Nightcap Hour 3: Zay Flowers 4 YEAR $140M DEAL + Puka Nacua HIRES NEW Agent

Summary

Nightcap Hour 3: Zay Flowers 4-YEAR $140M DEAL + Puka Nacua HIRES NEW Agent

Date: August 6, 2026
Hosts: Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, Shannon Sharpe, ISO Joe Johnson
Podcast: Nightcap (Shay Shay Media & Playmaker)

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Overview

This episode of Nightcap dives deep into the rapidly escalating NFL wide receiver market, headlined by Zay Flowers' record-setting $140 million extension with the Ravens. The crew also reacts to Puka Nacua's contract maneuvering ahead of the 2026 season and the implications for the Los Angeles Rams. The episode is packed with candid sports analysis, playful banter, stories from the hosts’ playing days, and audience Q&A, all delivered with the Nightcap crew’s trademark energy and authenticity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Zay Flowers’ Historic Extension

[02:36] - [04:53]

• Zay Flowers inks a 4-year, $140 million deal with the Ravens—$108 million guaranteed.
• This ties Flowers with Justin Jefferson as the fourth highest-paid WR by contract value, but Flowers sets a new mark for guaranteed money.
• Wide receiver contract benchmarks discussed:
  • JSN: $42.15M/year
  • Ja'Marr Chase: $40.25M/year
  • Drake London: $35.25M/year
  • Zay Flowers/Justin Jefferson: $35M/year
  • CeeDee Lamb: $34M/year
• Chad Johnson:

  "Receivers now getting triple figures—triple figures in guaranteed money." (03:19)

• On market inflation:

  "Oh, it's all about timing, bro." – ISO Joe Johnson (03:28)
  "Inflation, huh?... Pete gonna get his money, man. Where, where it's gonna be from, man?" – Liberty City (03:34)

• Conversation on future WR contracts, referencing the pressure now on Cowboys for upcoming extensions (e.g., CeeDee Lamb).

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Puka Nacua's New Agent & Rams Contract Rumors

[05:03] - [07:18]

• Puka Nacua hires new representation amidst rumors of contract negotiations with the Rams.
• Hosts agree the Rams aren’t in trouble—Puka is practicing and expected to have a stellar season.
• Potential for Puka to "reset the market" at possibly $44–$45M/year.
• ISO Joe Johnson:

  "He deserve every penny too, Joe. He phenomenal." (06:23)

• Chad Johnson:

  "He just got to keep his nose clean for the next six months... The last thing I want is to give somebody 100-plus million dollars and then have him suspended." (06:34)

• Reflection on the ever-growing paydays for WRs and predictions of a "$50 million receiver" someday.

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Quarterback Contract Inflation

[07:19] - [08:11]

• Discussion turns to upcoming quarterback deals, predicting Dak Prescott could command $70M/year and possibly $300M fully guaranteed.
• Chad Johnson:

  "Dak about to get five years, 350. 300 million fully guaranteed." (07:48)

• The hosts riff on how the money flowing through the NFL now dwarfs past contract numbers.

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Football Business Real Talk: "Bet on Yourself"

[04:37] - [05:00]

• ISO Joe Johnson:

  "80s owners telling players...we bet against you. So we want you to bet on yourself. Let me see you do it again. It's gonna hurt."

• Chad Johnson (quoting Joe Crack):

  "Yesterday's price, not today’s price." (04:53)

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Audience Q&A:

Shador Sanders, Most Difficult Opponents, Rehab & Recovery, Life Wisdom, City Power Rankings
[22:11] - [57:59]

Shador Sanders as Browns Starter?

[22:17] - [23:59]

• Caller pushes for Shador Sanders to start for Cleveland Browns.
• ISO Joe: Details the business reality: No $40M QB sits on the bench; Shador will be judged by opportunity and timing, not just skill.

Toughest On-Field Opponents

[24:03] - [26:42]

• Chad Johnson: Cites Ike Taylor and the Pittsburgh Steelers’ D as toughest NFL foes:

  "Ike Taylor...he gave me hell, boy."

• Liberty City (ISO Joe): Cites Detroit Pistons during Atlanta Hawks tenure—specifically the relentless movement of Rip Hamilton.
• Chad Johnson: Early-2000s Kansas City Chiefs, but points out the defensive transition at that time.

Athlete Mindset & Resilience

[09:00] - [10:22]

• Chad Johnson shares on being fired but leaning into innate talent:

  "They can fire you from a job, but they can't fire you from your talent. Find out what your talent is, develop that, and you'll be just fine." (09:21)

Music, Spoken Word, and Stepping Outside the Box

[13:01] - [16:38]

• ISO Joe Johnson: Shares he still writes love letters and does spoken word poetry, noting,

  "Sometimes, it's better to be able to express how I feel on paper...because I'm shy." (15:07)

• Liberty City: Opens up to embracing old-school romance moves and poetry.

Injuries, Recovery, and Ankle Strengthening

[47:30] - [53:33]

• Listener asks about recovering from ACL, MCL, LCL tears.
• Chad Johnson (on rehab):

  "When we get an injury...we go five days a week. Sometimes twice a day. The treatment that we receive is so different than the normal treatment that a civilian would get." (48:39)

• Ankle strengthening tips: Use resistance bands, "around the world" exercises; hosts stress power and injury prevention start from the ground up.

Life in the NFL & City Power Rankings (Baddest Women)

[54:46] - [56:26]

• Miami, Atlanta, and Houston are picked as top cities for women, with Boston and Phoenix as underrated.
• Banter on meeting women in places like Target, Whole Foods, and Publix.
• Liberty City:

  "All you had to do is go to Target, Whole Foods or Publix. I'm talking about in Miami." (57:45)

Food in New York & Local Spots

[40:06] - [41:46]

• Where to eat in NYC? Recommendations: Tao, Del Frisco’s, Peter Luger for steak, plus a shout to Cuban and Asian spots.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "Receivers now getting triple figures in guaranteed money." – Chad Johnson (03:19)
• "He deserve every penny too, Joe. He phenomenal." – ISO Joe Johnson (06:24)
• "Yesterday's price, not today’s price." – Chad Johnson (quoting Fat Joe, 04:53)
• "They can fire you from a job, but they can't fire you from your talent." – Chad Johnson (09:21)
• "Sometimes it's better to be able to express how I feel on paper...because I'm shy." – ISO Joe Johnson (15:07)
• "When we [athletes] get an injury...we go five days a week. Sometimes twice a day." – Chad Johnson (48:39)

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Segment Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |------------|--------------| | 02:36–04:53 | Zay Flowers’ mega deal – implications & WR market context | | 05:03–07:18 | Puka Nacua’s new agent and Rams contract talk | | 07:19–08:11 | QB contract escalation – Dak Prescott, Mahomes, Allen | | 09:00–10:22 | Life wisdom: Career setbacks and leaning on talent | | 13:01–16:38 | Spoken word poetry, romance, and old-school gestures | | 22:11–23:59 | Shador Sanders – Browns’ QB battle discussion | | 24:03–26:42 | Most difficult teams/opponents faced in pro careers | | 47:30–50:25 | Recovery from serious injuries; ‘civilian’ vs athlete rehab | | 54:46–57:59 | Best cities for women, lifestyle, and fun off-field stories |

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Tone & Style

The exchanges are high-energy, candid, and full of playful trash-talk. The hosts fluidly transition between in-depth sports analysis and lighthearted, relatable stories, often shifting into reminiscence about their own careers and lessons learned both on and off the field. They frequently challenge each other, offer advice to listeners, and draw from personal experiences, maintaining a tone that is energetic, real, and supportive.

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Closing Thoughts

Nightcap Hour 3 is a must-listen for anyone fascinated by the constantly shifting dynamics of NFL contracts and locker room culture. The episode excels in merging real sports news with the unique personalities, heart, and authenticity of its hosts—plus universal wisdom on resilience, relationships, and maximizing life, both on and off the field. The show remains a distinctive space for late-night sports conversation that feels like barbershop talk with your favorite ex-pros.

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[Chad Johnson]

Ravens signs they flowers to a four year extension. $140 million deal worth $108 million guaranteed. 35 million per year ties Flowers with Justin Jefferson among the fourth highest paid wide receivers as far as contract value. Here are the number one. JSN 42.15. Chase 40.25. Drake London 35.25. Zay Flowers. Justin Jefferson at 35, CD Lamb at 34. But what he got was $30 million more than anybody got guaranteed. Ocho, he got 108 million. Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

Jerry gonna really, really hate that he didn't sign pick

[Liberty City]

because he gonna have to pay him.

[Chad Johnson]

Receivers now getting triple diggers. Triple figures? Yeah, in guaranteed money.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, it's all about timing, bro.

[Chad Johnson]

Inflation.

[Liberty City]

Inflation, huh? Yeah. Pete gonna get his money, man. Where, where it's gonna be from, man?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Just asking.

[Liberty City]

It's gonna be the Cowboys, so we gonna win it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay, Listen, I want me to get paid too, boy.

[Chad Johnson]

I, I, I, I just don't see. I just don't see how. Hey, so what you gonna do with

[Liberty City]

cd he gonna give him money too, huh?

[Chad Johnson]

What you gonna do with that, man?

[Liberty City]

Jared pockets long. Why y' all acting like that, man?

[Chad Johnson]

I know he pocket long, but let me ask you a question. What are you gonna do about Quinn Williams?

[Liberty City]

Oh, hey, hey, guess what, fellas?

[Chad Johnson]

Did you see what old boy just

[Liberty City]

got Jayla Carter from, from the front. From, from the Eagles.

[Chad Johnson]

Eagles.

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Jeffrey Simmons.

[Liberty City]

Yeah, he got a bag now. He got a bag. He got a bag.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, and I think, I think what you call only making like 22 million and you got a guy making almost 50 million a year.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Liberty City]

Hey, we gonna cross that bridge when we get to it, okay?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, listen, I'm with, I'm with you when you're right now. Yeah, I know, but. 80s owners telling players, you know what we bet, we bet against you. So we, we want you to bet on yourself. Let me see you do it again. It's gonna hurt.

[Chad Johnson]

Joe, what's up? In the words of Joe Crack, yesterday's price, not today's price.

[Liberty City]

Hello? Hello?

[Discord Caller]

Hello.

[Chad Johnson]

Puka Decor hired new agents amid Ram contract rumors ahead of 2026 NFL season. Are the Rams in trouble if Puka extension Isn't reached. Ocho, who. Who's this rep? Yo, go ahead. Go ahead. Ocho.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I saw it say it's something sports, some. Some company I saw earlier. Yeah, I saw it earlier today. But no, they're not in trouble. He's. He's in practice, he's working, he doing everything necessary. He's doing everything he's supposed to be doing to get ready for this season, to have another stellar season, you know, and he's going to reset the market. I'm not sure what JSN got. I don't know the numbers. They're not in front of me. Chris Olave, he. He didn't. He didn't get above, you know, Jamar Chase or.

[Discord Caller]

I'm.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm sure he might be right under Justin Jefferson.

[Chad Johnson]

I think that's the same group that. What you call them had. Zay Flowers. Who they have. Okay, okay, okay. Davis, Matabuike, Dion Dawkins.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. Puga finna set the market.

[Liberty City]

Oh, yeah, I already know it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, that. Hey, hey. That number finna be stupid. I don't know what it's gonna look like, though.

[Chad Johnson]

He gonna be looking

[ISO Joe Johnson]

what, 44? 40, 45.

[Chad Johnson]

44, 45.

[Liberty City]

Damn.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah, that's gonna be nice. He deserve every penny too, Joe.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, he phenomenal.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Who could deserve every penny?

[Chad Johnson]

Like tough contested catches, run after the catch.

[Liberty City]

He's everything.

[Chad Johnson]

He just got. Hey, he just got to keep his nose clean for the next six months. Had he catty, had he. Had he stayed out of trouble,

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[Chad Johnson]

probably would have been done. They just want to make sure all the eyes are dotted because the last thing I want is to give somebody 100/plus million dollars. And then I'm gonna have him. Have him suspended.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

And we see they still. Hey, you know how the NFL operate, Ocho?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Chad Johnson]

But yeah, I. I think Puka, I never thought I'd see. Hell, I think I see a 30 million dollar receiver, let alone a 40. Eventually we're gonna see a 50 million dollar receiver at some point.

[Liberty City]

It's coming.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, it's coming. Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott does what he said. You know, when they talk about. Let's talk about it. That gonna get $70 million. What they guarantee the Josh Allen Mahomes.

[Liberty City]

What do you got?

[Chad Johnson]

Two some what? 303. 265.

[Liberty City]

285 guaranteed.

[Chad Johnson]

That about deck. About to get five years. 350. 300 million fully guaranteed.

[Liberty City]

Damn.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, we gonna. Don't. Yo, don't. Hey, don't worry about It. We're gonna be just like that too, see? We gonna get one of them two 300 million dollar deals, but we ain't. It ain't gonna be from shooting no balls or catching those.

[Chad Johnson]

We gonna get something like that. Jojo.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, man, listen to me. Listen. I ain't tell you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, one thing about that, man, don't play straight. We get something like that, I will fulfill that contract, and you, it's gonna be Uncle Nice.

[Liberty City]

No, man, come on

[ISO Joe Johnson]

now. You gonna leave us?

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[Liberty City]

Damn.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You can't get. You can't get the money.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, man, look here. There's a balcony in Bali that's calling me.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, you can do the show from Bali.

[Chad Johnson]

Nah, I got in trouble last time trying to do a show.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey,

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

God don't play about it. God don't play by this. Yeah, well, look, I'm telling you, it's coming.

[Chad Johnson]

Somebody asked me, said, man, your turnaround need to be studied. I said, why you say that? He said, man, because you went through what you went through and look how you do it right now. I say, I approached it just like I did. I said, you see what you fail to realize. You can take a job from me, you can fire me from a job, but you can't fire me from my talent.

[Liberty City]

Hello?

[Chad Johnson]

I still got that. Listen to me chat. They can fire you from a job, but they can't fire you from your talent. Find out what your talent is, develop that, and you'll be just fine.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Come on now.

[Chad Johnson]

When the Broncos didn't sign me back, they fired me from. I couldn't play for the Broncos. I still was able to catch and run the football. So I went to Baltimore.

[Liberty City]

Hello?

[Chad Johnson]

When Baltimore said, you know what we got? Todd Heat. I went back. When I left cbs, when CBS let me go, when Fox let me go, you fired me from a job. You didn't fire me from this talent, because guess what? I can still talk. I can still entertain people. I can still educate. I still can explain what I watched and what I saw. Yeah, that's why. Because they could. They could take the job from it, but. But they couldn't screw up me from this talent.

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[Chad Johnson]

Now. I got two guys that. We play very well with each other. We play. Pause. You play well with each other. We play off of each other. We play off each other extremely well. We play to each other's strengths. We have. We have great time. Even though, you know, Joe don't be wanting to answer the phone sometimes. Joe, he like, man, what you up to? I said, joe, I just can't call to say, how you doing? Hey, hey, hold on. Every time you Ocho call, I get suspicious. Yeah, go up.

[Liberty City]

Hey, Ocho. Ocho, I answered my phone. Look, he called me today. I answered. The first thing I say was, what's up, man? What's going on? What you got going like that?

[Chad Johnson]

Normally, Ocho, you normally.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey.

[Chad Johnson]

Hello. Call the phone. Hello? Hey, what's up, man? How you doing? Hey, I like, damn, Joe, why you suspicious?

[Liberty City]

Yeah. Hey, Chad. Chad. I had to watch. Cause I don't be knowing Chat, you know what I mean? Hey, I'm down for a nice convo, you know what I mean? I'm all. I'm a sponge. I'm trying to learn something. You know what I mean? But when Ocho and Unc called me Chat, I just never.

[Chad Johnson]

I just called to see how you doing.

[Liberty City]

I just never know.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, hey, And I appreciate. I appreciate you a heads up. I say, joe, I might be. Hey, I'm gonna be in Atlanta. Hey. But then, hey, Ocho, you ought to see how quick you say, hey.

[Discord Caller]

So what's up?

[Chad Johnson]

What you want to do? I said, well, damn. It went from. You was suspicious, and now you like, oh, what's up?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, at least he answer your call. Shoot. When I'm in Atlanta.

[Liberty City]

Stop it, man. You talking about old stuff. Why you talking about old stuff?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yo, that was just three weeks ago, man.

[Liberty City]

Hey, hey, hey, hey.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I was in. I was in Atlanta. I was in Atlanta for two days, man. I was like, you know what? I'm in Atlanta. Let me hit Joe, you know, go grab a little bit and, you know. You know, politic a little bit, man.

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

I called him three times.

[Chad Johnson]

Don't. Don't do.

[Liberty City]

Don't. Don't. Don't do that. Cause I answer your calls when you call me. Listen.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that. You answer my call when I'm in Miami.

[Liberty City]

Yeah, man. Bro, bread, man. We would have had a good little old time. Boy, you missed out.

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[Chad Johnson]

Hey, I. I could come back here.

[Liberty City]

First off, that thing was off the meat rack. You hear me? That thing was jumping. But, you know, un. Move like the president, you know what I mean? Like, we in and out like a robbery. You know what I mean?

[Chad Johnson]

We a. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Liberty City]

We a.

[Chad Johnson]

Wasting too much time. Yeah. Hey, I got Joyce. Hey, my guy coming. They ushered me. You got him? Swooped him in. Straight to the back.

[Liberty City]

Hey, the back.

[Chad Johnson]

Straight to the. Straight to the back.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What's the name? Of the place, though. What's the name of the place?

[Liberty City]

It's McK. McK. But we had a good time. Hey, Oo. We had a good time, man. We had a good time.

[Chad Johnson]

If you in Atlanta, let us know.

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[Liberty City]

We.

[Chad Johnson]

If you in Atlanta next week, let us know. We'll hook it up. I call the guy, he'll hook it up for us.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

McK. That's a.

[Chad Johnson]

That's. That's a restaurant. It's like. It's a restaurant. It's a Speak easy. You. They got hookah. They got little hookah lounge over there. They got. Play great music. It's a great.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I can smoke my. I can smoke my cigars in there. Oh, hey, I'm. Hey, listen, I'm with you. When you're right and you said speak easy, they listen. You know, I like. You know, I like to get up there and. And get a word, huh?

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, Lord have mercy.

[Liberty City]

Here we go.

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, if, Listen, if y'. All, I got somebody get up there.

[Liberty City]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. You do open mic, like poetry and all that?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Listen, can I. Hey, listen, I know I'd be playing around, Joe. I used to do spoken word down here at the Hard Rock Cafe at the Hard Rock Hotel down here at the piano Bar?

[Nightcap Listener]

Yeah, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. You know, they got a piano bar and they have. I do a little spoken word, man. You know, I'm into poetry and I mean, poems and stuff like that.

[Liberty City]

I like stuff like that, Ocho. You know what I mean? I. I like to step outside the box a little bit. I don't like to do everything that everybody else doing. I don't mind a little Porsche, you know what I mean? Like, I, I, I. I enjoy stuff like that, man.

[Chad Johnson]

Man, look, I'm trying to get. Look, I'm gonna go in there and have a little conversation. I mean, Joe, I mean, I was like, hey, Joe, you ready to go?

[Liberty City]

I'm like, well, damn, Joe.

[Chad Johnson]

Jody. Like, bro, you ready to go? Can we. Let's, let's. Let's blow this joke.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Right, right, right.

[Liberty City]

Hey, Ocho,

[Chad Johnson]

it's a nice vibe.

[Liberty City]

It is.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I'm. I'm gonna do that. Joe, I'm glad to know you, like, you know, spoken word and stuff. Like, like, let me say, you know, Joe, you know something I still do to this day, because I love poetry and I love putting wordplay together. You know, I still write love letters, Joe.

[Liberty City]

To your old lady.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And I. I mail it. I mail it to us, you know, so, you know, because sometimes I'm it's better for me to be able to express how I feel, you know, on paper as opposed to being able to communicate in person because I'm shy.

[Liberty City]

I ain't buying that shot still. But, you know, I ain't wrote a love letter, Ocho, since I was in junior high school, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, matter of fact, Joe, let me tell you, surprise your girl, boy, surprise just right. Ain't got to be long. Just, just tell her how you feel and how much you appreciate, you know, what y' all been through throughout the years. And having her by your side is a foundation that you can continue to build on later on in the future. Joe, I'm telling you, man, she was like, oh, my God. And spray a little cologne.

[Liberty City]

You know what? Typically, I be a little close minded off the stuff you be kind of referring to, you know, you be trying to get us to do right. So, you know, I, I, I, I kind of, you know, but, but I, I like the, I like the love letter thing. Yeah, but, but typically, you know, you be a little offhand, you know what I mean?

[Chad Johnson]

But your boy, that Joe, now, you know, you work, you know, your boy got the gift, the gab.

[Liberty City]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm with you. I'm with you. You all right.

[Chad Johnson]

You ain't all right, nobody. I think the last one, I think I might have wrote one in college. In college, 35 years ago, so. Damn, Joe, I graduated college before you graduated junior.

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joe, sometimes you gotta, you know, I know, you know, some people, you know, it's old school and, you know, but I mean, a letter, open up a letter, it just, it just does something to the psyche.

[Liberty City]

Yeah, I appreciate that one, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

But you know what it is? Yeah, My head, my. My eye. I mean, kids don't even write in cursive anymore. My handwriting's terrible because I don't really write no more. I mean, I find myself writing in cursive, and the next thing you know, I'm printing. I'm like, well, damn, it is what it is. I didn't let my daughter. My daughter. I let my daughter write because she got great.

[Liberty City]

Great.

[Chad Johnson]

I mean, she has great. And my sister. Yeah, mine is awful. Mine is terrible. So you think Puka gonna get paid? Oh, you think he'll get paid? You think? Let me the. No, the question is, we know he's gonna get paid. Does he get paid before the season or does he have to play this season under the contract?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They just under n. I think they definitely gonna take care of him before, huh? They, they definitely gonna take care of before. Get it out the way, you know, not only are they gonna get it out the way, make him happy, let him know how much you listen. We paying you this money because we appreciate you not only what you've done, but what you're gonna do for us for the foreseeable future. And he gonna be one of the reasons why they make it if they do make it. What? Guess what? The super bowl at this show. And tell me that won't be the perfect story.

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[Liberty City]

Hey, that's why. Aaron Donald coming back.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Listen, hey. The writing is on the wall now. The writing is on the wall.

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[Chad Johnson]

We got two video voicemail from my discord. Let's take a listen to what they had to say.

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[Discord Caller]

un oo Joe. What's good with y'? All? We missed y'. All. Glad y' all back. Oo I came to talk to you dog. You see the jersey? Remember I came on here a couple months ago. I talked to you about Shador Sanders being the guy for the Cleveland Browns and he's being the starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns and you told me money this and money that. Have you been seeing my dog lately? Have you seen the mean demonstration he been putting down the belt two ass he been putting down. Ooh. I'm coming here to say dog. Shador Sanders win this quarterback battle man. Come to Cleveland dog, let's go to a game together. Come on, big dog. You know it's all love for you out. Come on, man. Come to a game, man.

[Chad Johnson]

Let's turn up.

[Discord Caller]

Let's celebrate Shador getting a dub, and Shador just throwing some dots out there and winning the game, man. Come on, man. Y' all know what type of time I'm on. Mean demonstration.

[Liberty City]

Oh, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, listen, I love it. I love the enthusiasm. See that same enthusiasm, Uncle Joe, that he just had. I got that same enthusiasm about Shador as well. I always have. I've supported him since he was at Jackson State. I supported him at Colorado. But I also understand how this business works. I understand that, and that's the part that people are failing to realize and just eliminating it in general. You're not having a quarterback making $40 million a year sitting on the bench. You're not he going to be the starter, and it's going to be a job to lose. That's just the way it goes. This is the nature of this business in general, you know, hey, listen, I'm with you all the way, you know, that's my boy. I want. I want him in there and I want him playing, too, you know, but that's just not how it's gonna rock. Based on the way this business, the way they. You have to think like them, the people that sit up high, you know, with the jacket, with the suit and tie. Huh?

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They cut them checks. It's different. They move different. They don't think the way me and you think. That's why they in the position they in.

[Chad Johnson]

Let's take a listen to the second one.

[Nightcap Listener]

What's going on? Nightcap? Uncan Ocho, welcome back. And ISO Joe, you did your thing. You held it down, and you did a phenomenal job filling in for Uncan Ocho. I don't think any of us at Nightcap expected anything different. So kudos to you, ISO Joe. My question for you guys is which player or team gave you the most fits during your playing career? I hope you all have a good one. Keep putting out the amazing content. This podcast is fantastic. And, yeah,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

the most fits it.

[Chad Johnson]

It would have to be somebody, Ocho, that you played because, like, you play somebody once every three to four years, that really don't count. It's gonna need to be somebody in your division that you see at least twice a year. Sometimes you end up seeing them three times a year.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, well, I mean, honestly, I mean, when we speak about teams and giving me fits, you would think it would be the Steelers or the. Or the Browns or the Ravens. But I. I kind of had my way with the Browns. No disrespect. I kind of had my way with the Ravens. And I'm not saying it's in a disrespectful way. If there was a team that gave me fits, it would probably be Ike Taylor and them damn Skillers. It would probably be Ike Taylor and damn Steelers, boy. Hey, Reverend Ike, I don't know you at. Boy, I love you, boy. I miss them battles. I miss competing against you. But you. You wanted the best ever, man. And I just want to give you your flowers. You know why? You can still smell them. I don't get to see you as often as as I should. But what I. Ike Taylor was that boy, Joe. You know, he was that boy. He. He gave me hell, boy. So if there's somebody that gave me fits, and I'm. I'm not talking about the defense was great in it, you know, in its totality in general. But that goddamn Reverend I.

[Liberty City]

For me, Uncle Ocho, I'm gonna have to say, you know, I'm basing it off me being playing here in Atlanta when we should play against Detroit with Chauncey Billa, Rip Hamilton, Tayshawn Prince, Rashid Wallace, Ben Wallace. Oh, my God.

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[Liberty City]

them boy use a raise. Hell. Cause for me at the two guard, Uncle Ocho, I got a guard, Rip Hamilton. He, he, he, he don't stop moving.

[Chad Johnson]

He running all night long.

[Liberty City]

It's hell chasing him all game.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He like. He likes Steph. He likes Steph Curry with it.

[Liberty City]

But then on. On offense, when I got the ball, I got Tayshon Prince Garden. Taysha got seven three wingspan. He six nine. Man, was just.

[Chad Johnson]

It was too.

[Liberty City]

And they played great team defense. Yeah. And they, they was a juggernaut, bro. They was a hell of a team. I ain't gonna lie. I never look forward to playing the Pistons.

[Chad Johnson]

I'll probably say early Kansas City, obviously. I had some, you know, some big games against Kansas City. You know, I set the record against them. And people like, well, how you set the record against them? That was not the Kansas City that I grew up with in the 90s. Them Kansas City team were a lot different at that point in time. The Kansas City team, that was in the 2000s, they had morphed into an offensive team. Oh, so, you know, they got Priest Holmes, they got Trent Green. You know, they're an offensive team now. They're not. They're not predicated. DT had passed away all the, the pre, you know, no more dc, no more James Hasty, Kevin Ross and Albert Lewis. They had all retired kp, Martin Bay. All those guys are gone. So this was a totally different team that I faced in the 2000 when I started having a lot lot more successful as opposed to the 90s. But I'll probably say Kansas City drew Jitsu 83, potato, tomato, a whole NC round one by KO. Get the F out of here, bro. I guess there was a fight tonight.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It was on a Wednesday.

[Chad Johnson]

Start me to lie, he geeked about something. Great show fellas. But the tracker doesn't tell the whole story. Shador and Watson alternate one with the ones Shador is with the ones tomorrow. What you thinking? What you thinking?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, listen, you right, I like the alter the alternated the alternating chances for each quarterback, you know, to allow them to be able to see what they could do. You know, we talk about the reps Chador not getting the reps with the ones last year when they were playing the Merry Go Round game, you know, with the quarterback situation last year. So now you know, alter alternating the reps, you know, between desean, you know, doing it one day and Shador doing it the following. You know, it gives the, the quarterback coach, the head coach and the people that's sitting upstairs looking down a better idea on what they want to do. And, and, and let's say even if Shador doesn't start, even if he doesn't, they still know well, if we start Deshaun, we start desean Watson. We know good and goddamn well based on what we've seen from Shador, we comfortable when it is his time to go in and play.

[Chad Johnson]

Teague said when the Hawks cut Ivan, he still showed up to practice and nobody told him to leave. Ivan was that boy, he was hard nosed player. He said when they cut Ivan Johnson, he still showed up to practice.

[Liberty City]

Yeah, they had already traded me by then. He still played like a year or two after I left. But I heard that same thing. He, he, he was one of them, Ocho. Yeah, I mean, wait, hold on, hold on.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They cut him and he showed up in practice anyway.

[Liberty City]

Come on, I told you. Look that man, they ain't even think the man gonna make the team. The man got into it with Josh. Him and Josh about to fight. He about to fight Stackhouse, that man about to fight everybody on the damn team. Yeah, he was good that he was good. He was relentless, Ocho. Like, you know what I mean? Like, okay, it's like I might be undersized at the position that I'm playing, but my heart and how hard I play, man, y' all can't do nothing with this. You know what I mean? That's what it was, bro. It wasn't just practice, though. Uncle Ocho, when he got in the game, that boy made plays, man. That boy made plays, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, that's. Hey, that's funny, though. They done cut it, and he showed up to practice.

[Chad Johnson]

Anyway, now, they probably got key cards. Your key card. Your key card won't work now.

[Liberty City]

There you go. There you go. They cut it off. Hey, hey. You be.

[Chad Johnson]

You beating on that, though.

[Liberty City]

Hey, I didn't see that happen before, too.

[Chad Johnson]

Filthy McNasty, 22:081 if y' all double as a church, then I'm here to pay my tithes. Keep preaching up there, sweating like a Pentecostal minister. You don't have that. That tent revival. Ain't nothing like that tit revival. Them big old industrial fans going, Joe. Oh, we.

[Liberty City]

They don't know about that.

[Chad Johnson]

420, LAF FC and Niner fan. Ocho, when are you guys coming down to watch lafc? And your cousin Sonny? Thanks, guys.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, I'm.

[Discord Caller]

I'm.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm glad you just asked me that question, too, but I'm coming to watch my cousin soon, and it's so dope. And, you know, human son obviously played for Tottenham. He's down in LAFC right now. South Korean player, played for the national team. Just left the World Cup. He said, it's a pleasure to meet you. And I see the tweets about us being cousins over the years. And he said, anytime, anytime. It would be an honor. You. You come to lafc, you come watch the game. So I'm definitely. I'm definitely gonna get down there probably before. Before football season start. Because one football season starts, I'm. I'm locked in. Everything is strictly football from that point on, so. So I definitely got to get down there. Man. I can't wait.

[Chad Johnson]

We got. We got some news to share in a couple of weeks. Well, probably next week. Good news. Good, great news. All right, Ash, we're gonna share the news next week. Yes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hold on. Well, y' all ain't gonna tell me?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, we're gonna tell you. Well, yeah, I tell you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay.

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. Let me know. Let me early so I can prepare now. You know, I got to be able to prepare. I gotta do my head.

[Chad Johnson]

Real sports talk. 8350, your nightcap. what point do you think Mendoza will start the season?

[Liberty City]

Hold on cuz they got. They got first cousins.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Kurt Cousins, man.

[Chad Johnson]

First cousin knows this offense. He played this offense for a number of years in Washington. He played in it in Minnesota. So he has a substantial advantage. But what you waiting on going into the season?

[Liberty City]

What you waiting on if you the Raiders though?

[Chad Johnson]

I don't want to feed him to

[ISO Joe Johnson]

the wolves like that, Joe.

[Liberty City]

You don't.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Don't do it to him, Joe. No, Joe. They had the number one pick for a reason, Joe. They ain't turning around that fast in just a year. Put that boy out there under that center. Don't do it to him.

[Liberty City]

Also, I guess, I guess you and Unc figured Kirk Cousin gonna go over there and he gonna. He just gonna be a shining star or something.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, but you, you put Fernando Mendoza

[Chad Johnson]

to Mendoza. To Mendoza is kind of like, okay, yeah, let him.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Let him develop. We said we heard Tom Brady talk about that. They don't put these young players out there too early without no development. Let him develop a little bit. Let him learn behind Kirk cut. Let him learn behind the veteran for a little bit, baby.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, Nightcap. Can they pay Aaron Donald top tier money with the salary cap or will they come. Will he come back for veteran minimum? Aaron Donald gonna get about $30 million. He ain't come back with no bet minimum.

[Liberty City]

They can pay him that.

[Chad Johnson]

They go pay him that and he gonna.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He gonna get. They. They still got his rights.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

So it's picking up right where he left off.

[Chad Johnson]

Yep.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, honestly, Joe, even with two years off, he's still worth every dime.

[Chad Johnson]

Thank God I'm black 370. Who's a better story? Anthony Allen or 1987 Scab or Kurt Warner? Kurt Warner,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Kurt.

[Chad Johnson]

Y' all do realize Curtis in the hall of Fame, right? He won the super bowl, went to three Super Bowls. He was a two time league mvp, a two times super bowl mvp. And before Tom Brady came along, he's the first quarterback to throw 400 yards of the Super Bowl. Kurt Warner, Brendan Crow, 3403. Money is spent already. Watson is. Is no more. He's shown us the last four years. Brown's clearly moving in youth direction. Todd is coaching for his job.

[Liberty City]

Damn.

[Chad Johnson]

After one year y' all flee. The man coaching for his job.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The man man even had a season in.

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Yay.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Somebody coaching for a job.

[Liberty City]

Yeah. Y' all know you hired to get fired here.

[Chad Johnson]

Why does the second round pick that wasn't expected to do much won a ring, been the two subos and one a Super Bowl MVP has more to prove than all these quarterbacks y' all hype every year and nothing is one. Nothing. At some point, the media gonna run out of excuses for these. These hype trains. Yeah,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

well, only. Only one team could win these years.

[Chad Johnson]

He's talking about Jalen hurts.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh,

[Chad Johnson]

You think, you think they believe in Jayla hurts?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hell yeah. But young bull ain't going.

[Chad Johnson]

No, I'm saying look at the offense they run. Why they don't let him throw it like the other quarterbacks let them throw the ball.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, that. Their offense isn't predicated on Jaylen throwing the ball. Like, why not? I mean, that's. That's based on the court.

[Chad Johnson]

They got a great offensive line that can protect the quarterback out of the yin yang. And you mean to tell me you got A.J. brown, you got Devonte Smith, you got Mike. What's the. What's the quarterback day? What's the tight end? They got a very good tight end, Dallas Goddard.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, got it. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Do they believe in it? They believe that if we minimize his opportunity to throw the football, we have a better chance to win it. That's why they got. That's why they went out there and signed Saquon and free agency. Look, that's not. See, when we tell you something, you're like, oh, but you don't want to hear what we got to say anyway. So I already know why you ask. Because if I we Ocho and I tell you, you like, oh, but y' all don't say that about Justin Herbert. Y' all don't say that about this. Because they put the ball in those guys hands and they don't ask them to run the ball. Saquon to run the ball 300 times like they do.

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[Chad Johnson]

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Throw the football?

[Chad Johnson]

Yes. Is he as gifted a pure passer as some of these other guys know?

[Liberty City]

But I don't think he has to

[Chad Johnson]

be to get the job done. See, the question is, do you want to get the job done or do you want something aesthetically pleasing? See, some people go like these fancy restaurants and they got. Oh, the presentation is great. The food tastes like bull jive though, right? I don't care nothing about no aesthetically pleasing. I want to win games. Yeah, they win games, right? You might not like how they win the game, but they win if the objective is to win the game. Hello. You play to win the game.

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Win the game. Her. Her mem.

[Chad Johnson]

But they got rid of. They got Rid of AJ There's a lot of pressure on him because now I think Smitty can be number one. But they got it. They got Malachi Lemon.

[Liberty City]

I think they got.

[Chad Johnson]

I think they got guys that can step up and make plays. Yeah. Big Lane is back healthy. The offensive line is healthy. They'll be back to being a dominant team again. They were Nick last year. Lane goes out. You know, the center was. Nick Dickerson was nicked all year long. He limped into the season. He limped out of the season. Those guys back running. You guys going to talk about Braun? Ocho was wrong. We talked about LeBron on Monday.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Where you been?

[Chad Johnson]

All right. It's decision gets his goat. Ocho gets a hyena, and I. So ISO gets a capuchin. And y' all keep us updated on raising them. Well, first of all, I'm not bringing my goat around Ocho's hyena. Second. Second of all, I have a little. I have some experience with raising animals. That one don't.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Me too. Hey, hold on. Hey, My. My hand. My hyena gonna be. He gonna be domesticated, right? He gonna be a vegetarian.

[Chad Johnson]

He gonna be vegan?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, mine gonna be a. A vegetarian.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, he gonna be pescatarian. Pescatarian.

[Liberty City]

We eat fish.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What's that?

[Chad Johnson]

Seafood. Seafood.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My hyena gonna be a. A pegatarian.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay.

[Liberty City]

That damn thing gonna eat o ass over there.

[Chad Johnson]

Exactly.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I got this. I got it.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, and I. So please pray for brother Ocho if he gets a hyena pup.

[Liberty City]

Man,

[Chad Johnson]

is KJ gaming one, bro?

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[Chad Johnson]

Gregory Grogan, 4877. What's up? Nightcap? Has anyone been to New York? I traveled to New York for the Cardinals and the Yankees, and we're looking for something good. Something good to eat. Any ideas? Absolutely. I have no idea.

[Liberty City]

Me neither, bro.

[Chad Johnson]

Be careful.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, it's. It's a little. It's a little cute. Look, you probably might. Might not like the restaurant I choose. Little Cuban spot. Little Cuban spot.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, you like Cuban sandwiches?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, not sandwiches. I always get. I always get churrasco steak, white rice, Maduro's sweet plans with it.

[Chad Johnson]

I like the Cuban sandwich without the pimple.

[Liberty City]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Tell him. Tell them. Go to Tao.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, 58.

[Liberty City]

Oh,

[Chad Johnson]

towel, 58 between park and Madison.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know what? I don't like saying the sound of that.

[Chad Johnson]

No, it's good.

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[Chad Johnson]

It's. It's. It's Asian. Asian fair. They got skewed. Yeah, I. I used to go there all the time. Me and my. Me and my girl. She works in NFL. Tracy Perlman, man, we used to be all over. We went to town. We go to Del Frisco's, Peter Luger, Sparks, Ben Benson King. You name a steakhouse, I'd have been to it.

[Liberty City]

Hey, hey, hey. That Peter Luger jumping, ain't it?

[Chad Johnson]

On Peter Luger like that.

[Liberty City]

I used to stay in Peter Luger, boy. Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Peter Luga night. The way they cook them steak.

[Liberty City]

Oh,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

y' all naming all this stuff.

[Chad Johnson]

Everything costs money.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I mean that like, it's about steakhouse.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I'm down for a good steakhouse, but you know what? I've opened my palate. I've broadened my horizon.

[Liberty City]

What, you enhanced your taste buds? I did.

[Chad Johnson]

McK. Got me. But I got to go back there, though, one more time before we. Before we. Before we go somewhere else. Joe, we got to go there one more time.

[Liberty City]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

CD Doing the dead glare. The Cowboys Stadium for the sun. Jerry is saying, hey, he might. He might consider tinning, because, you know, at certain times of the day, that sun comes in, and sometimes it gets into the eyes. Jerry said he. He could. Because if I'm not mistaken, I think they pulled a curtain when the World cup was there, Ocho. So it could be a situation where he could pull the curtain, or he said he. He might tent it.

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[Liberty City]

Hold on. The curtain. The curtain blocked the sun.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes, man.

[Liberty City]

Y' all know, I can't remember what year it was. It had to be like 2009 with an NBA All Star Game was played in Jerry's world. I can't remember what.

[Chad Johnson]

I can't remember when it was the sun got y'. All.

[Liberty City]

Nah, man. It was a hell of an experience, though, Uncle Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, it wasn't.

[Liberty City]

Oh, my God.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, they cut up, man.

[Liberty City]

Just a hell of a time, Ocho, you know, this one, the. The stadium had just. It probably hadn't been up no more than about a year or two. For real. You know what I mean?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Liberty City]

And to see that big. That big scoreboard that he had come, man, it was a nice little bit. It snowed. It snowed the whole entire All Star Weekend in Dallas that year.

[Chad Johnson]

You know what it was? That might have been. Hold on. That might have been 2011.

[Liberty City]

It may have been. It may have been.

[Chad Johnson]

Cause that's when they had the storm. Cause the Super Bowl. It snowed during the Super Bowl.

[Liberty City]

Yeah, it's sometimes snow hard the whole All Star weekend, bro.

[Chad Johnson]

Cause if I'm not mistaken, in the All Star All Star Weekend after the super bowl, right?

[Liberty City]

Yeah. Yeah. Cause in February.

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[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

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[Chad Johnson]

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[Chad Johnson]

Jim Hills. 5 May I get a prayer from Nightcap? Was playing basketball two months ago and destroyed my knee doing doing so finally got the MRI done. Tore my acl meniscus lcl. Any tips on high recovery? How to recover quick, bro. Ain't no recovery quick from that,

[Liberty City]

bruh.

[Chad Johnson]

You tore your acl, your meniscus. Just one of those alone is you're talking about six months. That's just alone.

[Liberty City]

Hell, how old is it? Because it could be you could be talking about longer than that.

[Nightcap Listener]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Jim Hill, bro. Damn Father God, one of our listeners need you now. You need you to put your hands on him, put your arms around him and let him know everything's going to be okay. It seems dark right now that but sunshine follows rain. It's been dark but the light will shine again, bro. Just stay prayed up. Yeah bro.

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[Chad Johnson]

That's a bro. That's. That's. And you know what it is Ocho and Joe is that when a regular person has an injury like this, unless you got millions and millions of dollars, you get rehab twice a week.

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

When we get an injury like this. Here we go. Five days a week.

[Liberty City]

Yeah. Yep.

[Chad Johnson]

Sometimes twice a day. That's why they say but man high athletes. Yes, yes we are. You know, we trained our bodies and we have More muscle mass in the way we eat and the way we train. But the treatment that we receive is so different than the normal treatment that a normal civilian would get.

[Liberty City]

So a. So you better be paying attention when you go to rehab, all right? Pay attention to what they got you doing early and what you can do at home on your own. Because them little two days out the week, that ain't.

[Chad Johnson]

Man, they ain't doing nothing.

[Liberty City]

They ain't doing.

[Chad Johnson]

They ain't doing nothing. That's what got me. Hey, I paid attention to everything they do. I wrote it down. It's like, dang, you don't got so much stronger.

[Liberty City]

Oh, my goodness.

[Chad Johnson]

Because you got to realize, Joe, I had surgery. I had surgery that. I had surgery on a Saturday. That Thursday, they had me lunging.

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

And squatting.

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

On a repaired hip.

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

They don't play, but I went to YouTube and I saw some of the things they told me. They told me what to do. I Googled and said, what should I be doing? They say, do hip. You know, put one leg down and try to raise your leg up and do. I was doing all that stuff before I got there. I was sitting up, you know, trying to raise my leg. I was doing all this.

[Liberty City]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Muscles to backfire because, you know, obviously they had atrophied somewhat. But. Oh, yeah, my brother, I'm sorry. I don't like to be the bear. No. Bad news, Jim. But you got a long recovery ahead of you.

[Liberty City]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Johnson]

Do you think Aaron Hernandez could have been better than Gronk? I was watching edited, edited earlier on Tick Tock. That boy had some wiggle. He absolutely did. Gronk was. Man, Gronk was just so damn big and just so hard to get down once he got the ball in his hands. Good luck getting his big ass on the ground. But Aaron Hernandez, he could have been special. Aaron Hernandez, bruh. The way he could route you up, the way you could toss him the ball and put him in the backfield. Handing the ball, pitching the ball.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, what he could do with the ball in his hands, too.

[Chad Johnson]

Ocho. Ocho. This kid was special.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He was nice boy.

[Chad Johnson]

Antonio Daughtry. Can we give my little brother, Coach Pierre, assistant o life at Savannah State, a shout out them a success and wish them a successful season. Yo, big bro. Love you. Appreciate you. Yes, sir. Coach P. Congratulations, man. Hey, we need a good season at Savannah State, man.

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[Chad Johnson]

Don't disappoint us now. We expect big things. I'll be watching. I'll be watching. Little bro letting you know that he's really proud of what you've been able to do. So. And as an alum, I'm really proud. My son grease and sprains his ankle a lot. Any tips for strengthening his ankle, and what are some of the tips for recovery? He's a receiver and a cornerback. Sometimes I feel like it's the shoes.

[Liberty City]

Hey, you got to get them little bands. You gotta get that little band put around your foot and do them. And do them side ankle joints this way. Flex it this way. You got. You got to keep them ankles strong, bro. That's where your power and everything come from. Down. Yep.

[Chad Johnson]

Yep. Around the world. Yep.

[Liberty City]

Gotta do all that,

[Chad Johnson]

bro. I had ankle problems, man. My left ankle was so bad, man, I thought I was adding. I kept. Because what I did on Joe, I would pronate. You know, a lot of times people rolled their ankle. They roll over.

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

I roll mine in.

[Liberty City]

Oh, did you?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. And so that was before they started diagnosing as a high ankle sprain.

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

See, I was doing that way back then.

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[Chad Johnson]

Oh, you just gotta spray it. I was like, well, damn, why my thing hurts so bad?

[Liberty City]

It hurt, boy.

[Chad Johnson]

And then, you know, once. It's always once you get tackled. And every time people tackle me, they would tackle me, they would hip drop me.

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

So my ankle would get pinned down up under me. But like Joe said, you gotta. You gotta. What the hell you got?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Peanut butter and jelly.

[Chad Johnson]

Cheap ass light bread.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Now, you see, you see them Dixie plate? You know, I don't use.

[Chad Johnson]

No, I got the same place. I don't eat no dishes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. I ain't paying.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, you might be right. It might be. It might be the shoes. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I see these guys out there wearing no tape on the ankle. I don't know how they do that. I wish them the best of luck.

[Liberty City]

Come on, man.

[Chad Johnson]

Best of luck. I see Devonte and. And. And. And. And Tyreek out there with no tape on it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No. No socks. No socks.

[Liberty City]

They got.

[Chad Johnson]

They have on footies, Ocho.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, boy. See how they do it, boy, I got to have on socks. I need something covering my ankle.

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Devin Wadsworth, 22. Why do analysts have the Panthers finishing last after making the playoffs and nearly beating the Rams? What am I missing?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They don't know none that. Listen, the analysts, making an estimated guess,

[Chad Johnson]

just like everybody else, take it personally.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Before the season started, I was the one. Yeah, they still. They still gotta play.

[Chad Johnson]

Drew Love, y' all fellas keep bringing these smiles and laughs.

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[Chad Johnson]

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[Chad Johnson]

Apple bodies. 925. Ain't nothing good to eat in New York. Except Tim's. Except Tim's and puffer jackets.

[Liberty City]

Damn. New York has some good food now.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, just getting to it and not getting your head taken off is something entirely different, though.

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[Liberty City]

Hello.

[Chad Johnson]

All right, so I need you to rank the top three cities you play for the baddest women. Damn. Boston, Phoenix, Atlanta, New York, Miami, Houston. Nightcap crew. Permission to travel will be denied for these cities. You're welcome. I already know I got my line. Go ahead, Joe. What you got? Joe, what you got? What you got?

[Liberty City]

I'm going. I'm going Miami first.

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[Liberty City]

I ain't gonna lie to you. Okay. I'm going Miami 1. I'm going Atlanta 2. This is my top three.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah,

[Liberty City]

I mean, I was in Houston for like a. A split second, but I guess. I guess we'll count that one too. And the honorable mention. I count Houston is three. But honorable mentions, obviously, it's Boston, Phoenix. Them two cities, I think are very, very underrated. Uncle. Oo. Boston and Phoenix.

[Chad Johnson]

You go up a little higher in Boston. I mean, a little. Little north of Boston.

[Liberty City]

Yeah,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm picking. I'm picking up what you're putting.

[Liberty City]

Now we talking. Okay.

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[Liberty City]

That's all I'm going say. Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

You like caramel and wavy hair. If that's what you. If that's what your teeth. That's what your taste is. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know. You know, this. It's a nice community.

[Chad Johnson]

That Cape Verde up there, I think it's like Brockton or something.

[Liberty City]

Ocho. Ocho. Yeah. All you gotta do is go to damn hoes food or CVS some damn. Well, okay. You ain't got to go far. Yes, sir.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. Yes, sir.

[Liberty City]

Yes. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Damn. About to go on up there.

[Liberty City]

You got something to say? You good.

[Chad Johnson]

I ain't got nothing to say. Y' all know I ain't got nothing to say. I'm just old po Hustler. Just try to survive in this cruel, harsh world. I ain't got nothing, you know? Hey, like my old uncle used to say, I can't kill no won't nothing die. I ain't got. I ain't got that Bible watching, you know, Sit me talking about. Don't. Don't be playing with me. Yeah, that was boy back in the day. I sure wish, man. Yeah, it's something about. Hey, you beat one. You beat one in Target. I don't Know what it is about Target. But you be one at Target, you got your boy. Look at him.

[Liberty City]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Target. If you mean one in Target, Hoes, Food or public, something like that. Oh, Joe, I'm just saying. Chat, chat. Now. It's been a while, okay? I, I, I, I. I ain't been.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm trying. Hey, Joe, I ain't trying to.

[Liberty City]

I ain't been on. No, I ain't been on the scene like that. But when I was. All you had to do is go to Target. Hoes, Food or Publix. I'm talking about in Miami.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm talking about in Florida.

[Discord Caller]

Oh,

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

And they be out there like that, Joe.

[Chad Johnson]

They go to Whole Foods, Ocho. They go to Whole Food, they come straight out to jail.

[Liberty City]

Oh, man, they got a little.

[Chad Johnson]

They got a little jacket on.

[Liberty City]

Come on, come on. Talk slow so they know. Yeah, talk slow so they know, huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

[Liberty City]

I mean, here he go acting like him.

[Chad Johnson]

Sometimes they got a one onesie on and some of them time they got.

[Liberty City]

Yeah, yeah, there you go. There you go.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Two piece.

[Liberty City]

Hey, you got eyes, don't you?

[Discord Caller]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

It's something about that onesie, though. It's something about that onesy. It's something about it,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Man.

[Chad Johnson]

I saw one the other day.

[Liberty City]

Huh?

[Chad Johnson]

Bark, body harder than a 25 cent jawbreaker. What? I ain't lying. Lie to you, boy.

[Liberty City]

Huh?

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[Chad Johnson]

Thank you. Hey, hey, hey, hey.

[Liberty City]

Think of the liquor store pickle.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, the last one that just be floating, you know? The last one, it'll be focus. Sometimes, you know? Sometimes, yo, they too many in there and they can't get to the top.

[Liberty City]

That last one.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah,

[Liberty City]

yeah. I know exactly what you mean,

[Chad Johnson]

Man. Good God almighty. That why I go. Hey, I go. Saturday morning, I go. When I go to Whole Foods, I try to go first thing Saturday morning, soon as they open. Hey, I'll be waiting at the door. Waiting for the door to open.

[Liberty City]

Hey, you don't want no problem.

[Chad Johnson]

Juice. Get my orange juice. Get the dog.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Ain't no.

[Chad Johnson]

Ain't nobody there, Man. Don't be going to. Hey, you best probably going there. 9, 10, 30, 11, 12 o'. Clock. You looking for trouble?

[Liberty City]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Want to thank you guys for joining us again. As always, it's been a pleasure. Thank you. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle, my partner and co host, Liberty City's own bingo Ring of Fame honoree, the Dade county native. Hey. The six time Pro Bowler, three time All Pro. That is Chad Ocho, Cinco Johnson and the third member of the big three, a Little Rock, Arkansas native. Little Rock, Arkansas, University of Arkansas alum, the smooth shooting two guard, seven time NBA All Star, Mr. Clutch himself. That is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys. Thank you for your support. Thank you for your eyes, thank you for your ears and your word of mouth. You may Nightcap what it's become. We could not have done any of this without you. You are the reason we steal every eight we chart Very good. Every single week. That's all because of you. And thanks to you, we're gonna keep stacking. We're not done yet. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by La portier head to laportiercognac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable. In a state or city near you is a premium VSOP cognac. The best tasting, smoothest VSOP cognac on the market. But don't take my word for it.

[Liberty City]

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[Liberty City]

I'm unk.

[Chad Johnson]

He's oo. He's ISO. See you tomorrow.

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

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[Liberty City]

Nice.

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