Nightcap Hour 2: Stephon Marbury WALKS ON Knicks COURT + Timberwolves FEAR Ant Man REQUESTING TRADE + Thunder EXPECTED to TRADE into Top 10 + Dennis Schroder’s SIGNATURE Candy + Eagles’ Noland Smith ARRESTED + Marshall Faulk on BLACK COACHES Finding JOBS

Summary

Nightcap Podcast – Hour 2 (May 21, 2026): In-Depth Episode Summary

Main Theme & Purpose

This episode of Nightcap, hosted by Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”) and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, with Joe Johnson (ISO Joe), covers a whirlwind of current sports headlines, with deep dives into NBA playoff drama, major player movements and trade rumors, NFL legal headlines, and candid conversations about race and opportunity in football coaching. The trio blend first-person athlete experiences with sharp, unfiltered banter and insightful analysis.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Stephon Marbury Walks onto Knicks Court

• Segment Start: [03:37]
• Incident: After Jalen Brunson’s clutch basket, Knicks legend Stephon Marbury spontaneously walked onto the court to celebrate.
  • Shared Marbury’s playful apology to fans and Brunson.
  • Hosts reminisce about the emotional draw of Madison Square Garden and the shared joy among Knicks alumni.
• Quote: Joe Johnson: “The dude from Coney Island... to see the team you grew up rooting for, that you played for, and to be able to... man, hell yeah, we can excuse that.” [05:02]
• Memorable Moment: Ochocinco recalls playing at Rucker Park with Carmelo Anthony and being overwhelmed by the playground legends. [06:21]

2. Timberwolves Fear Anthony Edwards Trade Request

• Segment Start: [08:59]
• Rumor: Minnesota’s front office is reportedly worried star Anthony Edwards may eventually request a trade if he lacks a superstar running mate.
  • Discussion of possible conference realignment (Timberwolves hoping to join East if expansion happens).
  • Minnesota’s reported interest in acquiring Giannis Antetokounmpo, with speculation about feasible trade packages.
• Quote: Joe Johnson: “The fear is... at some point does Ant, through his representation... signal a desire to be elsewhere. We are nowhere near that point, but the fear is there.” [09:04]
• Debate: Whether they'd have to include Jaden McDaniels, Rudy Gobert, or Julius Randle in a trade package; uncertainty about available draft capital (given previous Gobert trade) [13:41].
• Ochocinco’s Scoop: Giannis is supposedly house-hunting in Miami — “Giannis is damn near in the bag... they house shopping and all that.” [15:20]

3. Thunder Expected to Trade Up in Draft

• Segment Start: [21:52]
• News: Oklahoma City Thunder rumored to be packaging picks 12, 17, 37 to move into the top-10 of the NBA draft, given only one open roster spot.
  • Mock draft names tossed around: Debonza, Peterson, Cam Boozer, LeBron Yexil.
  • Hosts reflect on Thunder’s player development success and the legacy of past big trades with the Clippers (Paul George/SGA deal).
• Quote: Uncle Ocho: “It just seems like whoever the Thunder draft here, they come fit right in seamlessly.” [23:07]
• Fun Moment: Joe Johnson: “Thank you, Paul George. Thank you, Clippers! Couldn’t have done it without you.” [23:49]

4. Dennis Schroder’s Signature Candy

• Segment Start: [41:32]
• Hosts riff on the idea of athletes with signature candies, inventing satirical candy bar names:
  • Chad: “The Ocho Bar” and “One Eye Ochos” [43:18]
  • Uncle Ocho: “Cheeky Chews” [42:56]

5. Eagles’ Nolan Smith Arrested for Reckless Driving

• Segment Start: [45:09]
• Incident: Nolan Smith (Philadelphia Eagles) arrested for going 137 mph in a 70 zone in rural Georgia.
  • Discussion: Prevalence of speeding arrests for Georgia Bulldogs alumni, the perils of fast cars, and personal stories about fast driving.
• Quote: Joe Johnson: “What is it about 137? Well, he might lose his license with that one.” [45:24]
• Ochocinco’s Take: “Out of all the foreign cars I had...I ain't got no speeding tickets—because I pick and choose when to push the envelope.” [48:43]

6. Marshall Faulk on Black Coaches Finding Jobs

• Segment Start: [50:18]
• Stat: Of 136 major college football teams, only 13 have a Black head coach (down from 17 in 2011). Only one Black coach in Power Five conference.
• Faulk’s Rant: Names multiple white coaches/execs (Matt Ryan, JJ Redick) hired with no experience, contrasting with impossible odds/hoops for Black coaches.
  • “Football is the only sport where the players struggle to come off the field and become coaches that look like us...” [50:23]
  • Sharpe and Ochocinco deeply agree, extending the example to the NFL, NBA (Steve Nash’s Brooklyn hire), and the performative nature of the Rooney Rule.
• Quote: “You know Marvin [Lewis] wasn’t getting no damn job... they bring Black guys in just to say [they did].” — Joe Johnson [55:34]

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Other Notable Segments

Oklahoma City vs. San Antonio Playoff Analysis

• In-depth on defensive matchups (Wembanyama, Chet Holmgren, Hartenstein), officiating, foul trouble, and strategy for guarding unicorn bigs.
• “If any team, the Spurs or OKC, bigs get in trouble... it just takes so much of your aggressiveness away.” — Uncle Ocho [69:06]

Q&A and Banter Highlights

• Birthday shoutouts to listeners’ families and fans [64:47, 73:06].
• Outrageous outfit talk: cowboy boots, leopard pants, fashion flexing [30:22, 34:24], with Ochocinco flaunting $8500 boots (“You can still smell the snake on here!” [32:16]).
• Ochocinco’s legendary whistling (or lack thereof) teased by Joe and Ocho [86:17].
• “Pegging” jokes and open talk about bedroom exploration (with sender claiming he followed Ochocinco’s advice!) [80:00].
• Audience mailbag: debating who to build a franchise around (SGA or Wemby—unanimously Wemby) [81:17], and who wins historic player matchups (Bosh vs. Lamar Odom; Michael Redd vs. Tayshaun Prince) [74:01].
• Lighthearted nostalgia for buffet chains (Golden Corral, Piccadilly, Bonanza) [77:31].

Memorable Quotes

• “Cursing is just a sentence enhancer. That’s merely—that’s all it is. If you cook food, right, you add seasoning. That’s what cursing is!” – Ochocinco [70:58]
• “We've seen a few SGAs throughout NBA history, but we ain't never seen no damn Wimby.” – Ochocinco [81:27]
• “It's performative. All performative.” (on NFL diversity initiatives) — Chad Ochocinco [55:53]

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Timestamps for Critical Topics

| Topic | Timestamps | |------------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------| | Stephon Marbury/Knicks court incident | 03:37–08:59 | | Timberwolves/Ant Edwards trade fear, Giannis trade rumors | 08:59–16:34 | | Thunder trades/draft and SGA reflection | 21:52–25:56 | | Dennis Schroder candy & athlete branding fun | 41:32–44:36 | | Eagles’ Nolan Smith reckless driving; “need for speed” | 45:09–49:48 | | Marshall Faulk & Black coaching obstacles | 50:18–57:37 | | Playoff analysis: Spurs vs. Thunder | 65:19–70:10 | | Hartenstein’s physicality & officiating discussion | 72:33–73:49 | | Who would you build around: SGA or Wemby? | 81:17–82:01 | | Player comparisons: Bosh vs Odom, Redd vs Prince | 74:01–76:49 |

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Overall Tone & Style

• Unfiltered, playful, passionate: The core trio curse, joke, and roast each other with ease, switching between serious insights and deadpan goofing, always grounded in authentic ex-athlete perspectives.
• Camaraderie and listener engagement: Birthday shoutouts, Q&A, inside jokes, and direct calls to audience participation.

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Useful For New Listeners

This episode is a classic Nightcap blend: lighthearted swagger, real talk about the player experience and the business of pro sports, and hard truths on equity in coaching. You hear who these guys are—on and off the field/court—while getting sharp, timely analysis and industry scoops you won’t find on “linear television.”

Transcript

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[Uncle Ocho]

Man, you know what? I seen this during the game, but hell, I'm be honest with you. I ain't know it was stiff. I seen him come on the floor, but I ain't gonna lie, I probably would have lost it too a little bit to come back. Them boys made something like that.

[Joe Johnson]

You sit down there, Joe. You going, what?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Joe. Hey. Hey, Joe. He came on the floor. Hey, they didn't show that on the TV copy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I seen him come out there, but I didn't know that was him.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But the game was over at that point, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

No, that was what you call him. That was. That was the. The tie of the game, wasn't it, Joe?

[Chad Ochocinco]

That far on the court.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, they came. They when they made that run and came back.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, he was Hype boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Absolutely. He was.

[Uncle Ocho]

He got outside his body a little bit. It's okay. Still. Hey, we know it happened from time to time, playboy.

[Joe Johnson]

Because he a native. I mean, the dude from Coney island, he grew up in New York. He's been a Knicks fan.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on, man.

[Joe Johnson]

And, and to see the team that you. That you grew up rooting for, that you played for, and to be able to. Man, hell yeah, we can.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, we can excuse that with him.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. I mean, think about it, bro. I mean, that's like the Mecca hoops, for real. You know what I mean? That's. That's why I ain't gonna lie. When I be watching the Knicks play, I enjoy seeing a lot of the former guys there.

[Joe Johnson]

A lot do have them back. Oh, man, you see all. You see all the old guys back, man, that's.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's. That's. That's a beauty, bro. That's. That's enjoyable to watch. Because you gotta understand, bro, just cause these guys aren't playing don't mean that they don't still love and enjoy watching the game.

[Joe Johnson]

They do.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know, going into that, Going into that historic building. Come on, bro. And look, they know if the Knicks just so happen to make it to the finals. Oh, my God. Bring the National Guard, fellas. I'm talking about just. If they get there,

[Joe Johnson]

they be there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I told you that already.

[Uncle Ocho]

If, if.

[Joe Johnson]

If the Knicks win it. Well, the. The King of New York.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The.

[Joe Johnson]

That's Jalen Brunson, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What? You don't have to pay for nothing no more.

[Uncle Ocho]

Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Jaylen Brunson. Jalen Brunson gonna be up there. He gonna be up there with a. With Derek Jeter. Yeah, he gonna be up there with Derek Jeter.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Eli.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah, I just.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I just thought about something, boy. Jog, remember? You got me thinking back too. You talking about New York being the Mecca basketball. Until about that time I played. I played on Rucker park with. With Mellow.

[Joe Johnson]

Did you, Man, What'd you do?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Them boys out there doing all them damn tricks and. Man, yeah, yeah, it was too fast for me. I'm just Be honest. I'm gonna be honest. It was moving too fast.

[Uncle Ocho]

When was this?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, damn. What year that was? I gotta. I gotta ask. Hello.

[Joe Johnson]

May. It was May. Probably May. Like probably not. Probably like June, July.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm dead at. I'm dead at off season.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Joe. I ain't never seen that many people, man, on the park, boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

I know. They don't play. They don't Play by the hoops in the park. Yeah, they don't play about that in New York.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I mean, I like. I like to see when. When football teams, Joe, a lot of those guys. Ocho, you know, they. They bring the guys back, and the guys. The alumni. I think the Broncos have something every week, a lot of the weeks where the alumni come back. Yeah, the Ravens. I know the Ravens are big in that, because the Ravens just had a. It was the 25th anniversary. No, well, I think they just had something for the. Yeah, it was a 25th anniversary of the Super Bowl.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And they gave every Bron Bronco, every Raven player a letterman jacket name. Super Bowl 35. Oh, they, they, they, they. Yeah, they. They think they trying. I know you watching because you watch all the time. Wear my jacket, man. I know you got a lot going on. Yeah, you're gonna say, boy, don't you know I got other stuff going? Yes, I know you got other stuff going on. Can I get my jacket? That's all.

[Uncle Ocho]

Thank you. Listen, they've been doing. They've been doing a pretty good job here in Atlanta, bro, trying to keep us all together. These former guys. Yeah, I enjoy it, too. You know, we.

[Joe Johnson]

We get to.

[Uncle Ocho]

We do functions and different events together, even with the Hawks, with the players. So that's always dope. You know, I think the older we get, like I say, I still love and enjoy being around the game. I still love playing the game. I still love the training, the workout regimen, and just, you know, lending the ear to these young cats, bro, and helping them out, you know, in times of need, because a lot of them are being thrust into these different situations, and it's hard to handle, bro. But if you can take advice from somebody who's been there and done that and kind of ease a little bit of what you're going through, you know, I think it can help. I think it goes a long way. So I. I appreciate it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. So, yeah, we. We understand, Steph. They probably said, don't let that happen again. Minnesota Timberwolves ultimate fear is Anthony Edwards requesting a trade played Darren Wolfson. It's about satisfying Ant. The fear is that at some point does Ant, through his representation, Bill Duffy and others, signal a desire to be elsewhere. We are nowhere near that point, but the fear is there. The Timberwolves are also looking to move to the Eastern Conference. Damn. Yes, they want to be in the Eastern Conference, but that's still a few years out of even happens. So the next few years, how do they compete with the spurs and the Thunder, you need another superstar. They would love to acquire Giannis. Hey, look, I guess they're saying, like, when the Seattle come or the team in Vegas come, that'll be two teams. You know what I'm saying, Joe, that's the Western Conference. And so now just slide Minnesota to the Eastern Conference. I think that's. That's kind of the. The avenue and that's kind of what they're trying. That's what they're trying to do. But like they said, why would they

[Chad Ochocinco]

even be thinking about that anyway, huh? And Joe, why would he even thinking about him actually wanting to want to ask for a trade right now? You need to put that. Right now. You need.

[Uncle Ocho]

You have to take that. You have to take that into consideration.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ojo, don't worry about consideration right now. Consider building what he needs around him to be able to compete in the goddamn way. I mean, well, that's what.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's kind of what they saying. They saying that they got. They got to bring in another guy.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Who.

[Joe Johnson]

Who can.

[Uncle Ocho]

Who can take some of that. Who can take some of that load off of. Off young fella? Because you know how it is. Man 1 hey, you let a. You let a guy get to, you know, a year left in his contract. Two years left in his contract. Basketball different for football. Guys can force their way out.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Cause y. Y' all got F you money, Joe. It's a little different, man. Y' all control. Y' all controlling.

[Joe Johnson]

No, they got guaranteed money, too.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, it guaranteed me F you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So once I get guaranteed and see, that's what, you know, that's what, you know, the NFL is afraid of. Because money is power.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And the less you have of it, the less power you have. The more you have of it, the more power you have. We see who gets to pull the strings. X, Y and Z over here, over there, and so forth and so on. We see we don't got to get into it, but we can see.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And that's how it work. That's how it is. So it's going to be timber. Woods, president of basketball operation Tim Conley finally broke his silence on Julius Randle backlash on what Minnesota plans to do this offseason. We know our competition is not going to sit still, and nor will we. If we mess up, we'll mess up loudly. We're going to try to be as aggressive as. As possible. Conley said that the loss to the spurs was because the team struggles as a whole. Not just Randalls we don't win because of one player, lose because of one player. I think we lost in the fashion we lost to San Antonio. They were clearly the better team, and we have to look at it collectively, me included, the whole building. What can we do? What can we all do better to ensure that we don't see the same results next season? Joe, you hear the previous paragraph, previous statement I made. They would love to get their hands on Giannis. Can they put a package together to satisfy Milwaukee with players? Currently it's Julius Randle. I don't know. Terry Shannon, I don't know. Maybe. Maybe you might have. You might have to give up a Jade McDaniels. Is there a package that. That they can put together to satisfy Milwaukee as far as players that can play right now and draft capital so we can build for the future also, but be competitive with the players that we get?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I think they got some great pieces to send to Milwaukee, but I do not want Jaden Daniels to be a part of that. You know, maybe you. Maybe you resign IO signing, trade. I mean, I would love for Minnesota to be able to keep him, but, hell, if we gonna go get Giannis, then you probably gonna have to give him up. You probably gonna have to give up Go Bear. You probably gonna have to give up two of them Bigs. Actually, I'm saying Go Bruh, Nazri or Julius Random. You probably gonna have to give up two of them.

[Chad Ochocinco]

If anything, it would be. So give him the choice Julius Random and Go Bear. Nas Reed ain't going nowhere.

[Joe Johnson]

He might have to. Because I don't believe they won't.

[Uncle Ocho]

Not.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't believe they won't. Rudy Gobert, Julius Randall.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right? But if you throw some picks in there, and maybe they Young boy Shannon.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, how many picks they got considering they gave up five first rounds to get a Rudy Gobert? So how many they got? What they gonna get it with? Joe, like the more people should say in the south, what we gonna get it with? Ass and mouth.

[Uncle Ocho]

Listen, this is why I say. That's why I say they gonna have to probably do a sign and trade with the young fella, IO the Samu, you know, because he showed. He showed, you know, a lot of great promise throughout this postseason. Now, if I'm Minnesota, I would like to keep him around, but I think he gonna demand so much money that you're gonna have to get rid of him. And if you can get rid of him and go get Giannis, package up a deal to where you give up maybe him, Shannon and like I said, you probably gonna have to give up. Go barrel, Randall. If not both. Because if I'm Minnesota, I know you want him bad like that. I'm trying to squeeze in and everything up out of here.

[Joe Johnson]

You mean Milwaukee.

[Uncle Ocho]

Milwaukee.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, I agree. And that's the thing. Because first of all, Giannis holds all the cards.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know why? Because he's going into the last year of his deal.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yep.

[Joe Johnson]

And I'm not trading for him unless he's willing to sign a long term deal. Because I'd be damn if I'm gonna give up what I'm gonna give up and I only got it for a year.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So he's going to say, you try to trade him somewhere he don't want to go, he's just going to tell the team, I ain't sign no long term deal.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know what's funny is I, I mean, I mean no disrespect and I didn't really say anything because of dialogue and I love the context in which we're talking about and, and him being able to come to, you know, Minnesota, be able to help goddamn young boy Anthony Edwards. But as I've told y', all, I think during the season, early in the season that Giannis was already searching for a house down here in Miami. I just didn't want to mess up the conversation. So he will be down here in Miami and when it does happen, I told you know, at my sources, I'm, you know, you know, just so hold on.

[Uncle Ocho]

So Miami getting him and Ja.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm not sure about John, I'm not sure about Josh situation, but Giannis is damn near and isn't is in the bag because like the realtor who's looking for the house. You know what, I don't want to spill too much, too much beans, but you know, they, they house shopping and, and all that. So, you know, hey, hey, Joe, you got to think about it. No, I know I play around a lot, but ain't too many times I've been wrong when it comes to predicting and telling y' all where people are going because of the conversation I had behind closed doors.

[Uncle Ocho]

What you had, what, what, what prediction you made that was right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

A lot, A lot of them.

[Uncle Ocho]

Name one.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I can't even name off the top of my head. I'm sure.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I can recall on some of the stuff that I've said was going to happen, especially like you losing every playoff series. To me, that's just, that's just, that's.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on bro, I'm just saying that's

[Chad Ochocinco]

a small sample size Joe, as opposed

[Uncle Ocho]

to other I had I I hadn't lost this this you said you acting like I already lost this OKC and spur like this is this is going to be a pretty good series. I knew what it's going to be

[Chad Ochocinco]

one beautiful heavyweight round fight. It's going to be a good seven rounds Joe. But I'm telling you who going to stand victorious and hold their hands up like goddamn Ali huh? I'm telling you it was going to be okay. But again you don't really have the kind of ball knowledge I do when it comes to basketball so I understand.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh get your man's bro, get your mans.

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[Joe Johnson]

Check this out, guys. The reports are the Thunder are. Are expected to try and trade their picks 12, 17 and 37 to try to move into the top 10. OKC only has one roster spot available and wouldn't be able to offer all three draft. Wouldn't be able to draft all three players. Oh, Joe, I don't know if you can see it, but right now the mock drafts have debonza at one.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, Peterson. I see it, Cam.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. Cam Boozer, Kayla Wilson, Keaton Wagler, Kingston Fleming, Darius Acuff Jr. Brandon Burries, Mikhail Brown and Nate Amit. And you see the. The Dominican, uh, LeBron Yexil, Lindenberg.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. So hold on. You saying they gonna trade they.

[Joe Johnson]

They picks that they have because they can. They only got one roster spot, so they couldn't draft them all if they wanted to.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh. So they. They got to get up off them, got to and to move up to go get what though? What you. I mean, you ain't gonna move.

[Joe Johnson]

You can.

[Uncle Ocho]

They ain't gonna be able to move into the top five.

[Joe Johnson]

They want to move into the top

[Uncle Ocho]

ten, they'll move into the top ten.

[Joe Johnson]

Cause they got 12, 17 and 37, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn. Yeah, it don't matter. It just seemed like whoever the Thunder draft here they. They come fit right in seamlessly. I mean, you playing with some great professionals who you'll be able to learn from. You look at all these guys outside of the Lindenberg cat who's 23. Hell, these dude youngest, I don't know what, 19, 18. Yeah, he got some guys. They got some guys gonna be around for a while and you want to be able to learn, you know, and gain experience from guys who's been there before. Yeah, well, we'll see they moving to the top 10. Okay. See cheating over there.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, they said thank you, Paul George. Thank you. Clippers. Couldn't have done it without you. I mean, Joe, that's it. That's what happened.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You gave. Not only did you give them Shay, you gave them four first four unprotected draft picks. And it would.

[Uncle Ocho]

It really wouldn't be much of a problem if Paul George went to the Clippers and him and Kawhi end up winning one.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Just one, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Now you know it all worth it.

[Uncle Ocho]

It had been all Worth it. But the fact that they never got close, I think this is why, you know, you see and hear much of the drawback. Like basically people saying it wasn't worth it. But at the time, Shea was not who he is today, fellas.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No.

[Uncle Ocho]

And you never know what it's like from a player who gets traded early in their career and how it changes their whole mindset. I've been there, bro. I got traded. My rookie, six months in, made the All Star rookie game and everything. Uncle Ocho, they traded me right after All Star break. And that's because you created a little value for yourself. But you don't really know. You just hooping, playing, having a good time, you know, enjoying the American dream from when you was a kid, bro. Just even be in the league was like, damn, I can't even believe I still had to pinch myself from time to time. You know what I mean? But to get traded early in your career, it does something to you, bro. It make you lock in a little more. Because for me, the last thing. Yeah, the last thing I ever wanted to be in the NBA was a journeyman. I ain't want to be one of those guys. Played 12 years, played for eight different teams. Hell no. You know what I mean? Like, so to be able to get somewhere and stick, like you can tell, Shay took all that personal, bro. Look, hell, he didn't got two MVPs, won the title. I mean, he's. He's super succeeding expectations at this point.

[Joe Johnson]

He said, I wanted to be. I wanted to make sure the Thunder won the trade. They did.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah. No question they did. No question they got a title out of the Hill. Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

And I don't think anybody. If you talk about a trade, it's not Kareem, because clearly the Lakers won that trade. Yeah, the Lakers won that trade.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You talk about three MVPs and five titles. The Lakers won that. But I don't know what they gave up unless they gave up the Hollywood side and part of Beverly Hills. Y' all lost. And guess what? Milwaukee about to get screwed again. Think about it. Your two best players, your two best player. Say you know what? Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Well, if I'm Milwaukee, I got to do whatever I can to retain some great valuable pieces because ain't nobody coming sign here in the off season.

[Joe Johnson]

No, you gonna have to. You gotta be. It's like San Antonio now. San Antonio. I will give San Antonio credit because what did they do? They did get lamarcus Aldrich to come.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Who was the biggest region at the time.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. I think he from Texas, though.

[Joe Johnson]

So when you look at it from that standpoint. But as far as, like, man, ain't nobody going to San Antonio. That's why they got a draft of Duncan and Amanu and a Parker and a Kawhi and a Wimby and a Castle and a Harper. You gotta hit. Cause you're not gonna get nobody. You don't have that luxury. Like the Lakers.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They've been hitting, too.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey. But hell, I tell you what. They ain't gonna have no problem getting no damn talent in San Antonio now. Everybody won't play with Wimy Hill. What?

[Joe Johnson]

You're right there. Still no San Antonio, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

I know, I know, but.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

No state tax.

[Joe Johnson]

It ain't Houston.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, but you still. Hey, hey, you get you a good bang for your buck?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Your house, huh? Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. I mean, I could go to Houston in the off season. But you know, I'm just saying, right? I'm just saying I can't go to Houston.

[Joe Johnson]

Always bringing up Houston, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Cal, I understand why y' all so scared of Houston, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You've been there. You know why?

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't scared. I'm petrified.

[Uncle Ocho]

Man. I love Houston, bro. I think you do.

[Joe Johnson]

I love. I love Houston, too.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm thinking. I'm thinking we are gonna go down there, hang out. Me? You are what? The folks looking. They want to see y', all, man.

[Joe Johnson]

I know they do, man. Man, me and don't you have such a great. Man, the people. You don't know how many people to.

[Uncle Ocho]

Man, when y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All. When y'.

[Uncle Ocho]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

When. Nightcap on the road. When y' all come back to Houston.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I like my boy. Duh. Never.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey,

[Chad Ochocinco]

but Houston ain't for the week, bro. You hear me?

[Uncle Ocho]

That's what I'm saying. Hey, look, man, y' all have been around enough. Y' all have been around the block. Y' all haven't seen a little bit of everything. Look, it don't. It don't hurt you to look at the menu. You ain't got to order nothing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I ain't gonna order nothing. But just the fact, if you can keep yourself from having a look at the menu, you'll be better off.

[Joe Johnson]

What? Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

I mean, you still human. You still a man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. And that's the problem. Yeah, that's the problem. So what do I do? You keep yourself. You keep yourself out of those environments so you don't have no issues.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Hey, but. Hey, Joe, we can go to Area 29, if you want to. You know how I do security up there in Houston?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to see. But you are saying when I go

[Chad Ochocinco]

to, when I'm in Houston, I do security at Area 29. That's like one of my jobs.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I remember you was on. You did nightcap from up there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, I got a little part time job there.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, just can't know anybody. Just know anybody going in film, Joe. Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm part of the staff.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

we got, it's got to be, it's got to be in and out, though. Land at 5 o', clock, we down, boom, we back up first thing in the morning.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't they talk about no Friday? No Friday, no Sunday. That is an absolute.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, you can't leave. You can't. I forgot how to say and go. But you can't leave Houston on Sunday. You can leave any day, but you can't leave on Sunday.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, because all the brunch and everything. You right, you're right.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on, man. Come on, man.

[Joe Johnson]

You talking about for, you talking about for Friday to Monday?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, that'd be, that'd be nice.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Come on, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Joe, I got some boots, too, boy. I got some boots and some.

[Uncle Ocho]

I got some too, bro. I got some, I got some. I got some brown. I got these brown cowboy boots. I've been. Pull them out.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I got, I got a pair. I got a pair of white, white snakeskin. I'm, I'm ready to wear, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm ready.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm ready. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, I got them.

[Uncle Ocho]

You got booze, too.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got booze.

[Uncle Ocho]

I got a horn.

[Joe Johnson]

I got, I got a pair of black horn toe gators, and I got a pair of black horn back gators.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on, man, what we waiting on?

[Joe Johnson]

I got a black pair and I got a Kanye.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I can show y' all my boots or. Nah. Let me say. Hey, hey, Joe. Watch my boots, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Let me see what you got going. Look, look. Get my damn hopes up high. And you and uncle ain't talking about not. I already know, though, Houston. Hey, I told you know, I played for the Rockets for like three months. Well, I, I, I know.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I know.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, he had a funky good time out there. You hear me? Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. When I'm talking about. You talking about some guys who parted hard. That James Harden and that PJ Tucker. Oh, Tuck, you don't want to hang with them. You don't want to hang with them, boy. Then it's got to be certain. Limits to certain, you know what I mean? Oh, them nice.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He called me 8500.

[Martha (Kohler Ambassador)]

What?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, see, I. I wear them yet. I'm brand new.

[Joe Johnson]

Did you. You got. You got. You need, you got. You feel anything hit you in the back of the head. That was the change.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you like these?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I like snake. I don't have any snake.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You gotta get you some of these, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

I just got. I got gator. I mean, I thought about getting some boa.

[Uncle Ocho]

A pipe.

[Joe Johnson]

Those might. That might be.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Hey, I can still smell a snake on here, too, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah. You can't.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you.

[Uncle Ocho]

You can't wait to bust.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Put some blue jeans on with it without, you know, tuck my shirt in with my big belt buckle. Then I'm gonna have my handkerchief hanging in the back. Joe. Hey, Joe. Hey, boy. Hey, hey, I'm ready to line dance joke. You're not lying there.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah. You got.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. Hey, hey, hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Hey, look, I'm looking for a good time, fellas. Man, I don't know what's wrong with you.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe. Joe, we can have a good time in the A. Joe, we can do

[Chad Ochocinco]

that line dancing with no cowboy boots in Atlanta.

[Joe Johnson]

Anybody trying to land those damn lion dance. Man, me and Joe having a good time. I'll be. Hey, Joe. I'll be. I'll be in there about two weeks. Joe. We go. Hey, we go do something, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

All right. Bet. Say less. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Ocho, how you doing?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Where y' all going?

[Joe Johnson]

Ain't no telly. Make a couple.

[Uncle Ocho]

Stop.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, if.

[Chad Ochocinco]

If between June and July, I ain't gonna be able to go nowhere because I'm gonna be at the World Cup.

[Uncle Ocho]

Are you ready to go then, boy?

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, I'm.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, boy, I'm going to hit every city possible. I don't care how much flights are. I got tickets every game, too.

[Uncle Ocho]

You ain't playing. So what are y' all playing? What. What? All cities playing. I know it's one here in Atlanta.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Miami, Atlanta, Houston, New York, New Jersey, Canada, Mexico City, Kansas City, Louisiana. It's 11 whole cities and, boy, but my sky miles gonna be crazy. I'm kind of mad spirit ain't working. But I mean, I'm frontier gonna have to do.

[Joe Johnson]

Hopefully they can transfer your miles. No, but I got. I got. Joe, you got some cowboy boots?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Let me put my boots on. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe. Hey, what you Think about my leopard pants and my boots.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, you got. You gotta throw them damn leopards out. Listen. Yeah, nah, throw the lepers out, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

It's over with, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, I got you a pair.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, you need to break those boots in before you wear them because they're gonna tell your damn feet.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm recommend with that swing. Huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, oh, here you go.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, you're gonna be slip sliding all over the place. You gotta go scratch him up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, hey, wait. What kind of jeans you wear with your boots, Joe? Levi's. Aria. Is it Aria, how you say it? What's the.

[Joe Johnson]

I just got me some. I just got some Hudson.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

But I do have Levi.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I got some Levi with my. I got him creased up real heavy though.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, with these dark dinner, I might.

[Joe Johnson]

What's a red monkey with Red monkey.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's about back in the day. Red monkey. You still got some of that?

[Joe Johnson]

I still got. I still got my.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I bet you ain't got no Evisu.

[Joe Johnson]

I do got it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I remember that, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

That.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Back in the day, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Red monkey and true religion.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah. I ain't seen no truth.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Miami.

[Uncle Ocho]

They coming back hard, Joe, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. True religion coming back hard. Yes, absolutely. Yes, yes, absolutely.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I've been out the loop, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Yep.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I got me a couple. I got a couple hard denims, you know, I mean.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, don't be right.

[Joe Johnson]

I got me. I got me an lv. I got me an LV jean suit that I could bust out.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, that one.

[Joe Johnson]

That I wore it again. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You can't wear that with no cowboy boots, though.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, you can.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, it ain't got the cut. Ain't even right for no cowboy boots.

[Joe Johnson]

You could. Ocho. You could wear. Hey, I got some. I got some Gucci boots.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, he ready.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. See you. You miss. You miss the fashion, Joe. I'm trying to look like a black cowboy.

[Joe Johnson]

I look like a black something.

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Martha (Kohler Ambassador)]

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[Joe Johnson]

It won't do Dennis Schroeder have a signature candy in Germany?

[Uncle Ocho]

A signature candy.

[Joe Johnson]

If you had your own candy, what would it be called?

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's a good one. That's a good question. I had a signature candy.

[Joe Johnson]

Mine gonna be called Jawbreaker.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's already a jawbreaker. You got to come up with something else.

[Chad Ochocinco]

If I had a candy.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, what about the candy?

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's a good question. I mean whatever my candy is, the name would have to. Would have to fit my personality.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Milk dude already gone.

[Uncle Ocho]

Gone out of there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, raising that is already gone too.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[Chad Ochocinco]

Trying to think.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn, we get Hershey Kiss is gone. Man, they don't took all the damn good names.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, what would it be?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, well, hell, you gotta call it something. What you gonna call it? OO Candy. It's gonna be something chocolate.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The Ocho Bar

[Uncle Ocho]

O Bar probably have something like the some cheeky Chews.

[Joe Johnson]

Cheeky Chews.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And. And the name got to be catchy too. So it got to be something catchy that makes sense. Oh, One Eye Ochos.

[Uncle Ocho]

One Eye Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, you had some of the One Eye Ochos yet? Yeah, them thing good.

[Joe Johnson]

Get it be now. You know what, guys? I. I got a couple of names, but I'm gonna go only sit this one out.

[Uncle Ocho]

Why is it. Give a one, Give a one, give a one.

[Joe Johnson]

Give away, give away. What are you doing, man?

[Uncle Ocho]

Trying boots on here. He trying to see how they look with that. With that level. Come on, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Lord have mercy.

[Uncle Ocho]

The leopard. The lever throwing me off.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yo, this is Cheetah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Learn your prince, Cheetah. It's. It's too busy. It's too busy with them booze, bro. They throwing me out.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, that's. That's what my baby says. You say I'd be too busy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You have a jean shirt. You can have a jean shirt on with your jeans. So you could be like a real cowboy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Hey, my belt buckle and all, you know, I got a diamond belt buckle. Yeah, I'm gonna be clean now. Let me know where we going.

[Joe Johnson]

So you got one of the more big hook.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It ain't that big now. It ain't that big because I don't. I don't want to take away from the outfit. You don't want your belt buckle too big? Because it's all about pieces and make my statement pieces. My boots and my belt buckle.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you gotta have a belt, but you gotta have that big belt buckle.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Not that big. I don't want. I don't want to overdo it, man. Cause I'm not a big person.

[Joe Johnson]

And them cowboys are smaller than you. You remember how small John was?

[Chad Ochocinco]

They are. They are. They are.

[Joe Johnson]

That dude, he 135 pounds. 140 tops.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know one thing. I can't wait to ride this goddamn bull.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, well, let me know.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm gonna pray for you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Joe, you got to pray for me. You might want to pray for the bull.

[Joe Johnson]

All right. Eagle Star pass rusher Nolan Smith was arrested for allegedly speeding and reckless driving. Port Georgia Gazette Smith was booked in Twigs County Jail after reportedly going 137 in a 70. Damn. Wait, what is it about 137? Well, he might lose his license with that one.

[Uncle Ocho]

That might.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He got arrested because at that point, it's reckless driving, endangering everyone else on the road.

[Joe Johnson]

Anything over 100 miles an hour or 30 miles an hour on speed limit is considered.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey. What year. What year is this for young. Young boy?

[Joe Johnson]

What, his third? Third, fourth.

[Uncle Ocho]

What's up man, what's up with these guys with this need for speed?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, guess what college the Georgia Bulldogs player. Because it seems like every year there's two, three, four guys getting arrested for excessive speeding. And considering some of the things that have happened. What I mean, you would. 137. Like I said, these kids don't fear the.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, what you think he was driving, huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

Probably a scat pack. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

137. And you had to be in some.

[Joe Johnson]

When, you know, you and in Twigs County, Bro, that. That ain't no interstate Twigs County. That's country.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's probably why he thought he could do it. Damn, man.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't think people. I don't think people know how. How fast. 137 miles.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hold on. Especially if you're driving something where you can get the 137 and don't even realize how fast you got them going, too.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, bro. Hey, you going 137. You trying to go 100 and damn, 37.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But I'm saying, Joe, some of them cars so powerful, especially that young bulls be getting. But you get the 137, don't even realize you at 137 that you. Look at that damn dash.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it's only like 8,000 people. That's. It's in Central Georgia, man. I just. I don't know what it is about these Bulldogs players and this need for excessive speed, especially. It's like two, three, four guys every year gets arrested for excessive speeding, and you've had an incident where someone has even lost their lives, and it's still not enough to deter you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, you know, there's some Y ends out here, man. Ain't. Hey,

[Joe Johnson]

I got that today. Hey, it stopped me once I got them ticket. Somebody taking my license, like, nah, I need these.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, hey, it'll slow you down.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, it's funny, and I'm thinking about it, and I. I made the comment about getting the 137 and not knowing it. You know, based on the vehicles that I've owned, Joe, you know, Lamborghinis, Ferraris. Hell, that. That year, I think in whatever, 2010, 2011, at least the Bugatti for a year, Joe. You can get to 137. Don't even realize it, Joe. Especially depending on what you driving.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, wait, I don't want to drive it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nice, nice, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

You.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got to experience it one time, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm good.

[Uncle Ocho]

I ain't no real need for speed. I like. I like. Now, don't get me wrong. I like to be in something that can go fast. Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But you ain't.

[Uncle Ocho]

But I ain't never gonna. I ain't never gonna test it. You know, I might, you know, I might, you know, get up through the, you know, air now and then, but. Yeah, no, sir, I don't even.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Out of all of the foreign cars I had that. That where it's about speed. I ain't got no speeding tickets because I pick and choose when to push the envelope. It's not something I did all the time.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. I've never gotten a speeding ticket in something that, that was built for speed.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Same.

[Joe Johnson]

It's like it's, you know, Range Rover

[Uncle Ocho]

or

[Joe Johnson]

BMW or something.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And it's at 10:41 at night.

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It's not.

[Joe Johnson]

Do you know, man, first of all, even in the broad daylight, when you go that fast, it looked like everything, check lines and the road, like, yeah,

[Chad Ochocinco]

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Look, I, I'm like. I was like, man, and I remember, I remember going. And I thought. I was like, man, a bug hit my window, A bird hit my window. A. A blowout. It's over. Yeah, I broke it all the way down.

[Uncle Ocho]

It don't take but some. Yeah, it don't take numbers. Some small like that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No,

[Joe Johnson]

I'm good. Come on, fellas, be smart.

[Uncle Ocho]

Be smart, fellas. Hey, hey, hey. Because think about it. You know, in, in the country, you know, in down south, you go down them road, man, them big deals go to jumping out and all that.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, it's over.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's a wrap. It's a route.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Marshall Sprock had a strong opinion on black coaches trying to land football jobs. Out of 136 teams in major college football, only 30. Only 13 have a black head coach, down from 17 out of 120 in 2011. Of the 34 head coaches in the NCAA Powerful Big Ten Southeastern Conference, 33 are white. One black. Football is the only sport where the players struggle to come off the field and become coaches and they look like us and they're successful at the game playing. Then you won't be successful at the game in any other capacity. Falk name some examples. Matt Ryan was hired as the Falcons president of football operation this year. Without any front office experience. I'm just going to say what is. What is. Matt Ryan can be a gm. Why do no other players get to go through that, Jump through hoops to be a gm? JJ Redick has never had coaching experience and get the Lakers job. Could Marshall Faulk get the Ram job? Hell, no. What is that? Falk noted that the Texans consider high and Josh McCown as head coach in 2022 despite the lack of coaching experience. He also noted how Stefanski was just hired as the head coach with a worse record than the last coach that they fired, Raheem Morris. Stefanski went 5 and 12. Raheem went 8 and 9. He ain't lie. Nope. Y' all remember Matt Millen was an analyst and got the GM job. We're not doing. We're not getting. We ain't no sense. You know what? We're not getting those jobs. We're not getting no jobs. We gotta have like 15 years of experience. And you got to work. You got to been in the sky. You got to be in a scout. You. You got to be an assistant, assistant to the assistant of the GM and then got to work your way through. We not getting that. Marshall. Everything that you said was absolutely right, bro. That's.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's been that way for a very long time. We continue to fight that good fight for. For us to be afforded those positions, you know, to be leaders of men. But they just don't like us in. In said positions. They just don't. They just.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They want people that look like them. They want people more like minded like them. And that's the way it's always been. It has been that way. Now, there have been certain situations where coaches have been fortunate and done well. They've done well in those positions and. And been able to hold them for a very long time. I mean, outside of that, it just. It is what it is. You know, it's not the elephant in the room. And, and, and sometimes no.

[Uncle Ocho]

Shoot, man. Damn. That. It happened in basketball, too.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Here. Oh, y' all get way more opportunity than we do in football.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, I'm saying. I'm saying my guy. My guy, Steve Nash got the head coaching job. Coaching Kyrie and damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, no, you're not getting no job like that.

[Uncle Ocho]

You see what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying.

[Joe Johnson]

No job like that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, we jobs. We get. You get the Cardinals, you get. You get the Jets.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. You get the teams where you're gonna last maybe two, maybe three years, if that. You ain't getting no. You ain't getting a good job like.

[Joe Johnson]

You get one situation where you got a mic.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I was gonna say that.

[Joe Johnson]

That got the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah. But more times than not, you got to go to the jets, you got to go to the Cardinals. You got to go. You got to go to a team now they a rebuild. They ain't got no quarterback. You don't got no quarterback. And then guess what? The moment you get fired, they go get a quarterback.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, listen, you, you, you talk about JJ ready for the Lakers. Hell, look at Steve Kerr. Look what he inherited for what it done for him. Yeah, come on, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Like that. No, either way. And, and you just, you, you accept it. You know what it is? We're not. They say, look, they'll do everything. Like, oh yeah, he's so. But we wanted someone with some experience. And then you turn around and do what? Hire somebody that ain't got no experience. This is the number one that they do us, Joe, in football. We want someone that have actually called the plays and then turn around and hire somebody that didn't call plays on the very staff that you said this guy didn't call plays. But you won't give him a job. But you gave the guy right there, right? Everybody that's under Andy Reddick ain't called no plays any. They don't call plays for Sean McVeigh either. Sean McMay called the plays. Kyle Shanahan called the plays.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Now go back and look at the tree and look at all them guys that got jobs.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on, man.

[Joe Johnson]

And now you know the government don't put pressure on them. They don't did away with dei. Ain't no more Rooney rule. The Rooney rule was just off love. It was. It meant well. They meant well with the Rooney rules. I know Mr. Rooney that instituted this. I understand it. Bill Nunn really built that Steelers organization with the drafting of the players, all those players he drafted. And so I understand in theory what he was trying to do. And it's not saying just hire somebody that because they're black. Because the fact of the matter is I don't even think you'd be giving them of situation. I, I. And don't use me as no token Joe. Oho. You remember when the Cowboys brought Marvin Lewis in there?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And you know, you know, I, I know Marvin before you did, but you know Marvin, you know damn well Marvin wasn't getting no damn job. And they bring black guys in just to say

[Chad Ochocinco]

rule is that is something to get us to shut the hell up here. Damn. Y' all happy now?

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's performative. All performative.

[Joe Johnson]

It is. It's a shame too, though, Joe Ocho. I mean, I wish we. It's a shame, bro, but it is what it is. And, but I, but I Get it? I. I get it. You hire people that, you know, you really do.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's all it comes down to.

[Joe Johnson]

Because now people lie so much on it, man. They don't got this chat GPT, and they've been, hey, they got these resumes. Joe so. And Ocho so impeccable. Oh, I could do what is over there. Chat GPT. What. What is this role entitled? And what do I need to say on my resume?

[Uncle Ocho]

Right, right.

[Joe Johnson]

They hand it to the God Almighty. So you was a producer at 60 minutes and 48 hours, and you worked on ESPN. Oh, my goodness. Can't miss.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, who. Who the New Orleans Pelicans hire?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, the guy from. What you call it? The guy from Jamal Mosley.

[Uncle Ocho]

Did they.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they did.

[Uncle Ocho]

I wonder why they did that.

[Joe Johnson]

What you mean, why they did that?

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm saying he.

[Joe Johnson]

You about why Orlando fired him?

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, I know why they kind of fired him. It looked like they wanted to get rid of him. But what I'm saying is, if you got a guy. Meaning? Because I knew. I know Rondo was up for the job. I know that they was talking about bringing Rondo in. I'm saying, damn, man, you got to take some chances on some of these guys. I ain't saying Mosley didn't deserve a job, but damn, you can't take. You can't. You got a young team who I know. They know who the hell Rondo is. They'll respect him. You can't give him a shot. That's all I'm saying. Ojo dope.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I agree to be the Hawks coach.

[Uncle Ocho]

No. How's got a good coach in Quinn Snyder. He's a good coach.

[Joe Johnson]

You play with Quinn in Utah, right, Joe? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's my guy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's my guy on the roster, though.

[Uncle Ocho]

Put me on the roster. Damn. If I get. If I get. If I get signed by the Hawks to be an assistant coach, I ain't gonna be able to sit on here and talk no junk with y'. All.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But we. We don't come out till late at night.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on.

[Joe Johnson]

He played late at night, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, you know. You know, the hawks play, what, 7:30? Joe will be home by 11:00'?

[Uncle Ocho]

Clock. Before we get home, Ocho, we got road games. You play at home. Travel. I ain't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yo, just take your laptop and camera. I set you up.

[Uncle Ocho]

Y' all gonna be in the start, and we on the damn plane.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, I feel good, but I feel good. 80 goddamn booze. Comfortable, boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

He ready, huh? He ready.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, is he yeah, he ready.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know what he ready for man Ocho sit down.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm sitting down.

[Joe Johnson]

Now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Ocho

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[Uncle Ocho]

Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Yes. Before we get to the super chat, we got video one video voicemail from our discord. Let's take a listen.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, what's up, Ocho? ISO Unc man, I'm Sitting here watching the spurs game, hoping these spurs can mount this comeback. But if you guys don't mind, could you give four individuals in my household birthday shout out? I don't know how I end up like this, but I do have. I do know how I end up like this. If you don't mind giving Ari Money and Junior belated birthday wish. And my wife's birthday is coming up on the 26th. Her name is Tinasha.

[Joe Johnson]

If you don't mind giving her a birthday shout out as well.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Thank you, Tinasha. I forgot the other two.

[Joe Johnson]

Ari Money, Junior and Tinasha. So Ari Money and Junior, happy birthday.

[Uncle Ocho]

Happy birthday.

[Joe Johnson]

And Tinasha, I guess it was her birthday. Well, those are belated birthdays, I think. Tinasha birthday is today or coming up to you. So Ari Money, Junior Tanasha, happy birthday and congratulations, big fellow.

[Uncle Ocho]

On.

[Joe Johnson]

On the. The nuptials.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Happy birthday, Zayden.

[Joe Johnson]

Phenom. Ref let OKC get away with too much guarding Wimby, especially Caruso, and him and Hartenstein should have been filed out by halftime. Hold up, guys. We know that is a big thing. How are they going to call the game? Are they going to let them play or are they going to call it? Now? Normally they let them play a little. They let them play a little more in the postseason, but sometimes they can go overboard. So we'll see. I think Game three, I think on Friday night, Joe. We'll see. And we're going to find out early on.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

How they're going to call the game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Uncle Joe, this is not fair. This is not fair for players that play for the Thunder.

[Joe Johnson]

Right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You look at, you look at the. The discrepancy and height and length that Wimby bring to the game. How do you stop him? They have to allow them players to do maybe a little bit more than they would other players that play the five or the goddamn four because of how big he is. So they got to allow him to play a little bit more aggressive, to tug a little bit more.

[Joe Johnson]

You can't. Well, let me ask you a question. Should they be allowed to hold Tyreek because he faster? Should they be allowed to hold him? Damn, he's faster than everybody else. Ain't nobody else on the field. Ain't nobody running like. I mean, you gotta go back to lab, Olympic sprinters, Bullet, Bob Hayes and guys like that that could run like that. No, you can't do that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, and they did it with Shaq.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Because Shaq was so big. No, you can't do that?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I think for the, for the Thunder, they just gotta continue to do their work early. Meaning like, you know, before he gets inside the three point line, you want to bump and grind all the way till you get down. Now listen, what they gonna be looking for is the holding and the grabbing. The little stuff that they missing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That, that little clutching. Like if I, if one of my teammates driving and I hold Wimby just a little, just a half a second, they gonna be looking for that type of, that type of stuff.

[Joe Johnson]

So grab the man here, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

How is that not a foul? Actually, that's a flagrant foul because that's not a basketball player.

[Uncle Ocho]

You say they grab what?

[Joe Johnson]

He grabbed a Castle's hair.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, Peter, Ball said try it all, man. Hear me? Hey, Ocho, we trying to go to the finals. Hey, it's gonna be some, it's gonna be some discrepancies on some of these plays, bro. It's part of it that Malcolm X

[Joe Johnson]

by any means necessary. People are saying the spurs don't need Fox. They do, though. Castle ain't ready to be the primary ball handler. And why, why?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hold on.

[Joe Johnson]

Why Hardenstein snatch Castle hair like that?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, hey. The way that boy, the way that boy poked that thing on Hardenstein. Hell. Hey, hey.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Boy, he got bunnies. Boy, it didn't even look like it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, Aug, I agree though. Right now he's really not ready to be the lead guard. But when you look at it, I like him at the two being a two way player. I like Harper as the lead guard if Fox ain't in there. You know what I mean?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, your camera, your camera crooked. There you go.

[Uncle Ocho]

I like Harper. I like Harper at the lead guard versus Castle. But when Fox comes back. Yeah, when Fox comes back, he'll take a lot of them.

[Joe Johnson]

You put back, you put back to his normal spot.

[Uncle Ocho]

Castle. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

To where he's a, a defender. Obviously he's still gonna be able to attack. He's just not gonna have the ball in his hand. Damn near take some turnovers away. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Brandon Martinez says you can't even touch OKC without the refs calling it. It's, it's all good. Get the win. It might be one and the only time let spurs go. Look, I, I think third, I, I think how they call the game early is going to really determine the outcome. Because if you're gonna let them play, this is OKC style.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta keep your bigs out of foul trouble early. They See, the thing is, if any team, the spurs or okc, any of their bigs getting foul, like if Wimby catch two within six minutes of the first quarter here, they in trouble. Same thing with. Same thing with okc. Hardenstein a check catch, two fouls early in that first quarter. It just takes so much of your aggressiveness away that you're able to get pretty much whatever you want. You know what I mean?

[Joe Johnson]

But the problem is, is that if Hardenstein gets in trouble, you love to have him, but you're not looking him for the score. And Cornette hasn't been able to hold up his end of the deal like he has in the regular season. See, the problem is, is that when we. Wendy got winded and went to the bench, Cornette haven't get him anything. Especially like he did against in the previous series.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, no, they've been.

[Joe Johnson]

So that's why. Because there's so much. There's so much. There are so much more dependent on Wimby's points than they are Hartenstein points or even. Because Hardenstein, basically. Hardenstein and Chet. It's a two for one.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

When it's all said and done, can we neutralize him as far as points and rebounds? Can we be close to him in points and rebounds? That's what we. Because one guy ain't gonna do it. Yeah, but we got two bigs.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

So that's.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's tough, bro. That's tough.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho. I took every. If I took. If I took a shot every time you said G.D. i'm drunk right now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Goddamn. Hey, I don't think people understand. It's not God. It's not. It's not the man upstairs in got right. And that. That. Yeah. And they talk about that, but I curse more than I say God damn. And it's not G. It's not the man upstairs. It's G O T. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's always been part of my. My vocabulary.

[Joe Johnson]

You just.

[Uncle Ocho]

You just. You just passionate. And them cuss words kind of bring.

[Joe Johnson]

Bring a little more.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't understand what people. People have to understand. Like if. If you cook food right, you add seasoning to the food for flavor. That's all cursing is. Cursing is a sentence enhancer. That's merely. That's all it is. And I have an extensive vocabulary. But this is. This ain't the place to use it. This ain't the place to use it. This is for me to be free. That's why this is. This is. This is our show. So I can express myself the way I talk when I'm out there in the streets. You see, I ain't say streets. I say it's Greece. You see what I mean? Now, when I'm on linear television, then I'll change and be a little bit more professional in what I say in. In the way I pronounce.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But on here, I just want to be Ocho.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn. Y' all can't give OKC credit for those turnovers. This is like. This is not the T wolves. Yes, we give them credit, but. So look, some of those are great. Some of those are just careless turnovers, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Two things can be true. Yes, the Thunder are a tremendous defensive team, but some of those are just careless.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Force by forcing the issue, whether it's Castle just driving in there on three people and he, you know, loses control of the ball. Like, oh, he tried to throw a pass.

[Joe Johnson]

He done got up in there and then got caught.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, there you go.

[Joe Johnson]

With nowhere to go.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, Joe. He'd be a little out of control, too. Like, he moving too fast.

[Uncle Ocho]

But it's okay, Ocho. Cause listen, guess what? I rather have to pull the reins back a little bit versus having to push your ass out there and be like, hey, I need you to be more aggressive. You know what I mean?

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hardenstein pulling and yanking Castle by his head was dirty. The fact that it wasn't called is ridiculous. Greek. They're going to be looking. See, the problem is when you do stuff like that and officials in the game feel they miss it, the other officials going to be heightened.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

It's going to be up.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

They're not gonna let you get away with anything. Nope. So you're gonna have to be on your best behavior.

[Uncle Ocho]

And they're gonna be watching closely.

[Joe Johnson]

They're gonna be watching closely. And so the tickets that. Come on, ref. That ain't no file. You're right, it wasn't.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Normally we wouldn't call it, but you got away with it last time.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yep.

[Joe Johnson]

It's my birthday today. I turned 30. Can I please get a nightcap fam to give me a shout out, please? And it would mean the world to me. Anthony Guerrero, it's his 30th birthday. No more 20s. Happy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Happy birthday, aunt. I remember them day. But when I.

[Uncle Ocho]

Happy birthday, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Yep. Yeah, I remember that time, too. Boy, that was good, too.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I tell you what I was doing. Hey, 30.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, mar y marqu. Remember it like yesterday.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, you threw that thing apart. Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

It won't be two people. It was two people invited.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's what I thought. What a time. What a time, man.

[Joe Johnson]

But Anthony, happy 30th birthday, man. Enjoy. Enjoy this special day. TS Car Wash Detail service panel. Who y' all picking? Basha Odom, Michael red or Tayshawn Prince?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hold on.

[Uncle Ocho]

Who was the first one?

[Joe Johnson]

Chris Bosch vs. Lamar Odom and Michael

[Uncle Ocho]

red or Tayshaan Prince? Out of the four or the two? Them two matchups.

[Joe Johnson]

I guess they're two matchups.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Tayshawn was nice at Detroit boy by Lamar Odom.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Cause they totally different players.

[Uncle Ocho]

They are, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Cause Lamar go more. More of a point forward, back guard.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Bosch is the prototypical post player. Played with his back, worked on it and got to had three point range. Could put the ball on the floor.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Johnson]

They totally different players. Totally, totally different players. Michael Red is mainly a score. Taon Prince is more of a defender. What are you looking for? What team are they on, Joe? Because that's going to tell you. I'm gonna pick.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't know. I'm gonna keep it real with y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All.

[Uncle Ocho]

I like all them guys, but if I'm going with Bosch and Lamar Odom. Lamar Odom and I. I love Bosh, but I'm going. Hello. Because he can do so many different things. He can handle. He can play the point. He can post up. He unselfish. He can make a shot. He can score. He can make guys around him better. I remember when Lamar first came into. I remember when he was playing at Rhode island in college.

[Joe Johnson]

I do too.

[Uncle Ocho]

At 6, 9, 6 10. Uncle Ocho handling the rock like that. I'm like, damn, who's this big tall? And he left handed too.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Out of.

[Uncle Ocho]

Out of Michael Red and Tayshawn Prince. Hell, they all left handed. Michael Red left handed. Taysha.

[Joe Johnson]

I think that's what he. That's why he did it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Mike. Mike was a smooth score, bro. He could score the ball. But that damn, Taysha, he did everything. He did every damn thing.

[Joe Johnson]

Everything. For me, Joe, I think it has to be the situation, the team that. What. What does the team need? What type of team do I have?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Like you said, if I got a team that's established.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm pro. I'm probably gonna take Chris Bosch.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Because I'm not going to need him to do as much.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Team that's not as established that I would need somebody to be able to handle the ball. Can play off the ball like you said he can post up. Yeah, I probably take. Oh, now for me, I'm gonna take Tayshawn Prince because I'm gonna take his defense and because I'm not gonna. But again, what type of team do I need?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

If I got an established team like he went to with Detroit. Yeah, he was perfect.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Michael Red went to a situation where they needed scoring.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Michael Red wouldn't have fit that well. I don't know if Michael red would have fit as well with Detroit as Taeshawn Prince did.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right. Absolutely. You're absolutely right. TA took all the defensive. Defensive assignments. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Because now you got ta. And you got big Ben.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

My boy. OO y ear drinking Red Bull and com at the same time. It's diabolical. We still love you, twin. What's up, Ocho? ISO Best podcast in the game. Ocho. Try out Nana Morrison soul food kit and a cigar box when you come to Cary, North Carolina. That's Nana's Morrison soul food and the cigar box.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nana Morrison. Matter of fact, I went to. I went to Nana Morrison last time. It's in a big plaza and it's. Yeah, like buffet style. Like buffet style. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. Oh, yeah, Joe, did y' all have Morrisons? Y' all remember Morrison's and SNS cafeteria? Did y' all have those buffet places?

[Uncle Ocho]

No, we. No, we just had, like, the golden corrals and, yo, the bonanza. Y' all remember bonanza and all that?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, the TV show.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you talking about. You talking about the. The. The. The. The western?

[Uncle Ocho]

You talking about the TV show?

[Joe Johnson]

You talking about the western with little Joe being caught, right, hoss?

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm talking. I'm talking about. That's. That's a. It's a buffet style, but now, Joey

[Chad Ochocinco]

never heard of that. Hey, Joe, you ever heard of Piccadilly's?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Piccadilly. That's in this cafeteria. Morrisons.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Man, I ain't been to a buffet in a while.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, People too nasty, man. They got kids.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, Joe, you ain't. You ain't been. You know golden corral got them Hawaiian rolls. What?

[Uncle Ocho]

That's why I used to go, Ocho, when I. When I was young, my mama used to take me there all the time.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hawaiian rolls, the golden corral.

[Joe Johnson]

Why?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Get by. I got. I get by all six of them things.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, kids being there, playing in the food and all that.

[Joe Johnson]

On the. Man, you see them now? They said, go ahead and get your plate. Now, you know damn well ain't no reason no 5, 6 year olds need to be up. No buffet. They sticking their hands and grabbing, cooking. I'm sorry. Hey, Chad, I'm sorry, but. No, I'm good. Yeah, they don't waste up all the ice cream that I made. A cone. They got the ice cream this hot. They got a cone this big. Jay will say, can we talk about how Hardenstein was holding the whole game?

[Uncle Ocho]

Geez, bro, they not gonna call everything. Listen, man, I'm telling y', all, if I'm in that damn position, I'm gonna do a little holding, too. I don't know what else y' all want the man to do. The man, he can't. Hey, hey. He got to be physical. He gotta hold and grab a little bit. Hell, just for. Just to offset the game, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

You gotta. Yeah. Gotta impede until they call it.

[Uncle Ocho]

I.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, what? What? Oh. As a defender, what they tell you to do? Hold until they call it. And they're not gonna call it every place.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, that's. That's what I was saying earlier. The man is. Is different. They don't have to face anyone like him because he's so different. Referees are going to hold a whistle a little bit more. As opposed. Because of who he is. They ain't calling everything.

[Joe Johnson]

You right. It's show time. Peg last night, thanks to the Vice of Ocho. Love the guy show. Huh? What?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Wait. Who you got? A pug? What? He said.

[Uncle Ocho]

He said.

[Joe Johnson]

He said he got pegged thanks to you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. Okay. There you go, Brad. There you go. There you go.

[Uncle Ocho]

Listen, come on. Don't be indoors.

[Joe Johnson]

I took that one in my grave. Joe. Hey, hey.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What? Hey, listen. You. You and your woman, man, y' all enjoy that, man. You know, you. It's all about exploring, man. It's all about exploring, boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn. Oh, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I almost stay. I'm gonna stay long, then.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Oh, Ojo. You don't mind getting paid for me? I ain't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I. I ain't never did that. I was just suggesting it to y'.

[Uncle Ocho]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

The man said he took your advice.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You heard.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay, all right. Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Suggesting, y'. All.

[Uncle Ocho]

Joe, what you mean?

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all know I'll pay. I'll pay you no attention, right? Floaters neutralize shot blockers. Everyone's got to bring back the floaters for Wimy.

[Uncle Ocho]

They do. There you go. You better have one.

[Joe Johnson]

The spurs just need to slow down when the game is close. Hardenstein can't be pulling hair either. Spurs are in the catbird seat.

[Uncle Ocho]

They.

[Joe Johnson]

I do think the spurs are going to win game three

[Uncle Ocho]

in the driver's seat. They got home court advantage. They took home court advantage. But I don't know, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen. What? What's up, Big three? If y' all had to choose between women sga, who y' all choosing to start a franchise?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know they gonna pick Wimby.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on, come on, come on, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We've seen a few SGAs throughout NBA history, but we ain't never seen no damn Wimby.

[Joe Johnson]

We ain't never seen dope.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Watch it go from team Braun, the team Alien in real time. Yep. Hey, he about to make me come. You know, I was like he about to be because I was, you know, I was a Yokich and Luca,

[Uncle Ocho]

man.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ain't seen nothing like Wimpy, man.

[Joe Johnson]

That dude.

[Uncle Ocho]

That, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Good God. It ain't even fair. I agree with y' all guys. It ain't fair. He shouldn't be able to do that, but he can. Can you give some encouragement to my alma mater? Central High School competes in the women's flag football playoffs. Yes, Central High. Good luck in the flag football. I don't know what round this is, but it does not matter. All you need to do is win and advance. So team Nightcap want to wish you the best of luck. Go out there, give it to all, and let's see what happens.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, I wonder. I wonder if that's Central Miami Central down here in Miami. That's somewhere else.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't start me lying.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I ain't know that. That must be a woman. Woman's flag, too, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on, let me see. Got k. Can you give some encouragement to my Alma model Central High High School that competes in women's flag football? Yeah, I think it's women. Damn. Joe disappeared.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Joe, where you at? Joe? Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

He see all that talking? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey. He is this car. His camera went dead. I know that's what it was. Oh, hell, he ain't pay. He ain't pay the light bill. One or the other.

[Joe Johnson]

One of the two. Hey, basketball at his best. Shay show, huh? What the hell you got going on, Joe? What the hell you mean, what happened?

[Uncle Ocho]

Look, you, boy, Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Y'.

[Uncle Ocho]

All. Y' all trying to get rid of me.

[Joe Johnson]

That got nothing to do with us Ocho and I talking. I said, joe, what the hell happened? I said, ocho, what the hell happened?

[Uncle Ocho]

What happened? My screen J went blank, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Ocho said you got tired of talking and calling.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What kind of camera you got, Joe? You got that Sony Too.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, I ain't got. I ain't got. You talking about, like, y' all got a real Sony camera, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I got a real Sony camera. So my. My mind just cut off sometime out the blue.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, no, no. I gotta get mine. I gotta get my. Mine normally been good.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn. What I miss, bro? What I missed? I missed something?

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, not really. You was only gone for two seconds.

[Uncle Ocho]

That thing just went blank.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, that's how it's gonna look when I hit you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, don't, don't, don't. Don't laugh at him. Cause I promise I'm gonna send his ass back to you. Crying. He gonna be crying

[Joe Johnson]

playoff basketball at his best. Shay show why he's a superstar. Spurs need to cut down on the turnovers. They sure need to fix back Fox back on game three. I think he comes back on game three. I think they take care of the. I think they take care of the basketball, and I think they will.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't think game three gonna be as easy as you think. I think due to. I don't know if Harper gonna be able to play. I think obviously Fox gonna come back, but, damn, we gotta see how he gonna be when he come back off that. Off that ankle. Uncle Ocho, you know, there ain't no guarantee he gonna come back. And he gonna be 100, you know, he probably gonna come back because maybe if Harper is out, he probably feel like he gotta come back. You know what I mean?

[Joe Johnson]

Right. I gotta do it. I'm sorry. Son of Michelle K. Michelle. That's my Michelle. Nixon 5. Love y', all, fellas.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that was. Hey, it might be Nixon for a.

[Uncle Ocho]

The.

[Joe Johnson]

The cows got to get this thing back. I know they hard.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's. I'm gonna be honest with you.

[Joe Johnson]

It's.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's hard for me to see where they can bounce back from that loss, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's crazy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Who's the most overrated team. Who's the most overrated NBA and NFL team in history?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Overrated? I mean, Joe team.

[Uncle Ocho]

What you mean? You need to chill, my Cowboys.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I ain't say no name. You mentioned it.

[Uncle Ocho]

You need to stop it, bro. For real. You need to chill.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I ain't even say no name. And you mentioned it.

[Uncle Ocho]

She needs to chill. You need to cheat. You said my team. Hell, I ain't got but one team in the NFL.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, I thought the Falcons was your team.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, I go to. I go to the games, though, but I a. Like, I ain't know, you know?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

My bad.

[Uncle Ocho]

Talking about he thought the Falcons was my team,

[Joe Johnson]

man. Man say oo. Whistling. Whistling Braille.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, hey. I got, I got a question. Like all jokes aside, what's wrong with my whistle? I mean I whistle normal. Like I don't know how to do the one like this, you know.

[Uncle Ocho]

We didn't hear no whistle.

[Joe Johnson]

We a hear nothing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You hear that? What are you talking about?

[Uncle Ocho]

No, we don't. Nothing, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, I'm sorry.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, with my baby. I know my baby watching. Baby, am I whistling? Because they, they, they, they trolling, man. Hey, hey Joe, you know how to do that whistle?

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't know how to do that one, uncle.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know how to do the whistle where they put the two pinkies in their mouth?

[Joe Johnson]

No, I can't do that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Loud as hell, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, Nolan Richardson used to do that. My high school, my college coach, he used to do.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Trying to get your damn attention. Hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, they say hello. You see this Carter bride had to go to the, the public restroom, do it mid game.

[Uncle Ocho]

He had the bubble guts.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know what he had but they got it coming out the, they got him coming out of the public restroom, you know.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, he 20 years old. He, he's still a little nasty.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he don't know better. Oh, you do realize sharp oo can only say GD 1200 times a night. Kinky Kinko and Steel King ISO. Hardest one on matchup in your career?

[Uncle Ocho]

The hardest one on one matchup in my career. Yes. I always give credit, you know, to guys like Rip Hamilton and then Ray Allen for all the running that they do. But border guard Kobe and Braun and Mello and D. Wade, guys who can break the play at any point and go and score them the hardest dude to guard because they so unpredictable. You know, if they find a crease or get a crease, they going for it. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey guys, you're the GM and you're building around Shea or Wimby and you got the choice today. Knowing what I know. Not even though Shea is a two time league MVP and he's won the championship.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, we said that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho, how was it acting on the show, the game? Do you remember that role?

[Chad Ochocinco]

That was good. That was good. That was good. I think for that role, net appearance on the game, I should have won an Emmy for what I was able to do. Obviously just happened to be myself. The, the character that I did depict is, is similar to some of my situations that go on in real life. So that was me in Real time. And there have been situations like that that I've come across, you know, with individuals that I've dated over, over time. And I mean, it was good, you know, just having to be myself and not having to play a character at that time.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

In my young acting career, it was dope. And I thought I did a very, very good job.

[Joe Johnson]

You averaged 15 in the playoffs. Can we please talk about your playoff stats? Let's be fair. I don't know who he talking about, Joe. You averaged 15 in the playoffs.

[Uncle Ocho]

I may have had a playoff series. I did average 15. I don't. I mean, I don't know if that's no career, though.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Joe. The promo before the game at Jacksonville in 2005 was classic Rasheed Mathis. You can't cover me. What are you going to. What was it going to like against him? Your touchdown celebration. You were doing cpr.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Sheen Ma was very good. He was very good. I think at that time we went into Jacksonville, I think we were 4. 0. We were 40 at that time. We. I think we ended up losing that game. And I was crying on camera after the game. It's funny, Joe. We 4. 0. I'm crying on camera cuz now we 4 and 1 because I felt that was the game that we shouldn't have lost. But Rasheem Matthew was very good. Very, very good. Especially impressed. Very aggressive play inside and out. You know, he keep. Keep you thinking. Once he get his hands on you, you're done. Yeah, so I did. I did everything in my power to make sure I wasn't able to get touched. I don't remember what my stat line was that game, but I remember Rasheed Mathis being one that I really had no choice but to get up for because I did all that damn talking before the game.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right.

[Joe Johnson]

And he was a good player too.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, you went to HBCU too, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he went to Bethune.

[Uncle Ocho]

Or.

[Joe Johnson]

Or he went to. Yeah, he went. I think he went to. Yeah, yeah, I think it was.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I think he did. I think I might be wrong.

[Joe Johnson]

I think he went to Cookman. Can we Talk about your 15 points in the playoffs? You guys have a responsibility to be honest. Y' all not creating a narrative. Oh, you say wrong stats. You claim you've seen LeBron James give a 31 lead. I never said that. I said Kobe gave up a 31 lead and would prove the point by not taking a shot. Ain't nobody say that. I said LeBron came back from 3:1 and we know he's the only one to come. I'm moving on. With your background colors next to each other, it's like a French flag. Is that for women?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, that's dope. Hey, Joe, your background blue on yours, red, and mine white.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I like that. That's dope. That's dope. How they can't.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We cheering on the big champagne. What do you think is easy for people to hate on someone or appreciate?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, yeah, way easy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got to be a different person to give someone their gratification. Give someone they fly.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, because we know. We. We. Because we know. We know you.

[Joe Johnson]

You.

[Uncle Ocho]

And we know. Uncle Ocho, ain't y' all really give me my flowers when I, you know,

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, like what I mean, I'll

[Chad Ochocinco]

give you your flower, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm talking about from when I be kicking on y' all ass. When I kicked on y' all ass in January. No, y' all don't give me my flower for that. Y' all don't just. Just say, joe, you was a bad boy, man. It's always an excuse. I'm saying, man, we. You know what I'm saying? That's all I'm saying.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you know what, Joe? Hey, hey, uncle, he living on the past a little too much. We need. We need to hurry up and set something. We need to set something else back up.

[Joe Johnson]

We get. We gave his credit, but I still ain't good enough.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't know what else he want.

[Uncle Ocho]

All y' all had to say, well, yeah, you right, Joe.

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You.

[Uncle Ocho]

You. You use a cold.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Say that, Joe. God damn, Joe. You full of cockey, Joe. That's what we've been to say. Vacancy completes this episode of Nightcap as you watch the OKC Thunder tie the series up, heading to San Antonio. What was the final? 120. 122 to 113. Big, big night from Shay, Gilgis Alexander. They had three guys come off the bench and give them double figures, and that was the difference in the ball game. But. But two guys. Three guys left the ball game. Dylan Harper, who was filling in the starting lineup for Darren Fox, he left the ball game. J Dub, or re injured what looks like to be his hamstring, he left the ball game. And the guy that played so well in the previous series against the Lakers, he ends up leaving the ball game with a lower leg injury. So we'll see how this plays out over the next 36 hours and see what. What. What comes of that. But it's going to be very very interesting if those three players do not play in Game three. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite UNC and my partner and co host, the Bingo Ring of Fame honoree, a former Pro Bowler and an All Pro that is Chad Ochocinko Johnson and the third member of the Big three, a seven time NBA All Star from the University of Arkansas that is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier head over to laportierconac.com if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. It is a premium vsop. Cognac is smooth, great taste and it drinks like an exo. Please, please drink responsibly and stay safe. We've been nominated for the Hashtag Sports Award of 2026 short list in four categories. Best Brand Partnership Nightcap Outside in Row Best Podcast Best Athletes Podcast Best Use of Live Video. That link is pinned into the chat. Go vote as many times as you like for Nightcap. Thank you guys. And again the San Antonio spurs Even the series one piece with a 122, 113 victory over the San Antonio Spurs. The spurs did what they wanted to do. They snatch home court. Now we're going to see if they can consolidate it, go home on third on Friday and win game three again. We'll see you tomorrow night after the Knicks Cleveland game. I'm un he's oo he's ISO. Thank you guys for joining us. Until tomorrow. Sam,

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