Nightcap Hour 3: World Cup Predictions + 5 WRs that need a BOUNCE back season

Summary

Nightcap Hour 3: World Cup Predictions + 5 WRs That Need a Bounce Back Season

Date: May 25, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, ISO Joe Johnson

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Episode Overview

In this lively, unfiltered late-night episode, sports legends Shannon Sharpe, Chad Ochocinco, and ISO Joe Johnson tackle burning topics across football, basketball, and soccer. Centered around World Cup predictions and an in-depth discussion on NFL wide receivers needing bounce-back seasons, this episode is packed with rapid-fire Q&A, candid player analysis, and the charismatic, hilarious banter that defines Nightcap.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Player Fade Picks: NBA Playoff Props

[02:30–05:52]

• The trio dives into a ‘More or Less’ prop bet game on current NBA playoff player stats (Harden turnovers, Jared Allen’s points, Josh Hart’s rebounds, and Mikal Bridges’ PRA).
• Memorable Quote:
  • “More like Oprah. You get a turnover. You get a turnover.” — Chad Ochocinco, betting 'more' on James Harden turnovers [03:18]
• Encouragement for listeners to ride the hot streaks and trust Ocho's NBA takes.

2. Q&A Mailbag & Discord Voicemails

[12:37–18:29, 26:09–70:21]

• Listeners from around the country send in questions ranging from player comparisons, old school football, basketball rosters, to personal shout-outs.
• Notable Moment: Birthday shoutouts to callers, including a 61-year-old from Jacksonville and a 28-year-old from Memphis [13:02, 16:12].
• The crew reminisces about NFL career highlights, favorite players, and even bucket hat fashion legacy [28:03].
• Insightful discussions about authenticity, the nature of ‘haters,' and what drives professional athletes to stay at the top [36:25–38:14].

3. NFL Grass vs. Turf Debate

[17:00–20:24]

• Prompted by a listener’s World Cup question about NFL stadiums converting to grass, hosts break down the practical, financial, and injury-related differences between turf and grass.
• Quote:
  • “It’s easier to maintain. It’s cheaper … if you got regular grass … when the weather gets bad … you gotta replace it.” — Shannon [17:00]
  • Ocho notes he “never had any lower extremity injuries” but sees a pattern in injuries on turf [18:46].
  • Sharp reminisces about the infamous old turf fields: “Look here. Hey. That shower after the game… Lord have mercy.” [20:00]

4. World Cup & PSG Discussion

[33:01–34:26, 67:22–68:16]

• Ocho reflects on Paris Saint-Germain’s Champions League struggles despite having Messi, Mbappé, and Neymar.
• “Even though Mbappé is probably, arguably maybe the best player in the world right now, he just doesn’t play well collectively with his teammates.” — Chad Ochocinco [34:26]
• World Cup pick: Ocho confidently selects France, citing squad depth at every position [67:22–68:16].

5. QB Play and Chris Paul’s Future

[34:33–36:03]

• Debate on Chris Paul’s value as a player vs. mentor and which teams he could have helped in the playoffs.
• ISO Joe Johnson argues CP3 could have benefited Detroit by moving Cade Cunningham off the ball [36:03].

6. NBA Playoff Analysis: Spurs vs. OKC

[29:07–44:27, 38:58–43:20]

• Breakdown of the Spurs tying up the series against OKC, with focus on defensive schemes and why both teams struggled offensively.
• “Both defenses played really well. We know both teams have outstanding defenses.” — Shannon [42:50]
• Discussion of key players like Chet Holmgren and Victor Wembanyama (“Wimby”) [39:53–40:22].

7. Start, Bench, Cut Debates

[30:22–32:17]

• Entertaining debates with quick-fire “start, bench, cut” rankings for NFL and NBA legends:
  • WRs: Megatron, Julio, Larry Fitzgerald
  • NBA: Grant Hill, Scottie Pippen, Dominique Wilkins
  • TEs: John Mackey, Ozzy Newsome, Kellen Winslow
• Quote:
  • “I’m taking stats out of it … I’m just gonna go off what them boys did on the field.” — Ochocinco [31:03]

8. Top 5 WRs Who Need a Bounce Back Season

[54:43–56:22]

• Ocho’s picks with rationale:
  1. Keon Coleman – Needs a breakthrough year.
  2. Brian Thomas Jr. – Must return to rookie form.
  3. Quentin Johnston – Prove ability as a true No. 1 (especially after Keenan Allen’s departure).
  4. Marvin Harrison Jr. – Show top pick reasons and star potential.
  5. Xavier Legette (Carolina) – “Gotta pull it up out you. You can be special, bro.”
• Bonus: Jerry Jeudy mentioned as a potential comeback candidate [56:22].

9. Cultural Commentary, Banter, & Hilarious Analogies

[24:47–60:56]

• Extended banter about nightlife, best post-performance “routines,” and tongue-in-cheek advice on relationships and dating, with the kind of uninhibited honesty the show is known for.
• Ocho’s notorious “head to toe” comments trigger laughter and surprise from Shannon and Joe [50:34–54:43, 51:00–52:14].
• Meme-worthy moments debating “who you’d marry, kill, or hookup with” among (in)famous adult film stars — using football player comparisons for rating [58:08–61:00].
• Quote:
  • “Pinky in her prime and Cherokee, Julio Jones is one and AB is the other. That’s all I’m gonna say.” — Chad Ochocinco [61:43]

10. Detroit Sports Future

[69:38–70:21]

• Listener asks what it will take for the Pistons and Lions to win championships.
• Consensus: Pistons need more scoring depth, and the Lions’ key is staying healthy [69:53–70:21].

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• NBA Playoff Prop Bets:
  • “That joker been hotter than the last spoon in the crack house!” — Shannon, on Mikal Bridges’ playoff form [05:05]
• Player Health & Surfaces:
  • “Maybe we need to go back to grass.” — Ochocinco, on rising injuries with turf [18:46]
• World Cup Pick:
  • “France might pull it off this year ... at every position, ain't no weakness.” — Ochocinco [67:22]
• WR Bounce Backs:
  • “Keon Coleman has to have a good year. I wouldn't say bounce back. Brian Thomas Jr. ... show he can be a true number one.” — Ochocinco [54:52–56:10]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• NBA Prop Bets & Banter: [02:30–05:52]
• Voicemail Q&A (Grass vs. Turf, Shoutouts): [12:37–18:29]
• Spurs-OKC Playoff Recap: [29:07–44:27]
• Start/Bench/Cut Debates: [30:22–32:17]
• PSG, World Cup, and Soccer Talk: [33:01–34:26], [67:22–68:16]
• Top 5 NFL WRs Needing a Bounce Back: [54:43–56:22]
• Locker Room Laughs & Relationship Wisdom: [50:19–54:43]
• Detroit Pistons/Lions Path to a Title: [69:38–70:21]

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Episode Tone

Candid, unfiltered, and at times outrageous, the tone is jovial, often humorous, and always authentic. The chemistry among Shannon, Ocho, and ISO Joe is palpable, with the conversation seamlessly flowing between serious sports analysis, wild metaphor-laden banter, and playful jabs.

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For First-Time Listeners/Non-Listeners

This episode offers a quintessential Nightcap experience: playful, deeply knowledgeable sports insight, bold opinions, and off-the-cuff cultural commentary. Expect laughs, unexpected analogies, player-driven story time, and unfiltered honesty on sports and life.

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Summary

“Nightcap” delivers a night-time sports talk experience you’d be hard-pressed to find elsewhere: detailed, unscripted, and genuinely hilarious. This episode stands out for its in-depth World Cup coverage, sharp takes on NFL and NBA stars, and the warm, irrepressible personalities of three sports legends holding court, late-night style.

Transcript

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

what's up?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, we need to add a few more segments because I'm not sleepy.

[Joe]

I'm trying to figure out what they got to do with Joe and I. Because you not sleepy?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hell over there drinking Red Bull and coffee all damn night.

[Joe]

All right, More or less. James Harden, 3.5 turnovers. More or less?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

More. More.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hold on, hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

More like Oprah. You get a turnover. You get a turnover. Yes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't know. So you said he gotta have four turnovers.

[Joe]

Four turnovers. What's he averaging? He's averaging about five and a half. Six for the seat, for the series. Joe,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I know you and Ocho want to go more.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yo, listen. Listen to my basketball. Take Joe, let me do this, okay? Huh? I'm the one been right about everything regarding the NBA. Just listen to me. I got this. Just say more, all right?

[Joe]

Ocho said more. Jared Allen, 12 1/2 points. More or less than 12 1/2 points.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Closeout game. Cleveland. You saying more.

[Joe]

He gonna have to. Joe, I need one. I need at least one more game,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

all right? Yeah, I say more.

[Joe]

Josh Hart will have more than seven rebounds.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna say more. He be every damn well he does.

[Joe]

Mikhail Bridges will have. When you combine his points, rebounds and assists, he'll have more than 21 and a half. So points, rebounds and assists.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

This one here kind of tricky. What you leaning toward,

[Joe]

man? That joker. Hey, since game three of the Hawks, he been hot.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He been hot. He been hot.

[Joe]

Oh, we. Man, he could.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He been cooking with grease. I ain't gonna lie to you, man.

[Joe]

That joker been hotter than the last spoon in the crack house. I don't know what. Hey. I don't know what happened after that game, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, he found. He found some confidence. And damn, he done wrote it all.

[Joe]

Let's go.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

More.

[Joe]

Let's go get. Yeah, and keep that. Keep that thing in his back to make sure.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All right?

[Joe]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

Let's see. Let me take a picture.

[Joe]

Ain't no cold. Shannon, 25, doing $125 prize picks, you know?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Feels good to be, right? Yeah.

[Joe]

All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What happened, bro?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Madden slept six hours, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah? You gonna be up?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Uncle. Hey. You've been in North Carolina?

[Joe]

I have. Mainly just Charlotte and Raleigh, though. Kannapolis. I went to. Like I said, I went to Kannapolis to get. Pick up two dog, two puppies.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, I'm in Raleigh now. I just don't know what to do because damn near one o'.

[Joe]

Clock. It ain't nothing to do with Raleigh.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No. Hey. They ain't got no hey.

[Joe]

No, no.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay,

[Joe]

before we get to the super chats, we got three video voicemail from our discord. I said, you know, we might have to sneak in. You know, I might meet y' all there. You know, Houston. I could fly at about 5 o'. Clock. We go do what we do. And then, boom, I'm about got the first thing on the flight, first thing smoking the next morning when Whenever y' all say make it happen.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, shoot. I'm ready to wear my boots, Joe, man, y'.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All. Y' all be flying, bro. I think you and uncle be flying for real.

[Joe]

Hey, Joe, look, I got you a night. I got one night. I'm like Luther Vandross. If only for one night. If only for one night.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I tell y', all, well, I'll have everything set up. That way we're gonna have no problem. Y' all ain't gonna have to pull your wallets out or nothing. Everything gonna be.

[Joe]

I think Mama let me go.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hold on, hold on, Joe. Now, when we go to Area 29, I got us on that part. Take care of nothing. Every. Everything good.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, I'm gonna get the ones then. How about that?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We good, Joey. Joe, listen to me.

[Joe]

Hey, let's go get us a nice little brunch. We get us a brunch on Sunday when we get there. We get from the airport.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey. Oh, we. Oh, no, no. Oh, hold on. We got to go to Chapman and Kirby.

[Joe]

I don't give a damn what we going. I'm just saying we gotta go get

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

a point in Chapman at Kirby. Okay.

[Joe]

You know, okay. Get us a nice little brunch, Go back, take us a little nap.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Then get ready to head on down there. As a matter of fact. Yeah, I would have my bag. Hey, we have a. A car service. Because I have my bags already packed. I'm going straight to see.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

This a good thing, too. Hey, this a good thing about it too, Uncle Joe. We can go to Chapman and Kirby during the day. You know, enjoy ourselves with the people, you know, vibe y'. All. Y' all could drink. Y' all little. Me, right, the little and whatever y'. All, you know, y' all drink. Make sure they have some la. Make sure they have some LA for you. Yeah, we go take a nap because, you know, we old. Then we go to Area 29. You can stay to Area 29 all night. You hear me? Until it's time for your flight.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Joe, I'm saying, what's going on in Area 29? I'm going to be in there all night.

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[Stefano Pallard]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay,

[Joe]

This is a beautiful site. I ain't no being. Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know. You know, they call me Little bill in Area 29, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They call you one Little Bill? Little Bill?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, they, you know, used to call me a Little Bill when I was. When I was a little kid. Right.

[Joe]

Okay.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe]

All right, let's take a listen to that first video.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What's up, family?

[Joe]

Hey. This is D.L. butler representing Jacksonville, Florida, aka Duvall. How you guys doing? Shannon Ocho and the ISO.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hello. Listen, I celebrated my 61st birthday yesterday, and I just wanted. If you don't mind, please give me a positive shout out, and I want

[Joe]

you guys to continue doing great work. I really enjoy listening to you and

[ISO Joe Johnson]

watching you every night. Have a blessed day. Thank you, bro. Love and respect.

[Joe]

Absolutely. Happy 61st Bros. Duvall. Duvall.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ojo.

[Joe]

You spend a little time in Duvall?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Shoot the beat up on the Jags. That's about it.

[Joe]

Yeah. You know, I was a Jaguar killer.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

I was a Jaguar killer, Joe, when I was in Baltimore.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Caught two games and then set up another.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, wait, wait. One of my favorite players who I studied and I studied to a T and tried to mimic some of his move and steal some of the things that he did.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Jimmy Smith. Oh, my God.

[Joe]

You know, Jimmy got drafted by the Cowboys, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They let Jimmy get out the toe.

[Joe]

He got. If I'm not mistaken. I think he got. He got into a car wreck and they had to remove some of his intestine.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Intestine is not gonna affect you running around.

[Joe]

I'm just saying the Cowboys drafted Jimmy out of Jackson.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Turned out to be.

[Joe]

And that. That Jimmy Smith. Yes, the Cowboys drafted him, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, Jimmy was special, boy.

[Joe]

Yeah, he. He was. I got an opportunity to see him up close and personal. He put 251, 291 on us. Fifteen catches, three touchdowns.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, D. Stocks and McAllister had absolutely.

[Joe]

Let's take a listen to our second discord.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, I just got this in the mail. About to pop it open.

[Luis]

Hop on that scan.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Have me a good weekend. Yes, sir.

[Joe]

Okay. Thank you, bro. I appreciate that. He got the. The hall of Fame edition. I appreciate that. Hey, hey, get back in here and let us know what you think about it. I guarantee you're gonna like it, man. It's a vsop, but it really drinks like an exo. Smooth, huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I look for that hall of Fame edition. I couldn't find it on there.

[Joe]

It's not on the site.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

This was. This was.

[Joe]

This.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

This was a couple months ago when I was looking. So I'm gonna have to get back on that edition.

[Joe]

Still up there.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, he got that hall of Fame edition, but he missing them sparks, though, boy.

[Joe]

No, he got him. I should put that man business in the street like that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, you mix that laporte with them sparks. Hey, it's gonna be some fireworks, baby. It's gonna be some fireworks.

[Joe]

Is there. Is there, Joe?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay, I got you. Yeah, give me another couple bottles.

[Joe]

What you call it? Bad box.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[Joe]

here's that. Here's our third one.

[Luis]

Hey, what's up? Or should I say uncs? My name is Luis. I'm straight out of Memphis. I'm turning 28 today, so hopefully I can get a shout out or a piece of advice for the youth. You know, we could always use that. But also, me and my girl, we love watching you guys. I mean, even though she says I watch out too damn much. Like, damn. You watching them again? You damn right. They'd be funny as hell. But you. Ocho ISO, y' all keep on going, man. Many blessings to you guys. I'm wishing for more success for you guys as well. My question would be. Now, the FIFA World cup is rolling in. Therefore, they're forcing NFL stadiums to turn into grass stadiums. So why is the U. S. Always been predominantly turf based?

[Joe]

It's easier to maintain.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, bingo.

[Joe]

It's cheaper because. So now guess what? They tear. They tear that grass up. And then I got to replace it. That turf. I gotta do nothing. I gotta replace that turf at all.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Especially on top of that, too. You think about some of the cold weather cities, Some of the cities where it gets cold. Buffalo, you know, Pittsburgh, New York, you don't have to be. Yeah, New York. You don't have to deal with any kind of maintenance at all. Hey, if you got regular grass, hey, it.

[Malcolm Glebel]

It.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It. It's.

[Joe]

Hell, yeah. And then some tea. Like Pittsburgh, the. The Panthers and the Steelers play there. And that's why it Look. That's why it looks terrible. So it's. It's easier to maintain. It's cheaper. I mean, especially like Ocho said, when the weather gets bad. Now, the Texans. You know, the Texans got grass, but it's Texas Arizona, they got rollout. They roll the grass out. It rolled up in big old big balls.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Arizona and Houston, hey, they got that Bermuda grass. I think the Raiders do, too. Man, it is beautiful. It's so flat. And I'm getting me per.

[Joe]

Immaculate. Oh, I grabbed what you call them Broncos when I played, man, I grew, man, that thing was nice.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It was real grass.

[Joe]

Real grass. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, what y' all rather play on the grass or Turkey?

[Joe]

Yeah, Hell, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I've never. I've never had a problem with any joke, and it's. I'm really the wrong one to ask, but with the injuries that. That continue to happen year in and year out, I'm starting to think it's something wrong with the turf.

[Joe]

I'm. I'm.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm starting to think. I'm starting to believe it, you know, that. That there's a problem with the surface. But the fact that I was able to play on the turf for so many years in Cincinnati, I ain't never play on grad. Show.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And I was fine. I never had any, you know, any. Any lower extremity injuries. So. But. But with. With all the other players getting hurt, man, I just, like, maybe. Maybe we need to go back to grad.

[Joe]

But, see, Ocho, you didn't get an opportunity to play on the Astro T, where it was just concrete with that green sheet underneath the top of it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And you played on that.

[Joe]

Y'. All. Y' all used to have that old Riverfront Stadium. Yes, yes. Real.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I missed that. I missed that. What, about two, three years, huh?

[Joe]

Cincinnati, Philly had. Philly was terrible. Turf was terrible. The. The old house of pain, the Astrodome, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Kansas City, actually, believe it or not, used to be turf. Yes. With the Seahawks before they moved to Lumen Field. They had turf.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, you probably get some mean turf, man.

[Joe]

You had a man. Look here.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey. Hey. That shower after the game.

[Joe]

Lord have mercy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

On the elbows.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Your man. You and you. You don't even know it, man. You get it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe. Hey, that junk hurts, though.

[Joe]

And it doesn't heal because guess what? You're gonna be falling again.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Yeah, man. Hey, I don't. I don't miss the. I don't miss. I don't miss that turf. I'm trying to think who else has some. I'm talking about some just terrible turf

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[Joe]

Who did I play? Pittsburgh. Green Bay. No, that was about it. But it was. Ooh. And then. Then they went to grass. But hey, I don't know. Like I said, to see Barry on that turf. Good luck, tackle. Good luck. Good luck. Cause he was just. It wasn't fair.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And we. And we. After all these years, we still ain't seen.

[Joe]

You'll never see anything like it. God only made one of him.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I think the closest thing we've got to it. That's not. Not almost. Not even almost somewhat comparable with Sean McCoy in his prime. Now Bijan Robinson, that's able to come to balance entice faces and make people like that and then get back to full speed.

[Joe]

The differences between those two guys, Ocho, they're one foot planners. If you look at Barrett, Barrett would literally hop, stop on both feet.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And he was like.

[Joe]

Like a slalom skier.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I mean, his.

[Joe]

The way I'm like, bro, how you. Man, if I did that? Acl, Patel are gone.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Everything.

[Joe]

You just have to see the way his body. How his body his. The dorsiflexion in his ankles, the way his body just moved. Ocho, you had. Like I said, some things you just need to see for yourself. I got an opportunity to see him up close and personal. On Thanksgiving, no less.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Joe]

Lord have mercy. It don't like I said some things like you need to see Jordan play or I wish I could have saw Michael Phelps swim or Usain Bolt run. But to see Barry Sanders run a football. Good Lord. I told y' all Uncle ISO keep that bad juju on the other side. Now, y'. All. Not y'. All. Now that steak went back with okc. Them nuns bless the spurs with a dub tonight. Hey, they might put them nuts on the plane instead of the okc.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, they damn sure brought us some good luck.

[Joe]

Ghost birds. Ocho, ISO. I live in Portland, Oregon. What do the players blazers need most? New player wise next season. What? Dame's gonna come back? Yeah, Dame's gonna be back. Denny, Damon, Danny. I like that. You can put them in the pick and roll. You got Clingan, you got a big. What are they gonna do with Grant? What are they gonna do with Shane Sharp? Joe, I thought he. I thought he was playing well.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, that's the high flyer.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And what's. What's. What's the young cat who came in with Wimby. Yeah, what they gonna do with school? I mean, you're gonna keep school. You. I mean, I think Holiday is a free agent. Are you gonna bring Holiday back? I think they got some questions, you know, they. They have to answer for their team, but I'm thinking they expecting Dame to come back and probably be at least a 22 to 25 point score. Okay, Ocho.

[Joe]

Yes. Yes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

So we'll see. It's gonna be fun to see him back out there playing, but we'll see the dynamics of the team. I think you got to find a way to keep. Keep Grant. You know, you got to keep them long Ranger guys because Dame ain't the best defender. So you want to surround him with guys who don't mind playing defense and doing some dirty work.

[Joe]

I agree. Hey, fam. Doctor. This is from Dr. Frankie Bellamy. Hey, fam, Is there any possibility you'll bring in, like, the bucket hat that, like the clip we saw with Tim Johnson? I think nightcap bucket hats would go hard. Love y', all, man. What bucket? But you remember the dude that was imitating me in the Hard Knocks video?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, man. Hey, that was funny.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Like, for like five or six years, that's all I wore everywhere I went. Not just in. In the meetings. But I'm talking about when I went out, I would have a bucket hat on.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And people know it's you because the only way I knew it was you because of the hat.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man. Yeah.

[Joe]

That team.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hold on. Hey, hold on, hold up, though. The dude who did you with that bucket hat, boy, I'm talking about, he had you down to the teeth. Hey, the way he moved his lips, the way he talked there, he had me in tears.

[Joe]

You're gonna have a hat down. I could see you. But the thing is, like, to me, to my ear, he sound like me.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I mean, so, like, man, when dude came out there, man, I was like, man, I look, I said, oh, my goodness.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, that wasn't that wasn't Gary Basketball.

[Joe]

No, no. His name was Tim Johnson, okay? He was a linebacker out of Youngtown State.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, that's classic for this game.

[Joe]

It was. Okay. B. B stands for bricks. Chat Ocho ISO could have built a wall with those bricks. Yeah, well, obviously I didn't expect them to shoot like they shot the light side of the ball in game two. In game three. I didn't expect that. Yeah, but I didn't expect them to play as bad. But I. I think we need to give some of that credit to the Spurs. The Spurs?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you got. You gotta get.

[Joe]

They were locked in tonight.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You got to give all that credit to the spurs because they were the more desperate team considering the fact they knew going back to OKC they couldn't go back down.

[Joe]

Three, one.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, sir.

[Joe]

How y' all in the chat going to complain about ads? Ungrateful. But I keep telling them, they keep complaining about the ads, but. But every time we turn around. Hey, what you call me a raise? The gravity raise.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, graphics team. Be over there showing.

[Joe]

Hey, you know, I threw. I threw a little something at him.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

What up, big three. ISO start, bench, cut. Grant Hill, Pippin, Dominique, Ocho, Megatron. Julio Laugh. Is Gerald. John Mackey, Ozzy, Kellen, Winslow. Oh, it's beat it for me, Big Kale. I'm starting. I'm benching Ozzy. I'm cutting Mackie. Sorry.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm starting.

[Joe]

Eek.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Benching Pip. And I got cut.

[Joe]

Grant Ocho Megatron, Julio Laugh Is Gerald. Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I'm. I'm taking stats out of it. I'm not even looking at stats because that's everything everybody will go off of. I'm just gonna go off of what them boys did on the field.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm going. Calvin Johnson starting. Julio Larry cooking cut. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not doing stats and all that. Could you go by that? You know, it won't tell the story on how special. Hell with all that.

[Joe]

You do realize Ocho super freak Cinco. And if you met another, he's a phony. It's great to see two teams that were cultivated and internally built battle on the biggest stages. Put down that coat. Orange juice Jones. I saw you and him and him. Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Walking in the rain.

[Joe]

You miss. We'll sing that again, Jones.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's right. Man. Man, let me put that in my library right now.

[Joe]

So much. I followed you today. So come on in and close your mouth. Are you cold busted? Yeah. Don't go looking in there. Everything that You. Everything that you came with is packed up into the closet.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[Joe]

you wear curb kick. I saw you with. Castle. Should stay aggressive, but I think the spurs play better team ball when he's not always in John Morant mode and not forcing it. The west is the best.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he. He is, he is great in spurts.

[Joe]

Yes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But when you, when you use him, overuse him too damn much, that's when them big turnover started to happen. He's 6, 7, 8, 9 turnovers. And that can hurt you, but I

[Joe]

love the way they use. He's not a natural point either, though. ISO. He was a natural point guard.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no, no. He's a great combo guard.

[Joe]

Ocho, PSG fans since 2014. Can you tell everyone about PSG struggles to win the CL before last year? And what's your score prediction for the finals this year?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, well, you know what? The funny thing about it, when you look at psg, obviously, when I, I thought they would, they would dominate, not not only, not only where they were playing in the French league, but obviously Champions League when they had Messi. Dude, hey, hey, Uncle. And, and, And Joe, they had Messi, Mbappe and Neymar on the same team. You think about those two obviously playing up front. They should dominate everything from an offensive perspective. And it didn't work. You know, they, they, everybody now, they make jokes about Mbappe being a dictator, not really meshing well with some of the superstars around him. Always commanding the ball in general. The funny thing, Mbappe leaves right away. PSG win the whole thing again this year. Mbappe and Real Madrid, they don't play well. Goddamn. PSG right back in Champions League final again. They play on the 30th. They play so well as a team without. Even though Mbappe is probably, arguably maybe the best player in the world right now, he just doesn't play well collectively with his teammates. And I don't understand why, when he's so goddamn good. It's confusing to me where I understand the game of soccer and don't understand

[Joe]

why he can't play better than others.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, why didn't. Yeah, he doesn't. He doesn't play well with others despite him being so skillful so fast. I. I don't know. It's weird.

[Joe]

Ocho, you ever had Marlon Wayne cigars panel? What playoff team? Chris Paul could have helped, Man. I think they might have put that word out on Chris Paul.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You think?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, what you mean?

[Joe]

Look, but I mean, I think, I think he could have helped somebody. But the Problem is, it seemed to me teams wanted Chris Paul for mentorship. Chris Paul want to play?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So you know how some guys is okay being a. A, you know, come. This is what you need to do, blah, blah, blah, so forth and so on. Some guys are okay with that role. It didn't seem to me that Chris Paul was going to be okay with that role.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

So now you. You, hey, you look at. You look at Philly and you look at Kyle Lowry sitting over there, who's won a championship, who's been a great player in his league. I don't even know when the last time I seen him touch the damn floor.

[Joe]

Warm up.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's it. He over. He's standing up. He give you 600 claps a game. You know what I mean? He. He keep your young players in line. Help.

[Joe]

He.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He's an extension of the coach.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

C.P.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

john do that.

[Joe]

C.P. won't exactly.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I think C.P. obvious. The obvious team for me in this post season, obviously the Rockets. And to some degree, I think he could have helped Detroit.

[Joe]

Yes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Meaning you move cade to the 2 or the 3, take him off the ball, and then you, you know, you. You kind of use him in that way. I think Cade is a guy who you can maneuver around and if you need good point guard play somebody who could just, you know, orchestrate it, you know, they ain't got to do a whole hell of a lot, but, you know, they ain't gonna do nothing to hurt you neither. You know what I mean?

[Joe]

I agree. Joe, what's up? Can't wait for the NFL to start so we can get. Get at each other's next again on Philly. What drives you to keep pushing past haters? Love the show. Success brings enemies. We're gonna have haters now. The thing is, we've always had haters, guys. We just didn't have a platform where we could hear them or see them.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And guess what? If you ain't got no haters, you ain't popping. Hey, if you ain't got no haters, you ain't popping. Hey.

[Joe]

Right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, you ain't got no haters, you ain't popping.

[Joe]

Yeah, I. You know, I used to block. I. I ain't blocking no more haters because I need them to see these blessings. If I block them, they can't see the blessings that I'm getting.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I like it.

[Joe]

They can't see Ojo. But. But I don't understand, Joe. What I don't be. I just need somebody to help me understand. I don't like if I don't like something, why would I go buy it? Well, I don't like a person. Why would I go to their platform,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

get to get a reaction?

[Joe]

Yeah, you said you don't like me. Okay, so why are you here after I unfollowed you? Bro, you an airline. You don't need to round your arrival or departure.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, that's my line I've been using on Twitter, bro.

[Joe]

Okay, okay, you don't like me. Okay? You made that clear. So what, you trying to drum. You trying to summons up other people? So they don't like me either. Either. I'm like, bro, it's.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yep.

[Joe]

But if the. If some of them haters that got platforms, they'd be trying to hate on sneak.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They do. Well, how the hell I be missing it all the time?

[Joe]

Because they don't ever put. They don't. They don't never say anything about you. Oh, choice.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Even though.

[Joe]

Even though you might say something, they gonna. They. They loot me in it because they try. Because if they put me in. If they put me in the thumbnail, people gonna click. What do now, Right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay. Hey, let me know next time it happens. So I go ahead.

[Joe]

We good. We. We just let them. Let them hang in a. Them little. You know, the little 4,000 views. OKC look completely shook tonight. Spurs turned them into the 2012 Bobcats and has SGA fighting for every bucket. That's what you got to do. You got to make it tough on him.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, and it's been like that all serious.

[Joe]

It really has.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it's hard. It seemed like it's been hard for OKC to come by points. Obviously they bench warn them game four, but hell, they gonna need somebody to step up game in game five, Game three.

[Joe]

I mean, Blaze, I wonder if Shea fell for his lady. Like how often he falls in the game. He hit.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He hit the ground a lot.

[Joe]

Don't us. Yes, but he have a bodysuit on O Joe. He got pads. You know he got those pads, those thigh pads he got. Yeah, he got no Z yet, Chad. Look, he's seven foot. He looking more like LA Fitness player than an all star.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Straight up, bro. They making it tough on him. They are making it tough on him

[Joe]

because you think about it, he's not as fluid. He's 4 inches, 5 inches shorter than Wimby. He's not as fluid as Wimby.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, he not. He's not.

[Joe]

You look at women, you look at the women. How Wimby get the ball, boot crossover spin. That ain't chat.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, listen, we've been spoiled by Kevin Duress and we're spoiled by Wimy because they twitchy and they great with the ball in their hands.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe]

What players did you guys enjoy to watch most growing up? Bob Sanders and Ricky Williams were my favorite to watch. Oh, Bullet Bob.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, that was my boy. That way.

[Joe]

I love.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I love Bob Sanders.

[Joe]

Growing up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Growing up, when I was playing, my favorite to watch was Randy and to and a couple of years younger.

[Joe]

We talking about when you. He talk about 1012.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, when I was that little. Oh, hey, but that's the same time

[Joe]

they played

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

the Marx Brothers. But

[Joe]

I would like to look dupe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that. That's before I came to understand who was the standard at the position for 80 over there in San Francisco. I didn't know that yet.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, for me, it was George Jordan, Penny Hardaway, TMac, and Kobe. I. I enjoyed watching all them dudes play.

[Joe]

Oh, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What's up?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

When I think about it, everybody you just named, they on my hit list, too. So when I'm done with your ass, you tell Penny, you tell Jordan. I don't care how old he is. Leave that NASCAR alone. Come see me one on one.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, hey, hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And we can bet whatever, too. Tell him we could bet whatever.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, lead him out of this, cuz. Boy, you. Hey, you got a lot on your damn hands right now, partner, don't you? You? You don't you?

[Joe]

Hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Time out. Who got a lot on their hands?

[Joe]

You.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, God gave me two. You hear me?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Huh?

[Joe]

Both of them gonna be full. Joe said.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah, man. Listen. Hey, hey, but hey, hey, Joe is an appetizer to me, man.

[Joe]

Damn.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Appetizer. Oh, okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He's an appetizer to me, man. That's easy work.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah. You don't understand who you're dealing with, huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

How's that?

[Joe]

How is that good defense when you gave up 103 and only scored 83? Look, I mean, 100 points in the NBA ain't nothing.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, no, I mean, you look at

[Joe]

the average, they probably. The average probably like one. What? What you say, Joe? 110, 115.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. By 115. One. 115. 112, something like that.

[Joe]

But 83. Yeah, but look at the percentage in which they shot. Both teams shot under. One team shot 33. The other team was under 40%. Both teams was under 35%. From the three. One team was under 30, so. And I think. I think that because both defenses Played really well. We know both teams have outstanding defenses. We thought it was a rare that. That San Antonio with the defense that they play allowed OKC to shoot 50 the last game.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. They too good defensively, bro. When you get guys who take on that challenge, the guard, they yard and don't need a lot of help because that's what I seen tonight. It was like I got this. Hey, that was impressive tonight, bro.

[Joe]

OKC is down two 20 point scores and it's two two going back to OKC. I think they're fine. Not overreact. Okay. They're down. Let me ask you a question. Are those two 20 point scores coming back next game?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. No.

[Joe]

I don't think it's time to panic, but I don't. I don't think you are anonymous day as you think you are. What's up, fam? I tune in every night. Tomorrow is my 28th birthday. Hoping for a birthday shout out to about to be on that Laportier road all night. Hey, happy birthday, bro. Man, you had some kind of week, Memorial day weekend. Your birthday falls on Memorial day? Ah, boy, I know you've been on that thing for a minute. Oh, well, they can. They couldn't let my birthday fall on the holiday. It is a holiday too.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, it's a holiday. Ain't nothing to do, man.

[Joe]

Always something to do.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah, my baby at home.

[Joe]

Just cause your baby home, that don't mean somebody else baby at home. Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I was specifically talking about me seeing, being that I'm in Raleigh.

[Joe]

That's okay.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Ocho, who you got over there? You got Paul Meadow with you, don't you?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Paul who?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Palmetto, Paul Metal. That's all you got.

[Joe]

Hey, you got a hotel room.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey. That's a good one. I just want to explore the city. I'm sure they got some, you know, after hours I can. I can go to, you know, and see what, you know, see what they have to offer. Somebody in the chat got to be in North Carolina. Somebody.

[Joe]

It's kind of like you go to an event, what you do, you go above and beyond. You don't have to do that. That's what the sparks allow you to do is it allows you to go above and beyond what would be required of a normal performance.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe]

That's all.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And I can vouch that's what you try to do.

[Joe]

You. When you go to the thing, you put on your absolute very best, even though your absolute very best wasn't even required to do that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Chad, you gotta watch out. Laying that best pipe down in the rent houses.

[Joe]

That's, that's the problem that you run into because once you, you put that on her one time like, oh, you'll say if you leave with money, the first gift you buy her, you buy her a lv or you buy her a Chanel. Where you go from there? It's only Birkin if you start out with a Birkin.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Where you go from there?

[Joe]

Outside of broke hey hey hey hey hey hey.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What that girl told Unc to come back with come back the next time

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[Stefano Pallard]

Your pronunciation is strongly American. It's more Scuderia Ferrari.

[Malcolm Glebel]

I'm still working on rolling my R's, but what I was able to learn from Stefano was the importance of engaging the Tifosi, the Ferrari superfans in the digital age.

[Stefano Pallard]

Ferrari fans and super fans want to be part of something, want to belong to something. So they want to be part of a community, and ultimately they want to be part of a winning team.

[Malcolm Glebel]

You've got Ferrari, which has a long history, design history, and now you're interacting in a kind of digital space. I'm curious how you balance those two traditions.

[Stefano Pallard]

When it comes to fan engagement, it's really digital technology. And digital channels, are they enabled to create a deeper connection with our fans?

[Malcolm Glebel]

To learn more about how Ferrari and IBM are using technology to build deeper connections with fans, visit IBM.com ferrari

[Joe]

the other time that you came back, Leave that. Leave that one home. Yeah, yeah. Hey, just think about it. If guy had his best before you, you an athlete. You have your best performance. You ain't trying to replicate that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Got to. So whatever I did to replicate it, I'm gonna use the same routine again.

[Joe]

That's it. So.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

So, Ocho for you. So for you, Ocho, if you ate some booty the night before, you gonna do it, you gonna do it again?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hold on. Hey, hey, Joe, let me. Let me tell you something. Don't limit me. Don't limit me, boy. Head to toe. You hear me?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Head to toe, sucking, toe eating ass, boy. You got everything. Hey, Joe, you broke there.

[Joe]

See, you gotta see. They say them rich fellas, the fellas are getting a little money. They said they don't eat. They don't eat it like they call it. They eat booty. You know what I'm saying? You sophisticated.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's the French.

[Joe]

Yeah, same thing. If prescribed new health, sexual health patients get 15 off their first order of sparks on a reoccurring plan. Connect to a provider at Ro Co nightcap to find out if prescription roast sparks are right for you. I don't know if they right for you. That right won't work for me.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, yeah, On a vacay, I take extra luggage because, you know, I got three arms to be carrying luggage. You know what I'm saying? Ocho baby all have his own suitcase rolled in the airport. Hey, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe. Hey, you got. You got to try that One time, Joe, I'm telling you.

[Joe]

Try. What?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. Matter of fact, Joe, after your class, don't even let us shout, okay?

[Joe]

What? Come on, O. Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Joey. Hey, you want a little tart?

[Joe]

No, you don't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Come on, I'm telling you. You want a little tartness, too, right?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, look, let me tell y' all something. When I be running, the people outside my house, that's the first thing they talk about.

[Joe]

Nightcap.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And they say, hey, you gotta tell Ocho he gotta chill out.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm telling you, Joe. All right, listen, I'm listening. Listen. I'm saying, boy, it's nothing like it. I'm telling you. Just try. Just try the grocery thing one time. Close your eyes. Just close your eyes and hold your nose.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Ojo, I was at the dream. I was at the dream game. The referee came over to me. The referee. He said, man, hey, hey, man, I like seeing you on nightcap with Uncle Ocho, but, man, damn, Ocho, something wrong with it, man. Man, I said, yeah, something wrong with his ass here.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe. But, hey, we this close to being famous, boy. I'm telling you, we don't get.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All right, all right.

[Joe]

I ain't gonna get famous like that. Don't get famous like that. You doing too much on.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I'm with Uncle New, man.

[Joe]

That little man oo be off the chain. I let him run wild, too. I let it run snap while I mean that. Man talking about, do that girl come from working out. He. She come drop right off the plane.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You don't want to take. You don't want to taste the dove. You don't want to taste the Summer's Eve. You don't. That's nasty.

[Joe]

I don't want to taste none of it. I want to taste oxtail bacon. Hey, that's the thing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's what it tastes just like that.

[Joe]

It do.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Wait till you see the reactions you get, Joe. Just try it out the blue tonight. I'm telling you. After we get off the show and we'll talk about it tomorrow. That's your homework, boy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Listen, please.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I can't. I can't believe y', all, man. Y' all so man, y' all stuck in the 50s.

[Joe]

But, you know. But, you know, I did take some of your advice with you. I might add a few few things to. To my.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

There we go.

[Joe]

No, no, no, no, no. Apparatuses. Apparatuses.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, okay. Hey, what you. What you got. You got the butt plug?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He said, I mean, it's the best Apparatus.

[Joe]

I got no. Huh? Damn bar. You got the bar.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, he liked that one. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay. Hey, I like that.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, we getting places. We getting places.

[Joe]

Sheldon Paul says. Oh, what five wide receivers you believe need to have bounce back years? A bounce back, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Bounce back.

[Joe]

Keon Coleman.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, I mean, listen, this is. This is a dual value. Keon. Keon Coleman has to have a good year. I wouldn't say bounce back. I need Brian Thomas Jr. I need Brian Thomas Jr. To look like he. Look his rookie year. He needs bounce back here. He's very, very capable of doing so. That's two. I need Quinn Johnson to pick up where he left off last year out down there and say I need him to bounce the show. He can be a true number one. Especially after they let Ken Allen go the first time they gave him the keys to the team. I need two more. God, that's. Oh, that's a great question. Now you got my. You got my brain. My brain. My brain going. Oh, good one, Marvis and Harrison Jr. Yeah. Marvin Harrison Jr. I need you to be the number one. The. The number one pick that you are showing that the reasons why you were picked as high as you went, man, you. You was that boy. You still are that boy. I just need you to. Need you to play like it. Man. You the real deal. In five. Oh, Carolina Leggett.

[Joe]

Carolina.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes. X man. X man. Gotta pull it about you. You special, bro. You can be special.

[Joe]

Jerry Judy in there too.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, you're gonna be. You're gonna be straight this year.

[Joe]

Oh, Lord have mercy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You got some competition over there in Cleveland too. Now, you know that. That. That'll motivate you and inspire you.

[Joe]

Now, man, look at what. Look. Look at what they got me. You stuck on the island for two weeks. You got Sukiana K. Michelle, Dr. Bryant, Amber Rose.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What you doing?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The one with the prettiest feet.

[Joe]

Lord have mercy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, that's a good one, huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They all probably. They all probably dragging a wagon.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah. Oh, they duck. Trucked out.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe]

I mean, Sukiyana was pregnant, so it's kind of really hard to tell, but I'm gonna tell. Look here. I don't know if you've ever seen her in person, but she got a body. Amber Rose.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, she's.

[Joe]

She's an attractive woman. Dr. Brian is very attractive. Cable, all of them are attractive, but damn. Lord have mercy. Oh, Lord have mercy. They say the next question getting worse than this one.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You ain't. You gotta answer them.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, you try to get you try to get by that one, slick, huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. Oh, hey, Ocho, he trying to get out, man.

[Joe]

We want to know what you're gonna do.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay, all right, all right, all right. Next question.

[Joe]

Oh, why I got. Why I gotta be me? Oh, I got. Okay, okay, this is. This for Ocho. Ocho, yeah. You gotta. You gotta have sex with one marry, one kill.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, okay. Come on. Wait, let me. Let me.

[Joe]

Come on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hold on. Let me give my thing.

[Joe]

Hello, Jada. Huh? Is Jada Pinkett, right? No. Who is it? Who is it? Oh, hold on. I'm confused here. Oh, Jada Fire, Pinky and Cherokee. Cherokee. Oh. Oh, that's a good one, huh? That's a good one.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You don't.

[Joe]

I swear to God I don't.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, these. These are professional.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I used to work with them.

[Joe]

Hey, if you gave me Chiswick or you gave me, you know, Angela White, kiss of sins, or, you know, every mystique, you would have gave me somebody a little mini stallion.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I.

[Joe]

Okay, I can help you out.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Wait, who. Who is them people? I don't even know that.

[Joe]

Yeah, you gave me something like that. I don't know these people.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They must have worked in the 80s, huh?

[Joe]

Ah, hey, yeah, you gave me some of them. I'm like, okay, okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But, yeah, hey, hey. In that. In that order, Ms. Cherokee first. With all due respect, you know. You know, and with Jada Fire, I'm going Pinky, because Pink. He's a. Pinky's a legend, right?

[Joe]

Pink is what? Okay.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Alleged.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

I don't know these.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know, my. My cousin. My cousin used to take me. She used to take me on the sets. You know, my cousin Wesley. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a cousin. So, you know, I took after him and everything. That's. That's why I got most of the stuff that I do and is from being on sets, watching and how to, you know, appreciate the craft.

[Joe]

Nah, I. I honestly got. I have no idea who these people are. Hey, y' all know me. I ain't got no problem. Hold. I just named some. Clearly, I know who some are. I just don't know these.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hey. Yeah, yeah, you, you. We all know who they are. Hell, it's a billion dollar industry.

[Joe]

I mean, I. Hey, I named Sims Chechuk, Minnie Stallion, Angela White, Hell out the mystique, Queen Rose.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

These people must be active right now.

[Joe]

I don't know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

See, I. I don't know them because I. I haven't ever since I retired from that. From that field. I. I I haven't watched it in a while.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, what's up?

[Joe]

You find you somebody to do all that? How you need to do.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

I'm like, who? I'm like, I don't know. Now y' all got me wanna. I ain't gonna put that on my phone.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Go ahead, go ahead.

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. Look at. Look at. Look at my s. Look at Mrs. Cherokee. Look at Pink. Hey, Pink in her prime was like Julio Jones, a B man.

[Joe]

Yeah, okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm give it to you in football. You know football terminology. Pinky in her prime and Cherokee. Julio Jones is one and AB Is the other. That's all I'm gonna say.

[Joe]

Okay, I'm gonna leave it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'll leave it like that.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. You know, I just.

[Joe]

I just.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I didn't been there. I didn't been on set.

[Joe]

I ain't never been on set. I ain't gonna be on set either. But, you know, they got the convention. They had a convention a. The AVN convention out here, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, why you ain't tell me?

[Joe]

Damn, look at Joe Joe Googled. Look at o. Joe Joe looking out at the phone.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Nah, nah, nah. Y' all gotta chill. Y' all gotta chill. Y' all gotta chill. Y' all gotta chill. Y' all gotta chill. Y' all gotta wait. Y' all gotta chill. Y' all gotta chill. Y' all gotta chill. Now let me see what's going on.

[Joe]

But I put that on my grandma.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I had.

[Joe]

I have never heard of these ladies before in my life.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, don't worry about it. Yeah, I told you who it was.

[Joe]

But that old, old church going joy Know who every last one of them was? Hey, but he quit. Hey, boss, you want to go to church with me on Sunday? Hell, no. What was the divisional week versus Tennessee like? That's real football. Back then, T.O. should have been a top 100 all time on the top 100 all time team. I agree. To have the guys there who played before TV was invented is wild. Man Tenant. Look, it was Steelers and Tennessee because all of us was in the same division. That was the old Central Tennessee, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Jacksonville and Pittsburgh. It was five of us in that division. It was hell. Because Tennessee at the time, I don't think they had ever beaten Tennessee. So. And then they beat us the first time we played. We beat them at their place. We were the first team to beat them in their place. And it used to be, oh, the Delphi. I don't know if you play there, Ocho, you Played in the Delphi. You played there, didn't you?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You had to Del five Delphi.

[Joe]

Oh, that's what the Titans used to play.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, no. Remember, remember? No,

[Joe]

you had to hold your first.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They had grass, right?

[Joe]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The first time I played in Tennessee. I think Pac man was there. I think Pac man rookie year. Oh, gosh, I don't know. I don't know if that. I don't think that's Del found.

[Joe]

Okay. Huh.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Remember Keith Bullock and Samari Rowe were playing with the Titans?

[Joe]

I played that. Yes. That was in 2001. Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, they came to us.

[Joe]

Oh, oh, okay. But that wasn't a home. Y' all was in the same division. This should have been a home in the road game.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, no, no, no.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, they. It was division, division was still, you know, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Baltimore during that time, or at least when I got there.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Yes. But to should have been made the top 100. I got to as the top three receiver all time. He definitely should have been on the top 100 list. Another old school way is whatever truck your dad got when you were younger is the same truck you must buy as a man. My dad got a Chevy, I got a Chevy. Old Mississippi Wade. Yep. My grandfather had a custom deluxe. It was black body, white top, and had a. A burgundy interior interior. I. I ain't want no truck. Ain't want no pickup truck. We had a pickup truck when I was in high school. Me and my brother bought a pickup truck together. Custom to look brown. Two Tone, you know, bench. You know, had the bench.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

You know, we sneak a peek in the pecan orchard. You know, If the Thunder loses. How do you feel about Zach Edie replacing Chet?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No. Hell no.

[Joe]

And he's even slower, man. Women every 50 on him, going around him.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

At least check a little bit.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Absolutely right.

[Joe]

Hey, fellas, did you ever match up with time and what were your numbers? Ocho, who you got winning the World Cup? ISO. After seeing Beasley last fight, would you do an MMA match with Ocho? No, I ain't never matched up with time. We played. I'm trying to think we played time. I only played against. No, I played against time in 94 when he was at the 49ers. I played against time in 98. Hold on. Did I play this? Played against him in 95? 98. And I played against him when he was in Washington. I might have played against time and he was in. No, he was in Washington. He was in Washington when we played. So I played against Time, four times, but we never matched up. Oh, he's not winning the World Cup.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, man, that's a good one. I think. I think France might pull it off this year.

[Joe]

You go in France, you going Mbappe, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, they might put up. Hey, man, them boys lower the Joe from top to bottom. Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

At every position, ain't no weakness. Obviously, every. Every team has great players, but I'm talking about the strength at each position is. Is. Is really, really, really the cream of the crop.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, Especially defensive. That got their back line, midfield attackers. I mean, it's. It's crazy. Now, you look at some of the other teams in Argentina and Portugal and, you know, Colombia, it's great players at specific positions, but across the board, man. Man, France is loaded at every spot.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, you that last question. Yes, I'll whoop his ass in some mma. Your ass. I will whoop your ass.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Listen, listen, Wait a minute. Wait. I'm glad you said that, because we can get in the ring and do it. Do it. Lance Stevenson and Michael Beasley just did what?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, I will whoop your ass. I'm telling you that now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Please, somebody set it up, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. Go, go. Hey, hey, hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Can I bet that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Can I bet that I beat him in the first round?

[Joe]

Yeah, you could bet on. You can bet on yourself.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, hold on. Can I, Can I, Can I bet? I'll put you in a guillotine and make you tap out.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, let's bet.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Joe, I will break your arm, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, I promise you. Oh, that won't last 30, 40 seconds. I'm gonna keep around a little longer, so. So, you know, Chad and the people can, you know, have a good little show, but I'm whooping his ass.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, the fact that Joe continue to forget I have a combat. I have a background in combat sports.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't care nothing about that. I don't care nothing about that damn background comeback sport.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, okay, you know what? From this point on, Joe, I'm gonna fuck you up. On site.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, on site. Okay.

[Joe]

On site.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I can't wait.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

On site. Like, don't even. Don't even talk.

[Joe]

Right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Don't say nothing.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Absolutely.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The first thing coming is the punch.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Understood? Understood.

[Joe]

Nye Cal. What up, though? I'm from Detroit. What will it take for my Pistons and Lions to both bring the city championship tips? What moves need to be made, and y' all got everything?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You need some. Hey, you need. You need some. You need some more scoring with the Pistons, bro.

[Joe]

You.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You gotta. You gotta get some more offensive weapons and that I think that should be able to get you over the top because defensively they're a great defensive team. But you gotta be able to put up points, man.

[Joe]

I think, I think what you call them, I think Detroit had a great chance. They had a 20 something point lead on San Francisco Joe Ocho. You remember they was out in San Francisco and they had that big old lead and they squandered in San Francisco, cutting all the way back and ended up going to the Super Bowl. Y' all got it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Staying healthy. That's the number one thing for the Lions to stay healthy. That completes this episode of Nightcap. We have A tied series. OKC is going back going back home. Tied 2 2. Wimby was sensational tonight and they dominate OKC to tie the series up and they head back home. We want to thank each and every one of you guys for joining us tonight. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite up. That is my partner and co host. That's Liberty City's own a former pro bowler and an all pro from the Cincinnati Bengals. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson and the third member of the Big three, a seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks, Little Rock, Arkansas native. That is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support. Thank you for tuning in and staying locked in. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier just head to laportiercognac.com to grab you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. Premium VSOP Cognac that drinks like an exo and we have it in two sizes. The OG which is the 750 and the Junior the 375. Same great quality, same great taste, same smoothness. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. We've been nominated for the hashtag sports award in four categories. Best brand partnership with for Nightcap, Outside and Row. Best podcast, Best athletes podcast, Best use of live video. That link is pinned in our chat. Make sure you go check it out. Vote for the voting in tomorrow. So vote as many times you like and help break night. Help break. Help Nightcap. Bring those that hardware home. Spurs even the series. Thank the victor. 33 points in 31 minutes, 8 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 blocks, 32 steals and 3 made three pointers he joins Kevin Durant and LeBron James as the only players in NBA history to reach those numbers in a playoff game. Pretty, pretty elite company. Again, thank you guys for joining us. Let's see if the Cavs can stave off elimination or the New York Knicks going to the NBA Finals. We'll bring you up to date tomorrow. Thank you guys for joining us. I'm up. He's Ocho, he's ISO. We're back tomorrow. Peace.

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[Joe]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Joe]

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[Joe]

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[Joe]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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