Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Are Shedeur Sanders Trade Rumors Real? + Joe Thomas on Myles Garrett Trade

Summary

Nightcap Podcast Summary

Episode: Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Are Shedeur Sanders Trade Rumors Real? + Joe Thomas on Myles Garrett Trade

Hosts: Shannon Sharpe ("Debo") & Joe Hayden
Date: June 23, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of “Nightcap” brings Debo (Shannon Sharpe) and Joe Hayden together for unfiltered, lively NFL talk, with a focus on blockbuster trade rumors rocking the Cleveland Browns. The duo breaks down Joe Thomas’ reaction to Myles Garrett’s trade, then dives deep (and heated) into swirling trade rumors around Browns rookie QB Shedeur Sanders. The show also touches on NFL wide receiver trade drama, soccer legend Lionel Messi’s new World Cup record, and a few lighter sports headlines, all delivered in the hosts’ candid, playful style.

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Key Discussion Points

1. The Myles Garrett Trade & Joe Thomas’ Reaction

• Joe Thomas’ Perspective on the Trade

  • Thomas, a Browns legend, weighs in on the difficult decision to trade star defensive end Myles Garrett.
  • Garrett (last year’s Defensive Player of the Year with 23 sacks) was the lone bright spot for fans, but the Browns only managed five wins.
  • Thomas argues it was necessary for the team’s future, given the return: “A great young player like Jared Verse...on a friendly contract...three draft choices...it puts us in a much better position for the next two, three, four years as we're in this building phase.”
    • (04:23-05:47, Sports Commentator/Host & Joe Thomas)
  • Notable Quote:

    "I'm not willing to accept the fact that we're only allowed to think that our ceiling as Browns fans is to cheer for a player who's having a good season or breaking a record. Like, I don't want to lose sight of the fact that we're still here to try to win championships."
    (04:55, Joe Thomas)

• Joe Hayden’s Take

  • Acknowledges the emotional difficulty, but agrees with Thomas: Cleveland can’t just settle for highlights and needs to build toward actual winning.
  • Notable Exchange:

    “That’s a fan. When you go to the game...That’s all you got.”
    (06:43-06:49, Debo & Joe Hayden)

  • Joe: “Right now, Miles on the team with those 23 sacks wasn’t getting us nothing but those five wins that you keep talking about. So we’re going to eventually have to make a change where we can get more players.” (07:14, Joe Hayden)

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2. Shedeur Sanders Trade Rumors – Panic in Cleveland

• Breaking Down the Report

  • ESPN Cleveland radio host Tony Rizzo reports the Browns are getting “trade calls” about Shedeur Sanders and may not go into camp with the current QBs.
  • Destinations tossed out by media: Jets, Dolphins, Cardinals, Buccaneers, Atlanta
  • Notable Quote:

    “I would lose complete faith, Debo…I would lose faith. Lose complete faith just because this is the thing.”
    (11:15-11:51, Joe Hayden)

• Joe’s Emotional, Fan-First Response

  • Genuinely upset and “pissed off” about the speculation, repeatedly stating the team hasn't even given Shedeur a fair shot.
  • Suggests the team (or media) might be talking up Sanders to inflate his trade value.
  • Debo needles: “Hey, Joe, hat on real quick. They say, I want to give you a second or first for Shedeur. What you doing?” (12:02, Debo)

• Would Joe Trade Shedeur?

  • Joe: Absolutely not—calls him a “franchise quarterback” and says the front office should see what he can do before moving on.

    • “I feel like we still haven't gave him a chance to...” (12:19, Joe Hayden)

  • Debo pushes the "GM hat" perspective, saying anyone could be traded for a 1st or 2nd round pick, especially after a 5–12 season.

    • “If I’m a GM, Joe, I’m trading damn near anybody over there for a 1 or a 2.” (12:32, Debo)

• Joe’s Argument for Patience

  • Browns need to let Shedeur play with a full set of weapons and coaching support before making a decision; plenty of QBs fizzled out prematurely in Cleveland.

  • Points out Shedeur outperformed other rookies, was drafted in the 5th but played above expectations, and deserves a legitimate opportunity.

    • “Why not give him a true valid chance with weapons around him to go out here and see what we can do?” (13:56, Joe Hayden)

  • Joe’s signal drops mid-rant, humorously reinforcing Debo’s Browns-related Wi-Fi jokes.

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3. NFL Wide Receiver Drama: Brandon Aiyuk & George Kittle

• Brandon Aiyuk’s Instagram Live (“Go Commanders!”)

  • Debo rolls a highlight of Aiyuk’s video suggesting he wants out of San Francisco, fueling trade rumors.
    (22:41, Debo)

• George Kittle Issues a “Warning”

  • Kittle describes Aiyuk as a freak athlete who still has top speed ("over 22 mph and stop on a dime"), implying teams need to know what they're getting into.
    • “You guys have fun with that, I guess.” (23:32, Kittle)

• Debo’s Take:

  • Finds Aiyuk’s trade antics “a little overboard,” questions the wisdom of trading for a player showing so much social media volatility.

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4. Soccer Segment: Messi's World Cup Record

• Lionel Messi Becomes World Cup All-Time Top Scorer

  • Messi breaks World Cup record with 18 career goals; his jersey sales (over $1 million each, $7.8 million for a 2022 game batch) astound the hosts.
  • Debo jokes:

    “I knew I should have gotten to some soccer. That boy’s jersey sold for more than I made my whole…”
    (27:14, Debo)

• Debo Begs for a Messi Jersey

  • Playful, sincere, and aware of the global magnitude of Messi’s achievement.

    “I don’t want a jersey. I want THAT jersey. Lionel Messi, I want that jersey you just wore…”
    (29:14, Debo)

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5. Oddball Sports News & Banter

• Jazz Chisholm Jr.’s Blow Pop

  • Debo reacts to MLB’s Jazz Chisholm playing second base with a blow pop in his mouth, downplaying the controversy compared to NFL safety concerns and sharing a personal (and graphic) mouthpiece story. (33:12-37:27, Debo)

• Podcast Production Chaos

  • Debo and the chat joke about Joe losing Wi-Fi, blaming it on “Browns Wi-Fi” and his deep basement, clowning on his “Nextel Hot Spot.”
  • Debo keeps the solo show rolling, enjoying power over the absent Joe and razzing both viewers and Browns fans.

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Notable Quotes

• Joe Hayden (on Shedeur Trade Rumors, 09:33):

  "Why can't we be happy for a second that we have a quarterback and now we talking about trading Shedeur? We haven't even got a chance to see if he can play."

• Debo (on Brandon Aiyuk’s social posts, 23:40):

  "The behavior is just too erratic...it's overboard...I don’t see anybody putting him in that room with the behaviors that seen over the course of the last few weeks."

• Debo (on mouthpiece hazards, 36:40):

  "When you ain’t got something in between to stop the teeth from banging together, that hurt. Make it easier for you to get a concussion, too."

• Debo (on Messi’s status, 29:59):

  "They got 5.8 trillion fans or something...It’s only, what, 7, 8 trillion people in the…like, they got all of them. Only people they don’t got, they underage..."

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Key Timestamps

• 04:23: Joe Thomas on why the Myles Garrett trade is the right move (long-term vs. sentiment)
• 06:45: Hayden and Debo debate “fan logic” vs. “front office” logic on keeping stars
• 08:10: Turning point to Shedeur Sanders trade rumor segment
• 09:33: Joe Hayden’s frustration and plea to give Shedeur a chance
• 12:02: Hypothetical—would Joe trade Sanders for a 1st or 2nd rounder?
• 13:56: Joe Hayden insists the Browns should give Shedeur a fair shot before making a move
• 22:41: Brandon Aiyuk’s viral “Go Commanders!” moment
• 23:32: George Kittle’s “warning” about Aiyuk’s trade value
• 27:14: Messi’s World Cup record revelation and jersey sales discussion
• 33:12: Debo breaks down MLB’s Jazz Chisholm Jr. “blow pop” moment
• 36:40: Mouthpiece cautionary tale from Debo
• 49:15–51:00: Debo closes out solo, jokes about wifi, fandom, and holding down the show

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Tone and Style

The episode is loose, unfiltered, and full of friendly trash talk—especially targeting the Browns, debunking media rumors, and mocking social media drama in the NFL. Debo is vibrant, irreverent, and quick to play both the straight man and comic relief, while Joe Hayden brings the volatile, passionate voice of the frustrated Browns fan (until his Wi-Fi conks out).

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For New Listeners

This episode features classic Nightcap content: NFL analysis with zero sugarcoating, innovation rumors, genuine “fan pain,” and colorful, spontaneous sidebars loaded with jokes, stories, and audience engagement.
You’ll walk away with key insights on the Browns' roster chaos, the pitfalls of NFL star management, and—if nothing else—the sense that football is so much more than just the game.

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Joe, I'm gonna, give me listen here, man. We're gonna check out what Cleveland said. Hey, Joe, we got another Joe. Joe Thomas.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[Debo]

Hey, I guess, I guess he went

[Joe Hayden]

on hall of Fame. Joe T. Yes.

[Debo]

Hall of Fame.

[Joe Hayden]

First ballot, first ballot.

[Debo]

First ballot. No question.

[Joe Hayden]

Man, crazy work.

[Debo]

I guess he, you know, he, he went on, said that Miles Garrett trade was right decision. He probably did that after he talk to me and saw what I was, you know, I think we got some sound. We got a sound. We got sound.

[Sports Commentator/Host]

Yeah. I mean, I think the news came out. It probably caught a lot of people by surprise. I, I knew there was always going to be a chance that the Browns traded Miles just knowing the situation they're in and the valuable asset that they had. But for Cleveland fans, you know, it's tough, right, because for several of those seasons that Miles was here in Cleveland, he was like the one thing we got to cheer for right last year out of the playoff hunt for a long time. But it gave us a reason to be proud as Brown Browns fans to see him chasing that sack record and to finally get it and just see the commitment that he had on the field to his team and to the city. It was incredible. So it was really hard to hear that he was traded, but it hurts everybody that Miles is not a Brown anymore. But I'm not willing to Accept the fact that we're only allowed to think that our ceiling as Browns fans is the cheer for a player who's having a good season or breaking a record. Like, I don't want to lose sight of the fact that we're still here to try to win championships. And when you look at the Miles trade, to be able to get a great young player like Jared Verse, who's a tremendous pass rusher, he was a great asset to that team. He's on a friendly contract saving money. They're getting three draft choices for Miles. First, second, and the third. Like, it puts us in a much better position for the next two, three, four years as we're in this building phase. So as you step away from the emotion of losing Miles, you realize, like, this puts the team in a much better situation moving forward. And it was the right decision. Even though it hurts.

[Debo]

Joseph.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[Debo]

Right decision, Joe. Even though it hurts. I was telling you that.

[Joe Hayden]

Joe, man, listen.

[Debo]

Telling the Joes, man.

[Joe Hayden]

Joe. Joe. Joe Thomas sound like Joe Hayden.

[Debo]

No question.

[Joe Hayden]

We sound. We sound the same. Hey, Joe Thomas was there during the times, and he speaks from being a Browns fan legitimately and the Browns hall of Fame player. So who else to understand what he's talking about? Because first ballot. First ballot. Joe Thomas is not one to play. The man was a goat in Cleveland. And so he understands what it is. He understands from the fan's perspective and from Myles Garrett's perspective, he understands where the team is right now. From a fan side of you being able to root for your team, you have Myles Garrett on your team. Cleveland Browns defensive player of the year, 23 sacks. So you always want to have the best players on your team when you.

[Debo]

No, because that's. You only want to have.

[Joe Hayden]

That's a fan. That's a fan. When you go to the game, when you go.

[Debo]

That's all you got.

[Joe Hayden]

No, no, that's not all that matter. It doesn't hurt, though. It doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt. We like this chick. We got Miles. Let's go score on offense and he still gets some sacks and we still could win. Not getting rid of Miles is going to help us.

[Debo]

We did win. Y' all won five games.

[Joe Hayden]

I understand that. I understand that, but. Because that's why trash would. Joe shut up.

[Sports Commentator/Host]

But that.

[Joe Hayden]

That's why.

[Debo]

That's.

[Joe Hayden]

Did you hear that?

[Debo]

I'm sorry, Joe.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, I did.

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[Debo]

Oh, sorry.

[Joe Hayden]

So when Joe Thomas says these things, he's speaking out of both sides. He's speaking from where he's a fan of the Browns. And you see where you wanted to have Miles and what he's done for us. And then from without Miles, what we can still get, we still get verse. We still get a friendly contract. We can still get money that we could use. We still get draft picks for the future. Cause right now, Miles on the team with those 23 sacks wasn't getting us nothing but those five wins that you keep talking about. So we're going to eventually have to make a change where we can get more players. Jared Vers can fit in the line, defense can start working offensive pieces, draft picks can hopefully start balling in different positions that we need that the defensive end. Those 23 sacks weren't getting us all the wins that we needed. So let's just try to get more. So in the sudden time, it sucks. You know what I'm saying? Because.

[Debo]

Right. You know.

[Sports Commentator/Host]

You know.

[Debo]

You know what else might suck, Joe?

[Joe Hayden]

Losing a lot of games.

[Debo]

Joe. Joe. That.

[Joe Hayden]

That.

[Debo]

That sucks. Y' all get used to that. That's not a problem. That's right. But you know what else might suck, Joe? The Browns are looking at trading Shador. According to ESPN Cleveland's Tony Rizzo, the Browns are getting trade calls on Shador. On Sanders. The radio host also said he believes the Browns will not enter training camp with their quarterback room as is. There are talks ongoing calls about the availability of Shador Sanders. Rizzle said, before adding, I'm going to say right now, for the record, I don't think four quarterbacks are going to camp on July 28. Nothing is imminent, but calls are being made. Rizzo add Joe. Joe, who is this? What's up with this? Is the radio chatter real? What's going down? Did you talk to anybody? Yahoo is saying like if they do look at trading, it's the jets, the Dolphins, Cardinals and Bucks. Might be Atlanta spot for my man. Joe. What's going on, Joe? What are you. Are you okay?

[Tab Ramos]

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[Debo]

Your wi fi frees up. What?

[Joe Hayden]

This right here? Debo?

[Debo]

Yes. I love when he do that.

[Joe Hayden]

Pisses me off. This right here pisses me off.

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Debo.

[Debo]

Why, Joe?

[Tab Ramos]

Why?

[Joe Hayden]

Because this is the stuff I'm talking about where end of the day, hopefully. Okay, if it's just radio chatter, okay? But why can't we be happy for a second that we have a quarterback and now we talking about trading Shador? We haven't even got a chance to see if he can play.

[Debo]

Let me stop for A second right here. I'll let you get back on it, but I just want to stop you for a second because this actually brings me back to what we were talking about just a couple days ago, Joe. How now Shador has got so much better and he's fighting for the position of starter. Was this an attempt to raise his trade stock? Joe, are you guys.

[Sports Commentator/Host]

Are you.

[Debo]

Is your GM so diabolical he would do that?

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Joe?

[Joe Hayden]

Huh?

[Debo]

What's. Joe, what's going on? Joe, are you okay? Joseph? Joseph? Joseph.

[Joe Hayden]

I don't know. I think it's just. I hope. I hope. I hope it's just radio talk. I hope that it's just. Just talking. Just because we don't have nothing else to talk about because it's still pre season. Because it's still preseason still hasn't came. And they're just talking because. Because they always talk about your door.

[Debo]

What Yahoo Is saying.

[Tab Ramos]

Why would.

[Sports Commentator/Host]

Why would. Why would.

[Debo]

Why would your ESPN Cleveland, Tony. Why would he just go and say that out of nowhere, brother? Why would that be a thing like they're.

[Joe Hayden]

I don't know you. You don't know you.

[Debo]

Nobody's saying that about any other. They're not saying. We're receiving calls about.

[Joe Hayden]

Things come up all the time. Things come up all the time. I just hope and pray that if they really do this and the Steelers really get. I mean, and the Browns really get rid of Shador, I'm. I would. I would. I would lose complete faith, Debo. I would lose. I would lose faith. Lose complete faith just because this is the thing.

[Debo]

Hold up, hold up, Joe.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[Debo]

Listen, listen. You will lose complete faith, Joe.

[Joe Hayden]

This is what I'm supposed to be.

[Debo]

That's supposed to be your squad. Your A1.

[Joe Hayden]

Because this is what I'm saying.

[Debo]

Hey, yo, gm.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm gonna. I'm hoping this is what I'm hoping this is not really going to happen because if we were to end up trading.

[Debo]

Hey, Joe, hold up.

[Joe Hayden]

Then that's when I stop.

[Debo]

Let me stop for a second. Gm, hat on real quick. They say, I want to give you a second or first for Shador. What you doing?

[Joe Hayden]

No,

[Debo]

no, that's the fan hat. That's the fan hat. Take that off.

[Joe Hayden]

Why the. Would I. Because I feel like. I feel like he's a franchise quarterback.

[Debo]

Oh, hey, y', all. Joe is really pissed off. Go ahead, man. But why?

[Joe Hayden]

I feel like he's a franchise quarterback. I feel like we still haven't gave him a chance to.

[Debo]

I'm a dumbass. Y' All. I don't know why. I'm sorry. He can do everything. No, I'm sorry. Go ahead, Joe. Mr. Hayden,

[Joe Hayden]

what do you think?

[Debo]

They give me a one or two? I'm trading his ass. I'm a GM, Joe. I'm trading damn near anybody over there for a 1 or a 2. But how do you put a 5 and 12 record? What you gonna do?

[Joe Hayden]

This is what I'm saying. If you trade, if you trade him for a one or a two, okay, you're gonna go.

[Debo]

Are you gonna go draft this year anyway?

[Joe Hayden]

We don't have. But let's.

[Debo]

I'm saying we. As if I was a Browns fan. I'm the gm. I don't already preface this. I'm gm. The Browns. That's like, hey, Barry is cooking. And right now he cooked up a story. He cooked up a story that his head coach went along with and said, we got a controversy. Shador didn't improve so much. We can't say Watson can take it. We gotta wait to training camp. Raise the stuff. Raise the stuff. Hey, who won't?

[Joe Hayden]

Hey, Jets, Miami, that's what you're saying. They just. Jay trying to raise.

[Debo]

I'm not saying, I'm not saying. I'm not, I'm not saying. I'm saying that's, I'm saying like that's what it could. I'm just saying this is, you know me, I think, Joe, this is what

[Joe Hayden]

I'm trying to say with this one. This is only thing I want to ask about the Browns fans too, right? We, if the Browns fans, if you don't think Shador Sanders is the quarterback. I, I under, I, okay, I, I, then, then you want to move forward, whatever. Why not give him a true valid chance with weapons around him to go out here and see what we can do. And then if this season doesn't work, then we don't have him. We drafted him. You ended up getting him. And I thought he got him in the second first round pick. We got him in the fifth round. He ended up outplaying Dylan Gabriel. Obviously, Dylan Gabriel got the first shot, didn't look as good as Shador did when he got his chances. And still with Kevin Stefanski, the coaches wasn't really rocking. I think if you have somebody that's trying to give you opportunity, wants to help you out like Cam Ward had in Tennessee, coaches want to see their players succeed. So I think with Todd Monken now, he's going to be able to at least give him a chance to succeed. You want your players on your team to succeed. So Deshaun Watson is going to have his best chance to succeed and Shador Sanders is also going to have his best chance to succeed. Browns we do have a quarterback. We had DeSean there. I don't think he's going to be the guy but we do have a quarterback under a rookie contract with weapons that we're trying to get around him. Why not? Let's see what he can do. We've been drafting quarterbacks. We keep. We got green. We drafted Dylan and Shador last year. So we're going to obviously after this season we can get another quarterback in the next draft if Shador isn't the guy. But why not? Let's see. We got him. We have a quarterback that's been working that's been trying to be a franchise. We had. We had so many different quarterbacks that aren't the guy. Like give this one a true valid shot because he did do all that stuff in college. These the quarterback that we're looking to get from Texas Tech that threw for 2,400 yards, that did all of the gambling that were looking to go get. Shador threw for way more yards and touchdowns than him in college and only thing he didn't do was interview. Well, he wasn't nice to people when they asked him questions. So that's his bad thing. So get the out of here. Let me see what he's talking about out here on the football field. And then if he doesn't, if he doesn't improve on what I saw him doing last year like the

[Debo]

Jordan froze up. Oh, thank. Hey, listen, that, that was. Listen, I'm trying to tell y' all right now. Joe was in his. He was in his feeling. He in his feelings right now I'm so actually kind of happy just because, you know, it's his spirit right now is not aligned with.

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[Debo]

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[Joe Hayden]

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[Debo]

His, his, his, his, his, his, his godly presence. You know what I'm saying? Like with his. It's not aligned Right now. And right now, that was. That was our Lord and Savior saying, hold up, slow down, son. Get it together. He go. He go. Get it together. He go. Get it together. He go. Come back and. And he'll have time to go and say, you know, have a conversation with Lord, save and say, you know what? I was out of pocket. I let my emotions, the. I let the browning of a possible situation that would be round. Get me out of character. And I think he's going to come back and he's going to realize that he has a right to be upset. His expression of those feelings could be a little less demonstrative, I should say. And I think. I think when he comes back, we're. We're going to have a. We're gonna have a. A more light, PG conversation, you know, put her GM hats on, you know, with the side of a, you know, of a fan hat for Joe, and, you know, see what's. See what's really. What's really going on. But for right now, what we're going to do is figure out, like, the jets, who. The jets got. The Dolphins, who. Dolphins got Cardinals, I mean, who they got. And then the Bucks. I don't see. I don't know about the Bucks. Bucks is one where they already got a dude sitting there. They got Baker Mayfield Center. I don't know about the Bucks, so. But the jets, that could be a possibility. It could be a possibility. I mean, Cardinals just. They just. They just strip. They just ship their boy off. I just don't see anybody giving up anything in the realm of. If it's not at least a two or one, I ain't taking it. I just don't. Yeah, I don't see. I don't see any of them teams giving up that. That much for him. And I'm not taking that little. If I'm Andrew Barrett. So I just. I. I can't. I can't. I can't fathom that. We. We. We'll get back to when Joe gets here, but I wanna. I want y' all to check out the. I guess he's still the 49ers receiver. He's still with the 49ers. Uh, Brandon, I. You know, I can't say that man's land. I. You or something like that. Uh, he wants everybody to know. Here we go. Check out the video chat. Look at this thing,

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[Debo]

What's up, everybody? I had a great Father's Day, and

[Joe Hayden]

before I lay down and go to

[Debo]

bed tonight, I just wanted to say,

[Joe Hayden]

go, Commanders, go Commander, man, go. Commanders raise hell.

[Debo]

Take him in.

[Joe Hayden]

You talking about.

[Debo]

Yeah, I don't know what's up with him. And then a little while, I think George Kittle, he issued, I guess you could say, warning to any teams interested in signing Brennan. We had that sound, too. Listen,

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the last time I saw a

[Debo]

UK was call it week six, seven or eight, I don't really know, but I used to make it a habit of mine to go out early in

[Fidelity/Nissan/Wells Fargo Ad Voice]

the morning before meetings to watch him

[Debo]

train because he was about there early. And I watched him run over 22 miles an hour and stop on a dime. So he still got it.

[Fidelity/Nissan/Wells Fargo Ad Voice]

Or at least, you know, that was a year.

[Debo]

I mean, eight months ago. So I don't really know. But, yeah, you guys have fun with that, I guess.

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[Tab Ramos]

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[Joe Hayden]

I'm.

[Debo]

Have a lot of fun with that. All right, so have fun with that. I don't. I don't know if he was telling them, like, have fun with that information I just gave you or it was a subliminal. To anybody that may be thinking about possibly doing something to acquire him in a trade or something from the 49ers, whatever that may be. I know they said distillers. No, it's not happening. Don't even worry about it. We don't. We don't do that. We're not going to do that. So for me, I'm. I'm. I would. I would have to just stay away from me. It's just too. The behavior is just too erratic. Like, you don't. You don't know what you're getting from one. From one day to the next. I don't know if it's just because he's trying to get out of there, trying to get them to release him or let him go. I think it would be a better way to. To try and do it without you making yourself look as if you got maybe a little more going on than what is. What is necessary to communicate that. I just want to get out of here. Like with the. I don't know. It's. It's overboard. That's a. Yeah, that's. It's overboard. It's just. It's just a little overboard to try and. Try and get out of there. I think especially with the last one with the. I forgot. What. Was it the belt? He was. They was gonna get the belt. I don't. I don't know. What did he say? Was it the belt or the bag? The dude messed up. Which one was. What was he saying? Chad was he saying to do get the belt or get the bag. They go get the bag or they got to get the belt. It was the belt. He said bad. I think it was belt. Which one was it? I don't remember. Anyway, whatever dude wrote it was wrong. And the understanding that I got was sort of a loose, loose cannon right now I would say. And to acquire that to your team right now. That don't make no sense. I don't. I don't see anybody putting. Putting him in that. In that room with the behaviors that seen over the course of the last few weeks. The posts and everything else. Listen, it don't matter but did Joe's come back yet? Was that. Joe ain't back yet. Okay, we're gonna jump on over here real quick. Guess we got a little bit of a soccer we got. So we gotta. We gotta. We got a record broke in. In World cup soccer yesterday.

[Joe Hayden]

So.

[Debo]

Well football as they call it. Globally messy. Is that how you say it? Messi. Messi got messy and broke a record that. Yeah, I guess. He is now the all time leading goal scorer in World cup history with 18 career goals. Messi has been the highest jersey sales for the last three years. Over a million sold each year.

[Joe Hayden]

Wow. Damn.

[Debo]

I knew I should have played a different sport. I knew I should have gotten to some soccer. Six of his. Six of his 2022 World cup jersey. So what? So for seven six jerseys that he had from the 2022 World cup game. So chat chat. $7.8 million. That boy jersey sold for more than I made my whole.

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[Debo]

that got right. And that was in 22. Listen, it's going on right now. Man. Man just broke the record with them jerseys going for what them jerseys going for. That jersey right there might go for 7.8 by itself. Let me go and talk to Messi and see how he doing. I gotta figure out where he is stand at. I gotta get me one of them jerseys. Did anybody in the chat got a direct connect from my guy? I need. I need. You know what? Let me. Let me. Let me. Let me talk to him right now. Hey, hey. Let me talk to him right now like I do Joe Burrow. Listen, except this time I'm begging. I'm begging. I'm begging. Hey, listen. I am begging for a jersey message. Just let me get. I don't want a jersey. I want that jersey. Lionel Messy. I want that jersey that you just woe and them two goals against. What's that? Austria.

[Joe Hayden]

I won't.

[Debo]

I need that jersey because I'm just such a great fan, you know? And it would mean the world to me. No, that. I need that money, bro. I ain't even lied to you. Okay. All right. I need all that. Okay. 7.8 and 22. This is 26. Did you see what the price of contracts went to? Like, gay man set and broke the record. Now, listen, this is a world record. World, World. World. Not just world. Like, listen. It's.

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[Debo]

They got. They got 5.8 trillion fans or something like that, bro. It's only, what, 7, 8 trillion people in the. Like, they got all of them. Only people they don't got, they underage. They ain't. They just don't know yet. That's it. That's it. Lionel Messi. Listen, call your boy. Hit me up. I'm gonna hit you up. Whoever got contact to him, give me a contact who? You say you got him on speed down where that. You got him on speed? Die. Listen, DM me. DM me on the ig. Get us connected. Hold up. Let me check my IG right now. I think. I think I might be able to message him. Let me see if he hit me up yet. Chat. Y' all tagging. Y' all tag messy and telling me, hey, Debo need that jersey. Tell him yes, tell it. Tell him Debo broke. He down bad in these streets, okay? WI fi down bad. We need. We need everything we can get. Joe. Hell, I. I. Joe still ain't came back. I don't even know where he at. He might.

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[Debo]

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[Joe Hayden]

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[Debo]

He might need. He might need something too. I think maybe. Hey, maybe Joey had like I thought he had. I don't know. I don't know. You know what I'm saying? I just. Who knows what's going on, man? Hold up, hold up. What we got here? WI fi.

[Sports Commentator/Host]

He said.

[Debo]

He said the WI Fi out. All right, well, we go see. Call on the phone, Line up. Hit me up, though. I'm texting Joe, y'.

[Fidelity/Nissan/Wells Fargo Ad Voice]

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[Debo]

I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm trying to get him back.

[Tab Ramos]

Chad.

[Debo]

I'm trying to get him back. They said. They said. They said he got hit by a tornado. Y' all trying to. Y' all trying to kill my boy now Y' all tripping. Hey, listen, it don't matter. Joe is in brick. Joe is in a brick house. The big bad wolf. That boy is in a brick house. He got.

[Fidelity/Nissan/Wells Fargo Ad Voice]

He got.

[Debo]

He got a basement that's two stories below normal basement. That boy got a bunker over there. I ain't worried about it. I don't even worry about it. Now, if you were sitting over there in Mexico. Yeah, I made him. Yeah. Yeah, he stuck like Chuck. Stuck like Chuck without anything going down. Look here, what I want to check out, though, is why my dude over here, Chaz, what is that? Jazz Chisholm Jr. Is playing second base with a. With a blow popper. He got a blow pocket in his mouth. Where the picture at? We can't. Oh my goodness. You got the picture. We can't show the video, huh? Damn it. Damn it. I don't think it's no different. That's green apple. That's our apple blow pop. I know that. I know that right there.

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[Debo]

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[Debo]

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[Erin Andrews]

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[Tab Ramos]

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[Erin Andrews]

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[Debo]

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[Joe Hayden]

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[Debo]

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[Erin Andrews]

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[Debo]

Rock, paper, scissors.

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[Debo]

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[Joe Hayden]

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[Debo]

Yeah, for sure.

[Joe Hayden]

I don't.

[Debo]

I don't know why this is a big deal. I think they chew gum and spit seeds and all that, right? Like he gotta. Like they always chewing. So I don't know why this is a big deal. And I'm pretty sure he ain't sitting there just holding the pop in his mouth while they. They about to bam the ball. He got to drop his hands down and be ready to go. This is in between. This in between pitches. I don't. I don't see no problem with it. I don't see no problem with it. Hell, you can't do that in football, though. See? Reason you can't do that in football. You got a mouthpiece. And you can't sit there at no time on the field and make like you putting something else in your mouth besides that mouthpiece. Some people don't wear one, but it's very, very, very, very, very, very few. And far in between. Now I'm tell you why, when you hit and you ain't got something in between to stop the teeth from banging together. That hurt. Make it easier for you to get a concussion, too. Far easier for you to get a concussion. And on top of it, we don't wear a mouthpiece. Accidentally didn't wear my piece one time. I damn near bit my whole tongue off.

[Joe Hayden]

My, my.

[Debo]

Like the whole tip of my tongue, it had a good three split teeth straight through it. I could see through that thing. I could do my tongue like this, and I could see two of them. Like, you don't wanna. You. You don't want to play that game. And see, I'll be telling my son. He'd be like, okay, I need. I need. I need to be able to talk. And. No, dude, listen, go get. Go to the dentist, get you a faint mouthpiece that's gonna stick in your mouth. And you ain't got to worry about it falling out that way. You ain't got to sit there and. And pop it in. No, it's gonna be so hard for you to get that thing out your mouth. It's gonna be easier just to sit it in there, drink water and everything else without even taking it out. That way you don't take a chance of knocking. And you could chip a tooth. You could chip a tooth like that. That don't. That. That don't make no sense. And when it ain't fitted right, if it ain't fitted, sometimes that thing fly out. Especially if you, like. Like you. You don't realize how much you grunt and scream and yell and talk. Like when you. You hit somebody. I didn't know it either until, like, they mic me up one time. I didn't know they mic me up. I ain't let them make me up no more, though, because I was seeing something crazy. I was seeing some crazy stuff. I didn't even realize what I'd be saying. Like, I wasn't a talker, but if somebody said something to me, I was gonna crash out. And then if they kept talking, I was ready to go ahead. And we could see after the game, like, I had problems like that. That's just, you know, that's just what happened. So, like now when they, you know, they. They. Well, they used to, like, tell you, like, all right, you might. And I would never let them. Like, I'm like, no, I ain't. Like, you ain't putting the mic on me. So what they would do is they would just put it in your shoulder pads. But I was always a person that I taped my own shoulder pads. So when I came in and my shoulder pads was taped already, I'm like, yo, what is this? Of course, I peel the jersey up. And they got out. I peel all that. I peel all that up out of there. They had a mic on me one time, and I was saying. I was saying some crazy stuff. I don't. I don't remember everything I was saying, but I didn't like what. What I heard. It wasn't. I didn't realize I said some things that I said. So I. I didn't. I didn't let her mic me no more. Most of the stuff they get now is probably from somebody else's mic that they done heard or they got after that was probably from somebody else's mic that they heard just through the echo of whatever it was I was saying. Like, I don't know, this happens, you know, for. For other reasons that I don't know. Look here, it do not look like Joe is going to make it back. And we are already at that point to shut down. Ladies and gentlemen, chat, chat, chat. Y' all talking about. Thank God. I'm talking about Joe on the next tail, Hot spot. Joe on the next tail, Hot spot. Stop it. Stop it, dude. Next tail even around no more, man. Oh, I know you. Oh, you old as me, bro. I don't even know who that is, but you old as me. I'm trying to tell you right now, bro. I'm trying to tell you right now. You are. Listen.

[Tab Ramos]

Oh, no.

[Debo]

T boat, T mobile. T mobile ain't bad like that. You know what I'm saying? It doesn't with. Hey, hey, hey, listen. You damn right. Hey, hey. Debo held the show down for so. For show for show. Listen, man, I'm trying to tell y', all, this ain't the first time I done held it down now. Now look here, man, it's a hundred. It's 188 in there, man. We only got 126 likes. Like, we need to see the like shine for you boys, and we need to get it right so, you know, we can get Joe back and get him back up getting, you know, getting the proper WI fi, you know, like what we talking about? Well, we got hexadec, $2. He said subscribe or Debo go whip your ass. Hey, listen to him. Like, download, subscribe. Listen, Geraldine. Hey, you. You 100, right? That is. That. Is that Brown's WI fi, You know, he can't help himself. Everywhere he go, he just. He just wants to take what he has left in Cleveland, which is horrible. Bad stuff with him. WI fi, I guess, is one of the things he took with him. You know, he went on here and like, I don't know what's going on that y' all said. Y' all said he headed the wing spot for some WI fi he had. He added to the wing stop for some WI fi. Okay, okay, okay. Listen. Hey, Mike. Mike. Lazy ass viewers. Wow.

[Sports Commentator/Host]

Wow.

[Debo]

Look here. Oh, ain't no poor Joe. Joe knew what it was when he got himself into this situation. Joe Rich is a. He got so much money. He got money so tall. He make all the. You know what I mean?

[Fidelity/Nissan/Wells Fargo Ad Voice]

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[Debo]

Look here, I'm trying to tell y'.

[Joe Hayden]

All.

[Debo]

Don't y' all feel bad for your only time y' all want to. Y' all need to feel bad for Joe is when. Never feel bad for Joe. Don't never feel bad for Joe. Feel bad for Joe. Maybe when. I don't know, when the Browns lose. I just feel so good. I don't care. You know? You know, listen. Raider. Raider J420. What you talking about? He started talking. He started. He started talking about the Browns. And you know, God don't like. Listen, the Browns suck. The Brown suck. He was just telling the truth, but he was saying it in a way that was un. Godlike. You can. You can. You can be corrective without being demonstrative and. And dropping F bombs. Joseph. Joseph doesn't do that. That's not Joe. Joe does not do that. And you know what? I know Mama Hayden was watching. He got lucky that God saw it to a cut out his WI fi because I'm gonna tell you right now, Mama Hayden probably over there whooping his ass right now. Listen, just cause you grown don't mean ass whooping. Stop it just mean you escalate. She gotta escalate. She's probably over there with a stitching cord right now. Stitch cord right now. That's probably why he can't answer the phone. She got there. He was trying to get back on the WI FI on his phone because, you know, I don't know what service he got, but I'm pretty sure the phone probably. Probably would have worked. It could have worked. I don't know. Joe might just. And then he real deep underground. But somebody did say a tornado came. So I. I don't know. Listen, we're gonna have to check on Joe to make sure. Like he. All right. Okay. So listen, I'm just telling you. Everybody know that like, Joe is a 100 pure, un adulterated man. Browns fan, okay? He can't help himself. And it's in his heart and soul. Okay? So when you had that much commitment to a base, to an organization, it hurts. It hurts more. You don't understand. And when you do this. And when you do this brings you deeper in. And now it brings you in even deeper because you're not a part of it. You see what I'm saying? So when you do that, you don't even have no control. So now you don't have no control and you get out of control. Joe. Joe was out of control today. I'm just saying what it is. And to all the Browns fans, y' all gotta understand what he said. He didn't really mean it like that. He meant it in a more constructive way than what it was presented, but he was just so distraught and upset about the situation that he couldn't form beautiful sentences that didn't have certain things, letters, words, f bombs flying through it. Because I know that's not Joe. And until, you know, we get a chance to talk back to him and get him back on here, obviously we're gonna get him up. We're gonna set up with some Stiller WI fi because that. That Brown's WI fi, that it don't work. Or maybe, you know what, you got the radios and the radios that work, like, supposed to, like, work across the country. And I could get him a radio. That way when that shitty ass service he got break down again, y' all can hear him. And I could. I could just put him on here on the radio and I'll give that to him when I see him next time. Or I may just mail it to him. No, I ain't gonna mail it to him because then if it don't make it to him, I end up having to talk to somebody I don't even know because I ain't gonna throw it away. You know, I ain't gonna waste no money. I'm just gonna end up talking to somebody. I don't know if they end up getting and keeping it. And we just gonna have a, you know, we're gonna have a. A CB PAL conversation until we don't have it no more. Or he. I don't know. I just ain't gonna waste the money. So I'm just letting y' all know that. But what, you know, what I'm gonna say, guys, is I wanna. I wanna thank you guys for joining us on this episode. Devo and Joe, we got 190 in the chat right now. We got 139 likes we missing. We missing. We missing 51 of you guys right now. Go ahead. Like that episode. Like this episode. I want to see it go up right here with my eyes on it. Chat, chat. Get on their neck. Exactly. That's what I'm getting. I'm getting him that CB radio. I'm getting him the CB Radio. But it's. It's supposed to be like something else where it's supposed to go all the way across the country. So it got a bigger. It got a bigger. Got a bigger reach, a longer reach. So we go see. We're gonna see how I go. We're gonna see how I go. Okay, but I'm trying to end the show. Y' all keep talking to me, man. Y' all can't keep talking to me, man. In the chat, man. Listen. Yes, of course, listen. It is. Listen. It's not a fair fight. True statement. Me fighting Ultra. It ain't a fair fight. Just let it go, man. Let it go. He let it go. I let it go. We let it go. We go. Let it go. I hope you don't say nothing.

[Joe Hayden]

I really do.

[Debo]

I really do. I hope you don't say that, because then that make me. Going to my bag, and then that make. You know, I still. I'm fighting for my life over here. You know what I'm saying? I'm just. I'm fighting for my life because I'm still trying to. I just. I'm new into this, you know? I'm new to my walk with my Lord and Savior, so I'm like a baby into it. So I still got the little red dude sitting here. You know, He. Every now and then when I get into my bag, overthinking, thinking, and then people say things and they. You know, and I'm trying not to let.

[Joe Hayden]

He. He.

[Debo]

He jumping in my ear. And then I gotta. I got my. Got my little.

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[Debo]

My little. My little white guy over here.

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[Debo]

Little white suit dude over here. He like, hey, hey, don't. More God like. Gotta be more godlike. Gotta be more Godlike. And it calms me down. You know what I'm saying? It makes me. Okay, all right. I hear you. I hear. I understand. I respect it. Okay? Hey, and it's. It's a true fact. Browns do suck. I love this, because. Can't nobody fight back. To me, Chat Brown suck. Can't nobody fight back. Joe can't fight back. Hey, satellite phone too. No satellite phone costs too much. I ain't got that kind of money. Maybe I tell Joe. Joe, I don't know. I don't know no more Joe because he ain. He can't even.

[Sports Commentator/Host]

He can't even get.

[Debo]

He can't even get correct WI fi. He can't even get the correct WI fi. I don't even know what you want me to do. What you want me to do. Hey, look here, man, I gotta get up out of here though. No, look at. I want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you like subscribe and download where you get your show. Joe. Hey, we'll be right back here on Friday. See y' all then.

[Erin Andrews]

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