Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Brendan Sorsby to Pittsburgh? + Myles Garrett's leadership questioned

Summary

Nightcap: Deebo & Joe – Part 1

Episode Date: June 22, 2026
Hosts: James "Deebo" Harrison & Joe Haden

Overview

In this episode of Nightcap, legends Deebo Harrison and Joe Haden go deep on everything from Father's Day mishaps and grilling family reunions to the latest NFL rumors and locker-room dynamics. The core sports topics include speculation on Brendan Sorsby potentially joining the Pittsburgh Steelers, a critical look at adding players with off-field baggage, and a nuanced discussion about Myles Garrett's leadership—and why being beloved in the locker room isn’t always necessary if you keep producing on the field. The hosts keep it raw and relatable, mixing personal anecdotes with sharp football takes.

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Father’s Day & Family Reunions

[03:52 – 15:44]

Father’s Day: Feeling the Love (or Not)

• Deebo’s Opening Rant: Deebo shares a heartfelt (and hilarious) story about feeling underappreciated on both his birthday and Father’s Day. After waiting all day for his sons to call or take him out, they finally show up late—but with handwritten cards and jokes, which redeems the day.
• Appreciation for ‘Dad Gifts’: Both hosts talk up the value of simple, thoughtful gestures like handwritten notes over expensive gifts.
  • Quote:
    “Listen, what we saying is we… don’t need a real gift because… if we really want to get it, we can get it for ourselves. What I need is the thought.” – Deebo [11:23]
  • Quote:
    “When my sons called me brave, that thing, that’s all… like, this is all I need for my young bulls.” – Joe [12:36]
• Double Standards for Mother’s Day vs. Father’s Day:
  Deebo jokingly bemoans how mothers get more love and better treatment.
  • Quote:
    “You was like… at the cigar bar, mama on her birthday… you got her everything on Mother’s Day. Yep. Respect.” – Deebo & Joe [10:43 – 10:48]

Family Reunion Traditions & Grilling Wars

• Old School Reunions: Joe describes a Virginia Beach family reunion: sandwiches, coolers, kids boogie boarding.
• Deebo’s BBQ Brag: Deebo insists reunions aren’t the same without serious grilling—claims to cook on four grills at once for 150–200 people.
  • Quote:
    “I’m working on four grills at one time, Joe… two propane and two charcoals. Ain’t no sandwiches unless you making a sandwich with some burger or a hot chocolate cheeseburger sandwich.” – Deebo [15:02]
• Joe Copes as Captain Boogie: Joe describes being "beach patrol" looking after nieces, nephews, and kids while teaching them to boogie board—earning the nickname “Captain Boogie.”
  • Quote:
    "I'm Captain Boogie now… my nieces and nephews gave me that name." – Joe [22:20]

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NFL Rumor Breakdown: Brendan Sorsby to the Steelers?

[23:01 – 31:37]

The Rumor

• Analyst Speculation: Steve Palazzolo predicts Steelers may pursue Cincinnati/Texas Tech QB Brendan Sorsby in the supplemental draft with a third-rounder.
• Overcrowded QB Room: With Will Howard, Drew Aller, Mason Rudolph, and Aaron Rodgers, Deebo and Joe both say it makes zero sense.
  • Quote:
    “At quarterback—the position that can literally single-handedly lose and win you every game… you think you’re going to bring that over here?” – Deebo [25:02]
• Concerns about Sorsby: Both are critical about Sorsby’s profile: on-field production (only 2,700 yards), off-field baggage, and the noise surrounding him.
  • Quote:
    “You just got to find one thing to be like, nah, I could take him off my board… too much drama.” – Joe [28:10]
  • Quote:
    “It’s not even a pipe dream. It’s a pipe bomb… you’re trying to blow up [the organization].” – Deebo [27:35]
• Steelers Way: The hosts praise the Steelers for careful QB development and organizational integrity.
  • Quote:
    “That’s not the Pittsburgh Steelers… that’s for a team that doesn’t have a quarterback or any integrity whatsoever.” – Deebo [31:37]
• Verdict: Hard "no" on Sorsby, even as a gamble—Steelers are set with Rodgers and two young QBs who are actually developing.

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Locker Room Dynamics: Myles Garrett’s Leadership Questioned

[32:35 – 47:50]

The Report

• Mary Kay Cabot’s Article: Claims Myles Garrett “wasn’t universally beloved” as a unifier in Cleveland despite being respected and revered.
• Joe’s Perspective:
  Being the best player and leader doesn’t mean everyone likes you, and Garrett’s low-key persona is okay.
  • Quote:
    “The best player on the team, everybody doesn't have to like him… Miles just personality isn't just… the most friendliest…” – Joe [33:57]
  • Quote:
    “You can lead by vocally talking… But if you’re not balling and you’re just talking, dudes are like, ‘Shut the hell up.’” – Joe [39:14]
• How Leadership Looks Different:
  • Lead by Example: Both hosts argue performance is what matters most in the league.
  • Not a Social Guy? So What? Deebo suggests locker rooms now aren’t as unified socially as in the past—but it’s mostly a media narrative.
    • Quote:
      “Who the freak is universally loved anywhere in this world?… Let’s stick to what’s true: Myles Garrett played nine seasons… 125.5 sacks, 7 Pro Bowls, 2 DPOYs. You know what y’all gave him? Two playoff appearances, one playoff win in nine years.” – Deebo [42:33]
  • Media Creation vs. Reality: It’s normal not to have close bonds with everyone—doesn’t make you a bad teammate.
• What Really Drains Leaders: Deebo notes repeatedly giving motivational speeches with no organizational progress would break anyone’s spirit.
  • Quote:
    "He lost the motivation of being able to continually give you a pep talk while they’re getting their ass kicked." – Deebo [43:43]
• Why Not Being a Rah-Rah Guy is Fine:
  • “I just don't think that with Miles… he's not really as a vocal leader. That's not anything against anybody… you have to be a vocal leader.” – Joe [45:30]

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NFL Power Rankings React

[47:50 – 51:45]

• 2026 Post-Offseason Rankings:

  1. Los Angeles Rams
  2. Seattle Seahawks
  3. San Francisco 49ers
  4. Denver Broncos
  5. Buffalo Bills
  6. New England Patriots
  7. Chicago Bears
  8. Houston Texans
  9. Cincinnati Bengals
  10. Detroit Lions
  11. Baltimore Ravens

• Hosts' Reaction:

  • Surprised/disappointed at Ravens (11) and Bengals (9) being ranked above the Steelers.
  • Believe Pittsburgh is being slept on, especially with defensive upgrades and a better coaching staff.
    • Quote:
      “I’m just trying to figure out, Debo, why there’s so much disrespect to the Pittsburgh Steelers here.” – Joe [50:51]
    • Quote:
      “They don’t even realize how much we done did, man… The defense was not this defense. We’re going to improve greatly because we have a better coaching staff. Point blank, period.” – Deebo [51:01]
  • Assert the rankings undervalue on-field improvement and strong team culture.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Gifts and Appreciation:
  “What I need is the thought. I need the thought. I need to see something.” – Deebo [11:24]
• On the Sorsby Rumor:
  “It’s a pipe bomb… you’re trying to blow up [the organization].” – Deebo [27:39]
• On Leadership:
  “If you’re not balling and you’re just talking, dudes are like, ‘Shut the hell up.’ That’s irrelevant.” – Joe [39:14]
• On the Struggle of Losing Teams:
  “He lost the motivation of being able to continually give you a pep talk while they’re getting their ass kicked.” – Deebo [43:43]
• On Power Rankings Disrespect:
  “They don’t even realize how much we done did… we’ve improved on both sides of the ball…” – Deebo [51:01]

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Episode Takeaways

• Deebo and Joe blend family life with football talk, bringing authenticity and humor while dropping sharp commentary on the NFL.
• The Pittsburgh Steelers shouldn’t (and won’t) roll the dice on a troubled QB prospect, no matter the media churn.
• Locker room leadership takes many forms; Myles Garrett’s quiet dominance speaks louder than forced pep talks.
• Media narratives often distort reality—what matters in the NFL is production, not personality contests.
• The hosts believe the Steelers’ offseason moves are being overlooked—keep an eye out for them to surprise, contrary to national power rankings.

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For listeners wanting a mix of storytelling, laughs, and real locker room insight, this Nightcap episode hits the mark.

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[Joe Hayden]

I'm doing lovely. My brother Debo coming off this beautiful Father's Day weekend. How are you, my good brother?

[James Deebo Harrison]

Yeah, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing a lot better, Joe. I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing a lot better. I ain't gonna lie to you. My Father's Day almost ain't go. How you know, it should have went, but it was okay, you know what I'm saying? I ain't gonna lie. I was, I was on the verge of crashing out, you know what I'm saying?

[Joe Hayden]

On Father's Day.

[James Deebo Harrison]

On Father's Day, Joe. Listen, Joe, let me tell you what happened.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay?

[James Deebo Harrison]

All right, Joe, let me preface this, okay, preference, your comments with what happened before. So, okay, my children, these, these, these kids that I got, I done took claim to.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James Deebo Harrison]

You know what I'm saying? I signed, you know, I ain't gonna lie to you. You know, it came, I was, it was contract time. There was like, well, if you got kids, we probably pay you more. So I was like, all right, I got some kids. You know what I'm saying, yeah, anyway, good. Let's get to it. So my birthday went through. Okay. My birthday was in May, right?

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James Deebo Harrison]

So they asked me what, you know, what I want to do, And I say, hey, dad, we, you know, we'll take you to eat. I said, all right, cool. Let's, you know, let's do that. But we can't do it this week.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay. Why? They say, why? Why not?

[James Deebo Harrison]

Or they got something else to do.

[Joe Hayden]

They got some other things planned.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Okay, we're doing next week. Next week come, Joe, we ain't go eat. That's me. I'm still ain't with the ego.

[Joe Hayden]

You still ain't been to eat yet.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Still ain't meant to eat yet, Joe. Father's Day and my birthday. That was my birthday.

[Joe Hayden]

That was your birthday in May.

[James Deebo Harrison]

My birthday in May.

[Joe Hayden]

Father's Day just happened.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Father's Day just went down.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James Deebo Harrison]

On May 4th with my birthday. No Father's Day. I'm getting all the Father's Day texts.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, Father's Day.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I only got two kids, Joe. I got Father's Day text from my homeboys, and I got, you know, all this, everybody. And I got father. They take. I only got two kids that I'm a father to that I know of that show.

[Joe Hayden]

That's your boys.

[James Deebo Harrison]

You see what I'm saying, Joe? So I'm looking at my clock. I say, all right, maybe it ain't up. So about 145, they're up. My youngest hit me. He say, happy Father's Day, dad. Love you. I say, thank you. I love you more. Okay?

[Joe Hayden]

Yes. Okay, son, you acknowledge me, okay?

[James Deebo Harrison]

Okay. But the acknowledgment ain't enough no more, Joe.

[Joe Hayden]

No, no, no, no, no.

[James Deebo Harrison]

You know, it ain't enough.

[Joe Hayden]

Your kids are gonna take you out to eat.

[James Deebo Harrison]

So it's rolling around. It's rolling around, Joe. It's four something. I ain't heard from my oldest boy yet. I didn't gay this. I didn't gave this my name. He ain't called me. I said, okay, okay, come on. Okay.

[Joe Hayden]

You hot.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Tell you the name my daddy gave me. You know how much I. And I gave my youngest one it, too. I just flipped it backwards. I called him Henry James instead of James Henry.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Everybody, now look here, Joe.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, sir.

[James Deebo Harrison]

About six something rolling around. He finally called me. I'm sitting at the cigar bar.

[Joe Hayden]

Six o', clock, bro. It's almost the next day.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I'm sitting, bro. I'm sitting at the cigar bar, right? I'm puffing and I kind of. I'm in my feelings. I kind of don't want to answer his phone call.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay, you feeling some type of way.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I'm feeling some type of way, Joe, for sure. I kind of don't want to answer his phone call. Okay? And I'm looking at it, I'm like. So I'm like, I ain't gonna answer it with an attitude. Hey, what up, though?

[Joe Hayden]

What up, though?

[James Deebo Harrison]

Hey, dad, what's going on?

[Joe Hayden]

Where you at?

[James Deebo Harrison]

Yeah, I'm at the cigar bar.

[Tab Ramos]

Why?

[James Deebo Harrison]

We said, how long you gonna be there? I said, I'm gonna be here for a minute with her. All right, we. We coming through. All right.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay.

[James Deebo Harrison]

So they sitting there, and I'm like, okay, I'm sitting there, I'm like, he ain't showed up yet.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, no.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Okay, so how far away?

[Joe Hayden]

Did they give you an eta?

[James Deebo Harrison]

Listen, listen, listen, man. From where? From where? From where they at to where I was at, it ain't nothing but five minutes.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay. All right.

[James Deebo Harrison]

He hit me with the text. He pop up at 7. Him and his brother, they pop up at a cigar bar. I gotta go out there, I gotta let him in, right? Yeah, yeah, go out there, I let him in. Hey, dad. Doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo. Right?

[Commercial Announcer]

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[James Deebo Harrison]

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, they got cards with them. So now, you know.

[Tab Ramos]

I'm.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I'm lighting it up now, you know? All right, all right.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay.

[James Deebo Harrison]

All right. You. All that good stuff, you know what I'm saying?

[Joe Hayden]

Lettuce.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Hey, Henry.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Car.

[James Deebo Harrison]

They got two cars.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Love it.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Handwritten on inside, of course. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, sir.

[James Deebo Harrison]

They hit me with one little jokey joke card, and then they hit me with another one. You know what I'm saying? And this. This, you know, it brought me. Matter of fact, hold on. So this is the first one.

[Joe Hayden]

Joe brought you back good.

[James Deebo Harrison]

It's the first one, Joe. I don't know if you can see that.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, no, that's the first. How much you're loved. Okay. Okay.

[James Deebo Harrison]

And it's like. It's funny. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, yeah. Little kitty cat.

[James Deebo Harrison]

All right, so now this one. This one right here, we got. I'm gonna let you read all that one because this is me all day.

[Joe Hayden]

Boom. Because I said so. Okay. Just in. When anyone asks why today. Okay.

[James Deebo Harrison]

No question.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James Deebo Harrison]

That is right there. It's a little pin and all that.

[Joe Hayden]

Did you make that? Yeah, that card is. That card is literally.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Yeah, yeah, that's fire. So I take the Pin off and put it on. Because that's. That's my saying. Because I said so. Why to do it? Because.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay, I'm liking that.

[James Deebo Harrison]

So then. So then we got to sit there, you know what I'm saying? Chop it up. We conversated about things for a good. You know what I'm saying? Make me feel real good, you know what I'm saying? Because I ain't gonna lie to you, Joe. What was about to happen, I was gonna let them see. Hey, they was going coach. Anytime we go somewhere, you was flying

[Joe Hayden]

coach, you gonna be first class, and

[James Deebo Harrison]

I'll be first class. Y' all gonna be sitting in the back of the plane. Okay? They ain't even know they saved their own self from going coaching. Yes.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Because I was already in my feelings about you not getting. Getting me my birthday. Give him a birthday food. Yeah, all that. All that.

[Joe Hayden]

You're not feeling the love, Debo. You wasn't feeling.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Listen, listen. I wasn't feeling the love. But I'm gonna tell you right now, just so y' all know, hey, I still ain't ate yet. Sons, you was like you at the cigar mama on her birthday.

[Joe Hayden]

You.

[James Deebo Harrison]

You got her everything on Mother's Day.

[Joe Hayden]

Yep. Respect.

[James Deebo Harrison]

First thing. First thing, y', all.

[Joe Hayden]

Hey, dad.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Whenever you want some. Hey, dad.

[Joe Hayden]

Hey, dad.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Hey, dad. Hey, dad. Hey, I need work done.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I need.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Okay, I got. Let's do it. Let's do it. I ain't got no problem with it. Hey, I need some appreciation.

[Joe Hayden]

See, I feel that this.

[Tab Ramos]

What.

[James Deebo Harrison]

This is what a lot of people don't understand. Everybody say, like men say, I don't need no gift. I don't need nothing. Nothing like that. Listen, what we saying is we. We don't need a real gift because you go. Go and spend money that is really gonna be the money that we go spend. So if we really want to get it, we can get it for ourselves.

[Joe Hayden]

We go get it.

[James Deebo Harrison]

What I need is the thought.

[Joe Hayden]

I need the thought.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I need the thought. I need to see something. Like, I get excited about little stupid stuff, and my son had came with a fishing pole or something like that. I would have been off the chart.

[Joe Hayden]

We've been good to go, no question.

[James Deebo Harrison]

You know what I'm saying? Anything like that.

[Ryan Seacrest]

The car.

[James Deebo Harrison]

The car, dude, that's a big one. That's a big one. You had to go out, spend time, pick the card. You had to go in there and put your little right on there. A little personal touch to it.

[Joe Hayden]

I like that. I love that. I love that.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Appreciate it. You know what I'm saying? Like, they don't understand that.

[Joe Hayden]

They don't.

[James Deebo Harrison]

And I'm already jealous because you're giving your mama all the love anyway.

[Joe Hayden]

You know, Mama gonna get the love, though, Debo.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Getting all the love anyway.

[Joe Hayden]

They got to.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I understand. Hey, hey. I like some love, too.

[Joe Hayden]

I like some love, too.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I like some love, too.

[Joe Hayden]

Don't even. But from. From my boys, just to show that they came for their pop.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Stop giving me a kiss at, like, 4, 5.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that. That one right now.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I can't even get a hug. I can get my hug, but I can't even get a kiss on the cheek.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, yeah. You know, they. They look, you raising little men, you raising a little hurt.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I'm trying to tell you, Joe, it's gonna hurt you when that time come for sure.

[Joe Hayden]

Cause all I. You know, my little boys, they nine and seven. I got me my little letters, my handwritten letters. I love you, dad. You're the best dad in the world. You're so brave. When my sons called me brave, that thing, that. That's all I'm like, son, you don't understand. I love you so much. Like, this is all I need for my young bulls. So. I feel you. When they start getting older, I just. That's. Honestly, we just want to protect them and know and show them that they know that we love them so much.

[James Deebo Harrison]

No question, man.

[Joe Hayden]

That's it. That's it, man. Just trying to be good present fathers. And I know that you are, and I'm trying to do the same with my little man, so. Come on, man. It was a good.

[James Deebo Harrison]

How was your weekend, though? How was your weekend, though, bro?

[Joe Hayden]

It was so reunion high. Pop Fun. Had all my family, my brothers, we had nieces, nephews. We went to Virginia Beach. And that was something I used to do with my family back in the day. Every summer, we used to go out there. So it was just. This is my first time bringing my kids out there and my wife and showing them. I'm driving by the hotel we used to stay at, and I've told her like, seven times. She's like, damn, babe. Like, I seen the hotel. I know where y' all stayed at. I'm like, it's just. It just keeps hitting. I'm like, no, I want y' all to know exactly where we was at. She was getting tired of me. But it was a good time, bro. Went out to the beach. We was boogie boarding all day. You know, y' all grilling. No, we Wouldn't. We ain't doing no grilling. We brought up the sandwiches, you know, just the old school way. Sandwiches in the cooler, you know what I'm saying?

[James Deebo Harrison]

Old school is a grill, bruh.

[Joe Hayden]

Old school, not the grill. How you gonna bring your own grill? Have you been to. Have you been to Virginia Beach?

[James Deebo Harrison]

I'm bringing that. Can you bring a grill to Virginia Beach?

[Joe Hayden]

I mean, you might could, but I ain't see no grills out there at

[James Deebo Harrison]

Virginia Beach Family reunion. You got sandwiches. You ain't. Joe, Joe, I'mma show you how to do a family reunion, brother. I'mma show you next July. Invite you to mind.

[Joe Hayden]

This is a baby version. This is a baby version. This was the kids version. This was the kids version. All of the kids version. The kid. The kid family reunion version.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Listen, Joe, Joe, I'm gonna tell you right now, Joe, I'm going here, I'm throw one next year, Joe, and I'm gonna show you, okay? I usually have about somewhere between 150, 200 people, Joe. I do my own firework. All that good stuff, Joe, Set it off, Joe. I sets it all a lot of myself, Joe, I said. And listen, hey, it ain't gonna be nothing better. But what you got to do is realize when I'm doing this, Joe.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I'm working on four grills at one time, Joe. I'm working on. I'm the grill master.

[Joe Hayden]

I can grill. I'm working on two.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I'm working on two propane and two charcoals. I'm a. Hey, ain't no sandwiches unless you making a sandwich with some burger or a

[Joe Hayden]

hot chocolate cheeseburger sandwich, you know? Yeah. Have you been to Virginia beach though?

[James Deebo Harrison]

I've been there, Joe.

[Joe Hayden]

But they don't have no grills out there. You had to bring it.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Not with a sandwich, though.

[Joe Hayden]

I should have brought my grill, Joe, come on. Rolled it on out there.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Something they had to look they gonna do stop you from doing it.

[Joe Hayden]

What they gonna do?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Cause a fire?

[Joe Hayden]

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[Joe Hayden]

We ain't gonna lie to you. We had that and then they had the. You know, you're on the beach right next to the hotels. The Marriott Ocean Front was behind us. They had a nice little joint. We went there and got some. Had some shrimp.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I forgot shrimp. That money. You could go. You can go and afford that. I totally forgot shrimp.

[Joe Hayden]

We had some chicken tenders for the kids.

[James Deebo Harrison]

My mama. My mama prep, my mama prep. I got my sister's day prepping and all that. You know what I'm saying? Like, when it come down to it, dude, we got. I'm talking like, you know, the big trays. You know, you got. You got food, you got ribs coming in. They already froze, you know, getting all this together, you know what I'm saying? So you talking like, you know, I'm cooking up. I'm cooking up at least, you know, 50, 60 slab of ribs.

[Joe Hayden]

You know the reason. Listen, let me tell you why, too, though. The reason why I'm on the grill normally, but I couldn't be on the grill because I'm on beach patrol. I'm in there with all of the kids, making sure nobody goes too far. Nobody starts getting.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I understand.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm out there with the boogie board and got seven nieces and nephews between the age of seven years old and 15 years old. And we're all boogieing and they looking at Uncle J, Uncle J. You know what I'm saying? We good. I'm like, okay, here it goes, here it goes. Get ready. Get your back towards the now. Jump on it. Now boogie. Now boogie. Now kick, kick, kick. So I'm out there fathering the whole family.

[James Deebo Harrison]

The whole family.

[Joe Hayden]

Everybody's good.

[James Deebo Harrison]

You out there working.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm Captain Boogie.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I should have had a working job.

[Joe Hayden]

I should have had on the life guard suit, the red shorts with the top. Whoa, whoa. No, I'm just saying the shorts with the lifeguard shirt, not the. Not up.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I understand, I understand.

[Joe Hayden]

You know, just a regular Joan.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I understand, I understand. I'm just saying, Joe, when you say family reunion, hey, grilling come to mind. Joe.

[Joe Hayden]

I understand.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Joe, I ain't done grilling till 4. 7am to 4.

[Joe Hayden]

You a griller. I got you.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I'll tell you, Joe, I got you.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm a girl. I grill too, but I just never brought the grill onto Virginia Beach. Okay, that's. That's not a bad idea, though. That's not a bad idea. But then I'm gonna have to get somebody Else to be the lifeguard and protect the children.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Hey, I know you got a. A pool at your house, don't you?

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Yeah, you. You can go ahead and. Somebody could watch while you grill and do all that.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, no, that's what we do at the pool. At the crib. At the crib. That's fine. The crib is fine. I'm talking about that beach. When they get to taking the kids away, they can't swim all the way like that, Debo. You know, we've seen some people get took out this.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Hey, listen, I don't. Listen, Joe, I do not play in beach water. I have not got into beach water like the ocean, like. Like actually from the beach ever.

[Joe Hayden]

So, yeah, I'm. I'm.

[James Deebo Harrison]

If I done did it, I done walked with my feet.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm boogie on the sand. Me and my young boys are trying to catch waves back inside. Not far, though. Not, not, not. We not going out there. We right by the surface. You know that boom, Nick. We like jump on top. Wow. We good. My little man take it right into the sand. Bam. I'm like, no, you got to pull up on your boogie board or else it's going to dry you into the sand. Flipping my kids over, having a blast, laughing,

[James Deebo Harrison]

drive you into the sand.

[Joe Hayden]

That's why I told him.

[James Deebo Harrison]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Joe Hayden]

That's why I told him. You got to lift up your boogie. You can't let it just take you into the sand. Hold your boogie up, lift it, and then you can ride the wave all the way through. Once you let that boogie take control. Bam.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Don't let the boogie.

[Joe Hayden]

You can't let the boogie take control of you. You got to be in control of

[James Deebo Harrison]

the boogie, the boogie. You got to be in control of the boogie. I got you.

[Joe Hayden]

I got you.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I got you, Joe. Captain Boogie. Captain Boogie. Joe's new name. Captain Boogie.

[Joe Hayden]

Self appointed, self self acclaimed Captain Boogie. Come on.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Remember, Joe, we said you can't nickname yourself Joe that.

[Joe Hayden]

I didn't give myself this name. My nieces and nephews gave me this name. I just brought it to you.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Okay, okay.

[Joe Hayden]

Uncle Jay, Uncle J, My. My. My nephew Junior. My nephew Junior. My son Jordan's son said, uncle J, you the best boy.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Jordan's son.

[Joe Hayden]

My brother's son Jordan. Okay. My brother is my younger brother.

[James Deebo Harrison]

That's better.

[Joe Hayden]

He has a son named Junior and that's his Junior, Jordan, Junior. He calls me Uncle J, Uncle J, but now he calls me Captain Boogie.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Captain Boogie. Okay. Captain Boogie. That's wild. Yeah. All right, Joe, you want to hear something else that wow, man. We got an NFL analyst that believes the Pittsburgh Steelers would take the plunge and land Brendan Swsby in the supplemental draft. Steve Palaz. Lazo Palazzo predicts Palace solo. Sorry, palace solo Dicks. That the Steelers will bid a third rounder for source B and ultimately add him to the quarterback room that is already rather full. He said Pittsburgh is the most obvious one for me even though they already have Will Howard. Andrew Aller. There is a point where you can't really develop three quarterbacks and they make. And they may have just said we're out on Will Howard. Maybe Mike McCarthy and the staff is like we don't believe in Will Howard already. Or they say Drew Aller in camp and it's like this is a much bigger project than we thought. He's suggesting that they are saying that they're out on either Will or Drew. This is his belief. I don't know what he talking about. I think he, he's out of control. First and foremost. Like you're going to tell me that the Pittsburgh Stillers are going to go ahead and bring in a big risk at best case, a big risk. That's the biggest thing. Like we go bring in this person who, who, who, who has a problem or can't follow the rules. Whichever one you want to say he either can't follow the rules or he has a problem. And when it comes down to it, I don't even believe that he believes that. I think it's just more of a which whichever one is gonna get him the sympathy play. Nobody got an addiction. You suck. Nah, I, I don't believe that in the quarterback at quarterback, the position that can literally single handedly lose and win you every game can lose you every game. You think you're going to go and bring that over here that they're going to take a chance of picking this dude up and saying oh yeah, let's, let's, let's give it a shot. And if they pick him up, the big issue is you're saying right now, if you pick him up, you're saying that Will Howard drew allergies. Nobody in this quarterback room has a future of being our quarterback rather short term or long term. You got Will last year on the 5th and Mike McCarthy said that he would not have picked him 5th. He said he would have went way sooner. So that would be bs and then you just spent a third round pick on crew which means you would essentially be done used up two third round picks. This year. And for a guy who. What was he at Cincinnati? You got two quarterbacks that played in a bigger power football conference in the Ohio State University in Penn State for a guy that played at Cincinnati. And I believe both of them had, at least in my opinion, better, better numbers all around. As far as what his numbers was his last year over there in Cincinnati, on top of him going over to. What is it, Texas Tech just in. What was that, December they said or something? Yeah, they gave this man millions, millions of dollars, and they ain't making pay nothing back. And you sitting up here crying about you are going to be hurt by what? By what, dude? Pittsburgh Steelers is not taking a chance on none of that, dude. Right now, like he said, you got five quarterbacks now. Really? Four that you're trying to develop, or at least three. You know, you can say you're trying to develop Mason, but I mean, he's what, year? Eight, nine. That's. Yeah, that's. That's done. So you would have three quarterbacks that you're trying to develop even if we said that they went and got past the part that he's a degenerate gambler. Yeah, it's not. It's just not going to happen. They're not going to put that onto the organization. Like, it's just not going to happen. That's not something that they're going to do but say they did. You don't even have the time to develop three quarterbacks, dude. You don't have time to get a good sample size to see even what they can do. Especially now, dude. Like, so, like, this right here is.

[Joe Hayden]

Is a.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Is a pipe dream, dude. Like, it ain't even a pipe dream. It's a pipe bomb.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James Deebo Harrison]

You're trying to blow up shit like it ain't happening, dude. Like, I'm going straight to the facility and I'm talking to the Steelers. If they even think about none of this. I gotta go right in and I'm going straight to Omar. I'm going straight to. I'm going straight to Mike. I'm going straight to Mr. I gotta go see Art, everybody. Like, just the thought of somebody actually thinking that this is a possibility at a historic organization, legacy of. No, it's not happening. Where are you at, Joe?

[Joe Hayden]

I'm exactly where you're at. No, no, no, no. Right now it's two. We have players on our team. We have Will Howard, we have Drew Aller, we have Aaron Rodgers. This situation with this quarterback, he's going to be the leader of your team. There's too many questions, there's too many things going on. Like when you study these quarterbacks, you just got to find one thing to be like this. Nah, I could take him off my board. It's not a reason for us to take him. It's too much drama to take him in the draft. You hear so much other little things and it's easy to take a quarterback off of your board right now. It's just too much noise. He has too much stuff to deal with. And with the Steelers we do have Will Howard, we do have Drew Aller, we have Aaron Rodgers. We got to worry about this season if this season doesn't go the way we need to. We still have two quarterbacks that we've drafted on our roster and depending on what happens with the season, we can go next year and know if we have to go get a quarterback. I'm not thinking Brendan Sorsby with all of his problems and all of the things that he has going on then with his play on the field. They say he's a big guy, he's 6' 3, 230. I don't care. He threw for 2,700 yards.

[James Deebo Harrison]

6, 3, 6, 3.

[Joe Hayden]

Like that's not giving me numbers. Crazy size like all of that. I don't care.

[James Deebo Harrison]

We got two boys like 6, 6, 6, 5, 6, 7, something like that right now quarterbacking.

[Joe Hayden]

I don't care about what Brandon Sorbsby has to go on. I think he's bringing, it would be bringing too much non necessary drama to the Steelers. We're solid, we're a great organization. We have Aaron Rodgers right now. We have two younger quarterbacks that we drafted that haven't been able to even see what they can do and they've been staying out the way. They're not doing anything off the field. They've been working their ass off trying to learn from the coach, trying to get their stuff together and just quietly getting better. Nobody knows how good they are because we haven't been able to see them touch the field. So Aaron Rodgers is going to be our quarterback this year. We have two young quarterbacks that are still grinding, trying to understand the game under McCarthy, getting the whole vibes ready, getting it going, bringing in Brandon Sworesby. I don't think he's like a Andrew Luck, you know what I'm saying? Like type of prospect. He is not, he's not in my opinion.

[James Deebo Harrison]

So I'm like Andrew Luck wasn't gambling.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what I'm saying. Even Andrew like get if you have a quarterback. That's the position where he needs to be another coach on the field. All this stuff when you talk about off the field and doing your research, research is done. People see that he definitely has some problems. He has some things he has to work on. So right now that's not the pick. Maybe when he goes and sits down for a minute, works out his problems, then we could all talk about that coming back. But as a Steelers organization, you have three quarterbacks on your squad right now. If it's the Arizona Cardinals, maybe a team that's just in a bad situation don't have a quarterback, maybe they're willing to take a shot. But with the Pittsburgh Steelers, no, I think they're set at that quarterback position to where after this season we could see what we got with Will and Drew. And then knowing that if we do need a quarterback, we don't have to go get one that has these problems. We can still go do our research and then get, get a quarterback that we want in, in our program. And that's. That's fine. We don't have to be in a rush to all of a sudden, oh, quarterbacks in the thing. No, we're not panicking. We're not tripping. We know, we know. We got. We're trying to get this whole team right. Aaron Rodgers. Now we got Drew, we got Will. We're understand. We. We're good. We're good. All this, this right here is just for a team that doesn't have a quarterback like the Cardinals.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Not only a team that doesn't have a quarterback, doesn't have a team that doesn't have any integrity whatsoever.

[Joe Hayden]

Team that's desperate, desperate, desperate. I'm just like he just bringing in.

[James Deebo Harrison]

That ain't the Pittsburgh Steelers, but quarterback position. GM was talking about it though, and they sound more like a fit than the Pittsburgh Steelers would ever be.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, it's more.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Whose GM was that?

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, you talking about the. Look, he. He just keeping all, keeping all options open. I don't think that would be a good option for us at.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Y' all see how fast Joe realized what I was talking about.

[Joe Hayden]

Get to talk about my man, you know, God, you know, that's why organizations. I mean organization.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Speaking of organization, your organization now or, or. Or some people, I should say reporting Miles Garrett reportedly wasn't universally below a beloved figure that he seemed to be with the Cleveland Browns organization. According to Mary Kay. Mary KB gets some going, man. A true unifier for the team relative to his on field impact. Garrett was reportedly Respected and revered, but wasn't necessarily universally loved by everyone on the roster. Garrett was said to have stuck to a tight inner circle when outside of the team's facility, Cabot added the third year linebacker Jared Verse, who was the centerpiece in the Los Angeles trade package for it. Garrett is expected to be more of a force multiple supply than his, his predecessor. Joe, what do you think of this report from, from, from, from Mary K. Joe, is there, is there any, you know, sometimes we're in smoke, you know, it's fine, you know, and you know what's going on, you know, sometimes, you know, might have a little truth to it. What do you think, Joe?

[Joe Hayden]

I could see it, could have some truth to it. But the thing is like, you know, Deebo, the best player on the team, everybody doesn't have to like him. And at the same time, he doesn't have to be like Miles. Just personality isn't just as much like the most friendliest. Like let's go out and let's just go hang out. He don't hang out with a lot of people and doesn't make him like, not, not a cool teammate. Not like somebody that just. Is he gonna come in here? He has a job to do. He's not really the most like, he might not be into the same things. Miles Garrett likes anime. He likes like car. He likes certain.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Different anime.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So there's certain things that he would like to do that certain other dudes aren't just into. He doesn't like to go out. He doesn't really like to do some of the things that other players will want to do. So with that, with his inner circle,

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[James Deebo Harrison]

Really?

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[James Deebo Harrison]

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[Joe Hayden]

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[James Deebo Harrison]

with Stefano Pallard, head of fan development for Scuderia Ferrari hp.

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[Joe Hayden]

It's strongly American.

[James Deebo Harrison]

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[Joe Hayden]

I'm still working on rolling my R's,

[James Deebo Harrison]

but what I was able to learn from Stefano was the importance of engaging the Tifosi, the Ferrari superfans in the digital age.

[Joe Hayden]

Ferrari fans and super fans want to be part of something, want to belong to something. So they want to be part of a community and ultimately they want to

[James Deebo Harrison]

be part of a winning team. You've got Ferrari, which has a long history, design history, and now you're interacting

[Joe Hayden]

in a kind of digital space. I'm curious how you balance those two traditions. When it comes to fan engagement, it's really digital technology. And digital channels, are they enabled to create a deeper connection with our fans?

[James Deebo Harrison]

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[Joe Hayden]

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[Joe Hayden]

when you're off time, you want to do what you want to do. You know what I'm saying? Like you sometimes hanging out, you just not as kicking it with everybody. But that doesn't mean that you're like not rocking with dudes. When you come into that locker room, you're handling business. You're always on task, you're always on time. You're making sure things are happening. You're trying to be involved and you're being the best player you can be, period. So as far as force multipliers and hanging out and just bringing people together, you can watch. He can lead. Leading is in different ways. You could be a vocal leader, somebody's always talking all the time. But at the end of the day, if you're not bawling and you're just talking dudes like shut the hell up. That's irrelevant. Like you, I don't want you to say anything. You just talking to be talking. If you're balling and you're on your stuff like, oh, I bet let's get the guys like we need you here. That's a different thing. That's cool. But Miles is more lead by example. There's a different, like I wasn't just going to go out there and be able to hey, rah rah rah. Like bringing the dudes together, that's just not somebody's style. You can drop that joint. You going rah rah all that and I'm going here and ball. I'm gonna get six sacks. I don't have nothing to say because like just watch me, watch how I work. You know what I'm saying? I can lead by. This is my way of leading. So I think in other dudes ways and leading of just rah rah, bringing it around, bringing the team around, like giving, giving the good energy. That's all great. But if you're not balling, then I rather. That doesn't matter. That doesn't matter at all. It's just a type of leader that you are. You can lead by vocally talking and still being going out there balling. But the main thing is, the main thing, if you're not creating plays, if you're not being on time, you're not being a true leader by Example by. If I just look at you and see what's going on. That's the way real leaders are. Because you just out there doing what you got to do, handling your business, being a grown man. The talking part is extra. When you're, say, a baller. If you're Miles Garrett and you're able to just. That's just, oh, my goodness, yes. We got a dude that's bringing dudes in, but at the end of the day, even if he didn't do that, the balling is what we need. Him doing exactly what his job is is what we need. So I can understand when dudes are like, oh, no, he wasn't really like, we all. He was revered because he's going to ball the hell out, but we didn't really like him because maybe he didn't have.

[James Deebo Harrison]

It wasn't like, like, this is reported. So on that same breath, she says, though he was respected and revered.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what I'm saying. Because you're going to respect someone when you wasn't necessarily busting his ass and doing his work. You could say love, because you're just not. That. That could be more of a like. Because he's not hanging out.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I want to know who the people are, who these reported people are. I would like to know that. I feel like. I feel like this may be just an opinion. Everybody gotta, gotta, gotta. Well, I ain't gonna lie. We didn't really have it like that when we came up. It was like the whole team hung out. Like, you find us, you know, 25, 30 deep now, it's hard to even find, you know, a group of six, seven deep. You know what I'm saying?

[Commercial Announcer]

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[James Deebo Harrison]

But for. For me, I guess this is where I believe people's people have, like, different opinions or. Or beliefs because of the view or. Or perception that they have. You see what I'm saying? So if you and me is sitting in a room and you sitting over here and I'm sitting over there, we may be looking at the same. We're looking at the same thing, but we got different views. The story you go tell will be different from mine because you had a different view. Both of the. Both of the stories are true.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Okay. And I think that's, you know, that may be something of like, you know, what you have here is. Even if it is people that are saying this, maybe they were looking at it from a different view or they wanted to have a different relationship with him personally. And instead of them going and making an effort to do It. Or trying to figure out what it is that they could do to actually be. Be closer together or have more of a relationship with him. Because the thing is, like, it's not in question. His production, his effort, none of that's in question. Nobody said he was a bad teammate.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, okay.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Nobody actually disliked him. They said, oh, he wasn't a true unifier. Well, she said he wasn't a true unifier. And you know, he wasn't. University love. Who the freak is university love anywhere in this world? Nobody. Yeah, but let's stick to, like, what is true. Miles Gary played nine seasons for y' all boys.

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[James Deebo Harrison]

134 games. That man had 125.5 sacks, seven Pro Bowls, two defensive players of the years. Okay? And you know what y' all gave him in return? Y' all gave him two winning seasons, two playoff. Excuse me. Two playoffs, one playoff win in nine years. So I'll say this. If he lacked any leadership or motivational, they took it from him. In the last nine years, he lost the motivation of being able to continually give you a pep talk while they're getting their ass kicked. I'm dead serious, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

Hey, no, no, no.

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[James Deebo Harrison]

That is here. And every time you telling him it's gonna be better, it's worse. You go and make the playoffs in the next year, you immediately go into the tank. 20. You go into the tank. What is it? 23. You go into the tank. What do you think? He has lost the rah rah. Yeah, he tired of the.

[Joe Hayden]

You're gonna keep. You gonna come in here.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I'm not. I'm. I know what it is. I know what it's going to be. All y' all doing is giving me lip service, man. Nothing is changing, man. You know what you did to get me to stay? You paid me and said, hey, wait and see. If it don't work, we'll get you out of here. Yeah, of course. Verse could be a person that could come in and unify. Look where he came from. He see he has hope. He believes that it could be done. He sees it could be done. He's optimistic. Yeah, but don't worry. Trust and believe.

[Joe Hayden]

Don't do that. Don't.

[James Deebo Harrison]

They gonna take that away from me.

[Joe Hayden]

Don't do that. Don't do that. Keep. He's gonna keep his. Keep his optimism. Keep working hard, try to try to galvanize the troops, and we're gonna see what the details say.

[James Deebo Harrison]

That, man, if he keep playing like he played his rookie year and last year, they Go pay that man. They gonna fan swell and he gonna realize that, you know what? If that's Browns keep Browning, you're going to be in a situation where you're the new Miles Garrett sitting there getting paid hella good money, the most money on the team, and you have no chance of ever winning the super bowl. And you're gonna be trying to find a way to get the hell out of there. Don't nobody want to sit in the game that they love and the ultimate goal of it and never receive it. And you're one of the best to ever play the game.

[Joe Hayden]

Nah, you ain't lying. I mean, the Miles Garrett said that you said is exactly. I could feel it. You gonna keep giving the rah rah speeches and keep coming in there, knowing end of the day you're gonna keep doing what you gotta do. But it takes the other 10 on the defense, takes the other 11 on offense, takes the other 11 on special teams, takes the general manager and the head coach to come in there with the put the team together and have a plan for us to execute and come in to win. So with. I'm coming in here every day, I see the plan. I know what y' all got going. I'm going to do my 1/11 and get all these sacks and do my piece and let. Let's see what it gets to. So, I mean, I'm. I'm with you. When. I just don't think that with Miles, I think that it was. He's not really as a vocal. A vocal leader. He's not. Not a vocal leader. And that's not nothing against anybody. That doesn't matter. You have to be a vocal leader. I think he. In a different way. And when they're saying this, he was respected because he's going. He's doing exactly what he got to do, but galvanizing. And when. When that keeps happening, you keep saying what's going on. It could demoralize your. Your motivation, you knowing that you. You still won't go in there and ball regardless. But the rah rah, it's like this. My head against the wall. I'm about to gotta go ball. That's for sure. And then we gonna go from there. We're gonna go look at the tape. Who was up? Let's go. Let's go edit this. Let's go talk about this, you know what I'm saying? Because I'm going to do my piece. But what do we got to do to win all the rah rahs? That's not getting you to make right,

[James Deebo Harrison]

it becomes window dressing. Dude, you're hearing the same thing every week and getting, getting and getting the same result. Like, Like, I can't. I can't sit here and continually come up with something else. Like, okay, listen. His play is doing his talking. He's like, he may not be a guy that's talkative. I wasn't a guy that was real talkative. But when I talked, I talked. It meant something.

[Joe Hayden]

Like, so when you do say something, you don't want to just keep talking all the time. It's like, when I do say something, it means something. You're going to listen, I'm going to address them. But if you just keep talking, your words just start meaning less and less. Shut up.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Right?

[Joe Hayden]

Like.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Like when the coach. When the coach call up the dude that, hey, man, come on and break it down, you're like, God, I don't know why he called him up here. That more. He weak. He weak with the.

[Joe Hayden]

He don't even believe what he about to say.

[James Deebo Harrison]

You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Hayden]

Come on now. You ain't lying. You ain't lying, bruh.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Yeah, bro. The NFL power rankings, dude. So there's number one after the off season moves.

[Joe Hayden]

That's obvious.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Los Angeles smart and Seattle.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Yo, Joseph.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, sir.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Do you agree with this show?

[Joe Hayden]

Of course. Of course I agree with it. Before they. Even before it was Miles, I thought they were still better than Seattle because they just needed the secondary. They bringing back the same O, and they just needed a better secondary. Trent McDuffie and then the other corner that they got too. Both of them. I think that made them way just a better team because I thought they should have beat Seattle going against them in the NFC Championship, like when they were getting close to going to the Super Bowl. So just if they helped out, that defense kept the same offense. Stafford is still Stafford. I. I like it. Now they got Miles Garrett with the dbs. I think they're. I think they're the best team on paper for sure.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Well, you. Yeah, like I said, you got Miles Garrett. Like, the DB upgrade may not even be totally necessary because now they ain't gonna be able to hold on to the ball as long. I mean, they won't have as much time. You gotta. You gotta dedicate. Not just one, maybe two or three. You know what I'm saying? Like, so that's. That's a big difference. But I'm gonna tell you right now, brother, they got. They got Cincinnati and. And. Sorry. And above. They got Cincinnati at a 9. They got the Ravens at an 11. So 1, 2, Los Angeles, Seattle 3. San Francisco 4, Denver 5, Buffalo 6, New England, 7, Chicago 8. Houston. I don't know how they got Houston, but. Well, yeah, I see.

[Joe Hayden]

How do you know how.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Yeah, yeah. 9, Cincinnati, Detroit 10, Detroit 10. That is crazy. Baltimore 11. Bro, this dog. This is the most unreal disrespectful thing I done seen. Baltimore 8, 9 last year. Cincinnati 6 and 11. I understand.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[James Deebo Harrison]

What has Cincinnati done? Like, they still got defense issues like the linebackers. They ain't did nothing to help the linebackers out. That's who gonna make you. That's gonna make your tackles. You know what I'm saying? Like, just because Joe said it's the most talented team don't mean that they.

[Joe Hayden]

They.

[James Deebo Harrison]

They nine. Now that, that don't. That. That nine in the power ranking. Come on, man. Yeah, you got them above us too at 11. And what is he, three and five. He three and five against us, dude, when we play him well and we make sure he has to pass the ball to beat us and we don't allow Baltimore to run the rock. Dude, what are you talking. And y' all got offensive issues. They lost Lindenbaum, the center. You lost the centerpiece.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, they did.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Like, along with. Come on, man.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm just trying to figure out, Debo, why there's so much disrespect to the Pittsburgh Steelers here. Dude, that's what I'm trying to figure out.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Sleeping on us, bro. They sleeping on us. They don't even realize how much we done did, man. How much we done prove on the offensive side of the ball where we needed to improve. Dude, the defense was not this defense. We're going to be better as a defense. We're going to improve greatly because we have a better coaching staff. Point blank period that are going to add to the players abilities to be able to play this game. And at a technical. At a technical position standpoint and a mental standpoint where they're going to be able to get improvements. Like Jalen Ramsey talked about from his defensive back coach. Like conversations that Jalen had with the DC about the DC being able to explain to him and tell him all the positions so he could get a greater understanding of the defense. Like, what are we talking about here, Joe?

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Joe Hayden]

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[James Deebo Harrison]

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[James Deebo Harrison]

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