Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Deebo NOT FEELING Tom Brady's Hot Take, Shedeur Sanders MASSIVE PAY DAY, Spurs-Knicks Finals

Summary

Nightcap Podcast Summary

Episode: Deebo & Joe – Part 1: Deebo NOT FEELING Tom Brady's Hot Take, Shedeur Sanders MASSIVE PAY DAY, Spurs-Knicks Finals
Hosts: James 'Deebo' Harrison & Joe Hayden
Date: June 1, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of Nightcap centers on the NBA playoffs, in particular the Spurs-Knicks Finals matchup, Shedeur Sanders’ record-breaking NFL rookie jersey sales, and a passionate debate on NFL practice squad players—spurred by Tom Brady’s latest hot take. James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Hayden deliver their trademark mix of unfiltered sports commentary, personal anecdotes, locker room humor, and industry insights.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NBA Finals: Spurs vs. Knicks – Predictions, Breakout Stars & Fan Energy

Key Takeaways:

• Massive hype for a young, dynamic San Antonio Spurs team led by Victor Wembanyama (referred to as an "alien, a beast").
• Heated back-and-forth predictions on the outcome of the Finals:
  • Deebo: Spurs in 5 (“4-1, they go win one, two, three, lose four, come back and pop them at five at home.” [07:07])
  • Joe: Spurs in 7 but rooting for Knicks (“I’m gonna say Spurs in seven. But I would like for the Knicks to win in seven.” [14:04])
• Praise for Knicks star Jalen Brunson and his impact on New York hoops culture.
• Both celebrate NBA parity and express joy at seeing passionate, young teams succeed.

Notable Quotes:

• Deebo: “They got this damn criminal alien, this monster, this beast that you can’t even justify... Ain’t no faking that. He’s hugging his teammates. He’s crying. But he’s genuine.” [08:07]
• Joe: “When you look at the Spurs, I just see each person can individually play defense and individually get a bucket... Fox, individual defense. Castle...he’s a gangster.” [11:39]
• Deebo: “The Knicks cannot handle winning a championship. The city can’t handle it. The fans can’t handle it. They’re already losing.” [13:41]
• Joe: “Jalen Brunson, if he wins this championship though, how would it make them look? Jalen Brunson will be the MVP. Huge for New York, for the market, for them for sure.” [09:58]

Timestamps:

• Spurs’ path to the Finals: [05:17]
• Wembanyama praise: [05:43–09:09]
• Finals breakdown and picks: [07:02 – 14:53]

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2. Finals Ticket Prices & Fan Experience

Key Takeaways:

• Debate about insane pricing for NBA Finals tickets—$2,000+ even for “nosebleeds” in San Antonio, over $4,200 for Madison Square Garden.
• Both prefer watching from home given the price (“You got the better seat...at the crib, right here, unlimited whatever you like.” [21:30])

Notable Quotes:

• Deebo: “Bruh, you up there looking at Wimby and he looked like he three feet.” [21:22]
• Joe: “These are all aftermarket sales... To get in the building? No, that’s too... You got the better seat at the crib.” [21:30]

Timestamps:

• Ticket price debate: [18:58 – 22:00]

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3. Betting Stories: The $2,500 to $1.7 Million Parlay

Key Takeaways:

• Discussion of a wild four-leg parlay that turned $2,500 into $1.7M after the NBA playoffs, raising the "cash out vs. ride it" debate.
• Both hosts admit they'd likely have cashed out early (“A bird in the hand, Joe. I’m cashing out $2,500 and I’m coming back with $612 [thousand].” [28:01])
• Admiration for the gambler’s guts.

Notable Quotes:

• Deebo: “I ain’t never heard of no dude talkin’ ‘bout he just wanna stay on practice squad.” [52:23]
• Joe: “All I know is, when anything looks at it says...you have a chance to win that $2,500 to win 1.7 million...I’m hearing all of that. That’s a gangster though.” [27:14]

Timestamps:

• Betting story intro: [22:48]
• Would you cash out?: [23:40–28:58]

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4. NFL: Team Nicknames & Locker Room Culture

Key Takeaways:

• The Steelers' backfield claims the new nickname “Thunder and Lightning,” sparking debate about self-appointed nicknames.
• Talk about great NFL nicknames (“Megatron,” “King Henry,” “Prime Time”).
• Lighthearted banter about “who really deserves nicknames” and the history of famous duos.

Timestamps:

• Nicknames discussion: [30:46–35:16]

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5. Shedeur Sanders Smashes Jersey Sales Record

Key Takeaways:

• Shedeur Sanders (rookie QB, Browns) set an NFL rookie jersey sales record with $17.7 million—shattering Tom Brady’s high-water mark.
• Joe recalls his own #1 jersey sales moment during a Cleveland Browns uniform change, while Deebo jokes he never got any jersey sales money.
• Both agree jersey popularity doesn’t guarantee on-field success but signals massive fan engagement.

Notable Quotes:

• Deebo: “If I made that kind of money, bro... 17 and some change off of jersey sales, bro. I might have returned!” [42:56]
• Joe: “It’s popularity and it just really shows that he’s selling merchandise. People are buying what Shador’s selling, bruh.” [42:56]
• Deebo (jokingly, on not seeing jersey money): “I don’t even know where that money went. It ain’t going to my checking account.” [44:42]

Timestamps:

• Sanders’ jersey sales revealed: [40:38]
• Joe’s own jersey sales story: [41:57–44:17]

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6. Tom Brady’s Take on Practice Squad Players – Deebo Pushes Back

Key Takeaways:

• Discussion of Tom Brady’s claim that many NFL practice squad players don’t want the pressure of promotions.
• Deebo strongly disagrees, calls it “bullshit,” and offers a passionate recounting of how hard it is to stay on a practice squad; his own desperation to get on the field.
• They highlight the grind, instability, and hunger of most practice squad athletes.

Notable Quotes:

• Deebo: “Like, it’s crazy, bro. I don’t understand it...I ain’t never heard of no dude talkin’ ‘bout he just wanna stay on practice squad. Practice squad is not guaranteed.” [52:23]
• Joe: “I think, for lack of a better word, it’s bullshit.” [51:18]

Timestamps:

• Brady’s quote and segment: [48:25–51:18]
• Deebo’s rebuttal: [51:21–53:06]

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Memorable Moments

• Deebo on Wemby: “They got this damn criminal alien…” [08:39]
• On betting angst: “If I’d have cashed out, I wouldn’t have watched the game. That’s for sure.” [29:33]
• On self-nicknaming: “You can’t give…Can’t be that...Self appointed nicknames are real not what it was expected.” [31:15]
• Joe on jersey popularity: “It’s not a bad thing seeing that...people do are very, very interested because Shador’s been good since high school, college, and now getting to the league.” [45:29]

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Episode Flow & Energy

The conversation is high-energy, back-and-forth, and full of friendly roast battles and humor. Deebo brings relentless conviction and “old-school” fire, while Joe offers balanced analysis and heartfelt anecdotes. The tone is candid, bantering, and unapologetically “locker room,” but always rooted in love for the game and its players.

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Important Timestamps

• [05:17] NBA Finals preview: Spurs vs. Knicks
• [08:07] Wemby as an “alien” and series nostalgia
• [13:41] Sharp predictions and Finals picks
• [18:58] Finals ticket prices: sticker shock
• [22:48] The $2,500 to $1.7M sports bet story
• [31:15] Steelers backfield “Thunder and Lightning” nickname debate
• [40:38] Shedeur Sanders sets NFL rookie jersey sales record
• [48:25] Tom Brady’s hot take on NFL practice squad players – Deebo’s rebuttal

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode is a fast-paced ride through current sports headlines, colored by first-hand perspectives, humor, and honest takes. Deebo and Joe alternate between insightful analysis (especially on the NBA Finals and business of sports) and relatable, hilarious stories from their own careers. Controversial moments—like when Deebo calls out Tom Brady—are handled with both passion and perspective, making this a must-listen for anyone who loves sports talk with substance and entertainment.

Transcript

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[Joe Hayden]

I'm doing great brother. Debo. Hey, where you get that hoodie from? It's mine.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

In the mail. Hey man, you know man, they don't want to get us no swag so I had to go ahead and make my own swag. I'm gonna get it to you. Don't worry about nothing man. I gotta. I got an extra medium for you baby. Yeah, they want to get it right. Hold on, let me put it up right there.

[Joe Hayden]

Love it though.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yeah, nice little something. A little something. Little something something. You know what I'm Saying, I love it.

[Joe Hayden]

I love it. Hey, how about though. Yeah, to the game though. You see, did you see the Spurs? You know what I'm saying? Advanced.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Listen, bro, I told you like I told you. I know, I know. Listen, listen. Yes, I was, I was hoping. I was hoping OKC could do it. I was hoping they could do it, but obviously they. They couldn't. They couldn't.

[Joe Hayden]

They couldn't.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Hey, man, this dude. 8, 10, 9, 10. He, dude, he. He reached his hand up and he had. Yes already, man.

[Joe Hayden]

He's dunk on his tippy toes.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

It's illegal, man. It's against the law. They need. We need the age restrict. We need a height restriction. You can't be so tall, but because it's like you gotta. He gotta play on it.

[Joe Hayden]

No, Devo, come on, man. No, that's what I'm saying.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Raise your foot up. Raise the hook.

[Joe Hayden]

You've never seen anything like Victor before, like Wimby before because he's athletic. He can move normally. When you're that tall, you look goofy. You look like you don't know what's going on. You look. You're not in control of your limbs. Victor's in control of all of his limbs. So look, shout out to SGA though. He went out there, he went hard. He dropped his 35 points. He did what he had to do. Carson Wallace, you know what I'm saying? He did what he had to do for him. Shed homegrown though, Debo, he was a little.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Listen, bro, you. What are you gonna do?

[Joe Hayden]

What are you gonna do? He's. He's seven. He said he's seven foot also. He's seven foot also.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

He ain't moving like that. Seven four, though.

[Joe Hayden]

I understand, I understand. He needed a little more Jalen. This will happen though too.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

What you think Carl Anthony Town gonna happen to. What you think gonna happen to him when they get over there? I.

[Joe Hayden]

It's go I. What you. You're thinking the spurs are going to beat the Knicks? Yes.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

That's in five, four, one. Four one they go, win one, two, three, lose four, come back and pop them at five at home.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay, see. Okay, See, I didn't know where you were going. I did.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Damn.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay. You're looking at it. It's looking like. I'm thinking the spurs are going to win also. With my heart, I'm rooting for the Knicks because I like Jalen Brunson. It would be. It would be underground.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

No, it's cause y' all got swept. That's it.

[Joe Hayden]

Because they beat the Cavs. Okay, you're right. You're right, also. But Victor, I would. This one. I don't have a dog in the fight. I can't just sit there and act like, oh, I want the Knicks to win, or I wouldn't be happy if the spurs won this one. I don't have a dog. You know what I'm saying? I'm watching as a basketball fan. I'm a fan of Victor. Did you see the way his excitement has joyed Odibo? He's 22 years old. He's young, he's happy. He genuinely was geeked to make it, like, the passion that you want to see. I'm out, okay?

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Like, he.

[Joe Hayden]

There ain't no faking that. He, like, I'm not about to sit here and act like I'm all too proud, man.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I'm making NBA Finals. He's hugging his teammates.

[Joe Hayden]

He's crying. He's like. But he's. But he's genuine. And his teammates are literally, like, happy for him. You know what I'm saying? So I see their crew. They're young. Like, all of their. The organization of the spurs, they young. Organization of the spurs is fire. I'm looking over, but this is what I'm saying.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

History go repeat itself. Now, you know what happened last time.

[Joe Hayden]

They got. Last time, they did not come.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Guess who they had. They had that man, Duncan. Now they got this. They got this damn criminal alien, this monster, this beast that you can't even justify. Give a.

[Joe Hayden]

A, a.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

A real name to it or.

[Joe Hayden]

He got that dog. He got that dog.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Hey, Listen, it was 41 99.

[Joe Hayden]

You're thinking it's going to be 41 again?

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Duncan was what, 23? This boy only 22.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, I think the Knicks. But the Knicks team wasn't playing.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I don't care what you're talking about, man. Look at this, man. Dude, all that stuff that Brunson was getting to the rim too, and laying that stuff up.

[Joe Hayden]

That shit getting swapped, that shit getting thrown.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

He throwing on.

[Joe Hayden]

Listen, they played them and they played them during the regular. The spurs won earlier.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Understand? They 2:1 in the regular season. They up.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, but that's what I'm saying, too. This one, I'm debo. I'm just trying to be on the opposite side. They've been busting people as this whole playoffs.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

11 Joe. But they rested. Look what happened when they rested against y'.

[Joe Hayden]

All.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

They was down by 20.

[Joe Hayden]

Came back, came back and got us out the way.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Spurs ain't about to have that and spurs play defense. What we talking about? They ain't about to have that spurs, they young too. They can go.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what I'm saying.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

All they need is the IV the day after and they good.

[Joe Hayden]

The Knicks need to try. They Jalen Brunson, if he wins this championship though, how would it make them look? Jalen Brunson will be the mvp. It'll be huge for the New York, for the market, for them, for show. And I think if Brunson six one he's going to be able to give everybody else a chance and I think it's going to get the team league's hope. If Wimby wins with this young squad in San Antonio, they're not going nowhere. They're not going nowhere. Cats are not going nowhere. Dylan Harper. Dylan Harper, they got young dudes. He was a rookie this year and they gave the deservingly. So my boy in the Mavericks, Cooper Flagg, he won rookie of the year deservingly. So he's supposed to. But Dylan Harper is going to be a franchise player in the league. And they got de' Aaron Fox, you know what I'm saying? They got Castle, they got champagne, they just got so many ballers on their team along with the 7 foot 6 alien. So the spurs are looking young. They're looking like this is not going to be just a one time thing. It happened earlier than I expected them to just go out there to beat Oklahoma City. Now everybody's looking like dang, okay, they're young, they can go, they can go get it. They hungry Knicks though, they've been busting teams 11 and oh in the playoffs. Averaging beating teams by 24 points a game. Like that's nothing to poo poo on.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Who been playing defense? Who been playing defense? Ain't nobody. Ain't nobody playing. And the cast really, we know they don't even know what the word defense. They, they like defense. What that is, that's, that's a new, that's a new analytic. Is that a new analytic?

[Joe Hayden]

They got dogs out there. I just, when I look at the spurs though, I just see each person can individually play defense and individually get a bucket. Fox. Individual defense. Bucket Castle. Castle. Oh my gosh, he's a gangster. I want to see when Castle gets the guard in Jalen Brunson the same way he's playing that tight defense on Shay. We gonna see. But Brunson is averaging 30 no matter what. So we gonna.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I understand what you're saying, Joe, but all that to the basket Land the heat. That man is just standing there doing this, man. He grabbing people's shit out the air. And just like, he shot the ball, he just.

[Joe Hayden]

No, no, no, no, no. He is. He is unbelievable. I'm excited about the playoffs, though, just because the way that the Knicks went through the east, not like they had to, like, struggle to get through. They spanked everybody. They spanked my Cavs.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

They spanked everybody. But they've been sitting there now. They've been sitting there now, and they gotta. They gotta play the spurs first. They. They. They gonna be coming off. Yeah, they still in their groove doing all that. They sitting. You see what happened? You see what happened when they were sitting there? They was down by 22 to y' all weak calves that they ended up sweeping. Was able to come back. Gang, you ain't doing that.

[Joe Hayden]

Let me tell you this. They spurs you, but you acting like the Knicks don't have big bodies, too. That don't play like og.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

OG knows.

[Joe Hayden]

Not sweet, you know what I'm saying, Miles.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

But they resting again.

[Joe Hayden]

They not. They get buckets. You know what I'm saying, McBride.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I understand, Joe. I understand what you're saying. But I'm just trying to tell you it's a difference, and it's going for one.

[Joe Hayden]

You saying four. One. I'm not saying four. One. I'm going to say that this history,

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

if history tends to repeat itself, Joe, is about to.

[Joe Hayden]

It's going to go at least. At least. Minimum six games. Minimum six. I say it's going to probably seven. If it's seven. Spurs and seven. Spurs and seven. I would like it to be Knicks in seven. I wanted to go seven. I'm telling you, Debo, it's gonna be ball.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

The Knicks cannot handle winning a championship. The city can't handle it. The. The fans can't handle it. They're already losing.

[Joe Hayden]

He's saying that the spurs are gonna win this series in five. That's your take.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

In five.

[Joe Hayden]

That's your.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yes.

[Joe Hayden]

Spurs in five. For Deebo. I'm gonna say what's yours?

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

What's yours?

[Joe Hayden]

I'm gonna say spurs and seven. But I would like for the Knicks to win in seven.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I don't give a damn what you like say, what it is that you say it is gonna be.

[Joe Hayden]

Because, look, there's two.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I would say this.

[Joe Hayden]

Let me tell you this. There's two different. That's what I'm saying, Debo. There is a what you will want to happen. Because if you're personal of your feeling like, oh, a feel good story of what you would like to happen and then what you think when you're looking

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

at the nothing feel good about that. That just makes you feel good. Jay, I have a about getting your ass.

[Joe Hayden]

There's some things I would want to have personally that don't. I think that realistically won't happen.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Everybody wants this. They want that. I want this. I want that. No what you think will happen. I would like to have as much money as Joe Hayden, but I don't.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay. All right. So you know what? I think that what's going to happen is the spurs are going to win the championship in seven.

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Games all right, I got five. They do it in five, man. You check out these prices right here, man. Game one of San Antonio, 2000.

[Joe Hayden]

Yep.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Game two, 2100. Now you jump over there to New York. They tripping. This is why they, they trip first. Game 4200. 4200. They said, all right. And that's what I'm trying to tell you. Like, they go, that first game is gonna be up there. But the prices go drop even further than that fourth game because they're gonna be down 3 0. But they go get that fourth game, they will come back to San Antonio. But those prices in San Antonio, they're gonna jump back up though. They go. Because that's gonna be, that's gonna be the one where they go, close it out. So everybody gonna want to be there. I might even go down there.

[Joe Hayden]

Wow.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I mean, I'm. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna be outside. I ain't gonna be able to. You know, I ain't gonna be able to get the ticket. That's that. I ain't got that. I got that. I ain't got that.

[Joe Hayden]

That's that money. I'm right there.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

They talking about game six already at 5200 in New York. Wow, Joe, these like.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I'm gonna tell you who going to the game. Who got.

[Joe Hayden]

Man, New York fans. They going. There's New York fans all over the world. New York is a big city and they got bread out there. They got paper. They letting you know what the paper look like. So you.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Three hours that don't even make.

[Joe Hayden]

Wouldn't be able look, so the. These are all aftermarket sales. So this is all like. You got to go to. You going to StubHub, you going to all of that stuff to get these.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

You saying if I go straight to the source team, they'll let me get

[Joe Hayden]

a regular ticket off? The ticket price. The ticket price is not these numbers. These are all after somebody's got the ticket.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

What's the face price? Because I know you know what the face price. I know you probably well. You probably don't even know well what it say on the ticket. What the number saying. Okay, Because I know you probably don't even pay nothing because you know you Joe Hayden.

[Joe Hayden]

But anyway, they can't say Nothing more than 250. 250, $200.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

No way. Joe. I know the face value of super bowl Texas is 18, $2300.

[Joe Hayden]

I. I don't. Don't get me lying. I don't. Because I don't know what seats these are. We're talking about court size seats.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Then I'm thinking these is the lowest prices they got.

[Joe Hayden]

The lowest price they got. So we're talking about the nosebleeds. There's no way. I don't think the nosebleed seats are going to be going for.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

They said 2100, 2100. 2000 for the noble, bruh. You up there looking at Wimby and he looked like he three feet.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, I'm. No, no. To get in the building. No, that's. That's too. You got the better seat is. I mean at the. At the crib right here, you got limited food. You had unlimited. Unlimited whatever you like.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

You don't have to move well, it's

[Joe Hayden]

kind of bathroom because, you know, I.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I can't be spending too much money.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm saying whatever you have in your

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

so much to survive. Whatever you have me. I got some water. I got some grits.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah. I'm gonna be very highly entertained watching this if the Knicks win. I will be. Look, this is. This is why I like this too. Because I'm gonna be happy either way. This is when I need my hat. I just want both teams to have fun, honestly. Okay. I'm thinking the spurs are gonna win

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

because you don't want both teams to have fun. You want New York to win so that you don't feel so bad about what they did to your Cavs.

[Joe Hayden]

No, no, no. That would. If the Knicks won. But I like Jalen Brunson. I think that the story of Jalen Brunson would be amazing. He's been working hard. He deserves it. He gave the city of New York a discount when he could have signed a supermax and waited a year and saved him $113 million. Dessert. Great. Loving the story. Let's go Brunson. You deserve it.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Why would I listen A bird in the hand.

[Joe Hayden]

I feel you.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I hear you. But I'm taking the burden of hand every time. Joe. I got to. There's no other way to do it, brother. You look at this better. He turned 2500 into 1.7 million at the first game seven win. He had a four leg parlay placed in February. February 14th. He had already cast on the US men's hockey team to win gold medal, Michigan's basketball men's basketball team to win the NCAA tournament. The next to win the Eastern Conference. And he had a cash out offer. 612000 heading into game seven.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Said he was not cashing out. Joe. Joe. Would you have cashed out, Joe?

[Joe Hayden]

Gosh, Debo. Yes. Yes, I think I would have. But this is the crazy part though.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

After they lost on.

[Joe Hayden]

I really believed. When you saw. When I saw okc. This is what I'm saying. I would have tried to at least somehow pull out a little bit of money or do something where like you

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

can't pull out a little bit, Joe. You gotta cash out the whole thing and the pack done. Or hey, I'm taking that because.

[Joe Hayden]

But look, the man. The man. The man is.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Hey, Joe. Hey Joe.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I'm only.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I'm only go. I'm only gonna pull out a little bit. She don't get pregnant.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm gonna pull out some bread and then I could Put in another. I don't, I don't know. I don't know, Diva. I think I would probably pull out because right there when I'm looking at it 2500, it's saying 612. But then I'm believing in my heart. I thought that the spurs were going to win. So then I see Jalen Williams not playing. A.J. mitchell, his backup, not playing. So I'm thinking now, okay, but still 6:12, I thought, okay, I thought the spurs were going to win straight up. And if you telling me that. And now I'm looking at the 2500 to turn to 1.7. I don't know, I think I still, when I see it, I'm pulling. I don't know. I'm flustered at this one because he's a gangster.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Do that, get taxed.

[Joe Hayden]

I, I never won that much for them to have to worry about it. So I would, I would maybe I would think so.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Damn, it's crazy. So Joe, for me, me personally,

[Joe Hayden]

you, you missed, you missed. You missed the bird in the hand.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Listen, I'm a burden of hand. So obviously I'm a burning hand dude. So here, here, here's what it is. I don't know if this was his only bet that he made. He could have made another 10, 20 bets, whatever it may did. And maybe at some point he made a different bet that had something else that combined with whatever it was.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what I'm saying.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Maybe he cashed out on that one and got. He already up. So maybe he looking at this and he like, I'm already up, I'm playing

[Joe Hayden]

with the houses, taking out 6:12. And then probably betting on the OKC game, something.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

No, I'm saying before he put in multiple bets, I'm thinking he had. You don't go and just put 2500 and say, I got these four things that need to happen. He put up.

[Joe Hayden]

This is a long. This has to. You have to wait. You have to wait.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Time. Yes, yes. So you know, like you looking at it like, I don't think this is the only thing unless he got. He believed, he believed back to the future thing going.

[Joe Hayden]

He believed.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

You know where he got a sports almanac book from the future. And he just, he's just making bets, you know what I'm saying? And he hit on some, you know, he try and miss on most of them, but then he go and bow them out, you know, every now and then for a few hundred thousand or something. Joe, if I had put like $5 on that dough I could have came away with like 30, 34, 3, 500. Yeah, I think if I just went and put $5 on everything, something like that, bro. Like, I ain't tripping, Joe. I ain't $5. Give me 35. I'm rich.

[Joe Hayden]

All I know is, I don't.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I. I could have got a ticket to the game.

[Joe Hayden]

All I know is when anything looks at it, says, okay, you have a chance to win that $2,500 to win 1.7 million. Once I see a cat of 612,000, I'm just looking 2500 to 612. I'm hearing all of that. That's a gangster, though. He had to believe I'm taking that paper. Because if Wembayama rolls his ankle during this game or Dylan Harper messing around and gets hurt. Shay buttock scores 40. Referees score, flag whistle starts going other way. They see the parlay. Somebody might call Abrah. I don't know what's going on. I don't know. I don't know. I ain't got time for that. I see a bird in the face, I'm. I'm Debo, right now. I'm burning.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I'm 12 right here to the good boy. I'm gonna tell you right now, Joe, when they went, I think he had a cash out offer before a game, before they lost, before the spurs that lost. I think it was game six. He had a cash out offer. I think it was like maybe like five or. Or six or something in. I cashed out then, bro. I wouldn't even took no chances. I might have been upset afterwards, but I don't care. A bird in the hand, Joe. I'm cashing out 2500 and I'm coming back with six.

[Joe Hayden]

You asked, you asked me. I'm cashing out. This man right here believed he is a true live gangster and he deserves his 1.7 for show. Because if it had been me, I'd have had. I'd have had 612. I had to figure out what I had to do with the taxes on it. And then I'd have went from there because it was 25.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Hey, man, he probably got $612,000 in taxes.

[Joe Hayden]

Ain't no way, Deebo. You can't, can't take the whole thing. They can't just take.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I'm talking about in the 1 7.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, yeah. So that's what I'm saying. It was 612. He got 300, but you had 2,500 and now you got 300,000 of real bread,

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Joe. It don't matter. I just. 2500 for.

[Joe Hayden]

Look,

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

If I'd have cashed out.

[Joe Hayden]

If I'd have cashed out, I wouldn't have watched the game. That's for sure.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

If I cash out, I don't. I gotta watch the game. I got to. I don't care. I'm gonna care, but I don't care. I'm a care, but I ain't gonna care. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? I got money in my hand. Hey.

[Joe Hayden]

I don't want. I'm like. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Because it's dependent, man. That. That's. Yeah. Betting that bread depending on somebody else. I'm just sitting.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I got.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah. My heart is not ready for that, bruh.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

If I'm. I listen if I went into that and I did not and they didn't win that game.

[Joe Hayden]

I see that's when you talking about. That's one of the fans. That's when people. It's not. It's not their bad. They went out there tried their hardest. So that's what I'm saying. I can't then you looking at that now. You really don't like them and they like bro, I didn't do nothing. I'm out there. But you don't know what you did. You lost me 1.7 whole time.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

1.7. What are you talking about? You ain't do nothing. That's the problem. You ain't doing nothing.

[Joe Hayden]

I did something.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yep.

[Joe Hayden]

I've been way mad. They. But I done been way mad at somebody for less. You don't understand, sir

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

man.

[Joe Hayden]

What's good bro.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Rico Dowdle, Jalen, Warren Hope Steelers backfield can make a name for itself. Their. Their new nickname is Thunder and Lightning. I don't know who gave him this nickname. Yo, Joe, I think it was a self appointed nickname.

[Joe Hayden]

They gonna go ahead and get that to the Debo.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

See what you think. You like the name? You don't like that. How you feel about the joy man?

[Joe Hayden]

Look, as long as performance based. You wanna go ahead give yourself a nickname. It's time to stand up to the nickname. We need to be Just hold up, man.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

You can't give.

[Joe Hayden]

Can't be that you can't do that. You can't. I know, I know. Self appointed nicknames are real not what it was expected. Did they. Did they give their self the nickname Debo? Do we know that or did somebody else.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I'm from my understanding it was repeated by Dotto. I Guess a couple times and I'm assuming I could be wrong that it was a self appointed sort of thunder and lightning. But I'm trying to figure out like lightning that means fast.

[Joe Hayden]

Jalen, I'm rocking with you because what is he. That's Jalen. People that did it was. It was tiki. It's. It's like tiki and what's my man and the.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

The biggest 40 time bruh. You talking about lightning. You supposed to be a. A. A high four, three, a low four, four. Different.

[Joe Hayden]

It's just different temp is different. Different types. We got a more explosive back and then we have a more speedy back. It's not saying legitimately like he is. He is quick. He is fast. And then Donald's more of a downhill more power. It's just more like you would call the Detroit Montgomery and Gibbs just.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yeah but that was Knuckles and Sonic and what about the like. We knew who Sonic was.

[Joe Hayden]

Boom.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

We know who Knuckles was. That was.

[Joe Hayden]

We know who thunder and lightning is. For us we would expect lightning is Jalen. Thunder is Rico.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I don't like that man. Thunder and lightning. Okay, here go the thunder go the lightning kick. Remember the dude did the thunder and the lightning. He kicking his foot in his leg and runoff with the rock and the one dude. I don't like thunder and lightning no more.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay. See that's what I'm saying.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

He was like he go to thunder and he was. Then he was shaking his leg. He'd go to lightning and then he would make like he'd go hit him and then he did.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, I do. I do. I do. Okay.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Run down or run off whatever it is.

[Joe Hayden]

See no they not. It's not. It's not corny. I'm thinking more of the Giants running backs when it was Tiki and what's my other. What's the big running back? What's my man's bro.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I am so hot, man. I knew I shouldn't see.

[Joe Hayden]

There you go. There you go. You better start sweating. You better start looking like I'm already sweating. Jacobs. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Jacobs. Jacobs and Tiki. Tiki wasn't four three.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

That's different.

[Joe Hayden]

Tiki wasn't four three dot Tiki was like a four four. What's. What do you think? Jalen is four five. Four five low four five. It's his burst.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

You got.

[Joe Hayden]

You gotta be a low quickness and explosiveness. I could understand what we talking about lightning because he hits the hole. Very explosive. You couldn't like he looked like he fold forward when he hit the hole. In my opinion, he does. And now with. With Rico, he's more. More. More bulky. You could tell.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Listen, bro, let's. Let's just wait till we get into the season. We get some pads on, man. We get. We get some play in there. We started seeing, like, at least some preseason. Like, let's get four games in there, just start giving ourselves nicknames now. You go out there and you start doing it now. I'm gonna be up there. Holland, Thunder, Lightning, right here.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I don't know how you get the OTA nickname, though, man. I don't know. I don't know, bro. Like, especially that one. Like, you gotta deserve somebody, you know? Like what. What. What nicknames? You don't. You done heard that. You was like, yo, that was a cool one. Or it was like, yo, that's kind of whack. What players? You. You. I ain't gonna lie. Megatron.

[Joe Hayden]

Megatron's hard.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yeah, that was hard.

[Joe Hayden]

King Henry.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yep.

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[Joe Hayden]

Who else got a nice nickname

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

that's

[Joe Hayden]

Sonic and knuckles it hard?

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I like you see the jackets though when they put the jack man. Listen bro, I was I ain't gonna lie to you man. That's it was hitting hard anyway man. Go ahead.

[Joe Hayden]

Hold on. I'm trying to figure out who I

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I like I like our our players names like Big Snack like Casey Hampton like, you know.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes. Brandon Jacobs. There it is. Tiki Barber and Brandon Jacobs. Oh, Bron Dane Seek Rondane. Thunder and Lightning. There we go. I knew I wasn't tripping.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

It was Ryan. I forgot all about Ron Dane. Ron Dane was Compton, right?

[Joe Hayden]

Downhill.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

What other names I can't think of.

[Joe Hayden]

Megatron was fire. Yeah. Yeah. I don't really know too many of the nicknames. That's. That. That's catching me right now,

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

you know.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, duh.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Still curtain, though. Prime Time.

[Joe Hayden]

Prime, obviously.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Speaking of Prime. Speaking of Prime. Joe should do shoulder Sanders. That boy cast in Shador earned a record 17.7 million in NFL Pennsylvania Group licensing income during his rookie season.

[Sheba Cat Food Advertiser]

Bro.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

He shattered Tom Brady's previous single season record high of 9.5 when he was in Tampa Bay. They said the funds were paid to Sanders LLC, SS2 Legendary LLC from May 25 through February 26. The document revealed that the biggest payment, 9.2 million, was made a few days after the 2025 draft, bruh. The change in this uniform number from 12 to 2. Fans supporting him. Fans sporting his home and away jerseys from last year will need to re up their apparel again. And that's another potential payday. Yes. He going back to the table. That's how you go back to the table. Hey, Joe. Joe. What did Joe jersey. I know you. I didn't, you know, go. Did you. What was you. I know you got some like, type of jersey.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, man. One time when we switched our jerseys when the Browns got the new. When we got our new uniforms, I. My jersey went to the number one highest, highest sold jersey in the league. I was in front of Tom Brady and everybody debo. So I had one year. Well, I spanked them and I got a nice.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

What you get?

[Joe Hayden]

But it wasn't nothing crazy like that. I got close. I probably like 700,000, something like that. It wasn't what you talking about. But I was just saying that it's the popularity. And now like you said, I'm just happy that obviously it is what it is. He's going to get all of that. And now when he's switching his jersey, I think that's the way I ended up getting in there again. The same people gonna redo that jersey that really supports Shador, gonna trade in that 12 and go get them a 2. So it's just. It's popularity and it just really shows that he's selling merchandise. People are buying what Shador's selling, bruh.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

If I made that Kind of money, bro. I don't even know, bro. They had 17 and some change off of jersey sale, bro. I might have returned.

[Joe Hayden]

See, Debo, that's crazy.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I might have been. I mean, I might have been like. I might have been like, yo, I don't think.

[Joe Hayden]

No, you're joking. You're joking. You just playing. You just playing.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yo, listen, I ain't getting no jersey sales, Joe. I ain't gonna lie to you, man. I. I had to get my people to get my people jerseys, man. I had to go get the jerseys from the team. Like, hey, man, can y' all order me some jerseys? Like, because they wasn't hard to get. It's hard to get. It was hard to get a jersey. Still is hard to get a jersey, bro. So, you know, I don't even know. I didn't even know they NFLPA gave you money for new jersey sales.

[Joe Hayden]

That's when I knew Cleveland was showing up and showing out. I knew that's why the city when we ended up selling me, I'm like, I didn't believe it, Deebo. I couldn't believe that. I was like, no, jerk, you're over Tom and all them dudes. I'm like, I got the number one jersey sale. But I knew it was because one thing fans was rocking with me, I was doing the Pro Bowls, but we switched uniforms and now we had new Browns jerseys came out. So I was the guy there. So then they really looked out. Got me a nice little. Got me a nice little check. So with Shador, yeah, it was a one time deal. I didn't make the top of the list no more. But that was a, that was a great little time. I said, oh, I didn't even know they was doing that. Damn.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

So you still, you still selling, you still selling jersey? You still, you still. You still getting jersey checks?

[Joe Hayden]

Nah, man.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

You sure you ain't getting it from the one jersey place? What's the jersey place called? Michelin Ness. Yeah, that's the only place I know right now you get my jersey from right now.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, your jersey. Oh, your jersey. 92. But they. Whenever you go to the game, 92 is all over the place because they sold out.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Hell, I don't know.

[Joe Hayden]

I don't know.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I don't know where they had that money with. It ain't going to my checking account. Somebody got it. Somebody got it. Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, my dog.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I don't even know. Yeah, maybe that was something. You know, they have practice squad players that, you know, when you was practice squad and you Went and got to the regular roster, you know, you didn't get no money. I don't know, Joe. Who knows? I don't know. I'm gonna tell you this.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm copying my shadow. I gotta. I gotta get my shirt.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Boys, y' all got that ooh wee. Y' all got that ooh wee. I don't even know what that looked like, sound like, feel like.

[Joe Hayden]

No, I'm telling you this one thing though. I'm. Do you see that, though, Deebo? The highest was Tom Brady at 9.5. Just saying he danked like 17 when

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

he went to Tampa.

[Joe Hayden]

He went to Tampa. Dude almost doubled the most highest payout, you know what I'm saying, for jersey sales. So just not trying to. People want to see him. So at the end of the day, his game's going to have to speak for itself. But it's not a bad thing seeing that at the end of the day people do are very, very interested because Shador's been good since high school, college, and now getting to the league, you know what I'm saying? It's going to take his time. Rookie season, he was out there doing what he had to, trying. I don't think that he was in the right position with the coach, you know what I'm saying? Like having the support. So now just give him a fair opportunity, let him get out there. It's still early, so I'm still not saying he's going to be the best franchise quarterback, but still, we still haven't been able to see what he's able to do with the proper talent, the proper coaching and just, you know what I'm saying?

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Practice reps. No question. No question. They better look at these jersey sales over there in Cleveland and think about that. When they start looking at who they want, they starting quarterback. The fans done told you who they want. Yeah, I mean, fans and told you who they want. Now the league told you at the

[Joe Hayden]

end of the league, at the end of the day, Debo, you know this. You got to perform on the field. The best thing to do is perform on the field. You can sell all the jerseys you want.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

How much performance has your guy done on the field in the last two years and how much has Shador done?

[Joe Hayden]

I think should. Well, Shador's had. He had seven games. He only. He's only been there for what you guy have.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

What's your guy have in the last two years, period? I'm talking about anywhere.

[Joe Hayden]

Nothing.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Okay?

[Joe Hayden]

But he's been there. Look, I'm. I'm with you, but I'm just trying to figure out that this is the reason why he's still having opportunity. Because he's under contract. He's a vet, he's done it before, and he's under a 230 million dollar contract that this is his last season.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Nah, he ain't got number 40 left.

[Joe Hayden]

They don't know, but he got four. He got 40 left.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

You already paid. You can't get back what you already paid. You can't get back that money. You can't get back that playing time. You can't get back those numbers that y' all thought y' all should have gotten. You can't get none of that. And you ain't gonna get the numbers y' all think y' all gonna get right now if they go with it. But that ain't, that ain't for me to, to make the decision of. It don't matter. I ain't gonna lie for us as the Steelers, it really don't matter who y' all go with. Still gonna give you the same.

[Joe Hayden]

Yep. Okay. I hear you. We gonna see. We gonna see. Cause you keep on talking so crazy.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I ain't talking crazy, man. I'm just speaking facts. We the Pittsburgh Studs. Fuck. We look like losing to the Browns. Stop hiring me.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

We did that. We did it. We did that. We did that a couple times over the last we. We got a whole new stuff that ain't happening no more.

[Joe Hayden]

We're going to line the ball up. It's going to be good ball.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

You understand that? It ain't happening no more. I'd rather fire and piss race Blaze before I lose to the Browns. Tom Brady revealed the overlooked reason practice squad players never succeed in the NFL. What the freak is he talking about here, buddy?

[Darrell Reavis]

I learned this again over a period of years, but there's 53 guys on the active roster and there's now 15 guys on the practice squad. So there's 68 players. But those practice squad players are important because if anybody on the active roster gets hurt, they can get elevated to the squad. Well, there were was times where these 15 guys would, would do really well in practice and they'd be practicing and you'd be like a scout team receiver. And I saw this happen a lot. These scout team receivers would come in and practice with, you know, the scout team and they do really well. And I'd be watching. I'm like, man, we got to get that guy. Like, let's get him on up on offense. He's making a lot of plays. That's Darrell Reavis. He's getting open on, like, we gotta do something. Then all of a sudden, we're like, hey, man, you're doing really well. You gotta come over here and deal with the pressure of succeeding now that you have expectation. And these guys are like, they weren't prepared for it. So whatever we saw in practice against where there was not a lot of pressure, now when they're put in a situation where there's an expectation for performance, they've never had to personally deal with that, and then they fail. And then what I realized was a lot of guys in those practice squads, they don't want to be elevated to the roster. They're very happy living this life where they could tell their family and friends, which I have no problem with that. Like, there's no problem. Like, you would just assume, though, that if you're on the practice squad, you'd want to be at the top. But the reality is, a lot of guys don't want the pressure of dealing with top.

[Joe Hayden]

I don't know, bro. I. I don't know.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I don't. I don't. Hey. I'll say this. I can't confirm or deny that statement because I don't know. He played a lot longer than me. He was. He was around a lot more guys that were on practice squad, obviously, and that's the. The feeling, or maybe they said, I don't. I don't see a guy saying that. But I don't think it's the pressure of having to perform, because everybody, at some point before they got to the league, had to perform and was under pressure. You don't get to the league without being under some type of pressure. And performance, getting all the way up to that point to be in one of the best players, you know, one of the, you know, top players to play in the NFL. So that is. I don't. Like. It's crazy, bro. I don't understand it. Like, I think, for lack of a

[Joe Hayden]

better word, it's bullshit.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Like, when I came up, bro, it was five. It was five people on the practice squad. You have your 53 active, and you had five people on the practice side. That was 58 total, okay? And I made $60,000, bro. Okay? And I got none of the rewards of getting to play in the games. I didn't even travel to away games, bro. Didn't stay in the hotel for nothing. You got none of that. You got none of that. You sat in the damn stadium. You sat in the, in the press box for the, for, for, for the games. Like, for the actual games. You wasn't even on the street. Yeah, like, they don't understand that guy. Like, so what he's talking about here, that wasn't me. I was foaming at the mouth like a rabid dog trying to get my ass out there. Like, my thing was, I was on practice squad. I knew I could play against these guys because I'm playing against the starters. I'm practicing against the starters. I'm getting to go out there every day and show that and prove to myself that like, oh, damn, I could do this. Now you get that opportunity where you get out there and you get to play an actual game. You go on special teams, whatever that may be, and now you're in a real game. So now you done built the confidence from that. Like guys who want to just stay on pray. I ain't never heard of. I never ever, ever, ever, ever in my life heard of no dude talking about he would. He just wanted to stay on practice squad. Practice squad is not guaranteed. You're just a step away from having your ass cut because they need to bring in a different body because your body don't fit what they need because a lineman got hurt or something and I can't play tackle. So what he's talking about here is I don't know what in the fiddle fattle this is.

[Joe Hayden]

I.

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