Nightcap Hour 1: Udonis Haslem CLAPS BACK at Draymond Green + Sterling Sharpe JOINS and CONFIRMS CHILDHOOD STORIES

Summary

Nightcap Hour 1: Udonis Haslem CLAPS BACK at Draymond Green + Sterling Sharpe JOINS and CONFIRMS CHILDHOOD STORIES

Date: July 13, 2026
Podcast: Nightcap (Shay Shay Media & Playmaker)
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, Joe Johnson ("Iso Joe")

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Episode Overview

This lively episode of Nightcap features the trademark blend of current sports debate, brotherly banter, and deep-dive nostalgia. The first half is dominated by a detailed discussion of the escalating war of words between NBA players Draymond Green and Udonis Haslem over locker room leadership, player altercations, and “Heat Culture.” The second half welcomes Hall of Famer Sterling Sharpe (Shannon’s brother) for a hilarious, unvarnished trip down memory lane as the Sharpe brothers swap stories about growing up in rural Georgia—complete with tales of hard labor, mischievous pranks, and family toughness.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ocho’s Soccer Prowess and Big 3 Hype

(07:36–14:50)

• Ochocinco’s Recent Soccer Highlight: Ocho relishes his goal in a recent celebrity soccer game, describing technical footwork while joking that the goalie was "from Home Depot or Costco."
  • "They need to get rid of that damn goalie. Any bad joke nowhere here, man. That goal ain't worth two dead flies." - Ocho (08:17)
• Shannon’s Ribbing: Joe, Ocho and Shannon poke fun at amateur “Home Depot” defenders.
  • "They got that man at the hardware aisle. 'We need you for two hours.' He clocked out, got six goals put on his head, and went right back to work." – Shannon (09:47)
• Transition to Big 3: Ocho hypes his basketball practice for the Big 3 celebrity game, promising a highlight show and reminding Shannon he wants some court-side support.
  • "I'm getting to the buckets. I don't want you coming back here copping no pleas after." – Ocho (13:22)
• Classic Trash Talk: Lighthearted back-and-forth on who’s got the real basketball moves.

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2. Draymond Green vs. Udonis Haslem—NBA Teammate Dynamics

(19:28–39:14)

• Draymond’s Challenge: Full reading of Draymond’s comments questioning whether Haslem will “keep the same energy” about Bam Adebayo punching Tyler Herro as he did when Draymond punched Jordan Poole.
  • "[UD] was really outspoken about it and it really bothered me...if Bam punches Tyler Hero, is UD gonna have that same energy?" – Draymond (19:45–22:09)
• Haslem’s Blistering Reply: Shannon reads Haslem’s reply, calling Draymond “delusional”:
  • "You was on some sucker ish for years when you swung on Jordan Poole and you want some sucker ish now...if you think your big 32 year old ass swinging on a 23 year old is the same thing, you’re even more delusional than I thought." – Haslem, as quoted by Shannon (22:11)
• Nightcap Crew Weighs In: The panel breaks down the differences in both incidents:
  • Shannon: Explains why Jordan Poole made a mistake by letting Draymond “close the distance” (23:54)
  • Ocho: Notes difference between football and basketball team altercations and how fights break out more often in football due to sheer roster size and intensity (25:26)
  • Consensus: Grown men, especially athletes, need to maintain spatial and self-awareness in heated moments—most fights result from letting emotions override judgment.
  • "You gotta know a person’s disposition. You gotta know who you can joke with, who you can play with. Everybody don’t play like you play." – Shannon (30:16)
• Locker Room Codes: Discussion broadens to the importance of respecting boundaries and understanding personal “trigger words.”
  • "We have one trigger word down here in Miami...if you call anybody this, it's time to go. I don't care where you at." – Joe Odom (27:01)

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3. Sterling Sharpe Joins—Family Lore & Southern Upbringing

(43:51–98:39)

• Sterling Enters: Sterling Sharpe (“Spank”) calls in to a hero’s welcome. Immediate chemistry as Shannon and Sterling riff about retirement, golf, and sibling stories.
• What’s True? Fact-Checking Family Myths: Sterling confirms Shannon’s legendary childhood stories are true, from getting hooked while fishing to taking blame for Shannon’s mischief:
  • "He kind of glossed over the story where you set the field on fire and then went back and told Papa that somebody did it...I got the punishment for that." – Sterling (46:03)
  • "If you want to know where the Lindbergh baby is, don't tell him...He gonna tell it for free." – Sterling on Shannon’s “dry snitching” (47:02)
• Hard Work, Hard Lessons: Both discuss their grandfather Barney Porter’s strict rules—how he used discipline and made unique demands (cutting grass in a precise direction, working in tobacco fields at age 8, catching chickens for pocket money).
  • "You didn't go in there going, 'Oh man, I hope Uncle Jake...don’t come tonight.' Nah bro, we need to get this money." – Sterling (72:44)
  • "But we call chickens after you been in the field since 7am." – Shannon (73:05)
• Childhood Scrapes & Sibling Rivalry: Tales of cut fingers, throwing rocks at each other for entertainment, BB gun marksmanship, and leveraging gossip as a form of power.
  • "He used to have the clothesline with all the birds he killed as trophies." – Sterling (97:19)
  • "You cut me, I got to cut you back!" – Shannon (86:43)
• Growing Up Poor—But Resourceful: The Sharpe brothers describe rural life with pride—outdoor plumbing, working for what you eat, and making fun out of very little.
  • "You throw the fish back. You ain't cleaning 200 fish. Entertainment was anything." – Shannon (99:54)
  • "You got to be in the country where the next house is miles away to just grab a shotgun at 10 years old." – Joe Odom (94:09)
• Reflections on Discipline and Success: Sterling gives heartfelt credit to their upbringing for his and Shannon’s work ethic and sense of responsibility.
  • "Without that upbringing, I don’t think I’m here. That discipline—God had to be pleased with the work we did." – Sterling (71:34)
  • "You said something earlier—you said, you proud of me because I wasn't supposed to be here." – Shannon (75:23)

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4. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "If you let that man close the distance, you gonna get your ass whooped...you get off the first one." – Shannon on altercations, (24:07)
• "You got to know who you can joke with...especially in a locker room with 53 players." – Joe Odom (31:05)
• "There is no right or wrong. When it got to Barney Porter’s desk, all parties involved were wrong." – Sterling (86:58)
• "You ain't supposed to be as successful as he is right now...For that time, he got enough of what that time was." – Sterling on Shannon (67:11)
• "You all had to be sleepy [after those days]. I was not." – Sterling (74:05)
• "A man should always carry two things: a wallet and a straight razor or a gun." – Sterling (70:05)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Ocho’s Soccer Highlight & Big 3 Basketball Trash Talk: 07:36–14:50
• Draymond Green vs. Udonis Haslem Beef: 19:28–39:14
• Haslem’s Response & Practice Fights Discussion: 22:11–36:32
• Locker Room “Trigger Words” & Boundaries: 27:01–31:05
• Sterling Sharpe Joins, Family Stories Begin: 43:51
• Fact-Checking Shannon’s Stories: 46:03–54:57
• Discipline, Childhood Punishments, Hardened Upbringing: 60:06–76:00
• Rural Childhood Anecdotes (Guns, Chickens, Odd Jobs): 94:09–100:13
• Brothers Reflect on Their Success, Give Thanks for Upbringing: 71:34–75:23

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Tone & Style

• Language: Unfiltered, playful, southern-inflected, with frequent “Unc” wisdom, OG ribbing, and lots of laughter.
• Atmosphere: Warm, hilarious, and occasionally poignant; the guests and hosts blend sports hot takes with genuine family storytelling.
• Standout: The authenticity of the Sharpe brothers’ love and the way their stories echo the lived reality of so many athletes—hardship, competitiveness, loyalty, hard-won pride.

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Takeaways

• The episode deftly balances sports debate (with the Draymond–Haslem feud as centerpiece) and unique, personal storytelling—making it engaging whether you’re here for the locker room analysis or the Southern family saga.
• Nightcap continues to shine in blending real-time sports commentary with deeper, intergenerational narratives, showing that behind every highlight is a history, often shared in laughter and struggle.
• For the culture, for the fans.

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[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What we got?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know if we're going to be able to control him tonight because as a matter of fact, let's just take a look at the video.

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his second

[Joe Johnson]

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[Joe Odom]

Celine back in it.

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Five, four. Trailing by one, Chad Ocho.

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Cinco with the finish.

[Joe Johnson]

What a quick touch from right foot to left foot.

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Left foot, finish. This man has been spending a lot

[Joe Johnson]

of time on the soccer football field

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recently, and you can see it's paying off.

[Joe Johnson]

He doesn't even celebrate.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't even know what's going on.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey. They need to get rid of that damn goalie. Any bad joke nowhere here, man. That goal ain't worth two dead flies. Come on, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He dropped out right there. The man go to the far post. He dropped out there near post, man. Come on, man, sprawl out.

[Joe Odom]

But hold on, hold on. And you notice there's only one place the ball could go. Like the goal. He's covering that. He's covered in their post. So I know, you know, when I go from right foot to left foot, the only place I can put it is far post. And it hit the post and went right in. I mean, hey, listen, I didn't celebrate because it's what I do. I'm used to scoring goals. That's why I just turned around and just, you know, hey, karma, karma.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I mean, I like. I like the little right to left, though. I ain't gonna lie, Joe.

[Joe Odom]

You know, I kick.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm.

[Joe Odom]

I'm right footed, Joe.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, okay, okay, yeah, I'm right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You slew footed. You said feet turn out like a dog joke.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Odom]

Hey, that's why I'm able to stop on the dime like that.

[Lele Pons]

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[Joe Odom]

My feet go like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Joe, I'm just showing you. My first goal was with my right foot. I came back and gave him on my left foot just a little. Just to let him know I'm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You should have got the hat trick, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I mean. I mean, what they. Hey, hey, what he find the goalie? They found him at Costco. Home Depot someday.

[Joe Odom]

Hey, Joe, it wouldn't have matter. He was in goalie. It wouldn't matter who was in Gold Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, so they could have Virginia and goalie. You'd have got him, huh?

[Joe Odom]

Hey, I'm getting one right by him, huh? I'm getting one right.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, I know a Home Depot goalie when I see one Here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They drove.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, we need one. You know, they jump right in the truck, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you got. They got that man at the heart at the hardware aisle. Hey, we need you for about two hours. He clocked out. Yeah. Went out there. Hey. Got about six goals put on his head, and went right back to work.

[Joe Odom]

It's what I do. At any level. At any level.

[Scotty B]

Okay.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

All right. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you look good. You look good. Oh, I give you that. You. Hey, you finally. Finally what? You did something that we could. That we could show and we could be proud of.

[Joe Odom]

But see, you got. You got to understand, like, I'm. I keep telling people, they think I be Uncle Joe. Like, I'm a better soccer player than I was an NFL receiver because I put the time in. The only problem is I don't have a platform to show how good I've gotten at soccer until moments like this come speed. And YouTube had a content creator, you know, soccer game. So now all the work I've been putting in, now I get to show.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, that's what's up, bro. When you play football, you playing against other professionals, right? These are not professionals. So if you go to real soccer field, huh?

[Joe Odom]

What you want me to do?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, that's what I'm saying, though.

[Joe Odom]

You said I can't play against professionals.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm saying even in your prime. Oh, they put you on a real field against the real guys because you said when they gave you.

[Joe Odom]

Yeah, see, I wouldn't look the same. You got to think. You got to think how long I've been retired, how many years it's been.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Probably about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Probably about. Probably about 13, 14, for sure.

[Joe Odom]

So you have to understand, since I retired, I literally been trying to get better at playing soccer. So I've been.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, you're gonna get better.

[Joe Odom]

Hey, and I. Hey, Joe and I still got a long way to go.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Would you.

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Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey. What you be doing?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You doing your little ladder drills and all that? You keeping yourself right?

[Joe Odom]

More. I train. I train with a friends of mine. His name is Andy Heron. They trained down in. Right by my house, about two blocks away. I'm talking about Flamingo Park. Yeah, it is called Flamingo Park. I do it every Morning. Every morning. Trying to. Trying to get comfortable and make the ball in my feet become one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You might need to go get Ronaldinho trainer, because ain't nobody been able to handle the ball like Ronaldinho.

[Joe Odom]

Listen, in order for me to look like Ronaldinho, I would have to. I would have to be reborn in Brazil. It started like three in the favelas as a little kid and playing. Playing barefoot. I never look like that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain't nobody. Ain't nobody ever looked like that but him.

[Joe Odom]

Nah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he was doing that on the game, you know, I see. You know, you. They show videos of him just bull driving around and him turning flips. He got the ball tucked in his thing and he kicking it. He's doing what that. In that video? He's doing that in an actual soccer game?

[Joe Odom]

Yeah. He want.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He'll take the ball, kick it, then kick it over the guy's head and then punch it. I was like, yeah, y' all let this man do y' all like that.

[Joe Odom]

There's very few people that can pull those tricks off in the middle of the game because you don't. You don't want to mess up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Joe Odom]

You don't want to mess up.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Kicking him with his heel in the net. Hey, hey.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What's that, like, a celebrity game you played in?

[Joe Odom]

Yeah, Speed. Speed had a content creator game on YouTube.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, man, that's all right, bro. I like to. I like to see y' all coming together, bro, and you. You know, you getting some highlights, and I like to see you doing your one, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what I mean?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe look good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like I said, Joe, he finally made us look good. Because basketball, we used to let people question.

[Joe Odom]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait till you see the Big 3 celebrity tournament this time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, hey, hey.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.

[Joe Odom]

I need to make sure you court side, because, mind you, I ain't stopped playing. I've been. I've been practicing basketball, too. So I'm gonna put on a mean demonstration.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, okay, okay.

[Joe Odom]

Listen, listen, hey, listen. I don't care about no side best this year, okay?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay?

[Joe Odom]

I'm getting. I'm getting to the. I'm getting to the buckets.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay? That what I was just gonna say. Cause, see, me and Unc don't want you coming back on her copping. No, please. Talking about. Oh, man, they had cyber. I don't want to hear that. I don't want to hear that. I want you to come on here and you know, I mean, we. We be able to, you know, gloat a little bit, you know what I mean?

[Joe Odom]

I need you to do me a favor. I need to make sure you court side, right? And I'm gonna do your move. And I do the move and I. And I make the shot. I'm look at you and I'm.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I'm sorry, but this the one and only.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you meet another.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He's a phone.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't beat me.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ojo. So you can do the in and out?

[Joe Odom]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

In between, behind the back, you gonna do dribble, dribble.

[Joe Odom]

To the right. To the right. Twice. I mean twice to get him going. Come back with the left, then step back and hit him. Midi.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, okay, okay, okay.

[Joe Odom]

I know it by heart, Joe. I know the midi by heart.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

All right, I wanna see this.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, I'm be locked in. When is it? When is. I'll be locked in because I got to come. I got to come check you out.

[Joe Odom]

I don't know when is the big three.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, that's the champion. That's right before the championship game. They do the celebrity joint.

[Joe Odom]

Yeah. So okay then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so how many months we got before that?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

They probably got at least another month of basketball left.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, a little.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Probably a little over that.

[Joe Odom]

Yeah, yeah. Joe, hey, you're gonna be like, God damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Odom]

Okay, well, I see you represent Nightcap. Okay.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Draymond Green wants to know if Udonis Haslam will keep the same energy for Bam punching Tyler hero that he did when Draymond punched Jordan Poole. In order to provide a full context of what this this beef is brewing, here's Draymond full quote about UD let's take a listen.

[Draymond Green]

I remember one person when the Jordan Poole incident happened with me was who was really, really, really outspoken about this about it. Who like everyone else didn't have a ton of context because you weren't there but was really outspoken about it. And it really bothered me was you Donna's Haslam. And the reason it really bothered me is because man, everybody can have an opinion and your opinion is what your opinion is. But I saw you Don as has him get into it with guys on teams that was younger than him before a la Jimmy Butler. I had seen that before. And then he came out and he like that's ridiculous. You get into it with your young guy. I would never. I can't believe you did that. It really bothered me because I was like, damn, man. So this dude ain't never been and this dude ain't never been in practice where somebody get into a fight. He never got into a fight in practice. Maybe not. He been in Miami the whole time. Maybe they don't have fights in their practice. You know, the heat.

[Joe Johnson]

Heat.

[Draymond Green]

What is it? Heat culture or heat way? Or maybe they don't have fights like it really threw me for a loop because you know, I don't really care what most people say, but when I have respect for certain guys, it does matter when you have respect for God. And so when I saw that I was just like damn man, this dude doing what everybody else doing, acting like he and so when I first saw this I was like damn, this is two young guys you don't aslam raised. And yeah, they not on the same team no more. But if you raise this young guy in the light of what you were saying about me and now he punches this young other young guy that y' all kind of co raised are you going to have that same energy? And the reality is I don't really want him to have the same energy because I love Bam. That's my brother. Love Bam. It's my dog, won a gold medal, gold medal together. So I actually wouldn't want someone to even have that same energy towards Bam. However, I, I just, I just was wondering like man, I what you. I wonder what you done as hosam going to say

[Joe Odom]

hey, he said something back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well here's the thing. I'm not going to read the whole whole thing but you d tweeted at money green I see things just don't change. You was on some sucker ish for years when you swung on Jordan Poole and you want some sucker ish. Now I usually don't engage but since you went so far to the left to get my attention, here it is. If you think your big 32 year old is three or four rings at the time have it ass swinging on a 23 year old Jordan pool at the same time same then you're even more delusional than I thought. As you can see right there, he said Look, Bam is 28, Tyler Hero is 26. And you know, he goes on, he says call it heat culture or whatever you want before I let one player disrespect fro spoke in front of the squad, cut his legs out disrupt 15 other guys trying with trying to get accomplished, I'll kick his ass. I owe that to Zoe, to Tim Glenn and the rest of the og. I don't really vibe vibe you and I think you know that unless it's me in private talk hoops, I won't mention you at all. But you brought basically said you brought it to me. So that's what it is what it is. Me personally, I don't think Look, I, I see it from both sides of the equation Joe, but I look at it like this and the one mistake that Jordan Poole left, Ocho, you know, if you got tension, okay, Somebody on one end of the field and y' all talking, man. F you, Ocho. Ninja F you. You ain't gonna do nothing. All that wolfing, all that talking. As long as you over there, I'm over here, we good. What I'm not gonna let you do, Ocho and Joe is close the distance, and you still got that hostility.

[Boost Mobile Announcer]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that was Jordan Poole's mistake.

[Joe Odom]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

First of all, somebody got that hostility, you don't let them walk up on you. You get off the first one. Now, if he's still standing out, that you might have to take off running. But if you get off a clean shot.

[Joe Odom]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he's still standing, you gonna get your ass whooped. Anyway.

[Joe Odom]

Hey, well, two things you got to have, right? I'm not sure where Jordan Poole grew up. I don't know anything about his background.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't either.

[Draymond Green]

Joke.

[Joe Odom]

You always have to understand, for one, spatial awareness. Yes, spatial awareness. You know, and understanding and having self awareness, especially when you. When you get into it with somebody. And I think maybe Jordan Poole thought, well, we're in a structured environment. You know, we're at practice. I don't expect anything like that to happen here. But that's what most of the time, we'll know. In general, it. It happens. So, I mean, it happened.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What they do. What they do that at, Joe, what they do that at? You argue. You don't see pickups. You know, all of a sudden, if two people. And obviously, I'm saying a football field, but in a basketball court, the basketball gym is only a practice gym is only so big so you could hear everything he's saying. And that man getting closer and closer. And y' all still. The elevation is in both of you guys voice, right?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you let that man close the distance to be able to get that shot off on you.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, because. Because if you see the video, Jordan Poole kind of pushed him first, and then that's when he came with the. You know.

[Joe Johnson]

But.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, you know, I don't really know, bro. I think in certain situations, certain guys. He wasn't thinking that Draymond was going.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nope, you ain't thinking.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I mean, this is my damn teammate. Yeah, we gonna have disagreements, we're gonna be pissed at each other. But, see, basketball and football difference. Do you have fights in the locker rooms?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell, yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

But I bet you in football, hell, it's 50, 52, 53 on the damn team. It's way more fights in football than it is in basketball, especially doing teammates. Y' all play a gladiator sport, you know what I mean? It's just a difference.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you know why, Joe? Because as you said, there's so much testosterone and ain't nobody willing to let nobody punk them, right? So somebody might be willing to take an ass cut just to prove a point. You not been to punk me. Especially when you start that. When that boy start element. You know, though, Joe. Yeah, we've all done been around. We don't been in the fight. I ain't been in no 15. I ain't no professional fighter.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I've been in enough fights, and I've seen enough situations. I'm like, okay, let me try to diffuse this, because I already see where this thing is headed.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain't nobody backing down, and ain't nobody going back down unless somebody tried to let cooler head prevail.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, man, come on, man. Bro, we don't need this. Nah. That. Hey, I'm gonna see if he really owned what he talking about.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You really gotta have somebody to step in and de escalate the situation, because even though we teammates, you know, man, when them emotions get high, boy, you ain't studying all that. You ready to go back out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn that team. I don't know you. I ain't never seen you before a day of my damn life. Hey, you acting reckless and. Yeah, and there are certain key words, all that. Hey, suck my. You know what? You'll be your. Whoa, whoa.

[Joe Odom]

We have one trigger word down here in Miami. Actually, two trigger words down here in Miami. If you call anybody this, it's time to go. I don't care where you at your school graduation. You call somebody a. Yeah, man, Listen. Hey, tell your grandma take a church hat off.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad. I know your trigger word.

[Draymond Green]

Now.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I got you. Don't.

[Joe Odom]

Don't play with yourself like that.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I get what Bam said. Draymond, you 32, 33 years old. That's a 23 year old. He ain't expecting that. He's not expecting this og. But you have to get. Have to. You have to, like, okay, we're in the art. The mere fact that we're in an argument lets me know that. Hold on. This ain't normal.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Have you seen. Have you ever seen Draymond get in an argument with Clay? Have you ever seen him get an argument? Loon. Have you ever Seen me get no argument with Stephen. So you gotta. Hey, you gotta, like. Okay, I gotta maneuver this man. Hold on. Wait a minute. And he getting closer, but in certain. Like you said, Joe, he pushed him.

[Joe Johnson]

Man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That man don't walked up on you.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He done closed the distance. Yeah. No, yeah, that's. I'm sorry. That's.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

It's super unfortunate, but I disagree with Draymond because it's a whole total different situation.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. That man wasn't talking about you.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, what the stories is alleged is that he was talking about how he was cooking him. Yeah. In practice.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tyler Hero allegedly took screenshot, was saying stuff, and somebody took a screenshot of it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's a whole. That's a whole different. I don't believe Bam would have just got into an argument. Nothing. All of a sudden, they stay teammates and they just get. And all of a sudden, they get into an argument about something.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Ah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't see that happening. I don't know. People get mad and people say things, you know, sometimes. Hey. And a lot of times when people get upset. They've been dying to tell you that anyway.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But they just did. They just did. An opportunity never presented itself, Joe, for them to tell you how they really felt about you. This was the opportunity to really tell you how they really feel. And then the other reports came out that says, you know, Jimmy Butler allegedly distanced himself for band because they felt Bam was untouchable. The Heat Organization. And I read there are other people in the Heat Organization. I don't know. I mean, I'm just rereading it. I'm like, oh, whatever it is, it is what it is. But I'm just saying, I. I don't. I. I don't agree with Dre on this one. I understand what he's. His point he's trying to make.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But it's too. It's. It's. The question is, if Tyler Hero doesn't say what he says about Bam, does Bam have the reaction that he has? I don't believe he does.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He could.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know Bam.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Nah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All I know is Bam. What I see on television. I don't know the man.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Nah, it's. Certain stuff you can keep in house, even if it's rumors about you, and maybe you even know them to be true. But when somebody posts something about you, bro. Yes. Different. Hey, when we see each other here, at least we gotta rap about it. You feel me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, for sure.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know if Bam just felt away and just stole off on him, but damn, bro, that's how you've been feeling the whole time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, that seems to be the consensus that he walked up and he was really.

[Joe Johnson]

Pow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Scotty B]

You ain't even.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what's wrong. You need to get wrong guy. You just say, what's the pow? But like I said, I don't know, Bam. So I. And that's the thing also, Joe and Ocho, you know this. You got to know a person's disposition. You got to know who you can joke with.

[Joe Odom]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got to know who you can play with. You got to know who you could like certain things. Like, hey, certain people, you can't make no jokes, right? About the family, about the kids, about anything. You make a joke about guys, a play, and dude, be ready to fight. Hell, my grandma could have caught that one. Yeah, let that go. Oh, I let it go just like you let that ball go. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but you got. You gotta know. Cause everybody don't play like you play.

[Joe Odom]

No, you got to be aware. It's all about self awareness, knowing who you can joke with. Especially in a locker room with 53 players, you know who to play with. You know who not to play with. I had a problem. You know how I play around, remember? Well, you. You don't think you was there yet when Zeus. Orlando Brown.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Orlando Brown, Man, Joe, I had. I had left. I had retired when he came. When he came back to Baltimore.

[Joe Odom]

Yeah, boy, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I had already retired. Ojo.

[Joe Odom]

It's a story, Joe. We had that warming up before the game start. You know how the players warm up. I'm like, golly, man, dude, big as hell. Mind you, me being my funny self. I wouldn't have jumped on his back. You know how people jump on your back? Yeah, on his back.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You didn't know him.

[Joe Odom]

No, I ain't know him. I ain't know him. But I thought, you know, I thought, you know, when he saw it was me, he was gonna be cool. Yeah, man, Uncle Joe, man, that tried to whip my ass on the field, boy. I had to run to the locker room just to finish warming up. I had to go get Big Willie. I had to have that Big Willie come out and talk to him. You know, Orlando Brown Jr. He talk about that story all the time. Every time I seen him, man. Rest pop soul, man. Hey, everybody don't play the same, though. I learned the hallway. Cause he was. Hey, hey, Joe. He was dead serious.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, he wasn't a guy that. That he don't play around like they play like that.

[Joe Odom]

Hey, I'm like, I'm just playing, man. He said, I don't give a. Who the you think I am. You'd be jumping on my back.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Odom]

And he squared up with me, and, man, I mean, I took off to the locker room, man.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey, hey. I bet. I bet you didn't jump on nobody else damn back, did you?

[Joe Odom]

Well, yeah. Ray Ray Lewis.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Odom]

You saw what I did.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Come on. Come on. Hey, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

But you right. But you right, though. You don't know, bro. And you take a guy's demeanor for granted. He may have been thinking like, man, I ain't never seen Bam pissed off. He ain't gonna do nothing but. Yeah. Mess around and find out and what

[Shannon Sharpe]

happened if the day that. You want a joke, he's having the worst day of his life.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Ooh, you gonna catch the repercussions of.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't know what somebody endured while they were a child. Oh, man, you don't know their background. Because remember now, when you deal with an individual lady. Deal with a guy. Guy deal with a lady. You're not just dealing with her. You're dealing with her past. You're dealing with her trauma.

[Joe Odom]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you don't know it might be a situation that somebody has said something to him, and he wasn't in a situation where he could defend himself like he can now. Yeah, now you put him right back in a situation that he had hoped he'd never be in, but he can defend himself now. Yeah, now you got hell on your hands now. You got to a.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Everybody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you got to be a hostage negotiator to talk his ass down. I'm just saying.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

And now you got a black eye playing now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now it's. It's. It's. Cause I'm like. Like, you want rock around on the team, Y' all still got to be teammates. And this man don't whipped you. I mean, how'd that work? Oh, how'd that work?

[Joe Odom]

Hey, I'm just saying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm just.

[Joe Johnson]

Chad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know, because I've been on team when we had fights, and, you know, I ain't know. Everybody know I was the guy. I was kind of like the. The voice of reason, you know, trying to keep peace with everybody. Defense, offense. But then sometimes, hey, you say something about somebody mama, and the mama's dead.

[Home Depot Co-Host]

What's up?

[Joe Odom]

What's up? Hey, I have how many fights you

[Shannon Sharpe]

didn't know that, Uncle.

[Joe Odom]

You ain't never had no fights in training camp? Especially training camp? No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell, no, man.

[Joe Odom]

Oh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yo, man, it's 100 degrees. We're gonna be out there two hours. I'm saving that energy.

[Joe Odom]

Yeah, I had. I had one fight. I never forget. I had one fight with our safety. At the time, I think it was. I don't think. I don't know if you remember. His name was Maduke Williams. He was really. He was good. He was nice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I do. I know. Yeah.

[Joe Odom]

Really, really solid safety. And we got into it. I forgot what it was. Maybe hit me after a play or something like that. But, yeah, it wasn't long. Just, you know, little scuffle. Yeah, that was it. That was the only time. Only. Only time I ever had had a fight. And I was in training camp at Georgetown, and probably we had that fight. We was tired of playing against each other.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. He probably.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Probably overly aggressive. Yeah.

[Joe Odom]

Huh?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He was overly aggressive?

[Joe Odom]

I think so. I think he might have been. And. And. And knowing that. Okay, we got the pads on. If anything, just thud me up. Of all players that actually hit. Don't hit me. Hey, Joe. Don't hit me. You know, and I. I just, you know. Well, Marvin. Marvin said. Well, Marvin hit that whistle, man. Get y' all that. And then that was the end of it right there.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I ate. Cause I already know. Hey, well, we're not practicing hard enough. If you got that kind of energy to fight, we're not practicing hard enough. Let's go. Another 30 minutes, bro. We are there. I'm 45 already.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah,

[Shannon Sharpe]

and in two a day. Oh, man. Nah, bro. Now, if you brought. You know, you have a joint practice, Ocho, that's something entirely different.

[Joe Odom]

Yeah, now that's old.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No matter what tired, man. What you want to do, man? Hey, get. Let's get out of this practice. Every play, Joe. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Cut it out. Hey, get his ass out of there. Somebody get in there. Hey, same thing.

[Joe Odom]

Same thing. You know what's funny, Joe? Uncle Joe, Every year on espn, they have these long think pieces about joint practices and everybody fighting. Mind you, I've been retired now 13 years. At every joint practice, it's a fight, and they get on ESP and acting like, oh, my goodness, I can't believe they fighting in training camp.

[Draymond Green]

Hello.

[Joe Odom]

Have y' all ever been in an organized activity with two different teams competing with pads on? Hey, that's gonna always be a fight.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

And plus, hell, y' all tired of playing against each other? So once you do play against somebody else, all that. All that testosterone started to come out because that. That y' all playing a. A sport that's built off contact.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Y' all looking for it. Y' all looking for the confrontation, Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, Joe, we play a sport that was built on intimidation.

[Joe Johnson]

That's a good one.

[Joe Odom]

That's a good one. That's a good one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We trying. We're tr. We're trying to break a move a man. We trying to break a man's spirit.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yes. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what football was founded on. You got a plot of land? I got a plot of land. My job is to try to get as far as I can on your plot of land. Your job is to try to get as far as I can. You can on my plot of land. I ain't going nowhere because I know if you keep setting up shop on my side, pretty soon you're gonna own the real estate and I ain't gonna have nothing.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hello, Hello.

[Joe Odom]

I like that. And it's so funny if you think about it, Uncle Joe. I mean, obviously y' all see me in person. Joe. You see me, uncle. You seen me, you know, for years. Is. Is the intimidating factor is I wasn't able to do it because I'm not imposingly intimidating at all. I tried to intimidate as well, but I played the middle game, right? Trash talking. Now, if I get you out your game, I'm gonna get you out your game up here. Not with this, because I don't have that. So I had to use talking trash to get you out the game. If I can get you to. If I can get you angry, I got you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Joe Odom]

I got you by this much. I just need to get you angry. I need to get you to converse with me, which is why I never wore a mouthpiece, Joe. I ain't wearing mouthpiece. No purpose. If I can get you in a conversation. Yeah, I got him all game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you know what? Even no matter where I've been, you know, we playing cards, we rolling dice. I say, look, guys, hey, somebody gonna win, somebody gonna lose, somebody gonna be talking ish, and somebody gonna get upset. We gonna keep our hands to ourselves.

[Joe Odom]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, ain't nobody here got. I got kids. You got kids, you got kids, but I don't see none of them right here at this table. Keep your hands to yourself. We fine. We fine.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You know how they go.

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

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[Joe Johnson]

Ah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Our very special guest. Join us.

[Home Depot Announcer]

Man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, hey. What's going on, man? Where are you?

[Joe Odom]

He muted.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you muted. Spank. You muted.

[Joe Johnson]

You still all right? How about now?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you got.

[Joe Johnson]

All right, all right. I'm in New Jersey. I'm getting ready for the O.J. anderson golf event tomorrow, followed by Cool and the Gang on Tuesday. That's right. Cool in the game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, Cool in the game. Cool in the game. Performed at our first super bowl show, our party. We got everything.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, that's right. Okay. That's right. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, hey, you know what, man? Everybody asked that. You've been retired, you've been retired three decades now. So what's a typical day for,

[Joe Johnson]

oh, in the summer now that it's hot? A typical day is, bro, you gotta get up early to get out there and get that golf in before it get too hot because you don't want to be, hey, hey, bro, you know, we don't want to be reminded about being in the, in the tobacco field. So we got to get out there and get it in good. But that's pretty much it, man. I, I, I get a chance to enjoy my friends. My daughter is self sufficient now at 32 years old, so don't have to really worry about her. You know, I got my brother out of the house, I got my mom out of the house, my grandma out of the house, man, I'm living for me right now. My sister at, my sister's still in the house, but she good. I'm living for me right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You keep talking about your friend. You got one friend, H.G. and Fee Lee and Feli.

[Joe Johnson]

So my question is, why you put my business in the street, huh? Yeah,

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you know what? And people are I, and you, you always call me, say, man, people always ask you when they see you say, man, I heard your brother say this on Nightcap, man, is that, is that true? Is that true? You say? That's the number one question that you get when people see you. And it's like, man, your brother said this about your grandfather and is that true, man? Did your grandfather really say this? Your grandfather really do?

[Joe Johnson]

Yes. When I don't, when I see the clips myself, I usually comment like, yeah, he, he, he did. See, he did do that. You know, he did say that. Like you told the story about granny hooking me in the eyelid, sitting behind her as she's fishing, throwing the pole. I'm like, that, that happened. I'm like, he, he kind of glossed over the story where you set the field on fire and then went back and told papa that somebody did it. He said it was you boys. I got the punishment for that, you know, so it's interesting because, because you're three years younger than me. It's just interesting of the stories you remember and how you remember with the accuracy of, you know, you couldn't tell about the beating that I got for you setting the field on fire because you didn't experience that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, hey. But he used to, he used to tell it though, didn't hey, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, let me tell you. If. If you want to know where the Lindbergh baby is, don't tell him. If you want to know where Amelia Earhart is, don't tell Shannon. Because if Shannon know it, you don't have to bribe him. He gonna tell it for free. He gave you up. He's giving you up for free.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I told the story I was telling Joe with Ocho. The story?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We watched it. We was watching. Popeye gave us $2 to wash the truck. You watched the body? I washed the tires. You take it from there.

[Joe Johnson]

All right, first of all, Joe, we watched the car totally wrong. You supposed to watch the car from the top down. We started from the bottom up, so he. He owned. So by the time. That dishwash detergent that we were using to wash the car, by the time we got to the. By the time I got to the top, you know, the brake dust and everything had already just eaten that. That detergent up. He came out there and looked at that bass, and he was like, boy, y'. All, first of all, he threatened us because he's like, boy, y'.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all know y' all need your ass well for doing this, okay? That's the first thing he said. And then he was just, you know, because it was one of the few times that he allowed us to do something without instructing us. So it didn't go well. I. I don't even think we got the $2, because let me tell you something else. I don't know if. I don't know if Shannon told you guys this, but what he would do was, is he would pay us $2 to wash the car and then charge us a dollar to take us to the store. And there was no, you know, oh, joke. You know, you'd be like, hey, man, give me some of them Skittles and get me a Reese cup. No, sir. There was no buying for somebody if you didn't play the dollar.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everybody.

[Joe Johnson]

Everybody. Everybody had to pay that toll. So he. He was a true.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See what I tell people that they, like, man, it wasn't like that. He told me because he came out there because spanking say, hey, go tell Papa we don't finish with the car.

[Draymond Green]

Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I go in the house just like he instructed me to, just like a good little brother supposed to do what his big brother tell me. Do something.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I go get Papa. I said, papa, you done? He come out there. He put his overalls on. He got one strap hanging. He come out there, he look At

[Joe Johnson]

I should be shot. I should whip y' all ass is what I should do. That's what he said.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He said. He said anything. He said anything.

[Joe Johnson]

But, yeah, he was like, man, Joe, he was. Hold on. You didn't tell him the one about. About how he used to. Sometimes he would make you feel so stupid. Now, for a lack of a better word, joe, we washed the car. Now it's time to wax it. So instead of saying, hey, go over and grab the wax, he says, hey, Spanky, go get that Jay Wax. Like, whoa, Jay. What? What's the J Wax? So I'm looking. Joe, I'm like this. So I'm looking at the Jay Wax. And. And I'm like, I'm looking at the wax, but I'm looking for the J Wax. Hey, boy. Boy, get that J. Eat him up, Jay Wax. Eat him up. Because it was. It was so close to me. If it was a snake, it would have been, but he. He did things like that. But it's amazing, though, that Shannon has the memory being three years, because when Papa died, you would have been what, nine? Eight. Nine. Eight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I would have been nine my birthday.

[Joe Johnson]

And so for him to remember, and he was not in the fire as much as I was. I mean, if I were to start a podcast and start telling these stories, and these folks would arrest Barney Porter, they would dig him up and arrest his ass for the thing. Joe, Joe, this is. I'm telling you, you start back talking, because I don't want to talk too much. But, Joe, I used to sleep with him. Shannon slept with my grandma. I slept with him. He would wake me up at 2 in the morning, make me ride with him to the truck stop. He got eggs, grits, toast. He got the pancakes with the syrup. He got coffee. And he would look at me and say, yeah, you don't want to eat this because you're gonna eat cereal in the morning.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He takes baby to watch him eat.

[Joe Johnson]

Joke, guys. The reason he nicknamed me Spank is he couldn't say Sterling, so he was like that boy. Their name Spanky. I ain't calling him whatever that you named him. I don't know where you get that fancy name from. His name Spank. And to this day, there's two people that still called me Spanky. My brother and my. My homeboy, Calvin McNeil are the only two people that called me that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, what about we got in trouble for cutting the grass.

[Joe Johnson]

Wait, which plates? Because. Because. Which is crazy now, how we got in trouble if he showed you a way to do something. You had to do it that way so you couldn't cut. I'm like, it's cutting grass. So. So he.

[Joe Odom]

You can't get that. You can't get that wrong, though.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, you can. Yeah. Because if he was going from the house to the well, and you went from the road to the chicken coop or to the horse pen, he lose his mind. No, it is now. It wasn't me. It wasn't me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because he gonna come out. The first thing he gonna ask you.

[Joe Johnson]

Who told you to do this? So.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, you know, hey, Joe, we gotta push it. We thought

[Joe Johnson]

he asked more rhetorical questions than anybody on the planet. Hey, hey.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Absolutely.

[Draymond Green]

Who.

[Joe Johnson]

Who told y' all to do this? Because I know if you answer this question, whatever answer you give is going to be wrong. And there was consequences and repercussions for any answer you got for any answer you gave. It was it. Let me tell you. Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, let me ask you a question. How was he about me?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, no, no. Could you be late, bro? How you. You know, you. You said Harold Green is. Is my best friend, bro. The only falling out me and Harold have ever had was he was late coming to my house, bro. We leaving, driving to Atlanta. He's supposed to be at my house at 7. He gets there about 7:35. Bro, I'm steaming. The one thing Barney Porter was not gonna. You wasn't gonna be as late. That's not gonna happen. Him. He is not gonna. He is not gonna have you attempt to be late. Because if you don't respect Barney Porter's time, there was consequences and there was repercussions. It always that way. You were gonna respect. You were gonna respect his time because you respected him. He was that way. He was definitely that way. But, yeah, Shannon, boy, let me tell you. But this podcast thing, I. I know you guys, man. Y' all doing a heck of a job, and I enjoy it. But, Shannon, man, you talking too much. You putting all our business in the street. That's why our sister don't want him to write a book. Cause, boy, it's like, look, Shannon, my sister got so fed up with Shannon talking about us growing up in a house without running water that she almost disowned.

[Joe Odom]

Yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

but people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But see, Spank, when we. We tell them, because, you know, Grandma Lou had the old, old Little House on the Prairie, the prime pump that you pull the water.

[Joe Johnson]

That's right. That's right. Yeah. We had to lower the bucket.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And when I tell people that, to my man, that was for that's from the 50s and 60s. I said, how you gonna tell me something I experienced?

[Joe Johnson]

But how about this?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't telling you about the experience that I read about. I'm telling you about a list.

[Joe Johnson]

Tell the boys about what we put in the well to get to keep the bugs out. So we didn't bring up a well bugs when we brought up the bucket. What we put in there, Catfish. Put a catfish in the whale. Wait, what'd that do?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Catfish would eat the bugs. See, the catfish would come up and eat the bugs.

[Joe Johnson]

So when you lower the bucket, you ain't gonna get a bucket full of bugs. You getting. You're getting pure water, right? I can't tell you if it works. I'm just telling you what we did. Hey,

[Shannon Sharpe]

rest his soul. Eugene, our first cousin Eugene, brother, sister, kids. We was walking up, walking towards Sammy Kirkland house. Big old red walls beside the barn, everybody. And we. Hey, you know what? I don't know what made him. Joe, man. Let's see who hit that wall's nest now. I'm the youngest. Arnel is the oldest by 7. Eugene is the next oldest by 6. Spank is the next oldest by 3. Lane is 2 years old. To me, I'm the youngest.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This had to be. I couldn't have been no more than six, at least. Yeah. So. So we taking turns. We tried to think.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, we were firing at that thing, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And it just right on cue, Eugene hit it. They take off, they gone. Well, I take off, but it's a little bit too late, man. They told me up.

[Joe Odom]

How they get you?

[Joe Johnson]

He couldn't run fast. He couldn't run fast enough.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I couldn't run fast enough. Ocho, you gotta realize. 13 ug, 12, spanky, 9.

[Joe Johnson]

Fellas. He likes to talk about what kind of athlete he was. He ain't never had wheels, though. He was always. He was always a dump truck on the highway. He was always in the way. So.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey. So I get.

[Lele Pons]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I take off running. I. Hey, they stop running, they laughing. I run straight to the house because I won't get them in trouble. I walk in, hey. So by the time they get there, they coming. They coming in there. I'm out of breath. I breathe the hard

[Scotty B]

papa.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They throw in the waltzes.

[Joe Johnson]

You should have run. But papa, I did run. You should have run fast.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That joke. Hey, he was very matter of fact. He had. He did not have an empathy or sympathy bone in your. In his body. If he told you, if he promised you something, set your Clock back. It was gonna happen everything. I'm gonna tell. If he said, I'm gonna tell your ass. Well, he didn't tell you that.

[Home Depot Announcer]

He just.

[Joe Johnson]

Or if he looked. Or if he gave you that look in church. Your rest of your day was ruined because you knew it was gonna. It was like, I don't know exactly when, but it's gonna, you know, like on the fourth Sunday, man, was the time that we got a chance to work on our athletic moves because all our. Our cousins would come over, our aunts and my grandma would cook. So we're eating. We getting cake. Oh, so we doing it up big dog. We doing it big.

[Joe Odom]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So you don't forgot about the look you got when. When the pastor was praying or. No, when. When one of the deacons, either Deacon Joe Sharp or. Or Deacon Naked Nathan Maynard were playing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nick Faniel lost to Mr. Yeah. He took over.

[Joe Johnson]

So when you kind of was nodding off that dozen because you should have gone to bed early and when you, you know, when you wake up, you look. The first thing you do is look over in that deacon corner to our left to see if he looking and he looking at. He look at you and just get on. Amen. Amen. Amen. You don't forgot all about it when you get the brakes beat off. You at about 9:30 that night. Get the brakes beat off. Yeah, Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Beat. He was. He was a. He was different. And I think I thought Spank. Spank had the most of his ways. I think once we grew up and the way we was growing up. But now that I sit back and think about it, I think I'm more like him than you. More public time around it.

[Joe Johnson]

You more public. And see, see, Barney Porter would have never done a podcast. He'd never done a podcast. Barney Porter would have never done a podcast with you two guys either. So. So there's two things that Barney Porter would have never done and that and Bart. He always kept stuff close to the vest. Like he would say things to us that he wouldn't say to other. Our other cousins or to his sons. Because I spent more time with my Uncle Thurman, who was a farmer with him and him. So I. I learned how to be a man from them too. But his. You can say you are more like him, but Libby would say that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think my mannerisms, I think the. The lateness, I think.

[Joe Johnson]

But you again, you public. You public, though. So you. You have a Persona where you ain't like, you know, you ain't jovial all the Time. You ain't. You ain't on Nightcap, you ain't on. You ain't on Nightcap, you ain't on Club Shay all the time. So you kind of have to be. Barney Porter would have never done a podcast. Bonnie Porter ain't never coming out letting you know what he think. He never doing that. He, he, he. And. And if he don't like something, he's gonna say he don't like it. And he really don't care what your act or reaction is. This is what he believed. So if you don't like it, you don't like it over there, which is fine.

[Prime Video Ride or Die Narrator]

You.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, there's a scene which is really crazy about this movie, Lean on Me. There's a scene where the. The assistant principal said, you can't throw the. The fire chief out. And Joe Clark says, yeah, he's saying that too. But you know where he's saying it? He's saying that in the parking lot. That's how Barney was. He would. He. He gave you his mind. And there was no retort or, you know, let me come back to you on that. That was. This is my way and there's the road over there.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Y' all know how it is. Hey, hey. They remind me, I'm telling you. Remind me so much. When I hear uncle talk about his grandpa, it remind me of Nolan Richardson, bro, when I played at the University of Arkansas. Hey, man, it wasn't a lot of, you know, Kiki Ki, hahaha, patch on your back, you know, good job. It wasn't. Hey, man, it was not a lot of that, bro. I'm talking about when he came in. When he came in my mother's living room. So you gonna send him to me as a boy? I'm sending back.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what happened.

[Joe Odom]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Johnson]

Barney, we. We do this a couple of times at our golf course. We'd be sitting around and they'd be like, talk about words you never heard your parent or guardians say. So I'm like my grandfather. Good job. Never heard him say that. That. Yeah, that's right. Never heard him say that. Not to us. No, I'm saying to us. Never heard him say good job. Never heard that was right. Never heard that. Keep doing what you're doing. No. Whatever you did was wrong until he stopped doing it. Whatever you did was wrong until he stopped doing it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I told Joe the story. The last. Probably the last two years of his life. How did Papa Tony's knees?

[Joe Johnson]

He couldn't Sleep in the bed. So he. He. He. He knelt down either on the. By the sofa or in the bed. Well, on the side of the bed. He couldn't sleep in the bed. He slept on his knees.

[Home Depot Announcer]

Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But what. But why he couldn't sleep in the bed.

[Joe Johnson]

Honestly. And I usually don't say that, because usually when people say honestly, they get ready to lie. But he couldn't sleep in the bed because he thought somebody put a root on. Yeah, my grandpa. Yes, indeed, my boy. Yes, sir. And I ain't gonna. And I'm not even gonna tell you that somebody came over, did some things outside his bedroom window. And a half a. And a jar of frogs and lizards and snakes. I ain't gonna even tell you all that popped up. And I ain't gonna even tell you that the person that did this opened this jar and said, barney, if you see how this frog is dried up, if that whole frog would have dried up, there ain't nothing nobody could have done for you. I ain't even gonna tell you that because I know you're not gonna believe it, because us standing there, we don't to this day, we still don't believe it, do we, Shane? And that's what happened. That is a true story.

[Home Depot Co-Host]

Damn.

[Joe Odom]

You think stuff like that is real, though, Roots And.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, now, the Bible I read says no. So I'm gonna say no. I'm gonna say that ain't real. I'm gonna say that ain't true. But in 1975, it was. It was in 1975. Yeah.

[Prime Video Ride or Die Narrator]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because if you. If the problem was. Is that what he said he believed?

[Joe Johnson]

That's right.

[Joe Odom]

Right.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he believed it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So people like, man, I ain't scared of the dead, because the dead can't do anything. They can't hurt you. They can make you hurt your dad.

[Joe Johnson]

Tell you what, you don't ever see. You don't ever see anybody walking through a cemetery at night. They always in a hurry. You know, they're walking in the cemetery. Everybody always in a hurry. Always.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, that's. And I told a story about when he got into it. And that was you. That had to be. That might have been 74, 75. When he was in the. He. Because the front porch was, like, right here, his bedroom, his bed was as

[Joe Johnson]

you walked to the doors on the right. Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. And his brother kept thumping me, thumping me on my head.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he had a saying. Joe Ocho, he said, don't he.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He. He detested it. He despised it. Yeah, if you thought a kid on

[Joe Johnson]

his head, you'll make a big head,

[Shannon Sharpe]

and he wouldn't learn.

[Joe Johnson]

Now, I ain't saying that ain't true either, based on your grades in high school, so I ain't saying that ain't true. But, no, he. He. He was. He was as adamant about that as being late. He. He did not play. You hit the kid anywhere else, do not thump the kid on there. Don't do it. Which is really weird. But, yeah, he would. That was him. That. That was definitely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He kept thumping me, and I kept. I'm like, oh, stop, stop. And you could hear him, Joe, he always. He get up, put them coveralls on. You can hear the change in his pocket. He got that. What. Hey, he got that one strap. He come out there,

[Joe Johnson]

now he's talking to his. He talked to his brother. He what? He talking to his brother. You could.

[Home Depot Announcer]

You.

[Joe Johnson]

You hit that boy one more time. And you know when he said that, like, everybody was, like, bristled because he wasn't threatening. My grandfather was never really threatening like that. And. Hey, hey, you hit that boy one day, hit that boy one more time, and I. And everybody, like, froze, and I drew a blank because I had never seen that side. Actually, that might be the only side. The only time that that came out, because I don't think he ever. He and his best friend, Virgil Wiggins, I don't think they ever had any. No, I think. I think that might have been the only time I've ever seen my grandfather mad. And I'm talking about old school Southern mad. And. And what. What y' all won't remember is back in the day when. When old folks got mad, they handled it with a straight razor or a pistol. There was no going outside throwing fish. They were getting ready to. Somebody was either going to the hospital or to the morgue. They were getting it in. And I think that's the only time I saw Papa. That was. Yeah, he was. He was done because Shannon was the baby. So he was a little bit. He was a lot of. Bit different than how if he had been thumping me on the head, my grandfather would have said a word. But. But Shannon was a little bit different, too. He. He. He made sure, like, if Shannon would have had to go to the truck stop, Shannon would have got to eat what he ate. So. So, you know, Shannon. Shannon. Well, you know, as the baby. Shannon. Shannon, I. I am probably more proud of what he turned into, because Joe, he wasn't supposed to be. He ain't supposed to be There. He ain't supposed to be where he is right now. He ain't supposed to be as successful as he is right now. He ain't supposed to be as articulate as he is, even though sometimes he get his words mixed up and he gets excited and they don't come out right. It's okay. I know what he's. I know what he talked. Hey, Ocho. I know what he's saying. I. I know what he's saying, but he. He was. For that time. He got enough of what that time was, man. It's. It's. It is. And. And these stories are. These are just a few of the stories. I mean, when my. My grandfather was gonna kill his own brother over. Over my brother, that. That's how he felt about Shannon. That's how he was a bait. He was basically my grandfather's baby. Even though my Uncle James is his baby boy, that's how he felt about Shannon. So he was gonna kill him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, he didn't.

[Joe Johnson]

He's gonna kill his brother. He's gonna kill his brother over Shannon. Yeah, he's gonna kill his brother over shine. That's. That's how.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he left, Ocho. He left. Check this out. He left his way. Let me tell you. He left. He never came back. And when my grandfather died, he wasn't going to church.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. That is that. Yes, sir. Now I'm talking about that. It's kind of funny, you know, spiritual as they were, man. Look, when they hated, they hated when they were angry. But there was no. I'm sorry. Ain't no coming back from that. That, you know, because, boy, what you saying, man?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, My, my. I'm trying to think.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Granny wasn't like.

[Joe Johnson]

No, Granny was totally.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They would have told. I don't know how they got together because they were the total.

[Joe Johnson]

That's why.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, granted, but that's why. But she wasn't like, yeah, my grandpa. Yeah, Papa. You never. You never saw him without that. 45 in his back pocket. You never saw a straight razor, too.

[Joe Johnson]

You just carry straight razor, too? Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey. Two things a man should always carry. A wallet and a straight razor or gun. That. That's the two things. A wallet or a straight razor or a gun.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was five. I was five years old. Ocho had a wallet, had a bill.

[Joe Johnson]

And because we were robbing him, he didn't know it. He started carrying a chain on his wallet because we were taking money out to buy ice cream. I've already. I'm Telling y' all this. I've already had to tell that story. If he found out about telling y', all, as y' all know, I've already had. I already asked God for forgiveness. But, man, you know what? Joe O. Joe. Fellas, I, I will say this. You know, a lot of people can pinpoint one or two things. I, I, I, I don't think I'm here this way. You know, getting the chance to play golf all over the country, getting a chance to enjoy my NFL friends, my celebrity friends. Without that upbringing, I, I don't think I'm here. I don't think that, that discipline of I'm. We've been working, you know, because in the Bible it says, you know, do things not for your human master, but for your heavenly one. But I've been working for God all my life, because the way Barney Porter had you do stuff, oh, God had to be pleased with the work we did. God. God was thoroughly pleased with the work we did because that's how we was raised. There wasn't a number.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How much, how much do we make for catching chickens?

[Joe Johnson]

Thousand. So if there was 14,000 chickens in there, Let me see. Me, me, Shannon, Arnell, Eugene, Lanny, Robbie, Bernard. So the seven of us had, you know, 10 had 12, 13, 14. Every now and then we get a 18. We love getting 18. 19, 000 chicken house, because that's 19 in our pocket. But, but we, we getting up in there, bro. And, and couple of the older guys from Claxton were catchers, so they were catch. So the. A good night, Ocho Joe. A good night is you carrying six, three in each hand. Now you want to catch. Hell, you had that night where you got four in one hand and three in the other, bro. And, and, and I'm talking about you, like, you know, 12, 13, 14, 15. Bro, you. I'm like, weight strong has never bothered me. Right? I ain't never been a problem. But that, that's that upbringing, man, because you didn't go in there going, oh, man, I hope Uncle Jake, I hope Uncle James, or I hope Earl don't come tonight, man. Nah, bro, we were like, we need to get it. We need to get this money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

If we plan on getting, you know, because we used to get jeans back in the day, but they were all blue, they were all the same size, they were all the same length. So regardless, if you had six pair of jeans, they were identical. You didn't wear them out so, so bad. Joe, I'm telling you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, but, but we call Chickens, that's after you don't work in the field.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, you don't win.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't win. You don't got that. 7. Got in the field at 7, got home at 5. You 8. Hey, we go play basketball, sit back down because they gonna come get you when it.

[Joe Johnson]

Now we ain't playing

[Shannon Sharpe]

black share by day.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he ain't playing basketball down at the Wreck. That's me and him out in the yard working on our game. That's me and him playing. Yeah. And then because, you know, back in the day, you had to wait till it got dark to kick so chickens would all gather in one spot. So, you know, we getting picked up at 9, 9:30, depending on where we're going, get picked up at 9:30, 10 o' clock at night. And then we in the house, in the chicken house by 11. And we. We need to get up out of there by 11 30, we need to be in the car on the truck, you know, getting back to the house. Because we got seven o'. Clock.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We got seven o'.

[Draymond Green]

Clock.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, Mr. Joe, the Tatum brothers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Are we gonna. Are we gonna go in the back the fields again? Oh, we was doing.

[Joe Johnson]

Doing school too. Yeah, we had to get. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.

[Joe Odom]

So that means y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All.

[Joe Odom]

Y' all had to be sleepy.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, Shannon was, as you can tell, sleeping. He was sleeping. I. I was not sleep. Ocho. But. But the thing is, man, and I'm gonna say this again, when you don't know any better. That's all right. That. That Norm is okay, man. That Norm is not hard. That Norm is not difficult. I don't ever remember us complaining about it being too hot. I don't. I mean, because you gotta understand, in the tobacco field, you got on long sleeves. You got on blue jeans and long sleeves. In the chicken house and a hat

[Shannon Sharpe]

on your head to keep it in

[Joe Johnson]

the chicken house, you got on blue jeans and long sleeves. So everything. Yeah. Cause so. So, you know, when you don't know any better, that ain't nothing wrong with this. Because, I mean, we. Because when my grandfather was alive, we were working for Barney Porter. The fact that he was feeding and clothing us, as he used to say all the time, that's. That's your pay right there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's your pay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Odom]

You know, they didn't that sound like. They sound like Denzel and fences.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes,

[Lele Pons]

he's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what.

[Joe Johnson]

That's exactly what he said. That's a good one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're not gonna get no pay.

[Joe Johnson]

I Feed you and he's. And he's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And clothing you and put a roof over there.

[Joe Johnson]

He said it, you know what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You said something earlier. You said, you proud of me because I wasn't supposed to be here. Tell her what granny used to tell me every day.

[Joe Johnson]

Which part? Because first of all, somebody was gonna get him in that global mouth of his. So they were. Somebody gonna kill him. Yes, somebody gonna kill him. And then, you know, and even, you know, I'm gonna say it. When he, you know, his senior year, when he. He was all this and all that, and. And you know, they weren't calling or coming to see him. I wasn't worried about him because I was like, if this, you know, And I wasn't in college to go to the NFL. I was in college because that's what I wanted to do. I wanted to play pro football, and that's what I had to do. But, Joe, which is really, fellas, which is really crazy, is when I got drafted, bro. The draft came on and the phone rang. So, you know, I'm in the car headed to the airport. When he got drafted. The first day went by and we were over at our good friend Melville and Jim Bower, Peter. Peter and Michael Bower's mom and great family. I just saw Jim and Melvin the other day, as a matter of fact, channel told me to tell you hello. We were over at their house. So when we get back to my house, he's disappointed and he's hurt. So we get up the next morning, we go over to the University of South Carolina to work out. Like, bro, let's just go, go get it in. So we end up working out. And the whole time I'm driving down there, he's just telling me, I just want a chance, man. I just want a chance, man. So he's gone from I should be in the first three rounds to I just want a chance. Well, to me, I didn't care because I'm like, bro, you gonna live like I live whether you make it or not. You know, I know you want to play and you want to establish your own. I got that. But, bro, you see what I'm driving. You already dropped. Hold on. He had a Mercedes before I did, so he was in the NFL, and. And, you know, since we putting each other's business in the street, but I paid Shannon's bills in the NFL until my daughter was born, so he was in the NFL and I was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, when I told you about Dry snitch, ain't nobody else, you know.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Hey, I told, Hey, I told you, bro, you started it. That's why Libby don't want you writing a book. Because, see, Libby would have to come out with all this. And you know, the first story Libby gonna tell is you, you stealing the, the ring, saying it's your fire truck. I really, I didn't care, you know, at that time. I know, you know, I know how important it was to him, but I didn't care because I was like, brother, where I live, however I'm living, you gonna live the exact same way, bro. This ain't me living this way. And you gonna be over in a mobile home. And there ain't nothing wrong with a mobile home if that's how you prepared to live. But I was just gonna make sure that just because he was my brother and what we had gone through together, bro, whatever, I got you. And I mean, he'll tell you, bro, I had one, I had the first SL convertible in, in the state of South Carolina. My brother wrecked it. No, he didn't. Hey, fellas, he didn't wreck it. He junkyarded it is what he said. No, he, what he did was, is he ran into to someone and hit the Mercedes emblem and snatched the Mercedes emblem out the grill. So he calls me and he goes, hey, man, I, I junkyard your stuff, man. Wait, what? I, yeah, bro, I junkyard your stuff, man. What, what are you talking about? Your car, man. I, I, I, I wrecked it. You, you wrecked my, my new car? I said, well, that's all right, bro. We get it, you know. You all right? Yeah, yeah, I'm good. You coming back? No, no, I'm gonna stay down here for a few more days.

[Joe Odom]

Hey, you can't, you kept driving it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Lele Pons]

What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, I'm in a convertible sl, brand new, man. Hey. And they're sitting on the back of it like they're in the parade too.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe. Joe. Hey, man. Hey. So, so. Well, man, you know, just come on back, you know. You coming back today? Oh, no, man, I'm gonna stay a few more days, man. I'm just gonna come back, you know, when it's old, because you know I'm gonna come back when it's old. Oh, you're gonna come back when? When the party over Black Holly, Spring break. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then that lead, right? Hey, Joe, didn't that lead right in the freak Nick? See, he ain't tell you, but he with me if you freak Nick, though, he. Man, this, I see this.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, I can't.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe, I was like, hey, hey, Boy, yeah, I'm building. Hey, I'm building a name for myself, and I don't need my name over here. That what I didn't need. I ain't need my name over here. But no Joe. Hey, growing up with this dude, man, it was, hey, Joe. He. He told a lie, and I like to call out lies. He said he beat the time he beat me in basketball. He ain't. He ain't never beat me in basketball.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I beat him. Joe.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hold on, hold on. Og. How bad you used to do it?

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, so, so, Joe, you. Okay, so you ISO, Joe. I used to ISO back in the day now, so. Hey, hey, hey, Joe. Joe. I was bigger than him, so of course I'm going in the post, so just so I could. We could get. Make the game go longer. I kind of can't play him hard. So what he figured out was if he. If he scored first, I'm gonna win the game. So what he started doing was he would score and then run in the house and be like, man, I beat that big old joke.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can't believe that big joke.

[Joe Johnson]

I beat it. So, so now, Joe, I'm hot. So now I got to go in. You know I got to go in the house. Joe, Right? Oh, Joe. Hey. Oh, Joe, you know, he, he doesn't. He, he. So he. I gotta let him score because now I got to work on my moves because we ain't playing organized sports in high school. We only playing me and him. So I gotta let him score. So he scored one nut. So, you know, he go to take it out. He dribble it two times. He take off running to the house, beat that big old joker. You ain't gonna never. You ain't gonna never play on anybody's team, Joe. Boy, that joke used to have me so hot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did I lose, Joe? I thought I throw the ball in the Hog Pin. He go in there and tell Granny like a. Like a tattletale granny. That boy threw the ball in the Hog Pin. Him.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yo, Granny would be like, y' all done playing? Well, no, he threw the ball in the hog bin. You know what? Somebody gonna either hit that boy in his old big mouth or they gonna kill it. That's what they go. No, Granny, I'm gonna kill him. I'm gonna be the one to kill it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. When you think back to them days, bro, like, those are like golden days. Golden times when you think back because they mold you into to the people who y' all are today. Because I, I, I Totally understand those type of.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know,

[Joe Johnson]

in the times, especially in the last year or so, having to go back and think about, you know, us growing up, they were so special, Joe, because at the time, you're thinking, this is all we gonna ever be able to do. You know, we never gonna be able to play organized sports. You know, we're never gonna be able to really fulfill what talent we think we got. So, you know, man, let me tell you, you want to see some moves? You should have been there on fourth Sunday when all of us are together playing dodgeball or kickball or softball. Man, look, you talking about athletic, bro. Bro, athletic was. I mean, it was an understatement for us just because it was one. It was. It was literally once a month that we got a chance to do it. And, you know, those times are real special because you, like, this is my NBA championship. This is my Super Bowl. This is my MLB championship. You know, this is the. This is the best it's gonna get. So this is gonna have to hold on for a month. So we got to put together this type of energy and effort because it's got to hold us for a month. So, yeah, it was very special times back then. Very special.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You realize it's now that we sit down and we call and we think about. Think back to being in those saplings. And Granny would say, boy, y' all stop bending them saplings. Them trees ain't gonna. Y' all gonna break them. They ain't gonna be able to grow. And we sitting on there. We come home, so you better not have to take them clothes off. You got Red Bulls on you. Probably is that. We sit back and think about it, Joe and Nocho, it's like. And. And every time and like, he said no, he would. You know, we fight and everything. And I would tell my grandma. My grandma never punished him.

[Joe Johnson]

She'd say, son, we never really fought. It was usually two licks pass. I hit you, you start crying, and that was pretty much the end of it, you know? And then I feel bad because I'm be. I'm peeking on a weaker kid, and I'm gonna need him again tomorrow because we're gonna be right back on the. Out there on the court tomorrow. So I can't punish him, but I gotta let him know what he doing, right? Only for him, he was cheating.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was cheating. But see, you know how I get him, though? I let him do something. I let him do something. And then I was threatened to go tell Papa. He know that'd be the End of it. Cause so when he cut me on my thigh with the jeans, he had a. He had a pocket knife. And he was sharpening. He was sharpening on that chainsaw file. Man, that thing was so. So he's like, let me see how sharp my knife is. So I went and put on two pair of shorts, a pair of jeans. Joe. Man, that joker, he hit me with it. And I. I re. I said, dang. It started tingling.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And I felt weird down to the white. And I saw blood down to the white.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yo, I said, yeah, I gotta tell.

[Prime Video Ride or Die Narrator]

Oh, hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you don't.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe. Yo, no, you don't. That's why I got this. I got this cut right here. Because I had to let him cut me back so he wouldn't go and wrap me. Yeah, that joker, that would never.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, oh, Joe, what kind of food is this? You cut me and I joke.

[Joe Johnson]

That would have never made it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I get a cut. I got a two dollar bill and I got two.

[Joe Johnson]

He would have never made it in the mob. That joker was boy, he'd be giving up on left and right. He would have never made.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, yeah, Joe, hold on. You think I would let that man cut me? And I can't get no cut back.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Damn. Hey, you say you gotta get your get back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No matter he what he did me, I stuck a pig fork in his leg. He took it and stuck it right back in my leg.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all don't understand. There is no right or wrong. When it got to Barney Porter's desk, all parties involved were wrong. There ain't no. Yeah, there ain't no. Well, you shouldn't have it. No. Y' all both getting it and. And just to keep from getting it, like. Like he used to be, like, hey, y' all get out of bed on Saturday morning. Y' all get up. I ain't raising no lazy youngins. Y' all get up and watch the sunrise.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But what we had to get up.

[Joe Johnson]

Sunrise. Yeah, y' all boys get up. Y' all boys get up and watch the sunrise. I ain't raising those lazy young like, oh, Lord.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey, y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Y' all ain't happy when. When your grandma used to tell you go out there and give me that switch and you better.

[Joe Johnson]

No, sir. We were never that lucky. But we were never that lucky. Hey, our. Our grandparents were equal opportunists. They did their own hunting. They did their own scalping. They did their own switch getting, bro. And no. Because they knew we wasn't gonna come back with Nothing of significance. They already already knew us that well, so, you know, we ain't never had to go get our own. But then. But then, too, around our house, you get hit with anything. Yeah, I'm talking about. You'd be like, I'm. I'm looking at this light cord right here, and I don't know how many times the light cord got snatched out. And I'm like, he do that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hold up. Og real. Like, I'm telling y', all, man, I seen my cousins.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Them get. Get beat with stitching cords. Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I'm talking about. I'm talking about. Look, look, they get whooped so bad,

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't even get hit.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

And I'm crying.

[Draymond Green]

You crying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't want.

[Joe Johnson]

Now, yes. You crying because you don't want to get hit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We've been. We've been down that road.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, we were. See, the thing is, is if somebody got in trouble, we all got in trouble.

[Home Depot Announcer]

If.

[Joe Johnson]

If he did it, we got in trouble because we older and we let him do so. We all got it. I mean, there was a. There was a line. There was a line.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all don't want me to tell Papa it's gonna cost you.

[Joe Johnson]

There was a. There was a. Yeah, that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The girl gets. The girl got suspended. Somebody got suspended. They got suspended from school, huh? Oh, who got suspended? Oh, so you don't know. Well, you better not tell Barney Porter you got suspended for school. So they got to get on the bus just like, they go into school, get so. And drop off and just walk around, the whole.

[Joe Johnson]

Walk around downtown until school is out,

[Shannon Sharpe]

get back on the bus and come back home. Well, you had to pay for my. Had to pay for my secrecy, right? You know, pay.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, so I should have kept. Hey, Ojo.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey.

[Joe Odom]

Hold on.

[Joe Johnson]

How much ocho in. In 1974? 5, 76. January. I should have killed him way back then, because, bro, that joke. But it was just like, you were in constant. It was like you. You were constantly nervous. Because, see, the thing was, is everything I did, I did with him, right? Yeah, but he never got the punishment. Like. Like, not wonderful. Like, you know, he did it. I was just. But you let him do. So. Come here. Because you. You let him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was his response.

[Joe Johnson]

How am I gonna let him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Grant used to make him take. He wanted to go date Granny said you got to take.

[Joe Johnson]

How am I going. How am I gonna keep him from setting Granny garden on fire? He playing with magic. The wind blowing is 700 miles an hour. We don't know what could happen, but you gonna blame me, so. So I'm walking around the truck because I'm trying to explain myself to him because I don't deserve to beat down. See, this is what happened. So I'm walking around the truck. My sister knows that the more my grandfather walked behind me, the madder he get. So she's just, like, gonna make the decision that I should just go catch him holding so he can get this over with. Because the more he walk away, the hardest. It's gonna get worse.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, yeah, I made good look come up. I had a good little hustle. Plus, they were dating, you know, my aunt married her. She passed away. She was the one. And she would always take me with her, but she already knew. Large milkshake, cheeseburger, fries. Leave me in the car. Wind the hat part down. I'm cool.

[Joe Johnson]

She.

[Home Depot Announcer]

She.

[Joe Johnson]

She comes home with this piggy bank. Well, it's a smiley face. And so she would put the spare change that she came across in there. But it was for him. So I. I should have killed him for the money back then, but I didn't. I should. I. There was it, you know, and it's tragic in. In some ways just thinking about all. Like, we would get a gun. We would get the, you know, shotgun or the 12 gauge or the. 30, 30. And we would, hey, Granny, we're going hunting. She'd be like, y' all be careful. That was. That was the. Like, every.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Every gun we had loaded. There was never. There was never. And it never dawned on us, like, you hear, kids, somebody had an accident. He told you, no time. This ain't nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

Dead is a long time. That's what he told me. He said, hey, hey, boy. Dead is a long time. He said, so if you go messing with. He has.45, his army.45 on the seat. He go, if you go messing with this right here, dead is a long time. Now, I ain't know what that meant, but I understood that that gun was not to be touching. And when you talk about our guns being loaded, I'm talking about one in the chamber. We ain't nothing when we grab it. It's time to go to work. That we ain't listening to everyone in the hole. Well, as we grew up, then we were. We learned how to swim. We all got thrown in the same clay hole. Hey, yeah, I'm throwing you in. Get yourself out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But that was the thing, Joe.

[Scotty B]

We.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It never dawned on us to go get a gun and play with it because he had. First of all, if somebody told that somebody went and got a gun, you

[Joe Johnson]

gonna die anyway or wish you were dead.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, look here. But like, like. And when papa died, the gun still. What. What was left? Cuz my uncle James took some of them. But the guns was still loaded. I was nine, ten years old, Joe. I go get the shotgun, I go get the rifle and go down there and try to kill squirrels or shoot the birds or whatever, whatever I could at 19 years old. What? 19 year old, you know. Now to go just get a. Go get a shotgun, go get a rifle and just walk off and go shoot it.

[Joe Odom]

It depends that it depend on where you live. You got to be in the country with nobody. With nobody around. With the next house is miles away. That's about the only place.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, and the chickens. Oh, we got into trouble. Hey, they could have said they could. They could have ruined me because I killed Papa Bodrock boy.

[Joe Johnson]

They were throwing them rocks. But you know, let me tell you something. Now my brother should have been a baseball player, Joe. He should have been a baseball player

[Shannon Sharpe]

because what I was accurate with that ball. That was that rock joke.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, hold on, I gotta tell the story. But one day we came up with the idea of entertainment. We in the road outside the house is dirt road. So it's grab, you know, all the rocks. So. So och, we come up with the, with the thing he about 30, 40 yards away. So we throwing rocks at each other. You know, we trying to hit each other. But this is our entertainment, bro. This is our entertainment. Yeah, so we tried to hit each other. So I think once or twice I might have got him on the leg or on waist. So bro, we thrown probably 6, 700 rocks trying to hit each other. So I'm down trying to pick up a rock. And you know how you get that? That, that, that. The hairs on the back of that weird feeling, Joe, I looked up, it was like in slow. It was coming in slow motion with nothing. With nothing I could do but take it. Hey, it was. It was one of the only times I ever quit a competition. It was one of the only times I ever quit a competition. Joke. I was like, man, it was. I was trying to find, you know, you trying to get that rock that. You can get that, that index finger so you can get that spin.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And I was down there looking for it. When I looked up, it was like in slow motion. What? Nothing I could do, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I could. Joe, I could kill birds with a rock. They'd be, they'd be Sitting on the bridge.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that joker had it. That Daisy air rifle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How long I had that BB gun spanking.

[Joe Johnson]

It's got to be 50 years old. It's got to be. It's got to be 50 years old.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm saying it's got to be 50.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I would have the birds lined up on the clothesline.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it's got to be 50. I'm 61. It's got to be 50 years old. It's got to be 50 Years old. But let me tell you, hey, hey,

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe's about this long.

[Joe Johnson]

That was Annie Oakley and and all the other great shots. That joke. That's one thing he can do with that BB gun, dog. If it was out there, he brought it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'll coming back. I all coming back with blue jays, red cardinals.

[Joe Johnson]

Thank God there was none thank God there was none on the endangered species list because he was killing them all. He was killing them all, dog. No, he was just putting it on the clothesline.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I put him on the clothes line so they can see him.

[Joe Johnson]

Trophy.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Trophy.

[Joe Odom]

Hey, hey, hey. The car note, but that's one.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, my brother had a bunch of them on the clothesline. Had a bunch of blue jays. Robbins.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, y' all telling I when I come back. Oh, I got my, I got my teeth.

[Joe Johnson]

All the robins, we used to call them old red belly robin. Yeah, he used to have the clothesline. Yeah, he used to have the clothesline.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can eat a robin, though, Joe Ocho and Joe. You can eat a robin. Yeah, more big red belly, big fat ones.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's another thing, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was trying to get a squirt. I was trying to get quail, but I couldn't.

[Joe Johnson]

That's another thing. That's another thing too. He talk about all stuff he ate. I, I, I didn't partake in in a lot of the stuff that he ate because I was if like chitlins. I never ate a chip. I've never had a chitlin in my mouth after cleaning them. I was like, no, this is not going down that way. We're not doing that. Hog maw head cheese, pig feet. I never. Okay. Raccoons, squirrels. Yeah, I've never eaten apostles. I ain't never partake in that. I, I'm not he bougie.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, do it out.

[Joe Johnson]

Like what they like the people. Do you like the people across the river? Do it out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do it out. Okay, I will eat. Hey, Joe. I will eat now. I don't like no chitlins. I ain't like no Hog mouth. But I eat some livers in life. I eat pig ears. I eat pigtail pig feet.

[Lele Pons]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I'll eat collards. I'm not eating mustard green. Nope. Not gonna.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't like rutabagas, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

If I. If I can't wait, that's what I got to eat. Is that or corn flakes. I'll take the carnation instant milk. I will mix it in water, and I will eat me some corn flakes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but you.

[Joe Johnson]

You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ate that alligator turtle.

[Joe Johnson]

I tried it, and I was like, yep, never. I promise, God, never again. Now I do alligator turtle. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Odom]

Oh, y' all call it alligator?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Well, you. Well, you got a soft shell, which is. I mean, is.

[Joe Johnson]

Is a.

[Shannon Sharpe]

His shell like leather. It's real smooth. They streamline long. Got a long, pointy nose. That's a soft shell. And then you got the alligator. Snapping turtle. Yeah, it gotta. Got a tail like. It got a ridge like an alligator.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Now, how you cook it?

[Joe Johnson]

How you cook it? Hey, hey, I don't.

[Joe Odom]

I take them out.

[Joe Johnson]

That's a conversation y' all need to have when I'm gone, because I don't need to know that. I don't even know. Yeah, we ain't eating that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, if we go fishing, Joe, we go fishing and we catch the cup, we gonna have to clean them. We throwing the fish back. Yeah, I see y' all throwing the fish.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, she must have called about 200. Look like in that bucket, boy. Me and Shannon. Me and Shannon were throwing them on the bank. Save yourself fishing. Save yourself. They were flopping trying to get back in that water. Grain was like, I know. Throwing them fish back. It shows what you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, ain't nobody tried to clean all the day.

[Joe Johnson]

I promised God. When I left Georgia not cleaning another one. I'm not cleaning another one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did we get together with our cousins and we came up with this bright idea that the little fish, we gonna bite the head off and throw it back in the water.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all gotta understand, it's entertainment, man. It was entertained. It was entertainment. But whatever you need to do to entertain yourself, we did it.

[Joe Odom]

Hey, hold on. So you bit the head of the

[Joe Johnson]

fish off and threw it back in the water? Yeah.

[Joe Odom]

Okay.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay. Damn.

[Joe Odom]

That's how it all started, huh? Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's the only fish I had him about. Don't just. Yeah, you go, Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

See, I know where you're going.

[Joe Odom]

Hey, listen, I'm keeping pg. I mean, we. We got. We got. We got.

[Joe Johnson]

We got OG on no These came out of the water. Yeah, these, hell, you had them on the end of a hook, so. Nah, I. I see where you're going, but. No, we ain't going there. Yeah, but now, man, hey, man, thanks

[Shannon Sharpe]

for stopping by, giving us a few

[Joe Johnson]

minutes of time, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You good. You good though. You need anything?

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, you know, you know, I'm retired, man. Old pole hustler. You some.

[Draymond Green]

You know.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe, I. I see. You know, I see the show Nightcap doing good. I was like, well, I think the show doing good. And then they were like, yeah, I. So Joe gonna be joining us. I was like, I. I saw Joe joining the show forever, man, you know, and then I'm looking around his neck and I see jewels around his neck, Joe. You know, I see them. I. I see. You see. Hey, Joe, this is what we used to have is right here. We used to just.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

that got stolen when they broke in my house.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what we used to have, Joe. But. But as you can see, you know, nightcap club shade, doing real well, so. Oh, yeah, you know, I don't want to get rid of my 84 because this is the only. You know, I've had this since I just. The first thing I bought when I got drafted and. But. But I. I like what bro got around his neck. I don't want the chain. I just want what it costs. But the chain cost. I take the money, you know, and do what I want to do with it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He come a long way from the farm, man. That man got petites on aps.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe, Joe, he got. He got really good memory, but that joke ain't been back near the farm in about 400 years. I think. We were all slaves

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

last time I've been home.

[Joe Johnson]

Did you come back after granny funeral?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Probably 20, 2013, 2014. When Kiara graduated. I stopped by.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yep. Yep.

[Joe Odom]

Hey, we gotta. We gotta get out. We gotta get out there, man. We gotta go, you know, we gotta go hunting now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm not going here.

[Joe Johnson]

What I will do, I'll hunt for my golf ball. If I do get it out of the fairway. But that's about as much hunting as I do. I ain't looking for nothing that day. Anything out there, living in the wild. You good with me. You are good with me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Get some sleep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know it's there, the big time difference, man. Get some sleep.

[Joe Johnson]

Always. Fellas, I appreciate y' all having me pleasure. All right, man. Y' all be good, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Have a good one.

[Joe Johnson]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Joe Johnson]

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