Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Unk & Haddy on Viral Success, Gym Mentality & More!

Summary

Nightcap Podcast

Episode: Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Unk & Haddy on Viral Success, Gym Mentality & More!
Date: August 4, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson
Special Guests: Debo, Hottie, Joe

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the world of training and mentorship with Deebo and Hottie, focusing on their viral gym culture, the “tax system,” and what it takes mentally—beyond the physical grind—to level up. The conversation is as much about discipline, brotherhood, and personal growth as it is about sets and reps. Along the way, the group reflects on viral moments, mentorship, authenticity, and rising above excuses, all with their signature blend of humor, intensity, and unfiltered talk.

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Key Discussion Points

The "Tax System" in the Gym

Timestamps: 03:15–06:00, 34:08–35:27

• What is “the tax”?:
  Hottie describes their unique workout penalty system—"taxes" are reps or exercises added for things like stopping mid-set, wearing jewelry, unnecessary conversation, or not paying attention.
• How it works:
  • "After every set. It's tax after every set. Push ups. That's the baseline." — Hottie (04:46)
  • “If you close your eyes, it’s 20. Jewelry, Joe. Don’t come in there with jewelry on." — Hottie (05:09)
  • “If you stop in the middle of your push ups or put your knee on the floor, it’s another 20." — Hottie (34:15)
• Philosophy:
  The system is about pushing mental boundaries, discipline—even the smallest break or hesitation adds up, making workouts far tougher.

Mental Toughness and Transformation

Timestamps: 05:51–09:21, 21:28–23:18

• Identifying grit:
  “How fast can you tell if somebody is gonna quit?”
  “Five minutes.” — Hottie (05:51) “When the person says, 'how many left?,' that's the first sign.” — Debo (06:08)
• Switching the mentality:
  “I had to jump back into who and what I was that built who I am... I had to dig into it.” — Bobby Bones (Shannon/Unc) (07:01)
• Transformation:
  Debo compares accessing inner drive to letting the “Hulk” out, drawing from pain and adversity to fuel the workout (08:33).
  • “Take all this stuff that’s happened to you, put in that jar, and sometimes you gotta take the top off and let it go. And when he did that, the whole workout changed.” — Debo (09:21)
• Mentorship:
  The post-workout conversations are often even more meaningful, leading to emotional breakthroughs: “That’s the real growth… we're gonna put in this pain together and then sit down and talk about it.” — Debo (16:55)

Viral Workouts & Authenticity

Timestamps: 13:42–16:54

• Viral guests:
  The crew discusses influencers and celebrities who show up for the workouts—noting who surprises and who just wants content.
  • “Ashton Hall surprised us... He left his persona at the door; it wasn’t about money or status—it was men amongst men.” — Debo (14:20)
  • "Matt Rife did good. Came in, didn't know what to expect, but he's a dog, bro." — Hottie (16:10)
• Cameras vs. commitment:
  “For some people, it’s for content and going viral. For others, it’s for their soul and body… for me, I could be home with my family.” — Debo (16:28)

The Meaning Behind "To the Death" Brand

Timestamps: 23:59–25:00

• Origin:
  Started in 2021, inspired by Hottie’s father's philosophy: “It's gonna be like that till you die."
• Beyond apparel:
  “It's more like a community. I don’t even want people wearing it if they’re not gonna live that type of life." — Hottie (24:01)
• Message:
  Commitment, perseverance, hard work—“to the death” becomes a lifestyle and a motto pushing both self and others.

Overcoming Excuses & Maintaining Discipline

Timestamps: 26:27–27:41, 34:08–34:57

• Calling yourself out:
  When Joe admits his post-retirement laziness, Debo pushes back: “Are you comfortable enough not to hit the gym?”
  “No.” — Joe
  "So what the f--- are you waiting for, Joe?" — Debo (27:10)
  • Joe vows: “I'm starting back today. I promise you. Today.” (27:20)
  • “When you do it, record it.” — Debo (27:42)
• No shortcuts:
  “Early in the morning. The push ups will get you. I'm telling you that right now.” — Bobby Bones (34:00)
  • “We don’t close the gym till you finish.” — Hottie (34:34)

The Power of Brotherhood and Shared Suffering

Timestamps: 20:47–22:47, 40:10–41:14

• The breakdown:
  “You meet people, we all got a little wall up… when you suffer together, go through pain, everybody lets that wall down. That’s why people start crying, that’s when their emotions come out.” — Hottie (20:47)
  • Sometimes there are tears; sometimes there's laughter. The authenticity in this suffering creates deeper bonds and real personal growth.

Personal Inspiration & Stories

Timestamps: 42:22–46:56

• Debo’s origins:
  Inspired by 80s action movies, sports, and the desire to be different from negativity in his “hood.”
  — “I just wanted to always be in shape… Whatever I go through mentally and physically, I'm gonna take that on myself in the gym and make me a better person.” — Debo (43:16)
• Hottie’s drive:
  From D1 soccer to gym-life after injury and adversity, using discipline as a way out.
  — “Creating a better situation for my family. All I knew was physical output could get me there.” — Hottie (45:36)
  • After his own injury, Hottie channeled depression into drive: “He kept calling me pretty boy. Now I want to work out. We’re going to see how pretty I am.” (46:56)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On spotting who can hang:
  “When you tell somebody 200, then they'd be like, 'What you say?'...The first thing we usually see is when the person says, 'how many left?'” — Debo (06:08)
• On taxation:
  “They tax anything. Unnecessary conversations, not paying attention to the workout…” — Debo (05:32)
• On mentorship
  “We didn’t ask him for his information, didn’t want no sponsorship. We came to work, like we gonna bring the dog out of you.” — Debo on training Ashton Hall (14:53)
• On refusing to quit:
  “If you quit during this workout, would you ask your wife to quit during labor?” — Debo (22:17)
• On mental switching:
  “He had a transformation... Take all this stuff that's happened to you, put in that jar, and sometimes you gotta take the top off and let it go.” — Debo (09:21)
• On excuses:
  “Excuse. There's nothing but excuses. I was being lazy. So I'm literally starting back out today.” — Joe (27:20)
• On community:
  “The company you keep will speak to the person that you are and the things you aspire to be.” — Bobby Bones (50:07)

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Segment Timestamps

• 03:15 — Joe and Hottie discuss the “tax system” in workouts
• 05:51 — Spotting weakness quickly; “First set extensions”
• 07:01 — Mental switch and digging deep in tough sets
• 09:21 — Emotional transformation and “take the top off the jar”
• 13:42 — Viral guests: who lives up or exceeds expectations
• 16:55 — Post-workout conversations and emotional breakthroughs
• 23:59 — "To the Death" clothing brand’s origins and meaning
• 26:27 — Joe vows to get back to the gym; no excuses speech
• 34:08 — Breaking down push-up penalties and “no shortcuts”
• 40:10 — Real learning and insights from gym suffering
• 42:22 — Inspiration—Debo and Hottie share their stories

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Final Notes & Upcoming Plans

• The group plans a future group workout, bringing father figures and the full crew together for a true test of discipline and camaraderie.
• Listeners are reminded: excuses are the enemy, and only authentic effort and personal connection create real growth—physically and mentally.

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Signature Tone:
Dynamic, joking, straight-shooting, and at moments deeply personal and motivational.
For listeners:
This episode is packed with both gym wisdom and life keys—equal parts tough love, inspiration, and real talk. While the physical is grueling, the take-home message is about character and community. If you need a kick in the ass to get started or keep pushing, this one delivers.

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Transcript

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[Bobby Bones]

Joe, go ahead, baby.

[Joe]

I say explain for me what, what is the tax system so tax.

[Bobby Bones]

We got to get Joe in there. Next one. Joanne, you can do it.

[Joe]

Listen, I know I could do it because look, when y' all saying these workouts, I prom. My dad was a professional bodybuilder and he works out every morning, 4 o'.

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Clock.

[Joe]

I want to get real in there. Yo, listen, we talking about reps. We're

[Bobby Bones]

talking about hella reps.

[Joe]

I know, I. I underst. Debo, I'm trying to tell you the one person that I want to go, I'mma come for sure. I want to come. And I want to bring my dad.

[Bobby Bones]

Bring your daddy with you.

[Debo]

Yes.

[Joe]

I promise you. Because my dad, he trains like you guys. I need to get back right? I need to get back right with the training, the pushing, the failure, the 150 reps, all the victim weight. The victim weight, my dad, he bout all of that. So when y' all are saying that. I know, because the training that I started lifting when I was in the seventh gr, my dad was training me and my brother. So all of this stuff that you saying makes complete sense where it's more the mental, you know what I'm saying? Like, you gotta push past failure, you know what I'm saying? You think that you're done, you're not done, you got another rep in you, you know what I'm saying? You got another four, you could push it. So that mental state is everything. So I know I stopped working out a little bit since I retired. So I get back in the gym. Debo, chill out, chill out. I definitely, definitely, definitely need to get back in the gym. So guys, what's up with the tax system? I definitely wanna come out there. Just let me know a little bit.

[Hottie]

So every. After every. It's tax after every set.

[Joe]

Okay?

[Hottie]

Push ups. That's the baseline. Okay?

[Joe]

Okay.

[Hottie]

So let's Say we're doing tricep push downs and the count is 200.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Hottie]

On your way to 200, you stop to take a breath. Like you put the weight down for a second. That's 20. That's tax 20. So on top of your push ups at the end of 35, you initially had. Now it's 55.

[Joe]

Now it's 55. Okay.

[Hottie]

If you close your eyes, it's 20.

[Debo]

Jewelry, Joe.

[Hottie]

Yeah, the jewelry.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah. Listen, it's no time to come in

[Bobby Bones]

there with no jewelry on.

[Joe]

Ain't no reason to handle jury on when I'm in the gym.

[Hottie]

Yeah, not. And yeah. And then whatever else we decide to tags. Really? Some boy, some we don't like it. I'm a taxi.

[Debo]

Unnecessary conversations. Not paying attention to the workout.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, man, they text anything?

[Joe]

No, no, for sure.

[Hottie]

I just whatever. Because sometimes it's certain. Like if I see somebody just acting like they tired, but I could tell they're really not.

[Debo]

Or yes.

[Hottie]

Moving a certain way for the camera. I'm just taxing all that. Taxing everything.

[Joe]

How fast can you tell that somebody is going to quit or not ready for the gym?

[Hottie]

Five minutes. Five minutes. First set. First set extensions.

[Joe]

Because when you tell somebody 200, then you'd be like, what you say? Hold on.

[Debo]

That. The first thing that we usually see is when the person says, how many left? So say we do tricep extensions and we'll get. And you'll have 43. Or let's say 40. You know how many I got left? 160.

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[Debo]

I don't. I don't want anybody out there. I'm a stickler for the kids. And it's not about intimidation. Then you'll see like, oh, 160. Yeah. And don't stop because now you got to do your push ups. You going straight from that exercise push up board.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, yeah.

[Debo]

It's no walking around. Don't try to take no bathroom break. Stretch out of your.

[Joe]

That's what I'm saying. But people aren't ready for that because you galactic acid. What if your arms.

[Bobby Bones]

Dude, I'm Joe. I'm gonna tell you right now, like, honestly, it's a point. It's a point. Where ain't it the point of.

[Joe]

Can y' all tell?

[Bobby Bones]

I had to jump back into who and what I was that built who I am. That. That person I was. Yeah, I had to jump into that. Like, matter of fact, actually, we got a clip where I'm doing pull ups, bro. Where I'm Doing. I'm doing Rose and I grabbed this thing, bruh, and I couldn't. I couldn't get this son to move, bro. The first time, y' all got that clip. Y' all got that clip of me doing them Rose. Whatever the compliment.

[Hottie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I couldn't lift this the first time, dude. I can do it. And in my mind, I'm like, I know I can do it. I just don't want to dig into it. Why don't I want to do. And I'm like, you know what? To hell with it. I gotta dig into it. So you go and you. You grind through it.

[Debo]

Literally.

[Bobby Bones]

That's just what you do.

[Hottie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

It's no other way to get it done other than to be like, you know what? I'm done. I, I. Before I even got to that workout, dude, I had said to myself, I had already said to myself, I'm not digging into that. I don't want to go there. I don't want to go there. I don't play all this time. I don't want to go there. And they got me into that space where I'm like, you know what? It. I'm gonna go there.

[Hottie]

I watched. I watched your switch. I saw when you switch. I saw it when it happened.

[Debo]

Hey, Joe, listen. No. No bs, right? I know me. I'm a. I'm a. I know how to poke the bear, so. Yeah, right. I know. I studied him. I know he has that switch, right?

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

The thing about it is, his switch is he's almost like Bruce Brandon and the Hulk. He gotta learn to control it because he can go way off the deep end.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Debo]

I don't give a. Because I need it. I need you to be that man.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes.

[Debo]

He won't be the Hulk. I'm Frank Castle. We gonna tear some up.

[Joe]

Yeah, I'm right here with you.

[Debo]

We was doing the push ups. Yo, he. He was cursing that he looking at me and how. That's hot. He Right, Really? We up in the head. But I said, debo, take it there. I said, go back to that dark place. And I looked at hottie. His eyes. I said, what the. He had a transformation. That's what you. And I'm like, yeah, but. My chain.

[Bobby Bones]

What.

[Debo]

What I'm trying to say is, Joe, he started off very positive, like. And it was an intimidating good positive, like, if you know Debo or you study him, you'll see. Okay, yes, his facial expressions are intimidating, but that's just him, right?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Debo]

Because he's a man of. Of substance. He's not no pushover, so he can't prepare. He was warmed up when I said, oh, he's already warmed up. That he had to tap into that bad man. He had to tap into what we call. We call it a kill jar, right? Take all this stuff that's happened to you, put in that jar, and sometimes you got to take the top off and let it go. And when he did that, the whole workout changed. I said, that's who I wanted. I respect the nice guy. I need the bad man today. Go find that man and bring him to me. That man doing the push ups. He felt that man doing a T bar. He curses out doing the lap the rolls. That man was for a while.

[Bobby Bones]

Play some more of them clips, man. I know we got some more lined up. But, Joe, when I say bro, it, and I'm looking for him to give me something back, and he wasn't giving me nothing back. And that was just pissing me off more like, I want to fight, bro. I want to fight this. I'm like, I want to fight this. Give me something like, I love you, bro. I'm like you. I'm like you.

[Joe]

Y' all was working in it.

[Bobby Bones]

The volume play, man. Let it play through. Let's go. There it is, right there. Right there. Right here.

[Debo]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

How'd he get right? He ain't allowed to have these straps on, but he got the straps on. You change, you change, you change locations. What you can do, baby.

[Joe]

Let's go.

[Bobby Bones]

This right here is funny.

[Debo]

Joe, listen, though.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, howdy. You caught it. Stretching them lasting. Them lasting legs, man.

[Debo]

I see why they find you. Yes, sir. Sir.

[Joe]

Yes, sir. We get on that plane.

[Bobby Bones]

When you get on that plane. Yo, man, they got a banter back and forth. That's beautiful, bro.

[Joe]

Bro, it's love.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes, yes. Who negative here? Yes, he negative. Yes, he got the work done. How he negative, huh?

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He switched the grip.

[Bobby Bones]

He switched locations. He's speaking.

[Debo]

He switched locations. Crap.

[Bobby Bones]

Cramp. My body started cramping, bro. I'm trying to do a pull up. I can't even lift my leg up because it's cramping. Like, I can't even lift my legs. It's a cramp in my. In my hamstring, bro.

[Debo]

Back in my heyday when I played safety according.

[Bobby Bones]

Good, you started telling all these lies.

[Debo]

And I try to backpedal now. Everything going there, pop fills the weasel. I'm not ashamed. Overrated.

[Bobby Bones]

Where the shirt at, unc? Pull the shirt off.

[Debo]

I'm 400 weeks out.

[Bobby Bones]

400 weeks out.

[Hottie]

In the morning, though.

[Joe]

Oh, that's early.

[Hottie]

That's his fault.

[Bobby Bones]

He said 10 and five. He did five. He said 10 and five.

[Debo]

That's the one they had.

[Hottie]

What?

[Ice Cube Promo Voice]

He did what?

[Debo]

He said get away with sitting down.

[Bobby Bones]

You do as I say, not as

[Debo]

I do because of that attitude. What side you on, bro?

[Bobby Bones]

So on that one, I guess I was supposed to do five. I heard 10 and five, so I did 10. And then the other one, I guess it was, it was supposed to be switched around, but you know, hey, man, listen, I was. I had jumped into the bag that they wanted me to get into.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

And it was, it was, it was, it was over with for me. And I was. I was gonna do whatever the hell we was doing and. And if I sat down, then the hell with it, you know.

[Joe]

Hey, yeah, I'mma ask y' all this. So the Ashton Hall. Do y' all remember the Ashton hall workout?

[Hottie]

Yeah.

[Joe]

He gets clowned on the Internet. What do you think he learned from the workout? Did he do good out there?

[Hottie]

He did, yeah, he did great. I was. Ashton came in to work. Like a lot of people come in to find content. I've noticed that some people that come, we trained like there was no cameras on. We was just getting to the money. He ain't complaining. His security guard jumping to workout. He was training.

[Debo]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Don't bring no cameraman with you because they gonna throw that boy in that workout.

[Joe]

Now who would y' all say surprised y' all the most?

[Debo]

I think Ashton surprises because he didn't have to live up to his Persona. Nobody don't give a about.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

You don't give a about no goyard bag like when he first came. Because I hate to say his reputation precedes him. Think he's arrogant? You think he's soft. Yeah. All this and it's because he's a well mannered kid with money that's successful. So if you don't know him, he's soft. That don't soft. But when you come in that gym, hey, bro, be you these cameras.

[Joe]

Yep.

[Debo]

Got a chance to really be around two people that didn't give a. About his money. We didn't ask him. For his information. We don't want no sponsorship, nothing. We came to work like we gonna bring the dog out of you. What happened was he got a chance to leave his Persona at the door. That go yard bag. We about to get to it. And he got a chance to really earn his keep. And I said, bro, this is a difference. When you working out by yourself. You're working out with your personal trainer, they're going to spoon feed you. You don't give a. It's men amongst men. He had. He wasn't deadlifting. He came with us and started deadlifting and started going crazy because he got an adrenaline rush. Because in their energy is transferable. When I probably do some, I'm up next and it just keeps going. So for the first time in a long time, he was able to be himself without being judged. Nobody had their hands out, nobody disrespected him. He got treated like everybody else. And then once you walk in, it's not about how much money you got, it's not about your stature. You can be the problem. Give a who you are. You come in there, you a regular person, just like us. And it just brought symmetry. So he shocked us. I'll say Matt Rife did good.

[Bobby Bones]

I was gonna ask you about. Matt Rife

[Hottie]

salutes my wife. I did not. I didn't expect him, bro. He came the same thing. Came in there. I didn't know what to expect. But he's a dog, bro. You work hard, he work hard. Some of these people might not be this. You come in, they'd be the strongest. But for what they can do, they max it.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Hottie]

Like you get the maximum output and that's really what matters.

[Debo]

He wasn't trolling, he wasn't training. It's certain people that come because he had a publicity to gym and they want to be a part of the gym because they want to go viral. And for me, I could be home with my family. I could be training for myself. Real talk pissed me off when I got people in there that really want to get to it and for the cameras, but for them, for their soul, for their body, it's a different type of. It's a different type of bonding. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Yeah.

[Debo]

A couple times like when we trained with Depot, one of the best parts of the training was the conversation after that. That's the real growth. That's the real. We gonna put in this pain together and we're gonna sit down and talk about it. Right. So when we have these kids come in, some of them don't know what to expect until we sit that. We had a couple kids cry while working out.

[Bobby Bones]

I think that's, that's. That's a big part of. Of. Of Yalls.

[Debo]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

Involvement or transformation from the actual workout to what, what. What comes from it and that, that, like I said that that physiological and psychological aspect of it and basically what I think you're starting to get into is more of the mental aspect and the mentorship of it. Yes. And how many guys that you see, you know, you come in there and you look at them and you say, oh, he's not gonna be able to do it. But how many of those guys you look and you say, oh, he about to be a dog. This could be a dog right here. And how many of those guys are coming in there and you're just like

[Ice Cube Promo Voice]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Debo]

Painful Thoughts why did I search the

[Podcast Announcer]

Internet for answers to my cold sore problem? Now I'm stuck down a rabbit hole filled with images of alarmingly graphic source in various stages of ooze. I can clear my search history, but I can never unsee that.

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[Podcast Announcer]

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[Bobby Bones]

You know what? He's trying to work through something. I can see it. I can feel it.

[Hottie]

You can see it in their face. It's also a lot of times when you meet people, like even as men, we all got a little wall up. Yeah, you're not seeing past the wall. When you suffer together, you go through pain. And now we're all dying here together. Everybody lets that wall down. So we sit down after this when we. That's why people start crying. That's why sometimes their emotions come out because it's been suppressed for so long and they never to let it out. So finally they let their wall down. They're around people who care about them, who could give a shit less if the cameras were on or off. Yeah, and, and, and I think it brings it. I. I think it brings the best out of people. And then they're able to say, you know what, bro, this has really been bothering me and this helped me a lot with that. I'm starting. They start to figure it out like Shizzy.

[Debo]

Shizzy was a. He's a young LA influencer. I don't know if I'm allowed to say that brand, but he came and the pressure on him to be perfect, the pressure on him to just do all these things. And he came in and while we filming, he like, I know y' all want to break me. Y' all want to see me fall like every. Yo, we not here, bro. We're gonna make you better. So actually stop. I didn't care about the filming and we hugged him and he started crying. I said, bro, let that out, bro. We men, we all should. Nobody here to break you, bro. We all go through. But no matter what quit. I think that was one of the most emotional things. And when destroying came, he had a baby. I said, bro, if you quit during this workout, you expect your wife quit to quit during labor. You're Gonna quit doing a workout. But you wouldn't ask her to push a baby out. What if she say I don't want to do it. And she how the am I gonna make you, bro? You say things like that. It's a reality. So it's like, oh, for us, it's not about breaking nobody. We just don't want to see you quit. That I've been wanting like, how did this. We gotta go. Because my mentality is a little bit different. I'm a firefighter. I can't afford to quit. No, his mentality is way different. This is how he feeds his father, his mother, how he feeds himself. If he quit, he goes broke. If I quit, people die.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes, sir.

[Debo]

So we can't afford to quit on no aspect. Whether it's being influencer or fighting fires, you gotta fight through that. Ain't no say, hey, chief, give me a water bottle. Give me a Gatorade in the middle of what a fire. And the lady's on the third floor that I'm going to get her. If I lose my life in the process. So be. This is what I sign up for. And that's his same thing. He does this to feed his family. So if he pushes to the extreme and son happens, this is what he signed up for. Everybody's not willing to risk their life for their lifestyle. They just want the lifestyle.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes, yes, yes. I think, I think, I think that, that, that that's a big one right there, man. Everybody's not risk willing to risk their life for the lifestyle. Like it's is certain aspects that come along with everything that you do. Assumption. The wrist is what it's called. And, and that a lot is sacrifice, whether it's, you know, time, money, emotion, blood, sweat, tears, whatever it is. And I don't think a lot of people understand that concept. I know you guys got the, the clothing brand. I see it back there. The, the. To the death, man. How long y' all been doing that? What, what, what, what, what? How y' all come up with that?

[Joe]

It's the TDD.

[Debo]

Yeah. Since.

[Hottie]

That's been. Since 2021 too. Like the same. Around the same time where I started filming. It was just, it was something I always like my father always used to say to me, like anytime I was going through anything, he's like, well, it's going to be like that till you die. He's always say that, like I'll complain about something going on in school. He said, well, if it's bad now, it's going to be like that till you die. So from like, to the death, bro, I'm just gonna go do this to you know what I'm saying? I'm gonna deal with it. Whatever happens, I'm a deal with it anyways till I die, the whole thing. And then that shit quickly came up in the gym because every set was like, oh, so you die to the death, bro. And then it transferred over and we made it a brand, a community, a bunch of like minded people. I like to look at it less like a clothing brand and more like a community. It's everybody that. Everybody that I've never seen some like, I don't even want people wearing it if they're not going to live the. Live that type of life, no question. Well, at least they invested in themselves to the point where they're getting in the gym every day. And like, whether you're trying to be

[Bobby Bones]

a body, you got to start somewhere, baby, you know? Hey, howdy, you. I heard you, you did a little D1 soccer and you got a degree in. What is that? Civil engineer?

[Hottie]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Your soccer game, where, oh, where is it at?

[Hottie]

What you mean where is that?

[Bobby Bones]

Where your soccer game in comparison to. To like a professional amateur.

[Hottie]

Like, I'm right up there with them.

[Bobby Bones]

Right up there with.

[Hottie]

I believe so.

[Debo]

He could have went.

[Hottie]

I'm a little heavy now, but I like. No, I know.

[Bobby Bones]

I seen. I seen you had. Victim weighed 171 pounds.

[Hottie]

Oh, I'm 225 pounds right now.

[Bobby Bones]

He was. He was 171 pounds.

[Hottie]

Joe.

[Bobby Bones]

I've seen it on his. I seen it on his story.

[Hottie]

Yeah, back then, back then, that victim

[Bobby Bones]

where he was running around there kicking the ball and everything, okay. He up there flexing all this other stuff with the little sweet hair and everything laid back, greased down and everything,

[Joe]

you know, that's crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

D. Bo different now. He's different now. I got a hold of him.

[Hottie]

Look, when you come, it's gonna be me and you versus the two old heads, bro.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Hottie]

Yeah.

[Debo]

Oh, it's over with.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Joe ain't got it.

[Ice Cube Promo Voice]

Let me tell you.

[Joe]

Let me tell you what I got, bro. We ain't talk about the weights, the drive and the push. You gonna see me go to another level. That's what I'm saying. Yes. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go till I can't. I'm gonna go.

[Debo]

Let me ask you a question. What's stopping you from training?

[Joe]

Nothing.

[Bobby Bones]

Thank you.

[Joe]

I'm looking.

[Debo]

No answer to the question. I'm.

[Joe]

Not gonna start Back. I can start back training.

[Debo]

This is. This is real talk, right? My speak about sacrifice. God has blessed you to play in a national football league. Something that I dreamed I could have went to. Right. And I was legit in high school and college, but I was kind of went on vacations to other colleges that kind of derailed that story.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

I'm trying to say is God has also blessed you with a podcast, right?

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

With that being said, are you comfortable enough not to hit the gym?

[Joe]

No.

[Debo]

So what the are you waiting for, Joe?

[Joe]

And I know I'm. I'm. I'm gonna do it right after this. I'm starting back today. I promise you. Today,

[Debo]

you heard me.

[Joe]

Because I'm not what I'm not gonna do. What I'm not gonna do is. What I'm not gonna do is. What I'm not gonna do is I'm not gonna lie to. Uncause. We got grown man. Grown man conversations. And I know I got a gym downstairs that I know I got one in this. I'm making an excuse. It's. Excuse. There's nothing but excuses. It's nothing but excuses. I was being lazy. So I'm literally starting back out today.

[Debo]

All right.

[Podcast Announcer]

So cool.

[Debo]

When you do it, record it.

[Joe]

I'm gonna record it for sure.

[Ice Cube Promo Voice]

Every.

[Joe]

Every morning I'm back in the gym

[Hottie]

today, you know, I'm a check.

[Joe]

I'm gonna get your. No, we. Debo, give me the number on the cell phone. On the cell phone. Oh, yeah. Now, Debo, you done messed up now.

[Bobby Bones]

What I done messed up with because

[Joe]

now I haven't stopped.

[Bobby Bones]

You think I ever.

[Joe]

I know now I gotta catch up.

[Bobby Bones]

You think I ever stopped? Stop playing with me. You know what make it so bad, Joe? You know what make it so bad?

[Joe]

Come on, man. He acting like I ain't got.

[Bobby Bones]

I ain't working out about five days a week. I ain't even at seven.

[Joe]

All right, but for real, for. I'm bringing my pops out there too. I'm bringing Pops to the gym. I'm bringing Pops to the gym.

[Bobby Bones]

Pops to the gym. Because that's the person that can actually work out. That ain't victim weight.

[Hottie]

I believe in you, Joe.

[Joe]

I think.

[Hottie]

Thank you. I hear they be saying the same to me that I don't like, yo, there's a clip. Maybe you could put a clip up. But, Joe, I was at the. The fanatics fest in New York, minding my business. Okay.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Hottie]

And moving peacefully. I turned my head around the corner. I see people looking at Me with this face. This face. You know, the face.

[Joe]

Yes, yes.

[Hottie]

Myself. I was nervous. I was like, oh, I was about

[Debo]

to turn back out.

[Hottie]

I'm a holla at y'.

[Joe]

All.

[Hottie]

But he caught me. He locked my eye. I had. I had to go up to him, and he started pressing me, bro.

[Bobby Bones]

I did not press him. I. I didn't even walk up to him.

[Hottie]

He walked right in front of the people. You live, Debo.

[Joe]

You was sizing them up. I was right next to you.

[Bobby Bones]

I might have took a couple steps.

[Podcast Announcer]

I'm just saying.

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't press him questions.

[Debo]

You ain't getting that text message.

[Joe]

I don't got.

[Bobby Bones]

Did I ask a question? I didn't. I didn't. I asked the question, right. Come on.

[Debo]

It was. You know what? I cannot tell a lot. It was a. It was a. I'm starting to sweat because I'm nervous, too. The question was asked, Sir Debo, but it was a little of the aggressive. Like,

[Hottie]

hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Bobby Bones]

I was just trying to find out

[Debo]

the other way.

[Bobby Bones]

I said. I said. I said, hey, howdy. You ain't get my text message.

[Hottie]

You did not say it like that.

[Debo]

You lying.

[Joe]

Wow.

[Hottie]

I have the video.

[Bobby Bones]

Can y' all pull the clip he's talking about? But I'm just telling y', all, I said. What I said was, hey, you ain't getting my text message. I don't know exactly the tone in which I said it because my memory is bad. I had concussions.

[Debo]

Oh.

[Joe]

If you asking that, the tone was messed. The tone was up, Debo. The tone was aggressive. Had to be.

[Debo]

No, Debo.

[Bobby Bones]

It could have been probably.

[Joe]

Hey, bruh, I can already. I see it now a thousand percent.

[Bobby Bones]

Listen, it might have been aggressive with. No, because I've been told that sometimes when I say things, it sounds aggressive. I'm not. I might have been trying to make that one aggressive. I'm not gonna lie.

[Joe]

You're a thousand percent.

[Bobby Bones]

When I get back into it and I think about it, because I was feeling some type of way, and I just seen him and he. He laughing and joking. He's slapping hands and all that with everybody and all that. And he just gonna make like, I ain't texting. You ain't seen my text. That's how he said it.

[Hottie]

That's how he said it.

[Joe]

I know that.

[Debo]

Hey, Joe. It didn't stop. It didn't stop there. So now we in the bar, we feeling like little mini celebrities because we ain't got no money. Joe, everybody, they got on jewelry, they got alcohol. I'm asking for complimentary glasses of water. A lot of people like this. And I'm like, yo, he found us in the bar.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes, Joe, you was there, Joe. We was walking through, man, and I just happened to stop by that happened

[Joe]

through and see him again.

[Debo]

Had to check on the table. Is you okay? I'm like, no, I can't.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, Unc, you really. You really looked like you was okay. Wasn't that. Ain't that right, hottie?

[Debo]

Oh, wow.

[Hottie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, wow. Yeah.

[Debo]

Yeah. It was a very positive event and environment.

[Joe]

Great event we talking about,

[Bobby Bones]

bruh. I'm telling you, man, when that boy Wimby came through there, man, he made me feel disrespectful like that. I don't like looking up at nobody like that. He was like, I'm kind of. I'm like, man, I might want to just.

[Joe]

What'd you say?

[Debo]

Did y'.

[Bobby Bones]

All.

[Debo]

Because that was our first time there. Did y' all enjoy it?

[Joe]

That was our first time there.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm gonna tell you this. It was my first time there. And I don't. I don't really drink like that no more. And I, you know, I'm older. I don't know. Maybe because I wasn't drinking or maybe because I'm just not into that no more. You just standing around.

[Debo]

Yeah, that's how it was.

[Hottie]

Y' all getting old. That's what it is.

[Joe]

Yeah, it was a lot of moving parts.

[Debo]

Fact.

[Hottie]

This is the fact. That was for me. There it is. Oh, wait, we said, we said, we said.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, I drink.

[Debo]

Yep, I drink.

[Bobby Bones]

You sneaking pain.

[Debo]

I had to get to it.

[Joe]

I was.

[Bobby Bones]

He said, give a. What?

[Ice Cube Promo Voice]

He did what?

[Bobby Bones]

He said, you do as I say, not as I do. Y' all want to bring up all the aggressive clips. That's crazy. Oh, you put chalk on.

[Joe]

It is.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, he put chalk on. He put chalk on. Hey, get your 35 drop down. Yes, sir.

[Hottie]

No chalk is allowed. The straps usually aren't.

[Joe]

Oh, chalk is allowed. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Hottie]

Four, placing some chains on the bar. They want barber rolls. I just woke up eight minutes ago, bro. Like, put the straps on, you make an excuse.

[Joe]

Look, that's why me and you, we gonna work out perfectly. We gon get right.

[Bobby Bones]

Listen, Joe, ain't no straps for you. Come on.

[Hottie]

Early in the morning.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, listen, man, we're gonna let you do all that, okay? The push ups. The push ups is go get you. I'm telling you that right now.

[Joe]

I'm locked in.

[Hottie]

I'm focused on top of that, Joe. So if you doing your push ups, let's say, let's say.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh yeah, listen to this.

[Joe]

What's up?

[Hottie]

Not one stop. If you stop in the middle of your push ups or like put your knee on the floor or something, it's another 20. It's another 20 on top of the 30 or the 55 that you owe. So that number add up fast. Before you know, you might be at 250, 260 and looking bad.

[Debo]

All push ups. And we don't close the gym till you finish.

[Bobby Bones]

Right.

[Hottie]

All right, Joe.

[Bobby Bones]

And you can't touch the ground.

[Joe]

How long does the workout how long does the workout normally take?

[Debo]

Till somebody die?

[Joe]

See, that's what I'm saying. That's the ones. But that sound like my you to failure. I didn't give me a number.

[Bobby Bones]

There's no numbers. There's no numbers. So you do get a number. I take it back. You get a number at the beginning, but that number can go up.

[Joe]

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's, that's them workouts. I'm, I'm here for it. I'm here for it. But there's no, there's no ceiling. They just can keep moving the ceiling and you just gonna have to keep going.

[Bobby Bones]

No, you set? As soon as they tell you we got 200, we got, we got, we got, we got 35, we got, we got even. It breaks down to tens and fives like we were doing. But if you trick it off, it's a tax.

[Joe]

Okay? No, that's what gets you. That's what gets you the taxes.

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Podcast Announcer]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Bobby Bones Show Host]

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[Podcast Announcer]

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[Hottie]

Tax in the beginning is 235. So it's 235. That 235 could turn it to 350 with a couple little long breaths and a little break in between.

[Ice Cube Promo Voice]

Yeah.

[Debo]

Shove response. That's on you.

[Joe]

That's on you. You determine. I gotta be on pace. I gotta be.

[Bobby Bones]

Listen to me, listen to me. Come in there with your mind ready that I am going to go through hell.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm going to have to push through it. Don't come in there like I did, where I'm like, you know what I'm gonna come in here, I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do. I am not digging into my Bag. No, that worked for, like, the first three sets. Nope, that was it.

[Joe]

I already know what time it is, Debo. I already know what to expect, so I'm gonna already come in.

[Bobby Bones]

Listen, they taxing the hell out of me without telling me about the tax knee hit the ground. That's attacked. What you mean attacks? 25, 20 more, huh?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Me touch the ground, bro. They didn't tax me so tough. I said, you can text me all you want to. You can't get. You can't get. You can't get nothing out of. You can't get blood out of. Turn up, baby. I'm like, y' all tax all you want. I ain't got no money. I'm like.

[Hottie]

I'm like, yeah, he had the color. He had the color. Water.

[Debo]

The color. Water. Hydration.

[Bobby Bones]

Drink water Hydration, Joe. Hydration is supreme. Joe got to.

[Hottie]

I know you sweating. While we training. While we training. Ain't no time for us to go take. Get a little water break. We do that after. We just go.

[Bobby Bones]

You listen. You go kill yourself. I already did a whole hour of cardio, and you want to tell me I can't drink? Man, kiss my black ass. Imma get me something to drink.

[Hottie]

Nah. But you know what it is? You know what it is? Especially even with the influencers like, you come in there.

[Joe]

The.

[Hottie]

The. What really happens is you find out about yourself, bro. No, you really learn about yourself because everybody's. Everybody coming like, oh, yeah, it's just a workout. I could do this or.

[Bobby Bones]

No, it's not, bro.

[Hottie]

Everybody's on some.

[Bobby Bones]

Everybody I knew looking at it. It wasn't just a workout out.

[Hottie]

Yeah, my kids.

[Bobby Bones]

I said, bro, I'm not, dude. No, I'm not, bro. I ain't got that in me no more. I don't even. I don't even desire it like that, son. I don't lost. I'm not. I'm telling them. I don't lost every competitive bone in my body. I ain't got nothing. I'm telling them everything. Dad ain't going there, bro.

[Joe]

I'm telling you. This Debo. Everything, man.

[Bobby Bones]

Pulled that out. And I'm like, God damn it. Now I gotta go there.

[Joe]

What y' all doing the workouts with the people that makes every difference, because you can tell somebody what to do. You know what I'm saying? But you showing me, like, man, I'm hitting these two. I got. I got a hunted, so you got to go hit the hunter. So having y' all do the workouts,

[Hottie]

17 year old kids in there doing it too. People come in and the 17, our 17 year old kids will drop them off, drop them smooth facts right off

[Debo]

the jump, right off the jump. We'll, we'll. They'll jump it and they can't understand. And I'm like, yo, he's 17, he's 18. But they've been there, the condition, they've been doing this and, and our condition for them was, okay, I want y' all to do something besides this. So now they go to football camp for Montclair State, August 11th. We got two of them going out of my nephew AJ and that's the type of stuff we do. We, we. It's about you growing with us, so we can help you to grow. Go whatever you like. We, we support it. If it's positive, we're going to support it because it's, it's. This is how I look at life. And how do you tell you when you leave, you can't take none of this with you. So certain things you got to give away, and that's knowledge, motivation, and sometimes time, because you can't. You want to be remembered by good deeds and you want to be representative by the goodies that you did. People keep it going. So that's what we try to give back to the community all the time. And as we try to get these learning lessons, these life lessons, like, once you leave here with us, take that with you for the rest of your life. So that's, that's just our, that's what we try to do.

[Joe]

Hey, who and what inspired you?

[Debo]

Me. Yeah, I understand. I, I grew up like in the 80s, so I'm older. So all we have is Rambo movies. What the Is so funny.

[Hottie]

He's gonna get fired before the iPhones came out.

[Debo]

No, but it was a little bit different. Like, all we had was rock.

[Hottie]

Go ahead, bro, tell the story.

[Debo]

You got a lot of money.

[Bobby Bones]

Why are you sliding away?

[Debo]

It was. Everything was about being in shape. And of course I played sports. And for me it was just, it was something that was different. I never did drugs. I never, I never, I never. I hardly ever drank. Never smell. I just wanted to always be in shape. So you got a figure like Rambo and all that. Everybody was in. Had a nice physique. And then.

[Joe]

No.

[Debo]

I started going to Diamond Gym when I was 16 and I felt like real life superheroes. Like. Oh yeah. Because even when I was in the, you know, doing good and doing bad, I always stayed in the gym. And then I thought as I Got older, it was therapy for me mentally. Like, it's certain things, if you tell your girl, she'll use it against you. You tell your homeboy, he'll think you weak. You can't tell Mommy because she gonna tell Daddy. Like, so. Certain things as a man, you got to deal with internally. And I went to the gym, and I used to always say, okay, I'm gonna turn my pain into power. Whatever I go through mentally and physically, I'm gonna take that on myself in the gym, and I'm gonna make me a better person. So that's. That's just. It's just my inspiration was, like, looking at Ronnie Coleman, Dorian Yates, of course, CT Fletcher, and honestly speaking. And this is not. No. Because Debo. Debo was on the. On. On. On the live. But watching him transition from football to getting in shape at his age, because we kind of the same age, he's still playing with 500. He's still doing them Debo things. Listening to Machiavelli, throwing the weights. I find inspiration in that. And I'm like, yo, if he could do it, I could do it. Because you never know who's paying attention to you for the good, not just for the bad. Oh, he got a bad attitude. He was getting fine.

[Joe]

All.

[Debo]

He's an athlete, you understand? Y' all mad Cause y' all can't control them. Yeah, man's in shape, so you want to piss test them every week. I pay attention to everything because you control fear. And this man is invested in his body, but he made his body a weapon. Just because he made his body a weapon does not mean he's a threat.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes, sir.

[Debo]

That was my biggest thing. And I watched him put the work in, and then to go to the gym with him. He's training at 4:00' clock in the morning. I said, howdy. 4:00 clock in the morning. 30 or something like that. So for me, I'll just say, like, my biggest inspiration was to be healthy. Because in my hood, everybody's high. It's a lot of junkies. It's a lot of, you know, it's a lot of bad stuff going on. So that was my positive. Away from the hood.

[Joe]

I got you.

[Debo]

I always wanted to be different from everybody.

[Joe]

Good stuff. What about you, Hattie?

[Hottie]

My inspiration. Yeah, Honestly, bro, was always just like, my whole thing was creating a better situation for my family. It was just bad. So my thing was, I was trying to play. I was playing soccer. That was my whole thing. I was gonna go pro since a young kid. I'M training. Like, I was. I would go to training in the morning, and then midday I had the practice with the team, and then at night, I was going to the gym by myself. I did that my whole life. Yeah, I told my mcl and then, bro, all I knew, the reason why I got so heavy in the gym was because all I knew was, like, my physical output. Like, I related physical output, how hard I work can get me here. So when I lost that and I wasn't playing anymore, I was like, all I knew how to do was physical. I didn't know how to, like, I'm trying to get to it and make this better for my family, but all I know is physical. All I know is, like, that type of work. So I just put all that into the gym, bro. And, like, that's why when he told y' all the story, like, he, like, he called me pretty boy. And then I asked him to work out. No, he called me pretty to the point where I'm. I'm really. I'm really going through it because of my knee. I was depressed. I wanted to him up. That's why I said, yo, I hit up my man. I said, yo, tell the old man, keep calling me pretty boy. I want to work out. We're gonna see how pretty I am. That's a fact.

[Joe]

That's a fact.

[Hottie]

That's the truth. Because he was doing it every day. On my bad days, you know, you're having a bad day.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Calling you pretty boy.

[Hottie]

I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. Not just pretty boy. Rib shot. Oh, like pretty boy. And he walk away. And you're getting like. Like now being tested, you know, because it's true.

[Bobby Bones]

How you coming back from that injury, man? How you told me he did that to you?

[Debo]

Yes. All right, I'm gonna answer both part. Yes, it's true.

[Bobby Bones]

I did it.

[Debo]

I hit him a lot, and I do. And now, yeah, I actually, I at. The funny thing is, I tore my. My pet muscle in 2003 at Montclair State benching. And then I. I kind of re aggravated the tender. Then the tendon popped off. So I met a good doctor at Summer Health, Dr. Vasquez, and he said I could repair it. I'm like, bro, it's been Tor since 2003. So it was 20 years of scar tissue and then had shriveled up. So they repaired it, they brought it over. So I'm on my 9th week post op. I've been out to sling for 2 weeks. I'm slowly getting Back in the gym, I can't go full throttle because they said it's gonna be like six months. But oh, yeah, I explained to the doctor I need it. I cannot, even if I go to the gym to walk on a treadmill or go to the gym and watch them train, I need it. It's a part of. It's a part of who I am. And I don't think people understand that. I know as athletes, when you get hurt watching people want to feel play. And then you guys, the thing about you guys getting hurt, money's involved, your career is involved, your stats is involved, but it's also a mental toll on getting hurt. And people don't see that aspect of, damn, I can't be in the gym. I'm losing weight, I'm losing strength. It just played with me mentally until I got my rap around it. And honestly speaking, I had to. You said something to us when we was in. It was in Pittsburgh and also when I spoke to you when we was texting Dming, be patient. So I had to look myself in the face and like, damn, if I'm telling all these kids to be patient, I got to be patient. So I was patient for six weeks. God, Lord, willingly I was able to get out the sling. So now I'm starting to rehab back and get back to it. But just doing something little means a lot to me because I'm staying active. So now it's going to be the challenge of being better than where I was at.

[Bobby Bones]

That's a build up, that's a process. Everything take time. Anything worth having takes time. And it takes a little bit of pain and perseverance to get to it.

[Hottie]

It's different for us. You know, most people, bro, most people, honestly, they get like fomo. They. They feel like they're missing out. When people going out to the club here, going there, they feel they want to be there. Like, he really like. And I'm the same way. You get fomo. When I see people at the gym and I'm not there, I'm like, yo, they in there working and I'm over here. Like, I'm on my account. I get up and I'm going. Uncle used to go live every day at Diamond. Sometimes he wouldn't even call me. I see him go live. He there. All right, It. I get up, put my shoes on and I go. I'm saying. And that's so. It's a different circle that you surround yourself with and people that you're around. Yes, it could be. It could Be that it could be left field. I want to go to the club. I want to go here. I want to go. Threw everybody out. Or it could be this, you know what I'm saying? You choose what you kind of fall in love with.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, definitely. It's the. The company you keep will. Will speak to the person that you are and. And the things that you do and. And what it is that you. You. You want to do. Aspire to be and everything else. So, you know, what we want to do really, though, is we don't came to that mark. And we want to thank you guys, man, for coming on. We appreciate you. We're gonna ex. Set up this workout for Joe, myself and my father. And hottie with your father there. That way it's three old heads.

[Debo]

Yes.

[Hottie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, if y' all ain't know Joe

[Joe]

young, past the same age. He work out.

[Bobby Bones]

He ain't young as hottie. I think hottie like, was you 27, 28, something like that? Young, young man. How are you, son?

[Hottie]

27.

[Bobby Bones]

I got kids your age.

[Joe]

27, hottie. I'm 37.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. I got. I got kids. How the age? Okay. So I might bring my son with me too, just in case, you know what I'm saying? And matter of fact, we're gonna set it up. We're gonna set it up so we could do it here again. Because I like getting up early. I don't know. I don't know about. I don't know. I don't know about all that. You know, that other stuff y' all do. I got. I like getting up early, and I like having certain things, you know, I gotta have. I gotta get my treadmill.

[Debo]

I gotta be able to walk.

[Bobby Bones]

I gotta. I gotta. You know, I gotta be. No. So what we gonna do is let you. Joe.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

What it's like to go through this. I'm already. Remember what it's like. And I'm gonna be ready for it this time.

[Joe]

I know we're doing it for show, and I need.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm going to the dark number after this. Before I even get there. Like, I'm going. I'm going. I'm gonna go ahead. I'm gonna switch it over. I'm gonna try and switch it over. I'm saying that right now, but, you know, I'm saying that right now, but the switch over, actually, it takes a little bit of pushing, you know what I'm saying?

[Hottie]

You know, get there fast. No, I know what pisses you off now. I've already learned you there.

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We Go.

[Hottie]

We're gonna get right to that in the first three minutes.

[Bobby Bones]

Cut the here, right here.

[Debo]

There we go.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, man, look here, man. We want to thank y' all for coming on, man. Ladies and gentlemen, please thank our guests. Make sure you like, subscribe, download like this episode so they know and know that you appreciate their time and being here.

[Joe]

Yes, sir.

[Bobby Bones]

Adi, thank you again for coming.

[Hottie]

Joe, thanks for having us, man.

[Joe]

I appreciate you guys, man. And we will see you guys on Friday. Let's get it.

[Bobby Bones]

See we out. This episode is brought to you by Bobcat. They started the compact equipment industry through grit, determination and a whole lot of think. We can't do that. Watch us. They set standards, broke records, empowered people to build bigger and higher, to dig deeper, to make the impossible possible. We've all been there with doubters telling us what we we can't do. Who cares what they think? We don't need their permission or forgiveness. We just get things done. So go ahead and doubt me.

[Debo]

Judge me.

[Bobby Bones]

Challenge me. But when the time comes, watch me. Bobcat

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[Hottie]

Oh no.

[Bobby Bones]

People are gonna be obsessed.

[Debo]

What do you mean? People hate the sound of chewing.

[Hottie]

Maybe they won't like the crunch.

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Maybe we're saved. Wait a minute.

[Debo]

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So tasty. Hands off us.

[Debo]

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