you're more concerned with being undefeated. I would like more. I like more of a Sugar Ray. I'm like.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'm asking about the style, not what I'm concerned with. You said this style is not entertaining. So what style?

[Joe]

The style that you fight at. Is that what you did?

[Shakur Stevenson]

That's what style.

[Joe]

Now the style you can't explain. Everybody know what I'm talking about.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You know how I want you to explain it?

[Joe]

I want entertainment.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I want you to explain it when you talk.

[Joe]

I want you to Sugar Ray style. I want you to fight like. So basically, I want you to fight like Tommy Hearns. I want you to fight like Roy Jones. I want you to fight like Floyd in the. This is what you're doing.

[Shakur Stevenson]

So you know I'm not gonna disrespect them legends, right? Cause you're trying to set me up to disrespect them. When you say style, you know they took a lot of punishment.

[Joe]

I just gave you the style that

[Shakur Stevenson]

I love, a lot of punishment in the sport of boxing. I asked you to explain my style that you don't like, and you have not yet to do it.

[Joe]

Just. I want to see act. I don't see enough action from you now. The most. The most action I saw when you fought Teofimo, that was after that was

[Shakur Stevenson]

the fight you said that was boring. That's what you said right after that fight is when you said that it was boring.

[Joe]

I said you. I said you was boring before that fight.

[Shakur Stevenson]

To say it again right after that fight. No, that's where all the stuff started at. You don't remember this? If you said it after the Teo female fight and you just said that was my best fight.

[Joe]

I said this was the best fight he fought.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I said, as far as entertainment, that's how I know. You don't know what you talking about. Because when I for Zeppedo, that was a more entertaining.

[Joe]

So I'm not allowed to have. I'm not allowed to have an opinion about your fighting style?

[Shakur Stevenson]

Saying you're not allowed. I'm.

[Marco]

I'm.

[Joe]

Yes, you are.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'm trying to sit here and debate about the paint the opinion of what you're saying. I'm not saying you're not allowed. You can say whatever you want. You're a fan. I'm saying. But I want to debate about it. I want to actually get into what is what and what you're talking about. You have not yet to really explain.

[Joe]

I just explained to you I wanted to see.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Did you watch my fight with Zepeda?

[Joe]

I haven't seen.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Did you watch my fight with Zepeda?

[Joe]

I did not watch that fight.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Okay, Williams, my point, you're not in tune. You don't do your homework enough to even sing here.

[Joe]

How many? Let me ask you a question. So you think I'm the only play, the only person that haven't seen every last one of your fights?

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'm not saying every last one of my fights, but my most recent if you a fan of the sport.

[Joe]

Have you seen every last one of Kawhi's games? Have you seen every last one of Kawhi's games?

[Shakur Stevenson]

Man, listen here, that's two different things.

[Joe]

You see how ridiculous.

[Shakur Stevenson]

That's what talk about somebody playing a hundred times a fucking year and somebody that fight two times a year. You can't, you can't compare the two.

[Joe]

All I'm saying, I haven't seen everyone a Sugar Ray's fight.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'm just saying I thought a very entertaining fight with Zepeda and you did not watch. And you sitting here trying to tell me that my style is boring and I disagree with you.

[Joe]

I'm saying the fights that I've seen

[Shakur Stevenson]

and if you're not paying attention, you're not doing your homework. And it brings me back to square one that you don't do enough homework on the quarterboxes to talk on the sport of boxing.

[Joe]

I ask you, I ask you a simple question. I say, have there, are there any other fighters that's retired that said your style isn't entertaining? You hopped all around that question.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I said, I said there's 100 fighters that said entertaining. Why do you think a guy like Floyd Mayweather called me Little Tbe? I could, I could show you him telling me this personally or, or, or I'm. Or Terence Crawford or Andre War. All these great fighters surrounding me talk to me about my style. And you saying here telling me about being serious.

[Joe]

You don't have to. It's my opinion.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I know you could bad at homework. It brings me back to square one. You get.

[Joe]

But still. So let me ask you a question.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You do your homework.

[Joe]

Let me ask you a question. I just want to ask you one question. There's no fighter that's good, that's won a world championship that's retired that says your fights is entertaining.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I don't know. I can't Tell you I'm not. I don't. I don't know the answer to that.

[Joe]

But. But you could. But you can tell I don't pay attention all the good things that people are saying. You can tell me what Bud said, you can tell me what Floyd said, you could tell me what Andre Ward said, but you can't tell me any negative. So it tells me that you surrender. And that's how we are.

[Warning Announcer]

Yeah.

[Joe]

We consume the news.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'm surrounded. Finish your. Finish your sentence. You about to catch here. You about to say a cap. Sentence. I'm surrounded by what?

[Joe]

No, I'm not saying. I'm saying you consume the positive news. And so if somebody say something that you don't want to hear, you assume. Well, I don't value your opinion because you're the. You're not a. Boxing that.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You don't know about boxing. That's all I'm trying to.

[Joe]

You don't know is about basketball, but you got an opinion.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I don't try to debate. If I'm sitting here with Kawhi Leonard, I wouldn't try to debate with Kawhi Leonard about basketball.

[Joe]

I can't have an opinion about.

[Shakur Stevenson]

What I'm trying to tell you is you're being ignorant. That's it.

[Joe]

I get all that. That's fine. That's fine.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You're being ignorant,

[Joe]

Shakur. Book. Ignorant is something that should never come out of your mouth because you don't have a degree.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Okay?

[Joe]

I run circles around you in the class.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I don't give a. About a class. I've never called you ignorant.

[Joe]

I've never called you ignorant.

[Shakur Stevenson]

That had not finished high school or finished school.

[Joe]

They didn't call me ig. You did. Be respectful.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Ignorant. When it comes to the sport.

[Joe]

And talk about ignorance.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You are in boxing.

[Ocho]

You are in boxing about boxing.

[Joe]

You're ignorant about all.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I don't care. I'm not trying to be the smartest about all sports. You're trying to be smart about.

[Joe]

You're not the smartest boxer.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'm not the smartest boxer. I'm a way smarter boxer than your favorite fighter.

[Joe]

You don't know who my favorite fighter is.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I don't have to know.

[Joe]

You don't. I tell you what.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Don't be mad at me, because you can't. All right?

[Joe]

This is what I do.

[Marco]

You gotta have.

[Shakur Stevenson]

That's it. You gotta have what in boxing? I got inboxing. Yes, you gotta.

[Joe]

I have an opinion about my style and what I like to see.

[Shakur Stevenson]

And you can have Your opinion.

[Joe]

I didn't. I didn't try to say, would you this.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You can have your opinion. I don't have no problems with your opinion.

[Joe]

You just called me ignorant.

[Shakur Stevenson]

But you said you're ignorant in the sport of boxing. I done told you this a hundred times, whether you want to hear it. In boxing, you are.

[Joe]

It's my opinion and I.

[Shakur Stevenson]

It's my opinion.

[Joe]

It's my opinion. You got upset because I don't fall.

[Shakur Stevenson]

If you're not really hearing me, you're still boring. You're being ignorant because I'm listening. You're thinking that I'm calling you ignorant as a person and I'm not talking about you as a person of being ignorant. I'm speaking far as your boxing knowledge and what you're talking about in the sport of boxing. You're ignorant.

[Joe]

I listen, I'm not. I'm not a. I'm not a soccer aficionado. I know. I like Messi style.

[Shakur Stevenson]

That's cool. But if you speak on Messi and you start talking to Messi and tells Messi, oh, this is. That this Messi will call you ignorant in his sport too.

[Joe]

No, I. Ocho. Ocho and I get into debate all the time about Ronaldo and Messi. Ocho say, it's hard to say Messi ain't the goat. But I like Ronaldo's style. His style is more conducive to what I like.

[Shakur Stevenson]

It's fine.

[Joe]

That's what I'm just saying. I didn't say Ocho. No.

[Shakur Stevenson]

When you say the style is boring, you're giving a opinion on something that's to me, I feel is very ignorant. Especially if you say Tia FEMA was my most entertaining fight after I just fought Williams, a pater, right before Tia FEMA fight. And if you didn't see it, that mean you didn't do your homework. So you bring me back to square one at all times. You get a fool when we're talking about the sport of box.

[Joe]

I'll take the F. But. But I'm not allowed to have an opinion.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Everybody can do their homework. But if they get it.

[Joe]

So why are you.

[Shakur Stevenson]

So why are you so upset about your opinion?

[Joe]

You are.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'm debating with you. Don't get mad that I'm debating with you.

[Joe]

We can have a debate, but then you say my boxing. If I. But I'm not trying to say. I'm not trying to say you're the greatest lightweight or you don't have to have better than you.

[Marco]

You don't have to.

[Joe]

I just said your style.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Yes. And you get an F when you tell me that my fight with Teofimo was the most entertaining fight compared to my fight with Williams and Peter. Cause you didn't watch.

[Ocho]

Hey, can I say something?

[Joe]

Go ahead.

[Ocho]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Real quick, real quick. Can I say something? Both of you are going back and forth, right?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Both of you going back and forth about boxing, going about words, some of the things you're saying to each other, but both of you have opinions. Everything y' all talk about is based on opinion.

[Joe]

That's all I'm saying. No joke.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, Unc. What you're saying to him is an opinion based on how you feel he fights. And the way he thinks about your description on his fighting style being boring. The ignorant part is also an opinion on how he thinks about how you

[Shakur Stevenson]

fight, how he fights.

[Ocho]

So we going back. We going in circles about the same thing.

[Joe]

That's all I said. That'd be like saying. That'd be like saying, joe, who your favorite rapper, man? Joe. You ignorant on rap. Because Joe's opinion. Oh, he like. He might like Tupac, he might like Hov, he might like Drake, he might like Kenya. Because I disagree with his opinion.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'm saying if you talk to Jay Z at the time, and you're sitting there talking.

[Joe]

I'm talking to.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Exactly. You talking to the best fighter in the sport of boxing right now. You gotta hear yourself. That's who you talking to. Put some respect on my name when you talking. That's all I had.

[Joe]

Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I've given you respect, Shakur. All I've said. I have every go back and look, I say he's in a. I said he can fight. He's great. I say you don't win belts in four different weight classes and not be tremendous. But I say that style is an appealing respect.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'm just saying you don't have an educated opinion. That's it. You don't have an educating opinion.

[Ocho]

Okay, I like that. I like that. That's a better one. That's a better one. Hey, honestly, I think y' all should fight in real one. Honestly, that's how y' all fight.

[Joe]

I got grandkids.

[Ocho]

Well, hey, I got you. I got. I got you. I got you.

[Joe]

But if he fight. But if he fight.

[Ocho]

No, no, no.

[Marco]

Hey, hold on, hold on.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You keep saying that. I swear to God, when the fight happened, I better see you. I better see you. Hey, I want to see you front row. I Want you to sit in front row and watch it. That's all I ask. When the fight happens, I want you to sit front row.

[Joe]

All right? All right. I'll be there.

[Marco]

How you.

[Ocho]

How you just get. How you just skip over?

[Joe]

He ain't gonna make no money effing you up.

[Ocho]

Oh, no, we just. We just sparring. Hey, Tell. Hey, tell Bud come with you so I can give him.

[Joe]

Nah, nah. Leave Bud alone.

[Ocho]

Nah, I' ma beat his ass, too.

[Joe]

Bud don't know how to turn the switch off, man. Ocho. Or at least I. I don't care

[Ocho]

nothing about no switch. I got a switch, too. Hey, Shakur, you tell. But matter of fact, tell Andre Ward, I want all three of you out there.

[Shakur Stevenson]

You sound crazy.

[Tab Ramos]

Huh? Huh?

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, Shakur. You know, they call me.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I done seen you box before. I ain't seen.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I ain't seen more than two hands, brother.

[Commercial Announcer]

Huh?

[Ocho]

Yeah, you could.

[Joe]

You can sleep. First of all, leave Bud alone. Leave Andre Ward alone. Leave. Hey, once you get a fighter. Once you get a fighter that's retired, like, three or four years.

[Ocho]

Listen to me. Listen to me real quick. I'm from Day County. You see all three of them fighters name you just named, right? Yes, I Them up, man. And I don't even curse like that. I don't even curse.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I don't even care. You going to. You gotta chill, man. You being delusional right now.

[Joe]

Hey, n. Don't. Hey, don't. Hey, don't hit him. Don't hit him in his face and don't hit him. But he got to. Come on, Nightcap.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey. I can survive.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Yo, my cameraman will be your ass.

[Joe]

Damn.

[Shakur Stevenson]

My cameraman.

[Ocho]

What. Why would you.

[Marco]

Why would you.

[Joe]

Why would you put him out there?

[Shakur Stevenson]

He over here, shadow box, and I see he getting ready.

[Ocho]

Hey, tell your cameraman come in the camera right now. Right now.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Fact. Good boy, Zach. Exactly.

[Joe]

Exactly.

[Shakur Stevenson]

We want old trouble, man.

[Joe]

I'm trying to figure out. Hey, I need.

[Ocho]

I'mma make you come to him.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I got my man.

[Ocho]

I got my man.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, look, if this fight. If this. If this fight happened, I'm gonna bet. I'm gonna say. You want to bet?

[Shakur Stevenson]

I want you front row. That's all I want. And I want your money. Hey, no, let him do the ring.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. Hey, Tank. I mean, damn, Shakur, let him do the ring walk with you.

[Joe]

I can't do the ring walking.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Hell, no. I want him to sit front row.

[Marco]

I want.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I want to. I'm Gonna watch his money lose. Like, I want him to sit there and cry. That's what I want.

[Joe]

I ain't gonna cry about it because I'm.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'm.

[Joe]

I'm only gonna bet what I can lose and not. And sleep good.

[Commercial Voice]

Nah.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Hell no. I want you to bet some real, man. I want you to really be mad at yourself, man.

[Joe]

I'm only gonna bed. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Tab Ramos]

You.

[Joe]

You. No, no, no, no, no.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I want you to be mad at yourself.

[Joe]

I still got kids.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I want your kids to be mad at you. That's what I want. I want to you. Your kids to be mad at you about what you're.

[Joe]

First of all, my kids can't be mad about money. They didn't make

[Shakur Stevenson]

you right?

[Joe]

I like that. They can't.

[Ocho]

I can tell y' all something.

[Marco]

You hear me?

[Joe]

Huh? What you saying? What?

[Ocho]

Yo, I can tell y' all something.

[Joe]

What?

[Ocho]

This has been very entertaining tonight. Hey, listen, y'.

[Ashley Iconetti]

All.

[Ocho]

I mean, listen, y'.

[Joe]

All.

[Ocho]

Y' all going at it. Obviously.

[Joe]

We gonna be able to. I'm gonna see him at the fight tomorrow, Saturday.

[Ocho]

Hey, this was really good tonight. Yeah, this is really good.

[Shakur Stevenson]

It's all love. I just was talking. I was talking shit with. With you. It's all love, man.

[Joe]

Baby, it's all good. Hey, when I see. Hey, I'll see you at the 507. Hey, Joe, I'mma call. Call my guy tomorrow and up and I hit you. I hit you.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Make sure you wear knee brace. Put. Put a knee brace on.

[Joe]

I ain't got no. Man, you know I got a bad knee, Shakur.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I do my homework, man. That's all I tell.

[Joe]

I need. I need a knee replacement.

[Tab Ramos]

Huh?

[Shakur Stevenson]

I do my homework, man.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, I got your back.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I got you. I got you. I'm gonna see you and take a picture with you, man. It's all good,

[Joe]

man. I appreciate that, man. Congratulations, man. Look here. Make these fights happen, Shakur. Make your money. Hey, how old are you, 20, 26, 27, 29 now. Okay? Hey, go and get you about five more years. Get you about 200 mil.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Nah, I got you. That's the plan right there.

[Ocho]

I need to. I need. I need 10% right there, for sure.

[Joe]

Because the thing is, those old guys, they had to fight. I remember guys were fighting three, four, five times a year. You ain't got to do that now. You go get you. Get you two big paydays a year,

[Shakur Stevenson]

and peace free with my family, man. That's the game plan right there.

[Joe]

That's it. Hey, you in Houston. Get your. Get your nice piece of land. I don't know what type of leg. Get your nice piece of land.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I got you.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yes. Yes. And now get you a job talking about boxing.

[Shakur Stevenson]

I'm gonna make money off the sport of boxing for the rest of my life.

[Joe]

Oh, you want to be a promoter?

[Shakur Stevenson]

Whatever it takes to get the most money. I'm into making money to keep that income coming in. A lot of knowledge, so I'm gonna use it to my advantage.

[Joe]

Ain't nothing wrong. Hey, ain't nothing wrong with that if you. Hey, whatever the case may be, whether you want to promote, whether you want to train, whatever the case may be, bro. Hey, knowledge. Knowledge is very valuable, but it's. But it's only good if you share it with somebody.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Yeah, for sure. With the right people.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Yes, man. I appreciate that. Hey, that's your Cor Stevenson. He's a won a belt in his fourth weight class. Pound for pound, one of the two or three best boxers. And he says he's not two or three. He's the best pound for pound boxer in boxing currently going today. That is Shakur Stevenson. He signed with Zuffa Boxing on a multi fight deal. That is the company run between with Dana White, Turkey Ali, and Nick Khan. So he says he's gonna fight at some point in time this year. We ain't got. Let's see, we got August, September, October, November, December. We got about five months left.

[Shakur Stevenson]

Yeah. I appreciate y', all, though. Thank y' all for the opportunity.

[Ashley Iconetti]

Opportunity.

[Joe]

No, we appreciate you, bro.

[Ocho]

Congratulations.

[Joe]

Hey, stay healthy. We'll see you down the road.

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