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Shaquille O'Neal
Everybody knows Shaq, but off camera, he's
Shannon Sharpe
just a regular guy.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I turned off news altogether.
Shannon Sharpe
I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people. If we got clear facts, maybe we could calm down a little.
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Shannon Sharpe
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Joe Johnson
What you mean as a coach or as a player? Hold on.
Shannon Sharpe
Cheryl Miller on NBC today said, right now is frustration. And unfortunately, it's boiling over and it's being seen. It's one thing to have it behind closed doors, but when it spills over, when the coach has to say, basically, hey, you know what, Caitlin? Enough is enough. This is too disruptive. In or out, Take a seat.
Joe Johnson
I.
Shannon Sharpe
Listen.
Joe Johnson
I. I respect. I respect coaches like that, bro. When you can challenge your best player and your best player responds. I ain't talking about. In a way to where it seem like they got an attitude and they don't want to do it, but, you know, maybe you're right. Let me lock in, you know what I mean? Like, I ain't. The back and forth is not a bad thing to me, fellas. You know, it happens from time to time when you police some players. This is what comes with it. And if you can't police your best player, bro, then it's always going to be a problem.
Shannon Sharpe
But the problem is, Joe, this is not isolated. It's every night. She doesn't play defense, and she got. So why are you trying to draw up a play offensively? Guard your man defensively, bro. Look, y' all know me. I've been. I've been on Caitlyn. I've been in Caitlin Clark's corner. But enough is enough. Now, I'm tired of her behavior. I'm tired of the shoving. I'm tired of the elitist. I'm tired of the entitlement. Enough is enough. Play basketball. Yeah, she's not holding up her end. And I love Stephanie White for this. It was a very similar situation where LeBron was trying to draw him something when Tyloo first got the job. And Tyler said, I got this right.
Joe Johnson
Gotta let him know who in charge.
Shannon Sharpe
Ain't nothing wrong with a little passion. Where is that passion on defense? Y' all say she got passion. Where is the passion on defense? Because guess what? Everybody doing what they doing, Joe. Attacking her.
Joe Johnson
Yep.
Shannon Sharpe
The same thing they do with all scores when you don't play, Luca. The best score in the NBA. Tell me where they go.
Joe Johnson
That's how you offset it. Make the ass work on defense.
Shannon Sharpe
You think you.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, hey. You think you finna just come down? Go ahead. Huh? You think you finna just come down? Average 2530 points a night and ain't gonna have no pushback on defense. We finna make your ass God.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
What we gonna make you work, man.
Joe Johnson
We gonna wait. We gonna seek you out every time.
Shannon Sharpe
I love the fact that, Joe, that you're on here and you get it. What? A lot of times I don't think people get. And people like, oh, I love passion. If your coach can't coach you, you might as well just go ahead and get them up out of there. Yeah, you got it. Won't be long. Because if your best player keeps disrespecting you, they're not gonna respect you either.
Joe Johnson
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
The only reason it worked in New England no chose was why. Because Coach Belichick got the ultimate respect from Tom Brady. If your best player doesn't respect you, you might as well just go and get you another coach.
Joe Johnson
Absolutely right. I totally agree.
Shannon Sharpe
Every night is something. She's pushing somebody, she's selling somebody. She doing something. And I've given you the benefit of the doubt. And I understand you missed last year. And you. You. Hey, you trying to get your rhythm back. But enough now. Come on now. You too good of a player. But you can't just play one end of the court, right? And don't show your coach up.
Joe Johnson
If you want to be passionate, that's the worst thing.
Shannon Sharpe
Be passionate on both ends of the court.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Seems like you want to be passionate when it draw up this place. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I can't draw up no play. Hell, you getting cooked on the end. I draw up a defensive play, make that one work. That's the play I want you.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah. Hey, the thing about trying to show your coach up, bro, like, especially in the NBA, if you got 30, 32 other teams watching, man, ain't nobody want to deal with that, bro. Don't nobody want to deal. Nobody want to deal with no damn headache. Would you say tolerance over. Over productivity, production. They only gonna deal with so much, bro. They only gonna deal with so much.
Shannon Sharpe
And the problem is Ocho and Joe and you know this is that when the production flip you gone. They don't let. They don't let that be great and been a problem. They don't let them stay long. Are they waiting for them? They wait for that moment just a little. Oh, yeah, he came step out of there.
Joe Johnson
Got the guy to get him out of here. Yeah, absolutely right.
Shannon Sharpe
Just enough. Enough. I've seen enough. I've watched enough games. It's always something. She pushing players. She's stepping on Players, you won't catch the right young lady. You'll catch the right one on the wrong day.
Joe Johnson
Yep.
Shannon Sharpe
My grandma used to tell me I'm. My mother said, okay, y' all gonna catch me. Y' all gonna catch the right one, but it's gonna be the wrong day.
Joe Johnson
Absolutely. Hey, you gotta take some accountability. Yes, I know we talk about that a lot, but she has. She has to accept that part, bro. You know, showing up your coaching, it ain't gonna be a good look. And. And you got your teammates, bro, who gonna look at you different. Now, they may not tell you, but they're gonna look at you different because,
Shannon Sharpe
yeah, they understand you kind of been coddled since you got here.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Everybody is. Has bent over kind of backward to appease you.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Tell us all the time, boy. Don't be ugly. Make people don't like you.
Joe Johnson
Facts. Fact.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, I don't like them either.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, she got. She gotta fix that Arkin Ojo.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. I mean, you know, and for me, I mean, I hear both of you talking, and I.
Joe Johnson
It.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
To me, it's not enough. It's not enough. You understand who she is. You understand how she plays the game. And a player showing passion in that magnitude, in that moment. I don't think she means that.
Shannon Sharpe
A. What they called it when you did it.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, well, you know how I am when I do it. You know that. And you know why?
Shannon Sharpe
It's passion.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Because I was. You want to win, it's passion. But I'm a repeat offender, and I don't have the leeway to be able to do it.
Shannon Sharpe
She. She's a repeat offender. I. Ocho, you need to watch. Watch your. I need you. I need you to do me a favor. The next time they play, watch your game and watch your antics on the court.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right. I see. I see the highlight sometimes.
Shannon Sharpe
Watch it. Watch. Watch. I. I watch.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right, right, right.
Shannon Sharpe
And chat. Y' all know I've been one of her biggest proponents. I've been in her corner. I've been a champion.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't tolerate this kind of behavior.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right. So you want. You wanted to take just the.
Shannon Sharpe
I wanted to play. I want to let the coach coach. She already got one coach. Fired the first coach. She got a fight. She was fired. Stephanie White just got there and they took. They gave. They gave the Aces all they could handle. And. And they didn't have Caitlyn Clark. Caitlin Clark is not playing any defense. They're attacking her.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, she gotta tighten up.
Shannon Sharpe
At some point in time for a coach to be worth his or her merit, you gotta draw a line.
Joe Johnson
Yep.
Shannon Sharpe
You gotta draw a line.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
The players will run over you. They will. More times than not you. There's a reason why we got laws and rules and regulations. People ain't gonna do it right. They won't. That's just in people's nature. More time. Barney Porter used to tell us all the time, he said, boy, given a choice to do right or wrong, and there's no one there to hold us accountable for the wrong, how many people do you think gonna do right? And how many people you think gonna do wrong?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, depending on what the wrong is, I'm sure trying to get away with something.
Shannon Sharpe
That's my point. See, people, when I say wrong, people always go to the Both the most egregious. Yeah, okay. What about speeding? If you knew the police wasn't under there, how fast would you go in that 55? If you knew the cars weren't behind you and they didn't see you litter. If you could walk into the store and shoplift and get something. Given a choice to do right or wrong, we know what the rights are. We know what the wrongs are.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, Joe, what's up? I'm gonna steal some Haynes underwear now.
Joe Johnson
You gonna steal some.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Some Haynes underwear?
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
It ain't gonna get caught. Some Haynes underwear and Haynes tank tops?
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
With me, boy.
Shannon Sharpe
No, I ain't stealing them draws.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm just saying. I'm just saying me, You don't shop at Target.
Shannon Sharpe
What the hell you think? I get deodorant and toothpaste and mouthwash, so we will.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You get. Where you get your. Your undies from? See you Bougie. You Bougie. Who is that?
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah, that Bougie.
Shannon Sharpe
Lululemon.
Joe Johnson
That's what he's talking about.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. You don't get. You don't get your
Shannon Sharpe
white draw. Since I was probably 30 years old who wear white draws?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I wear. I don't wear a white draw. I wear briefs. From. From Target.
Joe Johnson
The white ones?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
No, the multi pack. The multi color 10 pack.
Shannon Sharpe
Black. Black.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
They black group. They black, blue and gray.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, man. Target don't play. See, hey, I don't really shop at Target.
Shannon Sharpe
I do shop at Target. I get. I get a shower gel, I get mouthwash, I get toothpaste. I buy. I bought like 15 packs. Oral B. Toothbrushes, four packs. So I got like 65 toothbrushes. I go through a toothbrush like every two weeks. Damn, I thought.
Joe Johnson
Hold on, hold on. So the boycott that's off of Target.
Shannon Sharpe
We.
Joe Johnson
We back at Target now. I.
Shannon Sharpe
Man, I gotta get stuff out of here, man. Y' all live in the storm. Y' all even have me out here funky.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hold on. It was a boycott job, huh? It was a boycott.
Joe Johnson
Oh, man, come on, come on, man.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Wait. When it started.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, hey. I'm gonna hit my people. I'm gonna hit my people at. I'm gonna hit the walls, man, the Walmart. I'm gonna get us a sponsorship on here from Walmart. That way, you know, we, we, we get.
Shannon Sharpe
I got, like I say, I. And I buy in bulk anyway. I got like, I probably got about 10 things of mouthwash, probably got about 12, 14 tubes of toothpaste. Got about 60 toothbrushes. Got about. Damn, I'm out of shower gel.
Joe Johnson
You got, you got.
Shannon Sharpe
I buy enough shower gel to last me for a year.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, hey, Joe. Why you need to tell me that, Joe? I ain't know that.
Joe Johnson
Oh, man. Oh, Joe. What rock you been hiding under?
Shannon Sharpe
Where you been, Joe?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You know I live under no rock. But man, I be. I'd be right here. But all right, I'm gonna switch to Walmart then.
Shannon Sharpe
But they, you know, they all tell
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
they got the same hanes at Walmart.
Shannon Sharpe
I ain't got. I mean, I hadn't brought no. I remember, man, we used to buy fruit alone. You watch them joker one time, the waistband. So goddamn. Oh, you gotta buy a kid size draws and just wash them and then they fit perfect. If you buy one of your wayside ear draws and wash them.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, it's a wrap. It's a rap.
Shannon Sharpe
Made him draw ride could nobody back then, back in the day, man, you getting them fruit and lose.
Joe Johnson
Ain't nothing worse, boy. Ain't no worse than having some loose. Ain't nothing worse than that, fellas. I'm sorry, boy, as a kid, boy, nothing worse than that,
Shannon Sharpe
man. You know, you drank, you already know what's gonna happen. You buy the fruit of the Lou, boy, by grandma said, boy, take them Kenny draws back. I like granny. We gotta get them small. So you wash it one time, boom, they gonna be perfect. You basically, if you're a 32, you better get you a size 28 draws.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm glad you put me on game, Joe.
Joe Johnson
I wait. Clearly it's over with Ojo Shoot.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
No, it ain't. What the chat say where I've been at.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to tell you.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I mean, hey, you know, I. What about Amazon? I get my socks from Amazon.
Joe Johnson
You get your socks from Amazon.
Shannon Sharpe
What kind of socks?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I get, I get the, I get the crunch. The crunch. The crunch socks, Joe. They, they call Hugh, Hugh slouch. I'm sorry, not crunch.
Joe Johnson
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
They're like.
Joe Johnson
No, no,
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I got, I gotta squish them down. They, they slouch socks. They, they, they nice. I like them. They call hugh H U E. Oh,
Shannon Sharpe
no, I just Hugh slouch. I wear footies.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, See, I, I don't, I don't.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, your ankles out now.
Shannon Sharpe
I, I, I, I can't remember last time I wore socks that came above my ankles.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, I always, my ankle's too small. That's why I always with you.
Joe Johnson
Small.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Who? No, I'm 205, Uncle. You saw me in person. You see how big I done got?
Shannon Sharpe
You say you too old, but Costco said, Costco sell clothes too, right?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And I ain't getting no damn membership. You know, I must say charge for a membership.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know how much. Like, like $50.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I ain't paying no $50. I can't just walk in and buy what I want to. I don't belong there.
Shannon Sharpe
70 a year, right? Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Nah. Yeah. Hey, I ain't got pre check. You think I'm gonna buy a membership to Costco?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Or I'm getting preached. I don't know about you, but that's why you don't live, you don't live in Atlanta or la. Because if you had lived in Atlanta, la, you gonna get pre checked.
Joe Johnson
Got to.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
This is what you don't understand, Joe. If I got a fight at 11 o', clock, Joe, I'm the type show up to the airport, 9 o', clock, 9:15.
Shannon Sharpe
That still ain't gonna get you.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I gotta get, I gotta get my.
Shannon Sharpe
That ain't gonna get you through.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I get my car
Shannon Sharpe
two hours long, Ocho, and they got 40, 50 lanes. Atlanta is the biggest, busiest airport in the world.
Joe Johnson
In, in the world. Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Leave out of there, Leave out of there on a Monday or Friday if you want to. Because people leaving, going to work or they come, okay, go to show up at 11 o' clock fight, show up at 9 o' clock and see what happened to you.
Joe Johnson
That thing be thick in there, Ocho.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Buy bags clean.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey. I'll be thinking. I say, I'd be thinking, them lines be so long, sometimes I'd be like, well, I'd have been to call whoever. Hey, man, I ain't gonna make it, bro. Like, hey, hey, I didn't even know I Had anxiety until I get in that. Damn.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Joe Johnson
Do you hear me?
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't gonna tell me nothing. Joe. Hey.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, Joe. They be bothering you. You go to the airport?
Joe Johnson
I mean, it's not necessarily bothering, you know, they. They always bring up Nightcap, talking about how crazy you are. Nah, you. You right with him here. Hey, hey, but you guilty by association.
Shannon Sharpe
What about you?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, hey, hey. So, you know, they always stopping and. And ask me something about y'. All. You know what I mean? So, yeah, I get. They. They ask me quick. Every time somebody see me, they ask me something here, man. I don't know what the hell they doing here.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, dude asked me today. Dude older than me, the white dude talking about, hey, you Unc from that show? I look, I'm like, yo, bro, you said me how you would talk about. Am I Unc from the show?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Like, yeah, he telling me, hey, that was Shannon Sharp. He's the hall of Famer. I'm like, bro, you just call me. You older than me.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
The funniest thing, too, Joe, and this is the kind of reach I don't think you understand that we have is we have Nightcap, and I just left tst. I left the soccer tournament. You have to think you have. You have players that have flown from all over the world. From all over the world in Europe, Brazil, Chile, and everybody's here under one umbrella in. In rally for. For a tournament. But everybody knows about Nightcap. Everybody watches Nightcap. And it's funny. Some people. Dudes barely know English.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Nightcap. How's Unc? How's Joe doing? I'm like, how you know about Nightcap? And you live all the way.
Shannon Sharpe
The mother shows need to change their name, Ocho.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, they don't have to. They don't have to because there's only one. When you say night.
Shannon Sharpe
They already know.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Everybody knows.
Joe Johnson
They already.
Shannon Sharpe
They already know.
Joe Johnson
They already know.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, that was dope.
Shannon Sharpe
Just.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Just to hear people that they all the way in Europe, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, we love.
Shannon Sharpe
We love.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
We love y'.
Joe Johnson
All.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
So. You guys are really funny.
Shannon Sharpe
We love y', all, too. Now it's time for our everybody knows Shaq.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
i turned off news altogether.
Shannon Sharpe
I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
It feels like it's trying to divide people.
Shannon Sharpe
We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little.
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Shannon Sharpe
Let's meet at the facts.
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Shannon Sharpe
NBC News reporting for America. Final save of the evening. It's time for Q and A.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Man, I'm in. I'm in New York. I just got to New York. Well, about four hours ago now. I got my flight of six in the morning.
Shannon Sharpe
Shaquan browser said, would y' all do a nightcap out in a diamond gym? Day one Fan. Love the show.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, that's a good one. Working out.
Joe Johnson
I like it, man. That's why I've been trying to get you on, uncle. Doing what? Y'?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
All.
Shannon Sharpe
Why y' all playing to do like that?
Joe Johnson
So we can make love of them weights, baby.
Shannon Sharpe
Yo, you don't look like that, Joe. You don't lift weights like that, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Oh, boy. Hey, look, you and Ocho gonna stop playing on my top man for real talk.
Shannon Sharpe
Hold up.
Joe Johnson
Let's get in the gym. Let's see what's going on. We ain't got to get in there and go crazy and trying to match.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, no, no. I'm going crazy.
Joe Johnson
You know what I mean?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, Joe, if you get the camera rolling, I'm going crazy.
Shannon Sharpe
Joe, are you gonna go crazy with that little 225? Huh?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. Hey, that's all I need to do as long as I hit that by 12. 12, 13. Time. That's enough.
Shannon Sharpe
Been a member for a year. Been watching from the start. Keep pushing, guys. Respect. Appreciate that, man. Means a lot to us.
Joe Johnson
Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharpe
ISO oo. Who is your cartoon equivalent? Got to be Frog Horn Leghorn.
Joe Johnson
My cartoon equivalent? Oh, what you got? What's your cartoon equivalent?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Little Bill.
Joe Johnson
Little Bill?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You don't know who Little Bill is?
Joe Johnson
No. Who is that, man?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Let me see if I can. Hey, yeah, yeah. Hey, yeah. Little Bill. Hey, maybe the Chat. The Chat, the Chat. Know who Little Bill is? You know, 80. They used to call me Little Bill when I was growing up, right?
Joe Johnson
Yeah. They called me the Tasmanian Devil.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Why?
Joe Johnson
I caused hell.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Lord. See, there you go. See What I'm saying, you don't get
Joe Johnson
around Ocho so long I call. I cause hell.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I mean, where you cause hell at?
Joe Johnson
You gonna see? You gonna see? You gonna see?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Wait, how I'm gonna see? I'm confused.
Joe Johnson
You gonna see, partner?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay, okay, okay. Oh, it's the Arkansas side coming out right now, huh? Okay, okay.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, I'm picking up with on that red hoodie too. So you know what that mean, huh? Hey, okay, okay. I ain't gonna say nothing.
Joe Johnson
Oh.
Shannon Sharpe
Respectfully, as a LeBron biggest fan, how do you feel seeing him going on all these other athlete shows and not Nightcap? The one thing that we wanted to do with Nightcap, other than what Club Shay Shay is, we didn't want to make it guest dependent. So even if we don't have a guest on Nightcap, I feel Ocho Joe and I can talk about anything. Club Shay Shay is bigger than one. Any one guest. I love. I appreciate everybody giving me their time and coming on my show. I did not start nightcap to have LeBron James as a guest. If he comes on I'm Grace, I'll graciously accept him and be as thorough as I can. But it's not.
Joe Johnson
It doesn't.
Shannon Sharpe
It doesn't bother me. Cat Williams went on my show when he hadn't really done anything. So I've had guests to come on my show that haven't gone on other shows. Damon Wayans, he don't really do things. Ted Cruz don't really do things. Yeah, it'd be great, but I didn't defend LeBron. When I say something about LeBron, I sincerely believe it and I try to back it up with facts.
Joe Johnson
That's it.
Shannon Sharpe
But if LeBron comes on, he wants to come on Nightcap, we love to have him. If he wants to come on Club, we love to have him. But if he doesn't, I promise you, people are still going to watch Nightcap. People still are going to watch Club Shay Shay. I love every guest that we have. We got young Ma on there now. She was unbelievable. I love sitting down with people that I don't really know a whole lot about. And as we do a deep dive and to watch them open up. But no, bro, I don't feel no type of way. I know people, you know, they tried to make it a big deal. And. And even Stephen A's like, right, you know, you went on pmac. Hey, I love pmac. Cause PMAC lets you know what's capable. Yeah, he took a show that was in his basement or however he was doing an Indy. And boom. So for me, Nightcap is not guest dependent. Ocho, Joe and I, we can talk about anything. We can make it entertaining, we can make it informative, we can make it educational. Club. Shay. Shay is a little bit more guest dependent. So that's why you'll see the ebbs and flows with the views. Somebody, they really like people to tune in. Somebody that don't, they'll click. And that's. You're right. But no, I don't feel. I don't feel any type of way. If LeBron ever comes on, yeah, I'd love to have it.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
But if he doesn't come on, I promise you, I'm not gonna lose any sleep.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And, and matter of fact, Chad, y' all do me a favor and you can spam LeBron's Twitter and Instagrams and let LeBron know. After I give Joe this works, he could be next.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, hey. You keep my name at your damn mouth. I told you. I told. Yeah, yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, Joe, how old are you? You 40? What?
Joe Johnson
I'll be. Hey, matter of fact, it's June 1st. It's. It's 12 o' clock over here, so I. On the 29th of June, partner. Yeah, June 29th, I'll be 45.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay, 40. 45. LeBron. How.
Shannon Sharpe
How LeBron?
Joe Johnson
41. 41.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
41. Yeah, I got two 40 year olds when we get this work, huh? Hey, because of you. You don't piss me off now you got LeBron in this now. Because after. After I do. You win. LeBron, you next.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, Bron ain't got nothing to worry about once I tear your ass up.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I promise you. Hey, bro, I promise you I' ma wash you in front of the world.
Shannon Sharpe
I promise you.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm gonna watch you in front of the world.
Joe Johnson
Ocho, Ocho, you better stop while you're ahead. I'm telling you, because once we. Once we get started, I ain't gonna have no mercy for your little ass. I'm just letting you know.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Mercy? Little?
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Little.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, Joe, you know what? I don't even. I don't even curse like that, but you got me up. I don't even curse like that, Joe. Yeah, I just got. I just got saved two weeks ago. I don't even curse like that. But you. You really. You are. You barking up the wrong tree, I'll tell you that.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, okay. All right, well, let's.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, I'm trying to get Joe in the chair. Joe been ducking Club Shay Shay, but you know.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. Hey, Joe, don't sit in that chair, man. Let me
Shannon Sharpe
look.
Joe Johnson
Hey, you got Ryan Clark and Ocho texted me on three way and all kind of stuff.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn.
Joe Johnson
Let me live a little bit. I'm enjoying, like, having a good time.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, hey, I'm glad you just said that. Let me live a little bit, huh? Yeah, I get the message. I'm picking up what you're putting down.
Joe Johnson
What message you getting?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You say, let me live a little bit.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, but what message you getting from that? What you think this is?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You into Spencer's?
Joe Johnson
Oh, here he go. Here he go.
Shannon Sharpe
But here he go. Look at our numbers. Who in the sports realm. Close to us.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Not even. Not even close. And I mean no disrespect to nobody.
Shannon Sharpe
It ain't bro, but ain't nobody touching Club Shay Shay. Nobody touching us. Everybody. Everybody that's come on the show. Say, man, I appreciate you allowing me to tell my story. I re. I appreciate you doing your homework. I appreciate you just how prepared you are. I could tell you were prepared because I see the way you approach where you do things on television. But, bro, y' all run a force rate organism, first rate. Whatever you need. You're gonna get a point A to point B. Hey, Shay Shay media. The numbers speak for themselves. Everybody can talk about all this other stuff. The numbers speak for themselves. I ain't gotta say nothing but pull up the numbers,
Joe Johnson
boy. Making it happen, boy.
Shannon Sharpe
All they gotta do is pull up numbers. Hey, when they YouTube come up, when YouTube pops up and all the podcasts that's in the world. Where's Nightcap? Where's Club Shay Shay?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Huh?
Joe Johnson
Hey.
Shannon Sharpe
Huh?
Joe Johnson
And wait and wait till I do this damn demolition. Oh, you think the number. Hey, you think the number's crazy? Now see, when I whoop his ass, them numbers.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You see what I mean?
Joe Johnson
What?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, keep poking the bell, Joe. Keep poking the bell.
Joe Johnson
Wake the damn bear up.
Shannon Sharpe
I want to poke. Hey, will you put that mean demonstration. The record is. We had. We had a show that we had 340. How many we had? 330, 000 concurrent viewers.
Joe Johnson
Damn.
Shannon Sharpe
Huh?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
When?
Shannon Sharpe
That night, man, you know, we. Man, I threw the phone down on the bed and y' all heard something.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
We gonna beat. We gonna beat that.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. This asshole mama put on him. We gonna pass that.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, hey, we can get.
Shannon Sharpe
We can get.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
We can get a million concurrent viewers. Let me. Let me. Let me do one of them too, Lord.
Joe Johnson
Let you do one
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
See, mine ain't. Mine ain't no accident.
Joe Johnson
Hey, they did. They do. They do say it's a billion dollar industry now.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, wait. Hey, who you telling? Joe
Shannon Sharpe
got in trouble because they talking about, man. He know who that, bro. Y' all know if. If I know something. When have I ever felt that I knew something, that I didn't share it with you?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Come on, now.
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all get mad because I don't know something. It's like. It's like some, like, hey, bro, such and such play. You know him now. I don't know him, but he in the NFL, bro. I don't know everybody, right? I don't know everybody. Outlook, you do what you do.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I don't.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't. Like I said, I. I ain't judging. Whatever you do, you do that. But I didn't know these women. I did. And I'm like, right?
Joe Johnson
I have my ass.
Shannon Sharpe
And they talk about Jada Pink. Jada Pinkett. He's like, no, just read what I thought he was talking about. Jada Pinkett. Jada Fire. I'm like, who that? I don't know who this is. But then they got mad.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Little old mini stallion.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you got a fetish. I like a fetish.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, you know what I think about?
Joe Johnson
What's that?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You know, the World cup coming, right?
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You know, billions of people watch the World cup, huh?
Joe Johnson
Right?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You know, I could wear me some nightcap stuff and streak the field while the game going on. Now, you want to talk about marketing and branding? Now, y' all got this. And what you got to do is you got to bail me out as long as you bail me out.
Shannon Sharpe
But you all millions. You can bet on yourself. You can bet that somebody will streak the field, and then you do it
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
so you don't make the bet. And I'm a streak it.
Shannon Sharpe
You heard me.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, you make the bet, I' ma streak it. Y' all bail me out and we cash in. But then the whole world gonna know about Nightcap, where they already know about it, but they gonna know about it when I streak the field.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, hey. They. They probably. They don't. You. They ain't gonna whoop your ass for that?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
No, they just. They just try to tackle, you know, they're not gonna catch me.
Shannon Sharpe
You just go zigzag on the mocho
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
and, hey, hey, uncle, I'm gonna have on some cleats on purse.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Hey, hey, I'll put some money on you, man. I put some money.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Do that. Do that.
Shannon Sharpe
Where y' all taking it?
Joe Johnson
They got a jail in there. They got a jail they gonna hold his ass down there for.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, hey, hey. You remember how they took. Took a brother down there and Malcolm X when Denzel went down there, they stood in front of the. In front of the police station. He said, not until Brother Johnson. We know Brother Johnson, okay? Hey, we a leave until I know Brother Johnson, okay?
Joe Johnson
Ah.
Shannon Sharpe
Ah, there it is right there. Brother Johnson.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Daniel Wells. When's the time y' all had to snap on someone in a game for effing up? It's been a long time because I ain't been in the game. Yeah, 25 years since I retired. It's been, what, 20, 22
Joe Johnson
now? My mine been recent, like in. In like big. Playing in the big three.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn. You snap on them, Joe.
Joe Johnson
I want to win, Uncle Hell. But, hey, look, when they. When they beat us, guess who they say they beat?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah. We beat Joe now. We beat Joe now. Yeah. My name gonna be the first name come up.
Shannon Sharpe
You right.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay. Hey, Joe. Hey, when the first game, Joe?
Joe Johnson
You know.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You know, I'm popping up on you, Joe.
Joe Johnson
June 20th, we start in. We started LA, actually.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Again, who y' all play first? You know?
Joe Johnson
Damn, I don't even know who we play first, Ocho.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, you know what's funny is if y' all play June 20th, today is the first. Today the first, ain't it?
Joe Johnson
Yes. Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. That's night. That's 19 days away. And I would hate. You know, I'm gonna let you slide for the big three, Joe, because I would hate to take you. I would hate to take your confidence, like, and whoop you before you go and compete against them boys.
Joe Johnson
Ocho, don't piss me off. Don't. Don't piss me. I'm trying to be cool, bro.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm not trying to piss you off. I'm just saying I don't want to take it. You.
Shannon Sharpe
If.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
If. If you play me now and the big three start, then you gonna start looking like, damn.
Joe Johnson
Oo, you pure garbage, man. You pure garbage. I just want you to know that, bro. I hear you.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I hear.
Shaquille O'Neal
I hear.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I hear what you're saying. I just know what I do to you mentally, and you'll be crushed. You won't have no confidence. We gonna call you, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Damn. I ain't wired like that, partner. I ain't wired like that. You could be, for damn sure. I'm getting my get back. Okay?
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Joe Johnson
Okay. Yeah. Hey, I already got A hit out on a number of guys. Yeah, a hit. Yeah. Yeah. When you see me partner smoke.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, so.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
No, yeah, I hear you, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Hungry. Okay. Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I would. I would. I. I. You know, I wouldn't say snap, but I was very practice, bro. I'm trying for perfection, bro. I ain't gonna even put. I ain't been to hold you.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, you.
Shannon Sharpe
Everybody get one, but don't you make another one.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that, bro.
Shannon Sharpe
I gotta hold everybody accountable. We're gonna be. We're supposed to be where we're supposed to be, especially my group now. Hey, I. I don't know what's going on with the over lineman, but the tight ends. Yeah, we're gonna be right with offensive meeting.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
When it's time, everybody's supposed to be in there. We're gonna be where we supposed to be. That's it. That's how we're gonna do it. We're gonna get better while we out there and in the game, A. We're gonna try to find a way to figure it out, what's going on. Hey, we're gonna be attentive at the board. Hey, they trying to explain something to us. This is what we're gonna do. X, Y and Z, blah, blah, blah. Okay, fine. Don't come out there messing up. I ain't got no pain, y'.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
All.
Shannon Sharpe
I ain't breaking no news to nobody. Y' all know I ain't got no damn patience.
Joe Johnson
Oh, I'm telling you. Me neither. I'm saying it ain't got to be. It ain't even just a professional sport for me, man. Back home in Little Rock, we had. We got a dumb ball league that they used to go on every summer. We used to play in Uncle Ocho, bro, I used to be chewing ass out there like, man, hey, hey, look, we lose. Dudes be on the radio talking about how they done beat us, bro. Like, man, I want to win, man. Hey, y' all know these boys gonna try to show out on us nowadays.
Shannon Sharpe
That's how I was enjoying in college. You know, we are college. We had an IBA called Intermural Basketball Association. Oh, no.
Joe Johnson
It go down.
Shannon Sharpe
You know I cook, yo. You know I cook, right?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Let me tell you what, man. Bucket made me mad. Bucket said, hey, homeboy, you remember, you thought you was gonna get the mvp. Let me tell you what the coach did, Joe. I averaged like 30.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
This man, at the halftime of the championship game, he brought. He brought the guy there to give him the trophy. What?
Joe Johnson
At halftime?
Shannon Sharpe
Halftime of our game?
Joe Johnson
They piss you off?
Shannon Sharpe
First of all, he wasn't even supposed to get the trophy. It was supposed. Man, he talking about. And coach talking about, sharp, you can't win everything. I deserve that. I earned that. So you know what I did, Joe? Well, I could. Cause I already know, because they had. I had already got the word that I wasn't gonna win the trophy.
Joe Johnson
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
Man, tell that man, hey, tell him you don't want that trophy. Tell him you didn't earn it. Get to me, man. He had the record. He had to turn. He had the. The championship game record. 40. I dropped 41 and sat down with seven minutes to go. That was him, Joe. I would like that, Joe. After I was leaving, I dropped 41 and sat down with seven minutes to go.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah. Just prove your point.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm up and down the court. I'm talking. That's my trophy. Yeah, you give him the trophy. But everybody in here know who the real IBA player of the year is.
Joe Johnson
Fact. Hey, boy, I know that feeling. I know it.
Shannon Sharpe
First of all, he shouldn't even be. That's my trophy. Because I was trying to win the trophy every year. I was trying to, you know. Three Pete.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I. Look,
Shannon Sharpe
Joe, I remember. You know what I told him? I played. I told him, my average, they're like, man, you can't play. I said, man, no, I'm really like that. Said, why don't you play basketball? I said, because, you know, I want to be like my brother. My brother played. So the second. The first game, I had, like, had like 14 points, man, I thought that he was like that. He was like that. The next game, guess what I dropped on the joke. That's still a record.
Joe Johnson
What'd you drop? Oh, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
48.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
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Joe Johnson
Yeah. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't. I don't know what. I guess you know what it is. In a world full of lies, even the truth sound like a lie. It does.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
But everything that Shannon Sharp has ever said on nightcap is 1,000% provable. Yeah, provable.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Same.
Shannon Sharpe
Everything. Just go to Savannah State. What was Shannon Sharp like? Ask any of my teammates. Y' all know Red Grant, the comedian? Ask him. He was there. Ask any of my teammates. Ask anybody that went to Savannah State from 1986 to 1990. I graduated in 90. I went to the NFL. Yeah, I did ask. No, I graduated in 91. Ask them what was Sharp like in intramural? What was Sharp like in the practice? Ask my teammates at Denver. Ask him at Baltimore. Ask him at Glenville High School. What I gotta lie about with everything I say is, you can.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You can.
Shannon Sharpe
You can prove it. You can back it up.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I know a lot of people lie and a lot of people want clout. I did what I did. I did it. What I got lie about. But I know a lot of y' all lie. And y' all think y' all lie so much, y' all figure everybody, everything else, somebody else says a lot.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Don't look it up.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right. They think I'd be lying. Hey. Hey, Joe.
Joe Johnson
What's up?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You know. You know, words, mean things. And I got. I was going to let it slide. What's the name of the tournament y' all be playing at? And people go on the radio and talk about they be
Joe Johnson
the Dumba League, but we don't have. We don't have it no more. But they know what you're talking about if you say something about it. But look, Bobby Porter's played in it.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, yeah, I forgot about Bobby.
Shannon Sharpe
You owe Bobby one, too. O joke.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, Bobby too, boy. Oh, Bobby too, boy.
Joe Johnson
You gonna recant all this you talking about?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
No, I was really trying to get to the point, like you said.
Shannon Sharpe
You're gonna make it. Recap.
Joe Johnson
I try to be cool with him, you know what I mean, like. Cause he a good dude, but I ain't all this slick talking he doing. Boy, you gonna have hell to pay. When you see me, I just. I just want you to know that. Yeah. I don't know about nobody else, but when you see Me, Your ass got hell to pay.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, Joe. Hey. You ain't never really watched me play before, huh?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I watched you play.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
So. Before every game, when I played every game for 10, 11 years straight, you know I talk trash through the media every week, right?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And I went out and I went out there and backed up everything I ever said. You know that, right?
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But would that tell you, Joe?
Joe Johnson
You just talk. That's it.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I talk it and I walk it, Joe. I can do two things at once, and that's what. That's what you're gonna get. You're gonna get a. A small sample size of what I used to do back in the day.
Joe Johnson
Okay? All right. Okay. Ojo. All right. All right.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Now. Now, what you don't want to do is you don't want to piss me off when I put my hands together like this. It's. It's.
Shaquille O'Neal
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
It's a different ballgame.
Joe Johnson
That's what I want you. I want you pissed. I want you at your absolute best. I want you at your absolute best.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay?
Joe Johnson
Yes.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay. Hey, hold that thought, man. Hey, you got. You got your family affairs in order.
Joe Johnson
Everything straight. We good.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm gonna make sure. Because that gonna be crooked when I'm done with you.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, okay. Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
Car wash detail service said y' all should have went to the Roots picnic. It was great. The Jay Z thing with the Roots and. Yeah, and Erica Badu and all them.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They talking about that. Jay Z want acapella. He want acapella and, you know, spit a few bars, Joe.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm more of a. I'm more of a. I'm Chastain Park, Joe. You know me. Let me rain the cooler.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, Already Some drinks, a couple sandwiches. You want a nice little vibe.
Shannon Sharpe
That's it. That's it. That's all I'm about.
Joe Johnson
All right.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm sure it was great. I'm sure it was great.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I ain't trying to talk down anybody. That. That ain't. That ain't. That ain't my scene. That ain't my vibe.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I mean, if it ain't no jazz, Joe, I can't do it.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I would just be the last concert I went to. I was on the show that night when I went to see Andrea Patelli.
Shannon Sharpe
Huh?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I went to go see Andrea, but, you know, I love opera, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And listen, right?
Shannon Sharpe
Any.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Anything with the symphony, opera, blues, classical. I'm talking about first one at the door, matter of fact, Harry Connick Jr. You know, Harry Connick Jr. Is.
Joe Johnson
No.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. Harry Connor Jr. Coming in concert. I think he's in Canada. Michael Buble is coming in concert to the state. That, that. That's. That's where I'm tlc. That kind of music.
Shannon Sharpe
Joe. Ellie May. Who? Paul Simon. James Taylor.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, Paul Simon.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
When. When is this?
Shannon Sharpe
I'm just seeing.
Joe Johnson
Hold on.
Shannon Sharpe
Young giant, young blood. Sarah McLaughlin. Harry Connick Jr. Gonna be there January 11th.
Joe Johnson
Hold on. When you. You said when LMA gonna be there.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hold on.
Shannon Sharpe
LMA is gonna be there August 14th. The Isley brother's gonna be there August 22nd. That's my sister birthday.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, hey, hey. When? When? Harry Connor Jr. When is he there? I'm going to see Harry Connor Jr. And Michael Buble this year.
Shannon Sharpe
John Batista, the Blues Travelers. James Taylor.
Joe Johnson
He got that thing be jumping over there.
Shannon Sharpe
Shaboozy.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, Shaboozi. Nice boy. I like him.
Shannon Sharpe
Ain't no. Ain't no. The only run I really care to see is the Isley Brothers. I rock with the Isley Brothers. Yeah, you know, cooling the gang seal. I need some black. Let me see what my girl play it. I need shade to come. I'm telling y', all, if Sade is anywhere. We off that night. I'm just gonna be honest with you. We off that night. I'm going to see. There are no current. There are no shade concerts currently scheduled for 26. Man, y' all be lying get. Because I know she going into the. The Rock and Roll hall of Fame. Damn it. I'm just saying. I'm going to concert. Does the Knicks or Spurs have better shooters? And how about non Brunson minutes? What you think, Joe?
Joe Johnson
I think. And that's a good question as far as shooters, because Cat can shoot, Wimby can shoot. You look at OG Bridges, Hart. Hell, they. They. If they. They made believers out of. Out of me in this postseason. The way they've been playing, they've been shooting the crap out of. But hell, San Antonio got some guys who can fill it up, too. And champagne for sale. I. I don't know. It's probably about what and what as far as shooters.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, the chat swear they know everything, man.
Shannon Sharpe
What they know,
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Ocho. Really? Paul Simon. Do y' all know who Paul Simon is? They probably even know who Paul Simon and Garfunkel, man. Paul Simon. Favorite album from him called Graceland. You know that?
Shannon Sharpe
I do. Paul Simon is. I do.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, man. Hey, hey, Joe. You know Paul Simon?
Joe Johnson
No.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
His faith. Check this song out. When we get off when you get up. When we get off.
Shannon Sharpe
Let me look him up.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Diamonds on the soles of her shoes. Diamonds on the soles of her shoes. But. And you understand 80 a. A Paul Simon and Lady Smith black mombazo. How do I say it? Lady Smith black mombaza. I saw. I saw Lady Smith Black mombazo at the Blue Note down here in New York.
Shannon Sharpe
Place where you get gizzards and livers and chicken at Savannah State.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, yeah. It's a little jazz. It's a jazz spot out here in. In New York. The chat don't know, man. Man, come on, man. Y' all better stop playing with me, man. I'm. I'm cultured, man. Spin that. Spin that.
Joe Johnson
There you go.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You heard Christian new song?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, that thing be jumping. Hey, hey. You had creeps on the show. You had Young Miami on the show. Hey, she got.
Shannon Sharpe
She was funny.
Joe Johnson
Okay. Okay. Heard that song.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You got to hear a new song. Spin that. Spin that.
Shannon Sharpe
I'll take a listen to it.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, that thing be jamming.
Shannon Sharpe
Shelly Dago cello coming somewhere. Ultradamas. Since you on the road with winning. Who winning the Super Bowl.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Who win the Super Bowl?
Joe Johnson
You can't answer that right now.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I can answer that. By the time we get to week five. I can tell you. Let me. Let me get to week five now. I can tell you what teams are probably gonna make the playoff based on what I see in the preseason. Because last year, remember what I said? The two teams that were going to shock everybody would be the Chicago Bears and the Carolina Panthers. And what did they do?
Shannon Sharpe
Nightcap, biggest Scottish fan here. Love the stories and the laughs you bring every night. You are absolute legend. Questions? Will Nightcap ever do a live show in the uk? Would love to meet you guys.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
They love us in Paris. They love us in London.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. I mean, you know what? We'd probably end up having to do it around NFL Europe when they go overseas, something like that. Ocho Joe, we probably have a plan. Yeah, but that's a possibility.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Matter of fact, hey, week eight, week nine in Madrid.
Shannon Sharpe
That's a year. No, that's a year in advance that we need to plan that in 27 says, okay, here's what's going to happen. This is where they going. Okay. Yeah. If you okc, would you consider moving chat for Bam or maybe picks and depth pieces? Also, would you realistically rebuild the 76ers? I don't think. Me, personally, I don't think Pat Riley would take chat for Bam.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, no, I don't either.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm just being honest.
Joe Johnson
I don't either. Bam. Bam. Got. He a. He got a lot in his toolbox.
Shannon Sharpe
The New York Knicks, Nate. Like flicks? Photoshop picks don't matter. Spurs and 5. Spurs and 6. Roses are orange, violets are blue. The Knicks are destined for greatness and Nightcap Crew 2, so. Gotta, gotta. It's going back and forth. A Kevin Hart interview would do numbers right now. Ocho, do you still own any McDonald's franchises? ISO Hawks gotta go get Ant Man. Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Amen.
Shannon Sharpe
We put a call out to Kevin Hart. He's busy right now. Love to sit down, but. Ocho, do you still own McDonald franchises?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Of course. You think this lifestyle provide itself, huh? You think this lifestyle provide itself, huh? You think I. How you think I get these sunglasses?
Shannon Sharpe
Stole them Hun Joe Hogs gotta go get Ant man.
Joe Johnson
Boy. Hey, if the hogs get Ant man, you. Hey, you gonna turn the damn city upside down.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, hey, hey, let's be honest now. The only way that Hulk get Ant man, if you playing 2K, that's it.
Shannon Sharpe
They're not giving.
Joe Johnson
Or if he say, oh, no, hey, basketball a little different.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because the money's guaranteed. So if you're not happy, you say you want to go. They ain't got no choice but to get up off you.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep. When y' all all go hunting, Ocho gonna be like, I don't need all that artillery. I got my switch. Stay with me. Squirrel's gonna learn. I was a Marine sniper in 87, throwing up gang signs and everything.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm saying, y' all don't understand how fun that'll be. I'm telling you, if we go hunting, I'm telling you, like, we camp out, like, overnight, like, two, three days.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Hey. Oh, oh. That'll put us in another stratosphere. Everybody get their own tent.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Nah, nah, nah.
Joe Johnson
What do you mean now, nah?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Because in case. In case, like, a bear or something
Joe Johnson
come, we all know I don't want to be in no. 10 with you, Ocho. I'm sorry. No, I won't be in no tent with you. Hell, no.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho don't know how to fire no firearm, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Hey, we get that joke out there.
Shannon Sharpe
We can go river fishing. We can go lake fishing. We can go deep sea fishing.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, I'm gonna be in the water.
Shannon Sharpe
Huh?
Joe Johnson
The man can't even fish, Unc. He gonna be scanning damn fish away, throwing rocks in the water. Now we ain't gonna be able to catch Nothing.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, you don't want to. We play skip rocks.
Joe Johnson
See what I'm saying? Look at him. Listen to him.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, we have a time though. We have a time though.
Shannon Sharpe
We have no time.
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Hunting.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, no. We need to hunt like. Like wild boars, deer, you know, stuff that's challenging. I' ma use my bow. I don't need no gun. I'm gonna use my bow.
Shannon Sharpe
With a crossbow or boy.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yes, crossbow.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. I ain't going. Go ahead, Joe. I'll let y' all have it.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. I'm saying, when I was a Cub Scout, Jody used to call me Apocalypto.
Joe Johnson
Apocalypto.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, because I was so good with the bow.
Joe Johnson
Come on, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Check the number 12 pick. The number 17 pick and a future first rounder for Memphis. Third pick and with a chance to draft Boozer. Who says no?
Joe Johnson
You saying give up? Check.
Shannon Sharpe
12th, 17th. And the future first rounder for Memphis, third pick with a chance to draft Boozer.
Joe Johnson
No. Okay. See, ain't doing that.
Shannon Sharpe
And plus Boozer might be going it too.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, okay. She ain't doing that.
Shannon Sharpe
If Chad could have had averaged at least 15, Thunder would have possibly won in five. If I'm the GM, chat is a memory while I use him to bait the back. The seven foot golden child, kd.
Joe Johnson
So they think KD going back to okc?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I don't think so.
Joe Johnson
Nah, I don't see that neither, fellas.
Shannon Sharpe
Spurs weren't losing no matter what. NBA players are 80 in Game Sevens on their own territory. Thanks, Harrison Barnes. ISO. What do NBA GM say when guys are overpaid and underperformed their contract? Congrats on the 70,000 concurrent live viewers too. Thank you, Jay. What do they say, Joe, when you overpaid and underperform?
Joe Johnson
Hell that. I don't know, man.
Shannon Sharpe
That.
Joe Johnson
What you ain't worried there? Your contract.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, you money. I made a mistake. We made a mistake and you move on.
Joe Johnson
They not. They not saying they made no damn mistake.
Shannon Sharpe
If you move on. You said you made a mistake.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah. Like if you give a guy. If you give a guy a four year contract and you trade his ass after year one. Yeah, you. Yeah, we made a mistake. We shouldn't have gave him that
Shannon Sharpe
salute. Love how you guys communicate. Whether you agree or not. Yes, you agree. Hey, you could be passionate about something. Just because you passionate about it doesn't make you right. Doesn't make you wrong. We want to hear everybody's opinion and then we move on. We'll Let you decide. We let the chat decide who's right, who's wrong, right? Hey, guys. I want you guys to give my wife, Carmen Scott, a shout out. 24 years married. Got married at 20 years old in 20, in 2002. She's my rock through the ups and the downs now. Carmen Scott, happy life. Happy, happy wife, Happy life, I guess. Got married at 20 years of age and they've been together 24 years. The good, the bad, the indifferent, the ups, the down, sickness and health, rich or poor. Congratulations, Carmen. Your hubby wanted you to know that rock, you're the power and you're the everything. So congratulations, guys. Get another 24 in there. Hey, what's your opinion on Nick Wright and Stephen A. Smith beef? Ain't got no opinion. I don't care. Got nothing to do with me. I talk about sports, I talk about events. I don't talk about other people. So if these people don't play sports, yeah, we'll show stuff about somebody walking on the grass, but I ain't getting it. He has an opinion on something. Okay. He has an opinion on something. I ain't got no opinion on them. I like the fact that our research team do a good job of getting. Especially like tonight. There was nothing on. Define topics that we could discuss. All of us can chime in on, have an opinion on it and move on. Why am I going to discuss. Did you hear what this guy said? Did you hear what that guy said? I don't really care what that guy said. I got my opinion what I think about X player. Got my opinion what I think about X game. I don't get to it. I don't talk about nobody else.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, Steve. Stephen and Nick, I guess.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, I honestly. I honestly do not know. And I honestly do not care.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I know one thing. I can tell you something right now. What's that between Stephen A. And Nick, Nina. Neither one of them got basketball knowledge like me. Huh? Neither one of them. And Stephen A. And Nick Wright, if y' all want to have me come on and you want to sit here and talk basketball, huh, Let me know.
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, look, we talk about stuff. I talk about what I talk about on the show, Joe. And I honestly, when I go to the. When I go I'm somewhere, I don't talk about nothing else.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, that's it.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. I mean, for me, I think there's enough going on, enough sporting events that's going on. There's football, there's basketball. There's always a little something. Football, you can talk about. But right now, there's basketball, there's baseball, you know, track and field. They just had the robot thing. There's enough stuff to talk about. That's just me. Everybody's different. Everybody, yay, take off if that's what makes you happy. But there are a lot of people that spend all their time talking about other people on their podcast. And I'm like, are you a sports podcast up? Are you? I don't know. T. Stone. Hey, fellas, you can only keep one. Your sense of humor, your athletic ability, your money. Which one are you keeping and why?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
My sense of humor?
Shannon Sharpe
I ain't got no athletic ability, doc. That gone my athletic. Hey, I can shoot a few hoops or something, pitch some horseshoes or throw a car hole or something like that, but ain't a whole lot Left in fitness. 58. 58. Almost 58 year old body. You know what?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I'm probably with Ultra.
Shannon Sharpe
I was gonna say the same thing because you know what? With my sense of humor, I can go get some money.
Joe Johnson
There you go.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I was just gonna say that.
Joe Johnson
There you go. Hey, that's why I like y'.
Shannon Sharpe
All.
Joe Johnson
We all thinking alike. I was thinking the same. You know what I mean? Y' all like what?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, hey, I only get paid now because of my sister.
Shannon Sharpe
I. I get that. You know, women love a sense of humor.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, they do.
Joe Johnson
And you gonna get your ass whooped because of your sense of humor, too. I'm talking to you, Ojo.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You try to be nice. You try to let bygone be bygones. He continues to poke the bell.
Shannon Sharpe
The singer. The NFC north all time offense versus the AFC north all time defense. One drive doesn't end with a touchdown or a turnover. So you talk about the NFC all time offense. So you go talk. So it's probably Aaron Rodgers or Brett Favre as your quarterback. And you're probably going to take Devonte, maybe Megatron. Is that what it look? That's what they talk about. NFC north, though. Yeah. It's NFC north versus the AFC North. I'm not so sure what era we playing in, because the NFC north era. You got Joe Green, you got Ray Lewis, you got Lambert, you got Mel Blunt, you got Rod Woodson, Miles Garrett, T.J. watt. I think I'm gonna take the defense. My guys. Oh, ISO Prime Ocho versus Prime Time. Who's winning that matchup? And what separated Ravens championship team from those Broncos championship teams you were on? And what team do you miss being around the most?
Joe Johnson
It said Prime ISO against Prime Ocho I don't give a damn what we playing his ass losing.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
See what I mean?
Joe Johnson
I gotta keep it real. Ocho, the man asked a question. Can I keep it 100? I'm just keeping it one.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You see what I mean?
Shannon Sharpe
He respected you. Ha, Ocho, don't worry about it.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Don't worry about it. Listen, he don't have to respect me. I'm gonna, I'm gonna take it.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm gonna take it.
Joe Johnson
I mean. Oh, you asked. The man asked a question. Can I give an honest answer? That was my honest answer.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right.
Joe Johnson
I know it may have finished you, but.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, well, yeah, okay. Don't worry about it.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, the Brave, the Ravens and Broncos. Ravens were a defensive team. Broncos, we were offensive team. Hence we got four guys off our offense in the Pro Football hall of Fame. I just spent more. I didn't. I only spent two years in Baltimore. Yeah, I have, you know, friends that I still keeping. Adelus Thomas. I still talk to Hellfats from time to time. I see Woody because he lives out here and talk to him from time to time. But obviously Denver, because I spent 12 years in Denver and I built up more friendships in Denver than I did in Baltimore. But I enjoy, I thoroughly, thoroughly enjoy my time in Baltimore. How come everybody get, get on KD for going to the warriors, but nobody LeBron for joining the Heat. Really? You joined a team, come on, that was 73 and nine. You joined the team that was 73 and nine that already had a two time league MVP. And one of those times he was unanimous. And you gonna say that was the equivalent of Jordan D. Wade that had gotten put out in the first round
Joe Johnson
and previously you was just up 31 on there, bro.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, you know that. Come on now.
Joe Johnson
Come on.
Shannon Sharpe
It's not, it's not even. It's not even. It's a false equivalent and it's not even the same. It's not. Everybody knows that. You can try to fix it up and say it's the same thing, but it's not. It's not. Because when KD left the left, the warriors, they still went and won a championship. Yep. When LeBron left the Cavaliers, what did they do? Okay, by 2001, how close was Kobe to Shaq?
Joe Johnson
Hell, he was right there.
Shannon Sharpe
Dead heat.
Joe Johnson
Go, go, go, go. Look at them. Go look at them playoff numbers. If shaq was averaging 30. Yeah. Kobe. If Shaq was averaging 30.8, Kobe was at 30.1.
Shannon Sharpe
Facts. Yeah, facts. He was. He was. It was a dead heat. You Gotta go. You gotta. Hey, you gotta bring the cameras out. It's a photo finish. It's a photo finish. He was absolutely and is absolute. He was 20, 22. 2022. 22 years old at that point in time.
Joe Johnson
Joe, I'm talking about. Unbelievable, bro. I remember watching it like it was yesterday. I couldn't believe. I'm like, how this young dude out here dominating the game the way he dominating like this. It was a dead heat insane.
Shannon Sharpe
Dead heat insane nightcap fam. Doc here born and raised in Chicago for ISO ISO in 2011, when Pooh was the greatest MVP ever. Why y' all beat us for two? That was my first game as a kid. You made me cry that day. All love.
Joe Johnson
Who is this? Who we play?
Shannon Sharpe
He said he was brought to Chicago in 2011 when Pooh was the greatest MVP ever. Y' all beat us 4, 2.
Joe Johnson
Nah, they. They beat us. They beat us 4, 2. But
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
who was Pooh?
Joe Johnson
Dig, dig. Derek Rose.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
What do you call it?
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Yeah. He had one MVP that year. And damn, man, I just remember. I remember dude going to a whole nother level. I ain't gonna lie to y'. All. He was. We. We couldn't do nothing with it with that boy. We couldn't do nothing with him.
Shannon Sharpe
What's going on? When will the show come to Chicago? I bought tickets last year. We're looking. We're gonna see shot town. We got about four cities. It's just so hard because right now we got the World Cup. We gotta hunker down for the World cup, and then we're gonna take some time off. I know I'm taking some time off. Joe gonna hold the fort down for us.
Joe Johnson
I got y'.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
All. Hey, you. You know when you take time off? You know exactly when yet or you don't know yet? I know we doing.
Shannon Sharpe
It's gonna be like the end of July into, like, August like, right after the World Cup. Yeah. We're gonna be dark for at least a week, and then Joe gonna take over. Joe and his. His guest co host.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Ramp up a football season.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay. Yeah. I mean, the. The faster you get them dates, because I want to take. I want to take the kids. I'm gonna take the kids somewhere, but I don't want to do it while we still. While we still.
Shannon Sharpe
Is this the greatest decade of. In NBA history so far? We haven't had a repeat winner in seven years.
Joe Johnson
I think the parody of the league is. Has been pretty good over the years, but, boy, listen, if you Mess around. Let San Antonio win one this year. It may win a couple, right, Joe?
Shannon Sharpe
Are y' all bring a live show to Nashville, Tennessee. Also need some Tennessee Titans on so we can win with the Nightcap effect. Yeah, we gonna. I like Nashville. Nashville. Okay.
Joe Johnson
It is Nashville. Nice. Yeah. I moved around through Nashville a time or two.
Shannon Sharpe
Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite un. And that's my partner and co host. That's the Liberty City legend, the bingo great, a former Pro bowler and an all Pro. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson and the seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks, University of Arkansas alum that is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank you for your support and your continued support because all of this is possible because of you. Again, thank you for last night. Monster numbers. We greatly, greatly appreciate your support and again, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier, head over to laportierconac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. Premium BSOP cognac. Smooth, best tasting. And it drinks like an XO. And we also have it in two sizes. The 750 which is the OG, the 375 which is the Junior. But it's the same quality, the same great taste. Please direct responsibly and stay safe. Shea says, look, this season was a failure. Yes, I won the finals. I won the regular season mvp. I'm a back to back mvp. And that wasn't my goal at the beginning of the season. My goal was to win the regular season MVP and win finals mvp. So I could be in the elite. I'm already elite company. What I want to be. I'll be able to go into another room that very few people have entered. Unfortunately, he fell a little short. He took the responsibility and that's why we love Shea Alexander because place the blame on himself. He'll get it, but he'll get back there. And next time he's back in this position, this result won't happen again. So thank you guys for joining us. I'm Unk, He's Ocho, he's ISO. We're back tomorrow before we take Tuesday off, but we gear up for Wednesday night for the big showdown. Spurs, Knicks. Oh, thank you guys. Peace.
Joe Johnson
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Podcast: Nightcap (Shay Shay Media & Playmaker)
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson
Guest: Joe Johnson
Date: June 1, 2026
This episode of Nightcap features hosts Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson alongside guest Joe Johnson, diving deep into the latest controversies in the WNBA, especially the situation surrounding Caitlin Clark and the ongoing Indianapolis Aces narrative. The crew delivers unfiltered takes on player-coach relationships, athlete accountability, passion in sports, and the ever-present social media drama. The latter half is a blend of listener Q&A, their signature humor, debates about NBA off-season scenarios, and stories from their careers.
Tough Love from Coaches: The episode opens with a heated debate about player-coach dynamics, focusing on Caitlin Clark's behavior and WNBA coach Stephanie White's approach.
Defense—or Lack Thereof:
Athlete Entitlement and Team Dynamics:
Chad’s Perspective:
Host Chemistry & Global Reach:
Humor and Camaraderie:
NBA Debates:
Super Bowl Picks:
All-Time Matchup Debates:
Prime Joe vs. Prime Ocho:
Parody in the NBA:
LeBron & Podcast Guest Culture:
Shannon Sharpe on Caitlin Clark:
Joe Johnson on Respect and Coaching:
Shannon on Passion and Defense:
Ocho on Fame:
Chad on What He’d Keep:
Joe Johnson’s Competitive Fire:
As always, the Nightcap crew mixes raw honesty, deep sports knowledge, and contagious humor—never shying away from controversy while keeping the vibe playful and relatable. This episode focuses on accountability in the women’s game, NBA/celebrity culture, the value of humility, and the joys of debating hypotheticals with friends.
This episode delivers classic Nightcap energy, combining sharp sports insight with authentic personalities and comedic chemistry. The Caitlin Clark segment anchors a pointed conversation about what it means to be a leader and teammate in today’s high-profile sports world. The group’s playful squabbles and candid Q&A highlight why fans tune in, night after night, around the world.
For newcomers:
If you’re looking for honest sports talk with legendary personalities, unfiltered debates, and more than a few laughs, this is quintessential Nightcap.