Nightcap Hour 1: Jaron “Boots” Ennis BEATS Xander Zayas + Lionel Messi Is THE GOAT + Jaylen Brown HAS TIME for His HATERS

Summary

Nightcap Hour 1 - June 28, 2026

Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”), Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, Joe Johnson ("ISO Joe")

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Episode Overview

This episode kicks off a packed “Nightcap Hour 1” with instant reactions to major headlines in sports. The crew delivers deep—often funny and always unfiltered—takes on:

• Jaron “Boots” Ennis' dominant victory over Xander Zayas in junior middleweight boxing
• The continued greatness of Lionel Messi at age 39
• Jaylen Brown’s value, his haters, and the disrespect he faces in NBA narratives

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Main Segment 1: Boots Ennis Dismantles Xander Zayas

Fight Breakdown (06:00–26:00)

• The team opens with high praise for Jaron “Boots” Ennis, who unified the WBA and WBO Junior Middleweight titles, knocking down Zayas multiple times before a 7th round stoppage.
• They analyze round-by-round, focusing on defensive lapses, in-fight adjustments, and the psychology of both fighters.

Key Observations:

• Boots switched from orthodox to southpaw early:
  • "Every lead left he threw, he landed it. He was like, damn, 100. Every flush." (Joe, 07:29)
• Zayas’ toughness and resolve commended:
  • "You gotta salute Xander, too… 23 years old, at the champion. I’m gon’ take a test, I’m gon’ take a chance. Do something most fighters won’t do.” (Joe Johnson, 09:41)
• But tactical critique appears:
  • "I just don't like the game plan of sitting there in the pocket and fighting with a puncher like that...get in there, pick and choose when you want to throw, throw your combinations, get out of range." (Joe Johnson, 10:25)

Debate on Boots’ Defense:

• They note Boots got hit during his aggressive approach:
  • "He took some shots…but most of the time, he rolled with 'em...the third round, Boo scared me, boy." (Joe Johnson, 14:00)
• Concerns were raised about whether Boots can be just as effective against bigger, stronger punchers at higher weight classes:
  • "Defensive, you're gonna have to be a little bit more polished, a little bit more sound…” (Joe Johnson, 09:23)

Future Matchups & Boxing Culture:

• Calls out the lack of risk-taking in modern boxing:
  • "We see far too many guys…with belts, older than 23, won’t accept the challenge." (Joe, 13:33)
• Discusses Boots’ potential next fights (Virgil Ortiz Jr., Terence Crawford), with both tantalized and skeptical about a Bud Crawford match:
  • "If I get him like that, I promise you I'll get him out of there." (Joe, quoting Ortiz tweet, 18:36)
  • “If you get a clean shot, he going to sleep.” (Joe, 16:07)
• Highlights the need for personalities in boxing, suggesting entertainment value is crucial:
  • "If you’re not a draw, you can’t take those chances. You can lose a fight or two if you’re a draw…” (Joe Johnson, 29:00)

Memorable Moments:

• Back-and-forth jokes break up the technical talk:
  • "You ain't backing out nothing. Not even park!" (Joe, 14:33)
  • On taking punches in sparring: “Man, about 45 seconds, my heart about to explode…I gotta sit down.” (Joe, 31:00)

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Main Segment 2: Lionel Messi Is (Still) THE GOAT

Messi’s World Cup Brilliance (38:23–44:40)

• Messi's stunning free kick and extending his World Cup goal-scoring records, even at age 39, draw awe from the panel.

Key Quotes:

• "Messi is phenomenal. What he's done for the game...holding your breath anytime the ball's at his feet…” (Joe Johnson, 39:05)
• "He makes it look so effortless…I mean, they say soccer is hard—how you come in just like that and just kick the ball in the damn net?” (Joe, 41:14)
• On Messi’s pace and body control:
  • "Some guys…you can't speed them up. They play at their own pace, and they make the game look easy—just like that." (Uncle Joe, 41:23)
• GOAT debate framed by personal taste:
  • “Sometimes you got two fine women, right?...the one on the left is Messi—fine, perfect in everyone else’s eyes. But the one on the right—you like her better.” (Joe Johnson, 43:30)

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Main Segment 3: Jaylen Brown’s Value, Respect, and the NBA Narrative

Critique of Narrative & Analytics (47:54–80:10)

• The panel vehemently rejects recent NBA analyst claims that Jaylen Brown is merely the seventh-best player on his team.
• They praise his two-way game, positional flexibility, and recent accolades.

Key Points:

• "Jalen Brown is not the seventh best player on OKC, San Antonio…he’s the best two-way player in all of basketball. He can guard one through four—legit." (Joe, 48:33)
• "You'd have to be an idiot to say he's eighth best in any goddamn…" (Joe Johnson, 49:10)
• "Analytics is messing stuff up…it’s getting out of hand. I got two eyes." (Joe Johnson, 48:51)
• "The Boston Celtics view Jason Tatum more valuable than Jalen Brown. That’s it." (Joe, 54:16)

Disrespect, Trade Rumors & Future (52:19–80:10)

• Brown’s struggles with feeling underappreciated are explored; the panel ties it to repeated trade rumors and lack of organizational defense.

Memorable Lines:

• "He said, y’all have really never valued me. You’ve never given me the credit I deserve…He’s gotten better and better." (Joe, 51:30)
• "Every time you look up your name in trade negotiations…he’s the best two-way player in the game, bro.” (Uncle Joe, 52:19)
• On organizational priorities:
  • "The Boston Celtics view Jason Tatum more valuable than Jalen Brown. That’s it." (Joe, 54:16)

Broader NBA Trends & Commentary

• Panel rails against the influence of analytics, both on playing styles (over-reliance on threes, undervaluing mid-range) and on player narratives:
  • "Analytics nowadays are used to discredit and control narrative…Analytics have our ruining games. We played AI hoops." (Joe, quoting Jalen Brown’s social, 76:32–77:20)
  • "They getting astrophysics and they getting mechanical engineers. The numbers guys don’t know nothing about it!” (Joe, 79:54)

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Notable Quotes & Banter

| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |-----------|-------|---------| | 07:29 | "Every lead left he threw, he landed it. He was like, damn, 100. Every flush." | Joe | | 14:33 | "You ain't backing out nothing. Not even park!" | Joe (to Uncle Joe) | | 41:23 | "They play at their own pace, and they make the game look easy…that’s kind of how it is for Messi." | Uncle Joe | | 49:10 | "You'd have to be an idiot to say he's eighth best in any goddamn…" | Joe Johnson (on Jalen Brown) | | 54:16 | "The Boston Celtics view Jason Tatum more valuable than Jalen Brown. That’s it." | Joe | | 77:20 | "Analytics nowadays are used to discredit and control narrative…Analytics have our ruining games. We played AI hoops.” | Joe, quoting Jaylen Brown | | 80:21 | "There's only one AI—Allen Iverson. That's it." | Joe Johnson |

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Running Jokes & Signature Nightcap Energy

• Spirited trash talk about who could take punches and who has the most reach (“that lead left ain’t gonna hit nothing but my damn elbow”).
• Car and “test drive” analogies to relationships, the NBA, and loyalty.
• Running riffs on fitness influencers and altered images on social media (“nowadays, everybody got fit in their name…”).
• Candid talk about “grown men don’t play” and the code of not disrespecting food, money, or family.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Boxing: Boots Ennis vs. Zayas Recap: 06:00–26:00
• Boxing Philosophy & Entertainment in the Sport: 26:00–32:00
• Messi’s WC Brilliance & GOAT Debate: 38:23–44:40
• Jaylen Brown Respect, Role, and Analytics Talk: 47:54–80:10

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Overall Tone

Authentic, unfiltered, irreverent and knowledgeable—just as fans expect from Shannon Sharpe, Ochocinco, and Joe Johnson. Banter is rapid-fire, analogies are wild, and though the humor is strong, the sports analysis is insightful and rooted in lived experience at the highest level.

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Final Takeaways

• Boots Ennis is the new king at junior middle, but his defense is an issue as he climbs.
• Lionel Messi’s genius is undebatable; witnessing greatness in its twilight is a gift.
• Jaylen Brown deserves more respect; analytics and modern NBA narratives often fail to capture the full story of a player’s impact.
• “Be entertaining, or be great…best if you can be both.” —Nightcap’s guiding principle for sports and life.

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For full jokes, deeper technical breakdowns, and the full dose of Unc and Ocho’s chemistry, listen to the episode in its entirety.

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[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, hey, Uncle. He taking a lot of punishment in there, man. He's taking a lot of punishment in there. I really, I mean. Well, let me know when to go on.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Go ahead.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

All I'm gonna say is this. When he came, when he switched, he started on orthodox. Because he's an orthodox fighter. Yes, he Went to southpaw Ocho. Every lead left, he threw, he landed it. He was like, damn, 100. I'm talking about every. I'm talking about flush. I'm like, damn, Sandy, you. He doing all this. His head still. It's like. You know how they move that ball and they be punching that ball? They'll be going back and forth. That's there in the head. Shoulders moving, head. Right there, right there.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. But Boost took a little beating, too, now.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, Joe, the third round. Come on. That third. That third round. I mean, Boo said it. Boo said it. You know, when he talked to the commentator after the fight. In that third round, I got a little bit lazy with my defense. He took some shots, Unc and Joe, but most of the time, he rolled with him.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

But at that third round, and I'm surprised that Xander also. That Boots being the puncher that he is, Xander chose to just stay in the pocket and just.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Oh, you want to get out of range or move your head? I do. Both. He can get out of range and move your damn head.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, yeah. He get. He getting caught in between punches.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, Boo showed me something, though, because he took some. Hey, he took. He took a little beating himself for him to still stay in there.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

In that pocket like that. Yeah. And fight them. Oh, man. Listen. Hey, the only thing that concerns me is.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

You know, Boost playing better, fighting better competition, and, you know, guys who probably hit a little harder.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Harder. Yeah. I mean, especially. Yeah. Once you go up to 154.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Well, he had 154. Now he might end up at 68. You start going to 60. 68. When you start getting middle and super middle, boy, look here. They knock your damn head off. Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Absolutely.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Absolutely. Obviously, every. Everyone at those weight classes, they hit

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

a little harder, man.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Therefore, defensive. You're going to have to be a little bit more polished, a little bit more sound, and. And be weary, especially when you sit in the pocket, you know, with people and you. You don't want to get caught in between exchanges when you're punching. But tonight was a phenomenal fight, and I. I salute Xander, too, Uncle Joe.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Because he decided at 23. 23 years old, at the champion. I'm gonna take a test. I'm gonna take a chance. I'm gonna do something that most fighters won't do today. I'm not worried about my record. I'm not worried about my legacy. I'm gonna go out here and give the people that are boxing fans Something that they want a good fight, man.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Listen, listen. Damn. How long. How long he been out? When Last time he fought Uncle Ojo?

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Who, the.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

The other dude? Xander? Yeah, he was out for a minute, right?

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

No, no, he active.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

He'd be active.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

He ain't been that long.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

You find out Joey's last fight, I

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

think it's been like a. Like a year and some change, ain't it, Ojo?

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[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

I'm not sure, Joe, but he active, though.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

He should. Hey, hey. He probably should have got a little tune up before you got messing with boots, bro.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, I. I don't think a tune of tuna would have. Wouldn't have changed nothing. I just don't like. I don't like the game plan of sitting there in the pocket and fighting with a puncher like that. You know, get in there, pick and choose. When. When you want to throw, you know, throw your combinations, get out of range

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

because, you know, because, you know, because y' all know what happened. He threw his wad out in that damn third. In that third round. He threw his wide.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

The problem is he's not puncher. See, the problem. The. The thing that Bruce is going to have a problem with is because he's a knockout artist, in order to sit on that back foot and throw punches, he finds himself out of position a lot. Ocho now better fighters and fighters that can. That got bricks in their hands.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Touch his chin. He out of there because he. I mean, he's throwing punch and he's like this.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

So.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

And that expect.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Look, you already know, Ocho as got somebody that sparred and bit and that really followed the fight game. In order to throw the punch, you got to subject yourself to take something.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

When you see somebody, they. They. Well, the minute you stick your head over. Pew somebody.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Something coming back. Always. I was gonna say, I really enjoyed that fight. I really enjoyed that fight. Xander impressed me even in defeat. Like, I. I salute him. You have to unc. Because this is something that we've been arguing about, Joe, all the time, about people not wanting to take chances, people not wanting to fight, you know, fighters trying to protect the zero. But I think even with him, even with him losing, even with him losing, even in defeat, I salute Xander. I salute him. And I think he's going to be. Going to be a champ. He's going to be a champ again. And as far as boost goes, I'm not sure who he fights, you know, from here on out. I think Virgil Ortiz would be. Would Be a good one. I'm not sure what's going on with that, but, yeah, I really enjoyed that. Was an entertainment.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

No, you know what? Xander fought. His Last fight was January 31st of 2026. He won. Him. He won a decision. And then he fought before that. He fought July 26th of 2025. He won by the unanimous decision.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Oh, yeah, he's been pretty active.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, he just.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Yeah, I think boosted just above where he is currently.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

He is. I. And I thought he just. Man, I thought he came out so aggressive so fast. Uncle Ocho, I'm like, ain't no way this going to distance, bro. He gonna get like, you taking too much of a beating. You standing there in that box trading blows. I'm like, oh, yeah, that boy didn't throw his wide. That. Excuse me. That fourth and fifth round I saw. Yeah, he ain't gonna.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, Joe.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

When he. Because he switched, he started out in Orthodox, then he went to Sadho, and. And he was hitting it with every lead that he threw. I said, I tell you what, if he don't get out of range and move his damn head, we about to start Nightcap. I don't know. I don't know what time we had it scheduled for, but if he didn't do those three, two things, we about to start this early. Cause you can't. Ocho, you. I mean, he getting hit like. Like he a punching bag.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm talking about.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

I'm talking about right. Right down the pike.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

But then it was like Boost was trying to challenge himself to see if he could eat one of them punches and steal. You know what I mean?

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hold on, bro.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Why you ain't blocking that?

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, hey, I ain't gonna lie to you, Joe. Boost have some moments where he'd be real slick in the pocket, and he, like. He'd be in slow motion. You know how you're playing around.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, yeah, man, He.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

He had some moments like that. We was real slick, but, boy, in that third round, Boo scared me, boy.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

You see what happened? He got what he. What did they tell you? Never back straight out. He back straight out. Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

His head was on the line. Yeah. Head was on the line.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro, you can't do that. You can't pull straight back.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

I mean, you would know something about not pulling straight back. You know, you got to in here, so. Damn.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, Joe.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Hey, Joe, you see that, man?

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

I ain't saying nothing.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

He done. He done went way in left field.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Talking boxing, we already know. You Ain't backing out nothing. Not even park. But, no, no, I. I thought. I thought. I thought tonight. Boots was very, very impressive. I understand. Xander is a young fighter. He's 23 years of age, and to take this step so early in his career, a lot he lost. We could applaud him, but we see far too many guys that got belts that are older than 23 that will not take. Accept the challenge they keep.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Absolutely.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

We gotta have a rehydration clause if we gotta fight at catch weight, and we need to fight on Mars. And then can somebody come to the moon? Man, stop with all these damn stipulations to get y' all ass in there and fight.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, what you said? They said they want to fight with

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

the moon, Mars all over the place. Hey, Ocho, they want rehydration clauses. They want a catch weight. Nah, you gotta belt, I gotta belt. Hey, let's get it on.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Let's get it on.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Sean, Showtime. Porter said Boots lacks discipline. That's the downfall. And no game plan. Like I said, Virgil Ortiz Jr. Says if I get. If I get him like that, I promise you I'll get him out of there. Terrence said I'm gonna keep my comments to myself. But y'.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

All.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

But y' all get it. I hope. Cause, you know, Booze was talking about, he want Bud hit him. Alexander hit him. Oh, he going to sleep.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

He's not withstanding that Ocho a clean shot like Vander hit him with.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying.

[Narrator/Commercial Announcer]

We.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

We saw. We saw with Bud, too. You know, Bud being the fighter that he is, the resume and the accolades that he's put up. But we saw against Canelo, he sat in the pocket.

[Karen or Georgia (My Favorite Murder Podcast Hosts)]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

The one thing that we talked about in that fight with him, going against Canelo is sticking and moving and getting out the way because we thought, you know, Canelo was too powerful.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Too hard. And what the goddamn Bud show us. I' ma sit right here in the pocket. I'm gonna pick my opportunities and my chances and when to take them. And he sat there and exchanged with him.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Yeah, Bud. I'm not Bud, but Bud. But Canelo doesn't have the hand speed, so Bud really wasn't worried about him putting combo, putting a 1, 2, 3 together. 1, 2, 1, 2, 3. Bud was never worried about that. He knew Canelo was going to try to wind up. He knew Canelo was going to try to get him out of there because Canelo thought he had a decided advantage. Here's a guy that's been fighting his damn near his whole career at168.68. He's moved up Bud jump. I mean, think about what Bud started. 40, 47, 54. He's. One fight at 54. F60. I'm going to 68, and I'm gonna get the only man that's ever unified that division, Canelo. Yeah, but. Hey, Bud, sit down. But here's the thing. Having sat down and talked to Bud and wrestled Bud. Bud stronger than you think. See, they look at his size, and they say, oh, man, Buzz. Okay.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, what are you fighting at?

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

What Bud fight most of his career? 147. 40. 47. He had the one fight at 54, and then he took Canelo at 68. He bypassed 60. He never had a fight at 60. Only had one fight at 54 and one fight at 68. The majority. 40, 47.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah. Hey, that's a mega fight right there.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Who, Boots? Boots and Bud.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

I tell you what, y' all might not get paid that much. I'm taking all that money and putting it on Bud. I don't know. I don't know what you do with y', all, but I put all that money on Bud.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, I mean, I don't. I don't think that's happening anytime soon. Bud is enjoying retirement right now, but I think the next fight for Boots is Virgil Ortiz.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

I think Virgil Ortiz, especially with him talking.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Oh, yeah, he just. He told me. I just read you his tweet, Ocho.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

If I get him like that, I promise you I get him out of there.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, Moose had a game plan today. I'm gonna come out aggressive. I'm not fighting at range. I'm not fighting that distance. I'm finished in this pocket. And go. It seems that as if Booth challenged himself to do. Do something. To do something different. I'm gonna show y'. All. I'm gonna make the fight entertaining. If you paid money to come watch me fight, I'm gonna make an entertaining. I'm not doing no running. I'm gonna sit in the pocket.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

And he literally did just now just doing that Also. When you decide to do that, you. You got to be on point, Joe, defensively, because you're going to get. You get. You get caught in between punches. And what happened? He got wobbled.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

But here's the thing, though, Ocho. I'll put it to you like this. You going up against a DB that he happened to be 165. Guess what? Ocho gonna say, man, I ain't finna finesse you. I'm finna bully you. I'm finna bully you. That's why Boost was able to sit there. He never believed for one second Xander could hurt him with any shot that he threw. That's why he's not in the pocket. He ain't sitting in the pocket. First of all, Bud. I don't know if Bud would fight him like he fought Canelo. Bud is a lot smarter than you think. Bug A people sleep on Bud. I don't know. I don't know why. I mean, he's the only man that's unified. Three divisions, and you don't see guys go from 140 to 68, jump three. Basically one fight at 54. Basically, he jumped three divisions. Three. Come on, now. But I don't know. I don't. I don't know if Bud's like, look, man, I done made money. Now it's time for me to sit back and let these young fell. Let the other fellas have it. He a four division champ. He's a three. He a three division unified champ. Let that sink in. In the four bet era, he got three divisions in which he had all four of them.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, hey. If the bag big enough, that man will come fight uncle.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, hey, Joe, you know. You know, you know, we know the script now.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, yeah. Come on.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

We know the script. Boxes retired. And they do it. They do it on purpose. They come, they. They retire.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Why are they on top?

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

It's only one way to get him out.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yep.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Make it worth my while.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

How much are we talking?

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hello.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hello.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

It's gonna take a. A Canelo number, but, man, Boots. Boots look unbelievable. Have him on the show. He seemed. You know, guys, we talked to him. He seems so competitive. Hey. Composed, like, hey. Not even worried. Said he had a great camp. Everything. Everything was trending in the right direction. No massive cuts. It didn't have to do anything extraordinary. Just go in there and booty boots tonight. And that was plenty. That was, man. I'm like, Xander, bro. Oh, I. I honestly. I can honestly say I don't know if I've ever seen somebody get hit with that many leads. Clean to start. I mean, you know. Okay. As the fight wanes. Okay. Got it, guys. Tired and you taking some punishment. You got, you know, one of the eyes are closed. You got a bad cut, it's bleeding. But, Ocho, in the first damn round, you're supposed to be at your absolute precious.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, man. Boots came out Aggressive, huh? He came out aggressive. I'm gonna. I'm gonna jump on. I'm gonna jump on him right away just to set the tone and let him know what kind of night it's gonna be. And Xander, like, okay.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Bet he let him know.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

You know what? Xander, look. Hey, hey, hey, Uncle Joe. Xander looked like the stronger person.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

I mean, he probably. When he refused Ocho, I would not be surprised. I don't know what they had to come back out, how much they could come in at, but he looked like. He 54. He looked like 65, maybe even 70.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, he might be bigger. He's a. He's just. He's a bigger individual than Boots. Anyway,

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

as a fan of the sport of boxing, bro, this is what you want to see. You want to see something exciting, man. You don't all that fill out the first three, four rounds, and then. You know what I mean, man, them boys got right to it as soon as the bell rang, you know what I mean? So I can appreciate that.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

And boost.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

I mean, just coming from a line of boxes, bro, his dad in his corner, his brother's box brother.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, look, he's so composed because he's been in this situation before. That's all he's done his whole life, bro.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

You know what I mean? It's probably everything that he's seen, so it was impressive tonight. I want him to protect himself a little.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

A little more.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

But for the most part, bro, I thought some of the combinations he was putting together. Uncle Ocho, the way he was bopping that boy upside his head, I was like, how in the hell the dude's still standing up?

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

That's. Hey, he tough boy. And you know what? The funny thing about it, too, Uncle Joe, ain't no way in hell as a Puerto Rican fighter, he was gonna give up and he was gonna quit. If he was gonna lose that fight tonight, Booster gonna have to knock him out or his tower gonna have to throw the corner, throw the towel in.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

One of the two was gonna happen. But in that ring, what Xander showed us tonight. I'm not quitting. I'm going out on my shield.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Well, he.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

He went down. He went down twice without that marriage.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Three without that. No, he went out three times. If without that marriage proposal. He went out on the shield.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey. Without. Hey.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Without that marriage before.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

That's a good one.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Hey, That's a good one.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

That's a good one.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Hey. Hey. Because what you call him. Hey. He dug to the body. He felt him digging in, he dug to the body. But, hey, that. What was that? The second knockdown? Hey, the uppercut, he never saw it. That's the most dangerous punk because you never see it. Maybe at the last second or overhand, you might can catch it. It still might not be able to do. But that uppercut, you never see. It's a blind spot. You look at where he was looking and where who threw it from, he never saw it.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, the funny thing about it is he threw the jab and he noticed. Okay, every time I throw the jab, I'm hitting him, and if I don't

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

hit him, drop it down to the side. He fade to the side. I'm gonna throw this uppercut. Yep.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, listen, I'm gonna throw the jab and have the uppercut coming with your head gonna be.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yep, yep.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, hold this, Joe. That just. I'm gonna do your damn, Joe.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Here we go.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Oh, you was taking notes of that fight. So you looking for the lead. That lead left gonna land the whole night.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, that man reach. What you mean that lead left? That damn left ain't gonna hit nothing but my damn elbow here.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, okay.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

You.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, hey, I got too much reach on you, man. I told you, boy, you're gonna have to eat two or three, two or three of these before you can even get up in here.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

I'm coming that thing. I'm coming that thing like Tyson, Joe.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

You go get your ass knocked out playing. Yep. On the floor.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

I'm precise with my punches, bro. I ain't got that. I'm just.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Okay. Yeah, it sound good. You got. Hey, you got the noise down, right? Yeah, that's about it.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Buzz started at 35 with the 40, 47. Had one fight at light middle with junior middle, which is 154 and then super middle. But this was fight. Hey, booze put on the show. This is what you.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yes, sir, want to see.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

This is what boxing fans want to see. They want to see guys. They want to see guys. I mean, both guys had unblemished records. Somebody old gots to go. These guys, hey, man, these guys be hoarding these records like they got they gold bricks, man.

[Karen or Georgia (My Favorite Murder Podcast Hosts)]

Fight.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Hey, you in the fight. How that look, man? Hey, nah, I only want to play this week. They got XY over there, so I don't want. You know, I might not catch with two or three passes, or I might get shut out. No fight. You in the fight game.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, hey. It's a little different Nowadays, everything is magnified at the highest nowadays, so a guy take a loss, hell, he got to see that for the next month on. On these social media platforms especially. He didn't got his ass.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Well, let me ask.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

You know what? He got to look.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Let me ask you both you guys a question. Yeah. The rate these guys go and some of these guys, that's going to finish with undefeated records, will they ever be viewed better than Sugar Ray, Marvin Hacker, Roberto Duran, Salvador Sanchez? Hell, no. Henry, Henry, Henry, no.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

But also, I don't even think they worried about being viewed better than anybody. They trying to maximize their op. They're earning their earning potential every time they fight.

[Karen or Georgia (My Favorite Murder Podcast Hosts)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

What's the best way to do that? How do I maximize as much as I can during my boxing career in this small window?

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Be entertaining.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

I got to keep that.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Zero.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Be entertained.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Zero. And I got that. That, too. But everybody. Oh, you know how hard it is to be entertaining. Talk a little trash. Oh, and go out there and back it up.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

You don't want none of this. Everybody. Everybody talking about good game on social media.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Are you there, too?

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

If you're a box and everybody show up to everybody fight. Oh, I want to fight him. And that. That can be. That could be a fight. Let's make it happen. And don't nobody do nothing.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, hey. That's because in boxing, bro, you like your own self promoter.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

You know what I'm saying? Like, you got to promote yourself. So if you want Ocho fighting. Yeah. And I want that smoke I met, y' all fight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you whoop the mess out of Ocho. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Oh, whoa. Come on, man. Come on, man.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Oh, you didn't like that analogy?

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

No, I didn't know. And not at all.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

I'm gonna be out there yelling, saying, yeah, I won't walk.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Next.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. I want next.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Hey, hey, hey. You gonna be like Mr. T with Mr. T with Mr. With clubber leg. He's showing a Rocky fight. Yeah, I want it. Balboa, you're ducking me. Stop ducking. Tell everybody I'm the real.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

You know what, Uncle Joe?

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

You.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

You know what? When you think about boxing, too, there are not that many personalities. There's not that many personalities. I mean, very, very, very polar. There are no polarizing figures, you know, that are entertaining when it comes to the mic. I think Adrian Broner might have been our last one. So all the fighters right now that are undefeated, they have to protect that 0 for 1, for earning potential, being the A side. And if you. If. If you don't have that polarizing figure or that entertaining aspect that you bring to the fight game, you're not. You're not a draw.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Yeah, if.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

If you're not a draw, you can't take those chances. You can lose a fight or two if you're a draw and everybody coming to see you fight no matter what.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Hey, if you not be one or two things, you either be entertaining or you can fight. But you can't be boring and not entertaining. We pick one. Because if you think about it, Tyson didn't say a whole lot. Tyson knocked folks out. And you get a guy like a Roy Jones Jr. Roy Jones was entertaining and he could fight. Thank you. So hold on.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, hold on, Uncle Joe. Let's not sleep on Adrian. Hey, Joe, let's not sleep on young Adrian.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

We see him on the back end

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

of his career when he first started. Joe.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Entertainment.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, he was home.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

He was a draw.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Even in losses. He can still sell out of arena.

[Narrator/Commercial Announcer]

Why?

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Because you don't know what the hell to expect. He's unpredictable, but it's entertaining.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

When he said. When they asked him, say, Adrian, what were you thinking in there? He's like, man, I'm getting cooked.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Why y' all bs, though? Listen, y' all know them boxes, bro. They work too damn hard, man. Hey, look, them some of the most in shape athletes probably there is outside of track and field. Yeah, yeah, man, listen, you get in there playing, you want to somebody looking, take your damn head off, bro.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Three minutes seem like 10 minutes.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

I'm telling you. Look, I ain't do no sparring, but it just put being on the clock and hitting the bag and hitting the mix, man, that bad. Hey, he's like, oh, come on. And you know. You know I have floating, right?

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah,

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Man, about 45 seconds, man. My heart about to explode. He's like, come on. Yeah, well, what? Yeah, I gotta sit down, man, to keep it. So now you watch fight guys, you remember how we watch fights? Like, man, throw punches, bro. You get so tired, your brain will not tell your arms nothing.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, they give you a newfound respect for them boxes, bro.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Hell, yeah. You gotta.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

I'm telling you, man. Hey, and them arms and them hands get heavy as. I don't know what you talking about being on that phone.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Oh, hey, hey, Joe.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

And damn, you saw.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

You saw what happened to me in that fourth round when I was out there on that goddamn exhibition hey, Joe. Hey, hey, Joe. I can see the punch coming from a mile away. Because he wind, Joe. He winding up. He bought it from his hip, Joe.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Oh, man, I see that, boy. I couldn't, Joe. I couldn't. I couldn't even raise my hand, Joe.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

I. I couldn't. I couldn't get up if I wanted to, man.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

I'm like, man, my arms are on my body. Ain't no way these.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. That's when they teach you about the breathing.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Oh, yeah. Controlling you.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

That's everything.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Oh, it is. Yeah. But see, I. I've never been able to breathe correctly because I'm a guy that holds my breath, so. You know what I'm saying? I mean, if you think about it, most of the time, Ocho, you running around, you ain't breathing. You like?

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

So to try to remain calm, that's the hardest part, is doing something physical and remaining calm.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yep.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Cause at the end of the day, you got fight or flight. It's really that simple.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

It is, bro.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

I mean, somebody get after you? You like? Oh, yeah. Just let me breathe bad.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey,

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Hey. Take one breath.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

And that's why you got to be conscious of that for real. Like, them deep inhales through your nose and. And slowly exhale. I'm telling you, bro, that take you a long way in sports. I don't give a damn what sports you playing. You got to know how to control that breathing now.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

But it was. It was. It just. This is. This is what boxing is meant to be. Champions going against champions, guys fighting, guys putting a. Put it on the line, and let's go get it done. So I was very excited. I'm happy for Boots. Xander giving enough. Give him an opportunity to shine. Hey, did y' all see that? Ben Whitaker. Oh, you stand. Put it.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

He had no damn time to get to a Hell. He whooped his ass so bad, he had time to get to it.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Finally. Finally fault someone. Twitter. What is he now? Thirteen? Oh, and one. But he looked good. He looked good.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hold on. How he get a one?

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

He had a draw. He draw.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Oh, yeah, he can. I like him, bro. Hey, look, we all. They talk about his antics, okay, ojo, but yeah, don't let that boy fool you. That boy a hell of a shape, and he got some skills, man. He got some skills. I think he do all the antics, you know, for, you know, more. More visibility. You want people to really tune in and watch. He want to be a draw, but he can fight.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Guess who else has Sugar Ray Leonard. Guess who else? Muhammad Ali. What do you think? And Sugar Ray shuffling his feet.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Joe, you seen Clinton, Prince Nassim fight before?

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

I mean, one of my favorite fighters, probably to me, the most entertaining fight fighter of all time, even though his record is upside down in a sense. Emmanuel Augustus.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

The drunken master Joe.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Oh, yeah, I know you talking.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

You know what's up.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Oh, man. Hey.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, man. What? That's, that's, that's entertainment.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

But I definitely would like to see Ben Whitaker fight again. I think as he goes along, they're bringing him along at just the right pace. Eventually, he's gonna get a little stiff in competition, but by that time he'll hone. He will have honed his skills even more. And so that'll be something, something.

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[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

I hate to say it, but I

[Karen or Georgia (My Favorite Murder Podcast Hosts)]

don't trust much of anything.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

It's the rage bait.

[Karen or Georgia (My Favorite Murder Podcast Hosts)]

It feels like it's trying to divide people.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

We got clear facts.

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[Narrator/Commercial Announcer]

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[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

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[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

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But incredible innovator, right?

She says he's a, quote, very strange man, but they do get along really well.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Give us examples.

[Karen or Georgia (My Favorite Murder Podcast Hosts)]

I know they do get along intellectually and in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings and she's like, that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of like, what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy Lamarr and Billie Jean King.

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Goodbye.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Behold. Lionel Messi came off the bench in the 60th minute of Argentina's World cup group stage finale against Jordan, celebrating his return with a stunning free kick to seal a 31 victory for the reigning champions, who had already wrapped up first place in the group. His strike extended his record with the highest goal scorer in men's World cup history with 19 goals. It also broke the record for scoring in the most consecutive World cup matches at seven. Ojo is getting harder and harder for you to keep fighting for your guy.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

No, no, no, no.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

I'm good. I know you hanging in there, but I'm saying you make it hard and harder.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, listen, listen. Messi is who he is, Uncle Joe.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

He's one of those that, that, that when it comes to those who love him, they have the facts and opinions and, and the stats to back up why they love him. And I'll be the first to say, one who is a, a, in a football enthusiast, that Messi is phenomenal. What he's Done for the game. You know, being able to watch him and holding your breath anytime the ball is at his feet and watch him dribble through everybody. You know what? I don't feel like driven through everybody. I can process information and be two or three steps ahead of everybody else on the field and know where you're going to be at before I even pass the ball. I enjoy. I get it. I understand what I'm watching. But again, despite what he's done throughout his career and even still doing now on the World cup stage at 30, I don't even know how old he is. He's older. But. But being able to do it and dictate games at his age, I think message 38 he is.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

I think so.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

I ain't want to be disrespectful. That's why I said 30 something.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Yeah, I'm almost certain.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, but messy. Hey, Messy boy. Hey.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

39.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

39. That's crazy. And the funny thing about it, too, right, is half the people arguing.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Two days before mine, it was the 24th.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Oh, oh, so he just turned 39?

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

39. Yes.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, that's crazy, Joe. Hey, when, When. When he was introduced, I forgot what year it was. I forgot what game it was. He came on and I was watching, but it was. It was football season when he was playing in Barcelona. He introduced him very, very young. I was able to go and see him play later on after the season ended, obviously. You know, I used to fly back and forth, Joe, after the season went in, yeah, go to Real Madrid, then go to Barcelona, meet all the players, go to Madrid, go to Barcelona. And so do I. I mean, I be arguing with people. And I've been watching this dude damn near 20 years, Joe.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, 20.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

20 years. That's crazy.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

But he just makes it look so effortless.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Oh, yeah, you make it look easy, bro.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

I'm like, come on, man. Damn. I mean, they say soccer hard, how you come in just like that, then just kick and the ball in the damn net.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, hey, some. Some. Sometimes, bro, the pace that some guys play it, I don't give a damn what you do. You can't speed them up. They play at their own pace, and they make the game look easy as. I don't know what. You know what I mean? And that's kind of how it is for messy. It's like the game is just so easy for him. One minute he'll lure you to sleep, next minute, his ass gone.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Bingo.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's a Good one.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

He. He. He got that. You know, them. It just. Look, he just. God blessed him. Some people, like God say, you meant to do this. I don't know what his other talents. I don't know if he can shoot pool. I don't know if he can shoot a basketball. I don't know if he can play table tennis. But, man, that joker left foot is magical. Yeah, it's surgical.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

It is.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

And like I said, some people, all they can do is what God gave them the ability to do is to do that very well. Now, some people, like, hey, you look at a guy like a. Mookie bets, Mookie Best, might be the best all around athlete I've ever seen as far as shooting pool, rolling dice, shooting the basketball, throwing the football, bowling Mookie Betts. I put Mookie bets against anybody, man.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Listen, I did. I did a bowling event with him about a year ago. Uncle Ocho. Yeah, they had that man bowling down there on his own lane. He up there bowling 280s. And yes, it ain't the highest at 300. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Right?

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

He gifted. Shoot a basketball. He could d. I mean, he's. He's phenomenal. Play all the positions. He could be a Gold Glove at every position, probably other than pitcher, but he could play third base, short second, first center, right, left. He can play every position. And he could be. He would be a Gold Glove at every position other than pitcher. That's how good he is.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

He's serious. He's serious. He's serious.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

He nice. He nice.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Messi, man. And what you call it? Man, they screwed Iran.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Iran had.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

We about to go to the. They got the dude offside.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Come on, man, let that man go. They got enough going on.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, hey, Joe. And I. I said, and I say it again, boy, Messi is the greatest gift that he gave to the beautiful game. Now, without listening, some people say he's the goat. That's cool. Hey, Joe, sometimes you got two fine women, right?

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

And the one on the left, you know, is messy.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Fine. She can do no wrong.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

She's perfect in everybody else's eyes. Okay, but the one on the right, you like her better.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Even though the one on the left, to everybody else, seems to be perfect, flawless, do no wrong. Yeah, but it's something about that one over there on the right.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

I just. I just like something about her, the way she carry herself.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

She walking the heels.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Is my page the only one showing up since you Notice since we talked about Cape Verdeans, what keeps showing up on your Explorer page?

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

K. Verde. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Oh, and my page blocked. Block the other women outside.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Come on, bro. You can't like that, Ocho.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Nah, it's like. It's like. It's like a parental advisory.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

You can't live like that, bro.

[Karen or Georgia (My Favorite Murder Podcast Hosts)]

Huh?

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

You can't live like that.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Well, then I already.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

I already know what's on unexplored page. I already know where he. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

I've been. I've been trying to get Jordan to do a reset on my Explore page.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, hey. I don't even. Hey, John, honestly, I don't know how to get to Explore page. I don't. I'm not really good.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Hey, just cut. Just cut what you call them on and hit that center button. It'll go right to it.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah. Hey, what's wrong. What's wrong with being on the Explore page, though? I don't understand it. It's a bad thing or something.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

I mean, that's the menu, Joe.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

That's the what?

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

The menu.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Oh, I ain't ordering from. I'm just looking. I ain't ordering from them.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

You can't. Oh, Joe told me. I just call you to. Just call you to. You can't read the video. I say, hey, you ever been like, you know what? As a matter of fact, let me switch that. Instead of getting that steak, let me get. Let me get the chicken and let me get the. Let me get the. The lobster, Mac and cheese.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

See, the problem is I. I don't. I don't be trying to. I don't sneak and be on the Explore page or nothing like that. You know, I'll be on the Explore page sitting right next to my lady. Look, let me tell you something, man. Let me tell you something. Don't be trying to sneak and do nothing. You always get caught doing something. You know what I mean?

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

I'm just. I don't be on Explorer pay, but it just be. I'm like, well, hold on. I wasn't looking for this.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, hey, Joe, I'mma try that, but

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

I'll be on the plane and people trying to like, what are you. What are you. What are you watching, man? You don't get out my damn phone, talk about what I'm looking at. None of your badness. I should have told him to try that.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Joe.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, hey, listen, listen, listen. You got a bunch of fitness. Fitness. IG model.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Cause you in the fitness yourself, so

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

you probably be looking at stuff. You want to look you know, try to learn you some new movements.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Know what you show. I get it.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Movements, huh? Okay yeah.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

What you show the they got all type of different exercises.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Oo yeah yeah.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Look we can't help nowadays that everybody in the fitness night. Damn. Every time you look around somebody everybody.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Everybody got a. Got a trying to sell a program. Everybody name got fit in their name. Allison Fit, Jennifer Fit, Monica F. Yeah.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Is what it is.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Body by Everybody got fit and body by in their name. Like damn.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey. And they hey. And they keep them body suits.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

But see, I don't even know now. I don't know what's altered. I don't know what's. Because they was filtered. I don't even know the side.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

I just automatically assume that is not your real body. So I just keep on going. Hey, let me. Let me hey, let me find something that I could. Let me sit. Let me send ask something I can. What you call it? Well, I find somebody pressing 500 times. 10 times £500 10 times.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Right.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Man, all that other stuff.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

No, no, hey, look look. No no, it's. It's a lot on there. And I don't be on. I don't be knowing what's AI and what's not. I ain't gonna lie to you. Because it'd be a lot of stuff on there to be looking fake. I'll be like hold on bro, let me just go on somebody.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

No, hey, I don't ruin it. Hey, I didn't damn near ruin your experience on being on ig. Jalen Brown had time to respond to anyone who doubts his game. Jalen Brown's trade value isn't as high around the league per Bobby Martz.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Child, please.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

I had an analyst guy tell me review Jalen Brown as the seventh best player on a team. He must be talking about the Dream Team. He must be talking about the Dream Team. 92 Dream Team 08, Dream Team 12. I knew you ain't talking about no 7 player. What team?

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Right? Ain't not Nancy. He ain't the seventh best player on OKC or San Antonio or if you

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

could if you put OKC starters San Antonio starters. Jaylen Brown is not the seventh best down player. As a matter of fact, I can make a case for Jalen Brown. He's the best two way player in all the basketball. He can legitimately guard one through four. Legit.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah. Hey, analytics messing stuff up. Analytics is messing stuff up, Joe.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

It getting out of hand.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

I got two eyes.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

It's getting out of hand.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, Uncle Joe.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

What's that?

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

I got two eyes. Well, I got one.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Yeah. One good one. That is. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey. One good one. I got sniper vision, you hear me? But even I can see where Jalen Brown is. To try to diminish his value in any way, you'd have to be an idiot. Excuse me? I don't mean no disrespect to anybody. You have to be an idiot to say he's eighth best in any goddamn.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, that's true.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Regarding basketball in general, whether defensively or

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

if you want to say seven. If you want to say he the eighth best small forward of all time. Okay, Joe, I can see that, too.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Okay. Okay, that's good.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Rod and KD and, And. And Larry Bird and, And. And, you know, Dr. J. Okay, I will concede that, but you. What team? I want to know the team. I need somebody to tell me. The team that's currently constructed that if. Jay, if you take and don't trade them, I just want you to add them. So if I just add Jaylen Brown to San Antonio, he's the seventh best player. If I just know, sir. If I add Jaylen Brown to the Knicks, he the seventh best damn player on the Knicks.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

No, sir. No, sir. No, sir. I'm sorry.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

And the general manager that told you that he trying to get Jalen Brown for the cheap. He think he's sick.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, there you go. There you go.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

But I'm slicking in the oil, so you can't tell. You can't fool me. Yeah, y' all doing too much. Okay, if you don't like the man, just say that. But y' all gotta stop. Y' all gotta stop this foolishness about trying to. Within the MVP conversation for the better part of the season. He averaged 29 points, I think five rebounds, four assists, something like that. He had an outstanding season. He's a Finals mvp. He's an Eastern Conference mvp. And he's a legit two way player. I can make a case he's the best because when you look at Wimby, Wimby is more of a help defender. Jalen Brown can pick a guy up 94ft and guard him one through four.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Point two, threes and fours. Yeah, he'll struggle a little bit against the fours because they got a little size and height on him, especially size. But one through three? Yeah, he can hold his own.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Listen, man, the disrespect that this man is going through throughout this entire season, bro, is. It's ridiculous.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

That's what.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, well, his old crib that's what

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

really got him in a tailspin. Because he said, y' all have really never valued me. Y' all have never given me the credit that I deserve. And I, and I get. It's tough when you do everything. He's gotten better and better, better and better. He not no accident that make it seem like how you accidentally win Eastern Conference mvp. And a finals MVP that's over a series of games. If you want to say, you know what, he's the MVP of a game, I concede that. Excuse me, chat. But over the stretch of the games, the finals mvp, the Eastern Conference, he's an all NBA selection, he's a multiple time all star. But in his mind, and he knows it, and I think he can't really come out and say his team, but he knows who's done this.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, and if you. Jb, bro, Unc Ocho, think about this every damn time you look up your name in trade negotiations. Come on, man. I mean, damn, you know, considering the season he just had and it's like they have no value for him, man. He's the best two way player in the game, bro. Any team he goes to, I promise you that man gonna show his natural. You know what I mean? He ain't finna play with him. He ain't gonna play with him, bro. I think this is just fuel added to his fire that he's steady, you know, adding to. And I know he gonna come out next season. Hey, listen, at this point, if you're Boston, you damn. They gotta trade him, Uncle Ocho.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Oh, yeah, yeah. They've been trying to do it five years.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, it's too many rumblings, bro. Like if I'm your, if I'm one of your key guys and every time I look up, I hear my name and trades. Come on, man, you know where it's coming from.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, Joe. The funny thing about it too, Uncle Joe, has anybody that's a part of the Celtics organization come out and say and debunk these, These things that are being said? Anybody came out to his defense?

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Well, listen, Brad Stevens spoke, but hell, he didn't say he wasn't trading him and he didn't say he was trading. You know what I mean?

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

That wasn't no real quote.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it, I get it.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Come out, come out and defend me.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

What?

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Come out and come out and defend me. Don't. Don't give me that PC.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

I said that PC. That, that quote, that politically correct. You trying to give Come out and defend me.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

And see, I, I think the point I was going to make earlier is that I don't think he can take dead aim at his organization. So what you do, it's sometimes that you, you ever seen a story where somebody, he did this. Oh, he ate his cookie or he ate a, A, a bag of potato chips and they get into a fight or he end up getting shot, or he ate a piece of chicken. That wasn't what caused it. That might have been the straw that broke the camel's back. But there are several things that led up to this.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

The Celtics continuously, every time. And I said this in a nutshell. At the end of the day, it's really simple. It's not that complicated. And we're trying to put all these pieces together. This is a, this is a, this is a thousand piece one piece puzzle. The Boston Celtics view Jason Tatum more valuable than Jalen Brown. That's it. Yes.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, I agree. Yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

All of this other stuff that you want, you can say they have. And I'm not so sure they always won't. They view JT More favorable, more valuable than JB that is it. Now you can say, well, hey y', all. And, and the Boston fans always try to do this. Y' all trying to break them up? Nah. The Boston Celtics gonna break them up.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Absolutely.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Because I'm not so sure they don't want two 300 million dollar guys on the roster. They don't.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

That's what it all boils down to.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, hey. It didn't paid off already. I didn't pay. We. We had two $300 million players on the roster because we wanted to win the championship. We got it.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Guess what happened? They won the championship. And Joe, tell them what the owners did of the Boston Celtics after they won the championship. They bought a team for 3,400 million, sold it for 6.4 billion.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

It was at his highest value.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, they gave you the two fingers and spread them. Joe.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

I'm gone.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

I'm out.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, it was at the highest value.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, hey, if we, we, we put a little into this and. You mean tell me we can get a B out of this.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

I'm gone.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

That's all I'm trying to do. I'm trying. Hey, I'm trying to, I'm trying to X my investment.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yes. Come on now.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

The magic number is 10x. But if you mean to tell me how you get. I could get 15, 20, 30x. That's it. And it's frustrating. It is frustrating. When you don't feel that you get the credit that you deserve. Excuse me, let me take that back. I hate saying deserve when you feel you don't get the credit that you've earned. He's earned every accolade that he's got. He's got himself better. He's a better shooter. He's a better all around player. He can facilitate if he has to, but he's a phenomenal, phenomenal player. And he says, why can't people. Why can't people appreciate me?

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Right? But he's, he's in one of those situations, people gonna like you or they're not. And obviously everyone most of the time, especially when it comes to the Boston Celtics. They're going. They're going to defer to Jason Tatum.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

That's it. He's like, I don't care about y' all don't like me outside. Ocho. You don't care if don't nobody like you. But Cambodia gotta like me, right?

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, come on now.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Cambodia gotta like me. All that other stuff. Oh, he ain't that cute. If he didn't have money, he wouldn't be attracted. But damn it. I got it.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

But hold on, hold on. Hey, hey.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Too.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

And add a little, add a little salt, pepper on top of that. I look good. I got money and I ain't spending it, so you really gotta like me. Yeah, nothing coming up out of my pocket, Joe, you hear me?

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

As a matter of fact, she gonna have to spoil you a little bit. Any man.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, hey, Joe, you got to show me something.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hello. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. And I ain't talking about no damn cologne and no draw.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

You got to show him something. He. Preferably on the first night.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, that's okay. That Ocho, I don't get down.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, what we waiting for? Because I want. I wanna. I wanna know what I'm signing up for when I'm gonna buy a car and I test drive it. I don't, I don't tell the people at the dealership. Listen, I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna wait two, three weeks, you know, and then I'm gonna come back and test drive it. No, I'm just driving right there on the spot. I need to know before I make this investment.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Oh, you test drive. I. I've never test driving a car. Test drove in a car.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Y. I go look, hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Oh, you just go buy yours.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

I already. I. I don't, I don't scoped it out.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, okay, okay, okay.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

You lay. Are you laying in the weed?

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, he laying in the weeds. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

I ain't driven it.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

But, hey, I did everything. I checked the specs out on it. I need to know what I'm getting. I know the specs. Oh, okay. You got a horsepower. Okay. Get this gas mileage on, on the road, this verse. I mean, in the city versus highway. Okay. Stopping power, acceleration okay. 6, 5, 6, 6 comfortably. Okay. Air condition seat.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Cruise control tiptronic. Oh, Parker seat. Yeah. I want this one.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, I, I like, I like everything you just said, right? But think about everything you just, you know, you just named, huh? What happens if you get behind that steering wheel and even with all those, those wonderful things that you just named, right, that you know them specs are you scoped out and it don't drive like you thought it should.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

The, the, the, the, the suspension, the suspension ain't hitting right.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Hey, I want to knock the suspension out of line. All them. I did that job like, all that stopping to start that I did. I've been reading the suspension out of line. No, not the case. No. I just play it, Chad. I was just playing. See, you see how they get me? They be teaming. They think they slick tonight.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, that's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good comeback.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

That's a good comeback. But you, you know, I, I, I just think the thing is, and it's, it's frustrating because here the guy and he's looking at it because he's like, when you go to a, a, A, A, A historic franchise like the Celtics, and you go in that building, you see those numbers up there you dream of up there?

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah. Yes, yes.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

And, and he's like, he's thinking, how do I get, how do I get my number up there? Okay, I do this. I do X, Y and Z. Hey, I'm become a good player. Help get us a couple check. Get at least one. You know, I'm an all NBA selection. I'm an all star player. I'm a fight. Okay? Maybe one day I'll get an opportunity. If I have a family, I can bring my wife and kids. I can bring my grandkids. Look at your daddy, look at your papa number up there.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

And he said, y', all, y' all have never, never loved me as much as I've loved you. Sometimes that's the hardest.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

When love is not reciprocated.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

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[Karen or Georgia (My Favorite Murder Podcast Hosts)]

I turned off news altogether.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

It's the rage bait.

[Karen or Georgia (My Favorite Murder Podcast Hosts)]

It feels like it's trying to divide people.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

We got clear facts.

[Karen or Georgia (My Favorite Murder Podcast Hosts)]

Maybe we can calm down a little.

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[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

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[Karen or Georgia (My Favorite Murder Podcast Hosts)]

do you know the symptoms of moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnea, or osa, in adults with obesity? They may be happening to you without you knowing. If anyone has ever said you snored loudly or if you spend your days fighting off excessive tiredness, irritability and concentration issues, it may be due to osa. OSA is a serious condition where your airway partially or completely collapses during sleep, which may cause breathing interruptions and oxygen deprivation. Learn more at don't sleep on osa.com this information is provided by Lily, a medicine company. Hi, it's Karen and Georgia from My favorite Murder.

We cruised around LA in the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and dove into the fascinating life of actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr.

Want the full story?

Take a listen. Hetty she starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon. Do you know a lot about him?

I mean, I watch the Aviator, so

I know everything Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed me to know about him.

But incredible innovator, right?

She says He's a quote, very strange man. But they do get along really well.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Give us examples.

[Karen or Georgia (My Favorite Murder Podcast Hosts)]

I know they do get along intellectually. And in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings. And she's like, that doesn't make sense. And. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of, like, what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode, spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy and Lamar and Billie Jean King.

Presented by the Hyundai Ioniq 5.

Goodbye.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

That hurt.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

It is.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

It is because he's. He. He doesn't bother anybody.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

He.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

He's great in the community. And.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

And.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

And they make it seem like the man out there trying to cause a revolution, like he's trying to call the uprising.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

You know what? He's an easy target because he's so vocal.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yep.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Yes, for sure.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Absolutely easy target. Now, if he. If he didn't say anything, if he was quiet, you know, I mean, anything you all say, especially the outside noise, they're probably going one ear and out the other. But you say something about me, and they know he gonna fire back. So whatever. What they keep doing, keep saying it.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

But I think the thing is him, he looks at it like we seem to. We the only. We the only ones that have something to have something to complain about. Our counterparts, they never had to fight for anything. They had the right to vote. They had the right to get house. They had the right to marry who they wanted. We had to fight for stuff like that. They always had the right to vote. We didn't have that. So he's look, he's looking at like, I gotta fight. I've got to be divorced. And it.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

And the.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Shut up and dribble only works when you're saying something that they don't like. We don't need to talk about who they are, but we know, because I see. I see a lot of guys tweet stuff that they. So they never say shut up and dribble. They support it and they retweet it.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, this is. It's unfortunate for jb, man, because. Yeah, I can see. You know, obviously they came up short last year, but due to injury.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

For real.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Because when JT came back, everybody had picked him to come out the East. If we just keeping it 100. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Yes. I believe they'd have been Favored to come out to East. They'd have been favored.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Yeah. They absolutely would have been favored.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah. And it's like, with that duo, bro, you ain't gonna find, like, to be able to compete with the Knicks in the Eastern Conference.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

It's.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

It's gonna be hard to do that. You get rid of this, man.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

You know what I mean? Because you're not. Because you're not getting Greek free now. You know what I mean? So whatever you bring over there, I'm gonna keep it real. I can't see him being better than jb, but I also can't see it. I can't see Boston keeping Jalen Brown going through all this turmoil that he's going through right now. Name being in every damn conversation in the book every day. Like, if I'm him, I'm like, damn, they really don't mess with me like that.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

You know what, guys? We use a lot of an analogy. Be it man or woman, there's only so many times that you're going to hear about your partner stepping out before you move on.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

It's really. That's. They got to be some truth to it. He. And he knows it. He knows it. And. And. And I was talking on. On the net today, and it was like this and that. I said, at the end of the day, Shannon, you know what he meant by what he said? You. It doesn't matter what I think. It doesn't matter what Ocho or what Joe. What did the organization. How did they perceive what he said? This was his most fun year. How did they perceive it? Forget Shannon. Forget Stephen A. Forget anybody else. That's Alfred. An analysis or critique of what he said. Forget all of that. What did the Celtics organization think about what he said? Because at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. It does not. And people try to make Y' all give us far too much credit. Y' all kept talking about it, and they traded the man. Man, they don't listen to us. They don't listen to us. It only. What. What does your employer think about what you said or your actions? He didn't have actions. He said this was his most fun year. I get what he said. Given the circumstances, nobody had us to do this. It was fun for me to go out there and be in a lead role because you didn't think I could lead. Y' all always told me that I was the second best player on the team, but I just showed you, even without the lead dog, that you. You guys say Jason Tatum is. And Jason Tatum is a phenomenal player. He's a multiple time All Pro. I mean, excuse me, all NBA. A multiple time all Star. Two Olympics. He's like, hold on, y', all, Y', all. Y' all just blatantly disrespect me. Y' all didn't have two Olympic teams. I don't want a championship. I don't want an mvp. I don't want Easter conference and a finals mvp. I've been an all NBA and All Star, and I can't get on one of them. And we got guys that's on this thing and ain't been one of those, let alone three.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

It's crazy.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Yes, yes. And you know, I love Ocho, where people say, man, if I was making X amount of dollars, it wouldn't bother me. Your boss, Your boss pay your salary. And then y' all get mad at you. You get mad.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

It's still be the same.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Of course it does. But see, they think it's kind of like. Because here's the thing, you have to look at it. Of course, Joe, if somebody say, well, hey, oh, Joe, not a billion dollars, you will say, yeah, hell yeah. I'll let you say whatever you want to say about me for a billion dollars. But you got to take it in the context of what you make. Now, you let anybody talk to you any kind of way. It's the same thing. I said, well, when we talk, had a conversation about LeBron cookies. I said, okay, you brought your food to work and your ball stored in the trash. You go like, oh, it's cool. I. I ain't really care about it anyway. I said, man, y' all need to stop lying.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Shoot me, dog.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Stop lying. Y' all get mad if you got a roommate and he eats your food. So you.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yes, sir.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

You. You. You worked hard or you paid for something, it. You bring it, they disregard it and you cool with it. I said, man, y' all not lying. Now, I get it. Some of y' all don't like LeBron. But y' all gotta stop lying. Ain't nobody gonna be okay with somebody throwing their food away in the trash if you're not. I know I'm not. I ain't finna hold you. Nope.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, no.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

And people. And first of all, you don't play with people food. If you black. Anybody that's black, you already know. What don't you do Play with people food. They food and money. Money and money. About the kids.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

That's the top three.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, hey, I'm talking about. We'll act like you are. Hey, when you talking about don't mess with somebody, you mess with them three right there. Hey, well, we act like we never. We never know you a day in our life.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Don't play like that.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

You'll be 6ft playing with the wrong one now.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Yeah, yeah, because you know, hey. Because, hey, they. I was. I was meal prepping when it wasn't even in vogue. Boy, I wish somebody would. I wish some. I wish somebody will eat my boy, please. Like my grandma said, boy, to act a pure, pure damn fool. Don't, Don't. Don't bother people stuff. Don't. First of all, don't bother the people. But I. I just don't know. I don't know what it is about Jalen Brown. What is not to like? Because you heard all the stories, people didn't think he was gonna be a good basketball player because he was too smart. He was too interested in other things. So they say. That's what the report said.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah. And you know that. You know that's frowned upon, huh? And Joe.

[Narrator/Commercial Announcer]

Yeah?

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

What's that?

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Having things you like. Hey, when. When you play. When you play a sport and you wanted the best at said sport, having a life outside of that sport and having other things that you like, having other hobbies is somewhat frowned upon a little bit.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Oh, you're right.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

In this era that we in, fellas, I mean, this is what it is. You know what I'm saying? Like, everybody. Live streaming, everybody got a. A platform that they can speak on nowadays. So it's. It's a lot different than what it. Than what we accustomed to.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

And the.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

So, hey, you say something about a cat now, you best believe his ass.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Platform or somebody that got a platform.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

And get back at. It's a different time now. It's a different time now, guys. Because a lot of times guys would. Guys would bite their tongue. I bit my tongue a lot, but I was like, you know what? Hey, I'm here. Let me do my job. Hey, I ain't gonna be here to. I. I ain't gonna be here forever. And keep it moving.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, right.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Long as you ain't bothered my. Ish. Long as everybody keep their hands to themselves, we cool, right?

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

No, we.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

We cool. Ain't no. Hey, all that. All talk as loud as you want to. Everybody keep their hands to themselves. You ain't talking about nobody, wife or somebody, girlfriend and stuff like that. Hey, you don't Bother people. Ish, man. Hey, I don't see if somebody get to fight you. Hey, he gonna take the man brush and brush his pubic hair. What?

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hold on his hair. Wait, hold on. His brush.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Come on, come brush. Come on, Come on, man.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Everybody. Everybody don't play like that.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

That's what I try to tell people. People to my. Oh, you are. Well, people don't play. See, they don't got to the point, Najo. People play entirely too much.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yep.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

I grew up in a time people didn't play at all. My grandfather used to tell my brother, my boy, grown men don't play. He was. He was. He was. He always told us that.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah,

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

man, they play too much. Play. Nah, man, I don't play like that. Yeah, I saw a dude about to get in the fight. You know the old say, hey, man, how your. How your wife and my kids? What? Yeah, dude. Walter Tiffany Brown. Say it again. Don't play with me like.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Say it again.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Huh? Wait, how you say it? How is your wife and my kids?

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey,

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

but Everybody. But everybody. YouTube. You too emotional. You too. This. Y'.

[Karen or Georgia (My Favorite Murder Podcast Hosts)]

All.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

See, y'.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

All.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

I. I don't know how y' all do. I. Like I said, I really haven't been in the. I go nine to five or I have to punch a clock or something like that. Oh. So I don't know what the etiquette is. I really don't. I. I really don't know what the etiquette is. All I know is that I was raised. If y' all want to say raised. They say you raised chicken. You raised livestock. The way I was reared is that you leave people ish and you leave people alone. If you do that, you won't have no problem.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah, I agree with you.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

I don't care enough. Man, you. Hey, man, you heard such a No, I didn't hear and I don't care to hear. Is it feeding me? Is it financing me? Is it effing me?

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Take your time.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

I care about all that. Then it need to feed me, finance me, or F me before me, for I care. Now, if it's doing one of those. Yeah, you might have my attention. Now if you get all three of them, you got my undivided attention.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, that's a good one.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

You know what? At the end of the day, I think it's going to be a situation the best thing for both parties.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Oh, it's got. It's got to. It's got to where it's at right now. It's got to Separate. It's gonna happen.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

I. I don't like the fact that Jalen Brown's not in control of where he goes. No. Well, going from Boston, you would think. And hope even though he's won a chip already, he want to go somewhere he could at least contend.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

I think it's hard for him to come back to Boston and have to look these people in their face and they have to act like they really love him and want him to be around. Well, hell, you've been shopping me all damn summer, Judas. Come on, man.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

God already knew he was going to take them 20 pieces. The 20 pieces.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Those shillings didn't, man.

[Narrator/Commercial Announcer]

He knew.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Didn't, man.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

That man kissed him. Jesus should have elbowed him right in his face. Look, I said I look. And he brought the crib. So I'm always gonna root for anybody from the crib, but enough is enough now. Yeah, this is what he said. Analytics nowadays are used to discredit and control narrative. Roll ball out. And none of these guys better than me on both end. Who does work for nobody has won more combined regular season and playoff games since I entered the league 10 years ago. Analytics have our ruining games. We played AI hoops.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

He ain't lie. Yeah, hey, he got a point. He damn sure ain't lying.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

But now you see why he's such an easy target, Joe. Yeah, but so this, this keeps the storyline going on. All he's doing is adding fuel to the fire.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

But he ain't. He ain't lying though, Ocho.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Oh, yeah, he. Oh, he telling the truth. He's the basketball player. He understands the analytic people, Joe. What they do. They took over the numbers. They watching stuff. They don't know what the hell they talking about half the time. They do. It works. Analytics, you know, it's changed. Analytics is one of the reasons why the game has changed now. Analysis. One of the reasons why the game is played the way it's played in different sports.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

It is, man.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Basketball, football, they going for it on 4th and 20. Well, analytics said we got it. And like I said, we cross. If we cross the four, you know, the 40 yard line, it might be four to 15, but there's a chance we can get it.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Man. Damn. Analytics. Yeah.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Created by people that couldn't actually play the game. So I gotta find a way to become involved in the game, Ocho.

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

Yeah. So you saying a three pointer and a layup or a dunk, those. Those are the best shots in the game. Damn that. That's a damn lie.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Right?

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

You can't tell me the. Oh, oh. Cause they shooting twos and we shooting threes. We supposed to win. Damn that you look, in these finals, the game was dominated in between the three point line, you know, and they're 15 to 17 foot area. Boy, bro, you know what I mean? Where you had a game, winning basket, tough, tough shot makers, tough shot takers. That's what a game is. Won always. It's always been like that. But they didn't got so high and mighty on these damn three pointers and a lob threat, a dunk, a layup. It's like, bro, you. You trying to take away the best part of the game, which magicians work at, you know what I mean? When you watch guys like when Kobe used to play, you watch Kyrie. How these guys operate in the mid range, bro. Shea, how they able to get. Come on, man.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

Hey, hey. Ocho know how to get to it.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

Now they want you. Somebody run you off the three point line. They want you to let him go by then back, back past the three point line to shoot it right when

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

you got a clean wide open.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

I gotta walk in 15 footer. Now you want me to let him fly by and step back the 22 or 23. Man, get out of my face.

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

And you know, you know who need to be in charge of analytics? Who Based on depending on the sport. People that actually played the sport. People that actually play the sport need to be the ones in charge of analysts that understand the game.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

They're getting astrophysics and they getting mechanical engineer. They're getting all these guys, the numbers

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

guys don't know nothing about it.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

You see? You see what?

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

They don't know nothing about it.

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

What you think AI is

[Uncle Joe (Nightcap Co-host)]

artificial intelligence?

[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

They tried to put everything. They tried everything. It's like, okay, we gonna plug. We can just put this in and it'll give us out what we should do, right?

[Joe Johnson (Nightcap Co-host)]

There's only one AI Allen Iverson. That's it.

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[Karen or Georgia (My Favorite Murder Podcast Hosts)]

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We cruised around LA in the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and dove into the fascinating life of actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr.

Want the full story?

Take a listen. She starts dating Howard Hughes and in fact she helps him design a faster plane. So she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of what the two would look like as a plane and that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy and Lamar and Billie Jean King.

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[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

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[Joe (Host of Nightcap)]

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