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Shannon Sharpe
I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait.
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It feels like it's trying to divide people.
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We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little.
Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
Now streaming on Paramount. The acclaimed series from executive producer Lena Waithe reaches its final chapter. The Shy. For seven seasons, these stories, these streets, this community have stayed with us. Now it all leads to this. As friendships are tested, families evolve, and secrets refuse to stay buried, one thing is certain. The shy is more than just a series. It's a legacy. Don't miss the final season of the Shy. Now streaming on the Paramount premium plan. Charles Oakley now says he's beefing with his former teammate Patrick Ewan. For Patrick not to be a man enough to come and talk to me after having his back for 10 years. He's a coward. Nah, nah, nah. The last straw was when we was in Cleveland, and he knows I'm from Cleveland. He knew I was at the game, and he didn't speak to me as many times as he's been to my mother's house. He can't speak to me. Nah, I'm drawing the line. I mean, I played with him for 10 years. He's just not a good person. He might make money, all star dream team, but that doesn't make you a good person. Lord have mercy.
Joe Johnson
What's going on with you? Hey, hey, hey, Jo.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know. I didn't know. I didn't know he had to be. I didn't know he had to be with Patrick. You. Because, hell, if I knew it was gonna be the topic, you know me, I'd hit his ass up. Hell, I got to come on the damn. I gotta come on the show. Yeah, I know it.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Uncle Joe, we on the other side of the hill, man. We on the other side of the hill. We ain't got.
Chad Ochocinco
We.
Joe Johnson
We not supposed to be beefing, you know, at our age, you know, not. Not. Not at our age, you know, they. They got to fix that. They got to fix that, man.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't think it's. I don't think you can fix it.
Shannon Sharpe
O. I'mma tell you. Listen, I know Oak been knowing oak 30 years. Oak is the type of dude, if you cross him, it's over. Yeah, but that really like that.
Joe Johnson
It's just that crossing, you know, he didn't. He didn't speak to him. That's really nothing to be angry.
Chad Ochocinco
Well, I think it's more to it than that. Ooh, yes, I want to it than that. That was just. That was just one incident he probably pointed out, you know, considering the fact that he from Cleveland was at the game.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he know, you know, I'm at the game and you don't speak. But it's.
Chad Ochocinco
It's more that doesn't happen than. Than just being in Cleveland, you know? And that probably just took the icing off the cake. You feel me?
Joe Johnson
Right? Right?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I wish I'd known because I'd had Oak come on here and tell you
Chad Ochocinco
what ain't too it,
Shannon Sharpe
man.
Chad Ochocinco
It's. Man, what the hell he is.
Shannon Sharpe
I report back to y', all, what he tell me, he'll probably want to come on and tell you his damn self so I don't miss, so I don't misconstrue anything.
Joe Johnson
Oak probably got a lot of pressure right now. He need to. Need to get off his chest. You know, the stuff with the Knicks, you know, at the Garden, James Dolan, now Patrick, he. And he probably just need to release some stress, man. Like, just. Just let it all out. Ask Oak if you want to fight.
Chad Ochocinco
Fight. Who?
Joe Johnson
Me?
Shannon Sharpe
No.
Chad Ochocinco
Come on, man, chill.
Joe Johnson
No, I'm just.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, he done chill now, so
Joe Johnson
you can release all that anger, man, and, you know, you just. Just use me as you point your bag and then let all bygones be bygones.
Shannon Sharpe
The. Oh, man, look, like I said, when everybody tell the stories, what do they tell? Did anybody say, man, dude, step the oak? Like, oh, people don't realize how big. Okay. Oak don't have a basketball body. Oak got a football body. Oh, strong. Listen, now, I'm talking about. I'm talking about physically. I'm talking about weight room strong. I'm talking about owns court strong. Oh, is a strong big ass, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey, he.
Shannon Sharpe
And when.
Chad Ochocinco
And when he come about that business, he ain't gonna do a whole lot of damn talking.
Shannon Sharpe
He ain't gonna do no. He gonna ask you one time, you got my money, you eat. Hey, you either say, yeah, I got it, or if you say Clown. Before you say the. Oh, no, he's slapping firefly.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey, I, I've been.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm telling you, I. I know him. Like I said, I. I've been knowing him 30 plus years. Hey, if you. If you borrow money from him and you tell him you gonna give it back at a certain date, have that man money or go borrow the money that you borrowed from him, borrow from somebody else that you know can't whip you, and you can pay him when you want to, because if you owe him money, he gonna knock. 5.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, listen, I've been in the gym, bro. When I. I done seen it go down myself, Uncle Ocho, meaning here in Atlanta. We should play at this athletic club over here in Buckhead. I, I ain't, you know, I ain't gonna necessarily call out no name, but when he walked in, it was like a loose pit bull. You hear me? And he ain't say nothing. We was miss hooping in the midst of playing a game, got his ass up out of there to call them folks on him.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, I'm telling, I'm telling you, he's like that. People. When people say, oh, oh, he just go, no, he don't come. He don't calm down some. And, you know, that's why I like, hey, you're like, man, let's go. Nah, let's go to the restaurant, get something. We don't need to go to the club. Hey, let's go to the restaurant. Hey, let's go to the restaurant, get something.
Joe Johnson
Yo, he walked in there and put hands on somebody.
Chad Ochocinco
Hell, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
That man walked into another team's practice and slapped somebody just because he was on the phone with a chicken. And he came there and asking, who you talking to? He drove in the middle of the night. That man drove 10 hours to get at him. He couldn't find him. Guess what? They happen to be on the schedule. They had shoot around.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, what, the gym? Like, what you say? Five? Hold on.
Joe Johnson
He slapped somebody at their own shoot around.
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely.
Chad Ochocinco
You know, like a shoot around, Ocho. Like if it's one team that shoot around, like, soon as we getting finished, the other team will be kind of waiting right there. So they'll be walking on as we walking off. So we are running to each other. You know what I mean?
Shannon Sharpe
It's easy to.
Chad Ochocinco
It ain't nothing for you to touch somebody now, right?
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, yes. He drove, first of all. He drove 10 hours, couldn't find him. He said, tell him I'm on my way. Hey, don't worry about it. Don't worry. Don't worry about it. He walked in the middle of their practice. Yeah. And then told, hey, man, you ain't slapped the dude? And told his partner, well, you should have helped him.
Joe Johnson
Yes, okay. Yes. I take back what I said. I don't wanna.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, man, like I said, I done hung with the dude at a lot of different places. I know. No, no, him.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, I only know one person who can cal down, bro, and that was mj. Yeah, I got a chance to hang out with him and MJ one night here in Atlanta after we played this softball game.
Shannon Sharpe
And.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, got into it with the damn. With the bouncer. The security at the club. Ocho couldn't get a he by jumping that boy like a cheap suit. You hear me? MJ had to come up. MJ had to come from back there and be like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. If it wasn't for that boy finna go down. Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey. Jump on him like a white joke.
Chad Ochocinco
Like a damn cheap suit. You finna jump on his ass?
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, hey, hey. I'm like, bro, let's go. Let's go. Hey, we. We let the club. What? Not up here. He don't like to be touched. He don't. He don't like to be touched, and he don't like to be interrupted when he talking to somebody. Cause he said, that's disrespectful. You see me talking to somebody, man, Look, I don't, you know, we talking. Especially if you don't know that person.
Chad Ochocinco
He ain't.
Shannon Sharpe
He ain't to play with. He not to play with. So you see him a lot. Hey, throw your. Hey, throw your hand up. Throw your hand up and keep it moving. Just to actually tell you, but I
Chad Ochocinco
know all in all, though, he really a good dude, though.
Shannon Sharpe
No, he ain't no good dude. He a great dude. Hey, he got eight. I could. I could come home because he used to have here. Hey. Oh, let me get your car. He a jimbo sharp. Say, you need my car, you have it at his house. You need some. Hey, you be somewhere. Oh, Let me hold 20. Let me hold 30. Let me hold 50 grand. No problem. He's a really, really good dude. And if he rock with you, but don't cross him. And if you tell him you're gonna give his money. If you tell. Oh, you could borrow a hundred thousand, two hundred thousand if you give him a date, say, oak. I'm gonna have your money at this date. Have that man money on that date. If you don't have his money, he gonna walk up to you, he gonna say, man, you got my money. And when you say no in, that's all you. That O ain't coming out. It's gonna be like, oh, it ain't gonna be no, no. It's gonna be, oh, hey, he.
Chad Ochocinco
The best thing you can do is not to buy no damn lump sum of money like that from nobody. Like, oh, hell no. Because it's the principle. It's the principle for him.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep. That's how you stand on it. But, yeah, like. Like Joe said, he a good dude. He rock with you. He rock with you. He loyal. He really, really loyal. If. Look, if he. If he rock with you and somebody talking about you let it go down. He ain't gonna let it go down. He said, nah, I rock with Sharp. I ain't trying to hear that. So you want to talk about it? Take your ass over there. That's how he is. That's how he is.
Joe Johnson
I like. I like them old stories, man. I like that.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh. Steph Curry is planning on meeting with LeBron James to recruit him to the Warriors. And Now Bleacher predicts LeBron James could finish your career with the warriors on a two year, $30.8 million deal. The hypothetical move would pair LeBron James, Steph Curry, Draymond Green, and Kristo for one final title push. Joe, imagine LeBron and Steph actually ending up on a team. Not a. Not a. An all star team, not an Olympic team, but an actual NBA team. Do you think Steph Curry, Jimmy Butler, Draymond Green, and Christoph Brzingas, is that enough to make them a title contender coming out of the West?
Chad Ochocinco
I like that combination. I think Steph and LeBron would complement each other so well. Draymond as well, Porzinga as well. But it depends on the type of the other. The others. The other guys that they gonna surround them guys with. Uncle Ocho, but because, let's face it, those guys are up in age and to. And to think that they just gonna walk through an 82 game damn season. That ain't gonna happen. That ain't gonna happen. So you're gonna have to have some great young talent, guys who know their role, play stars in their role and are willing to sacrifice, because at the end of the day, you know it's gonna revolve around Braun Curry and Draymond. And you gotta have a lot of these young guys, bro, who be willing to accept that and. And enjoy their role. So I would love to see it, though, I think it'll change the landscape of basketball. I think they'll be great if they can stay healthy. I think they definitely can make some noise.
Shannon Sharpe
My, My thing is, like, who's going to play defense? Like you said, Joe, Steph Curry's not as known as a defensive guy. LeBron is 40, going to be 42 years of age, and he can't play defense like he once could. Christoph Brzinga can't stay healthy. Jimmy Butler is coming off a knee injury. Draymond complet. Hey, Draymond is Draymond. We know what Draymond can do, but like you said, okay, what are you gonna feel around him? Because you're gonna have to have three
Chad Ochocinco
or four guys and perimeter guys. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. No, you. No, you don't need no bigs. You need perimeter guys, you need guards. You need guys that can guard wing players. Because guess what? The west got wings. Somebody got to guard Ant Man. Somebody got to guard Murray. Somebody got to guard Shay and J Dub and all those guys. Somebody got to guard him. I don't know who, but I'm just saying somebody has.
Chad Ochocinco
So if you're going to team all those guys up, you got to be willing to put the right pieces around them. But, I mean, I'm sure the basketball world would love to see those guys team up. Hell, I ain't going to lie. I know I would. You know, I think it'll be must watch tv, the way Steph shoots, shoots the ball, the way Bron can score and facilitate and make guys around him better. I think Draymond would be great in the roles that he'll play. He'll be that emotional leader, that intimidator. He'll be that point forward who. Who gets guys involved. And you. You already know, Draymond knows his role. They gonna play winning basketball because they all. Yeah, yeah, they all gonna want another title. You know, if they all get another title, they all will be at 5, so I'm sure, you know, they'll be ring chasing for sure.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but.
Joe Johnson
But you got to think about some of the teams in the west, you know, and. And. And LeBron and Steph and Draymond, as great as they are, the teams that they had, you know, the 73 and nine season, having KD, having Clay, I think it's a little bit different. And thinking that they even have a chance to come out the west with them young boys, them young Bulls, you know, out there right now, I mean, the chances are slim. Great, great team. You know, collectively, you know, all together. You would think experience and veteran presence would kind of give them the edge, but they're not going to be able to run up and down with them young boys, man, coming out the West.
Chad Ochocinco
That's why. That's why. That's why it's going to depend on who they put around them, bro.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
You know, you. You gotta have. You gotta have some young talent, you know, who. Who can play. And, you know, it's kind of hard because y' all know, man, it's hard playing with some of these great players. It's gonna be hard playing with.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, for sure.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, it's hard playing with Steph Curry, you know, when you ain't never been in those situations, playing with that amount of talent, you know what I'm saying? Understanding that, hell, if you're a young dude to some degree, you're going to have to sacrifice your damn game.
Shannon Sharpe
I agree. Joe Ocho. The ketchup and mustard look, inspired by the uniforms of the Rockets Wore during the 94, 95 championship seasons, are returning. The team unveiled the three. The new three jersey set and revamp logos Thursday that reintroduced yellow into the franchise palette. Take a look at the video.
Chad Ochocinco
Damn. So hard, bro.
Joe Johnson
That's when Hakeem was playing, huh?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
That's cool. It's cool. I like it. I like it, I like it. Oh, okay. I like the black. Oh, look, the yellow. Jump,
Chad Ochocinco
jump, man. Gonna take over the league soon. What?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, it's gonna be the official. It's gonna be the official logo. Joe, if you could bring back any uniform. What? You bringing back any uniform?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, man. I ain't gonna lie to y', all, bro. I. I love the vintage. The vintage retro look, especially when they bring it back and. And they modernize it to where it fits in, you know, with this new age concept. But that Toronto Raptors, I think, is probably.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, with the Raptor. With the Raptor athlete on the front of the jersey
Joe Johnson
like Vince Carter.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I got. I got a T, man. I got a TMAC number one jersey with. Oh, man, them. So them like. Them probably brought the hardest retros to me, bro. Them like some of the hardest retros. There's some. It's some tough ones out here, but them one of the hardest ones.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I like them. I like the Toronto. I like the old 76s with the bell, with the 70s. Yeah, I like the 76ers. Who else had a hard job?
Chad Ochocinco
I like. I like Minnesota vintage. Them all black ones they used to have when KG them used to wear. Yeah, Those hard six has got a bunch of vintage retro looks. Liberty Bell they got all aisles. Oh man them so hard. It's a few out here.
Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait.
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It feels like it's trying to divide people.
Host/Interviewer
We Got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little bit.
Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
to leaking stories about the Eagles to the media to motivate the team. It was done purposely to give us a push. It gives us everything. Gives. It gives everything legs to push everyone to be better. I feel it like it was okay to do. Hey, hey, hey, Eagle fan. How y' all feel about that? Because y' all feel. Everybody made stuff up. How y' all feel about that, Eagle fans? That the guy that was there that was leaking the story that people reporting on the stories. How y' all feel? Oh, let me guess. Y' all knew AJ was doing this because Ocho, you know what they do. Yo, that's what they do. Anytime somebody give a story. Oh, we knew that. I need. Hey, put a channel. Okay, let me put a channel right quick because I want to see how many Eagles fans are here that knew A.J. brown was leaving stories.
Joe Johnson
Listen, you. You never.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn. Hold on, hold on. Just a second, Joe. Just a second. Y' all ain't know that y' all do everything y' all do. The man was getting traded in October when you told me and Ocho, we created. We just trying to start stuff. Y' all just try to get clicks and like, hello, hey, Eagle fans. And I know y' all on here Ain't nobody saying nothing. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, he ain't. Don't do all that now. Don't do all that now. Don't do all that now. I want to know who knew that. Yeah, I hate Eagles. Whatever you want to say. I want to know y' all knew that. Because every time Ocho and I say something. Joe.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, we could tell, too. We know that he was gonna run the gold route on the left side. We. We know he running the override when he line up in the slot. Y' all knew everything that. Oo. And I was saying didn't never play the game and don't know a screen pass from a screenplay porch, but they knew. They knew. Damn. Ain't nobody knew this. Ain't nobody knew this.
Joe Johnson
I'm.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm.
Joe Johnson
I'm more concerned. Exactly what. What stories did he actually leak that he felt was going to help the team and push them to do better?
Shannon Sharpe
That. That the mere fact that it's a story that he admitted to doing, it don't matter. He could have said, you know what? We ain't got no pre wrap. We ain't had no Gatoraded practice. Yeah. The mere fact the man admitted it.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, it did it. Did it work?
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know, Joe. Ocho, I think I would have kept that one to myself. Some things better left unsaid. That's just me. Everybody do handle things differently, Joe. Everybody handles stuff differently, Ocho.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hold on.
Shannon Sharpe
Would.
Joe Johnson
It would have been for better context. What if the stories that he did leak. What if it was during the super bowl winning season?
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know when it. I don't think they didn't need no motivation. Oo. You got to realize how many games they won, boy, I think last year.
Joe Johnson
Hey, them boy were cutting, boy.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey. Yeah, for me, after I'm done with the ex, bro, I ain't bringing her back up. I ain't talking about her.
Shannon Sharpe
Thank you, somebody. Hey, man, use today. Yeah, okay, great. I'm gonna say. I ain't gonna say no. I ain't got nothing negative to say. Yeah, that's just me. That's just. Hey, everybody don't operate like that, Joe. Everybody don't operate like that, Ocho. I ain't got nothing to say negative about my exes. Hey, it didn't work for us. She might be perfect for you.
Joe Johnson
Hello.
Chad Ochocinco
Hello.
Shannon Sharpe
So ain't no sense in me salting her up. Ain't no sense in me saying, whatever she did, she did. He's happy. I'm happy, bro. Great.
Chad Ochocinco
Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm like you, Joe. I. What you want me to say? What was she like? I don't know. I mean, you dating. You'll find it. You tell me in a couple years.
Chad Ochocinco
Like I did.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, exactly. Cause ain't nobody tell me nothing.
Joe Johnson
In a couple of years, you're gonna get that call, man. Why you ain't tell me? Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey.
Joe Johnson
Hey. I had to. I had to learn the hard way. You're gonna learn the hard way too.
Chad Ochocinco
Hello.
Shannon Sharpe
I figured you gonna find out sooner or later. Hey, should the new Patriots teammates be concerned hearing something like this? That.
Joe Johnson
No.
Shannon Sharpe
We got another miles turn on.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, okay. Okay.
Joe Johnson
You're gonna be all right. He finna go over there and cut a fool, though. I heard Booty. Booty asked for a trade, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Amazon ain't got no balls coming. You got. You got AJ making that money. You got Romeo Dobbs, what you got?
Joe Johnson
Listen, I want to compete. I ain't go. I ain't worried about that. I don't care who you got.
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't compete. You ain't AJ make. AJ making 30 plus and Dobbs making 27 plus. Who you competing with?
Joe Johnson
You compete for 30 by this, you. Let's say you don't want to go play with. You don't want to play with the Patriots number right? They got they one and a two. Where you going that don't have already have a one and a two now think about that. There are 31 other teams.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, they might not have those one and twos.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, man, better make the most of that damn situation over there. It's ain't always green on the other side, bro.
Joe Johnson
Who you telling?
Shannon Sharpe
I'm.
Joe Johnson
I'm looking at the landscape of the NFL right now. Every team has one or two. We gonna go to the Dolphins.
Shannon Sharpe
That.
Joe Johnson
That's. That's the only place I can think. We can go in there and. And. And have his presence will be felt
Chad Ochocinco
right away and be miserable.
Joe Johnson
That. That too. Because they in a three year rebuilding stage.
Chad Ochocinco
Hell no.
Shannon Sharpe
Look, I'm gonna do it like this. I've never. Now AJ did what he did. We making. I'm making a joke of it. I don't condone what AJ did because I don't want people to say, well, nightcap, Ocho and Joe and Unc was condoning. I don't condone that. I'm not giving out any information about my team. Whatever transpired, be it a team, be it somebody blowing the play, somebody overslept, somebody got Fired, Somebody got injured. I ain't telling you ish. Don't ask me facts. So I don't want people. Because you know, you know, hey, it's something about Nightcap, Ocho and Joe. We get clipped more than anybody.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, that's one.
Shannon Sharpe
And without even. And without even. Without even listening at the context, because people just kill a snippet and then people comment. Did you hear what I said? Did you hear what Ocho said? Did you hear what Joe said? Or are you just commenting based on the comment that was in front of your comment? Yeah, I don't agree. I don't agree with. I didn't agree with his behavior. All I said and all I've ever said. Ocho. I just wish he'd have kept that public. You want to have a discussion with the head coach? Look, look, I need more balls. I need to be involved earlier. I need you guys to get me to Bob earlier. Give me the ball earlier. You got me late. That's all I've ever said. Have a conversation with Petula behind closed doors. Have a conversation with Hertz behind closed doors. I never want to show a teammate up, especially the quarterback. Quarterbacks have the biggest egos. They just do the best job of hiding it. They have the most fragile egos. They just do the best job of hiding it. I've been with. I've been with. I've been around too many of them, and I ain't telling what somebody told me. I'm telling you what I know. Most of them have been what? Coddled. They play that position. Ocho in high school, you get coddled. You're playing in college, you get coddled. You get to the NFL and all of a sudden you become really, really good. Hey, there's a reason why he wear a different jersey. He the only one that wears a different jersey than everybody else. You can't touch. I don't agree with what. I don't care what type of motivation or what you think he was doing. I don't agree with that. I don't. I think there's other ways that you could motivate your team without leaking stuff. That's just me. That's just me. Each his own. Everybody doesn't do things like Shannon. Shannon doesn't do things like everybody else. But I. I'm just old school like that. Ocho. I just think there. I just think there's a better. There was a better way to try to get the message, to try to get his team to play at another level.
Joe Johnson
I just think when it Comes to that message too, Uncle. You have to think he got that C on his chest too. He got the C on his chest so there's really no need for him to be able to leak anything to the media. Being that you're the captain, they gonna listen to you first, right? They gonna listen to you first.
Shannon Sharpe
Unless. And that's the problem that you have. See, OO and Joe, when you get that C on your chest, you, you gotta behave in a matter that's different. All that pouting and moping and complaining. Ocho, you can't do that because you want people to follow you. Your best players, you want people to follow. That's why. And you know they're watching. That's why you come on time. That's why you had meetings on time. That's why you practice a certain way. That's why you do film study. That's why you try. You're not going to be perfect. So I don't want people to think that I've ever said that I was perfect. I tried to, I tried to be always on time. I, I tried to play, I practiced hard, I played hard. And when I made mistakes, I made mistakes going 100 miles an hour. But I know people are watching me. I, I want people to say, man, I watched our sharp do certain things, man, that's kind of watch the guy come in as a seventh round draft pick playing special teams mainly and become an all decade player, become a multiple time Pro bowl player, become a multiple time all pro player and eventually wound up in the football heaven hall of fame. I, I, I love when people like, man, hey, give them advice, try to help them out. They bro, just do it. Do, if I was you, I would do it like this. You gonna do it your own way. But I'm just saying, I just think there's a better way that you could do certain things. Okay, Shop, I take that on advice. But I'm surprised. Oh, I ain't gonna lie, man. I ain't never heard anything like this. Ojo. I'm not saying that it hadn't happened before, Joe. Cause it has, because I believe it has. But I don't think anybody would have ever admitted to that, Ocho.
Joe Johnson
I mean, you listen, I'm with you when you're right that, hold on, how
Shannon Sharpe
you go, this is, this is a classic example. You get with a new girl. Man, I've been cheating on the old one the whole time. The whole time. But I'll be going, hey, I've been going out. What?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, right.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that's hey, Chat, y' all do what y' all want to do with that.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey, A.J. sicker, bro. I I Hey, I I But, but, but, but. Dead serious though. I wouldn't be talking, I wouldn't be talking about the X team, bro. Move on. You got a fresh start. Just be great in that fresh start.
Shannon Sharpe
Everybody happy. Sports Illustrated released their best offensive triplets for 2026 quarter quarterback, one running back, one wide receiver, one tight end. The Chargers are in 10 spot. They got Justin Herbert, Omarion, Hampton, Lad Monkey. So you get a wide receiver or tight end. It can be one or the other. It cannot be both. In the eighth spot, you got Jalen Hurts, Saquon Barkley, Devonte Smith, the 49ers. You got Brock Purdy, Christian McCaffrey, George Kittle. The Chiefs are in the seventh spot because you have Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes, Kenneth Walker iii. The Bengals are in the same spot. Joe Burrow, Chase Brown, Jamar Chase. The the Cowboys in the fifth spot. Dak Prescott, Javante Williams, Ceedee Lamb. The Bills are in the four spot. Josh Allen, James Cook, D.J. moore. The Ravens are in the three spot. L, Jack D. Henry, Zay Flowers. The Rams. Excuse me. The Lions are in the two spot. They got Jerry Goff. Somebody spelled golf wrong, but that's never here nor there. Jamir Gibbs, Almond Raw, St. Brown. And the Rams are in the one spot. Matthew Stafford, Kyron Williams. Okay, Joe Ocho. You hate it. Love it. Let the chat know. What did they get right, what did they get wrong?
Joe Johnson
The players that haven't played together belong a little higher. The deck. Deck in CD and Javante. Yeah, they should be a little higher because they got Kenneth Walker. They got Kenneth Walker is. It's two, it's two of them. I can't remember exactly.
Shannon Sharpe
Kenneth Walker, Patrick Holmes are in the seventh spot. So you got Patrick Mahomes, Kenneth Walker and Travis Kelsey. They're number seven. The fifth are Cowboys with Dak Prescott, Javonte Williams, who is four Josh Allen, James Cook, DJ Moore.
Joe Johnson
DJ Moore hadn't even played there yet.
Chad Ochocinco
Nope.
Joe Johnson
So I, I rather.
Shannon Sharpe
But I guess they're saying James Cook is substantially upgrade over Javante Williams. And they got Dak Prescott as a better Prescott.
Chad Ochocinco
How many yards Cook had?
Joe Johnson
Oh, he bought last.
Shannon Sharpe
Cook had. He led the league of Russian. I think he had six.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, I know Javante. Javante had about 1200 yards. He a thousand yard rush.
Shannon Sharpe
And then you got Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry, Zay Flowers. And then you had Jerry Goff, Jameer Gibbs, Almond Ross St. Brown. And then you got Matthew Stafford, Kyron Williams.
Joe Johnson
I can't argue with number one.
Chad Ochocinco
Number two.
Shannon Sharpe
What about Seattle?
Chad Ochocinco
They gave up their run game.
Shannon Sharpe
You could just put any running back in there with. With jsn and what's complicated who's a running back? They gave up. They gave anybody. Me.
Joe Johnson
He's coming off an injury. What's his name? How you say his last name? I don't want to butcher. He coming off injury.
Chad Ochocinco
How they let him go. He was an mvp.
Shannon Sharpe
They weren't gonna pay him that kind of money.
Joe Johnson
What he wanted.
Shannon Sharpe
And it was because you got to realize I'm not playing a guy that kind of money to split the carries.
Chad Ochocinco
But damn, if it wasn't for him, Auger Ocho, they probably don't even win the damn Super Bowl.
Joe Johnson
Hey, especially at the running back position. Unless you. Unless you. Christian McCaffrey. You know, I can
Chad Ochocinco
damn the running back then. Diminished for real, ain't it? Man, I remember that used to be half back.
Shannon Sharpe
It's making a comeback. It's making a comeback, though, Joe. But there was. There was a stretch there. The running back. They ain't want to pay a running back no damn money.
Joe Johnson
Gotta be special, though. Now making a comeback, but it's making a comeback for those that are actually special.
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, y' all think. I think.
Chad Ochocinco
Y' all think the Jeremiah Love kids special.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
He got in that situation, that contract guaranteed. And so he got drafted third. What? Third overall. It is what it is.
Joe Johnson
He's special, though. He's special.
Shannon Sharpe
I just. It's just hard for me to see a guy just coming into the league that's never cared in NFL football, has never thrown, never caught one to make more than. Guys that's been doing this for a period of time. That's just me. Hey, it happens all the time. Because there are guys that come in into a new job and been making. Make more money as a new person on the job than somebody that's been there 10, 15, 20 years. So it is what it is. Yeah, it is what it is.
Joe Johnson
Timing. Timing. It's all about time.
Shannon Sharpe
It is Joe Ocho. It is. Following a decision by an independent intercalactic. Interschalactic athletic appeals board administered by the North Carolina Department of Public Instruction, the North Carolina High School Athletic Association Board of Directors convened in a special meeting on Tuesday to consider the matter involving the conclusion of the 2026 8Amen's track and field championship. The appeals board vacated the disqualification by the 4 by 400 relay after review and discussion. The North Carolina High School Associate Athletic association board of directors voted to declare Mallard Creek School and C.E. jordan as co champions of the 2026 8Amen's track and field state championship. The board also voted to recognize Mallard Creek High School and I guess it's saying how high school as co champions in the 4x4 meter relay. I agree with everything until the CO. I don't like the cold. I beat you now we got the same number of points. Oo we co champions. But I beat you in the race. So in other words, I don't want to take you out. And you guys celebrated. You guys were the champions. So I don't want to take that away. So I'm going to make y' all co champions. No, other than that.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I don't like it. Yeah, I don't like it.
Shannon Sharpe
But I'm not surprised because I almost got us disqualified doing the exact same. But I put the baton in the guy face. I wasn't in front of him. I pulled up beside him, Ocho. But it was my cousin, so I didn't think that county. It was my cousin, so I didn't think that county. Man, my coach. That's the madness. My coaching only two times. Coach Holly never been upset at me. I did something in practice. I did something in practice football. We was playing. I was linebacker, Ocho, and. And I hit. I. I made a tackle and I jumped up, said, yeah, graveyard baby. This graveyard. And he's like, yeah, you tackle like that in practice. I wish you tackle like that in the game, man. Something went all the way through me. I went in the cut huddle. I called 53 Red Dog. I said, I'm finna knock somebody out as a blitz. 53 Red Dog. Oh, ready? Break. Boy, they pulled.
Joe Johnson
You caught the guard.
Shannon Sharpe
I called the running.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah,
Shannon Sharpe
coach all say, sucker, you'll kill somebody like that. Go to the sideline. I told him. I say, the next person I hit, y' all gonna come get him. Go back and ask. It was 19. Ask him. Go back and ask Gimville High School. When I hit him, I ain't gonna call his name. I don't want to embarrass him. He probably got a wife. Kid probably got grandkids now. But he came and got it.
Chad Ochocinco
You put that hat on him, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Did I? Oh, did I? I would like. Hey, I would like Reggie in a clump. Should I get.
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Shannon Sharpe
I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait.
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It feels like it's trying to divide people.
Host/Interviewer
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Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
Your pronunciation is. It's strongly American. It's more Scuderia Ferrari.
Host/Interviewer
I'm still working on rolling my R's, but what I was able to learn from Stefano was the importance of engaging the Tifosi, the Ferrari superfans in the digital age.
Shannon Sharpe
Ferrari fans and super fans want to
Joe Johnson
be part of something, want to belong to something.
Shannon Sharpe
So they want to be part of
Joe Johnson
a community and ultimately they want to
Shannon Sharpe
be part of a winning team.
Host/Interviewer
You've got Ferrari, which has a long history, design history, and now you're interacting in a kind of digital space. I'm curious how you balance those two traditions.
Shannon Sharpe
When it comes to fan engagement, it's really digital technology. And digital channels, are they enabled to create a deeper connection with our fans?
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Shannon Sharpe
Should I get him?
Joe Johnson
Hey, yo, you too little to play linebacker, man?
Shannon Sharpe
Man, look here. And then my cousin, I got a baton. Ocho Joe, four by eight. It was third leg, four by four. He probably had me about 15. About 15 meters.
Joe Johnson
You came and got him.
Shannon Sharpe
I got that baton, the 4x4. I said, Cuz I'm coming. I just pacing. I just paced at three. At, at 300. No, probably about. At two at the two. I was about five yards behind him. Did I pass? I said, nah, I don't want to spend no extra energy. When we came out, we came out of the turret, we came out the cup curve. I said, I told you I'm the best sharp man. Coach hall came out that thing. Sucker. Don't you ever do that. You'll get us disqualified.
Joe Johnson
Them rules in track.
Shannon Sharpe
That's the only two times Coach hall has ever raised his voice at me. Only two times.
Joe Johnson
Them rules in track, strict, boy.
Shannon Sharpe
But I was, I was dead ass wrong. But that was my, that was my. His granddad and my granddad were brothers. So he, he, Monty and Everett, they went To Reidsville. Me and my brother obviously went to Glenville. Yeah. Now once we graduated, I think like a couple years after we graduated, they merged the two schools. Had they done that when my brother and I and was in school, ain't no telling how many state championships we'd have in football, not basketball because we didn't have really big tall, really tall guys. But football and track, you, I mean you probably wouldn't be on a. There would be no freshmans on the relay teams. You'd probably have to wait till you a junior or senior to be on the relay teams. At least. At least. Oh, we had some guys that could run, but it was split up.
Chad Ochocinco
They know in football.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you ain't start. Ain't no freshman starting.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, ain't nothing like going them track meets, boy.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, dude, my brother probably would have been the only freshman that would have started because he started as a freshman at quarterback. But my brother ran like 10, 500 meters and they ran, they ran the veer so he got the edge. It was over.
Joe Johnson
Hey, speaking of track, I got a question. We've been looking at all these, these, these, these track athletes in high school. You see the fast times running 98 and I'm confused. Noah Lyles ran a 98 today. So you trying to tell me. Yeah, these high schoolers would be able to keep up no allows. Even though he doesn't catch up to the field until them last 30 meters. Something ain't right.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, what's happening Ocho, is that some of these times are win aided. They're getting a plus three, plus four, plus five mile an hour win. The only allowable. You only allow plus 2. So anything over plus 2 no allows. Ran that with a. I think he had an allowable win. But yeah, these times are getting fast. I mean Ocho, you just look at the times that, I mean the tracks, the spikes that they're using. You just saw Sawy just run a sub to. They had two guys go sub two hours in a marathon, 26.2 miles. Two guys and another guy run 210, 215.
Chad Ochocinco
The boys, them boys ain't running with that leather, man. Them boy got carbon fiber in their shoes.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. And they got these super fast mondo tracks now Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
It.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean with the tracks that they got now and the technology that they got now, usain boating is private. Usain boat probably gonna go nine, four.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, that's moving.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah. I mean I just saw a guy from South Africa just run a 46, 66 split 46, 60 split. He ran by La Cue to Bogo from Botswana. Botswana. And Tobogo, he ran 4303 when he and Rob Benjamin went head to head at the Paris Olympics. Oh, Joe, you remember that? That dude went by Tobogo like he was standing still. And Tobogo. And Tobogo is a, is a, is a, a low 44, maybe even a, a, a, a 43 in the open four. And he went by him like he was standing still. These guys different now, Ocho. These guys, I mean, these kids run Ocho. This girl, you see this 14 year old girl. Red 22s. Red 22, 72. Damn girls running 11, 115 at 13, 14 years old. All right, it's time to play a fade presented by prize picks.
Joe Johnson
And sticks. Grab your Twix.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, here we go.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, hey. Dylan Harper will have it more or less than five rebounds. More or less?
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, I'm saying, I'm saying more, man. That little, that little joke will be doing everything, bro.
Shannon Sharpe
The one thing we talked about this last night, that guard, man, what? Vassell Harper, Castle.
Chad Ochocinco
They rebound, they gain rebound. You're absolutely right.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm going more. Also, Jalen Brunson, more or less than 1.5. Made 3 points.
Chad Ochocinco
I ain't gonna lie to y'.
Joe Johnson
All.
Chad Ochocinco
It's hard to bid against Jalen Brunson now. I ain't gonna lie.
Joe Johnson
Okay.
Chad Ochocinco
There ain't nobody need you to chime in here. The boy, the boy been proved me wrong. All posters. I ain't gonna lie. I, I probably go more on. I think he can make two.
Joe Johnson
Yep.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm going with you. Julian Champagne, he will have more than two and a half, made three baskets, more or less than two and a half.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm saying more. Champagne played great against the Knicks. I don't know if y' all know, but during the season this year, hell, he had a game. We had like 10, 11 threes against the Knicks and he, he been shooting. He been shooting the. Let off that thing. I'm gonna say more.
Shannon Sharpe
I agree. Landry Shammit will have at least seven and a half points. More or less.
Chad Ochocinco
Where it gets tricky.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, well, he has 16 the first game, Joe.
Chad Ochocinco
And it get tricky though, Ojo.
Shannon Sharpe
I think gonna have that Joe, man, that joker, that joker doesn't make. He was 12 or 13 coming into the three point and I think he made what, he made three or five threes or three or six threes yesterday. So that man shooting 15, 15 or 21 from.
Chad Ochocinco
I know he's shooting so. So if I'm saying Antonio, I gotta eliminate some of these guys around Brunson and Cat. I can't. I. I can't. I can't let Shannon beat me. That's what I'm thinking. So I know they're gonna try to cut his water off. That's why I say it's tricky. What y' all thinking, man?
Shannon Sharpe
Y'. All.
Chad Ochocinco
We going more.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm going more. I think you. I think you're gonna have feet at
Chad Ochocinco
least eight, I bet. I'm gonna be damn sure count because I can't wait to get on here tomorrow.
Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Ochocinco
Time.
Shannon Sharpe
Here it is. Jiu Jitsu. ISO just wanted to say congratulations. Arkansas born and raised.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. All right. So what are some of the tips you you have for losing visceral belly fat? I'm 61257 and I'm very, very athletic. I'm in the gym five days a week. Please help.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, you got to do fasted cardio, bro. Fasted cardio meaning you. You. When you get your ass up in the morning, you need to do cardio first. Before you eat anything, drink it. Have your glass of water or a bottle of water, get right to it. Whether you walking on the treadmill, whether you bicycling, whether you running, whether you're doing hot yoga, I don't care what it is you do. But you need to do that on an empty stomach. Trust and believe. I promise you that works.
Shannon Sharpe
Bodies are made in the kitchen, not the gym. It's hard to out exercise a bad guy.
Chad Ochocinco
It is, bro. You can't. Hell, you can't out. You can't out exercise a bad diet. Okay, bro? So look, look, look. Once you hit that gym, get that work in, you go to eat you
Shannon Sharpe
150 to begin with. You hear this man talk about he get on he61.257. You would never be 257. They can inject you, you can get a BBL and all that other stuff. You ain't going to be no257. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy. When ISO win the bet, which jersey you rocking, Dak or CD? You can go even old school and get Emmett to wear.
Chad Ochocinco
Which one you want? I'm gonna have them for you. Which One you want to wear? You want Roger Stall Back? You, you wanna. Damn, you wanna. You want Emma Smith? You want Prime? What you want?
Joe Johnson
You might want to tell him you ain't gonna lose.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I ain't gonna lose. Hey Joe, you know what Joe, look at this. Oh, I know you ain't never seen one of these. It's all Madden. Once upon a time, this was as important as an all pro man. Because if John man you play, you get this. You go ask any guy that got this. This is a. You remember Jerry Ball? Jerry Ball played with the Detroit Lions. He had a company called Icebox and he made these. So I wouldn't put up one of this. If you don't like this one, this is another one.
Chad Ochocinco
I like, I like that. I like that. What you mean you wouldn't have put a. What?
Shannon Sharpe
Hold on, hold on.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey Ocho, he.
Shannon Sharpe
Or maybe you like the letterman jacket.
Chad Ochocinco
No, I like the other one. I like that leather, that black one.
Shannon Sharpe
Or, or this recently got put into the East West Shrine hall of Fame. This is the actual.
Chad Ochocinco
I like that one. I like that too. I like that too. Boy.
Shannon Sharpe
And you know, I know you like.
Chad Ochocinco
I had to come over there and go shopping, boy,
Shannon Sharpe
so I just said, you know, like I said, Ocho, I don't know if you ever played in front of John Madden, but Madden used to have to see you play in order to get that. And they used to get these trophies. Man, that trophy was so damn heavy. My brother got. My brother was all pro. My John man loved my brother. One of the few guys that had his sleeves up in Green Bay anytime. And I remember the first time I made it, I think it was 94. And then I made it 96, 97, 98. And then I went went to the Ravens. I made it in 2000. So I was a five time all Madden. But it was as important. It was more important than Pro Bowl. You would much rather make all man than make a Pro Bowl. Much much rather make all make John man team because John man was the end all when John man had passed some roll like Lord, first of all you name of the week. Yeah, you know, hey you, you gave it a week and he come that Shannon Sharp could play it any arrow. Oh man.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey, it's. Hey, it's kind of like Dick Vital talking about you when you in college ain't a man.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, yes.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah,
Shannon Sharpe
so I'm just saying Joe, whatever, whatever you want. I mean I got the Kobe's, I got the stamps, I got the jackets, I got Shirts.
Chad Ochocinco
We're gonna take our time. We're gonna take. It's a long season. We got a long season ahead of us. Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Never gonna get it. Never gonna get it. Never gonna get it. Hey, you better go. Oh, you better go to Ocho to try. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no.
Chad Ochocinco
What's gonna happen is I'm gonna collect a little bit from both of y'.
Shannon Sharpe
All.
Chad Ochocinco
From both of y'.
Narrator/Advertiser
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Joe Johnson
I'm not gonna lose. I ain't really worried about that.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
All right.
Shannon Sharpe
I ain't either, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Fox should take a billups tight role. Fox has proven to be clutch in the fourth quarter during his career. He just needs to manage the game and be the closer.
Chad Ochocinco
I agree. Because he gonna be there. The type of money he gonna be making the next some OD years, he gonna. He gonna be there. They're gonna have to figure that out. They gotta figure that out.
Shannon Sharpe
I gotta say, it's gonna be funny to watch Wimby, but, man, I'm excited to see this dude in the next Olympics also. Knicks in six. Grab you a Twix. Hello.
Chad Ochocinco
Come on.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey. Oh, Wendy gonna try to. Man, do you know what they. Cause think about it. The US Team was on in Paris on trench soil and took the gold. You don't think France would like nothing more on American soil in 28 than to take that gold back? And we've won. And we've won the goal every year since we wanted 8, 12, 16, 20, and 20. 20. What? 21, 24. So we got five straight.
Chad Ochocinco
What you talking about?
Shannon Sharpe
They want that. Please tell me you saw Ocho nightcap sign on Waffle House. Will we ever get a segment where we meet the team as Jordan, etc for Q A? I mean, you probably see Jordan. You probably seen Jordan. Y' all probably seen. Ash didn't know what you was looking at, but Ash do not like the camera. Ash has always wanted to be behind the camera. So probably not Jordan. You guys have seen Jordan. You see Jordan all the time. Because everybody that sees me in the airport, you've never seen me. Probably 90 of the time, Jordan's gonna be with me because we're going somewhere to take. Yeah, and even when I come to Atlanta, that's the only thing, because, like, sometimes I come a day earlier and he comes a day later. But, like, when I'm going to LA or I'm going. Nah, you're gonna. You're gonna see Jordan. Big three. Here's a scenario. Y' all on vacay in the Maldives with y' all ladies on a day. A day party boat. Boat power goes out one mile from shore. Coast Guard is six hours away. What's y' all next move? See my black ass right there?
Joe Johnson
I'm hitting that water.
Chad Ochocinco
What you mean you hitting the water? To do what?
Joe Johnson
Shoot, Backstroke, Slow stroke, back to shore. A mile out.
Chad Ochocinco
A mile out. Boy, they gonna find you floating with the fishes, homeboy.
Joe Johnson
We in the Maldives. Ain't nothing out there, man.
Chad Ochocinco
You ain't got that type of stamina, bro.
Joe Johnson
Yo, you had. Ain't no current. Ain't nothing moving the water, just.
Chad Ochocinco
That's a mile, Ocho. A mile of swimming.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't think he realized how far. Miles. I'm sitting right there to the Coast Guard.
Joe Johnson
Listen, you can sit there for six hours.
Shannon Sharpe
I ain't got nothing to do. Hell, I've been on the boat probably longer than that.
Joe Johnson
I'm hitting that water, Joe.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey, I don't. I don't see that, Ojo.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, if. If I'm Michael Phelps, I might think about it.
Joe Johnson
I'm not about swimming. I ain't talking about swimming, man. You get. Get in there and just slow stroke that thing.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, man, please.
Shannon Sharpe
The last thing you want to do. Getting tired on land is one thing. Getting tired in the water and is something different. Cause your black ass can't stand up.
Chad Ochocinco
What do you mean?
Joe Johnson
Got relaxed.
Chad Ochocinco
You gonna leave Cambodia? You gonna leave Cambodia on the boat?
Joe Johnson
Relax. She know how to swim.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, look here. I know Cambodia might be surrounded by water, but she ain't swimming no mile.
Joe Johnson
It's nice and calm now.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm good. I'mma read to the. I'm. Wait till the coast guard. I ain't got.
Chad Ochocinco
Wait until.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Joe, you've been at. You've been out into the Maldives.
Chad Ochocinco
No, I ain't been out there.
Joe Johnson
Well, you know, you're in the middle of nowhere, huh?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Yes.
Joe Johnson
Nowhere, man. I had. I had to stay out there, man. I was. Six days. I stayed at the underwater. The underwater villa? Yeah, yeah, the villa. Obviously, I forgot the name of it, but, you know, you go to your room and you surrounded by the water. So you sleep in. The fishes swimming around, you know all that. Yeah, yeah, but listen, it was. It was a group and you know the fishing.
Shannon Sharpe
Ready to tell the homeboy, say, hey, that hut number three, they be getting prison all the time. The fish be telling your business. Hey.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, is. Is it mosquitoes out there?
Joe Johnson
N. Well, none of that, Joe. Yeah, I. I just know it's as far you land. You land out There. And you got to take a seaplane just to get to the. To the bungalows.
Chad Ochocinco
How far is that?
Joe Johnson
That's about another 30, 40 minute drive. I mean, plane ride and.
Chad Ochocinco
And I know to get to the Maldives. That's far.
Shannon Sharpe
What? Yeah. Hell yeah. 16 hours.
Joe Johnson
And I ain't doing it no more.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, you know, and when I get over there, I'm gonna put down a mean demonstration.
Chad Ochocinco
Hello.
Shannon Sharpe
Because I'm over there. A mean one, boy. Hey, mama gonna get a mean one.
Joe Johnson
Boy. That would. That would love the long flight. Boy. It was nice, though. The food, you know, just the. The aesthetics, man. It was very nice. Very nice.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I'm just saying, hey, like 16 hours. He's gonna be 16 hours. You know what going on, mama. So just so. Yay. Just so we clear. And new, man. Welcome to the team. I so I love seeing brothers climbs to different heights. Can't nobody make me hate unk. That's a good man. Thank you, bro. I appreciate it.
Chad Ochocinco
I appreciate that.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. I am so excited about Joe. Obviously, Ocho and I've been at this thing September be three years, and you know, hey, we found somebody. For the longest time, it was just gonna be me and Ocho, but, you
Chad Ochocinco
know, hey, hey, hey.
Shannon Sharpe
Joe coming on and just wanted to make sure y' all like, man, get Joe, guys. You might want something, but if somebody else don't want it, what? It doesn't make any sense.
Chad Ochocinco
Right, right.
Shannon Sharpe
Once. Once he was bought in, like, yeah, I want to be a part of this. It was a no brainer for us, but we just had to make sure that's something that he wanted, and we didn't want to force that. We didn't want to make him feel like, man, Joe, you got to take this opportunity because if you don't, we're gonna hire somebody else. No, we weren't. It was gonna be okay. No show. It was gonna be hunkin Ocho for the next year, the next year after. Because if Joe says, you know, hey, I kind of want to do the same role that I'm doing, you know, at X, Y and Z. But he's like, hey, I want to be a part of this. I want a.
Chad Ochocinco
Whatever you need, let me know. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So it was really a no brainer.
Chad Ochocinco
I appreciate it too. And I really want to thank the fans because they. They've been petitioned for this for so long, bro. You know what I mean? And I feel like if it wasn't for the fans, I don't know if this will happen, you know? After every episode that we've all taped and had, they kept at. They kept petitioning for me to be back on. So very appreciate, very appreciative and grateful for you guys. So thank you.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, and I think. I think once we did. We did the nightcap outside where we did all those events in New York, it was over after that.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I put down that main demonstration on y'. All. It was a rap. Not just keeping it 100, then we
Shannon Sharpe
got to keep it real, fella.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Joe, you gotta chill.
Shannon Sharpe
Joe gotta chill.
Joe Johnson
You gotta chill.
Shannon Sharpe
We played 2K. My GM, just Kobe era 2002, man. I'm giving these boys that work with ISO and Al go check out this chat. Would y' all rather be blind or deaf?
Chad Ochocinco
Give me death, hell, yeah.
Joe Johnson
I gotta be, yeah. Can't see now.
Chad Ochocinco
I got the baby.
Shannon Sharpe
Sometimes when y' all be talking, would they be talking foolish? I pretend I can't hear now.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Say, hey, hey. Like my dad is saying, boy, I'm far from crazy, but I can play crazy. You know I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, I play crazy. Yeah, yeah, I know.
Shannon Sharpe
And the thing you know, also, if you didn't see and you've been blind all your life, it's cool. But if you had your sight and lose it or if you've been deaf your whole life or had your hearing and lose it, I think that is different. Like, if you've never had sight, you don't really know what it's like to see. So you just. Everything. All the other senses are become heightened. Your sense of taste, your sense of smell, your hearing become the touch. Everything's become heightened to. To compensate. But, man, I mean, you got to be. Hit that ray charge. You have to feel them. Okay.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah. Little tiny, yeah. Oo, Getting Molly walk for free. King ISO, please give the people what they want. Oh, drooling.
Chad Ochocinco
Only you already know it. Y' all already know it. Y' all already know how I'm doing.
Joe Johnson
Joe gonna be in trouble because he don't understand. You know, after being there with all these. All these boys that do it at the highest level. You feel me? The past eight years, you're gonna be like three or four steps behind.
Chad Ochocinco
Joe, you crazy.
Joe Johnson
Hell, I'm just telling you. I'm telling you ahead of time.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm gonna.
Shannon Sharpe
You.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm gonna use this jab. I'm gonna stay on that phone and use this jab. Ain't nothing you're gonna be able to do.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Joe,
Shannon Sharpe
he ain't gonna be able to get.
Chad Ochocinco
If he do, he gonna have to take two, three of these, and they're gonna put him down. That's what I'm trying to think.
Joe Johnson
Hey, I don't even got to get inside. I could fight. I could get him from distance to hit him when I want to.
Shannon Sharpe
Man, please. You crazy.
Joe Johnson
Every jab you throw, Joe, I'm gonna parry that and come on through there.
Chad Ochocinco
Man, I promise. You ain't. Oh, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Everything you throw, I'm. Parry that thing and come on and do what I need to do.
Chad Ochocinco
Chad, I can't. I can't wait to put.
Joe Johnson
You gotta remember when you throw that jab, you know, you wide open.
Chad Ochocinco
Huh? No, no, not. Not mine. Not the way I throw mine.
Joe Johnson
Hey, I don't care how you throw it. You gotta let it go. When you let it go, you wide open.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, Joe, you ain't gonna. You ain't even gonna be in striking rain.
Shannon Sharpe
Cause the.
Chad Ochocinco
My. My reach so long, bro, you ain't gonna.
Joe Johnson
You ain't gonna be able to get close goddamn reach. Once I slip it, I'm hit you in your face. What?
Chad Ochocinco
Okay. When I hit you in your damn throat and make your. Make your teeth click, you and you hit you right there in the Adam's apple, we're gonna see what's gonna happen.
Joe Johnson
I want you to keep talking now because you just making it worse on yourself.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, okay. We gonna see. We gonna see. Oh, you have to be the ref. All right.
Shannon Sharpe
Darren Fox is betting on his points under in the NBA Finals. The doj, Cash Patel.
Chad Ochocinco
Man, stop it. Y' all gotta chill.
Shannon Sharpe
AJ Brown, Hassan Reddick, massage therapist. That boy Tender Jaylen Hurts has been vindicated. Who's a better duo? Sterling and Shannon. OO and TIO, ISO and T. Mac. Also, if the Knicks win, give OO the crown ISO and wipe out the 5700. Oh, hell.
Chad Ochocinco
Hell no.
Shannon Sharpe
It ain't giving up no damn 5,900 and plus interest.
Joe Johnson
My crown tell you. I'm tell you. Listen, I'm gonna tell you what the saying is now. Bring your mama. Women. Yama.
Shannon Sharpe
Huh?
Joe Johnson
Obama, Nixon, Six.
Shannon Sharpe
So you sticking with the Knicks and Six.
Joe Johnson
You know, I'm still. I'm still. I'm sticking with him like honey this.
Chad Ochocinco
Come on, man.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Joe, you've been wrong all. All series long, man. It's cool.
Shannon Sharpe
Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, y' all talk about oak like he mad dog. No good.
Chad Ochocinco
Now we just tell him he just
Joe Johnson
ain't playing with some people.
Shannon Sharpe
You some People you can laugh and joke around with. He just ain't one of the people. Especially if you don't know him. If you know him, you don't play with him like that.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, they're telling you the truth, period.
Joe Johnson
Hey, that Martin episode was so funny with Mad Dog. Well, I was waiting on somebody big to come around like, what the hell?
Chad Ochocinco
Hey.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you see what Keyshawn did to Blueface? It's definitely levels. Yeah. Come on, man. What? Blueface? I tried to tell Blueface. I said, man, no, I've been trying. I said, man, look here, man. They're both professional, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey, hey, hold on. Keyshawn out here whooping boys for fun, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he whooping, boy. Hey, that. That young boy, there ain't nothing to be playing with.
Joe Johnson
Nice.
Chad Ochocinco
Him, him and him. Him and Haney gonna get in there.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I mean, I. I heard reports. We know how that be until. Until the actual fighters say it's a go. And I saw him agree to it on Twitter. That's one thing, but it'd be so many different. So many players of people in.
Shannon Sharpe
I want to see him put the
Chad Ochocinco
name on the contract, though, boy. Oh, we
Shannon Sharpe
send Oak to get your 5,900 from Ocho. Yeah, I need to say, oh, here, give me 4,000.
Joe Johnson
You gonna send who?
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, hey, hey. I would say, oh. I would say, oh, give me 4,000, and Ocho owe me six. You can have it.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, you ain't even got to say, oh, hell, just send me. I don't think I'll do the same damn thing.
Joe Johnson
No, you ain't, Joe.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn.
Joe Johnson
Matter of fact, send Joe to come get it and watch. Yeah, send Joe to come get it. Yeah, because, hey, I'm a fool. You ain't Oakley up like a lawn.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, and it says 6, 900 when I come get it, partner, because it's your interest.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Joe, get in the blood.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, okay. I will say less.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, get in the blood. Hey, you. And you. Bet you be. You better be willing to die about this. Six, nine.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Joe Johnson
Say less.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Cowboys making the playoff this season. New and improved defense, new energy. Go. Let's go, baby. Nah, Mike, it ain't happening.
Joe Johnson
See? You see, that wasn't me. That was. That was you see?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I know. Uncle don't be on here. Poor Marin. Talking about my cowboy season ain't even started yet. Come on, man, don't start acting like that.
Shannon Sharpe
It already ended, though.
Chad Ochocinco
It already hit.
Shannon Sharpe
Boy, looking good. But you know how old you Is I said, you know how oo is.
Chad Ochocinco
What you mean
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho gonna be, man? Ocho gonna be. Joe. Didn't I. Didn't I tell you? See, you didn't think I know basketball, but I know football. Did what I tell you, Joe?
Chad Ochocinco
No, no.
Joe Johnson
If I was able to predict basketball the way I have college and the NBA, what you think will happen during
Chad Ochocinco
football, man, your ass just a got lucky.
Joe Johnson
Hell, okay, matter of fact, if I'm. If I'm on a lucky streak, I'm gonna go play the lotto tomorrow.
Shannon Sharpe
Yo.
Chad Ochocinco
Go play it.
Joe Johnson
Tell you when we be famous.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, the Oo Shy to come through and to get that 50 that Funko yet. Oo 58. Savage getting his 5,900. Yeah, coming through. Got to AJ on some sucker ish for that. That's a punk move. Can't say I disagree, bro. I can't say I disagree. Out of Ocho. If I honestly Ocho. Some things the CIA with waterboarding technique couldn't get out. I'm just being real with you, man. You take it. I hope maybe that. Maybe that was AI. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
You take it to your grave.
Joe Johnson
Hell yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
To do something like that, Joe.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Did you something like that, Ocho. You'll know you taking it to your grave. We finally got some someone who can defend the big cowboys. The big blue cowboys from Uncle Nocho. Welcome.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes, sir,
Shannon Sharpe
he. You can't defend the indefensible. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Chad Ochocinco
You gotta chill, man.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm just saying you can't do that.
Chad Ochocinco
Can we get the season?
Shannon Sharpe
But you gonna find out the hard way. You gonna find out the hard way.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Gonna find a hard way. It just gets tougher as time goes on. I just don't like to be the barrel bad.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay?
Shannon Sharpe
I really don't. But sometimes you force me. That's what I got to do.
Chad Ochocinco
I bet.
Shannon Sharpe
Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite unc. And that's my partner and co host. That's Liberty City Zone. That's the former pro bowler all Pro bingo Ring of fame honoree. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson. And the permanent official third member of the big three University of Arkansas alum, a seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks, the smooth shooting two guard that is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit the subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for Your support and your continued support. Thank you for helping making Club Shay Shake and Nightcap. Hey, I think this week O Joe. Joe, we were number 13 on YouTube.
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Shannon Sharpe
But Nightcap, that's what's up, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
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Podcast: Nightcap
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Guest/Panelist: Joe "ISO" Johnson
Date: June 5, 2026
This episode dives into the raw, unfiltered sports discourse Nightcap is known for. Shannon, Ochocinco, and new regular Joe Johnson talk NBA player beefs (especially Oakley/Ewing), the potential seismic Steph-LeBron superteam, retro NBA uniforms, NFL culture revelations starring AJ Brown, and a heated debate of Sports Illustrated’s best NFL “Triplets” for 2026. Laced with locker room stories and competitive banter, the trio oscillate between candid insight, humor, and real talk about the sports world, both past and present.
[03:19–13:07]
Charles Oakley’s Beef: Oakley is publicly "drawing the line" with Ewing, citing Ewing not speaking to him at a Cleveland game (Oakley’s hometown), despite a decade of playing together and personal ties:
Hosts Reactions:
Oakley’s Reputation: Tales of Oakley’s intimidating presence and physicality, including stories of him confronting players who wronged him, even driving "ten hours" to do so, and not hesitating to slap a guy at shootaround [08:35–09:03].
Michael Jordan is the Only Peacemaker: MJ could calm Oakley down when few others could [10:05].
Memorable Quote:
[13:12–17:19]
Rumor: Steph Curry allegedly planning to recruit LeBron James to the Warriors for a final “title push” that could include Curry, Draymond Green, Jimmy Butler, and Kristaps Porzingis.
Analysis: Panel is both excited and skeptical:
Would it work?
[17:34–20:03]
[23:36–31:30]
Bombshell: A.J. Brown admitted to “leaking stories” to the media to motivate the Eagles [23:36]:
Host Disapproval:
Locker Room Ethics:
[34:07–38:34]
Unpacking the List: Discussion on Sports Illustrated’s top “triplets” (QB, RB, WR or TE) for the season:
Pushback:
[38:55–42:52]
[54:24–66:44]
Health & Fitness Tips:
NFL “Letterman” Moments: Shannon reminisces about the importance of making the "All-Madden Team":
Resilience and Career Moves: Tribute to Joe Johnson’s addition to Nightcap as a regular, crediting the fans’ requests and chemistry.
[61:48–76:09]
Maldives Survival Scenario: Would you swim a mile for help if your boat stranded? Joe says yes; Shannon and Ocho say hell no—wait for rescue.
**Lifestyle differences, sportscaster/athlete insight, and playful trash talk round out the segment.
Blind vs. Deaf Hypothetical:
Competitive Jabs:
On Oakley’s Grit: “Man, Oakley don't have a basketball body. Oak got a football body… he is strong, big ass, man.” — Shannon Sharpe [07:01]
On the LeBron/Steph Team-up: “The basketball world would love to see those guys team up… must-watch TV.” — Ochocinco [15:41]
On Leadership: “As captain, there’s no need to leak anything… they're gonna listen to you first.”—Joe Johnson [31:30]
On Locker Room Privacy: “Some things the CIA and waterboarding couldn't get out. I'm just being real...” — Shannon Sharpe [75:21]
Trash Talk Hall of Fame: “When I hit you in your damn throat and make your teeth click… right in the Adam's apple, we're gonna see what's gonna happen.” — Ochocinco to Joe [69:49]
This episode was vintage Nightcap: candid, story-driven, and unfiltered. The chemistry among Shannon, Ocho, and Joe produced a stream of memorable locker room wisdom, playful arguments, and honest takes on what it means to compete and lead in pro sports. With healthy doses of nostalgia, the show weaves together serious takes with jokes, making it equal parts entertaining and insightful for diehard sports fans and casual listeners alike.