Best of NFL News Part 1: TROUBLE in Dallas, Dak frustrated? Jerry Jones Willing to SELL?! + Browns QB1 Battle + Aaron Donald's RETURN Imminent?!

Summary

Nightcap Podcast – Best of NFL News Part 1: "TROUBLE in Dallas, Dak frustrated? Jerry Jones Willing to SELL?! + Browns QB1 Battle + Aaron Donald's RETURN Imminent?!" Date: August 8, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe ("Unc"), Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson ("Ocho" / "Chad"), plus regulars Joe and occasional guest commentary

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Episode Overview

This electric, wide-ranging episode of Nightcap dives into the juiciest pre-season storylines across the NFL. The crew unpacks the drama swirling around the Dallas Cowboys—Dak Prescott's mounting frustrations, contract dilemmas, and Jerry Jones' openness to selling a part of the team. The focus turns to the evolving Cleveland Browns quarterback battle as training camp stats leak out, sparking a passionate debate about merit versus money. Finally, they discuss the bombshell news of Aaron Donald's workout with the Rams—what his return could mean and how the NFL's evolving rules shape modern football. All this is seasoned with hilarious personal stories, Ocho’s trademark football insight, and "Unc's" unfiltered, old-school wisdom.

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Key Topics & Segments

1. Cowboys in Crisis: Dak’s Frustration and Contracts ([02:21]–[11:40])

Dak’s Weariness & Playoff Frustrations

• Dak Prescott voices impatience with another year of unfulfilled expectations:

  "Why shy away from it now? Why shy away from people asking, holding me to the same standard that I believe I can accomplish and the team can accomplish." – Joe (impersonating Dak) [02:21]

• Ocho and Chad approve of Dak’s honesty:

  “Talk your junk, Jay.” – Ocho [03:06]
  “Don’t shy away from it, but at the same time, we get in that damn same position…” – Chad [03:07]

Cowboys’ Contract Math & Free Agency

• The crew breaks down the Cowboys’ contract headaches:
  • Debate over paying CeeDee Lamb and George Pickens top dollar, while Dak may demand a bigger payday with Super Bowl success:

    "So now I got to tax you. So now there's a 20% tax on what I would have, what I would have made on top of that." – Joe [05:40]

  • Ocho predicts Pickens might leave after the season, emphasizing a “win now” window.
• Fantasy vs. Reality:
  • The nickname “GOTI” (Greatest Offense There Is) for Dallas’ offense gets scrutinized:

    “Let me ask you a question. You think it'd be better than the 07 Patriots?” – Joe [08:47] “Ain’t nobody gonna be better than those.” – Ocho [08:51]

• Discussion turns to whether a juggernaut offense can overcome a suspect defense:

  "With such a crazy offense, just can the defense stand up and do what they need to do when it matters most?" – Ocho [07:47]

Jerry Jones Willing to Sell?

• Jerry is allegedly open to selling shares, perhaps to Mark Cuban:

  “Mark leads the way in that aspect…If I'm not mistaken, I think they value the Cowboys—Forbes at 13 billion.” – Joe [10:54]

• Lively speculation about future NFL expansion and team values:

  "It's hard to break because it's so perfect now…But 10, 12 billion, it's hard to say. Nah, we…don't want to expand." – Joe [11:30]

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2. Browns QB1 Battle: Watson vs. Shador ([18:50]–[31:06])

Training Camp Stat-lines and Real Decisions

• Deshaun Watson dominates a camp practice (17/20, 7 TDs, 0 INT) ([19:03]):

  “Does Deshaun having a big day completely flip the script?” – Joe [19:03]

• Ocho says the “job is Deshaun Watson’s to lose,” noting business reality outweighs preseason performances:

  "The job is his to lose. Now a lot of people, they're emotional about it...But the job is Deshaun Watson to lose." – Ocho [19:39]

• Chad points out a coach’s need for an even evaluation—and how money talks:

  “Deshaun makes so much money that ain't, you know, it's going to be kind of hard to start Shador have all that sitting on the bench—46 million on the bench.” – Joe/Chad [22:29]

• Colorful analogy:

  “The greatest apology is changing behavior.” – Joe [26:45]

  • Compares Watson needing more than one good camp practice to a bad partner making amends with a gift—one gesture can’t erase bad history.

O-Line, Supporting Cast, and AFC North Realities

• Evaluating the supporting cast:

  "If we trying to see anything like the Deshaun Watson of old, everybody else around him got to be on it." – Ocho [28:02]

• Reality check on Browns in the AFC North:

  "In that AFC North, Uncle Ocho, the Browns probably got the worst quarterbacks out of all them teams." – Chad [24:26]
  "Ain’t no probably. Yeah, they do. We need to hold nobody." – Joe [24:35]

• On the limits of pre-season hype:

  “Expectations leads to disappointment…that don't mean nothing, boy.” – Joe [31:36]

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3. NFL Preseason Hype & How Underdogs Make Rosters ([31:06]–[42:46])

• Hosts recount NFL and NBA stories about “camp bodies” making teams through heart and hustle:

  “Sometimes guys just need an opportunity. And sometimes it might not be where you are that gives you that opportunity.” – Joe [39:49]

• Iconic undrafted stories:

  • James Harrison, Johnny Randall, Kurt Warner
  • Ocho toasts relentless underdogs:

    “He would not take no for an answer.” – Joe [40:22]

• Coaches already know most of the roster; preseason is about a few spots:

  “With the exception of maybe five guys, coaches and staff know who their guys are going to be going into the season.” – Joe [34:55]

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4. Aaron Donald’s Return: What It Means for the Rams ([51:07]–[56:54])

The Return of a Legend

• Aaron Donald reportedly works out with the Rams:

  “Did it come across as best tryout that we've ever had?” – Ocho [51:37]

  • The hosts joke about Donald “making the team”:

    “I think he could make the team.” – Ocho [51:45]

Rams Defensive Potential

• Serious analysis: With Myles Garrett now with the Rams, Donald and Garrett could make a terrifying pair:

  “It’s almost unfair. You got Myles Garrett on the end. You got Aaron Donald. I mean, man, come on, stop playing.” – Ocho [52:41]

• Ocho thinks Donald took time off to heal and is primed for another ring:

  “Allowing his body to heal, allowing his body to recover. Coming in camp fresh, camp legs.” – Ocho [54:43]

• Donald's place among defensive legends:

  “I think he's one of the three or four greatest defensive players. Where you want to rank him.” – Joe [58:53]

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5. Old School vs. New Rules: NFL Violence, Wide Receiver Bruises, and AJ Brown’s Dislocated Thumb ([60:00]–[75:56])

Old School Violence and Rule Changes

• Vivid recollection of classic helmet-to-chin hits and their suspension-worthy nature today:

  “Back then…it was basically the wild, wild west.” – Joe [65:41]

  • On fantasy stats inflation:

    “It allows for inflation. The numbers are inflated based on, you know, defense are handicapped now based on the rules.” – Ocho [64:37]

• The hosts agree: stats and careers would be different if 1980s QBs played under today’s protection.

Injury Mini-Segment: The Reality of a Dislocated Thumb

• AJ Brown’s injury prompts debate over playing with pain:

  “Ain’t nobody sitting out for no dislocated [thumb].” – Ocho [70:58]

• Ocho and Chad share stories of playing through finger injuries and how players adjust physically.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Cowboys' contract crunch:

  “So now I got to tax you...You made him swim in shark infested waters...So now there's a 20% tax.” – Joe [05:40]

• On defensive legend status:

  “A 35-year-old Aaron Donald is still top three in the NFL. Along with Chris Jones and Jeffrey Simmons.” – Ocho [56:43]

• On Watson vs. Shador:

  “Deshaun makes so much money...it's going to be kind of hard to start Shador have all that sitting on the bench.” – Chad [22:29]

• On Dak’s Super Bowl window:

  "You already know it. Yeah. And listen, it's a good problem to have." – Ocho [05:07]

• On the limits of preseason:

  "Preseason…you're going against twos and threes. Now, that's not what you're gonna see on Sunday." – Ocho [33:33]

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Timestamps: Segment Guide

• [02:21] – Cowboys drama: Dak’s frustrations, contract breakdown
• [07:57] – GOTI: “Greatest Offense There Is” branding for Dallas
• [10:54] – Jerry Jones and the potential sale of Cowboys shares
• [18:50] – Browns camp: Watson vs. Shador, stats, and reality
• [24:26] – Browns stacked against AFC North QBs
• [31:06] – Why preseason hype and expectations often mislead
• [34:55] – How underdogs and camp bodies make NFL/NBA rosters
• [39:38] – Legendary undrafted stories: James Harrison, Johnny Randall, Kurt Warner
• [51:07] – Aaron Donald’s return, Rams’ defensive ceiling, and legacy
• [60:00] – Evolution of NFL rules, violence, and player safety
• [69:09] – AJ Brown’s injury; pain management; playing through it
• [74:23] – Wide receiver rankings, Madden 99 debates

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Tone and Style

• Casual, unfiltered, often joking and irreverent; real “barbershop talk” among former pros.
• Hosts blend on-the-field expertise with deep knowledge of contracts and NFL history.
• Plenty of personal anecdotes from Chad and Ocho, plus wisdom and “real talk” from Unc.

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Summary

This episode of Nightcap offers the definitive campfire for serious NFL fans. Sharpe, Ocho, and crew dissect Cowboys drama, the Browns' eternal QB carousel, and the seismic possibility of Aaron Donald's return—connecting the biggest news to real-life locker room dynamics. The crew's blend of hard truths, football nostalgia, and locker room laughter makes this installment a must-hear for anyone passionate about the league’s storylines and the people behind the helmets.

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For those who missed the episode, this summary puts you right in the mix—insight, laughs, and all.

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[Joe]

Hey guys, it's your favorite unk here. Go ahead and click that subscribe button below so you don't miss a single episode of Nightcap. That button right here. Come for the sports. Stay for the stories. Oh, Dak. Prescott's patience is wearing thin with year 11 with the Cowboys going into year 11. I'm not going to shy away from it when you don't. When you don't have. It sucks when you don't get to play for it, when you're not. When you're watching other teams in the playoffs like, there's nothing worse than that. Why shy away from it now? Why shy away from people asking, holding me to the same standard that I believe I can accomplish and the team can accomplish. Ojo. What's really going on?

[Ocho]

I like that. I like that.

[Chad]

I like it, too.

[Ocho]

Talk your junk, Jay.

[Chad]

I like it, too. Don't shy away from it. But at the same time, we get in that damn same position we was in when Green Bay came in our house and put up 48, 47. Come on, man.

[Ocho]

47.

[Joe]

Rebate did it to you. And then the Rams did it to you. Everybody just be beat. Y' all down, though, Joe.

[Chad]

All right, that. That's enough. Not too much. Not too much. Not too much.

[Ocho]

Hey, Joe. Can I tell you something? Joe? I like the Cowboys. You hear me? I ain't got no problem with the Cowboys. Now, I know I made fun, and I was kind of upset that I knew they was gonna play games with. With Young. With NBA Young. With NBA. NFL Young, boy. And not really give him his money, make him prove himself again, which is obviously, to me, all that is, is the ownership saying, we don't believe you can do it again, and we don't trust you to give you what we think you. You're worthy of long term. I, eh, boom. Whatever. He signed it. He going to play. He gonna repeat it again. The Achilles heel for the Cowboys. And the only issue the Cowboys are going to have is what are they going to do on defense? Offensively, they're a juggernaut. They're going to be straight as long as Ceedee stay healthy and Pickett stay healthy, you have a very, very good running back, and that can get it done for them. It's going to be defense. What are we going to do defensively? For one, can we stop the run, Ocho?

[Joe]

I think the thing is, Jerry said that he has a. They got an opportunity now. He was talking about the Max Crosby.

[Chad]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And they said, well, why did you revisit it? Jerry said, who said we didn't?

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Ooh.

[Joe]

Now the reports are that he has a tree there. There's. He's talking to a team about. He didn't say offensively. He didn't say defensively. I think they're loaded on offense. I think they have enough offensively. I think defensively, yeah, they could definitely use another pass rusher. I heard. The problem that I believe they're going to have, even if it's not during the season, how you pay pig. 43 million and CD lambs, you're number one and making 34,

[Ocho]

man, listen, you

[Joe]

know that's gonna be the problem, Ocho. You already know it.

[Ocho]

Yeah. And listen, it's a good problem to have. It's a good problem to have. I just don't see how it's going to happen.

[Joe]

Somebody's my point, that's my point. With him signing in Dallas, I'm not saying he's not gonna get his money, but it's just gonna be hard to give him. And now you, Joe, the problem that the Cowboys are gonna run into is that you made him play that one year on that franchise tag. So he's not going to give you a discount now because you put him in harm's way. You made him swim in shark infested waters. You made him walk across the Savannah with the Lions.

[Chad]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So now I got to tax you. So now there's a 20% tax on what I would have, what I would have made on top of that.

[Chad]

Hey, I agree, I agree. What year is this CD Lamb in his contract? When this contract go, Uncle Ocho, he

[Joe]

signed a four year extension, so he probably, what, two years into it? Joe Ocho, if you sign a four year extension, I think he signed four years, which means he had two years still left on the, the. So basically, so basically it was a six year deal. So normally after the three years, they tear it up because you start getting to the back where there ain't no more guarantees money. But you got big, big cap hits. And so now we just like, okay, we gonna give you another 55, 60 million dollars, put more vulnerable years on the end and we'll just kick the can down the road. But I, I, I, it's just gonna, it's just gonna be hard to see your number one. And then you pay your number one making 34, and the other guy comes in, he's making 43, 44.

[Chad]

But he gonna come back up though, and he gonna, he gonna get, he gonna get his money again, though.

[Joe]

So you gonna have two receivers making 40 million.

[Chad]

Man, if we win it, Unc, we ain't got no choice.

[Ocho]

Ooh, that ain't, that ain't happening.

[Joe]

You do realize if you win the super bowl, how much you gonna have to pay Dak?

[Chad]

Yeah, I'm sure, Jerry. Yeah, I'm sure.

[Ocho]

Hey, I, hey, I, I, I can tell you this. 88 ain't going nowhere.

[Chad]

Nah.

[Ocho]

You hear me? 88 ain't going nowhere.

[Joe]

No, I don't know. That's Jerry. Draft.

[Ocho]

Well, I just don't see, I just don't see a scenario where they can with Pickens, who is going to have another good year. Ceedee going to have another good year, you know, and I think Pickens won't be there after this season. I'm hoping, I'm hoping they can come out the NFC and compete for a championship, you know, and make everybody happy after a very long wait, including you, Joe, and other Cowboys fans. But just, I mean, listen, it's a good situation to have, and while you have them there, you want to make the most of the opportunity right now. You want to make the most of the opportunity you have right now. With such a crazy offense, just can the defense stand up and do what they need to do when it matters most?

[Joe]

The Cowboys have a new name for their offense. G O T I Greatest offense there is.

[Chad]

Damn. We putting that pressure. We want all the smoke, man.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, honestly, Joe, hold on.

[Chad]

Why don't take his glasses off when he said that.

[Joe]

I thought you normally, Ocho, normally, you got. You did something. The greatest show on turf. What did they do, Ocho? Did they win something?

[Ocho]

You're right. Yeah, they did. They did. But can I, can I, can I say something?

[Joe]

The monsters of the midway, the purple people's eaters, they did curtain. Come on, Joe. Y' all used to be having a doomsday defense, right?

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey. Can I say something, though? Hey, that offense is hell, though, Uncle Joe, that offense.

[Joe]

Let me ask you a question. You think it'd be better than the 07 Patriots?

[Ocho]

Oh, ain't nobody gonna be better than those.

[Joe]

Will it be Better than the 13 Broncos? 606 points, 5477 passing yards, five guys with double digit touchdowns?

[Ocho]

Nah, completely different. Completely different type of offense, but I tell you one thing it's gonna be.

[Joe]

Hey, what about the 98 Vikings?

[Chad]

Hey, hey, why?

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, that's bombs over bad.

[Chad]

Hey, man.

[Joe]

Hey, y' all just respect.

[Chad]

Hey, respect our confidence. Respect our grind, man.

[Joe]

The greatest, the greatest offense that isn't. Oh, man, you ain't did nothing.

[Chad]

Come on, man. Come on.

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[Ocho]

Damn. You just thought that one.

[Joe]

Well, they said it is, I said it isn't.

[Chad]

Don't worry. We're gonna. Hey, we're gonna show y'. All.

[Joe]

Hey, they give themselves names, I give them one, too. Hell, yeah. I'm gonna blame it on you with everybody. Ass. I'm saying, man, Ocho came up with that.

[Chad]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey, I tell you one thing. Them boys. Them boys gonna be fireworks on offense. I tell you that.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Healthy. Well, they. They. They got it.

[Chad]

Dot I.

[Joe]

Okay, Greatest offense. That is it. Go ahead. Joe, there is Jerry Jones ever decided to sell ownership shares outside of investors in the future? It sounds as though he's considered Mark Cuban. That's exactly why, if you're me, you would be open to that because of the man. I have all the respect in the world for him, and I know what the map. What he did for the Mavericks, and he's done for basketball. So you want to associate with the highest quality of a person who loves the game, and then also time wants to do something about it. Mark leads the way in that aspect. If I'm not mistaken, I think they value the Cowboys. Forbes at 13 billion. So even 10%, that's 1.3 billion, Ojo. And now, you saw the. What you call them just went for, what, 9.6 billion, Seattle.

[Chad]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Every owner get a cut of that. Y' all do realize that when they sell their franchises, every owner get a cut of that.

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[Joe]

So I don't know. Look, it's hard to break because it's so perfect. Now. You got 32 teams, Ojo. You got eight, Joe. Eight, four divisions. You can't get any more perfect than that. But 10, 12 billion, it's hard to say. Nah, we. We. We don't want to expand. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

[Chad]

Hey, man, we need to put. We need to piece up a little bit, man. See, we can get us a little. What's up? We get all.

[Joe]

I can. All I can afford is the Gatorade. I got the Gatorade. I got the Gatorade. Two, three years, I ain't even to hold nobody. Hey, once upon a time, man. Think about it, Joe.

[Ocho]

What you. Joe, what you trying to do?

[Chad]

I'm trying to get you an unc to jump in.

[Ocho]

Oh, I'm. I'd rather. I'd rather, you know, put my little money towards a soccer club.

[Chad]

Okay.

[Ocho]

Put a little, you know, 5, 10%. I let it keep, you know, somebody. I could see me a little return, you know, five, ten years from now, okay?

[Joe]

I mean, I think if Smith, Robert Smith, he's one of the richest black men in America. I think he's worth about eight, eight and a half, $9 billion, I think, you know, admitted at one point, people thought that he was going to purchase the Broncos, which would have been a good investment because in three years, they've increased 2 billion. Two and a half. Two, $2.2 billion. They've gone from 4.5 to 6.8 billion in two years. Hell of a return on your investment. Hell, I remember when Allen bought the Seahawks from Ken Baring for. It might have been. It might have been less than 200 million. Just sold for 9.6 billion. And he sold and he sold. They chose the trailblazers for 4.3 billion. So that's about. That's about what, 4, 13. That's about 14 billion right there. One swoop.

[Ocho]

That's crazy.

[Joe]

Damn, Travis Hunter put on some muscles in the off season. As you can see the two photos right there. Look at year one, and you look at year two.

[Chad]

Damn, boy. That's a huge difference. That boy eating.

[Joe]

Hey, all I can do. Look, I ain't got to look. Hey, just look at his face. Look at his face. Ocho, he got caps on his Delt down with a. His chest, arms, delts.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

He like. He put on about 10, 15 pounds.

[Chad]

Oh, yeah, easy.

[Ocho]

Yeah. You know, you don't feel that, like, long. As long as it doesn't take away his twitch, his quick twitch, his athleticism, you know, his ability to transition. Some of the things that made him special, you know, at Colorado, putting on all that muscle, you know, it takes away from being able to do all the things that he's known to do. Now you're putting on the muscle to keep from getting yourself injured, that's one thing. But also getting too bulky and getting too big. It takes away some of the things that makes you special and separates you from everybody else.

[Chad]

That man been in the weight room. He had that little injury, and I feel like he been in the weight room since then to try and get back. That boy been eating away his Uncle Ocho.

[Ocho]

Yeah, he look good, that boy.

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[Chad]

He do give him that.

[Ocho]

He look good, that boy special.

[Chad]

He like a totally different Damn person on August 21st.

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[Joe]

Guys, let's jump right into it. Day 7 Brown's training camp is a wrap. Here's the quarterbacks dead on seven on seven and 11, 11 drills. DeSean Watson took all the first team reps. He went 17 of 20.

[Chad]

Damn.

[Joe]

Seven touchdowns, zero interceptions. Shadows Vanders went 11 of 16, two touchdowns, one interception. Dylan Gabriel went four of six, two touchdowns, zero interceptions. And the rookie Green took no snaps. Does DeShawn having a big day completely flip the strip? Excuse me? The script. Ocho, does it does this change anything in your mind? Do you believe it changed anything in Todd Monk in mind seeing how well he did in 7 on 7 and 11 on 11 drills?

[Ocho]

No, I don't think so. And I'll say it before I know a lot of people we love should do it. We want Shadow to start. Obviously he finished the season off extremely strong based on the way he played, having commanded the offense, and I'm sure he would pick up exactly where he left up last year. But again, it comes down to business, Uncle Joe. It comes down to business and the amount of money that they're paying Deshaun Watson. He's going to start regardless. The job is his to lose. Now a lot of people, they're emotional about it when I talk about this and I say desean going to start. No, I love Shador. I do. I wholeheartedly believe if DeSean doesn't play well by maybe week four, maybe week five, before it's too late. You know them without them being outside the playoff picture, you know, changes will be made. But the job is Deshaun Watson to lose.

[Joe]

You know, the thing is Ocho, and I can't say that I disagree. The only thing is about that and you know how this is when you start the season.

[Ocho]

Yes sir.

[Joe]

Let's just say for the sake of argument, they start the season 05 or they start one in four. Yes in order to get back to 500 Ojo, you gotta go four and oh, you gotta go five and O just to get back.

[Ocho]

You right. You right back now. Yeah, you right by that.

[Joe]

So now, basically, at that point in time, half your season is gone. You lose two games, you lose two of those three, or you lose three. Excuse me, two of those five games or you lose three of those five games. Now you, you, three and eight. What the hell you about to do with three and eight?

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

The mere fact tells me with 11 games to go, the likelihood of you running off seven, six straight ain't very good.

[Chad]

Ain't happening.

[Ocho]

No, no, but. But if you. If you look at it right, I don't. I don't. Statistically and from a percentage. Percentage standpoint, I don't know exactly what week most quarterbacks have bench when they're not playing well. But I'm just going to say a

[Joe]

lot of times, Ocho, it has to. Before you go, Joe, a lot of time it has to do with the bye. When is your bye week? Because guess what, it gets an extra week to prepare.

[Ocho]

Week prepare. Yes.

[Joe]

Do I got a home game? Because I want to start him at home in front of a favorable crowd as opposed to starting him on the road in a hostile environment. Go ahead, Joe.

[Chad]

Hey, listen, I think desean, you know, today he was spinning that thing. He had it going.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad]

But I still think Uncle Ocho Monk and Ty Monken. He really don't. He still don't know yet, bro. You know, I know this was a good day for Deshaun, but at the same time, I still think he has a lot of faith in Shador. And I think it's going to be a battle, you know, throughout preseason, throughout the preseason games. I don't think we really going to know who's going to be the starting quarterback to probably right before week one, if you just want me to be 100. Now, I did say Deshaun took all the first team reps, you know.

[Joe]

Yes, every last one of them.

[Chad]

Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know what that's about, but I'm with you. I'm with y'. All. You know, Deshaun makes so much money that ain't, you know, it's going to be kind of hard to start Shador have all that sitting on the bench

[Joe]

and 46 million on the bench.

[Chad]

Yeah. But then think about it at some point. Do you. Is he ever going to get a chance to play if Shadua starts? I don't really think so. So I'm probably with you. I'm probably with y', all, man. I think Watson is probably going to start the season off as a starting quarterback, but it's still a lot of time left, man. You know, we'll see.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Hey.

[Ocho]

Hey, Joe. And obviously it's a lot of time too. And training camp isn't really a tall tale on how you gonna play during the season. In training camp, you familiar with each other. Everything is scripted. You got players on defense that be cheating. You got players on offense that know exactly what's gonna be in front of them.

[Joe]

Yeah, they know what coverage the defense gonna be in and they gonna run their routes accordingly. They be cheating their ass off.

[Chad]

It's the same thing with basketball, man. When we in practice and you playing against the second team and they know all our damn players, we can't work on nothing. Cause they cheating the plays.

[Joe]

I already know exactly. And I'll be getting mad. I ain't gonna get a live chat. I'll be getting pissed off, I said. But yeah, come game time, you don't know the play, the dude be tearing your ass up.

[Ocho]

Now all of a sudden, you over

[Joe]

here, you got everybody thinking you Deion Sanders. And now when you get on the field, you getting plucked like a chicken.

[Chad]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

You know what? If I was Todd Monkin, obviously, the Cleveland Browns, obviously trying to compete in afc, AFC north, try to get themselves back into the playoff environment and playoff birth in general. If I was desean, I'm just saying, if I was in his position as a quarterback. I'm wanting to play all the preseason games, for sure. I'm wanting to get me. Maybe get me a series in the first one, maybe get two or three series in the second one. And I think in that third one, I want to play to the half. I want to get as much live in game reps as possible to get acclimated to the speed of the game, to get. To get a familiarity with my offensive players, whatever it may be. That is me, because I enjoyed the preseason, Joe. I enjoyed that thing.

[Chad]

Think about it, though. In that AFC North, Uncle Ocho, the Browns probably got the worst quarterbacks out of all them teams.

[Joe]

Ain't no probably. Yeah, they do. We ain't mean to hold nobody, man. Ain't no probably.

[Chad]

They do. Hey, so they gotta fix, man. They. I. I know it's been a while since they really had a. A set in stone starting quarterback, but man, I wanna see, I ain't gonna lie. I wanna See the Browns do well. I actually wanna see Shador get a shot play well, I mean, because if you think about it, he was the best quarterback coming out in that draft last year. You know, he had the highest passing rating, highest completion percentage, and I just felt like he wasn't no damn fifth round pick, man. That's just me, though.

[Joe]

No, he definitely, I, I agree. I definitely don't believe he should have been a fifth round pick. But the question is, and Joe, you asked like, okay, DeSean Watson took all the reps. He's 17 or 27 touchdowns, zero interceptions. Shador was 11 of 16, two touchdowns, one reception. Dylan Gabriel four of six, two touchdowns, zero interceptions. Prior to this, we had saw, we saw the thing where Deshaun Watson had much more in a. Many more interceptions.

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[Joe]

Than Shador. Same thing with Dylan Gabriel. So the question I asked this chat for the, this question is for the women and for the men. Your guy treats you like crap for, say, the last two weeks. Is there a gift that he can buy you to make you forget everything that he's done to you over those two weeks? Your old lady treats you bad for two weeks. Is there a gift? Is there something. Is there a gesture that she can do? I shouldn't say a gift. I should say a gesture. So it could be a gift or it can be take you out to dinner, it could take you on a trip if they're a gesture. If after your partner has treated you bad for the last two weeks, is there a gesture, men or women, that your partner could do to make you forget what she had done? Because that is what question that we're asking Todd Monkey. It did his. Did this performance from Desean make you forget the previous 8, 9, 10 practices? Ocho Joe, I think. Yeah, put it like that. Chad, what do you think?

[Chad]

Nah, I ain't going. I ain't going.

[Ocho]

You ain't going. Joke.

[Chad]

Depending on what she doing. What she do? What she. You say she treated me bad.

[Ocho]

What she do?

[Joe]

Well, the greatest apology is changing behavior.

[Ocho]

Context.

[Joe]

I hear what you say, mama say anything.

[Chad]

Hello.

[Ocho]

Yeah, but my eyes tell me something else.

[Joe]

I see better than I hear. So I think, I think that's the question. Todd Monkey like, well, okay, this, he was outstanding. He had it going today. Kind of reminded me of Desean 2020.

[Chad]

Yeah.

[Joe]

We haven't seen that guy in a very long time. Maybe he popped his head out. Maybe he liked Punxsutawney Phil. So I said, oh, damn. Spring right around the corner. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey, can I say something? Real quick, too. Uncle Joe and those in the chat that are listening in order us to see a 2020. DeSean Jackson, right? I mean, excuse me, Deshaun Watson. It's gonna take that supporting cast around him to be on point in everything that they do. They had Jerry Judy, Boston Concepcion, Isaiah Ford. Everybody has to be accepted. Harold Fanning. Everybody has to be phenomenal. Oh, Bond. Excuse me. I said Isaiah Bond, didn't I? Oh, excuse me. Isaiah Bond. They got to be on point, Joe. A quarterback is only as good as a supporting cast. If we trying to see anything like the Deshaun Watson of old, everybody else

[Joe]

around him got to be on it

[Chad]

ain't just the people around him. It's that damn old line, man. What that old line gonna look like?

[Joe]

It wasn't like. I mean, I think with the exception of Tunsil, I don't think his old line was that good. In Houston, Houston ain't really had no O line. I don't know if Houston's ever had an O line. Cause they've got. They got David. They got a David card, the league gun. They got his ass sacked 76 times in his first year, and he was never the same. So we go back and study the Houston Texans over the course of their existence. The offensive line has been terrible.

[Chad]

Hey, and Shadow ain't had no damn offensive line either since he was at Colorado here. He ain't had no damn offensive line.

[Joe]

Well, he had no offensive line since he was in high school. Jackson State left a lot to be desired. Colorado damn sure left a lot to be desired in Cleveland. Wasn't much better. If anything, it probably was worse. And. Yeah. So I think the thing is.

[Chad]

It's hard.

[Joe]

The thing is, is that being around the coaches that I've been around, I've been around the coach, and I think Mike Shanahan, obviously, Mike Shanahan and Dan Reeves deserves to be in the hall of Fame based on some of the other coaches that's gotten in.

[Chad]

Yeah.

[Joe]

That being said, it's an eval, an evaluation process every single day. And the thing. The hardest things to do, Ocho and Joe, you know this is to keep it here.

[Chad]

Yep.

[Joe]

And not do this. I can't let my emotions do that either.

[Chad]

Hello.

[Joe]

Because guy goes out there and snakes it up. He throws five interceptions with 10 incompletions. This guy can't play. He comes back the next day, Ocho, now he throws six touchdowns with three incompletions. Oh, yeah. This is our starter. You see how has done changed.

[Chad]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And we know Sports, that thing, hey, it's going to be held to skelter. But as it's being held to skelter, you need to be even keel. Your process needs to be even keel. So I, I, I don't envy that situation because the expectations, I think Jimmy and D has them who own the Cleveland Browns. I, I'll take, I'll, I've said this before. The Browns have some of the best, most loyal fans because ain't no way in hell I'm sticking around for what they throwing out there on the field for the last three decades. Ain't no way in hell. I'll just say, oh, excuse me. Since 1999. Yeah, ain't no way.

[Chad]

Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, that's why, that's why you got so many people rooting for Shador, bro. They, they just want some type of surgeons. And for the Browns, bro, they, they just want something to cheer for. Hell, you know, I know we talk about, we talk about the Browns making it to the playoffs in that division, man, it's going to be tough as

[Joe]

all they go 500, huh? You talk about five. You talk about the playoffs, Joe. Damn. Can they go 500?

[Ocho]

Can they win?

[Joe]

You can't go 500 anymore. Can they be nine and eight?

[Chad]

I'm saying, you know, there's a lot of teams that come into, come into the season with expectations, talking about whether it's a championship, this, that and the third. Man, come on, man, that's.

[Ocho]

Hey, Joe, that's not realistic, Joe. If you look at the landscape of the NFL, Uncle Joe, to be honest with you, you probably got eight teams. You talk about maybe got eight teams that are constructed, that have realistic chance, realistic playoffs, realistic chance of not only making the playoffs, but hoisting that goddamn Lombardi Trophy. I mean, I mean, being realistic based on, you know, how they're structured. What you have on office, what you have on, you definitely got to have a defense. You definitely got to have a defense. You got to have an adequate offense that can compete week in and week out.

[Joe]

I will say this. Expectations leads to disappointment. We've all been there. We don't went out. Hey, we don't went out there. Oh, yeah, hey, I don't took it. Got this knife. I brought flowers. I brought flowers before I came because that's what gentlemen, that's what I saw in the movie. That's what they do. Brought me some flowers. Oh, Joe.

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[Joe]

Joe, we got a nice meal. You know what I'm saying? I'm young, I can stay up late. Hey, let's go to the movie. I get to the door, I had a great time. I thought I was like. I thought I was gonna get. You want to come in? That's what I was hoping for. Damn, you talking about a kid. I don't know what I was gonna get inside. Inside. You see what happened? I had expectations based on what I had done.

[Chad]

Hello.

[Joe]

That it was going to pay off in something in the end.

[Chad]

Yeah.

[Joe]

People think, oh, we had a great training, camping. Everybody came in and everybody. I don't guarantee you go with. You go with a whole bunch of damn games.

[Ocho]

Yeah. That don't mean nothing, boy. I don't mean. Hey. Another thing that don't mean none is the preseason.

[Joe]

Absolutely not.

[Ocho]

I didn't see. I didn't see. I didn't see many a team go forward knowing the preseason in layer eight.

[Chad]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Absolutely.

[Ocho]

Regular season. Hold on.

[Chad]

So y' all telling me if a dude come out, let's say he ain't no quarterback, right? But he plays one of the elite positions and you say he come out in the preseason, he ball, you mean. Tell me that ain't gonna put no stain on the coach brain. Like, man, I might need to find. Find some room, some playing time.

[Joe]

Yes, yes, but see, now, you see what you've done, Joe. You put expectations on him. You see what you just did, Joe?

[Health Announcer]

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[Joe]

You said that, man. Don't put a state in your mind that he could do this. Now, you don't put expectations. Now we don't meet that expectation, then what, what we got?

[Ocho]

Well, hold on, Unc. Hey, hold on, Unc. And Joe, Joe, you got to think about it. Now, we talk about preseason, let's say, not a quarterback, just say skill position, right? You got a receiver out there cutting up in the preseason.

[Joe]

Was the guy that, that, that. That showed his.

[Ocho]

Oh, hey, hey, hey. And he cut a fool during season two. He was. He was that boy. But this is the thing, Joe, you gotta remember preseason. You going against two degrees and folds. Now, that's not what you're gonna see on Sunday.

[Joe]

1100 guys gonna get cut, Joe.

[Chad]

Damn.

[Joe]

1100 guys gonna get cut. A thousand. My bad. So they're gonna go. They're gonna go from 80 to. They probably got 90 guys in camp. At some point in time, you gotta whittle that thing down and keep wheeling down, wheeling down. You might have had a hundred guys in camp. You wanna whittle that thing down and whittle it down and whittle it down, Whittle it down. Whittle it down. With that being said, I think the thing is that you hope. Look, Ocho, correct me if I'm wrong, I think with the exception of maybe five guys, coaches and staff know who their guys are going to be going into the season. You'll get a big Smith.

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[Joe]

You'll get a Rod Smith, you'll get a Terrell Davis. But for the most part, you have a general idea. Your starters and your backups. Now, some guys, sometimes guys are going to flash. It's going to be a game. You're like, oh, I got to give this guy, especially if he does it early, because now I got to give him an extra look. Joe.

[Chad]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I got to make. Okay, let me see what he's like with John. Let me see what he's like with the number one defense. Let me see what he's like behind the number one punt return team. So now I can evaluate him a little better. Because if I get him constantly going against twos and threes and going against some guys that potentially might not make the team, I don't know if I'm doing a fair evaluation of him and what he's capable of doing, because I know a lot of the guys that he's making plays against, they're not going to be in the league. So now I got to give him. I got to give him a better look. I got to give him a more extensive look.

[Chad]

Right.

[Joe]

Ocho, you said something earlier that, like, when the guys in camp, they looking at plays and then you see these guys and you know, the guy can't tee off on you, but that guy across the field, he can tee off on your ass. And he tried to make a club. He tried to make the club.

[Chad]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Joe]

So he's looking at you as an opportunity for him to make the club. See, in your own team, guys ain't gonna hit you like that. They gonna walk. Walk up. Every once in a while, you get a guy you know, and then you gonna get a lot of pushing and shoving. It's about, don't do that no more. Somebody gonna throw the ball and hit you in the head with it and hit you in the back. But across that, when he don't know what you're gonna do and you don't know what he gonna do. Yeah, he got something for you.

[Ocho]

It's a different ball game. You gotta play honest. Joe ain't no cheat. Ain't no cheat. Then you got to play honest.

[Chad]

Hey, I understand that. But the many years that I Played in the NBA. It's probably been about three to four times, Uncle Ocho, to where when we invite cats to training camp and you be like, yeah, man, you know, coach may tell you, well, look, buddy and them ain't gonna make the team, but we need some bodies for camp. But it's been a few times, man. I'm talking about about three, four times to where dudes who weren't supposed to make the team, hell, they made the team just by being relentless, working hard, and just out there doing breathes, huh?

[Joe]

Austin Reeves.

[Chad]

Yeah, he one of them. He one of them, bro. You know what I mean? And I just feel like. I know in football it's probably a little different, obviously, but, man, I've seen guys who weren't supposed to be there, man, just have such a high work ethic to where they just wouldn't take no, bro. It's like, if you cut this, man. I remember one time here in Atlanta, man, we had a guy named Ivan Johnson. I don't know if y' all ever heard of him. That damn.

[Joe]

Say, was he a forward?

[Chad]

Yeah, he like a Power 4 on the game, but he probably won by about 6, 4, 6, 5. Ocho, he played overseas. He got banned from overseas, and he came here to the Atlanta Hawks, bro. He tried out for our team. Got a mouthful of goals. Ocho, I'm talking about permanent. Permanent. You hear me? Yeah, man. Yeah. They didn't think dude was gonna make the team. But when I tell you, Ocho, this dude was so relentless in practice, in training camp, like, it wasn't no way you could get rid of him, bro. I'm like, defensively, he was causing havoc. He. In passing lanes, he. You know what I mean? Just doing any and everything. Like, if you tell a guy like that, no, it's like, damn, bro, that's messed up. So James Harrison, huh?

[Joe]

James Harrison got cut like, three, four times.

[Chad]

Oh, James Harrison did?

[Health Announcer]

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[Chad]

I ain't know that.

[Joe]

The Ravens cut him. The Steelers cut him. Steelers cut him again. I think the Ravens cut him again. Steelers cut him again.

[Chad]

That's why his ass worked so hard. Yep, yep.

[Joe]

Alex Caruso, Rod Smith.

[Chad]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Was an undrafted free agent. Johnny Randall was an undrafted free agent, a defensive tackle, weighed 235 pounds, Joe.

[Chad]

Damn.

[Joe]

Had to put weights in his pocket and cut ass every Sunday. Oh, he tow they ass up and talk the whole game.

[Chad]

I love hearing stories like that.

[Joe]

Oh, man. Johnny Randall. Hey, cuz. Johnny. Johnny was in my draft.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Oo you talk about you thought you this joker talk the whole. I don't even know how he had breath to get off the rock. He talked the whole game.

[Chad]

Talking trash, huh?

[Joe]

Yeah, talking trash.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah, John. Yeah. Oh, yeah, big time. I done seen it. I seen.

[Joe]

I played, I played. Oh, I played against him in what? I played against him in 90. Played against him in 91. Played against him in 93. Played against him in 96. 99. Oh, my God. Like, damn, bro.

[Ocho]

Yeah, he would night. Hey, hey, Joe, what happened to Young Bull with the goat?

[Chad]

He made the team.

[Joe]

What?

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[Chad]

What the hell you mean what happened? That man made the team. Ocho. He played for the Hawks for like two, about two and a half, maybe three years, bro.

[Joe]

Yeah, Kurt Warner was an undrafted free agent.

[Ocho]

Yeah, Kurt. Kurt came from Canada too.

[Joe]

He Arena League. I were born starmers. Yo.

[Ocho]

Arena League? Yeah, I can't Arena League.

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[Joe]

But sometimes, sometimes guys just need an opportunity.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And sometimes it might not be where you are.

[Chad]

Yeah.

[Joe]

That gives you that opportunity. But you got. I mean, look, you and James like, because you look, you look at James. James is 5 11. Yeah, we don't need very many 5 11. Outside linebacker. Joe, it is a. Hey. He would not take no for an answer.

[Chad]

That's what you want. Them type of dudes you want to.

[Joe]

He would not take no for an answer.

[Ocho]

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

[Joe]

And turned himself into a defensive player of the year. One of the great Steelers linebackers. We know Steelers, they're long for anything. They're known for linebacker play. From Jack Ham to Lambert to Mike Meriwether to Gildan to Peezy, they've had them. Woodley, they got him. Andy Russell, you name. They're known for linebackers. And he fit that mold.

[Ocho]

Intimidating.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Ocho]

Scary and scary.

[Joe]

Right in with the 70. Steelers. 70 Steelers.

[Chad]

80 Steelers.

[Joe]

He'd have been more perfect for the Raiders. Oh, yeah.

[Chad]

You know. Hey, hey, them hard working dudes, bro, they gonna be the talented dude any day, bro. They gonna beat him any day, Uncle

[Joe]

Ocho, because he don't have one signature thing that he can rely on. It wasn't like he's running four, four.

[Chad]

Yeah.

[Joe]

It wasn't like he was six four.

[Chad]

Yeah.

[Joe]

He was undersized. He said I got to be relentless.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And his leverage. He used his leverage. Cause tackles are high tall. Six, four. Six, six. Four to six, eight.

[Chad]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So guess what? They punch he up underneath you. You gotta basically punch down. And guess what?

[Ocho]

Somebody as strong as that. Hey, hey. Once somebody strong and Deebo get up underneath you, you might as well cancel Christmas.

[Joe]

It's over.

[Ocho]

It's a wrap.

[Joe]

But that's what you have to do, though, guys. That's why. I mean, sometimes you like when you have success, Joe. You know, look, you have success in college and people just automatically, well, he was so good in college. Everybody was good in college. That's how they got to the league. The hell? You make it seem like these guys were bums. Everybody was good. And how the guys got to college. Because they was good at high school.

[Chad]

Yes, sir.

[Joe]

But everybody can't make it. There's only. Okay, let's just say for the sake of argument, you got 120 guys in college. How many they graduate? They graduate a million damn kids, boys, young men. Every year. Okay, of those million, how many going to get an opportunity to play in the NFL? They only got 53 damn spots, right?

[Chad]

So what?

[Joe]

I just need one. I knew one of the spots was for me. I don't know about everybody else. I don't need but one. Hello. I don't know about everybody else. I don't know what they think. What they thought process was. Ocho, Joe. I don't know what they were thinking.

[Chad]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Joe]

I know what I was thinking.

[Chad]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And I know I wasn't going back to Glenville. That's what I knew.

[Chad]

Hey, I went. Yo, next one. Hey.

[Ocho]

Oh, man.

[Joe]

Mike Garofalo spoke today on the Brills battle at quarterback, and he's been hearing about quarterback battle. One is going to be DeSean Watson, which is amazing because owner Jimmy Haslam said it before. They took a swing and missed that. Desean and made it seem like it was over. Look, he's like, I gotta get Joe. I gotta get something. Joe. I've given this man the most guaranteed money in NFL history. I gave him a contract. So check this out. Joe.

[Chad]

Ever.

[Joe]

When they signed DeSean, DeShawn had Not already. He had not even started on the guaranteed contract. He had just signed an extension. He hadn't started that yet. Cleveland gave him an extension on top of the extension.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So he added. He had like one. I think he had 141. $141 million. Please say, you know what? We like you. We really like you. Let go and give you another 89 on top of that.

[Chad]

That's because they had been struggling, bro.

[Ocho]

Yeah. You gotta understand how long they've been struggling, though, Joe, to be able to do that, to be that desperate for a quarterback that was playing extremely well in Houston, you know, and he was able to do it. But not very many pieces around him,

[Joe]

he just had, basically.

[Ocho]

Yeah, he had. He went crazy, Joe. So I understand why the Browns, who've been looking for a quarterback since Bernie Kozar, someone that could steer that ship

[Joe]

and keep him afloat.

[Ocho]

That's why they went at him like that with all that money. And you know what we gonna guarantee

[Chad]

to make sure they could get him. Man, listen, we gotta keep it 100, Uncle Ocho, it ain't worked out. Yeah, it ain't.

[Joe]

No, it hadn't. No, it is. Jimmy indeed knows that desean knows that it has not worked out. I guess he said, you know what the likelihood of me remaining here, he said. I mean, I heard him talking the other day. He'd say, yeah, I love to see sign another contract with the Cleveland Browns. I don't know if that's going to happen. I think he's thinking if I play well, I might not sign a contract here, but.

[Ocho]

Yeah, but I tell.

[Joe]

What I tell people all the time.

[Ocho]

Hold on.

[Joe]

The team that you play on aren't the only team that play their players.

[Chad]

Hello.

[Joe]

Sometimes. Oh, I don't know. You've seen it. Guys get so caught up, man. Bro, there's 28 other damn teams. They pay money. Yeah, go ahead, Ojo.

[Ocho]

I got. I got a question too. Let's say. Let's say if things don't work out now, I don't mean to be looking ahead, not saying that he's going to have a bad season. I'm not sure what's going to happen, but obviously this very well could be DeSean Watson's last season in Cleveland. What? I have a feeling Shadow will take over. Take over for the foreseeable future. And you look at the landscape of the NFL in general and teams that still need a quarterback if Deshaun Watson does play well this year, what teams are out there that would need a quarterback?

[Chad]

What's playing well, though, Ojo?

[Ocho]

I mean, playing well enough to know we gonna take a chance on him. Cause what we got ain't so.

[Joe]

Okay, let me see. You say he throws somewhere between 3,500 and 4,000 yards. He has somewhere between, say, 22 and 30 touchdowns. Yeah, somebody will play him. Yeah, absolutely.

[Ocho]

But I'm just saying. But think about, think about what you just said. That's a no brainer, right? It's a no brainer.

[Joe]

But what might be, Ocho, I give you a prime example. Look at Tua. They paid Tua. And I just read the report that Tua looked like he's gonna be the starter in Atlanta.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I saw that too.

[Joe]

So it's hard to get the. It's hard to find them Joe.

[Chad]

Them quarterbacks. A good quarterback?

[Ocho]

Oh yeah, it's hard.

[Joe]

Hell, if you're halfway deep.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, forget. Forget Elite. It's hard to find a Good one

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[Joe]

Aaron Donald worked out for the Los Angeles Angeles Rams in training camp today. According to Adam Schefter, Donald worked out in a football helmet. He did not wear pants during the workout, but used RAM team equipment and did the workout at their facility that required the Rams to report it to the NFL. Here's McVeigh try oh, ad tried out today. Let's take a listen. What he had to say, I couldn't

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[Joe]

So I hope you're even aware of this.

[Ocho]

Like the NFL transaction wire had Aaron

[Joe]

Donald working out with the Rams today,

[Ocho]

which I guess did it come across as a tryout? It did come across as best tryout that we've ever had.

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[Joe]

You think he could make the team? Phenomenal.

[Ocho]

I think he could make the team.

[Joe]

The kids got a shot.

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Yeah.

[Ocho]

That was honestly our our way of being able to get a workout with him within the, you know, parameters of of what's necessary. But GI Smith said it's the greatest tryout he's ever had. Great. Hey, I like it. Huh? I like it. There's a wind. There's a window of opportunity for the Rams. There's a window of Opportunity for Stafford to get him one more ring, including McVeigh. Listen, Aaron Donald ain't no fool. He ain't no fool. If there's opportunity for me to get another ring with the addition of Miles Garrett, who's now over here with that offense they have with Puka Devonte and Brother Williams at running back. This is it. This is it.

[Joe]

I don't.

[Ocho]

Who. Who wants to deal with that every

[Joe]

Sunday you grab me 30 million while I'm at it, Ocho.

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[Ocho]

Come on, man. Stop, man, stop. And honestly, it's almost unfair.

[Chad]

What you mean?

[Joe]

Why you say that?

[Ocho]

It's almost unfair. You got Myles Garrett on the end. You got Aaron Donald. I mean, man, come on, man, stop playing.

[Joe]

What's that? The other DNA? We had him on Young. I think it's Young. We had him on Ocho. Remember? He from Georgia, worked at work. That's. You know, he went out, worked in a supermarket, got picked up.

[Ocho]

I forgot. I forgot.

[Joe]

I think his last name is Young.

[Chad]

I know. What?

[Joe]

Byron Young.

[Ocho]

Oh, Byron.

[Joe]

Sounds about right.

[Chad]

Hey, Aaron. Donna ain't fooling me. Uncle Ocho, his ass coming back. He coming back. And, man, you ain't doing you.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

Ain't showing up the facility for nothing with no helmet on.

[Chad]

That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying, you know? Hey, hey, hey, hey. I ain't gonna lie. It would entice me, too. Hell, if I had Miles Garrett over there, you know what I mean? I'm like, what? I can come back.

[Health Announcer]

What?

[Chad]

Man, ain't nobody gonna want to see them rounds.

[Joe]

The thing is that, look, I think it's gonna take him a little while because you got to realize he's been away from the game for a minute. So it's gonna take him some time for his spidey senses to see where that wham block coming from, See where that pull, that scoop.

[Chad]

Yeah.

[Joe]

All that stuff out. Because, yeah, when you get away from it, your spidey senses don't tingle like they once did. He would know, hey, that gap that that guard opened up, he know that wham Coming. He know that tight end coming in, that short motion, that crack motion. He know when they would try to scoop it, when they would try to post him. He. He knew all that. He knew to get skinny.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Ah, nope, nope, nope, nope.

[Chad]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And the one thing I will say about him, he never giving you the whole, man. You only getting half the man. He's like a wide receiver. Hey, if you watch him At a D tackle. His hands are unbelievable.

[Ocho]

Yeah, his hands and his feet. And the funny thing, too. This might be a good thing, too, Uncle Joe, for Aaron Donald. Now, I know we say him not having the spidey senses, him taking some time off, but think about what it's been able to do for his body, too. Allowing his body to heal, allowing his body to recover. Coming in camp, fresh camp, legs, no wear and tear on the body. You know, even though he might be a year, maybe two years old, I'm not sure how much time he had off, but

[Joe]

he might be about 33. Go ahead, Joe.

[Chad]

And. And just to kind of piggyback what Ocho was saying. Ocho, you right. You think about it, man. He's been out for so long, them wounds done healed up, you know, he feeling good, you know what I mean? He probably in the right mental space, you know, you ain't been getting your ass beat up, you know what I mean? It's a little different, bro. It's different. Hey, think about it. Yeah. Because if you've been out for two years and you done healed up, but you still working out, staying in shape, man, you gonna always. You gonna always had an itch to come back and play, you know what I mean? Cause he didn't. He didn't leave the game with no significant injuries, you know what I mean?

[Joe]

No, no, no, no, he didn't.

[Chad]

Nah, nah. He come. That man coming back. What?

[Ocho]

Yeah, that's dope. That's dope. I mean, listen, I'm happy for Aaron Donald. I'm happy for. For the Rams, obviously, the opportunity that they have at their disposal, the window of opportunity, they have to. They have to maximize it. They got to maximize on it now because it won't. It won't be that long. Even just the addition of Aaron Ronald. Aaron Donald in general, along with Miles Garrett. Man, that's. Man, come on, man. That's like you playing Mad Joe. Yeah, that's like you're playing mad. And you. You know, you. You getting. You getting your superstars on one team, on Ultimate.

[Chad]

That's cheating, Ojo.

[Ocho]

Hey, listen, you can't run the ball up the middle. You. You drop back the throw. You got to deal with Miles Garrett. You run the ball, you got to deal with Aaron Donald clogging up the hole. You got. You got a secondary. That's. That's. That's good.

[Joe]

He 35.

[Ocho]

Ocho, they played well last year.

[Joe]

He 35. He turned 35.

[Ocho]

35. Okay, listen, a 35. Aaron Donald is still. Still top three in the, in, in the NFL. Along with Chris Jones and brother and brother Jeffrey Simmons.

[Joe]

Oh yeah, for sure. And the thing, look, I know guards, some guards are hate like, man, please stay retired. We really, we ain't really trying to deal with you. Like I say, Byron Young, they got Fisk.

[Ocho]

Oh yeah, Fisk from, Fisk from Florida State.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, he can play.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he can play. Yeah, he nice the line.

[Joe]

They got a linebacker. I forget his name. Stockton, is it.

[Chad]

Boy, he,

[Ocho]

boy.

[Joe]

Hey, they got something, they got, they got something on the hand. They got something on hand and that's what you know the guy. Like, you know what? But the thing I said now here, here's the thing though, Ultra, he said, I walked away because I didn't have the desire to train like I trained year round. You think he can summons it up for eight months?

[Ocho]

Absolutely. Okay, absolutely. Because I listen, someone has to retire for two years. He wouldn't summon it up unless he knew the opportunity made sense. It got to make sense. Not the money, not the money part. Having to get meetings, waking up early in the morning, coming to practice, cold tub, hot tub, rehab. Just doing, having to do that after you've done it all these years, there's nothing else for you to accomplish. You arguably might be one of the

[Joe]

best defensive players of all time, along with our Lawrence Taylor.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I mean, so what, what were you coming back for? Because he understands that window of opportunity is there for another ring to add more on to a legacy that's already cemented. Whether they lose or whether they win, it's not going to change anything about how great Aaron Donald has been since he ended the, the league. It only heightens it.

[Chad]

But he coming in to win though.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, for me it doesn't change anything. For me, I think he, I, I, I think he, I think, me personally, I think he's one of the three or four greatest defensive players. Where you want to rank him. Obviously for me it's, LT is the greatest defensive player that I believe that's ever played the game I like Reggie time with, you know, you don't get very many corners that get mentioned as the greatest ever. But I think you have to put time in there for what he was able to do and how he did it. He made you think about him because he wasn't worried about you.

[Chad]

Amen. Anytime you shut off, anytime you cut off a whole side of a damn field, you're a bad.

[Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Chad]

You're a bad boy.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

He ad Is like I said, man, he, he, he, he's, he's, he's phenomenal. He's something special to watch. You watch him and you like, wow.

[Chad]

Yeah.

[Joe]

But I, I, I think it's, it's just unfair because like I said, I, I played an era where the defense, they knock hell out you. I could just imagine if they threw the ball back then like they threw it now with the rules the way they are, the way they can knock the hell out the quarterback.

[Chad]

Yeah, a lot of these quarterbacks would be out, wouldn't it?

[Joe]

What? Absolutely. Beat the hell out of the quarterback.

[Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Joe]

They would knock the quarter.

[Chad]

I think now with the rules changing that you can't land on the guy when you sack him. That helps. That helps a lot.

[Ocho]

Yeah, you can't put, you can't put

[Chad]

your weight on you.

[Joe]

You can't, you only, basically, you can only put. And you can't hit it with a cross. Man. You know how many times they put their face mask or their helmet in that quarterback's back or up under his chin.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Chin no more.

[Joe]

Go back and look at the hit Wilbur Marshall put on Eric, Eric Hipple flatline and see how many if somebody, if somebody hit a quarterback like that today. How many games you think. Google that right quick, don't you? You tell me, Joe.

[Chad]

How is this?

[Joe]

How many games you think the quarter. The, the player would get suspended in today's game? Like Wilbur Marshall hit Eric Hipple will.

[Ocho]

Okay, Wilbur Marshall. Wilbur Marshall.

[Joe]

I will tell you. And he was out before he hit the dirt. And he was out of the pocket.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah, the one on Joe Ferguson. The one on Joe Ferguson with that

[Joe]

Ferguson or Hippo,

[Ocho]

I think. Hold on. 1985.

[Chad]

Yeah, that was Ferguson.

[Joe]

Okay. Was Ferguson playing with the Lions?

[Chad]

Lions, yeah.

[Joe]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. He playing with the Lions. Yeah.

[Ocho]

What I'm looking at it now. Play action. Oh, get out of that thing. Okay, okay.

[Chad]

Oh. Oh, no.

[Joe]

How many games you think you get suspended?

[Ocho]

Oh, he sleep. But he might, that might be, that might be the whole thing.

[Chad]

Hey, he put his helmet on his chin, so I know his helmet hit him. Oh, yeah.

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[Chad]

That's gonna put you to sleep.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, I don't think that's. That's a suspension for indefinite.

[Joe]

That's the whole season.

[Ocho]

Hey, like that. That's the whole season.

[Joe]

Hey, go back. The reason why they try unovated to the quarterback. Go look at Bruce Smith. He knocked Boomer sizes out. He jumped outside and they didn't blow.

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[Joe]

Go look at it go. Look at what Bruce Smith did to Boomer Sizer knocked him out.

[Ocho]

Oh, let me find that one.

[Joe]

That's why they have elevated to the quarterback now.

[Ocho]

Bruce Smith.

[Joe]

Who was it? He hit Bruce Smith hit Bruma.

[Chad]

It's on here.

[Ocho]

Oh, they, they playing Buffalo too.

[Joe]

Oh my goodness.

[Ocho]

What is the left tackle doing? Who is that?

[Joe]

I don't know what he was doing, but that's the way they used to play the game back then, Joe.

[Chad]

Oh yeah, if you can hunt like that and ain't no penalties. Hell yeah, I'm hunting like that too. You can't hunt like that nowadays, Uncle Ojo.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, Unk. Hey, Bruce Smith got such a good jump on the ball on that play. The left tackle didn't even get a chance to move. Hey, Boome ain't have a chance right there, boy.

[Joe]

You see what Turkey Jones look. What. Look up Turkey Jones. How he slammed Terry Bradshaw. If you slammed the quarterback like this today in the pocket.

[Ocho]

Oh, I. I remember that play.

[Joe]

Or Charles Martin, he did the same thing to Jim McMahon. Jim McMahon threw the ball, Charles Martin grabbed him.

[Chad]

Oh yeah. You drop somebody on their head like that, now they boys over with.

[Joe]

That's, that's the way they used to hit. Can you imagine? And people are, oh, look at the numbers that these quarterbacks threw back for in the 80s.

[Health Announcer]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Now you see why they threw for those numbers. You think those guys gonna be throwing for like 5, 400 and 500 yards? Hella no, siri, buddy. No sir, no siree.

[Ocho]

Yeah, the game, the game is different now, Uncle Joe. It's. It's different. And it, it allows for, I like to say inflation. It allowed for. Hey, it allows for inflation. The numbers are inflated based on, you know, defense are handicapped now based on the rules. So there's really not much.

[Joe]

No, they can't.

[Ocho]

That's why, that's why the names now.

[Joe]

That's what, that's why I say, oh, these guys are so much better than Elway and so much better. Marino. Yeah, let me Reno have these rules. Let Elway them have these rules that these quarterbacks operate under where the defensive receiver, you can't hit the quarterback. You can only hit the quarterback in his numbers and you can't hit it below his. Man. Look, I'm glad they changed the rules. It's for the better because you know, better. We know, you know certain a number of head hits, they add up over the accumulation. They add up. Guys, we understand that. We're not, we're not. I'm not begrudging drudging him. But I want you guys to take a look and see what the other guys had to endure.

[Chad]

Right?

[Joe]

You just could clothesline a guy, you could head slap a guy. Everything goes. It was, it was basically the wild, wild west. It really, really was. They put a bounty on you. They had to stop it because they put a bounty on you. Buddy Ryan put a bounty on the kicker. They're not getting. They sacked. I think they sacked Troy like 10 times. The Eagles did. Boy, the Eagles had a hellacious defense back then. Oh, yeah, Buddy. Buddy was wild. No, they, they had, they had defenses back then because everybody wanted to be able to run the football and play defense behind it. Yeah, but a, A, I still ain't forgave Buddy. Buddy. Buddy was the only head coach that came to Savannah State and worked me out. He told me to my face, he said, we're gonna take about four or five receivers in the draft. He said, we're gonna put them in a bag, we gonna shake em up. And whoever comes out, that's who's gonna play. Damn, Chad, go back and look and see how many receivers they took in 1990. And not one of them was named Shannon Sharp. He told me to his dad, his dad, Rex tell me all the time, said my dad said the number one mistake he made was not taking you. I ain't say I should have been a first round pick, but you mean to tell me I could. They took Freaky Fred. I think they took Freaky Fred Barnett. They took Mike Bellamy. They took. They took another Calvin Williams. They took three receivers.

[Chad]

Hey, I got a question. Do you think they took them receivers? You think you, you didn't go as high because you went to Savannah State?

[Joe]

Yes.

[Chad]

You didn't go to fbs. That's probably. Yeah, yeah, you did.

[Joe]

I did. But Joe, the thing is that when I went to the bowl games, I showed out. Yeah, yeah, I showed out. The guy couldn't do nothing with me. Showed up there. Chisel. I'm talking about Chisel.

[Chad]

What you doing that bowl game?

[Joe]

See, I freaked him in the one on ones when we got practice. See, that's what I tried. That's why I got freaking with him. I got jiggy with it. Show him you have somewhere. I got jiggy with it. All that press coverage. I ain't trying to do all that. I ain't trying to do that. The von come here, huh? That's. He got my way a try to do all that shaking. I ain't got time. Time ticking. Because you know back Then, oo. Hey, you do this right. Hey, you do this like this right here. They coming up through your chin.

[Chad]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Quick, quick, quick. And in a hurry.

[Joe]

Coming up through your chin. Man, that was rough back in. AJ Brown says he dislocated his thumb in Monday's practice. It's tough. I tried to get back into the flow state zone really quickly because obviously you're going through some pain. The game is what it is. You're going to get bumps and bruises, and you have to keep going. I know it's practice, but I'm not coming out of practice. Thumb out of place. You keep going. AJ dislocated the same thumb back at Ole Miss in 2018. Ocho, what is the biggest concern about her receiver dislocating his thumb?

[Ocho]

Nah, none at all. Especially with dislocated thumb. He'll be fine, Uncle Joe. You just tape. You tape from the wrist, from the palm, right around the thumb, and you'll be fine. Take some of that. Take some of that pressure off. They put a little pad right here in between the thumb area, right on the palm. He'll be fine.

[Chad]

He'll be fine.

[Ocho]

He'll be vice. Yeah, yeah.

[Chad]

Catching the ball and people slapping, sticking

[Joe]

their hand in there.

[Chad]

That's a nagging injury that ain't gonna never heal.

[Joe]

If they didn't report it, I would have told that. Cause I'm gonna slap if I'm gonna. DJ what you want, Joe?

[Ocho]

Joe? You good, Joe? I done played with dislocated pinkies on both hands, Joe. All I did was they tape underneath, tape it together. Once they tape my palm and the finger, I put my glove on and I taped the two fingers. He'll be fine.

[Joe]

Oh, you dislocated your thumb or your.

[Ocho]

But both my pinkies at the same time. You see them things.

[Chad]

That thumb make a big difference, bro.

[Joe]

You. Hey, just think about it. If you cut that thumb off, you had to try to catch a ball.

[Chad]

Come on, man. Come on, Ocho. That thumb. That thumb makes a big difference.

[Joe]

It hurt because if you don't catch that.

[Health Announcer]

All right.

[Joe]

Hey, Joe, you know, sometimes you catch them all wrong and it hurt anyway.

[Chad]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

In your hand. Your fingers are good. What I did is I have. I used to wear. I wore thumb guards because mine was slipped.

[Ocho]

I had a.

[Joe]

Mine would slip out easy, so I put a thumb. A thumb guard to keep it from being bent back or still keep it from going like that. But like you said, Ocho, some people do tape it. A lot of D linemen tape their hands like that. Get boxers fists and stuff like that because they're constantly shooting, and you get your thumbs bent. But that is painful.

[Ocho]

Yeah, it is.

[Joe]

It is, man.

[Ocho]

It is.

[Chad]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Wait one. One thing about it is, ain't nobody sitting out for no dislocated. No, that ain't. No.

[Chad]

I ain't saying they gonna sit out, but it. It's gonna linger a little bit. Hey, man, you don't understand how much you need all your fingers and your toes until one of them get hurt.

[Ocho]

Hey, until when I'm hurt, you ain't

[Joe]

gonna tell me nothing.

[Ocho]

Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. I didn't been there, Joe.

[Joe]

This was my right. I had the thumb guard. I. I ain't got. It's in. Still in my locker. And, well, it's taped. It's back in Denver. But the thing is, you know what's so hard, Joe Ocho. And this is what I always, always was afraid of. Joe Ocho. Is that going to a new team and get hurt. Dang it.

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[Chad]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Joe]

Getting a word. You know. You know, I keep. You know, I keep you on standby, Joe.

[Ocho]

Hey, what that is? Hey, I thought you had on some purple and gold. Hey, uncle. You pledge Omega?

[Joe]

Oh, no. Hell, no. The Wonder twins. Remember the Wonder Twins Activate form of a glacier.

[Chad]

I do.

[Joe]

Form of a polar bear.

[Chad]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Nah, I don't know.

[Chad]

Ocho won't watching cartoon.

[Joe]

Chad. I know y' all remember twins.

[Ocho]

I. I thought. I thought Unc was Omega Joe.

[Chad]

Nah, nah, nah. Unc don't take me. He don't take me for that type, E. Shoot, man.

[Ocho]

Unc number one on this show. What you mean he don't take you for that type?

[Chad]

Oh, you. You saying. Oh, no, no, no. He number one for damn sure.

[Joe]

No, no, no. Don't do that, Joe. Don't do that.

[Chad]

Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You for show number one. Nah, I just don't see him doing all that wild stuff, you know, we

[Joe]

had a great turnout. You know what I'm saying? I'll hook you up, you all. Hook you up to a place great food, great atmosphere.

[Chad]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I ain't gonna lie to you. I ain't want to pig out, but them group of bites was jumping.

[Ocho]

Hey, well, y. Y' all want.

[Chad]

My bad. I ain't mean to talk to you.

[Joe]

My.

[Chad]

My bad. My bad. My bad.

[Ocho]

Hey, y'. All. Y' all went somewhere without.

[Joe]

Hey, Joe, they calling me creflo. No dollars in the chat. Hey, yeah. Y' all know I passed The TD fakes. Look at it.

[Chad]

Look at it. Yeah.

[Joe]

No, but I think that. I think that's the frustrating part about. About AJ is that he got what he wanted. He wanted to be. He wanted. He wanted out of Philly. Good, bad, indifferent. You can say whatever you want. Hey, it worked out well. He went to. I went to a. Went to Pro Bowls, went to two Super Bowls. They won one. But I. But I told Ocho this. I said, ocho, if you win the super bowl and you go to Pro Bowls and you still not happy, Ocho,

[Chad]

it's gonna be hard to leave.

[Joe]

It's just time to leave.

[Ocho]

Yeah, it was tight.

[Joe]

I mean, Joe, that's like, okay, Joe, you become an All Star, you go. You win the champions. You get to go to two NBA Finals. You win one and you like, shh. Man, it ain't. Ain't what I thought it was. I thought it was gonna be.

[Chad]

Oh, yeah, yeah. That's a slap in somebody face. Yeah, I know it.

[Ocho]

You know what he want, Unc? He want that ball. That's one of the things he complained about a lot, not being able to get the ball as much as he likes.

[Joe]

Cause, you know, why don't you tell her why? You see what Puka doing? You see what JFN doing? You see what Chase doing?

[Ocho]

Wait, hey, hold on. You do remember when we talk about the top five, the top five receivers in the league, A.J. brown name was always in that conversation, right? That name is. His name is no longer in that conversation. Despite the Eagles winning. You know, I mean, listen, I know it's supposed to be a team sport. Yes, it is that. But also, along with it being a team sport, you still want to remain one of the best at position. When the conversations come up about the position that you do play and his name was completely out of it. I can tell you one thing. This year in that offense where they throw the hell out the goddamn ball, his name is gonna be back in that top five conversation. Hey, I can tell you that. Cause if Stephon Digg could do what he did last year, coming off a goddamn acl, what you think a healthy AJ Brown finna do?

[Joe]

Yeah, but the thing is, even though then I don't know, Ocho. Cause you know, Puka still got. He still got Matthew Stafford and Chase still got Joe.

[Health Announcer]

You understand?

[Ocho]

I understand. And I saw Drake May play last year. Drake May had a hell of a season.

[Joe]

JSN's like, Hey, I kind of like being a 99. I don't know how Pooka in a 99.

[Health Announcer]

How?

[Joe]

Puka's not a 99.

[Ocho]

He will be. He will. You know, I'm in charge of the ratings. I know. A lot of people complaining. A lot of people complaining about the ratings and why. Who is this and who is that? Everybody's exactly what they supposed to. Some people need. Hey, hold on. Some people need a little bit more motivation. This is why they not a 99.

[T-Mobile Terms Announcer]

Okay?

[Ocho]

Now, I wish y' all in the chat that played Madden. Let me do my job. I got people. I got people charting exactly where they need to be.

[Health Announcer]

Huh?

[Ocho]

Just to add a little bit of

[Joe]

information before the season start.

[Ocho]

I know what I'm doing.

[Joe]

They need to give me some. They need to give me some platinum shoes. Cause, Joe, I was 100 at one point, and, man.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's back when they didn't know what they were.

[Joe]

Don't do that, Ocho. Nobody.

[Chad]

Oh, man.

[Joe]

I guess. Who else worth a 100? Barry Sanders.

[Chad]

Who?

[Joe]

Deion Sanders.

[Chad]

Hold on, hold on. To be a 100 now, you got to be that boy.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah. Hey, Unc was that boy. Now we. We. We don't see him playing, act like he.

[Chad]

Oh, that's what you telling me?

[Joe]

That was him?

[Ocho]

Yeah. You like that now?

[Joe]

I really was, Jo. I really was.

[Chad]

What are you grabbing over there now?

[Ocho]

No, probably one of them helmets I

[Joe]

gotta take to my guy at BMW. He hooked me. He hooked my car up. Every time I go.

[Ocho]

Would he gave you some rims?

[Chad]

No, no.

[Joe]

I had a boat in my tire.

[Ocho]

What the hell is that?

[Joe]

A boat? I had a. Like. It was not a nail. It's a boat. Yeah, and it.

[Ocho]

I never heard. I never heard that before.

[Joe]

I did.

[Ocho]

How the hell you get a bolt in your tire?

[Joe]

Don't start me the line. But it was in there. But no, but I. We gonna get that. But I just. I just hate that for AJ Because I remember when I went to Baltimore, guys and. And otas I tweaked Miami, man.

[Chad]

That's the same thing. I remember. I told y'. All. That's the same thing happened to me when I signed with the Hawks that same summer, bro. I'm playing flag football in tweak. Miami. Yeah, man, that thing linger all the way halfway through the season, bro.

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