Nightcap Hour 3: Tim Hardaway Sr. NOT Un-Retiring #10 Heat Jersey For Hardaway Jr. + NBA Testing NEW Free Throw RULE

Summary

Nightcap Hour 3: Tim Hardaway Sr. NOT Un-Retiring #10 Heat Jersey For Hardaway Jr. + NBA Testing NEW Free Throw RULE

Podcast: Nightcap
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, Joe Johnson (“ISO Joe”)
Date: July 3, 2026

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Episode Overview

This high-energy, late-night episode dives into major NBA conversations: the generational pride and pressure surrounding retired jersey numbers, the Miami Heat’s signing of Tim Hardaway Jr., and a new NBA free throw rule. The hosts also banter about athlete legacies, parenting, and answer listener questions on football, soccer, and more—all with Nightcap's trademark candid and humorous style.

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Main Topics & Key Discussions

1. Tim Hardaway Sr. Refuses to Have #10 Jersey Un-Retired for His Son

[03:37 – 12:13]

• News Recap: Tim Hardaway Jr. signed a one-year deal with the Miami Heat but his Hall of Fame father, Tim Hardaway Sr., refuses to have his #10 jersey “come down from the rafters” for him.
• Host Takes:
  • All three—Ochocinco, Joe Johnson, and ISO Joe—agree that a retired jersey is "off limits," even for family.
  • Quote:
    • Joe Johnson: “Make your own damn way. That is my number... I put in too much damn work to get my jersey put up there.” (04:10, 06:40)
    • Ochocinco: “You need to get out of my shadows, my boy... Create your own legacy.” (05:12)
• Discussion:
  • Wearing a parent’s storied number brings unfair pressure and constant comparison.
  • Shared personal stories about parenting, pride in legacy, and not wanting their kids to be tied to their own greatness.
  • The rarity of father/son Hall of Famers, and the cultural importance of “making it your own.”
• Memorable Moment:
  • Hosts poke fun at sentimental ideas: “As sentimental as it may be... I don’t think any junior should want to be in the shadows of his father.” (07:54, Ochocinco)

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2. Generational Differences & Parenting Athletes

[11:26 – 23:16]

• Theme: What it was like growing up with less, and how that “builds character”—versus the easier life most pro athletes’ kids have today.
• Recurring Joke/Quote:
  • Joe Johnson: “Hard times create tough men. Create easy times. Easy times create weak kids.” (12:05)
• Lively, nostalgic talk about washing clothes by hand, heavy “floor model” TVs, drinking water from the well, and showing their kids their childhood homes.
• Parenting Today:
  • Struggles with getting kids to do basic chores and managing expectations.
  • The contrast between working hard for opportunities versus "soft fairy tale ass life" of their own children.

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3. NBA Rule Change: One Free Throw for Multiple Points

[28:52 – 30:25]

• Rule Explained: In NBA Summer League, any foul leading to 1, 2, or 3 free throws results in a single attempt, worth 1, 2, or 3 points, respectively (except final 2 minutes of 4th/QT).
• Host Reactions:
  • Joe Johnson: “I like it. It’s pick-up style... speeds the game up. Instead of three free throws for a foul on a three, you get one shot for three points.” (29:20)
  • ISO Joe: “You’re gonna have guys who could have missed the next two but get all the points with one.” (30:03)
  • Ochocinco: Likes efforts to keep the pace fast and the experimentation in Summer League.

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4. Q&A Segment: Hot Dogs, Free Agency, and Athlete Greatness

[30:25 – 44:50]

• Joey Chestnut & Hot Dogs:
  • Banter about competitive eating.
  • Ochocinco: “My minimum is four [hot dogs]!” (31:48)
• NBA Free Agency:
  • Raptors mentioned as “winning” FA if Kawhi stays healthy.
  • Philly’s trade for “JB” (Jalen Brown) called “the biggest one this summer.” (33:12)
  • Speculation about Giannis, Celtics, and the ripple of major player moves.
• Soccer: Ronaldo, Messi
  • Hosts reflect on athlete aging.
  • Notable Quote:
    • ISO Joe: “They only compare you to your younger self.” (35:41)
    • Ochocinco: “He’s older now, he just can’t do it like he once could. He’s still good. The question is can he summon it up four more times?” (36:40)

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5. Player Media, Legacy, and Modern Narratives

[41:26 – 43:09, 56:31 – 58:16]

• Controlling the Narrative:
  • Discussion around athletes (like JB) launching podcasts and having direct voices.
  • Ochocinco: “His podcast is the problem. Him having a say is the problem. They don’t like that we can’t control him.” (56:38)
• Host Insight:
  • Playing while balancing media/public presence would be hard—“I know I’d be too locked in,” Joe Johnson admits. (43:09)

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6. NFL Money & Roster Building

[58:59 – 60:10]

• Talk about NFL salary cap realities, paying young stars, and how winning often means teams can’t keep everyone because of rising contracts.

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7. Malice at the Palace

[62:54 – 63:55]

• Reflecting on the famous NBA brawl, with Joe Johnson saying it’s impossible to predict how you’d react in that situation, given the high emotions.

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8. Olympics: USA’s Historic Basketball Wins

[65:34 – 68:46]

• Recap of the 2024 Olympic games vs. France and Serbia—highlighting incredible moments from Steph Curry, LeBron, and KD.
• Standout Play:
  • Joe Johnson: “The shooting performance Steph put on those last couple minutes... that might be one of the greatest moments in Olympic history.” (66:26)

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Memorable Quotes & Banter

• On jersey numbers & legacy:

  • Joe Johnson: “You hold on. You talking about mine in the rafters and you want me to bring mine down so you can wear it? Nah, hell no.” (04:17)
  • Ochocinco: “I laid the foundation for a reason, so my name and that jersey can go up in the rafters. You ain’t finna pull it down.” (05:12)

• On being a retired star watching your child:

  • Joe Johnson: “My son went to my same high school... don’t never ask me for that [jersey].” (06:24)

• On father-son Hall of Famers:

  • ISO Joe: “Ain’t a whole lot of father-sons been in the Hall of Fame. Not in basketball.” (10:12)

• On generational parenting:

  • ISO Joe: “Hard times create tough men. Create easy times. Easy times create weak kids.” (12:05)

• On free throw rule:

  • Joe Johnson: “We got the next generation coming in. I don’t mind this, Uncle Ocho. It’s going to keep the pace of the game fast.” (29:20)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Hardaway Jersey Discussion: 03:37 – 12:13
• Generational Differences & Parenting: 11:26 – 23:16
• NBA Free Throw Rule: 28:52 – 30:25
• Q&A/Free Agency Talk: 30:25 – 44:50
• Athlete Media & Legacy: 41:26 – 43:09, 56:31 – 58:16
• NFL Roster/Salary Cap: 58:59 – 60:10
• Malice at the Palace: 62:54 – 63:55
• 2024 Olympic Games Reactions: 65:34 – 68:46

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Other Notable Moments

• Joe Johnson, Ochocinco, and ISO Joe’s chemistry and good-natured ribbing keeps even the serious discussions lively.
• Humorous debates about parenting, “freak rankings,” and aging as pro athletes.
• Soccer talk: Ronaldo, Messi, and media narratives about greatness and decline.
• Nostalgic stories from their youth bring realness to discussions on success and legacy.

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Tone & Style

• Loose, irreverent, warm, and honest—the hosts blend sports analysis with real-life wisdom, dad jokes, and unfiltered commentary.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode dives deep into legacy—whether jerseys in the rafters, the pressure on athletes’ children, or the way rules and narratives are changing in pro sports. No topic is off-limits, and the mix of humor, story, and authentic perspective makes Nightcap’s deep-dive on the NBA, NFL, parenting, and athlete culture a must-listen for sports fans who value both insight and entertainment.

Transcript

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

Tim Hardaway Jr. No. Tim Hardaway senior told his son there's no way he'll let him rock the retired number 10 jersey for the Miami Heat. My legacy is my legacy. Even though he likes to wear number 10, that is not coming down from the Raptors. Tim Hardaway Jr. Signed a one year six and a half million dollar deal to join the Heat. Joe Ocho, is this foul or.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, no, I agree. I'm with him. Look,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

you ain't gonna let your son go. Go, go, go.

[Joe Johnson]

Make your own damn way. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That is my number. I've been wearing that number for the longest joke.

[Joe Johnson]

Hell no. No, My, my. You hold on. You talking about mine in the rafters and you want me to bring mine down so you can wear it? Nah, hell no. And then we're gonna put it right down. Cause see, when I was wearing that number, I put it on the show. You hear me? I was doing my one, two. You hear me? I had this thing jumping. You know what I'm talking about, man. Nah, man, leave that up there. Now listen, what you can do is find you a number that you like and that you can go out here and slay something in. And then it can be up there next to mine when you get a chance.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It ain't gonna be up there, Joe. Cause he ain't got what happened?

[Joe Johnson]

I'm sorry. I don't know what you want me to tell you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Ocho, Ocho, Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I know you're gonna let your son with that number 85 if they had that thing. Nah, you ain't gonna let it wear it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Absolutely not. Listen.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, hey, hey, hey, hey.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

I understand. Tim Hardaway, Senior. Listen, Junior. Hey, you got a crazy identity.

[Joe Johnson]

What?

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

You need to get out of my shadows, my boy. Listen, handle your business. I did all the work. I laid the foundation. I laid the foundation for a reason. So my name and that jersey can go up in the rafters. You ain't finna pull it down.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Ojo, I'm trying to. I'm trying to take some of this damn pressure off you, too, okay? I'm trying to take a little bit of this pressure off you. Don't wear my number because, see, they gonna want you to perform a certain way. You hear me?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He done. But he done wore number 10 in high college, high school, NBA.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't taking mine down for. Nah, hell, no. No, I would.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, you look, if I.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

If I.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

If my son went to Savannah State and played ball, I let it work. Nah, nah, my son wouldn't want that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Right?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Because he knows what comes along with it. For you to take somebody number. And, you know, he was what. That's why I got. Hey, I want. I was him. My brother wore number three in high school. Let me get that. Yeah, he was number two in college. Let me get that.

[Joe Johnson]

You know.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, I can't believe you, Joe. I can't believe you ain't gonna let. You ain't gonna let Junior.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hold on. My son went to heist. He started high school. We started high school in Little Rock. He went to my same high school. I went to Little Rock Central. When we go in the gym every day, you see that 24 Johnson hanging up there, but, boy, don't never ask me for that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

You.

[Joe Johnson]

I put it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I put in too much damn work

[Joe Johnson]

to get my jersey put up there.

[Tab Ramos]

Huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Y' all see Joe now? Y' all see a different side of Joe now.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that's the only child in me chat. My bad. That's the only child. I'm a little selfish when it come to that. I worked hard, man. I put a. Blood, sweat and tears. You hear me? Boy, you better go, hey, get you a number that you like, and hopefully one day you can have it up there next to mine. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Hey, now we. Now we talking. Now we talking.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I. I said that, but I. I know my. My son wouldn't take it. My son didn't want to play football. He played soccer. He played baseball. He really didn't play any of the sports.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hey. Okay. Oh, yo, my son wouldn't dare ask me that. He wouldn't dare ask me because he knows See, Chad, let me tell y' all something. I'm a humble young fella, but to my kids, my daughter, who was 12, my son 18, right. They probably think I'm the biggest talker they ever met. You hear me?

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get to my oldest. I get to it. But, hey, hey, when we out there in the yard shooting jumpers, playing one on one. Yeah. Hey, he get an earful.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

So.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he wouldn't ask me because he know I'll be on his ass after every game. Damn, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What is. What is that? Yeah, hey, let me get that. I gotta put that back up there because you make it look bad.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Yeah. Hey, you know. You know what? You know what I would think, as cinema, as sentimental as it may be, where, you know, a senior and a junior actually win in Jersey and what it may mean, I. I get that part, but I don't think any. Any junior should want to be in the shadows of his father. I. I just don't. Especially wearing a number. Creating your own legacy, create your own identity while playing the same sport that your pops did. I think it's much better. As opposed to being court.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, it's. It's count, but you got to look at it from us, from a standpoint, like, you know, if that's your hero, like, you know, his older brother was his hero, so he wanted to be just like him. That's like your son. I can see what I'm talking about. You know, son growing up, he wanted to be just like his dad. Man, I want to wear number two just like you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You feel me?

[Joe Johnson]

But at the same time, I'm like, man, listen, man, you got to go out here and create your own lane, partner.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But you sound like your sister. Bye. Bye. Bye. My sister gets so mad, she like, I'm tired of this, Shannon. You need to be your own man. Be yourself. You ain't got to do everything like, hey, you ain't got to do everything like that. My sister gets so bad. She like, oh, used to make me so bad.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But I was surprised. I was like, cuz, I. He been getting beat up on social media. He's been taking some criticism. But I was like, I say, I wonder what. I wonder what Joe and Ocho gonna say. I thought. I thought, Joe, you gonna say, yeah, I let. I let him do it. I thought you was gonna say it too, Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't gonna lie, bro. I'm. You know, all my kids, I'm a little different, you know, I. They see the real me. They, they, they. They know. They know I'm be talking some. Okay, Ocho.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Joe. But he's had that number from high school, college, NBA. Every team he's been 10. Kudos.

[Joe Johnson]

Kudos, son. You've been doing. You've been doing a damn good job. But if you think I'm gonna have you folks bring this jersey down, huh? And you wear my.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And you, sir.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, come on.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

And then think about it, Joe. Think about how good you were. Right? Think about how good I was when I played. Could you imagine Junior getting that number in the backlash and the scrutiny he

[ISO Joe Johnson]

gonna get if he don't he go out because. And then, Then you gotta deal with

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

the pressure of the comparison over and over. Oh, no, you don't want to do that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I would hope. And you would have an inclination, Ocho, after watching him, like, you know what? I think he can live up to it. It's kind of like. But because it's hard because your dad's in the hall of Fame and normally fathers and sons, not very many of them is made the hall of Fame. So that's the standard. What you measure. Ain't a whole lot of. Ain't a whole lot of father sons been in the hall of Fame. Yeah. Not in basketball. I think maybe. What is it? Brett. Brett and Bobby Hall. I think they might be the only father son. I don't think there's any. And I'm trying to think. No. Bobby and Barry. Bob is in. Not Bobby. Not Barry. I mean, Barry. No, neither one of those. Neither one of those in Griffey Junior's in. Not Senior.

[Joe Johnson]

Do y' all know what it is?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't think Moises. I don't think Moises is in. Big Moises or little one Fielder. Prince Fielder. Cecil. No. Maybe Vlad and Vladdy Junior. Vlad is in. Maybe Vladdy Junior's playing well enough. He could get in. But it's. It's a rare.

[Joe Johnson]

You know why? Hey, hey. We. We come up in a different era, bro. You know what I mean? We. We had to go through some rigorous times, most of us. The majority of us. And then once we make it, what we do, we create this soft fairy tale ass life for our kids.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

And you trying to raise a dog in the kennel now. Hell no. He ain't gonna get no dog like that. You need it. You're gonna have to be out there in the field. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Oh, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hard times create tough men. Create easy times. Easy times create weak kids.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Them facts.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And then guess what? It has to be hard all over again.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And you start the process all over again.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hey, look, I run into all these ex NBA players, bro. Cause a lot of our kids played in like, a lot of these same tournaments, and we all got the same damn story trying to aa. Trying to put a battery in their back. Hey, man, you gotta take this serious. You gotta take it personal. You got. Hell, they ain't grow up like you, bro. They don't understand the sacrifices that your parents had to make for you to be out there. You know what I mean? They ain't had that rough life, man. It makes a huge difference.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hell, yeah, for sure. When you go into the well to get water, as opposed, you can go put your glass in front of the refrigerator and cool water come down. Yeah, it is, bro. You got nice glasses. We drink it out of mayonnaise and jelly. Hello.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Different.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

I remember them days.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You'll wash your clothes and dry them. Wash something and think you're gonna get it, you better hang it up. But hopefully some really, really hot that day. And hopefully it'll be dry by the time you want to go out there. Hey, Hey. I don't know what y' all talk.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hell yes. It's very different.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, that's a good one.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And so it's. It's a. It's a different mindset. It takes a bear. And we talk about this ocho. We talk about demandings. Their daddy was Archie. They lived in a nice. A nice home. They were upper middle class, if not wealthy. And both boys say, that's not.

[Joe Johnson]

We want our own identity. That take a lot, bro.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Tab Ramos]

Mm.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Absolutely. They did it. And then you like, hold up. My grandpa was this. My dad got. Now, Peyton. Look at the pressure that's on Peyton's son.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

My granddad was the number two pick in the draft. My dad was the number one overall pick in the draft. My uncle was number one overall pick in the draft. If I ain't taught one or two, I'm terrible.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

You know, they go. They gonna make. They gonna make sure he is, though. You know how that work.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You see Cooper, son. Cooper, like my granddad was the number two. I got. I got both of my uncles with number one.

[Joe Johnson]

That's his son in Texas, right?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's Cooper. That's the older brother son.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

He probably.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Peyton is the middle Eli.

[Joe Johnson]

He probably was destined to have one since he. The older one was nice too, though, wasn't he?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He was nice, but he had a neck injury. Yeah, he was a receiver, though.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Peyton was the quarterback. Yeah, but it's tough. It's tough to try to. And people ask me that all the time. How do you. I was like, it's hard. Hard. It's hard. They got TVs on the wall. You mean we have float, what we call them floor mode TVs. And we normally have a TV sitting on top of it. Cause one had the picture sound. Oh, you had the analog with the.

[Joe Johnson]

With the.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

With the. With the. The raven ears on it. Or you had to pole. You had to twist outside. Yeah, they don't know nothing about that. All they've known is a TV to get 500 channels. I grew up, the TV had three channels. On, off, and don't f. With me.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, they'll never know. They'll never know and understand how heavy that damn flow Model T was, boy. That's why I sat down there. And when it went out, you just put something on top of it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Whole book. You put it. You put a towel on it. You put pictures. Hey, you go there, you see grandpa, granny and papa picture together. You see all the grandkid pictures stacked on top. Oh, you were throwing it away.

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, TV heavy as hell.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They don't know what it's like to go to the well and drop the bucket down to get water.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, I don't know nothing about that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They don't know what it's like to pour that water in there and prime that pump like you see in 1860s. They don't know nothing about that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

What year? Huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

1860. They don't. They don't know anything about that. I took my kids. I took my kids to the house. They're like, daddy, you live here? No, I lived in the house. But your uncle and your great grandma lived. Yeah, I lived here, Daddy, this little house.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What you thought it was gonna be? They talk about, daddy, where the bathroom. I said, here, let me show you where the bathroom is. I took about around the house to the back. I pointed out there. Daddy, you went in the woods? I mean, I. I mean, somebody would have saw me if I'd have went in the yard, because they were cars passing by. So, yeah, that's the way I went. They're like, daddy, you grew up like that. We read about stuff like that in the. In the.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

In the.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

In the history books. Well, your daddy was part of history.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, man, them tough times. Be a character, bro. It was a lot of character, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I just know I didn't want to live like that. I mean, hey, you gotta realize my grandma's 66. I said, man, I don't want to be in my 60s and 70s. Come on, man. Nah, hell no. And it's hard to try to instill that in your kids. Why you give them every damn thing, right? I teach you a lesson, Nocho. How I teach you a lesson? You go to a school that costs $20,000 a year.

[Joe Johnson]

Please, can y' all help me?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You get 3, 400amonth in your account. And you don't do no chore. Just keep your car, just keep your room clean.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, guys, stay on.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And I be. Damn it. That don't look like a jungle gym.

[Joe Johnson]

Facts, the same thing. I'll be preaching. Damn, man, just keep your room clean.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Simple stuff that you can control.

[Joe Johnson]

Like, well, you know what I mean?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, like, damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't just take the trash out when I ask you to. You know what I mean? If you see his overflow, don't throw all. Nothing on. All on top of the damn tray.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Take it out. Yes, the lady. My daughter Rue was so juggy. What time the people came. My daughter called the people. That lady snitch, Daddy, you need to find her. She's snitching. I'm like, I ain't gonna find that lady. Your room. I'm like, come on. How you wash your clothes? The clothes clean. And you throw them on the floor. Who live like that? How you sleep? And you got how people sleep with clothes on the bed? Chat. Is it me?

[Joe Johnson]

I know exactly what you mean. Yeah. I'm like, damn.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I was like, you just took the clothes out of the dryer. Why you throw them on the bed? Why you throw them on the floor? Why you just won't fold them up? And why I got the.

[Joe Johnson]

And why I got a T. That's what I'm saying. Not for real, though, cuz. See, that trash thing happened the other day. I opened up the damn trash. When I throw something in there, I'm talking about it's stuff falling out. I'm like, damn.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, I hate.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I hate that, Joe.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Hey, we. We all. We all living it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

We all.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

We all going through the same problem. Because I got to repeat.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I ain't going through them, but they going down. I don't care what they look like. It look like a damn pig pen.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Hey, hold on now. I. I thought you gonna have to go through it again anyway.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, no.

[Joe Johnson]

What you mean, ojo?

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

I thought. I thought we was all having kids. We were having more kids.

[Joe Johnson]

We had one more.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm good.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, I thought we all. I thought we all agreed.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I can't do it.

[Commercial Announcer]

O.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Like, we gon. We gonna sink up. We gonna sink and do it at the same time. You know how women always get on. On. They sink.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They sink.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, we all sink and have kids at the same time. And so we could take them to the park.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The only sink I got is in the kitchen. No, that's. I'm done.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm done.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm. I'm. I'm 58.

[Joe Johnson]

We still having fun?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Let's just say I'll be. I'll be down there 59. So that means I'll be 76. Hey, God willing, 76. a. a. At a. At a high school. At a high school graduation for a son or a daughter. Grandkid.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Think about this.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Not a great grand.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Think about this. Hey, we gonna be at a high school graduation for a son or a daughter. As one group. Hey, how we gonna be like a unit? We're gonna be like New Edition.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

How about this right here? I'm practicing. I said, oh, hey, I'm practicing. Coach, don't put me in the game because I ain't trying to score. I'm gonna practice, but I ain't trying to score. Don't put me.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Nah, man. Nah, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hell no, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Hey, what. Hey, listen, one more. Wait. One more for me just ain't gonna hurt, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It hurt me. I can hear my grandfather. I can hear my grandfather voice in my head now. He say, son, the worst kind of poor to be is child poor. I'm good. I've been live. Hey, I don't know how long I got before the man called me home, but I'm gonna live.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I got you my private school. My private school. Paying for private school. That is over. Hey, me paying $1,500, $2,000 a month for daycare. That's over.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, boy, you've been scarred a. Man, I know what you. Hey. I know what you mean, boy.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

All right.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I done did it, man.

[Joe Johnson]

I did that. Think about it. Ojo got a whole damn football team over there, and he talking about. Man, I'm having hell.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He talking about some more.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Hey, n. N. Two. Two more. I want twins. I don't know about y'.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

I want twins. I want twins.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm having hell with the three I got. You hear me?

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Hey, Joe, I'm. I bring. Send them to me. I got it. Send them over. Send them over here. Go to me.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Look here.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Three more won't hurt. They have a ball over here, boy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, you mess around, man. Hey. Be buying two sets of diapers, adult diapers and baby diapers. How'd they go? How'd I look? I go to target and I get. Hey, I got the pins.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Hey, that's a good one. That's a good one.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's a good one.

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm good, man.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm good.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, I barely take care of myself getting up and down these steps, trying to chase, man. But hey, I got the pool. I got to put the COVID on the pool because he done slipped out. They don't slip down and got the. Nah, hell no. They trying to pick the dogs up and the dogs running around.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Look, we got to do some work on him, Ojo.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

We.

[Joe Johnson]

We'll get him. We'll get him to come around.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, we're gonna get him, right?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, I just want to practice. Can I practice?

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

No.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Brady say some guys just want to be on the practice squad. They don't want to get called up.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

No.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Because they don't want that pressure.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Yeah. Has it ever been you? Has that ever been you at any health life?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No. Hell no.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Okay, well, why start now?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Because I'm 58 now. Oh, Joe, I ain't gonna lie. If you'd have called me in my 40s like you guys are, I'd probably. I could have gave you two.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Could have gave you two. I gave you two. No, no, I think. Hey, hey, guys. I think in 50 area might not be. Hey, this might not be above some air the time. That's a. That's all I got for you. I ain't got nothing but no star filter. Ain't no real bullets.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh.

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[Commercial Announcer]

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Yeah, no, I don't need to.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I I don't understand.

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm trusting T Mobile.

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

we've got T satellite for backup.

[Joe Johnson]

Whoa.

[Commercial Announcer]

I don't trust my carrier that much.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

We'll just use your phone as a flashlight.

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[Pharmaceutical Advertiser]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

I hate to say it, but I

[Commercial Announcer]

don't trust much of anything.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It's the rage bait.

[Pharmaceutical Advertiser]

It feels like it's trying to divide people.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little bit.

[Commercial Announcer]

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[Tab Ramos]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

The NBA will be testing a one free throw rule to improve game flow during summer league. Yes had a rule since 20192020 season. Under the rule any foul will would normally lead to one, two or three free throws instead of results in a single free throw attempt. That attempt will be worth the same total number of points as a free throw it replaces. Wow. The only exception is during the final two minutes of the fourth quarter OT standard free throw rules apply. Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I like it. It's pickup style. Oo when you play, when you play pickup in the summer, this how we play to speed the game up. You know what I mean? Okay now OO got, he got foul shooting a three pointer and what you gonna get one shot to make three. You feel what I'm saying? You make that one shot, it's gonna count as three. We get back instead of sitting there letting him shoot three damn free throws, he shoot one to make to get three points. I like it. I like how the NBA is trying to mix things up. Especially in summer league where you can kind of, you know, experiment certain different things and it's gonna be a lot on display. Man, we got the next generation coming in. I, I don't mind this, Uncle Ocho. It's going to keep the. The pace of the game fast.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Boy. You will have some guys. You'll have some guys that some poor free throw shoot. Hey, you have some guys on a three point shot Joe, who hit one and make three. It probably would have missed the next two, but it don't matter. Just work on. Just work on your free throw.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, you. Hey, hey. Because you already know that one free throw go. It's going to come in, it's going to be valuable. So you want to lock in.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. All right. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

man, your boy took two row sparks.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Last night I had my do rag on backwards, so the long part covered my face. Man, I put my baby to sleep. But all that snoring, your boy didn't stop. Didn't stop your boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, man say he took two, had a durag on backwards.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That man said he is stuck. He just know he putting in work. Damn

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

bag.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, no, I can't. Hey, man. Hey, that thing probably give me a heart attack. I can't take one. One plenty for me. Hope y' all are getting your. Your glizzies. Ready to cheer the true goat, Joey chestnut. This Saturday. USA. USA. Man, I don't know how somebody eats 70 hot dogs in 12 minutes.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, 70 hot dog. God, Lee, listen.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Hey, my minimum. My minimum is. Is. Is four.

[Joe Johnson]

You ain't four glizzes.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

I just had four at. At the Portugal. At the Portugal game. That, that I just went to. Yeah. Ate them hot dogs at the Hard Rock. Be good. And listen, you know the game tomorrow, Joe Argentina played K. I'm a half four again. Yeah. No, no, I don't need no condiments. I ain't paying nothing extra.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

I can't.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I can't do it. I'm a hamburger.

[Joe Johnson]

The glizzy man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, and I had. I ain't had a hot dog in probably.

[Joe Johnson]

It's been a while for me. I don't know if it's been that long, but it's been a while.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Ultra eat them things down it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Yeah. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Who won free agency so far? I say the Raptors.

[Joe Johnson]

You say the Raptors.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I mean, I like Kawhi if he stay healthy.

[Joe Johnson]

I do too. I like Kawhi if he stay.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But I. I just. I. I just. I just. You see, it was reported that Giannis was willing to sign the contract with the Celtics.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But the Celtics was only willing to Go.

[Joe Johnson]

Two years he wore the cream,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

so.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I don't know, man. Right now with Philly getting jb, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's the biggest. That's the biggest one this summer.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Yeah. Easily.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Ronaldo is the all time leading score. 976 goals. A thousand soon. He's not in his prime. Back in the day, he was playing different position. Also unk start reading stuff on X espn. They have an agenda against Ronaldo. No, the problem is he's got no. Yes, he's got no. It's okay. He can't do what he once did. That's why he's not in the position that he's in. That's all we saying. We're not denying his greatness.

[Joe Johnson]

We're not.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But it happens to us all.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Yeah. He's still great though.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Actually, he's the greatest.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Messy. What up, big three. Y' all wish my bro the best on his cancer journey. Now he has rung the bell. Thanks for your prayers and love. Thank you. Congratulations with us, man. All the best. Hey, God.

[Joe Johnson]

Good.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The same standard you want to hold Ronaldo to at age 41. You get upset when people hold LeBron to that standard at age 41. I don't. I've said LeBron can't do what he once could. He's 41. But they still have the same championship aspirations placed on him as if he was 21 or he was 31. He can't do. He can. LeBron can have a great game. And Joe, you know this. And Ocho, as we got older, we just couldn't sustain that greatness that had made us great. To put those game together back to back to back to back to back. We can't.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't have.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No. That's all I'm saying. That's why LeBron, even though his mind is still sharp, he still has his body in phenomenal shape.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Yes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Still, that workload that he once could handle, that 40 plus minutes he could handle. He played 40 plus minutes. He gonna need the next night off. But remember what I said. When you're great, they only compare you to your younger self.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They're not playing. They're not comparing Ronaldo to Holland. They're not comparing them to Mbappe. They're comparing him to a 25, 30 year old Ronaldo.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's when you know you're great. They don't compare. They don't compare greats to other greats. They compare them to them younger version of Themselves. They compare other players when they're not as great. Who does he remind you of?

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He never saw Tom Brady. You ain't never heard somebody say Tom Brady remind you of nobody. You ain't. They heard no Jerry Wright say to remind you who Jerry Rice remind you of? Who? LT remind you of? Who Reggie White remind you of? Who Dion remind you of? LeBron? Who do you remind you of? Who do Michael remind you of? Magic Larry? Tim Duncan, Shaq. Who?

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They compare you to your younger self. Ocho said it. He's older now. He just can't do it like he once could. He's still good. The question is, can he summons it up four more times? The 16, the 8, the semis and the finals.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Finals.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Can he summons it up four more times, Ocho?

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, we gonna find out. We gonna find out.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What's up? Nightcap. Based on what Philly gave up to get jb, I feel like Boston got fleece. Also, I'm wondering why didn't the warriors attempt to get the trade away from Butler and those picks? What are your thoughts? I don't think they're gonna trade. They're not gonna trade. I'm not trading. No Jimmy Butler.

[Joe Johnson]

No, you're not trading for him.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Give you Jalen Brown for Jimmy Butler

[Joe Johnson]

and you know he's not gonna be able to come.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Especially coming off of acl.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Knowing that he's not gonna be able to play. Hell no.

[Pharmaceutical Advertiser]

Man.

[Joe Johnson]

You gang, all this pressure gonna be on Tatum. You think we gonna trade for a guy who can't play with him? No. Hell no.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I mean, look at that point in time, Boston say we just got to get up off him. We don't want this $300 million. We don't want to pay him. And we don't want to give him a two year extension for 143. And all he's going to do, we can do. We can, we can move on now, Joe, or we can deal with the problem.

[Joe Johnson]

It's still going to be a problem.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And not saying him, but the man's going to want an extension. He go, he has another All Pro. Excuse me, an all NBA season. He goes to the All Star game.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He's going to want an extension. You don't want to give him that extension.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

So let's just go ahead and move on before it becomes an issue. I. I was loose with problem. He's not a problem, but his contract could have become an issue.

[Joe Johnson]

Facts.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You're right. I don't know why Ocho can't accept the truth about. Sorry, Ronaldo. The soccer knowledge you got evil you can see is clearly excuses Ocho tries to make. That's. Oh, your man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Listen, listen, listen, listen. I'm not sure who that is. Relax.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And you down there. You down there with Messy. You did Messy. Your homeboy.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, I know that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

My home.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

That's my dog. Listen, we've. I've had this conversation with Messi, even though he can't talk English good. Hey, he late. He laughs it off. And I'm. I'm gonna see him tomorrow. He laughs at all. It's all good. It's all good. It's not. I love. I love both of them, man, but I just.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They are. It's. And they kind of overlap. It's rare that we get. It's kind of like we got Djokovic, Nadal and Federer. We got those guys pretty much in the same era.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

One guy got 24. Got 24 majors. Excuse me, 24 slams. Another guy got 22 slams. The other guy got 20 slams. Let that sink in. Yeah. Imagine if those guys. If Djokovic and Nadal wasn't in the Federal era, how many titles would he have? If Federal wasn't in the Dog Djokovic era, how many titles would he have?

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It's about the big. They try to. They put. Try to put Andy Merge. About the big. No, It's a big three. Andy won three slams. One got 21, got 22. Dog got 24. No, 60 damn slams with six plus SAMs between the three. It's crazy. Jesus. Crazy to have to have. But the problem is a lot of times a lot of people will get. Will go unnoticed because they play. Andy Murray was a damn good player, don't get me wrong. So was Andy Roddick. So was Del Potro, so was Chillick. There were some great players in that era, bro. You just happened to be in that era. It was some really good quarterbacks in the 2000s. Oh, yeah, but you had to. But you had Brady. You had Brady and Manning. Some people don't get noticed. Drew. Drew Brees had like 5,5000 yard pass the season. Big Ben had three 500 yard passes. Game. Aaron Rodgers won fourth. Come on, man. What we doing here? You got A guy got five MVPs. One guy got seven Super Bowls. One guy got like, what, 600 touchdowns. Another guy got 540. Arrows matter. It was some great, really great players.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

In the Jordan era,

[Pharmaceutical Advertiser]

unfortunately.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Ain't nothing like him, though.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

JB doesn't think inside or outside the box. The box doesn't exist. Who told us there was a box in the first place? Respect.

[Joe Johnson]

That's jb.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Conventional. How about, how about conventional? He's a thinker. He doesn't go with conventional wisdom. He'll see something and says, well, why, why does it have to be that? Why can't it be this? And when you used to. The status, the status quo, bro, just play basketball. That's what they're saying. I'm not saying that. I got no problem with it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Got that big ass brain. Use it. You're absolutely right. But alternative media is growing like nightcap. People want the truth. They want to know what's really happening.

[Joe Johnson]

They want to hear from the players.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they do, but I just, but here it's a double A sword. Because when he don't play well, what are they gonna say? Joe, he needed you. What? Get off it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Just play. Yeah. And get off. Yeah. It's a slippery slope. But the player that do it, they understand what it comes with and they, they, they don't, they don't, they don't care.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Most of you know, most of the time guys, you know, like, like you said, oo, they do it on the off day.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Yes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Or they limited with it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

So me, I, I'm not, I, I, it's, it's hard to say, but I don't think I could have did it playing.

[Joe Johnson]

Could you be too locked in? That's what I'm saying. I know I would be too locked in. Then, hey, look, and then if we just so happen to go on the losing streak, I'm gonna be so pissed off. Ain't no way I'm.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Now you ain't gonna want to do it. And then everybody gonna say, yeah, you talking, you need to stop losing.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And then now you're gonna be mad.

[Joe Johnson]

Now you're gonna snap.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Please don't listen to Ocho. LeBron James is coming to Philly. I'm, I'm manifesting it right now. If we lose out on Gold, Golden State, Goldman State, hell, Cleveland, I'll understand, but anyone else?

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

No, listen, I, I understand you're manifesting thing, but that's really not the way it works. If you understand the way the team is constructed and what they have already, two dominant ball handlers. LeBron is not going there to be third fiddle again, in which he was just at LA where he wasn't happy. He'll be in Miami. If, if you, if you've watched the show long enough, you Know, anytime it comes to basketball knowledge and telling you where people are going to go, I'm giving you the hints. And y'. All.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Ocho, Ocho, I'm with you on this because, yeah, other ball handling duties that he would have in Miami versus in Philly. In Philly, you're gonna have obviously Jalen Brown, Maxi Eshcombe. Hell, you know, Embiid gonna be a ball stopper in Miami, man, you gonna be kicking that thing ahead to Greek freak throwing lives to Bam. Hitting, hitting your boy Klay Thompson over there in the corner for three. Huh? That what you talking about?

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

What else, what else do I need to say? Huh?

[Tab Ramos]

Huh?

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Hold on, let me, let me, let me put it on. Let me put it on.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man, come on, Come on, bro.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

What else do I need to say?

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, man. Come on, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I need a public apology when LA thrives without LeBron. Also, let's not forget the loaded roster he had in the bubble. He didn't win in LA by himself. So comparing pre LeBron Lakers isn't fair. Kobe won by himself, so who won by themselves?

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Nobody.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Now you say LeBron, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So we're going to take an eight year stretch. We're going to take Giannis's last eight years in Milwaukee. We'll take Nicola Jokic's eight last eight years in Denver. All of them won one championship. LeBron's a failure. So then so is Jokic. And so is Giannis. Finals MVP. All three, one Finals MVP. If LeBron's a failure, failure. So is Jokic, so is Giannis now. But think about what we're doing here. We're taking LeBron year 16 to year 8, 24. You taking those guys in their prime.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Think about what you're doing. So now I need you to take a guy, I need you to take now what year this Giannis came in and what? So this would be Yanis's, what, 14 season. So I need you to take the next eight years for Giannis. Eight years. So I'm assuming, let's just say place 22. I'm gonna need you to take the next eight Years of Jokic and then we'll. We'll compare. Nobody has won by themselves. That's what y'. All. Oh, LeBron didn't win by himself. Who won the championship by themselves? Larry Bird had other hall of Famers. Who's in the hall of fame? Kevin McHale's in the hall of Fame. Robert Paris is in the hall of Fame. Dennis Tiny Archibald is in the hall of Fame. Bill Walton is in the hall of Fame. I don't know if Dennis Johnson. I think DJ is in the hall of Fame. I think so. Magic had Kareem Worthy, Bob McAdoo, Jamal Wilkes. So he didn't win by himself. Shaq had Kobe, Jordan had Pippin. I mean, all these guys had top 50 players. So only LeBron was expected to win by himself. I'm just trying to figure it out. What did LeBron ever do? I. I've never. It's because the problem that I have is that if you think about it, Joe, if you really think about Ocho on the surface level, yeah, Jordan and Kobe fans hate LeBron. LeBron fans don't hate Jordan.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They appreciate the greatness. Just because I say LeBron is great, that doesn't mean Kobe and Jordan isn't right. But how many times Jordan, Kobe, I mean, LeBron will score 50. What did they say, Joe? Jordan would have scored 70, Kobe would have had 80. That's it. You can appreciate all three of them. You can have your favorite without trying to dump down on the other. People like Bird, but nobody tried to put down Magic and Jordan. People like Magic, nobody tried to put down Jordan and bird. People like Dr. J, they didn't try to put down Kareem. Even if you like Shay. Don't nobody try to put down Luca. Don't nobody try to put down Ant, man. Don't nobody try to put down Yokich. But look, I hope the Lakers do good. I'm not gonna lose sleep anyway. Either way. I'm a Luca fan. I'm a Luca fan. I wish you well. Austin Reeves, he's my example that I use of a guy that got better and better and better when you put the work in. So obviously I want to see him continue to succeed. Yeah, but y' all know I'm a LeBron fan. I've been a LeBron fan, But I don't get it. Hey, I'll be glad. So then I ain't got nobody. I don't have to make no more arguments for LeBron once he retired. I ain't got to make no more arguments for him. Ocho ISO, you need to win the game for your Life. Against the 2000 Ravens. You have to put the 92 Cowboys offensive line pick your team. Brady, ed, Megatron, Chase, JSN, Kelsey, Peyton, L.T. puka, J.J. agran. Well, damn, you put an all star team. Osho, this man said he want the 92 Cowboys offensive line, and then you get to pick Brady, ed, Megatron, Chase, JSN or Kelsey. And then you still get the 92 Cowboys offensive line. You get Peyton, LT, Tio, Puka, JJ and Grog.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Well, who the defense?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He can say the 92 Ravens. The 92 Ravens had two had two hall of Famers.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

I think he said the 2000 Ravens.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's what I'm saying. The 2000 Ravens defense.

[Tab Ramos]

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[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Okay, okay, okay. Against, against.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He want the 92 Cowboys offensive line and then you go pick Brady, hall of Fame, Ed, hall of Fame, Megatron hall of Fame. Kelsey's going to the hall of Fame and you get Peyton, hall of Fame, lt, hall of Fame, Puka hall of Fame. I bet hall of Fame GR is going to be in the hall of Fame.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

And I don't know, them boys still might get beat up.

[Joe Johnson]

Bro.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I just say, bro. You got to just say, well, he's

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

He's driving down the pitch.

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

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[Chad Ocho Cinco]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

It's the rage bait.

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It feels like it's trying to divide people.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

Pick an offense. You got to pick an offense. You can't put an all star team together, right? That'd be like, man, if I take, if I take Shaq, Kobe, Tim Duncan, LeBron and KD, do I think they could beat the night? Do I think they could beat the 92 Bulls? Yeah, you just put an all star team together. If you take say a historically great team, say you think the 86 Bulls could be in their prime, could beat the 92 Bulls in their prime, right? Or you take the 85 Lakers or you take the 8 17, 18 Golden State Warriors. You got to do it like that. You can't put an all star team together against a team that they don't have all. I mean, yeah, Jordan and Pippen were great, but I'm just saying, you just put Shaq and Kobe and, and staff and KD and Braun. Yeah, I believe they beat the 92 Bulls. I do. Yes, absolutely. What's annoying about the JB story is he's proven essay right while thinking otherwise. Ocho, you say it's about players controlling the narrative, yet reports have often been accurate.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

What reports have been accurate? I mean, we are.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't know.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

The whole point is not about controlling the narrative. It's whatever the narrative is. Us still having a voice and opinion on what's being said about us, whether right or wrong. You don't have to agree with it. The fact that they can't control what he does is the problem. His podcast is the problem. Him having a say is the problem. They don't like that we can't control him. You know what? We want to get off this. It doesn't feel safe. It makes us uncomfortable. That's it. That's all it comes down to.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Ocho, your teammate TJ Hushermanzada recently said on the reason for the Bears roam, a doomsday ball drops probably last season Is because. Because he presses, but he doesn't expect it to continue. Do you agree? Can you elaborate?

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

I mean, when.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

When.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

When a player is pressing. I mean, I'm curious. I'm curious. In that situation, when you're dropping the ball.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I want it so bad. I want to make these plays so bad.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, that could be that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That doesn't come. I'm pressing Ocho. And guess what? I want to turn everything into a touchdown. I want to turn everything into a big play. And guess what I do when I try to turn everything I try to get my head around?

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Take your eyes off the ball. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, pressing could be one of the reasons. Obviously. Lazy Eyes could be the other one. You know, if. If it's not pressing. But I like him using the pressing reference. But just Lazy Eyes, you know, get back to the basics. You know, your basic fundamentals. When you. When you first learn to catch a ball, look it all the way in.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yep.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

All it is, is. Is once. Once you in game format and game speed, you just speed. You just speeding up the basic fundamentals.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yep. That's all I look. I think you're gonna be phenomenal. I think, you know, they got, I think, DJ More now. He moved to the number one spot. Yeah, I like the other receipt. What's the guy. What's the other receiver they got on the other side outside.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Roma Dunes and Luther Burton. Burton could play the burden. Hey, he nice boy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Luther Burton, hell boy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He can play.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Matter of fact, Luther Burton and Roma Dunze is another. Is another situation similar like what Boston had. In a sense, maybe not to that level. I'm just saying two young receivers that are really good.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yes. That are really good.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But you know what normally happens. Oo.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Oh, yeah, I know, I know, I know. You ain't got.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They not going to pay 2 receiving. No. $40 million.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

No.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Because you had DK and you had JSN. It's not like DK 35, right?

[Joe Johnson]

Like, nah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

We go, hey, we ain't finna give you 33. Cause we about to have to get this young boy 42. I'm just saying. Ocho, you know how it worked?

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Dallas gonna have to make a decision next year after we win it, they're gonna have to make a decision. Cause that 42 go probably be about 45. And guess what CD gonna say? Hey, I've been on this contract three years. What y' all gonna do? Dax today, y' all see my homeboy make it right. Y' all see, hey, Y' all see what L. Jack got, right?

[Joe Johnson]

All you gotta do is put up. They put up.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, oh, and Quinny Williams, he said, man, y' all see what Jeffrey Simmons got?

[Joe Johnson]

They put on for the city? Hey, boy, it gonna go down.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Winning. Hey, when you win, everybody get paid.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

But it won't be on the same team.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

There you go. What you mean, there you go?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, listen, why y' all always talk about the worst? No, no. Yeah, yeah, you, too. You and Ocho, y' all talk about.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

I ain't say nothing bad.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, y' all talk about the worst things that can happen, but y' all never say damn. What if the Cowboys come out here

[ISO Joe Johnson]

and they end up winning it?

[Joe Johnson]

And then now you got to pay all these. All right, cool.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Well, if you got to pay all them people, you can't keep them, Joe. There's a salary cap now.

[Joe Johnson]

Pickens gonna get his money. Ojo. When? After we win it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Joe's wanna pick. How do we win it?

[Joe Johnson]

The Super Bowl.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Okay. Hey, hey, Uncle Joe. Hey, Uncle Joe.

[Tab Ramos]

Huh?

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

What's. What's Bruce Lee's favorite drink? What? Hey, there you go, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's a good one,

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Joe. You finally got one, Joe. You guys a good one. That was a good one.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Been rocking with y' all since day one. Glad you stayed loyal. Oo, but you still owe me. Freak one, freak two, freak three. Makes this show strong.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm three now, Chad. I already know who. Three, man. Stop acting like that. Why are you fighting? Try to. Try to fight me for my spot.

[Tab Ramos]

Damn.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's me.

[Joe Johnson]

You're ahead of me. It's okay.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

First of all, y' all already know I'm the oldest, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Normally, the oldest is the freakiest one. Nah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. They were doing stuff like that.

[Joe Johnson]

I know some cats. I know some cats your age, boy. Hey, they get down like 21, 22 year old, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Hey, hey, y' all can fight for one and two because I'm. I'm definitely pulling up the room.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, I. I ain't even ranked. I'm unranked right now.

[Joe Johnson]

Hell no. What you mean

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm unranked right now? I ain't got no. But look at the promise.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Sound good?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But I already know.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, man. Come on and chat. Really tired of y' all trying to throw me in there at the top two when y' all know I'm three.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Nah, they know you. They know that.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, one thing about me, I'mma play my role to the tee. I'mma play the third I'm cool with that. Don't, don't. I don't need y' all fighting me for the damn spot, though. Damn.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

You notice I don't really say much because I know I'm in the back.

[Joe Johnson]

That's because you know, you fighting for first. Hell, that's why you don't say much.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Nah, because I already know. Listen, the chat knows. They know better, man. Huh? I'm shy. Hey, I'm the quiet boy. I'm innocent.

[Joe Johnson]

45.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Savage. So what was your reaction when the malice in the palace occurred? How would you have reacted in that situation?

[Joe Johnson]

Honestly, man, I really don't know. Because when you look at certain situations, Ron Artist was laying on the. He was laying on, like, the scores thing, and he got hit with it. So you're saying if I'm that person, you don't know how you're gonna react in certain situations Already, emotions is high. They had to separate him and Ben Wallace already, you know? Yes. And I think that's what kind of led to all that. He already would probably out of his mind, and he's like, you know what? I'm gonna try to be cool. I' ma chill. Then a fan hit him with a drink.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Next thing you know, it's melee. So you never know.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I don't know, bro. I'm real talk. I don't know,

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Mike. If man hit Joe with a drink, see, get him

[ISO Joe Johnson]

table. They should have just let him go in the locker room. And I don't know where this. The fans think they can. They can be a professional athlete.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, you know, Detroit a little different. They're a little different in Detroit. Real talk.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What's up, Nightcap? Y' all doing great things in the media world. Don't stop. Question. Can you walk us through? You're live. Hold on. Rich, you supposed to call. You supposed to call the show. Oh, all right. Well, you could. When you. When you. When you. Can you come on? Yeah, What you doing tomorrow? Okay, what you doing Saturday? Oh, okay. What you doing? Can you come on Sunday?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, tell him I need to holler at him.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, ISO say you need to holler at you too. Anyway, can you come on Sunday? No, we off tomorrow. And, Yeah, we about to be done. I'm saying, can you come on Sunday? Okay, well, I'm. You interrupt.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

You.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You. You interrupted my. My cash right now. All right, man. I'll call you when I get done.

[Joe Johnson]

What you call them? Got him tied up. Ropes and handcuffs over there, huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, he actually just got back. He Said he was shooting his.

[Joe Johnson]

His.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

His podcast tonight. So. So what's up, Nightcap? Can y'. All. Y' all doing great things. Can you walk us through your live reaction to France and US game in the 2024 Olympics? It was as good a game. Look, those last two games, that game against. That game against Serbia and Jokic and Bogdanovic and those guys and that France, because it was in France and they had. They had put that team together, and it seemed like the US get this lead and France come right back, and then our big guns, kd, Bron, and Steph. But that last two minutes was all Steph Curry. All Steph Curry.

[Joe Johnson]

The shooting performance that he put on them last couple minutes, Akin Ocho, I'm talking about that probably gonna go down. That might be one of the greatest moments in Olympic history.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It absolutely is.

[Joe Johnson]

Look, considering the fact that man shot that last three over. Over. Over Wimy, and I think he had Brun and KD to the left of him.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they still sh. They showed it. They. They passed the ball and they talking about, man, I can't believe you froze us out. But that thing is. You think about it. Over Wimby, over Platoon, bro, he shot that so high and from so deep.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I mean, it's just like after. I mean, shot after shot after shot. He was amazing. But those last two games, you could consider those. They might be the greatest two games. Look, even when. What was that? In 2008, when they. Spain was an unbelievable game.

[Joe Johnson]

It was. It was.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But. But Serbia, because remember, they was down by 15 in Serbia, and Serbia started talking about Donovan said, y' all going home.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, boy. Locked in. We going. Yeah,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

man. Hey, Braun, KD and Steph were locked in. Hey. And then that. Hey. And then that final game, that. That last two minutes was as great a shooting performance his Steph has ever had, and he's had some great within the NBA, but under the circumstances, remember now, this ain't for your team. This is for your country.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

Different.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

This is our best of the best that we sent. We specifically said, kd, Steph and Braun, you don't have to audition.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And boy showed out. Showed out.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That was. Man, I was so bad. I was so happy. Hey, Steph, hit that one and say, don't worry about me. Don't worry about me. And then he hit another one, talking about. Yeah, it's okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, okay.

[Chad Ocho Cinco]

I got it.

[Joe Johnson]

Night night.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay. Night. Night.

[Joe Johnson]

Night. Night.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

We talk about all the greats, but what about the. No, not so greats. I so I believe you came up around the same time. You can talk about facing players like James Posen. How hard, how bad did you cook him, man?

[Joe Johnson]

James Posley, that's a player partner of mine, Uncle Ocho. Good dude, but he played on that. What was that? 08 team? Boston Celtics when they won.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Celtics when they had the number one

[Joe Johnson]

defense in the league, bro. And I was playing here for the Hawks and we played them in that first round. He was a piss man, a real three and D guy. You know, you couldn't leave him open because he'll bang you upside your head, boom.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And.

[Joe Johnson]

And he gonna pick you up 94ft, you know what I mean? He gonna. He gonna be a pest. He gonna be in you. He gonna be in your jersey number boy the whole game. So guys, I really enjoy playing against and competing against, bro. Good dude. Good dude.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. We're gonna try to have Rich on. He was supposed to come on tonight, but he shot his podcast the same time that we shot ours, so he was unable to come on. So we're going to try to line something up for Sunday to get him on to talk about all things NBA. Obviously he'll have some insight on LeBron, kind of what LeBron is thinking, what was, what led to him not signing back to the Lakers. So we're going to try to set that up to have him come on Sunday night. Hopefully we get the schedules all work out. I want to thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap as you watch Portugal take down Croatia in stoppage time 2 1. Croatia thought they had tied it up in stoppage with a late goal, but it was offsides. And so Portugal hangs on the win by the score of 2:1. Spain dominates Austria 3:0. The game was really never close. If you look at the stats, you'll see why the game was so lopsided as Spain moves on and they face Portugal in the round of 16. Thank you guys for joining us. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite up my partner and co host, Liberty City's own the Bingo Ring of Fame honoree. A former pro Bowler and an all pro. That is Chad Ocho. Cinco Johnson and the third member of the big three is a seven time NBA all star from the University of Arkansas. He's a clutch performance, a big shot taker and a big shot maker. That is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from we'd like to thank each and every one of you that have tuned in so many times for your eyes is in your word of mouth because thanks to you, Nightcap has become the success that it's become. All these awards, all the adulation and praise that we received, that's all because of you. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier head over to laportierconac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in the state or city near you. Remember, it is a premium BSOP Cognac that drinks like an exo without the price. It is the best tasting, smoothest VSOP cognac on the market and it comes in two sizes. The 750 is the OG, the 375 now is the Junior. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Ronaldo gets a goal they score latent stoppage as they defeat Croatia 2 1. Croatia thought they had tied it up later in stoppage, but the guy was offsides and the goal was nullified as they move on. Portugal now face Spain who dominated Austria by the score of three. Nothing. Thank you guys for joining us. I'm Unk, he's Ocho, he's ISO. We're off tomorrow. We'll see you Saturday. Thanks for joining us guys. Sam. Foreign.

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

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