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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now streaming on Paramount, the acclaimed series from executive producer Lena Waithe reaches its final chapter. The shy for seven seasons, these stories, these streets, this community have stayed with us. Now it all leads to this. As friendships are tested, families evolve, and secrets refuse to stay buried, one thing is certain. The chi is more than just a series. It's a legacy. Don't miss the final season of the Shy now streaming on the Paramount plus premium plan. Wimby just added. I just threw that one away. I messed up. We didn't play great as a team. We needed to win that game. This game was ours. But at this point, it's done and I'm going to get, I'm going to regret it. Yes, of course I'm going to get used. I'm going to use that to fuel me and fuel us next game. Absolutely. I could have been better at recovering from that high, from the high being in the conference finals. So basically he said, look, do you reform? You know I, and you know, everybody said that, yo, yes, we understand you should be excited, but you still got four more games to win. And basically he said, I'm still, I'm so high off of that that I've allowed it to, to inhibit the way I play in the finals. Yeah, and that's why you can't, you can't get too high. But you know, the man, 22, he just led a team to the NBA finals. There ain't very many 22 year olds. Irvin Magic Johnson, he was 20 in about 100 and something days leading the team to the finals. LeBron James did it at 22.
ISO Joe Johnson
Kobe was 20, I think, I think Kobe was 22 when he won his first title. Yeah, but you can't exhale.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, not Wimby. Yeah, so it, it's not. I mean, you think about a guy's 22, it doesn't been very many guys and he don't understand, hey, Magic, tell the story all the time, but he told it to us his very first game. Pass Kareem, Kareem, throw the sky hook. When a game winning shot hit a game winning sky hook. Magic, run down there and jump. Hugging right his neck like, hey, Kareem. Yeah, Kareem. Kareem. Like how you.
ISO Joe Johnson
He said, get your ass out.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Get off me. We got 81 more games. I tell you what, you hit 81 more of those, I would jump right in your damn bombs. It is, bro.
ISO Joe Johnson
Man, it's such a gratifying feeling because you know when you see these game winners, these game winners and things of sort in the NBA, bro, you dreamed of these moments as a kid, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
ISO Joe Johnson
You can't tell me. Hell, I know y' all played football at the highest level, but hell, I know at some point y' all probably was in your driveway shooting shots. Five, four, three. You know what I mean?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He was catching the game winning touchdown. I don't Know how many games when you touchdown Oto you call, but I don't caught a couple of game winners. Ain't nothing like it.
Joe (Co-host)
Yeah. I've never caught a touchdown that was a game winner. Like at like going down and it's only a few seconds on the clock and you can't of courting passes that result in actually winning the game.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yes, right, right, right, right.
Joe (Co-host)
Do anything.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Joe (Co-host)
Never a game winner like that on. I ain't never had that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, and that's. And that's, that's.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, I've.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I've caught one. I think I've caught one in Jack. Well, I caught two game winners in Jacksonville, that game that Jimmy Smith went off Ocho. I caught the game winning touchdown and I caught.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yep.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And then I went down there. My last year, I caught a game winning touchdown. I think I caught with like 10 seconds on the clock. We had to lead the whole game. Them jokers score a touchdown, we go right back down the field. They come with a blitz, they come with a bomb blitz, but they leave the the end to cover me. Oh, do I stutter. He paused.
Joe (Co-host)
That was a rap. Once he freezes over, it's over.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Cause he. He can't start. He can't start and stop like I can and. But yeah, Joe, man, you know many mother be that a hit on my brother. Hey, even if I didn't hit a buzzer beater, I would throw it up and run in the house. I won. I won. My grandma be looking out the window to go out there. Hey. Because I would say I won and take the ball and throw it in the hog pin. My grandma be looking at. Take your ass back out there and get that ball. Hey, hey.
ISO Joe Johnson
Your brother be ready to kick your butt.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He get so mad. Joe. Cuz you know, hey, Joe, you. Hey, I'm a sore loser, but I'm an insufferable winner, man. I beat that big joker, that joker three years older than me and I beat him, y'. All. He can't beat me.
ISO Joe Johnson
I already know. I already know.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Granny. Granted, that boy threw the ball in the hog pin. Grant. That boy put the football in the wood. I said, boy, took your words up there, get that ball. You know, my grandma start talking like a ventriloquist, like she'd be talking through her teeth
Joe (Co-host)
and you can understand every
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
word, everything she say, everything. But Joe, how you know that, Joe, how you know my brother would get bad? Joe?
ISO Joe Johnson
Cuz any. I ain't had no brother. I ain't had no. I ain't had no brothers to play against, obviously. I had my, you know, my best friends, and we all was together, but it. It's virtually the same thing. Boy, uncle, somebody beat me. Boy. They throw. They throw a parade, they throw a party. Running of the bulls. It was all.
Joe (Co-host)
I tell you. I'll tell you one thing. You gonna see what it's like when we play, huh?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
ISO Joe Johnson
Slow down, Turbo.
Joe (Co-host)
It's gonna be a party and you ain't gonna hit the end of it.
ISO Joe Johnson
Slow down, Turbo.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Slow. By the time you get out, Joe, I got me a cold glass of water I'm sitting on. Hey, hey, hey.
ISO Joe Johnson
He can't stand and look at your
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
ass for the rest of the day.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, my grandma say, take your ass
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
right on back out there. You sweating all on this couch. Get on back out of the porch.
ISO Joe Johnson
I already know it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, guess what? He coached. Hey, you want to go play again? Yep. Yeah?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, you like?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nah, nah, nah, nah. Go back out there and play again. I could never have the last win. I let him coach me back out there and I lose. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Mitch Johnson. Oh, why it's so difficult for women to get involved offensively in the first half? I have to make sure that there's environments that the ball finds him. I think he's got to make sure that he can rely on and get shots as well. But yeah, four shots in the first half on this stage is not acceptable. He's got to do a better job, Joe. He's got to give him a better job of giving them a target. You, bro, you can't go, man them half ass switches that you doing. You trying to push the ball. You trying to push the guy or you trying to touch the guy to make him try to think you're gonna set a side screen over here and. And then you put. Bro, stop.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, he's.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He's settling, Mitch. I think m. Look, maybe there's some things he can do better, but I think Wimby is settling, too. Wimy is still hovering around the damn three point line far too much. And like you said, Joe, because he. It takes him so hard. You see, Mitchell Robinson got a foul. Mitchell Robinson was shoved before the ball even came in.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, absolutely. So look, by the time you catch it, if we already wrestling, by the time you catch it, hell, you gonna be dead dog tired. Hey, man, before you even catch the ball, Uncle Ocho, I'm talking about, boy, you gonna have to work so hard to catch it. So when you do catch it, you ain't gonna want to do nothing but settle for that jump shot. And that's, that's basically what's been happening.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Mitch on the final play just put Fox and Victor in the pick and roll. Fox made a good pass to him. He caught it with some space, took a good shot. Nah. Hey, get on downhill. Get on downhill, Fox, man, get on down.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, look, I, I, I'll be honest with you. That last shot I probably could live with. But the shot before that, when he caught on the wing and he just sized him up and then took a 17.
Joe (Co-host)
8.
ISO Joe Johnson
You can't, you, you, you can't do that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The guard was going crazy on the final play. Let's take a look at this guys garden.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, man, That mug is packed. Look at him.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I bet the get in price now might be 9,000.
ISO Joe Johnson
It was like six. Yeah, it had jumped up from like three to like seven. Oh, for sure. Just to get in.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
Joe (Co-host)
You know, you know, we need to go experience what it's gonna be like, man. One of them.
ISO Joe Johnson
No, I don't go experience game three
Joe (Co-host)
or four, because, you know, it ain't.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't been to an NBA finals game. I've been to two of them.
Joe (Co-host)
We ain't been in this one.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's okay.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm cool. Hey, hold on. Hold up, hold up. But while y' all playing, I went to the, the Cosmo, had their grand opening tonight.
Joe (Co-host)
Yeah, how was it?
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, man, Ocho, you've been to the Cosmo to watch the, Watch the game. Oh, you, you know they had the grand opening of the Cosmo tonight at the Centennial Yard. No, I, man, I went through that. I left, I left midway through the third quarter. Oh, my God, that thing so serious in there, bro.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's a sports bar, you know, it's
ISO Joe Johnson
got the big panoramic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't even explain it, but I'm talking about, it's, it's state of the art with it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Crowded. What? It was.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, it was crowded. It was like, it was like, it was like invite only.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It was, it was. Okay, okay.
Joe (Co-host)
What's the name of Joe?
ISO Joe Johnson
The Cosmo. They got one in Dallas, they got
Joe (Co-host)
one in Vegas, and now they got one in Atlanta.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, now they got one in Atlanta. Oh, let's see what area is in. It's in this, in like Centennial Yard. So this is like downtown tour. Like downtown. Like they, they came up and told me, man, if y' all want to do a live show from the Cosmo or something like that, you know, they. They love to have nightcap in there.
Joe (Co-host)
Okay, okay.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm just, I'm just. I'm just relaying the message.
Joe (Co-host)
Cosmo. Hey, I'll let your boy, huh?
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, man, I'm talking about. Hey, hey, hey. I'm talking about the ambiance, right? You hear me? Oh, man.
Joe (Co-host)
Hey, Joe, while using that, you use your peripheral vision. What is looking like in there?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, they, they, you know, they was.
Joe (Co-host)
Okay, okay. Okay.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, they were in there. They was in there. They was in there. That were. Ah, yeah, yeah. I already know what you do.
Joe (Co-host)
Yeah, yeah. Hey, baby. Hey, we going to the Cosmo in the eight. Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, hey.
ISO Joe Johnson
I ain't gonna lie to y'.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm going back Monday, watch game three. I ain't gonna lie to you, boy.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Like that, man.
ISO Joe Johnson
It was like that. It was like that. I don't know how much longer you gonna be here, but it was like that.
Joe (Co-host)
I might come on down. Hey, babe, where I'm at Monday?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm in Denver.
Joe (Co-host)
Are you in Denver Monday?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yep.
Joe (Co-host)
Where I'm at this Monday?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Indiana.
Joe (Co-host)
Damn. I mean, huh. Hey, Joe. I'm gonna meet you out there, Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
I ain't gonna hold my breath.
Joe (Co-host)
You gotta hold your breath. Work.
ISO Joe Johnson
I want you to.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You coming? New York is outside. They took a 20 lead tonight. Let's take a look at what New York is like. Sa. The cheapest ticket for game three is $11,461. The cheapest tickets for game four is 1365. $13,065. So to attend one person. To attend both games is going to cost you almost 25k.
Joe (Co-host)
Don't worry about it. It's still gonna. It's gonna be. Still gonna be sold out.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah, for sure. The Knicks haven't hosted the NBA Finals games in over 25 years. 10 racks for nosebleed, Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
Damn.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What's the most you willing to pay for. For the Hogs make the finals, Joe? What's the most you're willing to pay
ISO Joe Johnson
if the Hawks made the finals? Yeah, I'll pay that. Yeah, yeah, I pay that. I pay 10.
Joe (Co-host)
What's the most you willing to pay?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's to get in, Joe. Because you know, Joe, you can't sit up there with them now. You have to be down there real close, Joe. So that. That gonna set you back. That gonna sit. That gonna sit you in the Mrs. Back. Probably about. Probably about 30, 40k a piece a piece of. If one ticket in those bleed is 13,000, how much you think? Flow c Said the whole game gonna cost, Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, I'm probably. Gonna. Probably have to hit that one by myself,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Baby. Hey, hey, hey.
ISO Joe Johnson
Baby, baby, baby understands. She understands. She know I'm die hard basketball fan
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
and she ain't gonna enjoy that much anyway. Her joke.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She know I would be really into it, right? You know? Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What.
ISO Joe Johnson
What's. What's the money? Hey, hey. Well, hell, if that was the Lakers in the finals, you know, it'd be way more than that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, what? It'll be. It'll be. It'll be pretty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
For a flow seat, that thing be damn near six figures.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The finals. Oh, yeah. Easy, easy.
Joe (Co-host)
Hey, Joe, what's today? Today is today Friday, right? Yes, Saturday, Sunday.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Next game is Monday.
Joe (Co-host)
So that's the eighth. Now let me go. Let me go to Michelle.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And the following game is Wednesday the 10th.
Joe (Co-host)
Hey, Joe, what's that? Matter of fact, you know what? I'm all but like, matter of fact here, let me. So you know I'm serious on my mama. Rest in peace. I'm gonna see you at Cosmos on Monday. I'm looking at my schedule. I'm. I'm here in. I'm in Chicago right now, and I'm here. I leave the morning of the 7th. But what. Do you know what I should do? I'm gonna just leave Chicago and come to Atlanta, maybe. Can I do that? Yeah, I'm just. I'll leave Chicago on the 7th, the morning, the 7th, and I'mma come to. I'm g. Come to Atlanta and I'mma go. I'm g. Go with you to the Cosmos on Monday and watch the game and then I'm. I'mma just fly to Miami the next morning.
ISO Joe Johnson
Supposed to do with that.
Joe (Co-host)
Why? Just.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, hey, do what you do what you want to do with it, Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
I got. I got. I got. I gotta. I'm trying to see what un. Think I. You know.
Joe (Co-host)
Hey, what did you not just say? I had to put it on my mama. You know, I don't play with hurricane like that, okay? I'm talking to you and I'm looking at my schedule.
ISO Joe Johnson
Okay? Yeah, all right, all right. That thing jumping.
Joe (Co-host)
So I gotta go from. From Atlanta to Indy. Yeah, I gotta go from Atlanta to Indy. So yeah, I'd be there. I gotta do something with nascar. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Our ticket prices at the Olympics, NBA Finals, FIFA World cup, slowly killing the passion and culture that made these events special in the first place. Oh, they.
ISO Joe Johnson
They pricing people out they trying.
Joe (Co-host)
They trying, Joe. They trying because you gotta understand, all
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
the die hard fans, they don't wait the Knicks fans, they don't waited 20 years for this. These people gonna go in debt to go see this game.
ISO Joe Johnson
They don't give a damn though.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They don't give a damn one thing about it too.
Joe (Co-host)
Especially when it comes to the World Cup, Joe. And your country is playing then people, they gonna get that money together. Come watch.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, what, what's, what's, what's the cities. I know. Atlanta, New York.
Joe (Co-host)
Atlanta, New York, L.A. kansas City, L.A. kansas City. I think Vegas, Philly, I think if I'm not, I think Philly is a whole city.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think it's about eight cities though.
Joe (Co-host)
Mexico, it's 11, 11, 11 Mexico. I think Canada, if I'm not mistaken too. Somewhere in Canada.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, how much is to get in the game, huh?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
For a World Cup? I don't even know. I, I, I mean, look, I, I, I couldn't, I couldn't come off any sum of money to see a World Cup. I, I, I don't, I don't love it enough like that. I ain't passionate enough about it like that. Something that I'm passionate about, sure, no problem. But the World cup, right?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe (Co-host)
Joe. I'm spending, Whatever, Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
You whatever, whatever.
Joe (Co-host)
I'm going, I'm going to mustache Joe from now all the way to June 20th. I already got my, I got, got my tickets for the final already in New York. I'm not playing, Joe.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, you go ahead. The 20, 26 FIFA World cup matches are spread across 16 host cities. Canada, Mexico and the United States. Canada is Toronto and Vancouver, Mexico. Guadalajara, Mexico City, Monterey, Atlanta. So the United States, you have Atlanta, Boston, Dallas, Houston, Kansas City, Los Angeles, Miami, New York, Philly, San Francisco, Seattle. Damn.
ISO Joe Johnson
Let's go catch one in Houston.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
There you go. This man here. So basically these games, all of them are at football stadiums. Ocho and Joe.
Joe (Co-host)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but listen, they didn't, they didn't gut it, they didn't gutted them stadiums out, huh? Oh yeah, they didn't put it, they didn't put in that Bermuda grass.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yep, yeah.
Joe (Co-host)
Immaculate. Boy, the only, the only, the only team who I've heard who's had problems with the conditions based on what they're used to, where they're coming from in Japan, because Japan is training in Mexico and they, they are upset, they're upset about the conditions, they're upset about the fields and, and it's not up to par to their liking. And preparing for the World Cup.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So atlanta, boston, dallas, houston, kansas city, los angeles, miami, new york, new york, new jersey, metlife, lincoln field, santa clara, levi stadium, and lumen field in seattle. So those are. And the finals will be held in at metlife. According to Sean's Victor Wimbanyama is expected to hit the sneaker free agency market in October. Joe, they usually say big men don't sell sneakers. Will Wimby change that narrative?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, he gonna change the narrative. He global. He's global. Like, they gonna. Yeah, he's gonna change the narrative, and somebody gonna throw him a 3,400M's so
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
he gonna get one of my Steph Curry. Steph got 10 years of 400 million from Lee Ning. Hey, yeah.
Joe (Co-host)
I mean, who. Who gonna be able to pay that outside of Nike?
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, I don't know, Ocho. It's gonna be. It's gonna be. It's some shoe brands out there. They probably. They. Hey, they probably gathering up their coins right now ready to present that man with something that's gonna be overwhelming. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Joe (Co-host)
And probably Puma. Maybe New battles.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. After, when we come up for his next contract, he'll be a billionaire with the. With the shoe deal he get. And his next contract, he'll be a billion.
Joe (Co-host)
Hey, before he. Before he hit 26. Huh?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah, no doubt. No question.
Joe (Co-host)
Hey, we gonna be rich, too. Hey, we gonna be rich Earth Teddy way till we be famous,
ISO Joe Johnson
man.
Joe (Co-host)
We ain't gonna be able to go nowhere, huh?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, go anywhere like where?
Joe (Co-host)
We are not going to be. Be able to go nowhere. We're gonna have to live that life like LeBron and Leonardo DiCaprio. We're gonna have.
ISO Joe Johnson
No, I. I still like going to grocery stores.
Joe (Co-host)
You got to do that and just deal with your fans then, Joe, you do what you want to do. I just. I make sure you have security 24 7.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Who gonna have security 24 7?
Joe (Co-host)
You're gonna have to have it. Huh?
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm saying. I'm saying I ain't gonna be able to take my kids to Disney World.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You ain't gonna be able to go for nowhere. You'll be. You. Hey, you pay for ticket to go the halls, go to the finals at the World Cup. Hey, you like Bob, we might be eating sardines and tuna fish for the next. For the next six months.
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I turned off news altogether.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait.
Narrator/Announcer
It feels like it's trying to divide people.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We got clear facts. Maybe we can calm down a little.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
This next segment is brought to you by Tommy John where comfort is the new power move. Austin Reeves is pulling a power move. Reeves is reportedly seeking a max contract of about 240 million from the Lakers. If he signs with another team, the most he could receive is four years. 178. Joe, do the Lakers even have a choice? I don't.
ISO Joe Johnson
I. I honestly. I don't think they have a choice because Luca has vouched for him, saying that he wants AR back, he don't want another superstar outside of ar. So I think with that being said, hell, you want to keep Luca happy, don't you? Yeah. So I, I think, I think, I think they gonna bring him back, but I also think bringing him back, I
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
think they're not winning a championship with that backcourt. No, they not.
ISO Joe Johnson
And I almost think LeBron is definitely going to be gone if you give. If you give AR their contract.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ain't no way. Ain't no way.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. For two.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ain't no way. I mean, you're going to have. You're going to have basically over 400 million tied up in the backcourt. They can't defend.
Joe (Co-host)
I was even ready to say that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So unless you got them playing with three perimeter, outstanding defenders, right, they're not going nowhere.
ISO Joe Johnson
It's gonna be. It's gonna be tough. Plus, you ain't gonna have no big. For real. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's gonna be hard for you to feel the roster out, but it's hard to tell a guy that, who was undrafted, who came into this league, worked his ass off and worked his damn way up to this. It's. It's hard to tell him it's good. Look, you can tell a man, hey, look, we just want you to take 200. Not. Not 250. Hell, ain't that last year 50 something? Definitely.
Joe (Co-host)
I need, I need that. He's. Hey, Joe and uncle. He's earned that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
He ain't giving no discount.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Cause, you know, he came in the first two years, he made like two and a half million, and then he took a deal. I think he made like 43 million over three years. Over four years.
Joe (Co-host)
It's.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's.
ISO Joe Johnson
He got better and better.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, you know, 40, 53 million over four years. He just. I just don't see how. I just don't see him taking anything less than the max value. He's like everybody else get max value
Joe (Co-host)
and there's no reason he should.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, but that Damn. That damn LA, TX gonna text his ass.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You see what they did, what them taxes did to Miles Garrett, man, now. Oh, that 13. That 13. State tax. 37. Basically 37 point, 36.3%. So you take. Basically, you live in LA. That's 50 of your money. Then you got agencies, then you got other state fees that you play. You got to pay, you know, percentage of what you make in that state.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, and you got.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you got Medicaid, fica. F. I was like, man, FICA need to get a job.
Joe (Co-host)
That's crazy.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now they gonna talk about Medicaid, might not be available, man, I might stop working tomorrow. Get. Draw me some Medicaid.
ISO Joe Johnson
All that money I don't put in
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
there, hey, I need to get at that.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, that's crazy. That's a lot of money.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hell yeah. And so in taxes, I mean, 240. So basically 241, that's 120 before your agent get his. And FICA, Medicare, all that other stuff. Lord have mercy.
ISO Joe Johnson
Uncle Sam got to get his.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't think people would mind giving Uncle Sam his money if they didn't just waste it. If we saw where the money was going, like, okay, this is what we doing, you know, hey, you know, we doing something that people underserved, they get health care or we see the infrastructure they building, stuff, you know, stuff that's going to make society better. If we could see something like that. Oh, I ain't got no problem paying them. Hey, I'm fortunate enough. Hey, God bless me. Put me in a situation. Okay, fine.
ISO Joe Johnson
But, man, they take half, though. Come on, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah. I'm not saying, look, I'll. I'll pay my fair share. I don't know if half is fair. I don't got no problem paying my fair share. I'm just saying I don't think. I don't think half of it is fair.
ISO Joe Johnson
Damn.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So it's. It's tough, but I. I just don't see how Austin Reed says, nah, I'm good. Okay, I see that. I see. You know what I take? I'll take five year because it's gonna be four plus a player option on that fifth year. So.
ISO Joe Johnson
Ain't taking no discount.
Joe (Co-host)
Absolutely not.
ISO Joe Johnson
Ain't taking no discount, bro.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Can you. Is it possible to sign and trade
ISO Joe Johnson
for who. You gonna piss your stop, player.
Joe (Co-host)
I don't want to do that. You definitely won't do that.
ISO Joe Johnson
But I mean, hey, hey, hey. You running the business too now.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I agree. I just. I just. I mean, the Lakers are in this position.
ISO Joe Johnson
It's gonna be hard, man, because, hey, it don't matter how you look at it. Thunder's still gonna be great. San Antonio's still gonna be great. Houston still gonna be great. They're Gonna be a great team. Denver still. You ain't winning a damn championship.
Joe (Co-host)
No.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yep. You know, you mentioned. He said Denver, the Thunder, Spurs, Minnesota.
ISO Joe Johnson
You don't. You don't. You don't know what Portland gonna look like when Dame come back.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They would. They.
ISO Joe Johnson
They got into the postseason. You don't. You know what I'm saying? They could climb the chart. You never know from season to season, bro. It ain't no giving that the Lakers gonna be a three seed or four seed again. That's not a given.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What you doing?
ISO Joe Johnson
You bringing domination back. Domination coming back, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The. The big abomination. Absolutely not. What you. No, sir. What.
Joe (Co-host)
You.
ISO Joe Johnson
What you gonna have? You. You ain't gonna have nothing then. You got to bring. You got to get.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ain't got nothing now. Ain't got nothing now.
ISO Joe Johnson
You get. Hey, you in that wild, wild West. You gotta have some down there. Hey, he may not be what you want, but, hey, you're gonna have to. You're gonna have you. Yeah. You got to keep him around. What you gonna do?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Maybe they should trade. I don't. I don't know who they can. I'm trying to think where. I mean, because, hey, look, he's earned his money. Yeah, but I just.
ISO Joe Johnson
Where.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Where can they go if they need a guy? I just don't know. I just don't know. And. And then what do you want? What do you. What do you want in return for Officer Reeves? Where can you put him? Joe?
ISO Joe Johnson
I've been seeing that. That Detroit situation.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Him and Cade.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, him and K. But you. Detroit gonna have to give up big fella. Down big, big boy. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Dang enough. Dang enough. They need.
ISO Joe Johnson
They need.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, plus, what you gonna do with Rui? What you gonna do with Marcus? Smart.
ISO Joe Johnson
I ain't gonna lie. Them two dudes, I feel like you
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
gotta bring them back, but I don't know if you can bring back Roy. Somebody gonna pay Roy because he played well in the postseason.
Joe (Co-host)
Very well.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Knock down shots.
ISO Joe Johnson
When you say they gonna pay him, what they gonna give him? About a 120, 130 ball.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think he gonna probably. He gonna be looking to get somewhere, like, probably 18 to 22 million a year.
ISO Joe Johnson
He gonna get it, too. Gonna have to spend some money this summer.
Joe (Co-host)
That money they spend, obviously, you got to get reads. You're not. You're not.
ISO Joe Johnson
It's just so hard for me to see them letting LeBron walk, too, for whatever reason, that's. That's hard to see. I know.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's possible that's not what they want to do, Joe. But they can't pay that man 50 million. They ain't finna pay him 50 ar. 40, Luca. 40. 40. Plus, they not. They not playing that.
ISO Joe Johnson
And.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And then what you go to. Then if you pay LeBron his that money, what you call him, definitely not going. I mean, you definitely not signing RUY back. You're not bringing Marcus Mark back. Because if I'm those guys, I'm not giving you no discount.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, I don't know, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Because the problem that you have is that once you give somebody a discount, what do they expect? All those years that Tom Brady gave New England a discount, in the end, what did they expect again? Ocho discount discount. I had given y' all the discount for 15 years. Now I say, you know what? I'm about to go out. I want my true value now. You know what? Tom not gonna be able to do that. We're just gonna let you go.
Joe (Co-host)
Hey, that's why you don't take no discounts. Now, he took discounts for the betterment of the team long term, so he understood what he's doing. Without those discounts, I don't think they win all those Super Bowls.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, absolutely not. But at the end of the day, what did. What did it get him? Yeah, he got him seven Super Bowls. But the team that he won those Super Bowls for, when he wanted something from them, they're like, no, we.
Joe (Co-host)
No, sir. The nature of the business. Get it while you.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But that's the problem. It's only a business for them. They expect you to have some sort of loyalty. Fans expect you to have loyalty for the team. When the team, in the end, even the greatest players.
Joe (Co-host)
Oh, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Joe Montana, did he finish his career in San Francisco?
Joe (Co-host)
Nope.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Jerry Rice, did he finish his career in San Francisco? Tom Brady, did he finish his career? Emmett Smith, Jerry Rice. That's five of the greatest players that's ever played, and none of them finished this. Finished their career where they started.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, it's tough. They gonna move on for sure. And the game gonna. And the game gonna keep on.
Joe (Co-host)
It hasn't stopped yet.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But they make it seem like you said, well, we try to get something done, and we, you know, we got to do what's in the best interest of the team. I got to do what's in the best interest of my team. My wife, kids. Hello, grand mom, grandma. I'm a team, too.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hello.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hello. I don't know what you want me to tell you, but it's gonna be interesting. I can't wait to see after because this thing coming up real quick. Yeah, once these finals July 1st, you know, you start seeing some moving and shaking. Joe. July 1st, Baker Mayfield said that the contract talks between him and the Bucks are not going are not anywhere close and it's time to get something done. Long term. Obviously, yes, I would love to have a long term deal done, but they know my deadline as soon as training camp starts. We're not doing any contract stuff. It's all ball and it's not up to me when it's when that gets done. So excuse me. So hopefully before that, if not still going to have a good year, we'd love to be here long term. As of right now, that's not exactly the case, but I'm under contract for 2026. Baker is currently in the final year of a three year, $100 million deal. Baker average 33.33 million per season. 16th in the league in terms of quarterback play. O. Yes. You wait till next year to pay him or you get something done now.
Joe (Co-host)
I mean, obviously you want to make your quarterback happy. He's just starting quarterback. He's probably going to be the quarterback of your future until you answer the questions on who's going to be his successor. Right now, I think they will get a deal done. Obviously he has a deadline that's set now that can be a little tricky. He him setting the deadline is not going to make them move any faster. I can make any faster the way this business works. So if they can get a deal done, you know, when his deadline gets there. If they can't, they'll make sure they take care of him next year. Because there is no other answer for Baker Mayfield. There's no one else that they're going to be able to come in and replace him with right now that's going to be able to do some of the things that he's done for that franchise at the quarterback position.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The problem that you have, Ocho, you see what happened with Mike Evans. Mike Evans, like I wanted a contract done, y' all didn't want to do it. And he took less money to go to San Francisco. Not only you take less money, the tax bracket out there, because at least in Tampa there ain't no taxes in the state of Florida, right? No state income tax.
Joe (Co-host)
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So, and, and unless you got something lined up, well, you got a quarterback on your roster, then you can probably do that. But without a quarterback lining up, unless there's some quarterbacks that you think in the draft that you're going to be in position to get. If you think if you're going to be the type of team that you believe you're going to be, you're probably not going to be in position to get those quarterbacks. Joe oh, you're not.
Joe (Co-host)
You're not. And they definitely, they. I mean, obviously, if you look, you look at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, they're one of those teams that are built and are that can play and be in contention for Lombardi. And you need your court, you need your quarterback, because one of the reasons why they are playing as well as they are is because of the quarterback situation. And when they look without Mike Evans, too, Ibuka look really good. They passed the keys to him.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Chris Godwin look good.
Joe (Co-host)
There's a reason why they let Mike Evans walk. As great as he's been. I call him Mr. Consistency.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, so y' all don't think they'll make Baker Mayfield weight, considering the fact that obviously this is his contract year? Maybe they'll get the best. They'll get the best version.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The best version Gonna cost you 60 million next year.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, well, I mean, hell, that's the gamble you're gonna have to take.
Joe (Co-host)
Hey, either way, they're gonna have. They might. They're gonna have to do something. It'd be a little cheaper.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Remember, that's what they did with Dak. They roll the dice.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe (Co-host)
And that wasn't taking. No. He didn't give you. No. No discount.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nope. After being hit with the franchise tag by the Atlanta Falcon.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Kyle Pitts claimed that it's a sign the new staff trusts him. I took the positive in it and taking a chance and basically kind of like my fifth year option. But it's the sixth year option and it's a blessing to be able to get that this year. Them not to say, well you can go test the market or whatever. They just, they just trust you that they see something that is pretty cool to see. It's a new year and I'm not worried about it. Pitts is coming off A very productive season. He was second in far as. As far as reception with 88. Second in receiving yards to go along with five touchdown. Oh, when the franchise tag, does that mean sign of trust?
Joe (Co-host)
Yeah. No, they don't trust you. They franchise. They franchise tagging you for a reason. The friends, it's to their advantage, not yours. You want the nest, huh, Joe? I want that guaranteed money just in case something happened to me. You already got you trust you.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They gave you the grantee money. Oh, Joe trusted again. Your new contract.
Joe (Co-host)
Exactly.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Trust is what they gave Michael Parsons. Trust is what they gave Miles Garrett. Trust is what they gave tjy. Trust is what they gave cd. That's trust. That's trust.
Joe (Co-host)
Not. Not franchise tagging me. You telling me. You know what? You're good, but we don't value as much as you think we do long. Yeah, we don't want to put that investment in you.
ISO Joe Johnson
That's all.
Joe (Co-host)
I mean. Now, sometimes the franchise tag is a good thing because it allows teams ownership in GMs. They give them a little bit more time to get a deal done. So we're going to tag you in hopes of getting a deal done right after the deadline, whatever the deadline might be.
ISO Joe Johnson
I think.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think July 15th is the deadline, Ocho, if I'm not mistaken. And yeah, if you telling me. Okay, hey, the franchise tag, it gives us a little bit because it's in March, so April, May, June, July. Gives us four months to try to get something done long term. If you're telling me there's no chance that there. There's a deal that can be had in 2026 and the next. The earliest that the deal can be had is 2027. That's not trust.
ISO Joe Johnson
Listen, I. I like Kyle Pierce.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I thought.
ISO Joe Johnson
I thought he picked it up in the second half. Second half of the season. I thought he played great football. But I think these Falcons, man, they want to see some meaningful football around here, fellas, you know what I mean? Like this. Hey, they. They want to see this team at least make the damn playoffs, you know what I'm saying? Like, they just paid Drake London.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What?
ISO Joe Johnson
They just pay him.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They gave you London 35.35.2.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, they just gave him a boatload, you feel me? Hey, hey.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What?
ISO Joe Johnson
Pick.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Look, boy, pick like. Hold on, man, you mean to tell me I'm playing on 27?
Joe (Co-host)
Damn, they got to come see me. Hey, I gotta see. That's the thing as picture. Voluntary workouts yet.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't think he showed up, though.
Joe (Co-host)
Yeah, I don't think he's showing up.
ISO Joe Johnson
Are you talking about George Pickens? Now, he ain't showed up yet. He gonna be there next week. Mandatory. He gonna be there next week.
Joe (Co-host)
Oh, you think so?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah. His name ain't on that contract.
Joe (Co-host)
Yeah, okay.
ISO Joe Johnson
He gonna be there next week, fellas.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, I forgot. This doesn't mean something right here. Ocho. This is struck a nerve right here.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he gonna, he gonna be there. We gonna get some things straightening. Don't worry.
Joe (Co-host)
What kind of, what kind of straightening we talk about? Because the only straightening he needs to talk about is maybe a full five year deal that'll get some straightening.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, Oo. I ain't saying he ain't gonna get that. He gonna get that, bro. I ain't saying he gonna get it this year.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What I'm talking about. What we talking about.
Joe (Co-host)
But what we talking about then? What we talking about? We ain't talking about nothing.
ISO Joe Johnson
Y' all gotta be patient.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I've been patient.
Joe (Co-host)
Well, I've been patient as Sally May.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How you just got.
ISO Joe Johnson
You. He just got here last. He just got to the Cowboys last year.
Joe (Co-host)
You know what he can do, and he showed you what he could do.
ISO Joe Johnson
You want to show me again? Show me again. Show me again.
Joe (Co-host)
You, you want to play? Nah, I'm good.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, man, he looking at Drake London. He's like, I, I look and I don't knock anybody, but I think y' all think I'm better than him. That's why I'm saying he gonna get 40.
ISO Joe Johnson
He gonna pass CD.
Joe (Co-host)
Yes.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Drake, London playing CD.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
As a matter of fact, he passed Jetta. He third. Damn. You got jsn, you got Chase, and now you got London, Drake.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And we ain't even did Puka.
Joe (Co-host)
Hey, boy. Hey, Pooh finna double set the market. He 43. 43.
ISO Joe Johnson
Timing is everything.
Joe (Co-host)
Yeah,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
damn.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, it is.
Joe (Co-host)
Hey, listen, I, I'm, I'm, I'm Right now, I'm in World cup mode right now. But boy, when football season start, Joe,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
it's gonna be, hey, it's arms race. And everybody, you know, feel they g, you know, geared up. They got the players in fragancy that they wanted, they added depth and, and the draft and, you know, move some pieces around. Yeah, everybody, everybody go, you know, look, everybody goes into say, this is our year. We got the pieces to go get it done. It's gonna be very interesting to see.
Joe (Co-host)
Yeah, they can say what they want.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You have the pieces.
Joe (Co-host)
It's only, it's only Eight teams that really have a chance. It's only about eight. Maybe, maybe nine.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Joe (Co-host)
No. Oh, hold on. Christian Watson just got his deal too.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yep.
Joe (Co-host)
Over there in Green Bay.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What was it, four years? 121.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe (Co-host)
Come on now. And y', all, y' all want to play?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't know, Joe, but no, they don't trust you, Kyle, because you're injured. History, you've been injured, you've been underperformed, you've had a great rookie year, and then your fifth year, option year, you played outstanding. But years two, three and four in between, they weren't great. We, we know you're a phenomenal talent. The size, the speed, the athleticism. We've seen the work that you can do. We've seen it. In year one, you went over a thousand yard, made the Pro Bowl. We saw it. In year five, your option year, we saw what you did, second in receptions, second in receiving yards behind Trey McBride. So we know you're more than capable of getting it done. But I'm not so sure they're willing to invest that based on 1 and 5. And then we see what's in the middle of 1 and 5, right?
ISO Joe Johnson
Well, well look, we gotta hope that, Damn the Falcons. Gotta hope that TUA can get these boys a damn ball.
Joe (Co-host)
So you got two are starting.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, he gonna. Because what you call him ain't healthy.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hell, he better be healthy.
ISO Joe Johnson
Pennix.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I didn't, I didn't, I mean, look, he might turn out to be great, Ocho, but you remember I say Ocho, I, I, I, I, I couldn't do this deal, right? First of all, he's already, what, 24, 25. You're 24, 25 years of age. He's coming off two knee injuries. Not that, no, I can't, I didn't like the Cousins move, right? I mean, I told, I said, ocho, bro, you give him that kind of money, he's coming off an Achilles injury. He was never mobile to begin with. I said, so now you got a quarterback that you paid all this money to and you draft the quarterback, right?
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, that damn cousin's got a hell
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
of an agent here in the Asian hall of Fame.
Joe (Co-host)
Fourth, fourth most. If I'm at either third or fourth most, made money at the quarterback position.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, his contract, Ocho, the last, probably the last decade has been guaranteed, fully guaranteed, because he played two years on the franchise tag at Washington. He got three years guaranteed at, at what you call Minnesota, and then he got another three, and then he got another. Yeah, so basically his whole.
ISO Joe Johnson
What do you get to. What did he get to go to Vegas? Any in Vegas?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Fifteen. What do you get? Fifteen, 20? Yeah, I think. But. But it's guaranteed.
ISO Joe Johnson
Damn.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Cause y' all still owing some money. Who are you? Atlanta.
Joe (Co-host)
Atlanta. You know they don't pay you all that money at one time. You, you get it, you get it in allotments?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, he had what you call them, Ocho, I think he had 10, $12 million guaranteed this year from the Falcons.
Joe (Co-host)
Said two of the start already. You know, he ain't even, he ain't even let the quarterback battle happen in camp. He just say two up, bro.
ISO Joe Johnson
I didn't even know. I ain't even think Pennix was even in camp. I thought he would. He, I thought he's still recovering from what? Acl. He back.
Joe (Co-host)
All right, he back.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now it's time for our final segment evening. It's time for Q and A. Before we get to our super chats, we've got two video voicemail from our discord. Let's take a listen to the first one.
Joe (Co-host)
What's up big three? I just have one question for all you guys, man. Big Michael Vick fan here. Just wanted to know, sharp Ocho ISO. What would be your favorite Michael Vick moment from the start of his career to the end?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know, did you have any personal
Joe (Co-host)
interactions with him or any moments where you said, man, only Mike could do that, Only they could do that. Shout out to all the Falcons fans out there. Tough season.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, that overtime run against the, the Minnesota Vikings.
Joe (Co-host)
Vikings, yeah. We ran right into the locker room.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yep. And the throw on that Monday night, you remember that throw?
Joe (Co-host)
You had to DJ, to DeShawn to DJ, like right at the five yard line.
ISO Joe Johnson
That was nice, man. Hold on. He had a, I think they had a Monday night game here when he was playing for the Falcons. They played against the Eagles. He had, he had a hell of a game that night. But I, I remember vividly the one that D. Jack, that was probably first. Second player today.
Joe (Co-host)
Play action. Deep. A deep play action.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He uploaded it.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, boy got a gun on you know what?
Joe (Co-host)
And, and I'm trying to think and I, I think Vic, he's had so many moments to the point where we always talk about how great Vic was. In order for you to understand how great he was, you had to be there during that time to understand it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yep.
Joe (Co-host)
It was an experience. When you go to Disney World, when you go to, when you go to parks, when you go to zoos, it's about an experience. And unless you were around to watch Michael Vick play, I ain't talking about watching no highlights as great as those were. I'm talking about being able to see him in real time and hoping they were playing on Thursday night or hoping they were playing on Monday night so you can be able to see him as a player, as myself. On, on how I looked at being able to watch Michael Vic during that tenure, during his time, it was, it was, it was, it was unbelievable. It was, it was a sight to see. And it still looks different even though we have Lamar Jackson, right? It just looks different, you know, when, when Michael Vick was able to do it. And I can't think of one thing that stands out at one moment. Just collectively his highlights in general and what he bought to the game, the unpredictability of him being, you know, playing a quarterback position, it was, it was unbelievable. Joe and Uncle, I don't think really there's, there really aren't words I can put together to explain what it was like watching Michael Vick play, bro.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm telling y', all, man, when, when I was here for the Hawks, he was playing for the Falcons. I had season tickets for the Falcons. I didn't miss many games, bro. That man was electric. Not only was he electric, this city embraced him like no other. Do you hear me? They love that man, bro.
Joe (Co-host)
It's so funny. And you know, I'm. I'm down here in Chicago to do the Madden 27 reveal. So it's, it's me. Michael Vick is here. Cam Newton is here. Obviously Caleb Williams is, is a cover athlete. I was with them, with them yesterday. Who else is here? Marshawn Lynch. Yeah, he told me, he told me to tell y' all boys what's up.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah,
Joe (Co-host)
and I mean, it's Vic, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's why I was shocked, Ocho And Joe, that Mr. Blank wouldn't give up those two first round picks for Lamar Jackson.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, can you imagine?
Joe (Co-host)
That wouldn't be fair.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Think about it. You could have Lamar Jackson on that turf, in that building, in that what, In Atlanta.
Joe (Co-host)
That wouldn't be fair.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So in other words, you say you'd rather have Kirk Cousins, you'd rather have Michael Pennix Jr. Or you'd rather have Tua as opposed to Lamar Jackson? Nobody. So in other words, when Lamar Jackson was a free agent, nobody thought enough of him as a player that you will have give a two first rounders. I understood some. If you bought, if you Buffalo, you Kansas City, you Cincinnati, there are Certain teams we good at the quarterback position, but there about 27 other y' all that y' all weren't good and y' all were not good at that position. I just.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, right, hey, facts.
Joe (Co-host)
I, I think they understood that a deal was getting done in Baltimore.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, I'll make sure it's gonna get done.
Joe (Co-host)
Yeah. Yeah, right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'mma put the pressure on you.
Joe (Co-host)
Yeah, they. They knew he wasn't going nowhere. As a matter of fact, if they put the pressure, I mean, the Ravens. The Ravens, they weren't having it. You're not letting a player of that magnitude that's that good, that's that young and still in his prime walk out your building. When he is the. When he is the team.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The mere fact that you put a franchise. You let it get to that. That told. See, that soured him right there.
Joe (Co-host)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know, they. They paid him, but it's still. Because he looks around and ain't really none of the quarterback that they like. We look. Patrick Mahomes ain't go through that. Joe Burrow didn't go through that. Justin Herbert didn't go through that. Trevor Lawrence didn't go through that. Josh Allen didn't go through that. Those are five quarterbacks that we put that. You know, you say, okay, Lamar Jackson is in that group and they never had to go through what he's going through. First of all, with the franchise tag now trying to find a way to get a long term deal done, none of these other quarterbacks that I mentioned had to endure what he's had to go through. And I know you said, well, hey, Josh Allen ain't been to no Super Bowl. Neither has Justin Herbert, neither has Trevor Lawrence. Josh. Joe Burrow has. Patrick Mahomes is a different situation. But I'm just saying he never had to go through what those guys never went through, what he had to deal with.
Joe (Co-host)
Right.
ISO Joe Johnson
Do you think, do you think it has something. Do you think it has something to do with him representing himself?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, no. Look, the thing is, you look at Joe, I look at the. It's like, does a basketball player really need the agent? Either I'm getting the max or I'm getting damn near the max.
ISO Joe Johnson
Absolutely not. Right?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And so he's looking at like, okay, you see what that guy got? I need to make more to him. I got to keep it wrong. I got to make it. I got to get. I got to get, you know, 5, 10 more than what he got.
Joe (Co-host)
Yeah, it makes sense, right? The market is the market, Joe. No matter. Especially for A premium quarterback like that, it is what it is. And my quiet, quietest cap. Some deals should be work, be gonna be working behind closed doors right now.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So for me, I, I, it did, it didn't make any sense to me. Atlanta would have been great for him, Drake, London and all those guys, Kyle Pitts, man, But hey, I'm sure he's, he's, he's, he's happy in Baltimore dealing with it. But he's like, man, I got to go through this. Why none of these other guys got to go through that. Why I got to go through it, right?
ISO Joe Johnson
Thanks.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm a two time league MVP. Two time league, league MVPs doesn't normally have to endure this, right?
Joe (Co-host)
That is true.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Here's the second one. Let's take a listen.
Joe (Co-host)
What up?
NBC News Announcer
What up?
Joe (Co-host)
OO and if you meet another, he's a phony. What up, Joe?
ISO Joe Johnson
Question for you.
Joe (Co-host)
All right, so I've been thinking of
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
spicing things up, right?
Joe (Co-host)
Me and my girl, we've been together for about going on four years. And if you answer this, Unc and Joe, you never know, they might tag along, tell us about it. We, we gotta see, right? So when you hitting it from the back, right? Yeah. Stay with me. Now you got that one hole looking at you and you looking at it, we both, we all know I'm talking about right now. And it's like, should I eat it?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes. How do I go on about this, Ocho?
Joe (Co-host)
Because I ain't never done it. But if you could help a brother out, you know, might, hey, she might. You never know, right? So. Yes, sir. Can you let us know how you can, how it can be easier for us? Appreciate it, dog. Well, listen, listen. One thing about a young fella. I'm glad, I'm glad you asked and I'm glad you wouldn't have learned. I'm glad you're willing to expand your palette. But what you have to understand, if you've never done it before, close your eyes, you hear me? Close your eyes, huh? If anything, make it easy for yourself. Turn the lights off, you hear me? That's how you start, you know, it's like you're in kindergarten. You start all, you start off as a youngster, you know, turn the lights off until you get a little bit more experience in, in the matter and you know and understand what you're doing. You got to understand and read body language, young fellow, huh? Read body language and get it, give you a better understanding, you know. Does she like it? Does she like, does she not and that. That's all to it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What you doing?
Joe (Co-host)
Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. Hey, you've been together four years, huh? You might add another 14 after this.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, the man. Hey, he said he want to spice up his. His love life. He said the whole looking back at him,
Joe (Co-host)
it'd be cute, too. Like, it'd be looking at you, Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
You ain't gotta eat no booty, young man. You ain't gotta. You ain't gotta do all that.
Joe (Co-host)
Don't listen to Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, hey. He can plug it up. He can. He can. He can move.
Joe (Co-host)
I like. I like. You got. Okay, I see you. I see you. You know, a little something, huh?
ISO Joe Johnson
There's other ways, man. All I'm saying. Come on. Come on.
Joe (Co-host)
They don't listen to Joe, man. Huh? Go ahead and get in there, but put your scuba gear on, you hear me? Huh? Get. Hey, hit that Randy Moss real quick, huh?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yes, sir. Hey, hey. Oh. Oh, come on, man. Oh. Help. Help me out here.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
This man, he just. He just have no regard. Just. I'll be in a good moment.
Joe (Co-host)
Hey, I'm glad. I'm glad you willing, though, young fella. Enjoy yourself. Come back and let me know how it was, you hear me?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, I mean, I guess since there's. I mean, you want to spice things up. The best way to spice things up is with roast sparks. And we can get you on a reoccurring plan to find out if roast sparks are right for you. Oh, my goodness.
ISO Joe Johnson
Dang.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't. I don't know what is. I. I guess this is. You know, Joe. I mean, I guess you and I, we kind of phased out.
Joe (Co-host)
Yeah. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
This era. Because, I mean, it seemed like. I mean, they like this. This is like off the muscle. I mean, he said he been there four years and this. I mean, he's trying. He's like thinking, okay, should I. Should I not? But Ocho, the way Ocho talk, they do this off the rip, man, that
ISO Joe Johnson
must be a Florida thing.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Gotta be. I told you, I've been. I've been annex Florida.
Joe (Co-host)
It ain't got nothing to do with Florida. And just. It's about.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They talking about build a wall on the Mexican board. I'm gonna build a wall on Florida. Can't nobody get in or out of Florida. Hell to the no. I'm building a wall.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, the Florida boys.
Joe (Co-host)
Look here, you got nothing to do with that. And you know another thing that's very important, too, especially when you start expanding your horizons. You got to Work on your breathing. Huh?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What kind of breathing?
Joe (Co-host)
I mean, because when. When you. When you're back there, sometimes your nose be stuck, so you really can't breathe. So you got to learn how to breathe while you're doing it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Depending why your nose in it.
Joe (Co-host)
Because if she curvy, is she curvy? But you ain't gonna be able to breathe.
ISO Joe Johnson
You gotta. You gotta know how to go in, come out. It's like a swimmer. You know how to swim. Swimmers in it.
Joe (Co-host)
Yeah. And they got to be able to be able to control your breath when you go in. You got to be able to hold your breath at least a minute or two. Yeah, yeah, Joe. It's an art to it, Joe. That's what I'm trying to get you to understand. This ain't. It's art to this.
ISO Joe Johnson
It's an art. Okay. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
If I'm gonna see some art, it's gonna be in the art gallery. Ain't gonna be in no boomki.
Joe (Co-host)
Yeah. Hey. Hey, Joe.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Got cheeks spread like Kurt. Like he looking through it. Looking at the curtain, Joe. You really looking at the curtains.
Joe (Co-host)
Hey.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Telling you, hey. Or you remember to be. You had them bees in your house. Did you go to the kitchen? You go to somebody room?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. I'm so sorry, Chad. I am so sorry, but the.
Joe (Co-host)
The chat. No, the chat. The chat is willing and open to try new things. I mean, that's what this.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, oh, oh, yeah. It's. It's some freaks in the chat, too.
Joe (Co-host)
Now, it had nothing to do with freak.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now, there shouldn't be that dude got
ISO Joe Johnson
something to do with being freaking freaks.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Joe (Co-host)
Be a definitive description on. On being able to expand your horizon and try new things that shouldn't be labeled as a freak.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, whatever you do behind closed, y' all call it whatever you want to. Yes. I mean, what. What. Hey, it's all considered sex when the door is closed.
Joe (Co-host)
Exactly my point. Exactly.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nobody knows where the nose goes when the dose closed.
Joe (Co-host)
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You tell me anything, I'll do that. But, hey. And it used. But I'm just saying, you know, it's. I mean, there was one or two guys, like, when I was growing up and, you know, girl get mad at them and say, that's why you did. You ate my. You know, I mean, you don't come.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, but it was.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, like. And guys were embarrassed. Guys wouldn't say that, man, you have to fight somebody. You'll take. That's why you. Such as what? You had to fight somebody. You call Somebody a eater
ISO Joe Johnson
now, they.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They accept it now.
Joe (Co-host)
Hey, listen.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe (Co-host)
Times are different, huh? Times have evolved, huh? It's time for you two to evolve with the times.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. I mean, you a munch, huh? Are you a munch?
Joe (Co-host)
What?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know, I try to keep up with the lingo a little bit, but, I mean.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, Lord.
Joe (Co-host)
Hey, hey, Uncle Joe. Every time, you know, you with your lady, you've been together for years. Everything. At some point, it becomes routine. You know, you. You get comfortable and you get tired of the same thing over and over and just, you know, just, you know, it should be an experience. Every time something, she got to go back and hit in the group chat. Oh, you won't believe what he did. You know, girl, it got to be one of them girl nights. You know what they whine like.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. Yeah, girl. Yeah.
Joe (Co-host)
I ain't never. And it was something new to me. It felt like the time when we first met. Girl, I had butterflies. I was nervous, mind. You'd have been together seven, eight years, and you get that honeymoon phase feeling again. Ain't nothing like that, Joe. Ain't nothing like that. Like, I'm telling you, man. Y' all got to listen to me. It's about the experience, huh? Telling you. Hey, get some of them toys, Joe. Unc. Get that swing set. I'm telling you. Get you some ky. Get that butt plug. You know, let it get. Get that strap. I'm telling you. Use them roast bogs.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. I'm so sorry for my partner.
ISO Joe Johnson
Co host.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He mean well. Chad. Y' all forgive him. It's been a long night. He been traveling a lot. Y' all notice y' all see him in a different hotel room almost every day?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
On and off planes. I mean, it starts to wear on you after a while.
ISO Joe Johnson
Man get sleepy here.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Joe (Co-host)
We good. We good. We good. We're gonna be all right. Now,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
why do men's college basketball play halves, then everyone else play quarters? Ocho, is there a certain, certain song playing when you're eating groceries? Three on three versus pivot trio would be fire.
ISO Joe Johnson
I didn't want this smoke.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No.
ISO Joe Johnson
You know. Hey, hey, hey. The one thing I tell y', all, y' all too bad mofo. By y'. Allself, y' all like Steph and Clay, but damn it, y' all added Kevin Durant this, like, this like. It's like we cheated.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that. Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, Jody said there are songs that you like to listen to.
Joe (Co-host)
Oh, I mean, right now, right now, there's a very good song, very popular, you know, by my home team and my little. My little niece down there from Miami, you know, she's Brownie. Spin. Yeah, spin that. Yeah, yeah, play that. Spin that, man. Yeah, yeah. That's the song of the summer now,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
man, she out, man. She off the chair, man. I interview her.
Joe (Co-host)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man, I had so, so much fun with that woman, man.
Joe (Co-host)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I say, I say you, you breaking up with your boyfriend. You break it up with somebody for cheating. She like, nah, I told my game about. I'll probably give him about four chances. I say four, like, I'm gonna get your number then. No, but she was great, man. She was. She was great. She was unbelievable, man. I. I mean, if the NFL were to expand, which US Cities would you want to see get a team? How would that impact divisions?
Joe (Co-host)
Trying to think what's.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't think that they not looking because you got 32. It's perfect. Oo. You got eight, four division teams.
Joe (Co-host)
Yeah, hypothetically. I like, I like, I like the idea of it. I mean, what, what, what places would be nice that don't have a team that are really good cities?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, you already got. You got three teams in Florida. Yeah, you got three. You got the Chargers and the Rams. You got three teams in Cali. You got two teams in New York.
Joe (Co-host)
Right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You're about to have two teams in Indiana.
Joe (Co-host)
Oh, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Bears about to relocate and the Colts. Damn.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm trying to think. Hold on. So the Bears ain't gonna have Chicago
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
ain't gonna have no.
Joe (Co-host)
I mean, no, it's Indiana. It's about a 40 minute drive. About a 40 minute drive.
ISO Joe Johnson
Ah, it's indoors or outdoors.
Joe (Co-host)
State of the art. Ain't Buffalo too stated? Stated all.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, well, you got three teams in New York then, because you got Buffalo. I believe you got, well, Buffalo. Buffalo's in upstate. And you got the jets and the Giants. I even know they play in Jersey, but I'm just. Yeah, but I. I don't know, Ojo. I don't know you. Well, you got Houston, Dallas in, in Texas. Jerry ain't gonna let you put another team in Texas.
Joe (Co-host)
Yeah, he.
ISO Joe Johnson
You don't know.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Is there one in. One in. One in one in Vegas, one in Atlanta.
Joe (Co-host)
What about St. Louis getting a team again?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They ain't gonna support it. They had A team they had the Cardinals. They left to go. They left to go to Phoenix. They had the right. The Rams move. Relocated from Anaheim, went there and 20 years later they left.
Joe (Co-host)
So, yeah,
ISO Joe Johnson
yeah. NFL ain't coming with no new teams. They'll move a damn thing, but they ain't coming with no.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think the new team's coming from the NBA.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, absolutely.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think Vegas gets a team, Seattle gets a team. Yeah, I agree with you. I agree with you guys. You think moving a team is one thing, but I don't, I don't see.
ISO Joe Johnson
So that means that mean if the NBA, they're gonna have to move two teams out east. If they get, if they get two teams, they get one in Vegas, one in Seattle. You're gonna have to move two of them. Teams in the west, you're gonna move
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
to them probably Minnesota because they're the closest.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, they definitely. That's one
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
probably Memphis.
ISO Joe Johnson
You're absolutely right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Seems like no brainers to me.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What did I tell you? If the spurs have to go to the garden O2, it'll get real dark for them. Stop sleeping on me, Ocho Nixon. Poe
Joe (Co-host)
say stop sleeping on your OTO. And I said Nixon 6 now. I said Nixon 6 now. Sweep would be phenomenal. But I'm gonna get, I'm gonna get. I'm get us got to get a Spurs a game at least.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm sure hoping they can get a game.
Joe (Co-host)
I thought the game would have been tonight, honestly.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They had it. They. They give it up. But I got. I, I mean you got to give, you got to give the next credit. You do got to give him credit. Ms. Johnson is getting out, coach. Birds like size and depth and they don't put. Don't have a point guard. Castle is a turnover machine. KJ is a no show and a rookie. Harper looks like he's your best player. Damn. Yeah, I mean it's hard for. It's hard for Kelvin Johnson to get a rhythm because he only play. He played three minutes here, he played a minute there. He played. It's hard for him to get a rhythm because in the regular season, Joe, he playing probably what, 25 minutes a night.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, but they taking him out the game too. He, he. I'm talking about. He's non existent.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
ISO Joe Johnson
You know, he's a space shoot the three.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He can take it out the dribble, but he ain't making shots. So it's hard to the hard to find a race, you know, and he's not a great defender, so it's kind of hard.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, it's hard to play him, bro. 6 Man of the year.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, but we said Castle, that. That was my concern. That was my concern against the Thunder. Turned the ball over too much.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The spurs. Animal furs. Crispy. Oars. Crispy or d'? Oeuvres? Nixon 5. So we got a sweep. We got a five. Ocho say Nixon 6. Congrats, Rep. You played yourself. Nixon 4. Bad turnover by Wimby, but champagne sold. My prize pick. With those three point attempts, we had everything, right, Joe? What happened?
ISO Joe Johnson
Champion. What he didn't make, he needed.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He needed three. He had two. And he had two early. He had two in the first quarter.
Joe (Co-host)
He was, you know,
ISO Joe Johnson
Damn,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ocho, people got to start calling you Steve Stephen Vincent Strange because you can see the future. Respect it, man.
Joe (Co-host)
Hello?
ISO Joe Johnson
Man, can't see no damn,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
huh? Oh, look, I so big fan. Timothy Chalamet mentioned you were supposed to be in Marty Supreme. What happened?
ISO Joe Johnson
Man, I seen a clip of that. I promise you, I never if. Unless he called somebody who was representing me, I never got no call about, man. Y' all think I would have turned that down?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hell no, I ain't. So when I heard. When I heard that on 7pm Brooklyn on the Mellow podcast, right? That's what he said. It shocked me just by hearing it, man. I'm looking to get into a couple movies.
Joe (Co-host)
He might have been Chad Johnson, huh?
ISO Joe Johnson
Nah, Hell no.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Spirit cared about nothing but beating okc. That was their finals. Now, I'm gonna disagree on that. They just felt confident all year. They felt they need to play them really well. Needed to beat them in the regular season. That's what gave them confidence that they can beat them in the postseason. Because they're like, hey, we beat y' all in the regular season, we should be able to beat y' all in the postseason. Because it's the same game. Yes, higher stakes, but we still play in 12 minute quarters, right? The second the shot clock, everything is the same three point line, still the same distance. So I think that gave him. Gave him confidence. All the excuses for women shaking my head. He only plays good when he can. When he can bully you. If you match him, he backs down.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, they got a point. You got the. Hey, you give him some resistance. Hey, the Knicks have been doing a great job. I'm talking about and trying to play bully ball with him. Making it tough, being physical and, you know, it's been working.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think, yes, we can blame women, but I swear, if it was Pop, it would be Different. Very bad decisions by Mitch. Shout out to the Knicks showing their experience. Yeah, these are better. This is a veteran ball club. Yeah, this is a very.
ISO Joe Johnson
They showing it too.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They've been there. You know, they felt like they let something slip away last year. Let something slip away the year before. It is like, you know what? We're gonna see this opportunity.
ISO Joe Johnson
And knowing that they came into this, this Finals, everybody talking about they the underdog.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yep.
ISO Joe Johnson
They taking that personal, bro.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
One thing I noticed is that OKC and Knicks forced the spurs to play faster than I think they can handle it. Makes them look very. Look like they have no game plan. Sometimes I think it's just them. I think sometimes they speed themselves up, Ocho and Joe and take fast shots in the shot clock. I'm like, bro, it's 19 seconds and you letting the three off. Why?
ISO Joe Johnson
That's why I say they. That's why I say it look like they have no rhyme or reason to what it is they're doing offensively. They just want to turn you over and get out and run. And when they can't, and when they can't do that, you know, it's. It's tough for them to come by points, you know what I mean? When the game kind of slows down. That's why I think you got to use Foxborough. When he got the high hand. You gotta ride that high hand.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Cause he's still the guy didn't get his shot anytime he wanted. He can get to any spot on the court. Women, Yama, Barack Obama, Yushi Nobuyama. Great show.
ISO Joe Johnson
James.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Three grades talking. That is better than espn. Appreciate your support. Yo, big three. Please send my daughter Maya and her best friend Maddie a special shout out for getting accepted into a competitive nursing pro school program. Absolutely. Maya, Maddie, congratulations on being accepted into this very, very high ranking nursing program.
Joe (Co-host)
Congratulations.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The guys at Nightcap very, very proud and happy for you. Congratulations, man. Knicks lost the lead when Brunson came back in. It ruined the chemistry. He has to stop playing hero ball when he should be killing time, bro. He kind of won you the game that game. Cause he hit the shot that tied it up. And. And he hit the free throw that gave you the one point win.
ISO Joe Johnson
He did, bro. He did.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Wimby is honoring France by surrendering.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, man, come on.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ocho don't know anything about basketball. He's just talking throw an ish against the wall and hoping it stick.
Joe (Co-host)
Hey, I tell you one thing. It's been sticking the past three, four months. How about that?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Lucky Lucky nothing. Oo, how you a Heat friend and you rooting for the Knicks because the
Joe (Co-host)
Heat ain't in the damn finals.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Duh, you gotta, you got to be loyal.
ISO Joe Johnson
You ain't loyal
Joe (Co-host)
spurs and you a Hawks fan.
ISO Joe Johnson
But I'm saying you rooting and cheering for the Knicks as though you a damn.
Joe (Co-host)
No, I made that clear before this even started. I was HE fan. I was always be a HE fan. Don't be fooled. I said I made that clear a long time ago. So whoever it is that said that, don't watch the show enough.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Big three, can you give my kids a birthday shout out? Hayden, Harlan, Hakeem, my baby girl Alana. Love y'. All. One more thing and still king ISO. I'm gonna put my house, my house on ISO versus OO 101. Absolutely. Happy birthday. Hayden, Harlan, Aem and Alana, your dad wanted you to give us, wanted us to give you a big shout out. So happy birthday. We don't know your ages, but hey, happy birthday. You guys are having a birthday very close proximity and hopefully you guys got some really nice gifts and your dad and your parents are really, really proud of you guys. So Hakeem, Hayden, Harlot and Alana, happy B day to all you guys.
ISO Joe Johnson
Happy birthday.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
As a Thunder fan, I hope Chad watch Cat tonight. This is the attitude we want you to have.
ISO Joe Johnson
His game ain't like that though.
Joe (Co-host)
He doesn't have the body type to be able to do what Cat is doing either.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nope.
ISO Joe Johnson
Right. Yeah, he don't he frail like Wimby out there. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Chad elite ball knowledge. Johnson strikes again. Ostradamus with the predictions.
Joe (Co-host)
Hello. Man,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
if Dylan harbor keeps playing defense, driving the basketball the way he did tonight for a few years, he's do a big payday in the future. Oh, that's gonna come. But sometime. Joe, sometimes everything ain't meant to be a one on one or one on two. It's okay to pull it out. Yeah, because you're going against their best defender, og.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, I agree. He. And, but he, he'll learn. He'll learn this. I mean, here the man, a rookie playing in the finals, playing significant minutes, Playing great, actually.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
ISO Joe Johnson
You know, I just think they gotta find. Hell, they gotta find more minutes for young boys.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, well, they got to go somewhere else because if, if, if they're gonna need, they're gonna need Fox to play like he played tonight in New York, to give themselves a chance. Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, I, I'm saying you can play. I like Fox and Harp out there together.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay, See, that makes them really smart because. So that means you gotta have. Cause Wimby is really the only. So that means you gotta have. If you got Fox and Harper playing together, that means. Cat. Where you gonna sit, Castle? Down. You're gonna sit for sale. Down. You gonna sit. Champagne?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. You out of them three. You figure out which one ain't playing great and you sit his ass down. That's what I think. Yeah, that's what you do.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Congrats. Oh, Kelton Johnson been straight groceries in these playoffs besides game seven versus the Thunder.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, the thing is, the Knicks got size. I ain't talking about just Cat and Robinson, but OG Hart and Bridges. Them ain't no little bitty dudes, bro. And they gone and they playing hard. Yeah, they get. It's tough. It's tough down there for Kevin.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And OG got a grown ass man body. Look how OG built. Look at this man's shoulders, man.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hold on. Did you see that man body? Do you see him body? Women go up there, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Come on. Congrats, ISO. You are my second all time favorite non nick player behind Kobe. You have. You three have made something special so, so much. Bringing us the best show every night. Thank you, Unanocho ISO. We love y'. All. Nightcap for life. We appreciate the support.
ISO Joe Johnson
Thank you, bro.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We really, really appreciate that, bro. Thank you. Bing Bong, Let me get chopped cheese. Y. I. I just. Joe believed the. The spurs can win a game and bring it back. I just, I thought tonight. I think tonight took a lot out of him. It took a lot out of them.
ISO Joe Johnson
It did.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It did. Bronson and Fox got that rivalry going back to high school.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I saw some highlights and clips of Jaylen Brunson and Fox, not Fox. Jason Tatum against each other.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Bronson hit him up like 50, like 46. And Tatum had like 39.
ISO Joe Johnson
Damn.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yep. If only Cat would have played like this with Anthony, they would have had one.
ISO Joe Johnson
It's just, it was. It was too hard for him to play like this, man. I mean, when you got Gober up under that damn paint, Cat gotta be at the five for him to be effective like this. You put him at that 5, he'll mismatch every night.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Spurs are right there. They win two in the Rotten Apple and the series is up for grabs.
ISO Joe Johnson
Damn.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I commented that yesterday that Fox needed to be on a bill of type role. He did just that. But the coach did let him close. Cat is grown. Is grown man grown. Manning, Wimby and The Spurs, Game 3 the ceiling might crack at MSG. That place is going to be electric.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, they are, bro. They put hands and feet all on that boy.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Wimby is like that Great Dane that think he's a lap dog. The way he be hovering around the three point line like he a guard. He's got to get down there and bang, man. He just do.
ISO Joe Johnson
Got to.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You get three chances to score on Victor Womenyama or take one full speed hit from prime Ray Lewis for a million dollars. Which one you choosing? You three have perfect chemistry and great delivery. Big three is must see tv. Thank you. I appreciate that, Joe. What? You taking three chances to score on Wednesday or you want full speed hit from Ray?
ISO Joe Johnson
No, I'm gonna give women this damn business over here. Three chances, boy.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Three.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm getting me.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You're gonna bucket. You'll get a bucket. What, man?
ISO Joe Johnson
Come on, Ocho. I'm getting me.
Joe (Co-host)
I'm going with Ray. You laughing, Joe? I had to deal with Ray for a decade straight. Twice a year. Go ahead and take that million, bro. Yeah, I know how to take the hit. I know how to brace. I know how to fall. I'm good.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
What you doing, Wimby?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'mma elbow the out of you. Hey, hey. I saw how OG moved about the way, so I'm good.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm saying in three tries, I promise you I'm gonna get a bunch.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hell yeah. Okay. What's good? Big three. As a construction worker, I don't have a choice. But if y' all had to do number two, using a porta potty in 10 degrees or 100 degrees? Which one y' all choosing?
Joe (Co-host)
10 degrees.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
10 degrees, man, I got 100 degrees. It's hot and it's mayor. Oh, no. Give me the tea. Give me the 10 degrees. What you doing, Joe?
ISO Joe Johnson
I'll tell you, I'll take it 10, too. I'm hoping to hear the germs and froze today. Yeah,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
man, that plastic get hot up at 100 degrees? Oh, no, man, I'm good.
Joe (Co-host)
Hey, I mean. I mean, I'm in there for a short time, not a long time. I don't care whether it's 10 degrees or 100, Joe. Man, that thing gets up out of there white. Six times. Six times. I'm good, huh?
ISO Joe Johnson
Ain't no way, no.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How much did they pay y' all to be on these video games throughout y' all careers? And were y' all satisfied with the finished product, likeness and ratings? I don't. I don't know. I didn't play. I didn't play video games. I mean obviously the teammates they play, they take the consoles on the roll and they be playing all in the room. They played it at work. I didn't really care.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, I played the games. I couldn't wait to see myself in the video game. I'm gonna keep it real. I always boost my ratings up a little bit because I wasn't never happy with the damn ratings they gave me. I'm just keeping real. I'm always boost mine up a little bit, you know.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That concludes this episode of Nightcap. The New York Knicks go on the road and they take game two after taking game one. They take game two 105 to 104. The spurs had a chance but Wimy missed about a 17 footer. And the Knicks go on the road and take game two after already taking game one. Now game three is on Monday, Game four is on Wednesday. They have a chance not to get back on the plane and head back to San Antonio. We'll see. They play very well on the road. They played even better at home to see if they can close it out. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle. That's my partner and co host. That's Liberty City's own the Bengals ring of fame honoree, a former Pro Bowler and an all pro. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson and the third member of the big three, a seven time hello all star from the University of Arkansas and the Atlanta Hawks. That is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Wherever you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you. You make it worthwhile. You do us proud. You make us proud. And we cannot thank you enough for the support that you've given us over the last three years. Thank you so very much. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier head over to laportierconac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. It is a premium BSOP cognac, the best tasting, smoothest VSOP cognac on the market. And it drinks like an XO. We have it in two sizes. The 750 is the OG. The 375 is the Junior. It's the same great quality, the same great taste, the same smoothness. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Knicks go on the road and win Game 2 after winning Game 1, 105 to 104. Jalen Brunson had 20 points, Carl Anthony Towns had 20 points and Mikhail Bridges also had 20 points. The Knicks are looking to close this thing out on they look. They're not looking to come back to San Antonio. They're not looking to come back. So we'll see how Game 3 plays out Monday night. We're off tomorrow, but we will see you on Sunday. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm up. He's ocho. He's ISO.
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Episode Theme:
A lively, unfiltered late-night sports talk covering the NBA Finals (Wemby’s tough loss and self-blame), surging ticket prices at MSG, the 2026 FIFA World Cup host cities, NBA sneaker free agency, NFL contract drama, and plenty of candid locker room stories and life advice.
Overall:
A classic “Nightcap” mix of incisive sports talk, barbershop wisdom, and raw, hilarious life advice—with memorable rants on underdog stories, player contracts, loyalty, and what it means to be a winner, a fan, or just a man having fun with his friends.