Nightcap Hour 3: Dillon Brooks MAKES LeBron PREDICTION + Victor Oladipo EMOTIONAL After NBA Workout + Play OR Fade + Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on FACE of NBA

Summary

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Nightcap Hour 3: Dillon Brooks MAKES LeBron PREDICTION + Victor Oladipo EMOTIONAL After NBA Workout + Play OR Fade + Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on FACE of NBA

Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson | Guest: Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)

Date: July 16, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of Nightcap is a lively, unfiltered roundup of top sports headlines and cultural moments, featuring NBA and WNBA debates, heartfelt athlete stories, playful wagers, and Q&A with fans. Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”), Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, and ISO Joe Johnson blend sharp sport analysis with personal stories, banter, and signature humor.

Key Themes:

• LeBron James’ potential next move—with Dillon Brooks stirring the rumor mill
• Victor Oladipo’s emotional NBA comeback bid
• Predicting NBA Summer League outcomes (“Play or Fade”)
• Kareem Abdul-Jabbar’s take on Caitlin Clark as the face of the WNBA
• Advice and laughs from the crew in response to fan questions

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Dillon Brooks Predicts LeBron’s Move

• (02:40-05:16):
  • Dillon Brooks is back in the news, predicting where LeBron James will play next year.
  • Shannon Sharpe: “LeBron James’ favorite villain Dillon Brooks just made his prediction on where the King is heading next year. Check this out, guys. This is me saying, LeBron, come back...” (02:40)
  • Ochocinco: “He might be getting ready to go to Golden State, bruh. I mean, it’s the opportunity of a lifetime, Uncle Ocho, for sure.” (03:10)
  • Debate: Will LeBron join the Warriors for a championship chase, or is an easier path in the East?
  • ISO Joe: “The easiest route to another title is in the East. It ain’t the West.” (04:57)
• The crew discusses if LeBron really wants a challenge at age 42, or if he’s championship hunting.

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2. Victor Oladipo’s Emotional NBA Workout

• (05:49-08:44):
  • Coverage of Victor Oladipo’s tearful Las Vegas workout as a free agent.
  • Oladipo’s heartfelt message on social: “I’m a free agent. I don’t have an agent right now. ...I’d rather show you I’m ready than to spend my time trying to explain why or flood you with analytics to prove it.” (05:50)
  • The crew admires his resilience after injury and free agency grind.
  • Ochocinco: “The love and passion, desire for the game, Uncle O, it never dies, bro.” (06:36)
  • Discussion on the difficulty of overcoming a patella tendon injury and returning as an older athlete.
  • Sharpe: “You done weakens one side so much, something pop up on the other side.” (08:31)

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3. NBA Play or Fade: Summer League Picks

• (08:59-12:33):
  • Quick takes on player overs/unders for points/rebounds/assists.
  • Ochocinco and Joe Johnson speak on the potential of young prospects and the physical grind of coming back from injury.
  • Highlights:
    • Eddie Mara (under 20.5 PRA)
    • Caleb Wilson (over 21.5 points—“He’s averaging probably about 27 in summer league right now.”)
    • Lindenberg (over 14.5 points)
    • Cameron Boozer (debate on over/under 7 rebounds: “He better than his dad now. I ain’t gonna lie. The boy can play.”)
• Reflective, fast banter, showing the trio’s basketball IQ and love of talent evaluation.

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4. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on Caitlin Clark’s “Face of WNBA” Status

• (12:33-18:34):
  • Sharpe reads Kareem’s statement: "Calling Caitlin Clark the face of the league is disrespectful to the past WNBA players who paved the way for her... it’s an insult to an awful lot of great players." (12:33)
  • Debate: What does it really mean to be the face of a league? How does media exposure change today’s stars versus pioneers like Swoopes, Cooper, Parker?
  • Sharpe: “Nobody’s been hyped like Caitlin Clark and rightfully so… But you can’t say she wasn’t entertaining.” (16:33)
  • Reflection on WNBA progress, young stars, and how coverage accelerates stardom: “The league is in good hands. The league has never been stronger.” (17:00)

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5. Mailbag / Q&A Highlights

• Retirement and Life Transitions
  • (22:44-26:13):
    • Callers ask what life focus changed after hanging up the jersey.
    • ISO Joe: “One thing I was focused on is kids. Kids and family…the kids maybe got maybe two months out of a year, huh? If that.” (23:31)
    • Sharpe: “I go all effing in…that’s why I have a level of success I have.” (24:38)
    • Ochocinco: “For me…my health and yoga, bro…just focusing on that.” (25:05)
• Fan Birthdays & Shoutouts:
  • Tristan’s 24th (32:12), Donovan’s 26th, Jamil’s birthday plus wife Sade & daughters Skyler and Sahara (47:17)
  • The crew warmly connects with listeners and dishes out jokes and encouragement.
• Relationship/Marriage Advice:
  • “Finding the right woman is the hard part. Everybody gonna have flaws, bro. You got to figure out which flaws you can live with.” —Ochocinco (52:29)
  • Sharpe: “Everybody keeps telling you they’re looking for the right person. … How many times have you heard someone say, I’m trying to be the right person?” (55:13)

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6. Other Notable Segments & Quotes

• Cultural Sports Moments:
  • Lamine Yamal & Messi’s “full circle” World Cup photo (43:19):
    “Life is full circle, man. It’s a full circle moment.” —ISO Joe (43:57)
• Car & Birthday Memories:
  • “I bought myself a Rolls Royce. A black Phantom.” —Chad (48:21)
  • Joe: “My favorite one was probably that international truck…like, damn near like a semi, Joe.” (49:10)
• WNBA Nostalgia:
  • “She (Swoopes) flat out. Hey, man, you gotta go back, go back to YouTube and look at Cheryl Swoops in college…she put that a mean demonstration...” —Sharpe (18:09-19:11)
• Giannis vs. LeBron Debate (59:04):
  “I think LeBron’s turnaround fade away is a better shot than what Giannis has. … LeBron James has more things he can do than what Giannis can do.” —Sharpe (60:31)
• Locker Room & Travel Life:
  • Lighthearted back-and-forth about “permission slips” for trips, keeping relationships healthy, and team loyalty.
    “You ain’t gonna sit right here and just watch video games…you eat like that, you gonna go pay. … Only thing I ever want to do is play football.” —Sharpe (24:03)

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Memorable Quotes

• “If it can be done, hell, it can be done by the king. I know I can get it done.” —Chad Johnson on LeBron chasing a championship at 42 (05:16)
• “Lessons get learned, hopefully. And then we move on and we become better. We grow from it.” —Shannon Sharpe (41:21)
• “They say it either bust pipes or make diamonds, homie.” —Ochocinco on pressure and yoga (25:49)
• “I read a quote…Everybody keeps telling you they’re looking for the right person. … How many times have you heard someone say, ‘I’m trying to be the right person’?” —Shannon Sharpe (55:13)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• LeBron/Golden State prediction: 02:40–05:16
• Victor Oladipo comeback: 05:49–08:44
• Play or Fade (NBA picks): 08:59–12:33
• Kareem on Caitlin Clark: 12:33–18:34
• Retirement/family focus: 22:44–26:13
• Fan birthdays/shout outs: 32:12 / 47:17 / 65:01 / 68:14
• Relationship advice: 52:11–55:40
• Lamine Yamal & Messi “full circle”: 43:19–45:03
• Giannis vs LeBron closer debate: 59:04–60:43
• Mailbag, car/birthday memories: 47:17–50:25

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Tone & Style

• Unfiltered, friendly banter: Lots of friendly teasing and candid opinions.
• Insightful: Deep sports knowledge from decades as pro athletes.
• Personal: Touching on life after sports, sacrifice, family, wellness, and lessons learned.
• Inclusive: Welcoming fan interactions, personalized Q&A.
• Playful: Running gags (“permission slips,” “chat,” “hip thrusting”), family and relationship jokes, and debate.

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Summary

This episode captures Nightcap at its best—tackling the week’s hottest sports stories and deeper truths about passion, perseverance, fame, and personal growth. With the seasoned voices of Sharpe, Ochocinco, and ISO Joe, listeners get front row seats to the intersection of legacy, locker room culture, and the ever-changing landscape of sports stardom.

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Transcript

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

LeBron James favorite villain Dylan Brooks just made his prediction on where the King is heading next year. Check this out, guys. This is me saying, lebron, come back

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

for one more year. You know what I'm saying? Come back for one more year, man. You know what I'm saying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Stop all this waiting. You are the biggest LeBron. So I gotta. Where do you think he's going? What do you think he's gonna play it? I think Golden State. They go to State. I think Golden State.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It should be good.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, man, I know y'. All. Y' all hear the rumblings. Y' all see what's going on. He might. He might be getting ready to go to Golden State, bruh. I mean, it's the opportunity of a lifetime, Uncle Ocho, for sure.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

What's the opportunity of a lifetime?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hell, me getting a chance to play with the best shooter to ever play the damn game.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, they could do that. They could do that in the off season.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, no, no. But we win a title, we go out as champions together. After all the battles and wars we done been through. What you put that Lil Beige. You put that Lil Beige joke over here with, bro. Oh, man, please.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Who they gonna. Who they. Who they gonna be out the west to even get to a title?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What you mean, who they gonna be? They.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

They.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

They got the chance. They got the potential to beat any of them teams.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Oh, they got a chance to beat the spurs seven games.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

They got that potentially. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

They got the potential to beat the Thunder seven game series, potentially.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, matchups. A a. Matchups play a big part. Maybe they'll. Maybe they don't have to face them.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, all right.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Maybe somebody else knock him off. Hell, hey, a lot of people ain't think, including me, didn't think the Knicks was gonna beat the spurs, huh?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I'm the one told you they was. What you talking about?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, man, you closing your eyes. Shot in the damn dark.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

You ain't okay. Shot in the dark. I was. I've been. I've been right all basketball season. You think everything is a shot in the dog. It's more common sense than it is, though, Joe. You think. You think about your heart, Joe?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, I'm not. I'm thinking. I'm thinking if I'm Braun. If I'm thinking. I'm thinking about winning another title. They can say what they want, but that man want to win him another championship, bro.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I Could have told you that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

But what I'm saying is it ain't gonna be there.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

It ain't gonna be in Golden State.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

The easiest route to another title is in the East. It ain't the West.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Well, maybe. Maybe he don't want the easy way out. Maybe he want a little challenge.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

No, you don't.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What do you mean?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Not. Not a year, 24, 23. You don't. Not a 42 year. 42 years old, you don't.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He said he the king. Hey, hey, if. If it can be done, hell, it can be done by the king. I know I can get it done.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

All right.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Joe. Well, Ocho also didn't tell you that he picked Minnesota over the spurs also.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Who did?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Johnson.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

No, I did.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, you did.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I don't remember that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You've been all over the damn place this postseason. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Nah, nah, nah, nah. I've been right. Y' all been wrong.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's all right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We'll let you have your fun. We'll let you have your moment. Victor Oladipo was seen in tears after his impressive workout in front of NBA scouts in Las Vegas. Oladipo played in NBA for the Miami Heat in 2023 after suffering a torn patella tendon in his left knee. Over Depot tweeted, I'm a free agent. I don't have an agent right now. Just me and my family. I know I have a lot left, and I genuinely love this game. I'd rather show you I'm ready than to spend my time trying to explain why or flood you with analytics to prove it. If you're about winning, value mentorship and think I could be a fit, you can reach me directly. I'm open to every opportunity right now. I just want to make sure I weigh each one carefully. I can't wait to share my story.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

That's dope. That's live.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, that's. What's up, man. Hey, it's good to see Oladipo back out there, bro. I seen him play over the. I think the past. This last season, he played in the preseason game. I forgot who he was playing with, but they played against a couple NBA teams. I can see he trying to get back out there, man. That. That. That love and passion, desire for the game. Uncle O. It never dies, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nope.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Especially when you feel like you got an opportunity or you let one get by. You know what I mean? Like, I get it, bro. Keep going. My dude. I understand.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Somebody gives him an opportunity to come to camp, and you can show what he can do and he can make a roster.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right. I think that's. That. That's another thing, too, you know, by him just wanting an opportunity, bro, just bring me the camp. Hell, if I don't make the team, I don't make the team. But if I'm. If I. If I look good and you think I can provide a service. Yeah. You know, give me an opportunity. I respect it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like, I ain't got no agent. I ain't getting nobody. 4%.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, call me.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right, Right. Because he probably. Hey, listen. Because he probably ain't got nobody working for him, meaning, like, an agent who out there, like, trying to pitch for him. So he like, damn, I gotta host these workouts. I gotta host these workouts and then just let them know what it is. Invite. Invite some teams to this workout. Let them see me move. Let them see how I'm working. Hey, I respect it, bro.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

That's dope.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause I was older. Depot.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He probably about early 30s. Uncle Ocho, I'm gonna say, what, 31, 32. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He probably somewhere in there, you know, probably ain't really played a whole lot of basketball the past, what, three to four years?

[Commercial Announcer]

Nope.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hell, it's probably been longer than that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Having those injuries like that, Ocho Joe.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

At a young age.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's hard to overcome them.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

It's hard to bounce back, bro, because guess what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You done weakens one side so much, something pop up on the other side.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Because you're compensating.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, yeah, man, look at that patella tender. Joe. You can speak to that, but that's a hard injury to overcome.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's why you got 34. You guess why you got to take it. Damn. That's why you got to take your time, bro. You know, with injuries like that, you got to take your time. And they may take a little longer than anticipated, but it's worth the wait. Trust me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hold on. Who is this?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Any at the Dallas Mavericks?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, he would.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Where they play the Mavericks?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Nah, he would. He went okc.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he played. He played. They played the Mavericks.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He. I ain't gonna even lie to you. But, hey, hold on. I seen my boy Trevor Brazil from the Razorback. He gave that man, like, 30 something. You hear me? In preseason the other day. I ain't. It's points, rebounds, and assists.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm going under.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You going under?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I don't think Kayla playing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Caleb who?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Caleb Wilson.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Caleb Wilson? Yeah, he up there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see right there, 21 and a half points.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I'm saying he played a back. He just played a back to back game. Oh, if he playing now, he gonna get. He gonna get. He gonna get it. He youngster, 21 and a half. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He averaging probably about 27 in summer league right now.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, but hey, he don't need to. They need to just sit him down now.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You know what it is, Ojo?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

What?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He got hurt during the college season last year, so he never even got a real chance to. I mean, he showed what he can do, but he didn't never reach the full potential what he. You know what he could have done? So imagine he break his wrist. So now when he did get back, get back active and get a chance to work on his game, he said he shoot like 2,000, 2,500 shots a day, bro. He just happy to be back in the gym. He just loved playing.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, yeah, I got you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So we go. Okay. Wilson, over.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Lindenberg. Fourteen and a half points.

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Over.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Under.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I'm gonna say over. He. He looked like he can. He getting comfortable.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, that's young boy from Michigan, huh?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he nice. He could play.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. How old is he? Probably about 24,5. Yeah, yeah, he gonna fit in good with. With them boys down at Golden State.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cameron Boozer, more than seven rebounds.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He can play okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Grown man ass body that. He already that joker. 19 and 250. He bigger than his dad.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He better than his dad was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, a booze.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You know, you know, booze. My class, bro. That's my high school class. Oh, is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He better than his dad now. I ain't gonna lie. The boy can play.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he can play.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He just ain't no. He just ain't no high rebounder, you know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, nah, nah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Like, he. He got a great IQ for the game. He can shoot the ball. Hell, he can score the ball. Good post up player, but he ain't gonna grab no damn 15 rebound. I don't know, man. I'm in limbo about it. Let's let Ocho get Ojo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you think he gonna get over under seven rebounds?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I'm going. I'm going under. I'm going.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, we going under. Cameron Boozer, everything. 25 to win. 150. Download the app today. Use code SHANNON to get 50 in lineups after you play your first five dollar lineup prize fix. That's cold, Shannon. Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Calling Caitlin Clark the face of the league is disrespectful to the past WNBA players who paved the way for her. Clark is very good, possibly even great player. But calling her one of the faces of the league, absent of sort of counter cross platform dominance of a Michael Jordan or LeBron James is an insult to an awful lot of great players.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I'm confused. He said the face of the league would be currently the players that are playing right now, Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that's what I thought.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, Uncle Joe confused me and maybe y' all correct me if I'm wrong. I've been watching, you know, a little basketball getting, you know, get into it. Is Caitlin Clark not the face of the league right now or is it Agent Wilson?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, the way these young girls coming, they coming Paige Beckers and Olivia Miles, they like we want to be the face of the league.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

They changing the game, bro. Olivia Miles is. Oh my God.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Well, that's the one from Notre Dame.

[Guest/Caller]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

She started at Notre Dame, she ended up from tcu.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, she's nice with it, but that's her.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, she played like a, like, like a young fella, boy.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Oh, she got, she got wiggle to herself. Yeah, she got Wiggle. Hey, look. Yes and no, because I get he's. Because I, I know he says okay, but calling her one of the face of the league, absent of some sort of own court and cross platform dominance of a Michael Jordan or LeBron James. But when they call, you do realize like Michael hadn't won anything when he was the face of the league. He took that, he basically took that title from Bird. And even when Bird and Magic was winning titles, they were still talking about Jordan.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And Bird, imagine was winning the title in the 80s. They won all but two. Philly won one, Detroit won one, the other eight titles, Lakers won five, Celtics won three. It's not uncommon for people to feel that they put in time, more time, more effort into a league and then someone comes along and then they happen to be the face of the league. Yeah, I'm sure it happened. I'm sure when that was bestowed on when, when Jordan, when, when Jordan took that mantle from Bird and Magic and then I don't know, you say Kobe or AI, whomever it was the guys that have, that have been 10 year events like hold on, how he get to be. How they just bypass jump over people yeah. And if you think about it, I'm not so sure that we've ever. Maybe, maybe, I mean, Candace Parker, but we didn't. The league wasn't covered like it is now. It wasn't covered like that back then because it wasn't like Candace Parker was a slouch. Candace Parker was a hell of a player. So was Swoops, so was Cooper. They had great plans back then, but it wasn't covered like it is now. Yeah, every game wasn't on TV like it is now.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It wasn't hype. They didn't have segments on ESPN like they do now. There were no podcasts that were talking about the WNBA like they are now. So it's a different time. So the, the method in which someone becomes great or is considered great, the trajectory is going to happen a lot quicker because they got this thing called promotion. They got that engine behind you.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah,

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nobody and let's be real and you can say what you want to say, but nobody's been hyped like Caitlin Clark and rightfully so. She was phenomenal in college those last two years was as good as anybody. She didn't win anything. But you can't say she wasn't entertaining.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

To get that Iowa team to back to back national championships. How the hell she do that?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh no, she can play now. She can go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How'd she do that. Normally? And, and they ended up what they beat. I think they beat one year. They beat South Carolina the previous year knocked them out. South Carolina come back next year, win the national championship. I just. The league is in, is in good hands. The league has never been stronger. The WNBA has never been stronger than what it is right now with these young players. But you gotta realize, guys like when the WNBA first started, a lot of his best players were old. Cynthia Cooper's old.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, she could play.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She got an opportunity. She came right out of usc. And a lot of these girls coming right out of college that would. That ain't how it happened. So it had been interesting to see coop get a 1012 year career of this thing, but that didn't happen. Cheryl Miller get a 1012 year career at this thing.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Man, they had a will. What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who you talking about? Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When they had Swoops and Tina Thompson and Coop. Yeah, they had a squad. They had a squad. They had a squad.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Them girls. Nice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's why they won four straight. Ain't nobody doing that again.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I'm talking about Coop and Swoops. They couldn't be stopped, bro. And Tina Thompson just doing the dirty work. Oh, man, they. They had a complete team. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And Sharon Swoop could shoot the ball and she could play defense. Cool. Can shoot the ball, could get downhill.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I think Swoop was the first. Was she the first female to have a signature shoe?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

With Nike.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, she could flat out. Hey, man, you gotta go back. Go back to YouTube and look at Cheryl Swoops in college and what? And that. Boy, she put that a mean demonstration in the national championship game against Ohio State and Katie Smith. Yeah, y' all go check. Go check that performance out. She put down a mean demonstration, Joe. But I was wanting to get. I think she. I think she scored 48.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn, she was letting that thing go. No, she was. She was. For real. For real.

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[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

t mobile.com all right guys, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q. We have four video voicemails. Let's take a listen to the first one.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What's going on?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Unk Ocho ISO.

[Guest/Caller]

We are on the set of the

[Shannon Sharpe]

New London, Connecticut submarine based Navy podcast. So I got your boy got a little podcast experience. Hint, hint. So I'm approximately 1,000 days away from retiring from the Navy, not wearing this uniform anymore. So my question to you as the fourth member of the Nightcap crew, When

[Guest/Caller]

you guys hung up your uniforms and decided you weren't wearing that jersey anymore,

[Shannon Sharpe]

what's one thing that you were gonna focus on that you did not have time to focus on during the season?

[Guest/Caller]

And last but not least, ISO, give

[Shannon Sharpe]

me a holla, send me a zelle,

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

send me a cash app.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Owe your Little MoneyOn from 2011. You don't know I owe it to you. But I definitely owe it to you.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Take care.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hung that jersey up. One thing I was focused on is kids. Kids and family. The one thing that I didn't get opportunity to spend a lot of time with, obviously, when I was playing, was always locked in. I think the kids maybe got maybe two months out of a year, huh? Yeah, if that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Six weeks. Yeah, six weeks. They came for the summer.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Them kids. Them kids. Focus on them kids, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was f. They was gonna stay around the house and play them video games. Y' all going to summer camp.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hello. Gotta do something, huh? Yeah.

[Guest/Caller]

Hell, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't gonna sit right here.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And just watch video games and, daddy, we hungry. Go to Houston's and go to this place where they had all kind of toppings on burgers, and we going. They get egg on. My son getting bacon. He getting egg on his burger. He getting all the pineapples. Nah, bro, you eat like that, you gonna go pay. I would bring my cousin up. He go to camp, too. So I put him in camp. The only thing I've ever want to do is play sport, play football.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, I. I don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't do a great job of compartmentalizing, guys. I really don't. I ain't going to hold nobody and tell them. I. Oh, yeah, just. No, I go all effing in. That's why I. I guess that's why, you know, other than God blessing me, is that. That's why I have a level of success that I have because I go all in. Ain't no half step, but I'm.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I'm all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm all in. I'm knee deep.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, for me, just focusing on. Really, fellas, My health and yoga, bro. Like I tell y', all, I feel like I have to be in that hot room to some degree, considering my family history, Meaning my dad. His dad never had his. My granddad, I don't ever remember him having legs. My pops losing both of his legs. So after a while.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Diabetic, huh?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Yeah. But after a while, you know, I started thinking, like, damn, you know, this would be one way I can help heal myself. And I just. I dove deep into that. Uncle Ocho. That's all I've been doing, bro, since I've been done Hoover, I got going there, put myself under that pressure. Yeah. I mean.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

They say it either bus pipes and make diamonds, homie. Hey, that's been it, yo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Back in the day, Joe, you could. Hey, that Pilates, man.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That Pilates.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The yoga, Joe, you couldn't see me, Joe.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, I'm telling you. Look, I love.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I used Joe. I could do a split. Oh, you couldn't do no split. I could do a split, Joe.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay. I couldn't do. I couldn't do no split, but I could do far more than a guy my size could ever even think about damn doing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Imagine somebody. 240 Joe, with this muscle mass doing a split.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, you had hell on your hand, now. I'll just tell you that now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, that mega reform. I'm doing all that thing you see. I'm doing the one leg out and. And the swooping down. Yeah, all that, Joe the barrel. I mean, what you need to tell you more? Yeah, I do all that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey, you talking about if you want to get ripped up, Chad, y' all hear me out. I. Hey, I ain't gonna tell no lie to you because it sound fly to you, man. That Pilates will rip you up if you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

If you eat right and do right and come take. All right, uncle, you better tell them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See, I need. See, I need weight, Joe. That.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That kind of.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That what Pilates. Do it. Elongate the muscles. I need the power. I need the.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, you. You, you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what I'm saying? You know?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, I. I know you listen for a different type of strength, you. You trying to walk around the room. I'm just saying. I'm saying.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, hey. Every time. He gonna take it left field. Every time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know it. I know

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I can't get my point across. Why? You know what I'm saying? Hey, but. But listen, at the end of the day, it don't make you no bad brother, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like, I get it. That's what Ocho and I've been trying to tell you. We're not gonna look at you in a different. It's still gonna be Ocho and ISO.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Even though that's your behavior. We've accepted it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We've accepted it, though, Joe. I mean, come on, man.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, I get it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

But I get what you're saying. I know what you're trying to live for, but I'm talking to the chat. Chat. Y' all want to be super lean cut up. Y' all want them. Y' all want them knots in your stomach. I'm telling you.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, I got. I got them, Joe.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah, I know. Uncle over there, hip thrusting and all that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He see.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay, okay, all right, I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. See what I'm saying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all see hold up time.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I know you and you. You and Ocho ain't got no hip thrusting in. Y' all workout. Y' all don't hip thrust.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, bro, the glute.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

The glute need to be strong, bro. That's a big muscle, Uncle Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I do squats. I do. I do split. I do Bulgarian split squats. I'll do regular squats. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey, them Bulgarian split squads. Oh, they mean, ain't it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, they are.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You got to have your damn mind right, boy, when you get into them

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bulgarian, especially, because a lot. Most of the time. Well, I don't do them like that anymore, but I used to do them, you know, without the Smith machine. So you had to, you know, you had to stay. Because I like doing free weights. Yeah, because free weights brings all the auxiliary muscles as opposed to, like, when you do machines. Machines were really built for rehab, right. Because it takes all. It takes all the stabilizers out of it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because a part. A part of being able to lift weight is being able to control it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's hard to lift a weight that you can't control. So that means all the, you know, when you benching. And so it brings all the front delt and. And the scapula and all those muscles around there. The. The lat, you got to, you know, squeeze the lats, you know, you got to squeeze, you know, the chain muscles in the backs. Your records. But, yeah, that's back in the day, you know. You know, back then, I was. You know, I was.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hell, I was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell, yeah, I tried, but I was ill.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I try to stay in some good shape. Okay, Ocho? You know what I mean? I try to keep keeping body right. Keep me tight, you know what I mean?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, whatever you need to do.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What y' all talking about?

[Shannon Sharpe]

We figured as much.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What you mean? What y' all talking about?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not what we talking about. What you've been. What you've been alluding to for the last five minutes.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, man. Come on.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, makes make sure you're on point, Joe, because I'm coming.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Jordan, did you get this side?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you get this?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Not tonight. Not tonight. Look, look, look, look, look. My lady. Look, my lady came in that day. She said, what's this? All my. All my friends keep sending me talking about some permission slip. I said, don't worry about it, baby.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, worry about it. Yeah, worry about it. Is it okay? Is it okay if Joe come to New York it's been. It's been 40, 48 hours with the crew.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, y' all gotta relax, man. What's on that itinerary? What's up? What we got going?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you don't get the permission ship, the permission slip sign, you ain't got nothing going.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nope. Hey, I like to stay. I like to stay on. I like to stand people good graces. That's what Ocho and I do. We stay in people good graces and we don't bother nobody.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

And now y' all gotta relax. Y' all gotta relay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all gotta tell you what, have somebody forward your signature to you. How about that? That's what we used to do. You get bad grade. You ain't want your grandma. You got that?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, you got that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You want your grandma?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey, you got that behavior document you like? Damn, I can't. I don't want my mama or my grandma to sign it. Yeah, you get somebody to sign it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My sister side. I could tell granny on you.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey, she probably hold that over your head, too. Would you, man?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What she held on my head? What, worse than what I could hold over her? So she signed that bag in a hurry? Mary Porter. My sister always signed all the stuff. I mean, there was not a document that it came in the house that my sister didn't sign. My sister been signing my grandfather's stuff since. She's probably about 10 or 11 years old. All right, let's take a listen to the second one.

[Guest/Caller]

Yo, what's up, Nightcap family? Unc, Ocho and Steve. Yo, man, I'm turning 24 years young today. I was just wondering if I could get the birthday shout out.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

My name is Tristan.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm currently having a bad birthday because my city's flooding.

[Guest/Caller]

It's been raining all damn day. But, you know, this weekend, you know,

[Shannon Sharpe]

we're gonna get on that road in

[Guest/Caller]

the Chez Balla Portier.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Have me a good little weekend.

[Guest/Caller]

Hey, my one birthday wish from y', all, Please have Joe for football for

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

you to swing about our Cowboys, man.

[Guest/Caller]

How about. Am I. So

[Shannon Sharpe]

Houston. Is it flooding in Houston? Where are they flooding at?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, I'm not sure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, San Antonio. Okay.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Happy 24th birthday. Sorry to hear about the. Obviously, you know, the. The flooding and anybody that's being impacted or family member or friends or loved one being impacted by the flood that's in San Antonio and Austin. We have our thoughts and prayers going out to you and all those that's being impacted by that. But Tristan, happy 24th birthday. Yes. Joe is now a full time member of Nightcap. He'll be here doing football season. He's gonna hate that he did that because the Cowboys gonna be some. Some sloth. Hey, I know that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Don't worry about it. I got him twin. I'm gonna have ass in line boy, when football season comes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. You see how you talking?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I can see. I can see it now. My Cowboys doing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They think I can see it now, too.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, I hear loud and clear. I hear loud and clear.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Your day coming. Your day coming quick. Yeah, let's take a listen to the third one.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

What's up, Unc? Ocho and Joe. My question is for Shannon. I see you wear graphic tees all the time. I wear graphic tees a lot, too. My question is, do your graphic tees like. Are all those franchises that you actually like, or do you just like them for the look of them in general?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Girl,

[Shannon Sharpe]

basically. Look, I mean, a lot of the stuff, like when I get like Fat Albert and stuff, a lot of them, like 70, like, 70 sitcoms.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Harlem Nights movies. A lot of it just has to do with stuff that I like. Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, when it comes to comics, you ain't really got but two. You got DC or Marvel, so. But no, it's just mainly what I like, kind of.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What. I could take you back when I'm old.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

The sandlot and all that.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, I like being nostalgic.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look at. Oh, Joe, look at it about your. Look at it about your.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I ain't even say, man. Listen. What's up, man? What's up? We good.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

We good, Joe.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay. All right.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you. Hey, if you show up, you can't go with Ocho. I'm just saying.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When we go to Houston, make sure you brag that you go on the field trip. If you didn't break, if you didn't bring your permission, They left your ass in school.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah. My grandma.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My grandma said she was gonna sign it. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You didn't forgot all about that when you got home.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

And none you could say. You know, you could cry all you wanted. That thing isn't signed.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Your ass ain't going.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

It ain't happening.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, let's take a listen to our last one.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Ocho and still channel of the world. I sold you so a few things. First off, y' all gotta stop letting Ocho say he know everything. He had us all hyped up about. The USA Soccer team. He was leading that bandwagon. I almost bet money. Cause Ultra like they old.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We gonna whoop them.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

We don't need. We don't need our guy. We gotta have blown the hell out. Okay, two. I told y' all a couple weeks ago that these owners, These owners and players gonna start talking about their second apron. I think the small market teams overdid it with these aprons. And now it's affecting everyone in the league. I knew something was going to come with that. If I draft five Koi Bryants, I'd be able to keep all five of my Kobe Bryants. All right, y' all have a good one.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, he ain't tell no lie. Cause he had me over here. Holland, Bella, Gun and Tillman and I.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Man, hold on, Joe. You watched him too. Now, shoot, you were hollering the same thing.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Cause we look good the first three games.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

All right, but we.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You had done sold me. You had done sold me already. I was on the wagon with you. Hold on.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I sold you or they sold you?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You sold me? You sold me. Oh, man.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Listen, I had never seen him look like that. Joe. I was right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You was right.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What you mean you was right?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Until. Until we came into that jugging out of Belgium.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, Ocho, I saw him look like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The way they played against Belgium. I've seen them look like that on several occasions.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

And if we would have got by Belgium, hell. What? Spain? Well, look at Spain. Hey, man, they'd have knocked the noodles out of our head.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they better be there. Six nothing.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

We might. Hey, listen, it's who plays the best on that day. So who's to say we might have beat Spain?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you didn't beat Belgium to get an opportunity to play Spain, so we'll never do right. My top tier play says, hey, guys, love the pod. I mean, my Amazon Health AI presents painful thoughts. I. I can't stop scratching my downtown.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Mm.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, but I'm not itching to go

[Shannon Sharpe]

downtown and tell a receptionist I'm here to talk about my downtown. Some things you'd rather type than say out loud.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

There's no question too embarrassing for Amazon Health AI.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Commercial Announcer]

Awkward time to ask this, but. Hey, did you download the trail map?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, no, I don't need to.

[Guest/Caller]

I don't understand.

[Commercial Announcer]

You're trusting your signal out here.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I'm trusting T Mobile.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They have the best network.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

And if we end up in bumtots

[Shannon Sharpe]

nowhere, well, we've got T Satellite for backup.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Whoa.

[Commercial Announcer]

I don't trust my carrier that much.

[Commercial Voice]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm Glynn Washington, host of Snap Judgment from kqed. Every week Snap drops you inside someone's biggest decision. The kind of decision you can only make once with everything on the line. What do you believe? What do you want and what would you risk to get it?

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Find out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Snap Judgment New episodes every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Early twenties worrying I won't reach my goals. Battling self doubt after mistake that hurt loved ones. How do I stop overthinking and handle criticism better Bro, that's already done. Worrying about something that's already done doesn't change anything.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All you can do is try not to make the same mistake that you made that caused your family and. Or to hurt your loved ones and family. That's what. That's all you can do. That's a part. That's a part of life. Yeah. We go through things, we make mistakes. Lessons get learned, hopefully. And then we move on and we become better. We grow from it. After mistakes. So that means you made more than one. And most people do it. The likelihood of somebody making just one mistake.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

No, no.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That. That didn't happen. No. But you just gonna have. And stop overthinking it because you can't change anything. Worry about the things that you can. That you. That you could control. What can you control? Your behavior. The things that you do, but you've already done that. You can't control what you've already done.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But we got to grow. Change is inevitable. Growth, it's. Choose wisely, you choose. I mean, you got two choices. You can change. Change is going to happen regardless. Next day. I mean, Monday goes to Tuesday, Tuesday goes to Wednesday. You get the fall, you get, you know, you get winter, you get spring, it's back to summer. Change happens.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Growth is optional. You want to grow from it. Do you want to learn from it? You want to become a better person or. The things that have happened in your past so you don't repeat that, that's on you, bro. But you can do it. But beating yourself up about it. Criticism is going to happen. That's a part of it. Everybody's gotten criticized at one point in time. Sometimes the criticism might have been harsher than others, but it happens. Yeah, but you. All right, guess what? You woke up today. You had an opportunity to be the better person today than you were yesterday. I only worry about tomorrow because I ain't promised. God did not promise Shannon Sharpe tomorrow. So I ain't worried about it. Messi took a picture with a baby 20 years ago for charity. Twenty years later, he'll be facing that baby. Lamar. Lamar. Jamal in his last World cup while Jamal is in his first. And Nolan could not write a better script.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah. And it's so funny, Uncle Joe. I'm not sure if you've seen the picture. It's a picture of Lamina Mall. He's. He's in the carriage. Very, very little.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

He had no idea. They won some type of contest. And when they won the contest, it was to be able to Get a picture with Messi.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

And there's a picture of Laminimo. And he had to be, I don't know, maybe some months, maybe.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

You know, and it's. Dude, it's a full circle thing. It's almost like. It's almost unbelievable.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

The hell. The 18 year old who took over from Messi at Barcelona is now getting ready to play Messi. Hey.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

It'll make no sense, but it could. Like, life is full circle, man. It's a full circle moment.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ever took a picture like that

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

with someone, Ocho, and then later on in life?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, not that young.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

No, not that young. I'm sorry. He was. He was a baby. Baby.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I think I took a picture. I took a picture with Christian McCaffrey.

[Guest/Caller]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You played with his dad?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I did.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn. I think he might have been three. Two and a half.

[Commercial Announcer]

Three.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. He had to be because how. Ash, how old is CMAC? Because that was. That was January of 99. So he had to be born in like 95, 96. He had to be like 3 or 4. He couldn't be much older than that. So that means he probably about 30. Is he 29 or 30? So he's born in 96. So he was.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What up, big three. You have the goat and his protege in the final. I think this final has the potential to be like the 2022 final. Vaminos Argentina.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, that, that France.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That France. Argentina in 22.

[Guest/Caller]

Ocho.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, that was amazing, Brian.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was amazing. And Messi was at the absolute best if we get something like that.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah. And you see, and they did it again, huh? The Argentina, France game.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, man.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Argentina was up 202 nil. And hey, honestly, Joe, I thought the game was over.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Wait, hold on. Yeah. Yeah. Argentina was up 2 0. And that damn Mbappe. I said it might have been maybe almost five, six minutes apart from each other. He got one and came right back and got another one. The game was tied. Oh, that. That was. That was amazing. That was amazing.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey. This is gonna be a good one.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Because Spain got it sharp on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

First things first. Dax, the soccer analyst Nick Wright brings on said that the bronze game does count towards the golden boot. So, hey, there's a chance Mbappe, who's going to be in the bronze medal match, has an opportunity to score a goal or two.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Well, that's right. I forgot about the bronze.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, wow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Huh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I forgot about. I forgot. I forgot they even, you know, he going for the.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He said he going for the Golden Bull.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he could. Yeah. I forgot all about the Goldman Mad. Like I said, I remember when the. The NCAA tournament, they used to have a.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

They have the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The. They used to have a consolation game, Joe. So the two teams that lost in the semifinals, they would actually play for third place. Yeah, but I forgot about that. So there's an outside chance. I'm sure Mbappe would say, you know what? Let me play in the. Let me play in the World Cup Final, and I'll let you have the Golden Boot.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Babe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's up? Oo ISO. My birthday was yesterday. Can I get a birthday shout out? Hi, I'm Jamal. Jamil, I got a question. What's the best memory you have or gift you got for your birthday? And can you shout out my wife, Sade. Kids, Skyler and Sahara. Much love. Okay. First to you, Jamil. Happy birthday.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Happy birthday.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Happy birthday.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We did something fun. I mean, you got a wife, you got a family, so hopefully you and the wife and the kids went out, you celebrated, got your nice sit down meal. You know, probably ribeye, nice and flavorful. Maybe cook the medium. Maybe medium. Plus, you don't really want it much more than that because you want that flavor to just. To just come oozing out. You know what I'm saying? Probably some mashed potatoes. You know, mashed potatoes, lobster, Mac and cheese. I don't know if you're allergic to have a shellfish allergy or anything like that, but hopefully you dated up today and realized that you're surrounded by family, friends and loved ones, and that's all you could really hope for. Joe, what's the best gift you got for your birthday? What's the best memory or gift you've gotten for a birthday?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

And I can remember, man, I got myself. I think I was about. I had to be about 26, 27. I got. I bought myself a Rolls Royce. A black Phantom.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

God dang dang.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah. I took care of myself now. Hey, hey, I wouldn't cheat with my damn self.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, that's what Barney Porter used to

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

tell us all the time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Say, son, be as cheap as you want to. Don't be cheap to yourself.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Big boy style. Yeah. Yeah, that's probably.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You still got it, Joe?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Nah. Hell no. This was in, what, 2007?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn, yo.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, about 20 years ago. Hell, Big Boy, what about y'?

[Shannon Sharpe]

All? Best memory or gift you got for your birthday?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, shoot, but my. My favorite one was probably that. That international truck on.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Joe, what international Truck.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I had a big international, like. Like, damn near like a semi, Joe.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

That big international, man, that was probably my favorite, man. Yeah, that was my favorite. That was my favorite. I got. I got rid of, man. It's one thing I don't. I don't understand why I get a car, man. Uncle Joe, I'd be over, man, so fast, man, I ain't even think. I had that thing a year, man. I sold it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's why you. Hey, hey. And that's why at some point, you'll eventually be like, man, damn, them cars, they look nice. But because after a while, when you get it, no matter what you get. Ferrari, rose, lamb. Yeah, you're gonna be tired of it. Out the way. Like, damn.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, like, I. I got. I had. I had. I had two Lambos, Joe. Yeah, I'm just. No, not at the same time. I'm just saying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, obviously, you.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I lease them, and then obviously, when the new one come out, I just traded and get the new one. Joey got to the point where the noise of the Lambo would irritate me. Got rid of, like. Like, certain noises. As I got older, it would be dumb stuff that just turned me off about, like, cars.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Turn me off.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What about you?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Would you. Better thing I got, you know, got a few things, you know, back in the day, you know. You know what? I got a Bible for your birthday. I got a Bible for my birthday.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Put it right on the back.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Put it.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

My bad, Joe.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Man, come on, man. Come on. Come on, man. Go.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, but he. He backsliding tonight.

[Guest/Caller]

There you go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How you made that up. Come on, man.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Come on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what I'm trying to think? Have I ever bought something for my birthday? I don't think I've ever really bought anything for my birthday. I don't remember. I don't. I don't think I've ever really bought anything for my birthday. I'm. I'm simple, man. I don't really, you know, take me

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

out to eat, you know, Say, old Po Hustle. Don't ask for too much. No, no, that's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it, Joe.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's it. That's it. Oh, poor hustler. He'll ask for much.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, but yeah, you know. You know, And Sade.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Skyler Sierra.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Daddy.

[Guest/Caller]

Love y'.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nightcap, fam. Don't want to be a player no more. How did y' all find the one? Don't need a woman with a job. Cause I got bread. I got hella options. Finding a woman is not. Is the easy part. Finding the right woman is the hard part.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

And everybody gonna have flaws, bro. You got to figure out which. Which flaws you can live with.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You. There you go.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Because you ain't gonna no perfect this. I don't know what type of picture you got in your damn head, but it ain't gonna happen.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Erase that picture.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Because it's not realistic. Not realistic. It's always gonna. It's always gonna be issues. Everybody got baggage. And then people say, oh, I'm watching out for red flags. Any someone you meet, somebody Uncle Joe. And them not having red flags is a red flag in itself because we all have baggage. We all have things that someone else is going to have to unpack. Now, some people have more baggage than others.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

But I mean, it's difficult. It's very difficult, you know, finding the right one. And you got to see whoever you're dealing with, especially you want to spend, I think long term. You got to be able to see them in their seasons. You got to be able to see them in every season when they got money, when they don't have money, when they happy, when they sad, when they ain't got no money. You got to see them in every season, every season. They tell you all you need to know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's tough, bro. It's really, really tough. Because you know what it is, guys? A therapist told me she'd say Shannon. Well, she said, Call me Mr. Sharp. Said, Mr. Sharp. You're never gonna find someone that has everything that you want. It has personality, sense of humor, work this nurturing, X, Y and Z. Just try to find someone that has enough of the qualities that you want. And the ones they don't, you can overlook them. So if you look for somebody, you want this person, she need to be 5, 9, she need to weigh 150, she need to have an advanced degree. She needs to be God fearing, she needs to be wanting to travel, she needs to be nurturing. She needs to have a job. She needs to be X. She gotta be. She got to be a porn star in the bedroom. She's the guy. You just. You're not gonna find all that. You're not. You're not. You're just not. What can you do? What can you live without? What can you live without?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah,

[Shannon Sharpe]

I read a quote about a month ago. Everybody keeps telling you they're looking to be. They're looking for the right person. How many times have you heard someone say, I'm trying to be the right Person.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hello,

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna go. I'll let you marry. Go and keep that one.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

That's a good one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, I like that everybody say, I'm looking for the right person. How many times are people saying, I'm the right person? Or I'm trying to be the right person, right?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

In fact, now I'm with you when you write.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Women. Hey, such and such that he picked the kids up from carpool, yo. He can do that because he got time to do it. Well, he does this. He cooked.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay,

[Shannon Sharpe]

but they probably don't go on vacation. You're not gonna find someone that has every characteristic you like. You just. Hopefully you find someone that has enough of what you like and the ones that they don't have is not a. It's a. Not a non starter or disqualifier. That's all I got for you, bro. Oh, Joe, is it okay to say message the goat man? It's okay.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, man. You know that, man. He got a preference, but he know who to go there. Come on, man. Come on, Joe. Keep it 100, man. Tell the truth and shame the devil. Come on, now. What about Messi being a goat, bro?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Is Michael Jordan the goat?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who, me?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I'm asking for me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Okay, cool. Well, there's your answer, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It ain't because. It ain't because, you know, he. I like his style of play. I just think LeBron James, based on what he's been able to do and because I don't just look at. Because if you can't see people make it a ring, and people's like, well, they're chasing rings because you guys made it all about the ring. So once you make it all about something, what are people gonna try to do, Ocho?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When people made it about the almighty dollar, what did people start doing? Chasing it.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Chasing it. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, listen, you have y' all go. I have mine.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's goaded.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Is he goaded?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Who?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Messy.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, he cool. He nice.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, man. Come on, man.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

He cool now.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He cool.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, he nice. He's nice with it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Any podcast or shows you guys want to be on, Would love to see Ocho on financial audit. Uncle mythical kitchens. Mythical kitchens. Last meal. ISO on hot ones for me. Hey, you know you like them hot. You like hot food, Joe?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hell, no.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

You know what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I want to be on the wings. Will tell you up, man.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, no, no. What'd you say, Ojo?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I want to be on Michelle Obama podcast without it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I'm sure she'd love to have you.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah. I want to be able to show another side of myself and that that would be the perfect show where I have to. I can't be anything like I am on Nightcap. Get to see a whole nother side.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Joe. I put on a suit and all, Joe.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I already know it, man. You a show up and show up what?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, you use. Use all kind of big words. They'd be like, man, who the he think he ti.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Who in the hell was this?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Mike, Chris, Tucker and Rush out, pick them out. Yeah, forget that. Get that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, I want you. I definitely want you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When it's Giannis, Unc said he can't close with no go to bad free throws. When LeBron supposedly he's a closer with no go to bad free throws. I think in game seven, did you see LeBron close out game seven against San Antonio? What about game six? 45, 15, 7. And then had another 37 point game close out against Boston, but he can't close. What about the 2711 triple double that he had against Golden State? Come back for three 1. May y' all stop this. Did y' all remember him in game six against what you call him? Guys, if you don't like LeBron, that's okay. That's okay. Y' all keep on talking about, you bring up LeBron, you bring up LeBron, but y' all put a scenario where you ask me about LeBron and then if I don't say anything about LeBron, the reason why. Okay, break up LeBron. Cause he know he had no leg to stand on, so he ain't even mentioned the man name. I think Giannis is fabulous. I don't think when it's all said and done, people are gonna say Giannis is a better player than LeBron James. I don't

[Commercial Announcer]

could

[Shannon Sharpe]

could, but that's okay. I think LeBron is a better free throw. I think LeBron's turnaround fade away is a better shot than what Giannis has.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's just me. You could disagree. That's my opinion. My opinion is LeBron James has more things he can do than what Giannis can do. That's just me.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, he gonna. Brian can operate more from that mid post area. He'll take a midi for game from right there. Giannis ain't really doing that, bro. He ain't shooting really no game winning shots. For real.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's up, Nightcap crew? Ocho, have you had a chance to connect with Chris Henry Jr. And give him some. Some wide receiver tips.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

No, no, I. I haven't, man. He's at Ohio State, man. He's that what. What most would consider wide receiver.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wide receiver. You.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, he don't need no tips from me.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

And he gonna be that boy. He gonna. I mean, obviously we know Jeremiah Smith gonna be that boy, but yeah, I'm

[Shannon Sharpe]

saying he gonna do.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He gonna do his one, two over there, Ohio State.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

He definitely gonna do his one, two. He gonna do his two, three, too.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, okay. Damn. He going to two, three.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, you know, it was three, four. My bad.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, okay.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Nice. He nice, Joe.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

All right.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

He's nice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see what you call, man take. No, he didn't take no. What you call him this year? Jeremiah, he passed it out to his team teammate so they can have some more players come in.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

And I am.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got Chris Henry, who's number one wide receiver, and then they got the number one wide receiver, 27, coming. Ocho.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hold on, hold on. You saying Jeremiah paying them dudes with his nil money?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He took a lot of his pro nil deal.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Damn. That's what's up, bro. Hey, that boy finna show up and show out, though. I know where he trying to go. These.

[Shannon Sharpe]

These best cops I can thank for cousins is they probably sheed and maybe Aldrich, who y' all got in a start bench cut? Who Boogie cousin Rasheed Wallace and Marcus Aldrich.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Damn. I'm going. I'm going. She. I'm starting she, bro.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, she was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She really the first stretch?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah, I'm starting She. She nice. I. You know, I. We need that emotional leader, a guy who you can go to. You can play through him off the block. He was nice. And then I'm gonna have to bench big cuz and I'm. I'm have to let La go. Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sorry. La, you gone. ISO, what are your thoughts on the World cup finals having a halftime show on Sunday? Yeah, they got just, I think Justin Bieber, Madonna. Who else is performing? Ocho?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Oh, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I have no idea. But obviously, World Cup.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Are you going to the game?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah. Ask me if I want to go.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

It's in Miami.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Nah, right?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, midlife.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That thing gonna be stupid.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I mean, listen, halftime, super bowl, obviously you understand it's a little bit longer than normal because of. Because of the halftime shows. And I'm sure the players understand as well, it's going to be a little bit longer in the locker room. A little bit longer, so you need to take more time to come out. When you do come out, the warm up makes you warm up.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hold on.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Oo look better. Yes, sir.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You don't want to. You ain't trying to go to the World Cup Final. What you bummed out about, bro?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I mean, everybody I was rooting for is out of it, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, no, ain't nobody everybody. Christian Cristiano got put out early. That was the only person he was rooting for.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

USA out, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They went out next round.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, I mean, it. It hurts. It hurts. It is what it is, man. But, you know, hey, Joe, I squeezing about eight, eight, nine games, man, so, you know, I'm kind of.

[Commercial Announcer]

You good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You should have got your full.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I'm content.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You'll feel. Excuse me.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I'm content. I'm content.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Me and my little brother Donovan watch all the time. Can you give him a shout out for his 26th birthday? And make sure. Make sure you shake the covers. We from Cincinnati, and unfortunately, he is a Bengals fan, so Ocho, please turn up. All right, Donovan. Happy 26th birthday, man. Bro, what you wanted? Hey, bro. Just wanted. Big bro. Just wanted to say happy birthday. Hopefully you. Are you shaking the covers? Hopefully your lady like the bingos, too, because I don't know if that gonna get you anything, you know, liking the bingo, so you probably like. She probably like winners.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, but we're gonna have.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Who gonna have.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Whoever team gonna have the best record, so we gonna have a little something on that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Who you going with, though? That's what I need to know. I need to know what team. What team you. That aisle over there.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, you can't. You gotta pick one or the other. You ain't gonna be talking about, oh, I play for the Broncos and I play for the Ravens. You need to pick one team before the season starts.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Uh. Oh, he finna get it. He finna get his Bronco helmet. Nah, man, you gotta pick one team.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Nah, nah, nah. We not doing that, buddy.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Who you running with? Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Which one of your kids you love the most?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gotta pick one.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

That ain't got nothing to do with the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you gotta pick one, Joe. You two. You gotta pick one.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, what football team are you picking? You can't have the Ravens and the Broncos. All these hypotheticals ain't got nothing to do with this. When football season, Come pick your team.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just want to know which one of your child's mothers you like the best.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Damn. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Wes. Is it shot? Is it a. Is it A. A French fry.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, I like. I like everybody the same.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no, no, no. We not doing that. We're not doing that.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, they've made. They've made life, Chad Jr. Hey, they made life extremely easy, and I made life very easy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you know what? Both of them put. Both of these. Put the kid through college. Got them cars, got a.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, you gotta chill, man. I can't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can't pick. Sorry. Y' all ain't got two teams. Oh, you got two.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I have one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, Joe, don't let a. I don't want to ever hear nothing. If Phoenix get start to win it. Now, see, when they had kd, he was over there rooting for the Suns. When they had kd.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Here you go. Here you go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You didn't root for the son when they had kd.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I may have rooted for him, but it's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you see what I'm saying?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

It's a difference.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can root for him.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You know what I mean? And. And still be a. A Hulk. It's okay. Yeah, but I can't. I ain't. I ain't flickered to where every week I'm like, okay, boom, My Broncos lost.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I won a championship, Joe. Just a matter. So let me ask you a question. If you want a championship that year, you was in Phoenix.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And y' all win the championship. Y' all won six, two games. How you gonna behave?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, I'm gonna be playing. I'll be claiming. I'm gonna be claiming. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna be claiming. You see how many teams you got? You got the Bengals.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

That's it. That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the. The Patriots. Joe, now he up there. He be claiming them Guppies because I'm from Miami, so. You ain't play for the guppies.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I'm from Miami. That will always be my home team. And I play for Cincinnati and the Patriots.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's. What's up, big three? Can you shout out my wife out? Me, Eric, and my wife Latonya. Today is our 24th wedding anniversary, and it also gives a birthday shout out to our daughter, Jana. Her birthday is tomorrow. She'll be eight.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Eric Latonya, happy wedding anniversary. 24 years of bliss. Almost.

[Guest/Caller]

Almost.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A silver 25 is a silver anniversary, man. I know there's been a lot of ups and downs, but you guys have weathered the storm and. Hey. And been united because it's you and Eric latonya. You and Eric against the problem. It's not the Problem against y'.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's you guys against the problem. So congratulations on 25, 24 beautiful years. Congratulations. Birthday. Early birthday to Jana. Happy 8th birthday.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

We can't. We can't even be like Latonya, Eric, man. They. They finna go on 25 years. We still. We ain't. We ain't even jumped the damn broom yet.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

We gonna jump in, Joe. Don't worry about it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We gotta get permission. We gotta get rid of.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, man, here we go, man. Here we go. Here we go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Joe and I could just leave. I. I just made say, look here, you know, we got. We're getting ready to go somewhere. Okay, babe? Go have a good time. Hey, Ocho and I go into the moon. Okay, baby. When you get halfway there, just let me know.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You made it safe, okay?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he. With our problems. We don't got all the suits and everything. We'd have got the extra booster, man. Hey, hey, you know. Hey, you know, I ain't gonna be able to, man.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, man. Oh, man. Chad, Y' all see what's going on? Chat.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, hey, listen. We. We gotta get it from somewhere.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Look. Here you go. He can't wait to chime in and then throw his. Since then, he can't wait.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

My bad. I'mma save my little two cents. What feels do on the first.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's all right. We understand. We understand. I mean that. Hey, and you know, I'm. I'm getting to that point too, where I just, you know, I was like, you know, I. And. And instead of asking about going somewhere, oo, I just don't even mention it. Yeah, I just don't even mention. Keep it down.

[Commercial Announcer]

Keep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what I'm saying? I understand, Joe.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Oh, you're right.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Huh?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just. Just keep. Just. Just to keep confusion down.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey, hey, y'. All. Y' all gotta chill, bro. For real. Y' all gotta really chill. I wouldn't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I wouldn't even.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I wouldn't even. I wouldn't even mention anything. I wouldn't say nothing about it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

If y' all don't want. If y' all really don't want to do it, it's okay, man. I ain't judging y', all, you know, I'm just asking that.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Joe. We ain't got no problem getting up and going nowhere. Joe, just, you know, only one of us gotta.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean. I mean, the thing is that there's three of us now. I mean, when it was just Ocho and I, it was cool to just two people show up.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But now, I mean, when the third person don't show, man. What, What, What? What ISO, man. Yeah, what am I supposed to say? Yeah, listen, I got to be honest. Old lady would let him come.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Fellas, can we move on? We trying to do something like what Tanya and Eric got going on. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's inspiring. That's inspiring.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, I bet you Tanya, Eric showed up when they were supposed to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, as a couple.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, yeah. I tell you that. I mean, hey, but Joe, that's neither here nor there. They still make, you know what we

[Shannon Sharpe]

the two musketeers, you know, Three is two.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, man. Can we move on?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, sure.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I mean, when we move on, you

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

gonna show up to that Ocho ojo. You about to piss me off now. Hey, well, I see you tomorrow now. Hey, I'm telling you. Hey, I'm trying to be cool now.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, I want to piss you off, boy. Especially this time of night, bro.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, all right.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

You hear me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But it's all. But it's all good, though. You know what I'm saying, Joe? Hey, I mean, I have Shelly. I have Shelly. Put a burger.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Come on, come on, come on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, come on, good people. You. You make sure Joe be where he's supposed to be when he's supposed to be here, you know?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hold on, hold on. Why y' all talking? Real talk is. I know a cat, bro. He used to have to stay on FaceTime with his. With his old lady when he was on the road. Cause he had been caught up so much, you know, he, he, he, he. He couldn't be trusted. Yeah. Can you imagine?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

No, I can't.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hell no.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

No, no, no. Yeah, I'd rather be miserable by myself.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hello?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah, that's doing too much.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle. My partners and co host, the Liberty City legend, the bingo Ring of Fame honoree. He's a former pro bowler and an all Pro. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson. And the seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks, University of Arkansas alumni, Mr. Clutch. That is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support and your continued support. All the awards, all the praise and adulation that we've received. It's all because of your eyes, ears and your word of mouth and we cannot thank you enough. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier head over to laportiercognac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. Remember, it is a premium VSOP cognac that drinks like an XO without the price. And we have it in two sizes. The 750 is the OG, the 375 is the Junior. Same great quality, the same great taste, the same smoothness. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Again. Thank you guys for joining us. I'm Unk, he's Ocho, he's ISO. We'll see you tomorrow.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Peace.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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