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Debo
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Joe Burrow
Let's go on over here to Cincinnati.
Joe
Man Gerald Burrow raves about Bengals most talented roster in his career. Now, look, before we play this town, don't play it yet. I let clickbait get me. I let the clickbait get me. And I ain't gonna lie to you. I was tripping. I was about to go off. I was about to go off.
Debo
Okay, Joe.
Joe
I thought when I saw it, you know, I got a little dyslexia, too. So when I saw it, I thought he said he was gonna throw 48 touchdowns and. And break the record and, you know, like, it was a statement or something. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, you know me, I was about to pull my olive branch back, you
Debo
know, on bringing, on, letting them come over. Yeah.
Joe
You know, I've been holding that thing
Joe Burrow
out to him like this, man, come
Joe
on over here, you know? Yeah.
Debo
No, you for show.
Joe
But.
Joe Burrow
But this is what he said. This is what he said.
Joe
Listen to what he said, okay?
Interviewer
I mean, you saw what this roster looked like in 2021, albeit you were young, but that was a Super bowl roster. Do you think what you see right now from this organization and in that locker room is a Super bowl roster?
Joe
I think this is the most talented roster that we've had since I've been here.
Interviewer
47 away, 48 from breaking.
Robert Salah
Doable.
M
Thanks, Joe.
Joe
See, Joe, that's a.
Debo
That's cool, Joe.
Joe
That's a lot.
Joe Burrow
That's a lot easier to deal with.
Debo
Yeah.
Joe
You know, doable. Yeah, I can. I can. I can. I can respect that word. I can respect. Doable. You know what I'm saying again, Joe, Words. Words mean things. Okay? Doable, meaning it's something that can be Done. It's not gonna be easy. It's not a given. It's something that could be done. But the reason he's saying it's doable, Joe is because he's sitting back still and he's saying, I like what they done did over here to get these pieces here and there. But what y' all done got me to keep me upright, which I done did to make sure I could stay safe in the pocket. It's doable if you can keep me upright and clean. That's what he's saying. But I will say this, it's doable. But I don't know how many of them you think you go get against them Pittsburgh Steelers.
Debo
Cause.
Joe
Cause nephew ain't having it.
Joe Burrow
Lil Peasy ain't having that. Okay?
Debo
Ain't going for that fact.
Joe Burrow
I'm gonna start calling. I'm gonna start calling. I'm gonna start calling. Lil Peasy, Lil Big Peasy. Cause he bigger than you now, Peasy.
Joe
Your son bigger than you now.
Debo
He taller.
Joe
He taller.
Debo
He taller for sure. Hey, hey.
Joe
He might be bigger too.
Debo
Now.
Joe Burrow
I'm trying to tell PZ doesn't slim down. PZ done slim down.
Joe
He done. He done lost some height, Peezy.
Joe Burrow
About an inch taller than me, you
Joe
know what I'm saying? He might be six one, you know what I'm saying?
Joe Burrow
You know, he getting up there.
Joe
I think, you know, he about 50 something, you know. You know what I'm saying?
Joe Burrow
About 10 years older than me. He got to be about 52, 53, something like that. 41.
Joe
42, yeah. So listen, Joe Burrow, I'mma tell you it's doable, but you better do it in the mother 15 games.
Debo
You know why Joe Burrow said that, though they bring a talent, that he still got his boy, he still got Jamar Chase, he still got T. Higgins. When they bring in more talent, he's talking about probably on the defensive side of the ball with some talented players. And if I'm Joe Burrow and you asking me, do you think it's. If I'm out there healthy and I still got my two dogs out there, I believe in me. I believe in them. I believe in Jamar Chase, I believe in T. Higgins. Now, like you said, can I be upright? It's doable if this line gonna be able to protect fool me. But if I'm out there healthy and I got Higgins, I got Jamar Chase, and. And I'm standing on my 10 toes, I can. It's doable. I can throw 50 touchdowns. You know what I'm saying? I did like this Joe Burrow, honestly, just popping his. Like, if I see the roster, I got these dudes with me, okay? The talent on the defense, they cool. I can throw 50. It's doable, you know what I'm saying? Right? You know what I'm saying? It's doable. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm loving his Just like.
Joe
Doable ain't.
Joe Burrow
Hey, we get. I'm about to throw 50. Just wait.
Debo
I'm about to throw 50. But just doable is I'm out here, I'm healthy. I'm seeing what we got on the. On the squad. Doable, like, that's just gangster. I want my quarterback to be talking. He's talking about 48 touchdowns. He's not talking about, like.
Joe Burrow
I'm talking about nothing.
Joe
Like now.
Debo
You know what I'm saying? I feel like you're like, you know what I'm saying? Looking around. Yeah, I like what we did on defense. We got Dexter Lawrence. We got some talent. I think there's some more talented roster. We got 48. I'm like, oh, this man got the swag. I like it, Joe. I like it, Joe.
Joe
For sure.
Debo
I'm saying it's smooth. That made me like Joe even more. He ain't even, bro. And it was his. And it was his demeanor. He's just chilling. He's sitting there answering their questions. Yeah, I think it's the most talented roster. We got 48. Doable. Go ahead, Joe.
Joe Burrow
I just go out there, stay healthy
Debo
and pop and just do what you got to do. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Joe
Hey, we got. We got one year. Go ahead, start working what you need to do. Get things set up, then you can come on over here. You know what I'm saying? Aaron about to get seven. Aaron about to get seven.
Joe Burrow
You come over here and you get
Debo
eight right on in.
Joe
And we back to back.
Debo
Yep.
Joe
Ain't nothing.
Joe Burrow
Ain't nothing wrong with it.
Joe
Joe.
Joe Burrow
Joe, we found.
Debo
We found. We found. Look, we found the 25A rod. You know, we can find 60 for Joe.
Joe
So holla. Holla at your boy, you know?
Debo
Yeah.
Joe
Come on, Mr. Brown. Appreciate you. You know what to go to.
Debo
We gonna see. It's gonna be a long. It's gonna be a long. Good old. The good old afc. We're gonna see a lot of jokes. A lot of jokes. Gonna see him, Joe.
Joe
Gonna see a lot of the Steelers and the Browns, personal, up close and personal. You know what I'm Saying Titans head coach Robert Salah said one of the first moves the team made in the nutrition overhaul was removing all seed oils from the building.
Debo
Okay, Debo, now tell them what's up with this? What's up with the seed oils. You let me know. Tell the people how big this is.
Joe
So let's listen to what he said first. And now I'm gonna hit him. I'm gonna hit him with a little bit of.
Debo
Hit him. A little knowledge.
Joe
A little bit.
Robert Salah
Yeah. No, well, one. You know, I thought our, you know, one of the first things I think we did here is get rid of all the seed oils in the building and. Which I think the players appreciate. I know they've. We've, you know, Ms. Amy has allowed us to attack the budget and get the, get the players better. Better variety. I think our. I'll put our staff. And I mean that. I've been in six different buildings, and I, I'd put the staff up there with, with the best of them. I mean, the, The. The product they put out on in the cafeteria daily is outstanding.
Joe
So the seed oil thing is kind of. Yeah. Here nor there, but depending on what, you know, research you're looking at. Whatever. Yeah, go it like.
Debo
So it's just the whole nutrition overhaul.
Joe
Yeah. So basically, seed oils has the possibility of being bad for you or whatever it may be.
Joe Burrow
My thing is this.
Joe
I use fat, real fat. I use butter, I use lard, beef tallow. I would take the bacon grease from a bacon item made and cook eggs in it. Okay.
Debo
Any.
Joe
Any kind of animal fat is cool. Olive oil and some, some. Some coconut oil. But I mean, getting rid of seed oils, I think helps, essentially. But again, as he said, it's the, like, where are your other sources? Are they clean? Are your other sources clean? Like your meat? Like, where are you getting that from? Is it natural? All the other stuff, like, is your soup. Is there other foods that you're feeding them, like super refined with other things that got cooked in seed oils through the process and. Da, da, da, da. But the biggest thing for me is the, Is the. Is the combination of putting together fats and carbs, like eating carbs with fat. So when you eat fat and carbs together, like, you're compounding, because if you don't burn off those carbs, they turn into fat. Okay, so now you're eating fat already there. You didn't burn off the carbs, so now you're stacking fat on top of the fat that you already ate. So, like, what you got to do is if you don't get your body to where it can like, or you can get to where you can burn all the carbs off, then what you want to do is like just go. I go like high fat and like moderate protein. So basically it's like keto. So what you're doing is I'm giving my body no carbs to fuel itself. So I'm telling my body, use the fat. Everybody's so worried, like, oh, you got to eat carbs for the energy. No, you don't. Everybody got enough fat on them to survive eating fat. Your body is going to switch over to burning fat. That's like ketosis. That gets you in ketogenics. You start burning a whole bunch of fat. That's why you see a lot of people that go into the keto diets and they lose all this fat because their body switches over to burning fat because you're not giving it carbs. Hello?
Malcolm Glebel
Hello, this is Malcolm Glebel from Smart talks with IBM. Today we're diving into a fascinating conversation with Stefano Pollard, head of fan development for Scuderia Ferrari hp.
Stefano Pollard
Your pronunciation is strongly American. It's more Scuderia Ferrari.
Malcolm Glebel
I'm still working on rolling my R's, but what I was able to learn from Stefano was the importance of engaging the Tifosi, the Ferrari superfans. In the digital age.
Stefano Pollard
Ferrari fans and super fans want to be part of something, want to belong to something. So they want to be part of a community and ultimately they want to be part of a winning team.
Interviewer 2
You've got Ferrari, which has a long history, design history, and now you're interacting in a kind of digital space. I'm curious how you balance those two traditions.
Stefano Pollard
When it comes to fan engagement, it's really digital technology and digital channels are being able to create a deeper connection with our fans.
Malcolm Glebel
To learn more about how Ferrari and IBM are using technology to build deeper connections with fans, visit IBM.comferrari
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M
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Joe Burrow
So for your body to get to
Joe
where you're burning fat, you got to burn whatever carbs you ate already that day just to get to the fat stores. You're not giving your body carbs, then you're already in the fat stores because you're feeding your body fat and it's like, yo, it's just going to burn that all day. Like at some point though, I will say this. If you do it long enough, you go get to a low enough body fat where you're going to have to start eating carbs. Like, like super top athletes and all that. Yes, they need carbs. But if you're by.
Joe Burrow
If you're a dude and your body
Joe
fat is sitting above, you know, 15.
Debo
Yeah.
Joe Burrow
Double digit percent. You don't need carbs.
Joe
That's just your mind, your body got
Joe Burrow
enough fat on it and if you feed it, yeah.
Debo
You're gonna survive.
Joe Burrow
Like until you get into single digits,
Joe
you don't need to worry about eating no carbs, man.
Joe Burrow
Like, oh, I can't do this. I can't lose weight.
Joe
It's this and that, dude. Just like eat straight protein and eat fat.
Debo
And what's in the fact you say eat fat?
Joe
Good fat.
Debo
Good fat. Like what's good? Give me good fats.
Joe
Avocados. Huh? Okay.
Debo
Olive oil. Okay.
Joe
Butter, dude. Real butter. Not real butter. Like beef. Towel. All that, bro. Like, okay, all the fat. Like any type of animal fat.
Joe Burrow
Eat all the meats you want.
Debo
Yes.
Joe Burrow
Like, I don't eat, I don't, I don't measure no meat.
Debo
Yep. Protein. Protein.
Joe Burrow
All the protein.
Debo
All protein.
Joe Burrow
Protein, bro.
Joe
Got you. If it, if it flies, swims or runs, I eat as much of it as I want.
Debo
Boom.
Joe
Like, it don't, it don't. It don't matter.
Debo
Okay.
Joe
And then like the rest, like heavy, like, like heavy cream. Like I take and put like, like heavy whipping cream, like in my coffee. Like, stuff like that. Like just like instead of the. Just I'm going heavy, like with everything.
Joe Burrow
Like the low fat yogurt, this and that.
Joe
No. Yeah, Greek yogurt. The whole, the whole kitten caboodle. Like, how do you find a diet cow? You don't, you don't find a 2% cow.
Joe Burrow
It's a whole cow. They process that to get it to where it's at, use chemicals. Like, come on.
Debo
It's a whole milk.
Joe
Like,
Debo
that's funny.
Joe
Yeah, bro.
Debo
So he moving around, he doing the whole thing.
Joe Burrow
Dude, this is the problem. So you want to go and say, I got a Formula One car and then this Formula One car. I'm gonna put this 87 octane. And you think it's gonna run with the rest of them boys? It's running on 100 and something. 200 something octane, whatever it may be. No, you gotta fuel it with the right thing. You can have the coldest engine around, dude, at some point, if you don't fuel that, that, that, that, that, that machine with the correct stuff, it's gonna gunk up and it's not gonna work anymore. You're gunking up is getting older. And as you don't feed your body the right things, it don't perform the same way. That's why you see, when you first start playing when you're in college, bro, you could go out, do this, do that, man, and come back in, man, that first time you hit that 30, and you go and do this, do
Joe
that, and you're like, oh, man, it's
Joe Burrow
taking me about a half day longer to recover. Go straight right back to it.
Debo
Yeah.
Joe Burrow
And as you get older, it takes longer and longer. And that's why I've been telling people
Joe
like, yo, the easiest way to get in shape is to never get out of shape. Never take off more time than you
Joe Burrow
necessarily need to without at least being actively inactive if you don't do nothing
Joe
but go and walk.
Debo
And that's the thing too, Debo. It's the consistency. People always like, I'm gonna go seven days a week. Listen, listen, listen. Just do every other day and do it. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna go and work out for two hours. I'm like, no, do 35, 40 minutes every other day, and then do that. Get consistent with it. And then you can add in something.
Joe Burrow
Add a day.
Debo
You can add a day, but you just can't start off with five days. I'm gonna do five days a week. And then you miss the third day. Now you like this. Oh, I done. I messed myself up. No, no, no. Give yourself something tangible.
Joe
Don't just recovery.
Debo
Recovery, yes, all that. Give yourself a recovery day. So real talk of being able to be like, no, I'm gonna do 30 minutes every other day for a month. Then you get that. Then you start getting the little stuff. They're like, all right, bam. Add me in a day. So just the people starting. I'm gonna go hard. No, you're not. You just can't go from zero to a hundred.
Joe
Especially not when you get older, buddy.
Debo
Yes, man.
Joe
Like young.
Debo
You could.
Joe Burrow
You could go do that. You could fight through some soreness and all that.
Joe
You know what I'm saying?
Joe Burrow
You got. You got.
Joe
You got.
Joe Burrow
You got youth on your side. You could do it. You could do a little bit of that.
Joe
But people are like, man, I've been
Joe Burrow
out of it so long, man.
Joe
You know, I ain't really worked out in the last, you know, 10, 15 years, bro. Your ass and tear.
Joe Burrow
They're talking about you going five days a. One day on, one day off, one
Joe
day on, one day off, until you get to where you're not sore anymore. Then you could go in two days, one day off, two days, one day. Like, make sure you Build up to it.
Joe Burrow
You can't just jump in the fire and don't.
Debo
And there's other part. Don't run in this thing. And just all of a sudden think, you better just work on the. You could do body weight. Body weight stuff is crazy. Where you doing a lot of core, a lot of. Just abs. A lot of that stuff. You be sitting there sweating crazily, and that's what you need to do. Just don't think I'm gonna go get under the bench. I'm trying to do curls. No, no, no. Get your core. Get your. Get your. Man. You got to work the little parts. You know what I'm saying? So just simple stuff, and that's going to get you going. Move.
Joe
Incline walk, Joe. The incline walk that I do every day, dude, that will burn off.
Debo
You had me sweating bullets.
Joe Burrow
You thought we was just going for a walk.
Debo
I thought we was going for a walk. You said we gonna walk for an hour. I said, I don't care what happens. I don't care how messed up I am. I can walk for an hour. That thing had us incline. We had us turn around when it hit 30 minutes and I started breathing crazy hard, and I was just sweating, just dripping on the jump. I'm like, oh, yeah, Now I gotta turn it up and not let myself down. I'm not stopping. I'm not stopping. But we working. We not walking no more.
Joe
For sure. For sure, for sure, brother. I guess their quarterback, Cam Ward, says he lost 10 pounds this offseason. Ward says, I think it'll help me with durability, just being faster, getting up in the pocket and trying to play my speed. I watch my diet more, continue to have more cardio. Just work on my body just now here. Just now here. And when I'm away from the building. Dang. Sound like everybody doing something. They. They moving everything over. Like, is doing big things over there. They understanding the whole concept. Yo, you know, the crazy thing is
Joe Burrow
a lot of these coaches, a lot
Joe
of these teams, I think it's just like the. The NFL in general. Maybe the ownership just don't understand the concept of what you could get out of your players if you give them the correct.
Debo
Yeah.
Joe
Things to fuel their body and recover their body. Like, it is your. I was. Dude, when I was in Cincinnati, bro, they was eating Earmark. The stadium food was making the food, like, for the.
Debo
For the.
Joe
I was like, I couldn't believe it, bro. Yeah, Like, I couldn't believe it. Like, it was the craziest thing ever. Like, Cold cuts and all that. I don't know. I don't know.
Debo
If you look at it, you got like, the same way we talk about the field all the time is the same way, like ownership. If they really looked at it like, as people, what do I need to make my investment better if I'm giving these dudes the good food instead of giving them subway? It's the. It's the little things of where organizations are taking care of nutrition, making sure they're getting them the shakes, making sure they're taking whatever kind of supplements, whatever they need, you know what I'm saying? Individualizing it. And that's going to take more time and that's going to take more money because everybody isn't built the same. You don't need what I need, you know what I'm saying? So the quicker that teams are really starting to understand, all right, turf is. Grass is more expensive, but it's going to help our players, their bodies, you know what I'm saying?
Joe
What do we need?
Debo
Food? We can just get in these cold cuts, you know what I'm saying? They can have them things running in or can I go specifically. My linebacker here needs to lose a little bit weight. Can I get them on a program where I have somebody specifically taking care of. That's going to cost more. But in the long run, you're going to get a better version and the best shape person of your player. So it's like, are you going to go and go that extra mile where it's like just knowing. Because the dudes, when you come into the league, you don't know what you don't know. They're giving you the fools and you only to meet dudes like you. To meet dudes like Cam that actually have people outside of the joint that are taking care of you. Really doing the dry needles, really making sure, like, nah, I got this person for you. This masseuse is going to make sure you get right. I got this person. I got this chamber, the hyperbaric. We gonna go in there and get right. Like, you find that the quicker, if the organization comes in there and it already have, soon as these rookies come in, we got nutritionists, we got the real dry needling people. We know what this is going to do. And even if they start taking care of some of this stuff, it's ex.
Joe
Oh, yo, yo, I got you.
Debo
Oh, okay. It gets a little expensive. So as long as they start taking care of that, like, just knowing when you do stuff with your investment, it can really, you can get it on the back end.
Joe
Yeah. I mean like even like when you look at like, like the training staff, all the other stuff, like, like just the soft tissue injuries that, that we have like muscle tears and all that other strains, like, dude, that's nothing but muscle imbalance or weakness, you know, and if you get that and you actually sit there and individualize each person's workout and test them individualized, you'll get a player to be able to where he's less than that. Definitely.
Debo
Hello?
Malcolm Glebel
Hello, this is Malcolm Glebel from Smart talks with IBM. Today. We're diving into a fascinating conversation with Stefano Pallard, head of fan development for Scuderia Ferrari hp.
Stefano Pollard
Your pronunciation is strongly American. It's more Scuderia Ferrari.
Malcolm Glebel
I'm still working on rolling my R's, but what I was able to learn from Stefano was the importance of engaging the Tifosi, the Ferrari superfans. In the digital age.
Stefano Pollard
Ferrari fans and super fans want to be part of something, want to belong to something. So they want to be part of a community and ultimately they want to be part of a winning team.
Interviewer 2
You've got Ferrari, which has a long history, design history, and now you're interacting in a kind of digital space. I'm curious how you balance those two traditions.
Stefano Pollard
When it comes to fan engagement, it's really digital technology and digital channels are being able to create a deeper connection with our fans.
Malcolm Glebel
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Joe
Yeah, like when we pulled hamstrings, calves, quads, all that other stuff.
Debo
When we were, when I was playing for the Steelers, we would take that little test and gee would have like you knew if your hamstring was about to get ready to. You know what I'm saying? Like they were like, oh no, your hamstrings are. There's something up with it a little bit. And they would just start working on your Hamstrings, like, your hamstrings are a little weaker, so we need to start working on them. I remember that was something that I had when I was there. That guy was like, nah, something's up with your hamstrings a little bit. And I would just start working on them hamstrings more.
Joe
Yeah, it's just all. Like I said, it's all dependent on what your. Your deficiency is and what that imbalance is. Usually they use a. Like a machine, and you'll use, like, where you do hard quad work and you do hard hamstring work, and you measure the difference between the two, you know, through that. And then you try and, you know, get that difference to where it's less than 10, preferably less than 5 is the case. Well, but, like, that's considered, like, perfection anytime. Zero to five is considered perfection. Ten is when you start running into issues. And anything over that, it ain't about when it's. I mean, it ain't about if it's about when. When you go pull it. So the reigning NFL mvp, Matthew Stafford, is officially tied to the Los Angeles Rams for the next two years after the Rams announced they have extended Stafford's contract. Bruh. Contract extension is for one year. 55 million.
Debo
Yeah.
Joe
The deal is worth up to 60 million with incentives. Stafford now has two years and up to a hundred. Oh, my goodness. 105 million remaining on his contract with the Raiders, says Schefter. Yo.
Debo
Yes.
Joe
I told you that boy won.
Debo
Yes. Sounds. This is exactly right. That's exactly what's supposed to happen. Market, he's balling. His team is doing great. That's basically say at 105, is averaging around 50, 55, 56 a year. You know what I'm saying? So solid.
Joe
They picked up Simpson, right?
Debo
You said what?
Joe
They picked up Ty, right?
Debo
Yep. Yeah, they picked up Ty. But you know what? It's in the. Yes, Ty is in the A rod.
Joe
It's yours. And two, just look.
Debo
Watch and grow. Watch and grow. Watch. Learn from them. Learn from. Learn from them.
Joe Burrow
Hey, man, take everything from him.
Debo
You like telling you literally, you're a tick, you're gonna be learning from. You're gonna be learning from him for sure.
Joe Burrow
Get all the information you can, baby.
Debo
Because that man, Matthew Stafford, though, bro, deserves every dollar he's throwing the ball. Amazing. Still, I think he's going to the Hall. Nothing like it. No reason. When they lost, I think their defense kind of let them down. It was not because of any. Anything on the offensive side of the ball. They put up points. No, no, that's what I'm saying. So with this contract, with this extension, making sure you're going to be there for the next two. Right up there with the highest paid quarterbacks deservingly. So like when you see that Dax making 60 and he just got the 55 extension, the numbers are what? The numbers are. So like, it just, it's just up there. That's what it is. Matthew Stafford, one of them dudes, he didn't go reset the market. He's under. You know what I'm saying? Under what the highest paid dudes are making. So, I mean, it is what it is.
Joe
How is he under with the highest paid dudes is making dudes up there at least got a year for like 60 with a.
Debo
With a.
Joe
With a. With a. With a.
Debo
With an extra five on top. That's what I'm doing though. That's what you do when you are Matthew Stafford and with the Rams, it's no. What we gonna be sitting here messing around with the 5 mil where it's like, end of the day, I'm good, you guys are good. We're in a. I don't know.
Joe
But out there in la, man, hell, that's.
Debo
There you go, Debo. But look, come on, man. That. That 55, he's. He's hard. He's chilling. You and taxes do not get along. I feel you, but just with Matthew Stafford being a vet, being a baller, it's not. It's when you say he could have tried to go crazy and go get what, 61. Try to like, I mean, just show
Joe Burrow
him a little bit of respect, man. Game, game.
Debo
That's 55 million dollar extension. That's what I love about him is like, what are we talking about here? Like, you what with that 55, what you gonna be able to do different that you couldn't do with that 60? I hear you. That's five mil. But now we can go. Maybe we can go get you another in California.
Joe
You're right.
Debo
It ain't much.
Joe Burrow
Might not be no more than a
Joe
mill and a half.
Debo
Yes, man. Let that man live. That man Matthew Stafford. Shoot. Shout out to him. Shout out to. No, look, pass. Shout out to him. Getting drafted and still balling. He was doing it with the Lions and now. It's not his fault. It's not his fault.
Joe Burrow
Let me.
Joe
Let me go back to that. Now that I was just. That. That just refreshed my head, Joe. Burrow, burrow.
Debo
Oh, Lord, yes.
Joe
What you got for see What Stafford did got up out of Detroit,
Debo
and
Joe
when Gotti one, almost had two. Joe Burrow get out of Cincinnati. You don't want to die there. You don't want your career to die there. No, sir. I don't want it for you.
Debo
Yep.
Joe Burrow
It hurts my heart to think about it.
Debo
Nobody does.
Joe
Hurts my heart.
Debo
Nobody wants that form.
Joe
Such talent. Talent sitting there wasting Cincinnati bungles.
Debo
We got this year. This year going. This year. This year is the. This year is the make or break, brother. Debo.
Joe
Listen, after we go get this one, go upstairs, talk to Mr. Brown, and you tell him you gotta go,
Debo
man.
Joe
Gotta go. There's no need. There's no need.
Debo
I don't think if we go get it. I don't know if Joe Burrow gonna. Yeah, he probably. He. He probably just know. He's that man. He probably won't do it himself.
Joe
Dude, what are you talking about? Look at Mayfield.
Debo
Who? Baker.
Joe Burrow
Baker in Cleveland said, hey, look, Baker had to go.
Debo
Baker had a whole different trajectory. Nobody's beating down Cleveland.
Joe
He would have still been.
Debo
Oh, oh, oh, okay.
Joe
I know you've been in Cleveland. That would just be. You know, hey, sometimes. Although the organization brought you in, that ain't gonna. Dang. Who gonna be your dancing partner all night? You know, sometimes you gotta. Sometimes you gotta switch partners if you want to get that trophy. Hell, look, LeBron did it.
Debo
LeBron James.
Joe Burrow
LeBron James.
Debo
He had to.
Joe Burrow
Couple times.
Debo
They weren't. They weren't. Look, they weren't getting the pieces around them in the Cavs at first that they needed, and he had to go there and learn how to get the ship. Went and got it done with Dwayne Wade and them, then came back, and then we had the pieces. They got Kyrie, Kevin Love, and everybody squab.
Joe
That's what I'm talking about. This ain't gonna be the first time, but like I said, we got a year. You got time to think on it. We go help you with that decision when we play you a couple times a year, for sure. But, you know, you don't want to end up in a situation, you know, that you're already in and staying there and not being able to get back to where you went, you know, went. There was first, second, third year or something like that. Now you may not never see it again. Everybody think it's easy to get back. They don't realize how much work it took there and how much luck and. And, and, and, and, and. And. And sacrifice and all the pieces that go with that. You Know to.
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Joe
Joe.
Debo
I'm gonna bring it back.
Joe Burrow
Look at the Cavs.
Debo
Yeah. What about.
Joe Burrow
They thought they had it
Joe
and they didn't.
Debo
There's no way you can run it back around to the Cavs losing that game.
Joe
What you mean? It's the same thing.
Debo
Oh, and then don't. And then. And then Baker Mayfield, Bro. Baker Mayfield was balling for the Browns. Went to the playoffs and won. We just should have signed him to a little extension. He would have been fine.
Joe Burrow
No, he would have been there. Losing again.
Debo
We won to the playoffs.
Joe Burrow
We was on.
Debo
He was on a nice trajectory. And we ended up one playoff game
Joe Burrow
in the last 30 years. Joe.
Debo
Brother. But Baker Mayfield. He wasn't there for 30 years. During Baker Mayfield's time, he did what he had to do. We was getting. We was on an upward trajectory. And then we ended up thinking that we was going to do this. No, that's what I'm saying. But it has nothing to do with Baker Mayfield. We him to a little bit longer. He would have been good.
Joe Burrow
Synonymous. They go together.
Debo
Cavs won the ship. Cavs won the ship.
Joe
True statement.
Debo
Cavs got that. Cass got that ring. Yeah. So, you know, we just trying to get to. You know, we. Right there. We Eastern quit. Eastern Conference finals again.
Joe Burrow
Y' all doing y' all best to
Joe
show them how to lose one. You just showed them how to lose one. You had an opportunity to. At least game one was kicked in in the finals.
Joe Burrow
You don't even get that opportunity anymore. It's over with.
Debo
Next thing. What you saying? Nixon 4.
Joe
Nixon 4.
Debo
You crazy out your mind.
Joe Burrow
They go close it out at your place, popping champagne bottles in your locker room.
Debo
Oh, and that's going to be the Game four is on Monday, and that's the game I will be at. So you telling me we about to lose.
Joe Burrow
You telling
Debo
Saturday and Monday. I'mma talk to you before game four. On the show, you said you're going right, and we gonna be
Joe Burrow
going right.
Debo
I'm going to. Yeah. I'm going to the game on Monday.
Joe
Okay.
Debo
Game four.
Joe
Okay.
Joe Burrow
That will be.
Joe
I don't.
Joe Burrow
Joe.
Debo
What?
Joe Burrow
Wow.
Joe
Joe. You think, like, that is going to crush you.
Joe Burrow
Do you want me to go with you?
Joe
Like, do you want me to show up after the game to be there for you?
Joe Burrow
I will do that because it's only
Joe
a hour and a half drive. I will be there because I know you're going to be crushed. You may not even be able to walk.
Joe Burrow
Like, I will have to carry you like the way you say your soul is hurting.
Joe
Be there and watch them get fake. Hello?
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Joe Burrow
You see them boys popping bottles in the locker room? You want me to come there?
Debo
Honestly, Honestly, Honestly, no. Not with this energy.
Joe Burrow
Honestly, no. I'm there in support of you.
Debo
Okay. Are you going to be wearing Cavs gear? You going to be supporting Joe?
Joe Burrow
I'm coming after the game to get you out of there. You go be in a a ball, a heap of lump and nothing but just tears and sorrow.
Debo
This man.
Joe
It's funny.
Debo
I'm going to know more how I'm going to feel after game three because.
Joe Burrow
Okay, after game three when you lose, you might not want to show up to to Monday.
Joe
You might want to get sick.
Joe Burrow
That's going to. You don't want to show up for if after you lose game three. Joe, don't go Monday. It's gonna be a start to a horrible week. It takes a while when you're not playing that game to get over this Cause you relive it, you replay it back. You know what I'm saying? And you gotta watch it. You can't not watch it now, Joe. This is what we do.
Debo
Oh, I'm definitely watching. I'm definitely watching. And just. I'm not gonna talk to you, though.
Joe Burrow
How you not talk to me, Joe? We got a show Tuesday.
Debo
Oh, after the game. After the game. I'm definitely. Okay. No, I'm not talking to you after the game three, win or lose, I'm just gonna talk to you on Monday before game four. Cause I don't wanna. I don't wanna talk trash to you. I just want all of it to be fresh. I want all of it to be fresh.
Joe
What about Tuesday, Joe? What you gonna do Tuesday Morning, Joe?
Joe Burrow
Depending after y' all just got popped. Joe, I'm trying to come there and help you.
Debo
Pull up. Pull up, Debo. Pull up.
Joe Burrow
Goodness, man.
Debo
Pull up. Pull up.
Joe Burrow
Like. I don't understand what's wrong with you kids nowadays, man. Y' all know y' all can't take. When y'.
Joe
All. Y' all get hurt.
Debo
It's cause I care.
Joe Burrow
You got everything put on. It don't make sense, Joe.
Debo
I care.
Joe Burrow
Your kids seeing you moping around, your wife seeing you moping around, she gotta stand up and put the pants on, Joe. No, no, no. Daddy's sick. He ain't crying over the Cleveland and the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Browns. He's a man still, I think.
Debo
Shut up, man.
Joe Burrow
He's still your daddy. You gonna show him some respect.
Debo
She gonna show. My boys was mad, too. My boy's dad. Did the Cavs win? No.
Joe Burrow
Hey, man.
Debo
Cause it's past their bedtime. They gotta go to sleep. Waking up. Dad did the Cavs.
Joe Burrow
Son, you done put them into a hole, man. And now they ain't got. Ain't no basketball team over here for
Joe
them to root for.
Debo
We rooting for the Cavs over here. We room for the Cavs over here.
Joe
Joe. Joe, if they lose game three, you going to game four. Yeah, for real.
Debo
They lose game three, I'm still going to game four. I got to. But I don't believe in us losing game three. We going to defend our same. We got to defend our home turf. I'm saying this, but I'm still. I can't
Joe Burrow
listen to what you're saying. You don't believe it.
Debo
I do.
Joe Burrow
It's not in your heart, Joe. You ever watch the boys. You ever watch the boys on. On prime, man?
Debo
No, I haven't watched Mind Readers I
Joe Burrow
haven't watched the boys people's minds to see what they really feel in their heart. If they was reading your mind right now, Joe, they know I can hear it. The chat can hear it. The chat can hear it in your words. They can feel it that you. It's nothing there. They saying, don't worry, Joe. They know you worried. Why would they tell you don't worry if they don't know you worried if they don't feel you already worried.
Debo
Hey, man, it's been a rough day today on this side. I ain't gonna lie.
Joe Burrow
Joe, is there a reason you wearing no sunglasses? Were you crying all night?
Debo
I'm a little puffy.
Joe
Oh, my goodness.
Debo
I ain't cry. I ain't cry. I ain't that sad.
Joe
You ain't that sad? You ain't crying.
Debo
That was just more. It was more. It was more like. It was more.
M
Come on.
Joe Burrow
You did that. I don't wanna.
Debo
I don't wanna want it more than they. I can't want it more than they want it.
Joe Burrow
Hey, that's what it sound like to me.
Debo
That's all I'm. That's all I'm saying.
Joe Burrow
Hey, Joe, I don't wanna want it. Ain't that what you say to somebody that be asking you about this and asking you about that? Say, I wanna do this, I wanna do that. But then when it come time to do it, they don't wanna do it. I can't want it more for you than you want it for yourself.
Debo
I can't want it more than you want it for yourself because I done did. I done did it. That's what I tell myself.
Joe Burrow
That's what I gotta tell.
Debo
I can't want it more than you want it because it's not for me. I done did my thing. This is yours.
Joe
I don't think James Harden want to play no defense. You want to go talk to him.
Debo
That's just what I'm telling you right now. I love the beard, but when I'm telling you, when I speak on our.
Joe Burrow
Joe,
Debo
I like the beard.
Joe
Okay.
Debo
A lot.
Joe
Okay.
Debo
I think he has a great offensive game. He can dribble the ball. Amazingly. The. The hand, the. The ball handling package is unbelievable. All I need, though, is this. This is what I'm saying. I know you're not a great defensive player, but, coach, don't put James Harden out there on Jalen Brunson anymore. And then James. Just move. Just move. I need effort. I need you to just for me, show me that you. I Know you want it. I know you want it.
Joe
I think his beard too heavy. He can't move as fast as he needs to. He might want to cut some of it off.
Debo
No, don't mess with his beard. The beer's fine. The beer's fine.
Joe
I don't know. He looks stiff through the neck. Sometime when he move like that, he be trying. Like he ain't getting over there. I don't know.
Debo
All I know, the games are lit. I ain't even get to tell you. I went out to Oklahoma City the other day to scout the competition. I went to game two out of Oklahoma City the other day.
Joe Burrow
What?
Debo
Yeah, scout.
Joe Burrow
What competition, bro? Y' all is not getting out of this.
Debo
I did. I went out there and I saw.
Joe Burrow
Hey, you seen what happened? Game two. Hey, that man.
Debo
That man.
Joe Burrow
Hey, Wimpy. Can't put that out every game like that.
Debo
This is what happened. They did a great job. It's a little bit of coaching. They didn't put the little. The shorter guys on them. They put Hartenstein just to put that body on him. I seen Wimby in person. He's humongous. His. The thing that threw me off was his foot. His shoes about this tall. It's not even how. It's probably about a 23, but his foot about this tall. His shoe. That's the crazy part. I'm like, how is he running around carrying these big boats on his feet? That's what was throwing me off the whole time. He looks. He's bro. Standing over everybody but his feet running around was the. Was the craziest part. But Hartenstein just kept laying the body on him. Cause he's light. He might be victim weight because he's, like, tall, but once he's get the.
Joe Burrow
He under 200. Ain't no way he under 200, Joe.
Debo
No, no, he was, man. All right. All right. They say 230 because he's 7 foot 6. So 230, 7 foot 6.
Joe Burrow
That might as well be victim weight.
Debo
That mean you all the way up there, 230. Like, that's a lot. That's real skinny with it. But he was doing a great job just keeping him out of the paint. So good games, good ball.
Joe
That's.
Joe Burrow
Hey, that's.
Joe
Hey, that's a good thing. But that wasn't you scouting. That was you looking at. Looking at greatness. You was. You. You wanted to see what it looked like because you had. You had forgot what it looked like after you seen what happened to him. With 740 left in the first game, you know, against New York, you. You seen what happened to the Cavs and you wanted to go see what greatness looked like. That's all that was. Joe, you wasn't stopping nothing.
Debo
You know, you had a chance to
Joe
hell of winning the series that you got right now. It's okay, Joe. Yeah, it's okay. Look here, man.
Joe Burrow
We go, we go, we go.
Joe
Keep it moving.
Joe Burrow
But we go.
Joe
Keep it moving. Look here.
Joe Burrow
Hey, we are out of time anyway. It's about time for us to go.
Joe
Yes, I want to do is. We want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe.
Debo
Yep.
Joe
Make sure you like subscribe and download where you get your podcast.
Joe Burrow
Joe.
Debo
Yo, we will see y' all on Monday. Let's root for these cast. Let's hope it's going to be what it's going to be, but I'll see y' all on Monday and we out.
Joe
It's gonna be what it's gonna be.
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Episode Title: Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Matthew Stafford Signs Extension + Joe Burrow & Bengals Improves Roster
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson (with Debo & Joe)
Date: May 22, 2026
In this lively, unfiltered episode, Debo and Joe dive into the latest NFL news and broader sports world, putting a special focus on Matthew Stafford’s new contract, Joe Burrow’s optimism about the Bengals’ roster, and the evolving importance of sports nutrition. The conversation mixes genuine football insight, locker room storytelling, and signature playful banter, covering roster changes, contract drama, health routines, and some passionate NBA discussion to close it out.
Segment: [03:36–08:29]
Segment: [08:29–09:39, 36:05–39:14]
Segment: [32:30–35:44]
Segment: [09:39–26:15]
Segment: [20:19–26:44]
Segment: [39:14–54:44]
| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |-----------|-------|---------| | 04:42 | “I think this is the most talented roster that we've had since I've been here.” | Joe Burrow (clip) | | 05:02 | “Words mean things. Okay? Doable, meaning it's something that can be done. It's not gonna be easy..." | Joe | | 06:55 | “If I'm Joe Burrow…if I still got my two dogs out there, I believe in me. I believe in them…” | Debo | | 32:30 | “Contract extension is for one year. 55 million. The deal is worth up to 60 million with incentives. Stafford now has two years and up to a hundred...105 million.” | Joe | | 33:45 | “That man, Matthew Stafford, though, bro, deserves every dollar. He’s throwing the ball. Amazing. Still. I think he’s going to the Hall.” | Debo | | 36:14 | “Joe Burrow, get out of Cincinnati. You don’t want to die there. You don’t want your career to die there. No, sir. I don’t want it for you.” | Joe | | 11:07 | “I use fat, real fat. I use butter, I use lard, beef tallow. …Any kind of animal fat is cool. Olive oil…and some coconut oil.” | Joe | | 25:05 | “The quicker teams are really starting to understand…if the organization comes in there and it already has nutritionists, the real dry needling people…you’ll get a better version of your player.” | Debo | | 20:19 | “Like the easiest way to get in shape is to never get out of shape.” | Joe | | 49:02 | “Cause it’s past their bedtime. They gotta go to sleep. Waking up. Dad, did the Cavs…” | Debo |
| Time | Topic | |-----------|-------| | 03:36–08:29 | Bengals roster, Burrow’s optimism, AFC North rivalry talk | | 09:39–13:06 | Titans nutrition overhaul, seed oils, and keto discussion | | 20:19–26:44 | Building healthy routines, recovery, avoiding injuries | | 32:30–35:44 | Matthew Stafford extension analysis | | 36:05–39:14 | Should Joe Burrow leave Cincinnati? Parallels to Stafford, LeBron | | 39:14–54:44 | NBA playoff banter, Cavs/NBA emotional rollercoaster |
The episode maintains the signature Nightcap style: candid, irreverent, deeply knowledgeable, and packed with locker-room humor. Joe and Debo blend cultural references, player insight, and camaraderie—creating an atmosphere where even complex topics like nutrition and contract negotiation stay vivid and approachable for die-hard and casual fans alike.
This episode is a must-listen for NFL/NBA fans craving raw, inside perspectives on the business, health, and drama of top-level sports. You’ll get hot takes on Burrow and the Bengals’ window, hear why nutrition is the game’s next big edge, and come away with real talk on what separates good organizations from great ones. The NBA playoff tangents bring it all home with heart and humor, reminding us that the emotional rollercoaster of fandom is all part of the journey.