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Chad Ochocinco
I hate to say it, but I
Joe Johnson
don't trust much of anything.
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It's the rage bait.
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It feels like it's trying to divide people.
Chad Ochocinco
We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little.
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Unk
I mean, what do you mean, the machine. What do you mean? Social media? So what the machine is talking about, what social media is talking about is exactly what he does game by game.
Chad Ochocinco
He does it every night.
Unk
What are we talking about? I'm sure, Mr. Presley, that's your player. You have to defend your player. But the eye in the sky doesn't lie, Joe.
Joe Johnson
You saying what you saying? You, you saying he out there. Foul, baby. Listen, listen, listen, listen. I'm not saying, I'm not saying sometimes, you know, he don't over exaggerate, you know, and try and get calls, but man, that damn game seven, he ain't do no damn foul baiting. That man was getting straight buckets. This is a part of who he is and what he's done. What he's done over the past three to four or five years, fellas, you know what I mean? He's a bucket getter. He creates a lot of contact. He plays through contact. He actually plays off of contact by lowering his shoulder. Not overextending, but using them bumps to create space.
Chad Ochocinco
That's legal space separation. Legal, bro.
Joe Johnson
That's what people don't understand. Like you can use your forearm, your shoulders, your hips to create space. Long as I don't overextend. I myself.
Chad Ochocinco
The same thing with us. Oh, how we do that, how we get that deep,
Joe Johnson
I just think, I just think. I just think he's so good at it, bro, and he's perfected it that now it's a problem. You know what I mean?
Unk
No, Joe, that's not a problem. What you just explained. There are a lot of players that have that in their toolbox, which about the failing. They're throwing your body all over the place trying to create the fouls and get the foul, get the foul calls. That is what he does all the time. I see it.
Chad Ochocinco
You see it.
Unk
Ray Charles can see it. I don't know if Mr. Presy watching. Listen, I know you have to defend your player, but the point to where everybody is mimicking some of the stuff he does globally, around the world and making fun of it.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. I mean, look. Ooh. It's a part of who he is. But he's right when he say that six, that six that machine. Because social media points out, they break down your game, bro. They break your whole game down and they may clip form you all the way up for 5, 10 minutes. Are you pushing off, creating space. And now quite naturally, if a referee sees it, he going to watch it. You know what I mean? So he just planting that seed.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Unk
Like you said, Joe, it's too many seeds out there, Joe. It's too many seeds being planted because we continuously see the same thing over and over and over. As great as he is, he's one that knows how to manipulate his body, manipulate defenders and get calls.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, he does. And I think the thing is now is that what Sam is saying is that because you have social media and because you have everybody that has a platform and even. Even though obviously some people platforms are larger, some people have five, five followers. Some people got 500, 000. Some people got millions. And so now when you get everybody that they feel their head coach, they feel their former player, they feel like they're a GM or an analyst, and they put all they can put this what a compilation together and say, look, look at this. I guarantee you if I go back over the year, Ocho, I can find. I can find something. See, I told y' all Ocho was nasty. I told y' all Ocho was nasty. Look at it right here. Look what he doing. And so that's what. That's what they do. That's what they do, Ocho. They take all your faults and they compile them together and they're like, well, damn, y' all do realize this is over a span of a year, of a span, over two years. Y' all make it seem. They making it seem like if all in one game. But like you said, anytime somebody finds out how to do something over time, they get better at it. And so now you get a situation where guys are perfected it and it almost looks like a play. It looks like. It looks like they normal. It looks like they normally like, damn, bro, how you do that? But they've gotten so good because they've seen so many players do it, and they get better and better. It's just like medicine. The first can you imagine the first guy that got his ACL worked on. O boy, he. Boy, that ain't never the first guy that got. The first guy that got his Achilles. They done gotten better. Think about it. Oo, that was a death sentence if you got. You got an acl. It ruined Gail Fairs. It was ruining players. Now guys coming back and having Tom Brady acl. Nope. You never know, Adrian Peterson. You never know it. Guys have ACLs now and then nothing.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, Ocho, man, toe up with that shoulder. Hitting them with that shoulder and creating that little space, knocking them off balance, huh? Come on, man.
Unk
When you gonna do me like that?
Joe Johnson
Well, you. Hey, hey, I'm gonna think somebody throwing stuff the way. I mean, when I hit you with that shoulder, I'm telling you, hey, Joe,
Unk
when I'm sitting in that chair, I ain't going nowhere. Once I anchor down, I ain't going nowhere.
Joe Johnson
Joe, I'm.
Unk
But hey, hey, one more thing. One more thing.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes.
Unk
I love Shay and Joe.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, for sure.
Unk
I love his game. I like it. I would love for him to play through contact a little bit more without flailing.
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, too frail to do that.
Unk
He is, he is so great at what he does. It's one thing to be able to create separation and it's one thing to flop when creating separation. There's a huge difference. It's a huge.
Chad Ochocinco
It's like, it's like a receiver. All receivers can't play through contact now.
Unk
Hey, listen, I'm picking up everybody.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, everybody can't play through contact.
Unk
I, I like that one. I like that one.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
So, you know, he overdo it a little bit. He just overlooked.
Unk
I'm gonna do it just a tad.
Joe Johnson
That's because, you know what? You, you've seen him play so much, and that's just his game, bro. He gets his mid range, he create the space. He gonna shoot that midi all day long. He ain't gonna shoot a whole lot of damn threes. He'll get to the cup, shoot a couple floaters. He may dunk it now and then, you know, get you a couple layups. But for the most part, he operating right in the mid range area. And that, that comes with a lot of physicality, meaning him using. Using his strength or using your strength against you, using your aggressiveness against you. You know what I mean? He is the best at that.
Unk
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
And look at it. I mean, I mean, he, he, I mean his, his lower extremities. If you look at him, if you like, if you have been at a Game.
Joe Johnson
And.
Chad Ochocinco
And you look at him, his quads, he got. He got nice quads. Quads on him. To be. To be as angular and as slim as he is now, his upper body is really nothing. But if you look at him from waist down, you like, okay, I can. I can see. I can see how you move.
Joe Johnson
Got a nice, strong base.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah, he do. Yeah. Yeah. Jaw is another one. You look at Jobs. If you look at Job from waist up, you're like, damn. You look at Job from ways down, you like, okay, I. I can see why you can elevate like that. I can see why you can play off contact the way you does contort your body, cuz. Man, I ain't never seen nobody contort. The only guy I see, and I never saw him say him play in person was Derrick Rose. How he can contort his body? He get up in the air and he twisting. He all over here, and he all.
Joe Johnson
It was none of them better than him at that. Oh, man. When you talking about attacking the. Attacking the rim, bro, I'm talking about. Yeah, it may look like he out of control, but he. He in control. Like, he was so explosive. He had so much torque to his body, bro.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes.
Joe Johnson
You know what I mean? I think that's kind of ultimately why I end up giving out. He was just. He has so much torque in that body, bro. I'm telling you, that boy was mean, man. I played a playoff series against. The year he won mvp. He was the youngest mvp. We played against him in the second round, man, that boy. That was serious, man.
Unk
Hey, Joe, who was more explosive going to the basket or putting the ball on the floor, going to the basket, Derrick Rose or Russell Westbrook?
Joe Johnson
Russell Westbrook was, like, more ferocious. He was just like. He trying to straight go through you. It just like. He was just.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, he beast mode with a basketball.
Joe Johnson
He just was sick with it. He just had that mentality. D. Rose, you know, he had a real pretty floater. I don't know if y' all really know, but he had a hell of a floater.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Oh, yeah, he had a hell of a floater.
Joe Johnson
But he would dunk you. But he would lay you even though he could dunk you. You know what I mean? As opposed to Westbrook every night. You know what I mean?
Chad Ochocinco
That man. Russ said, I'm getting. Russ said, I'm getting to the rim, and I'm not going around you. Yeah, I'm going to the rim. He's like, hey, you see that right there behind you? I'm Going there. And I'm not going around you.
Joe Johnson
Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely. Hey, hey, hey. It's almost for my dog lovers out there. It's like, Russell Westbrook. He's a. He's a Belgian Molly White. He. Did you tell him, go get that dude on. He jumping through the window.
Unk
Derek Rose.
Joe Johnson
More like a German shepherd. He gonna figure out how to get around it without. You know what I mean? Like. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Well, bad man.
Chad Ochocinco
Also, I recommend. Do not get a Belgian Malinois unless you have time. Unless you have space. That is not a dog for somebody. This is. Oh, I just know he'll tear your house up. That dog has boundless, boundless energy.
Unk
Energy.
Chad Ochocinco
It's meant. It's meant to be. It meant to be to burn working energy. And if it doesn't burn that energy outside, it's gonna burn that energy in your house, and it's gonna take your house up. So I'm just giving you a little advice on all these new cute and cuddly dogs that you see. Oh. Oh, I like him. Understand what that dog. The dog was bred Belgian.
Joe Johnson
Ain't nothing to be.
Chad Ochocinco
And if you're not gonna allow that dog to do that.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, leave it alone. Get him.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, you get. People get dogs that they run away. Well, why the dog hurting my kids? Cause that's what it's doing. You won't let him do that outside, so it's gonna do that inside. Gonna have your kids huddle up in the corner. Yeah, but look, I think the thing is, also, guys, if OKC is still playing or if OKC had. You know what? Sam Preston is not having these comments. He's trying. He's trying to. To take some of this off. It's like, look, don't even worry about it. Shay. Do continue to do what you do. Let. Let me fight this battle.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
And like she said, Shay's like, bro,
Joe Johnson
I'm gonna hear it.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm not gonna be. I'm not. I'm not the first guy that. They said Jordan got calls. They said Braun got called. They said Kobe got called. They said James Harden, great players normally get calls. Who the hell you think go score 30 points and don't shoot no damn free throws, right? Yeah. A guy averaged 30 points more times than not. Unless you KD, you're shooting about 10
Joe Johnson
free throws a game for sure. Yeah. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't give a damn who you are. I don't care if you Jordan. I don't care if you Kobe. I don't care if you LeBron. You Shay, you Luca, you James Harden, you shooting that many free. Unless you Kevin Durant, unless you're Steph Curry. Oh, you shooting that free throw.
Joe Johnson
You got it. Yeah. Because those guys love to score the ball so much that you have to find different ways to create points. Because when you're at the top of the scouting report, it. Everything revolves around you not letting you get comfortable, you know what I mean? Denying you the ball. So it's every night you gonna probably have a different challenge, you know what I mean? And uncle, I don't know, I think if they were still playing right now, Unk. I think that that music right there would be a little louder because people will still be talking about him, foul baiting and all that. Cause his game ain't gonna change. You know what I mean? He is who.
Chad Ochocinco
No, no. Why would I change it? Cause I'm having some.
Joe Johnson
But I'm saying if they had made it to the finals, they. I think that's it.
Chad Ochocinco
You probably right, because people gonna say that's how they made it to the final.
Joe Johnson
So he can't win. You know what I mean? He just got to continue to keep dominating.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, that'd be like Ocho. That'd be like you trying to change your game to play like Julio. Brandon Marshall, one of these big physical receivers, trying to play Tio. Trying to play? Hell no. My job, I'm playing on edges. I ain't letting you get your damn hands on me.
Unk
Hey, you know, I would end up trying to play with them. Play him on the sideline over there by the Gatorade.
Chad Ochocinco
You gonna be a gunner. You see how them guys have them gunners hemmed up, throwing the ass all on the. Yeah, you got to realize the guys that play physical, look how big Julio was. Look how big Tio was. Look how big Brandon Marshall was. Look at the size you. Brandon Marshall, 64230, Julio, 63225. T63, 215 Megatron, 65241. Yeah, they can play the contact. Yeah, but why. Why am I gonna try to play like that when I'm 185 1? Man, please get out of here. Are you scared? But yeah, I am. You're right. Go ahead. Yeah, but guess what? Them playing physical and me playing on edges. We're getting the same results in the end zone on you. Yeah, so that's what I tell people. Look, I gotta. I have to use what I have to to be successful. I can't play like everybody else. Play. What would I mean? Yes, if I'm Going up against a corner or safety? Yeah, I'm gonna play the contact. I'm going up against a backer. Why would I play. Go play that way against a back? And he's outweighing me by 10, 15 pounds, right? To try to prove a point. How tough I am, boy, I'm in the league. I'm plenty tough enough. Damn, y'.
Unk
All.
Chad Ochocinco
We don't get.
Joe Johnson
Hey, we don't get no points, right?
Chad Ochocinco
Y' all got me.
Joe Johnson
Big
Chad Ochocinco
Aces topped the storm, 101 to 91. Asia Wilson had herself a game, guys, 34 points, 12 rebounds, nine assists, three blocks. Jackie Young added 29 points. Asia became the fastest player in WNBA history to score 6, 000 points, doing it in 13 fewer games than Diana Taurasi. Asia did it in 271. I mean, excuse me. 270. 278. DT did it in 291. She was 10 of 19 from the field. I don't know if y' all noticed, but you working on MVP number.
Joe Johnson
What's their record?
Chad Ochocinco
I think they lost three. They lost three or four games, Ash. Eight and three.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah. Jackie yelling and got it going now.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, you know, she. I guess she has some. Some. Some things off the field, Some off the field, off the court. She got that rectified. She been cooking ever since.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, you've been cooking. They got a nice squad, bro. They got a nice squad. Well, I always, always. I always expect the Aces to be there. I mean, when you got a big. I feel like if you got a big. In the WNBA and she is dominant as Asia is, it's. It's. You know, you gonna be. You're gonna be projected, you know, be one of the top teams. It's not the top team every year.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
And they gotta figure it out. They gotta figure it out.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, man, they got. Jackie had 29, Chelsea had 12. Asia 34. Smith has 16. They. What they. When they get Kennedy Carter back? Because Kennedy Carter was gonna be the sixth woman off the one.
Joe Johnson
What she did. She got hurt. She hurt?
Chad Ochocinco
I think so. I think so, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
But you know what? Hey, I'm looking at Asia, if you notice, Joe, she's added that three ball to a game.
Joe Johnson
Yep. Shoot three for five tonight. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Remember the other time? Damn, I wish you could have got that triple double. Yeah.
Joe Johnson
You know, in today's game, bro, it ain't just the men out here expanding their game. These women, man, they taking the game to a whole nother level. Okay, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey.
Joe Johnson
Hey. These Big girls ain't just out here. They ain't just in the paint no more. You know, you got a lot of
Chad Ochocinco
girls and that's what. And that's why a lot, a lot
Joe Johnson
of girls coming from overseas to play over here in this league. Them girls can shoot them, they can shoot that ball, boy.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, man, look here. And she's still the best defensive player. Why y'. All. Bull job.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, Two way give it to you. Like I said, I. I've seen. Look, I grew. I was. I'm old. The NW NBA came in and I know all the great players. To me now, if you want to say college, I would say Stewie is probably more accomplished. When you win four championships in college, four most outstanding players, you a two or three time player of the year and she's a two time mvp and she's won finals and she. Okay, but I'm talking about this right here. Now that she got that three ball in the bag. You know, she got a midi. She got the three ball. Now, you know she got as good a post game and that we have currently in the wnba.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Can she give it to you on the other end? Bring it in if you want to.
Joe Johnson
And she got a mean pump fake too. Her pump fake face. She got that thing mean, boy. That thing mean.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, she'll pump that face up and get on eight.
Joe Johnson
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco
And what she got, her competition in the off season is Bam. She said if I can score 2, 3 points on BAM, y' all ain't got nothing. Y' all chicks ain't got nothing. Y' all got no chance. Zero. All I needed to score, I need to see two or three go in.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Bam. Y' all got Bam taking it easy on Ocho on the court.
Chad Ochocinco
She said, bam, hold on now. Got a real last night. Come on now. Hey, hey, if you don't want to sleep on the couch, back your ass up a little bit. Jump off. Because you know Bam is an outstanding. Bam is an outstanding one on one defender against guys.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
So. But I'm saying she's like, hey, I'm working on him. And I'm, I'm. Hey, I'm working on my post game against him. I. I'm working on my pump thing against him. Well, if I could, if I could, if I can do anything against Bam, right? What you think I'm gonna do against you? But she, hey, she my favorite player. She my favorite player to watch. I, I try to, I always try to watch her. I gotta go to her. I gotta get to a game this year. Man, this story breaks my damn heart. I don't know what the well, I
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I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait.
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Chad Ochocinco
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was thinking Texas Tech quarterback Brandon Sorsby has reportedly been granted an injunction he requested by a judge at the district court of Lubbock. Okay, there you have your answer. Sorensby is not expected to be eligible for the 2020 college football season and will not have to enter 20 the NFL supplemental draft the judge reasoning granted Sourcebee injunction. The courts find that subs Sorensby Sorsby will suffer a probable and imminent and irreparable injury without the injunction because he will be unable to participate as a member of Texas Tech University 2026 football team. And according to Rob Reinert, the majority of the Big 12 teams are boycotting the games against Texas Tech next season due to Brandon Sourceby ruling. I'm told multiple board members have also motioned to eject the Red Raiders from the league. Current only current holdouts are byu. The athletic officials from Nebraska, Georgia sent department wide memos today instructing their coaches and sports deputies not to schedule Texas Tech if games are already scheduled. The school may work to cancel the matchup. All four justices, all four justice on the seventh court of appeals in Texas. Guess where they graduated from? Texas Tech. Hey, hold on. Don't. No, don't nobody want to recuse themselves. Don't nobody say, you know what the look of this. If we were to grant this day.
Unk
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Can you imagine what this is going to look like? So nobody thought anything. Nobody say, you know what? You know what, Ocho Joe? I'm just going to recuse myself. The man admitted that he betted on games in which he was a member of the team when he was on that team. And they said. He said I wagered at least 95.
Joe Johnson
If.
Chad Ochocinco
If the reports are true. Reading what I read. Chat and y'. All, if y' all read it, you read it. He's bet, you know, $90,000 when he was a quarterback, not one time, but over bets, multiple thousands of bets. Damn. He admitted it while he was participating. And y' all say, you know what? He gonna. He gonna suffer irreparable harm. What have you done?
Unk
Hey, so. So teams that. Teams that have Texas Tech on the schedule, they're declining.
Chad Ochocinco
We ain't never with y'.
Joe Johnson
All.
Unk
Would they really do that, you think?
Chad Ochocinco
Yes. I mean, Joe, how. I mean, how do you. How do you. How do you. I mean, you look. Who thinks this is justice? All three, all four of These judges graduated undergrad at Texas Tech.
Unk
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
They're hearing a case involving a current student athlete at Texas Tech. And you don't think that there's an impropriety?
Unk
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
You don't think there's a bias? You see. Oh, chart. Remember I told you.
Unk
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
When you. Everybody's ever been to a courthouse, you look at what. What does lady justice, she got a scale, but she's blindfolded. But they say sometimes when you walk up there peeking to see who is actually walking up steps.
Unk
Hey, listen, I'm with you when you're right, but I also have a question. Is young Bull really that good? Is.
Joe Johnson
Is he good? Is this the kid that. Was he at Cincinnati at first?
Chad Ochocinco
I think he was at Cincinnati. I think he was at Indiana. He's a lot of different schools. I think he's been a couple of places.
Unk
Oh, he keep. Why he keep bouncing around like that, huh?
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey, they find out he betting, he got to go somewhere else to play another bit. You can't keep going.
Unk
Is he good, Chad?
Chad Ochocinco
They probably.
Joe Johnson
Man, he know, you know, he probably can make a nice little. Little piece of change in college, you know, by staying in college.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, for sure. For sure. Absolutely. Absolutely.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, but for them to. For them to play after he admitted to that. Yeah, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, but. But in a situation like that, he throws a pick and they lose the game, a close game. How do you convince the people in the stands. How do you convince the people that's watching, right, that he didn't do that on purpose? See, once. Once I cast doubt, I. I've got to believe what I see him is on the up and up. O. Joe, I gotta believe what I'm seeing is on the up and up. If it's not on the up and up. What do we got here? Tell me what we got, Chad. Right?
Joe Johnson
Damn, man. Hey, listen, look. But why y' all talking for real? I heard that, you know, they caught a lot of student athletes this past season, football and basketball, as far as, like, guys point shaving and things of that sort. Yeah, this is big, man. It's huge. Like these. Yeah, these people ain't been. Hey, it's been some cats out here throwing games, man.
Unk
Hey, yes, they trying. Hey, Joe, I don't understand why. Why they doing it. You already making good money and you're trying to dub. You trying to double up on your money. I mean,
Chad Ochocinco
you know what, Ocho? I don't know what an individual situation is, so I. I don't. I don't want to say but me, I mean. I mean to like, know my teammates and to know the type of work that we put in and to go out there and deliberately drop a pass or deliberately go out there and do something that could. Bro, that ain't gonna rest. That ain't gonna sleep well with me. That ain't gonna.
Joe Johnson
As hard as we worked, as hard as I worked in college, bro, as hard as I know my teammates work, boy, we gonna jump your ass. We fine as you don't. We gonna whoop your ass. I'm serious. Boy, we work too hard for that. Man. Man. Running us to death in there, man. Please.
Chad Ochocinco
What? Wow. Oh. The Lovett Bar Association. Texas Bar Association. He gonna suffer irreparable harm. He should.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Yeah, he should.
Chad Ochocinco
You. You got. They've got. Without consequences. What lessons can be learned, Ojo?
Joe Johnson
None.
Unk
None at all. And you get. Listen, you got to make it.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Unk
Somebody. You got to.
Chad Ochocinco
That's the whole point. In order for someone to learn a lesson, they had to have suffered some level of consequence. He suffered nothing.
Joe Johnson
He gets to play.
Chad Ochocinco
Even after admitting that he bet almost $90,000. If the reports of what I read is true. Yeah, that's what alleged. That's what he said. Allegedly. He said that. And. And. And then. Hold on, Let me make sure I. The court finds that Sorsby would suffer a probable imminent and irreparable injury without the injunction because he will be unable to participate as a member of Texas Tech University 2026 football team. He should suffer imminent and in reparable injury because of what he did.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you, bro.
Unk
I think the team gonna let him back. Especially with all that.
Joe Johnson
Come on, man.
Chad Ochocinco
You think.
Joe Johnson
Hold up. So you think if people. If. If people raise enough hell, he.
Chad Ochocinco
They.
Joe Johnson
They gonna still keep him on the team?
Chad Ochocinco
I do believe it.
Unk
I don't know. Unless he's the next.
Chad Ochocinco
The.
Unk
The next Patrick Mahomes. Josh Allen, man.
Joe Johnson
Been a folk.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh. Oo. Why you think. Why you think? Texas Tech. Who put the money up for the appeal to be heard.
Unk
Oh, hey, Texas Tech got that bag too over there.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, they got the money down there.
Joe Johnson
Come on, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Damn.
Joe Johnson
Don't make it right here because they got the money. It'll make it right.
Unk
Oh, no, it definitely ain't right. Oh, hell. Hey. Absolutely not.
Chad Ochocinco
Sorsby acknowledged he had wagered at least $90,000 on pro and college sports over the past four years, including 40 bets on Indiana football while he was a freshman with the Hoosiers in 2022. Again, chat. He acknowledged that he wagered at least $90,000 on pro and college sports over the past four years, including 40 bets on Indiana football while he was a freshman on the Indiana Hoosiers team in 2022.
Joe Johnson
Come on, man. Hey, hold on.
Unk
That ain't number.
Joe Johnson
Didn't they just take. I know, I know. It's two different sports. And. And Terry Rogers, NBA Money, whole 26 M's.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Arbitrary rule.
Joe Johnson
He's probably gonna be hard as hell for him to get back in the NBA.
Chad Ochocinco
And you mean.
Joe Johnson
Come on, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Joe, Joe, Joe. But you got to help me understand, Joe. You making 28.
Joe Johnson
Okay? I can't. I can't help you understand now.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh. Yo. Okay. Well, help me out, ocho. You making 28 million.
Unk
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco
And you potentially. Allegedly. What's being reported is that you took a hundred thousand dollars.
Unk
Hey. Huh?
Chad Ochocinco
So how you. How you draw? How you drop? How you jump over a stack of money to pick a dime up?
Unk
Can I tell you something?
Joe Johnson
Yes.
Unk
That ain't none. But being in it with the wrong crowd and the wrong people.
Chad Ochocinco
You right, Joe.
Unk
And you ain't got no choice. You.
Chad Ochocinco
You hear me? Are you picking up?
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes.
Joe Johnson
Come on now. Bro, I still. I can't. I can't even fathom that, man. I'm sorry.
Unk
I wouldn't. I wouldn't be with that crowd.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't. I would. Look, Ocho, you know, when we play. Hey, man, who you think gonna win? Who you think, bro?
Joe Johnson
I don't.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't wager. Cause you go pick these games and. And you get pinched, the first name you're gonna say, man, Shannon Sharp told me such and such.
Unk
Yep.
Chad Ochocinco
They don't care nothing about. They don't care nothing about you. They want a big fish. How many times you see somebody have a perch, have a crappy, have a bluegill, have a red breast held up now, how many times you see him have a largemouth bass?
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Or a tuna or strike. They want a trophy. You ain't no trophy, Ocho. Joe. Unc. We the trophies. They want to try our ass out there.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Make an example out of us.
Joe Johnson
But hell, you. You.
Chad Ochocinco
How you admit that you gambled on pro in college. You place 40 best when you were a freshman, and they gonna talk about you a fault suffer. What about the irreparable harm that you've done?
Joe Johnson
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
What about the imminent harm that you've done? Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, man. I don't know how they can continue. I don't know how he can keep playing, bro. Behind this
Chad Ochocinco
Damn.
Unk
He better declare for the draft.
Chad Ochocinco
That's what. But the problem was it was too late, so he had to enter the supplemental draft. Now, I can't remember last player that's gone in the supplemental draft. The supplemental draft used to be a thing. Yeah, Bobby Humphrey went in the supplemental draft. Steve Walsh went to supplemental draft. There have been guys that's gone in the supplemental draft. But I'm sorry, this is. This is crazy. This is outrageous.
Unk
I'm curious to see how this is going to play out.
Chad Ochocinco
It ain't going to play out well. All right, guys, now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q A. Before we get to our super chats, we have three video voicemail from our discord. Let's take a listen to the first one.
Joe Johnson
The first question is for Shannon. Based on how critical you were of Kyrie during the COVID and missing game, saying he didn't need a coach, do you think that you were too critical? Critical on him now, looking that he's had a finals run and how good of a player he's become now and how he's put that behind him. And where would you rank Kyrie Irving now? Would you put him in the top 75? And my last question for all of you is if you could change one rule about basketball, or would it be
Chad Ochocinco
for me? I think two things can be true. You understood in order for you to play. And I think a lot of this had to do with. They never forgave Kyrie for what he said, you know, about the book and that he, you know, I, I guess he had Mitch. I forget, I forget because it's been so long ago. And they held that. My problem was is that they went overboard with it because he had to write all these apologies and he had to do all that when no one else in history, right, has ever been critical of another race and had to do all of that, had to jump through all of those hoops in order to return. So that's when I started siding with Kyrie. No, everybody, everybody had to take the Kobe shot if you wanted. The rules were, oh, I ain't want to take a Kobe shot either. But Fox said, if you want to work, you won't take it. You got a choice. You could take the shot. It worked. Get paid or yeah, not. I chose to take the shot. It's really simple. You didn't want to take the shot. You couldn't play. I think two things can be true. And he didn't want to take the shot. So they say you couldn't play. But I think a larger part was the thing that transpired with the book. I don't know anything about the book. I don't. But I don't think I was overly harsh on Kyrie. I think everybody understood the rules. And the NBA said in order for you to play, you got to take the cold shot. Joe Ocho. What?
Unk
You got to.
Chad Ochocinco
Ocho. If you want to go into a foreign country, you got to take. You got to take this shot. You got to take. Okay. You can't come. I ain't taking no shot. Okay.
Joe Johnson
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
We're not changing the rules for one individual when everybody else has had to do it. So Kyrie made it. Had his stance. Okay, fine. I even. I ain't gonna beat the guy up about his stance. But you have to understand the NBA had the rules and they said you got to take this shot.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Top 75. No, because I think there's some guy. I think Dwight Howard should be in the top 75. I don't care. Nobody say Dwight Howard is the top 75.
Joe Johnson
I agree. I agree with you.
Chad Ochocinco
That's just me personally.
Unk
You don't think Kyrie is.
Chad Ochocinco
No. Over who? Because you know when you put somebody in, you got to take somebody out.
Unk
Yeah, I know. I'm just asking. I'm just asking.
Chad Ochocinco
Dwight Howard was the best player on a team that went to the NBA finals. He's a three time defensive player of the year. And in his prime, he was a top five player in the NBA. He was that. Now you could say, well, he did. All he did was jokes and he was. He didn't work on his shot. And all you can say, all of that may be true, but also what else is true? He's a multiple time defensive player of the year. He's a five time all NBA selection. And as the best player on his team, he took a team to the NBA finals. Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Bad boy.
Chad Ochocinco
And in his prime he was a top five player.
Joe Johnson
Bad boy. Man.
Chad Ochocinco
What rule would you guys change?
Joe Johnson
What rule would I change in sport of basketball? Damn. Maybe if you get a challenge right, you get an extra one.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, I like that. Kind of like to do the NFL, Ocho.
Unk
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
You. You win the challenge, you win the next challenge.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah, yeah. See now it don't make no sense to me. You win a challenge, but you don't get another guy. Well, I may need another one down trick. Cause y' all calling these badass calls out here. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Had you not made that bull job Call. I would have used this one. I could have still, right?
Joe Johnson
I mean, it's got to be some repercussions or something for the rest messing up, man, that you know. Come on, man.
Chad Ochocinco
I agree. Boy, stop. Somebody talking about Kyrie over Moses Malone.
Joe Johnson
They ain't see Moses play, huh?
Chad Ochocinco
Bad Moses. A three time Mose was a three time league mvp. Went back to back at a finals mvp, man, y' all better, man. Mose was a real deal, I promise you guys. Sports were played before the Internet. Sports were played. I know you 20 and 30 something year olds think that I'm. I'm telling you, sports were played and the guys were really good. Yeah, the guys were really good.
Joe Johnson
There's some good one.
Chad Ochocinco
All right, let's take a listen to the next one. Yo, nightcap, fam. What's poppin with y', all, man?
Joe Johnson
Mr. Hell, when I was well, the
Chad Ochocinco
bujitsu slash tongue fu master and Mr. Keeping 100. I got a question for you, Joe, because based on these last few shoes, though, something's just not adding up. You ain't been keeping it a hunt for real. Like I've been seeing, you know, all these people come asking, Oto go about eating groceries and all this and that, bro. And you talking about breathing techniques and, and all kind of stuff that you gotta have, like, you know, just to. To. To like you, you know, the chat know what I'm talking about, man? The chat know what I'm talking about? I can't even, like, I can't. We need answers, Joe. We need answers.
Joe Johnson
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on, hold on. I ain't trying to put words in his mouth or none of that, but is that man, was he trying to throw me in first place?
Unk
Yeah, I told you, Joe, like, yeah, they know you've been. I've been trying to tell you the whole time. I'm not sure if the chat was picking up what I was putting down,
Joe Johnson
but finally somebody said, hey, chat, Chad. Y' all know better than that. Chat y' all see what's going on. Yeah, y' all know. Hey, hey, Chad, come on now. Come on, man.
Chad Ochocinco
He talking about breathing techniques. You see, I'm saying, everybody, the chat already know. I be out of breath. I'm all out.
Joe Johnson
Listen, listen, listen. He Jack Rabbit. As soon as he get in there, I'm all out.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm like the K. I run as hard. I run as fast as I can, as hard as.
Joe Johnson
See, I'm with the monks. I'm taking my time, baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'M slow rolling that thing. Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
I've been in C for the days. Back in the day, Joe, you didn't have a whole lot of time. Now, you had to sneak a peak when you could. You know what I'm saying? Hey, somebody coming home.
Joe Johnson
I ain't gonna lie to you. Energy stinks tonight. I ain't gonna lie. I just gotta keep money tonight. Your energy, yo, it been real low.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, you've been down.
Unk
Wait, I'm just saying, y' all talk about, you know, what y' all do, you know, in the bedroom and behind closed doors.
Chad Ochocinco
Ain't nobody said nobody. I just said, you know, I had to pick up the pace because you, you know, hey, somebody might come home abruptly, pull up on you, you know,
Unk
okay, I'm hitting my next loss, you know, my next loss. And y' all talk about.
Chad Ochocinco
I know you've been David ever since.
Joe Johnson
Come on, man. Bad juju and all. Come on, man. Hey, get the man right, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, y', all, y'.
Unk
All. Matter of fact, Joe, number one, you number two, and I'm. I'm in the last spot.
Chad Ochocinco
Everybody. Everybody know. Everybody know. Uncle.
Joe Johnson
Oh, oh.
Chad Ochocinco
Everybody know.
Joe Johnson
We gotta talk about. I bet if you throw a poll up in the damn chat, I bet they let y' all know who won two or three.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, I mean, y' all gotta think about it, man. I was. Man, I was. Y' all was. Y' all was five, six years old. I was up out of high school, so. Man, y' all know. They know I ain't got no kind of motion.
Joe Johnson
They know they didn't hurt you in motion.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, I don't want you like I used. Like I used to have it.
Joe Johnson
They heard you in motion. What you mean?
Chad Ochocinco
I thought we. I thought we
Joe Johnson
keeping it real.
Chad Ochocinco
Like my GR used to say, stirring up old issues.
Joe Johnson
I thought we were keeping it real.
Chad Ochocinco
No. Sometime it's 40% real. Hey.
Joe Johnson
Hey. What? Dude called Ocho. He said booty something. What? He called Ocho. He got him something. Yeah, he told you something.
Chad Ochocinco
Bujitsu. He just said tongue, fool Master.
Unk
Yeah, he said no.
Joe Johnson
Tom Fu master in buchi.
Chad Ochocinco
I just.
Unk
Hey, I just be playing.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, right.
Chad Ochocinco
The third one. Sup ankh a Joe and one show. My birthday is tomorrow and I'm happy to see me here. But the question is, who is the worst tanking in NFL playoff drop whether NFL or NBA? Because the Wizards are the worst. Regular history because on plus nicotine pouches
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Chad Ochocinco
I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything.
Joe Johnson
It's the rage bait.
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Chad Ochocinco
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Chad Ochocinco
Whether we build themselves or Commands will build themselves. I want to end there. Show and unk faith. Believe me. Peace.
Joe Johnson
He talking about the Wizards and Commanders.
Unk
Who is the worst at tanking? Yeah, probably the wizard, because the Commanders are good now.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, hold up, though.
Chad Ochocinco
And they weren't trying to.
Joe Johnson
Hey, listen, hold on. I expect the Wizards to be fighting this year. If they gonna keep Trey Young and AD and draft AJ. AJ DeBonsa, I expect the Wizards to be in. In the playoffs this year, next season. I mean, they tanking over with.
Chad Ochocinco
They didn't carry that.
Joe Johnson
It's over.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Be no reward no more.
Chad Ochocinco
I know we're all Knick fans with the brooms. Laugh my ass off. This ain't no walk in the park. Spurred that disrespect in the house with the President and the mayor. Stop playing Spurs. Hello, Spur.
Joe Johnson
Y' all can put them damn brooms up. Ooh, you Fat Joe, Spike Lee.
Unk
I never. Hey, I. I never mentioned.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, you did.
Unk
Yeah, you did.
Joe Johnson
You mentioned it, bro.
Unk
I said mixing 6. Grab you a twitch.
Joe Johnson
Listen, you Fat Joe, Spike Lee, all y'. All. Yeah, you put them brooms up, partner. Yeah,
Chad Ochocinco
Reggie say, oh, is that a swing set behind you? Hell, no. Them Shakes Jaylen Brunson, AKA Little sga, bro, was on the ground damn near as many times as the ball.
Joe Johnson
They making him work, boy.
Chad Ochocinco
Josh. Josh. Mlade said, looks like the ref spent this summer with the month, too. They let him play tonight. You got to get him play tonight.
Unk
It was holding that whistle.
Chad Ochocinco
Shout out to brothers Nelson, Marco, Gumbo, Field Town, CJ and Taan for watching the game, seeing history. Jiu Jitsu. Oo. I'll admit, you look nice shadow boxing with them hands, you know? Think you look pretty. A pretty shadow boxer, but you get folded in them clothes, though. I mean, you be pinging and popping,
Joe Johnson
and it did look good on.
Chad Ochocinco
On camera. Say, none of that gonna work on him now.
Unk
It looked better with a. With a body in front of me, I'm sure.
Joe Johnson
All right. I'm gonna be coming straight through that little week that look.
Unk
Whatever, whatever, Whatever you throw, I'm gonna pair.
Joe Johnson
Okay. All right. You better go get you some contacts.
Unk
Hey, Joe. I'm right down the street. Yeah, right.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Huh?
Unk
Listen, my flight ain't to 7am I could come down there real quick, send
Joe Johnson
me a location, we can link up. It don't matter. However you want to do it.
Unk
I'm right, I'm right here on P Street.
Joe Johnson
Just go outside, stand on the corner, send me your location, watch me pull up.
Unk
All right, I'm texting to you.
Chad Ochocinco
Council clap. Castle carried the game, guys, come on. Castle was amazing. So. So we ain't gonna talk about what WIMBY did, huh? So maybe with some stir fry.
Joe Johnson
There was a good two head monster tonight. I thought, I thought, I thought there was spurs where Castle was, was carrying them. Then I thought it was a spurt where Wendy had a good look, you know, good little spurt going. I thought they all played a major role and obviously them winning tonight.
Chad Ochocinco
But that Castle 3.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah, huge.
Chad Ochocinco
With about a minute when we kicked
Joe Johnson
it to him and he shot that D3.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah, yep, that Castle 3 and
Unk
that Fox midi towards the end of the game.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, huge. Women missed a. A point back. That would have put him up, man. I said, come on.
Joe Johnson
Just see me over there.
Chad Ochocinco
Nick fans, go ahead.
Joe Johnson
You should have seen me over here when he missed that damn layup.
Chad Ochocinco
Knicks fans might storm the capitol after this game, ojo and still kick ISO. Long time fan. Fellas, I want to know your top five New York celebrity role versus LA wrote celebrity role. Damn.
Unk
Oh, that, that's.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna throw yours out there. Yeah.
Unk
Jack Nicholas.
Chad Ochocinco
Jack Nicholson.
Unk
Oh, Nicholson. My bad.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, Jack Nicholson.
Unk
The man that always wear the hat and them boots.
Joe Johnson
Who, who you gonna match him with? Up with New York. With New York, with the gray hair. Jerry Seinfeld.
Unk
Ben Stiller, Spike Lee.
Joe Johnson
Yeah,
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, was. Well, your Spike is number one in New York. Spike. Ben Stiller, Tracy Morgan.
Unk
Yeah, Chappelle. I mean, not Chappelle. Chris. Is it Chris Rock?
Chad Ochocinco
Chris Rock. Do you say Jerry Seinfeld?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I said Jerry Seinfeld.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Hey, he's coming a lot out Brooklyn games, by the way.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah, yeah, I can believe that. Denzel, jack nicholson, diane cannon, Eddie murphy.
Joe Johnson
Yeah,
Chad Ochocinco
I guess I go. Jimmy Iovine. I mean a lot of the celebs, they don't go. They don't passed on Lakers. Your favorite player, Harrison Barnes with a dmp. Coach's decision. You can rest each. You know what you got.
Joe Johnson
You gotta chill, you gotta chill, you gotta chill. They ain't give no clock tonight.
Unk
Nope.
Chad Ochocinco
Ms. Johnson said, you know what? Every time you come in the game, they go on the run. And I'm gonna Keep you over here with me, Ocho. Don't get mad now that your next lost crying.
Unk
Oh, hey, I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm just saying, you know, simmer down a little bit.
Chad Ochocinco
The spurs got to work. Work on closing each half strong. Blowing these leads can be costly for two.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, it has been costly. Absolutely right.
Chad Ochocinco
Great physical game by the spurs tonight. Control the pace without forcing things. Oo. Your nick starting to look gassed. They're definitely making Brunson work for everything.
Joe Johnson
And. And I just think with. With all the buzz in the city, whether the players tell you or not, that should be overwhelming, bro. I can. I bet it's overwhelming. You know what I mean? It's just so much that you have to deal with not only. Not only physically, but mentally being. Staying locked in. If like. Like Josh Hart said, I seen this interview, he said, hell, you can't even go nowhere without them praising you. And if you. If you hear too much of it, you know you can. You have a tendency to relax. Yeah,
Chad Ochocinco
Ocho, we got your back. Knicks and six,
Joe Johnson
Let's go.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, man, you need to step your glass game up. Ocho and I saw out here competing on the Slide. I love the show. Dedicated faith, man. I'm just trying to see. That's all I'm trying to do, bro. Because I can't see nothing without these glasses.
Unk
That's a good one.
Chad Ochocinco
Anybody on the panel met Stacy King before, said that he had a fall at his home. Sad. Yeah. Prayers out. Thoughts and prayers. Stacy King's family, friends and loved ones. He had by a sudden his southern passing being reported as an accident in his home. No, I've never met Stacy King. I have not. I. I remember him at the University of Oklahoma.
Joe Johnson
Yeah,
Chad Ochocinco
I think. Yeah, they ended up. I think he was on that team that ended up losing. I think they ended up losing to Kansas because Kansas ended up winning it in 88. Danny in the Miracle.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hold on. He used to work for the Bulls in it. Wasn't he working for the Bulls?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Johnson
I think I met him before. I just can't really pinpoint when. But I think I have met him
Chad Ochocinco
before, though, when they put Cornett in Cats. Seeing nothing.
Joe Johnson
Anybody went straight to the basket, didn't it?
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, he got us a couple of rebounds tonight, Joe. I was like, okay, okay, I'll leave you.
Joe Johnson
So I. Cornet. Yeah, he down there fighting for his life. Oh, he trying to. Hey, he trying to give him a few minutes in there. It's hard to Take Wimby off the damn flow, man.
Unk
Yeah, yeah,
Chad Ochocinco
but that's what normally happens, Joe. That's why you think about it. Kobe and Jordan, LeBron, you go back and looking early in their career, them Jokers playing 42, 43, 44 minutes in a playoff game.
Joe Johnson
Look this the time.
Chad Ochocinco
If you go back and look, look how many minutes Jordan and Kobe and LeBron was playing early in their career. In the regular season, them jokers playing 40, 42 minutes.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
A night. I don't know when this, this 32, 35 minutes came into effect, but then go look at this stats and see how many minutes they were playing every minute. Oh, Joe, me and my wife are going to Miami in July. Any restaurants you make a man and will you meet us there?
Unk
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I meet you. I, I definitely meet you, man. You know, when the time come, you know, come on back on the show and let me know. I mean, July, if it's around World cup time, I'm gonna be, gonna be
Chad Ochocinco
difficult because you ain't gonna be home.
Unk
Yeah, I'm doing a lot of traveling, my traveling, I'm more, I didn't already started so. But if I'm there, man, definitely. As far as restaurants to recommend, you know, you're with the wife, you know, you, you know, you use your, your nice five star restaurants. Prime 112 STK Carbone, poppy steak. I mean, you'll like.
Joe Johnson
Hey, I ain't, I ain't never been to Carbon. It's like that.
Unk
I mean, it's cool. I, I go once a year. I go once a year, you know, me and my baby, you know, I don't, I don't frequent those type of places often, you know, but when people come in town, I do suggest, you know, they go to somebody.
Chad Ochocinco
I came in town, you ain't take me to poppy steak.
Unk
I mean, I came to Atlanta. You ain't want to hang with me for breakfast?
Chad Ochocinco
Man, I told you I had to be somewhere. Ojo you was seeing.
Unk
Hey, hey, that could have waited, that could have waited on the fact that you don't get to see me often outside of, outside of nightcap me. And I got a chance to see my co host, he's in my city, you know what, I'mma change what I got to do in Denver just to show him, you know, some love and hang out, you know, and politic a little bit and talk about the show and you know, talk about how far we've come. It's been three years and we couldn't imagine the Success we've had without the. You know, I mean. But that's just me. That's just me.
Chad Ochocinco
Your stomach don't hurt. Cause you full of ish. Next. Broomstick, nicks, bricks, drumsticks, spurs and six.
Joe Johnson
There you go.
Chad Ochocinco
I feel we got a crazy. Do y' all have any funny stories about y' all uncles? My uncle wasn't crazy like that, though.
Joe Johnson
Mine was. Mine are. My mama was only. Only girl. I got four uncles and. And they all. They. They all different in many ways. Well, hey, so I'd have seen it all. I'd have seen it all. Trust and believe, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Spur have answered the call they needed to wake up. Game one and two, go Spurs. Go oo. Team didn't even make the playoffs. He should be saying basket or ball. I know he get mad at Joe and I, but he been gloating. He. He gloated, Joe, you remember he gloated the whole OKC Spurs.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
I told y'. All, See, y' all don't know ball like O. I swear, I saw Wimby grab Brunson by the neck, shove him, and somehow. No call with Jon Jones elbow too lowkey. He's draymond level. What were the most.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey. Hey. Get your ass off of me. I'm sick of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. All this. Look, all this. All this physicality outbringing is just flopping and flailing, man. You trying to set a pick on me.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm gonna meet it.
Joe Johnson
Get your ass out of there.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. No, you said they ain't coming back to San Antonio Super Cap. I didn't think so. I did not think. Especially because remember how demoralizing that was for the Cavaliers when they had that big old leading game one Joe, and they really never recovered? And I thought. But the thing is, I underestimated the mentality of this team.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, they're a far better team, obviously, than the Cavs. I just think, you know, they have so many different guys who can beat you. Obviously, Wemby and Castle playing great tonight, but you never know. Next game, hell, Champion and Versell could Both go for 20 and be at an efficient. I just think, you know, they don't just depend on one guy. Obviously, Wimby is a catalyst. But, bro, when you got all these young thoroughbreds, the way they playing. Look at Harper, man. Hell, like I said, he couldn't hit nothing. But, boy, he wasn't scared. I'm talking about he was steady putting him up. But he go, he. He may win you the game next game. 4 so
Chad Ochocinco
unless you're a Nick fan, I don't know how you can hate on a 22 year old with the mindset he has. He wants it.
Joe Johnson
You can't. You gotta respect, bro. Go ahead,
Unk
everybody.
Chad Ochocinco
What'd you say, Ocho?
Unk
Everybody want it.
Joe Johnson
Oh, here he go. See?
Chad Ochocinco
Do you see what I'm talking about?
Unk
Everybody that's playing in this final wanted because they don't conduct themselves the way Wimby does. And him wanting.
Joe Johnson
Get your heart out of. I thought you gonna keep it 100, man. You ain't keeping it 100 acting like that, man. You juju off and everything.
Unk
Everybody playing wants it. I mean, I mean, what are we talking about?
Chad Ochocinco
I'm gonna end the chat if you keep yelling.
Unk
I'm just saying.
Chad Ochocinco
What's good. Nightcap crew. Hey, I just wanted to let y' all know, I saw the video of Xavier Hutchinson and he keep. And it was a keep or cut. Best wide receivers of 2000. He cut to Megatron. He cut to Megatron. And Randy Moss, well, those are the preeminent guys. I mean, obviously you sprinkle in Marvin Harrison. I mean, look, the. The 2000 was really good because you got Megatron, you got to. You got Randy, you got Fitz and you got Marvin, you got Steve Smith in that era. You got Anquan Bowden in that era. You got Reggie Wayne in that era. Yeah, I mean, you got a bunch of guys that got a thousand catches in that era. Yeah, yeah. Randy don't have a thousand, but he got. I think Randy has the most fifth. Gerald has the most yards, but I think Randy got a bunch. Ocho use have to stay away from Houston. My question is, do you guys not have self control? If not, I feel sorry for your future wives. I know you guys are better than that. Love the big three, that's all.
Unk
Who said that?
Chad Ochocinco
Huh?
Unk
Who said.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what somebody said exactly what I was thinking? I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Y' all ain't got no self control. We go down to Houston. You.
Unk
I ain't got no problem. Everybody in Houston ain't got self control. I mean, I mean, shoot, since the beginning of time, everybody been having his having issues. So I'm. I ain't got no problem. How do you just stay out there?
Joe Johnson
Okay.
Chad Ochocinco
All right. Yeah. Yeah. We stand out. Good, Joe. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We got ourselves. I believe we have ourselves a series as the spurs take game three on the road, 115 to 111. Wimby and Castle the youngest two first two players 22 years or younger to score at least 20 points or more in a finals game. Thank you guys for joining us. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle. That's my partner and co host. That's the Route Runner Extraordinary. The Bingles Ring of Fame honoree, a former Pro Bowler and an All Pro. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson. And the third member, a seven time NBA All Star, the smooth shooting guard, the clutch bucket getter that is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. We would like to thank each and every one of you for your support tonight and many many nights before tonight and many many more nights to come. It's all because of you. The success that Nightcap has been able to enjoy for almost three years is solely in your hands. Again, thank you for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shea by Laportier head over to laportiercognac.com if you cannot find it in a city near you. It is a premium BSOP Cognac, the best tasting, smoothest VSOP kayak on the market. Try it compared against other cognacs and you'll see we have the best cognac on the market. Thank you guys for joining us again at the Spurs. Take down the Knicks 115 to 11121 series still in Knicks favor. Game 4 is in New York on Wednesday night. See if they can overcome it. I'm up. He's Ocho. He's ISO. See you tomorrow Ocho.
Joe Johnson
Send me that low.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
All right.
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