Nightcap Hour 3: Minnesota Lynx LOCKED IN for PLAYOFFS + Ben Simmons TEASES NBA RETURN + BIG 3 Week 7 RECAP

Summary

NIGHTCAP HOUR 3: Minnesota Lynx LOCKED IN for PLAYOFFS + Ben Simmons TEASES NBA RETURN + BIG 3 Week 7 RECAP
Shay Shay Media & Playmaker | August 10, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)

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Episode Overview

In this energized Nightcap Hour 3, Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, and Joe Johnson dig into some of the hottest current sports stories:

• Minnesota Lynx securing the first WNBA playoff spot
• Ben Simmons teasing an NBA return
• A deep-dive recap of Week 7 in the BIG 3 basketball league
• Plus, wide-ranging Q&A covering boxing's future, NFL/WR debates, breakups, and pop culture—delivered in the hosts' signature unfiltered, lively banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ben Simmons Teases NBA Return (02:20–04:52)

• Ben Simmons’ Comeback Post:
  Ben Simmons hints at a return to basketball, reflecting on his journey:
  “I embrace all of it, every chapter built something in me that I couldn’t have built any other way.” (Host 2 quoting Simmons, 02:25)
• The Panel’s Take:
  • Joe Johnson:
    Believes Simmons could still carve out a career, but no longer as a point guard:
    “It’s still a chance that this young man can come back to the NBA and play...But to be the number one pick and you not a scorer in today’s game...It’s difficult, bro.” (Joe Johnson, 02:48–03:36)
    Simmons’ reluctance to shoot “will always haunt him.”
    Suggests Simmons could shift to a role like a power forward or small-ball center, using his rebounding and defense.
  • Ochocinco:
    Skeptical Simmons can fill an enforcer role like Isaiah Stewart:
    “But hey, Isaiah Stewart is an enforcer. Ben Simmons ain’t that.” (04:25)
  • Host 2:
    Cautions Simmons:
    “Get your butt in the gym. If you gonna come back, come back. If not, just move it along.” (04:39)

Notable Quotes

• “The only thing, man, that’s gonna always hunt this young man is the fact that he won’t shoot that damn ball, man.” – Joe Johnson (03:09)

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2. Minnesota Lynx Locked in For WNBA Playoffs (04:58–08:17)

• Lynx Clinch First Playoff Spot:
  Kayla McBride sets a new WNBA record for threes in a game (10 made, 43 points).
• Team Analysis:
  • Olivia Miles, standout rookie:
    “She make the game look easy, bro. Like...damn, why the game look so easy when she played?...Olivia Miles got it, man.” (Joe Johnson, 07:51)
  • Team Chemistry & Leadership:
    The addition of “Fee” (Napheesa Collier) after injury strengthens defense and leadership.
    “Minnesota got everything you could want in a squad, bro. They got great defenders, scores, playmakers. They in the driver’s seat right now.” – Joe Johnson (06:39)
• Comparison to League Greats:
  Olivia Miles is called “the best rookie I’ve seen since Candace Parker.” (Host 2, 08:30)

Notable Quotes

• “I don’t really see no team messing with this Minnesota team right now.” – Joe Johnson (05:49)

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3. BIG 3 Week 7 Recap & Playoff Picture (09:44–15:54)

• Dallas Power’s Dominance:
  Dallas beats Chicago Triplets 50-40, secures top seed. Monroe puts up 16 & 13, Stewart adds 16.
  • “Chicago heavily depends on Montrezl Harrell...When he ain’t playing great, it’s hard for them to win.” (Joe Johnson, 10:17)
• DMV Trilogy:
  Closes with a “statement win” over LA Rise.
• Miami 305 Sneaks In:
  Lance Stevenson (25 pts) and Michael Beasley (20 pts) combine for a comeback wild-card, and are now "the team nobody wants to see."
  • “They fought and clawed...just to get in this postseason. Lance and Beasley locked in, bro.” (Joe Johnson, 12:56)
• Detroit Ends on a High:
  They spoil Boston’s plans—playing "spoiler" feels good even when out of postseason, says Joe.
• Playoff Matchups:
  • Dallas vs. Miami
  • Chicago vs. Boston

Notable Segment: Playoff Picks (14:14–14:59)

• Ochocinco: “Miami. You already know.”
• Joe Johnson: “I think I’m going to lean toward Dallas.”
• Ochocinco: “That’s why Miami gonna win, because you leaning towards Dallas.” (14:44–14:59)

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4. Extended Q&A & Open-Ended Debates (21:31–52:39)

Boxing: How Can It Be Saved? (22:10–28:14)

• Hurdles:
  Fighters don’t want to risk their undefeated records; need bigger purses to make risk worthwhile ("gotta protect that zero").
• Old School vs. New Era:
  • Nostalgia for Sugar Ray Leonard, Hagler, Hearns—today’s fighters less willing to fight the best.
  • “The only guy that seemed like he’ll fight anybody, Ryan Garcia.” (Host 1, 25:16)
  • “Everybody wants to be Bud (Crawford) or Mayweather, but one thing about Bud, he fought.” (Host 1, 25:45)

NFL/WR Toughness, Talent Debates (29:01–34:13)

• Comparison of division rosters, toughness and WR play—Heinz Ward’s legacy and “violence with a smile”.
• Lighthearted “Start, Bench, Cut” of Hollywood icons: Halle Berry, Angela Bassett, Pam Grier.

Relationships & Breakups: The Financial Angle (44:35–50:51)

• Ochocinco’s unique view on letting go:
  “When it’s time to break up, I always think about the money I’m saving. It’s still an expense no matter what. If I’m losing added expense, why the hell am I chasing the bill?” (Chad Johnson, 45:03–46:28)
• Joe Johnson: Emphasizes experience is the teacher:
  "It took experience for you to get to that point."

Fan Appreciation & Closing Thanks (51:40–53:31)

• Hosts express deep gratitude to the Nightcap fanbase:
  “It’s comments like that...I wish I had a thousand tongues to tell you just how thankful I am.” (Host 2, 52:39)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “The only thing that’s gonna always hunt this young man is the fact that he won’t shoot that damn ball, man.” – Joe Johnson on Ben Simmons (03:09)
• “Minnesota got everything you could want in a squad, bro. They in the driver’s seat right now.” – Joe Johnson (06:39)
• “Miami. You already know.” – Ochocinco on his playoff pick (14:20)
• “They fought and clawed...just to get in this postseason. Lance and Beasley locked in, bro.” – Joe Johnson (12:56)
• “When it’s time to break up with somebody, I always think about the money I’m saving.” – Chad ‘Ocho’ Johnson (45:03)
• “It took experience for you to get to that point, though.” – Joe Johnson (49:52)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 02:20 — Ben Simmons teases NBA comeback
• 04:58 — Minnesota Lynx clinch playoffs, Kayla McBride’s record
• 09:44 — BIG 3 Week 7 results & playoff preview
• 14:14 — Hosts’ playoff pick debate
• 21:31 — Listener Q&A starts
• 22:10 — How do we save boxing?
• 29:01 — NFL/WR talent & toughness
• 44:35 — Relationship/breakups: Ochocinco’s financial perspective
• 51:40 — Fan appreciation & heartfelt closing

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Episode Tone & Style

The conversation is authentic, loose, and animated. Shannon and Ocho’s camaraderie and Joe’s basketball insight make the breakdowns rich and accessible. The show moves effortlessly between serious sports analysis, locker-room style debates, and hilarious, candid life talk—anchored by honest reflections and audience engagement.

Ideal for anyone wanting rapid, informed, and thoroughly entertaining sports discourse—plus some classic Ochocinco wisdom on relationships and plenty of jokes along the way.

Transcript

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[Host 2]

Today, Ben Simmons posted a photo of himself teasing a comeback. He wrote, I wouldn't change the story. The highs, the lows, the Pain, the time, the lessons. I embrace all of it, every chapter built something in me that I couldn't have built any other way. Grateful for where I've been, proud of where I stand, ready for wherever this goes. Simmons last suited up for the clippers in the 2024, 2025 season. Joe,

[Host 1]

what's really going on?

[Joe Johnson]

I think if y' all want me to be honest, it's still a chance that this young man can still come back to the NBA and play. Now, will he come back and be a point guard at 6:10? No, but you talking about being one of those power fours or even playing some center, Uncle Ocho, to where when you rebound the ball, you could push it. It's almost like a fast break. Cause I think he'll still be a pretty good defensive player. Yeah, but the only thing, man, that's gonna always hunt this young man is the fact that he won't shoot that damn ball, man. That's gonna always hunt him, bro. That's gonna always hunt him. Because I think I. I think he's. He's a hell of a playmaker. He's a hell of a player. But to be the number one pick and you not a score in today's game. It's difficult, bro. It's difficult. You don't think he got a chance?

[Host 2]

Hard to be a liability now on offense, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, your liability is over with. That's why I say he can't come back and play the point guard. He can come back and be like a four man to where, you know, screen roll to the basket, play making the little dunk and little short roll in the dunker spot. You know, if you get the rebound, you push it. You able to playmate. But to be a whole point guard like he was, or where he facilitating and bringing the. Nah.

[Host 2]

Can he be Isaiah Stewart?

[Host 1]

Can he play that role?

[Host 2]

Get some rebounds, put backs?

[Joe Johnson]

You gotta have some dog in you for that.

[Host 2]

Well. Well, I guess you gotta be over there holding up fish.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, well, I got you going fishing. I guess so. You. They. Hey, that job Isaiah Stewart got, bro, you got to bring your lunch pail every damn day. You can't be playing.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

But, hey, Isaiah Stewart is an enforcer. Ben Simmons, ain't that.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, absolutely right.

[Host 2]

Yeah, I. I just don't see it a bit, bro.

[Host 1]

Teasing and all.

[Host 2]

This leaves life lessons, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Dang.

[Host 2]

No, bro. Get your butt in the gym. If you gonna come back, come back. If not, just move it along.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on back.

[Host 2]

Times and riddles and.

[Host 1]

And

[Joe Johnson]

that's Today's era, huh? That's how they move.

[Host 1]

Minnesota is locked in for the WNBA playoff.

[Host 2]

The Links are the first team to secure a playoff berth. Kayla McBride breaks the NBA record for the WNBA record for the most threes in a game. She made 10, if I'm not mistaken. She was 10 of 14. Scored a career high 43 points. Here's a closer look at McBride's record breaking effort. She was shot 7 of 7 on contested field goals for 18 points, 9 of 14 on open looks for 25 points, 15, 19 for 41 points off of. Teammates passing included 8 or 9 from field goals off of the spectacle. Olivia miles for 22 points. She shot 9 of 13 for 27 points on catch and shoot attempts. Perfect 5 or 5, 14 points with paid Beckers as the primary defender. Right now, they're the prohibitive favorites.

[Sports Announcer]

Oh,

[Host 2]

prohibited.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna keep it real with y'. All. I don't really see no team messing with this Minnesota team right now. It ain't even just Olivia Miles as a rookie doing her thing. You see Kayla McBride doing her thing. But Fee, since Fee came, they don't got feedback.

[Host 1]

Yep.

[Joe Johnson]

It ain't even Ocho. Fee, she the one. She won the one on one tournament. Not last season, but the year before. Yes. In my. In Miami. In. In the. What's that league.

[Host 1]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Rival.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, in the rival league. She won that. So, look, she got hurt, but she came back. She can go. I ain't even talking about just offensively. Uncle Ocho, man, I watched him play against the Aces. She did a hell of a job in guarding Asia. Like she can shoot the three like. She's a hell of a leader, Joe,

[Host 1]

not to cut you off. Unrivaled. That's the name.

[Joe Johnson]

Unrivaled. Unrivaled. She's a. She's a hell of a leader. Hey, man, Minnesota got everything you could want in a squad, bro. They got great defenders, scores, playmakers. You right. They in the driver's seat right now, bro.

[Host 2]

I know. Dallas is kicking themselves in the butt for taking Az Fudd over Olivia Miles.

[Host 1]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

But see, that's something you can't. You couldn't really see that, though.

[Host 2]

No, you could see that she could pass the ball like that. But, you know, hey, look, you didn't

[Joe Johnson]

think she was gonna come. You ain't think Olivia Miles coming into the WNBA doing. What she doing now, though.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Well, she was doing it in college.

[Host 1]

If you watched her. If you watched her, she was getting triple doubles. Cause they seemed like that at tcu?

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, she was balling. Don't get me wrong. I seen her. I seen her play. I seen her. But what she doing out here, huh? But what she doing in this wnba?

[Host 1]

Yeah, but you. But I think when I see like

[Host 2]

that, and then the game is more

[Host 1]

open because there ain't nobody running no 2Z2, no 2, 3 zone. They ain't running no 131 stuff like that. So she gonna be able to play in. She gonna be able to operate in space, and she got wiggle. She can handle the ball. Yeah, man, you see how easy she be getting downhill?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, she. Not only can she handle the ball, man, her IQ for the game OO is so high. I'm talking about some of the passes she made. She make the game look easy, bro. Like when you watch people play and you see how comfortable they look out there, and you like, damn, why the game looks so easy when she. When she played or he played, bro. Olivia Miles got it, man. She got it. She got it, bro.

[Host 1]

Plus.

[Host 2]

Oh, Joe.

[Host 1]

What. What does she have now?

[Host 2]

She got better players, so.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Just can't gang up on her.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello. Hello? Now.

[Host 2]

It's gonna be. Look, right now, they're the prohibited favorites.

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[Host 2]

And she's the best rookie that I've seen since Candace Parker.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Candace was a monster.

[Host 2]

Candace1 was MVP as a rookie.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And I think she won defensive player of the Year also as a rookie.

[Joe Johnson]

She had it all, man. And her height and.

[Host 1]

And.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

And.

[Host 1]

And it's gonna be close, I think. I think the voting is going to

[Host 2]

be close between Asia.

[Host 1]

I think Asia's gonna win the mvp and. And I think she gonna win defensive

[Host 2]

Player of the Year again.

[Joe Johnson]

You think so?

[Host 1]

Yeah. She's leading in points. She's second at rebounding.

[Host 2]

She's like, first or second in field goal attempts, she's first in blocks.

[Host 1]

She's like, third in steals.

[Joe Johnson]

Sound like MVP numbers to me. Yeah, yeah.

[Advertiser Voice 3]

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[Host 1]

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[Host 2]

They suffocated her on defense.

[Sports Announcer]

They did.

[Host 2]

They did an unbelievable job on her.

[Host 1]

Fee, you know Fee is the defensive player of the year. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't like, oh, oh,

[Host 2]

man, I can't believe he did.

[Host 1]

Y'.

[Advertiser Voice 5]

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[Host 1]

Y' all don't really. Do y' all realize who Fee is?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I told you, I've seen the defense you played on. On Asia.

[Host 1]

The Dallas. Now it's time for our big three recap.

[Host 2]

Week seven, Joe Dallas Power beat the Chicago Triplets 50 to 40, the number one seed was on the line. Dallas answered the way they have all season, 45 points for, excuse me, 45 rebounds to 28, 18 of them. Offensively, Monroe went 16 and 13 like it was 2012. Elijah Stewart added 16 to cap an MVP caliber year. And Dallas heads to the playoff as the top seed. Joe, man, I told you. Are you surprised Dallas won?

[Host 1]

Seemed like they won fairly easy.

[Joe Johnson]

No, I'm not surprised. See, Chicago heavily depends on Montreal hero. You know, he was averaging 36 points a game. So you know, like if he. If he. Yeah, if he ain't playing great again. Oo. Which he was 10 for 23 today with 24 points and that was pretty much it. You got power, who gonna have at least three guys and double figures. Greg Monroe 16, Elijah Stewart 16 and Cameron Smith had 12. But TJ Klein plays hard too. Collectively as a, as a team, as a unit, they're a much better team than Chicago Triplets. See Chicago triplets, they have to be heroic with Montreal just to win a game, man. It's hard to play at that level for extended period of time throughout the whole entire season. So I expected him to come down to earth a little bit and if the mother guys don't chip in, yeah, it's gonna be hard for him to win.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, the Miami team still in it, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, boy, they hanging on. They hanging on if we talk about

[Host 2]

them in a second. DMV Trilogy beat the LA Rise 51 34. Earl Clark closed this season 23 points, 13 rebounds and a statement win. DMV hit nine threes, defended everything and held the LA to 34 points for LA. It was a sad ending to a season that started with so much promise. All the preseason hype, the roster everyone circled in June never quite came together.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, they didn't, man.

[Host 1]

What h. What happened to the riot?

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know. They got off to a decent start. I thought Jordan Crawford was going to be in the MVP race this year cuz he a bucket getter, but I don't know, man, the chemistry just wasn't that great this year. For whatever reason, after them first, I think two games of the season, they

[Host 1]

kind of know they beat. They beat. Remember they beat Miami.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They tape it off. They tape it off. Ever since then, DMV trilogy didn't have the season that I'm sure they wanted to have. But you know, Stephen Jackson gonna have some dogs over there, bro. They. They were solid. I don't know. I don't think they. I don't Think they gonna make the postseason either, but I think they did.

[Host 2]

No, the Miami. The Miami 305 beat. The Houston Rig had 5140 right off Miami at your own risk. After Rocky season, guess what? They're back. Lance Stevenson. Michael Beasley scored 45 of the team, 51 points. Lance dropped. Lance dropped 25. B dropped 20. And Miami is officially the 4 seed and the team nobody wants to see in August.

[Host 1]

Yeah, you said this.

[Host 2]

You said, hey, if they make the playoffs, ain't nobody want to see them.

[Host 1]

And they got.

[Host 2]

They're playing their best basketball at the right time.

[Joe Johnson]

They are. What they'll tell you, man, Beasley and Stevenson, bro. When they play at this level, Uncle Ocho, it's gonna be tough to beat them. Now, they. They fought and they clawed throughout this whole season just to get in this postseason. Just getting this playoff. And I'm sure it's a lot of other teams out there who did not want to see these boys, but they gonna be locked and loaded. Lance and Bees locked in, bro. They always gonna have a chance. The rest of them guys here, they just gotta be bodies out there.

[Host 2]

The Detroit Amps beat the Boston Ball Hogs 51, 39. Detroit season ends here, but it ends the way you want it with the win and a glimpse of what's coming next year. Boston was locked into the three seed going into the game.

[Host 1]

Joe, you guys, y' all got hot at the end.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hey, Play spoiler. Man, when you're out of it, you can't make the post season. And you got a team like the Bajas with Jeremy Pargo, who was in the MVP race. Play spoiler. Man, come out there and play hard. You never know what gonna happen. Mess up they plans. Hell, yours messed up here. Why not mess theirs up? There we go. Detroit. We in the. We in the win column, baby.

[Host 2]

So here's the playoff picture. Dallas versus Miami, Chicago versus Boston. What you got?

[Host 1]

Who you like, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

Dallas versus Miami. Oh, that's first down. Dallas versus Miami.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Miami. You already know.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know, Joe. Hey, Dallas got. See, Miami got two guys and bees and land, so you gonna. They gonna get money. But Dallas got three guys, and out of them three guys, one of them three guys can go for 22, 25 points. You know what I'm saying? If not all of them, huh?

[Host 1]

Maybe even 30.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, so I don't know, man. I ain't. You know, Dallas ain't fought this hard to get the number one seed, Ocho. And think they finna come right here you know what? I think I'm gonna lean toward Dallas.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You know what? And that's why Miami gonna win, because you leaning towards Dallas.

[Joe Johnson]

All right, Bet. All right. Put something on it, huh? Put some on it.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You already owe me 500.

[Joe Johnson]

No, I don't.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, Joe boy. I'm telling you, boy.

[Host 2]

Chicago versus Dallas. I mean, Chicago versus Boston. Who you got, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

Chicago versus Boston.

[Host 2]

That's Montrez.

[Joe Johnson]

I think Boston has a chance. I think Boston has a chance. Argan Ocho, because they got guys who can guard Trez and make it tough for him. You know, if. If Trez don't get no help from some of them other guys on the triplets team, it's. It's going to be one and done for them, period. Point blank

[Host 2]

MVP race. Pargo or Trez, who you got?

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, what's the numbers looking like? Trez probably at about. He gotta be at probably about 20, at about 26, probably about 30 and 10. Damn. I know he. He ain't played as many games as everybody else, Ocho, but the fact that he got them numbers, they mean something, bro.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

And his team made the playoffs.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. So I don't know.

[Host 1]

They.

[Host 2]

They.

[Joe Johnson]

I hope my boy Pargo get it, but if Trez get it, I mean, can't nobody really say a whole hell of a lot.

[Host 2]

Playoffs in the celebrity game of Fry are. Are the August 15th in Dallas at 12p Eastern, 12pm Eastern on CBS. Ocho will be appearing in the game. Let's hope he gives a better showing than what he did last year because he was on some bull job.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

My showing was good. Hey, I'm on the flyer.

[Host 2]

I don't know about the fly.

[Host 1]

Yeah, they took a fly on you

[Host 2]

to put you in the game.

[Joe Johnson]

He on there.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I can't even see. Hey, hey. I ain't even see the flyer, man.

[Joe Johnson]

You at the top. You at the top of that. I'm gonna have to pop out on y' all up there.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

No, you said you was coming.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm about. Come on, man, just slow down, Turbo.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, Joe, if you ain't on the sideline, man, I ain't playing, man.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna be there. O.J. i got you, bro.

[Host 1]

I got you.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I'm Sam. I could come down there to. To Atlanta, get like two. Two days with you.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, and come get some work in, man.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Lord have mercy.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. Yeah, I'm gonna come in probably. I'm probably come in Wednesday, Wednesday and Thursday.

[Host 1]

So you come to get the bag, huh? While you there. You might as well get the bag while you there, Ocho.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, you gonna be in town?

[Host 1]

No, I'm gonna ship it to it.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't. Don't tell my business. Oh, you know I don't. You know I don't like my. You know.

[Advertiser Voice 1]

You know.

[Joe Johnson]

You know I'm very discreet.

[Advertiser Voice 6]

Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

You know I don't like my business.

[Host 1]

Yeah, yeah. Y. My bad. My bad.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, Joe, I'm gonna come in Wednesday, man.

[Host 1]

Get.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Get two days real quick with you, man.

[Joe Johnson]

All right. Bet. I got my boy. He got a gym. Oh, it's gonna be.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I thought we were going to the Hulk gym. Or you want to go to a little private. Private area?

[Joe Johnson]

I got. I got. We got a little bit of both. Don't worry. I got you.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay, okay. Okay. Don't forget, answer the phone. Hey, hey, Joe. Don't know not to answer the phone. Yeah, he don't answer the phone. Oh, you might be taking a nap. He might be about talking. Taking a nap again.

[Joe Johnson]

Leave it alone. Don't even chime in or leave it

[Narrator/Announcer]

alone on August 21st.

[Host 1]

What's your plan?

[Narrator/Announcer]

I want the vengeance. No one does action movies. Got a problem on the ship like Jason Statham? Well, he'll need all the help you can get. Mutiny. Rated R. August 21st.

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[Host 1]

All right, it's time for our final

[Host 2]

segment of the evening.

[Host 1]

It's time for Q and A. Chris

[Host 2]

Person 7502 Rice had 22 touchdowns in 12 games. He did had a historic season in 1987. That was the strike shortened season. That's why you only see 12 games and 22 touchdowns. He was Offensive Player of the Year two times Offensive Player of the year as a wide receiver speaks volume to

[Host 1]

it all sports talk 843843 fellas I

[Host 2]

need you to put your prompter hat on your promoter hat.

[Host 1]

How can we save boxing?

[Host 2]

Davis v. Haney is too much money to be made not to have that big fight.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You know ain't no promoter hat going hey Ain't gonna help nothing. A hypotheticals ain't gonna help nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

What's gonna help?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

These dudes got. They gotta want to fight each other. That's all it come down to. And then the money got to be right.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what I'm saying. They offer them boys a bag, they'll fight.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Well, hell, I mean, the problem is they ain't offering the right bag.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That's all.

[Host 1]

But I think the thing.

[Host 2]

But see, the thing is we looking

[Host 1]

at the right fight.

[Host 2]

We looking at fights like with Mayweather fought Pacquiao, Mayweather fought this guy, or Sugar Ray. L was fighting Hearns and Hagler and Devran.

[Host 1]

These guys ain't built up no name, Ocho.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I mean.

[Host 1]

Yeah, hold on.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, but the two names that he just mentioned, he said, okay, what way

[Host 1]

do we fight that Haney gonna want to fight at 47? They want to fight a catch with the Shakur's gonna want to fight at the catch weight.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

He gonna have to. I mean, Devin is a just a bigger individual in general. It got to be a catch weight. I thought the catch weight was 144,

[Host 1]

but then you go to. Well, I, I don't want him to rehydrate back up. And

[Host 2]

hey, I don't know, man. It's like, man, hey, they got into the wrong sport that don't nobody want to lose.

[Host 1]

Don't nobody, man. I. I don't want to get hurt, bro. You got to put yourself in harm's way, Ocho. If stepping in the ring is really not putting yourself in. If I step on the football field, yeah, I could fall. But going across the middle is putting yourself in harm's way.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Running slants, running shallows, that is putting yourself in harm's way. Throwing a punch when there's something that could come back. That is putting yourself in harm's way. Sitting in the pocket, that is putting yourself in harm's way.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yes.

[Host 1]

So I don't know why guys chose to fight if they don't want to be in harm's way.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Host 1]

Ain't that a part of it, Ocho? I mean, this is your expertise here.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Listen. It's a part of it also. But again, this is boxing. When it comes to boxing, especially in today's era, you. You got to protect that zero because this is prize fighting. Therefore, the prize has to be correct for me to take a chance on losing. So if I'm taking a chance for one, they got the money, got to be right. And obviously they look at you different. They say, like, mma, Uncle Joe, this ain't like mma. You could lose the MMA and still make your purse and still be somewhat relevant in a sense, to be able to get the fights and command the kind of person you want to in boxing.

[Host 1]

It ain't like I got big fights and he had five losses.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, but it's.

[Advertiser Voice 7]

It's different.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

It's different for certain individuals.

[Host 1]

Sugar Ray got big fights. Hearns got big fights. Hagler got big fights. Name somebody that didn't get big fights. The only.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

But that's. Back then. It's different now. This era of boxing. Different.

[Host 1]

Yeah, they won't fight. The only difference is they won't fight.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I mean, that, too. That. That, too. And you have to protect that zero in order. In order to command the kind of money you want to. That's why everybody protects the old man.

[Host 1]

The only guy that seemed like he'll fight anybody, Ryan Garcia.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He itching to get out there.

[Host 1]

I mean, he dropped down to, what, 40 to take on Tank, depleted himself. He fought Haney. What? He fought Haney at 47.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

I mean, look, at some point in time, you gotta fight.

[Host 2]

Everybody want to be Bud Crawford. Everybody want to be Floyd Mayweather.

[Host 1]

Everybody. But one thing about Bud, Fault.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, he got it.

[Host 1]

Floyd fought Gotti, he fought. He fought Hatton, he fought Cotto, he fought Corrales. He fought.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on. Did y' all fight? Did y' all fight? Did y' all watch Roach last fight? Yeah, that boy got out on him, didn't, man.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, he did.

[Host 2]

I think he underestimated old boy.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, you think so?

[Host 2]

Yeah, because he thought, you know, he said he wasn't expecting the movie. He thought he was gonna be flat standing right there in front of him.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Zepeda always been a pressure fighter. He always just come forward. Always. He's always. He's always fought everybody like that. He comes forward, he's not stopping.

[Host 2]

But I guess he.

[Host 1]

I guess he has to move, has

[Host 2]

some movement this time around. Ocho,

[Host 1]

I don't know, but I want to see the fight.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I. I like.

[Host 1]

Hey, like I said, if you.

[Host 2]

If you think about it, really, the only guy that. That's been undefeated and got big.

[Host 1]

I mean, if you go back and look at all the fighters, all the fighters lost, they ain't been two fighters that's been retired. I mean, not Bud.

[Host 2]

Bud is retired. Undefeated.

[Host 1]

You got Mark, Rocky, Marciona, and you got Floyd Mayweather. So in the history of boxing, you got three guys that retired undefeated. Everybody else got losses. I Think that's a figure in the imagination? I think, man, we.

[Host 2]

The money won't be right.

[Host 1]

The money. The money will be that if you fight, if you interested.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, now that. That's. That's. That's a whole. That's a whole nother look.

[Host 1]

Anyway. Anyway, is he interested on Joe? Do you like to see him fight?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Very interesting.

[Host 1]

Is he interested, Joe? You like to see him fight?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

And he has a fan, friendly fighting style. Boots has a fan, friendly fighting style. Those that don't. You got to be cautious.

[Host 2]

Guess what, Ocho. Guess who pay the salaries.

[Host 1]

Fans.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, you're right.

[Host 1]

You can say they casual and don't know what they're talking about. But when they put them but in their pocket and they don't pay for pay per view or they don't take their ass to the fight, then what happened?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, you're right.

[Host 1]

Hell, I know a fighter that was fighting his hometown and people walked out to fight on him.

[Advertiser Voice 3]

What?

[Host 1]

Damn, that ain't none of my business. I don't even know why I brought that up, but anyway, I'm just saying everybody can't be Floyd. Everybody can't be Bud Crawford. You can't fight.

[Host 2]

It's money to be made, Ocho. Yeah, but the thing is, if you

[Host 1]

hear all the great fighters talk, what

[Host 2]

they say, hey, I want to prove I'm a champion.

[Host 1]

I want to prove I'm the best. You got a belt? I don't like you having a bill. I want your belt. I'm gonna come get it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[Host 1]

man. What that look like, man? Hey, man, give me the other guy.

[Host 2]

I don't want the number one db. I want the number two db.

[Host 1]

Nah, I'm the best. Bring your ass on over here. You say you. Hey, you say you a pilot. Well, get some frequent fly miles. Come on over here.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello. Hello.

[Host 1]

Follow me, though. Hey. Cause I follow. I follow you.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Fight. I want to see guys fight. Last night, on last.

[Host 2]

Last night's show, Organocho was trying to compare Cleveland to the division winner Pittsburgh Steelers.

[Host 1]

Really? No.

[Host 2]

We tried to play who to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

[Joe Johnson]

I asked.

[Host 1]

We said talent for talent. I said if. Do Cleveland have more talent? When you look at office defense and special teams, do they have more talent than Baltimore? Do they have more talent than Cincinnati? We went through a list. We also did. We did Jacksonville, we did Houston, we did Indy, we did. A lot of teams don't do that. Cut your team poop. No way.

[Host 2]

You guys talking about talking toughness and violence without talking Heinz War, man.

[Joe Johnson]

High.

[Host 2]

Look here.

[Joe Johnson]

He was a dog.

[Host 2]

Hines could have played.

[Host 1]

It

[Host 2]

is a 1960s 70s receiver.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

And he did everything with a smile on his face, man. Hey, Hines was mean boy. Crack back, blocking, knocking, knocking DBs out, knocking safeties out.

[Host 2]

Got your guy.

[Host 1]

Keith River.

[Host 2]

They changed the rules because of that.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, Broke. Broke river jaw. Crack back.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, I remember that.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Andre Ward chat. Somebody just said Andre Ward is undefeated also. He is Dra.

[Host 1]

He. And you offer Dre a bag. Dre will get back in there.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, I'm wait. I'm waiting on him now. I didn't call him out.

[Host 1]

That one thing about Dre Dre be talking. I'd be listening to Dre talk Dre like, hey, I don't know. I might care to camp, but for the right price, I sure like to find out. Almighty James. Two times.

[Host 2]

I think Todd wants to start Shador, but the big dog's not going to let that happen. It's hard to have a 46 million dollar guy on the bench. Either you gotta. Either you gotta play him or you got to trade him. I mean, you try to release him, but he can't be on the bench. While you and Ocho was gone, ISO was doing the best Ice Cube impersonation and he's still in character. Nightcap fan base. We up, we up. We the gold standard.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Absolutely.

[Host 1]

Hey guys, cheers to my Minnesota links,

[Host 2]

especially Kayla McBride dropping 43. This team is stacked.

[Host 1]

Laney Ray.

[Host 2]

That's from Lady Ray.

[Host 1]

You know, she gets excited about her, you know, the Vikings.

[Host 2]

But then she'll be disappointed. Minnesota Timberwolf, you know, we going all the way. You might have something lady with this one because the links are. They're loaded, they nice and they're playing extremely well.

[Host 1]

And now they got feedback defensively.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Lord. Yeah, they look good, man.

[Host 2]

Hey, guys, I saw Fitzgerald give Reavers the business one game. And then Reaver said after the game he hates defending in the slot. It's much harder defending in the slot compared to outside.

[Host 1]

Absolutely. Cuz that guy can go any damn where.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Too much all the way across the

[Host 1]

field, start across and come back. They got the whip routes. They got the option, they got the. The Zaro route.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

We got too much. Too much space.

[Host 1]

That slot ain't easy now.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Too much space to work with.

[Host 2]

And guess what? I. I'm running your ass all into the umpire.

[Host 1]

I'm running you into your own guy. Hey, when I. When you out there wi. That's what they calling the island. Ain't nobody out there but you and him. Who you got?

[Host 2]

Prime. Ooh, Halle Berry, Angela Bassett, Pam Greer.

[Host 1]

Start, bench, cut. Who you got, Joe? We're gonna start with you, Joe. Halle Berry, Angela Bassett, Pam Greer.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

And they pr.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm going Halle, Pam, Angela.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Boy, you're a fool.

[Host 1]

Okay, he go. He said he gonna start. He gonna start pale. No, he gonna start Halle. You starting Halle?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Advertiser Voice 6]

Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I'm going Pam.

[Host 1]

Okay, you gonna bench Pam, and you cutting Angela Bassett.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Okay, Ocho, what you got?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

But, Joe, taste, bud. So goddamn bad, boy. Well, I'm starting Angela Bassett. Boy, what are you talking about? And

[Host 1]

what anime from nothing.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

And I'm starting, man. I'm starting Angela, boy. I'm going Pam grill in her prime. Second and. And Holly Berry, you know, you. You know, use the real deal with the short buzz cut. But you go. You got to sit, baby.

[Narrator/Announcer]

That crop.

[Host 1]

That crop. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, see, see, Ocho probably, man. Halle been bad so long. Look how he do. Hallelujah. Just doing. Look, look, see, see, Ocho, in Boomerang, they tried to downplay Hallelujah. She wasn't the baddest thing on Boomerang, too, until she. Until toward the end, you see, when she stepped in and she started playing her part. Huh?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, Joe, Joe, you do realize we talk about Angela Bassett and Pam Grier, who've been bad longer than us.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, listen, listen. Pam. Pam Grier, she tough as a wood nickel. I know exactly what you do. I know exactly what you talking about. Pam grid tough. I already know.

[Host 1]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hold on. She. She tough as a what, a wooden nickel?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, she tough as a wood nickel.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, I'm.

[Host 1]

You.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I'm using that.

[Host 1]

Hey, y' all remember. You remember what you call him? Halle Bear with the crackhead. She was gay to girlfriend in Jungle Fever.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I remember that. I remember that, man.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Ooh.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, back.

[Joe Johnson]

It was different back then, boy. God.

[Advertiser Voice 7]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Oh, you know, Joe, I mean, I like. I'll be handling that hair bad.

[Joe Johnson]

Ooh, you going, Pam. I already know you going.

[Host 1]

Hold on, Joe.

[Host 2]

Hold on, hold on.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, listen, the fact that I'm taking this long after seeing Angela Bassett right now to this day, and seeing Angela Bassett in her prime, seeing Pram grill end up. Come on, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Is that.

[Host 1]

Ocho? You gotta realize. You do realize in the 90s that. That. That. That. That.

[Joe Johnson]

That the Halle Berry cut her and Jada Pinkett.

[Host 1]

As a matter of fact, now that I think about it, I got to take her. Cause a chick that pulled. Pulled a stick on me, man. She.

[Sports Announcer]

She.

[Host 1]

She had that cut What?

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Cut you like that. But she was, she was built like Angela Bassett. She just had a haircut. She had a complexion like Halle Berry.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, okay.

[Host 1]

She had a complexion, but she was about 5, 9, about 166, I think she said she like 165, 168.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, I understand you and Joe, but there, there is no, there is no version. There is no version as bad as Holly Berry was that is better than Angela Bassett and Pam Gray in their prime. None. And I mean, and I mean that, I mean that respectfully. Huh?

[Host 2]

You ever seen in person. Who, Halle?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, I've seen all three of them in person. Yes. Yeah, I mean, that's why I said respectfully.

[Host 2]

That woman, real easy on the eyes. Joe

[Narrator/Announcer]

on August 21st, what's your plan? I want the vengeance. No one does action movies. You got a problem on the ship like J and Statham, well, I'll need all the help you can get. Mutiny. Rated R. August 21st.

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Host 2]

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[Joe Johnson]

I see. I see that person too. I know what you're talking about.

[Host 1]

You don't die fellas. Richard Sherman said Reeva's armbar is illegal in today's NFL. Do you agree?

[Host 2]

Ocho? Did it affect you when you play?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

No. His arm bar wasn't illegal. He did. He did.

[Host 1]

He said it's illegal today.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I mean even when he, when he did it, it wasn't impeding the receiver. He did it as a, as a guy to be able to feel where the receiver was and then impede what the receiver was trying to do. So they wouldn't call it today. They wouldn't, they wouldn't call it. Feeling. Feeling where the guy is is one thing. Not impeding where he is, but being able to keep yourself in position to be able to make a play is

[Host 2]

what he did because he always did.

[Host 1]

He did a great job of hey,

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

his, his ball skills was un effin believable. He gonna get his head around right away every time. Once you pass five or Six, seven yards. He get his head around right away.

[Sports Announcer]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

With all that being said, I'm going. I'm going.

[Host 2]

Angela Bassett, Halle Berry, Pam Greer.

[Health Promo Voice]

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[Host 2]

So I got.

[Host 1]

I got agree. I gotta agree. I gotta agree with you, Mike, Mike.

[Host 2]

100 step the three point go and

[Host 1]

got kids chucking up threes. Monte, this lie don't make you no bad brother. All right?

[Host 2]

So why you let Jay Smooth junk dunk on Nash like that, man?

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, Smooth caught so many bodies, boy. And he got some nasty ones. He got some nasty ones, man.

[Host 1]

I won a thousand. I won a thousand dollars off Porter's

[Host 2]

in the dunk contest. When. When Smooth won the dunk contest in Denver.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Porter was in the dunk contest.

[Host 2]

Porter. He bet me Clinton Porters.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you wanted that?

[Host 1]

Yeah, I went with Smooth, cuz. Remember Smooth coming in that Dominique jersey?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, boy. Hey, Ocho. That boy can get out the bed and do a windmill now. That boy got. Hey, Josh Smith. That boy. That boy got some spring after.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

How tall?

[Joe Johnson]

Josh was six nine, but still six nine, six nine and a half.

[Host 1]

Yeah, that boy.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I mean, when you already tall like that, it don't. It don't really do nothing for me, Joe. When you like 62 and 63 and you jumping out the gym, it just looks so.

[Host 2]

You like Ant Man Duncan.

[Joe Johnson]

Like John Morant.

[Advertiser Voice 6]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, it just looked better, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Joe Johnson]

But hey, hey, when you a tall dude and you got some bunnies.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Oh, yeah, he got up now, Ocho,

[Host 1]

he liked the white Howard. Dwight Howard tall. But that white Howard got ups.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I'm talking about them.

[Host 1]

What?

[Joe Johnson]

That one leg he got when he spring off? That one leg, Ocho, he taking flight.

[Host 1]

That boy get.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that boy can fly, boy. I ain't gonna lie to you.

[Host 2]

I love all the content you put out. Shout out to King ISO and my fellow ball brother. And Ocho, we appreciate that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir. That.

[Host 2]

Appreciate that. All the demands just to gag on 15 Popeye biscuits with no lemonade to wash it down against Denver in 2020. Who gagged it?

[Host 1]

Who gagged? Oh,

[Host 2]

Kawhi.

[Host 1]

Because remember Kawhi. Remember the Clippers. O. Joe had a 31 lead in the bubble. In the bubble.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And had the lead in every.

[Health Promo Voice]

In.

[Host 1]

In games five, six and seven had leads and lost all of them. 60 point lead in, if I'm not mistaken, in game in game seven.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, because they had a whip, too. They had a whip in that bubble. They had a. I'm talking about. They probably had the best defensive perimeter guys you could want on your damn team.

[Host 1]

Did they have pg?

[Joe Johnson]

Pat Bell? Kawhi.

[Host 1]

Kawhi. And I mean healthy Kawhi.

[Joe Johnson]

Man.

[Host 2]

What?

[Host 1]

They're healthy.

[Host 2]

Pg.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, man.

[Host 1]

You ain't.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you ain't thinking. Nobody walking through them. But Luca walked them boys down.

[Host 2]

No, Jamal Murray walked him down.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And Michael Porter Jr. Because, remember, they failed Michael Porter Jr. Only for his back.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Host 2]

Do y' all think they'll ban Kawhi from the NBA and everything associated with it?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

No, man. No.

[Host 2]

No.

[Host 1]

I think you'll get some. I think they're good. I think they're looking at suspension.

[Host 2]

Possibly.

[Joe Johnson]

Definitely. Probably suspension. But, band. No, they ain't banning. They. They ain't banning you unless you out there doing some cocaine or something.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

For real.

[Host 1]

Betting on the games.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Betting on the game. Yeah.

[Host 2]

How do you get over someone you love deeply? Been back and forth. Been back and forth over a year. I messed it up from the start, man.

[Joe Johnson]

I seen. Hold on. I seen Unc say what? He break up. He put meat on something that night. Yeah.

[Host 1]

Yeah. That's how you get over somebody. That's to let somebody else get up under you.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

How old is.

[Host 2]

Oh, he didn't say. Noah did not tell us how old he was.

[Host 1]

Ocho. How you get over somebody, Ocho?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Shoot. I think about how much. I'm gonna say once they gone.

[Joe Johnson]

You what?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I think about how much I'm saving once they go. I'm not. I'm not.

[Narrator/Announcer]

I'm not.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I'm not lying, but. Hey, Joe, you laughing, Joe. But when I. When it's time to break up with somebody, I always think about. The whole point is, well, I'm the one doing for you. I mean, obviously, you were an asset in some kind of way, but I'm thinking. I'm thinking about the money I'm saving. Okay. You leaving? Okay, bye. And I love to hear what you won't do. The next man will. Well, God damn. Well, do me that favor. That don't. That. That ain't hurting me. I'm cool. I ain't tripping. But I'm. I'm a little. I'm a little different because I. I look at. I look. I look at relationships from a different lens, as opposed to when I'm. When I'm losing someone, I'm looking at it from a financial standpoint of that's someone else's burden. That ain't my responsibility no more. I'm okay with that.

[Advertiser Voice 1]

Right.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

So I look at it different.

[Sports Announcer]

Other.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Other Dudes like, no, I don't want to lose that extra added expense. I ain't got no problem losing the added expense.

[Host 1]

Well, damn, Ocho is. Is. Is all she is. All she is an expense to you. Y' all don't really have anything in common.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

It's still an expense no matter what. I don't care what we got in common. You are still an added expense. And if I'm losing added expense, why in the hell am I chasing the bill?

[Health Promo Voice]

Why?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I mean, that's what it come down to, Joe. I mean, I'm not trying to be rude or nothing, but I mean, once you get past all the emotional, oh, I love you and all that, Kiki. And haha, it's still an expense.

[Host 1]

Yeah, but damn, what are you doing? You bought a condo, you bought a roll Royce.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Damn, it don't matter. It don't matter what scale you buying on. You bay on in some way.

[Host 1]

If two or three thousand dollars a month put you in the poor house bad, you. You don't need a day.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

It ain't about it. That's the extra 2,3000 in my PO ain't got to spend.

[Host 1]

Nah, you gonna spend it. Cuz the one thing I know about you, you ain't gonna spend no money that any. You not gonna go outside of your

[Host 2]

scope of your budget.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Never. I don't care who I'm with. And if you don't like it, go about your business.

[Host 1]

So Even if it's 2000, you gonna spend it on something

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

probably some cigars.

[Host 1]

True.

[Joe Johnson]

Man said, damn, that.

[Host 2]

Yeah, I don't know, bro.

[Host 1]

It's to each his own.

[Host 2]

I mean, it's tough. And I've always. I've been a firm believer in this. Breaking up was easy to do when you're doing the breaking up, when you

[Host 1]

don't want to let go. And sometimes. And I've been there, bro. I've been in the situation where I've

[Host 2]

been wrong, I've done wrong and still didn't want to let go.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Host 2]

But hey, what you say? Is this it?

[Host 1]

I mean, you could only.

[Host 2]

You could only. Like, what can I do? And she say nothing. And you name rattle off some things that you might be willing to do.

[Host 1]

And she said, still, that ain't it. I'm out, Joe. I ain't got nothing else to give.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I'm not rattling off shit. Uncle Joe, man. Man, bye.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I'm good. Hey, hey. Cause see, once you get caught doing something, she ain't never gonna trust your ass again. I don't Care what she tell you now?

[Host 1]

You're right, yo.

[Joe Johnson]

She ain't gonna trust your ass again.

[Host 1]

And then all you just constantly bring it up.

[Host 2]

Yeah, there you go.

[Joe Johnson]

Where you at?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Every, every little argument. That's why.

[Host 1]

There you go.

[Joe Johnson]

So it best to go.

[Host 1]

Gonna get up, gone to that bee house. Go to the Beehive. I, I, I mean, I can't go

[Host 2]

over there no more.

[Host 1]

You ruined that once you call and told her that, that you was in the cut. I can't go over there.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, you know, you know how most people, like I'm, I'm just, I'm just thinking about it, right? Like, and I take that very, very serious. Because, you know, Joe, you, you know me, you know, personally now for a little bit. And, and the way I've always been is when I'm with you, I'm locked in.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

And when thing, when things don't go right, then the, the business side of things, it start going through my head. So that's why I view it like that. A lot of people, they may laugh and all, but, but once, once things fold in a sense and I, and I see it's not going to work, then I start thinking from a financial standpoint. Okay. It's saving me more because there's really nothing you're adding of value to me in that sense. That's why it's so easy for me to let go.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I, I don't know why. I've always been wired like that in a sense, especially that I'm seasoned now and I understand what's going on out there and I know ate nothing out there. It's just easy. It sounds stupid, but it works for me. It has always worked for me.

[Host 2]

That's all that matters.

[Joe Johnson]

But it took, it took experience for you to get to that point, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean like, you gotta think, think about a cat who ain't but 23, 22, who ain't been through nothing. You know what I mean?

[Host 1]

Hard, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I don't know. It's hard to explain because for us as men, we date women and we dealing with them and we kind of, once we date with someone, we see it as, that's my property ownership. I never view it at that. And a lot of men, we view relationships and dealing with a woman as, that's mine. I own that. Especially when, when that money started coming into play, you started doing it. And boy, it's hey, hey, uncle boys, it's a dirty game. It's a dirty game. And when You. When you played it long enough, you know, them antennas act a little different, you know?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

When you.

[Host 2]

When you've been spidey, senses start tingling.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joe. When you've been number two for so long, you see all the games that they play in the lab, that they telling how they move and how they sneak.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Ocho. When them patterns switch up. Oh, that's when I switch the hell up. Yeah.

[Host 1]

Hey, yo. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Them patterns switch up. Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I pay attention to every. Every little. Every little thing. I'd be locked in. It take one thing. But once the main antennas go up and I see something.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I told you, like, you should say, hey. Oh, you want to be funny? All right, we can make it a comedy show now. We can make it a comedy show.

[Host 1]

I mean, you do that, that'll make

[Host 2]

you no bad brother, though.

[Health Promo Voice]

I don't.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You don't. It don't.

[Host 2]

Christian Maynard, six, seven, two.

[Host 1]

Hey, Ocho.

[Host 2]

ISO. Big shout out from you guys to you guys from the Bahamas. This is the best show, no doubt. No one can compare. You can't compete where you can't compare.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Host 2]

That's what's up. That's really what's going on. And we appreciate that. It's. It's comments like that. It's like you guys showing up for us every time we show up, and we really, really, really appreciate that. I don't think. You know, sometimes words can't express adequately how grateful we are, and sometimes I wish I had a thousand tongues. So I can tell you how just how thankful I am that you're able to. To share with us, and we're able to share with you, you know, have a laugh, and we, you know, some things that require serious. A serious tone, and then sometimes, for the most part, we're able to have fun. And though those are times like that that I wish I could just like. Guys, I really, really appreciate that. Y' all know, I appreciate it considering what we. What we. What I went through personally and for have you guys to still show up and.

[Host 1]

And, hey,

[Host 2]

we love you. We support you. Just keep your head in there. Keep plugging away. God got you, Ocho. And, you know, you. You and Joe stuck beside me. The staff, not. No, not anyone. No one wavered. It's times like this that you really appreciate and you see who's in your corner. And so I'm not.

[Host 1]

I'm not.

[Host 2]

I'm not disappointed in the normal. I'm just greatly. Greatly appreciative of the abnormal and the chat that stayed with Nightcap, Ocho and ISO, you guys and the entire team, from graphics to social to the EPS to editors. I appreciate you. Even if I've never told you. I honestly, really, really appreciate you guys.

[Host 1]

Thank you guys for joining us for

[Host 2]

another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am.

[Host 1]

I'm your favorite unc, my partner and

[Host 2]

co host, the Liberty City legend, the Bingo Ring of Fame honoree, the former Pro Bowler and the Y' All Pro that is Chad Ocho, Cinco Johnson and the third member of the big three is a seven time NBA All Star from the University of Arkansas, Mr. Clutch himself. That is ISO, Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you for your eyes, your ears and your word of mouth. It's greatly, greatly appreciated. Because all of this is all because of you. None of this is possible without you. All the awards that we've been able to win and we will win again in the future, all the support that you've shown us, that's all you, Ocho and I and Joe are able to do what we do. All because of you. So again, thank you. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier head over to laportier cognac.com to purchase your bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. It is a premium VSOP Cognac, the best tasting, smoothest VSOP Cognac on the market. But don't take my word for it. Try it and compare it against other cognacs and you'll see it is the best tasting, smoothest VSOP Cognac on the market. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Thank you guys for joining us tonight. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. We'll see you back tomorrow night. Also, peace.

[Joe Johnson]

Peace out,

[Host 1]

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[Joe Johnson]

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