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Joe
On August 21st.
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Ocho
I want the vengeance.
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Joe
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Joe
Aaron Donald worked out for the Los Angeles Rams in training camp today. According to Adam Schefter, Donald worked out in the football helmet. He did not wear pants during the workout, but used RAM team equipment and did the workout at their facility that required the Rams to report it to the NFL. And here's McVeigh try. Oh, Ad tried out today. Let's take a listen to what he had to say.
Uncle Joe
I couldn't help but note, like, right before we.
Narrator
We started.
Joe
So I hope you're even aware of this.
Uncle Joe
Like the NFL transaction wire had Aaron
Joe
Donald working out with the Rams today,
Advertiser
which I guess did it come across as a tryout.
Uncle Joe
It did come across as best tryout
Joe
that we've ever had.
Ocho
Okay.
Joe
You think you could make the team phenomenal? I think you can make the kids got a shot.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. That was honestly our way of being able to get a workout with him within the, you know, parameters of. Of what's necessary. But GI Smith said it's the greatest tryout he's ever had. Great. Hey, I. I like it. Huh? I like it. There's a wi. There's a window of opportunity for the Rams. There's a window of opportunity for Stafford to get him one more ring, including McVeigh. Listen, Aaron Donald ain't no fool. He ain't no fool. If there's opportunity for me to get another ring, we. With the addition of Miles Garrett, who's now over here with that offense they had with Puka Devonte and brother Williams at.
Narrator
At.
Uncle Joe
running back. This is it. This is it.
Joe
I don't.
Uncle Joe
Who. Who wants to deal with that every Sunday?
Joe
Grab me 30 million while I'm at that Oo.
Uncle Joe
Oh, come on, man. Stop, man, stop. And. And honestly, it's almost unfair.
Ocho
What you mean?
Joe
Why you say that?
Uncle Joe
You got. You got Miles Garrett on the end. You got Aaron Donald. I mean, man, come on, man, stop playing.
Joe
Ash. What's. What's that? The other DNA. We had him on Young. I think it's Young. We had him on Ocho. Remember? He's from Georgia, worked at work. This. You know, he went out, worked in a supermarket, got picked up.
Uncle Joe
I forgot. I forgot.
Joe
I think his last name is Young.
Ocho
I know what.
Joe
Byron Young sounds about right.
Ocho
Hey, Aaron Donald ain't fooling me on Ocho. His ass he coming back and man, you ain't doing you.
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey.
Joe
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uncle Joe
Ain't showing up the facility for nothing with no helmet on.
Ocho
That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm doing, you know? Hey, hey, hey, hey. I ain't gonna lie. It would entice me too. Hell, if I had Miles Garrett over there, you know what I mean? I'm like, what? I could come back. What? Man, ain't nobody gonna want to see them real.
Joe
The, the.
Uncle Joe
The.
Joe
The thing that. Look, I think it's going to take him a little while because you got to realize he's been away from the game for a minute. So it's going to take him some time for his body senses to see where that wham block coming from. See where that pull that scoop.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
All that stuff Ocho you cut you. Because, yeah, when you get away from it, your spidey senses don't tingle like they once did. He would know, hey, that gap that. That guard open up, he know that wham coming. He know that tight end coming in, that short motion, that crack motion. He know when they would try to scoop it, when they would try to post him. He.
Uncle Joe
He.
Joe
He knew all that. He knew to get skinny.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Ah, nope, nope, nope, nope.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
And the one thing I will say about him, he never give you the whole man. You only getting half the man. He's. He. He half like a wide receiver. Hey, if you watch him at a D tackle, his hands.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Is un. Are unbelievable.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, his hands and his feet. And the funny thing, too. This might be a good thing too, Uncle Joe, for Aaron Donald. Now, I know we say not him not having the spidey senses, him taking some time off, but think about what it's been able to do for his body, too. Allowing his body to heal. Allowing his body to recover. Coming in camp, fresh camp, legs nowhere until body. You know, Even though he might. Even though he might be a year, maybe two years old. I'm not sure how much time he
Joe
had off, but hey, yeah, he might be about 33. Go ahead, Joe.
Ocho
And. And just to kind of piggyback what Ocho was saying. Ocho, you right. You think about it, man. He's been out for so long, them wounds and healed up, you know, he feeling good. You know what I mean? He probably in the right mental space. You know, you ain't been getting your ass beat up. You know what I mean? It's a little different, bro. It's different. Hey, think about it. Yeah. Because if you've been out for two years and you didn't healed up, but you still working out, staying in shape, man, you're gonna always. You're gonna always had an itch to come back and play, you know what I mean? Because he didn't, he didn't leave the game with no significant injuries, you know what I mean?
Joe
No, no, no, no. He did.
Ocho
Nah. No, he come. That man coming back. What?
Uncle Joe
Yeah, that's dope. That's dope. I mean, listen, I'm happy for Aaron Donald. I'm happy for, for the Rams, obviously, the opportunity that they have at their disposal, the window of opportunity. They have to, they have to maximize it. They got to maximize on it now because it won't. It won't be that long. Even just the addition of Aaron Ronald. Aaron Donald in general, along with Miles Garrett. Man, that's. Man, come on, man. That's like you playing Madden, Joe. Yeah, that's like you're playing mad. And you, you know, you, you get. You getting your superstars on one team, on Ultimate.
Ocho
That's cheating though, Joe.
Uncle Joe
Hey, listen, you can't run the ball up the middle. You. You drop back the throw. You got to deal with Miles Garrett. You run the ball, you got to deal with Aaron Donald clogging up the hole. You got, you got a secondary. That's, that's, that's good. They played well last year.
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He.
Joe
35. He turned 30.
Uncle Joe
35. Okay, listen, a 35. Aaron Donald is, is still top three in it, along with Chris Jones and brother and brother Jeffrey Simmons.
Joe
Oh, yeah, for sure. And the thing. Look, I know guard. Some guards are hate like, man, please stay retired. We really. We ain't really trying to deal with you.
Ocho
A handful.
Joe
Like I say, Byron Young. They got Fisk.
Uncle Joe
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe
He can play.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he can play. Yeah, yeah, he nice.
Joe
The line. They got a linebacker. I forget his name. Stockton, is it? Boy, he.
Uncle Joe
Boy, they.
Joe
They got some. They got. They got something on the head. They got something on hand. And that's what you know the guy.
Ocho
Like, you know what?
Joe
But the, the thing I said. Now here, here's the thing, though. Ocho, he said I walked away because I didn't have the desire to train like I trained year round. You think he can summons it up for eight months?
Uncle Joe
Absolutely. Okay, Absolutely. Because I. Listen, someone has to retire for two years. He wouldn't summon it up unless he knew the opportunity made sense. It got to make sense. Not the money. Not the money part. Having to get meetings, waking up early in the morning, coming to practice, cold tub, hot tub, rehab. Just doing. Having to do that after you've done it all these years. There's nothing else for you to accomplish. You arguably might be one of the best defensive players of all time, along with Lawrence Taylor. Yeah, I mean, so what, what were you coming back for? Because he understands that window of opportunity is there for another ring to add more onto a legacy that's already cemented. Whether they lose or whether they win, it's not going to change anything about how great Aaron Donald has been since he's entered the league. It only heightened him.
Ocho
But he coming in to win, though.
Joe
Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, for me, it doesn't change anything. For me, I think he's. I, I think he, I think. Me personally, I think he's one of the, the three or four greatest defensive players. Where you want to rank him. Obviously, for me, it's. Lt is the greatest defensive player that I believe that's ever played the game. I like Reggie time with, with. You know, you don't get very many corners that get mentioned as the greatest ever. But I think you have to put time in there for what he was able to do and how he did it. He made you think about him because he wasn't worried about you.
Ocho
Hey, man, anytime you shut off, anytime you cut off a whole side of a damn field, you're bad.
Uncle Joe
Yes, sir.
Ocho
You're a bad boy.
Joe
Oh, yeah, yeah. He ad is. Like I said, man, he, he, he, he's, he's, he's phenomenal. He's something special to watch. You watch him and you like, wow. Yeah, but I, I think it's, it's just unfair because like I said, I played an era with the defense. They knock hell out you. I could just imagine if they threw the ball back then like they threw it now with the rules the way they are, the way they can knock the hell out the quarterback.
Ocho
Yeah. A lot of these quarterbacks would be out, wouldn't it?
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What?
Joe
Absolutely. The hell out of the quarterback.
Uncle Joe
Absolutely.
Joe
They would knock the quarter.
Ocho
I think now with the rules changing that you can't land on the guy when you sack him. That helps. That helps a lot.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, you can't put your weight on him.
Joe
You can't. You only. Basically, you could only put. And you can't hit it with a cr. Man, you know how many times they put their face mask or their helmet in that quarterback's back or up on his chin.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
No more.
Joe
Go back and look at the hit Wilbur Marshall put on Eric. Eric Hipple flatline and see how many. If somebody, if somebody hit a quarterback like that today, how many games you think. Google that right quick. Don't you tell me, Joe.
Ocho
How is this?
Joe
How many games you think the quarter the. The player would get suspended quarterback in today's game like Wilbur Marshall hit Eric Hipple.
Uncle Joe
Marshall. Wilbur Marshall.
Joe
I will tell you. And he was out before he hit the dirt. And he was out of the pocket.
Uncle Joe
Oh, yeah, the one on Joe Ferguson. The one on Joe Ferguson with that
Joe
Ferguson or Hippo,
Uncle Joe
I think. Hold on, 1985.
Ocho
Yeah, that was Ferguson.
Joe
Okay. Was Ferguson playing with the Lions?
Ocho
Lions? Yeah.
Joe
Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know he's playing with Lions.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, but I'm looking at it now. Play action. Oh, get out that thing. Okay, okay.
Joe
Oh,
Ocho
oh, no.
Joe
How many games you think he get suspended?
Uncle Joe
Oh, he sleep. But he might. That might be. That might be.
Ocho
Hey, he put his helmet on his chin, so I know his helmet hit him. Oh, yeah, that gonna put you to sleep.
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey, I don't think that's. That's a suspension for indefinite.
Joe
That's the whole season.
Uncle Joe
Hey, like that. That's the whole season.
Joe
Hey, go back. The reason why they try unovated to the quarterback. Go look at Bruce Smith. He knocked Boomer sizes out. He jumped outside and they didn't blow.
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He did.
Joe
Go look at it. Go look at what Bruce Smith did to Boomerang Sizer. Knocked him out.
Uncle Joe
Oh, let me find that one.
Joe
That's why they have elevated to the quarterback now Bruce Smith.
Ocho
Who was it he hit?
Joe
Bruce Smith hit Brumal size.
Ocho
It's on here.
Uncle Joe
Oh, they play Buffalo too.
Joe
Oh my goodness.
Uncle Joe
What is the left tackle doing? Who is that?
Joe
I don't know what he was doing, but that's the way they used to play the game back then, Joe.
Ocho
Oh, yeah. If you can hunt like that, there ain't no penalties. Hell yeah, I'm hunting like that too. You can't hunt like that nowadays.
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey. Bruce Smith got such a good jump on the ball on that play. The left tackle didn't even get a chance to move. Hey, Boom ain't have a chance. Right there, boy.
Joe
You see what Turkey and Turkey Jones. Look what. Look up Turkey Jones. How he slammed Terry Bradshaw. If you slammed the quarterback like this today in the pocket.
Uncle Joe
Oh, I. I remember that play.
Joe
Or Charles Martin, he did the same thing to Jim McMahon. Jim McMahon threw the ball, Charles Martin grabbed it.
Ocho
Oh, yeah, you dropped somebody on their head like that. Nowadays boys over with.
Joe
That's. That's the way they used to hear. Can you imagine? And people are. Oh, you the. Look at the numbers that these quarterbacks threw back for the 80s.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Now you see why they threw for those numbers. You think those guys gonna be throwing for like 5, 400 and 500 yards? Hell, no. No, sir. Re. Buddy.
Uncle Joe
No, sir.
Joe
No, sir.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, the game, the game is different now, Uncle Joe. It's. It's different. And it, it allows for, I like to say, inflation. It allows for. Hey, it allows for inflation. The numbers are inflated based on, you know, defense are handicapped now based on the rules. So there's really not much.
Joe
No, they can't.
Uncle Joe
That's why.
Ocho
That's why there's more games now.
Joe
That's what, that's why I say, oh, these guys are so much better than Airway and so much better Marino. Yeah. Let me Reno have these rules. Let Elway them have these rules that these quarterbacks operate under where the defense is receiving.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Like you can't hit the quarterback. You can only hit the quarterback in his numbers and you can't hit it below his. Man, look, I'm glad they changed the rules. It's for the better because, you know, better. We know, you know, certain a number of head hits, they add up over the accumulation. They add up. Guys, we understand that. We're not, we're not. I'm not begrudging them, but I want you guys to take a look and see what the other guys had to endure.
Ocho
Right.
Joe
You just could clothesline a guy, you could head slap a guy. Yeah. Everything goes. It was, it was basically the wild, wild west. It really, it really was. They put a bounty on you. They had to stop it because they put a bounty on you. Buddy Ryan put a bounty on the kicker. They sacked. I think they sacked Troy like 10 times. The Eagles did. Boy, the Eagles had a hellacious defense back then. Oh, yeah, Buddy. Buddy was wild. No, they, they had, they had defenses back then because everybody wanted to be able to run the football and play defense behind it.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
But hey, hey, I still ain't forgave Buddy.
Ocho
Buddy.
Joe
Buddy was the only head coach that came to Savannah State and worked me out. He told me to my face, he said, we're going to take about four or five receivers in the draft. He said, we're going to put them in a bag, we're going to shake them up, and whoever comes out, that's who's going to play. Damn, Chad, go back and look and see how many receivers they took in 1990 and not one of them was named Shannon Sharp. He told me to ask Rex, tell me all the time, said my dad said the number one mistake he made was not taking You. I ain't say I should have been a first round pick, but you mean to tell me I could. They took Freaky Fred. I think they took Freaky Fred Barnett. They took Mike Bellamy. They took. They took another Calvin Williams. They took three receivers.
Ocho
Hey, I got a question. Do you think they took them receivers? Do you think you. You didn't go as high because you went to Savannah State?
Joe
Yes.
Ocho
You didn't go to fbs? That's probably.
Joe
Yeah, yeah, you did. I did. But, Joe, the thing is that when I went to the bowl games, I showed out. Yeah, Yeah, I showed out. Guy couldn't do nothing with me. Showed up there. Chisel. I'm talking about Chisel.
Ocho
What you doing that bowl game?
Joe
See, I freaked them into one on ones when we got practice. See, that's what I tried. That's why I got freaking with him. I got jiggy with it. Show him you had some women. I got jiggy with it. All that press coverage. I ain't trying to do all that. I ain't trying to do that. Devonte.
Ocho
Yeah. Come here.
Uncle Joe
Huh? Get out my way.
Joe
Ain't trying to do all that shaking. I ain't got time. Time, ticket. Because you know, back then. Ocho. Hey, you do this right. Hey, you do this like this right here.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
They're coming up through your chin.
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Quick, quick, in a hurry.
Joe
Coming up through your chair. Man was rough back in the day.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Stefan Diggs. Ocho signs a one year deal with the Washington Commanders. According to Adam shept, the one year deal will be up.
Uncle Joe
What I said, Joe.
Joe
$12 million. Ocho, with Jay Daniels throwing in the ball, can dig. Prove that he's the best number two receiver in the league. Because that's what he said. He said, tell me the number two that's better than me on August 21st. What's your plan?
Ocho
I want vengeance.
Joe
No one does action movies. You got a problem on the ship
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Ocho
Mutiny.
Joe
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Uncle Joe
DUPIXENT hey, listen, and I said this, Joe, I'm not sure if y' all remember that. I said he was gonna go two places and I stood, I stood firm on that. Chad, I know y' all remember. I said he's either and I, and I, and I said this, too, based on where he's from. I said either going to the Ravens or going to the Commanders. It was gonna be one of the two. It was gonna be one of the two.
Ocho
I could, I could have sworn and I could have sworn when we was talking about this, you and uncle was like, oh, man, Iuk, he gonna go to Washington. I'm like, man, Washington ain't feeling who?
Uncle Joe
What?
Joe
Who?
Uncle Joe
I ain't say that. He not, he not going
Joe
this before
Ocho
he did all he had done like one or two antics. But y' all were like, y' all were saying, man, he gonna get picked up watching me pick him. I'm like, man, nobody picking up, picking that man up by that. But I'm happy for Diggs, too. Uncle Ocho.
Joe
Yeah, I know.
Ocho
Unc saying, hell, to be a thousand yard receiver, now here you ain't got to get but like 50 something yards. But he was a thousand yard.
Joe
It ain't the same like it used to be.
Uncle Joe
But, but I, I, I tell you what, I tell you what the good thing about this is. You got scary on the outside. You got Stefan Diggs that gonna be able to manipulate that inside those, those zones and know that that, man, they gonna be able to move that, move that ball up and down the field. And now obviously, Diggs, even coming off a ACL injury, they couldn't cover him in New England last year and they definitely ain't going to be able to come over there, play him to it. Play him to his strengths, play him to the things that he does really well. Man, Jaden Daniel feast.
Ocho
He gonna feast if McDaniel's healthy. Hell, it ain't no guarantee. Look, we know, we know as a Cowboys fan, we Know Washington in our division, man, I know y' all high on Washington. They didn't got dig, but, hell, McDaniels got to come back. He got to show us what he got, Ojo.
Joe
Well, he'll show you. You about to find out. You get up close and personal.
Uncle Joe
Hey, you show y' all.
Ocho
Y' all got Washington better than us.
Joe
The Cowboys, they don't need to be better than y'.
Uncle Joe
All.
Ocho
Well, that's how y' all listen.
Uncle Joe
Y' all listen. Hold on, Joe. Y' all got the better offense, Joe. I'm. I'mma say that. I'mma say y' all got the better offense. But listen, what we not going to do, we not going to forget what Jaden Daniel did.
Ocho
This guy you talking about something about something happened two, three years ago, man. We talking about now.
Uncle Joe
Two, three. He going in. He going into year three.
Ocho
Joe, all I'm saying is he had.
Uncle Joe
He had a.
Ocho
Look, I know he had a hell of a rookie year. I. I get. I ain't taking that from him. But, you know, his second year was. Was built around injuries, bro. You know what I mean? Like, he.
Joe
He gotta do a better job.
Ocho
We got. We gotta see if he can make it through a damn season. That's all I'm saying.
Joe
But you make it seem like Dak Prescott a had no injuries either.
Ocho
Now, when he broke his. After he broke his ankle, ever since then, un. He been.
Joe
He. What about that hamstring that caused him to miss eight games? When?
Ocho
Last year.
Joe
Two years ago.
Ocho
See, y' all talking about old stuff, man. I ain't.
Joe
Oh, this was old stuff with Jaden Daniels. He ain't got hurt this year.
Uncle Joe
Nah, nah.
Ocho
This happened last year with Jaden Daniels. I'm talking about right now.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
Hello.
Joe
Didn't CD Lamb get hurt last year?
Ocho
He got me. He had a little fender bender.
Joe
Oh, yeah, exactly. Way more. One of the more driverless cars. He got to be more careful. Hey, listen, listen.
Ocho
But if CD don't get hurt. For real. For real, you probably don't see Pickens show out the way he showed out, neither.
Uncle Joe
But listen. Listen to me. Joe Pickett is not one of those players that needs a. A volume of catches to get his yards. You throw him two or three balls, man, that might be a hundred yards based on the route. Based on the routes that he run. He gonna take a slant, he gonna take a hit. He gonna give you 20, 30 out of that every time. And then a deep ball. He don't get a deep ball, boom. Before you look up he got three catches. He got 100 yards, not CD, you know, he gonna slant it. He gonna get in that slot, you know, run your stick route, you know, got a little zone. He gonna sit there, boom. Get down. Man, listen, the Cowboys are the better offense, but I like Diggs. I like Diggs over there with the Commanders. He's gonna be. He's gonna be a vital piece of that offense to keep that chain moving. And can't nobody. He could be. He could be in the slot. He could play on the outside. And you got scary Terry. Hey, I'm trying to figure out who the number three is over there with the Commanders. Chat. Damn. I can't remember the number three. Well, he was a two, but he the three now.
Ocho
Ally Diggs over there, bro. I think he gonna be rejuvenated. Obviously trying to have another thousand yard receiving year. I think he gonna be great considering everything that's been surrounding him, going on around him. Uncle Ocho, I think he gonna be locked in, bro. I think he gonna be locked in.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. Hey, I know. I know, D. I know Diz won't see this, man, Dig. Come on, join the show, boy. Oh, yeah, sit down with us, man. Hey, give a. Give us 20, 30 minutes of your time. You hear me? Diggs? Hey, somebody clip this and send it Senator Diggs on Instagram. Hear me? Hey, Diz, come holla at your boy, man. Sit down with us, man, you know? No, look,
Joe
the number that Diggs was scheduled to make last year, Ocho, I just didn't see that. I just didn't see him getting that. Well, he's 25, $30 million. Yeah, I just didn't see him getting that in New England. This is a good number for him. I mean, that's pretty good number. I mean, he probably got about 7, 8 million. Probably another 4 or 5 million dollars in incentives. With that being said, yeah, I just IUK. I just don't know what he hoped to accomplish by doing what he was doing. That's what I don't get. And then, people, this is what I don't get. Free Iuk. What? What are you talking about? Y' all would rather see this man, y'?
Uncle Joe
All.
Joe
Oh, he showed them. He showed y' all where to see this man mess up his money. This man gave up $26 million. Y' all want to see the man mess up his money?
Ocho
Not me, man. Oh, that hurt.
Joe
Oh, don't encourage the man to do foolishness. Come on, Chat. Come on, people. Don't encourage them to do foolishness.
Uncle Joe
Hey, I. I know we young too, uncle Joe, but one thing about the NFL, boy, they don't play no games. They will move on. They will move on without you because they are there. There. There are a lot of receivers that can give you the same production that he was doing without the baggage. Having to deal with the baggage.
Joe
Third of the price.
Uncle Joe
Certain people.
Ocho
Damn.
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey, that's to Esther.
Joe
NFL will move on. I've seen Ocho, you've seen some of the greatest receivers. You, you're not. They'll tolerate you until they can replace you.
Uncle Joe
Come on now.
Joe
I'm gonna say that again. Chad, listen to me. They'll tolerate you until they can replace you.
Ocho
Hello.
Uncle Joe
Oh, yeah.
Joe
Production intolerance. Ask yourself this kind of behavior that Brandon Ayuk is exhibited, is his production worth the tolerance that's gonna come along with it?
Ocho
Hell no. It's over with uncle Ocho. I'm sorry.
Joe
It's over with. It's over.
Uncle Joe
People don't play well.
Joe
I ain't telling what somebody told me. I'm telling what I do. I don't see. I don't see guys act a fool.
Ocho
That's the goal.
Joe
Might get a rattled up out of there.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Hey, I don't, I don't give. I don't care, guys. I don't care. We're gonna do things my way, okay? You got me? You, you got me?
Uncle Joe
Yeah, I like him. I, I, I, I like him. I, I don't. I don't know if, if IUK has a team or he has man, reach
Joe
out to the man. You reach out to everybody.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just, I just, I just, man, he. He's too good.
Ocho
You talking about iu.
Uncle Joe
Hey, Joe. He too good, Joe. Yeah, man, he too good. Man. We talked about route running, huh? We talk about you talking about getting open. Talk about surgical with them routes, man. He be. He belong on somebody team. I just, I, I just. Whatever's going on. I don't know what's going on. I just want him just to X that man and get in camp or even if it's even. It's Back to the 49, Joe. I don't know. Joe. They. They ain't letting him go for a reason, Joe.
Ocho
They not bringing that man in there, bro.
Uncle Joe
Whatever. Whatever you need to do.
Joe
Because I don't want him to get no money because I don't want him to file no grievance and said. I just need him to keep acting like this. Yeah, because I know you want to take this to the Players association and then file agreements. If you have to give your money, we're not going to give you none of this money back. We. What you doing?
Uncle Joe
They acting a fool. Ain't making it no better. They gonna use that against him.
Joe
Thank you. Exactly.
Ocho
Damn.
Joe
Yeah. That's all.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe. He playing a game. This what I. What? I hate to say it. I mean, a lot of people in the chat, you know, they might enjoy it. They see it as entertainment and, yeah, free IUK and all that, but this is. You're not gonna beat the machine.
Ocho
I don't think you.
Uncle Joe
Joe. You never gonna. You never gonna be. You got to. You got to play their game. Sometimes, even when you don't want to, you got to play that game.
Joe
Don't say that. Cause you know the chat. I ain't playing nobody game.
Ocho
Okay.
Joe
You're staying. The NF, they say the NFL made 14 and a half billion. You think they're gonna let a guy that's making $100 million wreck that?
Ocho
No, sir.
Uncle Joe
Ain't nothing getting the way of that boy.
Ocho
And if they can find a way to get some of it back here, they gonna do that, too.
Joe
14. They just cut everybody.
Ocho
Every.
Joe
Every NFL team about to get $453 million.
Ocho
Damn.
Joe
Let me repeat that. The salary cap is 301, 453. Every NFL team? Yeah. Now, mind you, y' all do realize the Seattle Seahawks just sold. Every owner is gonna get a piece of that. Okay, Now, I just cut you a check for 453. You're about to get about, say, a 200 million 300. $200 million. Maybe a little bit more from the sale of the Seahawks. And guess what? I ain't sold the tickets yet, Ocho. I ain't sold concession. I ain't sold no parking. I ain't sold no merchandise. I ain't had not one other concert in there, and I already cleared. I'm about to clear $600 million before I do that. Now, you mean to tell me you think I'm about to let a jack leg, a hard ankle, mess that up?
Ocho
No, sir.
Joe
That's what my grandpa used to call boy. Hey, yeah, See you got no good hard ankle.
Uncle Joe
Hey, I want him to get right, man. I want him to get right. I want to see him on the field. I want to see him contribute. I want to see him, yes, doing what he does, running routes, slicing dudes up, whether it's with the 49ers or whether it's somewhere else. Just. Just tighten up and do whatever you do. I. I don't know. I don't know what he needs to do. I just want to do him on the field.
Ocho
He dealt with an injury, right? What, he tore his ACL or something towards acl?
Uncle Joe
Yeah, it's been, it's been. It's been what, two years now?
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Huh?
Joe
Yeah. Because last year. Well, he tore it like early in the. I think he tore it like week four, week five, two years ago.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
So he missed. Missed the rest of the season. He missed all last season. Most people come back from an acl, ac. I mean, look, let's. Can we just take. Let's just take. This is Adrian Peterson. We gonna send him over here.
Ocho
Oh, man, we compare.
Joe
Nobody ACL injury.
Ocho
That's what I'm gonna say.
Joe
But normally oo, at least after a year, this man was 7 months, cuz he got injured late in December and came back and won the mvp. With that being said.
Uncle Joe
Crazy.
Ocho
Come on now.
Joe
Come on. Iu, get yourself together. Team, family, loved ones, friends. Put your arm around the young man and let him get. Get help. Get him right. He's leaving too much money on the table.
Ocho
But hey, hey, who's to say there ain't nobody done that though? Ain't nobody trying, right?
Joe
You're right, Joe.
Ocho
You know, I just can't say.
Joe
Presumptuous of me.
Ocho
I. I'm saying that because I can't see nobody who's close to him and see him acting out like that, who hadn't reached out to him and tried to, you know, calm that down. Bro, that. I mean, come on.
Uncle Joe
Damn. I think about it, B.A. that might be the one player I ain't got his information. You think, you think he'll respond to me? I sent him a DM on Instagrams.
Joe
Try to see. No, all they could do. Oh, oh. All you can do is reach out.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
You're really going through something, bro.
Ocho
The. The antics.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. Now, hey, listen, I understand, listen. I understand he going through something, but I wanna. I want to see Sticks. Huh? I want to see that number 11 on that field. Boy, you know, I just. I just understand. I know what you're going through, but the machine you trying to fight against, that's a battle you're not gonna win. And I understand that window opportunity is so small. I'm not sure how old he is right now. But you. You're not making it any easier for yourself because you acting a fool, right? And they have your rights and other teams not gonna touch you. But it will. Blackball, man. Man, don't get me started.
Joe
Yeah, I'm a.
Uncle Joe
What I'm for with blackball. You.
Joe
I don't have the kind of relationship that you have with the young. I've been. I've been. I've been going too far. Been going too far too long, Ocho. And I'm not. You know, I don't have no summits or anything like that, so I'm not very familiar with a lot of these young guys. And. Or I would. Or I would. You know, if it's somebody that I got, like, I really knew, I don't really have a problem reaching out. And when I say I reach out, I reach all the way out. I'm gonna. I'm gonna get in contact. I'm not gonna just get in contact. I'm. I'm gonna see you. I'm gonna let you see me.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Because I want to be in your presence. I want you to feel me. I want you to know that I'm there. I want you to know that I'm in your corner. Because sometimes, Ocho, and. And I like to use this analogy. If. If you're 50ft out, Ocho, and I throw you a rope that's 45ft long, how much have I helped you? Sometimes I got to bring the rope all the way to you, Ocho. You see what I'm saying, Joe?
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Sometimes you got to go meet the person where they are.
Ocho
Damn.
Joe
Because a lot of times we like, oh, you. I help you. But you. You need to help yourself. Now you'll go all the way to him. Go all the way to him. I don't know what he's got going on. Some people. Some people can. Can overcome some things, and some people can't. And some people need to know that they got somebody there in their corner that's pulling for them, that's wanting them to do. Like I said, I don't know, Brandon. Iu. I don't. I think he's immensely talented, and I think he's squatted. I think I. I think. I don't know what. What caused him to. To have this distaste in his mouth. Could be that injury, man.
Ocho
You don't know how people. You don't know how people react when they had injuries in the sideline them. And they put them on the shelf. Uncle. Oo. And they can't play the game that they love, that they've been playing since they was 6, 7, 8 years old. You know what I mean? You don't know how A guy gonna respond to that, bro? You don't.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, it's something internally, though, with. With the organization. Something internally is something that hasn't gotten out yet. He hasn't actually said it, but to be going back and forth, you know, with them and. And not wanting to return and actually giving money back. We've never. We've never seen anything like that. We've never seen someone forego that kind of money to say, I don't want to be here. I had.
Joe
I had to grow. Until when? When they gave me too much change at the store. I had to grow in the. Getting that money back before. The longest time I walked right up out of there. I ain't been to hold you chat. I had to grow into that. You gave me too much change when I was younger.
Ocho
Damn. I am. I am.
Joe
In the pocket it went.
Ocho
Yeah, you're better man than me here. They gave me too much. Oo. I just felt it. It was meant to be mine.
Uncle Joe
You see it as a blessing, Joe?
Joe
It's a blessing.
Ocho
Hey, it's a blessing, man. Yeah, you gave me too much. It was meant for me to have that.
Joe
Damn.
Uncle Joe
I got you.
Ocho
I'm with you.
Uncle Joe
You're right, bro,
Joe
but.
Ocho
But it don't make me no bad brother, you know?
Joe
Yeah, that make you a bad brother there, you know? That ain't your money, Joe. That make you a bad brother there. Hey, my grandma was quick, son. Don't do that. God won't bless you. Everybody be wanting to bless him. She thought out that God won't bless you.
Ocho
Hey, hey. As much church as I went to, tithes and offerings, I just felt like if you made a mistake like that, man, that one number. God. Yeah. I mean, yeah.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, it is, it is.
Joe
Look at it. Look at what he do it. Some people do it.
Ocho
Yeah. Yes, he will.
Joe
And I won't give it back. Who about to go against God wishes.
Ocho
Hello.
Uncle Joe
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And you know what? You know, it's funny. I always think about down here in the. In the Florida Keys, you know, along the beaches here, sometimes in Fort Lauderdale. It hadn't really happened in Miami, but in general, you know, people on the beach, you know, they. They relax and Joe. And sometimes ashore, you know, some keys. Joe, you stay with me now. They wash up a shore. It'd be a lot of sometimes. And they call. They be calling the police, turning it in. Hey, hey, listen. I'd be God. I done seen what you've done for others, man. Go ahead, let that wash up.
Joe
I'm gonna Find something to do with it.
Ocho
If it's keys washing up, I can't do nothing with the keys, brother. But, but if it's that, if it's that moolah, huh? Oh yeah, you can do that about that. I ain't gonna hear nothing about packing that in my bag. I'm gone.
Joe
Yeah, I'm hoping, I'm hoping it's a key, you know, I can open up a safe or something with it. I don't need no keys. I need a key. Yeah, yeah.
Ocho
I can't do nothing with no keys, man. I can't do nothing with that. Yeah, yeah.
Uncle Joe
Hey, it just, it just be so funny. But they be turning it, they'd be turning in quick in a. Hey, they reward, you know, they reward. Oh, they reward them with, you know, a bag.
Ocho
Hey, hey, it's funny cause I be seeing people. Oh man, they done found 2 million in their backyard. Why the hell would you call authorities, man? I'm gonna put this under the bed. I'm gonna put this under the bed. Yeah.
Joe
There would be signs that I came into a pot of money. Hey, all of a sudden my house worth about 50,000 and you see a giraffe in the backyard, there might be a sign. Joe, don't you. I came into some money. This man live in a house called 50,000 and he got a giraffe. Yep.
Uncle Joe
Hey, listen, I, I, I, I ain't gonna hold you. Hey, you know, I was looking at some hyenas, you know that, huh?
Ocho
Come on, Joe.
Joe
No, I won't know how you know.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, but hey, you got, you gotta understand, Joe, I'm out here, I'm out west in Miami. So around me ain't nothing but. Ain't nothing but land. You hear me? You know, so obviously I don't have the right license to be able to, to own a hyena cub, but I was just, I was just, I just.
Ocho
Hey, Ocho, it's funny you say that. Cause I've been wanting me a little capuchin monkey for quite some.
Uncle Joe
You don't need no license.
Joe
You want one of the monkeys that
Uncle Joe
hang on, they 1500?
Joe
No, hell no, they're not.
Ocho
They about nine.
Joe
They bout nine.
Ocho
10,000. Yeah,
Joe
come on, 1500.
Ocho
You must go into somebody who working in the, in the backyard in Florida some damn. Well, I'm going to exotic on August 21st.
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I want vengeance.
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No one does action movies.
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Uncle Joe
Hey, listen to me. I got a homeboy in the hood named Leroy. Boy, we can get you Capuchi for 300.
Joe
Look here, huh? Hey, Joe, you best write a mess where I'll show he done got you a baby ringletang. And the next thing you know. Let me take.
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey, Joe, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. I. I don't. Listen, I could put. I could put this out here, but we got. We got boosters down here in Miami. We're not talking about that. We got boosters for animals. We got. Yeah, well, you want a capuchin, I get your capuchin.
Ocho
He gonna have all his shots. He gonna have his shots and all that, huh?
Uncle Joe
You gotta get the shots on your own. Hey, Joe, we can get to the money.
Ocho
The people I've been looking at, they breed them, they buy 8,000 to about 12,000. I want a black cap.
Joe
I want a black cap. Capuchin this, man.
Uncle Joe
You got a lot of room in that, in that palace, huh?
Joe
See, when you got money you don't know what to do with. You see, what you buy, you start buying. You don't. Yeah, a black cap.
Ocho
Capuchi.
Joe
What you mean, Joe?
Uncle Joe
They gonna be jumping on.
Joe
I want a black. I want a black badge Rolls Royce. That's what I want. That's the only thing black is. Black badge Rolls Royce. Hold on Damn Kuchi monkey. Hell, no.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah.
Joe
Now, if you told me, say, hey, you can get your. I get you a raccoon or I get you a holly. One of them little miniature gold miniature cows. Horses. Yeah, something like that. That. I can work with that.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. Hey, you know what, Joe need? Joe, don't get a capuchin because it's gonna be all over the house. You're gonna be able to control it.
Ocho
Hold on, hold on. Get you a lemon when I told you. Now, I used to go to Florida every summer. Okay, Ocho, I should go out there and train, hang out, work. I was back there for like two and a half, three months after some or something. And I had this lady who used to raise them. She brought. She brung like three of them over to the crib. They ain't. Hey, hey. She had them tame. Like. They smart as.
Joe
I don't know what.
Ocho
I want me a black cap capuchin.
Joe
But let me ask you a question, Joe. Are you gonna work with that black capuchin like she worked with him every single day?
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Okay.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Go to get him then. You said that.
Ocho
Hey, my job, My job now, I don't work until at night, you know, I get on at night with y' all did my job. So throughout the day I can hang out with my black cap kapusha. Huh?
Joe
You. Hey, hey, you think. You think. Hey, you think them kids something you want to do? You think them kids had your ass off it.
Ocho
Hey, hey, hello. The lady told me because she spent so much time with him that she don't really have a break, bro.
Joe
They like.
Ocho
They real like kids.
Joe
They are like. Absolutely, yeah, absolutely. Anytime, anytime you get a wild animal, and they are wild animals that you're trying to domesticate, you have to give your. That is all you do. Even with a raccoon. Look, my cousin had a squirrel named Groucho. Had a squirrel, pet squirrel named Groucho. My uncle cutting trees with the punkwood. Cut the tree down, squirrel fell out the nest. My uncle brought it home. They raised it, and he used to. They used to let him go. He climb up the tree, do all that stuff and come back, man. They let Groucho out one day.
Ocho
He never came back.
Joe
Put it with that piece and gone. Damn. Yeah, yeah.
Uncle Joe
Hey, I tell you what, Joe. If you get the capuchin monkey, I'm gonna go through the proper. The legal procedure. I'm gonna get me a hyena cub.
Ocho
What you gonna do with a hyena cub, though, Ocho?
Uncle Joe
I'm A domesticated.
Ocho
I mean, you ain't.
Uncle Joe
Hey, Joe. Hey, listen. Hey, Joe. I didn't looked up. I didn't look at how much it cost to feed him and all. I didn't look up everything.
Ocho
Hyena cub, bro.
Joe
Yeah, well, hey guys, we'll enjoy nightcap while you can because one guy gonna get eaten and the other guy gonna be so damn busy, he ain't gonna be able to do nightcap. So let's go ahead and join nightcap.
Uncle Joe
Hold on, hold on. Hyenas. Hyenas are just like big dogs.
Ocho
I ain't going. I ain't going on lovable. Nah. Yeah.
Joe
Like I said, I want me a little. If you told me I can get me like a mini goat. I mean, a couple of years, I might move somewhere.
Ocho
They got the mini goats.
Joe
I know they. But I. I can't.
Uncle Joe
They be fainting, though. They've been fainting too.
Joe
It was 113 degrees here today. Well, I'm gonna put a mini. Go there a little bit. A little bitty horse. Hey, I want to get me. I get me a borrow. I get me a borrow hog or something, you know?
Ocho
I don't know. I don't know. The goat, the mini goat thing, it sound. It sound good.
Joe
I like my mini gold little mini horse, little mini sheep.
Ocho
I like. I like that. I like all.
Joe
We grew up on a farm. I like hog.
Uncle Joe
We had.
Joe
We had males and we had a durock male named Kelly.
Ocho
Yeah, Kelly could ask. I'm saying what hogs do when you have hogs on your property.
Joe
What they do?
Ocho
What they do?
Joe
Well, my grandfather used to raise hogs. Raise them. I mean, some was for. For us that we killed. My grandfather would kill and eat. And some people sell number one pigs. I mean somewhere between. You want to sell them somewhere between 225, maybe like 270.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Then you number two, so forth. And so. So we had a. A durock male named Kelly. Kelly fought. We had a. A Chester White name Bill. We had a Hampshire named Sonny. Sonny probably weighed about 700.
Ocho
Damn.
Joe
Oh, yeah. We could ride, son. We ride Sunday like a horse. I should have my brother tell you about. So my grandfather, but he had tusks like this here, Joe. And my grandfather, obviously the grandkids started coming over more and my. My grandfather say, you know, he ended up selling it. But yeah, we had. Yeah, we had. We had. We always had name for our halls like Sonny Kelly. Bill Kelly. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey, hey, Uncle Joe. Look, this is. This is actually possible. I need to really look into this, right? If I plan the house of Hyena for commercial, educational zoo sanctuary purposes. Listen, you must register as an exhibitor or dealer under the Federal Animal Welfare act through the usda Animal and Planet inspect.
Joe
I mean, you going too much. You're going too much. Who go? Let me ask you a question. Who gonna take care of him when you're gone? Yeah, his kid.
Uncle Joe
I'm gonna have a handler, but see,
Joe
now he's gonna be used to the handler, not used to you.
Uncle Joe
Well, you know, you know, I'm gonna be here though. So think about this, right? Rick Ross, right? Ross got horses, cows, and he got two bison.
Joe
Yes.
Uncle Joe
Two buffalo. Ah, but he got a handler.
Joe
No, no, no. He have hands to watch his farm. Why he so, I mean, look like if you do dealing with cattle. Ash family. Ash used to have. Ash used to have probably 2,000, 3,000 head of cattle.
Ocho
Damn.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. Dang. Wait, what?
Joe
10,000 acres.
Ocho
Damn.
Joe
Oh yeah.
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Joe
So you have to have hands, but you. But they ain't pets, Ash. Mom, the pants were chicken. The peacocks, those. That's something entirely different than having like livestock. Livestock. Listen, as someone that grew up on a farm, you don't realize how much work it is. You and I know you're not gonna have one because you don't want to spend no money. It's expensive.
Ocho
Hey.
Joe
Because guess what? Animals, they want to get out. They want to go where they want to go. Yeah. And try to keep a. To try to keep cattle. Now cattle a little bit easier to keep in maintain than say hog. Hogs gonna root. They go. They gonna root your feet up. They gonna get out. They gonna go. They got a mind of their own. They're gonna do the hell they want to do. But with that being said, Ocho. Nah, you ain't get you a. You don't want that.
Uncle Joe
Hey, you know, you got to think about it too. You, you think about a high full grown hyena. We talk about a hyena as, as a cub.
Joe
He gonna get big. Would you gonna get a pygmy hyena?
Uncle Joe
No, I'm. I'm just saying, I mean he, he'd be domesticated at that point in train.
Joe
No, you do realize oo they thought Monte Core, Siegfried Roy. They thought those were domesticated, didn't they?
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
See, they train and put. Making them do all them tricks and stuff. Shoot, I'd be.
Joe
So let me ask you a question. What are you gonna have him do? What you gonna have? What you gonna have him do?
Uncle Joe
Chilling. Just. Just relaxing at home, you know.
Joe
You know. No, that's not a cat.
Uncle Joe
That's a cat you ever heard of. You ever heard.
Joe
Yeah, I know, the hyenas. Yes. But you got to realize, Ocho, any animal of. I don't care what it is. He's gonna do, eventually, he will do what he was intended to do. That's why I tell people when they watch the Westminster dog show, they say, oh, that's a pretty dog. Oh, I want to get that dog. That dog is going to do what it is intended to do. You go get a border collie, and then you wonder why you got your kids riding up in the damn corner. Because that's what he does. He heard,
Ocho
Hey, that's a good one.
Joe
Oh, the dog. The animal gonna do what it's intended to do. Got the kids. You ain't heard him from them. They cried. He. He done cornered him. That's what he does. Hey.
Uncle Joe
Hey. I come home, man. Hey, the goddamn h. Come on, man. Fry, man. I. I had. I had to kill.
Ocho
Cuz, guess what? If you don't kill him, a French fried mama gonna be killing you.
Joe
Hell, yeah, for sure.
Ocho
All right.
Joe
O. Joe. CD Lamb is trying unconventional methods to make his hands more reliable and eliminate the drops. That included introducing viewing obstruction while working on the jugs machine during the Cowboys training camp. Let's take a listen to what he had, what he showed.
Uncle Joe
I like that. What is that, a plastic bag?
Joe
That's a beekeeper. Yeah, it's a beekeeper net.
Ocho
Okay. Y ain't never use that when y' all playing?
Joe
Hell, no, Joe.
Uncle Joe
I only. Joe, I only had one eye, man. I ain't.
Joe
But here's the problem that he has, Ocho, is that when you're doing the jug machine, you need to have people touch you, because what. What causes your body to tense? What causes you to. Footsteps? Yeah, guys come in. Safety, corners, linebackers.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, people.
Joe
So you need to have people on. You have people doing stuff, hands flashing in front of you.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
So. Because with things like your eyes move.
Uncle Joe
I like that drill, too. Cd. CD Had a small case of the drops. What, maybe a two, three game stretch? Yeah, but, I mean, he's some. He's always been. Been one you could rely on, you know, to catch the ball. And when he got the ball in his hands, ain't no telling what's gonna happen.
Ocho
He.
Uncle Joe
He can. He won. The few receivers run at the catch. He's phenomenal with the ball in his hand. So I. I like that drill. I like that drill.
Joe
Yeah, he. Ocho, I. But I still believe you try to. You try to simulate.
Uncle Joe
Simulate, Right. Game.
Ocho
In the game, you can't do it.
Joe
Guess what? You think you will be that wide open in the game catching passes on you?
Ocho
Hell no.
Uncle Joe
Unless they blow a coverage. That's about it.
Joe
Exactly. Exactly. So you just try to simulate. I mean, hey, you get guys bumping you with. With the bat, with the. The dummies and stuff like that to get your body used to, you know, taking shots when you get hit.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
You know, throwing you off and your eyes moving, your body moving. You just got to get used to stuff like that. You try to put yourself in as many football related situations as you possibly can when you're catching or when you're doing something that's football related when you're not on the field. That's why we say, Ocho and I, we tell them all the time, you get in shape playing football. You out there running. You out there running. One win, Spence. Ain't got one helmet, one shoulder pad on or nothing. Ain't got no cleats, which you're gonna run when you're on the football field. You're gonna have old cleats, you're gonna have a shoulder pad and you gonna have a helmet.
Uncle Joe
Yep.
Joe
Tell guys that's how you get in shape. You get in shape playing football. George Pickens tried, was done with. Let's take a. Let's look at what.
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey, man.
Ocho
Hey. That must been incorporated. They must been incorporated in CD Lamb training this whole out city because Pick. Pick look like he know what the hell going on. That ball was going straight through his hand.
Joe
What you. Yeah, well, sometimes guys, my thing is, is that on the jug machine, I try to put the jug machine on what I think my quarterback could throw. I'm not gonna have the jug machine running 50 miles an hour when the quarterback can't throw 50 miles an hour. So it doesn't make any sense, Ocho.
Uncle Joe
Right. You're right.
Joe
See, guys, I need guys to do things that are football related. It might look good. It's gonna help me get better on the football field, Ocho.
Ocho
Right.
Joe
That'd be like you, Joe, going out there shooting a 20 pound med ball. What is shooting a 20 pound med ball gonna do for you, Joe?
Ocho
Ain't gonna do a whole lot, man.
Joe
Is it football related? It's gonna help me get better at football. That's all I'm trying to do. I'm trying to do every. Whatever I did were trying to help me get better. At football, especially with a drill like that, when you got the football. Now if you run it, if you running on your. You know what I'm saying? You running sprints and things like that. Sometimes guys would carry a football. A lot of times running backs carried the football when they were running sprints. But for the most part, wide receivers, we not carry the football. Are we working on speed drills? We doing a skip, we do a B skip. We doing, you know, side right, Things like that. Okay, that's. I get it. I get it. But this drill. Nah. Pig said, hell with this, man. This all ucd. Take off with it. Pig say. Pig said. Hey, Pig said, look here, if I drop, if this ball cover this fast from this close, I'll go drop it again.
Ocho
Hello, we in trouble.
Joe
But, but look, I. I commit CD knowing I got an issue with concentration. Yeah, let me work on the concentration. Let me get better at that and see if it can occur, if it could carry over on the football field.
Uncle Joe
Hey, and you know what I'm dropping from too? Taking them eyes off the ball too soon. Every time. Taking them eyes off the ball too soon.
Joe
Try to get up out of there
Uncle Joe
before you got it. Yep.
Joe
Well, we knew one of these balls were going to drop. The Falcons and Bijan Robinson have agreed to a three year extension worth up to 75 million. 51 million guaranteed. 31 at signing. The base value, 66.75 makes Robinson the highest paid running back in the league. And the average basically leapfrog, which we thought he would what both of those guys would leapfrog. I think the other guy was just waiting on one of the guys to sign. Jameer Gibbs is on deck. Ocho, how much of the lines regretting not paying Jameer Gibbs after seeing what Bijan just made?
Ocho
I don't.
Uncle Joe
I don't think they regret it at all. Because whatever he's supposed to get, he's gonna get anyway. And the fact that Bijan has signed his first, I'm sure, I'm sure J. Gibbs is going to leapfrog that. Maybe not by much, but he's going to reset the market. And you look at, you look at all the running backs. I think he'll be the last one. Excuse me. He'll be the last one to get paid that amount of money. Being that he is a tier one running back. So they're gonna allow him to reset the market. I don't like the fact that it's taking so long.
Ocho
Hey, he gonna get more than Bijan.
Joe
Yeah, yeah.
Uncle Joe
Yes, sir.
Joe
Hell yeah. Cause I signed out to be John. I would tell, because they were just looking. They were just looking to leapfrog. They need to break. They need to break that. That 20 million saquon was 20.6.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
So he goes 22. 5.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
He gonna look. Be looking to get 23 and a half, 24 million. I think the biggest thing he's gonna look to get Jeremiah Love. Jeremiah Love got 53. His whole contract is fully guaranteed, which is 53 million. I think Jameer Gibbs gonna be looking to get 54, 55 million guaranteed.
Ocho
Hey, hey. Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Especially being that Jameer Gibbs is proven. Jeremiah Love hadn't.
Ocho
Hey, Jeremiah Love ain't played a snap. But here, you know, the. The. The younger you are at that running back position, Uncle Ocho, you know, the. The more value you have, you know what I mean? Like, once you've been running for a few years, bro, you know, it started to, you know, it's a little disdain on you because they don't. They don't really hold high. Regards to the running back no more. You have to be more than just a run. You got to be able to catch that thing out the backfield, huh? You got to be able to do a multitude of things. Now, you can't just be no runner.
Uncle Joe
No. Yeah.
Joe
No.
Uncle Joe
And. And them. And them two, we talking about.
Ocho
Oh, yes.
Uncle Joe
They can do more than just run.
Joe
Yeah, I think that. Yeah, I think. I don't know what. What. JT's Jonathan Taylor. I don't know if he signed one recently. We know James Cook got his taken care of last year. Ocho, huh?
Uncle Joe
Yeah, he waiting too. If I'm not mistaken, Jonathan Taylor.
Joe
Oh.
Ocho
Oh, yeah. That boy been eating.
Uncle Joe
He nice, too.
Joe
He got speed. He got speed to burn.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, he could go, man.
Joe
It's something about the Wisconsin. I mean, they like hit or miss.
Uncle Joe
Remember. Remember the one from Wisconsin, last name with Michael? Michael.
Joe
Are you talking about Melvin Gordon?
Uncle Joe
No.
Joe
You talking about Melvin Gordon?
Uncle Joe
No, I'm talking about Bennett.
Joe
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Michael Bennett.
Uncle Joe
Yeah,
Joe
I know you're talking about. Yeah, like Rondane went to. Yeah. Went to Big. Ron Dane went to Wisconsin. Yeah, yeah. Melvin Gordon went to Miss Wisconsin. They had one, the running back.
Uncle Joe
Wisconsin too, huh? I didn't know that. Melvin Gore was nice boy.
Joe
Oh, yeah, yeah. They had a bunch of them go down. They had. They had one of the running backs there from Denver. He went to ball. Monte Ball.
Uncle Joe
I remember Monty Ball.
Joe
But yeah, I think. I think Gibbs. I think Gibbs comes in about 23 and a half, 24 million with about 54 to 55 guarantee. Probably gonna be looking to get 40 million at signing.
Ocho
Damn.
Joe
Hell yeah. And plus he from the crib.
Uncle Joe
It makes sense.
Joe
Anybody from the crib?
Uncle Joe
As a matter of fact, Ronde, the
Joe
Heisman Trophy was 1999.
Uncle Joe
It should have been P Dub that year. Wasn't that, wasn't that Peter Work year 99?
Joe
Ron Dane. I, I, I mean it might have been. It was that the year they got, they got ended up getting suspended. Him and Laverneus Coles got suspended. Don't yo.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, for the, for the.
Joe
Yeah, okay.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, I think PW was supposed to win that, that year, boy.
Joe
Yeah, Jamal Charles went to Texas, but what you call it? Melvin Gordon went to Wisconsin. Welvin Gordon had, I think he rushed for like 400 yards and then LT broke the record with 400. And then Samaji P. Ryan came right behind him and broke it again with like 423.
Uncle Joe
In one game?
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Damn.
Joe
You remember what you call him? Had 400 yards receiving of the game. Who was that? The dude from Law Tech, played with Pittsburgh
Ocho
in a game. One game. He had 400.
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
And who the hell in the game?
Joe
What was his name, the wide receiver? Edwards. Yeah, LA tech. He put 405 on Nebraska. Joe Ocho.
Ocho
Damn. 400.
Uncle Joe
Hold on. Well, as soon, as soon as I, as soon as I see his first name. Hey, chad, who had 400 yards, man for La Tech?
Joe
Troy Edwards.
Uncle Joe
Oh, Troy Edwards. Okay, okay. I remember Troy.
Joe
He was small. Yeah, yeah.
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Date: August 6, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson
Podcast: Nightcap (Shay Shay Media & Playmaker)
Hour 2 of Nightcap features Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson’s unfiltered takes on huge NFL offseason moves: Aaron Donald working out with the Rams, Stefon Diggs signing with the Commanders, CeeDee Lamb’s unconventional training methods, and Bijan Robinson's record-breaking extension. The hosts dive deep into the implications, reminisce about old-school football, debate modern player empowerment, and keep things lively with stories of farm animals and dream pets.
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High-energy, barbershop-style real talk with football wisdom, playful banter, occasional nostalgia, and straight advice for players and fans. Shannon and Ocho keep it honest, mixing insights from their own careers with candid commentary on today’s NFL landscape.
This episode is a can't-miss for fans wanting real NFL analysis, player perspective on contracts and comebacks, behind-the-scenes stories, and that special blend of hard-hitting sports commentary with humor only Ocho and Unc deliver.