Nightcap Hour 2: Draymond Green Says Being 7’5” HURTS Wemby + Unc & Iso RESPOND to Ron Harper + Lakers CONNECTED to Mitchell Robinson & Robert Williams III + BIG 3 WEEKEND 1 RECAP

Summary

Nightcap Hour 2 Summary – June 22, 2026

Podcast: Nightcap
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”) & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (“Ocho”)
Episode Theme:
A deep-dive nighttime sports talk with an NBA-heavy focus: discussion on Draymond Green’s take about Wembanyama’s height, evaluation of young talent like Dylan Harper, Lakers’ potential moves at center, and a thorough recap of Big 3’s wild opening weekend.

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Main Topics & Insights

1. Draymond Green’s Comments: Does 7’5” Hurt Wembanyama?

[03:00–16:41]

• Draymond Green’s Take: Being 7’5” ("Wemby") may actually be a disadvantage offensively in today's NBA despite his unique skill set.

  • “Not sure 7’5’’ suits you better than being 7’1’’…being 7’5’’ almost does him a disservice.” — Joe Johnson [03:10]
  • Taller players are easier to “root out” and get under physically, as even smaller defenders can sometimes push them off their spots.

• Panel Analysis:

  • Shannon/Unc: Defensive dominance stays—he can block threes and protect the rim.
    • “On the defensive end it helps him. Offensively, it hurts.” — Joe [04:14]
  • Ocho: Wemby must rely on length and agility, not brute strength. True strength upgrade needs to be “wiry strong.”
    • “He has to be that wiry, strong Ocho, you know, to work.” — Ocho [05:45]
  • Comparisons to Giannis and Shaq: Early Giannis was “skin and bone,” took years before building power. Wemby will never be Shaq-strong but doesn’t need to be; skill and size combo already create mismatch problems.

• Developmental Needs:

  • Signature Shot: Unlike Olajuwon, Jordan, or Dirk, Wemby lacks a bread-and-butter move to go to in crunch time.
    • “He didn’t have a signature shot he could go to…he doesn't have that shot.” — Joe [11:44]
  • Workout/Longevity: Panel expects strength and confidence to grow with time and weight room work.
    • “This loss hurts Wemby in the Finals…he really was hurt behind this. So I think he gonna come back a totally different player.” — Ocho [11:24]
  • Coaching and Mentality: Needs Garnett’s “dog” and Olajuwon’s footwork; both cited as offseason mentors for Wemby.
    • “I’m going to see Kevin Garnett, just for that mentality…Akeem Olajuwon to add to his game.” — Kevin [13:35]

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2. Unc & Iso Respond to Ron Harper’s Comments about Dylan Harper

[16:41–32:15]

• Background:

  • Ron Harper (NBA champion, father of Dylan Harper) denied rumors of Dylan demanding a starting spot, calling out “fake news”. Harper also reacted to comparisons of his son to James Harden by the Nightcap crew.

• Hosts Clarify & Defend Their Praise:

  • Unc: The Harden comparison was meant as a huge compliment, for Harper’s offensive upside, not a slight.
    • “He has the ability to be offensively what James Harden was. We were praising him.” — Joe [17:43]
  • Both Ocho and Joe repeat that defense isn’t Harden’s specialty, but that should not tarnish the comparison given Harden’s all-time rank.
    • “Don’t listen…James Harden is not a defensive guy. But don’t demean the guy. He’s a top 75 player in the history of the game.” — Joe [24:53]
  • Stresses that few NBA players are elite on both ends; being an elite offensive threat like Harden is rare and special.
    • “Y’all make it seem like every player in the league played lockdown defense like Kobe and Jordan.” — Joe [25:16]

• Lineup Outlook for Harper:

  • Panel wants Dylan Harper in the Spurs starting lineup, ideally in tandem with Fox and Castle for a big, dynamic backcourt.
    • “It’s gonna be Fox, Castle and Harper.” — Ocho [30:54]
  • Acknowledges the challenge of sharing minutes and shots on a young, stacked San Antonio team.

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3. Lakers’ Offseason Rumors: Mitchell Robinson & Robert Williams III

[35:57–44:20]

• Latest Reports: Lakers linked to Knicks’ Mitchell Robinson and Blazers’ Robert Williams as veteran big man targets.

  • “They could emerge as a suitor for the Knicks’ Mitchell Robinson and the Trailblazers’ Robert Williams III.” — Joe [35:57]

• Panel on Fit & Risks:

  • Mitchell Robinson:

    • Concerns (and jokes) about his foul trouble and anemic free throw shooting.
      • “If I pay you enough…you gonna have to shoot 500-1000 free throws a day.” — Ocho [36:57]
      • “Shooting 36%, you’re going to get into 40%. You cannot play nobody real minutes shooting free throws like that, bro.” — Joe [37:25]
    • Big role/expectation jump from NY to LA—many players don’t adjust well when expectations skyrocket.
      • “What’s the greatest killer of careers? Expectations.” — Joe & Ocho [38:37]

  • Robert Williams III:

    • Intrigue but concern about injury history; “it’s always a gamble.”
      • “Injury history, bro, that’s always a gamble.” — Ocho [40:23]
    • Lakers need two more bigs to contend for a title; backup Jackson Hayes also praised for knowing and sticking to his role.
      • “Jackson Hayes is great in his role…He is what he is. That’s what I love.” — Joe [41:10]

  • AD Positional Preference:

    • Both agree Lakers are best when AD plays the four, shifting to five only for crunch time, mirroring past successful lineups.
      • “AD’s best years in LA or New Orleans were at the four with a big next to him.” — Joe [43:38]

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4. BIG 3 Weekend 1 Recap: Drama and Physicality Erupt

[49:01–65:34]

• Wildest Headlines:

  • Historic forfeit — first ever: LA Riot beat defending champs Miami 305 after Miami (hit by injuries, ejections) couldn’t finish.
  • Multiple ejections: Michael Beasley, Lance Stephenson both suspended for fighting. This stemmed from ongoing bad blood (and a history of brawls) between these teams.
    • “When you a damn repeat offender…same thing happened last season, bro. It spilled over into the stands.” — Ocho [50:31]
  • League issued major suspensions—sends message to keep play professional, especially on national TV.

• Hosts’ Take:

  • Ocho: Competition is good, but chaos hurts the league; applauds the Big 3 for cracking down.
    • “You can’t have the damn animals running the zoo now.” — Ocho [51:08]
  • Comparison to David Stern-era NBA—physicality is part of the league’s appeal, but lines must be drawn for growth and mainstream legitimacy.
  • Fines in professional sports: Lighthearted segment on “where does all that fine money really go?” [55:00–56:43]

• Game Recaps & Standouts:

  • Trilogy bounce back: James Johnson shines in his debut with 17 points.
  • MVP talk: Joe Johnson (Iso Joe) flexes his Big 3 legacy—only three-time MVP. “That’s a story for another day. We ain’t gotta talk about that.” — Joe [58:18]
  • Triplets’ resilience: Played shorthanded yet still beat Houston, crediting experience and unselfish team play.
  • Dallas Power’s dominance: Biggest win margin of week—Elijah Stewart led a deep, balanced squad.
  • Coach/Lifestyle notes: Special shout out to Nancy Lieberman’s leadership, “She do a hell of a job. Super, super cool individual.” — Ocho [65:01]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Exchanges

• On Wemby’s adjustment to the NBA:

  • “Strengthening up them hips, bro. Everything connected to the hips.” — Ocho [06:51]
  • “Sometimes, Ron, just take the compliment, bro. Nobody trying to demean your son...That’s praise.” — Joe [29:16]

• On NBA offense vs defense:

  • “Y’all make it seem like every player in the league played lockdown defense like Kobe and Jordan.” — Joe [25:16]

• On Big 3 brawls:

  • “You can’t have the damn animals running the zoo now.” — Ocho [51:08]
  • “Cube work too hard to even get it to this point, to grow the Big Three, to have it as big as it is…” — Kevin [54:22]

• On expectations in sports:

  • “What’s the greatest killer of careers? Expectations.” — Joe & Ocho [38:37]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Wemby & Height Debate: 03:00–16:41
• Ron Harper, Dylan Harper & Harden Comparison: 16:41–32:15
• Lakers Center Search (Mitchell Robinson/Robert Williams): 35:57–44:20
• Big 3 Opening Weekend Recap: 49:01–65:34
  • Forfeit history & ejections: 49:01–54:49
  • Fine money in sports: 55:00–56:43
  • Recaps & MVP talk: 56:52–65:34

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Summary Tone & Final Thoughts

The panel—Shannon Sharpe’s charismatic cheerleading, Ocho’s playful directness, and the guest analysts’ authenticity—deliver passionate, experience-backed takes on new NBA trends and league drama. The episode offers tough love for NBA rising stars, sharp observations about player growth, and pride in the culture, competition, and entertainment value of leagues like the Big 3.

For NBA and hoops fans, this is a must-listen hour of fast-moving, irreverent, smart analysis—just what you’re looking for in a nighttime sports wrap.

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[Joe]

Goodbye, Draymond Green. Saying 75 might actually hurt Victor Wembanyama. Let's take a listen to what Dre had to say.

[Uncle Ocho]

The unicorn. It's a rare, rare air that he's in.

[Joe Johnson]

Not only is it a unicorn, but you also get to a certain height where it becomes a disservice in this league. You know, like, there's nothing he can do about being 7 5. But I'm not sure 75 suits you better than being 7 1.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Right, right.

[Joe Johnson]

Being 7ft with his skillset, with his skill set, being 75 almost does him a disservice. Like, yeah, you can catch and fit, but with the skill set that everyone loves about this kid, being 75 almost hurts that, because once you get to this level, you're going to run up against guys who's way stronger, that moves as fast or faster, and they play way lower to the ground.

[Commentator/Analyst]

Right.

[Joe Johnson]

And as you know, low man wins. And so if. If you just running up into that, like, 75 kind of hurts you. And so I think that's something that he's going to have to adjust to as well, that people aren't really accounted for.

[Joe]

I think it hurts him on an offensive end. I think it helps him on the defensive end.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Joe]

You see how he blocking those three point shots when he take one step and he throwing the ish in the stands while he's deflecting it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I understand what Draymond said. Because he's so tall, it's easy to root him out and get up under him. And that's why you saw. Sometimes you saw Caruso was guarding him. There's no way a 65 guard, a 64 guard should be able to guard him. But. But because he's so tall and he can't, Caruso just gets up under him. It root him out of his spot.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, that lower sense of gravity, bro, he's never going to have the advantage when it comes to that. He's always going to have to use his length, his quickness versus the cast that's going to be guarding him. Ocho, he's always going to have an advantage. That's the problem. Because a big man guarding him, he's always going to have the advantage because of how he moves. And his height and the way his game is, you know, he's not a typical big. He's not a stiff. He's not a guy who can just post up and shoot jump hooks or just shoot midis. Like this dude gonna block the shot, bring it all the way up the court, run the play. You know what? Now y' all just get out the way, go in my bag, bing, bing, bing. You know what I mean, and get right to it. We ain't seen that bro, at 7 5. So I agree with Unk. Defensively, it helps him. It's just on the offensive end, when he does try to be demonstrative when it comes to posting up and trying to gain that advantage and using his height to his advantage, that's where he's going to have to get stronger. Stronger don't mean, like the mass he has to get. He has to be that wiry, strong Ocho, you know, to work. You just can't let guys root you out and move, you know what I mean? I think that's the biggest adjustment that he gonna have to face or deal with that ultimately is going to take him to that next level to make that leap like Giannis made. You know, when Giannis first came into the league, boy, he was skin and bone. I'm talking about. Yeah, man. It's just night and day to what he ultimately got to. I don't think he going to be able to put on the mask Giannis guy. But as far as being effective and using his length and moving around the court the way he does, he's always going to have an advantage at this point. He just has to be consistent in, you know, his mid range jump shots, his three point jump shots, because you always got to respect him way out there. That's the advantage. So if he catch it 2ft behind the 3oo and he pump fake you now, you. Because you got to close out tough now. He can get into his bag. I just think, you know.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Strengthening up them hips, bro. Everything connected to the hips. Strengthen up them hips to where you can move down. Huh?

[Joe]

Waist down.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, you gotta be.

[Kevin]

Yeah. When I. When I look at y', all, when I look at. I'm talking about. I'm about to say Giannis. When I look at Wimby. Damn. What's Buddy name? Yeah. When I. When I look at Wimby on, obviously, I think for. For him, I understand what Draymond is saying. I think he has an advantage, obviously, being 75. The only problem. The only problem he has is when he in the low block of the post.

[Tab Ramos]

That's it.

[Kevin]

That's it. Outside of that, he plays small. Outside from the three. When it's time to go into his toolbox, Joe, he play like somebody that's 6, 5, 6, 7. He could put the ball on the floor. He can shake you. He can get by you. The only issue if you want to add something to his game is to be able to play with your back to the basket and maybe to go in your bag and not let people get you off your spot.

[Joe]

I think that's the reason why he don't want to, because he knows he. He's not strong enough to consistently bang. See, look, if he like shaq. Shaq was 7:1. Shaq was 325. So Shaq was. But Shaq was ultra, ultra quick for his size. Shaq moved like a guy six, six, six, seven. But he got 325 pounds. So when Shaq. When Shaq. When Shaq dis. When Shaq put that shoulder into you or put that hip on you, you moving.

[Kevin]

It's a rap.

[Joe]

Women put that shoulder on you. Everybody like, well, damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, you ain't gaining. He ain't gaining no ground.

[Joe]

Who cut a fan on here? Ain't nobody moving. Ain't nobody getting dislodged. Look. Look how Og dislodged him. Yeah. Remember Og going to the basket dislodging. Boom.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

You think somebody can dislike. You might dunk on a big. But you're not supposed to dislodge him like that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, and I think Wemby hears all this too, fellas. I think he gonna come back. You know, I think that in hindsight, the best thing that could happen to Wimby is them losing in this finals, bro. I think that young man gonna lock in. Y' all gotta remember now, he ain't but 22 years old, so all that we talking about, he's gonna gain the strength to where he can hold his ground. It may take him. It may take him to next year or the year after that, but he's gonna get better next year and the next year and the next year. So I think his game will continue to. To where he's going to be, obviously the face of the league, because he going.

[Joe]

The.

[Uncle Ocho]

The numbers that he going to have across the board, bro, it's going to be something that we've never seen before. When it comes to scoring blocks, rebounds, he going to be. He probably going to be top five damn near every statistical category.

[Joe]

You're right. And I think the Thing is, look, everybody can't be like magic. Come in off the rip, Boom. Win the championship. Bird come in. Sometimes you got to grind your way through like Jordan.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Lose, lose. He's like, man, they beat, man, the Bad Boy Pistols beating the hell out of me. Damn this. Hey, Tim, let's get in this gym.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. No time off. It builds character, bro.

[Joe]

Bro, I'm tired of. I'm tired of these hard ass files because they're wearing me down. I got to be able to withstand that, still get to my spot and let this velvet jumper go.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hello.

[Joe]

And that's what he did.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hello.

[Joe]

So all that. All that Joe Dumars pulling him down and, and, And Lamb beer and, and. And s. And Rodman beating the hell out of James Air with Rick Mahorn. You're like, man, enough of this, man. Yeah, he started to be able to play through that, and now he don't have a weakness. Yeah, you can't beat him up because they could beat. They felt they could beat him up. Say we beat him up. Hey, he'll shut it down now. You can't beat him up now. What you gonna do?

[Kevin]

Yeah, but you know what? He's still small frame, you know, Even if he does get stronger, I think he has to pick and choose when he wants to play that game. Yeah, when he wants to play that game with his back to the basket, when he wants to play that game down in the low block. You pick and choose when you want to do that.

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[Kevin]

You don't want to take away from your other strengths and being able to put the ball on the floor. Being able to shoot the three or being able to. To get to your spot and shoot your pity.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, no, no, I agree with you, Ocho. And I think that's why I say he has to take what's a weakness of him right now and make it into a strength. And that's just, you know, obviously staying in the weight room, getting stronger and continue to work on your game. Your game going to evolve once he gets more comfortable and gain more strength, you know, man, you've been in that weight room, bro. It brings a sense of confidence when you hit that flow, man.

[Joe]

Absolutely.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't know about y', all, but, bro, I used to do a full workout before games, you know, just to go out there and really feel strong, like it. Hey, man, it way different when you've been in that weight. And I think. I think this loss hurts WIMBY in the finals to where, you know, he. He really been he really was hurt behind this. So I think he gonna come back a totally different player.

[Joe]

But the problem is with Wimby, he didn't have a signature shot that he could go to. Yeah, look at all the greats. They had a signature shot they could go to Elijah, Juan, Jordan, Bird, magic, Kobe Braun. Elijah1. I don't know if I've mentioned Elijah1 twice. Everybody had a shot, so he doesn't have that shot. I can put it to my basket. I can put my back to the basket. Give it to me. He didn't feel comfortable with that, Dirk.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

All those guys. Now if you were shaq, you sell one 325, 340. Well, you could just turn around and everybody move and bang. But that ain't what he is. Yeah, he's going to have to. He's going to have to be Brunson. When Brunson need to get a shot, Brunson going to go to that. He going to do this. Put that shoulder to you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And hit you with the step back.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Every single time. Go back and look at the shots that he hit on Champagne. Go back and look at the shots that he made down in clutch situation. You got to have that in your bag.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh yeah. As a post player, Ocho, you got to have you at least at least three moves go to move that you know going to work. And you right Unc, he don't have that right now. And I think he definitely has to put the work in at his size, bro. Ocho, I agree with you. He needs to use it's matchups for him who's ever guarded. You got a big guy here who's slow footed like go Bear. Then take him out here in the deep waters and drown him. You know what I mean? Yes, you know what I mean? Take him out here in the deep waters and drown him. But when you playing against the Knicks and they got cat and he guarding you, you gonna have to get you a couple move jump hook, you know what I mean? Cup, you know, three nice go to moves, bro. That you can give him something different every time to keep his ass guessing. And I think once he figures that part out. Okay, Ocho, that's gonna take him to a whole nother level.

[Kevin]

Listen, I'm. I'm not in the NBA. I'm not wimby. But understanding the strengths that I have right now, how good I am offensively, how good I am defensively, there are two people that I would want to go see in the offseason for one to Work on my toolbox two. I'm going to see Kevin Garner, Kevin Garnett, just for that, just for the mentality, just for that, just, just to have that dog in me. And I'm going to see Akeem Olajuan to add some of the repertoire that he had to it to his game and see if I can, if I

[Uncle Ocho]

can add that footwork. Boy, you gotta get that footwork. That's, that's what the dream got, bro. Look, we, we look, we, we look at the turnaround shots and all that, but it's his footwork, you know, when we learned that he. He get that footwork down pack. It's a rap, bro.

[Joe]

Well, I don't know if he gonna get that foot back because you got to realize Akeem grew up playing soccer.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So, you know, he great with his people. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Wendy.

[Joe]

Huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

Wendy grew up playing soccer, too. Wait for.

[Joe]

Man, how you go? How you gonna kick the ball with a size 42 shoe?

[Kevin]

He playing side playing. He playing what size? He went about a size 30. We're about a size 30.

[Joe]

Man. Ain't bad feet that long, Joe. How the hell are you gonna kick the damn ball?

[Kevin]

And he, he ain't playing no soccer. If he playing soccer, he was playing golden, boy.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He might kick. He might kick the ball when it's in front of him. But as far as dribbling the ball down the field, hell no. But, but you look at. But it wasn't just the turnaround dream will show you the ball. Show you another move. Show you another move and then up under you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, you can slick with it.

[Joe]

You got to have a counter to the counter.

[Uncle Ocho]

There you go.

[Joe]

That's it.

[Uncle Ocho]

All the great.

[Joe]

Like I said, look, he's. The thing is, is that he's got to work on that now because we said the same thing with Dwight Howard. He only 19. He only 19. He gonna work on it. And Dwight Howard never developed.

[Kevin]

Hey, these two completely different type of animals, though, huh? These two completely type of animals, though.

[Joe]

All I'm saying, if Dwight Howard would have worked on a move, Joe, because look at Dwight. Dwight had that same little skinny ass frame when he came in. Yeah, he was in the two, three years later, man, Dwight Howard looked like a show enough.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Hey, Dwight was real raw uncle. When he came into the, when he first came into the league. He ain't have no offensive game for real. You know what I mean?

[Joe]

Running dunk.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, but, but, but he developed, he developed him a nice little jump hook A night, you know, a. He'll shoot his turnaround sometime and then face up to where he turned face up and shoot that little jump off the glass. He developed that. You know what I mean? Wimby is gonna. He gonna develop. I'm telling y', all, he gonna develop at least 2 to 3 go to moves that he used on that block. Whether it's the turning face, whether it's the back down to the jump hook,

[Joe]

whether it's fade away.

[Uncle Ocho]

But you have to be effective and efficient when you shoot these shots, bro. Cause in the postseason, what we see. Hey, man, ain't a whole lot of space out there, you know what I mean? You ain't got a lot of time. Great scores. It don't take all day pounding the rock. You gonna get two dribbles max, you know, to be able to get your stuff off. And you gotta be able to do it at an efficiency rate. And I think he will learn that.

[Joe]

NBA champion Ron Harper father Dylan Harper completely shut down the widely circulated reports of rumors regarding Dylan's camp demanding a starting spot. Stop it. Fake news. You don't want to demand a spot. You want to earn a spot. Ron also reposted us. Joe Johnson says Dylan Harper has a prime. Has the opportunity to be a prime James Harden potential. He would average 22, 23 points a game his rookie season if he had the same freedom. Did James play defense?

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, not. Not like Harper, bro.

[Joe]

But, oh, Harper should hope that when his son career is over, he's a top 75 player. Yeah, we weren't trying to be dismissive. You was praising him. You see something in this kid that he could say, you know what he has the ability to be offensively what James Harden was. We were praising him. We wouldn't. When the fact went down, we didn't say, oh, we saying he should be in the starting lineup.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that.

[Joe]

But see, when you just listen to clips and not listen to the meat of what you and I was discussing, Ocho, this is what you get.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, it's part of.

[Joe]

Nobody was trying to shoot your son down. We was praising your son. We said he was the second best on some nights, the best player on the Spurs. Yeah, I guess you didn't hear that part. Go ahead, Joe.

[Kevin]

He probably didn't. The fact that Joe even think he can be somewhat similar to James Harden if he had the green light to shoot when he want to and. And he can play defense the way he does. Come on now. You can't. You can't ask better than that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey. Look, despite what his pop say that his son, he's special. He's special, bro.

[Joe]

We were trying to. We were trying to. We thought we did a good job of conveying. You did. Having played the game, having looked at James Harden game. They're both lefties.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Harper already has an NBA body. Harden had to grow into his body. Look at Harden as a rookie and look at Harden now. Look at Dylan Harper. That is a grown man's body.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

He look saying given the same opportunities to have a green light, which is going to be highly unlikely because he's playing with wimy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

But that situation, we're saying he. Joe was saying he has the ability to be as special as Harden. For you to say that knowing what hard is, no matter he might not play no defense. He's one of the great offensive guys in the history of the NBA.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Joe]

He's an mvp. He's led the league in scoring. He's led the league in assists. He's a top 75 player.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And he made it seem like. We say he should be a role player. We're saying that he should start.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

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[Uncle Ocho]

Sky's the limit for that young kid, bro. You know, he just gotta keep putting the work in. And he a little bigger than James Harden, Uncle Ocho.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Like if you watch him, the way he maneuvers around the court and when he does get in the paint, bro, it's like he big boy. He damn near play like he does.

[Joe]

He play through contact. That's Harden. Harden is slippery. Harden is trying to get on edges. No, he trying to play through you. Yeah, he can get on the edge.

[Uncle Ocho]

There you go.

[Joe]

But you look at him, he trying to dunk on, folks.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. He ain't playing. He ain't playing. But he got that, he got that same bag that I think James Harden has. And maybe it is because they both lefties got nice smooth jump shots. His potential is through the roof, bro.

[Joe]

But, but I'm just trying to figure out. So because we say he could be James Harden, we're talking about off. And you talk about the James Harden play defense. No, but he's 1112 time NBA All Star. He's an all NBA player. He's a top 75 player in the history of the game. Yeah, look, don't, don't listen. James Harden is not a defensive guy. But don't demean the guy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Now I agree.

[Joe]

He's a top top 75. He's a top five two guard, all the two guards. He's a top five. Now I don't think anybody's gonna put him over Kobe and Jordan. Now there's been some debate about him and D. Wade. Me personally, I like D. Wade. But hey, to each his own. Some people go like James Harden offensive game is so great. I can't have him no lower Than third. Yeah, okay, fine. But, man, y' all gotta stop this notion, man. Y' all make it seem like every player in the league played lockdown defense like Kobe and Jordan.

[Kevin]

They did. Sure. It's a small. It's a select few, especially in today's game.

[Uncle Ocho]

It is, bro. It is. It ain't but a couple guys who willing to. To do that dirty work because everybody wants to, you know, they want to shoot the threes. They want. They want to score the 25, 30 points a night, don't. It ain't a lot of cats won't do that damn dirty work.

[Joe]

How many guys in the history of the game has been first team all NBA, NBA and all NBA defense? How many guys in the same season?

[Uncle Ocho]

It ain't many, boy.

[Joe]

It's a few, mind you. 1. Robinson, Duncan, Kobe Braun, Jordan.

[Joe Johnson]

How many?

[Uncle Ocho]

It ain't been.

[Joe]

How many first team, all NBA players and all defensive players on the first team in the same season? Giannis, Kawhi. Yeah. I bet you they've been less than 15.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe]

All right.

[Uncle Ocho]

Cause I bet. I bet Scottie Pippen. I just don't think offensively he probably was first team, but defensively, you know, he always made the probably.

[Joe]

Probably. I think he made it maybe twice. I know the year that Jordan retired, you remember the first year, and he almost got him there.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

But it's hard when he played, you got. You got Barkley, you got Malone. I mean, they battling it out damn near every year. And then you get kg, you get Dirk.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yep. Yep.

[Joe]

So it was. It wasn't. It wasn't no easy. It wasn't no easy fix. And there's only five spots on both.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, right.

[Joe]

So there's not a whole lot of guys that can say, you know what? I locked it down on both ends on a nightly basis, offense and defense. But, son, I. Look, I ain't got no problem. I believe every man should praise his son, but I believe you can praise your son. James Harden ain't no. You can say he didn't play no defense, but he's one of the greatest offensive players we've ever seen.

[Kevin]

Officer. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Old Ron Harper here. Anytime somebody say something about his son, he come at a man.

[Joe Johnson]

He.

[Joe]

But even when. Even when somebody tried to praise his son, he still tried to come at him.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kevin]

You know, it's so funny, man, all this time, man, I ain't even know that.

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You didn't.

[Kevin]

Nah. Cause we never talked about it. We just talk about Dylan Harper. We never. We never talked about you know it being Ron Harper's son, we never say nothing like that.

[Joe]

Oh, he's either.

[Kevin]

As soon as you said Ron Hopper nominal,

[Joe]

visibly. He's a.

[Joe Johnson]

He's a.

[Joe]

He's a. He's a good defensive player now.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Joe]

Bronson average 33.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Brunson Average 33. You got 45 in the clothes I gave. Ain't very many people in the four had 40 plus points in the closeout game. I don't know, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

I ain't close our game.

[Joe]

Jordan Giannis got 50 when he closed out Phoenix. Jordan got 45 when he closed out Utah, and Brunson got 45 when he closed out the Spurs.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah,

[Joe]

sometimes, Ron, just take the compliment, bro. Nobody trying to demean your son, Joe. Actually, as a matter of fact, thought so much of your son's game that he said he had a chance to be hardened if given the opportunity. That's praise. That is praise. We talked about it. We believe, like, man, this man need to be in the starting lineup or at least playing more minutes than what they're giving him. Okay? You giving him 25, 27 minutes, you got to bump that up to 30, 35. The last game he played, 31 minutes, that should have been 36, 37.

[Uncle Ocho]

And guess what? Guess what, Uncle Osho. We talking about a damn rookie. That's 20 years. That's 20 years.

[Joe]

That's what you think of him, Joe?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Having played the game as long as you played, played at the level at which you played, you think that much of that man's game, seeing him as a rookie, that you say, you know what? I think given the opportunity, he could be. He could be. He have a game similar to James Harden.

[Uncle Ocho]

No question. No,

[Joe]

I just want to see him in the start lineup. I don't care. I don't care. Earn. He'd have earned him. I mean, if this ain't earned, if his play this year as a rookie and what he's done in the playoff didn't earn him the right to start, well, I don't know what he can do.

[Uncle Ocho]

Me neither.

[Joe]

He'll be.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, I'm telling y', all, they gonna find a way. Him and Fox, they gonna be in the damn backcourt together.

[Joe]

So what? What we gonna do with Castle?

[Uncle Ocho]

It's gonna be Fox. Castle and Harper and Harper.

[Joe]

So they go. So they're gonna have a three guard lineup?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, they gonna get three. Cause, see, Castle and Harper, they play a lot bigger than they size. You know what I'm saying? They play like they about six, nine. Hell, them boys. Them boys play big. You gonna. And then you probably keep the way Champenney shot the ball here. You gotta. You always want a guy like that. But I like Vasile, too.

[Joe]

I do, too.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, you got a good problem on your hand.

[Joe]

It's gonna be. I don't know about a good problem because, hey, there's only so many shots to go around.

[Uncle Ocho]

Joe, man, when I say good problem, think about some of the teams here who come to every season thinking, oh, man, we just want to be better this year. And getting their eyes beat out every. Every damn night, man, please. Hey, you can kind of pick and choose what you want to do. If you saying, Antonio, you know, to stay on the right trajectory, you got a bunch of young guys. Your oldest guy in the starting lineup here was. And that's who for sale. Yeah, man, please.

[Joe]

But it's gonna be. It's gonna be. It's gonna be very interesting to see how they put this thing together. I think they're hungry. I think they got a sour taste in their mouth. They're like, bro, we led every single game by double digits, and we lost all these games except one.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm talking about big leagues, too. Yeah.

[Joe]

Double. 29 points. 16 points. 13 points. And I think the thing. If the inexperience really hurt them.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Because they didn't have somebody to calm them down. I don't think their coach did them any favors. We can say. I think. I think two things can be true. I think the inexperience hurt them. Not having someone to call them calm them down. And I don't think the coach. I don't think. I think Mike brown out coached Ms. Johnson.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah. That's not.

[Joe]

That's not enough. Because only been coaching basically a year and a half.

[Uncle Ocho]

If that took over from Pop.

[Kevin]

Yeah, You. You. Hey, hey, Joe, you can't. You can't blame Coach. You can't blame Mr. Johnson a little bit. The extension of the code, the extension of the coach. Coach is on the court. It was a veteran in Fox. He's supposed to dictate play.

[Uncle Ocho]

I agree.

[Kevin]

When to speed it up, when to slow it down. Calm down.

[Joe]

They.

[Kevin]

They constantly making mistakes back and forth.

[Joe]

Let them go on a 20 to four run before you call a timeout. See, stuff like that.

[Kevin]

Yeah. I mean, yeah, we can't blame the code. We got to blame the people.

[Joe]

Hey, but, hey, what about the substitutions? What about the rotations?

[Karen from My Favorite Murder]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

You got.

[Joe]

Who's running rotations?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Who can't put Luke Cornett in. And every time you're in a negative. Yeah, you see what you call him, dear. He brought Landry Shaman in instead of Miles. Miles McBride being the first off the bench. Landry Shammit with the first off the bench.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

You see, when Cat got in trouble. Hey, Mitchell Robinson got filed trouble. He put. He brought another guy in and then he brought another big in. See, it's the game within the game. Yeah, I understand that. Look, the guy. Once you get on the court, but you got to be able to like. You know what? Hey, I don't see it enough. Hey, this thing about to get. Hey, let me go kick it. Hey, ain't nothing run. Let me take a time out. Time out.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, you got.

[Joe]

Hey, look, also those threes that was falling in the first half. Guys, they're not falling now. Let's slack off of taking those threes. They're young teams. Sometimes you have to coach emojo. Put the ball on the floor, get to the. Get a bro. You shooting threes when normally we get to the bonus in six minutes to go in a quarter. Yeah, and we staking threes with 18, 19 seconds on the shot clock. For what? We're up 29. We're not down 29. Yeah.

[Kevin]

Trying to extend. Trying to extend.

[Uncle Ocho]

I remember playing, boy, when Pop was coaching Uncle Ocho, you go on a four old, run his ass calling timeout, he gonna burn all his damn. Hey, folks, that man calling timeout.

[Joe]

Ocho, he going to 6, 0 run to start the game. Papa call a timeout. Hell yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And take his whole five out. That man don't be playing, bro. So I just think when it comes to coaching, you do have to make adjustments. You look at Mike Brown. He was throwing shit at the wall, hoping it stick. He ain't know what he played Alvarado and Brunson together. Hell, he hadn't done that. He hadn't done that.

[Joe]

They put Alvarado in there. Ocho from the 29 point lead. Alvarado played major, major minutes. Yeah, that's coaching.

[Kevin]

Yeah, and that's that. Hold on. Alvarado, that firecracker, he understand the value that Alvarado brings once you get on that court, Joe. Well, he all over the place like the Tasmanian.

[Uncle Ocho]

The thing is, Ocho, he had never played him with Brunson because they make. They have him so small in the backcourt. But hell, that came to be their best lineup.

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, prime example. Look at what Steve Kerr did. He benched Andrew Bogut and inserted Andre Iguodala.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

His starting center.

[Uncle Ocho]

Make him fast.

[Joe]

One of my championship.

[Uncle Ocho]

And it's small.

[Joe]

And guess what? Everybody tried to be small. Everybody tried to have a deaf lineup. Yep.

[Uncle Ocho]

So he was a, he, he made some rookie mistakes as a coach too.

[Joe]

He absolutely did. The Lakers have been connected to both Mitchell Robinson and Robert Williams iii. Per Jake Fisherman, the Lakers have been linked to all sorts of veteran big men in the forthcoming free agent market as well. They could emerge as a suitor for the Knicks, Mitchell Robinson and the Trailblaze. And the Trailblazers, Robert Williams iii. Although sources say both players are very open to remaining in their incumbent roles with the Knicks and the Blazers.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, that, that, that money talking that BS walks a thousand miles. You hear me? Yeah, yeah, you. Hey, I like Robert Williams and I like Mitchell Robinson. You know, both do dirty work that I think the Lakers will need if they wanted to contend in the Western Conference.

[Joe]

But Mitchell Robinson in a starting role, Joe, I mean, think about what you bring him in and you're asking him to do, not be a backup. Now you're going to ask him to play 30 plus minutes a night.

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Yeah.

[Joe]

Can he do that? Considering that he stays in file trouble, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

It'll be an adjustment, uncle, but hell, hey, hey, hey. If I pay you enough, hey, I'm gonna get you down here to la, put you to work real early for the season start. Get you right, get you in some great shape, you know what I mean? Hell yeah. You gonna have to shoot you about 500 to a thousand free throws a day. Cause it's gonna be hard to play you if you shoot them.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

20%, 15% from the free throw line.

[Tab Ramos]

Damn.

[Joe]

It'll help, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Dang it. You got to, you got. Ain't no way you can't, you can't.

[Joe]

Shooting 36%, you're gonna get into 40%.

[Uncle Ocho]

You cannot play nobody real minutes shooting free throws like that, bro.

[Joe]

I know you can.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's gonna be hard. He, Listen, he ain't gonna be able to play a whole lot, especially when you really need him in the fourth quarter. You ain't ready to play nobody like that.

[Joe]

Hacker Robinson.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hello? Hello?

[Joe]

It's, I just, I, I, I, I just don't know. I, I think Mitchell Robinson is great in his role. We've seen, Joe, how many times have you seen guys be great in the role? And all of a sudden they go, they. Now you want to up his role. Ocho, we see it all the time with receivers and running backs, quarterbacks.

[Joe Johnson]

Ooh, back.

[Joe]

Oh, Boy, that Joe slinging it. Ooh, boy, if he got his own team.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I mean, damn, if he don't put his pants down and on the feet every time.

[Kevin]

You know, most time players, when they play a role, they're. They're consistent because it's just a role now. You got to be the lead man, the lead character. Everybody not.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's an adjustment, bro.

[Kevin]

Hey, everybody adjustment.

[Joe]

We talked about this, Joe. What's the greatest killer of careers?

[Uncle Ocho]

Expectations.

[Kevin]

Expectations.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

The expectation for Mitchell Robinson in New York would be vastly different than the expectations in la.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah. You ain't got no pressure coming off that in New York. You just gotta bring energy and effort, get you come to la, bounds four

[Joe]

points and head on back to the. Oh, Mitch, you did great. Great job. He high five at everybody.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, you come to la. Damn. Four points ain't gonna get. It is hard.

[Joe]

No, hell no. Because they're gonna need him to be a lot. I mean, Luca gonna probably throw in four lobs a night.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Well, that can't say he got better hands than Ayton, that's for damn sure. I was 89 and she had better hands than eight.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, man, come on. Come on, man. Look, defensively it'll take the. It'll take the Lakers to another level, I think. Defensively, having that interior prison. But offensively, yeah, he a live threat, but damn, unless he really work on this game, Uncle Ocho, damn, it's going to be tough.

[Joe]

I agree.

[Uncle Ocho]

Unless he just dominating defensively. I'm talking about 15 boys a night, four blocks a night, like some crazy Dennis Rodman type of stuff.

[Joe]

He could do that, Joe, if he stays out of foul trouble. His problem that he picks up so many ticky tack fouls because he's not the fleetest of foot, so he's in awkward position. So he files a lot.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin]

Hold on. He get him early too. Yeah, too early.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yo, it's an adjustment. Now don't. Don't get me wrong, bro. I, you know, I know what it's like.

[Joe]

Robert Williams. Ooh, the injury, Joe. I mean, can I, can I trust that Joe?

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, he gave him. He gave him some decent minutes in the postseason.

[Joe]

He gave me.

[Uncle Ocho]

He gave the Portland Trailblazers decent minutes in the pro season and injury history, bro, that's always a gamble. It's always going to be a gamble. But if you, if I'm the Lakers, hell, you gonna have to take that gamble on him, man.

[Kevin]

You need.

[Uncle Ocho]

Listen, you cannot come back into this season thinking just cause you Got damn Jackson Hayes back there. That ain't gonna get it, bro. You're gonna have to come about two more beats.

[Joe]

Jackson Hayes is great in his role. He gonna give you great energy for about 20 minutes a night. He gonna block some shots, he's gonna run the floor. He is what he is. That's what I love about Jack Davis. He is what he is. He ain't taking no shots. He gonna run. You ain't really gotta run no play for him. He just a lot threat. He gonna pick, roll to the basket, flush it down. He'll get offensive rebounds, he'll get put backs. I love that. Knowing who and what I am.

[Karen from My Favorite Murder]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Gotta know it.

[Joe]

And I don't need to have to tell you. You don't. You don't. You hate. You got a nice looking girl. I mean, she fought fine, but I got, you know, I gotta come up with get my palm problems. Uto. What about palm? I ain't got no. But anyway, I got to tell her every day, girl, you know you bad. Girl, you find it. Hey, you know that. You sitting on the dump. You got five. You got 450 to 510cc. You straight.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hello. Hello.

[Kevin]

Yeah,

[Joe]

baby, how does it look on me? Girl, you look good in a paper bag. Throw a pillowcase around your waist, Take this towel and go out.

[Joe Johnson]

You.

[Joe]

You like that? I ain't gotta hype you. I gotta hype you up all the time.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right?

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Kevin]

You know that's their love language. You heard me. They say that's they love language, Uncle Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Some of them

[Kevin]

words of information. If I. If I got to constantly tell you the same thing over and over, you already know it's something wrong with you.

[Joe]

I mean, you come on now. You know you. You are. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hello.

[Kevin]

Look in the mirror.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Bad in the two year old. Hear me? Yeah.

[Joe]

Don't stack like dirty laundry in the dorm room. You don't use the door laundry. Hey, you have people coming over. You remember? You have people. You shove it in the closet. You don't want nobody to see it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hello.

[Joe]

You walking around like two volleyballs cut in half in the back. Oh, just bouncing the sundress, man. Please.

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[Joe]

But okay. I mean, Joe, you like that trade. So they say. All right. Ch go chess.

[Uncle Ocho]

They bring A.D. back.

[Kevin]

They la. So a la re la. Hold on. A.D. reeves, Luca, who you five?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hell about no. Ooh.

[Kevin]

But he gonna have to, you know, ad gonna have to go back to the four.

[Joe]

He want to play the four.

[Kevin]

Still need a five.

[Joe]

Ad like playing the four. Because if you look at 80, blessed season in LA is when they had Javale McGee and they had Dwight Howard playing the five, and he was always at the four. And then the last five minutes of the game, he slide to the five.

[Uncle Ocho]

Cause you know why, right? Y' all know why? Because A.D. ain't he. He don't really want to have to do all that damn dirty.

[Joe]

I want to do all that God dang on banging.

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[Joe]

AD Best years in.

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In.

[Uncle Ocho]

In.

[Joe]

In. In New Orleans, they had boogie at the five. They had 80 at the four. Yeah.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yep.

[Joe]

That's what. That's where he's at his best now. Last five minutes of the game. Last six, seven minutes of the game. You want to slide him to the five. That's a whole different. That's a whole different story.

[Kevin]

Yep.

[Joe]

But primarily he wants to be the four.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

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Hi, it's Karen and Georgia from My Favorite Murder.

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We cruised around LA in the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and dove into the fascinating life of actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr.

[Karen from My Favorite Murder]

Want the full story?

[Georgia from My Favorite Murder]

Take a listen, Hedy. She starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon. Do you know a lot about him?

[Karen from My Favorite Murder]

I mean, I watch the Aviator, so I know everything Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed me to know about, but incredible innovator, right?

[Georgia from My Favorite Murder]

She says he's a, quote, very strange man. But they do get along really well.

[Karen from My Favorite Murder]

Give us examples.

[Georgia from My Favorite Murder]

I know they do get along intellectually, and in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings. And she's like, that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of, like, what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy and Lamar and Billie Jean King.

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[Joe]

all summer long the Big 3 Season 94 Games NLA Intuit Dome the night had everything Close game, big scoring performances, injuries, ejection and a forfeit, including the first time in Big Three history a game didn't fully finish. The LA Riot defeated defending champs Miami 305. After Miami had to forfeit, Dwight Howard and Michael Beasley got into multiple scuffles. Beasley was ejected. Lance Stevenson again later ejected after throwing the punch. Miami has already been without Reggie Evans due to injury, so the ejection they didn't have enough players to finish Lance Stevens and Michael Beasley for one game each. For this, they were suspended one game each for their actions during the and after Saturday's game between the Miami 305 and the LA Riot. After reviewing the incident, the league determined that their conduct fell short of the standard of professionalism, respect and sportsmanship expected of all Big Three players. Competition drives our league. We embrace physical play and welcome trash talk. However, fighting of any kind will not be tolerated. Protecting the integrity of the game and the safety of everyone all around the court remains the top priority. Both players have been notified of their suspension terms to ensure Miami 305 can fill the requirement minimum for active roster players. Mr. Stevenson will serve his suspension in week two and Mr. Beasley will serve his suspension in week three of the big three season.

[Kevin]

Big three ain't him, boy, but going at it, huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

Ocho, Ocho. What's up Ocho? Kudos to the Big Three. You know you don't want to see it come to suspensions, but when you a damn repeat offender, bro, you know you did this. Same thing happened last season, bro. It spilled over into the stands. You know what I mean this year because you know the fireworks that's going to come with these two teams playing against each other. They had security there, but still, right? It don't mean nothing, bro. Like what we always talk about. You can't have the damn animals running the zoo now. No, you, you.

[Kevin]

Hey, I like that, Joe. That's a good line right there, Joe.

[Joe]

But you know what that is, Joe? What? Beasley think he can punk Dwight Howard?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Oh, he gonna try. What that is he gonna try? Yes, he gonna try. Dwight. And you know, Dwight just physically opposing, bro. Like, yeah, I'm gonna keep it real. Playing in three on three. Like if you guarding him, it's you, you better have you some damn pads on your ribs and you can. You know what I mean? Cause, right, he throwing them elbows and all that. And you know, Beasley and Lance there, man, you know, they looking for the BS to throw in the game. They throw the BS in the game. It didn't touch in the WWE out there. We ain't even. This ain't even basketball no damn more. So, you know, honestly, I think the suspensions were warning, man. Because when every time these two teams link up and they wrestling and fighting and throwing punches, come on, man. We like the competition, we like the back and forth, the rah rahs and all that, but damn, when it gets to the point to where it ain't even basketball no more, what we doing, bro? Somebody just finna get hurt out here.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, that's it.

[Kevin]

Yeah, you right. You have to keep some level of professionalism in it. But obviously when those two, when those two play, when Lance Stevenson and them boys get on the court, man, people want to see that. People, people want to tune in. People want to watch. Not, not for, not for the shenanigans, but the unpredictability. You never know what's going to happen.

[Uncle Ocho]

The antics. They know it's going to be antics. That's why these people listen. I'm like, damn. I'm sitting there watching the game, you know, and you know it's competitive because these are two of probably the best teams that's going to be in the league this year. Talent wise. There's not many they can really stack up against him. But, man, when you, when you had it, when you have it going down like this and we can't watch a good competitive game. Yeah, man, you got to take matters in your own hand. Shout out to Cube now, bro.

[Joe]

I don't think he had a choice, Joe. He didn't.

[Uncle Ocho]

He didn't.

[Joe]

They.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, listen, people were voicing and asking for this last season when they played the first game and they started tussling and all that. People were saying, man, you got to start suspending these Guys, because if you don't, they gonna continue to do it because they know there's no repercussions behind it. You feel me?

[Kevin]

Right?

[Uncle Ocho]

So now.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

The same damn thing happened this year. You right, Unc. You have no choice. You have no choice.

[Joe]

Look, they got the tussling, and each time it gets a little. It goes a little further, it escalates a little more. And then you. I mean, you don't. You know, look, you don't want, you know, people to just be all. Just out there swinging.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So I think Cubes like, look, guys, we want you to play physical. It's a physical game. It's three on three. It ain't no full court. You right there. The court's only so big, right? But we got to have a level of decorum. We got to have a level of sportsmanship. We got to have a level of professionalism, because at the end of the day, sponsors don't want to see that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ocho, this national televised on cs, bro. This ain't like this. It ain't like, you know, they playing on some local channel to where it ain't but a few thousand people, bro. They on cbs national stage. You know what I mean, man, Them people don't want to see that.

[Kevin]

Nah. And, you know, Cube work too hard to even get. Get it to this point, to grow the big three, to have it as big as it is. Everybody wanting to watch, going from, you know, state to state, city to city, you know, to have them out there acting a fool.

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[Uncle Ocho]

And. And we still trying to grow the league, bro. We trying to take it to new heights. And it's like, damn it, If. If I'm a viewer and I'm watching, I'm looking at the product y' all got out there on the floor. I'm thinking to myself, well, damn, is this what I want to watch every weekend?

[Joe]

Why you fake David Stern? The league didn't take off to David Stern, clean up all that fighting. Yeah, go ahead. Y' all keep fighting.

[Uncle Ocho]

I got something for you. 70.

[Joe]

It was a free. It was anything going to 70s, anything early 80s. Dave Sturgeon said, man, later for this. How we go? How. How are we supposed to have people. And now. Because at least it was tape delayed, a lot of people didn't get an opportunity to see it. Now this thing live, right? And y' all behaving in this manner. 5 games, 10 games. 15. 20 games, 30 games, 40 games.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

3 million.

[Uncle Ocho]

5 million.

[Joe]

10 million. 15 million.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

All of a sudden, you know, guys don't want to bite no more,

[Kevin]

you know? You know, you know, that's the one thing, Joe. They know how to. Listen. We paying you millions of dollars, right? We know how to control you. We know how to control you. We gonna take what we, we gonna take what we think you value most. We coming to get that money. That'll keep your ass lying.

[Uncle Ocho]

Listen, in the NFL, I know they got fine money in the NBA, man. I wonder how much of the fine. When I was playing in Brooklyn, I think they said the fine money that they had accumulated over the years was at like almost like 60 or almost 60, 70 million, something like that. Something crazy.

[Kevin]

And where it went, Joe, where it go?

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't know.

[Joe]

But I bet they give the money to charity. In NFL, Joe, you gotta realize guys getting. You got charity game. Think about it. There's game every week and there's multiple players getting fined every single week.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah. Big dollars.

[Joe]

Socks or illegal tackle, illegal block in the back, something every single week from the preseason all the way through. Ain't no telling, right? And you know, they, they say NFL says they give it to, you know, cancer research. Lombardi research stuff. I don't know.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right, right. Hey, hey. That's a lot of money just to be sitting there.

[Kevin]

Hey, put, put. Pull the numbers on that. I guarantee it's in somebody pocket.

[Joe]

I mean I, I think you could find, I think you can find it. I think they got like seven, eight charities that they list. I'm just saying what they say, Ocho. Don't start me lying. I wouldn't know for sure. DMV trilogy look like they may be on the bounce back. Joe. They defeat Detroit Amps 5,146. James Johnson in his inaugural big three debut had 17 points. Earl Clark also has 17. Good bounce back tone at the trilogy. Had a down 20, 25 season.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah. Yeah. Hey, hey. Shout out to Stephen Jackson. Let me tell y' all something. One thing about Stack Jack, he gonna go out there and get him some life size guys and he gonna get him some dogs. He gonna go get him some. He gonna go get some boys. He gonna go in the foxhole with. You know what I mean? That he know when it come push come to shove, 305 come out there with all that with trilogy.

[Joe]

They ain't coming out there with James Johnson out there. Ain't nobody doing none of that. Hello.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's what I'm trying to tell you. That what I'm trying to tell you. Stack Jack. No, he like, look, I'm going to Recruit me a dog or two, boy. Cause, hey, I'm gonna tell you, playing in the big three, bro, it's so physical, bro. You gotta have guys like that. And if they can score and be that dog, oh, man, you. You got you a gold mine. Now, you know, everybody ain't gonna be no ISO. It ain't but one ISO.

[Joe Johnson]

You know,

[Uncle Ocho]

just saying. It ain't but one ISO. Hey, hey, hey. The six years I'd have played in the big three, three years I've been mvp. I had one.

[Joe]

Hey, you done been three MVP three times.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, the only. The only three time mvp. But that's a story for another day. We ain't gotta talk about that.

[Joe]

So there's gonna be a four time MVP.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, God. I was gonna win MVP last year with that 30 I kept in my back pocket. You hear me?

[Joe]

Before them.

[Kevin]

Joe, you can't.

[Uncle Ocho]

Before them boys hurt me. Them first two games I had 30 in my back pocket every night I was gonna win.

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm gonna run away with all this.

[Joe]

So you just. Long you've been there you go be the MVP every year.

[Uncle Ocho]

Listen, and them boy can't have no fun unless I ain't playing. I gotta be sitting on here with y'.

[Erin Andrews]

All.

[Uncle Ocho]

I gotta be sitting here hanging out with y', all, you know? I mean, if it wasn't for that, I'm gonna have 30 in my back pocket. Okay, Ocho. That's how I'm coming to the game, man. You know what I mean?

[Kevin]

Hey, I got. Hey, hey, hey.

[Joe]

Well, we gotta have to come down there and train you to get right.

[Kevin]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe. I get. I get your leg back, right? Come on, man. I get.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's getting right. It's a slow process. It's okay. Ain't in no rush.

[Kevin]

I want to see you play. I want to see you. I want to see you play. I had. Hey, I had that thing.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm gonna be right. Don't worry, Ocho. Don't worry.

[Kevin]

So you're not. Hey, you think you're coming back this season at all?

[Uncle Ocho]

My doctor told me. He said around September is when I'll be feeling probably like a hundred. Like I really want to play. That's the end of the season. Season ain't but three months here. September, the playoffs will be starting. You know what I mean?

[Kevin]

Hey, Joe, you know what? I don't like your doctor.

[Uncle Ocho]

Why you don't like him?

[Kevin]

I don't like. I don't. I don't. I don't like his assessment on what?

[Uncle Ocho]

You got the best interest for me, Ocho. You ain't got to like it.

[Kevin]

I got the best interest in you.

[Joe]

I want you to.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, you don't. You ain't got my best interest right now. You ain't got my best interest. My doctor got my best interest.

[Tab Ramos]

I do.

[Kevin]

And the faster you get healthy, the faster I get to whoop your ass.

[Joe]

The Hawks team doctor did your surgery, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[Kevin]

Oh, you had surgery, Joe?

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, man. Where that man been at, huh?

[Kevin]

Hey, you ain't telling me they had to cut you off?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I told my.

[Joe]

Yeah, you gotta reattach a patella, man.

[Kevin]

Oh, man, Joe, I could have did that for.

[Uncle Ocho]

What you mean you could have done it?

[Kevin]

Why, Joe, boy? You know, I was a little surgeon back in the day, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Uncle. Uncle.

[Kevin]

Hey, nah, Joe, listen, I didn't. Did. I did a butt lift. You know, I done put some CCs

[Uncle Ocho]

in the shoes, and they picking up people who doing that in their house too now.

[Kevin]

Hey, Joe. Hey, I do it right now.

[Uncle Ocho]

One of them janky ass procedures.

[Tab Ramos]

Nah, it ain't.

[Kevin]

It ain't janky. Cause I ain't had no complaints yet.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay. Okay. All the people still alive.

[Kevin]

Yeah. Look at you, boy. You don't see my work? My work be right on my hip.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, okay, okay.

[Kevin]

Yeah, I did all that. That's my work hurt, huh? You think I. You think I'm gonna pay for that?

[Karen from My Favorite Murder]

All right.

[Kevin]

Hey, Joe. Hey, honestly, Joe, I mean, I can say it publicly now. I didn't. Did about three, four, fat.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, that's. Hey, that's been. That's been the big thing going around now, huh?

[Kevin]

Yeah, yeah. Cause it's natural, Joe. You know, it's natural. You know, you slap it, you still get that same weight so they still

[Uncle Ocho]

feel like it's theirs. You know what I mean? Versus.

[Kevin]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Most definitely. Most definitely. You know, I kind of messed up, too. Cause somewhat I thought it was an investment for me, but it's more than investment for them. And what you call it, Fattening the frog. For what?

[Joe]

Fat the frog for another snake, D.

[Kevin]

Hey, fatten the frog for another snake, Daddy. Goddamn snake got my goddamn frog, huh? Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, but you know. Hey, hey, Joe, it is what it is.

[Joe Johnson]

I get it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, I get it. I get it.

[Joe]

This man said he done did a fast transfer. He done put some ccs in there. Yeah, you go on top of the muscle, you go under the muscle. Ocho, I got.

[Kevin]

I go under. I do it professionally.

[Tab Ramos]

Huh?

[Kevin]

I do A hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Kevin]

Right at the bottom, so you can't see.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, okay.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin]

Right. Right up under there.

[Joe]

You might go through the armpit.

[Kevin]

Yeah, I could do that, but that's. I, I, I'm the YouTube video I watched to be able to do it. Insurgents. They didn't do it that way. They did it. They did it from the bottom.

[Joe]

Okay. Yeah, you got to make sure they, they. They write, one ain't hiding the other. And they separated just right.

[Kevin]

Yeah, Yeah, I get it. Right. I get it. Right.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, you got to hide it. Hey, hey, hey. Cause when they did. When they, when they fixed my orbital bone, they went up through my lip, you know what I mean?

[Joe]

Absolutely. Going through. Yeah.

[Kevin]

God damn joke.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. So they don't. So they don't leave no scar on your face.

[Joe]

Yeah, I had the same thing.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Kevin]

Through your lips.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. 18 screws in three plates. Ocho still in there.

[Kevin]

Hey, Joe, you still want to fight me and you got.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's how I tell him. It's stronger than the other side.

[Kevin]

I know, but what happened when I knocked.

[Uncle Ocho]

You ain't gonna knock.

[Karen from My Favorite Murder]

You.

[Uncle Ocho]

You ain't gonna touch me, bro. And I already told you.

[Kevin]

Hey, hey, hey. You robocop. Well, I'm gonna knock that loose, boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, you gonna be sleep. You gonna be sleep by the time you get up in there. Yeah.

[Joe]

The Chicago triplets beat the Houston Rigs Hands 51:47. Amir Johnson had the performance of the night, 26 points. Chicago was shorthanded with Montrez Harold and Leandro Barbosa out with injury. The triplets played only three players and still won.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, triplet. Triplets got a nice squad. You know, you. When you got guys who've been playing in the big three for over five, six years, bro, they know the type of shape they have to be in. They know the physicality to bring. So the triplet's gonna be there. When it comes to, like, making the playoffs and being there at the end, they was in the championship game last season and end up losing, but they got some good players, bro. They got guys who play hard, they unselfish, and they play the right way. At the end of the day, when you playing the game of hoops, bruh, you want guys who can make other guys better, who gonna play the right way. Cause we all out here playing hard. We all want to win. You know what I mean? And when you got guys out there being selfish and ain't passing the rock ain't playing the right way, it's hard playing with cats like that, bro.

[Joe]

The Dallas power beat the Boston Ball Hog 51 43, the biggest win margin of the week. Elijah Stewart led Dallas with 17. Greg Monroe added 14. The Dallas look balanced and physical. You like Dallas, Joe?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I like Dallas, bro. Grig Monroe alone. You got, you know, you got young Glenn Rice, you know, he got plenty of game. And I like Elijah. Elijah, number 44 out there, high energy, played the right way to won the championship in the Big three. So they got guys who hungry and want to prove, you know, prove the league wrong. You know, people have been counting pow wow for quite some time, but they've been able to make adjustments and add different players, you know, to their team. And they got Nancy Lieberman. That's my girl, bro. She do a hell of a job. Super, super cool individual. I love her.

[Joe]

I love her.

[Uncle Ocho]

I love her squad. They take on her demeanor, too. I don't know, you know, uncle, I know you probably seen her play when she was coming up. I know Ocho ain't seen no play, but she fiery. I'm talking about. She still talk a lot of mess right now to this day.

[Joe]

I think she had a trial for the NBA.

[Uncle Ocho]

She did. She played with him back? Yeah, yeah. He had some game boy.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah. She can handle the rock.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe]

Tune in for nightcap all season long for our big three game recaps from the big three. Our big three got you covered for that big three.

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[Karen from My Favorite Murder]

Hi, it's Karen and Georgia from My Favorite Murder.

[Georgia from My Favorite Murder]

We cruised around LA in the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and dove into the fascinating life of actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr.

[Karen from My Favorite Murder]

Want the full story? Take a listen.

[Georgia from My Favorite Murder]

She starts dating Howard Hughes and in fact she helps him design a faster plane. So she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy and Lamarr and Billie Jean King.

[Karen from My Favorite Murder]

Presented by the Hyundai Ioniq 5.

[Georgia from My Favorite Murder]

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