Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Jalen Brunson & Knicks NBA Championship + UFC Freedom 250 Reaction

Summary

Nightcap – Deebo & Joe Part 1: Jalen Brunson & Knicks NBA Championship + UFC 250 Reaction

Date: June 15, 2026
Hosts: James “Deebo” Harrison & Joe Hayden

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Episode Overview

This episode of Nightcap kicks off with an unfiltered and lively recap of the 2026 NBA Finals, as Deebo and Joe break down the New York Knicks' historic championship win over the Spurs, with special emphasis on Jalen Brunson’s heroics. They debate the causes of the Spurs’ epic collapse and the coaching conundrums that defined the series. The show then pivots to instant reactions from UFC Freedom 250, spotlighting devastation inside the Octagon. A hilarious detour details Joe’s misadventures in an over-35 men’s basketball league, bringing personal humility and classic locker room banter.

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NBA Finals: Knicks Crowned, Spurs Collapse

Knicks' Victory and Immediate Fallout

[04:22 – 06:05]

• Joe and Deebo open by talking about chaos in New York after the Knicks win: “New York…they ain’t know how to act, bro.” (Deebo, 04:26)
• Deebo rattles off details of the celebrations-turned-riot: dozens arrested, buses burned, police injured.
• Both hosts tease each other about their NBA Finals predictions. Deebo admits he got the winner wrong but forecasted a gentleman’s sweep: “I was right about something. Four, one. Wrong team.” (Deebo, 05:13)

Breakdown of Knicks' Performance & Brunson’s Brilliance

[06:05 – 09:12]

• Joe is effusive about Jalen Brunson: “Big body Brunson, big body buckets.” (Joe, 07:07)
• He marvels at Brunson’s “little dude” stature leading to a championship: “For me to look at him to go win the championship, beat the Spurs four to one, gentleman sweep. I just got to stand there and be like, this Knicks, Jalen Brunson—oh my God. You did that.” (Joe, 08:24)
• Details of Game 5: Knicks score 48 points, Brunson scores 45 alone.
• Joe: “He was giving Wemby body, body, big body, layup…I was like, stand up, JB. So they got to put so much respect on his name.” (Joe, 08:38)

Spurs’ Historic Collapse: Who's to Blame?

[09:12 – 14:27]

• Deebo rails against the Spurs’ inability to hold big leads: “I guarantee you this is the first time in NBA history that you have had a team that has had double digit leads in every game and still lost the series four one.” (Deebo, 10:40)
• Both agree: the series was lost as much by Spurs’ coaching as Knicks’ skill.
• “If you're coach, call timeouts when you are…stop the bleeding. And Dylan Harper is a dog right now…but you got to go with the hot hand.” (Joe, 11:59)
• Deebo lays into the lack of adjustment: “Coach, stop letting the dude that you know can beat you beat you and make them force somebody else to do it.” (Deebo, 13:45)
• “Both. Jalen was balling. Coach wasn't doubling them. He's going to keep dogging you. Stop the bleeding. Send two. Get it out of his hands.” (Joe, 14:15)

Tension Between Credit and Critique

[15:13 – 16:16]

• Joe praises the Knicks at last: “New York…Congratulations. I'm happy for Jalen Brunson. The city, they said they was going to need the marshals…53 years. It’s a long time.” (Joe, 15:15)
• OG Anunoby’s tipping moment is called “crazy” (Joe, 15:22)
• Deebo, ever critical, turns to what’s next for the Spurs, highlighting a need for leadership and weight training for Wemby.

Future Outlook: Spurs & Coaching

[19:09 – 24:57]

• Joe: “I’m giving them for show. At least one more year…I'm not firing him.” (Joe on Spurs coach, 19:15)
• Deebo: “If you get double digits and you lose…you on the chopping block.” (19:22)
• The pair discuss player development, leadership, mindset, and in-game adjustments.
• Deebo: “History was made here, Joe. This is a historic collapse. No team in the NBA has done this. Been up double digits in every game they played and got beat 4 to 1.” (Deebo, 24:40)
• Joe argues, “That means the Knicks are statistically one of the best teams in history, too.” (Joe, 24:57)

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UFC Freedom 250 Reaction: Pure Violence

Gaethje’s Stunning KO & Combat Respect

[26:30 – 31:45]

• Deebo marvels: “That boy, Justin Gaethje, he upset…he knocked that man out, man. The man couldn’t even come out, dude.” (Deebo, 26:37)
• Joe adds: “When I’m watching this UFC, the level of respect that I have for these combat sports…now you talking about getting put to sleep, Debo.” (Joe, 28:05)
• Both discuss the intensity and danger of MMA: “You’re going to go somewhere tomorrow and somebody’s going to say, wow…hey, look, dude, nuts.” (Joe, 30:13)
• On trainers’ responsibilities: “That’s what you gotta have people in your corner that love you. Otherwise, you would really be out there getting your head drum boy and not really know.” (Joe, 31:54)

Dangers of Chasing Greatness Across Weight Classes

[32:28 – 34:44]

• Deebo: “You talking about, you know, used to fighting at 205 with the power…that 205 don’t hit the same as that 245 at 250.” (34:09)
• Joe: “There’s weight classes for a reason. And sometimes you just gotta stay where you at for a second and just be good where you at.” (33:46)

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Personal Anecdotes: Joe’s Men’s League Nightmare

Old Heads vs. Reality Check

[39:00 – 45:41]

• Joe recounts signing up for a 35+ basketball league, expecting “old heads” and “just chilling.”
• The reality: “First half score, 61 to 24…down by 40.” (Joe, 42:45)
• “They were the Knicks. The Knicks flew in and that’s who we played in the 35 and up league.” (Joe, 42:51)
• Joe: “We got mercy ruled, Deebo. In the third quarter, when the horn went off at halftime, we was ready to shake hands.” (Joe, 43:04)
• Deebo’s laughter and disbelief runs throughout.

Stat Lines & Excuses

[47:23 – 48:56]

• Joe tries to justify: “I was getting to my spot. Me and all of my dogs, we was getting to our spot. We just wasn’t hitting it the way it needed to go.” (Joe, 47:23)
• Deebo: “You sure it wasn’t them hands in your face on them shots?” (Deebo, 48:28)
• Team coaching? “It’s a team unit. I’m the captain. I’m the captain.” (Joe, 48:47)
• Deebo: “The coaching and the playing, the false belief in the players that you have from the coach and the players in themselves, everything.” (Deebo, 48:56)

Humbled

[51:37 – 52:42]

• Joe admits: “I really can’t tell you and explain to you how I really, really thought it was going to be the complete opposite situation I was walking into.” (Joe, 52:28)
• Deebo closes the segment with blunt honesty—he’d have left and dissociated himself with that level of losing: “I left. Made like I wasn’t even part of that shit.” (Deebo, 52:08)

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Notable Quotes by Timestamps

On Knicks’ achievement:

• “For me to look at him to go win the championship, beat the Spurs four to one…Jalen Brunson—oh my God. You did that.” – Joe, [08:24]
• “He was giving Wemby body, body, big body, layup…” – Joe, [08:38]

On Spurs’ collapse:

• “I guarantee you this is the first time in NBA history that you have had a team that has had double-digit leads in every game and still lost the series four one.” – Deebo, [10:40]
• “No, you didn’t dominate. Stop using words...Dominance is a start to finish.” – Deebo, [10:48]

On fighting:

• “That boy, Justin Gaethje…knocked that man out, man. The man couldn’t even come out, dude.” – Deebo, [26:37]
• “You’re going to go somewhere tomorrow and somebody’s going to say, wow…hey, look, dude, nuts.” – Joe, [30:13]

On personal defeat:

• “First half score, 61 to 24…down by 40.” – Joe, [42:45]
• “I left. Made like I wasn’t even part of that shit.” – Deebo, [52:08]

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Key Moments & Timestamps

• [04:22] – Beginning Knicks/Spurs breakdown
• [08:24] – Jalen Brunson praise crescendo
• [10:40] – Deebo’s “historic collapse” argument
• [14:15] – “Stop the bleeding”—coaching critique
• [26:37] – Joe & Deebo’s UFC 250 reactions
• [34:09] – Weight class discussion (UFC)
• [39:00] – Joe’s men’s league story launches
• [42:45] – “Down by 40”–Joe gets humbled
• [47:23] – Joe’s stat line & excuses
• [52:08] – Deebo on ditching a losing team

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Tone & Delivery

• High-energy, boisterous, locker-room storytelling
• Direct, unvarnished opinions (and friendly roasting)
• Casual language, frequent overlapping and “man, listen” interjections
• Both hosts balance humor with pointed sports analysis

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Takeaways

• The Knicks made history not only by winning a long-awaited title, but by overcoming historic deficits, thanks to Jalen Brunson's incredible play.
• The Spurs’ collapse is as much about coaching and adjustments as talent.
• The brutality and strategy of both NBA and UFC worlds shine in the frank, humorous banter.
• Even pros get humbled—sometimes at a local gym, not an arena.

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For listeners who missed it, this Nightcap episode paints the full picture: celebration and collapse, triumph and trauma, both on the professional stage and in the neighborhood gym.

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[Joe Hayden]

I'm doing good, brother. Debo. Doing great, man. How are you?

[James Deebo Harrison]

I'm doing good, man. I'm doing, I'm doing real good, man. New York, you know, they, they, they was doing real good until they won and then they just ain't know how to act. I told you them boys ain't know how to act, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

Man, listen, it ain't even, it ain't even.

[James Deebo Harrison]

It ain't even them. It's the fans, bro. They don't know. Immediately, immediately. 64 people got arrested, stabbed. Four people. No had a shooting, shot. One person. They, they burnt up. What was it? Four, five buses or something like that. They destroyed police vehicles and they messed up. 10 officers, 10 officers reported injuries.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay, can we talk, can we, okay, can we talk about, can we talk about the good first or we just gonna go to. We gonna go to the bad.

[James Deebo Harrison]

This is all bad. I ain't want them to win. Hey, listen, I was right about something. Joe, you was right about.

[Joe Hayden]

They did. They don't know.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I was right about something. Four, one. Wrong team.

[Joe Hayden]

Gentlemen, gentlemen. Sweep the wrong way.

[James Deebo Harrison]

It was the wrong team. It was just the wrong team.

[Joe Hayden]

It was just the wrong squad.

[James Deebo Harrison]

It was the wrong squad.

[Joe Hayden]

Did you see the last game? Did you see Jalen Brunson, though? Deebo.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Dude, it didn't matter. It didn't matter, man. The spurs, they couldn't do nothing, bro. Like, I don't. They could. Listen, I don't understand. This is actually starting to like, make me a little upset, bro. How do you have five, five double digit leads in all these games? Yo, Lois was 12. They had a 12 lead. I think that was game two. 14 was in game one. They had 16 somewhere around there. Game three and then four. Like, y', all. I don't know how you do that. Y' all had an opportunity right there to just go ahead and make that thing two, two. And then you lost a 14 point lead in the last one.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, yes. It speaks more on New York. Debo, I hear what. Yes, it does.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Collapse of the spurs, dude.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, my God. You're tripping out of your mind. You're tripping out of your mind. They might not have been ready. The coaching. Right, the coaching. Playing de' Aaron Fox a little bit more. They might not have been ready. But the Knicks going into this, Nobody was expecting this to happen. Nobody. If you would have said, gentleman, sweep off the rip, everybody would have thought we were tripping. Do you not remember the alien? Do you not see what these birds are doing?

[James Deebo Harrison]

Like, I remember all of a sudden, honestly, obviously somebody cannot get together what they need to do after they get into these large leads. So a thousand, if you can get a large lead like that, it's obviously not your players. So it comes at point in time where you got to be like, hey, if your player is not doing well, let me switch him out. Get somebody else in there.

[Joe Hayden]

It takes. You're right.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Hey, let me call a timeout.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes. Yes. It takes a team. It takes two teams. It takes a team to lose and the team to come back. So that team is missing three pointers, not doing what they need to do. Coaching errors, not calling timeouts during the runs, but at the same time, the other team is doing those runs, getting those stops. You know what I'm saying? So I'm looking at it from my perspective. I Hear what you're saying, Deebo. But we gotta stand here today with the Knicks winning a championship and Jalen Brunson being a little dude, little chubby bruh, big body Brunson, big body buckets.

[James Deebo Harrison]

So I ain't chubby now, y'.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[James Deebo Harrison]

Y' all going out of control. See how y'. All. Y'. All. Y' all lose. Y' all used to somebody being 8ft tall and 200 pounds.

[Joe Hayden]

I mean, look for show. Used to. Braun used to. Braun used to. KD used to. Seeing Kobe like this. Six' six, six' seven. That can got dribble, got handles. I'm gonna be able to shoot over you no matter what. There's nothing you could do. Cause I'm nice and I'm tall and I' I'm athletic, and I can jump and I'll dunk on you. So when you have a dude, like, with Steph Curry, like Isaiah Thomases, the dudes that are below the rim, that are the number one option for a team to go win a championship, I'm just here for it. Because I didn't see if Jalen Brunson did that. He's the max. He's the player on that team. And he took $114 million less so they could get OG so they could have Karl Anthony Town, so they could have Hart in the guys around him. But for me to look at him to go win the championship, beat the spurs four to one, gentleman sweep. I just got to stand there and be like, this. Knicks, Jalen Brunson. Oh, my God. You did that. You know what I'm saying? Like, you a little dude, and I'm watching you give everybody buckets in game five. Your team scores, you score. Your team scores 48 points, and you score 45. You know what I'm saying? Like, it wasn't just. He was. They were getting stops, and they just kept passing it back to Brunson. Like, look, y' all get defensive stops. I'm going to give Wemby a bucket. I don't care who it is. Look, body, body. He gave Wemby body, body, big body, layup. I'm like, oh, my gosh. Kessel, come out here. Whoever wants some, you can get it. And he gave me 45. I was like, stand up, JB. So they got to put some. They got to put so much respect on his name.

[James Deebo Harrison]

So I understand what you're saying. I'm going to put respect on his name. At the same point in time, they dropped down to letting them lead by 14 letting them lead by 12, letting them lead by 16, letting them lead by 29, letting them lead 14 lead in every one of these games they

[Joe Hayden]

was missing, but they got that fight

[James Deebo Harrison]

was there to be able to get the lead. They never out hold on to it. So the problem with holding on to it, it's either game run or coaches.

[Joe Hayden]

It's a game of run.

[James Deebo Harrison]

It's a combination of both problems.

[Joe Hayden]

Combination of both.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I guarantee you this is the first time in NBA history that you have had a team that has had double digit leads in every game and still lost the series four one.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes. I.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Ain't no way in hell that's called a colossal collapse.

[Tab Ramos]

Yes.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay, for sure, two things could be right at once. But them dudes were still getting stopped.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I coached that Joe.

[Joe Hayden]

I say when y' all go out

[James Deebo Harrison]

there and play, man, and then when I feel like y', all, yeah, y' all doing good, I'm gonna let y' all go and Euro step this, do this, do all this bull crap and all this other stuff. And now you wonder why you down because you taking poor shot selections. You going out here and you're not doing the correct things that you need to do. The coach is just sitting back watching it like, hey man, yeah, I'm out 125 times. And then da, da, da.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm with you.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Y do your job and coach and manage.

[Joe Hayden]

Debo. You are correct. The spurs coaching, they should have stopped

[James Deebo Harrison]

the lot more time talking about that crazy stuff. We dominated them for the most part. No, domination is start to finish. You didn't finish. You didn't dominate.

[Joe Hayden]

The spurs coach said dominate.

[James Deebo Harrison]

No, Wimby.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh no, they did not. No, they did not.

[James Deebo Harrison]

He said they dominated for the most part. They dominated them for most of the series. You didn't. That's that Atlantic shit. Oh, we analytically, we won this. We did that. No, you didn't dominate. Stop using words dude, that don't matter like that domination. That's a false word. That's a false word. That you may have controlled parts of the game. You know, you played better than them in parts of the game, but you didn't dominate. Dominance is a start to finish.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm going to go with this. If you're going to place blame on the spurs like they say, I'm going to say the coach coaching with the timeouts, the coaching with playing de' Aaron Fox more instead of Dylan Harper and then the playing wise de' Aaron Fox. If you're in, you are making for your max player. You gotta play better if the coach is giving you these opportunities. So I think de' Aaron Fox needs to play better for sure. But if you're coach, call timeouts when you are, stop the bleeding. And Dylan Harper is a dog right now. I know that De' Aon Fox is your max player, but you got to go with the high hand. So coaching with me is right when you call timeouts and if you see you have another young stud that's out here sniping, flip it. Put him in the game, put him

[James Deebo Harrison]

out, get him in, get him out. Guys making horrible, horrible turnovers at the wrong. Like, you can't, you can't do that, dude. How do you get into the position of like, like, is it, is it dude pressure? I don't know, dude. Like, only person that can call the timeout when the run is going on is the coach. Call the timeout, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

Yep, yep, yep. But I'm telling you, the spurs, when they were getting down all this time, it's cause they were missing shots and they know they.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Long as you understand this, man, as

[Joe Hayden]

long as you keep fighting through, you,

[James Deebo Harrison]

you, you, you're not, you're not, you're not. You're up by 29.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, 29.

[James Deebo Harrison]

If we don't do nothing else but shoot.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, we put a knee on it, we just kneel it one or two,

[James Deebo Harrison]

we win that game. I could have did that. Me and you, Joe, we could have did that. Just make sure we don't hold on to the ball and turn it over and just shoot.

[Joe Hayden]

When they lost that 29 point lead, then game. But game five, just going into game five, Jalen Brunson was on some. He was on a mission. They scored 47. The rest of the team, all other eight players, scored 48 points. He scored 45. They was playing defense. I was literally watching them. Every time they got stops, nobody was looking at the basket. They just kept giving him the ball back because he was going to give anybody who guarded him a bucket. It didn't matter. Like they was going to play D. They knew we're going to eventually get stops. But they was like, man, get a ball to Jalen. He's going to get us through. He's going to take us there. So it looked like when the spurs

[James Deebo Harrison]

get the ball to Jalen, yes, they forgave him. So you ain't the coach, ain't like, hey, let's put somebody else on here. Let's double do something. I mean something.

[Joe Hayden]

He should have blitzed them. They definitely should have blitzed him. You damn right. They should have threw two, but it was. He was giving.

[James Deebo Harrison]

If I know, he's crushing me. Hey, listen, Joe. We know going into a game as the Steelers and we're playing against the Ravens, we cannot let Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson run the ball, period. Make Lamar beat us passing. That's how we have success against him. Anytime they're able to run the ball on us, they smack us. Coach, stop letting the dude that you know can beat you beat you and make them force somebody else to do it.

[Joe Hayden]

Death, yes. It's two. Both. Jalen was balling. Coach wasn't doubling them. He's going to keep dogging you. Stop the bleeding. Send two. Get it out of his hands.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Do something.

[Joe Hayden]

Do something.

[James Deebo Harrison]

You sitting there hoping you gonna be able to hold on to a lead that you ain't been able to hold on to. Y' all got lucky you held onto the one in game three. The dude missed that three. What's his name? Oh, boy. Missed that three. You probably in trouble again. You probably get sweat.

[Joe Hayden]

You ain't lying. New York, though, they got it, look. So we got the player talk out of the way. You're right. New York. Congratulations. I'm happy for Jalen Brunson. The city, they said they was going to need the marshals. They said they was going to need the Coast Guard. People got acted crazy. That's the part I knew. I'm like Deebo. Just don't want to turn a good thing into a bad thing, bro.

[James Deebo Harrison]

They turn. They turn. I told you, man. They ain't all that, man.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm happy for it, man. They did 53 years. It's a long time.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I'm. Yeah, yeah, it's good. It's good. It's good that the team themselves got it.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes. Jalen Brunson, og OG with the tip. The tip? Are you kidding me? Oh, that's crazy. But the tip in from og.

[Tab Ramos]

Wow.

[James Deebo Harrison]

So what's the move? What's the move for the spurs, though? What's the move for the Spurs? What you think spurs go do, man?

[Joe Hayden]

They're young.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I'm saying they're young, bro. So I understand it. So are you gonna continue to use the young?

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[Joe Hayden]

no, no. They know Wimy Wimby, how long are

[James Deebo Harrison]

you giving this head coach? You giving him, you giving him a year? 2, 3, 4? What you giving him?

[Joe Hayden]

I'm giving them for show. At least one more year.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Okay?

[Joe Hayden]

For sure. At least one more year. I'm not firing him. I'm not firing him. I'm. I'm thinking he's going to fire me.

[James Deebo Harrison]

But if you give me anything during the season, throughout the season that you get double digits and you lose it. Yo, yo, you, you on the chopping block.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I need somebody in there that's gonna put some type of instill some type of leadership into these guys to where like hey man, when you got them up, like when you up by 12, it ain't. Hold on. Put your foot on their throat.

[Joe Hayden]

We gotta beat him by.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Turn them out. Beat them to death.

[Joe Hayden]

It's not done.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Don't go out there and get out of your game plan of what you was doing and start acting like no, keep doing what y' all was doing. Do what you did that got you to lead and keep playing like I don't understand, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

I think it's going right now.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I think they to the point to where they get a double digit lead and the second half come, they just like damn, we gonna be able to

[Joe Hayden]

hold on to it.

[James Deebo Harrison]

That's mindset.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, they gotta go for the dagger. I think like I said, it's gonna be like another year. Castle Dylan Harper developing, knowing more. He's going to be a more of a main character role on the team. Wimby getting a little bit of weight on him, you know what I'm saying?

[James Deebo Harrison]

A little bit man.

[Joe Hayden]

Another year. Right?

[James Deebo Harrison]

Hit the weight room right now.

[Joe Hayden]

Weight room right now. Straight from, straight from the bench for 30 weeks to get some weights. Keep your flexibility, keep your mobile. I'm not telling you you got to turn into the most swollest man. Just getting a little bit of, you know what I'm saying? A little def.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Bro. Get, get, get around that 60 you7 fold. Get around that 60, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

A little bit, A little bit. So nobody can just, just don't have a victim weight. Guys down there getting at your lower body, being able to push you off the block. You got, you can't let them push you off the block.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Yeah, you, no, you can't have that.

[Joe Hayden]

Or if you're down there, just shoot right over them. We got to get a little post game a little, just a little bit better post game because he's good with the rolling, but his back, what is

[James Deebo Harrison]

that go matter when you got five double digit leads, lost only one that you were able to hold them because,

[Joe Hayden]

because that, because that's going to slow the game down when you get the ball down in the post. He ain't got to shoot it all the time, but get it, get a touch down on the block. People gonna come down, you can kick it out, you know what I'm saying?

[James Deebo Harrison]

So who tells them? Who tells them, hey, this is what we gonna do. We are by 29. Hey, get down there and make sure you get a good shot.

[Joe Hayden]

No, no, no, no.

[James Deebo Harrison]

He don't have to hold on to the rock. Don't just shoot it.

[Joe Hayden]

No, no, no, no, no. He could be doing that from the beginning. Like his whole flow of the game is outside in more, you know what I'm saying? Just starting from the beginning where they getting up or starting them down on the block more. Being able to start down, lowering the shot clock, burning out some time.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Nigga, I need my towel, man. I'm sweating. I just came from within.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay. Getting that work.

[James Deebo Harrison]

You know, we're always got to get that word, man.

[Joe Hayden]

Man, this. Damn. I can't even. How was your weekend, Debo?

[James Deebo Harrison]

My weekend was. My weekend was all right, you know, I mean, it was good. I'm here. That's. That's a good thing. That's just, you know, I would, it would have been a lot better if they could have figured out a way to, you know, at least pull a game out right there. Like, like, come on, man.

[Joe Hayden]

Remember I said in my mind, I thought the spurs, when we said who you was like, Joe, I don't care who you, what you feel or whatever, like, what do you think's gonna win? I say, honestly, I think the spurs are a better team and I think they're gonna win in seven. But I like the Knicks and I think that they got a good chance to win. You said who you had, you had the spurs in five. Five.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Had em in five. Kicked me in my.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm telling you, listen now. And that's strictly because of coaching. This is the same teams.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Nobody was hurt, nobody destroyed it.

[Joe Hayden]

That's the only.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Okay, Y' all fired the coach that just won, didn't y'?

[Ryan Seacrest]

All?

[James Deebo Harrison]

Mike Brown over there, didn't the cast fire him?

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, we did.

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Huh.

[Joe Hayden]

So basically, if it wasn't for the coach, and that's the only reason why the Knicks won.

[James Deebo Harrison]

No, they had. They had to have the players too, man. Believe me, they had to have the players. But my point is this. You gotta be able to come back. True statement. So you have to have players. But you were at a deficit, which means the players that put you at the deficit should have been able to hold on to it if they were loud and stopped and sped up and slowed down and coached.

[Joe Hayden]

I hear what you're saying, but basketball is all in runs and ebbs and flows and being able to stop the

[James Deebo Harrison]

bleeding, go through it. Timeouts. You got 50 of them, man. Just call one. Put something together, get your team back on. Draw up a play. Hey, go out there and then get a defensive something set up to where y' all can stop somebody. Double up on him, Maybe get a turnover. Like change the tide, change the momentum, do something.

[Joe Hayden]

I hear what you're saying. I just think at the end of the day now, it looks like the better. I think the better team won. The Knicks were a better team than the Spurs. Even though you're saying they ended up getting down and coming back the way that it worked, like down and back up.

[James Deebo Harrison]

That's wild.

[Joe Hayden]

What'd you say?

[James Deebo Harrison]

I said going down that far and

[Joe Hayden]

then coming back up, it's shit happens in the game. It's the NBA. Like there's been. And now with the three point ball, it's leagues get changed.

[James Deebo Harrison]

History was made here, Joe. What? History was made here.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James Deebo Harrison]

This is a historic collapse. No team in the NBA has done this. Been up double digits in every game they played and got beat 4 to 1. No team in NBA history has ever done that.

[Joe Hayden]

That means that the Knicks are statistically one of the best teams in history, too.

[James Deebo Harrison]

That means the Knicks have done something historic. And that means the spurs has done something historic too, and collapsed.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay, both.

[James Deebo Harrison]

See, two things can be.

[Joe Hayden]

Two things can be right. Deebo, you just trying to say how bad that the spurs did. And I agree with you. And I'm still saying at the same time, the Knicks Were balling because they had to still make the stops and still make the runs and still make the plays to come back. Like, the other team, Wemby, Castle, all them dudes were still on the squad. They were still there stopping them. Hart, like, game five. Castle didn't score his first bucket until the fourth quarter. Hart was just playing great defense, just sliding them like, that's just good on good. But got your number that day. That's just like nothing against Castle. Castle going to be a star. He's a ballerina. But Hart strapped you for this day. When it was time to go get. When it's time to go get the ship.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Listen, man, I'm a get. I'm gonna give New York Day credit, but I'm also giving the spurs the same amount of credit for the collapse.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay?

[James Deebo Harrison]

That's like. That's like. That's like when Josh Allen did that comeback on Baltimore. As much credit as you gave Allen, you gave the Ravens for the collapse, too.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, it's. Yes. It takes two to have an epic collapse. You. You're not doing. You're not getting first downs, you're not converting. So you know what I'm saying? Somebody's doing something wrong.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Facts. A lot of something wrong.

[Joe Hayden]

A lot of something.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Check out this. What was the UFC 250 over there at the Whitey White House?

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, man, I'm trying to.

[James Deebo Harrison]

That boy, Justin Gaethje, he upset. What is it, Eliot? He knocked that man out, man. The man couldn't even come out, dude.

[Joe Hayden]

So,

[James Deebo Harrison]

Undisputed lightweight champion. After holding the interim lightweight title on two occasions, Gaethje finally claimed his first UFC undisputed championship.

[Joe Hayden]

Dude.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Bruh.

[Joe Hayden]

Yo, did you see the fight?

[James Deebo Harrison]

Hell, yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Did you see it?

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, I did, bruh.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I ain't gonna lie to you, man. I ain't think he was gonna. I didn't think he was gonna win, but I damn sure anything he was gonna win. Like, that, man, he beat that man into submission.

[Joe Hayden]

It's.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Hey, man, listen. I'm trying to tell you, man. That boy. That boy must have thought that he could. He. He could use his face as a. As something to stop them punches from getting through. He was just. He was taking them all, like, you know, and this is after.

[Tab Ramos]

Who did.

[James Deebo Harrison]

What was it, Taporio?

[Joe Hayden]

He.

[James Deebo Harrison]

He whooped aloe vera, Charles. Aloe vera, everybody. You know what I'm talking about? Knocked him out. What, in the first round or something like that? Yeah, man. And before that, it was. It was Max Holloway. I think he put him down, too. Like this. This young dude was doing it 17 0. And then he was, what, 28, 29, something like that? What's Gaethje like, 34, 35, something like that?

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, Deebo. Well, I tell you this. When I'm out there, when I'm watching this ufc, the level of respect that I have for these combat sports, like, they in there, man on man, whooping, like, kicking, and it's all no holds bar. You can get choked out. You can get kneed. You can get really. Now you talking about getting put to sleep, Debo. And I was watching the earlier fights. You get put to sleep and do you still getting hit while you're asleep until the referee smite them. I'm like that. That whole, like, I'm like, oh, whoa, whoa.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Get him, get him.

[Joe Hayden]

He's. When is he gone? I'm like, oh, my goodness. It gets real, real violent on that UFC mat. So I'm just watching. When I'm watching these jumps, the combat is no joke. And I just got respect for them dudes out there not playing any games. Yo, that's one. That's what place I'm not stepping in. No octagon, no knees, no feet, no bows. Legal bows from professional throwing boat, man. Come on, Debo.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Oh, they doing all that, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

They doing all that.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Like, when to pearl hit that man, when he hit him with that body shot and folded him down to the ground.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what I'm saying. Folded.

[James Deebo Harrison]

He was like

[Joe Hayden]

this. You can see the wind and the breath coming out of him. Yeah, no joke. I'm not.

[Tab Ramos]

That's.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, I was. I, I. I watched the UFC. I was a big. I would love Conor McGregor when he was out there big time, because I like the. The celebratory.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I'm.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm more of the one hit of quitters. I'm not the ones I don't like when they get on the ground and get their heads all on each other and then just bang. I'm like, God, come on, get up. Get up real quick. Get up real quick. I need to see y' all here. When you get on the ground and all that, they just get to roll around. That's ufc. I'm just saying my personal preference, I would like to see them up, you know what I'm saying? I'm more here than when they get on the ground. I'm like, okay, now it's about to miss. Somebody about to get that on the ground.

[James Deebo Harrison]

They about to get something choked out. Put to sleep, choke to sleep, Put them in this mission hole break something. If it don't get broke, if you don't give up before then or whatever it may be.

[Joe Hayden]

It's just brutal. It's just brutal.

[James Deebo Harrison]

You see his face, Debo?

[Joe Hayden]

Yes. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Sometimes I just. That's why some. I'm more of a. You know how bad his face is. I like to fight to end quicker. Because when they out there crazy that I'm like, oh, my God. Like, like, brother, brother, brother. You gonna have to live like your old lady. Your kids gonna have to see after this fight. You're gonna go somewhere tomorrow and somebody's gonna say, wow, hey, look, dude, nuts.

[James Deebo Harrison]

He cannot. It's no way he can see right now.

[Joe Hayden]

No, that's what I'm saying.

[James Deebo Harrison]

He's underneath somebody guiding him around by his hand.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, what's them joints that they were sleeping, the hyperbaric chambers. He got his roll from the barrack to the coast to the cold tub, bro.

[James Deebo Harrison]

He got. You can't. You can't breathe with your face under the water. Like, he got. Just lay with ice on his face, brother.

[Joe Hayden]

He's going to be in there. I'm talking about. He's going to have a straw out of the water. I don't even know how you breathe a spot. He's going to have a scuba joint. I don't know. He's going to have to figure it out because he's lumped up like. Like Martin.

[James Deebo Harrison]

No, he passed that, bro. And he was leaking. He was leaking like a broke faucet, man.

[Joe Hayden]

See, that's what I'm saying, because, Deebo, listen, this is me just personally, when I'm watching the combat is all good. But you telling me when these people be looking, like when they get to the point of unrecognizable face and they still out there, I'm like this. Oh, my goodness. It's just. It's brutal. I'm like, dang. Like somebody. Stop throwing the towel. The man has had enough. The man has had enough. Take your ball and go home, bruh.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Well, that's what his trainers had to do. Like, hey, man.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, that's where he stayed. He stayed in that. He stayed on that seat.

[James Deebo Harrison]

He done took enough of a beat, man.

[Joe Hayden]

Brother, that's what you gotta have people in your corner that love you. Because otherwise you would really be out there getting your head drum boy and not really know. Cause they got that willpower. No, no, no. I'm not going out like that, brother. You might not Come back. So you better just go out real quick, you know what I'm saying?

[James Deebo Harrison]

Like. Yeah, see a beating like that over time, that's the stuff. You know, you get the swelling and all that on the brain and all that.

[Joe Hayden]

You don't even. Yes.

[James Deebo Harrison]

All day.

[Joe Hayden]

Come on, you. We. Yeah, we, man. I be thinking about. Because we. We're hitting all. But they ain't got no helmet on. You getting drummer boy, man.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Alex Ferreira, he got, he got, he got tko. They stopped the fight on that one. Dude. You just 205 to 260 to A, to A, to A 260 weight class, man. And you fighting against what is it gone like it don't. When at the end of that first round when Alex caught him clean and he ate that shit. I said when he ate that breath, he caught him clean. He ate it.

[Joe Hayden]

When he take your best shot, that's deflating.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I said no, man. And Alex wasn't looking like his normal, like, you know, cut up self. Cause he was trying to gain all that weight, man. You going from that, you know, that 205 and then you got. He could have been cutting weight, you know, he was probably cutting to get. Get down or, or possibly like, so he ain't have to worry about no waiting. Alex just sitting up there eating and eating and trying to get up there. You know, everybody want to make history doing the weight class. I think it was 185 then. It was light heavyweight. Heavy, light heavyweight. Or was it welterweight? I don't know. It was 185, 205 and then heavyweight is all the way up to 260. I think that was too fast to jump. Like he was doing this thing at 2. I'd have never left. 205.

[Joe Hayden]

They always wanted to get as many titles and just collecting them and seeing. Trying to switch them weight classes. There's weight classes for a reason. And sometimes you just gotta stay where you at for a second and just be good where you at. Could go around there just trying to eat and get up to where they at. And he just chilling. Like walking around at a certain weight and lift and eating and having to force yourself to get to a certain weight is a little different.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Yeah. And you lose a lot of that power. We got to realize the power that come. I'm talking about, you're talking about, you know, used to fighting at 205 with the power. Like you got a guy that's used to fighting that, you know, up to 260, like the power exchange on that. Now he's trying to lift them weights, you know, get the power to go ahead and hit it. Man, that, that tool, that 205, don't, don't hit the same as that 245 at 250. That's a, that's, that's, that's a different, that's a different monster right there. Like, I ain't. Yeah, I, I thought it would have lasted longer, too.

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[Joe Hayden]

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[James Deebo Harrison]

gonna lie that but yeah, that's, that's that. That show you the big difference. Like it's a brutal, it's a brutal game, baby. When you're up there fighting and well, you chasing, you chasing, you know, you chasing history. Trying to go into three different weight classes and you.

[Joe Hayden]

Like you said, it's classes for a reason, man.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Joe.

[Joe Hayden]

Hey, you know what I gotta tell you, Deebo?

[James Deebo Harrison]

What?

[Joe Hayden]

I gotta tell you something. Cause it's been about the basketball thing and you know, now me being retired, you know, freshly and not too freshly, now I've been. Now I gotta think about it. I've been out of the league. This is gonna be probably my fourth season not playing. So when I'm be like, yeah, it just feels fresh. But it's not. I don't know if it's that fresh third or fourth. So I signed up, you know what I'm saying? For. For basketball league. For men's league.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Oh my God, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

Men's basketball league, right? And we play on. What you doing, Joe? We play, we play on Sunday nights, right? Me, I signed up. Me and my team, me and my family. Everybody Gotta be over 35. I got me. I got my brother Josh. I got my best friend Blue. I got my man Jazz. We played Little League together. And I got my linebacker from my Little League team, Rodney Pittman. We got three other players. But since this is the first game, people out of town, you know what I'm saying? So I only had five, you know, so first game was yesterday. Sunday, 8:30, you know what I'm saying? At the middle school, you know what I'm saying? Cool. Joan. So me and my at night, at night, 8:30 at night. Sunday nights, you know what I'm saying? Grown man league.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Cool.

[Joe Hayden]

Sunday nights, you know what I'm saying? Games at 7:30 and 8:30.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Damn.

[Joe Hayden]

Game at 7:30. Game at 8:30. So our game happened to be at 8:30. I don't know who's gonna go. I'm expecting it's gonna be older dudes at 35 and older. So I made sure I got the oldest league. It's a 21 and older league. It's a 30 and older league, and it's a 35 and older league. I'm like, I'm trying to go play with the 35 and ups now. I want no young bulls in the joint. I'm trying to be right around, like, I'm trying to be the youngest player, you know what I'm saying, out there, Okay? I have old heads out there, and then youngest player be right around my age, you know what I'm saying?

[James Deebo Harrison]

Cool.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what I'm expecting. That's what I'm expecting. That's what I'm hoping. I'm telling my wife. I'm like, yeah, babe, you know what I'm saying? Signed up for the league, you know what I'm saying? I don't want you to come to the first game. I gotta go, you know what I'm saying? I gotta go peep the scene. Let me go see what's going on. I don't need you coming out there yet, you know what I'm saying? Coming out there yet, you know, we don't have all our players. It's just us five, you know, I just want to go out there and see what's up, okay? My boys are hyped. They come over to the house early. Deebo, we're prepping. Everybody's texting. Let's hydrate. Let's make sure we drink water, you know what I'm saying? Like, we ain't been playing too often, you know what I'm saying? Nobody. We not really too much like running in basketball shape, but we hoop or so we think.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

All right, so we pull up Debo. We try to get there. Cause the game starts at 7:30. So it's a game going on before us of the team that we gonna play next Sunday, right? So we like, all right, let's get there like 15 minutes early so we can at least see the competition. All right, Boom. We walk in, the two teams are playing. All right? They're looking like a little older, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, okay. Boom. It's looking smooth. Like, okay, we can play with them. They still look like they could ball. They running picks and running up and down. They defense, they look like they know what they're doing. And I see the team that we're about to play against on the sideline, they just sitting there, you know what I'm saying? They're already there. They're ready. They stretching. And I see one dude, he about six, six, you know what I'm saying? Dreads, you know what I'm saying? Got his bag. I see another dude, he about six three. He look like he hooped. The other dude, he's not even tall. He's like 5 10. But he's just standing there, you know what I'm saying, with his ball, you know what I'm saying? Stretching. So I'm like this, okay, we may be in trouble. We may be in trouble. But my boy Pitt is our big body. So I'm like, we got a tall. We got a six, four, dude. We got my man Pitt for the big body, you know what I'm saying? Six three, buddy. Like, I ain't tall, but like, I hoop. I could like, all right. I see myself matching him. I'm looking at the rest of my team. Okay, all right.

[James Deebo Harrison]

You up there. You up there sizing everybody.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm sizing them up so bad, Debo. And guess what? They doing the same thing to me. I can see them. They looking at us. And we walk in the joint. Victor waves regular jerseys. They got reversible jerseys. FXA sports the league. I'm like this, man. Nah, dawg. When we come, we rocking NBA jerseys. Everybody on our team, I'm rocking. I'm rocking the Darius Garland jersey with the shorts. We got official game jerseys and NBA shorts. My boy, my brother Josh Manuel Ginobili, official Spurs jersey shorts. My mother, man. We got Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns, all black shorts. So we Looking sweet, Debo. We play the game.

[James Deebo Harrison]

What happened, Joe?

[Joe Hayden]

First half score, 61 to 24.

[James Deebo Harrison]

We're damned it.

[Joe Hayden]

Down by 40.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Oh, my God, bruh, y' all could come back.

[Joe Hayden]

They were. They were the Knicks. They were the Knicks. The Knicks flew in and. And that's who we played in the 35 and up league. That's what happened, Debo.

[James Deebo Harrison]

They went, why don't y' all come back?

[Joe Hayden]

We got mercy ruled, Deebo. In the third quarter, when the horn went off at halftime, we was ready to shake hands. I thought the game was over. I was hoping, and me and my team was hoping the game was over. We was like, God, and it was like this. Halftime. We was like, oh, my God, it's another half. Oh, my God.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Halftime. They was playing four quarters.

[Joe Hayden]

You thought they was playing four quarters, Deebo. We went back out. Third quarter, we got down by 45, man. It was 76 to 40, 76 to 31. And the referees blew the whistle with three minutes left in the third quarter because it's 45 mercy and I'm 45 mercy rules. 45 mercy.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Good game to some old. Like, like, like, like. Like the football. You see the 37U and shit, Debo. I thought y' all was going to school. Cat should never have no right going to no.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, my God. I was humble. I got belt to ass so bad yesterday at a middle school gym at the 35 league. But this is the thing. This is the thing. I. I had. I had nine. Oh, my God, I had nine points. But when I went to the rack one time, Debo, I went to the bucket, got explosive, blew by. I felt my groin.

[Erin Andrews]

Ah.

[Joe Hayden]

So now I know.

[Erin Andrews]

I'm.

[Joe Hayden]

Now I'm. Now we only got five players, so I'm. I'm weak second quarter. I'm low key.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I'm gimpy. I'm gimpy.

[Joe Hayden]

So they kind of like, now I'm gimpy. My big man Pitt, two minutes in the first quarter, he has a calf sleeve on. So my man Pitt's like this. Not. Not already his calves start tightening up a little bit. So we only got five players, though.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Y' all brought y' all old ass out there thinking the hottest thing. Smoking them boys playing since 20 you, 25U, 30U. Y' all coming out there thinking y' all go jump into 35U. Them boys got 15 years experience on y'.

[Tab Ramos]

All.

[Joe Hayden]

They've been playing together since TenU. They've been playing against 10U. They was running up and down, had plays they was setting picks, my man. One buddy. But I promise you, he hit 10, three pointers. He was 10 for 12. And he was like, oh, yeah, that's good. I'm like this. Oh, my God. Great shot. We started giving them, like, oh, my. Like they was being positive. You know what I'm saying? It was crazy. I blocked. Pitied you, man.

[James Deebo Harrison]

That's pity.

[Joe Hayden]

Look, I beat a shot, too.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Oh, good shot, big buddy.

[Joe Hayden]

One time, Deebo. He down there.

[James Deebo Harrison]

He down there.

[Joe Hayden]

He tried to shoot. I say, bump. Give me that shit. And he rebound. After I blocked it, he rebounded my block and then put it back up and score. I was like, damn. Soon he blocked.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Soon he tried.

[Joe Hayden]

Give me that shit. He like this, man.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Ugh.

[Joe Hayden]

Finish. I'm like this. Oh, so. But the good thing is we played the best team in the league. Because the other two don't matter, Joe.

[James Deebo Harrison]

You got mercy.

[Joe Hayden]

The other two teams, who cares?

[James Deebo Harrison]

You're not going to win.

[Joe Hayden]

Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. That's the benchmark. The team. We started off like this. I still have three more players that are coming to the team that are really, really good, that are really, really good.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Ass growing down your homeboy's calf.

[Joe Hayden]

My home. That's it. If we could. If we could have had subs as soon as we got and we started exalting ourselves too much, then we could have got one. If we didn't have no one to get us, we gotta stay out there the whole game. So my man was over exalted.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Is this a basketball thing where cats say delusional shit like we dominated somebody? We were better team than them? Is that basketball shit that you can be delusional like that, Joe?

[Joe Hayden]

Our shots weren't going in. Our shots were.

[James Deebo Harrison]

The fuck do you mean you can't shoot? You ain't a good shooter? I can't shoot.

[Joe Hayden]

My elbow percentage was just down.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I was getting

[Joe Hayden]

everybody, Debo. I was getting to my spot. That's the thing. Me and all of my dogs, we was getting to our spot. We just wasn't hitting it the way it needed to go. It was a little short sometimes. Sometimes a little long, but, like, long. We were getting to where we needed to get. We were getting to where we needed to get. That's the thing. He wasn't. They weren't stopping us from getting to where we needed to go. That's what I'm saying, Joe.

[James Deebo Harrison]

They can't stop you. It's called like, Joe.

[Joe Hayden]

I was getting to my. And then I got to the bucket. Cause Once I lost my explosiveness, that's when I could only result to my trey ball.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Joe, you had nine points. What did you have going?

[Joe Hayden]

I had. I had. I was 2. You wanna know my stat line? I was 2 for 10 for trey balls. I was 2 and I was 2 for 10 for treyi balls. 11 for 6 from the field, and then I was wired, and that was one for two from the line.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I feel embarrassed for you.

[Joe Hayden]

Had a bad shooting day. I was good by spots.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I don't even know who you is.

[Joe Hayden]

I felt like. I felt like Stephan Castle. I feel like Stephan Castle. Only reason I feel like Stephen Castle is because I know that.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Hey, man, who's the other dudes on your team, man? Put them out there, too. Cause y' all was trash.

[Joe Hayden]

Listen, Josh. Whoever doesn't hold. Listen, Josh Hart does not hold Stefon Castle to four points. You know what I'm saying? Eight points every game. It's just. He's had an off shooting night.

[James Deebo Harrison]

You had a bad game.

[Joe Hayden]

I had an off shooting night. That's what I'm trying to tell you. I was getting to my.

[James Deebo Harrison]

You sure it wasn't them hands in your face on them shots?

[Joe Hayden]

No, no, no, no, no. They was. They was great contest. They had really good contests. But it's. I was. I was elevated. I was there, but I just. You know what I'm saying? A little. A little off. A lot of in and out.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Who y' all, coach Joe?

[Joe Hayden]

Huh?

[James Deebo Harrison]

Who y' all coach, bro? All of y'?

[Erin Andrews]

All?

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, bro. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a team unit. I'm the. I'm the captain. I'm the captain.

[James Deebo Harrison]

That's what happened. The coaching and the playing, the false belief in the players that you have from the coach and the players in themselves, everything.

[Joe Hayden]

Listen, that's the thing. Only reason why I'm telling you this, Deebo, I could have not told you this at all. The only reason why I'm really wanting to let you know this is because I know that my shooter percentage and my team, we're going to have. We have more players. We only had only five of us was able to show up to the first game. We got eight. And our other three players are good. So when we get our whole team

[James Deebo Harrison]

together, everybody, they make up for 45 points.

[Joe Hayden]

No, no, no. I'm gonna get. I'm supposed to be average at 25. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna get. I need my 15 more my man Jazz. My man Jazz, he had 12. You know what I'm saying? Me and Jazz, 12. My brother Josh, 5. Pitt, 5. My man Blue, he didn't have no buckets. So that's our points. And next thing you know, Jazz Gonna get his 25. I'm gonna get my 25.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Our new dude, when that's gonna happen? Uncontested.

[Joe Hayden]

They putting hands in space next Sunday.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Next Sunday, they shortest dude on they team was what, six' two, six' three?

[Joe Hayden]

Who? The shortest dude on the team that we just played or the last team that we playing next week?

[James Deebo Harrison]

The team you just played?

[Joe Hayden]

The team that we just played. The shortest dude. Oh, no. The shortest dude was. The shortest dude was the five. He was five. Like, five, eight.

[James Deebo Harrison]

And y' all still got beat by 45. That's a damn shame.

[Joe Hayden]

He was the one that hit 10 threes. His clip was uneven.

[James Deebo Harrison]

You couldn't even block. You couldn't even deem up.

[Joe Hayden]

I was trying to guard the six three, man. I'm guarding the six three, man.

[James Deebo Harrison]

30 points. Joe, do your job.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm guarding the six. I'm guarding. I'm guarding the six three,' buddy. They got six, six, three. I'm guarding six three, six three. Only had about probably 10.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I'm coming out to coach.

[Joe Hayden]

You know what? I'm. You know. Yeah. I'm gonna get some. I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get some highlights. I'm gonna get some highlights.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I'm wearing a suit, too.

[Joe Hayden]

Edit it real nice. I'm old school.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I'm wearing a suit on the sideline.

[Joe Hayden]

D ball. Yeah. I ain't gonna lie. Cause I. I look, I came home and my wife was expecting a completely different story. I said, baby, I'm so happy you didn't come. She's like, why are you limping?

[James Deebo Harrison]

I said, yeah, look at hurt.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm hurt already.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I'm hurt. All retchy. Retchy.

[Ryan Seacrest]

God.

[James Deebo Harrison]

You got to be more careful.

[Joe Hayden]

I got to doing. Don't. Don't try. I gotta do. I gotta get my. We. Me and the team, we gotta get our cardio up. That's for sure. Yeah. That's why I know this. It's a long way to travel. Would you play in the league, man?

[James Deebo Harrison]

No, I ain't playing, dude.

[Joe Hayden]

Would you coach?

[James Deebo Harrison]

I'd coach the hell out of it.

[Joe Hayden]

I think you might just.

[James Deebo Harrison]

And you know what? I'm gonna do that shit to us. I'm not gonna be the person or the coach that's gonna sit there and be like, hey, you know, we didn't do what we needed to do as a unit. No. Hell no.

[Joe Hayden]

You gonna call my motherfuckers.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Did not do what was I coached them to do. I'm coaching it. They just ain't getting it done. I'm not gonna sit here and take blame for these players that ain't out there executing.

[Joe Hayden]

How you gonna stop them? What would you have done when we was out there getting our ass beat? What would you do to stop?

[James Deebo Harrison]

I left. Made like I wasn't even part of that shit.

[Joe Hayden]

See, hell, that's what I thought.

[James Deebo Harrison]

You ain't gonna. You ain't no coach for me.

[Joe Hayden]

You ain't gonna be my coach, bro.

[James Deebo Harrison]

Hell no, man. I just threw my hands up on

[Joe Hayden]

the side like, oh, my gosh, Debo.

[James Deebo Harrison]

I'd have been like, what y' all doing? I'd have been loud and bolsters with it, too.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm telling you this right now, bro. I really can't tell you and explain to you how I really, really thought it was going to be the complete opposite situation I was walking into. I was expecting just older dudes out there, and I'm like, really older dudes

[James Deebo Harrison]

that ain't been playing. You thought they were sitting on the side?

[Joe Hayden]

No, I thought they was chilling, bro. Them dudes was not chilling at all.

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