Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Shedeur Closing In On Browns Starting Job? Knicks Parade CHAOS!

Summary

Nightcap Podcast – Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Shedeur Closing In On Browns Starting Job? Knicks Parade CHAOS!

Date: June 19, 2026
Hosts: James "Deebo" Harrison & Joe Haden
Produced by: Shay Shay Media & Playmaker

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Episode Overview

This episode of Nightcap dives into the latest drama in sports, from the NBA’s parade mayhem to Cleveland Browns quarterback intrigue and the “vibes” out of Cincinnati. NFL legends Deebo Harrison and Joe Haden bring their unfiltered, lighthearted, and occasionally clowning commentary to the night’s big stories.

Main Topics Covered:

• Hilarious take on the New York Knicks’ parade and a viral moment involving an unrecognized player.
• Deep dive into the Cleveland Browns’ quarterback battle: Shedeur Sanders vs. Deshaun Watson.
• Joe Burrow’s big claims about Bengals’ “LSU championship vibes” and a skeptical, spirited Pittsburgh-centric response.

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1. Opener & Hosts Check-In

[05:30 - 07:08]

• Joe Haden is on vacation at a family reunion in Virginia Beach; banter about mysterious backgrounds and staying out of trouble.
• Deebo jokes about Joe lying about thrifting jerseys:

  “Hell no you don’t, Joe. You don’t even know where a thrift store at!” – Deebo [07:36]

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2. Knicks Parade Chaos

[08:25 - 13:12]

• Viral video discussed: Knicks player Tyler is denied access by police during the victory parade—cops don’t recognize him.
• Both hosts break down what went wrong, with Deebo relaying a similar story from his own Super Bowl parade days, staying low as a lesser-known player:

  “I ain’t get off the truck. Why I ain’t get off the truck? Because ain’t nobody know who the hell I was.” – Deebo [11:21]

• Lesson: Don't jump off the float unless you’re a face of the franchise.
• Deebo:

  “Tyler, man, you can't be jumping out there like everybody don't know.” [13:02]

• Joe:

  “When you start getting the chants, then you can just walk right off.” [13:27]

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3. Browns QB Battle: Shedeur Sanders vs. Deshaun Watson

[16:54 - 27:22]

QB Competition Update

• Jeremy Fowler report: Shedeur Sanders is closing the gap—Watson “lacked consistency during OTAs.”
• Joe Haden believes it's a “legitimate quarterback competition,” but expects Watson to get first crack because of his contract.

  “I want Shedeur to start. … But the only reason why I say Deshaun Watson is because I think the owner wants him to play right now.” – Joe [17:53]

• Joe is impressed by Shedeur’s work ethic and attitude:

  “He’s just working … not talking, he’s just working.” – Joe [18:30]

• Joe’s take: Whoever is more consistent through training camp and preseason should win; money may force the owner’s hand, but for the future, Shedeur should get his shot.

Coaching, Roster, and Future Implications

• Deebo pushes that owner’s faith in Watson is long gone; thinks they’re just hoping for trade value:

  “Owner had gave up on him a long time ago and said that was the biggest waste of money he ever did.” – Deebo [22:02]

• Deebo and Joe unite: Give Shedeur the keys unless Watson looks miraculous—test him with this improved roster and know what you have, instead of recycling doubts.
• Joe:

  “For Shedeur Sanders is the quarterback right now for the Cleveland Browns…Let’s give him a fair shot.” [25:41]

Supplemental Draft Sidenote

• Deebo is baffled by talk the Browns may consider another QB from the supplemental draft:

  “That's crazy as hell, dude.” [23:39]

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4. Joe Burrow’s Bengals – LSU “Vibe” and AFC North Banter

[27:22 - 41:17]

Burrow’s Bold Comparison

• Joe Burrow says Bengals have the “vibes” of his 2019 LSU national championship squad.

  “You go back and watch what I said before in 2019 season at LSU. I feel very similar about this team. I’m so excited.” – Joe Burrow (as quoted by Deebo) [27:50]

• Deebo and Joe both agree, “vibe” isn’t skill—LSU had crazy talent (Ja’Marr Chase, Justin Jefferson, Stingley, Delpit). This Bengals defense is improved, but show it on the field.
• Joe Haden is intrigued by Burrow becoming more vocal – “mean in a mean way.” He sees it as accountability, not attitude:

  “How many times we gonna keep telling you this your block… Not just being like, oh no, that’s okay… It’s more, there’s no more next times.” – Joe [34:32]

Steel-Curtain Trash Talk

• Deebo turns it fiercely pro-Steelers, mockingly warning Burrow not to get ahead of himself:

  “I tell you what… tell me what that vibe look like after week two when you go to Houston…week three when you come and see the Steelers… We gonna have to take away your joy and happiness.” – Deebo [36:21]

• Playful life advice:

  “You discipline out of love, Joe. You understand that? And sometimes pain has to be given in that discipline.” – Deebo [38:37]

• Joe echoes: Sometimes when someone demands more, the team can push back—will it be positive growth or “who you think you talking to?”
• Both predict tough AFC North sledding for Burrow:

  “We gonna see; they pop off early this season too. Like you say...we’ll know early.” – Joe [40:53]

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5. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Joe Haden, on Browns QB drama:

  “When you hear something good about Shedeur, you try to knock down Deshaun. I’m just trying to be more level-headed. Good things are gonna happen some days, bad things are gonna happen some days, but it’s the level of consistency.” [18:10]

• Deebo, on being “mean”:

  “Holding people accountable makes him mean to him, but like I said, that’s not Joe Burrow. I hate to have to do this. I really do…” [35:47]

• On Steelers optimism:

  “Let him sleep, man. Let him sleep. We’ll see what they talking about halfway through.” – Deebo [41:21]

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6. Timestamps for Key Segments

• 05:30 – Hosts catch up, vacation stories, and friendly hat/jersey banter
• 08:25 – Knicks parade chaos, unrecognized player fiasco
• 16:54 – Browns QB competition: Shedeur vs. Watson, what it means for the future
• 27:22 – Joe Burrow says Bengals “feel like LSU 2019,” debate on vibes and reality
• 36:21 – Deebo: “We gonna have to take away your joy and happiness” (Steelers boast)
• 40:53 – “We gonna see, they pop off early this season too… we’ll know early” (AFC North preview)

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7. Overall Tone & Takeaways

The tone is playful, candid, and sharp, combining real football analysis with classic locker room razzing. Deebo and Joe give listeners genuine behind-the-scenes player perspective—questioning hype, celebrating underdogs, and reminding everyone: in the NFL, nothing is guaranteed except a little chaos.

Who should tune in?
Fans of the Browns, Bengals, Steelers, or anyone who loves honest, hilarious sports talk with a player’s edge.

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[Joe Hayden]

Yes, sir.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Joe, how you doing today?

[Joe Hayden]

I'm doing great, brother Debo. I am doing amazing on a little vacation, a little family reunion time with my friends, with my family, with my cousins, with my brothers. It's going good, man, out in Virginia Beach. Real nostalgic. That's why I used to go with my family back in the day when I was a kid. Every year we would come to Virginia Beach. So, yeah, geeked.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

All right, that's good. That's good. Cause I'm looking. I'm like, it looked like maybe you was. I didn't know if you was locked up or not. You had the back screen. I don't know what was going on. I ain't, you know, I was just making sure, you know what I'm saying? Because it looked. It looked a little, you know, it was just plain, like, I ain't want to give away where I might be, where I could be

[Joe Hayden]

and undisclosed.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I'm just making sure because you gave us, you know, you told somewhere.

[Joe Hayden]

Somewhere in Virginia beach alone. It's a long. It's a big, long beach somewhere out here.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Okay. Okay. I mean, you good. It ain't like. Like I'm in Mexico, you know? Mexico again. Yeah, yeah. That's all.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I'm just saying. I'm just saying, Joe. Hey, hey. You kept your ass on. You kept your ass on the turf.

[Joe Hayden]

This I did.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

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[Joe Hayden]

Hey, bro. Shout out to you. Shout out to your snap. Shout out to your fitted game, your snapback game. I don't know what it is.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I told you, my head game is. Listen here, Joe, I've been trying to tell you, man, listen, I ain't trying to wear the same hat for. For a while, Joe, you know what I'm saying? That's what I'm doing. You know what I'm saying? My hat game is what it is because that's. That's, you know, that's where my. That's where. That's where my money at. I can afford to get, you know, different hats, you know what I'm saying? 20 doll here, $30 here. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? 15 here. Get it on sale, you know What I'm saying, that's that, that's where I'm at with it.

[Joe Hayden]

You know where I'm doing my jerseys. Me and you, we gonna go jersey, but look at the same thing. I can get cheap jerseys, twenty dollar jerseys, you know what I'm saying? Sometimes I thrift, sometimes I michelin.

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[Joe Hayden]

champion thrift in there. A little Celtics, maybe a little. Might be.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Hey, Chad.

[Joe Hayden]

Joe, sh. Yeah. Oh, I thrift sometimes.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Hell no you don't, Joe. You don't even know where a thrift store at. Is that Laker gear you wearing at the thrift store?

[Joe Hayden]

This was not thrift. This one right here was not thrift. Oh, now, I did not say everything's thrift. I say some things can be thrift, some can be.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

So you actually don't own thrift?

[Joe Hayden]

I do, I do, just not everything. Some things I bought from the regular store.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

What things?

[Joe Hayden]

Jerseys. Some like button up pieces. A pair of like, couple like jeans.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

What's the name of the store? What's the thrift store?

[Joe Hayden]

It's called Thrift.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

It's called Thrift. We're at, huh?

[Joe Hayden]

Around the place. Yeah, it's in.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Exactly.

[Joe Hayden]

Chill out, Debo. Why are you asking so many questions? Do you. Are you? I'll bring you to it. I'll bring you there. I'll bring you to it.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yeah, yeah, you bring me there. Man, look here, man. Nick's had a little parade, but the police did not recognize your boy Tyler. Like. We got the video. Check this out.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay, okay. Boom, ho, ho. What are you doing? Did you jump the gate? Coach is coming in. No, he's gone. He's fine. He's on the team. He's on the squad.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Ah, you know, Joe, did you. Did you know who he was? Cause I ain't gonna lie to you.

[Joe Hayden]

That's the part I did not. I did not. And I felt bad because I went and looked, because I'm not. I'm not the. I'm not the craziest Knicks. I'm not the craziest Knicks fan. The guys that are out there to start at 5, you know what I'm saying? Jordan Clarkson coming off the bench. I know a couple of the players, but you know how it is. He didn't play too much.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

And he didn't play at all during

[Joe Hayden]

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[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

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[Joe Hayden]

He didn't play at all during the Spurs. He didn't play at all during Spurs. So my thing is you don't Want to. I don't blame the cops too much because he's. You don't recognize him. If you don't recognize, he looks more normal. He's 6, 35.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

This is where he messed up. I'mma tell you. I'm tell you where he messed up.

[Joe Hayden]

You got to stay on the float. If they don't know, like, it's not. It's not that bad.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

You are not a face of that team. You ain't Bronson, you ain't Cat. You can't be jumping out there by yourself like, play it back. Look at the first. Look at the first two cops out here. First two cops, they got on them blue shirts.

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They see him, they're like, who is that? I don't know. But I ain't about to grab him because the fans kind of make it like they know him. They dapping him up. But you see when that white jersey, that. That white shirt came in, see you. He said, can't no shit go down like this on my watch. Cause he at least a lieutenant of that.

[Joe Hayden]

You know what it was, Deebo? I watched the video. I saw his coach, the one with the white hat, that was kind of jogging behind him a little bit and let the feds get in between. You got to stay right behind him, like, showing him I'm his escort. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's the player. He's like, hey, soon as that coach that came and saved him and was tapping him, like, no, no, no, he's good. He's good. Soon as you walking around there by yourself, if nobody. If they looking like. Hold on. Like, you don't look like cats. They don't look like Brunson. He jogging around here like he, like, normal. Normal dude walking around here look like

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

some little kid done jumped the fist,

[Joe Hayden]

got on the head and starting to act like he knows something.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

So you know what I'm saying, man? Ain't never. What, six, one, six, two? Something like that, man.

[Joe Hayden]

Six' two.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

They like me out there talking about, you know, they like me out there talking about, hey, man, I'm on the squad.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what I'm saying. So, you know, they protect him. They don't know who you are. So I think if his coach that

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

was behind him, the normal beat cop,

[Joe Hayden]

he's like, oh, yeah, let me give him his little time soon. You give him his little space. He's getting hemmed up by the face of this.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Because I don't wanna. He's like, I don't want to get messed up. But when they. Hey, that white shirt. I'm telling you, man, the white shirts, them boys, like, lieutenants will hire. They hiding. They at least a lieutenant. Nah, man, I can't have this looking bad on me, man. I can't do. Look as bad on me. I just can't. But listen, you only got to remember. What is it, like, 15, 17 faces like. Come on, bro, I'm gonna tell you right now. When we. When we had our parade, Joe, in 2000, 2005, we had a Super bowl parade, right? All right? And I was. I was. I was. I was only on special teams, right? Okay? So we having our parade. We just won the Super Bowl. You know what I'm saying? It's 2005. Super Bowl. We just won it. We out there. It's what, cold? It's February, Something like that, bruh. I ain't get off the truck. Why I ain't get off the truck? Because ain't nobody know who the hell I was. I wasn't about to be the first one out there running around jumping and had somebody go and snatch me up. Like you ain't on the tape. They ain't know who the hell I was, Okay? I stayed on the truck, okay? And you know what I did after? I was on the truck for about half the ray. Then we started getting a little loose with it. We jumped into the crowd, did a little crowd surfing. You know what I'm saying? Hey, dude.

[Joe Hayden]

So by that time, you knew I'm in the truck.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

We got. Bro, we got TP with us, right? And so we jump into the crowd, you know, they push us back this way. I jump in, you know, they push us back this way. Whatever. Troy, jump in. They start.

[Joe Hayden]

They take him. They take him.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Crowd, bro. They. Bro, we gotta jump off the truck and go get him, dude. Like, hey, bring me back this way.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, yeah, they wanted all that, bro.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

They started passing him all the way out. Like they trying to pass him to the back of the street. Yeah, yeah, but listen, man. Tyler, man, you can't.

[Joe Hayden]

You can't be jumping out there like everybody don't know. Everybody don't know.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yeah, everybody.

[Joe Hayden]

Everybody don't know. Everybody don't know. And it's.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

But, hey, the second one, though. The second one, Solo Dolo, you know?

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, Debo. Yeah.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Everywhere. I'm sitting the trophy down, I'm brunching out there. You know what I'm saying? I'm big body.

[Joe Hayden]

You big body. Big body. Everybody know exactly what it is. Debo. Debo. When you start getting the chance, then you can just walk right off of the joint. Everybody looking to secure the the police are trying to dap you up, no question.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

No question. Though I ain't gonna lie. I was living my life, bro. From the show last night to this drive. Why is it never chill?

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Deservedly so.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yes, sir. Yes sir. Let's go on over here to cle.

[Joe Hayden]

Come on.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

According to Jeremy Fowler, Shador Sanders has bridged the gap between him and DeSean Watson.

[Joe Hayden]

He said.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Shador has bridged the gap at least somewhat. He said. I still believe desean Watson is in a good position though. So according to the athletic Watson lacked consistency during OTAs. Watson's seemed healthy and occasionally threw downfield with confidence. But he lacked consistently consistency and too often threw in the traffic. Joe, Joe, with you, you know, hearing this and things. Well, I guess you, you, you, you had said later on that you believe that Watson would end up starting. Do you still believe that Watson will end up starting or do you think

[Joe Hayden]

it would be Shador? I still think for some I still think that Watson may end up starting. I want Shadore to start. I think that Shadore may end up winning out this job. But it's only reason why I say Deshaun Watson is because I think the owner wants him to play right now. I think it's a legitimate competition and when you start hearing people saying like oh, Deshaun Watson had the lead, da da da. I'm letting it play out. There's time, there's reps. You gotta be consistently good for a long time through the OTAs. Then we got minicamp and then we're going to have training camp. Everybody was expecting now desean just to be have took the job just because he's making the bread. I'm loving the fact that Shador Is coming in, balling, doing what he has to do, not talking, he's just working and both of them are having a legitimate quarterback competition and I think it's going well. I think that some people, when you don't like some people don't want Shador to succeed. So the ones that don't want Shador to succeed. When you hear something good about Deshaun Watson, you try to knock down Shador. When you hear something good about Shador, you try to knock down Deshaun. I'm just trying to be more level headed. Good things are going to happen some days, bad things are going to happen some days, but it's the level of consistency who's doing it every single day. Coming in here, being a pro, not, not wavering, not letting the good day get them too high and not letting the bad days get them too low. I need you to be here, I just need you to be not too high, not too low consistency and that's going to take time. So I'm like it right now. Shador is, I've been thinking like you have to play the game, you have to get out there and throw with the ones, you have to get out there and get reps to see who's the better player. So with 11 on 11, things like this are starting to really ramp up. So you're starting to see, okay, Shador, you're getting better. He's able to show the improvement from rookie season to year two. So that's the only thing I'm like, time is happening and coach not being able to just say oh yeah, Deshaun Watson is going to be the starting quarterback proves to me that Shador is doing exactly what I need him to do. Staying out of the way, showing improvement, showing that you can be the starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns. And Todd Monk is seeing it. Oh, it's a legitimate QB competition. He's not talking about Dillon, he's not talking about Green, he's talking about Deshaun Watson and Shador Sanders. So now I'm good with that. Knowing that we got to go and training camp, he has to still prove himself, he still has to play good during training camp, still has to look good during these preseason games and I believe that he can do it. Deshaun, you know you got a lot coming off those injuries. They're saying it's looking healthy, you're throwing sometimes in the coverage but we gotta see cause sometimes they were saying earlier you were doing so great and then they saying it wasn't consistent but how Are they. They didn't bring up the bad things back in the day. So it's always, I never let it get me too high or too low when they start talking about the quarterbacks because it's people, they know everybody wants to hear about it. So if you say something good about another one, dude, everybody's, oh, no, so what about this guy? You know what I'm saying? So I'm more chilling, loving the way coach is saying it's a legitimate competition. Both of these dudes, they have to continue to play well, and we'll see through training camp who's going to be the starting quarterback. I think DeSean was going to be the quarterback because of the money, you know what I'm saying? And just they got one more year left with the owner. But in my personal opinion, I would have went with Chador because what he did last year. Now with the new coach, with the new receiving crew, they're saying that my boy, K.C. concepcion and Boston are looking amazing. So that's just weapons for either desean or, you know what I'm saying? Ushadore. So whoever is going to be our quarterback, I think our team, our offense, our receivers, our running, our line is going to be better. So whoever plays better at this quarterback position, you're going to get your best foot forward. DeSean, if you start and you go out there with that offense and y' all aren't looking good, I don't. I think it's the weapons that we have. Now it's time to see what Shador can do. If you go out here and ball and play well, it's, It's. It's your job to lose whoever's a quarterback. To get out there, you have to ball because I think we have the players around them to give you a legitimate chance to be good, to be successful. So show us.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I understand what you're saying, but you saying, you know, it's the owner that may want him to start because of the money the owner had gave up on him a long time ago and said that was the biggest waste of money he ever did.

[Joe Hayden]

So I don't think he kind of bring it back a little bit.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I understand he ran it back, but I think the only reason he ran it back was in hopes of that he could get something out of maybe trading him away and trying to recoup some of that money. I don't think it had anything to do with the actual belief in him. Now maybe somewhere along the line when, you know, they got monking in there and he realized, you know, how well, you know, he played in the system that monk and ran, then maybe he might have said, okay, yeah, it's a possibility. But I think it was more in the lines of, you know, trying to. Trying to save. And when it comes down to it, he has not separated himself. The first thing was, oh, he has the upper hand or he is the person in the lead. And now they're saying Shador is coming back. He is the one that is showing promise. And now he don't know who the starting quarterback is going to be because he needs to see what it looks like in live action when the bullets are flying, because is he going to make the same decisions or are they going to be worse decisions? Like, you've seen what should door does in live action. You've had a chance to see that. You don't know what he's done in the last two years because he hasn't been on the field to show you. You just seen what he's doing in pads and, and, you know, and shorts and hats, you know, basically. So I think that it's. I think that's the whole reason that the GM Barry is looking like, oh, you know what? It's a possibility. We want the gambler, the quarterback, you know, and let him get into the supplemental draft. And you know what? But that's crazy as hell, dude. Crazy because, like, general feeling is that NFL execs is saying, like they believe that the NFL is going to approve him into the supplemental draft. Like, that's crazy to me, dude. But anyway, dude, we talking Browns, like, you're talking about two quarterbacks and you're saying, money, not money. It's not money. I think it came down to, all right, maybe we could try and get some money. But for him to now being true, all right, he has elevated himself to where he can't even make a decision where before they saying that Watson had the lead on it. And you have basically not separated yourself. I feel like it's gonna be Shador. I feel like they gonna go ahead and give Shador that chance. Because if you don't and you put yourself in a position where he comes out there and say he does enough, Shadora could do enough to go ahead and win. If everything else, if the special teams hold up and the defense holds up, why would you go and put yourself in a position where now you don't know how much advancement Shador could have did if you had just gave him that versus now having him and then he's gone. You can't pain. You're not going to pain. So why put yourself in a position. Get the money from me. You already wasted the money.

[Joe Hayden]

The money is wasted. Debo, this is what I'm trying to say. I'm with you 1,000%. I want to start Shador Sanders. I think we should give him the keys. I think that if we started him right now, we're going to at least know. I believe that he should have been a first round pick. I believe he should have been the second overall pick after. If you went on Ken Ward, then go Shador Sanders. In my opinion, let him get. There was no competition between him and Dylan Gabriel. It was just because he was a fifth round pick. He's obviously better. He's better. Okay. So now once he's starting, he has a real coach that's rocking with him. He has receivers. I'm saying the same thing you saying Deebo. It's just the desean Watson. I don't want to. I want him to keep. Do what you got to do, Deshaun.

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[Joe Hayden]

I hope that you succeed because, you know, coming off the injuries. But for me, for the Cleveland Browns, that ship has sailed. You know what I'm saying? I hope he can be able to get somewhere and he's going to be solid. But for Shador Sanders is the quarterback right now for the Cleveland Browns. We always been looking for a franchise quarterback. Right now we have, I believe, a quarterback that can get it done. Let's give him a fair shot in an opportunity where he's been, he's doing everything right. Right now. He's building, he's listening to the coaches, he's coming in there, he's not saying nothing. And I think from his rookie season he had things that he needed to improve on. That wasn't one of the best years, but if you know what you got to improve on, that's your rookie season. Like that's the rookie season is the hardest year. And especially if you're at a quarterback and now you got a coach that's rocking with you, you have capable receivers, running back, a competent team. If Chador is not the guy, we'll know. We'll know after this year. We'll know for sure after this year. We can figure something out because we know desean isn't going to be the guy. We're not going to pay him. We already gave him 230. It is what it is. I hope everything works out. We have Shador on the team right now. Let's see what's going on you drafted these guys. Let's see if this is the guy. Cause if he's not, then you guys can move on. But I believe give him a man a chance. You've been trying, oh, quarterback. And then you're talking about a supplemental and trying to get this dude that the gambling problems and all of that. Shador was having some off field bad interviews. His numbers are way better than this dude. So we already got this dude on our team and you trying to give up some future picks for another no. Let's see what this guy can do. If it doesn't work, we'll be right where we were before, but at least we'll know we gave out our shot with the quarterback that we have on our roster.

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[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

To get started and get moving. I wish we were ramping. I wish we ramped up this right into training camp so we can continue to improve. I've tried to be a little more vocal and mean in a mean way. Yeah, I Think. I think that's a little out of my comfort zone, but that's somewhere that I'm improving. Maybe it's good and maybe it's bad, but we'll find out. Joe.

[Joe Hayden]

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[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Vibe. The vibe being compared to the 2000 LSU Tigers.

[Joe Hayden]

Like, I don't.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Where do you. I mean, a vibe is vibe and a vibe is. It's not real. It's not like. I don't. It's not comparing talent, you know what I'm saying? So I think it's more of a. I mean, because you look at it, them boys, they went undefeated, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, it was Joe Burrow and it was Chase.

[Joe Hayden]

That's gonna give him a vibe.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

But y' all been together a long time, but you ain't said nothing about that vibe. Like that, that 19 vibe, you know what I'm saying? You had Justin Jefferson over there. Hell, Patrick Stingley Jr. You had Del Pitt. I mean, come on, man. You had a lot of people over there. So, I mean, I understand what he's saying. Like, as far as. I don't know, maybe it's because, again, he said that this is the. He said this is the most talented Bengals roster that he's.

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Okay, understanding. Because they got some defensive pieces over there with Lawrence. You have Lawrence, you got Cook, Dugger, Boyd. And I think it was maybe somebody else, but understandable. This is probably the best looking defense they had. And when you come down to it, even in 2016. Bro. I mean, sorry, 20, 22, when they went to the super bowl, they defense was only ranked 16. So the best defense he's had his whole career has been a 16 all the way down to. What was it last year? 31. So, yes, the defense had to improve. Move. I mean, you had 31. It's only one way to go from there. I mean, it's. I mean, you could get worse, but with the pieces y' all added, I don't see them getting worse. So when Joe says the vibe, I understand. Yeah. You starting the season, it's a vibe. Everything has a vibe. So I could. I could. I could go with the vibe. You know, there's no live.

[Joe Hayden]

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[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

The old line, you know, they ain't gotta. They ain't gotta do nothing right now. Ain't nobody.

[Joe Hayden]

Not yet. And I think. So with the vibe part, I can see what he's. Ja' Marr Chase defense got better. They had a big. The talent on that team was unbelievable. So this is probably the most talented team he's had with Cincinnati. Okay, I'm understanding the vibe part. What I'm looking at and what I'm loving is when I'm being a little more vocal in a mean way. I don't like that as much for us, because this means at the same time, he's like, if people are missing blocks, it's called holding people accountable, is what I feel like. In a mean way. And not just being like, oh, no, that's okay. You'll get it next time. It's more. There's no more next times. Like, how many times we gonna keep telling you, dish your block, you know what I'm saying? Or receivers, get to your spot when you need to be there. I think when I hear about a quarterback being more mean, it's not just, like, just not letting stuff slide. It is not okay to not be a professional. I know exactly what we supposed to be on. Jumping off sides. No, that's not okay. Like, getting on your linemen, getting on people for not being in the right position. Not just. I think when he's saying mean, I think that that's what he's talking about. And I think for your team to be on point, you need that. You need your quarterback to be on point. Not. Not mean, but be like, really?

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

It's not. It's not. I don't. I don't. I don't. I. I. I think what he's saying is. I'm with you. I think what he's saying is like, yeah, it's not mean, but. But I think it is maybe a little. Because, like, I think for him, he's so used to being. Yeah, chill. They call him Joe holding some. Right, right, right. Holding. Holding people accountable makes him mean to him. But like I said, that's not. That's not Joe Burrow. I hate to have to do this. I really do.

[Joe Hayden]

What's up,

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Joe Burrow? Your vibe. You say you like the vibe. Ain't no live bullets flying. That's cool. Five looks like that. You want to jump straight into training camp. Yeah, maybe. But I tell you what. You tell me what that vibe look like after week two when you go to Houston. Tell me what that vibe looked like then. Tell me what that vibe looked like then after week three when you come and see the Steelers. Tell me what that vibe like after you get there. Okay. And I hate to have to go and do this to you, Joe Burrow, but we gonna have to take away your joy and happiness. Okay?

[Joe Hayden]

Go ahead.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

So you can lose all hope and you can see that it's only one thing that you need to do. Okay? We're gonna take away all hope so that you can realize that your only possibility of happiness would be over here in black and gold next year with the future defending seven time super bowl champion Pittsburgh Steelers. Joe, my mama and daddy used to tell me, man, they said, they said you can. He said, I could show you better than I. Yes, right.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, that's fact.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

They said you don't believe, fat meat greasy. They said you don't believe. So I can show you better. I can tell you now this is what we gonna do. And we go do this. We go do this for your own good, Joe. For the future of your career. Normally I would say it's not personal, it's all business. But Joe Burrow, this is gonna be personal. But only cause we care about you personally. You understand that, Joe? Joe, let me ask you a question, okay, brother? So why do you discipline your kids? Is it cause you love them or

[Joe Hayden]

because I love them so much?

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

It's because you love this, Joe. You discipline out of love, Joe. You understand that? And sometimes pain has to be given in that discipline.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[Tab Ramos]

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[Joe Hayden]

For them to get an understanding, it

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

doesn't lead to a greater or worse consequences later on in life. Then you understand what it is that we're going to have to do here. And we're going to have to show you what it's like to be over there and have your joy taken away. Taken away again. And we're only doing this to create a nice business of a legacy, A legendary legacy to your career. Joe Burrow, when you get over here and get a couple lombardies, you understand that? Because I understand the vibe and it's reasonable considering everything. But you go feel a whole lot better when you sitting over here in

[Joe Hayden]

that black and gold. Look, Debo, you heard what he said. He said maybe it's a good thing, maybe it's a bad thing. We'll find out holding sometimes people accountable when they're not doing a good job. They could be like, man, and it might just get so he said, we don't know if it's good or bad. It might let them level up. But on the other side of leveling up is who the you think you talking to. Like all of a sudden you was all Joe Cool. We was chilling, it was all good. But now you thinking you're going to just be talking to me crazily. Ah, I don't know. I don't know, Debo. It could walk out in our favor.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Listen it's gonna work out in our favor. That's the only way to work out. You understand that? It's good. Listen here. Those two games, after those two games, he gonna be back into. I don't know.

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Oh, no, the vibe just switched up.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I gotta figure. I gotta figure it out.

[Joe Hayden]

I don't know. The vibes hold up.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

What did they do to protect you, Joe? Ain't do nothing protect you.

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We gonna see they pop off early this season too. Like you say. Tell me gonna know early.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Tell me about it.

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[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Listen, you gotta come over here, see

[Joe Hayden]

what we talking about. We not playing what we gonna do. You're not playing this. We are not playing this for your. They're not playing this. Debo. Everybody. Everybody's off of. Everybody's out for it.

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Everybody got approved.

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Nobody's talking about us. They sleeping on the Steelers, man. They.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Let him sleep, man. Let him sleep. Let him sleep. We'll see what they talking about halfway through. You know what, man? Those. Yeah. Huh?

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